Speaker 1: Gonna talk about Leon Black, mister scusbag himself. Now, if
you go back and you look at the catalog here,
I'm the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I have been very vocal
about Leon Black for a very long time. I do
not like the man. I don't like the way he
conducts business, and I certainly don't like the way he
treats people. Now you sprinkle in the Jeffrey Epstein stuff
on top of that, and this other heinous ass accusation
we're gonna talk about today. Oh yeah, and he's in
my Hall of Fame of scumbags. Even before this Jeffrey
Epstein situation, I was not too fond of Apollo Global
and Leon Black. I'm not a big fan of vultures.
I'm not a big fan of these disruptors who come
in and buy up companies and liquidate them. I get it,
it's good for your bottom line, good for your investors,
and I'm not knocking the process as being illegal or
anything like that. But for me personally, I find the
way they do business reprehensible. Not a fan, never will be,
and I've seen it firsthand. They come into places like
Las Vegas and they don't know their ass from their elbow.
Just take a look at their little endeavor over at
Caesar's absolute failure. So I didn't need more ammunition for
me to come onto the podcast today and go absolutely
ham on Leon Black's bitch ass. But we're gonna do it.
Another one of these clowns who thinks that they can
run around with impunity, thinks he can do whatever the
hell he wants and then spin and craft whatever kind
of shitty narrative he thinks is gonna get play with
the legacy media. Well, mister Leon Black and your friends
in the legacy media, you can all get eft because
we're about the putch you on blast. Today's article is
from the Daily Mail headline Wall Street billionaire and former
Jeffrey Epstein associate Leon Black is accused of being a
violent and sadistic sexual predator by a former model who
claims he raped her before coercing her into signing an
NDA boy. Sounds like a pleasant time for her, Huh,
sounds like a great time for this lady. Rich and
powerful Apollo Global Leon Black basically controlling this lady's life,
according to her allegations. Sadistic bastard, sick man? Is it?
Any wonder he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. If
y'all wondered why I called him a fellow traveler, well
look no further. And I think I've been pretty spot
on for the past Oh I don't know eighteen or
nineteen months when I've pointed my finger at one of
these people. You see, Because unlike a lot of other folks,
I don't just sit around here and willy nilly pull
people into this story. There gotta be some facts to
go on, right, something I can sink my teeth in.
And Lehan Black, my friends, is a whole ass stake
to sink your teeth into. This dude has proven over
and over again that he is a scumbag. There is
zero chance, in my opinion, that the one hundred and
fifty eight million was for advice, and I wouldn't be
surprised if more dirt more stories like this come leaking out.
This article was authored by Laura Collins, chief investigative reporter
for dely mail dot com. The Wall Street billionaire who
stood by Jeffrey Epstein long after others deserted him is
being accused of being a violent, sadistic sexual predator who
raped and harassed a former model, then coerced her into
signing an NDA. Dailymail dot Com can reveal these are
the central allegations of a defamation lawsuit brought by former
model Gazelle Ganieva against Leon Black, once one of the
city's most powerful executives as the former CEO of Apollo
Global Management. So we talked about this when the original
accusations came out, and we weren't surprised then and we're
not surprised now. All Right, people like this, this is
how they roll. If you're a scumbag like Leon Black
or Jeffrey Epstein, this is what you do. It's clinical, right.
I'm certainly not a psychologist and I'm not here to
diagnose anybody's mental problems, right, but it's quite obvious that
people like this, people who abuse, people who are involved
in tra afficking, people who have proclivities for younger girls
or boys. You don't get fixed from that. That doesn't
go away. What do you think That's a cold? You
wake up one day, you take some cold. These have
a little bit of soup and you're better. No, these
people are sick. Something's wrong with their brain. And I
don't think Leon Black's any different now. He might not
be running around, you know, abusing children the way Epstein was,
but he's sick in his own way, that's for damn sure.
And these allegations, well they just, like I said, that
just is a topper for me. I thought Leon Black
was a sick dude for a very long time for
reasons other than Jeffrey Epstein. So none of this comes
as a shock to me. When I was working for Canner,
I heard stories about all these cats all the time,
and believe me, none of the stories I heard were
the kind where you're like, Wow, this dude seems like
a g I want to live like him. Black sixty
nine resigned his position as head of the massive investment
firm on March twenty second, just days after Kanieva went
public with her claims that Black had abused her for years.
But remember, it had nothing to do with any of this.
It was about his health and about his wife's health.
He cares so much about his wife's health, folks, that
he's out here basically torturing this this lady, according to
her allegations, abusing her, sexually assaulting her. But he's so
worried about his wife does that not seem like a
bunch of bs to the rest of you like it
does to me, Because I got news for you. I've
had a six soul man. I've had someone who is
sick that I care more about than the whole world,
and the last thing I'd be doing is out creeping
on him. So whenever these people come up with those
sorts of excuses, those cannedass reasons why they're leading these positions,
it's inevitable that something like this comes out right on
the heels of it. These people do not seed power.
You have to steal power from them, snatch it from
their grasp. That is the only way. Black has denied
that his resignation had anything to do with the series
of tweets posted by Ganieva thirty eight, in which she
claimed that the abuse that Black's hands started in two
thousand and eight when she met him to discuss work,
and continued until twenty fifteen when he forced her to
sign an NDA And right around that time, who else
was super active around that time abusing girls, molesting girls,
and what leon Black don't see what Jeffrey's up to,
doesn't say to himself, Hell, I got more power in
money than Epstein. I could pull this off too. Now,
obviously that's me spitballing. I don't know what his psyche
was at the time, but it certainly seems like a
logical path to go down. When you work with people, right,
say you have a job doing I don't know, you're
a plumber, right, Chances are a lot of your associates,
your friends, they're gonna be plumbers as well, people in
the industry. And the same goes for these billionaires. Scum
recognizes scum, and it all floats to the top. She tweeted.
When I refused as sexual advances, I was bullied, manipulated, threatened,
and coerced under duress. I was forced to sign an
NDA in twenty and fifteen. And this is the story
of all of these rich, powerful people. They get these
girls caught up and then after they abuse them, after
they absolutely destroy their dreams and all of their hopes.
Oh well, now you gotta sign an NDA. So all
of that abuse has to be shelved, all of that
has to go under the table, and you can never
talk about it. How in the world is it that
even legal? There should be no such thing as an
NDA when it comes to sexual abuse. Now when it
comes to corporate secrecy or a noncompete clause, I get that.
That's business. That's how that shit works. I get it.
We're talking about humans here, a human life. You mean
to tell me a piece of paper that she signs
because some rich scumbag coerces her and threatens her and
manipulates her into it. It means she should never be
able to tell anybody what happened her or him, for
that instance, say it's a guy, and then the shoes
on the other foot. These people in these positions of power,
they're in for a reality check. And that shit is
coming real soon, folks. That trend is certainly screeching out
of the station and rum and down the tracks. She claimed.
I am breaking my silence now because I do not
want this type of predatory behavior to continue happening to
other women. And that has been an ongoing theme for
a lot of the survivors of Epstein as well. Right,
They have come forward because they don't want to see
this happen to other women. So because the justice system
doesn't want to help, because the people who are in
power don't want to help these girls, in a move
that just I mean shed's bravery, come forward and bring
their story directly to the people. You And that's the
way things change. Right, What do you think Congress really cares?
Congress only cares when they're constituents are fired up. Congress
only cares when people who are voting for them start
calling them, start writing letters and all of that. And
I know it seems like an uphill battle, right, I
definitely seems like an uphill battle to try and get
anyone to pay attention, to get anyone to care. But
look at all the progress that has been made so far.
You all know how I feel already at this point, right,
it's time to punch the ball over the goal line.
We've been on a good drive here. This is a
good drive, right, were in enemy territory. But do you
want to settle for a field goal or do you
want to put the ball in the end zone and
seal this one? Personally, I'd like to ice it. And
that means convictions, jail sentences for all of these scumbags involved. Black,
who has described his decision to give Epstein a second
chance as a terrible mistake, hit back by describing the
relationship as a consensual affair into which he entered foolishly. Now,
remember this is a man who is supposedly leaving his
position of high power, high money because he cares so
much about his wife and her health. But yet all
boys out here moving like a creep in the streets
and not even in a consensual relationship. You would think,
at the very least, if you add all of this money,
all of this power, you could find a girl who
would be down to, you know, be in a relationship
with you. Not that difficult. I'm sure you could go.
If you had that kind of money and you were
so inclined, you could go on a site like OnlyFans
and pay one of them girls to go and hang
out with you. But it's not about that. It's not
just about the carnal pleasure. It's about power and exerting
that power other over other human beings. And that's what
gets these scumbags off. And me, well, everybody who knows
me knows I despise bullies, and I love bastards and
broken things. And if there's ever been a bully running around,
it's Leon Black's bitch ass. Never mind this situation we're
talking about, right here and right now, how much misery
has he an Apollo Global caused by swooping up these
companies and then dissolving them for no other reason than
to enrich himself. In an article published by Bloomberg on
April eighth, Black said, any allegation or any other inappropriate
behavior towards her is completely fabricated. Yeah, of course it is.
And he thinks he can get away with saying that,
right because he has high profile lawyers. And when you
got that kind of money, you can fight a defamation
suit pretty much forever. And it's not like the court
system's trying to make things move in a quick manner. Right,
So again, everything is set up for these people to
continue the charade. Everything's set up for the show that
we call life to continue right before our eyes. But meanwhile,
you're not allowed to be a participant, not in their life.
He went on to claim, the truth is that I
have been extorted by miss Kanieva for years, and I
made substantial monetary payments to her based on her threats
to go public concerning our relationship in an attempt to
spare my family from public embarrassment. Well, here's an idea,
mister Leon Black, and a bit of advice that won't
cost you one hundred and fifty eight million dollars. If
you don't cheat on your wife, you don't have to
worry about any of it. Okay, But you're a scumbag
trying to do damage control, and you're so used to
the spin cycle working in your favor that you didn't
think that this would pick up steam. Well, you were wrong.
Your days of moving unabated, your days of acting like
you're above everybody else, and there's no rules that you
have to play by them days are over. People are
waking up, and you and your rich buddies who locked
us away for seventeen months, y'all are about to reap
what you saw. The lawsuit filed on Ghanieva's behalf by
a Whigner Law describes this statement as malicious and right
from the playbook of scores of wealthy and powerful men
facing similar accusations one hundred percent. And I know that's
pretty much a canned statement from the law firm too,
but it's a fact. Every single time one of these
powerful dudes is met with these allegations, it's the same story,
Oh it was consensual, Oh, I'm not a scumbag, And
it's always a woman who is smoking hot right twenty six,
twenty seven, absolutely drop dead gorgeous running around with a
guy like Leon Black. Oh yeah, it's because you're such
a good looking guy. Lean Black, a modern day casanova.
Come on, man, give me a break. Comparing Black the
Harvey Weinstein, Bill O'Reilly, Paul Haggis, and Alan Dershowitz and
Russell Simmons, all of whom accused their own would be
accusers of attempted shakedowns, the suit dismisses his claims as
false and defamatory. Again, that is the go to move
for these rich and powerful people who are accused of this. Now,
let's be very clear, just a simple allegation doesn't move
the needle from me. I've been very clear from the
very beginning that I'm ana believe the evidence guy. Not
a believe all women guy, not a believe all men guy.
I believe the evidence. So when you get cases like
this and you have multiple, multiple, multiple in some cases
dozens of women coming out, well it's kind of hard
to ignore that. Right, that's not some he said, she
said shit, And it just goes to Leon Black's character,
and you know, I don't Again, I don't have evidence
for this, But I've one hundred percent believe that we
will see more allegations of Leon Black abusing people moving forward,
and it states for too long, wealthy men like Black
have enjoyed an unequal access to justice unavailable to the
average citizen. The truth will reveal a violent, sadistic side
to Black that he has shielded from public view for decades. Yeah, this, look,
this is everything that we've been saying. Missus Ganieva coming
out and putting pen to paper and her name behind
it lends a lot of credence to the rumors. And
a guy like Leon Black has been able to move
with impunity for all of these years decades, folks, many
different presidencies, by the way, not just one, not just two,
plenty of blame to go around. But this dude has
been moving around like this and making shady ass financial deals.
We haven't even gotten to that. Nobody's even talking about that. Really,
that one hundred and fifty eight million, if it went
to an offshore account, was it taxed? What's the deal?
Where's the story on that? Where are the financial forensic
accountants going hamm Sure seems like the government's only willing
to go so far, doesn't it. The suit alleges that
Black threatened Ganieva that he would put her in prison
and told her that to speak out would be suicide.
This sounds about right, sounds like something this guy would say,
or someone in his position would say. According to the suit,
like a master chess player, Black was many moves ahead
of missus Ganieva from the moment he met her. Well, yeah,
I mean talk about a mismatch. We're talking about United
States versus Estonia in a war. Really, this is a
girl coming over from another country, coming to America, chasing
her dreams up against a man who is worth billions
of dollars with a playbook the size of Bill Belichick's
and a pocketbook bigger than Scrooge McDuck's. According to the suit,
like a master chess player, Black was many moves ahead
of miss Ganieva from the moment he met her. Black
allegedly picked her out of a crowd in March two
thousand and eight while attending an International Women's Day event
in New York City. And this is another thing these
people like to do right, act brazen as hell. For instance,
Gielen Maxwell going to a child sex trafficking conference. This
guy going to a woman's day march and picking out
a victim that he's gonna eventually be sadistic towards an
abuse and assault. It's people. They aren't all there upstairs, folks.
Some's going on. The single mother, then in her twenties,
had recently moved from Russia to the United States. According
to her case, it was easy work for Black to
convince miss Ganieva to dine with him at La Greniol,
where he planned to tell her exactly how he could
help her with her future. Black allegedly gavely. Miss Ganieva
believed that Black was not interested in her sexually, simply
because she told him that their relationship would not be sexual. Black, however,
is a ruthless planner and a man that gets what
he wants, and all of that is factual. Black is
that kind of man, ruthless, doesn't take no for an answer,
and squishes people under his boot heel on a regular basis.
And we're talking about other sharks, other rich alphas. But
missus Ganieva, she had a real chance here, right, She
had a chance to fight back. She had a real
chance to beat back the advances of Leon Black. Once
he got her alone and out of view of his employees,
Black allegedly forced sadistic sexual acts on her without her
consent and despite her saying no. So he raped her.
Let's just call it what it is. According to her allegations,
he violently raped her like a sex offender. That's the
kind of shit Richard Ramirez did, right, So why should
Leon Black be treated any different? This man needs to
be brought in questioned under oath and if the evidence
is there, oh, boy needs to be indicted. The first
time this allegedly happened was two thousand and eight, when
Black took Miss Ganieva to a studio apartment with a
mattress on the floor and no other furniture. What Leon
Black's taking people to trap houses? Now, that's sure what
it sounds like. I mean, this is the kind of
shit you see in like the hood. Right, Oh, we're
going down to the East Side motel, homie, come on,
hop in, mister billionaire boy over here takes her to
a traphouse, a flophouse with just a bed on the floor.
I'm surprised it wasn't an air mattress. Humiliated and in shock,
the dude claims Miss Ganiheva never uttered a word about
what had been done to her. Over the next several years,
Miss Ganieva, it claims, and dured a cycle of intimidation,
abuse and humiliation by Black, and that on numerous occasions,
included forced sexual conduct against her. Will now let that
settle in for a minute. Okay again, Jeffrey Epstein and
all of his buddies right at the very best, fellow travelers,
and that's all panning out as we move forward. Glenn
Dubin sicko, this guy sicko, Alan Dershowitz sicko. Everybody that
Epstein was paling around with had their own proclivities. Thus
why I named them all early on fellow travelers. At
the very least, many of these alleged occations were, according
to the suit, perpetrated by Black in order for him
to indulge in sadistic sexual acts that were physically painful
to Miss Ganieva and to which she never consented. Ganieva
claims that among Black's tactics was the promise to help
her with her child's education and to help her with
applications to Harvard Business School because of his strong relationships there.
And we know that he played middleman for Jeffrey Epstein
with some donations there as well, so he has big
time ties to Harvard, another scumbag institute by the way,
where I would never send my children, And all of
this stuff that she is coming out and saying definitely
rings true and plays right along to the tune that
we know this guy is whistling. Black stands accused of
constantly belittling Ganieva, forcing her to walk behind him in public.
He allegedly criticized her clothing and makeup, and she claims
that he berated her for refusing to agree to threesomes
with other women. Does does any of that sound like
it's out of character? Powerful guy like this used to
everybody doing what he wants. Now you're gonna walk behind me,
You're not on the same level of as You're just
some a piece of the game board here. You notice
Kanieva ain't messing around with no Italian American girl. I mean,
Leon Black ain't trying that with no Italian American girls. Right,
Oh yeah, go ahead, walk behind me, mess around and
end up with a concussion. All kidding aside, Leon Black
is just a sick dude, right, And this whole entire crew,
this whole Epstein crew, the core crew of his There
needs to be a reckoning, and it would be really
nice if the legacy media would jump on board and
do their job, just this one time and dig deep
into Jeffrey Epstein's Oceans eight accomplices, because that's basically what
it's like, right, the good old boys sitting around trading
stories about how they sadistically abused women, Like that's cool,
breaking news. It's not also breaking news. That's the kind
of shit that has you visiting your dentist with all
of your teeth in a bag. Standing six feet five
inches tall and weighing in at three hundred pounds, Ganieva
alleges that Black also physically intimidated her by clenching his fists,
pounding on furniture, and repetitive cracking of his knuckles. So
this is a big ass oaf of a man. Disgusting,
I'm sure slovenly imagine this sick mountain of a human
on top of you, naked, and he's out here threatening
this small little lady. I'm guessing make you feel tough now,
Leon Black, mister, I love my wife. In twenty eleven.
In twenty thirteen, Black offered Danieva two loans of four
hundred and eighty thousand dollars, to be paid in installments
of sixty thousand dollars a month and ultimately repaid in
full with an interest rate of five percent. Oh well,
because you know that's just what people do. I mean,
what is he a loan shark? What is he? You know,
a dollar loan center as well? This was the suit states,
money she could not possibly return. In twenty fourteen, Ghanieva
alleges that Black raped her when she was sick at
home and so weak she could barely walk. Wow, sounds
about right. Are any of you getting the idea here?
Maybe some of you that were lagging behind with Leon
Black praps getting the idea of the person that I've
been trying to explain to you for the past two years.
Dude's a sick man, in my opinion, folks, a very
sick man. Her suit claims never a match for his
physical size and strength. On this day, in particular, miss
Ganieva knew what fate was in store. It goes on
to claim that after he had finished, Black stated, now
I have FD you before walking out, leaving Ghanieva naked
and unable to move. I mean, the nature of this
stuff that we discuss here is so disturbing, folks that
I'll tell you, I cannot wait for it to be done.
I can't wait for these people to be convicted. I
can't wait for charges to be brought because what they
were engaging in, what these people were doing is legit
top rung evil. The following year, Black allegedly offered forgiveness
on Ganiheva's loans on condition that she signed an NDA.
And there it goes again, right that money, If you
got that dough and you got a big bag, you
can do whatever you want. And that's just a coolhar
reality of it. So for those of you who have
kids out there, daughters, and be very careful, be very
very careful. There are sharks in the shallows. Today, her
lawyers have described Black's recent claims that Ganiaeva has extorted
him as utterly false and malicious. She is asking for
damages and a permanent injunction restraining Black and any of
his representatives of his from having any contact with her.
Wigdor LLP partner Gene M. Christiansen describes the case as
the epitome of why meto exists, and look, I agree
with that statement. Honestly, there should be blowback against people
in power who are using that power to abuse women,
or abuse men, or to abuse anybody. There should be
a big time blowback with that. And this is a
framed case right here for you to stare at. This
is the epitome of it all. She said In textbook fashion,
men with wealth, power and an army of elite lawyers
continue to escape accountability for their heinous acts by twisting
the legal system to penalize their victims for speaking up. Sadly,
until prosecutors consistently go after sexual predators that wrongly accuse
sexual assault victims of extortion, it is clear that me
too has many miles to go. Now, I agree in
some regard there, but it's not just men, right hey,
we know that again, almost forty percent of people involved
in trafficking are women, and women who are in powerful
positions are just as scummy as men. That brings us
full circle right back to my point. I'm always making
that we as human beings in general, folks are gray characters.
Leon Black, on the other hand, absolute villain. If you
like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby cap you Cci
at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on
Twitter at Bobby Underscore cap u Cci. All of the
links that go with this episode can be found in
the description box to everybody who has donated. What's up, everyone,
and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Whenever you're talking
about Jeffrey Epstein's buddies, there's one man that you most
certainly have to add to the conversation, and that person
is Leon Black. Well. Now, Leon Black has opened up
about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein in an interview with Puck,
and honestly, everything he says in the interview pretty much
just makes me roll my eyes. I don't believe for
a second that a man like Leon Black had no
idea why one hundred and sixty plus million was being
spent with Epstein. I just don't believe it. Do you
think guys like this get rich by misplacing one hundred
million dollars plus? The answer is no. And anyone believing
this guy's BS, well, I don't know what to tell you.
Today's article is from the Daily Beast and The headline
Leon Black finally opens up about his pal Jeffrey Epstein.
This article was authored by Kate Bricklett. Billionaire Leon Black
is speaking out about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein for
the first time since resigning from his private equity firm,
claiming the famous men in the sex traffickers circle likely
didn't know that Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile. I mean,
you know, that first arrest, that wouldn't have tipped you
off or anything, considering there was a bunch of little
girls that were brought to his house. But nah, just
keep on keeping on with your dumbass narrative. And to
be clear, Leon Black kept a relationship with Epstein even
after the first arrest, So don't tell me you didn't know.
Save that shit for somebody else. The ex Apollo ceo,
whose relationship with Epstein tarnished his name and led the
lawsuits accusing him of sexual abuse exclusively, sat down with
Pucks William Cohen to defend his reputation amid continued scrutiny
over his relationship with the late sex offender. Cohen wrote
that the seventy two year old mogul grabbed a piece
of paper from his Sue Jacket in the middle of
their lunch with his PR team and scribbled a bunch
of names of people who also hung out with Epstein
at one time or another, black listed former presidents Clinton
and Trump, billionaires Mard Zuckerman, Reed Hoffman, and Tom Pritzker,
as well as Epstein's old JP Morgan buddy, Jess Staley,
an academic Nom Chomsky. So what does that mean? You're
just outing all your buddies as fellow travelers. Bro, That's
not the flex you think it is, especially considering what
we know about a lot of those people. Anyone who's
out here talking about Bill Clinton like he's a good
guy should get slap directly in the chops. And the
fact that the Democratic Party's trotting this dude out like
it's a good idea is going to be met with
extreme prejudice, I promise you that. And what's the deal
with the Biden administration bringing aboard Epstein's homies. We had
Bill Richardson involved in the Brittany Griner negotiations. We have
the current head of the CIA who was having lunch
with Jeffrey Epstein. Now you're bringing back Bill Clinton. Yeah,
that's a good look. And the sad part is there's
people on the left that are going to defend that, Oh,
Bill Clinton's a great guy, he was never man. Shut up.
That line of thinking is do way around these parts.
I'm not, in any way, shape or form defending Jeffrey Black,
who knew Epstein since the mid nineteen nineties, told Cohen,
I'm defending me. I don't believe any of these guys
knew that Jeffrey was a pedophile. I certainly didn't. So
let me bring up all these other people. Let me
name drop, and then I'll engage in some what about ism.
So you don't know, one way or the other what
they knew or what they I didn't know. I thought
he was a fascinating guy, So yeah, I spend time
with him. I'd go up have lunch or breakfast with
him because I lived two blocks from him, and we
would talk about tax and estate planning and financial things.
I'm sure that's all you guys ever talked about. I'm
sure you guys never talked about anything else while you
were hanging out. It was all on the up and up,
and I'll all had to do with tax and estate planning,
never had to do with women. Right. Ever, Black added
that he dined at Epstein's New York mansion with others
including director Woody Allen, TV host Dick Cavitt, and Trump's
far right strategist Steve Bannon. Does he think he's dunking
on somebody with that? Steve Bannon's another undesirable another person
who was in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit. You see, here's the
difference between me and the rest of these clowns who
profess that they care about justice. Everybody who was involved,
I don't care about the letter next to your name.
You need to be held to account. And that goes
for all of the faves that all these people love
to protect. You know, the same people who are calling
for accountability when it was alex Acosta. All those people
have slithered back into their holes, or maybe they're just
too busy worrying about Gaza. Everybody looks at it through
the lens of this is public enemy number one for
being a pedophile. He was smart, and I thought that
he performed services for a bunch of his associates. Yes,
and he was a bit offbeat in counterculture and eccentric. Yes,
Black continued, Is this guy really out here? Saying this,
so in essence, his defense of his relationship with Epstein
is everybody else was doing it. Okay, great, good for you,
Leon Black, So that makes you as big of a
scumbag as everybody else. As The Daily Beast reported, Black
stepped down from Apollo not long after the company enlisted
a law firm to independently investigate his relationship with Epstein.
In twenty twenty, As stories about epstein sex trafficking scheme
and his accomplice, Glene Maxwell continue to make headlines in
the wake of Epstein's two thousand and ninety arrest and
Jelhouse death, Black fended off questions from the media and
investors about his entanglements with him. The Apollo probe, which
Black now claims he requested, found that Black paid Epstein
one hundred and fifty eight million dollars between twenty twelve
and twenty seventeen for his state and tax planning advice,
and portrayed a relationship much deeper than Black had publicly described. Yeah,
it's no big deal. Everybody's off base here. Everybody is
accusing Leon Black, mister billionaire, the victim, and I can't
help crying into my top. Rahmen with laughter every time
one of these billionaires tries to set themselves up as
some kind of victim. I mean, for real, for real,
Bro's never worked a real day in his life, busy
sending his goons to harass his accusers. And he's going
to sit here and tell us that, well, he just
didn't know anything about Epstein and he just got roped
into it. Who's buying that nonsense? The billionaire art collector
has denied any wrongdoing in connection with Epstein and the
allegations that he sexually abused women at Epstein's lair. Now,
as far as those allegations of abuse, I don't know.
I've said that from the beginning. But the other stuff, enabling,
hanging out with Epstein, helping Epstein's image, all of that,
all of that shit's true. There's not even a debate,
there's no allegedly that's what was happening. Still, Black's friendship
with Epstein has continued to cost him, while he and
one of his accusers, Sherry Pearson, decided to drop their
litigation in February. Another woman suit alleging that he raped
her when she was sixteen, is pending. In January twenty
twenty three, Black paid the government of the US Virgin
Islands sixty two and a half million dollars in cash
to be released from any claims tied to its investigation
into Ebstein. And the fact that the USVII would accept
that bag to let this dude off the hook tells
you everything you need to know about the USVII and
how serious they are or not about justice. How long
have I told you, folks that remember all the people
out there talking about how Denise George is some hero
and the rest of it. Well, guess what they were wrong.
The settlement, according to the Times, stated that it should
not be interpreted as an admission of liability. So what
was it? A shakedown? Extortion? If you're not liable, then
why are you paying out sixty two and a half
million dollars. One of Epstein's victims settlement with the financiers
of State included a carve out provision allowing her to
pursue claims against Staley and Black. Cohen asked what went
through Black's mind after Epstein's two thousand and six arrest
force soliciting a prostitute, which preceded a federal sex trafficking
probe into Epstein's abuse of miners and a sweetheart deal
and the US Attorney's office in Miami that led to
a cushy jail sentence. Black replied that he believed Epstein
when he got caught up with a seventeen year old
prostitute who lied about her age and didn't view it
as the end of the world. Well, that tells me
everything I need to know about Leon Black. And why
is Jeffrey Epstein out here picking up prostitutes allegedly off
the street. Dude has more money than God. Bring in
an escort, Bring in somebody who does it for a living.
You were out here trollin looking for little girls. Bro,
Just be honest about what you are. And Leon Black
over here, still trying to defend his friend, Jeffrey Epstein,
not doing himself any favors. I took it seriously, Black said,
But I didn't take it that seriously. I mean he
was with a seventeen year old prostitute, got prosecuted for
it and got put away for a year. The billionaire added,
and you know, according to him, even that person had
shown an ID that she wasn't underage. My feeling is
there are serious things, and there are things that are
less serious. I didn't think this was the end of
the world. Frankly so, A seventeen year old girl who
was underage under the age of consent in Florida, by
the way, and Epstein's having relations with her is no
big deal to Leon Black. Chances are Lee on Black
is the same kind of sick fuck in my opinion,
Now run home and tell that. And remember, we're not
talking about a nineteen year old and a seventeen year old.
We're not talking about a twenty year old and a
seventeen year old, you know, people who were in high
school together. We're talking about old ass, gross ass, cripkeeper
looking dudes who were all fellow travelers. In my opinion.
Black insisted that he stayed close with other wealthy people
who went to jail, lifestyle guru Martha Stewart, financier Michael Milkin,
and Southee's owner Alfred Todman. We're still friends. They all
went to jail. I didn't think being with a seventeen
year old prostitute who said that she had proof she
was over seventeen was that big of a deal. Well,
if any of that was true, don't you think that
would have came up in court and your boy would
have gotten off. Nobody showed any id. In fact, if
she would have showed an idea that said she's seventeen,
chances are old boy would have try and find a
younger girl. And as far as being friends with people
who have been to jail, there's a big difference in
being friends with somebody went to jail for whatever charge
and then somebody who's accused of molesting little girls. Because
let's not try and reinvent history here. Even back during
this time period that Leon Black's talking about, these rumors
were there, these allegations were there, and Leon Black making
pretend that none of that's true. Is him trying to
rewrite history, and his bitch ass isn't gonna get away
with that, at least not here on this podcast. Black
said that he first met Epstein in nineteen ninety six
through Wall Street polymath Elliott Skipstein Junior, and learned he
was a Rockefeller University appointee, member of the Council on
Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, and hung out with
a host of high powered people, including Israeli politician at
Whood Barack. Now, none of that is the flex that
you think it is once again being a member of
the CFR. While that automatically elevates you to scumbaggery. If
you're asking me and the Trilateral Commission, we're gonna go there.
Oh but you know he hung out with Edwood Barrock,
so everything's all gully. Really, Edward Barrock's another scumbag. So,
in my opinion, Leon Black is doing himself no favors
in this interview, Epstein would earn a spot on Black's
family foundation and help them avoid tax liabilities aka avoid
taxes like all rich people do, meaning stash your money
by art and put it in places where the government
can't touch it. Meanwhile, all of you better have all
of your taxes paid up by April fifteenth. Black called
Epstein an intriguing figure who was almost like a James
Bond villain because all his staff were good looking women.
Not under age, Black at it, but good looking. How
do you know? Did you id all of them? Did
you take a look at Virginia's id? How about Hailey Robson's?
How about all of the unnamed girls we never heard about?
Did you look at their IDs? You dumb fucking moron.
The billionaire noted that he wants flu on Epstein's jet
to Boston with two of his children to visit Harvard
and MIT, and that his pilot was a beautiful girl
with blonde hair down to her waist in a black turtleneck.
One alleged co conspirator of Epstein, who after Epstein's twenty
nineteen arrest, came forward as a victim, was a trained pilot.
It's unclear if she's the individual Black met. Yeah, chances
are it's Nadil Marsinchenko who he's talking about here, and
that's a whole different story for another time. Nadia is
one of the most tragic situations that we run across
in Epstein's whole, entire sorted bitch ass life at turns.
In the interview, Black seemed to paint himself as a victim.
As news outlets, including The New York Times ferreted out
his payments to Epstein, Black ass the Apollo board to
hire an outside law firm to review his ties to
the trafficker. I'm the only one who asked for the
investigation to be done. What a schmuck of my relationship
with Epstein, Black told Cohen, I asked for it because
I knew I had done nothing wrong. Goddamn, the revisionist
history is too much. You've done nothing wrong. Okay, sit
for a deposition. The January twenty twenty one report from
Deckert LLP stated that it uncovered no evidence that Black
or any employee of the Family Office or Apollo was
involved in any way with Epstein's criminal activities at any time.
There is no evidence at Epstein ever introduced Black or
offered to introduce Black to any underage women. I don't
buy it. Sorry, I do not buy that. Okay. Now,
I'm not saying Black engaged in any relations, but if
he was around Epstein this much, that whole entire storyline
is out the window. Deckert also noted that in early
twenty seventeen, Black may two loans to Epstein totaling thirty
and a half million in connection with an art transaction
involving Epstein. Epstein would repay only ten million, despite Black's
repeated demands for reimbursement. Stop it, okay, less Wexner, stop it.
That money that you say he stole or you'd get
reimbursed for that was his fee to stash your money
off shore. Do you think we're stupid. Well maybe some
people are, but here on this podcast, you're not gonna
be able to out hustle me. Bro, You are not
gonna out hustle a hustler. Okay, save that bullshit you're
pitching for one of these jerkofs from fancy lad school.
Black even told Cohen that before Apollo's investigation he never
kept track of how much money he was paying the
convicted pervert. He had credibility in my eyes, and we
did a bunch of things, but the paying of Epstein
was never tallied. And frankly, that number that came out
was much bigger than I had thought because I don't
follow in my family office everything. Black claimed, Yeah, you
get this rich by not knowing where hundreds of millions go,
and you can say that it's implausible. Oh don't worry.
That's exactly what we're saying, mister Black. How is this
possible that this financial genius could throw away these amounts
of money? There must be something more there, Yeah, I
get it, but there isn't. So you're not as smart
as you told us you were. Is that what you're saying?
You're not one of the smartest men in the room,
because for all these years, all we heard about was
how great Leon Black is and what a financial genius
he is. And in fact, what you are is just
a gigantic jackass. Black's bond with Epstein, Cohen writes, wasn't
enough to end his relationship with Apollo. Instead, the falling
out arrived after Guzelo Ganieva, a Russian former model he dated,
filed a lawsuit accusing him of rape and sexual violence.
In turn, Black accused her of extortion, saying he'd paid
her millions during and after their affair. The world is
an ugly place, Black told Cohen, and it's a beautiful place. Okay,
it's both. Well, why did you cheat on your wife
who was sick in the first place. You would have
never found yourself in the situation you did with guzel
Ganieva if you would have just kept your dick in
your pants. But no, you can't even do that, right,
No honor amongst these people. There isn't one shred of
honor to be found amongst the billionaire class. And I'm
convinced of that. This has been a terrible experience for
the last two and a half years, Black added, I
mean to have spent forty years building up a stellar
reputation and then believing in excellence and everything that I've
done is about excellence. And then to have a torn
apart based on lies, fabrication me too woke, and I'm
a huge believer in women's causes. It's surreal. Oh yeah,
you're such a big believer. And the funniest part is
none of that has anything to do with what happened,
you know what. The whole entire problem is here. Now,
try and stick with me. It's very complicated. The fact
that Leon Black was hanging out with a child molester.
That's your problem, sir, None of the other stuff. Not
that you got called out on it, not that you
lost your job, not that people were being mean to you,
the fact that you were not only hanging out with
a child molester, but you were enabling him. So you
want victimhood, my friend, You want to see what a
real victim looks like. Just take a look at the
women who were abused in the hundreds maybe thousands by Epstein.
You know what a victim doesn't look like, Well, a
victim doesn't look like a billionaire name Leon Black. All right, folks,
that's gonna do it for this one. All of the
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