Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to They've actually done it.
Speaker 2: This is not a drill this time.
Speaker 1: We are here. We have arrived. They have actually gone
and done it. We'll get to what that's about a
little bit later. Welcome to that it's not metal, and
welcome to Hyperblasts are this week particularly delicious weekly news
show where we let you know everything that's been going
on that you want to know over the past week
or sorry, from the world of rock, hardcore, heavy music,
heavy metal. My name is parent Hayish. My fellow rejoicer
over here is Sam Dignon. Honestly, like Sam, this week,
like prior to yesterday, I was looking at it's been
like this is a real like this is a slow week.
I might just like come on myself and knock out
a quick, you know, twenty minute yeah solo episode or something.
And then particularly today, everything's happened like loads of.
Speaker 3: Announcements for like shows, festivals, bands teasing new music, bands
dropping new songs and be like here we've got an
album here there and everything come back sort of like
unlikely things like yeah, it's all hit in like the
last like to twenty four hours or so if even that,
like it's been a very big day.
Speaker 1: Prior to that we will cover after we said everything
that you'll know from around the week or so, so
let's get into it, you know, prior to again, a
lot of the big announcers that we're dropping today and
stuff like that. I do want to lead with the
fact that at the Gates have been heavily teasing you know,
their new album that is to be released very very soon.
I believe that, you know, Friday, as you are listening
to this, it is likely I would say that we
will have like an album announcement, perhaps a single as well.
So obviously we will we will talk about that when
we get to it. But that has been you know,
simmering over the past couple of days, like I said,
prior to today, and loads of stuff going on. The only
like big track of the week we really had was
Don Broco and Nickelback colabing, which I believe dropped like
last Friday after wed you know, recorded last week's episode
and just seeing the teaser of this, you Don Broco
are not really a band. We spend a lot of
time talking about these days for you know, various reasons.
Nickelback a Nickelback. They will always be Nickelbacker. You know
what you're getting with them, but as a real teaser
to have dropped, isn't it? And then the song came
out and it's a very bizarre combination of two bands
that I guess on meme potential alone, you can see
how they've gotten together, but you would never musically put
them together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this to me, when I saw this was
like Don Broker on those bands at they are massively
popular over here in the UK, there's no denying that,
but just about everywhere else they are.
Speaker 2: Like a bit of a non event. So when I
saw though, like legg and Nipper, I was like, oh,
this is their final America.
Speaker 3: So when I saw that happening, I was like, right,
call this what it's gonna be. And then the song itself,
it is you know Don Broco's usual sort of wacky
stick that they tend to like focus on now, which
some people love it, some people I find it quite
like tiring at this point is that with then a
sappy Nickelback chorus kind of like awkwardly sandwiched in it,
and like this kind of like turns into my wide
issue of a lot what's popular right now, which is
these anti songs where like nothing jels together, nothing makes it.
Speaker 2: But they're doing so many different things.
Speaker 3: And it's like yeah, but it's none of it actually
fits together nicely. Like sure, it's nice that you can
do like a jazz break and then a pro guitar
solo and fuck those what else?
Speaker 2: Like what Bill Marray? What any of these bands want
to do?
Speaker 3: But just like write a fucking good song And this
is what we're again. When I call this Don Broco
song comes in, it's kind of like the versus is
kind of like metalcore ish like but just kind of
like with this kind of weird, kind of like bouncy
brit rock tech metal like kind of mess.
Speaker 2: And then that niickeback chorus comes in.
Speaker 3: And it's so kind of like the whiplash that verse
into that chorus, it's so jarring. And then when it
kind of gets to the end of the song and
they go on like the big swelling guitar songs, like
this is so removed from that whole like night tripping,
like weird vocal bit and all that.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't. I just it's too much
of a headache for me to deal with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does it sounds like two different songs, and
you've got Broco on the verses doing they're like, oh,
you know, we're funky electro Monkey's kind of thing, which
you know they have, you know, various tracks in their
catalog that you know do well in that particular lane.
But then when it switches into the Nickelback chorus, not
only do you switch to like, I know that nickelback
can be fun, but this isn't even Nickelback being fun.
This is like this sappy nickelback like it's really like
a super serious sounding chorus which does not feel like
it should have come. Like imagine if you know, take
any of your the Don Broco songs in this lane
that people like, be it, you know, Manchester, Super Red's
number one fan or come out to La or whatever.
If you did that and instead of the fun chorus,
you put in like real like a like a really
dreary heartstring tugging breaking Benjamin Hookers like people wouldn't like
those songs. It's a weird opt to do. But sonically
as well, I swear like like the guitar tone like
just dramatic, like the whole production of the song shifts change.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it sounds like a mash up much more
than it does something that has been genuinely like being
organically worked out together. Very bizarre, but yeah, I mean
if it feels more frivolous than if it was to be,
I don't know. I mean, Don Broke always have that,
you know, that major said cheeky monkey tongue in cheek
kind of element to them. So it's not where you
want to say it's like try to break America or whatever.
It doesn't feel like them just completely giving themselves over
to you know, writing a Nickelback song. But what they
do doesn't go well like a band like nickel Back
or any of those bands in the ILK do. So
it was again it's it's as surreal as sort of partnership,
and you know, probably not the best idea in the
world beyond just the headline grabbing potential of it, as
it was a headline, and that was, as I said,
you know, primarily the big like oh yeah, that that's
at least a notable turn your head, what the fuck
track to have come out this week, But today loads
of announcements and I suppose the real big thing of
the week now comes from the Foo Fighters who there
has been much murmuring about releases from them coming soon.
There was even, you know, a little bit of talk
that perhaps they were going to be releasing a surprise
album this Friday. As you were hearing this turned out
to be not the case there because their new album
is called Your Favorite Toy. It's out April the twenty fourth,
and they have released a title track from it, not
an opening track, which is always kind of nice to
see with a single these days. It's sort of mid album,
but it's like a sub three minute song New Foo
Fighters obviously, the last Foo Fighters album is the best reviewed,
certainly by ours, best reviewed Food Fighters album in like
God like you know this day is about fifteen years, right,
so I suppose there'd be some interest in what the
next thing was, but you put it in the overall,
you know, the the arc of latter day Food Fighters,
and we've had ups and downs and ups and downs
and following up your you know, your your best most
well reviewed album in as said, nearly fifteen years. It
could have gone either way. It seems like we're back
to weird head scratching. I'm not quite sure what the
Food Fighters are going for. Food Fighters which is actually
a new phenomenon relatively speaking, Like you know, you're we're
used to maybe kind of drab, boring food fighters, but ay,
what is this? Food Fighters is more like a what
a medicine at midnight sort of phenomenon. It seems like
we're sort of not in the same exact sonic lane
as that, but that sort of general like phenomenon of
food fighters is what we see to be back to
with this single.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this was kind of like the realism
is like you get one a decade of food Fighters
as it works, now you get one a decade and
then it's back to again. Yeah, this isn't as kind
of like just like drab and kind of like say,
but like I was going to work out what the
decision making was because I don't think what it's interesting anyway.
But then like there's like the weird vocal effects and
it just it doesn't really kick off.
Speaker 2: In any way. I was kind of like, what are
you exactly coming for?
Speaker 3: Because again, like food fighters for me are at the
best and then in two lanes is when they are
ripping or they are like ripping hard and when they
are fully tugging on your heart strings and giving you
that like uber emotionally sincere kind of like massive rock
song like that. Those those like the Two Lanes, I'm
like free fights. When you're in them, you are at
your best. And this is kind of like nowhere near
either of them. It's this weird hodgepodge of just kind
of like stodgy, kind of.
Speaker 2: Like badly produced. I guess they go through that the
garage rop thing again. It feels a little bit yeah, But.
Speaker 1: Like I felt like this really came up with Medicine
at Midnight, is that the Food Fighters are nowhere near
as good a band at being kind of dynamic and
unpredictable as they see to think they are. Like they
seem to think because they are one of the biggest
bands in the world and they have carte blanche to
do anything. Really, they seem to think that they're they're this,
you know, genre bleeding, moving across the musical map kind
of band. But the problem is whenever they actually do that,
it sucks. And that's what we saw we met ASMO.
We're like, why are you trying to be a fucking
like David Bowie sort of seventies disco kind of band
that you're not good at and this I again, I'm
not entirely sure what it is, like what like what
the seed where this song Germany's from? Like where did
they start? Is it, as you're saying, a bit kind
of garage rock? Is it almost them going for the
idols thing? Are they trying to do almost like you
know what Queens of stone Age can do quite well
of that, you know, slightly more sleazy.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I've I.
Speaker 3: Kind of most associate this is trying to do that
kind of like latter Queens of the Stone Age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you know, Dave vocally is not being
either as you're saying, you know, ripping screaming Dave or
incredible writer of these melodic hooks Dave. He's kind of
doing this tuneless sneering slightly more out of control, which
is where I maybe got the again modern post punk
kind of comparisons from. It's got this bizarre nana nana
kind of jeering, you know, trying to be a bit
more fun. I suppose, you know, good Time hook They
have probably some of the worst production I think consistently
of these like you have all the money in the
world type bands, right, They remind me a little bit
of maybe like Green Day circa Father or Motherfuckers right
where it's like, you are enormous, Why have you made
your record so garbled like this? Even like the last album,
which again is comfortably their best album in a long time,
I would overall say it's a very strong album. The
actual like sound of it, the production of it. I
didn't love, like it wasn't bad to get in the
way of it, but it doesn't to me sound like
a really you know, beautifully produced album in the way
that you know you would want a great rock album
like that to be. When they then take that into
they're then faux attempts at like disco or garage rock
or whatever where, Like the drum sound is really like
fucking roboticized and bizarre, and you combine that with the
blown out guitars that have the sort of like wind
tunnel effect. This is, you know, where we've been in
the last week or so. But I was having be
here and Now flashbacks in terms of like this is
a really overloaded mix, and I don't quite know what
the decisions have been to go into it. It's not
the worst through fighters single that we've we've ever had
I would probably say, you know, some of that can
some of those that ones are worse. But I have
the same sensation of scratching my head being like, I
don't really know what you're going for on this, and
as they look into I mean even the album cover
on this, it has that same bizarre you know, father
or Motherfuckers esque, if you like, collage of just like
just kind of a bit bit mess and a bit
of you know, meaningless and just chucking shit at a wall.
And I wonder if we're basically in for another one
of those albums after they've got Obviously the last album
had a lot of you know, genuine emotional weight behind
it that kind of helped spark I suppose where you know,
those songs came from this, I don't know if it's
just them, you know, obviously fair enough moving on from
that particular period in your life, but where do you
go from that? And the answer is nana, Nana, yes,
quite yeah, So not quite sure what's going on there.
Obviously as a touring letter in the year, so I
suppose it makes sense that they have a new record
to back them up with that. We also have an
announcement of a new album from American Football. It's their
first album in a number of years, about six or
seven years at the stage. It's only their fourth album
ever because of course they went away for a long
period of time. Emo legend thoroughly canonized at this point
as regular stable, you know, headliners of any such festival
that deals in that kind of material. One of the
most beloved and revered and imitated bands in that sphere. Ever.
They are I would say, at least to the common man, right,
maybe not the hardcore fan, but to the common man. Ye,
they're kind of a one album band. And when this
was announced, I because I remember the American Football coming
back and having the reunion album, but I couldn't for
the life we remember if people actually liked it and
off people thought were really good. So I put this
to the American Football fans, you know, was the last
appen well liked? And with that in mind, is their
excitement for the fourth American Football album.
Speaker 3: I think like it's one of those things we're like
they have, you know, their one ironclad like classic album
that like you can't mess with, and then the others.
If you're in on that Emo thing, they're well liked enough.
I'd say that. I mean the third album was maybe
slightly more likely than the come Oat record just too.
It was like different set of expectations where I think
the second one was like, oh my god, American football
are back, and then it was kind of like not
as good as LPI one, and then one can have
had to sort of reset expectations for Yeah, twenty ten's
American football is compared to Knights American football. So when
they did that third aw one, you know, they had
a Haley Williams guest spot, which that kind of links
into another animal gets we're talking about.
Speaker 2: But like it was, I mean, well liked enough, so
I think there would definitely be.
Speaker 3: Some people who will be in I think given their
kind of re emergence of presence.
Speaker 2: In the live sphere over the last sort of like
two years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's maybe put a little bit more eyes
on this fourth album, which might get a bit more
kind of excitement drummed up for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that album. Yeah, we go May the
first that one's coming out. Let's riff on what exactly
what you were just saying, a failure the beloved cult
kind of alternative space rock band. If you suppose from
the nineties who reunited about a decade ago. Now you know,
the Failure reunion has been going pretty strong. They have
got their now seventh studio album called Location Lost that's
coming on April the twenty fourth. There is a single
from that one out, but there was also a Hailey
Williams guest feature appearing on this track list somewhere, which
is becoming one of the most regular sets of words.
I think we said Haley Williams guest feature is Yeah,
three four of those a year.
Speaker 2: She just goes on all her favorite bands.
Speaker 3: Now it feels like because that Failure are like kind
of like well noted as one of Haley William's fair bands.
She was like bigging them up long before they were
like back in kind of a thing people talked about.
Her fan with that band is sort of well known
for people playing attention, so it makes sense that eventually
she would fired her way onto a Failure record in
the same way she was always shogging about American football,
so it makes it made sense when she eventually appeared there.
But yeah, she just kind of just side questioning, isn't
she And I think like having fun doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think American football the house and everything is
so immediately kind of I think a lot of people
probably know American football. It'd be cool if you know,
people who aren't really so family with a band like
Failure kind of follow down that path and you know, yeah, yeah, sure,
why not appear on these you know, revered bands and
get a few more eyes on them if they deserve it.
Grand stuff. Yeah, Failures album out in late April. Let's
get BACKWARDO still gain some stories. I've had a lot
of eyes and you know, plava around them. I suppose
Arch Enemy have been certainly near today the talk of
the metal sphere. I suppose because they have been for
a little while. They've been teasing their course. Were in
need of a new singer after Alyssa White Glues left
the band a while ago. There was a bizarre little
speaking of Palavas, there was a bizarre little thing this
week where everyone immediately jumped on the idea that Angela
Gossa was going to be rejoining the band because Arch Enemy,
you know, shared a little teaser of being like, you
know something coming, and Angela Gossau shared on her Instagram
the same thing, and everyone, oh my god, Angela Gossaw's
back in the band. People forget that Angela Gossau has
been basically like Arch Enemy's manager for the last like
the whole time she's been out of the band, So
I can understand where that Missus seranthing came from. But
Angela Gossa was sharing something to do with Arch Enemy
is not unusual, like or guarantees her.
Speaker 2: She's still linked in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all this time she's there, so of course she's
going to big it up. But there you go. Today
we have had that question answered, and I think, you know,
I A would say this was cheenim. There's always a
bit of a divide between people who are like thoroughly
checked out of Arch Jenemy and like who even cares,
But then you see that they are actually illegitimately incredibly
big in the sphere of metal and consistently very popular band.
So again, particularly with the singer position, Arch Jenemy has
kind of become one of those torches being handed from
one person to another down the years kind of positions.
So I think there was always in a bit of
media attention around this. Today it's being unveiled with a
new song and everything that it is Lauren Hart, who
was in the band Once Human. Once Human, you may remember,
started about ten years ago. It was Logan made her
from like early machine Head, his band that he came
back with in the twenty tens. They were kind of
sort of you know, tech metally with a bit of
that arch Enemy melodic death metal flavor in there. And
I remember, you know, seeing Once Human and all that
back and they who were perfectly an okay band, perfectly
okay band. But you know Lauren in that band clearly
someone who has you know, come up through the kind
of arch Enemy mold of front Woman. So this is
I mean, just as a Lissa was coming after Angela.
It makes sense as you know, a safe sturdy pair
of hands, I think to pass us over to There
is a track out as I mentioned, it's called to
the Last Breath, And speaking of safe sturdy, it's exactly that.
Like it is a Arch Enemy lead single, I think
because it has this new you know, blood of the
new singer, it has more eyes on it then maybe
the last Also, you've had a few people be like,
oh my god, this is really good. I don't think
it's any better than any Arch Enemy lead single they've
done on their last like two three albums. I think
if you compare this too, I mean, if you want
to compare it to example, war Eternal, which was the
lead single from you know, announcing Alyssa as a leader
in the band, that's one of the best arch Jenemy
songs ever. This is pretty much pretty your standard. You know.
It's got a kind of it maybe a little bit
more old school flavor in that it sounds the riff
sounds like a riff that you know Michael could have
and has written really throughout the late nineties going into
the early two thousands. Then it moves into you know,
do or die, Time to Rise, the same kind of
stock phrases that you're always gonna find in your Archenemy
chorus and that kind of melody. It's not bad.
Speaker 2: I like this.
Speaker 3: I like again, I've never like, particularly dislike touching, but
I've never been like the biggest fan.
Speaker 2: But I thought this song was like I was kind
of I was like, is this any like better or worse?
Speaker 1: I'm not too I think it's exactly how it is.
Speaker 3: I did just think I was like the chorus and
I see you mean about like the very kind of
stolen age of the chorus, But that with like those
guitar melodies, it is pretty stirring, and it's kind of
like yeah, because I think that when we review like
the last six moment, I was like, there's a couple
of songs I did really like it. Yeah, that's just
kind of like I can you know, they're fine. I
think that's what my fing Marching is like.
Speaker 2: Their albums forst like, those are the good ones. I
really like them.
Speaker 3: The rest of they're not bad songs, but they're kind
of just lesser versions of the good songs. Maybe that's
kind of where I was doing this, and I would
put this probably in the sort of bracket of like
with the sort of the good ones off the last album,
where I was like, yeah, I do this is good,
less do it.
Speaker 2: It's got a good bands for selling pretty.
Speaker 3: Hard but big melodic, stirring, and I was like, yeah, cool,
this is as a sort of like first announcement.
Speaker 2: It's not a game changernything. It's not gonna like set
the one on fire, but it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a good kind of sort of I
guess the fans are sort of like, don't worry, We're
still you know, the arch enemy.
Speaker 2: You recognize have a bit of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not blowing my skirt up in a dramatic way,
but it is. I think Arch to Me are just
such a consistent and again safe kind of band. Maybe
there'll be some renewed interest because it is renewed again
lineup and a new face at the front of the
band in the way that has happened on a couple
of occasions with Arch Enemy. But I can't. I don't
feel like their trajectory of the sort of the level
of quality they have been making for the last like
you know, decade or so, I don't see it really
pivoting one way or another off the back of this
it sounds like an Arch song. You know. I did
enjoy the music video where a real European music video
metal cgi epic environments are back in fashion in front
of like a green screen volcano. Like yes, take me
back to the mid two thousands where Archenem I need
to see this now. It's not quite you know, with
in temptation ice green level graphics, but it did. It
gave me some nostalgic fluzzy, so that's nice. The mad
thing about the Archenemy and Absolument I found is that
they are off the back of this, they're doing a
small venue, like an intimate European club top yeah. And
that includes two in the UK, the Underworld in London
and Rebellion in Manchester, which is a like Rebellion is
one of my local venues that I go and see
small hardcore and black metal shows and stuff. And I
was like, Arch Enemy and Rebellion that's like a three
hundred CA. That's crazy. And then and then these went
on sale early today as we are recording this, so
obviously they're all well sold out. Immediately I did look
when they were going on sale. I was like, I'm curious.
Arch Enemy at the Underworld fifty five pounds.
Speaker 2: Underworld's expensive, now right, the.
Speaker 1: Rebellion shows like forty five pounds. Then I understand, you know,
it's a bigger band charging bigger prices, but like again, Rebellions,
that's a twenty quid venue. I was like, fucking, oh
forty five quick. Because you know, I've seen Arch Enemy regularly.
I'm not like desperate to see him again, but it
would have been cool to, you know, maybe see him
in a different setting. But I did, you know, I
balked out of that one, but I'm sure it'd be
good for everyone who is you know, very on top
of going to those tiny shows, surely the smallest ones
they've done in a long long time. And they're not
the only band this like Past Again twenty four forty
eight hours revealing their new lineup, because the one that
I was really you know, following the updates of is
never More announcing their new lineup, which the reunited never
More an outsort of last year or so, playing lots
of shows over the course this year, their first one
coming up in a couple of months. The big question
in Nevermore is who was going to fill out the
rest of the band, particularly I think the singer position
because of the departed Warrel Dane, who was one of
the most distinctive, idiosyncratic in that kind of big power,
heavy metal kind of voices, big big shoes to fill
Worrel Danes and finding someone who could you know, live
up to that is a big ask. But they have
released a whole like rehearsal footage kind of session of
them playing through a bunch of songs. There's also an
audition video that's been released. I think there'll be more
to come as well with the guy they've got in
the band now, so as a full, you know, a
revamped lineup of never More outside of you know, Van
Williams and Jeff Lumis are the consistent guys at this point.
Their new singer is called Burzan on end and I, again,
I know nothing about this guy other than what I've
learned in the last like twenty four hours. I'm kind
of obsessed with this guy. Like the first thing I
saw of this was his own Instagram video that came
from my feed of him saying like, Hi, I'm the
new singer in Nevermore and the I just the vibes
I get off this man are immaculate because he appeared
and he's this like really like this tall, ripped, incredible
long mane of hair, like good looking Turkish man, and
he speaks and his speaking voice beyond his singing voice,
is incredible. He's like a man you would want to
read an audio book to you. Mark nailed it exactly,
saying he sounds like a man who would turn up
seven minutes into a twelve minute long Twilight fourth song
to do a spoken word model. Like that's exactly the
vibe I got off the man, and like I think
he's wearing us like a tank top, but his hair
is so long. I thought he was just shirtless. And
he throwing the horns and he's like, hello, I am
basan on then and I am the new singer in
never More. We are going to sing our songs together
and throws the horn that It's like like the shirt,
the hair, the pause before the dramatic saying of together,
everything about this man just screams this is this is
a metal king right here. I love this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this dude is like heavy metal. Like when he
throw the horns in the picture. His voice is just
this was just a reassuring by his voice.
Speaker 1: It's it's an incredible voice, Like go and fucking watch
this video on his grap just him like introducing himself
to his speaking voice. Is he has so much gravitas.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like booming gravitas and all that. And I
was like I don't I'm like Nevermore.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of investing going to the Nevermore now because
this guy just seems like a dude who rocks.
Speaker 2: And then I saw he's like audition video. When you
see I was like, he is like a character. He's
like distinct. I was like fair play. They could not
found someone who's like again, somebod who doesn't knows very long.
Speaker 3: They feel like they've got a guy who is like
just a heavy metal front man who's just gonna have
been lost away until now.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I think he's been you know, active for
probably some time in you know, the Turkish metal scene.
He I said, They've got this like whole you know,
rehearsal set of them playing a bunch of songs together,
and he's you know, I watched the thing earlier, and
he's great, particularly when you watch the audition video they
put out of him singing Born, which is like fucking
an unbelievable metal song. He fucking crushes it. Which, considering
war Al Dane is you, one of the reasons it's
hard to replicate him is you don't just need a
you know, a technically good singer. You need someone who
is very technically good but is also a big singer, right,
who is a big character, like you're saying, who can
like swish between these like notes and ranges really you know, compellingly.
You need not just to be you know again have
the ability, but this kind of powerhouse sort of eccentricity
in the voice and at least him singing you know,
Warrel's parts as we've heard on these previosist and never
More songs, like he's fucking incredible on them. I think,
particularly that Born video like I'm gonna you know, I'm
gonna watch whatever all other audition videos of his they
might put out, because he sounds really really good on them,
and like never More on one of my bands, where
I'm really hoping at some point this year that I,
you know, I find myself in the same field as
them or whatever and I can catch them. But not
only the the just the performance of the songs as
we've seen here sounds like this sounds how you would
want never More coming back to sound essentially, but also,
just like I said, the vibes off this this front
man are so compelling.
Speaker 2: It's good times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm really excited about that good stuff. Like
I said, I really really hope to see never More
this year because this guy seems like he rocks. Let's
move on to even bigger announcements, because now we move
on to the live side of this particular hyperblast, and
there's actually a lot to get through, a lot of
big names and bigger festivals and shows and stuff on
the pipeline. But first we're going to check in on
a festival called All Points East technically the All Points
East Outbreak crossover thing. I still don't entirely know like
where one of those things and one ends, because it's just.
Speaker 2: Called it Outbreak London.
Speaker 1: That's why when I is calling it like, yeah, I
don't know, I mean, it looks more like All Points
East to me because there's not that many hardcore bands
on it.
Speaker 2: For one thing, Nobreak, Yeah, but there you go.
Speaker 1: All Points of East Outbreak London already even announced that
Deaftones headlining it. Deaftones, I mean the fact that Deafens
are so big that they already had this announced ahead
of their like full uk arenat all and it didn't matter,
you know, like they just knew those shows were going
to sell and they can still go. Yeah, we're still
going to be back in the summer to do another
big London, you know, outdoor show. But I can't remember
how many these bands were already on that announcement prior
to this. It's on the poster all.
Speaker 2: The bands and the lighter font are the new bands added.
That's the distinction if you look at the poster.
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's clever, isn't That's futuristic? If for them, well,
in that case, likes of and Amil and the Sniffers
are all on their jpeg Mafia. But today added on
there is the band we've all been waiting for, Intero
Poll and Mannequin Pussy, but also AFI announcing a UK
show for the first time since twenty seventeen when they
supported death Tones on that Arena run or whatever it was.
It might even have an arenas at that point I
don't remember back then, and then played download of that.
Speaker 2: Year nine years past.
Speaker 1: At least one show announcement canceled by a pandemic, came
and passed, and here we are. We were looking a
little while ago. I felt like when this album announcement
came for you know, Silvery black Son back in October
whatever it was that that came out. I know it's
wishful thinking and we do this every time, but we
were looking at this album being like, this is going
to be the one, This is going to be the
word where AFI. I just have a feeling that AFI
will appear in the UK on this album. They were
doing cover stories in Kerrang and this kind of thing.
It's like, why are you even bothering talking to the
UK press if you're not going to fucking like try
and appeal to your UK fans at all. And then
a couple of weeks ago they announced a very similar
you know type of festival. Is this like a lot
of the bands on this bill are also on that
bill rocking sen in Paris and went they're across the channel,
they're here. And that was like a week or so
after this All Points East Outbreak Festival was slightly to happen,
and so that naturally got a lot of tongues chattering.
Maybe maybe they'll they'll come over here and here we go.
They are like fifth on a bill. They will play
for maximum an hour, probably less, in the sunlight in
front of a crowd of idols and Ammal and the sniffers,
fans and stuff. And then what they'll do is they'll go, oh,
these guys, they don't care about us, and then they
won't come back for another fucking decade. That's what's gonna happen,
because they are a self fulfilling prophecy who don't play
to their own fans. And then wonder why people don't
like them at the show as they play, but right
now they're playing the show in the UK.
Speaker 2: Get the negative the other way. I don't care.
Speaker 3: Like I was gonna skip Outbreak London, so I was
like I saw Deftones last summer, Like the rest of
the lineup is really doing it for me, you know,
basement cool. But they're at Outbreak Manchester, Death Evan are
very active at the moment, like there was not a
lot And I was like, I don't care if I
was an Amazon Animal and the Sniffers in twenty twenty
six and there now you're five, and I was like,
why I bought a ticket?
Speaker 2: Fuck it, I can't I can't chance it.
Speaker 3: I'm praying they put them headlining like the second stage
in the tent or something like that, like put them there,
put like because that's what again the really like actual
like alternative and like heavier stuff when on the second
stage are someone's like Glasstraw and Speed and not Blue Square.
Put a FI in that slot like near the top
of that stage, so they get an hour and then
and and again they can have a bit of atmosphere
and I will like say, I'll be over the Moon.
But I again, nothing matters they're playing in the UK.
This is these are like in terms of like my
favorite bands I haven't seen live yet. There are two
like bands that are now ticking off this summer in
the same weekend, in the Cure and a FI. And
I'm going to just be the happiest little goth me
version like ever I said in the discord, like we
can all talk the talk about like it's not gonna
be the ideal setting and all that blah blah blah.
I'm gonna try and backflip when they play Girls not
Great because I've been waiting so fucking long to see
that song live and I know it's like the most
basic AFI song I could pick apart from its murder,
But I don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've not seen a FI.
Speaker 3: I'm with you for so long, like they've been opening
with it on a lot of these a lot of
their recent shows. If they do that, I will crowd
surf and I will crowd to again.
Speaker 2: I just I can't. I am over the Moon. I
don't care tickets with Night five could.
Speaker 3: I don't have Night five could spend on a ticket
right now because I'm saving up all this other show
want going on in the summer. I bought a ticket
them in there because I had the break glass in
case of emergency, a FI money.
Speaker 2: Basically, all that it's.
Speaker 3: All the mad to be is like, I don't if
they that's the UK show, I'm going whatever the circustance is,
because even if again it is going to be with
an appet crowd and it'll be like the TNM contingent
losing our tiny little minds, like I just have to
be there because I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't have it be another decade. I will die
in that time. I'm sure that I've got a ticket.
Speaker 3: I am a happy little me ready to just watch
whatever AFI can get and just have the best time
for forty five minutes an hour, however long.
Speaker 2: It may be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I back everything you're saying, and it's it's not perfect,
you know, because I mean even when people are saying
I wonder if they'll play All Points Slash Outbreak London,
I was kind of going, I don't really want them
to play that to play I want to show, yeah,
because I mean part of what the jealousy of looking
over what America gets right is following the set lists
of like the last every time, yeah, and which is
what I have been doing, following the set list and
being like, oh my god, I want one of those,
you know, whichever fucking variant of it they turned up
on the day. I want that, you know, I want
that headline show and waiting for you know, essentially they're
for only show in a decade, and it is as
I mean, if they were headlining the tenth for example,
that would be perfect for what I want out of it.
If they are, you know, perhaps just as likely going
to be as said on the main stage, underneath the
like five in the Afternoon or something, Yeah, underneath the
likes of Idols and Animal and the Sniffers who you know,
don't I don't want to hate on those bands necessarily,
but they're not bound that I would have paid to
go and see. Right then, there is something obviously kind
of underwhelming about that, And after all the years of
like pent up Afi Afi, But I mean the fact
that I had more hope for Acid Bath to announce
more UK shows when they got added to like open
system of down stadium tours. Then I do AFI on
this because that's not AFI behavior of late? Is it
to treat us to more than one singular a decade
fucking thing. So after all of this time of talking
about a fi fi fi, even if the setting and
the set is not exactly perfect what I want to be,
of course you have to indulge. So yeah, I mean
like when I when I get the moment, I'm going
to try and you know, get myself down to this
as well. And as a lineup overall for me at least,
it's kind of middling. And this is when I say
it looks more like All Points East than it does Outbreak,
because there's hardly any hardcore on this right, Like there's
the outbreaking alternative rock in basement and I guess Mannequin
Pussy I know obviously like Jpeg Mafia is outbreak adjacent.
Speaker 3: But you know there's like a couple of the outbreak,
like the non hard gar break favors like Death Evan
and Jpeg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the embodiment of that sort of thing. I've
said that that is, Yeah, it gets a bit funky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I would not have paid this as an
outbreak at all because there's barely any fucking hardcore bands
on it, and if there's more bands to come, if
they were to actually add some more heavy bands. I
would be into that right now. I mean there's a
band on there called Salem, and a lot of people
were like, oh my god, will good Salem coming back
to play? Says Afi. No, it's not that Salem, but
it's it's a different Salem. Death Heaven really sweetening the
deal for me. Like, obviously, deaf Tones as a headliner
is a big sell. If it was Afi playing a
day with like some thing. I don't care about headlining
for you know, however much money that would be, that's
a harder sell. But deaf Tones obviously a brilliant headliner.
I didn't see the tour that just came through, so
I'd happily see them again, particularly.
Speaker 3: At least last Time's or Deathtones we didn't have the
new album. Yeah, we'll get some new album deaf Tones
in there, which will make that a bit more. I
may it'll be different from last time then, which is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe this is the year I go in on Interpol.
I don't know if I'd try it out. I suppose
more so than I have Death Heaven. Do sweeten the deal? You? Okay,
Death Tones, Afi and death Eavan, that's a day of
some bands that I fucking love. But as said, even
if it ain't perfect, even if I would absolutely love
them to add alongside as long as it's not on
the same day as the fucking Cure, you cunts, I
would love them to add another date show, to play
a proper show. But as it is, for the first
time in our whole blasted fucking segment of following a
FI and dreaming, there is a show on the cards
that a pandemic hopefully won't sweep away between now and June.
Keep your eyes off whatever August August it's even longer.
We got longer. But as an AFI show in the UK,
AFI Watch is maybe not entirely concluded all of our
chickens before they hatch, but right now it's it's seeming
a lot better than it has been in some times.
So happy, happy days. We've done it, everybody. We've survived
the absolute drought. Let Live also announcing their return to
the UK obviously has been much more recent for them
that they were around it, but they are adding a
whole bunch of shows to you know, European run that
kind of thing. They are playing Glasgow and two dates
at the Underworld as well in June, Sam, you're a
let live Manini. Actually you're probably gonna want to go
to the Underworld, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I land home from Japan two days before, so like
I was a good timing on that one. So yes,
I have a ticket let Live at the Underworld, which will.
Speaker 2: Be very fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff perfect, But then also a much you
know all did return. The fact that this Almos seems
like the smaller news after what we've just been through.
But the Dillander Escape Plan are returning to the UK
for the first time. Also since twenty seventeen, when it's
been so long for AFI that Dillander have broken up
and then come back then reunited in this weird like
early years only Dillinger form in the time that AFI
just haven't bothered here. But Dillinger are appearing in Europe
and this includes their first appearance in this again currently
active form in the UK at Brixton Academy in London.
And I know that Dillinger are like a big name
who can command these kind of exclusive things that draw
eyes to it, but it is objectively kind of funny
that a band that is currently only playing basically calculating
infinity material it's going to play Brixton Academy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's by far the biggest headline show Dillinger
have ever done in the UK. Like the fact that
they get like obviously we're in the ear of like
pig nostalgia and the obviously Dilndar have been away for yeah,
close to a decade, so it's gonna be there's gonna
be a draw.
Speaker 2: But that is that is just kind of like wow
that they are in a venue that size, But that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've never played that venue. You never filled that
venue and you had black bubble gum and like fowhell
mona Lise or whatever other songs you would to play. Yeah,
but forty three percent burn only in sugarga and sour only. Yes,
pull in the masses. I suppose it's just the weird
business word or they've adopted. But there you go, and
then you know, to flip to the other side of
the Dillingy camp. The guy he's not involved with what
they currently is The Black Queen, Greg Pachato's gothic since
pop band. They're gonna be touring the States this year
for a tenth anniversary tour of Forever Daydream, the first
Black Queen album, and I'm sure they've probably played some shows,
you know, in between the last album and here, but
I did look at this and go, oh, I'm glad
that Black Queen are active, because that's still for me,
that's my favorite thing that Greg has done post Illinger
by a mile. And instead of like, I mean, I
love the second album as well, I was like twenty eighteen,
and then in the last like eight years instead of
doing what I really wanted him was to kind of
follow on that kind of like you know, that incredible
sultry gothic electronic kind of roots. We got like bits
of it on quite you know, scattershot solo albums, and
then obviously him doing the Better Lover thing going back
to the hardcore trenches. But I would like, I mean,
I would like this to signal Black Queen actually being
a proper band again and like giving us a new album.
That'd be really nicecause I'd be excited about that. But
I'd like to see the Black Queen at the very least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen the Black Queen.
Speaker 3: And again, like obviously I think the Better Loves are
still of my favorite posting your thing because it's just
you know, the thing tied into so much more I love.
But I do really like the Black One, particularly that
first album, so I'd be very intrigued if this.
Speaker 2: Was to come over here, and I reckon I would
give that a good go then.
Speaker 1: Yes, And on that goth front, we do have news
that Mesa are going to be returning to the UK,
still on their you know campaign supporting their their latest album,
The Spin, which as it turned out in you know,
the end of year ten, and coverage with the audience
everything hurt be a very popular, very well, like the
album last year, which I was very glad to see.
So you're probably looking forward to the fact that there
is a you know, full European and UK A tour
coming up. They're gonna hit in the UK in November.
They're going to be playing Manchester, Nottingham, Glasgow, Bristol and London.
The Manchester date is like two days before Damnation Festival,
so it's going to be a rather good week, I think,
because I absolutely love that record and I very much
would love to see Mesa again headlining on It also
announced Sun are announcing a UK and European tour off
the back of their album that's coming out soon and
they are playing in Liverpool on the same night that
my Chemical Romance play at anfield. What do you reckon
the split? Is there of people who are divided between
m c R and Sun.
Speaker 3: I barelya's one member of MCR probably quite like I
would not be shocked, Frankie, Yeah, yeah, I would not
be shocked.
Speaker 1: Should put them on the same bill, Just put them on,
put them on for Echo and the Bunny Men.
Speaker 3: To the Sun would almost be on that mental post
of they wouldn't look out of plays just giving the
acclixes of the support. He's going like, yeah, that makes
sense if you know all of this. Devil Master and
water Parks are supporting my romance. Sun can as well.
Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine Son have ever played outdoors.
That's I think that is a step too far, But
there you go. Cohen and Cambria are going to be
on tour in the UK supporting Shindown in arenas. They
are going to be arriving. I mean they're going all
over bloody you know, the US and everywhere as well.
But they're going to be riding in the Europe and
the UK in the kind of mid portion of November
playing in London, Sam would Cohen and Cambria of all
bands tempt you to go to a show headlined by
your almighty nemesis shine Down.
Speaker 3: No, but I actually get to hear some good music,
Like I mean, Cohied are active enough that I like
the It's not like if it was a super rare
like coin if it was, if it was a FI,
if AFI was, I would go to a shin.
Speaker 2: I would do it. I would hate myself, but I
would do that.
Speaker 3: They are the band that would give me to a
Shiningdown show, Todd, because I've seen.
Speaker 2: Them a fair bit recently. I can. I can give
this on a pass. But as I said, nice for
Shine Down fans to actually hear some good music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you are in our audience and you are
both a Kohe fan and a shine Down fan, then
I hope you have a great night. Good for good
for you have fun everybody. Damnation Festival And this is
again also like came out today. We were reveling in
the AFI and news and some of these tour announcements
and stuff, and then the little Cherry on top Damnation
have added one band to their bill today. We ken Natchos,
who are the power violence band beloved throughout the kind
of early port of the twenty tens, broke up in
twenty sixteen. I went to one of their like final
two UK shows in twenty sixteen. I love this band.
They are one of my favorites of you know, that
that kind of era of like heavier leaning hardcore stuff
from that kind of time that I have a particular
love affair with the likes of Nails obviously and Trap
Them and Black Breath and all that kind of thing.
You know, we can Natchos that they're not they don't
sound like those bands exactly, but you know, the same
kind of time period when I was just covering all
of that stuff, and I love weekend NAT shows, so
I am. I was pleased to see when they, you know,
came back and played Maryland Deaths or wherever it was
a couple of years ago. This is their first UK
show since coming back. Great Bloody booking for particularly like
a hardcore band or a damnation bill weekend that shows
is I'm so happy with this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, because Daminations are kind of like
dabbled in the sort of like hardcore stuff, and this
I was like, yeah, have all the hard cobands that
damnation we can not just feel like right at home.
That almost great, And then on some like Outbrokes, I
would say almost now, but yeah, this is really cool
and it's kind of just like out of no because
I know they've kind of been doing sporadic.
Speaker 2: Kind of live appearances here and there.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm nicely mentioned in the UK.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I I like, I don't know
if I'll be a damnation this year, but if I am,
I will definitely like enjoy me some weekend nachos.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was floating on that AFI cloud and then
like an hour later had some weekend nat shows down
the top of it as well. I'm like, ah, this
is great, what a good day. We've all been having
a bad day. I suppose Behemoth in a lot of
hot water at the moment. Not as for their own
you know, silliness this time, but in Turkey and then
also in India for completely different you know reasons, different factions.
A lot of shows of Theirs being canceled due to
religious pressure in the kind of local areas still happens.
Look at this from a global metric, man, like this
stuff still genuinely ruffles feathers and still under targeted for
you know, censorship and cancelation and these kind of things.
So it's still you know, headlines that pop out and
you like, man, this shit's still happening. Misticum. I always
want to mention this. I this is like one of
my bands that are not that many people listening. I'm
sure are probably that into, but Mysticum are one of
the They're pretty much like the first word in industry
or black metal. They are a legendary bunch of maniacs
from the underground, and their live shows of the last
decade or so have become legendary for ridiculous techno production
and stuff like that. The most oppressive black metal rave
you can imagine. Unfortunately, I've never seen Misticum because they played,
you know, sporadically. They have unfortunately announced that they are
going to be disbanding once again. Their final farewell show
is going to be at Sarwin Festival in Belgium in April,
I believe, and that festival I was already looking at
it being like that's good because I had like Lampa
Murma and Dodds Rey and a bunch of cool black
metal bands on it. There's fucking last bunch of stuff
there to it. They've had like Triumph of Death doing
the Hellhammer stuff and Mistericum's farewell show. I am very
jealous of anyone who can fire their way over to
Belgium for that one. But mistericam one of the great eccentric, influential, innovative,
weird o bands of black metal in you know it's
heyday period of the mid nineties, and they will be
passing on from us. What's more after that show and
another farewell unfortunately also goes to Manchester Orchestra drummer Tim Erry,
who I think quite suddenly passed away this week. And
I know that Manster Orchestra are a like intensely beloved
band in their corners of our world, you know, within
the UK festival scene you look at someone like two
thousand Trees, and I know that Manster Orchestra have been
a you know, a beloved and prominent band on those
kind of lineups and those kind of regions. And yeah,
like really sad news that Tim Vary, their drummers so
suddenly passed away. So yeah, absolute respect and love to
the Manchester Orchestray Camp. Let's talk a little bit, I
suppose about what we have been up to again at
T and M Towers over the past week or so.
And this was I suppose a bigger week for us
because we dropped a special over on the That's the
Metal Patreon, our massive mega podcast that we do. The
biggest ones that we do are over on the Patreon
and this is the second part of our all in
retrospective look at the Rock Music of the Year nineteen
ninety seven. In January, we did a first part where
we looked more at the bigger end of metal. We
were talking obviously all the new metal that came out,
what the old guard of metal were doing in nine
and seven, all that stuff. This one, I think is
the biggest part of the lot really because we went
all in on everything really that you could throw under
the banner of alternative rock and punk, from the pop
punk of the time to we were talking about britpop
probably the most we will ever talk about britpop as
a particularly that moment of britpop nineteen ninety seven is
a fascinating to hear them it all the way through
to the proliferating underground movements at the time of post
rock and emo and these kind of things that were
coming out. Honestly, this show has been out for you know,
a bit over twenty four hours as we're recording this
right now. Most of the feedback has been people telling
me that the guy in Reef is just a farmer
and just sounds like that because it's a West Country
summerset accent, and like, I know that's a bit of it.
I grew up in the West Country. I detect obviously
that is some of it. But there's more tongue twisting
at play going on there. That's nuts. That's not just
a farm of voice. There's more to it than that.
But most of the feedback so far has been Reef
related or a related Let's be honest, like a rated
they're fuck they're teasing a new album as well, all
of them coming out while we're doing this.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Like the Reef thing, that's the one I didn't get.
Speaker 3: But when you mentioned that and I realized what song
that was, unlocking off that memory and be like, oh Jesus, Chris,
all of these bands, all of those britpop bands, and
they're one fucking song terrible. But you know, you've kind
of danced around it. The real joy of this special
was the scar Punk. What a time, the scar Park beautiful,
What a beautiful rundown of that, you know, like, okay,
computer whatever, scar Punk is where it's at, Like, but no,
these Nights specials, it's been fun to kind of delve
into some that was kind of like happening around little
five year old me being completely oblivious to all this
shit and kind of go like, oh, this is what
I was actually going in the world around me with music.
But yeah, been cooled to discover some things to kind
of like reappraise my appreciation. Some things are going to
work out. That song that I liked on feet for
ninety eight on fucking shit, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of those suppose we kind of coined this
special godspeed You, Mighty Boss tone because that is the
meeting of meeting of a sensations that was happening around
this point the time, and that is what we were
going all in on. You can find that at patren
com slash that's not met hopefully not quite as long
before we get into the final part of this. We
will hopefully be back for this in a couple of
weeks or so. Where we will be looking at the
underground metal and also just picking our own personal favorite
albums of nineteen ninety seven, looking over what the all
the publications and stuff we're doing as well, which there
are some funny lists that I've been looking at them already.
There are some funny lists that came from the magazine
world around, So we'll get into all of that stuff.
If you want to support us and hear these in depth, long,
fun pieces of content that we make, then that is
the place to do it. Let's end with the releases
for the twentieth of February twenty twenty six. We start
off with I suppose the big metal release of the week,
and it's nice that they have kind of worked their
way up I suppose to just being consistently now in
this position. Silosis their new album, their second since you know,
well actually their third, since really getting back on the horse,
isn't it. But their second is this particular sort of
you know, new look. I suppose guys of Silosis is
called appropriately the New Flesh, and that is out. We
also have all hands at the pop punk game, Newfound
Glory back with their like twenty ninth album or whatever
it might be called Listen Up, exclamation mark, newfound Glory
back for all the pop punk heads in the world
of hardcore. The release of the week really comes from
Killing Pace with an album called HCPM. I don't know
what that stands for hardcore punk mosh. I don't know,
I know where they're from, but hard.
Speaker 3: All I like, I said, this is just the hardest
album of the year so far, if you like and
you know that kind of vein of twin, says Hardgore.
We talking about what it was like Nails and we
can actually that kind of like just hard violent music
go on this Killing Page record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty pretty short, but that's in the heavy
hardcore record of the release. We move into underground metal
and there is the band called something along the lines
of cusra Irish writing here the Death Not a band
on Tinnaback Spend called Carving the Causeway to the Other World.
That's the name of that album. Then we also have
I Forget pare Off actually exhumed the Gore grind veterans
with This Time I'm Told, a concept album entirely about
road accidents and the ways that you can is that
you can violently die in car crashes, which is great
exhubed behavior, I think, and that will tell you why
the album is called Red Asphalt. And then into the
black metal world the Magus, which is the name of
a veteran black metal musician from the Greek black metal scene.
He has been bands like Necromantia. He has got an
album out called Demono Sophia. And then the album that
I found from the sort of you know, heavy metal,
thrash metal kind of world this week just jumped out
on me on name and cover alone as a band
called Lead Injector. Their album cover their album is called
Witching Attack, and the cover has a witch in like
like a big pointy witch hap but also like fish
nets and like just like full garb, and she is
she's got a shotgun and she's shooting a skeleton that's
climbing out of a grape in the head, so she's
injecting it with the lead There you go. It's all
it's the Witching Attack from the Lead Injector and all
of those things that represented on the album cover. So
I want to give that one my kudos for sure.
So that's what we got from the world of rock
and metal this week.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Everybody for listening. Hope you've enjoyed many of the announcement
that we have been again enjoying this week, from the
music to the live announcements, good stuff. What are you
most excited for? We will be back next week with
the end of February rundown of our actual, real big
deal albums that we want to get into on the reviews,
So we are going to be talking about that Silo
to Sound for example. We'll also be talking and giving
our take on the new album from Motherfucking Converge. There
is a lot from the world of extreme metal that's
big this month that's you know, got kind of turned
some heads, that will turn heads, so we're going to
weigh in on those. Some good stuff from the worlds
of alternative rock and punk as well. Pretty much everything
you can want really is going to be in next
month's with this next week's reviews bag, so we will
be back there for that. I hope you hope you
join us. And yeah, AFI everyone, they're here. They made it.