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Speaker 3: You gotta mountain inside your chats.
Speaker 4: It's been a while.
Speaker 1: Just wait and scrusted looks into the fog.
Speaker 3: Can clench your fists, strike as far, deny a mess.
Fee you earth beneath your souls.
Speaker 1: Swan deep.
Speaker 3: You're in patrol. We loud and let them here. Every
answers in your mirror. Step into the I love friends.
Speaker 2: Oh you got the power. Sometimes you just I don't know, Sheila.
Sometimes it feels like the you misuse the power, you
get your power, your current gets uh rerouted. That's going
to feel that right, It gets rerouted Like Sheila came
in yesterday and we lost power here for a while,
and we decided, all right.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and do this another day.
Speaker 2: And uh you and I had talked and I said,
how I used to kind of do these things to
get on a better feeling, get off on the right foot,
so to speak on your dad, And I haven't been
doing that for a while, and so today I did that,
and I was a little wobbly, but I was feeling
all right. And then I get a message from someone
and I didn't like the message. And the message was innocuous.
It was clear, just truly innocuous.
Speaker 1: What are you up to?
Speaker 2: What was kind of the gist of it, and and
it just was like, and I don't understand why that
would bring me back to a lower vibration and what
is happening? Because I always feel like we're in control
of ourselves. But then as I talk to you, you
talk about the energy that's here and how that affects things,
And I wonder, is that more of what some people
would say is life is always coming at your right
Life's always coming at you.
Speaker 1: You just have to be up higher.
Speaker 2: And so I'm curious as to your thoughts on the
energy that's around and what we need to do to
keep ourselves more on that high flying vibration.
Speaker 4: How do we navigate that? Yes, yeah, exactly, And That's
what we talked about yesterday about being an inside job.
Speaker 1: Right, a lot of people saying.
Speaker 4: Well, what the heck are you talking about? But it
is true that the frequencies out there affect everything about us.
Our thoughts, are feelings, you know, our discombobulation and you
know this morning I had a connection on Facebook. One
of the social media is about what I do. Should
all be free, and that's true. Energy is free, but
also it's part of our professional experiences and how we
help each other, just like what we talked about yesterday
about being in the field and how everybody affects us.
Everything affects us and why does it affect us?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: This energy is powerful and it also is very disruptive,
but it also can be very peaceful. And that's why
it's always the inside job, inside job to knowing what
to do and how to do it, and sometimes we
don't know, don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, it does feel like, you know, there's upstream downstream
where you can kind of flow with things or you're
fighting the current. And I know that, you know, as
it makes sense because if you put it more into
something that's tangible that people can understand, like all of
a sudden your TV's on the fritz, or write you
know something, your house gets hit by lightning and it
blows out all your electronics, right, because it's the surge
of energy exact that you didn't have protectors in there.
But if you had some kind of there's things you
can put in there, surge protectors, this sort of thing.
Why is that, Well, because sometimes there's surges and things,
so that would make sense since everything's energy, that there
would be energy like that in the world. And then
your job is to sort of put your search protectors
in there. Oh, absolutely right, And that would be things
like going inside, meditating, being quiet, taking a walk, being
in nature, giving yourself.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I used to hear artists say they would go on
the artists date. They would take themselves on the artist
date where they would just kind of go out and
do And I did that.
Speaker 1: Once or twice. I was married, so it wasn't very
popular to go by yourself at the time. But do
you know where were you? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was at some beautiful garden walking around looking at
all the beauty that they had, or I was at
the museum looking at artwork.
Speaker 1: Really by yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you know that wasn't very popular, but
I would say that that's a smart thing to do
because it connects you back to the source exactly.
Speaker 4: And you're going to use somebody, are you going to
really help them move on? It's all about you using
your power to be able to be the best you can.
And of course it is always about an inside job.
So what you can do is turn off all the
electric electrical stuff in your room. Like for me, I
turn off my WiFi and also I turn off my
WiFi completely off and it my modem is actually in
the next room and my head faces that room, all right,
So I have found that I have more RESTful sleep
when I turn the motem off completely. And also my phone,
I still have it on, but I have it away
from my bed. I have it like ten feet away, right,
so I have it connected to power so if I
need power, so I am connected with power, but I'm
not having the surging five G energy going through the
actual field where I'm sleeping trying to get rejuvenated. So
there's a lot of things you can do besides going inside.
There's things in the electrical field that affects your thoughts,
your behaviors, your responses and RESTful sleep is very, very
important for all of us. And because this energy is
changing so much, people have problems for their sleep patterns.
Absolutely absolutely, but that's one of the biggest keys as
far as really going with inside.
Speaker 2: It's so funny that you're bringing that up, and I'm
thinking in my head, what would happen if I turned
off the Wi Fi when I went to bed?
Speaker 1: What what happen? I? Well, nothing, nothing would happen. Probably not.
Speaker 4: Your phone still connects, sure, but I.
Speaker 2: Use my phone as my alarm more or less, right, Yeah,
but keep it ten feet away.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, it's just an it's an odd almost.
We have a dependency in a weird way to this.
And as you're talking, I'm thinking of I used to
have a pop up camper, probably.
Speaker 1: Twenty five years ago. I was a single guy at
a pop up camper.
Speaker 2: I would go camping and phones weren't really that big then,
this would be in the late nineties, and I.
Speaker 1: Would just go into such deep sleep like that. I
would sleep for hours in the woods.
Speaker 4: Your nature, your nature, so you're in the elements, right, Oh.
Speaker 1: God, And I'm feeling it now, like I go I
gotta go camping. Exactly that thought, Yeah, I gotta go camping.
I gotta get out of here for a while. Yeah, exactly,
like just just to sleep.
Speaker 4: Life is you know, is over very quickly. And what's important.
What's important, it's the small things that are important. It's
about the love and compassion that you give out to
everybody else, but it's first of all for yourself. That's
why we always talk about putting oxygen mask on first
on yourself, and then it resonates out with everybody else. Love, compassion, joy,
peace and energy, especially in mother Gaya when you're out camping.
I mean, that is the closest to nature.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, I miss that. Actually, I really like,
I really felt that.
Speaker 2: When you said it, I was like, oh man, I
gotta get the uh get out there and do it.
Speaker 1: I need to.
Speaker 4: And that's why a lot of people go on sabbatical
from the electrical stuff, turn off their phone.
Speaker 2: I'm going off yeah, off the grid, right, People say, yeah,
I'm going off the grid.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of sense to that.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting.
Speaker 2: And then what do you do, Like, as you're saying,
the subconscious and I know with your healing, you always
and I love the phrase issues and the tissues. But
when that's stuff comes up or is released, there's a
piece of us. Is there some part of us that
tries to hold on to it?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Because those belief systems they limit you.
That's what we always talk about, is about the programming
of early childhood. And then also in society. You know,
you gotta support your family, you gotta make money, you
got to do all this stuff. But it's more than that.
It's about your belief systems. Well that's a bunch of punk,
you know, I've heard that, But where is that imprinted
within your cellular structure? Where did you learn those things?
And usually it's from society, and it's about everything that's
going on. But now everything is changing. The world cannot
go back. However, if we look at it as evolving,
this is exactly what we're supposed to do. And that
is the quantum energy that's here. So I'm a quantum
energy healer. But I deal with a consciousness grid, in
other words, your consciousness thoughts and your behaviors, and how
does it apply to your life? How does it apply
to your physical body? All right, your spiritual body, the
things you think, and then also how you can actually
transmute that? In other words, how do you use that
in your life? How do you become a better person?
How can you help others?
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm Yeah, it's what I'm thinking right now.
Speaker 1: Right is I.
Speaker 2: Often think that we try to assert things on someone. Yeah,
and we often say right, and if you, if you
only acted different, I would feel better.
Speaker 4: That's called manipulation because the person doesn't know any different.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no one's trying to really do anything. But
sometimes though, when you feel like you need to guide
someone like a younger, well, for example, my son, right,
he lives with me, he's fifteen years old, how do
I guide him without being assertive? And you know, I've
had other people say to me, well, maybe you know,
it sounds like you're doing gentle parenting, and I'm like,
I'm not trying to do gentle parenting. I just believe
in my gut that that's he, that this this person came.
Speaker 1: Here for a reason, exactly why did you.
Speaker 2: And chose this family. Whether we believe that or not,
I do, And I love being around this person. They're
very much like me. We're very very much like you know.
And but there are concerns I have. There are things
I'm seeing that I go, oh, this isn't so good.
So it is good and I need to steer you.
And other adults are seeing things right, So there's lots
of influence right, school and this, counselors and and so
I'm like, how do I try to show you without
forcing you?
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And what keeps popping in mind and keeps saying,
it's all about being love. So when you show from
compassion and they can feel it, all right, they can
feel it. It's like listen, uh, you know, I'm doing
the best I can as a father, you know, and
I'm really worried about you. So let's talk about this.
How is this helping you? You know? And it's all
about love. It's about communication, how you communicate, and it's
really about you. First, there's that oxygen take again, oxygen
mask again, and it's it is. It's you have two choices,
love or fear. And a lot of times the fear
comes in from the programming. You know, we say, we
talk about the same things over and over again. But
it's really important to understand that love is the highest
vibration frequency that we have there, and our children did
pick us to learn that, But sometimes we don't have
those tools. We weren't taught those tools, we didn't have
directions as parents. So that's where the learning comes in,
the wisdom come in. We're learning all these things and
making different choices. That's exactly what my life has been
all about. Yeah, and fifty one years of being married
would have been married. We're together thirty two and together
thirty six before we got married. But the thing four
years before we got married. The thing is that it's
all part of why we're here. Why I chose that man,
why I chose to have the children. I'm very, very
grateful for it. Now I'm very grateful, but I had
to go through a lot of healing from it, and
the same with our children. You know, this is a
time of great development in evolution, about changing your new life.
You know what no longer serves you? Why aren't you happy?
Speaker 1: Why are you stuck?
Speaker 4: A lot of people say what do you mean by
being stuck? Shila? It's like, well, are you happy? Do
you feel joy?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: No, I'm angry.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like, well, yeah, I can relate to that one,
I'm angry because it's like, you won't do what I
want them to do. It's exactly right, and it's but
that's like, I'll wait a minute. Isn't it about free choice?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: I have free choice, you know. And then also the
younger years, I mean, they're going they're trying to struct
their stuff and find out who they are and they
don't want to be told or controlled. And we're the
same way, right. But once we become an adult, you know,
we no longer have our parents paying for everything and
we have to make a living.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 4: Then then our parents become smart. And that's why I say,
the older I become the wiser my parents are that
I remember, you know, it's it's interesting. It's learning that
what they were saying was right and that I need
to take a look at that. And then then you go, oh,
you know, it's like then you really get upset.
Speaker 2: But then there's also people. Then you start to have
like regrets and things. And I often think that you
need we shouldn't. We shouldn't because if you didn't have
the contrast, you wouldn't know. So the contrast is all
part of it, and it helps you understand things, and
that I think when you're no longer in physical form,
you are resistant free, but you could be here. You know,
you put the resistance in there, and then the fear
and the you know this person doesn't like, well, it's
all made up in your head.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and so you know, I think I shared on
another time we were together about the podcast I did
about my brother Bob. He died in nineteen twenty nineteen.
And it's the title is It's all about love. It's
exactly what it's all about, is that we all learn
behaviors and we play a role. We have a persona
in this lifetime, but once we cross over, it's all
about love and then we understand. And I've shared that
I am the only one left out of my family members,
right you know, there was ten of us all together,
eight kids and parents, and every single one of them
I've been able to communicate with. It is all about
love and I'm very grateful for it. And just like
the people in my life now, right you know, and
it's like it's wisdom and it's tapping into that wisdom.
It's like that no longer serves me. This is really
about law. This is what i'm sharing.
Speaker 2: You'll hear people get very angry about the This is
a generation where everybody got a trophy and this is
a right, just a participation trophy. Everybody got that, And
I'm like, yes, but what they what the purpose was
was to try to build some self esteem. You were
part of something greater than yourself, and we'd like you
to continue to.
Speaker 1: Do that throughout life because you will feel.
Speaker 2: Good when you do that, no matter what it is,
whether it's sports or volunteering or something. When you're part
of something that's bigger than yourself, you just feel like
you're needed and you're you're giving right back. And but
I think, like you know this old school thinking of
well you can't there was a purpose behind it.
Speaker 1: But you're right.
Speaker 2: The self esteem shouldn't come from the trophy. It should
come from within exactly.
Speaker 4: It's just like, why are you on a team. It's
everybody on the team you work together, Yes, but when
you have a star player, yeah, people say, well what
about whom It is like, No, it's it's you're all
you take turns. Who's a star player. But also you're
a big team that works together to complete a.
Speaker 2: Task exactly, and you're going to work individually on your
skills to be part of that team and and those things,
and when you when.
Speaker 4: You fail, when you fail, yes, it's.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's kind of an important thing
to learn.
Speaker 1: But when you start to feel like.
Speaker 2: Somebody said something about I wasn't as good as I
was the last game or whatever, and that hurts, but
you gotta how do you get you know, reminds me
of go inside and find whatever that was and bring
that back out because what they say doesn't mean anything.
What you feel and how you react to it.
Speaker 1: Means everything exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's that's a hard concept to teach. I guess
that's where I think things like that's why I try
to you know, let's go to the gym so you
can see the improvement. And let just for example, lifting
weights this week, we lifted this. Oh my gosh, we're
up five pounds. That feels good. That feels I'm getting stronger,
I'm moving forward. I feel good about myself. And I
think that that's a really important thing. And you know,
that's where the saying is often like we can do
hard things, right. I hear that a lot, and I'll say, yeah,
I don't like the grind word and all that. You
got to do it, but try to find a word
that is less ugly, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, I got to grind it out.
We're grinding today.
Speaker 2: If you all right, if that's a word that makes
you feel happy, that you're going to do that. But
most people aren't, and they say it but grudgingly, So
I would try to find some other way to say it.
But it's all those things. Yeah, when you grind, when
you run three miles and you didn't feel like it,
and you did, and you're at the end of it
and you go, oh, I did it right, that's a
real self esteem thing, And now everything else in your
day just seems to go easier.
Speaker 1: Put you just put yourself on a higher frequency. You did.
Speaker 4: Isn't it true that that's why? And because you've experienced that,
then you can share that with somebody else. Yes, that's
the love giving back and forth. Okay, that's that we're
not alone, right, we do this together. Yes, we're all
part of the oneness.
Speaker 2: Well that yeah, I mean, look, Harvard's been doing the
Happiness Study since nineteen thirty eight, and on longevity and everything,
and the one thing that they're seeing is it's human.
Speaker 4: Connection, absolutely, and it's love, and it's love us love.
Speaker 2: I mean, when it really comes down to it, it's love.
It's you know, it's human connection. Well, why we can
say human connection, Yeah, but I hate being around that
guy asshole, but it's not. It's about being around people
you like and doing things and laughing and just and
that's all on a higher frequency of love.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But why is it you don't like that person as
an asshole because they triggered something in you.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's a you things.
Speaker 2: That's a youth thing, right, And I say very rarely
I practice, but I say, you know, sometimes we have
to go to the family reunion. We're going to see
that asshole whatever you know, relative who doesn't agree with
me on X, Y or Z. And I always think, well,
if you make the choice to go, then line up
with that, meaning that I'm all in, and then start
to think of all the positive qualities about the person,
maybe even write them down, and you'll get more of that.
If you focus on that, then you will the other side.
And then you leave and you go, I guess Bob's
not an asshole, And then you run into your system
and go. Bob's really an asshole. I can't believe what
he said to me, you know what I mean, But
you can. And it's really all. You have all the power.
That's that's the thing that I truly believe. And yet
sometimes maybe I don't because I feel like, you know,
it's like you just want to like collapse and just
go fuh. But I think you have all the power.
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 2: Buddha gan No, not Gandhi, but Mohammed Jesus, it was
all the same message and trying to say to you
you have it within you.
Speaker 1: You are us, we are you.
Speaker 2: It is the idea that all is one. You have it,
so go just be, just be, just be. And you know,
even the Beatles said let it be, you know what
I mean. I sometimes think I'll listen to their lyrics now,
and I guess I don't know why my parents weren't
so much into music, but being in that woodstocky hippie
area where I grew up, yeah, you know what I mean,
Like I heard all the music and things and like
the Grateful Dead and all that, and now I'll hear
the lyrics. I go, oh, there was a message there
that we weren't you know, you know Mother Mary's has.
Speaker 1: Let it be, Let it be, Let it be. It's okay.
Now you're not getting anything wrong, and you never get
anything done.
Speaker 2: So why are we sweating. You're eternal, right, You're eternal.
You're never going to get it all done whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, but we get caught up in the day
to day is shit. It industin.
Speaker 4: We do, we do, we do, but we forget what's important.
Speaker 2: Yes, So how do we remind ourselves of that? By
going within?
Speaker 4: Going within? Going within? And also when you hear a
message over and over again and you ignore it and
then all of a sudden you're at the right part
of your life to actually hear it enlightenment time or
the wakening time or it's like I can't do this anymore. Help, right,
And so that's when you look for the signs. That's
whe the serendipity comes in. The signs is Okay, I
heard this person once and it sounds good, all right,
so I'm going to actually connect with that person finally.
But it isn't until you get to the very bottom,
you know, And that's what like recovery program uses. You know,
the step work. First, you admit you're powerless, right, you
need help, and that's very very good. And then it's
how do you use that in your life? How do
you actually make amends but really mean it? And it's
about you healing yourself first, going within first, and then
using it beyond.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things.
Speaker 2: As you're saying that, healing yourself first, there's so many things.
Speaker 4: That we waking up yourself.
Speaker 2: No, right, okay, but let's say there's things that a
lot of us carry around an anger, right, yeah, issues
and anger, and how do you get over something that
was the word would be somewhat traumatic, life altering, whatever
it is, And how do you sort of reconcile because
I don't I'm not a This sounds really ridiculous, but
I know there's no such things really forgiveness. I understand
what people are saying, but it would be about love
and just letting it go and focusing on this moment.
This moment isn't that moment that we had back there
or whatever happened. But a lot of times it's so
you know, you're just angry and you hold on to that,
and that prevents you from moving forward. It prevents you
from from going and so there's got to be a
way to it, to let it go.
Speaker 1: And I think for.
Speaker 2: A lot of people it's very very hard to do that,
even if you go within right, But there's got to
be a way.
Speaker 4: This is the time, this is the way. And that's
what I like. The science about it is that the
energy is this is the time, and it's been going
on for a long time. It's been going on for
a real long time, and now this is the time
that people are waking up. That's why it's called the
shift of the paradigm, consciousness, shift of the energy, the
feeling that's going on. You You can do all the work,
you really can, but it's the reasons why you do
the work. Now, there's are you doing it for somebody
else to get something the agenda or the narrative, or
are you really going with inside and hitting your bottom
and saying I need help. That's the divinity part about it,
the divinest part about it. It has to be your
own awakening. And also when you talked about all those things,
that's exactly what integrated energy therapy is about. It's a
whack them mole effect. You feel guilty, or you feel
angry or you feel resentment, and the forgiveness is in
all those different areas. It's about yourself first. That's why
it's the inside job, healing your self first so that
it makes a difference on the outside in your life changes.
Your life changes.
Speaker 1: It's right, your life changes. Life changes, Yes, it.
Speaker 4: Is if you choose. I see your mind going.
Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of here's the thing is, like, I
know exactly. I'll just make this very personal because I
don't know how else well you have to, but I
know exactly the things I need to do to feel
my best and to be my best, and.
Speaker 1: Yet I don't do them, and I don't understand why.
Speaker 4: That's the insecurities, that's the unworthiness or things that you
feel inside this locked within the cellular structure. Now, when
we talk about energy, we're going to go back to
past lives, all right. So a lot of times we
talk about this before, a lot of people don't believe
in it. But I believe in it, and I do
know that I have dejuvous right, whether it is past
lives or whether it's something that you've seen that was
going to happen in the future and it came through
and it blew your mind. But it's really about what
you learned from all those past lives. And a lot
of times when you start to waken up, your cellular
memory is remembering the bad things that happened. I was like, oh,
I can't do that. I can't get in touch with
that feeling or what is really coming through because you
know what's going to happen. It didn't turn out very
good past lives, so you're gonna stay stuck, and that's
exactly where they want you. But going with inside helps
you unravel those negative energy loops of distortion. Distortion is
the negative things that you used to survive. You survived
in those lifetimes. Oh okay, and that's okay, that's okay.
But this is a different time of humanity. We are evolving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what is that almost resistance?
Speaker 1: Like you just got that's the.
Speaker 4: Fear, Yeah, that's the fear. It was like, if I
don't do this, I'm gonna I won't won't be able
to live, just like when I got into recovery. Right
when I was in rehab, I put myself into recovery.
It's only one out of twelve and and a lot
of them resist, resists resist, and I counselor said to me, Shila,
what are you feeling? What are you feeling? They kept
after me and I said, you know, I didn't dare
say what feeling them Finally I blurted out, I don't
know what the f I was feeling. It didn't but
it was the fear that if I started crying, I
would never stop because the pain was so deep inside.
It was the pain from all the years before, you know,
when my father died, and feeling alone but not being
accepted and not feeling loved in all the childhood stuff.
But it also was the fear of all the other
lifetimes that I've experienced, the pain that was coming through.
And so that's why a lot of recovery work is
about the spiritual connection that you have to totally let
go and that God as they say, oh, that God, yeah,
whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But they say it, but and I think it's it's
a T shirt. You know what I'm saying. It's a
T shirt. It's a saying on a T shirt.
Speaker 2: It's a bumper sticker, And people go like, oh my God,
but have you It's hard to do that because you want,
you feel like you have to control this or hold
it tight, and all it's doing is holding back exactly and.
Speaker 1: That and you're not seeing that.
Speaker 2: And for my for my personal thing, like I know,
I should probably get up at five o'clock in the
morning and go for a walk and do a stretching
and meditate and write.
Speaker 1: And I always feel better when I do that. But
I'm tired, okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: So and and I know the person I want to be, right,
But then I go, but that guy's boring, you know
what I mean, Like, I go, that guy's boring. Wouldn't
you rather go out Friday night, get a little buzz
on and just have a good laugh. But that's but
then you get but then the next day you don't
feel as good, and then you're behind, and so everything's
like piling up, piling up, piling up, and then you're just.
Speaker 1: Like ah, and you right, and so you've.
Speaker 2: Had the control all along to do it, but you
look at it wrong. And I don't know how else
to look at it, because I go, I know what
I want to be, I know where I want to be,
I know exactly what I want to do with all
this stuff, but I can't seem to get out of
my own way.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the thought process, you just put it out there.
I can't seem to get out of my own way.
You purposely or didn't know that, but subconsciously you put
it out there. You can't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, your thoughts, yes.
Speaker 4: All right, that's where the shoulda woodis and kudubs come in.
When when I say shift into the positive thinking, that's
where the energy comes in. Your thoughts actually promotes what
you're going to feel on the outside and also on
the inside right, and your actions. So if you project
I'm going to have a great day today, it's going
to be wonderful and I'm going to accomplish all these
things and I'm just so glad, thank you for allowing
me to do this. You put it out there, all right,
and you will see the difference in the changes. Just
like turn off the electrical stuff at night. You see
the changes in your sleep cycles. You will see the
changes in humanity. You will see the changes and the
people that you connect with and say, ah, now I
get it. I learned that lesson. All right, now I
can put my thought in. It's about conversation, right, you know,
and we know when a person is being sincere because
you can feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you an example. I had two parties
to go to last night, and either one of them,
one more than the other, could have turned into the
proverbial shit show.
Speaker 1: Of course, right, And I.
Speaker 2: Could have really let myself go and probably wound up
in a situation that I would not have been comfortable with.
And I have a lot going on with my son,
and I made him come with me, and he was
not happy.
Speaker 1: Oh I bet, And he stood there.
Speaker 2: And we stayed, and he was making fun of people
to me right, poking fun at the other people, and
I was laughing hysterically, and he started to loosen up.
And then he went out and two kids who are
probably like nine or ten years old, he's fifteen and
six foot one, wanted to play him in basketball two
on one and he's in dress shoes and he loved it.
He had a great time, and some girl there he
got her number or something, and we left and I
needed to go to another party that was for a
friend was having, but this one was at a bar,
so he couldn't come with me. And he said to me,
he goes, I wish you could go back. I had
a good time, and I was like, yeah, And then
I went to this other place. My other son was there.
I didn't drink a lot and I left and on
my way home, I was like, that was a great
night without being stupid, without being stupid, And I'm like,
that's how I want to live. This is what I want.
I want to be able to do these things but
not lose myself. But I have this thing where I
don't know what it is. I like drinking and once
I start going, well, that's like, yeah, but I but
I but I don't like drinking like that anymore.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Like I like the social aspect of it, but I'd
almost like to have a placebo in my hand, if
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like everybody thinks it's a drink by today, Well.
Speaker 4: When I go to parties, I don't get invited to
too many because most of them are drinking parties. And
they say, you don't drink, but that's their judgment interpretation
of what a party is going to be. All you
have to drink. It's like, there's so many sober people
that have a great time. When I got sober back
in ninety three and when I went the first convention,
to see people dancing and laughing. It's like, holy shit,
what have I been missing? Because it's being authentic, it's
being real. You're not putting a show on. You're not
getting a courage out of the bottles, right thing, You're
actually being who you are and people want to be
around you. It's not what it's it's like choices again,
what do you want to do? What do you don't
want to do? You know? And and it's and it's
great because I love going to parties and when people,
you know, reals I'm not drinking, I don't have to
show that I'm not drinking. I just have a drink
in my hand. Who says if this has to be alcohol?
And that the thing is it's a conversation. It is
the fun that you have there, and you can have
it without the booze. But we are so conditioned that
you have to have a party. We'll bring your own
booze type of thing. You know. It's like, well, bring
your own food.
Speaker 1: Is that a booze?
Speaker 4: Bring your own food? Or bring bring your cards, or
let's get together, bring your conversation, you know. And that's
what I like to do, is like how can I
you know, how can I have fun? Just be myself.
I'm more than just you know this meat suit as
they say, you know, I'm more than just you know,
my persona or what are my my title or whatever?
A person, a person who loves life, you know, and
and we are all in this together.
Speaker 2: I think that's a great note to kind of wrap
it up on. I will say this, if you you
need to go see Sheila and do the healing, because
I think it is life changing. And I often wonder
if you told me, oh, there's gonna be ups and
downs after this to have to I was like, yeah right, Hieler.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, Well what I like to teach is about
with this energy medicine that we have, and when I
teach my classes integrate energy therapy, and I also I
am teaching Udi Field healing now, which I'm a teacher
for that, which is the higher above I e T.
It's all about your own changes, and it's about you
first of all, understanding what's placked, What are all those issues?
What are the fears? Why do I do the things
over and over again expecting different results? That's insanity. So
once you unlock that, it opens up a whole new
door and yes, it's going to be up and down,
up and down. It's the same with the kid when
they start to walk, you know, up and down, up
and down. It's all new territory for all of us.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: But I love making the connection. And it's like I'm
just a conduit. You're the one that's doing the work,
right I am. Yes, I am the teacher, I am
the helper kind of it. But also I give so
much credit to all the people that mentored me, that
help me, and we do this together.
Speaker 1: Yes, we do this together. Uh.
Speaker 2: Go to Shila tillic dot com and you can find
your own session.
Speaker 1: You can learn more.
Speaker 2: Maybe take a class, take a class and learn. Sheila
always fun, always needed, like you reach out at the
right time, you know.
Speaker 1: I always need it and I do appreciate it. I
like the bill lightman.
Speaker 2: I still haven't made it its own thing, but I
think that's coming a little faster. I told you about
the university that's putting healing in alternative healing, and so
I think something with that I'll comp But I like
this and thank you for your time this morning.
Speaker 3: All right, answersan you step into the I love friend