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That's going 57 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:18,879 to feel that right, It gets rerouted Like Sheila came 58 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:22,960 in yesterday and we lost power here for a while, 59 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:24,479 and we decided, all right. 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: We'll come back and do this another day. 61 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:30,479 Speaker 2: And uh you and I had talked and I said, 62 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,879 how I used to kind of do these things to 63 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,879 get on a better feeling, get off on the right foot, 64 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:39,080 so to speak on your dad, And I haven't been 65 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:43,560 doing that for a while, and so today I did that, 66 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,719 and I was a little wobbly, but I was feeling 67 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:49,240 all right. And then I get a message from someone 68 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:53,840 and I didn't like the message. And the message was innocuous. 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,280 It was clear, just truly innocuous. 70 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: What are you up to? 71 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:00,199 Speaker 2: What was kind of the gist of it, and and 72 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:05,680 it just was like, and I don't understand why that 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,159 would bring me back to a lower vibration and what 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,680 is happening? Because I always feel like we're in control 75 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,439 of ourselves. But then as I talk to you, you 76 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,319 talk about the energy that's here and how that affects things, 77 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,920 And I wonder, is that more of what some people 78 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:28,279 would say is life is always coming at your right 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,879 Life's always coming at you. 80 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: You just have to be up higher. 81 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,439 Speaker 2: And so I'm curious as to your thoughts on the 82 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,439 energy that's around and what we need to do to 83 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:43,199 keep ourselves more on that high flying vibration. 84 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: How do we navigate that? Yes, yeah, exactly, And That's 85 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,439 what we talked about yesterday about being an inside job. 86 00:04:49,639 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Right, a lot of people saying. 87 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:52,959 Speaker 4: Well, what the heck are you talking about? But it 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,519 is true that the frequencies out there affect everything about us. 89 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,879 Our thoughts, are feelings, you know, our discombobulation and you 90 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,920 know this morning I had a connection on Facebook. One 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,040 of the social media is about what I do. Should 92 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,560 all be free, and that's true. Energy is free, but 93 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,160 also it's part of our professional experiences and how we 94 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:22,279 help each other, just like what we talked about yesterday 95 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:25,839 about being in the field and how everybody affects us. 96 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:28,399 Everything affects us and why does it affect us? 97 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Now? 98 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:35,079 Speaker 4: This energy is powerful and it also is very disruptive, 99 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:38,240 but it also can be very peaceful. And that's why 100 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,879 it's always the inside job, inside job to knowing what 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,399 to do and how to do it, and sometimes we 102 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:49,560 don't know, don't know. 103 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,079 Speaker 2: Well, it does feel like, you know, there's upstream downstream 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,360 where you can kind of flow with things or you're 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,759 fighting the current. And I know that, you know, as 106 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,519 it makes sense because if you put it more into 107 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,600 something that's tangible that people can understand, like all of 108 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:06,639 a sudden your TV's on the fritz, or write you 109 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:09,600 know something, your house gets hit by lightning and it 110 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,759 blows out all your electronics, right, because it's the surge 111 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,079 of energy exact that you didn't have protectors in there. 112 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:20,199 But if you had some kind of there's things you 113 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:22,519 can put in there, surge protectors, this sort of thing. 114 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:25,639 Why is that, Well, because sometimes there's surges and things, 115 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:28,759 so that would make sense since everything's energy, that there 116 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:32,680 would be energy like that in the world. And then 117 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,439 your job is to sort of put your search protectors 118 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:39,279 in there. Oh, absolutely right, And that would be things 119 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,800 like going inside, meditating, being quiet, taking a walk, being 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,240 in nature, giving yourself. 121 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:46,319 Speaker 1: You know. 122 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: I used to hear artists say they would go on 123 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,600 the artists date. They would take themselves on the artist 124 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:54,079 date where they would just kind of go out and 125 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:55,240 do And I did that. 126 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: Once or twice. I was married, so it wasn't very 127 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:01,319 popular to go by yourself at the time. But do 128 00:07:01,399 --> 00:07:04,360 you know where were you? I don't know. 129 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:06,879 Speaker 2: I was at some beautiful garden walking around looking at 130 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:08,839 all the beauty that they had, or I was at 131 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:10,720 the museum looking at artwork. 132 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Really by yourself. 133 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you know that wasn't very popular, but 134 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:18,120 I would say that that's a smart thing to do 135 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:22,399 because it connects you back to the source exactly. 136 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: And you're going to use somebody, are you going to 137 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:28,000 really help them move on? It's all about you using 138 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,720 your power to be able to be the best you can. 139 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,879 And of course it is always about an inside job. 140 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:36,800 So what you can do is turn off all the 141 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,519 electric electrical stuff in your room. Like for me, I 142 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,040 turn off my WiFi and also I turn off my 143 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,600 WiFi completely off and it my modem is actually in 144 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:52,920 the next room and my head faces that room, all right, 145 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,800 So I have found that I have more RESTful sleep 146 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:01,040 when I turn the motem off completely. And also my phone, 147 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:03,839 I still have it on, but I have it away 148 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:06,319 from my bed. I have it like ten feet away, right, 149 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,600 so I have it connected to power so if I 150 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:11,800 need power, so I am connected with power, but I'm 151 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:18,040 not having the surging five G energy going through the 152 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:21,319 actual field where I'm sleeping trying to get rejuvenated. So 153 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,879 there's a lot of things you can do besides going inside. 154 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:28,439 There's things in the electrical field that affects your thoughts, 155 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:34,120 your behaviors, your responses and RESTful sleep is very, very 156 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:38,000 important for all of us. And because this energy is 157 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,200 changing so much, people have problems for their sleep patterns. 158 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,159 Absolutely absolutely, but that's one of the biggest keys as 159 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,639 far as really going with inside. 160 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:50,519 Speaker 2: It's so funny that you're bringing that up, and I'm 161 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,320 thinking in my head, what would happen if I turned 162 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,120 off the Wi Fi when I went to bed? 163 00:08:56,279 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: What what happen? I? Well, nothing, nothing would happen. Probably not. 164 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,279 Speaker 4: Your phone still connects, sure, but I. 165 00:09:03,639 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: Use my phone as my alarm more or less, right, Yeah, 166 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:08,360 but keep it ten feet away. 167 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: That's fine. 168 00:09:08,759 --> 00:09:12,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, it's just an it's an odd almost. 169 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:17,120 We have a dependency in a weird way to this. 170 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,759 And as you're talking, I'm thinking of I used to 171 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,360 have a pop up camper, probably. 172 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,799 Speaker 1: Twenty five years ago. I was a single guy at 173 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:27,559 a pop up camper. 174 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: I would go camping and phones weren't really that big then, 175 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,120 this would be in the late nineties, and I. 176 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: Would just go into such deep sleep like that. I 177 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,919 would sleep for hours in the woods. 178 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 4: Your nature, your nature, so you're in the elements, right, Oh. 179 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: God, And I'm feeling it now, like I go I 180 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:51,960 gotta go camping. Exactly that thought, Yeah, I gotta go camping. 181 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,279 I gotta get out of here for a while. Yeah, exactly, 182 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,039 like just just to sleep. 183 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: Life is you know, is over very quickly. And what's important. 184 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,600 What's important, it's the small things that are important. It's 185 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:07,840 about the love and compassion that you give out to 186 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,919 everybody else, but it's first of all for yourself. That's 187 00:10:10,919 --> 00:10:13,919 why we always talk about putting oxygen mask on first 188 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:19,559 on yourself, and then it resonates out with everybody else. Love, compassion, joy, 189 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,320 peace and energy, especially in mother Gaya when you're out camping. 190 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,279 I mean, that is the closest to nature. 191 00:10:27,399 --> 00:10:31,519 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, I miss that. Actually, I really like, 192 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,600 I really felt that. 193 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: When you said it, I was like, oh man, I 194 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:37,720 gotta get the uh get out there and do it. 195 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: I need to. 196 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 4: And that's why a lot of people go on sabbatical 197 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:42,559 from the electrical stuff, turn off their phone. 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,879 Speaker 2: I'm going off yeah, off the grid, right, People say, yeah, 199 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:46,759 I'm going off the grid. 200 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of sense to that. 201 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: It's very interesting. 202 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: And then what do you do, Like, as you're saying, 203 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,759 the subconscious and I know with your healing, you always 204 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:59,320 and I love the phrase issues and the tissues. But 205 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:04,960 when that's stuff comes up or is released, there's a 206 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,720 piece of us. Is there some part of us that 207 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:08,960 tries to hold on to it? 208 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,799 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Because those belief systems they limit you. 209 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,120 That's what we always talk about, is about the programming 210 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:21,480 of early childhood. And then also in society. You know, 211 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:23,960 you gotta support your family, you gotta make money, you 212 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,840 got to do all this stuff. But it's more than that. 213 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,879 It's about your belief systems. Well that's a bunch of punk, 214 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,399 you know, I've heard that, But where is that imprinted 215 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,360 within your cellular structure? Where did you learn those things? 216 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,679 And usually it's from society, and it's about everything that's 217 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,240 going on. But now everything is changing. The world cannot 218 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:47,759 go back. However, if we look at it as evolving, 219 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:51,559 this is exactly what we're supposed to do. And that 220 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:54,480 is the quantum energy that's here. So I'm a quantum 221 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,000 energy healer. But I deal with a consciousness grid, in 222 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:03,080 other words, your consciousness thoughts and your behaviors, and how 223 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,519 does it apply to your life? How does it apply 224 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,919 to your physical body? All right, your spiritual body, the 225 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:14,240 things you think, and then also how you can actually 226 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,440 transmute that? In other words, how do you use that 227 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,759 in your life? How do you become a better person? 228 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:21,840 How can you help others? 229 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,639 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm Yeah, it's what I'm thinking right now. 230 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: Right is I. 231 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: Often think that we try to assert things on someone. Yeah, 232 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,120 and we often say right, and if you, if you 233 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,799 only acted different, I would feel better. 234 00:12:38,919 --> 00:12:45,279 Speaker 4: That's called manipulation because the person doesn't know any different. 235 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: Well, and it's. 236 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no one's trying to really do anything. But 237 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,200 sometimes though, when you feel like you need to guide 238 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,600 someone like a younger, well, for example, my son, right, 239 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:02,000 he lives with me, he's fifteen years old, how do 240 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,559 I guide him without being assertive? And you know, I've 241 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,279 had other people say to me, well, maybe you know, 242 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:11,600 it sounds like you're doing gentle parenting, and I'm like, 243 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,200 I'm not trying to do gentle parenting. I just believe 244 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:21,720 in my gut that that's he, that this this person came. 245 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Here for a reason, exactly why did you. 246 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,879 Speaker 2: And chose this family. Whether we believe that or not, 247 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:31,600 I do, And I love being around this person. They're 248 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,000 very much like me. We're very very much like you know. 249 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,600 And but there are concerns I have. There are things 250 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:40,480 I'm seeing that I go, oh, this isn't so good. 251 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:42,360 So it is good and I need to steer you. 252 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,720 And other adults are seeing things right, So there's lots 253 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:49,279 of influence right, school and this, counselors and and so 254 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:55,399 I'm like, how do I try to show you without 255 00:13:55,639 --> 00:13:56,240 forcing you? 256 00:13:57,159 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 257 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,759 Speaker 4: Yeah? And what keeps popping in mind and keeps saying, 258 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,200 it's all about being love. So when you show from 259 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,759 compassion and they can feel it, all right, they can 260 00:14:08,799 --> 00:14:11,440 feel it. It's like listen, uh, you know, I'm doing 261 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,600 the best I can as a father, you know, and 262 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:17,039 I'm really worried about you. So let's talk about this. 263 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,879 How is this helping you? You know? And it's all 264 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:24,399 about love. It's about communication, how you communicate, and it's 265 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:28,279 really about you. First, there's that oxygen take again, oxygen 266 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:31,879 mask again, and it's it is. It's you have two choices, 267 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,759 love or fear. And a lot of times the fear 268 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:37,960 comes in from the programming. You know, we say, we 269 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,759 talk about the same things over and over again. But 270 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:43,919 it's really important to understand that love is the highest 271 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:48,399 vibration frequency that we have there, and our children did 272 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,559 pick us to learn that, But sometimes we don't have 273 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:54,240 those tools. We weren't taught those tools, we didn't have 274 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:57,799 directions as parents. So that's where the learning comes in, 275 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,080 the wisdom come in. We're learning all these things and 276 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,279 making different choices. That's exactly what my life has been 277 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:09,000 all about. Yeah, and fifty one years of being married 278 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,279 would have been married. We're together thirty two and together 279 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,200 thirty six before we got married. But the thing four 280 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:17,519 years before we got married. The thing is that it's 281 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:22,600 all part of why we're here. Why I chose that man, 282 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,600 why I chose to have the children. I'm very, very 283 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:27,440 grateful for it. Now I'm very grateful, but I had 284 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,600 to go through a lot of healing from it, and 285 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:32,759 the same with our children. You know, this is a 286 00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:38,519 time of great development in evolution, about changing your new life. 287 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:41,519 You know what no longer serves you? Why aren't you happy? 288 00:15:42,159 --> 00:15:43,039 Speaker 1: Why are you stuck? 289 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,399 Speaker 4: A lot of people say what do you mean by 290 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,919 being stuck? Shila? It's like, well, are you happy? Do 291 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,679 you feel joy? 292 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Well? 293 00:15:49,039 --> 00:15:49,919 Speaker 4: No, I'm angry. 294 00:15:49,919 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: You know. 295 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:53,279 Speaker 4: It's like, well, yeah, I can relate to that one, 296 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,159 I'm angry because it's like, you won't do what I 297 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,200 want them to do. It's exactly right, and it's but 298 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,519 that's like, I'll wait a minute. Isn't it about free choice? 299 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: You know? 300 00:16:01,799 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: I have free choice, you know. And then also the 301 00:16:05,039 --> 00:16:07,960 younger years, I mean, they're going they're trying to struct 302 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,120 their stuff and find out who they are and they 303 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,399 don't want to be told or controlled. And we're the 304 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,000 same way, right. But once we become an adult, you know, 305 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,559 we no longer have our parents paying for everything and 306 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,440 we have to make a living. 307 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:20,559 Speaker 1: Ah. 308 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: Then then our parents become smart. And that's why I say, 309 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:29,440 the older I become the wiser my parents are that 310 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:33,639 I remember, you know, it's it's interesting. It's learning that 311 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:36,240 what they were saying was right and that I need 312 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:38,879 to take a look at that. And then then you go, oh, 313 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,559 you know, it's like then you really get upset. 314 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:44,519 Speaker 2: But then there's also people. Then you start to have 315 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,720 like regrets and things. And I often think that you 316 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,840 need we shouldn't. We shouldn't because if you didn't have 317 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:55,720 the contrast, you wouldn't know. So the contrast is all 318 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:00,399 part of it, and it helps you understand things, and 319 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,840 that I think when you're no longer in physical form, 320 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,200 you are resistant free, but you could be here. You know, 321 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:12,119 you put the resistance in there, and then the fear 322 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,119 and the you know this person doesn't like, well, it's 323 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,400 all made up in your head. 324 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: Exactly, and so you know, I think I shared on 325 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:22,960 another time we were together about the podcast I did 326 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,039 about my brother Bob. He died in nineteen twenty nineteen. 327 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,720 And it's the title is It's all about love. It's 328 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:32,759 exactly what it's all about, is that we all learn 329 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,680 behaviors and we play a role. We have a persona 330 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,559 in this lifetime, but once we cross over, it's all 331 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:42,880 about love and then we understand. And I've shared that 332 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,000 I am the only one left out of my family members, 333 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,599 right you know, there was ten of us all together, 334 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,319 eight kids and parents, and every single one of them 335 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:51,839 I've been able to communicate with. It is all about 336 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,599 love and I'm very grateful for it. And just like 337 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,319 the people in my life now, right you know, and 338 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,440 it's like it's wisdom and it's tapping into that wisdom. 339 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:04,880 It's like that no longer serves me. This is really 340 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,559 about law. This is what i'm sharing. 341 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,519 Speaker 2: You'll hear people get very angry about the This is 342 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:13,720 a generation where everybody got a trophy and this is 343 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:17,640 a right, just a participation trophy. Everybody got that, And 344 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,680 I'm like, yes, but what they what the purpose was 345 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,319 was to try to build some self esteem. You were 346 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,119 part of something greater than yourself, and we'd like you 347 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:26,920 to continue to. 348 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,799 Speaker 1: Do that throughout life because you will feel. 349 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: Good when you do that, no matter what it is, 350 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,119 whether it's sports or volunteering or something. When you're part 351 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,319 of something that's bigger than yourself, you just feel like 352 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,400 you're needed and you're you're giving right back. And but 353 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:44,519 I think, like you know this old school thinking of 354 00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:48,359 well you can't there was a purpose behind it. 355 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,279 Speaker 1: But you're right. 356 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: The self esteem shouldn't come from the trophy. It should 357 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,559 come from within exactly. 358 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,319 Speaker 4: It's just like, why are you on a team. It's 359 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,799 everybody on the team you work together, Yes, but when 360 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:59,240 you have a star player, yeah, people say, well what 361 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:01,920 about whom It is like, No, it's it's you're all 362 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:04,960 you take turns. Who's a star player. But also you're 363 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:08,039 a big team that works together to complete a. 364 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: Task exactly, and you're going to work individually on your 365 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:15,000 skills to be part of that team and and those things, 366 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,200 and when you when. 367 00:19:16,079 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: You fail, when you fail, yes, it's. 368 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: Okay, it's okay. 369 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: And I think that that's kind of an important thing 370 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,079 to learn. 371 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: But when you start to feel like. 372 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Somebody said something about I wasn't as good as I 373 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,039 was the last game or whatever, and that hurts, but 374 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:36,359 you gotta how do you get you know, reminds me 375 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,559 of go inside and find whatever that was and bring 376 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:44,279 that back out because what they say doesn't mean anything. 377 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,839 What you feel and how you react to it. 378 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: Means everything exactly. 379 00:19:49,319 --> 00:19:54,559 Speaker 2: And that's that's a hard concept to teach. I guess 380 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:57,119 that's where I think things like that's why I try 381 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,000 to you know, let's go to the gym so you 382 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:01,799 can see the improvement. And let just for example, lifting 383 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,960 weights this week, we lifted this. Oh my gosh, we're 384 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:09,039 up five pounds. That feels good. That feels I'm getting stronger, 385 00:20:09,079 --> 00:20:12,039 I'm moving forward. I feel good about myself. And I 386 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:14,359 think that that's a really important thing. And you know, 387 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,160 that's where the saying is often like we can do 388 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:22,680 hard things, right. I hear that a lot, and I'll say, yeah, 389 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:25,200 I don't like the grind word and all that. You 390 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:29,279 got to do it, but try to find a word 391 00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:31,200 that is less ugly, you. 392 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,039 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, I got to grind it out. 393 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,240 We're grinding today. 394 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:36,599 Speaker 2: If you all right, if that's a word that makes 395 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,000 you feel happy, that you're going to do that. But 396 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:43,480 most people aren't, and they say it but grudgingly, So 397 00:20:43,559 --> 00:20:46,160 I would try to find some other way to say it. 398 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,000 But it's all those things. Yeah, when you grind, when 399 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:51,240 you run three miles and you didn't feel like it, 400 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:52,440 and you did, and you're at the end of it 401 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,400 and you go, oh, I did it right, that's a 402 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,559 real self esteem thing, And now everything else in your 403 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,079 day just seems to go easier. 404 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Put you just put yourself on a higher frequency. You did. 405 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,319 Speaker 4: Isn't it true that that's why? And because you've experienced that, 406 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,039 then you can share that with somebody else. Yes, that's 407 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:12,000 the love giving back and forth. Okay, that's that we're 408 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,880 not alone, right, we do this together. Yes, we're all 409 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,279 part of the oneness. 410 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,759 Speaker 2: Well that yeah, I mean, look, Harvard's been doing the 411 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:24,119 Happiness Study since nineteen thirty eight, and on longevity and everything, 412 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,440 and the one thing that they're seeing is it's human. 413 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:29,799 Speaker 4: Connection, absolutely, and it's love, and it's love us love. 414 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,759 Speaker 2: I mean, when it really comes down to it, it's love. 415 00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:34,920 It's you know, it's human connection. Well, why we can 416 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,359 say human connection, Yeah, but I hate being around that 417 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,400 guy asshole, but it's not. It's about being around people 418 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,640 you like and doing things and laughing and just and 419 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,960 that's all on a higher frequency of love. 420 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 421 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,519 Speaker 4: But why is it you don't like that person as 422 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:51,640 an asshole because they triggered something in you. 423 00:21:51,839 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's a you things. 424 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: That's a youth thing, right, And I say very rarely 425 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,000 I practice, but I say, you know, sometimes we have 426 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:07,359 to go to the family reunion. We're going to see 427 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,680 that asshole whatever you know, relative who doesn't agree with 428 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,400 me on X, Y or Z. And I always think, well, 429 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:20,559 if you make the choice to go, then line up 430 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:24,039 with that, meaning that I'm all in, and then start 431 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:27,240 to think of all the positive qualities about the person, 432 00:22:28,039 --> 00:22:30,920 maybe even write them down, and you'll get more of that. 433 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,400 If you focus on that, then you will the other side. 434 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000 And then you leave and you go, I guess Bob's 435 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,920 not an asshole, And then you run into your system 436 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,960 and go. Bob's really an asshole. I can't believe what 437 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,319 he said to me, you know what I mean, But 438 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,799 you can. And it's really all. You have all the power. 439 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,319 That's that's the thing that I truly believe. And yet 440 00:22:52,359 --> 00:23:00,319 sometimes maybe I don't because I feel like, you know, 441 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,759 it's like you just want to like collapse and just 442 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:06,640 go fuh. But I think you have all the power. 443 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,319 Speaker 1: I think that. 444 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:14,039 Speaker 2: Buddha gan No, not Gandhi, but Mohammed Jesus, it was 445 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,720 all the same message and trying to say to you 446 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,480 you have it within you. 447 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: You are us, we are you. 448 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,759 Speaker 2: It is the idea that all is one. You have it, 449 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:29,799 so go just be, just be, just be. And you know, 450 00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:32,000 even the Beatles said let it be, you know what 451 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:35,200 I mean. I sometimes think I'll listen to their lyrics now, 452 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,559 and I guess I don't know why my parents weren't 453 00:23:39,599 --> 00:23:45,680 so much into music, but being in that woodstocky hippie 454 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,480 area where I grew up, yeah, you know what I mean, 455 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:54,119 Like I heard all the music and things and like 456 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,880 the Grateful Dead and all that, and now I'll hear 457 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,759 the lyrics. I go, oh, there was a message there 458 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,000 that we weren't you know, you know Mother Mary's has. 459 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: Let it be, Let it be, Let it be. It's okay. 460 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Now you're not getting anything wrong, and you never get 461 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,039 anything done. 462 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,279 Speaker 2: So why are we sweating. You're eternal, right, You're eternal. 463 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,680 You're never going to get it all done whatever it is. 464 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, but we get caught up in the day 465 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,160 to day is shit. It industin. 466 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: We do, we do, we do, but we forget what's important. 467 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: Yes, So how do we remind ourselves of that? By 468 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,920 going within? 469 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: Going within? Going within? And also when you hear a 470 00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:34,160 message over and over again and you ignore it and 471 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,559 then all of a sudden you're at the right part 472 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,680 of your life to actually hear it enlightenment time or 473 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,640 the wakening time or it's like I can't do this anymore. Help, right, 474 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:46,480 And so that's when you look for the signs. That's 475 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,160 whe the serendipity comes in. The signs is Okay, I 476 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,000 heard this person once and it sounds good, all right, 477 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,440 so I'm going to actually connect with that person finally. 478 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,279 But it isn't until you get to the very bottom, 479 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,920 you know, And that's what like recovery program uses. You know, 480 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,720 the step work. First, you admit you're powerless, right, you 481 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,799 need help, and that's very very good. And then it's 482 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,559 how do you use that in your life? How do 483 00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:14,440 you actually make amends but really mean it? And it's 484 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:19,319 about you healing yourself first, going within first, and then 485 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,480 using it beyond. 486 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things. 487 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:27,079 Speaker 2: As you're saying that, healing yourself first, there's so many things. 488 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 4: That we waking up yourself. 489 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: No, right, okay, but let's say there's things that a 490 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,720 lot of us carry around an anger, right, yeah, issues 491 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:43,720 and anger, and how do you get over something that 492 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:48,640 was the word would be somewhat traumatic, life altering, whatever 493 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,720 it is, And how do you sort of reconcile because 494 00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:58,000 I don't I'm not a This sounds really ridiculous, but 495 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:02,440 I know there's no such things really forgiveness. I understand 496 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,960 what people are saying, but it would be about love 497 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,599 and just letting it go and focusing on this moment. 498 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,640 This moment isn't that moment that we had back there 499 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720 or whatever happened. But a lot of times it's so 500 00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,440 you know, you're just angry and you hold on to that, 501 00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:22,400 and that prevents you from moving forward. It prevents you 502 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,319 from from going and so there's got to be a 503 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,880 way to it, to let it go. 504 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: And I think for. 505 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people it's very very hard to do that, 506 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:36,599 even if you go within right, But there's got to 507 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:37,119 be a way. 508 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 4: This is the time, this is the way. And that's 509 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,200 what I like. The science about it is that the 510 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,319 energy is this is the time, and it's been going 511 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,759 on for a long time. It's been going on for 512 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:50,240 a real long time, and now this is the time 513 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,519 that people are waking up. That's why it's called the 514 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:57,079 shift of the paradigm, consciousness, shift of the energy, the 515 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,720 feeling that's going on. You You can do all the work, 516 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,759 you really can, but it's the reasons why you do 517 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:06,200 the work. Now, there's are you doing it for somebody 518 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,400 else to get something the agenda or the narrative, or 519 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,359 are you really going with inside and hitting your bottom 520 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:17,720 and saying I need help. That's the divinity part about it, 521 00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:20,519 the divinest part about it. It has to be your 522 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,920 own awakening. And also when you talked about all those things, 523 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,160 that's exactly what integrated energy therapy is about. It's a 524 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,079 whack them mole effect. You feel guilty, or you feel 525 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,039 angry or you feel resentment, and the forgiveness is in 526 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,839 all those different areas. It's about yourself first. That's why 527 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,559 it's the inside job, healing your self first so that 528 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,319 it makes a difference on the outside in your life changes. 529 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:46,759 Your life changes. 530 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: It's right, your life changes. Life changes, Yes, it. 531 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: Is if you choose. I see your mind going. 532 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of here's the thing is, like, I 533 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,359 know exactly. I'll just make this very personal because I 534 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,519 don't know how else well you have to, but I 535 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:09,599 know exactly the things I need to do to feel 536 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,839 my best and to be my best, and. 537 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,319 Speaker 1: Yet I don't do them, and I don't understand why. 538 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,319 Speaker 4: That's the insecurities, that's the unworthiness or things that you 539 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,079 feel inside this locked within the cellular structure. Now, when 540 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,079 we talk about energy, we're going to go back to 541 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,759 past lives, all right. So a lot of times we 542 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:30,720 talk about this before, a lot of people don't believe 543 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,599 in it. But I believe in it, and I do 544 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,839 know that I have dejuvous right, whether it is past 545 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,599 lives or whether it's something that you've seen that was 546 00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,079 going to happen in the future and it came through 547 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:43,960 and it blew your mind. But it's really about what 548 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,240 you learned from all those past lives. And a lot 549 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,160 of times when you start to waken up, your cellular 550 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,720 memory is remembering the bad things that happened. I was like, oh, 551 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,240 I can't do that. I can't get in touch with 552 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,720 that feeling or what is really coming through because you 553 00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:00,759 know what's going to happen. It didn't turn out very 554 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,119 good past lives, so you're gonna stay stuck, and that's 555 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,279 exactly where they want you. But going with inside helps 556 00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:16,480 you unravel those negative energy loops of distortion. Distortion is 557 00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:21,559 the negative things that you used to survive. You survived 558 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:25,319 in those lifetimes. Oh okay, and that's okay, that's okay. 559 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,559 But this is a different time of humanity. We are evolving. 560 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what is that almost resistance? 561 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: Like you just got that's the. 562 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 4: Fear, Yeah, that's the fear. It was like, if I 563 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,759 don't do this, I'm gonna I won't won't be able 564 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,559 to live, just like when I got into recovery. Right 565 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:46,759 when I was in rehab, I put myself into recovery. 566 00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,960 It's only one out of twelve and and a lot 567 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,799 of them resist, resists resist, and I counselor said to me, Shila, 568 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:56,759 what are you feeling? What are you feeling? They kept 569 00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,240 after me and I said, you know, I didn't dare 570 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:01,599 say what feeling them Finally I blurted out, I don't 571 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:04,000 know what the f I was feeling. It didn't but 572 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,200 it was the fear that if I started crying, I 573 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,720 would never stop because the pain was so deep inside. 574 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:13,680 It was the pain from all the years before, you know, 575 00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:17,119 when my father died, and feeling alone but not being 576 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,599 accepted and not feeling loved in all the childhood stuff. 577 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,519 But it also was the fear of all the other 578 00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:28,720 lifetimes that I've experienced, the pain that was coming through. 579 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:33,440 And so that's why a lot of recovery work is 580 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,240 about the spiritual connection that you have to totally let 581 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,400 go and that God as they say, oh, that God, yeah, 582 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:40,920 whatever it is. 583 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,279 Speaker 1: But they say it, but and I think it's it's 584 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,240 a T shirt. You know what I'm saying. It's a 585 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,759 T shirt. It's a saying on a T shirt. 586 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: It's a bumper sticker, And people go like, oh my God, 587 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,160 but have you It's hard to do that because you want, 588 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,240 you feel like you have to control this or hold 589 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,279 it tight, and all it's doing is holding back exactly and. 590 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,759 Speaker 1: That and you're not seeing that. 591 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: And for my for my personal thing, like I know, 592 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:09,039 I should probably get up at five o'clock in the 593 00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,519 morning and go for a walk and do a stretching 594 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:12,720 and meditate and write. 595 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,079 Speaker 1: And I always feel better when I do that. But 596 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,680 I'm tired, okay, yeah, and. 597 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,559 Speaker 2: So and and I know the person I want to be, right, 598 00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:25,079 But then I go, but that guy's boring, you know 599 00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,839 what I mean, Like, I go, that guy's boring. Wouldn't 600 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960 you rather go out Friday night, get a little buzz 601 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,319 on and just have a good laugh. But that's but 602 00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,480 then you get but then the next day you don't 603 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,119 feel as good, and then you're behind, and so everything's 604 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,759 like piling up, piling up, piling up, and then you're just. 605 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: Like ah, and you right, and so you've. 606 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: Had the control all along to do it, but you 607 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,359 look at it wrong. And I don't know how else 608 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,000 to look at it, because I go, I know what 609 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,400 I want to be, I know where I want to be, 610 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,799 I know exactly what I want to do with all 611 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,279 this stuff, but I can't seem to get out of 612 00:31:59,279 --> 00:31:59,920 my own way. 613 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so the thought process, you just put it out there. 614 00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:06,119 I can't seem to get out of my own way. 615 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,640 You purposely or didn't know that, but subconsciously you put 616 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,720 it out there. You can't do it. 617 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, your thoughts, yes. 618 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: All right, that's where the shoulda woodis and kudubs come in. 619 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,640 When when I say shift into the positive thinking, that's 620 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,079 where the energy comes in. Your thoughts actually promotes what 621 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,480 you're going to feel on the outside and also on 622 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:33,039 the inside right, and your actions. So if you project 623 00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,359 I'm going to have a great day today, it's going 624 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,519 to be wonderful and I'm going to accomplish all these 625 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,640 things and I'm just so glad, thank you for allowing 626 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,920 me to do this. You put it out there, all right, 627 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,640 and you will see the difference in the changes. Just 628 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,880 like turn off the electrical stuff at night. You see 629 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,480 the changes in your sleep cycles. You will see the 630 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,519 changes in humanity. You will see the changes and the 631 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,920 people that you connect with and say, ah, now I 632 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,519 get it. I learned that lesson. All right, now I 633 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,359 can put my thought in. It's about conversation, right, you know, 634 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,160 and we know when a person is being sincere because 635 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,920 you can feel it. 636 00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:14,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you an example. I had two parties 637 00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:18,400 to go to last night, and either one of them, 638 00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:20,559 one more than the other, could have turned into the 639 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:21,920 proverbial shit show. 640 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,079 Speaker 1: Of course, right, And I. 641 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: Could have really let myself go and probably wound up 642 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,839 in a situation that I would not have been comfortable with. 643 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,359 And I have a lot going on with my son, 644 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,200 and I made him come with me, and he was 645 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,799 not happy. 646 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: Oh I bet, And he stood there. 647 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,839 Speaker 2: And we stayed, and he was making fun of people 648 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,640 to me right, poking fun at the other people, and 649 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,599 I was laughing hysterically, and he started to loosen up. 650 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,640 And then he went out and two kids who are 651 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,279 probably like nine or ten years old, he's fifteen and 652 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,839 six foot one, wanted to play him in basketball two 653 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,839 on one and he's in dress shoes and he loved it. 654 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,119 He had a great time, and some girl there he 655 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,159 got her number or something, and we left and I 656 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,519 needed to go to another party that was for a 657 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,639 friend was having, but this one was at a bar, 658 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,960 so he couldn't come with me. And he said to me, 659 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:20,280 he goes, I wish you could go back. I had 660 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,480 a good time, and I was like, yeah, And then 661 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:25,760 I went to this other place. My other son was there. 662 00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:28,239 I didn't drink a lot and I left and on 663 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,039 my way home, I was like, that was a great 664 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,760 night without being stupid, without being stupid, And I'm like, 665 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,920 that's how I want to live. This is what I want. 666 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:40,000 I want to be able to do these things but 667 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:43,719 not lose myself. But I have this thing where I 668 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,360 don't know what it is. I like drinking and once 669 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,400 I start going, well, that's like, yeah, but I but 670 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,159 I but I don't like drinking like that anymore. 671 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: That's yeah, I don't. 672 00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: Like I like the social aspect of it, but I'd 673 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,679 almost like to have a placebo in my hand, if 674 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,320 you know what I'm saying. 675 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: Like everybody thinks it's a drink by today, Well. 676 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 4: When I go to parties, I don't get invited to 677 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,840 too many because most of them are drinking parties. And 678 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,239 they say, you don't drink, but that's their judgment interpretation 679 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,039 of what a party is going to be. All you 680 00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:16,840 have to drink. It's like, there's so many sober people 681 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,239 that have a great time. When I got sober back 682 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,039 in ninety three and when I went the first convention, 683 00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:27,079 to see people dancing and laughing. It's like, holy shit, 684 00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:31,639 what have I been missing? Because it's being authentic, it's 685 00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,280 being real. You're not putting a show on. You're not 686 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,440 getting a courage out of the bottles, right thing, You're 687 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,320 actually being who you are and people want to be 688 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,840 around you. It's not what it's it's like choices again, 689 00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:45,639 what do you want to do? What do you don't 690 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:48,400 want to do? You know? And and it's and it's 691 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,519 great because I love going to parties and when people, 692 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,079 you know, reals I'm not drinking, I don't have to 693 00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:56,599 show that I'm not drinking. I just have a drink 694 00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:58,840 in my hand. Who says if this has to be alcohol? 695 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,400 And that the thing is it's a conversation. It is 696 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,920 the fun that you have there, and you can have 697 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,840 it without the booze. But we are so conditioned that 698 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,400 you have to have a party. We'll bring your own 699 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,000 booze type of thing. You know. It's like, well, bring 700 00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:11,719 your own food. 701 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: Is that a booze? 702 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,079 Speaker 4: Bring your own food? Or bring bring your cards, or 703 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:19,119 let's get together, bring your conversation, you know. And that's 704 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,559 what I like to do, is like how can I 705 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,599 you know, how can I have fun? Just be myself. 706 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,920 I'm more than just you know this meat suit as 707 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,880 they say, you know, I'm more than just you know, 708 00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:35,440 my persona or what are my my title or whatever? 709 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,360 A person, a person who loves life, you know, and 710 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,239 and we are all in this together. 711 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,199 Speaker 2: I think that's a great note to kind of wrap 712 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:48,400 it up on. I will say this, if you you 713 00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:53,000 need to go see Sheila and do the healing, because 714 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:56,320 I think it is life changing. And I often wonder 715 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,880 if you told me, oh, there's gonna be ups and 716 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,039 downs after this to have to I was like, yeah right, Hieler. 717 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,639 Speaker 4: Well yeah, Well what I like to teach is about 718 00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:09,519 with this energy medicine that we have, and when I 719 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,000 teach my classes integrate energy therapy, and I also I 720 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,960 am teaching Udi Field healing now, which I'm a teacher 721 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,920 for that, which is the higher above I e T. 722 00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,559 It's all about your own changes, and it's about you 723 00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:25,400 first of all, understanding what's placked, What are all those issues? 724 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,360 What are the fears? Why do I do the things 725 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,840 over and over again expecting different results? That's insanity. So 726 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,840 once you unlock that, it opens up a whole new 727 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,039 door and yes, it's going to be up and down, 728 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,840 up and down. It's the same with the kid when 729 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,239 they start to walk, you know, up and down, up 730 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,000 and down. It's all new territory for all of us. 731 00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 1: Right. 732 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 4: But I love making the connection. And it's like I'm 733 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,400 just a conduit. You're the one that's doing the work, 734 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,119 right I am. Yes, I am the teacher, I am 735 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,280 the helper kind of it. But also I give so 736 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,840 much credit to all the people that mentored me, that 737 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920 help me, and we do this together. 738 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,199 Speaker 1: Yes, we do this together. Uh. 739 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: Go to Shila tillic dot com and you can find 740 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,000 your own session. 741 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: You can learn more. 742 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: Maybe take a class, take a class and learn. Sheila 743 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,719 always fun, always needed, like you reach out at the 744 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,920 right time, you know. 745 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:21,159 Speaker 1: I always need it and I do appreciate it. I 746 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,039 like the bill lightman. 747 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: I still haven't made it its own thing, but I 748 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,440 think that's coming a little faster. I told you about 749 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,320 the university that's putting healing in alternative healing, and so 750 00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:35,679 I think something with that I'll comp But I like 751 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,000 this and thank you for your time this morning. 752 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:45,159 Speaker 3: All right, answersan you step into the I love friend