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<v Speaker 1>People spread out all over the mountains, taking all the

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<v Speaker 1>land and eating all the food. Animals didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>place to go. Eagle, chief of the animals, told the

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<v Speaker 1>animals that they could not remain in their traditional places

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<v Speaker 1>because people had taken them. He asked them where they

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<v Speaker 1>wished to go. Eagle said, what are you going to become?

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<v Speaker 2>What will you be?

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<v Speaker 1>I myself am going to fly high up in the

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<v Speaker 1>air and live on squirrels and sometimes on deer. Harryman said,

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<v Speaker 1>I will go live among the big trees and hunt

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<v Speaker 1>only at night when people are asleep. Dog said I

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<v Speaker 1>will stay with people and be their friend, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will follow them, and perhaps I will get something.

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<v Speaker 2>To eat in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Buzzard said, when something dies, I will smell it. I

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<v Speaker 1>will go there and eat it. Crow said, when I

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<v Speaker 1>see something lying dead, I will pick out its eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Coyote said, I will go about killing grasshoppers. That is

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<v Speaker 1>how I will live. Hummingbird said, I will go to

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<v Speaker 1>the flowers and get my food from them. Conwar said

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<v Speaker 1>I will not stay here. I will go far off

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<v Speaker 1>into the mountains. Perhaps I will find something to eat there.

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<v Speaker 1>Woodpecker said, I will get acorns and make holes in

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<v Speaker 1>the trees to store them in. Bou Jay said, I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to make trees grow over the hills.

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<v Speaker 2>I will work.

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<v Speaker 1>Rat said, I will go where there are old trees

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<v Speaker 1>and make my house in them. Mouse said, I will

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<v Speaker 1>run here, there and everywhere. I shall have holes, and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps I can live in that way. Traut said, I

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<v Speaker 1>will live in the water, and perhaps I can find

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<v Speaker 1>something to eat there. That was the time when animals

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<v Speaker 1>stopped being like us and scattered it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to episode twenty episode

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. I'm your host Austin, and I'm Mike, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's also a host. I am a host, as established

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<v Speaker 2>last episode, and if you didn't listen to last episode,

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<v Speaker 2>episode twenty one, this is going to be feeding off

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<v Speaker 2>of that, and that episode is going to be feeding

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<v Speaker 2>off its previous episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Which fed off the episode before.

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<v Speaker 2>That, which fed off the episode for the before that.

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<v Speaker 2>So and go back in time and subscribe to our

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<v Speaker 2>podcast on Stitcher, on Spotify, Pandora, and durist box, fast Box.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on every major podcasting platform. And I just got

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<v Speaker 1>to say we have I've been ticking up with our

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<v Speaker 1>weekly number of listeners, it's been awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty cool. It's very encouraging to see that. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're just listening in for the first time to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the original episodes, welcome, listen to the cattle

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<v Speaker 2>mutilation ones. Yeah, but give us a little graint of out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're figuring ourselves out. We're in the adolescence of our.

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<v Speaker 1>As Austin would say, and I say often, we are hacks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say that, you say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do say that because we're not professional podcasters. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the heck we're doing, or actually we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what the heck we are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we think we know. We're like we're like teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>We know everything right now? We know everything?

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, no, no, no, I think we know a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit enough just to be dangerous. But also our

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<v Speaker 1>mindset is we don't know what everything we're gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>or what we're gonna know, or how we're gonna do it,

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<v Speaker 1>or what we're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do know that we're gonna learn more and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get better and better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have some good drinks and you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep waving some salami wrapped and pepper jack cheese at me.

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<v Speaker 2>You made this for me. It's really awesome. It's so good,

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<v Speaker 2>so simple.

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<v Speaker 1>So tonight we're gonna turn the corner a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, kind of the modern view of Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>The daisies and the rabbits and the welcome to Oregons.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe even the more the fairy is, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>can take a drink if you're playing our drinking game.

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<v Speaker 1>The more nefarious reports that come out of places like

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<v Speaker 1>the national parks where people go missing, or where people

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<v Speaker 1>have been abducted and brutalized by Big Four.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Teddy Roosevelt's friend died, got mrked or his partners.

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<v Speaker 1>His friends, his friend's partner got yeah, gork bitten in

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<v Speaker 1>the karateid artery with fame, was.

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<v Speaker 2>It karated whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the one that runs in your drink, it's that

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<v Speaker 1>big one we're in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's karateid. Yeah, yeah, because that's the karated

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<v Speaker 2>holt where you kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of choke people out. But today we are going to,

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<v Speaker 1>as you heard in the opening, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be investigating some of the earliest reports in North America

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<v Speaker 1>of the creature that has modernly been called.

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<v Speaker 2>Big sasquatchas snowman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those guys. And what's really cool about the Native

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<v Speaker 1>American culture and history and mythology is that it includes

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<v Speaker 1>not just like one or two or five or ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand types of creatures that could be called bigfoot or sasquatch,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are literally hundreds of names for creatures in

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<v Speaker 1>Native American mythology that equals Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say that the two words are salami bagel, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you translate that from Native American to English, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be like bigfoot or is it just salami bagel

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<v Speaker 2>equals the thing we associate with bagfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Native American names range from anything from hairy

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<v Speaker 1>giant to harry Man to ice giant to rock giant

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<v Speaker 1>to cannibal giant.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can just go down the lists. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't literally translate to bigfoot, but it translates to the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing as what we understand is it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It does in one instance, which is the instance that

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<v Speaker 1>we read the dramatic reading that we had as the.

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<v Speaker 2>Opener about all the animals from the parting from the

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<v Speaker 2>ways of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yo Kut tribe in the San Mulquin valley has

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<v Speaker 1>a long history and actual Indian names for that can

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<v Speaker 1>be translated as Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to mention right now a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of virtue signaling on my part. We're not good with

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<v Speaker 2>pronunciation though, and we're not good with p see slang, whatever, Indian,

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<v Speaker 2>Native American, native people, native Indian, whatever, whatever it's supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be used. Just give us. That's what we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Give us. You're going to use as many

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<v Speaker 2>different ones as possible so that we can cover.

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<v Speaker 1>All our We love you all, and we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to offend anybody. So if we are in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form, please forgive us in advance.

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<v Speaker 2>We just people, We just some people.

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<v Speaker 1>So strangely enough, the Yokuts tribe in the San Joaquin

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<v Speaker 1>Valley in California had names that actually for this creature

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<v Speaker 1>that actually translate to Bigfoot and or hairy man. The

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<v Speaker 1>hairy man translation comes from the word mayuk de tat.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I'm saying that right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's there's not a lot of like pronunciation guide or

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook for these ancient ancient one two pronunciation right, so

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<v Speaker 2>that would.

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<v Speaker 1>Be translated hairyman mayok dytad and then the other one

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<v Speaker 1>for bigfoot. The actual word bigfoot is shoon shoon nooter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like shoon shoon newt and then are with an

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<v Speaker 1>exclamation plate, So maybe shoon shun yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that translates in the Yoku language to bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So in that little opening, little reed that we did

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of explains the origination of the animals and

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<v Speaker 1>how they live. The was it the second or third

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<v Speaker 1>description of the hairy man and he lives among the

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<v Speaker 1>the large trees, which could be translated sequoias.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and this originates from a tribe in the San

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<v Speaker 1>Joaquin Valley. So there's a very rich history of bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>sidings and sasquat sidings in that region. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>find that really really crazy. So here we have a

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<v Speaker 1>story that's thousands of years old, and it's been translated

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<v Speaker 1>and passed down sure, But here, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>we find in this story and the creation story of

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<v Speaker 1>how animals became the way they are because man took

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<v Speaker 1>over the environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they used to be kind of like people used

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<v Speaker 2>to like discuss and dialogue together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then when man came in, then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, they had.

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<v Speaker 2>To like scatter get out here. And the hairy man

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<v Speaker 2>says that he's going to to live with the sequoias

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<v Speaker 2>and he's going to hunt at night when the humans

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<v Speaker 2>are sleep, when they're asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that that kind of intriguing. Another intriguing part

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So you think about the creation story and

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<v Speaker 1>you have all these animals, and then at the fall,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the biblical methods, at the fall,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it says in Genesis it talks

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<v Speaker 1>about that the fear of man will overtake the animals,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, the animals are no longer

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<v Speaker 1>like in are in harmony with humankind, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they're separated. And and then after the flood you have

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<v Speaker 1>where all of a sudden, now man is a meat eater,

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<v Speaker 1>and before the flood he was he was vegan.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm oh all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it's all these things are kind of weird

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<v Speaker 1>that you know that this is all kind of boiled

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<v Speaker 1>down into this myth.

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<v Speaker 2>This the snake. We're crawling on his belly and he'll

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<v Speaker 2>no longer talk, right, Andy, a thing for all animals?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I mean, so I bought this book.

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<v Speaker 1>And the book is called Giants, Cannibals and Monsters Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>in Native Culture and it's by Kathy Moscowitz Strain. And

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, this book is awesome. It's got pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>which is important to me because I'm one of those readers. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's got all these pictures, and but it's looking down

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<v Speaker 1>by different you know, regions, and you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>find all these stories that relate to Bigfoot in North America.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a map that breaks them down into these

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<v Speaker 1>different regions. Like one of them is the Arctic Cultural Region,

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<v Speaker 1>So in that region you have a lot of history,

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<v Speaker 1>like like the Eskimo tribes. And then another like you

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<v Speaker 1>have like the Sioux, you have the Commanche, you have

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<v Speaker 1>all these different Indian tribes and they're legends of a

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<v Speaker 1>creature that is basically the same as Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have the Hairy Man, you have the rock Giant,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the Hairy Giant, you have the cannibal Giant.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all these strange stories about these mythical creatures

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<v Speaker 1>from Native American lore.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you read one earlier about just kind of off

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<v Speaker 2>mic about giants basically having a war yep. Like so

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<v Speaker 2>basically but nice, kind friendly giants taking in a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people and then fighting against against cannibal giants that

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<v Speaker 2>could scream so loud it would kill people that were small.

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<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like these giants were huge giants. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean like like at one point you talked about how

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<v Speaker 2>they hid the normal sized people.

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<v Speaker 1>On a shelf in their wigwam, then there were the

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<v Speaker 1>size of a mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Have you ever seen or read the book BFG,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about these giants. I don't know what BFG stands for,

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<v Speaker 2>just means big friggin guy. But giant he hides is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a kind giant takes this kid and he

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<v Speaker 1>Type thing because they like to eat humans, because.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to eat humans, and they're they're huge. And

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<v Speaker 2>the one giant comes in and makes a mess of

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<v Speaker 2>his giant apartment and then he's hiding the girl inside

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<v Speaker 2>a gourg type weird vegetable. Well, one thing I think

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<v Speaker 2>the giant does. Yeah, he like doesn't know all the

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<v Speaker 2>right words, but he kind of like tries, so he

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<v Speaker 1>So is this like a work of fiction or is

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well interesting do you say that? So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to draw some parallels here. So we're talking about giants

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<v Speaker 1>that are cannibals. We're talking about good giants and bad giants.

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<v Speaker 1>the Nephelin and the raf Am and basically these gods

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<v Speaker 1>or angels that saw that women were beautiful and they

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<v Speaker 1>cohabited with him and produced offspring that became you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the giants, the men of Renown or the Nephelom in

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<v Speaker 1>the biblical context. So some of them sound like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't so bad, and some of them were really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>which in the biblical context brought about the destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>the world through judgment and the flood, the Great Flood.

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<v Speaker 1>But in these Native American legends, there's always these cannibal

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<v Speaker 1>giants which are always juxtaposed to maybe these these good

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<v Speaker 1>benevolent giants. So like in the Book of Enoch and

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<v Speaker 1>the story of the Watchers, you have these these creatures,

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<v Speaker 2>Of our episodes. And so these guys, these.

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<v Speaker 1>Fallen angels came down and they actually like tried to

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<v Speaker 1>help mankind, but they were cursed because they left their abode, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But some of them came down, and in the Book

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<v Speaker 1>of Enoch, a lot of these characters are bad. And

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<v Speaker 1>the offspring of these of these angels that cohabited with

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<v Speaker 1>women were violent and they were cannibals and destructive and awful.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's almost like you've got that same story in

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<v Speaker 1>Native American culture. You got these giants that were huge

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<v Speaker 1>but weren't necessarily you know, bad, right, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of Bigfoot researchers believe that maybe Bigfoot are

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<v Speaker 1>composed of like a bunch of different tribes of Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>type of creatures. Some of them maybe have good characteristics,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them maybe are bad or really nefarious. So

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<v Speaker 1>these stories from Native American history and mythologies kind of

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<v Speaker 1>support that they all kind of tie together, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just really intriguing to me to see how they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of marry up right, And maybe it's a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of self fulfilling prophecy because we're looking forward to draw

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<v Speaker 2>the links where we feel like we could, because you

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<v Speaker 2>could probably draw aling to a bunch of other things.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's kind of cool the way how easily these

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<v Speaker 2>links come up for us, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, and you hear them and see him and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh okay. So not only that, but like

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of Native American mythologies and different tribes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are these creation myths or creation stories a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of cultures, not just Native amath.

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<v Speaker 1>Tons, right, yeah, but we're talking mostly Native American stuff

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. So even like in the the Sioux Indians,

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<v Speaker 1>they have this creation myth that's very interesting and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of has a feature of a bigfoot type creature.

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<v Speaker 1>They called him the chia Tunka or big man, And

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<v Speaker 1>in this little description it says that the chia and

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<v Speaker 1>Tunka or big Man is a kind of husband who

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<v Speaker 1>is wise in the way of everything, with its own

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<v Speaker 1>natural wisdom sometimes we say that this one is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an animal from the ancient times who can take

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<v Speaker 1>a big, hairy form. I all so think he can

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<v Speaker 1>change into a coyote. Some of the people who saw

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<v Speaker 1>him did not respect what they were seeing, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are already gone. They exist in another dimension from us,

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<v Speaker 1>but can appear in the dimension whenever they have a

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<v Speaker 1>reason to see. It's like they are many levels, many dimensions.

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<v Speaker 1>When our time and this one is finished, we move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next. But the Big Man can go between.

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Man comes from God. He's our big brother,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looks out for us.

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<v Speaker 2>God probably being an interpretation of another.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be like it would be like the

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<v Speaker 1>Sue Creator. Yeah, yeah, the Great Creator, the Great Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's from the spirit of Crazy Horse by Peter Matheson. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, here you have this description of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Man come from God, from Crazy Horse who says that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they see him as a multi demands being

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from God.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that sound of the kind of words

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<v Speaker 2>they used for dimension, because I don't think they knew dimension. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean they knew a dimension, other

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<v Speaker 2>world or another another part of life, or a parallel

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<v Speaker 2>plane or existence. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is. But this is just

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy to me that they're using this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>big Man who is from the spirit realm. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say that spirit realm who can come across into our

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<v Speaker 1>dimension and take a shape of whatever he wants. And

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds very similar to a lot of the Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reportings that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, it's always he. I mean, like some people

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<v Speaker 2>say he has a cloaking device, and those are the

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And other people are saying he's

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<v Speaker 2>passing through dimensions, and then there's other people that say

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<v Speaker 2>he's like on a different wavelength and the vibrations of

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<v Speaker 2>his existence occasionally line up with the vibrations of ours

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<v Speaker 2>and we kind of like cross paths, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's all kinds of little weird theories about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and these you know what's weird is it is always.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kind of tie in with what we've been

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<v Speaker 1>we were phasing out of the you know, our series

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<v Speaker 1>on petroglyphs, and we were talking about all the legend

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<v Speaker 1>mythologies across the world for different creatures, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>them was this idea of giants and bigfoot and they're everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you tie that in with the biblical kind

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<v Speaker 1>of narratives that you have of like these creatures that fall,

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<v Speaker 1>they come, they cohabit with women, they have these hybrid offspring,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that those are somehow disembodied.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we talked in the flood or whatever, in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Flood or whatever, and then we talked about maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>need to find a residence body, a resident body that

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<v Speaker 1>they can live in, and we talked about synthetic kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ideas, and we talked about maybe it's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Some kind of cloning or some kind of genetic manipulation

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<v Speaker 1>that creates a body. We talked about like UFOs and

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<v Speaker 1>the connection to Bigfoot sightings and the supposed mutilated cows

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<v Speaker 1>and these bodies that apparently look like baby Bigfoot coming

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just really strange. It is super rid

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<v Speaker 2>our logic. I mean, I don't know, Yeah, it's craziness.

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<v Speaker 2>If if you follow along, what is kind of assumingly

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<v Speaker 2>proposed is that aliens, no demon or angelic beings.

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<v Speaker 1>The elohem which could be translated gods in.

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<v Speaker 2>Our little gating biological suits via bovine surrogate mothers.

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<v Speaker 4>To manipulation to live in our world, and tie that

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<v Speaker 4>with the constant repeating of every alien abductee talks about

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<v Speaker 4>that they are sexually probed.

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<v Speaker 5>Who are like a kind of hope, I kind of

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<v Speaker 5>hope that my trainer Park gets abducted backs again, because

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<v Speaker 5>when I went up in that starship and then there

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<v Speaker 5>was this beautiful alien and she comed out and she's naked,

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<v Speaker 5>and she made me get naked and we did and

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<v Speaker 5>and and they had they had a water bed, and uh,

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<v Speaker 5>one thing led to another.

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<v Speaker 2>There's stories about that, like a guy gets abducted, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you know, he like gets abducted, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's like a sexy alien that comes in. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard of a sexy female alien about Marvin Gay. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been like so most of the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>Our people get abducted, they get they get like they

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and they're kind of semi awake, and something's

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<v Speaker 1>communicating with them telepathically and saying, hey, you know, don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be okay. But we're going to like basically

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<v Speaker 1>do all these tests that involve your sexual organs, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's very comy. But anyway, that's a way far away.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also strangely connected to our is on Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>because they all kind of line up with this weird

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<v Speaker 1>basic concept that something outside of our dimension, call it elohem,

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<v Speaker 1>call it aliens, call it whatever you want, comes into

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<v Speaker 1>in human land.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of weird too, because we did a

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<v Speaker 2>short little stint on you know, shipmen and stuff like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and even they connect and yeah, even some of them

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have like a sometimes sexual sometime you know

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<v Speaker 2>kind of yep, they tie in less, but they do

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<v Speaker 2>tie in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and they connect also in the level of disembodied

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<v Speaker 1>spirits and dimension kind of transportation, yeah, interdimensional maybe manifestations

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<v Speaker 1>of some kind of spiritual existence of some thing, some

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<v Speaker 1>some what would you call it. I was almost a deity,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not even a deity. It's some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>existence of some kind of entity. Yeah, that's got its

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<v Speaker 1>own unique persona. It's not like you know in Easter mysticism,

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<v Speaker 1>where when you die everything kind of goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>one source and we all become one of the cosmos. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>in all things that we're talking about here about aliens

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<v Speaker 1>and Bigfoot and even death and spirits, they retain their individuality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they aren't just persona just kind of vaporized to nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get assimilated into the borg. They they are still Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a Star Trek reference. Okay, we have a borg.

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<v Speaker 2>Lower your shields and story your ships.

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<v Speaker 1>We will add to a biological and technological distinctiveness to

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<v Speaker 1>our own. Your culture will adapt to services resistance.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, man.

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<v Speaker 1>But so so yeah, they still retain their individuality. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that's all of these things are

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of side rabbit holes, but they're all very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting down that line. We also have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Native American mythology. We have stories about the creation and

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<v Speaker 1>about the creator. So I've got another one here. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really good, good book. Opening Noise, Thank you, was awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm just going to read this excerpt. It's

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<v Speaker 1>from that book that I talked about earlier. Giants, Cannibals

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<v Speaker 1>and Monsters by Kathy Muskowitz Strain bigfoot in native culture.

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<v Speaker 1>So on page one oh seven under Drowned Giants in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pawnee.

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<v Speaker 2>Tribe Okay from Indiana, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the sources from fossil Legends of the First Americans

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<v Speaker 1>by Adriana Mayer in two thousand and five. The first

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<v Speaker 1>men who lived on Earth were very large Indians. These

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<v Speaker 1>giants were very big and very strong, and used to

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<v Speaker 1>hunt buffalo on foot. They were so swift and strong

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<v Speaker 1>that he could run down a buffalo and kill it

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<v Speaker 1>with a great stone or a club, or even with

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<v Speaker 1>his flint knife. A giant could throw a bull buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>over his back as a hunter today carries an antelope,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would tuck a yearling in his belt like

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<v Speaker 1>a rabbit. But these giants did not believe in Tarawa,

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<v Speaker 1>the Creator. Nowadays, all people wherever they live, all Indians,

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<v Speaker 1>all white men, all Mexicans, and all black men speak

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<v Speaker 1>to Tarahua and ask that he will give them the

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<v Speaker 1>right kind of mind and that he will bless them.

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<v Speaker 1>But the giants of the old days did not respect

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<v Speaker 1>the Creator, thinking that nothing could overcome them, they grew

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<v Speaker 1>worse and worse. At last, Tarahua got angry and made

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<v Speaker 1>the waters rise the ground became soppy mud. These great

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<v Speaker 1>people sank down into the mud and were destroyed. The

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<v Speaker 1>great bones found on the prairie are the bones of

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<v Speaker 1>these people.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA That one's like too obvious of a parallel to

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<v Speaker 2>what we've been talking about. I know, it's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there you've got basically the story of the flood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically in a nutshell. If you added in the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Enoch, Yeah, if you just go with the

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<v Speaker 2>traditional way I learned it in Sunday school, is like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was bay out and they all liked to drink

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<v Speaker 2>the alcohols and love women, and then God punched.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it does say that they were violent, wickedly violent.

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<v Speaker 1>The violence had overcome the earth, and that there God

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<v Speaker 1>looked and there was like nobody was good. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the original Greek words that described Noah,

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<v Speaker 1>it says that he was pure in his generations.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, so it basically is the bloodline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's basically saying that his genetic or stud let

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<v Speaker 1>me say, possibly could be saying that his genetic history

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<v Speaker 1>was unblemished, so he didn't carry the dysfunctional yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fallen fallen angel genetics, and so God destroyed the world

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<v Speaker 1>to save mankind.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very very interesting when you look at it

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<v Speaker 1>through that lens. So the story it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive to you know, that narrative, the Mesopotamian narrative, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, the Book of Enoch or the Innuma Leish,

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<v Speaker 1>or you talk about the Bible, the Torah. This is

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<v Speaker 1>about a story that is spread across the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are similar stories in almost every major culture culture.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Even when you come way out west, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean like this area, the Americas are pretty pretty far

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<v Speaker 2>away from where every biblical thing quote unquote happened, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the Middle You never hear like the h

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<v Speaker 2>the children of Israel went to New York City. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always like babush Kaban or something. Yeah, and that sounded Russian.

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<v Speaker 2>I did Bushki I think means Grandma. Anyway, they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>always going to a like Babylon or it's always some

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<v Speaker 2>Middle Eastern sounding name. It's never the things that we recognize.

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<v Speaker 2>But over here, you know you said pane, right, pony, pony.

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<v Speaker 2>If anybody's watched Parks and Recreation, Panny indiandos where that

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<v Speaker 2>takes place. Yeah. Yeah, So like that's taking all of

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of flood giant Book of Enoch things and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bringing them over into our continent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's basically saying, Okay, these kind of narratives

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<v Speaker 1>exist somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, and it's not just there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can go to Africa, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to Asia as rich in these kind of narratives. There

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<v Speaker 1>are all these creation stories, all these creation myths that

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing when you boil them down, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't a surprise to me to hear these

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<v Speaker 1>things in you know, like in Asia or even Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>because those are kind of connected. It's the same continent, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You could you could walk there, right theoretically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you can go into Russia, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go into that whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Siberia, down to France, whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>But here in the Americas, you don't think that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have that same connection, but you do. And not

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<v Speaker 1>just from North America, but all the way down through

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<v Speaker 1>South America. These things are everywhere. This story is everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we said in our discussion on petroglyphs, where we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about these symbols kind of hint towards that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a genesis that somehow these same stories originated from people

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<v Speaker 1>who have experienced or knew the same stories around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. So this is the same thing, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is in like more of a narrative spoken kind of tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oral translator, yeah, oral translation.

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<v Speaker 1>These things were handed down. They weren't necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>Written on you know cablet right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were handed down orally from generation to generation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure Little Orphanani right exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Little Orphanani by an old guy named John when he

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<v Speaker 3>learned it in the fifth grade. Many years beyond here

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<v Speaker 3>we go, Little or Fanantic comes to our house to stay,

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<v Speaker 3>to wash the cups and saucers up and brush the

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<v Speaker 3>crumbs away, the shoes and chickens off the porch, and

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<v Speaker 3>clean the hearth, and make the beds and earboard and

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<v Speaker 3>key and all the other children. When the supper dishes

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<v Speaker 3>are done, we sit around the kitchen fire and had

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<v Speaker 3>the most is fun listening to the ghost tails and

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<v Speaker 3>said Granny Tael about and the gobbles that get you

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't watch out.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you who don't know Little orphan any

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<v Speaker 2>we played in I think it was one of our

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<v Speaker 2>spooky things, strange things in the spooky place place, spooky

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<v Speaker 2>things in a strange place. Yep. And my grandpa John

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<v Speaker 2>needs to tell me that story when I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little around a campfire, around campfires, or downstairs in the

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<v Speaker 2>basement with all lights off and a flashlight in his face.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you remember that story? You could you recite

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<v Speaker 1>it right now, the whole thing. But if you could,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be an oral tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>And luckily now we have the ability to record that.

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<v Speaker 2>But before it was kind of subject to embellishment because

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, here's the story that my grandpa told.

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<v Speaker 2>But I bet you they heard the stories a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So just like that. So let's carry that theme

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<v Speaker 1>a little further. If you were to have to try

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<v Speaker 1>to rem remember that entire story, you could probably get

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<v Speaker 1>eighty ninety percent of it correct. You could write it down,

547
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<v Speaker 1>you could you could make it up in your head,

548
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<v Speaker 1>but you'd probably not remember every detail. So you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of maybe embellish or throw in your own

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<v Speaker 1>words or your own thoughts on what others you're based

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<v Speaker 1>on your memory, And that's what happens in oral tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>So these Native American stories. I'm sure they have some

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<v Speaker 1>degradation down.

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<v Speaker 2>Through time, like the telephone game, right exactly. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to take this stuff with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>But the basic bedrock of these stories are the same

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<v Speaker 2>as a lot of the stories that we find in

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<v Speaker 2>other cultures. And it's very fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>So another book that I got, I got, I bought

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<v Speaker 1>a couple books because I wanted to research some of

561
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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, is called Giants of the down Land Ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Wabanaki Tales. I guess that's how you pronounce it. Maybe

563
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<v Speaker 1>it's Wabanicky Tales. But it's a collection that was collected

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<v Speaker 1>by Alice Mead and Arnold Neptune, and it's a little book,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's got all these stories that kind of they

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of run together, they all kind of fit together.

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<v Speaker 1>The basic part of this entire story is that there

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<v Speaker 1>were a bunch of bad giants, there were a few

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<v Speaker 1>good giants, and there were human heroes. And the human

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<v Speaker 1>heroes went out and battled most of the bad giants

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<v Speaker 1>and killed them with the help of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>good giants, and then the good giants eventually just died out,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ones that stayed were kind of they hid themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So that makes like you're talking about a good giant

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<v Speaker 2>that helps defeat the bad giants or a good superhuman

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<v Speaker 2>that helps defeat the bad superhumans. It makes me think

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<v Speaker 2>of like Hercules. Yeah, it sounds like Greek mythology, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me think of that, where like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, he's kind of bad, but he like people,

580
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<v Speaker 2>and he goes and kind of love but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of like battling with is he a god?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he not? Because he's better than the other people,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's trying to fit in, but he's you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he goes and he fights all these other

585
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Greek terrible monsters and these bad evil things, and then

586
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you go straight to like Norse, like Viking, same stuff,

587
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<v Speaker 2>thor odin Loki, all the characters from the Marvel comics,

588
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<v Speaker 2>and you kind of have the same exact thing, like

589
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>a guy he's like kind of fallen from his well.

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<v Speaker 1>You got all these these gods that are basically having

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<v Speaker 1>offspring with human women.

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<v Speaker 2>Gods in uh let's Hercules is what we started with.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the byproduct of human and zeus, right, I think so,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, and then there's four. He's not necessarily

595
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<v Speaker 2>the product of that, although Loki was adopted by but

596
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>who does he get the hots for a human apartment? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know they're the same Natalie Portman. Okay, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>in that one. But anyway, but Thor gets banished because

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<v Speaker 2>of his lust for humanity, I think, or no, he's

600
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<v Speaker 2>a little too arrogant, but but he leaves his domain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he like humanity. It's like the same kind of thing

602
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<v Speaker 2>every time. It's not necessarily that Zeus porked Natalie Porkman,

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<v Speaker 2>but that Odin banished Thor for loving Natalie Portman. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's like a weird parallelism. Is that weird?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you think about this, so even if you break.

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<v Speaker 2>It down to Thunder and Lightning and Zeus and Odin

607
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<v Speaker 2>and how they're kind of very similar characters and they

608
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<v Speaker 2>kind of like tear down in the same way, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have frost giants in the Norse mythology, and

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<v Speaker 2>how Odin comes or Loki comes from frost giants and

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's kind of a conquered heirloom or a trophy

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<v Speaker 2>or the beast, the son of It's just weird. How

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the offspring of he's the adopted offspring of

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<v Speaker 1>these dark creatures, these dark gods or whatever they were.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's kind of good, kind of bad. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then but he's adopted by Odin.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the weirdest part. Loki has sex with his mom,

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<v Speaker 2>his adopted mom, I believe. And he has a horse

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<v Speaker 2>with eight legs named Light near that Odin rides. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that has to do with anything. That's

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<v Speaker 2>so messed up. That's that's an example of a rural tradition, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It is well, and you know it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird because you think about all this stuff

625
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<v Speaker 1>and kind of gives you a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>headspin because we live here in what we call reality.

627
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<v Speaker 1>But underneath reality, you know, all this stuff like the

628
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<v Speaker 1>reality of Google and social networking and our govern and structure,

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<v Speaker 1>there is something more sinister under the.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I like to call it the facade,

631
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the Great facade. It's all a facad.

632
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 1>We live in this place, and we like to think

633
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>of certain ways that we've been basically cultured to believe

634
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 1>our entire lives. But underneath that is the subcurrent of

635
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 1>all these weird things that we don't think about very

636
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>much because well, you know, it's crazy and it's for

637
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 1>people on the fringe, people that are out there. But man,

638
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>if you start poking that thing, if you start lifting

639
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the hood on that Cadillac, you start thinking.

640
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, what is going on?

641
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I find it fascinating. I find

642
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a little bit creepy. I don't find it necessarily like scary,

643
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 1>although I think it's wise to have a little bit

644
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>of caution with it. But I do think it's something

645
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 1>that it's not bad to open your eyes to because

646
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you say, something crazy happened, something supernatural happened, something opened up,

647
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 1>something a.

648
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Portal, like in that Avengers movie where like all those

649
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>right and then the giant worm whales come out of

650
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the sky. Yeah, like that, something like that happens. Or

651
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 2>like what if what if like an.

652
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Alien actually showed up an alien, or what if a

653
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot showed up? What if somebody captured a giant that

654
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 1>couldn't phase back into his dimension.

655
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>If he's in a dimension, yeah, he's stuck.

656
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 1>What if there was some kind of weird contact like

657
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that made I know like, if you get into like

658
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the conspiracy sites, people talk about that there are portals

659
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 1>that have been opened between this world and this other

660
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>dimension forever, and that there are basically sub governments, clandestine

661
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>organizations that exist that are doing business with these entities

662
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of these portals, and they're giving

663
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>us all kinds of information and in exchange, we're doing

664
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 1>all these weird things. What if something happened that some

665
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.079
<v Speaker 1>of that was actually real all of a sudden.

666
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it's like that I've mentioned this before, I think,

667
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:10.440
<v Speaker 2>but like that that the episode of is It George F.

668
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Norri Coast to Coast, Yeah, Coast to Coast anaum, George.

669
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Ryan and the guy calls in. He's like, hey, he's

670
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I used to work at Area fifty one, and he's

671
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>all scattered in his voice and he's talking about how

672
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 2>it's interdimensional and how these things and the other dimension

673
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>want them and it's all scary him. And then that's

674
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the only time that the George Noruri show has ever

675
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.639
<v Speaker 2>gone offline. Oh yeah, just yeah, just gonnact And it's like,

676
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>oh boy, something about it that fits this narrative I'm

677
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 2>putting together in my head that is so weird. But

678
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 2>what if that's legit? What if that's actually what?

679
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 3>You know?

680
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 2>What if there is actually some crazy area fifty one

681
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>multi dimensional monster? Yea upside down from stranger things. So

682
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 2>here here's something to think about.

683
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:57.599
<v Speaker 1>I talked a little bit about this in some of

684
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 1>our previous episodes. So the only difference is in the

685
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>difference of the labels that we put on things. If

686
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 1>you add different words all of a sudden, it doesn't

687
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>make much difference. Like for me, I was raised in

688
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a Judeo Christian family, and I have all this these

689
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.159
<v Speaker 1>verbiages that I use or that I was taught to

690
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:21.599
<v Speaker 1>explain certain things. So it had things like angels and demons.

691
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It had things like you know, heaven and Hell. It

692
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>had words about, you know, creatures that were giants and

693
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that were angelic beans that did certain things, and there's

694
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:39.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that were supernatural in that well

695
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Judeo Christian background. Yeah, so all I have to do

696
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>is shuffle that and change the words too. I can

697
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 1>put aliens, I can put bigfoot, I can put giants,

698
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I can put all kinds of stuff. I can put

699
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>inter dimensional portals, I can put UFOs. All of a

700
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>sudden if something showed up in my existence, my reality

701
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>from a different dimension or from outer space, or from heaven,

702
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>or from a portal or from a rapture, they are

703
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>all the same, right, they could be all the same.

704
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>So so my understanding might have a different word, but

705
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the basic component of what it is is still the same.

706
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like if you were to take the

707
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>word ghost, and then you can change that word into spirit.

708
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>You can change that word into demon, and then you

709
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 2>can change the spirit also into your your you take

710
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 2>mohem from spirit, you can go to your consciousness consciousness

711
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and then so spirit can be you, or spirit can

712
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 2>be a demon. But you can go from demon, you

713
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>can go to angel fallen angel, and then you can

714
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 2>go so now a ghost could be an angel, and

715
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>then you know, like all these things kind of tie together,

716
00:41:57.599 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense. Yeah, they totally the same

717
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>same names. They're all the same kind of thing, but.

718
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 1>The same concept with different names.

719
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's all it's all the basic remnant, the

720
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>remnants of consciousness. Yeah. So yeah, it makes total sense

721
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.960
<v Speaker 2>that those things can be in another dimension plane whatever

722
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 2>you want to come.

723
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 1>If you want to totally fall down the rabbit hole,

724
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and you have the concept of simulation. So you know,

725
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.599
<v Speaker 1>the scientists have said, maybe this is all a simulation.

726
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 1>We just exist, we're AI in some super computer. Right,

727
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 1>So what if all of these words, all of these things,

728
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>all of these experiences, all these things that kind of

729
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>tie together, are the same thing in the simulation of

730
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>something that is taking place and transpiring but isn't necessarily

731
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 1>unique to our description in our own existence.

732
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like you're playing the same video game, but you've

733
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>changed the language that the video games get.

734
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Playing language color. You've created your own avatars. So basically

735
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 1>all of those things that could be you know, something

736
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>else in the game, you just basically say, okay, those

737
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>are now these things in the game.

738
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 2>It's to choose your own adventure, but the storyline is

739
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the same.

740
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:19.559
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, and your your AI, your.

741
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, how you make your any like a goblin

742
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 2>or like a Viking troll or a demon hunter, witch

743
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 2>or a goon. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's true.

744
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.800
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like your AI, your existence,

745
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>your creature of whatever you are, is not chosen by you.

746
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>It was chosen for you. So yeah, kiss me, test

747
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you your name.

748
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was chosen for you.

749
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, that gets down to the basic nitty gritty

750
00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.519
<v Speaker 1>of Okay, what is human continent?

751
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Are you on? What condent? Basically? Yeah, kind of yeah?

752
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 1>What kind of what tribe?

753
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.320
<v Speaker 2>What? What condent? What creation? What AI?

754
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you?

755
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 2>How is this story related to you?

756
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 3>You know?

757
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 1>So the development of this AI, or the development of

758
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>your consciousness eventually will if you follow the Judeo Christian narrative,

759
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>will be rebooted. So the difference between you and other

760
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 1>AI is that, if you are human, you were created

761
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 1>in the image of the createur. And what is that image?

762
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:34.119
<v Speaker 1>What does he do?

763
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Well?

764
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>The creator creates, right, So humans create, which is obvious.

765
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:44.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just look at our computer, look at our technology.

766
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>All of these things are on an exponential growth scale.

767
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>They get more and more and more as you go along.

768
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>That is the That is maybe the quality of God

769
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 1>that he is bestowed.

770
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:56.639
<v Speaker 2>He is a.

771
00:44:56.639 --> 00:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Creator, but he's also good, true in all of these things.

772
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>So interject inside of this this uh, well, let's call

773
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it a virus that manipulates and confuses and congests and

774
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 1>destroys and basically changes the AI to become wicked.

775
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that that was a this virus quote

776
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 2>unquote was a planned assault by a hacker quote unquote

777
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 2>that wants to kind of be in God's image, that

778
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>wants to be a creator. And there's a form of jealousy.

779
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:40.400
<v Speaker 2>And these things that weren't created in the image of

780
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.719
<v Speaker 2>the creator are constantly trying to hack their way into

781
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the image of the creator so that they can they

782
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 2>too can create, and they too can be a part

783
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>of this thing that was created. Good because they didn't

784
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 2>receive the same treatment, because they think that's kind of

785
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>what happened.

786
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe those things were not created to be creators but.

787
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Servants maybe, and they didn't like that, and they wanted

788
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 2>to be creators. Imagine, they're trying to hack their way

789
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 2>into a dimension of world where they are creators. So

790
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 2>they're creating their own world. That's all jumbled up because

791
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not good except.

792
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 1>For that their creation, their creativity is actually not creativity.

793
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>It is destructivity. It is the destruction of the creation,

794
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.559
<v Speaker 1>because that is not.

795
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Part of their bad creativity.

796
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the ALTI it's the opposite of creativity.

797
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>No, well they're creating.

798
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>No, in my mind, I mean, I'm just saying that's

799
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.039
<v Speaker 1>that would be so what I'm.

800
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Saying is, because we're talking about Bigfoot, we're talking about

801
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 2>the potential for something to be trying. And that's kind

802
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 2>of what I think both of us. I don't think

803
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we think it's a biological creature that's naturally just good

804
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:02.559
<v Speaker 2>at hiding.

805
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>No, not unless, not unless there was a biological suit

806
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 1>made to house an entity.

807
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Yet, but that wouldn't be a biological thing. You can't

808
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 2>make something biological. It would be tampered with it.

809
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it interesting that if there was something that was

810
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 1>created to be a biological suit, that it would have

811
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to be created by humankind rather than the actual entity

812
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that needed the biological suit. Thus the need might go Okay, sorry.

813
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 2>So we're we're saying it's not a biological, natural animal

814
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 2>that runs around and is good at hiding, right, We're

815
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 2>saying that it's potentially something being used to break its

816
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>way into our world, into our humanity.

817
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Possibly, I mean we are way out there, but yes, possibly.

818
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a group out there that wishes it was

819
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 2>made in the image of the creator, and it's creating

820
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.760
<v Speaker 2>its own messed up version of what is not good

821
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to break into what is good exactly, and it's trying

822
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to form its way into our society, and then you

823
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 2>get reptilian you know, government, and where things are getting

824
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 2>even worse because right now we're off the chains. Yeah,

825
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about cattle mutilation, sasquatch children of cows that

826
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 2>are trying to hack their way into humanity. So one

827
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 2>thing that's weird here. I don't know how else you

828
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 2>can explain, Shaquille O'Neil.

829
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, right, well, so there is you know,

830
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>there are genetic mutations that are obviously not because of

831
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 1>some kind of weird, you know, demonic kind of influence,

832
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 1>but it is weird to think about that. And we're

833
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 1>way down the rabbit hole on this. I mean we

834
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 1>started it like Native American legends Bigfoot, and we're way

835
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 1>down here. But it's fun to and if we've lost you,

836
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 1>I apologize for that because I mean that's kind of

837
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 1>like we went from like a you know, one oh

838
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 1>one all the way down to like graduate level kind

839
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of conspiracy in in geology and all kinds of weird stuff.

840
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.760
<v Speaker 1>But on the surface level, I mean, basically you have

841
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>two options.

842
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<v Speaker 2>A bigfoot.

843
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 1>He's either a biological, natural occurring kind of creature. He's

844
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<v Speaker 1>an animal that has Yeah, he's an animal that has

845
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>no supernatural kind of or he is something other than that.

846
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Now in that other than that, there are several categories

847
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you could subdivide. You could say he's he's a biological

848
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>genetic manipulation.

849
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 2>He could be a chimera.

850
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 1>He could be a synthetic he could be a multi

851
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>dimensional creature. You know, you could you could go down that.

852
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Even a robot. I've heard more like some kind of conspiracy.

853
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Miss well that was a really famous six million dollar

854
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Man episode where he meets the Bigfoot and it's a

855
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>robot Bigfoot. That's a great episode. But false information, like

856
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 1>he could be something.

857
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.559
<v Speaker 5>Just to distract the economy and change people's perception of

858
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:20.000
<v Speaker 5>reality or so get.

859
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Their mind off. Maybe something that's true misinformation.

860
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 2>That's a thing.

861
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 1>But you don't know, You don't know, but we do

862
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 1>know that it's not a modern invention because of our

863
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Native American examples. There are hundreds of them in this book,

864
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 1>right and not. I mean, you don't even have to

865
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.519
<v Speaker 1>get this book, although I would suggest it. I'll put

866
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a link to it on the website and you could

867
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 1>check it out. If you go to our website, there's

868
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a blog that I do that has basically a kind

869
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.079
<v Speaker 1>of a I don't know, it's just a little supplement

870
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to every episode that we do, and it has some

871
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of the links to information that we share or maybe.

872
00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:58.920
<v Speaker 2>The music show content.

873
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I kind of you know, kind of use the

874
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:04.599
<v Speaker 1>fair use license and throw a lot of like little

875
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>musical interludes and things like that in.

876
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Go to our.

877
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Website there links all that stuff. But there's a link

878
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.159
<v Speaker 1>to this book and you can check it out and

879
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:16.159
<v Speaker 1>buy it if you are so inclined. It's awesome and

880
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that's there for you if you need it.

881
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Subscribe to everything we got, Facebook, Instagram, Stitcher, like we

882
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:34.480
<v Speaker 2>said earlier.

883
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 1>And just so you know, there's a lot more coming.

884
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we haven't even scratched the surface on strange things.

885
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like from where we're at right now, we

886
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:48.079
<v Speaker 2>can go all different directions. There's rabbit trails shooting off

887
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:50.199
<v Speaker 2>all over this phone. Oh my gosh. We can talk

888
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 2>about other cryptids, nas nas, mothman aliens, we can talk about.

889
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Hen We could do a topic of every single type

890
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.239
<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot creature across the planet.

891
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Would take us probably eight years. I think it would

892
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 2>take us forever.

893
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Because they're everywhere. We are not short of content.

894
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of strange things in this strange place.

895
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 1>From this place called Earth, but we want to keep

896
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>doing this. We're having good times, we're having fun. You know,

897
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 1>we take a lighthearted approach. Some of this stuff might

898
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>be a little more sinister and might be a little

899
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 1>more serious, but we just trust that there are bigger

900
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 1>and better things for all of us. And you know,

901
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the more we know, the better. And what's that old

902
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:41.639
<v Speaker 1>saying I attributed it to? I know, I heard a

903
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 1>guy named Chuck Missler say this, and he said that

904
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 1>it's for God's glory that he conceals a mystery and

905
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it's for man's privilege to uncover it or discover it.

906
00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:00.599
<v Speaker 2>And I love that saying. So, this creation, if you.

907
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Are so inclined to believe that it is a creation,

908
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 1>or this universe, if you're not inclined to believe it

909
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>has within it tons of mysteries.

910
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And it's.

911
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Not only our privilege, but it's also something innate within

912
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 1>us to discover as humans, as createors.

913
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>What led those people up Lewis and Clark and stuff

914
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to discovery more discovery This podcast as silly as it is,

915
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>is our attempt to do those things and to go

916
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 2>out and discover, and we're creating something as we go.

917
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>But hey, one thing we should do before we wrap

918
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.519
<v Speaker 1>up this episode. I know that we didn't go. I mean,

919
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>there are so many, literally so many stories on Native

920
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:51.079
<v Speaker 1>American mythologies about a big foot type creature.

921
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where to go.

922
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>We could, I mean, we could spend months. I mean,

923
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>this book probably has one hundred or so stories, and

924
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that's just scratching the surface, but they're everywhere to me.

925
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, the whole idea of the concept

926
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 1>of giants, it kind of gets married into the bigfoot

927
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>type thing, although I think they're different in some ways

928
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>because the giants seem to be more even though they're huge,

929
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:22.280
<v Speaker 1>but they're also very human yeah organic, yeah, but Bigfoot

930
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:26.280
<v Speaker 1>tends to be almost beast like. So one thing that

931
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.079
<v Speaker 1>was very interesting I think we touched on in our

932
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 1>last episode was the Provo citing a bigfoot down in

933
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Utah and that there was a connection there with ancient,

934
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 1>well not ancient but old LDS literature. That the Provo

935
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.400
<v Speaker 1>giant had met a fellow and I can't remember his name.

936
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll put it on the website if I look it up.

937
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 1>But basically, this guy walked with the Bigfoot for a

938
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:59.880
<v Speaker 1>while and then Bigfoot basically said hey, I'm I'm Caneir

939
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>basically can't die and that's because I'm Caine. I'm the

940
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>guy who killed Abel and the mark that was given

941
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 1>to me so that people wouldn't kill me was all

942
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>this ugly hair and stuff and basically I've been alive forever.

943
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:17.480
<v Speaker 2>And it can kill the lineage and his life monsters.

944
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that basically they're saying that the descendants of

945
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Cain are or were bigfoot sasquatch crazy. Yeah, so these

946
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>things all over the world are basically the lineage of Cain,

947
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:35.039
<v Speaker 1>and you know, take it for what you will. It's

948
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.320
<v Speaker 1>not official any kind of official LDS doctrine, but it

949
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 1>is there in their folklore right.

950
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I.

951
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Would encourage everybody if you would, we're getting an uptick

952
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:50.039
<v Speaker 1>in listeners. To like us on your favorite podcasting app

953
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.719
<v Speaker 1>or subscribe on your favorite podcasting app. Go to our

954
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Facebook page A Strange Thing Podcast. We have a group

955
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook called A Strange Thing and like us.

956
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Share us. I mean, the more people we.

957
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Can get watching the better and the more things that

958
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 1>we can talk about, and more adventures we can have

959
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and share with you. Right now, we do this totally

960
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.639
<v Speaker 1>for free, for fun, and we love it and we'll

961
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:16.320
<v Speaker 1>keep doing it.

962
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Goofballs.

963
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.559
<v Speaker 1>But if we can get a little bit of revenue

964
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 1>coming in, that would be awesome, because then we could

965
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>go out and maybe go a little further from where

966
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>we are geographically.

967
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, you know, we get some people following us,

968
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.599
<v Speaker 2>get some supporters, we make our way down to Mexico,

969
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Cancoon area, check out chits Anda, that pyramid, yeah, that'd

970
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:41.079
<v Speaker 2>and spend the rest of the time on a resort

971
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 2>doing some deep sea fishing and some yeah, some swim.

972
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.920
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of weird crypts in the ocean, you know. Yeah,

973
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 2>we could if we go to the ocean and we

974
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:55.079
<v Speaker 2>start talking about ocean monsters, I might not like the

975
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 2>ocean anymore. They're just terrifying.

976
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 1>There's just some scary stuff about the ocean.

977
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Eck, there's scary stuff about everything.

978
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 3>You know.

979
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:04.320
<v Speaker 2>You read some of these.

980
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Stories about Bigfoot, and then you read about the number

981
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of people that have gone missing in national parks. That'll

982
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of freak you out because these people will just

983
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:20.039
<v Speaker 1>go disappearing. Nothing has ever found nothing, Ever, what happened

984
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to them?

985
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:22.079
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool, Or they do find it and it's

986
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 2>like their hip was placed gingerly on a rock at

987
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the top of the peak.

988
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Whoa yeah, but at least there they're found. The ones

989
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that weird be on are like this, the ones that

990
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:33.719
<v Speaker 1>have just been like pulled through a portal yep, basically

991
00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 1>the side down yep.

992
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.159
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully we didn't deter you too much with our

993
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Bible babble.

994
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I think most of our audience has probably familiarity with

995
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a Judeo Christian kind of experience, whether they believe.

996
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.039
<v Speaker 2>It or not, I have no idea.

997
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has to come to their own decisions and own

998
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 1>understanding on their own time. Well, anyway, it's been a

999
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.960
<v Speaker 1>fun discussion. I know we kind of diverted and went

1000
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>deep into like some weird territory for a lot of.

1001
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.119
<v Speaker 2>People, but hanging there with us.

1002
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk more about Bigfoot in our next episode.

1003
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure exactly, Austin, where we're going to go on.

1004
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Our next episode. I don't really know either, other than

1005
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be Bigfoot oriented.

1006
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.679
<v Speaker 1>So with that, why don't you close us out with

1007
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.199
<v Speaker 1>the way that only you can.

1008
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 2>I think you guys should join us next time for

1009
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>some cold drinks and some strange

1010
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Some very strange conversation, My guys,