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Speaker 2: Hello? Is this arrow? Yes?
Speaker 1: How are you doing today, Jamie?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and looking forward to sharing a conversation with you,
because now now that that guy that won that big
Album of the Year for Rock Records, you know, it's
it's like all of a sudden, now it's like rock
is back. I'm proving it that it's back. And now
that opens up the door for everybody else to say,
you know what, we've been doing this a while, we're
here as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, there's always room.
Speaker 1: For rock, right there is, And you know what, it
just seems like that it's been you know, blacklisted for
the longest time, and I keep wondering if it's because
the the elders of the rock world just said, look,
we need to go back underground and not make it
so candy coated. And I'm going, okay, I'll go with
something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe, who knows, but I'm glad it's coming back around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, I mean, look at what you're
doing with the exploration. I mean, even with the song Woman,
I mean, w O M A N. I mean, you
really put yourself in this and it's and it's your personality,
it's your vibe, it's yours originally.
Speaker 2: Well thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was a fun song to write,
and for sure, it's definitely me with the whole you know,
I am woman, your roar type of attitude.
Speaker 1: But you what was so funny is that just a
couple of days ago, I was with Gloria steinem and
and and so you know, to to move through that
moment and then to have a conversation with her and
then to be with you. I can totally hear the
energy in your vocal cords as well as your soul
when it comes to Hey, here is what art brings forward.
We can make a difference with things like this.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean I think that you know, if you have
a voice, you got to use it, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, When did you gain the confidence to use that voice?
Because there's a lot of people that are still in
hiding or as I used to say, you're still stuck
in the garage on with that garage.
Speaker 3: Band, right, you know, Er, I'm still working on it,
you know, honestly keeping it real over here.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm you know, it's it's not easy to
always speak up or use your voice or stand for
what you believe in.
Speaker 3: But I think it's important, especially when you have a
platform or you have some type of artistic.
Speaker 2: Outlet, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's what's so beautiful about being an artist and
making music is that you can really, you know, say
things that you want to say and create things you
want to create.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: I I'm still finding that confidence.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a work in progress for me.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look at what you guys are doing.
I mean, you guys are so actively involved. And I
would love to learn more about beat Farm because that
to me sounds like that's an outreach of what you
guys are actually presenting, and you're giving other people the
opportunity to find a platform of their own as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so beat Farm beat Farms pretty cool because it was.
Speaker 2: Started, it was founded and created.
Speaker 3: The band was started and created by a guy named
Troy Wilver, who's our guitarist, and he really wanted to
put a group together, you know, of these veteran musicians,
so all of us have been in the industry a
long time, hence the name OG eight or Original eight or.
Speaker 2: OG's you know, we go way back.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, he wanted to really put something together
and create something that felt.
Speaker 2: That was ours, you know, that wasn't owned.
Speaker 3: By another label, or we weren't being told, you know,
oh it this way or that way. So he created
Beat Farm, his own label in order to do that
and started putting this project together and handpicking musicians and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so beat Farm.
Speaker 3: Itself is really just an extension of you know, it's
a way for us to be able to do what
we want to do and not have to have a
label controlling it all.
Speaker 1: Don't you love that vibe as to where we are
right now in situations like that in the way that
because I mean if you were to take what we're
having to do today and let's say replanted in the
fifties and sixties, I don't think they knew how to
do it as much as we know how to do
it today.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean it's changed so much over the years,
hasn't it.
Speaker 3: With technology and the Internet and really just changed the
industry all around. And I think in some ways, you know,
for the better. In some ways maybe not. I think
we're still trying to figure that out with streaming and stuff.
But yeah, I mean it's just changed so much, and
I think that the Internet and the technology has really
opened up avenues.
Speaker 2: For artists that, you know, don't have that big financial.
Speaker 3: Backing or don't have that label support because you know,
back in the day, it was like if you didn't
have a label and distribution, you were.
Speaker 2: Sol you know.
Speaker 3: But now you can put your stuff out there on
the Internet, and you know, we see these kids blown
up on TikTok and and becoming big artists, and the
labels are coming after them, you know now because of it,
not coming after them, but wanting to sign them because
they've blown up on their own. And a lot of
artists will turn around and be like, Nope, I'm going
to continue to do this independently.
Speaker 1: So interesting that you bring up TikTok and things, because
I'm seeing a big evolutional change, especially right now with
it in the way that even American Idol went on
there and they went to the tiktoks to find out
if there was somebody there and then and then to
see the length of your song. Wa and woman, I
mean three point fifteen. I'm going, oh my god, you
are spot on, because I do these dances where these
kids they don't want to hear a five minute song.
Get me out of here at three point fifteen, and
I'm going, oh my god, Jamie is onto something here.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that was me, but I
think this song just turned out that way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I understand what you're saying. You're right, and
I think that you know, I don't know if it's
a good or bad thing, but you know, tension spans
have lessened.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, with technology, it's like things move
really fast. So I've heard that you got to catch
their attention really quickly these days, you know, on TikTok,
And you're correct, I think in saying that people don't
want to sit there and listen to these long songs
anymore necessarily.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I came from the days of radio
where this newcomer that came on the scene as a
solo performer, I think his name was, oh yeah, George Michael,
That's what it was. Anyway, his songs were like going
five forty and all that, And I'm going, I don't
know about this because it's like, because as a jock
inside that studio, I wasn't my attention span wasn't that long,
and so and to see something like this, it's like,
give me back on that radio, Give me back on
that radio. We need more songs like this when at
three point fifteen.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, And I think isn't radio kind of around
that now these days?
Speaker 2: Anyway? Like three three point thirty.
Speaker 1: Yea, yep, yep, move it, move it, move it, yeah,
as many as we can to get into that hour,
And of course the business side of radio would be, well,
we got to get to a commercial break instead of hey,
let me get you to another good song. So so
that that's what I love about streaming is that it's
about the artist. It's it's about bringing that forward and
making sure that the entire catalog, when it's available, is
readily available for those that are just discovering you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: That is the beauty of it, isn't it that as
a consumer, you could really just have it at your
fingertips and decide, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Want to check this out.
Speaker 3: I want to check this artist out, this album, so
that in that sense it's great.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know about the streaming.
Speaker 3: As far as like royalties and stuff go for the artists,
but I think that's all.
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about that as well, because there
have been many times where I've talked with artists and
I've said, do you want me to promote that you're
on Spotify? And some would go, da, No, not really,
not really, it's not worth what we're going to get
as a return. And so so it's like, okay, so
we're gonna we're going to look for other areas where
we can plant that to where people can find it,
where you guys are getting your bang. Which is the
reason why I want to talk about the merch, because
merch is where it's at, and if people aren't buying
your merch, then how's my band supposed to come to
my town.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, I mean I I've also heard that
merch is so important and and I don't know for
me as an artist, I just love merch because I
love being.
Speaker 2: Creative and trying.
Speaker 3: To get into the fashion and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I love all that.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, you know, you got to you gotta
get all the avenues as an artist.
Speaker 1: Speaking of attractive things in songs, the keyboards in this
really get my attention quickly. Was that the original idea
or was it somebody in the band that said, hey,
I got this idea. Everybody's sitting inside the room with
the engineer and we go, let me just go in
the room and drop down these keys real fast and
let me see if that doesn't really bring something to it?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What was What was the story behind the piano?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay, So our our keyboard player is George Mitchell. He's incredible.
He's been on tourt Dana Ross forever. He's like her
right hand man, you know.
Speaker 3: But he so the way that women came about, in
particular the guys. So I wasn't there with them when
they recorded the song originally they and they were they
were all together in the studio at Troy's house and
they were just jamming out, and I guess the woman,
you know, this Woman's song in particular, It really was
like a one take kind of they were jamming out
and it just naturally came out that way, you know,
because all all the guys in the band are just
monster musicians really, and so yeah, the keys are jamming,
everyone's jamming on it. But from what I was told,
it came up very organic, very quickly, and it was
kind of just a one take, like, hey, let's jam out,
and this is what we got.
Speaker 2: And when I.
Speaker 3: Heard the track, I just loved it, you know, because
it's all bluesy and funky and fun and and the
lyrics really just came quickly to me. You know, I
can just hear the Woman's song and yeah, it just
it just came really quickly and organically in that in
that sense.
Speaker 1: Is it because you you live by that word recognize,
You recognize the power behind this song. Therefore you you
anticipated to activate your love for this song.
Speaker 3: I love that, you know, it wasn't that calculated, to
be honest with your thought out the whole recognized catchphrase,
you know, I kind of say it jokingly but not
you know, me and my friends will use it like hey, recognize.
Speaker 2: You know, and it's really about like just giving respect. Yeah.
So with woman, like.
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I from personally, I you know,
I'm all about the girls. I want to empower the
women of course, always like that is very much my personality.
Speaker 2: And so when I heard the music and I just it.
Speaker 3: Just started coming out, you know, and it was just
a really fun, like empowering song and feeling and kind
of tongue.
Speaker 2: In cheek, tongue in cheek but kind of not at
the same time. You know, I am being very serious
about what I say, but also having fun with it.
And so the whole recognized thing.
Speaker 3: I just threw that in at the end, and again
it was almost like a joke. But then we were like,
let's keep it because this is just fun, you know.
Speaker 1: No it's a hot word. No no, no, no, no, no,
you know that could be part of your merch man.
Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's going to be at some point. Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1: So what is it like for you though, Because I
mean your guys's mantra is basically don't rely on record labels.
And you know you're going to meet all those fans
and those other people that, you know, the armchair quarterbacks
of music there say well, you got to do this,
you got to do this. You ever just look at
them and just kind of giggle and want to slip
off your shoes and say, walk at least twenty five
feet in my shoes and get back to me.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, everyone is going to have an opinion, right,
I'm sure with anything we do. But you know, I
think it's just I think it's just about empowering yourself,
you know, as an artist and as a bandon and
just doing what you want to do. And I think
taking with a grain of salt, you know, anyone that
has anything to say, Like, I'm open to hearing people's right,
you know, constructive stuff obviously, but at the end of
the day, you got to trust your intuition. You got
to trust yourself and just put out what feels.
Speaker 2: Good to you. I think ultimately that's the that's the key.
Speaker 1: How are the live crowds reacting to woman in the
way that I mean, you knew what it was like
to be inside that studio to drop those vocal tracks,
and now when you drop them inside a live audience,
it's like, what is it the same vibe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun and.
Speaker 3: We've actually, you know, our last show we closed with
that song because it's just such a it's yeah, it's
and it's such a fun song, and it also has
a lot of room for the guys to have solos
and just play around with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was a very kind of just fun, empowering.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, we want to end on a high
note and they leave people feeling good at the end
of the show, you know, so it was kind of
the perfect song to just round it out. And everyone's
clapping and you know, I'm getting the women singing, so
you know, it's a fun song.
Speaker 1: Well it's to end the night with it, of course,
not because I've experienced the song. So therefore it's like
I'm going, wait a second, if that was the last song,
I would still be that guy watching probably the roadies
take the stage down, going they're coming out for one
more song. I know they are. They're coming out here.
Speaker 2: Well, I will definitely have one in my back pocket
next time.
Speaker 1: Oh you are, just come out there and you know,
and and just sit on the edge of the stage
like a Mickey Gilly or somebody like that, and just
you know, just sit there and just sing to the people,
you know, I mean, because because fans are what supports
your system of growth, right.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you don't really have anything if you
don't have you know, fans or listeners or some quarters.
Speaker 2: So super important. Obviously, please do not move.
Speaker 1: There's more with Jimmie Lynch from OG eight the Original
eight coming up next. The name of the song is
woman Woma and they're currently working on their second album.
Let's get back into that conversation with Jimmy Lynch of
OG eight. What about the studio now? Are we talking
about that? It's in someone's room? In other words, it
can be one of those who like, like, for instance,
when people say, what is it like to go into
the studio? I walk twelve feet? And they go, what
I have to drive for hours? I walk twelve feet? Okay,
So what about you guys?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, so we're really lucky because Joy Weliver, the guy,
the guitarist who created the band, he has this wonderful
studio set up in his home and so and he's
you know, he's invested a lot into it. So that
we could do this because we really love the whole
home atmosphere vibe, you know, just to reach Hill. I
feel like it kind of takes the pressure off as
far as like we can go in there and just
take our time and experiment and try different things, and
so you're not on the clock, you know, at like
a studio and I got to get this done.
Speaker 2: In an hour, you know.
Speaker 3: And for me it's been very freeing and you know,
as a creative because I can go in there and
and try different things.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's try this way. Oh no, I didn't like that,
Let's do it again. And you know, and.
Speaker 3: We've really tried to keep it within that home studio
because it has that family vibe, because it has that
magic to it that just takes you know, it just
just allows us to be free and creative.
Speaker 1: Have you had a spinal tap moment inside that studio
in the way that I remember I was impersonating car
commercials and I was in there just grinding my vocal
cords before singing. Blew it. They got paid. I didn't
get to sing that day because I blew it. It
was a spinal tap moment.
Speaker 2: Oh no, what do you mean? You blew its?
Speaker 1: Yeah. You sit there and you're going this car sale
is going on right now. Now go sing a love song.
You can't. You can't, Oh you can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally and yes, no, And actually I just came
back yesterday from recording. We're in the studio right now
recording our second album. And but to what you were saying, yes,
so there's you know, certain songs that are softer, So
I made sure I started with those, and then they're
really hard rock, really hard rock song, which I'm very
excited about. But but I'm you know, I'm up there
like really belting and screaming my face off, and so
I saved that to the end because obviously I don't
want to blow out my voice.
Speaker 1: But ye, yeah, yeah, because I'm always thinking about John
Lennon when he did Twist and Shout and he said
that was the hardest song for him to ever sing.
But yet as listeners on this side, all these years later,
I'm not hearing any struggling. He'll tell you differently.
Speaker 3: Though, interesting and maybe it was where it was placed
in his voice or his register, you know, souse. That
can be difficult if it lands in a particular place.
Speaker 1: I'm sure as you know, absolutely, and then healing time.
My god, I mean there are I'm losing out on
commercial money when I when I thrash my vocal cords.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: You gotta sometimes arrest it and just stop talking from.
Speaker 1: What are you doing to keep those vocals nice and
you know in tune? Because I mean you do you
do exercise your voice and go in so many different
directions with the music of OG eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're kind of all over the place.
Speaker 3: And then you know, I write these like really crazy
vocal songs. I'm like, what I write like this, But
I love to just sult my face off and be crazy.
Speaker 2: But to answer your question, yes, so I always when
I'm in the.
Speaker 3: Studio, I'm always drinking like room temp water never cold
obviously tea with honey, you know, and just trying to
get a lot of sleep and make sure I'm you know,
doing what I need to do.
Speaker 2: But nothing really more than that. You want to make
sure you warm up really good?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and then you know, truthfully, I'll slip sip
on a little bit of whiskey here and there if
I need it.
Speaker 1: No, I totally get yeah, because I mean a lot
of a lot of these young adults. And this is
not a judgment call, but but they'll they'll sit there
and they'll think, I don't need to warm up, I
don't need to do this, and you look at them, going, dude,
that's that's going to hit you on a day that
you're going to need it. And because you did not
put that in your daily discipline, You're you're done. It's
going to catch up to you too quickly, gotcha.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a muscle that you have
to condition, you know, so if you're not using it
all the time, you lose it.
Speaker 2: You know, like working out, you got.
Speaker 3: To build that muscle and get that get those repetitions
and get that strength.
Speaker 2: And you know, everyone's different.
Speaker 1: Who in the band has got the job of having
to keep the Internet up to date? Because that's what
I love about today's musicians is the fact that everybody's
got a job. It's not what they had in the
seventies and eighties. Buddy, everybody's got a job.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, So that would be Drew Kenny Lett.
Speaker 3: He's our engineer and producer and so he's the guy
I call him the Wizard, you know, because he's back
there just you know, working all the gear and the
computer and the mixing. And I don't even know how
he does it, but he's so fast and it's so great.
Speaker 2: But that would be him for sure.
Speaker 1: Tell me you would not like to get behind his
board sometime just for the fun of it.
Speaker 3: If I knew, I knew what to do. Heck yeah,
but I he has so many things going on. I
don't even know where to begin that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the fun part, discovering it going. You mean
this button does what are you kidding me? Really?
Speaker 3: I thought, wow, yeah, completely, And you know I have
like a little tiny home, very tiny home studio. I'm
not a producer, but he means but trying to you know,
do some on my own. And I'm like, wow, this
is so so much to know and so much to do.
Speaker 2: Is I have a.
Speaker 3: Huge respect for but you know, producers and engineers do
back there well.
Speaker 1: To me, it's it's like when you're sitting there, how
does that guy that's playing the guitar sing. That's two
different things at the same time. I don't get them
in We're gonna do this differently, We're gonna break it up.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 3: I Yeah, I don't know how someone can sit there
and sing and play and do all the things or
play drums and sing.
Speaker 2: It's I don't get wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah get that. Wow. So what's going on
on the road. Are you guys going to go out
this spring? What's what's happening so the people can get
ready for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So we are, Like I said, we are in the
studio right now trying to finalize the second album, but
we're gearing up think around June May or June. Our
team is actively working behind the scenes right now and
you know, setting up some shows and stuff like that.
So I don't have a specific date to give you yet,
but we are gearing up for sure for the summer.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I've learned from every comedian that
I share a conversation with, and that is is that
that moment before you hit that everybody hits the bathroom.
And I've always believed it's because you need that one
more look in the mirror. Who do you see in
that mirror before you hit that stage.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's interesting that you say that.
Speaker 3: I'm laughing at the bathroom comment, because of course that's
so true and for me, I feel like I get
nervous and I feel like I need to use the restroom,
but I don't. I make sure I'm on that stage. So,
you know, for me personally, I can only speak for myself.
But before I'm getting on that stage, I just try
to really get out of my head and just into
my body and just trust my voice and the trust
the process, you know, because I found that if I'm
too much in my head about it, like oh, what
are my lyrics?
Speaker 2: One of my feet?
Speaker 3: You know, I'll freak myself out and that's when I'll
mess up. So when I find myself kind of spiraling
out a little bit, I just say, okay, stop it,
get in your body, trust.
Speaker 2: Yourself, just go because you know what you're doing, you know.
And then you just get on stage and you just
don't think. You just have to trust your body and
just let loose, you know.
Speaker 1: Is there a celebration food after the show? My wife
and I always hit Taco.
Speaker 2: Bell That's the perfect spot. Yeah, sometimes not the greatest,
but of course. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Usually after show you're hungry and oh, you know, I
want to wind down, have some food, maybe a drink,
you know, hang out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to kind of get back into that mode.
You going, oh, that's right, I'm a regular person. Oh
that Oh wow, I totally forgot that. This is what
I do just for the fun of it. Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's so much of an energy exchange
during a show, and so it's very physical and when
you come off stage, it's like you kind of just
need that that breath of just like wind down and
chill out for a minute, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, see, that's the reason why I like to put
away the equipment because it gives me that chance to
put everything away and you're playing everything all over again
inside your head, but it doesn't matter. You're putting your
toys away because that's what your dad told you to do,
so it'll be there the next time you open up
that box.
Speaker 2: That's right, exactly. Yeah, and what a great time to
do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Okay. Where can people go to find out
more about you, Jamie? Because I want them to find you,
follow you and put you on their list.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you can go to our website www. Original Eightofficial
dot com and everything is linked on our website, so
you can find all of our socials, you can find
all of my socials. You know, every band member their
bio like everything you can find out about the band,
but you can also find us on whatever. You know,
your favorite streaming platform is under Original eight and I
believe OG eight as well.
Speaker 2: And then of course social media.
Speaker 3: We have Facebook, Instagram and TikTok and YouTube and most
of those are ogate official.
Speaker 2: In Instagram is og eight underscore Original eight.
Speaker 1: Wow, you just sent me back about fifty sixty years
to when you were talking about the every place that
you are with social media, because you know, we've all
seen the movies of the Patsy Klines of the World
and the Loretta Lynz where they had to go from
radio station to radio station. Now look at what you
have for a platform. It's like, Okay, where am I not?
Because I will be there if you give me ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that again.
Speaker 3: That's what's so amazing about the technology, right, is that
we're able to connect like this or connect you know,
someone can go and find you on social media, whereas
back in the day, you know, there was very limited
ways to connect with an artist or a band.
Speaker 2: So in that regard, I think it's it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Wow, you've got to come back to this show anytime
in the future, especially when you drop that that new
next album number two. And the reason why is because
I like to break music down and if your heart's
open for it, I mean, that's how I get to
know more about the music. I get to know more
about the band, who did what in the song. That's
part of the love for the music of a band.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would love to come back. Thank you so much.
I'd be honored to come back, of course.
Speaker 1: Excellent. Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2: Okay, I will try my best. You two and have
a wonderful day. And thank you so much Ero for
having me.