Speaker 1: From morecast Connect and aj Benza fame. Uh, he'd liked
Speaker 1: to be walking on a leash and play really dirty,
Speaker 1: kinky sex games. He's uh the guy put the cock
Speaker 1: in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, hey, everybody, aj Benz here,
Speaker 1: what the fame is? A bitch? This is your daily
Speaker 1: Unfiltered podcast for June twenty fifth, twenty twenty six, six
Speaker 1: two five two oh two six as we know June
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, Wow, big day. Michael Jackson dies. Farah Fawcet
Speaker 1: dies my ex girl from Rebecca Soto's birthday. Oh my god, craziness.
Speaker 1: I haven't reached Rebecca. I've called her, I've reached out
Speaker 1: to her through Facebook. She loved Jack so much, the
Speaker 1: whole Puerto Rican connection. I mean, she was just love Papa, Papa.
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Papa? It's like a daughter. She loved him.
Speaker 1: And I'm not to make this another I'm not gonna cry.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. Today's okay. We've got to
Speaker 1: get back to life, all right, back to life, like
Speaker 1: the song says, back to reality. It sucks, but we
Speaker 1: all gotta get through it. And I woke up this morning.
Speaker 1: It was a rough night, just a The last few
Speaker 1: days have been rough. I don't even know what we've eaten.
Speaker 1: I haven't cooked. I threw a pizza. And it's like
Speaker 1: I said to Rocco, you know what, brother, I gotta disappear.
Speaker 1: I know that I gotta go away for a couple
Speaker 1: of days. In my own head, I know that it's okay.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll be all right. And he was, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll wake up this morning feeling worse for wear, you know,
Speaker 1: just so much crying, too much st you know. And
Speaker 1: he's up already. It's what are you doing? He's all,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go work with my friend. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: detailed cars. Wait a minute, what are you doing? No,
Speaker 1: his father got him a power washer, and we're going
Speaker 1: to go around and find people who want their cars done.
Speaker 1: I said, fucking good for you. That's great fun, some
Speaker 1: good old fashioned American young boy ingenuity. Get out there
Speaker 1: and meet people. Hey, you want your call washed? You know,
Speaker 1: that's just a great thing. It's fuck I mean, remember
Speaker 1: when we were kids. I don't know how many of
Speaker 1: you did what I did, but you know we had
Speaker 1: paper routes, right, and the paper out back then back
Speaker 1: then meant to. You would drive your bicycle up to
Speaker 1: the front door. Usually the screen door was you know,
Speaker 1: was hoping. It was just like you're yelling collect collect
Speaker 1: the dollar forty, you know, and they come to the
Speaker 1: door and his two weeks. So you put it in
Speaker 1: your book. Okay. You know it was like you learned business.
Speaker 1: You know, you threw them the paper. They gave you
Speaker 1: the money. You know, when we relieved those people's houses,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like winter time and missus hogwan, you
Speaker 1: got someone to shovel the driveway when it snows next week.
Speaker 1: I don't know. My husband's out of town. Would you
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah, I'll do it. Five bucks? All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: when the snows, I'll come back. And that was what
Speaker 1: we did. We made money. We swept, we shoveled driveways
Speaker 1: or mode lawns, and we all put all money together.
Speaker 1: I got ten, you got fifteen. Now we can have
Speaker 1: some fun tonight, you know. So I'm very happy that
Speaker 1: my son is thinking along those lines. You know. Uh,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that you know, their grandfather, for all
Speaker 1: practical purposes, is gone. He was my father to a degree,
Speaker 1: but you know that was Papa, that was their granddad.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm very happy with my son that
Speaker 1: that last summer we went to Chicago and he got
Speaker 1: a chance to see, you know, how ill Jack was getting,
Speaker 1: and he would hold his arm and walk to the pool.
Speaker 1: We went to a public pool with the kids, and
Speaker 1: I just seems, even though it's a horrible vision to see,
Speaker 1: how do you not feel good about that that the
Speaker 1: little human you're raising understands toppani's my help, he needs
Speaker 1: my arm on his arm. It's just God, those are
Speaker 1: the greatest moments of help being a parent, when your
Speaker 1: kid just surprises you with you know, like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Do that. That's amazing. Good for you, buddy.
Speaker 1: And uh kind of got me out of my adulgums.
Speaker 1: I really because I'm like, you know, in two three
Speaker 1: days of you know, I'm not really watching TV. I'm
Speaker 1: not really eating, I'm just laying in bed, I'm crying.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to cousins and talking a row. It's a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I still have to talk to Joey. I've left the messages.
Speaker 1: I know he's taking it hard. He's not called me back.
Speaker 1: You know, I have to respect that, you know, my
Speaker 1: buddies of course, Kenny, Mike. You know, they ran on
Speaker 1: the phone, and it's really nice when you know that
Speaker 1: the guys you grew up with care and they just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on in Pale You're you know, just it's
Speaker 1: a really nice feeling, like it's a warm, good feeling
Speaker 1: that there's guys in your life that that got your
Speaker 1: back when ship goes bad, you know. And I'm a
Speaker 1: headway with Michael Lewittis. I had a long conversation with him,
Speaker 1: and again I apologize if I've said this already. I
Speaker 1: don't remember. The last two or three days has been.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even remember what I said when
Speaker 1: I did. I've been you know, I've been like blind
Speaker 1: walking around and I talked to Michael, you know, my
Speaker 1: ex partner, and great conversation. We laughed so hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: the things he remembers about the daily news are the
Speaker 1: things we did. You're gonna die when he comes on.
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about remember we used to send
Speaker 1: people hands. We would just send random people hands, so stupid,
Speaker 1: and then we'd walk onto an elevator, you know. And
Speaker 1: I think I've said this before, and you know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take the elevator down for a couple of stories,
Speaker 1: and as we get out, Michael will go, you know
Speaker 1: that's why I think Hitler was misunderstood. And we'd walk
Speaker 1: out and you know that people behind us are just like,
Speaker 1: what did I just hear Hitler was misunderstood? Yeah? You know, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: that was maligned. He's not. You know, we would say
Speaker 1: this shit to people they didn't know. Michael. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a Jew. He's very proud of the fact that
Speaker 1: he's a Jew. Matter of fact, when I called him,
Speaker 1: he picks up and I go, Jesus was a Jew
Speaker 1: and he killed they killed, And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, keep talking. Yep, you're right, you know. And
Speaker 1: then we got into it, and you know, Michael went
Speaker 1: to Yale, had a great fucking job at a public
Speaker 1: relations firm, and suddenly one day tells me, I'd love
Speaker 1: to work with you and Linda, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You got a great jo just I don't want to
Speaker 1: you know, I want to do gossip. Really yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: talk to Linda, and I got it, you know, I
Speaker 1: got him involved and got him on the team, and
Speaker 1: we're talking yesterday the other day and I'm like Michael,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you left that world for our world
Speaker 1: as his best thing. Every did I said, wasn't it
Speaker 1: didn't me? How great? How fucking fun were those six
Speaker 1: or seven years. I mean, give me a goddamn no
Speaker 1: one could could replicate what we did. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 1: I said, tell me, tell me stories, because sometimes I
Speaker 1: think I'm just talking to myself and I'm maybe making
Speaker 1: shit up or remembering things differently. He's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: and they'll tell me things that are even crazier, like
Speaker 1: that happened, what you don't remember it? No, I can't
Speaker 1: believe this. Yeah, yeah, you did that. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Michael will be thinking. And then I said, you know,
Speaker 1: you had that little gir cute girlfriend, Marlene got She
Speaker 1: was so cute. And you know, Michael, I've said this before.
Speaker 1: Funny guy, great writer. He pulled a lot of pretty girls,
Speaker 1: he really did. He had a lot of lookers, you know.
Speaker 1: And there was the one girl, Christine Lanagano, who was
Speaker 1: Mayor Juliani's right hand man. She was I forgot her title,
Speaker 1: but she was everything to Juliani to the point where
Speaker 1: she was fucking him, and Michael was banging her too,
Speaker 1: And at the same time, I'm banging Ronald Reagan's daughter,
Speaker 1: Patty Davis, and I'm like, does anybody who else is
Speaker 1: doing this? He would laugh. So I said, you with
Speaker 1: the fucking mayor's girlfriend, and what the president's thought? Who's
Speaker 1: the nobody? Oh my god, Michael, you know what a ball.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna come on, but he said, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: looking for work. He says, you know, I sold Gossip Cop.
Speaker 1: He had this website you know where he would like
Speaker 1: it's called gossip Cop. Maybe ten years ago he started it,
Speaker 1: maybe longer, and he would like shoot down rumors that
Speaker 1: were being printed. But I remember saying, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: want to do this forever. You're just shooting down rumors.
Speaker 1: He goes, now, you're right, I didn't, but I sold it.
Speaker 1: Made some money on the field, okay, he said, But
Speaker 1: right now I'm looking for work. So I want to
Speaker 1: do your show, but I got to be careful what
Speaker 1: I say. I go, yeah, God really, He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for work. I said, what the fuck has happened?
Speaker 1: We were such stars and both of us are looking
Speaker 1: for work and we have to be concerned about what
Speaker 1: we said in the past or what's on our social media.
Speaker 1: Gave me a fucking break. He's like, I know, this
Speaker 1: is it. Michael was sixty four, he's sixty three. What
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? I don't know age, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's it's bad. Fuck, this is insane.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're all doing that, you know, not all,
Speaker 1: but some of us are doing it. And it's it's
Speaker 1: not the easiest thing in the world. How many people
Speaker 1: hiring sixty four year old conservative white guys. They're just
Speaker 1: not doing it. So we gotta figure it out. You know.
Speaker 1: It's coming down to that that life has changed. The
Speaker 1: world is the world has changed, as you guys know.
Speaker 1: It's a very different place it used to be even
Speaker 1: a few years ago. I'm watching fucking TV today. I'm
Speaker 1: putting on Netflix and some good shows I'm laughing at
Speaker 1: and I see you like an ad for Well coming soon.
Speaker 1: It's a podcast show with this girl I don't even
Speaker 1: know it, Layley, Layley, Ellie Ellie. And she's got all
Speaker 1: these people in her bed. I'm like, what how did
Speaker 1: she get a Netflix? So? Who is this? Who wants
Speaker 1: to hear her talk? To married people in her bed.
Speaker 1: We did this years ago. We did the bed interviews.
Speaker 1: We did it. Michael Hutchins's you Know What's to name
Speaker 1: was a fucking tiger. Lily the crazy bitch, she did it.
Speaker 1: She had a big show for years from England. She
Speaker 1: would talk to people in bed. I did it too.
Speaker 1: I've done the same thing. Like it's back again. You're
Speaker 1: gonna put people in her bedroom? Yeah? And who is
Speaker 1: Layley the I can't who is this was supposed to
Speaker 1: think she's the next star? Really? Come on, man, don't don't.
Speaker 1: Don't allow all this bullshit to happen. I know there's
Speaker 1: a little we could do. We can't change the course
Speaker 1: of Hollywood and who gets hired. But don't have to
Speaker 1: like them, don't follow them, don't talk about them, don't
Speaker 1: make them interesting. Just walk away these fucking assholes. Oh god,
Speaker 1: you know I'm watching. You know I got a call.
Speaker 1: I got many of you called and texted me. You're
Speaker 1: so sweet and concerned about me and I You know,
Speaker 1: I cherish all of you for reaching out to me.
Speaker 1: And ZeVA the Great ZeVA Palmer texted me, you know
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about your hum but blah, Papa and she goes, hey,
Speaker 1: you know that that showed your show about Jack killed me.
Speaker 1: It really wrecked me. Oh my god. You know, she
Speaker 1: lost her husband a couple of years ago, so she's
Speaker 1: still you know, you just you're ripe, you're wide you're wounded,
Speaker 1: you're wide open. Right. We talk about living with the ache, right, Well,
Speaker 1: she's still living with the ache, and she's never gonna
Speaker 1: not live without the ache. That's it, that's life, that's
Speaker 1: what he's owed. And I says, you know, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I saw a clip of al Pacino in the movie
Speaker 1: Injustice for All and Justice for All, and I'm telling ZeVA,
Speaker 1: I grew up in a house. It was a fucking opera.
Speaker 1: One minute, we could be screaming on each other, fuck you,
Speaker 1: the next minute collapsing in each other's arms in love.
Speaker 1: You know we did. That's how my family was like that,
Speaker 1: just just every every emotion was a hair away. It's
Speaker 1: why I like to act, because I can summon up
Speaker 1: those emotions so quickly. You know, I could cry on
Speaker 1: a dime. I could get angry, you fucking name it.
Speaker 1: I watched people do this on Instagram. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: need you know, you need thirty seconds to get angry
Speaker 1: or sarcastic. What the fuck is? Just come out with
Speaker 1: it now now as good as me. They're not. Well,
Speaker 1: it was I I'm so all over the place. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: so I said to ZeVA, I said, yeah, I grew
Speaker 1: up in an opera, man, it was that was my house.
Speaker 1: And then I see this clip of al Pacino going
Speaker 1: bananas and he's telling the whole courtroom that the guy
Speaker 1: he's representing is a piece of shit. He's got able
Speaker 1: to jail and you're out of or this whole courtrooms out,
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing. He's spitting, you know,
Speaker 1: his emotional his lips are wet, and a lot of us,
Speaker 1: you know, think about Robert de Niro as the greatest
Speaker 1: Italian actor, and I DeNiro has done tremendous movies. I
Speaker 1: hate his politics, but fuck if he's not a great actor.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Pacino's more us. There's nothing understated
Speaker 1: about Pacino. He talks loud like, he just gets into it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't let any you know, parameters make him do less.
Speaker 1: He just he's very you know what he's just I
Speaker 1: love that he's just so out front. And I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I've told his story, and uh, I was
Speaker 1: a and we're fighting about Trump whatever the fuck. And
Speaker 1: she went to the bathroom and she leaves crying, and
Speaker 1: Pacino's with this girl. By the way, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: another baby now, he's this is insane. And Bill Maher
Speaker 1: takes this girl out too. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: I know, but she's pregnant again. Okay, So his girl
Speaker 1: leaves to the bathroom, car leaves. They're both crying, and
Speaker 1: he looks at me and it was a great moment
Speaker 1: and what are you gonna do? Like he gave me that,
Speaker 1: like what can we do? And then I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe three four months later, walking down the village and yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Oh god, I wish you, I wish you.
Speaker 1: Guys knew the village so so great. And I'm walking
Speaker 1: out Cornelia Street, a little tiny street with some coffee shops,
Speaker 1: and okay, I'll get some coffee. You sit outside, and
Speaker 1: there's Paccino sitting outside. I says, hey, remember me, our
Speaker 1: girlfriends were both right in the bedroom. What else is new?
Speaker 1: You know? I just he understood it. He got it.
Speaker 1: He's a regular guy, he says, you know, the one thing.
Speaker 1: You can't do. I'm not doing his voice right, you can't.
Speaker 1: It's like he was so like just full of knowledge
Speaker 1: for me. You know, he didn't even know me. You
Speaker 1: can't change them. They change us, like just so loud,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, no, you're right, you know. And
Speaker 1: I told him his story about when I was with
Speaker 1: Jennifer and we went to see American Buffalo on Broadway
Speaker 1: and how brilliant it was. We waited by the stage
Speaker 1: door and I left the play and I got my
Speaker 1: mos to RX seven. I parked it on the street.
Speaker 1: But you can't do because you get tickets, you get towed.
Speaker 1: It's time square and I'm sitting there and we're waiting
Speaker 1: for him to come out. The car's purring because you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna jump in a town car and go
Speaker 1: back to Jersey or whatever fuck he lives. Sure enough,
Speaker 1: he comes out of that door, the stage door, and
Speaker 1: he sees me, he and my wife. Immediately, he makes
Speaker 1: a beeline to us, gives me a hug, gives my
Speaker 1: wife a kiss. We love you al like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just fanning all over him. And he gets in
Speaker 1: the car and we're right behind him, and I'm following him,
Speaker 1: and my wife is dying. My god, he's right there
Speaker 1: and red light. We go next to him. He's not looking.
Speaker 1: Honk the horney looking the next one. Red light again,
Speaker 1: I stopped. I rolled away. Heyl, come on, look at us.
Speaker 1: He smiles, he looks. I said, my wife just wants
Speaker 1: to give you a kiss. She loves you, all right,
Speaker 1: you know what? Okay, next light, if it's red. We
Speaker 1: got a deal, and it was red, and he jumped
Speaker 1: out of the car. She hugged him, she kissed him.
Speaker 1: Just just what life. The nero doesn't do that shit.
Speaker 1: He's not that guy. Paccino was like, whatever you want,
Speaker 1: so great, And you know I mentioned uh a lot
Speaker 1: of you. Some of you said, you know, I love
Speaker 1: what you talked about living with that ache. What it
Speaker 1: means to have an ache in your heart for someone
Speaker 1: you love who's gone. And it's really important to live
Speaker 1: with those aches. You just can't act like you know,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's actually preferable for you to be in
Speaker 1: pain because you lost a loved one. Well, why would
Speaker 1: you want to be regular? Why would you want to
Speaker 1: walk and get over your day like nothing happened. No,
Speaker 1: that says nothing to them. You want to be there
Speaker 1: for this spirit, their soul, what they gave you. You want
Speaker 1: to be hurt. It's okay, I've given I've given Kelly
Speaker 1: Osbond a lot of shit because of her weight and
Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, zampig plus drugs. And she
Speaker 1: keeps saying my dad, and I'm so depressed of my dad,
Speaker 1: And I start to feel bad for him, Like why
Speaker 1: am I talking shit about it? You know, her father
Speaker 1: did die and he was a legend, and yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that's fucking at his little girl. Of course, he's
Speaker 1: bigger than bigger than anything. Yeah, she's gonna be fucked
Speaker 1: up for a while, you know. And she wrote or
Speaker 1: said this to somebody that just exactly what I said
Speaker 1: the other day. I lived with that ache. I want
Speaker 1: to be in pain. I want to feel in pain
Speaker 1: because my father's gone. That's what he's old. I just
Speaker 1: said this. Now I'm crazy about Kelly as one. Although
Speaker 1: I did love the picture of her the lavender hair.
Speaker 1: I thought she was so fucking pretty. I'm like, God, damn, Kelly.
Speaker 1: That was a while ago. But now she just just
Speaker 1: like she's, you know, an old lady in a wig.
Speaker 1: That's too big, and her fucking face is thin, her
Speaker 1: body's shrunken. Uh, you know, sad. We all go through shit.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say a few more things, but I
Speaker 1: didn't say yesterday that are funny, And into the show
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I should have said that. I should
Speaker 1: have said this. When we used to go fishing, I
Speaker 1: mentioned jack threw the umbrella rig into the water and
Speaker 1: caught a couple of fluke and he had so many hooks,
Speaker 1: five six hooks with different bait, and my father hated it.
Speaker 1: My father would say, there he goes the fucking Puerto
Speaker 1: Rican rig. Go ahead, jack throw the fucking Puerto Rican rigging.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna get? And then Jackie started doing
Speaker 1: the Puerto Rican rig. It was like a thing you're
Speaker 1: gonna we control, or you want to just throw a
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican rig, Let's just do a Puerto Rican ring.
Speaker 1: It became a thing like it's completely acceptable, not umbrella rig,
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican rig. This is what we did. And you know,
Speaker 1: he was a great fisherman, and Frankie was Frankie is
Speaker 1: a great fisherman. We were together a few summers ago
Speaker 1: at Long Island and when a party built the three
Speaker 1: of us, and it was a great time. I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen him and we got together, weren't fishing at six
Speaker 1: am on a party boat, and Frankie won the pool.
Speaker 1: We got the biggest fluke. And there's some things don't change,
Speaker 1: but to hear the seagulls and to smell the water
Speaker 1: and the bait, and it was good to be back
Speaker 1: on the isle and remember that the sights and sounds,
Speaker 1: and I want to go back. I just I can't
Speaker 1: believe what New York has become. I can't believe the
Speaker 1: primaries yesterday, all these fucking Muslim socialist motherfuckers who are
Speaker 1: now running New York or I can't believe what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: And I'm really, I really feel bad, like you this
Speaker 1: What else can we say? You've got to fight. You
Speaker 1: can't just keep taking this. I was talking to Michael, right,
Speaker 1: Michael's a proud Jew, okay, and he's like, Aj, you
Speaker 1: have no idea. It's really fucking scary, Like everything is
Speaker 1: that people were in a kafea and you can't talk
Speaker 1: about your being Jewish, can't. It's fucking hunting season. I'm like, Michael,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this shit. What happened? To New York.
Speaker 1: It's over. Uh. Yeah. The Puerto Rican rig was great.
Speaker 1: And I remember one day, just to give you a
Speaker 1: fishing story. We're out under the bridge, right. We used
Speaker 1: to go crab it under the bridge with the lights
Speaker 1: and flashlights, and us and another fucking one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty boats were doing the same thing, driving in and
Speaker 1: out of pilings, looking for blue cloth crabs on top
Speaker 1: of the water, scooping them over with your net with
Speaker 1: the flashlight. It was great. We used to fill a
Speaker 1: whole garbage can full of crabs. Crazy, crazy, Oh, it
Speaker 1: was so good. And you know, we poured them in
Speaker 1: the sink. They'd fall of the sink, they beat them
Speaker 1: the floor, they'd run away sideways. You'd find one under
Speaker 1: the couch, you know, they just it was so plentyful
Speaker 1: back then. The ocean, the bay provided, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I provided. And we're under the bridge one night, you know,
Speaker 1: we're looking for crabs and we got the flashlights and
Speaker 1: Frankie Jack sees at the bottom at the end of
Speaker 1: the bridge the water was like four foot deep. He
Speaker 1: sees a fluke. He sees this big we'll call him dormat.
Speaker 1: A doormat fluke is laying because we saw like his
Speaker 1: little spots on his body. It's right there. He's like,
Speaker 1: I gotta get this fluke. He puts the net in
Speaker 1: the water and he scoops it up, and I remember
Speaker 1: it to this day. It was half in the net,
Speaker 1: half not and he threw it backwards and it hit
Speaker 1: Frankie's head and went in the bucket. I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. Like what a big fluke. And
Speaker 1: we you know, bread it and batter it. Fluke and
Speaker 1: flounder was so great. What a great food, kids, all flounder.
Speaker 1: You know, bread and flounder was like easy to cook.
Speaker 1: It's like fish and chips. We had a ball. We
Speaker 1: had a ball and you know, I wrote this in
Speaker 1: my book. There was a woman who lived I think
Speaker 1: about I think it was Sayville, nice nice town on
Speaker 1: the water, about twenty five minutes east of us on
Speaker 1: the island. And we would take the boat there sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, and we go down this canal one night
Speaker 1: or one day, you know, the private canal. Get out
Speaker 1: that all these signs you can't stay here a lot
Speaker 1: of shit. We're going to a private canal. We're fishing,
Speaker 1: and there's crabs on the dock and we're scooping crabs up.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, there's so plentiful Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: Like no one's touched this area and we're going bananas,
Speaker 1: fishing nets, the whole thing. A lady comes out sitting
Speaker 1: on a golf car, motorized golf cart, a big sun hat,
Speaker 1: talking katvarin hepburn type. Hello, what are you doing on
Speaker 1: my prock buty here? That kind of shit and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't know we got lost. Well, you
Speaker 1: can't be here, like it's very stern, you know, like
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pounds stern woman with the lipstick
Speaker 1: of the sun hat. And she had money, she had means.
Speaker 1: But you know she's on the golf cart but she
Speaker 1: was protecting her fucking property. You can't be here, all right,
Speaker 1: you know. Sorry, hun, my name is al Benz. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't care much about knowing you, but you can't
Speaker 1: that kind of shit. Bad woman. Right, what's my father
Speaker 1: doing next week? Let's go back to that canal dag
Speaker 1: She's gonna not just we'll go back now. We had
Speaker 1: made dinner, he'd we got some clams that day, so
Speaker 1: he had some clams. He I think it was like
Speaker 1: a Linguinian clam saw and he puts it on the boat,
Speaker 1: me and him Jack Frankie. I don't think Joey was
Speaker 1: even Joy might have been a baby. And we take
Speaker 1: that right again to Saville and we're going down to
Speaker 1: the canal and I'm nervous, like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be so fucking bad, and and my father starts telling
Speaker 1: her name out. She did tell us her name was
Speaker 1: Julia Thorne, Okay, some kind of famous woman in Loyle,
Speaker 1: and you know, grew up with money. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was our husband, I forget, but she had,
Speaker 1: you know, that heft about. I've lived well and I'm
Speaker 1: in my golf cart. You're in my fucking property. And
Speaker 1: he goes down that canal and he says, Julia Thorn,
Speaker 1: where's my girl, Julia Thorne, you know, just flirting with
Speaker 1: her loudly. Come out, come out, Julia, come out. You
Speaker 1: know here it comes to golf cart. What are you
Speaker 1: doing back here? Like? I'm sure she didn't sound just
Speaker 1: like Kathay Epper, but that's how I picked sure. Why
Speaker 1: are you here again? Julia? I felt bad, and we
Speaker 1: you know, we now we're like taking the boat to
Speaker 1: the dock, like so she's right next to us. He goes,
Speaker 1: I felt bad. We didn't know where we were going.
Speaker 1: And I don't want you to think we're intruding. My
Speaker 1: wife made a nice, nice clam sauce. I'd like you
Speaker 1: to have it. I'll come back for the for the dish,
Speaker 1: and you know next week. How do I know you
Speaker 1: didn't poison this food. I didn't poison it. I want
Speaker 1: you to taste what we caught, please miss thorn Julia
Speaker 1: ah right, you know. And then ever since then, every
Speaker 1: time we wanted to go there, she would come out
Speaker 1: with that golf card, golf fish more have fun boys.
Speaker 1: She loved it, she loved us. I told Mike about it.
Speaker 1: He goes, what were you doing in saved? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just we made a left and my father just
Speaker 1: found this canal. It was I can't even describe it.
Speaker 1: It was a hidden little spot and I've told you
Speaker 1: about that beautiful that. I mean, it was like it
Speaker 1: was like a dream. There was a little spot in
Speaker 1: the middle of the bay, okay, and it was in
Speaker 1: like off the channel, and I can't you know, the
Speaker 1: water got low with low tides, so you were able
Speaker 1: to walk the boat there and walk and you see
Speaker 1: there was like a wooden diving board, and and when
Speaker 1: you dove in the water, the water was deep. It
Speaker 1: was the bay, but it was a but it was
Speaker 1: separated by rocks. I can't even explain how magical this
Speaker 1: place was, to the point where we would go there
Speaker 1: with masks and snorkels and we would see sea horses
Speaker 1: and oct thepus things you don't see in the Great
Speaker 1: South Bay. Then they belong in the ocean, and we
Speaker 1: would go, oh, my starfish. We'd take them back home
Speaker 1: to the pool. You know. It was like magical. It
Speaker 1: wasn't about fishing. It was just about let's go to
Speaker 1: the fishing hall. Let's jump off the diving board, let's
Speaker 1: take the snorkel, let's see some beautiful fish. It was
Speaker 1: like Jacques Cousteau. It was amazing. And I told Mike,
Speaker 1: he's I don't think I don't think I've ever been that. Oh, Mike,
Speaker 1: it was so great. Bro what a beautiful spot that
Speaker 1: they that they found, you know, my father and Jack found.
Speaker 1: And anyway, I'm getting off the subject. I know I
Speaker 1: was gonna talk more about Jack, But I like the
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican Riggs. And I want to say one more
Speaker 1: thing that I think is not important, but add some
Speaker 1: element and some flavor to his life. You know, Jack
Speaker 1: was working as a physical education teacher, gym teacher, and
Speaker 1: a coach up at you know, uh west Chester County,
Speaker 1: an hour and a half north of New York. Uh
Speaker 1: it was. It was primarily a black school, Tuckahoe High School.
Speaker 1: And you know, he was in with black culture all
Speaker 1: the time. And he got me into black culture because
Speaker 1: I would go to see him coach his games and
Speaker 1: all the players were black, and they had the afros
Speaker 1: and the picks in their fucking head and they could
Speaker 1: dunk in ninth, ninth, and tenth grade. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I was watching. And then like Saturdays, he drive me
Speaker 1: up there. We do something he started called Dad's Club
Speaker 1: where he opened the gym up for fathers and their
Speaker 1: little sons. And every father was there with their boy
Speaker 1: and we do pickup games, just really good stuff. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, this is great. And you know because
Speaker 1: of that, I learned about you know, soul train and
Speaker 1: you know, the music that his players would walk out to.
Speaker 1: He comes the Express. Listen to BT Express, listen to that,
Speaker 1: listen to you know. I know Trump took the money money, money, money, eh,
Speaker 1: but Jack was playing there for his boys way back
Speaker 1: in his seventies. Rubber band man. I mean it was
Speaker 1: just like I couldn't get enough of this culture. Fuck.
Speaker 1: Look at these guys that the heads are over the rim.
Speaker 1: This is me. They had nicknamed Booger's Henderson Lee the Hawk,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know this. White guys didn't have these.
Speaker 1: I was enthralled. Take me there, let's go. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see these guys. And they liked me, and I began
Speaker 1: to play with them, and I developed the flavor as well.
Speaker 1: And that's a big reason why I didn't mesh with
Speaker 1: the west Ice look way of playing basketball and bounce
Speaker 1: passes and you know, set shots and all this nonsense.
Speaker 1: I'm looking to do finger rolls and fucking beyond my
Speaker 1: back and you know it just Mike straight laced, six
Speaker 1: foot five inch coach from Oklahoma, mister Smith didn't want that.
Speaker 1: And I would play with Jack on the on my driveway.
Speaker 1: He put up the court, he put he put the
Speaker 1: backboard up and nailed it to the roof. It was
Speaker 1: just you know, Jack did it. My father was busy
Speaker 1: working and put the corner. But we'd always shoot baskets
Speaker 1: and I'm talking rain snow. I was always out there.
Speaker 1: I didn't matter. I would wash the ball in the
Speaker 1: bathtub because it was dirty. I love basketball, I still do,
Speaker 1: but to me, it was like a religion. Just keep shooting.
Speaker 1: And Jack would come out and say he would do
Speaker 1: this thing where he'd stake foul shots and I would
Speaker 1: just rebound and he'd say, let's play feet the coach.
Speaker 1: I'm the coach. You just get my rebound and you
Speaker 1: throw me the ball. And I'm talking like an hour
Speaker 1: of getting rebounds and throwing back to him at the
Speaker 1: foul line and he's shooting it. And he would tell me,
Speaker 1: you know, like i'd play him one on one. I
Speaker 1: would do like a finger roll or he's like, stop,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that. You're not gonna be six
Speaker 1: foot five. Ah, you might be six foot You want
Speaker 1: to do a double clutch, you want to do a
Speaker 1: fade away, be like Clyde, be like Earla, pearlman Roe, Pistol,
Speaker 1: Pete Maravich. You're never gonna get over the rim, so
Speaker 1: don't do that okay, you know, and we'd play one
Speaker 1: on one and when I was good, I told you,
Speaker 1: you'd say, you know, you're not as good as your
Speaker 1: best day, You're not as bad as your worst that
Speaker 1: you're in the middle, and you know I was. It
Speaker 1: was just I remember the day I beat him. I
Speaker 1: never wanted to play him again, because once you beat
Speaker 1: your hero, you just don't want to do it again.
Speaker 1: You don't want to see it. Not that he was mad,
Speaker 1: I just knew, like this is a new chapter in life.
Speaker 1: I just beat him. Fuck, you know, thirty three minutes in.
Speaker 1: I think this week is a crazy week, you know.
Speaker 1: I just my mind is racing. There's so many things
Speaker 1: going through my head. And I'm sorry if I you know,
Speaker 1: if I rush over things. And maybe you don't think
Speaker 1: it's the greatest show. I don't know. I just that
Speaker 1: this is a monumental moment in my life. We knew
Speaker 1: it was coming, and I always want to honor that
Speaker 1: for him, and you know, nothing's going to change that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it might be the next couple of days
Speaker 1: I do the same shit. I hate to tell you,
Speaker 1: you know, it just you lose somebody that's been in
Speaker 1: your life since you're five years old. They deserve more
Speaker 1: than thirty minutes, you know what I mean. But thank
Speaker 1: you all for the well wishers and the calls and
Speaker 1: the direct messages and everything. You've been great the texts.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky. And I
Speaker 1: know sometimes you don't know how lucky were on until
Speaker 1: life gets really tough and bad and confusing. But I
Speaker 1: always know I'm lucky because of you guys. So I
Speaker 1: love you, I love you all. I love you's all,
Speaker 1: as Roslie would say, I love you is all. But
Speaker 1: we'll talk tomorrow, all right. Thank you for letting me
Speaker 1: go on this memory lane kind of shit. It's just
Speaker 1: the way I gotta do it. It's just the way.
Speaker 1: It's got a playout game. We'll get back to Britney
Speaker 1: Spears and Tom Hardy and Paris Hilton w it was
Speaker 1: a ship. Talk to yet. Talk to you tomorrow