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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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Speaker 3: Sneaking up on them.

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Speaker 4: As soon as you walk in the woods, you walk.

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Speaker 2: In their front door, thinking that you are going to

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surprise them. You're only kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get out of our heads that

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anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in my opinion,

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that we have to learn about these creatures right now

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is by listening to and talking to those that have

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experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and experienced them

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in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away

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as to this topic to be an open door for

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somebody to walk through, to be able to share their story,

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a listening bear, a support pold for those who have

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had their own encounters with that which is not supposed

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to exist.

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Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes, people, there is something

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out there. All of these thousands of people that have

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seen something. They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.

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There are some very reputable, good people out there that.

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Speaker 5: Have seen something.

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Speaker 1: Before we get started, I want to address the elephant

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in the room, or I guess the elephant the giraffe

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that's not in the room. I guess I should say

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Miss Tiffany is not here. She has decided. I mean,

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I guess the winds of change have.

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Speaker 5: Blown her way.

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Speaker 1: She is on to bigger and better things. And wish

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her nothing but the absolute best. She is my little sister.

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I love her so much. The show has just grown

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so much with her. She's responsible for so much of it.

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Speaker 5: Still love her.

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and I wish her nothing but the best. She's been

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my little sister for a few years now, and she

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knows a lot of my secrets. I know a lot

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of hers and think nothing but the best of her.

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I love her, and she is going to go on

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to do amazing things. Thank you so much for the

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time that you gave us. Tiffany. We love you and

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we're going to miss you. Your beautiful, You're talented, your love,

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You're awesome, and I thank you for everything. So moving

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on from that, obviously, there's some changes coming up. It's

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just gonna be me for a little while. I don't

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know how long. But I used to do it by

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myself all the time, so ain't that new to me?

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Just be a little more work, So I'm gonna do

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some make some other changes, like the podcast. Those of

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you that listen to the podcast and not just catch

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it here, y'all, y'all have noticed that I do all

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of the paying of the bills and the call to

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actions at the end of the show. So I think

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getting to our guests a little bit quicker. Alright, everybody,

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I am so very excited to have our guests backstage.

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month ago, it's been a few weeks. But everyone loved her.

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Her stories were amazing. She comes from a Native American background.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 1: She sent me some pictures today that I can't explain.

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It's hair. It's absolutely hair, but it's like six feet

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of hair, like dreaded, and we're going to show that

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to you. I'll bring that up early before we really

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get into anything, because I don't know what the hell

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they found. I want her to talk about that and

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tell everybody kind of what to expect. But all of

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that being said, well, before we do, let me just

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say hello to everybody in the chat that has joined us. Troy,

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what's up, Buddy? Been talking to you today? Always fun,

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Alex still the best dollar night, and thank you buddy.

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Chris Blaylock. You know I love you, ma'am. You are amazing.

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Robert my brother from another mother. Thank you so much

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for hanging.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Sledge, where you been, man? You're a neighbor now

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you live like ten minutes down the road.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, Bobby, appreciate it very very much. Ristol,

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as always, he is always here. Erica, thank you so much, ma'am.

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I enjoyed spending time with you last weekend. Stormy. You

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know how we feel about you, ma'am. Thank you so

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much for hanging out. And there are others, but I'm

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just not seeing them. Other people will tune in. Goony

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goog hit us with the dollar ninety nine as always,

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that two dollars a week. We can count on. That's

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like taxes right there. You know we can count on that.

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Two bucks a week from Gooney, Thank you buddy. All right, Alan,

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what's up, buddy, Alan from Cadillac, Michigan, My great Dane brother.

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Thank you so much for tuning in. Kevin Jones, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: We've been talking a little bit recently. Thank you for

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tuning in. All right, let's get to our guests. Miss Donna.

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Oh god, I hope I pronounce this right. Copus Capus.

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She's going to correct me right now. Hello, how are

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Very very well? Pronoun your last name? Man,

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Speaker 3: Ye believe me, it's been. It's been pronounced. One time

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Speaker 1: What so you said, Calpus? Is that what you said?

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and it's like is that? I was like, no, you

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gotta do Copus?

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it was just it was a great show.

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Speaker 5: Everyone loved it.

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thank you so much for we're taking the time to

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come and hang out with me tonight. It's all some

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of you. You sent me some pictures today, and I

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don't know what the hell to make of these pictures.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you do.

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but I'm just gonna go ahead and pop them up

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and tell me what in the hell y'all found and where?

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Speaker 3: Well, that is a humongous amount of hair. There's no

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skin on it. It's like dreadlock. It's about six foot

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and half two feet wide. It's huge. I mean I

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actually stood on the chair and held it. I'm five

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foot three and it's way longer than I am tall.

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and we found all kinds of stuff there before where

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the back of it where it's petrified. The other one's

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in the stone well that in that waterfalls. It's right here.

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some flooding, and so he started pulling. And the more

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there's more there, there's more. And I said stop because

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because we could be messing up DNA, you know that

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vonnees because it's in the ground.

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Speaker 3: We've literally pulled it out of being buried. It was buried.

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Speaker 1: What what is this six foot long clump of dreadlocked

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but very coarse, coarse human hair. I didn't have a

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taxidermist look at it and He's like, I don't know

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what the heck that is. He's like like a beefalow,

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from but there's no skin, if there's no skin attached

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Speaker 4: And you can see that petrified in that stone foot.

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it's turned to stone like whatever. But it's like a

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Speaker 3: It's like claws, like as long as your fingers is

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that's how long the claws are. It's like it's like nails,

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Speaker 5: Aren't really doing it much justice.

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Speaker 4: No, it's I had a few straight over the last

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Mike Miller, I did your show. I was listening to

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it because he comes here, I actually do I got

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you those pictures of what that the face that I

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got that night.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I couldn't make much out. And there's a

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to be honest on this show, Donna, we we don't

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really share a whole lot of pictures that can't be

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really to what they are.

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Speaker 6: It.

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Speaker 3: Just believe me, if you see it, and I'm not

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saying it sending it to you, you see it on

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my phone, you would.

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Speaker 4: See what I was talking about.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 3: It was a big surprise my granddaughter who's seven, she's

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been staying with me since school was out, and she

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had told me she saw something looking in the window.

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I thought, you know, kid being kids, she just reflection

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or whatever. But it scared her so bad that.

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Speaker 4: She went home. She won't she won't stay. But and

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then I found that a few days later. I found that.

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Speaker 1: But I honestly, I mean, that's this is one of

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the coolest things I've seen. And you only send it

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to me today, yeah, maybe yesterday, And I just I

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don't know what the hell to make of that much hair? Well,

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I well, you see how that much hair and what

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dreads it like that?

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Speaker 4: It is?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: I talked to.

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Speaker 1: Have found the corpse of a bigfoot and that was

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just hair that come off of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I honestly, you know, I have I have talked to

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different people.

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Speaker 4: I talked to the taxi dermist.

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Speaker 3: I spoke to well, I talked to Tim sometimes and

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he's like, well, I was worried. I was like, well,

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I touched it, so I probably messed up any DNA

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I put. You know, ours is in there where we

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pulled it, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, well, just maybe try to find a

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spot where you didn't touch it and kind of peace

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out that way.

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Speaker 4: But he's he's like, I suggest that you put it

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away right now, and.

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Speaker 5: Then what do you have it? What do you have

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it secured in? What do you have it stored in? Donna?

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Speaker 4: I took like a garment bag, you know, like what

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you from dry cleaner.

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Speaker 5: I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: And I kind of put it down in there.

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Speaker 1: Did you like vacuum seal it?

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Speaker 3: I have it vacuum sealed it, but I kind of

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put it down in there and seal it because it

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was wet.

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Speaker 4: So you can imagine it's dry and.

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Speaker 3: You can see, like I said, there's sticks and little

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vines where it's it's been there for a while because

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the vines has grown through it, you know, like little

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teeny tiny vines has grown through it.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what this is I honestly, I

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don't know. We need to stay on top of this,

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stay in touch with me and get this turned in.

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I'll talk to whoever I need to. You know, I

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have connections people I know through the community to.

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Speaker 5: See who we can talk to.

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Speaker 1: Maybe even cut it up, like send samples of you

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ain't got to send the whole thing to somebody, you know.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what Tim suggested.

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Speaker 3: It's like kind of you know, maybe go into center

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pit gloves on, be careful and try to find a place,

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you know, where you have a touch so we can

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just get.

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Speaker 1: You know, I never I've never heard I've never heard

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any anywhere History channel, nothing of people finding a six

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foot long hair hair that looks like what should be

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on a big foot.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: We don't have b below or you know that kind

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of stuff around here. There's none that's certainly not horse hair.

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That's like cattle hair.

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Speaker 1: She uh, it looks like long ass human hair.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: And it looks like uh, my person that dreadlocked you know, uh,

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since since.

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Speaker 4: They were born.

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Speaker 1: I call them white boy dreads. There's a difference between

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white boy dreads and then the African American guys, the

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black guys there, because that's like more braided and stuff

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that looks like white boy dreads to me.

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Speaker 4: Can you see what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Here's the.

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Speaker 5: I mean, where is it?

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Speaker 1: Why can't I?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: There?

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Speaker 5: It is sorry that.

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Speaker 1: This is the foot the foot of what.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea. You see how big it is?

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And now see it on the end.

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Speaker 1: That is as hell too.

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Speaker 4: That's just where this came Where that came from? This

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where this came from?

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Speaker 1: Is that a cast or is that a bone?

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Speaker 3: No? This is this is uh shine a light one. No,

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it's making it No, it's making it too much. Back off,

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it's too much.

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Speaker 4: Are looking at this is petrified like uh like stone.

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But if you could see don't move back to Jeremy

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because that's too.

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Speaker 1: That looks like alien ship right there.

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Speaker 3: So, but can you see the can you see the toes?

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There's three toes and this is smooth right here. It's

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like the nail you see, yeah, two three and the leather.

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Now there was another right here, but it's broken off. Okay,

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And this is what the backside of it looks like.

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Speaker 1: So did y'all find that in the area of the hair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same place, same waterfalls. So I have no idea

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what he found this a few years ago. But we

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find artifacts there. I found all kind of native artifacts, arrowheads,

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paint pots, ceremonial type things. So I don't because, like

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I said, I'm in the country. So when it floods

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that little creek, it washes down for miles and miles

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and miles. When I first bought the property, it was vacant.

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There's nothing here.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.

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Speaker 3: But the big floper for We'll.

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Speaker 5: Be right back.

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Speaker 3: They had logged out, really really old timber.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: My water comes from springs. I don't have city water.

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I have springs that feed to my house.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have a wheel pump water.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was the first thing I looked for,

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because like I still do the old ways.

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Speaker 4: I still harvest the roots.

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Speaker 1: I have my own.

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Speaker 3: Well. My dad, when I bought the place, there's twenty

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three acres. He handed me the script giant ten can

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of gen san Berri's and he's like, now go playing

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him and you'll always have money in the bank.

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Speaker 4: You know, meaning which is true?

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Speaker 3: You know my my saying I never take anything less

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than a fourth prong and then it's always all my

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berries are replanted, so and it's about a thousand dollars

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a pound.

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Speaker 4: So you know, at the.

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Speaker 3: End of the year, I want to I need extra

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money or I want to harvest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: But I have the other roots too, I have yellow root.

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I have everything. You know, it's kind of I don't

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let anybody on my property. I don't. If I hunt,

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I just hunt for food or I'm going to donate it,

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or you know, I don't. It's kept private so well.

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Speaker 1: I definitely I definitely hope that that you and I

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can stay in touch, is you know, just find out

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what the hell is going on with that hair and

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that possible foot, because I mean, if I any any

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way I can help you to get answers, I definitely will.

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Speaker 5: I'll start asking around.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you already have an avenue to get some answers,

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but I would like to get them.

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Speaker 3: It's that was a surprise I've never seen, I've never found.

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And you know what else happened though, because I found

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that and I took the as soon as I brought

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it in, it was wet. I took those pictures. There's

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like two pictures. That's all I got then next morning

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I decided I laid it out on my couch so

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it would be the full length, and I wanted to

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get a picture, you know, because I was talking to Tim.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't let me.

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Speaker 3: I couldnot take the picture. It would not let my

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phone work. It would not I'd tried another camera, I

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tried another front in no way, so I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: I It's like physically not let you take a picture.

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Speaker 3: I can not take a picture. I mean I took

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other pictures with the same thing and it worked fine,

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but when I tried to do that, it wouldn't. It

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wouldn't work. Now I've experienced that before because I have

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different places that I go and there's a cave that

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I do gifting in and it happens there when I

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get close. Because I go in becuse you have to

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have flashlight or something. My flashlights won't work. My batteries

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go dead as soon as I get close. So I

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keep an old time torch with you know, you wrap

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the rag with scar sene on it, and you you know,

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I keep those at the entrance. So when I go in,

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that is my life because I take my I make

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my cakes and that kind of things.

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Speaker 4: I leave in there.

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Speaker 3: That's my gifting site. So I'm used to some of

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the hum and you know, knocking your batteries out, that

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kind of stuff. But I was like, I don't know.

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I got those two pictures and I was amazed. I

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was like, why why won't it work now? Because I

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got these too. But when I just I just literally

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just brought it, you know, pulled it and brought it in.

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So I don't know. I can't explain that one either.

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Don't have an explanation for it.

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Speaker 1: But no, unfortunately we don't. It was about them all right.

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Speaker 5: Well, from when we had you on last I know

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a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of people were very very interested in some of these

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stories from your elders, like your grandparents, and because you're

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Native American, right, and I know all kinds of stories

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have had to have been passed down, and I know

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I would personally would love to hear some of those.

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If there's a few of those that you can share

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with us, just experiences, things they learned, things they experience,

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or just just anything. It doesn't have to be creepy,

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just you know what your people experience from these things.

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, with us, we call them the

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watchers I've had I've been attacked over that name, talking

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about the angels that came down and bread with the humans.

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But that's not what we mean when we say watchers.

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We mean these are our protectors that watch us over us.

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I don't you know, I don't get into the religious

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thing or anything like that, but what I did say was, well,

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shawn Ee, we didn't have a Bible. You know, white

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man brought the Bible. And I have nothing against the

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Bible or religion. I was raised both ways. I want

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to make that very clear. We call them Creator the

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Great Spirit. And with the story that was told about

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how the watchers came to be, you know, the moonlight

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people came. They had children with our people, not just

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our people, I don't think, I think other tribes or

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other racists, whatever, and they were left behind as.

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Speaker 4: Our protectors of those children.

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Speaker 3: And what I do know is, and I've talked to

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different people about like the negative the rh factor of

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the oak, you know, the negative blood.

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Speaker 4: My whole family has that.

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Speaker 3: I mean to the point that it's very dangerous at

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times because of the blood disorder.

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Speaker 5: That was one the blood type you're talking about, yes.

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Speaker 3: The blood type, because the negative if you searched back,

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you find out that that negative came into effect after

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this was something they found later on. And with that

477
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:23,559
rh factor, it seems like anything that anybody that has

478
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,440
a lot of interactions with the watchers will be of

479
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:32,920
a negative blood. So I you know, I've had stories

480
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,319
told about that from my elders. When we talked about

481
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:41,880
the dog man again, I'm not real sure I did

482
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,640
have that. Last year in October was the first time

483
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,240
I saw anything that I even thought was a dog man,

484
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,720
and it wasn't here on my property or close to me.

485
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,839
Speaker 1: This is so your elders, your ancestors, didn't talk much

486
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:55,640
about the dog man.

487
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,759
Speaker 3: They did tell me the story and they said the

488
00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:03,359
dog men were created by the shaman to help battle.

489
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,039
Speaker 4: There was a battle going on that some.

490
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 7: Of the of the the medicine men, you know, the

491
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:17,720
shaman had turned bad and they were doing bad things

492
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:21,640
and they were using the watchers to help them do this,

493
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:24,400
and the watchers had turned bad with them.

494
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: That's the reason why Dad always said, there's good and

495
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,279
there's bad. You know, you have to be very careful.

496
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,440
I have things that I have to do, a special

497
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,279
sights that I do, special things in but at that

498
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,720
time they said they created the dog men to help

499
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:45,319
them battle the watchers. They had to have something of

500
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,480
equal strength because they're a lot stronger than humans.

501
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 4: Now, the dog men is two different things.

502
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,799
Speaker 3: There is there is the warriors that are the dog men,

503
00:27:57,519 --> 00:28:00,000
and they're fierce warriors. And when they went into battle,

504
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,720
they were actually they put a leash around yourself and

505
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,400
they staked theirself to the ground and they and they

506
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,599
fought to the death. You know, they never unleashed theirself

507
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,279
through that whole battle. They would not pull they would

508
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,519
under penalty of death that they ever pulled that leash.

509
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,160
They are anchored down and they stay there till they

510
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,720
they either win or they die.

511
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 4: That is the way. That's that's another.

512
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 5: Form of thing that doesn't sound very fun.

513
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,039
Speaker 3: And well, like I said, there's my lineage is from

514
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,559
what we call the ice Maiden. It was a female warriors,

515
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,000
very very fierce warriors. And like I said before, they

516
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,440
always said, pray to God, the men get you, not

517
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:41,960
the women.

518
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: You don't want them to get you.

519
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: So they were very a very special sect. And my

520
00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:01,160
training I started, I was taking what I twelve, you know,

521
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:04,440
I grew up being taught different things. But at the

522
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,440
age of twelve, it's when you go to the cave

523
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:12,880
and that's when you're your training starts. So but as

524
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,119
far as the watchers, I've always seen a last six.

525
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: When Dad introduced me the first.

526
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:23,839
Speaker 3: Time to them, he taught me, like the stones, the

527
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:29,039
marker stones, the tree shelter, all that what it means.

528
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,400
I've never, like I said, I had a couple of

529
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680
things that happened that was kind of violent, but they

530
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,720
weren't really directed towards me. Last year, I actually had

531
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,880
almost had a long throy through my windshield because I

532
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,079
was leave an early of the morning to go pick

533
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:56,799
up another family member to take them and dough deer.

534
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,400
There was like a ten foot bank and she come

535
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:01,039
laying out in front of my car.

536
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: She dove off. She didn't go down the bank.

537
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,559
Speaker 3: She dove off and just splattered four legs out into

538
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,920
the road and I stopped.

539
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,559
Speaker 4: She's scared, just terrifying.

540
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: She's you know, like gets up and finally gets across

541
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:16,200
the road and I went about fifty more feet when

542
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,720
the fawn came off the same bank and I look

543
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,200
up and I'm thinking something's chasing them, and there on

544
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000
the bank is a juvenile and he has a log

545
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,279
of probably six foot long, probably twelve inches, you know,

546
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,960
it's a big and it's broken hall and he's got

547
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,880
it up and I'm thinking, crap.

548
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: Is going to go through my windshield just any second.

549
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: And at the last second he threw it to the

550
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,920
side and he did like a teenager huffing.

551
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,839
Speaker 4: You know, he's mad.

552
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,319
Speaker 3: So he stomps and he huffs, and he threw it

553
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:50,599
to the side and he went back through the woods.

554
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,279
But I guess that was his way of saying, you know,

555
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:54,920
you just screwed me all over.

556
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: I hadn't get no breakfast, but so you witnessed this juvenile.

557
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had all that logging.

558
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: There's the big areas like four hundred acres where they

559
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,480
mostly stay, and they were logging that out really bad.

560
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,079
So they were traveling around moving. That's when I seen

561
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,119
we had more sightings. Other people had sightings too. But

562
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,599
thank god they've wit logging and they can they've moved

563
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,599
back up into the valley. The Shawnee name for this

564
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,559
valley is the Valley of the Dead, because not only

565
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,359
it's a burial we have our mounds there. We have

566
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:37,359
some old billing sites and you see some creepy things

567
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,519
there at times. You see the orbs. I've seen the

568
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,799
child where they were logging. It actually drug logs through

569
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,359
a burial and I was walking around through there and

570
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,880
they tore out a lot of stones. And as I

571
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,000
come around the curve, I look, there's another girl with

572
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,359
me and I go, oh, there is a she goes child.

573
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:02,400
It's because she finished my sentence. She saw it at

574
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,240
the same time I did, and it's just like it's gone.

575
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:11,000
So there's things were disturbed, but which kind of made

576
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:14,680
things a little hectic around here.

577
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: I know.

578
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,559
Speaker 3: People ask me about the watchers and cemeteries.

579
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,079
Speaker 5: Good question, good question.

580
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,279
Speaker 3: The watchers, like I said, you have your own watch.

581
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:28,039
I have my watcher and my dad had of his,

582
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:32,119
which he's very old. But when you pass away, they

583
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,039
go to that they follow you to that cemetery. Shawnee

584
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:40,759
believe in reincarnation, so the watchers wait for that soul

585
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,119
to be reincarnated.

586
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: They watch. So there's a whole thing about stone eggs,

587
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:50,119
and that would be a.

588
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: Very long conversation. But so there is a reason that

589
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720
they're there. I mean, it's it's not like they're creepy

590
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,799
and trying to eat bodies or anything like that. They're

591
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,160
actually watching, they're watching their charges.

592
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what is it about?

593
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard so many stories about bigfoot sightings

594
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:15,119
around cemeteries. A couple of our active areas are near cemeteries.

595
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,880
I mean, I don't is it. There's so much speculation,

596
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,039
and that's all that it is at this point is speculation.

597
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:26,519
Are they like are they honoring the dead?

598
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,359
Speaker 5: I mean I don't know.

599
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,599
Speaker 3: Yes, if you look in that cemetery, here's your clue.

600
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Whatever cemetery, You're going to go to that cemetery and

601
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,359
look for the dates on the tombstons, okay, and you

602
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,039
will find something dating back to early eighteen hundreds.

603
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: Or something like that.

604
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:45,839
Speaker 3: Given you're going to find.

605
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: Old grades green hundreds.

606
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,599
Speaker 3: And when you find those old graves and you're setting

607
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,920
up to do research or whatever, you're going to find

608
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,200
out that they're going to be hanging around those old grades.

609
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:02,200
Those are their charges.

610
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: Why are they hanging around the old graves, don't I.

611
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 4: That's because it's well, like me, I have my own watcher.

612
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,079
He's mine.

613
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,639
Speaker 3: He's going to watch over me till I die, and

614
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,559
when I die, it will come to my grave and

615
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:17,599
watch over my grave.

616
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: So when does he die?

617
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:26,639
Speaker 3: Honestly, my dad, my dad would be like one hundred

618
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,960
years old if he was alive.

619
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,079
Speaker 4: His watcher is still here. He's very old. And so

620
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,000
you know, I can't tell you.

621
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

622
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,519
Speaker 3: You know, I can't say that they don't die because actually,

623
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:45,519
with something last year that I'm not a loud to

624
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,679
talk about, I got very I was told very thoroughly

625
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,360
to shut my mouth and not talk about it. Who well,

626
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,519
I can't say that where other people will hear me

627
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:02,400
say that, but I could maybe discuss that with you later.

628
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:04,639
Speaker 4: It was a very.

629
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,159
Speaker 3: Disturbing thing that happened. And because I try, like I said,

630
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:12,800
I go through the woods all the time. I have

631
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,480
different areas, I have access to places that other people

632
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:16,480
don't get into.

633
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 4: And it was a very very horrifying and very.

634
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh.

635
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 4: I just I just cried.

636
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,679
Speaker 1: I was just so.

637
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,199
Speaker 3: But within about three days I got contacted and told

638
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,800
to you.

639
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 4: Know, mind, my manners can keep it quiet.

640
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: So I have to honor their wishes to get so

641
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:43,280
that I can have access to where I need to go.

642
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 4: I have to honor their wishes.

643
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: I get the free Lene. There's so much more you're

644
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,159
not telling us.

645
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, well.

646
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: I am a little older and I have been taught

647
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,440
and my dad. Uh, like I said, last two years

648
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,400
of dad's life, he shared everything with me. He taught me,

649
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:11,440
he cautioned me because he was very protective. Uh, you

650
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,440
know they're protective of us, we're protective of them. There

651
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,599
are family. Uh it was like, you're crazy. You know,

652
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,159
there's no such thing. You're nuts or I get I

653
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:23,280
got family members at tas whatever.

654
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: You know.

655
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 4: That's everybody do their.

656
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:29,679
Speaker 3: Own opinion, opinions like bloodholes, everybody hats one.

657
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: Whatever.

658
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: So's I don't argue about my rule.

659
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,199
Speaker 4: I don't argue about religion.

660
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: I'll argue about politics and everybody can have their own

661
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,199
opinion and I'll have mine.

662
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:58,559
Speaker 1: So it's not Is there a looking back the stories

663
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:03,800
that were passed down to you? I don't know how

664
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,760
to word this because I don't want to say. Let's

665
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,159
try this. Is there a story that was passed down

666
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:18,960
to you where one a human like us, now you

667
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,840
or your family, your natives was protected by a sasquatch.

668
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,000
Does anything like that ring a bell?

669
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: Or yeah, last year when I got hit with the

670
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:37,559
flying cooler, Uh if it hadn't been for my failure

671
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,199
coming flying. He's a little failer. He ain't big like

672
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,960
the old man.

673
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,039
Speaker 2: Uh.

674
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 3: If he had not he came down through there, like

675
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920
about all of hell, I don't know what would have

676
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,159
happened to me. I mean, maybe he'd just chopped over

677
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,159
talk about me and went on because he was mad.

678
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:57,360
But mine came through those woods and he was there.

679
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: And like growing up like from me, like your your mother,

680
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:06,800
your father, your grandparents, just something where they protected like

681
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,320
from something else by a sasquatch.

682
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,679
Speaker 3: Animal wise or you know where they came here. Yeah, yeah,

683
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,239
I had okay. Well, like I said, I was nine

684
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,440
and I lived on the big farm. It's like three

685
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:27,840
hundred acres, and I hated school. I was always skipping,

686
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:29,960
you know, I had to walk out to the school bus.

687
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,960
And I thought that day I was okay because that

688
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,599
had I thought he'd already left for work. So when

689
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,840
I go down, i'd have to walk out and then

690
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,679
I go down the hill. Then I go I'd go

691
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:42,440
off through the woods, past the springs and hit the

692
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,760
creek and then I end up back up in the barn.

693
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,239
But on that day I went down there and I

694
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,440
had a dog with me, and there was a big

695
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,079
hollow log across the creek and my dog wouldn't go

696
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:55,480
near it.

697
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: She skidded up around the hill.

698
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,079
Speaker 3: When I went, I clumb over it, and as I

699
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,360
went over, there was a black panther came out the

700
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840
end of the log. I know, people say, oh, there's

701
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,280
my black back. They're full of crap. They are here,

702
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:14,199
they've always been here, and so needless to say, scared

703
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:17,440
of beajamas out of me. And it's standing there looking

704
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,920
at me, and I'm thinking, you know, I got to

705
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,519
get back up the hill. I got to get to

706
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:27,079
the barn. And of course that's Dad's a trapper and

707
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,280
a hunter, so he's beat in my head. Don't run.

708
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:33,239
Whatever you do something, don't run, you run, you become prey.

709
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,639
So I start moving slow. But as I'm moving slowly

710
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,519
up through there, because I've had.

711
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 4: Mine has been around.

712
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: Two, you know, and it it followed in the woods

713
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,079
and that it was between me and that cat.

714
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 4: The cat came behind too, but it didn't have you know,

715
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,159
he wasn't.

716
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,599
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more. But the big flop report, we'll

717
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:01,280
be right back.

718
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:05,559
Speaker 4: It was behind. It would not come past him.

719
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: So by the time I got up to the barb

720
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,800
wire fence for my dad was waiting on me, let

721
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,360
me tell you, and I.

722
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,519
Speaker 4: Fell through the fence and I was like, anything.

723
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: I could say was cat, cat cat, And Dad promptly

724
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,559
turned me around and kicked me in the butt and

725
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:27,719
broke his toe. Uh he you know, he's like I

726
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,039
told you.

727
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: You know.

728
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:33,559
Speaker 4: So there's different times.

729
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 3: I go into the woods all the time, but I'm

730
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,599
not I'm cautious, but I always.

731
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: Feel their presence.

732
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:48,599
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I don't feel I was a

733
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:51,199
little concerned with what when I got the picture at

734
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,519
the bathroom window the other night. Is kind of concerned,

735
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,000
not so much for myself, but because my granddaughter was here.

736
00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,679
And then I kind of got to think, and you

737
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,800
know what, maybe that is a young, young one and

738
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,639
it's not here for me. Maybe it's here for her

739
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,039
because she's with me, and maybe that's hers.

740
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:10,559
Speaker 5: Now that's scary.

741
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:13,119
Speaker 1: That's a scary thought. I mean, now, what do you

742
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,400
mean there for her too?

743
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:22,039
Speaker 3: Because they start when you're young, they attach themselves to you,

744
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:26,280
not like no, that's not going to hurt her, But

745
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:30,880
when they're young, they're unpredictable. And my granddaughter is seven,

746
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,920
and she got scared of she comes outside pitch black

747
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:38,599
ass dark through to my house. She does like it's weird,

748
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:43,199
and coyotes scared. Coyote scares me. I'm you know, and

749
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,000
they're coming in close here. I have bobcats that's coming

750
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:48,960
close into my barn. And that's what I'm afraid she'll

751
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,039
walk out on. But then, you know, I kind of

752
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:56,039
I think about things. I try to rationalize what is

753
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,800
this or what could that be? And then I got

754
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,000
to thinking, either or it's a young one that's lost

755
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,719
it's mom and it's it's not smart enough yet to

756
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,880
stay as hidden as it should, or the ability hasn't

757
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,280
developed enough, because you got to think about these These

758
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,239
things are big, but they're young, you know, even when they're.

759
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 4: Babies, you know, they're big.

760
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 3: And as they grow up, I mean, it could be

761
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,719
the same age as her, it could be sad, you

762
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,719
know whatever in that years, but it's gonna be way

763
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,079
far far bigger, you know. So I thought, well, maybe

764
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,239
maybe that's hers. But if there's one child that is

765
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,280
truly more like me than anybody else, gets her. I

766
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,599
mean I have other granddaughters, but they don't they're more cautious.

767
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: They never was. She just isn't afraid. She just is

768
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,320
not afraid.

769
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm like.

770
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: That worries me because that did pound out in my head.

771
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,639
You know, you'd be cautious, use your brain. You know

772
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,119
there's good and bad and everything, and you don't know

773
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:15,159
what's going to be bought. So I'm still kind of

774
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:18,320
scratching my head on that one, trying to figure it out.

775
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:27,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the whole aspect of Bigfoot and Native

776
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:31,599
Americans just fascinates me. I have so many like thoughts

777
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:37,280
and questions and everything, like the cave drawings, total poles.

778
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,480
We've seen total poles with these things that.

779
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,599
Speaker 5: Look like a big foot.

780
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that?

781
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,639
Speaker 5: Can you speak to that at all?

782
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: Well, Like I said, I have a family member that

783
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,079
he's a paleographer. He deciphered res each in languages, and

784
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,079
we have traveled a bit and to a lot of

785
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:59,320
the Pictulis sites which you will find references to the watchers.

786
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,880
You see, we have one it's in Jackson here, it's

787
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,280
Leo Pitty Cliffs Sight And when you pull into the

788
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,360
parking lot they put the fifty clift site. It's actually

789
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,199
under a shelter so you could just drive up and

790
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,800
get out and walk over there and see it. Uh,

791
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,679
it's kind of fade and then people people are so

792
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,840
terrible about the graffiti and the disrespect, you know, the

793
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:30,280
whole thing. They destroyed so much. But you'll find them there,

794
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,880
you know. And we have another sight here. It's called

795
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,679
the Adscony Footprint Sight, and in that it actually has

796
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,320
the footprints in the story of the watchers in the

797
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,119
Shawnee and a battle that they fought, So it's it's

798
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:52,239
depicted in in the glipse there. And the amazing thing

799
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,159
about that was another stone on top and the footprint

800
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,280
that the foot is down like like it would have

801
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,599
stepped in it when the rock was hot and just

802
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:06,199
melted down and it formed that way.

803
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,199
Speaker 4: It's not mud.

804
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 3: This is a stone, and I think it was like

805
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,320
eighteen inches long.

806
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 4: It's pretty massive.

807
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:20,159
Speaker 3: But where somebody came and took the top of the

808
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:22,039
cliffed off and took it away.

809
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,679
Speaker 4: So again it's.

810
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: That's the reason I don't tell sites, because if anybody

811
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,199
knows where anything is, even our burial mounds.

812
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: To this day, they will dig up a burial mountains.

813
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,519
Speaker 3: So I'm very cautious.

814
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,519
Speaker 4: But then in the areas where the mountains are. These

815
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:46,320
are in the woods.

816
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: This isn't a cemetery or these are mountains in the woods,

817
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,599
and the watchers are in that area, they still guard

818
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:57,639
the sites.

819
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:04,159
Speaker 1: Kay, all right, well we have Normally we wouldn't get

820
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:05,800
to the questions this quickly.

821
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 5: Jesus Christ. We have a lot.

822
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: People are wanting to know, so we're going to try

823
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,920
to get through these as quickly as possible to be

824
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,039
respectful of everyone's time.

825
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 5: First off, going to go to it.

826
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, buddy, you are amazing, always hitting

827
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,440
us with that dollar ninety nine supersticker. My great great friend,

828
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,360
my brother from another mother, Kevin Jones, is he going

829
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,079
to be sampled?

830
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 5: I think he's talking about your dead.

831
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:39,679
Speaker 1: The hair, the hair.

832
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: I think that I'm going to let one gentleman help

833
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,440
me with that because I'm not a researcher. I don't

834
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:51,840
you know. I am who I am, and I do

835
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,039
what I do a researcher, I am not. So I

836
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,440
have talked to him and he's given me some advice

837
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,119
and he has somebody, so I think that's probably what

838
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:04,840
I'm going to do.

839
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: He I okay, all right, Well that goes along with

840
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,880
the next one, mister h Troy two fingers. I know

841
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,320
a guy at Vanderbilt University that would love to do

842
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:16,599
DNA on that.

843
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I.

844
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,039
Speaker 3: The one guy I've been for a couple of years.

845
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:28,400
He's been really helpful with me, and he's always very

846
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,320
honest with me in every way. If he says, hey,

847
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,039
I think that's crap, and I was like, okay, man,

848
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:35,880
you know you know more than I do. Uh, So

849
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:39,639
I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with him because he you know,

850
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,280
he's he's always.

851
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,639
Speaker 4: Been there for me.

852
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna stick with him. But I will absolutely

853
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,119
share whatever I find.

854
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:48,559
Speaker 1: I will be I mean, I think it's a good

855
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:51,840
idea to maybe get multiple sources. You know.

856
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,159
Speaker 4: Well, I thought about that too.

857
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,679
Speaker 3: I've seen the taxidermist first because I thought, well, maybe

858
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,760
it's something else, you know, because everybody's like, well, maybe

859
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,800
it's a wig, it's a synthetic you know, blah blah.

860
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:11,079
It's like, it's not, you know, it's it's not a wig.

861
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:14,320
It's hair. Uh And it's not you know, it's real.

862
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:19,039
Whatever the hair is, it's real hair. I mean, it's

863
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:25,239
not it's coarse, it's not a horse's tail. Well as

864
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,119
you can see how many horses tails you have to

865
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:28,960
have to be that.

866
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:31,079
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't think I've ever seen

867
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:35,800
anything as strange, like unexplainable than that.

868
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:39,079
Speaker 3: Uh well, I have seen a lot of things in

869
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,239
my life, but I honestly this was the first.

870
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 4: Because you don't find stuff, you know, it's just not.

871
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:50,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a pee, you know, like I talked

872
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:53,559
about pee. I've seen the pee where they mark their

873
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:59,880
territory and it's it's like thick, gummy, stinky, yucky. Uh

874
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,880
And in the times when they're having their babies and

875
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,639
giving birth and are mating time, man, it can get

876
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,000
really round, rawnchy.

877
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: I've seen that this hair smelled like skunk, right, Yeah.

878
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: It's got that skunky smell that smells like earth.

879
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:21,079
Speaker 3: Of course it was in the ground, so you know

880
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:24,880
you're going to get that earthy smell like the leaves, rotten.

881
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:30,559
Speaker 4: Leaves, and so it has a it has an odor.

882
00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:35,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, well let's uh, let's get to the

883
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,519
try to get to the next one, Miss Chris Blaylock.

884
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:41,559
Speaker 5: Was that foot found in water?

885
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 4: It was found that.

886
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,639
Speaker 3: The water falls in the Yeah it was it.

887
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:53,119
Speaker 4: Was in the water.

888
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Jeremy, my grandson is standing here. Who he

889
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,400
is the one that found it?

890
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:07,159
Speaker 1: You says, yes, okay, okay, all right, Troy. Are there

891
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:09,480
caves near where the footprint was found?

892
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,199
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we live on top of the cave system here.

893
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:16,159
There's massive caves here.

894
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:23,119
Speaker 5: Okay their acts? Was there more hair lift at the waterfall?

895
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,960
Was there more hair lift at the waterfall?

896
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: There is more hair there that we did not pool.

897
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,519
Speaker 3: I I haven't had a chance to go. I've been

898
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:35,320
taking I have a cousin has cancer and I take

899
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,079
her every day for cancer treatment, and my weekends is

900
00:50:40,159 --> 00:50:44,000
my free time. But that's also the time I gotta

901
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,039
do everything else at home.

902
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:46,519
Speaker 4: And I didn't do the all week.

903
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,519
Speaker 3: So I haven't had a chance to go back. And

904
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:52,079
I didn't want my son to go by myself. So

905
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:56,880
there where I can walk through the woods and I'm safe.

906
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:04,159
The watchers can get a little more unfriendly to him,

907
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:09,519
shall I say? You know, he doesn't he doesn't bother anybody.

908
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,599
But he was actually working up by the barns, and

909
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:21,079
that was day before yesterday, and he had He's like, Mama,

910
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:25,000
I'll tell you it's in the tree. It actually broke

911
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:28,960
a tree limb of high above where he was at,

912
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,639
and this tree limb was probably by eightiach tree limbs fairly,

913
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,559
which if it would have came down and hit him,

914
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:42,599
it probably would have killed him. I mean, so sometimes

915
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:45,639
they don't like people being real close to me. That's

916
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:53,199
another thing. So I don't know whether they were just

917
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,800
protesting him being in that area at that time, or

918
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,559
whether they were after more of my chickens.

919
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 4: So are you know? But so I don't. I just

920
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,719
don't want him to get by hisself. I'll go back with.

921
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,679
Speaker 1: Him, all right. Moving to the next one, mister Troy,

922
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,440
How deep underground was the hair buried or slash covered?

923
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:18,280
What was the substrate lot where the plants growing on

924
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,480
top of it? Do you have any pictures of it

925
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:22,239
being removed?

926
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 4: No, I didn't have anything with me.

927
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: I did not, And as you I told you, I

928
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,440
took a picture of the hair when I got home

929
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,119
and didn't know nothing would work. But what it was

930
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,079
it was like seeing something sticking off from it, or

931
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,800
like mossy, you know.

932
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: It was.

933
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: It's been there long enough for some foliage to grow

934
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:46,519
and some it's like mossy and over top of it.

935
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:47,599
Speaker 4: Uh, it wasn't real deep.

936
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: But again we had the flooding which washed that area out,

937
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,119
so it could have been down even deeper in the ground.

938
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:59,079
But with the you know, with the because it comes,

939
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:03,199
the water comes, and we've had a lot in this area,

940
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,400
so that it was like he just runched down and

941
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,159
started pulling, you know, just like a rope pull pull,

942
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,159
and it's just coming more.

943
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,519
Speaker 4: And more and more, and it's.

944
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: Getting bigger and bigger, and that's why. And he actually

945
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,280
kind of broke it off, uh from you know where,

946
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,920
So there quite possibly is something else down in there

947
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,079
when I think about it, you know, with and in

948
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:38,960
regards to seeing them and their you know, their hair.

949
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:43,519
They have long hair too, you know. Uh it's not

950
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,559
like well, I guess it would be fur, but it's

951
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,079
more hair and it hangs, you know, it hangs down.

952
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:53,960
So I, you know, I can't say that's what that is.

953
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:57,119
I don't know what it is. I you know, I'm just.

954
00:53:58,639 --> 00:53:59,159
Speaker 4: Biffled.

955
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's weird.

956
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is weird.

957
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: My buddy, Kevin, Oh my, with the research I'm doing,

958
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:12,760
this is right up my alley. I need to make

959
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,960
time with this lady, so we will get you in touch.

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00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,159
Speaker 5: Kevin.

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00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, Catherine McSwain, What does dn't I

962
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,280
think about orbs?

963
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,039
Speaker 3: I see orbs in the area, the same area. I

964
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:29,920
actually have them on my trail camps.

965
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:30,679
Speaker 2: Uh.

966
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,079
Speaker 3: I have to go up a trail to get back

967
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:37,079
up into there, and I have had massive orbs. It's

968
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:41,119
funny because they come down like they will shoot off

969
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:45,679
the side and then up the trail. They are different colors,

970
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,440
but it's almost like they're following or walking. Uh So,

971
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,079
I yeah, yeah, orbs, I see orbs.

972
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:03,039
Speaker 1: Okay, Troy, when was your first When was your very

973
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:08,119
first encounter with the being we commonly referred to as beakfoot?

974
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,760
I six six.

975
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:14,039
Speaker 3: Six years old digging roots with my dad.

976
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:17,119
Speaker 1: That's right, you shared that on the very first the

977
00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:18,320
first time you were on.

978
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: We were digging a yellow root patch and it was

979
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,280
within thirty feet of where I was setting. Me and

980
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,760
died had been digging. Like I said, you know, at

981
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,000
that time, I wanted to go to the fair, and

982
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:34,360
Dad's rules was you have to make so much your

983
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,840
own money. So he took me up there and we're

984
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,920
digging a big yellow root patch. He stood up. My

985
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,440
dad just cheered tobacco and he walked over that stump.

986
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:46,280
He took his china back out and laid on the

987
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,480
stump and he told me, Kamoo, won't go. And of course,

988
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:52,000
you know, I didn't want to go because I was

989
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,960
making my money for the fair. And I kind of

990
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,840
grumbled a little bit and he just got it by

991
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,639
the hands and you know, como won't go. And as

992
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:02,599
we walked away, I turned around and looked back and

993
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:06,360
it was probably eight foot tall. It stood up right there,

994
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:12,519
took the tobacco, and of course I'm scared. And his

995
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:14,480
dad just kind of shook my hands that come on,

996
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,440
now you leave him alone. You'll leave you lane. And

997
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,519
then he walked up through the woods and we went

998
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:23,519
the other way. And that was the first time I

999
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:27,000
saw you know, I think that was Dad's introduction for me.

1000
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,199
Speaker 4: It was time for me to learn.

1001
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,679
Speaker 3: And that was because that was what started my from

1002
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,519
then on, my teaching started. The trail marchers. I was

1003
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:40,079
always in the woods with Dad. You know, he dad

1004
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,960
trapped for living. I mean he trapped, he hunted, he

1005
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:44,760
dug the roots.

1006
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,559
Speaker 4: That was part of I.

1007
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: Mean, he had a job. He was a farmer too,

1008
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:51,320
but he also did that. My dad was worn I

1009
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,639
teen twenty seven and a log cabin.

1010
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,599
Speaker 4: In the woods. And I think he was three.

1011
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 3: Or four when he first saw his first one, so

1012
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,119
and my grandma before that.

1013
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 5: You know, that's amazing.

1014
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: Robert Mattler, my good buddy. What are your thoughts or

1015
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,920
experiences with LPs?

1016
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: And I don't know what that is? What's LP?

1017
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.

1018
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: You have to explain to you, Robert, You're gonna have

1019
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,760
to explain, buddy, hit us up, and while you were

1020
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:26,039
doing so, we will move on. A Northwest native tractor tracker.

1021
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:33,039
Do you know the lore about Gugwey, the Gougway Gugway,

1022
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:35,239
They are the ones that are called the face eaters.

1023
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,800
It's like a different type of big foot.

1024
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,519
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1025
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: Well, I do know there is different sizes. They look different,

1026
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,480
Like the one thing I was telling you about last summer,

1027
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,480
the one that I saw then was entirely different from

1028
00:57:56,519 --> 00:57:58,920
the ones I'm familiar with here. Mine are big and

1029
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:05,000
strong and harry and and she was more feminine, more

1030
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:12,440
human like features, with more human features. So I do

1031
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:17,280
know there's different you know, I guess maybe it's just

1032
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,280
like us, we have different races and maybe they.

1033
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's what I would think right.

1034
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:30,599
Speaker 1: Lastly from Robert, do you feel protected in the woods.

1035
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm cautious. I'm not.

1036
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,119
Speaker 4: You know, I carry a gun.

1037
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't shoot now snake or coyote or something like

1038
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,960
that's coming out in a bobcat. I'll defend myself. And yes,

1039
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:47,559
I am a good shot. I've been taught well. But

1040
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,239
I think as far as shooting one of the watchers,

1041
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:57,000
it would probably be non beneficial at all because I

1042
00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:01,039
don't think a normal It have to be something very

1043
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:03,400
big and you'd have to hit them in the right spot.

1044
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,159
I know that. I call it the shimmer. They can

1045
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:10,760
be standing right close to you and turn sideways and

1046
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,519
you won't see them. They have that ability. It's I

1047
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:17,159
don't think I think it's like a chameleon type thing,

1048
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:22,480
like it's one of their protections. I don't think it's

1049
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,719
magical or whatever. I think it's just part of their

1050
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:31,280
ability to hide. You know, we got the Yeah, so

1051
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,880
the chameleon can hide right in plays like a snake

1052
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:38,320
can be laying at your feet and you won't see it.

1053
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:44,559
Speaker 5: You know, you're right, all right, Donna?

1054
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:49,159
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you're working on any projects, anything

1055
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:52,199
you want to promote, anything you want to just share

1056
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,480
for people to go check out.

1057
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: Well.

1058
00:59:56,519 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: Again, the reason I do this is Watchers means a

1059
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,000
lot to me. They're my family. We have a lot

1060
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:07,599
of things going in. The world is changing, and with

1061
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:11,679
the world changes and are forest coming down and people

1062
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:15,519
putting more homes in, there's gonna be more interactions. And

1063
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:20,039
I'm not I'm not out here to make money or

1064
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,360
or be famous or anything like that. The only thing

1065
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,639
I want to do is to make sure that everybody's

1066
01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:29,880
predicted because one day, you know, somebody's gonna move into

1067
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,559
the woods, they're going to have a home or have

1068
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:33,960
a child in the yard, and one of these guys

1069
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,480
are going to walk out and they're going to freak out.

1070
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:43,079
And yeah, just said they are unpredictable. Mostly they'll leave

1071
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:44,800
you alone if you leave them alone.

1072
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: But the real quick Donna the Wood, getting back to

1073
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:52,440
the question from Robert with the LPs, he was talking

1074
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,800
about the little people. Oh, I have any experience with those.

1075
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,559
Speaker 3: I My grandpa was an irishman. He came here in

1076
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,880
the seventeen hundreds. He was the first one that married

1077
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:10,159
the Shawnee woman. So yeah, we We love some stories

1078
01:01:10,199 --> 01:01:16,239
of the little people and different things you know that's

1079
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:21,599
been shared that way. Mine is mostly the Native heritage,

1080
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,719
but I do have my.

1081
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:27,079
Speaker 4: Grandpa. They called him Redbill, had.

1082
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: Fire red hair and big red beard, and he's buried

1083
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,800
in the woods. So I visited his grave and still

1084
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:42,880
tended and that was I have letters from seventeen ninety seven. Wow,

1085
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:47,239
I'm handed down to me, so they've been very well preserved.

1086
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,079
Speaker 1: And so yeah, well, Donna, thank you so much, ma'am.

1087
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:54,519
We're taking the time to come and hang out with

1088
01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:58,320
us again. Very very interesting stuff. I can't get enough

1089
01:01:58,679 --> 01:02:01,880
of the Native America and step anybody I can talk

1090
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,480
to to learn more, I want to. So I greatly

1091
01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:06,400
appreciate your time.

1092
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:06,639
Speaker 3: Man.

1093
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I've had a great time. Thank you for having me.

1094
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:12,599
Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, thank you so much. You enjoy the rest

1095
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:13,400
of your evening.

1096
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,719
Speaker 4: Hi we on YouTube.

1097
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 5: All right, bye.

1098
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:21,679
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1099
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:25,960
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1117
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Speaker 6: Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at

1118
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:49,039
end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering breeze, Secrets

1119
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:59,360
kept by ain, shoot trees, dog man house echoes in

1120
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:01,280
silent too.

1121
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:03,639
Speaker 1: Tracks.

1122
01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:10,639
Speaker 6: We five, but answers none. Hunt the truth that's just begun.

1123
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:27,519
We're searching past the fire light. Four creatures hidden out

1124
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:35,199
of sight in the forest heart where shadows lay seeking

1125
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:45,760
see chrits in the twilight through the fall a shape

1126
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:55,000
did glye skin walker eyes wide, legends of Oh, we

1127
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:03,480
chase to night in the dark. Our lanterns right by

1128
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:10,639
the cree quil water spill whispers rye. The windsow chill,

1129
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:17,760
full of steep man tails on top in this land,

1130
01:05:18,159 --> 01:05:32,280
the myths of old. We're searching past the fire light

1131
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:40,559
full creatures hidden out of sight in the forest hard

1132
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:47,199
where shadows lay, seeking sea chrits. In the twilight break,

1133
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,960
it is as