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Speaker 2: Today on the blog Last chance to join us on
Speaker 2: the Mandy Cootnall Adventure to Japan. Dave Frasier joins for
Speaker 2: Weather Wednesday. Jeff Coo gas lights parents, Kyle Clark tried
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Speaker 2: the governor's selling. No, Trump didn't turn off Medicaid. Taytay
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Speaker 2: bill out of committee. The executive orders are coming at
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Speaker 2: Lighthouse welcomes new media, baseball team uses doorbell to wake
Speaker 2: up the dogs, and ninety year old life advice. Those
Speaker 2: are the headlines on the blog. A little bit dizzy
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 6: A little as the band killed the tube of players.
Speaker 6: I know, Oh, I know, he's fine.
Speaker 2: He's got those giant cheeks though you can store a
Speaker 2: lot of air in there. It's fine, totally fine, you know.
Speaker 2: On this on the blog, I often share videos from
Speaker 2: this kid in Canada where he just stops people on
Speaker 2: the streets and ask them life advice. And it usually
Speaker 2: stops older people, and he asked them the same kind
Speaker 2: of questions like what did you worry about too much
Speaker 2: when you were young that you regret now? Or you know,
Speaker 2: what do you regret the most? Or you know it
Speaker 2: just really interesting questions because the answers are all different,
Speaker 2: though they're all very similar. So I love these videos
Speaker 2: and there's a really good one today by a couple
Speaker 2: of ninety year olds they've been married for sixty seven years.
Speaker 2: And it just I find this stuff so useful and
Speaker 2: I love it because in our culture we worship youth.
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with
Speaker 2: youth except it doesn't have an life experience under its
Speaker 2: belt to understand the areas where it is glaringly wrong.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I oh to be young again
Speaker 2: with it, Like everybody says, Oh if I knew what
Speaker 2: I knew now, but I could be young again. Oh,
Speaker 2: we take over the world because you have to be
Speaker 2: you know, kind of that youthful exuberance requires a lack
Speaker 2: of a knowledge set that you simply cannot have gained
Speaker 2: yet because you don't have enough years under your belt.
Speaker 2: And these videos are the exact opposite. They go to
Speaker 2: the people who have a lifetime of perspective and they
Speaker 2: and they ask them about things, and they don't ask them,
Speaker 2: you know, what was your favorite job or something like that.
Speaker 2: They ask about, you know, did you work too much?
Speaker 2: Do you regret not spending more time with your kids?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's fascinating and I want to
Speaker 2: see us in the United States begin to give older
Speaker 2: people their due again. And don't get me wrong, not
Speaker 2: every older person, by just because or old, is going
Speaker 2: to be smart or wise or make good decisions. But
Speaker 2: there's value in learning from people who have the ability
Speaker 2: to look back on a long life and see exactly
Speaker 2: what they think went right and what they think went wrong.
Speaker 2: So I love those videos, and I hope you like
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Speaker 2: that it is we I just found out today. I
Speaker 2: was talking to Cruise and Tour this morning about our
Speaker 2: upcoming Japan and Korea South Korea trip, and we have
Speaker 2: six cabins. I didn't know this, but we're rapidly approaching
Speaker 2: the date where they have to give back airfare. So
Speaker 2: when we plan these trips, there are dates that you
Speaker 2: have to give back your airfare that you've already prepurchased
Speaker 2: and your extra cabins and stuff like that. So the
Speaker 2: airfare date is approaching. So if you've been thinking about it,
Speaker 2: mulling it over, you know, you know, giveing it some thought.
Speaker 2: You really want to go check it out. It's on
Speaker 2: the blog today and you can still go to Japan
Speaker 2: with us, but it's got to be like in the
Speaker 2: next couple of day to be able to take advantage
Speaker 2: of all the deal with the airfare and everything. So
Speaker 2: check that out that is on the blog, or just
Speaker 2: go to Mandy Connell trip dot com. Dave Fraser joins
Speaker 2: us for Weather Wednesday, looking forward to that. Jamie Segenberger
Speaker 2: is popping by just for a few minutes at one
Speaker 2: because he's got to call him. And yesterday, if you
Speaker 2: listen to the show yesterday, I talked about a situation
Speaker 2: that occurred in a basketball game between Denver Academy of
Speaker 2: the Torah, a Jewish school, and Lotus Academy wait, the
Speaker 2: Lotus School for Excellence. Oh shoot, I can't remember what
Speaker 2: it's called. Lotus Academy for Excellence, a charter school in Aurora.
Speaker 2: And what happened was a coach of a basketball team
Speaker 2: took it upon himself to hang up a Palestinian flag
Speaker 2: at the basketball game and refused to shake hands with
Speaker 2: the coach after the game. And it seems by the
Speaker 2: video replay that the coach was the one at fault
Speaker 2: here he has been suspended, but the Lotus School just
Speaker 2: jumped on it. They were very transparent. They immediately put
Speaker 2: out a letter to parents with what was going on.
Speaker 2: They went to the Denver Academy of the Torah and
Speaker 2: met with them. I mean, they just they did everything
Speaker 2: the right way. And so when you compare that with
Speaker 2: what has happened to Jeff Co when their third in
Speaker 2: command of Jeff Co's schools, just around Christmas was found
Speaker 2: to be being investigated for possession of child sexual abuse material,
Speaker 2: so child pornography. He has since died in appearance suicide.
Speaker 2: And Jeff Co's schools did everything the exact wrong way,
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Segerberger's written a column about it, and it's
Speaker 2: so it's so frustrating to me because I want to
Speaker 2: be able to have faith in my governmental institutions. I do.
Speaker 2: I really do not blind faith. I'm not stupid, but
Speaker 2: I'd like to be able to have a general sense
Speaker 2: that these institutions were working on my behalf and I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily feel that. With many different institutions and the
Speaker 2: school districts in this state, some of them are focused
Speaker 2: like a laser on all the wrong things, and Jeffco
Speaker 2: Schools is one of them, and they've worked so hard
Speaker 2: to shut down parents who disagree with the direction that
Speaker 2: the school board is going that it just makes me
Speaker 2: suspect everything they do. The only way to have people
Speaker 2: be able to trust you is to be completely transparent,
Speaker 2: especially if you're a public institution. Anytime it looks for
Speaker 2: a second like you're trying to hide something or obfusekate
Speaker 2: something to keep it out of the public eye, you
Speaker 2: immediately look shady. And you know what, I realize that
Speaker 2: in some cases, especially with a school district, there are
Speaker 2: student privacy issues that have to be handled, but the
Speaker 2: district hides behind those excuses when they're asked about things
Speaker 2: they don't want to talk about. When people have asked
Speaker 2: for very simple data, Okay, we want a breakdown of
Speaker 2: how many of students in fifth grade were disciplined in
Speaker 2: this way. We don't need any names or identifying information.
Speaker 2: We need to know what the kids were accused of
Speaker 2: and what happened. And they'll say, I'm sorry, that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's a student privacy issue.
Speaker 8: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: So whenever I see this kind of stuff where Jeffco
Speaker 2: schools is essentially saying, now, think about what I said.
Speaker 2: Their third in command was being investigated for child pornography
Speaker 2: and then he killed himself when he went to visit family,
Speaker 2: and yet the district was kind of mute, just moot
Speaker 2: on the whole thing. Nope, nope, we're not We're just not.
Speaker 2: And now they say, what was the holidays? Oh it
Speaker 2: was the holidays. Oh well, gosh, there was probably no
Speaker 2: parents worried about that during the holidays. It's like, dude,
Speaker 2: you have to get in front of it. You have
Speaker 2: to be Lotus, a Caate Me and Denver Academy of
Speaker 2: the Torah. You have to get in front of it.
Speaker 2: That's what they did. Transparency is the key, and they
Speaker 2: just fight it. They fight it. It makes me nuts.
Speaker 2: So that is in the column and we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: with Jimmy about that in just a few minutes. I
Speaker 2: got to give a little credit to Kyle Clark on something,
Speaker 2: and you know, I love to beat up Kyle Clark.
Speaker 2: It's fun. I mean, it's like a fun sport. And
Speaker 2: I don't mean literally, although I do think I could
Speaker 2: take him. And that's no slight on Kyle, but he
Speaker 2: is he's a slight fellow, you know, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I work out I threw him in punch. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, I'm not saying I would, just to let
Speaker 2: you know, so don't go making any bets. But I
Speaker 2: do have to give Kyle credit because Kyle was trying
Speaker 2: to pin down Governor Jared Polis on whether or not
Speaker 2: Colorado is a sanctuary state. A Rod may have my audio.
Speaker 2: Please listen to this exchange. You're gonna hear Kyle, then
Speaker 2: you're gonna hear the governor. Then you're gonna hear Kyle,
Speaker 2: then you're going to hear the governor. And Kyle is
Speaker 2: working overtime here to try and get the governor to
Speaker 2: admit what we all know. Colorado is clearly a sanctuary state.
Speaker 9: So misleading to say not in any way, shape or
Speaker 9: form is as a sanctuary state.
Speaker 10: We cooperate fully with our federal partners in all criminal matters,
Speaker 10: and we're work closely with FBI, with DEA, with ICE,
Speaker 10: always have and we always plan to because it's part
Speaker 10: of what we need to do to make Colorado safer.
Speaker 10: That being said, we also have laws in place to
Speaker 10: make sure that the federal government doesn't get to co
Speaker 10: op local law enforcement, taking them off the beat of
Speaker 10: keeping Colorado safe and preventing auto theft and drug dealing
Speaker 10: to instead force federal immigration statutes.
Speaker 9: If you're saying that we are absolutely not a sanctuary
Speaker 9: state in any way, shape or form, could you define
Speaker 9: what you would see a sanctuary jurisdiction as.
Speaker 10: Then, well, Colorado fully cooperates with any valid federal warrant,
Speaker 10: federal order. We cooperate in any way we can to
Speaker 10: get criminals off the street. And so if there are
Speaker 10: states or jurisdictions that don't, you know, I personally think
Speaker 10: that's the wrong way to go.
Speaker 2: Except we won't honor an ice detainer, so we're not
Speaker 2: following all federal orders. We're not doing that. And I
Speaker 2: got a handed to Kyle Clarke. He came right back
Speaker 2: and just basically said, okay, look if we're and what
Speaker 2: the governor said a response right there was, I can't
Speaker 2: define what a sanctuary state is, but we're not that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's am I wrong? You can text me
Speaker 2: five six six nine OERO on the Common Spirit Health
Speaker 2: text line if you'd like to disagree. But the reason
Speaker 2: I brought all that up and played that for you
Speaker 2: is hiding. Ganal is not buying what the governor is selling.
Speaker 2: And she has a great column in the Rocky Mountain
Speaker 2: Voice today she's coming in to talk about that and
Speaker 2: seless all of the ways that Colorado is indeed a
Speaker 2: sanctuary state. Now, I want to read something I found.
Speaker 2: I went to the wayback machine on the Internet today
Speaker 2: because I wanted to go back to twenty nineteen when
Speaker 2: the sanctuary state laws were being passed here in Colorado
Speaker 2: by Democrats. There was bipartisan opposition to these bills, so
Speaker 2: they were passed by Democrats, opposed by Democrats and Republicans,
Speaker 2: but not enough. This is from the Denver Post in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. While there's not a singular definition for a
Speaker 2: sanctuary city, anti sanctuary legislation in Congress usually defines it
Speaker 2: as a city that prohibits police from complying with ice detainers.
Speaker 2: By that definition, the state is made virtually every city
Speaker 2: in Colorado a sanctuary city, vulnerable to losing billions in
Speaker 2: federal grants if presidential action or legislation were to crack
Speaker 2: down on sanctuaries. So the governor is actually employing the
Speaker 2: George Costanza strategy, which is it's not a lie if
Speaker 2: you believe it. So he keeps saying over and over
Speaker 2: and over again, we're not a sanctuary state. We're not
Speaker 2: a sanctuary state, but we're clearly a sanctuary state. So
Speaker 2: we can say it as many times as he wants.
Speaker 2: But the reality is this, that's like me saying a
Speaker 2: rod your hair is green, Oh good, and you're like,
Speaker 2: we're not supposed to go along with that. You're missing
Speaker 2: the point. My whole skit it is it's green, obviously
Speaker 2: what it's obviously green. So we're just gonna end this conversation.
Speaker 2: I really think he believes we're not a sanctuary state,
Speaker 2: even though everything in reality shows. And by the way,
Speaker 2: that as they say in the South, that dog won't
Speaker 2: hunt now, especially okay, that dog won't hunt because now
Speaker 2: Denver is being called to the carpet in Congress because
Speaker 2: they're a sanctuary city. So Jared Poles can say only once,
Speaker 2: we're not a sanctuary state. He's just making up his
Speaker 2: own definition, and you don't get to do that, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm guessing that since Denver has been called to
Speaker 2: the carpet in Congress, the federal government doesn't view his
Speaker 2: denials with much credibility. So it's just really, really fascinating. Now,
Speaker 2: I do want to give Jared Police credit for one thing.
Speaker 2: He's been consistent. He keeps saying he doesn't want a
Speaker 2: sanctuary state, even as he signed the bills that made
Speaker 2: us one. So the governor this, according to his spokesperson
Speaker 2: at the time, said, has been engaging the sponsors and
Speaker 2: has articulated concerns on the draft. He will continue to
Speaker 2: review the language as the bill changes. He never clarified
Speaker 2: what he was confused about, so, I mean, the document
Speaker 2: says Police would not support prohibitions on using public money
Speaker 2: to assist in enforcing federal immigration law, nor anything that
Speaker 2: would prevent federal agents from accessing secure areas of a jail.
Speaker 2: The memo further outlines his apprehension about provisions that would
Speaker 2: prevent local governments from entering into contracts that require its
Speaker 2: employees to aid in the enforcement of federal immigration law,
Speaker 2: and elements that would prevent an officer from arresting or
Speaker 2: holding a person based on an immigration detainer. So we
Speaker 2: had concerns about it, but he still signed the bill.
Speaker 2: I mean, it didn't go into law without his signature
Speaker 2: on it. So he says one thing, but when he
Speaker 2: has a chance to actually take action to stop it,
Speaker 2: he doesn't. And I don't get that. I really don't
Speaker 2: get that. So I just we shall see what happens here.
Speaker 2: But it's been a very interesting thing to watch things
Speaker 2: that have gone on. Now. I want to talk about
Speaker 2: this executive order, a memorandum that shut off funding to
Speaker 2: a lot of programs and created a huge kerfuffle yesterday.
Speaker 2: I just heard rosstalk and about it when I was
Speaker 2: driving in And I want to say this because I
Speaker 2: only have a few minutes and then we've got weather Wednesday,
Speaker 2: so I'll probably come back to this later in the show.
Speaker 2: They have now rescinded yesterday's memo, and a lot of
Speaker 2: people are viewing this as a massive misstep. It was
Speaker 2: a terrible mistake in whatever. Here's how I view this.
Speaker 2: Trump has been throwing everything against the wall everything, and
Speaker 2: this is an example of something that the Democrats have
Speaker 2: done very very well for a really long time. I
Speaker 2: call it thrust and retreat. It's throws something so onerous
Speaker 2: out there. You keep pushing the limits, pushing the limits,
Speaker 2: pushing the limits, and then you finally hit the limit.
Speaker 2: You hit something so onerous that it creates a huge kerfuffle,
Speaker 2: and instead of fighting for it, arguing for it in court,
Speaker 2: the Trump White House said, Okay, we hit the limit,
Speaker 2: back it up, we send it, and we'll move on.
Speaker 2: But now they know then, now they know where that
Speaker 2: pushback starts. I got to tell you, I think Donald
Speaker 2: Trump has been plotting the first hundred days of his
Speaker 2: return since he did not win in twenty twenty. And
Speaker 2: we're seeing it. And I think they have a long
Speaker 2: term strategy that we are not privy to yet. So
Speaker 2: I don't see it as a massive defeat. I see
Speaker 2: it as a as a test. Let's see what happens
Speaker 2: if we do this. Now, you guys, you see what
Speaker 2: else is happening. Though there was this huge kerfuffle about
Speaker 2: cutting off funding all these programs, you know what else happened.
Speaker 2: He's basically offering federal employees the opportunity to get paid
Speaker 2: till September if they quit by February fifth. He is
Speaker 2: about to slash the size of the federal government. And
Speaker 2: we're over here talking about a memo that's already been rescinded.
Speaker 2: I think we're watching a level of strategic thinking here
Speaker 2: that we have not seen in a white house in
Speaker 2: a very long time. And you know a lot of it.
Speaker 2: I said this yesterday. Not everything he's doing will be
Speaker 2: found to be legal. Some of it will be rescinded,
Speaker 2: some of it will be struck down, but not all
Speaker 2: of it will. And a lot of the stuff that's
Speaker 2: happening right now are things that people like me have
Speaker 2: been begging for for so long, and they're finally happening,
Speaker 2: at least temporarily. Anyway, all right, we're going to take
Speaker 2: time out. We got Dave Fraser coming up from Fox
Speaker 2: thirty one because we've got weather Wednesday. If you love
Speaker 2: snow as much as I love snow, tomorrow is going
Speaker 2: to be a great day. All right. We'll talk about
Speaker 2: that with Dave right after this. Fox thirty one and
Speaker 2: Chief Meteorologist Dave Fraser. Dave, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: the weather in just a second. But I know you
Speaker 2: worked in Cincinnati, so I have got to share this
Speaker 2: horrifying story with you before we go any further. Are
Speaker 2: you ready?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good Being Cincinnati where you live there, you know
Speaker 2: about Greater's ice Cream, of course, because they're everywhere through Ohio,
Speaker 2: and you of course know about Skyline Chile, did you know?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Me neither.
Speaker 2: But now there is a limited addition, Greater's Skyline Spice
Speaker 2: ice cream and it has a water crackers in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll pass to pass on. That's I will pass.
Speaker 2: That's what I said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard you over the years challenge a rod
Speaker 3: to try things. I'll let a rod try that majority things.
Speaker 2: Well, they do say the ice cream really just tastes
Speaker 2: like cinnamon and nutmeg, which neither have a place in Chile,
Speaker 2: but an ice cream maybe, I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I saw a listener said that to me, and I
Speaker 2: was like, who anyway, So let's talk about this storm tomorrow.
Speaker 2: What are we looking at? What kind of storm is this?
Speaker 2: Where's it coming from?
Speaker 11: This is you know, every winter season there are at
Speaker 11: least a minimum of two, maybe three storms that become
Speaker 11: very very challenging from a standard from forecasting, and this.
Speaker 3: Is one of them. And the reason for that is
Speaker 3: because of the placement of the storm in southern Colorado.
Speaker 3: Denver is just on the northern fringe, and so any
Speaker 3: wobble in that northern line of snow makes a difference
Speaker 3: between who gets it and who doesn't. And there will
Speaker 3: be at cut up. I was just telling a rod.
Speaker 3: This is literally on the south and east sides of
Speaker 3: the Metro. You can be driving and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, run into a couple inches of snow. You'll
Speaker 3: go from nothing to a couple inches. So that wabble
Speaker 3: factor is the biggest challenge we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here scratching my head looking at it. I
Speaker 3: have stuff that goes the city of Denver might see
Speaker 3: some snowshowers, to the city of Denver gets nothing. I
Speaker 3: can see Castle Rock maybe getting up to an inch,
Speaker 3: but I also have computer models to give Castle Rock nothing.
Speaker 3: And then you drive east of Castle Rock towards Kyowa
Speaker 3: and there's four inches of snow. So I would just
Speaker 3: tell any of your listeners you know, if you live
Speaker 3: from Denver to say Aurora, you're probably going to see
Speaker 3: some snow. I don't know that your morning commuter is
Speaker 3: going to be impacted. I think the airport is on
Speaker 3: the extreme northern fringe of seeing some light snow showers
Speaker 3: with minimal to no accumulation, but as you go south
Speaker 3: and east of there, So I would tell you if
Speaker 3: you live in Castle Rock and live down south towards
Speaker 3: Parker driving through the gap on the south side of
Speaker 3: I twenty five, be prepared tomorrow morning. Think of Lincoln
Speaker 3: going east to Parker RidgeGate Road, Hess Road. They could
Speaker 3: have snow on them and it could be a little
Speaker 3: slick in the morning. But there's also a chance that
Speaker 3: that snow line moves just east of there and you
Speaker 3: may have to go all the way out to Lineman
Speaker 3: to find snow. So I would just say to people,
Speaker 3: be prepared on the southeast side and watch the forecast.
Speaker 3: It is going to change because of that wabble factor.
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me is we got a chance,
Speaker 2: there's a chance.
Speaker 3: What's interesting is the chances go like we've got a
Speaker 3: twenty to thirty percent chance, a low chance that Denver
Speaker 3: the city see snow, but that chance ramps up to
Speaker 3: eighty to one hundred percent as you go farther south
Speaker 3: and east. So it really is going to be about placement,
Speaker 3: and the center of this storm needs to be watched.
Speaker 3: A couple other things about it quickly. It's a southern storm,
Speaker 3: and it's a Pacific storm, which means it doesn't have
Speaker 3: a lot of cold air, so some of you may
Speaker 3: see a little bit of brain, and the overall impact
Speaker 3: of the roads is only going to be for several
Speaker 3: hours through the morning Commoe. After that, the sun's going
Speaker 3: to come out. We're going to be forty five degrees
Speaker 3: and anything that Paul's is going to melt.
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, that's what I want to hear. We're going
Speaker 2: back to like the sixties next week, aren't we.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I've got as soon as this storm moves out tomorrow,
Speaker 11: I'm going.
Speaker 3: Fifty seven on Friday, fifty nine Saturday, sixty, sixty two
Speaker 3: on Sunday, and still near sixty on Monday, and then
Speaker 3: night Tuesday Wednesday, we'll get a little weak cold front
Speaker 3: that kind of backs in and we'll trim the temperatures
Speaker 3: back into the forties, which is seasonal. And listen, we're
Speaker 3: doing great. I don't know if I caught up with
Speaker 3: you last time, because we had the snow over this
Speaker 3: past weekend. We've got thirteen point three inches of snow.
Speaker 3: We are the fourteenth snowiest January on record and also
Speaker 3: coming in as the fifteenth coldest. And if you remember,
Speaker 3: back in December we talked about the long range.
Speaker 2: Outlook, what was it.
Speaker 3: Dry and winter?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why I did not have it.
Speaker 2: I mean, Dave, I know people like to make fun
Speaker 2: of meteorologists like you're wrong half the time or whatever,
Speaker 2: But I mean, do you ever just like kind of
Speaker 2: want to just slap your forehead and go, okay, you know, okay, God,
Speaker 2: I'm humbled. You know, I get it. We're just guessing
Speaker 2: here because it's got to be super frustrating doing what
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but it comes with the territory. So
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to have a thick skin, and
Speaker 3: you have to if you're going to be a meteorologics,
Speaker 3: you have to accept the fact that you will be
Speaker 3: wrong right just the way things are. And we use
Speaker 3: computers as guidance. We don't hang our hat on one
Speaker 3: computer model. We analyze all of them and try and
Speaker 3: find a sweet spot, which is what I'm doing today,
Speaker 3: and it can be frustrating. Some are easy, some are
Speaker 3: a little more challenging, and some are downright tough. And
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you hit the putt and it comes
Speaker 3: up and look short. But you know what, I think,
Speaker 3: as long as we message, just as I did the
Speaker 3: cautionary tale of Hey, if you live south and east
Speaker 3: of Denver, be for hair for some slick roads in
Speaker 3: the morning. If you wake up in the roads on flick,
Speaker 3: good for you, head off to work and you've got
Speaker 3: no problems.
Speaker 2: I got a weather It's not a weather question, but
Speaker 2: it's a TV weather question, Dave. What are the black
Speaker 2: controllers the news anchors have in their hands?
Speaker 3: So we recently, at the start of the new year,
Speaker 3: we used to have a teleprompter operators, somebody that would
Speaker 3: sit and control the rolling scripts, the stories that the
Speaker 3: anchors read, and the teleprompter. We have moved away from
Speaker 3: that to the anchors and the reporters who are in
Speaker 3: studio controlling it themselves. So the black controller you're seeing
Speaker 3: is then controlling it eventually what's going to happen? And
Speaker 3: this is kind of cool. The system is training itself
Speaker 3: so that AI can actually operate it based on the
Speaker 3: cadence of the person reading. Wow, those black boxes will
Speaker 3: go away and the anchor will just sit and read
Speaker 3: and an AI component will run the teleprompter for them
Speaker 3: based on their voice and their cadence and reading. So
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. AI is I heard you talking about
Speaker 3: it the other day, trying to get into it, and
Speaker 3: I've kind of peeked out of a little bit. I'm amazed,
Speaker 3: I'm a little intimidated. I don't know what it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but some example, I have friends that have already
Speaker 2: adopted like ten or twelve different AI platforms, and they're
Speaker 2: doing these incredible things, and I feel like a luddite
Speaker 2: over here with AI. I'm like, what am I doing?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I can make a tony picture.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's I feel so left behind
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I asked Jeremy Hubbard. I said, hey, Jeremy,
Speaker 3: show me how this works. I don't know what it
Speaker 3: is and everything. So he went in and funny, he
Speaker 3: put my name in and he said he asked chat
Speaker 3: GPT I think it was, and he said write a
Speaker 3: resignation letter, which I thought was funny. He says, write
Speaker 3: a resignation letter for day Fraser.
Speaker 11: And within like eight seconds, it wrote this letter.
Speaker 3: And it went obviously stand in the internet, and it
Speaker 3: found out where I worked and mentioned Fox thirty one.
Speaker 3: I talked about my years in town. I was blown away.
Speaker 3: And then Jeremy he says, watch this. He asked it
Speaker 3: to make a picture of a fifteen year old weather
Speaker 3: man and it came back with this picture.
Speaker 7: There was like this.
Speaker 3: Whirling tornado and this guy's in this tight blue suit.
Speaker 3: His hair's all fried out, like you look like you
Speaker 3: got hit by electricity. And then Jeremy took a picture
Speaker 3: and said add Dave Stace in to it, and the
Speaker 3: picture printed out seconds is amazing. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: I sat there with my jaw down, going wow. And
Speaker 3: it's crazy because it looks just like me, but it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's a little yeah, the picture. You know what,
Speaker 3: I'll text it to a rod please do.
Speaker 2: I'll put it on the blog. I'll put it on
Speaker 2: the blog with your permission so people can see it.
Speaker 2: All right, Dave Frasier, I've got one more quick question
Speaker 2: for you, and it might not be quick, but where
Speaker 2: it has to because we're amos out of time. Ask
Speaker 2: if their entire crew gets together and decides on what
Speaker 2: the forecast will be, or if they each do their
Speaker 2: own individual forecast.
Speaker 3: No, it has always been my Everybody who has interviewed
Speaker 3: with me, who becomes a part of our team knows
Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent team. There's no reason to
Speaker 3: be using one brain when we have six brains. Everybody
Speaker 3: can analyze. Some people might pick up on different things.
Speaker 3: Everybody has a different asset that they bring to the table,
Speaker 3: and we communicate. So this afternoon, when I go to work,
Speaker 3: Liz and Alden and I will scrutinize the podcast and
Speaker 3: we will talk about it and come to a opinion,
Speaker 3: and that if we have to, we will communicate on
Speaker 3: a tech spread that the entire team shares to let
Speaker 3: the morning crew know what we decided about snowfall totals,
Speaker 3: so that we can maintain a single message from the
Speaker 3: entire Pinpoint Weather team to anybody watching us on either
Speaker 3: of our stations or any platform we ship.
Speaker 2: All right, Dave Fraser, a pleasure as always. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to you next week after our little It'll be delightful
Speaker 2: next week and I'll be like, Dave, thanks for bringing
Speaker 2: in the nice weather and you can totally take credit.
Speaker 3: Hey, a little preview of spring.
Speaker 11: Get ready for it?
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, that's save Fraser from box
Speaker 2: thirty one. We shall return. It's worth a trip to
Speaker 2: mandy'sblog dot com. No impostory, of course. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you guys saw any of the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 2: If I knew Secretary Caroline Levitt. But I have to say,
Speaker 2: you know, she's twenty seven years old, a rod twenty seven.
Speaker 7: She is.
Speaker 2: Very certain of herself. And I don't mean that in
Speaker 2: a bad way at all. I mean she is very
Speaker 2: She used confidence yesterday, and to be that young and
Speaker 2: to come out to that press corps and handle things
Speaker 2: like she did, it was It is such a striking
Speaker 2: change from Karrage Jean Pierre in her incoonfidence. It's almost embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Like if I were a Democrat, I would be embarrassed.
Speaker 2: If we're gonna go, uh, Press secretary versus Press secretary,
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you guys. Sean Spicer aside, that
Speaker 2: was a terrible choice, but whatever. Overall, I mean Sarah
Speaker 2: Huckabee Sanders, oh come on, I put her up against anybody,
Speaker 2: and this young woman, she's kind of, I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 2: kind of a badass. I actually put the whole conference
Speaker 2: on the blog today if you missed it. And if
Speaker 2: you're a person like me that has a favorite press
Speaker 2: secretary of all time, Aira Flesher, I'm always looking for
Speaker 2: somebody to take Airy off the throne, but I haven't
Speaker 2: found them yet. This girl has potential. She really does.
Speaker 2: My favorite was when one of the members of the
Speaker 2: press essentially said, hey, are you going to stand up
Speaker 2: there and lie? And she was like, are you going
Speaker 2: to sit down there and lie? I mean I paraphrased.
Speaker 2: She was very very very good, very good. She also
Speaker 2: just tweeted out some information that is going to be confusing.
Speaker 2: She tweeted out, this is not a recision of the
Speaker 2: federal funding freeze. It is simply a recision of the
Speaker 2: OMB memo. Why to end any confusion created by the
Speaker 2: court's injunction, the President's executive Order on federal funding remains
Speaker 2: in full force and effect and will be rigorously implemented.
Speaker 2: So maybe my thrust and retreat theory was wrong. They're
Speaker 2: barreling ahead with this, which means I have to look
Speaker 2: at strategically where they think this is going to get them.
Speaker 2: It could just be that they've decided that the fastest
Speaker 2: way to get the bad parts over with that are
Speaker 2: inevitable because of a massive contraction of government at a
Speaker 2: least a mild recession. It happened during the beginning of
Speaker 2: President Reagan's in first four years, we had a good recession.
Speaker 2: I mean, not like ya recession. I mean, it was
Speaker 2: a healthy recession, but it went straight down and straight
Speaker 2: back up. I'm wondering if they're using the rip the
Speaker 2: band aid approach off, but it is definitely creating confusion,
Speaker 2: and that's unfortunate. I appreciate trying to keep people on
Speaker 2: their heels because it makes it more difficult to fight
Speaker 2: the number of things that they're throwing against the wall
Speaker 2: right now, but nonetheless, it has to be done so
Speaker 2: you don't throw the entire system into chaos. So we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens next. I don't know what this means.
Speaker 2: Why I haven't really commented on it because I'm not
Speaker 2: clear on what all of this federal funding stuff actually
Speaker 2: does yet. I don't think anybody is or we're going
Speaker 2: to find out. We are going to find out when
Speaker 2: we get back. Jimmy Seckenberger's popping by for a few
Speaker 2: minutes because he's written a very interesting column in the
Speaker 2: Denver Gazette about Jeff Co Schools. And this is another
Speaker 2: arm of government that has decided that the people they serve,
Speaker 2: the people who send their children to Jeff Co's schools,
Speaker 2: the taxpayers whose property taxes fund their whole regime, they
Speaker 2: no longer matter, and they have been dismissive and gas
Speaker 2: lighting to parents, and Jimmy wrote a column about it,
Speaker 2: and it's not over a no big deal thing. By
Speaker 2: the way, it's a pretty big deal when your third
Speaker 2: in command gets investigative for child poor And we'll talk
Speaker 2: about all that next. Keep it right here on KOA.
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Speaker 2: here on KOA and k Hal Jimmy Singing Burger, Hello, Jimmy, Oh,
Speaker 2: why don't I wait? You know what, why don't I
Speaker 2: push the button?
Speaker 7: It just makes me happy.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad it makes you happy. It makes a
Speaker 2: rod happy to play it and me happy to hear it.
Speaker 8: So there we go, Jimmy.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that there's probably not many school districts in
Speaker 2: the metro area that don't have your face on a
Speaker 2: dark board. In some part of their of their room
Speaker 2: because of the reporting that you do about the ridiculous
Speaker 2: stuff that keeps happening.
Speaker 7: Yeah, district after district, his problem after problem, and they
Speaker 7: just seem to never learn their lessons, especially when it
Speaker 7: comes to crisis management that turns into in the case
Speaker 7: of for example, Jefferson County School's botched damage control.
Speaker 2: And we're talking about the botch damage control when Chief
Speaker 2: of Schools David Weise was found to be under investigation
Speaker 2: for possessing child pornography and this he was fired by
Speaker 2: the district on December nineteenth, and no announcement was made
Speaker 2: that I'm aware of. Maybe there's some announcement that went out,
Speaker 2: but then the media got ahold of the story and
Speaker 2: then mister Weiss dies of an alleged suicide. What's the
Speaker 2: timeline for when the district got involved in this process?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, do you mean in terms of letting the parents,
Speaker 7: family members, Yeah, yeah, the community, now, I would say
Speaker 7: any direct contact happened a couple weeks later. He was
Speaker 7: terminated from his position on the nineteenth of December, and
Speaker 7: then the word started coming out about his what is
Speaker 7: now known to be an apparent suicide on the first
Speaker 7: of January, and then I think it was the next
Speaker 7: day that the district January second, that finally put out
Speaker 7: any sort of outreach to families, to the community directly.
Speaker 7: Everything else, everything that they had heard leading up to
Speaker 7: that point, Mandy was.
Speaker 6: From the media.
Speaker 7: Although what's pretty stunning is when you have something like
Speaker 7: at this district Accountability Committee meeting last week, the chief
Speaker 7: of staff at the district, her name is Lisa Rilou.
Speaker 7: She denied that the media was notified before families, which
Speaker 7: is hotly ab third and was pressed and questioned after
Speaker 7: question by members of the DACK about this. And then
Speaker 7: finally later on when a parent said, so, can we
Speaker 7: expect that you're going to go to the media first
Speaker 7: before coming to us, she goes and says, oh, oh,
Speaker 7: so we're back to this.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: Not how you handled no like that?
Speaker 2: No, And you know, Jimi, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: heard saw the story of a basketball game kerfuffle between
Speaker 2: the Lotus Academy of Excellence and Denver Academy of the
Speaker 2: Torah and I talked yesterday about how beautifully the schools
Speaker 2: handled it right. They were completely transparent. They immediately communicated
Speaker 2: with parents via their website. I mean, they really really
Speaker 2: handled it the right way by just saying here's everything
Speaker 2: we just did so you all know exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: This is the exact opposite of what jeff Co has
Speaker 2: done over and over and over again. I mean, Jeffco
Speaker 2: was the first school district policy that I knew that
Speaker 2: was keeping information from parents when it came to children
Speaker 2: and their gender. I mean, Jeffco. Doesn't it feel a
Speaker 2: responsibility to the parents that it serves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 7: Stunning thing about this, especially when this is fascinating me.
Speaker 7: I write about this in my den or is that
Speaker 7: column yesterday? The saga that I went through to try
Speaker 7: and get a recording of this DACK meeting last Tuesday
Speaker 7: because they always record him. In fact, they've been live
Speaker 7: streaming them of late, and they didn't. And so I
Speaker 7: reached out to the chair of the DAK, who's not
Speaker 7: a district employee, who's a community member as well as
Speaker 7: a district employee, who's one of the liaisons to the DACK.
Speaker 7: And why this is important too. David Wise was the
Speaker 7: other liaison to the DAK. He worked directly with the DAK.
Speaker 7: So you can understand why parents who are on the
Speaker 7: District Accountability Committee would be particularly concerned about not hearing
Speaker 7: a peep directly from the district themselves for weeks. That's
Speaker 7: a big sensitivity. But they At first I got a
Speaker 7: response from the chair of the DACK saying I'm looking
Speaker 7: into it, trying to find out when the video is
Speaker 7: going to be posted, assuming that it was. She clearly
Speaker 7: assumed it was being recorded, which was what other members
Speaker 7: had reported to me. That it had been recorded, was
Speaker 7: their understanding. But Jessco then gets back to me in
Speaker 7: a Coorer response Open Records Act request response and says
Speaker 7: there is no recording. And I say why, And they
Speaker 7: get back to me and say, well, we had trouble recording.
Speaker 7: We're in a different room that wasn't equipped for recording,
Speaker 7: and coloredly skeptical because and I mentioned this. There was
Speaker 7: a retreat of the board on January seventh where they
Speaker 7: got together and it was during the day and very
Speaker 7: little notice, and they were talking about their communications strategy
Speaker 7: and troubles with communication. And this guy by the name
Speaker 7: of Robert Greenawalt, who is really a watchdog in Jeffco Schools,
Speaker 7: and he put in a records request for the recording
Speaker 7: of this meeting, they denied that a recording existed. Then
Speaker 7: he sent them proof that there was a recording, and
Speaker 7: they sent him the recording. Well, I'm not sure if
Speaker 7: there is there isn't really a recording.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have a lot of credibility on this issue, No,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 7: That's the thing in a crisis like this, when parents
Speaker 7: are deeply concerned, students are concerned, staff, the community about
Speaker 7: how you could have the number three in the district
Speaker 7: in this kind of situation, and this all happens, and
Speaker 7: then there's a failure of communication. I mean, it's no
Speaker 7: wonder that there is growing outrage and upset over how
Speaker 7: things have been handled here because you do this is
Speaker 7: the thing. You just gave a prime example of two
Speaker 7: schools that had an issue flare up that needed to
Speaker 7: be addressed and they immediately did it. And here the district,
Speaker 7: just like Denver Public Schools and so many others, fails
Speaker 7: to handle the moment, to meet the moment, and it's
Speaker 7: like they don't even know what to do.
Speaker 2: It's not well there when your first instinct in any
Speaker 2: situation is to hide, obfuskate, cover up that to me,
Speaker 2: it says you know what you're doing is wrong, right
Speaker 2: that that is a tacit admission of guilt of something.
Speaker 2: And maybe they're they're afraid that what they're doing is
Speaker 2: going to be misconstrued. Well, then they need to get
Speaker 2: ahead of it. They need to be making an announcement
Speaker 2: about what they're doing, why they're doing it. They're never
Speaker 2: going to regain the trust of the people of jeff
Speaker 2: Co unless they change their ways significantly right now. And
Speaker 2: I have a feeling you're gonna have something to do
Speaker 2: with that, Jimmy. You keep amplifying this stuff and you're
Speaker 2: doing a great job with it.
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate it. I think really they say sunlight
Speaker 7: is the best disinfectant, and it is so true when
Speaker 7: you talk about those schools and what happened at that
Speaker 7: game and how they responded to it. I think that
Speaker 7: in part is because when you are are they both
Speaker 7: charter schools? Both of them?
Speaker 12: Ah?
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, I think.
Speaker 2: Denver Academy the tour is a chart. It might be
Speaker 2: a private school.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure, private school, private school, but they're charter
Speaker 7: or private, they have more direct accountability and responsiveness that
Speaker 7: has to come to parents that are there going to
Speaker 7: get from school district employees or members of the school
Speaker 7: board that have some kind of insulation and no way.
Speaker 7: You know, we're the second largest school district in the
Speaker 7: state of Colorado. We can kind of get away with
Speaker 7: this stuff. Well, they are starting to find out from
Speaker 7: parent pushback, from my reporting in the Denver Gazad from
Speaker 7: what we're talking on the radio and all of that,
Speaker 7: that actually, you're not going to get away with it
Speaker 7: not anymore.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 2: Amen to that, Jimmy. I appreciate your time today and
Speaker 2: great column. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 7: Thank you, my friends.
Speaker 2: All right, that is Jimmy Sangenberger and linked to his
Speaker 2: column today. But it's just it's another example of you know,
Speaker 2: whenever anybody tries to hide something, it just makes whatever
Speaker 2: else is happening a million times worse.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're a kid and you you try
Speaker 2: and pull a fastmot on your parents because you've decided,
Speaker 2: you know, at the ripe old age of like six,
Speaker 2: you can outsmart those old cogers, right, and your parents
Speaker 2: tell you, at least this is what my parents told me.
Speaker 2: It was one of those situations where something had happened.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to blame my little brother, and my mom
Speaker 2: was like, look, because my mom always talked us to
Speaker 2: us like little adults. There was never any like kid
Speaker 2: talk or baby talk in our house. She was like, look,
Speaker 2: you did something wrong, and if you had just owned
Speaker 2: up to it, we could have fixed the problem and
Speaker 2: then you could have gone about your day. But instead
Speaker 2: you chose to lie about it, and now it's a
Speaker 2: million times worse. And this is how I feel like
Speaker 2: with all of these governmental institutions that are anything other
Speaker 2: than please, here's everything you want to know about everything
Speaker 2: that happens. I don't trust them when they try and
Speaker 2: hide stuff. And I keep talking about these stories and
Speaker 2: the hopes that it would be the last time we
Speaker 2: talk about a story like this, but it never is.
Speaker 2: That's the sad thing. So I want to talk about
Speaker 2: one form of open government being commandeered by protesters, and
Speaker 2: this has to do with the Aurora City Council. The
Speaker 2: Aurora City Council has been dealing with protesters at every
Speaker 2: meet at every meeting, and they are a group of
Speaker 2: people and family members of killing Lewis, who police were
Speaker 2: trying to arrest on an attempted murder warrant. They asked
Speaker 2: him to turn around, and I watched the body cam
Speaker 2: video of this, so this is a fairly accurate description
Speaker 2: of what's going on. He had his back to them,
Speaker 2: he was inside a car or reaching into a car.
Speaker 2: They said turn around with your hands up. He turned
Speaker 2: around with his hand in his belt or his pocket
Speaker 2: to get his cell phone, which was a dumb thing
Speaker 2: to do, and police opened fire. It was investigated. The
Speaker 2: District attorney said it was justified shooting, and everybody likes
Speaker 2: to judge the cops, but you're going to pick someone
Speaker 2: up for attempted murder. You're not going to pick someone
Speaker 2: up for jaywalking. This is a violent crime this man
Speaker 2: has been accused of. And so the officers were cleared
Speaker 2: and the family and friends of killing Lewis are very
Speaker 2: unhappy about that, and they want the Aurora City Council
Speaker 2: to do something. I mean, this is the thing I
Speaker 2: don't understand. The Aurora City Council should not ever order
Speaker 2: the District Attorney's office to prosecute someone because protesters show
Speaker 2: up at the Aurora City Council. So I'm not quite
Speaker 2: sure what they're looking for here. But if the DA
Speaker 2: thought it was a winnable manslaughter or even murder case,
Speaker 2: the DA would have file charges. But I watched the video,
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't wish anyone would ill will.
Speaker 2: I don't wish anyone dead, even if they're accused of
Speaker 2: attempted murder. I don't want that. I don't want police
Speaker 2: officers to have to go through the process and the
Speaker 2: impact that taking another life has on a police officer.
Speaker 2: I don't want any of that to happen. But I
Speaker 2: also understand police officers who want to go home to
Speaker 2: their families and not die. I absolutely get that. It's
Speaker 2: a pretty pretty strong thing. Well, here come killing Lewis's
Speaker 2: people to protest every week, and the Auror City Council
Speaker 2: for many weeks allowed them to come in and make
Speaker 2: these comments and go well beyond their speaking time. They've
Speaker 2: been very disrespectful of the rules of decorum for the
Speaker 2: Auror City Council, and the Auror City Council gave them
Speaker 2: some leeway, and now they're out of patience, so they've
Speaker 2: made rule changes to try and rain this in. The
Speaker 2: protesters are not paying attention to the rules, so now
Speaker 2: they're doing virtual meetings because the Aurora ped said we
Speaker 2: can't necessarily guarantee your safety. We don't know what these
Speaker 2: people might do, so now they're going to virtual meetings.
Speaker 2: And I'm here to just ask this question. Who among
Speaker 2: you has been persuaded by someone standing and yelling in
Speaker 2: your face over and over and over again, because I've
Speaker 2: never been persuaded by that, never once. And I don't
Speaker 2: know exactly what these protesters think is going to happen.
Speaker 2: And I just think this is their way of expressing
Speaker 2: their grief or expressing their frustration, or, in the case
Speaker 2: of Tay Anderson, an opportunity to get his faced on TV,
Speaker 2: because of course he's there. By the way, Tay has
Speaker 2: a job. You know, we've always wondered because what was
Speaker 2: his all GoFundMe campaigns to buy diapers for his child.
Speaker 2: He has a job now at Manuel Middle School. If
Speaker 2: you have girls at Manuel Middle School, tell them to
Speaker 2: watch out, as we already know that when he was
Speaker 2: on the Denver Public School Board, he was found to
Speaker 2: be exchanging creepy messages at a sixteen year old girl.
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing that out there as a warning. He's
Speaker 2: the restorative justice coordinator. Restorative justice is one of those
Speaker 2: things that sounds amazing on paper, but it requires a
Speaker 2: herculean effort by all kinds of people at one time,
Speaker 2: and it's not a realistic situation. And I think it
Speaker 2: is a huge reason that discipline in schools is out
Speaker 2: of control because there are no repercussions. There are conversations,
Speaker 2: they make him say sorry and all that. It's just
Speaker 2: it's it's asinine. It's really asinine. And it's been successful
Speaker 2: in very small school situations, and they try to put
Speaker 2: into very big school situations and it doesn't work. But
Speaker 2: of course, Tay Anderson a restorative justice coordinator at Manual
Speaker 2: High School, so good for him. You won't have to
Speaker 2: do any more gofundmes in the near future, so we
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I'm gonna move on because I
Speaker 2: don't want to. I'm trying not to beat dead horses,
Speaker 2: you guys, although I do have another dead horse story
Speaker 2: at the bottom or on the blog. Today, joy Overbeck
Speaker 2: wrote a really great column about exactly how Dave Williams
Speaker 2: is trying to remake the Colorado Republican Party tomorrow, as
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, by calling a meeting before new
Speaker 2: officers are elected in order to remake everything about the
Speaker 2: Republican Party structure so he can try and remain in power.
Speaker 2: That's all I can is that he's trying to remain
Speaker 2: in power, and I think he's seeing tomorrow. If enough
Speaker 2: people show up to vote for these changes, then he'll
Speaker 2: run for reelection. But if they don't, then he won't,
Speaker 2: and maybe he'll recognize that his political career is over.
Speaker 2: I certainly hope. So I don't know. Okay, put the
Speaker 2: dead horse back in the closet. It's fine, It's absolutely fine.
Speaker 2: So I want to talk about Mayor Mike Johnston real quick.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spend a lot of time on
Speaker 2: this either. Mayor Mike has found himself in a bit
Speaker 2: of a pickle. He has taught he has written a
Speaker 2: bunch of checks. As my mom used to love the
Speaker 2: phrase that man wrote a bunch of checks that his
Speaker 2: ass cannot cash. Not talking about actual money, but that
Speaker 2: is exactly what Mayor Mike Johnston has done, and he's
Speaker 2: continuing to do it continuing.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: We already know he's been called to Congress. He's gonna
Speaker 2: have to testify. I don't have the sanctuary status of Denver.
Speaker 2: No word on if he's gonna bring fifty thousand Highland
Speaker 2: moms with him to Congress. By the way, I've been
Speaker 2: thinking about that statement for like three weeks now, right
Speaker 2: since he said, you know, if the Fed sho it,
Speaker 2: we won't even have to send the police because fifty
Speaker 2: thousand Island moms would be at the border to stop
Speaker 2: the FEDS from do an immigration enforcing It was a
Speaker 2: dumb thing to say, and he even said at one point,
Speaker 2: I'll go to jail. And you know what Tom Homan
Speaker 2: is like, Okay, get in my way. I'll put you
Speaker 2: in jail. I'll be happy to do that. So I
Speaker 2: thought about that statement about the Highland moms, and I'm
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, I think that Mayor Mike Kaufman is
Speaker 2: the mayor of all those Highland moms who get together
Speaker 2: to play bunko or majong. You know, they get together
Speaker 2: and they talk about stuff, and then they have the
Speaker 2: mayor's ear, and that's who he's governing for. He has
Speaker 2: now come out to tout on CNN. He was on
Speaker 2: with Jake Tapper and he actually said the following words.
Speaker 2: He said, Denver had been and this is a quote,
Speaker 2: very aggressive on enforcement on gang activity. And this was
Speaker 2: in response to a question about Trendy Arragua, the Venezuelan
Speaker 2: gang that is running rampant in Denver and Arora. He said,
Speaker 2: this is also a quote. We were early with covert
Speaker 2: and overt operations in Denver to identify TDA numbers, arrest them,
Speaker 2: prosecute them. So we've been very aggressive on this. He
Speaker 2: said the same thing back in August, at the same
Speaker 2: time he was telling us this wasn't a problem. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I miss it, but as Denver PD
Speaker 2: done a bunch of arrests of TDA, because all I
Speaker 2: remember is that the DEA did their operation this week
Speaker 2: and arrested a bunch of them. The ringleader of the
Speaker 2: apartment complexes that were taken over was just arrested in
Speaker 2: New York. So I mean, maybe there's a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff going on. We said this at the time, Maybe
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff going on under the surface,
Speaker 2: but it certainly does seem to be a weird thing
Speaker 2: for him to take credit for now. So in a
Speaker 2: joint interview with Mike Kaufman in August, the mayors told
Speaker 2: nine News that exaggerated an inaccurate news coverage at the
Speaker 2: Venezuelan gang crisis was creating hysteria that made it more
Speaker 2: difficult for the cities to combat TDA. Johnston said at
Speaker 2: the time, the threat from TDA in Denver, it's smaller
Speaker 2: than many other organized criminal networks that might have been
Speaker 2: here for decades, the one you know, like the Bloods
Speaker 2: or the Crypts or others, and so we're monitoring it closely.
Speaker 2: You know, we've not monitored that. I'd really like to
Speaker 2: see an answer to were any of the Venezuelan migrants
Speaker 2: that Denver paid a non governmental organization to place in housing?
Speaker 2: Were any of them placed? Were any of them gang members?
Speaker 2: Did we pay to get these people into these apartment complexes?
Speaker 2: Has anybody asked that question? Has it been answered? I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I think we need to find out.
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be a real kick in the pants,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it to find out that not only is a
Speaker 2: Venezuelan prison game active in Aurora in Denver, but we,
Speaker 2: the taxpayers, paid to give them a place to take
Speaker 2: over after they moved in. So you know, ooh, right
Speaker 2: now on Fox News they're showing a Dea police operation.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is now No. I think
Speaker 2: that's a couple times I think that might have been
Speaker 2: the bus the other day. I don't know, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong. I mean, if Denver has been working on
Speaker 2: this super hard in the background and Denver pet is
Speaker 2: doing over it and covert operations, I'm thrilled about that,
Speaker 2: absolutely thrilled. But it also makes me look back at
Speaker 2: August and go, well, then why did you gaslight everyone?
Speaker 2: Why did you gaslight Danielle Drinsky? If you already knew
Speaker 2: it was a problem, why did you hang her out
Speaker 2: to dry? And don't give me the we couldn't compromise
Speaker 2: the operations. Admitting they were here isn't compromising an operation.
Speaker 2: Admitting they're here and saying yeah, we know they're here
Speaker 2: and we're working on it isn't compromising an operation. But
Speaker 2: they chose to do the exact opposite. And this is
Speaker 2: exactly what we were talking about with JEFCO schools. When
Speaker 2: government tries to obfuscate, when they try to cover things up,
Speaker 2: I don't like it, you know. Yesterday in the press conference,
Speaker 2: one of the first things that Carolyn Levitt said, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's leather or leave it, I
Speaker 2: need to look. One of the first things she said
Speaker 2: was those drones in New Jersey. They were all authorized
Speaker 2: by the FAA to conduct research and other activities. Why
Speaker 2: didn't the Biden administration just tell us that? I think
Speaker 2: I know they wanted to distract us from a bunch
Speaker 2: of pardons preemptively for family members, so they just let
Speaker 2: us wonder if we were being invaded. That seems like
Speaker 2: a great way to run a trustworthy government, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: When we get back, I'm super excited. One of the
Speaker 2: representatives is joining us to talk about a bill that
Speaker 2: is making its way through and it's about a cell
Speaker 2: phone ban for schools. And I realize that many of
Speaker 2: you disagree with this. I think that now let me
Speaker 2: walk that back. It is not about a cell.
Speaker 6: Phone ban for schools.
Speaker 2: It is about a new bill that would allow or
Speaker 2: require I don't know which school districts to create a
Speaker 2: cell phone policy. We're going to talk to representative legions
Speaker 2: about it next, so we'll do that right after this.
Speaker 2: Representative Megan Lukens from Steamboat Springs is joining me to
Speaker 2: talk about her bill that would allow school districts to
Speaker 2: create a cell phone policy. Representative Lukens, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: First of all, Hi, Well, thank you so much. I
Speaker 2: just want you to know where I am on this
Speaker 2: particular issue. I am for cell phone bands in schools.
Speaker 2: I think cell phones are incredibly destructive, and I heard
Speaker 2: horrible things from teachers, and I'm seeing things from around
Speaker 2: the country where other districts have ban phone usage in
Speaker 2: school and the teachers and students are all on board
Speaker 2: and getting great results. Maybe not all, but most. So
Speaker 2: I'm all for this. So what does this bill actually do?
Speaker 13: So, first of all, thank you so much. I completely
Speaker 13: agree with you. Before getting elected to the Colorado House
Speaker 13: of Representatives, I was a social studies teacher at seamboat
Speaker 13: Sprims High School, and so I have seen firsthand the
Speaker 13: impact that cell phones in schools have on communities. So yes,
Speaker 13: So this bill is a local control take on cell
Speaker 13: phones in schools. And the bill mandates that school districts
Speaker 13: across the state have an effective cell phone policy in
Speaker 13: place to limit cell phones in schools. And so it
Speaker 13: gives the school boards the ability to determine what they
Speaker 13: want that policy to be. But it also is, you know,
Speaker 13: it's a local control perspective on how to do that.
Speaker 13: So it does limit cell phones in schools via the
Speaker 13: school board that makes the ultimate decision through the stakeholding
Speaker 13: process with constituents.
Speaker 2: So could a school board, in essence, say we're not
Speaker 2: going to put any restrictions on cell phones? Could that
Speaker 2: be their policy? Can ask the question again, could a
Speaker 2: school district say we're not going to put any restrictions
Speaker 2: on cell phones? Could they do that?
Speaker 13: They have to have a policy in place that limits
Speaker 13: cell phones in classrooms.
Speaker 2: Okay, when I talk about this, because I do talk
Speaker 2: about this quite a bit, I think it is a
Speaker 2: huge problem and that our kids would be so much
Speaker 2: happier if they didn't have cell phones in school. Immediately,
Speaker 2: I get a ton of pushback from parents who point out, rightly, so,
Speaker 2: we had more than our share of school shootings here,
Speaker 2: and I think parents are so freaked out about that.
Speaker 2: How do you respond to that from a parent?
Speaker 13: First of all, I would like to say that I
Speaker 13: am definitely sensitive to all of that, and I am
Speaker 13: also scared of uh, you know, gun violence and what
Speaker 13: has happened in other schools, and I'm horrified by that
Speaker 13: idea and God forbid that ever actually happen. But the
Speaker 13: first of all, when drafting the policy that school boards
Speaker 13: can put in place for they can have you know,
Speaker 13: for high school students, they can say that cell phones
Speaker 13: just need to be off and in their backpack, so
Speaker 13: if there were an emergency that were to happen, students
Speaker 13: could turn their phones on.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 13: And then also the you know, when you're in an
Speaker 13: emergency situation, sometimes you actually need to be quiet and
Speaker 13: not have people using cell phones. And so I'm definitely
Speaker 13: sensitive to that. But also we know that the the
Speaker 13: benefits overall of what limiting cell phone use in schools
Speaker 13: can do for students, for educators, for the learning environment, overall,
Speaker 13: the benefits are significant and significantly outweigh the cost. So
Speaker 13: I think that overall this system that will be put
Speaker 13: in place will help schools and maximi student learning potential.
Speaker 13: But of course if parents have those specific concerns, they
Speaker 13: can speak during public comment when their school boards are
Speaker 13: drafting up the policies that are specific and will work
Speaker 13: for their individual school district.
Speaker 2: I just watched a short documentary on a school in
Speaker 2: the UK that got all of the students to agree
Speaker 2: that for six weeks they would not use their cell
Speaker 2: phones at all, and they put them in a big
Speaker 2: bin in the middle of the like the lunch room
Speaker 2: and at the end of the six weeks, they showed
Speaker 2: a bunch of interviews with the children. So these are
Speaker 2: middle school age kids, you know, And to a child,
Speaker 2: they said, I never realized how much anxiety my phone
Speaker 2: caused me. I never realized that it prevented me from
Speaker 2: becoming friends with people that were in my classes. I
Speaker 2: feel so much better, I sleep better at night. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was pretty remarkable, and it's anecdotal, but there's more
Speaker 2: and more data out there that shows that we've got
Speaker 2: to control our kids' cell phones better than we're doing
Speaker 2: now for their own benefit.
Speaker 6: So I am all for this.
Speaker 2: Where's the bill now and what are the prospects for this?
Speaker 13: The bill actually has not been introduced yet. It is
Speaker 13: supposed to be introduced this afternoon, so we're doing a
Speaker 13: lot of press coverage to you know, get the word out.
Speaker 13: But we have been stakeholding this bill for a few
Speaker 13: months leading up to the bill being introduced, and then
Speaker 13: once it has introduced, it will be making its way
Speaker 13: through the legislative process and the Colorado House of Representatives
Speaker 13: and then hopefully it is heads over to the Colorado
Speaker 13: Senate and then to the governor.
Speaker 2: I got one question from our text line, why do
Speaker 2: school boards Wait a minute, hang on, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: that's that it it is. Why do we need pass
Speaker 2: legislation for schools to pass phone bans. Our district did
Speaker 2: it on our own several years ago. This is more
Speaker 2: to force the issue in every district.
Speaker 13: Correct, Correct, So there are some school districts that already
Speaker 13: have an effective policy in place, but we know two
Speaker 13: thirds of the largest districts in the state of Colorado
Speaker 13: do not have a policy in place. And so this still,
Speaker 13: if successful, would say that every school district needs to
Speaker 13: have a policy in place.
Speaker 2: All right, Representative Megan Luken's please keep me posted on
Speaker 2: where this bill is and how it's doing, because, as
Speaker 2: I said, I am I'm very much on board with this,
Speaker 2: but I already have some hostility on my text line.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this is a very This is a
Speaker 2: hot topic for parents. I mean, there are parents who
Speaker 2: are going to fight with every fiber of their being
Speaker 2: to make sure their kid has a cell phone because
Speaker 2: having that connection to their kid is more important in
Speaker 2: their mind than the damage of cell phone could be doing.
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a tough row, I think
Speaker 2: at the district level. But I'm hoping at least this
Speaker 2: bill can be passed to force the conversation about what
Speaker 2: we're seeing and what the science we have right now says.
Speaker 2: So let's hope it goes.
Speaker 13: Wonderful. Yes, I look forward to engaging with those folks
Speaker 13: through the democratic process, and I always am happy to
Speaker 13: take feedback.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Representative Megan Luken's. We will talk
Speaker 2: to you again hopefully about this issue.
Speaker 13: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Have a good day. You know, I know this is
Speaker 2: a very unpopular subject with some parents. And I have
Speaker 2: a high school daughter and we communicate via text message
Speaker 2: all the time. But guys, we've got the most anxious, depressed,
Speaker 2: disconnected generation ever. And the main thing that's changed between
Speaker 2: the time I was a kid and now them is
Speaker 2: that they all have a little mini computer in their
Speaker 2: pocket that separates them from the people in their immediate vicinity.
Speaker 2: And they're too young to manage this. And I love
Speaker 2: the people who say, one more thing that schools have
Speaker 2: to do that has nothing to do with education. It
Speaker 2: has everything to do with education. There was a teacher
Speaker 2: I was watching an interview on YouTube about this like
Speaker 2: two years ago, and she said that in her classroom
Speaker 2: she spends ten to fifteen percent of the time that
Speaker 2: should be spent on instruction dealing with kids on their
Speaker 2: cell phones. So yeah, it is a matter of education.
Speaker 2: It's a matter of creating an environment where kids are
Speaker 2: best going to learn, which we already know is not
Speaker 2: going as well as it could right now. Mommy needs
Speaker 2: to know we're in the school to deliver the Starbucks, Mandy.
Speaker 2: I have a senior at BVSD. The new phone band
Speaker 2: is not a good thing, and I'd love to know more.
Speaker 2: Text or why not? Why is it not a good thing?
Speaker 2: Is it an inconvenient thing? Or is it somehow harming
Speaker 2: your student and their ability to learn? Those are the
Speaker 2: questions that I have. Convenience is one thing. You know, guys,
Speaker 2: if you're gen X, you had the same childhood I did.
Speaker 2: We went to school and if we needed our parents,
Speaker 2: we walked our happy asses down to the office and
Speaker 2: we asked to call our mom or dad. That's how
Speaker 2: you did it, og style, and oddly enough, we all
Speaker 2: survived well, I mean, the fittest among us. Anyway from Ralph,
Speaker 2: I would be more inclined to limit cell phones if
Speaker 2: the idiots running schools had real arm security, combat vets,
Speaker 2: no cops. We've seen cops fail far too often, and
Speaker 2: then he followed up with it's not about convenience. We
Speaker 2: can't trust schools to protect our kids. But then there's
Speaker 2: this text message teacher here. Sheriff trains us every year
Speaker 2: for active shooter. Sheriff always states cell phone used by
Speaker 2: students during an active shooter situation is detrimental to keep
Speaker 2: being kids safe. I have two high schoolers after training.
Speaker 2: I fully support no cell phones, especially after our training.
Speaker 2: I like this one Mandy with the cell phones. My
Speaker 2: son's school has a big pocketed sheets hanging.
Speaker 6: On the doors.
Speaker 2: When they walk in, they put their phone in the
Speaker 2: pocket and it better beyond do not disturb. That's great,
Speaker 2: But when cell phone bands are school wide like the
Speaker 2: whole day, do you know what happens to kids at
Speaker 2: lunch and in the halls They start talking to each
Speaker 2: other again. I have a friend who teaches in Orange County, Florida,
Speaker 2: that's Orlando, and they instituted a cell phone ban, and
Speaker 2: she said the difference in how students connect and interact
Speaker 2: with each other is like night and day. So it's
Speaker 2: not just about being in class and paying attention. It's
Speaker 2: allowing kids to have a minute where they are not
Speaker 2: tethered to their cell phones. Seems to me having a
Speaker 2: cell phone in a classroom and an active cell phone
Speaker 2: in a classroom as a privilege. Maybe we should empower
Speaker 2: high school kids to be like college kids and let
Speaker 2: them have their phones and keep them off and be respectful.
Speaker 2: Except that's not working. That's adorable. I mean, do not
Speaker 2: have any high school students? Have you not been in
Speaker 2: a high school? I mean, that's precious, it really is.
Speaker 2: And I think for a vast majority of kids they
Speaker 2: follow the rules, but not every kid will, and then
Speaker 2: they become a disruption for the kids that are not
Speaker 2: bringing their cell phones to school. It's not working, Mandy.
Speaker 2: I work with gen xers who tell me they need
Speaker 2: their phones because they're scared. They call into work sick constantly,
Speaker 2: do the minimum of that of what is required. They
Speaker 2: have no idea how to take a phone message. And
Speaker 2: I could go on or not, and I'm gonna assume
Speaker 2: that you meant gen zers, because gen Xers we just
Speaker 2: don't answer our phones. It's fine, completely, Mandy. Do you
Speaker 2: have any control over the advertising commercials during your show?
Speaker 2: I don't know how many cars for kids ads, I
Speaker 2: can tolerate you guys. If I you know what a
Speaker 2: rod we should have started making copies of every text
Speaker 2: message we've ever gotten about cars.
Speaker 6: For kids, And I'm I don't think we have enough room.
Speaker 2: We don't have enough room. And I'm just gonna tell
Speaker 2: you guys this, And I don't normally throw an advertiser
Speaker 2: under the bus, but I have taken this to the
Speaker 2: highest levels that I have available to me as an
Speaker 2: iHeart employee, and was basically to their check's clear. It's
Speaker 2: just out of your control. So if people would stop
Speaker 2: donating cars to them from Denver and we can make
Speaker 2: it stop. Lol. Training for school shooting, what hide and
Speaker 2: wait for cops to arrive in five minutes? Yeah, yep,
Speaker 2: because they won't let armed individuals be in the schools
Speaker 2: as they should be. But none of this matters because
Speaker 2: your kid having a cell phone in a school shooting
Speaker 2: is not necessarily going to be that helpful. And in
Speaker 2: the meantime, all of those times there's not a school shooting,
Speaker 2: all of those other hundreds of days, hopefully a vast
Speaker 2: majority of children are never going to have a school
Speaker 2: shooting never, never, never, And the rest of that time,
Speaker 2: we have anxious, depressed children who can't have a conversation
Speaker 2: with the people sitting next to them. Is that better,
Speaker 2: because I don't think it is. Your comfort as a
Speaker 2: parent should not supersede what may be better for your
Speaker 2: kid in the long run. And I'm telling you, guys,
Speaker 2: there's a growing body of evidence that cell phones are
Speaker 2: an absolute disaster. Not cell phone Like, if your kid
Speaker 2: has a flip phone, no problem, whatever, it's fine. But
Speaker 2: having a smartphone and everything that brings into that kid's
Speaker 2: hand is not good. And we've done a bad job
Speaker 2: as parents. I know I have. I mean, my kid
Speaker 2: spends way too much time on our phone. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's the ongoing conversation in our household. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm just I'm looking for a reprieve for kids.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for a place where they can legitimately not
Speaker 2: answer a snap in three seconds, where they don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about anybody pinging them or anyone sending them
Speaker 2: something or you know what they're missing on Instagram. Just
Speaker 2: give them that space at school. I think they would
Speaker 2: be much happier, much much happier when we get back.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, do have a lot of stuff to talk
Speaker 2: about today, including what I think is a horrible story.
Speaker 2: Our forensics department here in Colorado is in a complete
Speaker 2: disaster situation. We're going to get into that and what
Speaker 2: that means for rape victims in Colorado and what it
Speaker 2: means for rape victims is terrible, absolutely terrible. This should
Speaker 2: be declared an emergency, and I'll explain why when we
Speaker 2: get back. Keep it on KOA.
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Speaker 2: Welcome Black, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
Speaker 2: We are making our way through a busy broadcast Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and this next story is infuriating, you guys, really infuriating.
Speaker 2: I put a lot of it on the blog, but
Speaker 2: I haven't talked about it on the show. The Colorado
Speaker 2: Bureau of Investigations forensics department is a mess, and not
Speaker 2: necessarily a mess because of any of the people working there.
Speaker 2: Right now, they get one of their chief investigators who's
Speaker 2: now facing I think like one hundred and one or
Speaker 2: one hundred and two felonies because she falsifies data, and
Speaker 2: now all of the cases that she has had anything
Speaker 2: to do with over her multi decade career are in question.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm going to talk about today. What
Speaker 2: I want to talk about is that right now, in
Speaker 2: the state of Colorado, if a woman or a man
Speaker 2: is sexually assaulted and goes to a hospital and has
Speaker 2: a rape kit done, a rape kit which would show
Speaker 2: DNA in many cases, a rape kit which is incredibly
Speaker 2: valuable to investigators and prosecutors who are trying to solve
Speaker 2: the case. Right now, in Colorado, it takes more than
Speaker 2: four hundred days before those rape kits are processed. Four
Speaker 2: hundred days. That is over a year, over a year
Speaker 2: where rape victims know that their perpetrators are still out
Speaker 2: on the street, They know that that person is still
Speaker 2: out there possibly victimizing another person, and they have no
Speaker 2: sense of closure or safety or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Four hundred days. This should be the biggest story in Colorado.
Speaker 2: This should be the thing that everyone at the capital
Speaker 2: is talking about right now. This should be the thing
Speaker 2: that the governor stands up and says, you know what,
Speaker 2: I am allocating X amount of dollars right now, and
Speaker 2: we are going to get these kits processed. We're going
Speaker 2: to get them to the ninety days that is the goal.
Speaker 2: Ninety days. That's still three months. And a friend of
Speaker 2: mine asked, how long does it take to process a
Speaker 2: rape kit? I'm like, I have no idea. I have
Speaker 2: no idea what that physical process of taking what is
Speaker 2: gathered in a rape screening and processing, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Could be thirty minutes, could be five hours, I have
Speaker 2: no idea, but four hundred days. This is one of
Speaker 2: those situations where you have to wonder why this particular
Speaker 2: form of evidence has this kind of backlog. Is it
Speaker 2: not that important? Because that would be terrible. That would
Speaker 2: be absolutely terrible. What I do know is that right
Speaker 2: now there are a lot of people working in the
Speaker 2: forensics field that are retesting. A lot of the former
Speaker 2: investigators now been charged with felonies a lot of her work,
Speaker 2: so they can't get to these rape kits. So what
Speaker 2: exactly are we going to do about it? What exactly
Speaker 2: is our Colorado legislature has found millions of ways to
Speaker 2: waste a ton of money on other crap? Are they
Speaker 2: going to put the money together by the way. Connecticut
Speaker 2: and Massachusetts both cleared their backlogs in their labs within
Speaker 2: thirty days, both of which had the same amount of
Speaker 2: kits that they are currently processing in about a year.
Speaker 2: So how did Connecticut and Massachusetts do it? Why can't
Speaker 2: we send somebody there to find out and then do it,
Speaker 2: because we're leaving people who've already been victimized, We're hanging
Speaker 2: them out to dry. And it's just it's ugh. It
Speaker 2: is very, very hard to be someone who is sexually
Speaker 2: assaulted who then has the strength and wherewithal to go
Speaker 2: to the police, to go through the added humiliation of
Speaker 2: a rape exam, which is not pleasant. And they do
Speaker 2: it because that's the only chance they're going to have
Speaker 2: to get justice, the only chances they're going to keep
Speaker 2: that peron from doing it to someone else. And so
Speaker 2: they swallow their pride and they're hurt and they upset,
Speaker 2: and they go do it, and we can't even bother
Speaker 2: to test the kits for over four hundred days. This
Speaker 2: is just you know, we have Democrats right now who
Speaker 2: are trying to push through a gun bill that is
Speaker 2: absolutely going to be challenged in court because it's the
Speaker 2: most raconian gun bill in the country if they've passed it.
Speaker 2: It flew out of committee yesterday three to two, after
Speaker 2: nine hours of people testifying, mostly against it. Of course
Speaker 2: the Democrats were, oh, yeah, we're going to do that.
Speaker 2: So they're willing to commit millions of dollars to defending
Speaker 2: a gun ban that is clearly going to be unconstitutional
Speaker 2: at some point. But they can't commit millions of dollars
Speaker 2: to get this cleared. They can't enlist the help of
Speaker 2: outside people. They can't hire someone on a contract basis
Speaker 2: to come in and help take care of this problem.
Speaker 2: And why is this okay? Why was it allowed to
Speaker 2: get to four hundred days because at some point it
Speaker 2: was maybe one hundred and twenty days. Somebody should have
Speaker 2: sounded the alarm then, but they didn't. And now it's
Speaker 2: over four hundred days, and we have women who and
Speaker 2: you know, I try to be gender neutral, because men
Speaker 2: do get sexually assaulted, but let's be real, a vast
Speaker 2: majority of these people are going to be female, like
Speaker 2: an overwhelming majority. So I want to be clear. I
Speaker 2: know that men do get sexually assaulted, but not nearly
Speaker 2: the numbers of women who are now waiting over four
Speaker 2: hundred days for the CBA to even be able to
Speaker 2: investigate their case. It's absolutely, absolutely terrible, absolutely terrible, and representative.
Speaker 2: SOAPER is working on this now representative, but buff uh,
Speaker 2: what's represented? I think it's Matthew Soper for some reason,
Speaker 2: I can't remember his first name, but he's working on it.
Speaker 2: He's now returning legislation that he filed in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: He co sponsored protect Survivor's Rights to rape KIP evidence
Speaker 2: to ensure victims are notified before evidence is destroyed, and
Speaker 2: after he heard testimony from rape victims, he realized we
Speaker 2: are not doing enough. And he's absolutely right. So this
Speaker 2: is an absolute mess. I certainly hope others at the
Speaker 2: capital are paying attention to this because it's shameful. By
Speaker 2: the way, our wreck, our levels of sexual assault are
Speaker 2: pretty high compared to other states. So yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 2: got that going for us when we get back. You know,
Speaker 2: President Trump has issued a slew of executive orders. They
Speaker 2: are so so many, so fast, it's really crazy. But
Speaker 2: one he issued yesterday I think is going to have
Speaker 2: a huge impact and possibly save a lot of children
Speaker 2: from unnecessary medical procedures that they just don't need. It's
Speaker 2: called protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilation, and it
Speaker 2: bans chemical and surgical sex change procedures for minors, not adults.
Speaker 2: And I'm always really clear to delineate that line. When
Speaker 2: you turn eighteen, if you want to go down that path,
Speaker 2: feel free. I support you in that journey. Go knock
Speaker 2: yourself out. But for children, we don't let them sign
Speaker 2: contracts for a reason. We don't let them get face
Speaker 2: tattoos for a reason. We don't let them drive cars
Speaker 2: for a reason because they're simply not smart, mature, and
Speaker 2: nor do they have enough life experience to make decisions
Speaker 2: about their fertility before they're even old enough to understand
Speaker 2: what sex is. You know, I this is probably the
Speaker 2: best one out there in my mind. When we get back,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about reading scores. You guys, I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about that. I don't want talk about
Speaker 2: anything else negative. I'm sick of it. I'm absolutely sick
Speaker 2: of it. Gosh, what can we talk about that's not awful?
Speaker 2: You know what we're going to talk about when we
Speaker 2: get back, bark at the park. You know every professional
Speaker 2: team has them, Ay right? I found it even better
Speaker 2: video than the one you sent me because the one
Speaker 2: that the Tampa Bay Rays play a doorbell sound to
Speaker 2: get the dogs going. This new Jersey team, they played
Speaker 2: a doorbell and you can hear the dogs going crazy.
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna talk about next. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 2: do that next. A busy broadcast day and I cannot
Speaker 2: get to the stupid Wall Street Journal story that I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get to. Er it is paywall that I
Speaker 2: read it already, so I can just share it with you.
Speaker 2: And it has to do with the National Wait a minute,
Speaker 2: let me make sure I have the right the National
Speaker 2: Assessment of Educational Process. It's known as the NAPE tests,
Speaker 2: and the NAPE tests are the only consistent test that
Speaker 2: is given to students across the country. It's not given
Speaker 2: to all students, and they only given in fourth and
Speaker 2: eighth grade, so it's just they call it the snapshot,
Speaker 2: like this is just a gross macro look at education
Speaker 2: in the United States of America, and it shows some
Speaker 2: bad news. The sixty seven percent of eighth graders who
Speaker 2: scored at a basic or better reading level in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four was the lowest share since testing began in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two. Only sixty percent of fourth graders hit
Speaker 2: that benchmark, nearing record lows. The decline started before the pandemic,
Speaker 2: continued during it, and have persisted since. While the lowest
Speaker 2: achieving students fell further behind everyone else, The slides were
Speaker 2: brought affecting students across different states, school types, races, and
Speaker 2: economic backgrounds. I have a theory, and you know I'm
Speaker 2: gonna share it because I love to share them my theories.
Speaker 2: My theory is this that COVID did just incredible damage.
Speaker 2: And that's just not my theory. That is being born
Speaker 2: out over and over and over again. But it happened
Speaker 2: at a time when a couple things happened around reading.
Speaker 2: Ten to fifteen years ago. We started adopting these reading
Speaker 2: curriculums where kids were just supposed to guess what words meant,
Speaker 2: which works when words are three letters long. You know,
Speaker 2: you can look at a picture, you can infer a meaning.
Speaker 2: But for higher level comprehension, that's a disastrous way to
Speaker 2: go about it, and at that time we get hit
Speaker 2: with the pandemic. At that time, parents, I don't think
Speaker 2: parents are reading to their kids the same way parents
Speaker 2: read to me, because we are on our phones too much.
Speaker 2: I read to Qes starting when she was a tiny baby.
Speaker 2: I mean when obviously she had no idea what I
Speaker 2: was saying except I was there standing and I was
Speaker 2: reading her stories. I read stories to her every night
Speaker 2: before bed until she was too old, which honestly was
Speaker 2: like the first year of COVID.
Speaker 11: Was.
Speaker 2: After that she was like, no, I don't need a
Speaker 2: bed toime. And now I don't even know she goes
Speaker 2: to bed. She just like goes to bed and doesn't
Speaker 2: even say good night. That's where we are. But I
Speaker 2: think all of these things converged at the same time.
Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people, I know, the
Speaker 2: only reading they do is on their phones, and it
Speaker 2: could be a book on their phones. A lot of
Speaker 2: people have Kindle on their phones. I'm not knocking any way,
Speaker 2: you consume literature, always want to be clear about that.
Speaker 2: If you listen to audiobooks, I still think that counts.
Speaker 10: I do.
Speaker 2: As long as you're consuming literature, it's cool. But this
Speaker 2: is one of those things that also again should be
Speaker 2: a crisis, because well, if kids can't read, there's a
Speaker 2: lot they can do. Now, I promise this story, and
Speaker 2: I just want to play a little bit from the
Speaker 2: bark at the park night. This is somewhere in New Jersey.
Speaker 6: Yeah, as do his one and thirty one hits total.
Speaker 5: Only girth with one too Bashett once again late on
Speaker 5: the swing and he sends it foul to the right.
Speaker 5: Also ranks out there in the stolen based category, second
Speaker 5: most stolen bangs in the league with twenty nine. How
Speaker 5: the doorbell sound effect played over the sound. So I'm
Speaker 5: here at Armenhamer Park and of course here on bark
Speaker 5: in the park. That's uh, that's asking for some noise.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's essentially you.
Speaker 8: Know what that is.
Speaker 2: That's dun dunt dund dun dent dun dun dent for dogs.
Speaker 6: I love all of that.
Speaker 1: I do do.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's so awesome.
Speaker 2: I wish I wish Jinks was not so excitable around
Speaker 2: and not excited a little a bad way in an
Speaker 2: excited way. But when she's when you're one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty five pounds and you're an excitable dog around other dogs,
Speaker 2: it's not conducive to bark at the.
Speaker 6: Park with Poppy.
Speaker 5: The sounds definitely get are going, but it's hearing the
Speaker 5: rest of the neighborhood dogs going.
Speaker 6: And she goes, oh wait, what's going on?
Speaker 2: I gotta chige in too. Yeah, I gotta get into
Speaker 2: her chorus.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's it, that's what I want. Yeah, to be
Speaker 6: part of the store.
Speaker 7: Dog.
Speaker 6: When that one gets going in a I've been alerted,
Speaker 6: I gotta tell about humans.
Speaker 2: Jinx doesn't really bark with the other neighborhood dogs. She
Speaker 2: stands on our back deck and looks at them judgingly,
Speaker 2: unlike her owners.
Speaker 6: Poppy is not a trendsetter. Poppery Poppy is a followower.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, every you know what, Not everybody can be
Speaker 2: a trendsetter with all the followers. The trendsetters don't really
Speaker 2: send any trends. We're gonna take a quick time out
Speaker 2: when we get back. Heidigan All has a fantastic column
Speaker 2: in the Rocky Mountain Voice today about the things that
Speaker 2: make Colorado a sanctuary state. The governor keeps trying to
Speaker 2: say we're not, but in that famous line from Princess Bride,
Speaker 2: I do not think that word means what you think
Speaker 2: it means when it comes to sanctuary states. We'll do
Speaker 2: that right after this, as we invite our next guest,
Speaker 2: Heidi Ganal, to come on the show this morning in
Speaker 2: The Rocky Mountain Voice, where you can always find that
Speaker 2: at Rockymountain Voice dot com. She wrote a great column about, Yes, Governor,
Speaker 2: we are a sanctuary state.
Speaker 8: Hidi.
Speaker 2: First of all, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 8: Thanks Mandy. It's great to be here. Boy, what a's
Speaker 8: time to be a lot.
Speaker 2: I want to play this for you because I have
Speaker 2: to give Kyle Clark kudos for this exchange with the governor.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and give you my audio grant here we go.
Speaker 9: So misleading to say not in any way, shape or
Speaker 9: form is it's a sanctuary state.
Speaker 6: We cooperate fully with.
Speaker 10: Our federal partners in all criminal matters, and we're work
Speaker 10: closely with FBI, with DEA, with ICE, always have and
Speaker 10: we always plan to because it's part of what we
Speaker 10: need to do to make Colorado safer.
Speaker 6: That being said, we.
Speaker 10: Also have laws in place to make sure that the
Speaker 10: federal government doesn't get to co opt local law enforcement,
Speaker 10: taking them off the beat of keeping Colorado safe and
Speaker 10: preventing auto theft and drug dealing to instead force federal
Speaker 10: immigration statutes.
Speaker 6: If you're saying that we are.
Speaker 9: Absolutely not a sanctuary state in any way, shape or form,
Speaker 9: could you define what you would see a sanctuary jurisdiction as.
Speaker 10: Then well, Colorado fully cooperates with any valid federal warrant,
Speaker 10: federal order. We cooperate in any way we can to
Speaker 10: get criminals off the street. And so if there are
Speaker 10: states or jurisdictions that don't, you know, I personally think
Speaker 10: that's the wrong way to go.
Speaker 2: Now, Heidi, the governor seems to be using his own
Speaker 2: definition of sanctuary state. But my favorite part is when
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't know what a sanctuary state is, but.
Speaker 7: We're not that.
Speaker 2: In your column, you sort of said, here you go.
Speaker 2: You know, you've got to you've got to admit we
Speaker 2: certainly have some sanctuary state life policies. Tell me a
Speaker 2: little bit about what you've got in this column.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, Mandy, he is a gaslight governor. That's
Speaker 12: the best turnum I can come up with for him.
Speaker 12: Like he literally thinks we don't look around and see
Speaker 12: what's going on and understand that. He's like, he's both
Speaker 12: faced lying about this, and it was one of the
Speaker 12: key issues we debated about in the governor's race, and
Speaker 12: he didn't have any trouble admitting that we were sanctuary state.
Speaker 12: Back then, but the critical piece of legislation was back
Speaker 12: in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 8: It's HB nineteen eleven twenty four.
Speaker 12: It explicitly prohibits law enforcement from detaining individuals based solely
Speaker 12: on ice detainers that leads to releases without a transfer
Speaker 12: to federal custody.
Speaker 8: So they basically just evade the Feds and don't cooperate
Speaker 8: with them.
Speaker 12: That's one of many pieces of legislation that have led
Speaker 12: us to being a sanctuary state. And if you ask
Speaker 12: any law enforcement person in Colorado to listen to that clip,
Speaker 12: they would laugh.
Speaker 8: They would literally laugh at that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, some reporters have done just that. They've
Speaker 2: gone to Denver Sheriff's office and said what do you do?
Speaker 2: And they're like, we don't cooperate. I mean, I have to.
Speaker 2: Part of me, I'm not gonna lie, Heidi like part
Speaker 2: of me, admires him for adopting the George Costanza methodology
Speaker 2: of it's not a lie if you believe it. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because because I am often amazed
Speaker 2: at his consistency and telling people that we are not
Speaker 2: what we clearly are, and as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: in our news just a moment ago, we had a
Speaker 2: sound bite from one of the guys who's helping immigrants,
Speaker 2: you know, figure out what to do next, and he said, well,
Speaker 2: with our sanctuary laws. And I'm like, okay, So here's
Speaker 2: a guy who's on the same side as the governor ostensibly,
Speaker 2: and he's talking about sanctuary laws. It's almost absurd. But
Speaker 2: yet here we are having this conversation about what a
Speaker 2: sanctuary state is or what it's not. What did you
Speaker 2: find out specifically about that?
Speaker 12: Well, as an example, a Rapo and Adams County they
Speaker 12: do not track ice not vacations, and they don't honor
Speaker 12: detainers because of the state laws that don't recognize those practices.
Speaker 8: So a lot of this is just smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 12: It's like these laws exist, the governor doesn't want to
Speaker 12: really talk about them.
Speaker 8: But in reality the reality of what happens.
Speaker 12: Day to day is that there's there has not been
Speaker 12: any cooperation between local law enforcement or state law enforcement
Speaker 12: and the Federal Enforcement Arm. And the Federal Enforcement Arm
Speaker 12: was being told to stand down. Right now, they're active,
Speaker 12: they're engaged, they're doing things in Colorado, and so I
Speaker 12: think it's just kind of shock and awe right now.
Speaker 12: I don't think the Democrats or our leadership here, including
Speaker 12: Jared Pulas know quite how to navigate this yet. Now,
Speaker 12: Jared is a master manipulator, He's a great politician, so
Speaker 12: he's going to leverage this however you can, to make
Speaker 12: himself look good.
Speaker 8: But again, you can't lie to our seeing eyes.
Speaker 12: We all understand what's happening here, and this is not
Speaker 12: a figment of our imagination.
Speaker 8: It's real.
Speaker 12: It's affecting families, it's affecting our children. And what's going
Speaker 12: to have happened in the coming months, I think is
Speaker 12: going to be very telling for what happens in the
Speaker 12: twenty six mid terms and what happens to Jared Pulis's
Speaker 12: shot at being president someday.
Speaker 2: You know, I find it interesting to your point about
Speaker 2: his I believe he has presidential aspirations. Of course, we
Speaker 2: all know this. I think he's going to run in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, no doubt about it in my mind.
Speaker 8: And I have to look at this.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this like, what is he doing. How
Speaker 2: is he going to massage this for his presidential run?
Speaker 2: Because to your point, if it walks like a duck
Speaker 2: and talks like a duck. It's a sanctuary state, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no other way to look at the
Speaker 2: bills that we have passed and that he has signed
Speaker 2: and make any other assumption. And yet he's just going
Speaker 2: to keep saying it's not. And I bet you that
Speaker 2: he's going to convince at least some people that he's right.
Speaker 2: And I don't even know how to combat that. I
Speaker 2: really don't. I'm baffled. That's where my admiration for his
Speaker 2: political acumen comes from, because he's created man in his mythology.
Speaker 12: It ends up how it ends up happening is when
Speaker 12: the election comes around, people this is going to be
Speaker 12: in their memory.
Speaker 8: They're like long gone from their memory.
Speaker 12: They're going to spend tens of millions of dollars or
Speaker 12: he will on ads that are going to say something
Speaker 12: very different. A lot of people don't pay attention to
Speaker 12: the day to day of what's happening in politics, and
Speaker 12: he'll get away with it, just like he did in
Speaker 12: our governor's race, lying about certain things and the ads
Speaker 12: and on the TV and on the radio, and we
Speaker 12: don't have the resources to push back necessarily, or to
Speaker 12: do counter ads, or to really educate the voters on
Speaker 12: a day to day basis between elections so that they
Speaker 12: don't get caught off guard and believe believe the things
Speaker 12: they put up on air.
Speaker 2: Then well, I mean, did you have the same feeling
Speaker 2: that I had the other day when Mayor Mike Johnston
Speaker 2: was basically notified by Congress that they expect him to
Speaker 2: be in DC to talk about Denver sanctuary policies. And
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, look at this, and I said
Speaker 2: on Twitter, I was like, Oh, if it's the consequences
Speaker 2: of someone's actions, how do you think the mayor, Mayor
Speaker 2: Mike Johnston is going to do in that congressional testimony?
Speaker 12: Oh goodness, it's I mean, it depends on how it
Speaker 12: goes who's after him, but I believe they're going to
Speaker 12: try and hold him accountable and call him out for
Speaker 12: his terrible policies and what he's doing to a beautiful
Speaker 12: city of Denver. I mean, it's this isn't a horribly
Speaker 12: difficult problem to solve, And I know that sounds simplistic,
Speaker 12: but if you let law enforcement do their job, if
Speaker 12: you let ice do their job, if you hold people
Speaker 12: accountable and follow the laws that are on the books
Speaker 12: around enforcement of these laws, then this would get cleaned
Speaker 12: up pretty quickly, I believe, But they've got to be
Speaker 12: willing to do that, and that goes against a big
Speaker 12: part of their party, that the progressive side of the base.
Speaker 8: And the problem is police can't really upset them.
Speaker 12: Johnston specifically can't upset them, and I do believe they
Speaker 12: probably think the answers are somewhere in the middle, but
Speaker 12: they're they're dancing that crazy political dance to make sure
Speaker 12: that they can win the next selection.
Speaker 2: Jared Polis is dancing at harder because he knows that
Speaker 2: he's going to have to have some bipartisan support when
Speaker 2: he runs for president. May Ormike Johnstone, to me, seems
Speaker 2: to be very comfortable running Denver as a progressive, openly
Speaker 2: being a progressive. I don't think he feels any compulsion
Speaker 2: to try to moderate on anything, and to me, that
Speaker 2: says he doesn't have aspirations beyond maybe, you know, taking
Speaker 2: over Diana to get seat when she decides to retire,
Speaker 2: because he would never have to work with the other
Speaker 2: side then. But I actually think he's in over his
Speaker 2: head here, Heidi. I really think that he is going
Speaker 2: to have to go and try and explain what's going
Speaker 2: on in Denver when in my experience, when you ask
Speaker 2: the mayor a question, he uses a lot of words,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't say a lot. So I'm wondering how
Speaker 2: that's going to come across in Congress where they're on
Speaker 2: time limits and these members of Congress have a point
Speaker 2: to make. I think it could be a disaster for
Speaker 2: the mayor, to be perfectly honest, I do too.
Speaker 12: And Mandy, I've heard different things I've heard he did.
Speaker 12: I don't know if he still wants to run for governor,
Speaker 12: perhaps US Senate when hicks seat is up, or Bennett's
Speaker 12: seat if Bennett drop like decides not to run again.
Speaker 12: I do think he has higher aspirations. I think that's
Speaker 12: why Reid Huffman and Mike Bloomberg have helped him. But
Speaker 12: to your point, I think he's done a lot of
Speaker 12: destructive things for that path. I don't think he's going
Speaker 12: to appeal to the middle of the road, but he
Speaker 12: certainly could win over the Denver voters to get to
Speaker 12: get seat when she retires, which maybe sooner than later.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're looking for more columns, Heidie's column really
Speaker 2: great coverage. Rocky Mountain Voice is doing it every day online.
Speaker 2: They've got really good people writing for them. What was
Speaker 2: the other story I wanted to ask you? You didn't
Speaker 2: write it or one of your It's on Rocky Mountain
Speaker 2: Voice to hang on, just give me a second, Give
Speaker 2: me a second, and I'll find it very very quickly.
Speaker 8: I think his elevator music. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, vamp for me, Vamp for me. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was, but I will find it.
Speaker 8: Is going on with the wolves right now?
Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you somebody just sent me
Speaker 2: a story that said, Hey, somebody gets killed in one
Speaker 2: of the counties that the wolves were released in and
Speaker 2: they say it was an animal attack, but they can't
Speaker 2: identify what kind of animal it was. And I was like,
Speaker 2: could this be a wolf?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Wolves don't generally attack people though, but I think that's
Speaker 2: a very interesting problem to have, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Now we got to figure out what's killing someone and
Speaker 2: hope it isn't the wolves.
Speaker 12: Well, and Mandy, a really important thing that I can
Speaker 12: come back on and talk to you more in depth,
Speaker 12: or we could have Lindy Brown or our editor talk
Speaker 12: to you, a writer talk to you about is now
Speaker 12: that the Trump administration is in play and has a
Speaker 12: little bit more say over what happens with NEPA and
Speaker 12: some of these environmental studies and laws. They need to
Speaker 12: come in and delete or stop any agreements that they
Speaker 12: have with the State of Colorado that is allowing the
Speaker 12: state to kind of.
Speaker 8: Override what they do.
Speaker 12: That's really really important and going to be significant in
Speaker 12: our wolf policy going forward and in our ag policy, etc.
Speaker 12: So if anyone from the Trump administration is listening, you
Speaker 12: got to get on this. You've got to delete any
Speaker 12: agreements that you have that allow the state to run
Speaker 12: things where you have the authority to run it, because
Speaker 12: that's what the Biden administration did. They defer to pol
Speaker 12: Us to let him and his bureaucracies run things here,
Speaker 12: and they have a lot of power that they can
Speaker 12: delete with a pen, I believe by doing away with
Speaker 12: some of the agreements.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just found the other thing that I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about. The Rocky Mountain Voice has a full
Speaker 2: list of President Trump's executive orders so far. Is that
Speaker 2: going to be updated so I can go back and
Speaker 2: look at it when I need to.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, we will do it. Just for you, Mandy, Thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the hard part of my job
Speaker 2: and making it easier. Hidiganball. She is part of the
Speaker 2: team behind Rocky Mountain Voice dot com and you can
Speaker 2: read the column that she wrote that lists out the
Speaker 2: bills that make us the sanctuary state no matter what
Speaker 2: the governor tries to tell us. Heidi, good to see
Speaker 2: you again.
Speaker 8: We'll see you soon, you too, Thanks, Mandy.
Speaker 2: All right, that is heidiganal and joining me in the studio.
Speaker 2: Now Rob Dus and everybody. Hey, I heard you just
Speaker 2: now on the phone, and this is all I hear
Speaker 2: Rob say. I'm just super awkward on social media and
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what I'm doing. I was like,
Speaker 2: true words have never been spoken about Rob Us right there,
Speaker 2: I'm that awkward.
Speaker 14: What I meant by awkward was we're talking about doing
Speaker 14: video and audio at the same time. On the Super
Speaker 14: Bowl piece, I've normally talked to the to the teams
Speaker 14: bars remember each team as a watch party in this
Speaker 14: in the city, because we're all trands correct correct transplants.
Speaker 14: So I'm trying to hold you know, I don't have
Speaker 14: good success of holding the phone and talking in my
Speaker 14: sick mic and doing the interview things right right, So.
Speaker 2: You're you're struggling with that. Yeah, yeah, you know, Arod
Speaker 2: can help you with that. I know I was going
Speaker 2: to be in New Orleans. Sorry, yeah, well no, he's
Speaker 2: here this, he's here for He's here until Sunday. Maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I think he's going to
Speaker 2: be out. Yeah, okay, well there you go. So in
Speaker 2: any case, I will give robit tutorial on that, because
Speaker 2: that is going to be a big thing. You guys
Speaker 2: have a couple of videos on the blog if you
Speaker 2: didn't hear the beginning of the show. First of all,
Speaker 2: the blog is really good today if I do say
Speaker 2: so myself. But I have a couple of things on
Speaker 2: the blog. One is a dog wearing a ski mask
Speaker 2: holding one of those cameras that videotapes them as he
Speaker 2: goes through a house. And that, my friends, is why
Speaker 2: I have the internet. That video right there, And happy
Speaker 2: tenth anniversary to the legendary Marshawn Lynch interview where he
Speaker 2: had to sit down for media day with the press
Speaker 2: and the only thing he would say is I'm just
Speaker 2: here so I won't get fined for the entire time
Speaker 2: that he sat with the media. I have that little
Speaker 2: video on the blog and you know what, as a
Speaker 2: member of the media, I find that frustrating, But as
Speaker 2: a human being, I thought it was hilarious. I think
Speaker 2: you're just playing for the Seahawks. Yeah, yeah, so I
Speaker 2: love that. Like I said, as a member of the media,
Speaker 2: I'm super frustrated, but honestly, it was hilarious, completely hilarious.
Speaker 2: Another thing happened at yesterday's press conference that I find
Speaker 2: very interesting. The White House is inviting new media content
Speaker 2: creators who specialize in news, that are creating content for
Speaker 2: news to apply for White House press credentials.
Speaker 14: Well, I mean, this is where it's going right well,
Speaker 14: and because apparently because of.
Speaker 2: Baron Trump, I mean whatever, his show, Theovon Show he
Speaker 2: did Joe Rogan, and I really believe that that helped
Speaker 2: him so much with the demographics that listened to those shows.
Speaker 14: Absolutely so he was able to shave just just enough
Speaker 14: to bump up, yep, the other demographics exactly.
Speaker 2: So I think that's very interesting. I can only imagine
Speaker 2: some of the applications are going to get from some
Speaker 2: of these new media content creators with like follower I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm sure they're asking social media followers and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. People don't realize now. When I reached out
Speaker 2: to certain people for an interview, they send you a
Speaker 2: questionnaire that says, how many social media followers do you
Speaker 2: have on each platform? How many downloads does your podcast have?
Speaker 2: They want to know all that stuff before they'll greed
Speaker 2: to come on the show. Normally, those are the very,
Speaker 2: very digitally savvy guests that I want to have on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 15: Those are the guests we don't get on the taking
Speaker 15: it for great yea, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Well, if it's any consolation, I don't get the ves. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'd love to love to talk about myself is big time.
Speaker 11: You know what?
Speaker 2: I just heard Joe Rogan's podcast and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Guess how many downloads? How many streams total?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 2: For the whole year? Who year, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 15: So he probably has a couple episodes every week. I'm
Speaker 15: gonna go with two hundred.
Speaker 2: Million, five hundred million, guys. I don't think there is
Speaker 2: a an entertainment network that reaches that many people on
Speaker 2: a consistent basis, No that exists.
Speaker 14: Right now, or just repeat listeners, because five hundred million
Speaker 14: people is more than the United States, So that was
Speaker 14: over the whole year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's going to be listeners. But still, even if
Speaker 2: you only have what thirty million people listening to you
Speaker 2: on a regular basis.
Speaker 14: Thirty million is like an NFC championship game.
Speaker 2: You're reaching more people than any news media outlet. Like
Speaker 2: right now, you're beating everybody on Fox News. You're beating everybody.
Speaker 15: Hey, if you want to catch up on Joe Rogan's
Speaker 15: download numbers, for taking it for granted, new episode dropped
Speaker 15: to death, subscribe please there you go, Well done, Well.
Speaker 2: Done, And now it's time for the most exciting segment.
Speaker 2: By the way, just as a point of reference, in
Speaker 2: all of my show podcasts since we started podcasting, like
Speaker 2: seven eight years ago, I have had five million downloads
Speaker 2: just as a point, I'm only ninety five million per
Speaker 2: year short. And now it's time for the most exciting
Speaker 2: segment on the radio of its kind in the world.
Speaker 7: Of the day.
Speaker 2: All right, what is our dad joke of the day?
Speaker 8: Please?
Speaker 15: Rob us in the world just gets me laugh at
Speaker 15: every town beat.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it's a little like he's
Speaker 2: a little e or but it's okay, it's change your
Speaker 2: pace yeah. Yeah, it's a nice nix it up joke
Speaker 2: of the day.
Speaker 15: A shout out to the guy who played the triangle
Speaker 15: with our band for the last few years.
Speaker 6: Thanks for everything. Wow, I love that joke.
Speaker 2: Anyway, what is our word of the day.
Speaker 6: Word of the day is diverse E I V E
Speaker 6: R S. It's an ad wait a bit.
Speaker 2: We just had this, grab another one. Diverse is. It's
Speaker 2: not diverse, it's I can't remember what it means, but
Speaker 2: we just had this one.
Speaker 6: All right, let's go to see what the word of
Speaker 6: the day today is holding her I know.
Speaker 15: Umm, facetious, facetious adjectivity.
Speaker 2: Serious, Yeah, it's not serious.
Speaker 6: Tongue in cheek, yes, humorous are funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. What is the largest native waterfowl
Speaker 2: in North America?
Speaker 6: The loon, the lune.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go sand.
Speaker 6: Hill Crane's way better.
Speaker 2: We're wrong, you are correct. What the trumpeter swand they're
Speaker 2: one of North America's heaviest flying birds. When we were
Speaker 2: in Europe, I was sitting on the outside on the
Speaker 2: deck watching the world go by, and two swans come
Speaker 2: flying up. It was a female and a male, right,
Speaker 2: so honestly, honest to God, it looked like the female
Speaker 2: was just pissed off at the male. She was flying
Speaker 2: and she would land and he would kind of land
Speaker 2: and she would fly away and he would It was
Speaker 2: it was just like Get Lover's Coral in the Swan
Speaker 2: world anyway, Rob DAWs and Mandy Cottle, what's our category?
Speaker 15: Category for today? Four letter friends? Okay, we're letter friends?
Speaker 6: Musically cool? Had one?
Speaker 2: Manny? What's a gang?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 6: You love your best?
Speaker 15: These also where flowers spring from.
Speaker 2: Flowers?
Speaker 11: What is it?
Speaker 6: You love your best?
Speaker 15: These also where flowers spring from I don't know, I
Speaker 15: have no idea, Rob, what is birds?
Speaker 6: Both four letters? Both wrong? Buds?
Speaker 2: Oh bud, It's okay, there you go.
Speaker 15: Milwaukee's MLB team is sometimes referred.
Speaker 2: To the Rob.
Speaker 6: What is correct? I'll give it to you.
Speaker 14: Well, yeah, because there were two words, but there were
Speaker 14: both four letters.
Speaker 15: Yeah, okay, rest easy, Tunisia's on our side. In twenty fifteen,
Speaker 15: it was even designated a major non NATO this.
Speaker 2: What's ally correct? Score two to zero to zero?
Speaker 15: All right? This word for a friend can also mean
Speaker 15: bait to attract sharks.
Speaker 2: Mandy's chum correct jump jump jum jum jump jump jump jumping.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow, and
Speaker 2: tomorrow's gonna snow, so it's gonna be snow apocalypse, just
Speaker 2: like whatever it may or may not snow. Dave Fraser
Speaker 2: was very clear about that he had no idea. He
Speaker 2: has no idea.
Speaker 6: Does that mean you'll be working from home?
Speaker 2: Because I am going on a tour of Children's Hospital
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, which I'm very much looking forward to because
Speaker 2: we're working again with them, with the Mighty Millions raffle
Speaker 2: where they actually always give away the home that's the best. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go do a tour in the morning,
Speaker 2: so I will be here for the show. Uh, not
Speaker 2: that that matters to the audience, because y'all can't tell
Speaker 2: where I am half the time.
Speaker 15: Anyway, Yeah, that basement setup I am really jealous of.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're gonna make room. Ka Wa Sports coming up next,
Speaker 2: Keep it on, Kowa