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<v Speaker 2>Today on the blog Last chance to join us on

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<v Speaker 2>the Mandy Cootnall Adventure to Japan. Dave Frasier joins for

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<v Speaker 2>On this on the blog, I often share videos from

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<v Speaker 2>this kid in Canada where he just stops people on

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<v Speaker 2>So I love those videos, and I hope you like

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<v Speaker 2>when we plan these trips, there are dates that you

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<v Speaker 2>You really want to go check it out. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>with us, but it's got to be like in the

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<v Speaker 2>of all the deal with the airfare and everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>check that out that is on the blog, or just

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<v Speaker 2>go to Mandy Connell trip dot com. Dave Fraser joins

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<v Speaker 2>us for Weather Wednesday, looking forward to that. Jamie Segenberger

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<v Speaker 2>Lotus School for Excellence. Oh shoot, I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened was a coach of a basketball team

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<v Speaker 2>video replay that the coach was the one at fault

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<v Speaker 2>here he has been suspended, but the Lotus School just

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<v Speaker 2>jumped on it. They were very transparent. They immediately put

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<v Speaker 2>met with them. I mean, they just they did everything

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<v Speaker 2>so child pornography. He has since died in appearance suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jeff Co's schools did everything the exact wrong way,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's so frustrating to me because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to have faith in my governmental institutions. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do not blind faith. I'm not stupid, but

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<v Speaker 2>that these institutions were working on my behalf and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily feel that. With many different institutions and the

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<v Speaker 2>school districts in this state, some of them are focused

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<v Speaker 2>suspect everything they do. The only way to have people

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<v Speaker 2>be able to trust you is to be completely transparent,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're a public institution. Anytime it looks for

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<v Speaker 2>a second like you're trying to hide something or obfusekate

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<v Speaker 2>immediately look shady. And you know what, I realize that

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<v Speaker 2>in some cases, especially with a school district, there are

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<v Speaker 2>student privacy issues that have to be handled, but the

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<v Speaker 2>district hides behind those excuses when they're asked about things

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to talk about. When people have asked

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<v Speaker 2>for very simple data, Okay, we want a breakdown of

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<v Speaker 2>this way. We don't need any names or identifying information.

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<v Speaker 2>that's a student privacy issue.

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<v Speaker 8>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever I see this kind of stuff where Jeffco

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<v Speaker 2>schools is essentially saying, now, think about what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Their third in command was being investigated for child pornography

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<v Speaker 2>and then he killed himself when he went to visit family,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet the district was kind of mute, just moot

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<v Speaker 2>on the whole thing. Nope, nope, we're not We're just not.

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<v Speaker 2>And now they say, what was the holidays? Oh it

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<v Speaker 2>was the holidays. Oh well, gosh, there was probably no

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<v Speaker 2>parents worried about that during the holidays. It's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to get in front of it. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to be Lotus, a Caate Me and Denver Academy of

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<v Speaker 2>the Torah. You have to get in front of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they did. Transparency is the key, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just fight it. They fight it. It makes me nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is in the column and we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>with Jimmy about that in just a few minutes. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to give a little credit to Kyle Clark on something,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I love to beat up Kyle Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun. I mean, it's like a fun sport. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean literally, although I do think I could

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<v Speaker 2>take him. And that's no slight on Kyle, but he

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<v Speaker 2>is he's a slight fellow, you know, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>do have to give Kyle credit because Kyle was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pin down Governor Jared Polis on whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado is a sanctuary state. A Rod may have my audio.

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<v Speaker 2>Please listen to this exchange. You're gonna hear Kyle, then

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna hear the governor. Then you're gonna hear Kyle,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're going to hear the governor. And Kyle is

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<v Speaker 2>working overtime here to try and get the governor to

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<v Speaker 2>admit what we all know. Colorado is clearly a sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 9>So misleading to say not in any way, shape or

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<v Speaker 9>form is as a sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 10>We cooperate fully with our federal partners in all criminal matters,

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<v Speaker 10>and we're work closely with FBI, with DEA, with ICE,

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<v Speaker 10>always have and we always plan to because it's part

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<v Speaker 10>of what we need to do to make Colorado safer.

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<v Speaker 10>That being said, we also have laws in place to

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<v Speaker 10>make sure that the federal government doesn't get to co

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<v Speaker 10>op local law enforcement, taking them off the beat of

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<v Speaker 10>to instead force federal immigration statutes.

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<v Speaker 9>If you're saying that we are absolutely not a sanctuary

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<v Speaker 9>state in any way, shape or form, could you define

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<v Speaker 9>what you would see a sanctuary jurisdiction as.

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<v Speaker 10>Then, well, Colorado fully cooperates with any valid federal warrant,

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<v Speaker 10>federal order. We cooperate in any way we can to

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<v Speaker 10>get criminals off the street. And so if there are

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<v Speaker 10>states or jurisdictions that don't, you know, I personally think

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<v Speaker 10>that's the wrong way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Except we won't honor an ice detainer, so we're not

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<v Speaker 2>following all federal orders. We're not doing that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>got a handed to Kyle Clarke. He came right back

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<v Speaker 2>and just basically said, okay, look if we're and what

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<v Speaker 2>the governor said a response right there was, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>define what a sanctuary state is, but we're not that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's am I wrong? You can text me

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<v Speaker 2>five six six nine OERO on the Common Spirit Health

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<v Speaker 2>text line if you'd like to disagree. But the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I brought all that up and played that for you

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<v Speaker 2>is hiding. Ganal is not buying what the governor is selling.

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<v Speaker 2>And she has a great column in the Rocky Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>Voice today she's coming in to talk about that and

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<v Speaker 2>seless all of the ways that Colorado is indeed a

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<v Speaker 2>sanctuary state. Now, I want to read something I found.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the wayback machine on the Internet today

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to go back to twenty nineteen when

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<v Speaker 2>the sanctuary state laws were being passed here in Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>by Democrats. There was bipartisan opposition to these bills, so

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<v Speaker 2>they were passed by Democrats, opposed by Democrats and Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>but not enough. This is from the Denver Post in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen. While there's not a singular definition for a

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<v Speaker 2>sanctuary city, anti sanctuary legislation in Congress usually defines it

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<v Speaker 2>as a city that prohibits police from complying with ice detainers.

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<v Speaker 2>By that definition, the state is made virtually every city

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado a sanctuary city, vulnerable to losing billions in

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<v Speaker 2>federal grants if presidential action or legislation were to crack

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<v Speaker 2>down on sanctuaries. So the governor is actually employing the

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<v Speaker 2>George Costanza strategy, which is it's not a lie if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe it. So he keeps saying over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again, we're not a sanctuary state. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>a sanctuary state, but we're clearly a sanctuary state. So

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<v Speaker 2>we can say it as many times as he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is this, that's like me saying a

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<v Speaker 2>rod your hair is green, Oh good, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not supposed to go along with that. You're missing

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<v Speaker 2>the point. My whole skit it is it's green, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>what it's obviously green. So we're just gonna end this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I really think he believes we're not a sanctuary state,

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<v Speaker 2>even though everything in reality shows. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>that as they say in the South, that dog won't

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<v Speaker 2>hunt now, especially okay, that dog won't hunt because now

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<v Speaker 2>Denver is being called to the carpet in Congress because

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<v Speaker 2>they're a sanctuary city. So Jared Poles can say only once,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not a sanctuary state. He's just making up his

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<v Speaker 2>own definition, and you don't get to do that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm guessing that since Denver has been called to

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<v Speaker 2>the carpet in Congress, the federal government doesn't view his

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<v Speaker 2>denials with much credibility. So it's just really, really fascinating. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to give Jared Police credit for one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been consistent. He keeps saying he doesn't want a

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<v Speaker 2>sanctuary state, even as he signed the bills that made

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<v Speaker 2>us one. So the governor this, according to his spokesperson

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, said, has been engaging the sponsors and

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<v Speaker 2>has articulated concerns on the draft. He will continue to

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<v Speaker 2>review the language as the bill changes. He never clarified

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<v Speaker 2>what he was confused about, so, I mean, the document

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<v Speaker 2>says Police would not support prohibitions on using public money

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<v Speaker 2>to assist in enforcing federal immigration law, nor anything that

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<v Speaker 2>would prevent federal agents from accessing secure areas of a jail.

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<v Speaker 2>The memo further outlines his apprehension about provisions that would

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<v Speaker 2>prevent local governments from entering into contracts that require its

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<v Speaker 2>employees to aid in the enforcement of federal immigration law,

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<v Speaker 2>and elements that would prevent an officer from arresting or

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<v Speaker 2>holding a person based on an immigration detainer. So we

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<v Speaker 2>had concerns about it, but he still signed the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it didn't go into law without his signature

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<v Speaker 2>on it. So he says one thing, but when he

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<v Speaker 2>has a chance to actually take action to stop it,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't. And I don't get that. I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>get that. So I just we shall see what happens here.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's been a very interesting thing to watch things

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<v Speaker 2>that have gone on. Now. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this executive order, a memorandum that shut off funding to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of programs and created a huge kerfuffle yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I just heard rosstalk and about it when I was

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<v Speaker 2>driving in And I want to say this because I

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<v Speaker 2>only have a few minutes and then we've got weather Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll probably come back to this later in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>They have now rescinded yesterday's memo, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are viewing this as a massive misstep. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible mistake in whatever. Here's how I view this.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has been throwing everything against the wall everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is an example of something that the Democrats have

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<v Speaker 2>done very very well for a really long time. I

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<v Speaker 2>call it thrust and retreat. It's throws something so onerous

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<v Speaker 2>out there. You keep pushing the limits, pushing the limits,

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<v Speaker 2>pushing the limits, and then you finally hit the limit.

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<v Speaker 2>You hit something so onerous that it creates a huge kerfuffle,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead of fighting for it, arguing for it in court,

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump White House said, Okay, we hit the limit,

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<v Speaker 2>back it up, we send it, and we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 2>But now they know then, now they know where that

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<v Speaker 2>pushback starts. I got to tell you, I think Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has been plotting the first hundred days of his

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<v Speaker 2>return since he did not win in twenty twenty. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing it. And I think they have a long

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<v Speaker 2>term strategy that we are not privy to yet. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it as a massive defeat. I see

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<v Speaker 2>it as a as a test. Let's see what happens

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<v Speaker 2>if we do this. Now, you guys, you see what

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<v Speaker 2>else is happening. Though there was this huge kerfuffle about

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<v Speaker 2>cutting off funding all these programs, you know what else happened.

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<v Speaker 2>He's basically offering federal employees the opportunity to get paid

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<v Speaker 2>till September if they quit by February fifth. He is

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<v Speaker 2>about to slash the size of the federal government. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're over here talking about a memo that's already been rescinded.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're watching a level of strategic thinking here

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<v Speaker 2>that we have not seen in a white house in

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<v Speaker 2>a very long time. And you know a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said this yesterday. Not everything he's doing will be

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<v Speaker 2>found to be legal. Some of it will be rescinded,

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<v Speaker 2>some of it will be struck down, but not all

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<v Speaker 2>of it will. And a lot of the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now are things that people like me have

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<v Speaker 2>been begging for for so long, and they're finally happening,

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<v Speaker 2>at least temporarily. Anyway, all right, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>time out. We got Dave Fraser coming up from Fox

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one because we've got weather Wednesday. If you love

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<v Speaker 2>snow as much as I love snow, tomorrow is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a great day. All right. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Chief Meteorologist Dave Fraser. Dave, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the weather in just a second. But I know you

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<v Speaker 2>worked in Cincinnati, so I have got to share this

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<v Speaker 2>horrifying story with you before we go any further. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you ready?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Good Being Cincinnati where you live there, you know

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<v Speaker 2>about Greater's ice Cream, of course, because they're everywhere through Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>and you of course know about Skyline Chile, did you know?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Me neither.

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<v Speaker 2>But now there is a limited addition, Greater's Skyline Spice

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll pass to pass on. That's I will pass.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've heard you over the years challenge a rod

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<v Speaker 3>to try things. I'll let a rod try that majority things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they do say the ice cream really just tastes

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<v Speaker 2>but an ice cream maybe, I don't know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a listener said that to me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, who anyway, So let's talk about this storm tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we looking at? What kind of storm is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's it coming from?

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<v Speaker 11>This is you know, every winter season there are at

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<v Speaker 11>least a minimum of two, maybe three storms that become

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<v Speaker 11>very very challenging from a standard from forecasting, and this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is one of them. And the reason for that is

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<v Speaker 3>because of the placement of the storm in southern Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>Denver is just on the northern fringe, and so any

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<v Speaker 3>wobble in that northern line of snow makes a difference

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<v Speaker 3>between who gets it and who doesn't. And there will

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<v Speaker 3>be at cut up. I was just telling a rod.

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<v Speaker 3>This is literally on the south and east sides of

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<v Speaker 3>the Metro. You can be driving and then all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, run into a couple inches of snow. You'll

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<v Speaker 3>go from nothing to a couple inches. So that wabble

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<v Speaker 3>factor is the biggest challenge we're dealing with right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting here scratching my head looking at it. I

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<v Speaker 3>some snowshowers, to the city of Denver gets nothing. I

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<v Speaker 3>can see Castle Rock maybe getting up to an inch,

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<v Speaker 3>but I also have computer models to give Castle Rock nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you drive east of Castle Rock towards Kyowa

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<v Speaker 3>and there's four inches of snow. So I would just

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<v Speaker 3>tell any of your listeners you know, if you live

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<v Speaker 3>from Denver to say Aurora, you're probably going to see

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<v Speaker 3>some snow. I don't know that your morning commuter is

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<v Speaker 3>the extreme northern fringe of seeing some light snow showers

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<v Speaker 3>with minimal to no accumulation, but as you go south

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<v Speaker 3>and east of there, So I would tell you if

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<v Speaker 3>going east to Parker RidgeGate Road, Hess Road. They could

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<v Speaker 3>that snow line moves just east of there and you

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<v Speaker 3>may have to go all the way out to Lineman

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<v Speaker 3>to find snow. So I would just say to people,

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<v Speaker 3>be prepared on the southeast side and watch the forecast.

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<v Speaker 3>It is going to change because of that wabble factor.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're telling me is we got a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>What's interesting is the chances go like we've got a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty to thirty percent chance, a low chance that Denver

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<v Speaker 3>the city see snow, but that chance ramps up to

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<v Speaker 3>eighty to one hundred percent as you go farther south

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<v Speaker 3>and east. So it really is going to be about placement,

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<v Speaker 3>and the center of this storm needs to be watched.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple other things about it quickly. It's a southern storm,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a Pacific storm, which means it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of cold air, so some of you may

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<v Speaker 3>see a little bit of brain, and the overall impact

436
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<v Speaker 3>of the roads is only going to be for several

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<v Speaker 3>hours through the morning Commoe. After that, the sun's going

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<v Speaker 3>to come out. We're going to be forty five degrees

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<v Speaker 3>and anything that Paul's is going to melt.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, perfect, that's what I want to hear. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>back to like the sixties next week, aren't we.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I've got as soon as this storm moves out tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm going.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty seven on Friday, fifty nine Saturday, sixty, sixty two

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday, and still near sixty on Monday, and then

446
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<v Speaker 3>night Tuesday Wednesday, we'll get a little weak cold front

447
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<v Speaker 3>that kind of backs in and we'll trim the temperatures

448
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<v Speaker 3>back into the forties, which is seasonal. And listen, we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing great. I don't know if I caught up with

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<v Speaker 3>you last time, because we had the snow over this

451
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<v Speaker 3>past weekend. We've got thirteen point three inches of snow.

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<v Speaker 3>We are the fourteenth snowiest January on record and also

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<v Speaker 3>coming in as the fifteenth coldest. And if you remember,

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<v Speaker 3>back in December we talked about the long range.

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<v Speaker 2>Outlook, what was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Dry and winter?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Why I did not have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Dave, I know people like to make fun

460
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<v Speaker 2>of meteorologists like you're wrong half the time or whatever,

461
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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, do you ever just like kind of

462
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<v Speaker 2>want to just slap your forehead and go, okay, you know, okay, God,

463
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<v Speaker 2>I'm humbled. You know, I get it. We're just guessing

464
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<v Speaker 2>here because it's got to be super frustrating doing what

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<v Speaker 2>you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but it comes with the territory. So

467
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've got to have a thick skin, and

468
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<v Speaker 3>you have to if you're going to be a meteorologics,

469
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<v Speaker 3>you have to accept the fact that you will be

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<v Speaker 3>wrong right just the way things are. And we use

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<v Speaker 3>computers as guidance. We don't hang our hat on one

472
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<v Speaker 3>computer model. We analyze all of them and try and

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<v Speaker 3>find a sweet spot, which is what I'm doing today,

474
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<v Speaker 3>and it can be frustrating. Some are easy, some are

475
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<v Speaker 3>a little more challenging, and some are downright tough. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sometimes you hit the putt and it comes

477
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<v Speaker 3>up and look short. But you know what, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>as long as we message, just as I did the

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<v Speaker 3>cautionary tale of Hey, if you live south and east

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<v Speaker 3>of Denver, be for hair for some slick roads in

481
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<v Speaker 3>the morning. If you wake up in the roads on flick,

482
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<v Speaker 3>good for you, head off to work and you've got

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<v Speaker 3>no problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a weather It's not a weather question, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a TV weather question, Dave. What are the black

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<v Speaker 2>controllers the news anchors have in their hands?

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<v Speaker 3>So we recently, at the start of the new year,

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<v Speaker 3>we used to have a teleprompter operators, somebody that would

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<v Speaker 3>sit and control the rolling scripts, the stories that the

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<v Speaker 3>anchors read, and the teleprompter. We have moved away from

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<v Speaker 3>that to the anchors and the reporters who are in

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<v Speaker 3>studio controlling it themselves. So the black controller you're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>is then controlling it eventually what's going to happen? And

494
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<v Speaker 3>this is kind of cool. The system is training itself

495
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<v Speaker 3>so that AI can actually operate it based on the

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<v Speaker 3>cadence of the person reading. Wow, those black boxes will

497
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<v Speaker 3>go away and the anchor will just sit and read

498
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<v Speaker 3>and an AI component will run the teleprompter for them

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<v Speaker 3>based on their voice and their cadence and reading. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty cool. AI is I heard you talking about

501
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<v Speaker 3>it the other day, trying to get into it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've kind of peeked out of a little bit. I'm amazed,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little intimidated. I don't know what it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but some example, I have friends that have already

505
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<v Speaker 2>adopted like ten or twelve different AI platforms, and they're

506
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<v Speaker 2>doing these incredible things, and I feel like a luddite

507
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<v Speaker 2>over here with AI. I'm like, what am I doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think I can make a tony picture.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like it's I feel so left behind

510
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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because I asked Jeremy Hubbard. I said, hey, Jeremy,

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<v Speaker 3>show me how this works. I don't know what it

513
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<v Speaker 3>is and everything. So he went in and funny, he

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<v Speaker 3>put my name in and he said he asked chat

515
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<v Speaker 3>GPT I think it was, and he said write a

516
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<v Speaker 3>resignation letter, which I thought was funny. He says, write

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<v Speaker 3>a resignation letter for day Fraser.

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<v Speaker 11>And within like eight seconds, it wrote this letter.

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<v Speaker 3>And it went obviously stand in the internet, and it

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<v Speaker 3>found out where I worked and mentioned Fox thirty one.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about my years in town. I was blown away.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Jeremy he says, watch this. He asked it

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<v Speaker 3>to make a picture of a fifteen year old weather

524
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<v Speaker 3>man and it came back with this picture.

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<v Speaker 7>There was like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Whirling tornado and this guy's in this tight blue suit.

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<v Speaker 3>His hair's all fried out, like you look like you

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<v Speaker 3>got hit by electricity. And then Jeremy took a picture

529
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<v Speaker 3>and said add Dave Stace in to it, and the

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<v Speaker 3>picture printed out seconds is amazing. I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I sat there with my jaw down, going wow. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy because it looks just like me, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a little yeah, the picture. You know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll text it to a rod please do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put it on the blog. I'll put it on

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<v Speaker 2>the blog with your permission so people can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Dave Frasier, I've got one more quick question

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<v Speaker 2>for you, and it might not be quick, but where

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<v Speaker 2>it has to because we're amos out of time. Ask

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<v Speaker 2>if their entire crew gets together and decides on what

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<v Speaker 2>the forecast will be, or if they each do their

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<v Speaker 2>own individual forecast.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it has always been my Everybody who has interviewed

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<v Speaker 3>with me, who becomes a part of our team knows

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<v Speaker 3>I am one hundred percent team. There's no reason to

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<v Speaker 3>be using one brain when we have six brains. Everybody

547
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<v Speaker 3>can analyze. Some people might pick up on different things.

548
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<v Speaker 3>Everybody has a different asset that they bring to the table,

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<v Speaker 3>and we communicate. So this afternoon, when I go to work,

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<v Speaker 3>Liz and Alden and I will scrutinize the podcast and

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<v Speaker 3>we will talk about it and come to a opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>and that if we have to, we will communicate on

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<v Speaker 3>a tech spread that the entire team shares to let

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<v Speaker 3>the morning crew know what we decided about snowfall totals,

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<v Speaker 3>so that we can maintain a single message from the

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<v Speaker 3>entire Pinpoint Weather team to anybody watching us on either

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<v Speaker 3>of our stations or any platform we ship.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Dave Fraser, a pleasure as always. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you next week after our little It'll be delightful

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<v Speaker 2>next week and I'll be like, Dave, thanks for bringing

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<v Speaker 2>in the nice weather and you can totally take credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, a little preview of spring.

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<v Speaker 11>Get ready for it?

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, all right, that's save Fraser from box

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one. We shall return. It's worth a trip to

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<v Speaker 2>mandy'sblog dot com. No impostory, of course. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys saw any of the press conference yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>If I knew Secretary Caroline Levitt. But I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she's twenty seven years old, a rod twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 7>She is.

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<v Speaker 2>Very certain of herself. And I don't mean that in

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<v Speaker 2>a bad way at all. I mean she is very

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<v Speaker 2>She used confidence yesterday, and to be that young and

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<v Speaker 2>to come out to that press corps and handle things

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<v Speaker 2>like she did, it was It is such a striking

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<v Speaker 2>change from Karrage Jean Pierre in her incoonfidence. It's almost embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if I were a Democrat, I would be embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're gonna go, uh, Press secretary versus Press secretary,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, you guys. Sean Spicer aside, that

580
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<v Speaker 2>was a terrible choice, but whatever. Overall, I mean Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>Huckabee Sanders, oh come on, I put her up against anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and this young woman, she's kind of, I'm just gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a badass. I actually put the whole conference

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<v Speaker 2>on the blog today if you missed it. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a person like me that has a favorite press

586
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<v Speaker 2>secretary of all time, Aira Flesher, I'm always looking for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to take Airy off the throne, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>found them yet. This girl has potential. She really does.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite was when one of the members of the

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<v Speaker 2>press essentially said, hey, are you going to stand up

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<v Speaker 2>there and lie? And she was like, are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to sit down there and lie? I mean I paraphrased.

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<v Speaker 2>She was very very very good, very good. She also

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<v Speaker 2>just tweeted out some information that is going to be confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>She tweeted out, this is not a recision of the

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<v Speaker 2>federal funding freeze. It is simply a recision of the

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<v Speaker 2>OMB memo. Why to end any confusion created by the

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<v Speaker 2>court's injunction, the President's executive Order on federal funding remains

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<v Speaker 2>in full force and effect and will be rigorously implemented.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe my thrust and retreat theory was wrong. They're

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<v Speaker 2>barreling ahead with this, which means I have to look

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<v Speaker 2>at strategically where they think this is going to get them.

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<v Speaker 2>It could just be that they've decided that the fastest

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<v Speaker 2>way to get the bad parts over with that are

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<v Speaker 2>inevitable because of a massive contraction of government at a

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<v Speaker 2>least a mild recession. It happened during the beginning of

607
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<v Speaker 2>President Reagan's in first four years, we had a good recession.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, not like ya recession. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy recession, but it went straight down and straight

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<v Speaker 2>back up. I'm wondering if they're using the rip the

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<v Speaker 2>band aid approach off, but it is definitely creating confusion,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's unfortunate. I appreciate trying to keep people on

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<v Speaker 2>their heels because it makes it more difficult to fight

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<v Speaker 2>the number of things that they're throwing against the wall

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<v Speaker 2>right now, but nonetheless, it has to be done so

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<v Speaker 2>you don't throw the entire system into chaos. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens next. I don't know what this means.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I haven't really commented on it because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>clear on what all of this federal funding stuff actually

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<v Speaker 2>does yet. I don't think anybody is or we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to find out. We are going to find out when

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<v Speaker 2>we get back. Jimmy Seckenberger's popping by for a few

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<v Speaker 2>minutes because he's written a very interesting column in the

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<v Speaker 2>Denver Gazette about Jeff Co Schools. And this is another

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<v Speaker 2>arm of government that has decided that the people they serve,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who send their children to Jeff Co's schools,

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<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers whose property taxes fund their whole regime, they

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<v Speaker 2>no longer matter, and they have been dismissive and gas

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<v Speaker 2>lighting to parents, and Jimmy wrote a column about it,

630
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<v Speaker 2>and it's not over a no big deal thing. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, it's a pretty big deal when your third

632
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<v Speaker 2>in command gets investigative for child poor And we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about all that next. Keep it right here on KOA.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock

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<v Speaker 1>accident and injury lawyers.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's Mandy Connelly Condle.

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<v Speaker 1>On ninem.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh God, I want to study and the noisy because

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<v Speaker 4>through free Andy Connell.

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<v Speaker 2>Sad thing that Amnica means it's time to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>our pal anuals columnists for the Denver Gazette fillin host

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<v Speaker 2>here on KOA and k Hal Jimmy Singing Burger, Hello, Jimmy, Oh,

643
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<v Speaker 2>why don't I wait? You know what, why don't I

644
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<v Speaker 2>push the button?

645
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<v Speaker 7>It just makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad it makes you happy. It makes a

647
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<v Speaker 2>rod happy to play it and me happy to hear it.

648
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<v Speaker 8>So there we go, Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing that there's probably not many school districts in

650
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<v Speaker 2>the metro area that don't have your face on a

651
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<v Speaker 2>dark board. In some part of their of their room

652
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>because of the reporting that you do about the ridiculous

653
00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff that keeps happening.

654
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, district after district, his problem after problem, and they

655
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 7>just seem to never learn their lessons, especially when it

656
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<v Speaker 7>comes to crisis management that turns into in the case

657
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<v Speaker 7>of for example, Jefferson County School's botched damage control.

658
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>And we're talking about the botch damage control when Chief

659
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of Schools David Weise was found to be under investigation

660
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 2>for possessing child pornography and this he was fired by

661
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<v Speaker 2>the district on December nineteenth, and no announcement was made

662
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 2>that I'm aware of. Maybe there's some announcement that went out,

663
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 2>but then the media got ahold of the story and

664
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<v Speaker 2>then mister Weiss dies of an alleged suicide. What's the

665
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<v Speaker 2>timeline for when the district got involved in this process?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Well, do you mean in terms of letting the parents,

667
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.599
<v Speaker 7>family members, Yeah, yeah, the community, now, I would say

668
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 7>any direct contact happened a couple weeks later. He was

669
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<v Speaker 7>terminated from his position on the nineteenth of December, and

670
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<v Speaker 7>then the word started coming out about his what is

671
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<v Speaker 7>now known to be an apparent suicide on the first

672
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 7>of January, and then I think it was the next

673
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 7>day that the district January second, that finally put out

674
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 7>any sort of outreach to families, to the community directly.

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<v Speaker 7>Everything else, everything that they had heard leading up to

676
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 7>that point, Mandy was.

677
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<v Speaker 6>From the media.

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<v Speaker 7>Although what's pretty stunning is when you have something like

679
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<v Speaker 7>at this district Accountability Committee meeting last week, the chief

680
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 7>of staff at the district, her name is Lisa Rilou.

681
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<v Speaker 7>She denied that the media was notified before families, which

682
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 7>is hotly ab third and was pressed and questioned after

683
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.280
<v Speaker 7>question by members of the DACK about this. And then

684
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<v Speaker 7>finally later on when a parent said, so, can we

685
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 7>expect that you're going to go to the media first

686
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 7>before coming to us, she goes and says, oh, oh,

687
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<v Speaker 7>so we're back to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

689
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 7>Not how you handled no like that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, And you know, Jimi, I don't know if you

691
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<v Speaker 2>heard saw the story of a basketball game kerfuffle between

692
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<v Speaker 2>the Lotus Academy of Excellence and Denver Academy of the

693
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<v Speaker 2>Torah and I talked yesterday about how beautifully the schools

694
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<v Speaker 2>handled it right. They were completely transparent. They immediately communicated

695
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>with parents via their website. I mean, they really really

696
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 2>handled it the right way by just saying here's everything

697
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<v Speaker 2>we just did so you all know exactly what happened.

698
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<v Speaker 2>This is the exact opposite of what jeff Co has

699
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<v Speaker 2>done over and over and over again. I mean, Jeffco

700
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<v Speaker 2>was the first school district policy that I knew that

701
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<v Speaker 2>was keeping information from parents when it came to children

702
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and their gender. I mean, Jeffco. Doesn't it feel a

703
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>responsibility to the parents that it serves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the.

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<v Speaker 7>Stunning thing about this, especially when this is fascinating me.

706
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<v Speaker 7>I write about this in my den or is that

707
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<v Speaker 7>column yesterday? The saga that I went through to try

708
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<v Speaker 7>and get a recording of this DACK meeting last Tuesday

709
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<v Speaker 7>because they always record him. In fact, they've been live

710
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 7>streaming them of late, and they didn't. And so I

711
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<v Speaker 7>reached out to the chair of the DAK, who's not

712
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<v Speaker 7>a district employee, who's a community member as well as

713
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<v Speaker 7>a district employee, who's one of the liaisons to the DACK.

714
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<v Speaker 7>And why this is important too. David Wise was the

715
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<v Speaker 7>other liaison to the DAK. He worked directly with the DAK.

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<v Speaker 7>So you can understand why parents who are on the

717
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 7>District Accountability Committee would be particularly concerned about not hearing

718
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 7>a peep directly from the district themselves for weeks. That's

719
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.199
<v Speaker 7>a big sensitivity. But they At first I got a

720
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 7>response from the chair of the DACK saying I'm looking

721
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 7>into it, trying to find out when the video is

722
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.840
<v Speaker 7>going to be posted, assuming that it was. She clearly

723
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 7>assumed it was being recorded, which was what other members

724
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.360
<v Speaker 7>had reported to me. That it had been recorded, was

725
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 7>their understanding. But Jessco then gets back to me in

726
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 7>a Coorer response Open Records Act request response and says

727
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 7>there is no recording. And I say why, And they

728
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 7>get back to me and say, well, we had trouble recording.

729
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 7>We're in a different room that wasn't equipped for recording,

730
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 7>and coloredly skeptical because and I mentioned this. There was

731
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 7>a retreat of the board on January seventh where they

732
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 7>got together and it was during the day and very

733
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 7>little notice, and they were talking about their communications strategy

734
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 7>and troubles with communication. And this guy by the name

735
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 7>of Robert Greenawalt, who is really a watchdog in Jeffco Schools,

736
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<v Speaker 7>and he put in a records request for the recording

737
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 7>of this meeting, they denied that a recording existed. Then

738
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<v Speaker 7>he sent them proof that there was a recording, and

739
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 7>they sent him the recording. Well, I'm not sure if

740
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<v Speaker 7>there is there isn't really a recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't have a lot of credibility on this issue, No,

742
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<v Speaker 2>not at all.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the thing in a crisis like this, when parents

744
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 7>are deeply concerned, students are concerned, staff, the community about

745
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 7>how you could have the number three in the district

746
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<v Speaker 7>in this kind of situation, and this all happens, and

747
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 7>then there's a failure of communication. I mean, it's no

748
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.159
<v Speaker 7>wonder that there is growing outrage and upset over how

749
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 7>things have been handled here because you do this is

750
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 7>the thing. You just gave a prime example of two

751
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 7>schools that had an issue flare up that needed to

752
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 7>be addressed and they immediately did it. And here the district,

753
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.599
<v Speaker 7>just like Denver Public Schools and so many others, fails

754
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 7>to handle the moment, to meet the moment, and it's

755
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 7>like they don't even know what to do.

756
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 2>It's not well there when your first instinct in any

757
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>situation is to hide, obfuskate, cover up that to me,

758
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 2>it says you know what you're doing is wrong, right

759
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that that is a tacit admission of guilt of something.

760
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.440
<v Speaker 2>And maybe they're they're afraid that what they're doing is

761
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be misconstrued. Well, then they need to get

762
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>ahead of it. They need to be making an announcement

763
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>about what they're doing, why they're doing it. They're never

764
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<v Speaker 2>going to regain the trust of the people of jeff

765
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Co unless they change their ways significantly right now. And

766
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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling you're gonna have something to do

767
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>with that, Jimmy. You keep amplifying this stuff and you're

768
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>doing a great job with it.

769
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<v Speaker 7>Well, I appreciate it. I think really they say sunlight

770
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 7>is the best disinfectant, and it is so true when

771
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 7>you talk about those schools and what happened at that

772
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 7>game and how they responded to it. I think that

773
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 7>in part is because when you are are they both

774
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 7>charter schools? Both of them?

775
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 12>Ah?

776
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 7>Yes, okay, I think.

777
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Denver Academy the tour is a chart. It might be

778
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<v Speaker 2>a private school.

779
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure, private school, private school, but they're charter

780
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 7>or private, they have more direct accountability and responsiveness that

781
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 7>has to come to parents that are there going to

782
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 7>get from school district employees or members of the school

783
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.679
<v Speaker 7>board that have some kind of insulation and no way.

784
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 7>You know, we're the second largest school district in the

785
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 7>state of Colorado. We can kind of get away with

786
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.400
<v Speaker 7>this stuff. Well, they are starting to find out from

787
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 7>parent pushback, from my reporting in the Denver Gazad from

788
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:20.880
<v Speaker 7>what we're talking on the radio and all of that,

789
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 7>that actually, you're not going to get away with it

790
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 7>not anymore.

791
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 8>Yep.

792
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Amen to that, Jimmy. I appreciate your time today and

793
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>great column. Keep up the good work.

794
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that is Jimmy Sangenberger and linked to his

796
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>column today. But it's just it's another example of you know,

797
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.119
<v Speaker 2>whenever anybody tries to hide something, it just makes whatever

798
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<v Speaker 2>else is happening a million times worse.

799
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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you're a kid and you you try

801
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and pull a fastmot on your parents because you've decided,

802
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:48.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, at the ripe old age of like six,

803
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you can outsmart those old cogers, right, and your parents

804
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 2>tell you, at least this is what my parents told me.

805
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>It was one of those situations where something had happened.

806
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to blame my little brother, and my mom

807
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 2>was like, look, because my mom always talked us to

808
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 2>us like little adults. There was never any like kid

809
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 2>talk or baby talk in our house. She was like, look,

810
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 2>you did something wrong, and if you had just owned

811
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 2>up to it, we could have fixed the problem and

812
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>then you could have gone about your day. But instead

813
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 2>you chose to lie about it, and now it's a

814
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 2>million times worse. And this is how I feel like

815
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.639
<v Speaker 2>with all of these governmental institutions that are anything other

816
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>than please, here's everything you want to know about everything

817
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 2>that happens. I don't trust them when they try and

818
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 2>hide stuff. And I keep talking about these stories and

819
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 2>the hopes that it would be the last time we

820
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.559
<v Speaker 2>talk about a story like this, but it never is.

821
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<v Speaker 2>That's the sad thing. So I want to talk about

822
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:51.400
<v Speaker 2>one form of open government being commandeered by protesters, and

823
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 2>this has to do with the Aurora City Council. The

824
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Aurora City Council has been dealing with protesters at every

825
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 2>meet at every meeting, and they are a group of

826
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 2>people and family members of killing Lewis, who police were

827
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to arrest on an attempted murder warrant. They asked

828
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.880
<v Speaker 2>him to turn around, and I watched the body cam

829
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>video of this, so this is a fairly accurate description

830
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.480
<v Speaker 2>of what's going on. He had his back to them,

831
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 2>he was inside a car or reaching into a car.

832
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:26.760
<v Speaker 2>They said turn around with your hands up. He turned

833
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>around with his hand in his belt or his pocket

834
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 2>to get his cell phone, which was a dumb thing

835
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to do, and police opened fire. It was investigated. The

836
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 2>District attorney said it was justified shooting, and everybody likes

837
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>to judge the cops, but you're going to pick someone

838
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 2>up for attempted murder. You're not going to pick someone

839
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 2>up for jaywalking. This is a violent crime this man

840
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>has been accused of. And so the officers were cleared

841
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and the family and friends of killing Lewis are very

842
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 2>unhappy about that, and they want the Aurora City Council

843
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to do something. I mean, this is the thing I

844
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:08.519
<v Speaker 2>don't understand. The Aurora City Council should not ever order

845
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the District Attorney's office to prosecute someone because protesters show

846
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 2>up at the Aurora City Council. So I'm not quite

847
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.760
<v Speaker 2>sure what they're looking for here. But if the DA

848
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a winnable manslaughter or even murder case,

849
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>the DA would have file charges. But I watched the video,

850
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I don't wish anyone would ill will.

851
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't wish anyone dead, even if they're accused of

852
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>attempted murder. I don't want that. I don't want police

853
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 2>officers to have to go through the process and the

854
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 2>impact that taking another life has on a police officer.

855
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't want any of that to happen. But I

856
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 2>also understand police officers who want to go home to

857
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 2>their families and not die. I absolutely get that. It's

858
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 2>a pretty pretty strong thing. Well, here come killing Lewis's

859
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 2>people to protest every week, and the Auror City Council

860
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 2>for many weeks allowed them to come in and make

861
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 2>these comments and go well beyond their speaking time. They've

862
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>been very disrespectful of the rules of decorum for the

863
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Auror City Council, and the Auror City Council gave them

864
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 2>some leeway, and now they're out of patience, so they've

865
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 2>made rule changes to try and rain this in. The

866
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 2>protesters are not paying attention to the rules, so now

867
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.320
<v Speaker 2>they're doing virtual meetings because the Aurora ped said we

868
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 2>can't necessarily guarantee your safety. We don't know what these

869
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.760
<v Speaker 2>people might do, so now they're going to virtual meetings.

870
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm here to just ask this question. Who among

871
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 2>you has been persuaded by someone standing and yelling in

872
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 2>your face over and over and over again, because I've

873
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>never been persuaded by that, never once. And I don't

874
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.679
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what these protesters think is going to happen.

875
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 2>And I just think this is their way of expressing

876
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.559
<v Speaker 2>their grief or expressing their frustration, or, in the case

877
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 2>of Tay Anderson, an opportunity to get his faced on TV,

878
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>because of course he's there. By the way, Tay has

879
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a job. You know, we've always wondered because what was

880
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 2>his all GoFundMe campaigns to buy diapers for his child.

881
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>He has a job now at Manuel Middle School. If

882
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you have girls at Manuel Middle School, tell them to

883
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>watch out, as we already know that when he was

884
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>on the Denver Public School Board, he was found to

885
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>be exchanging creepy messages at a sixteen year old girl.

886
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing that out there as a warning. He's

887
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 2>the restorative justice coordinator. Restorative justice is one of those

888
00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:46.199
<v Speaker 2>things that sounds amazing on paper, but it requires a

889
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 2>herculean effort by all kinds of people at one time,

890
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's not a realistic situation. And I think it

891
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 2>is a huge reason that discipline in schools is out

892
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>of control because there are no repercussions. There are conversations,

893
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 2>they make him say sorry and all that. It's just

894
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 2>it's it's asinine. It's really asinine. And it's been successful

895
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 2>in very small school situations, and they try to put

896
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 2>into very big school situations and it doesn't work. But

897
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>of course, Tay Anderson a restorative justice coordinator at Manual

898
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 2>High School, so good for him. You won't have to

899
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:28.480
<v Speaker 2>do any more gofundmes in the near future, so we

900
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. I'm gonna move on because I

901
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 2>don't want to. I'm trying not to beat dead horses,

902
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>you guys, although I do have another dead horse story

903
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>at the bottom or on the blog. Today, joy Overbeck

904
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 2>wrote a really great column about exactly how Dave Williams

905
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:49.119
<v Speaker 2>is trying to remake the Colorado Republican Party tomorrow, as

906
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, by calling a meeting before new

907
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>officers are elected in order to remake everything about the

908
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Republican Party structure so he can try and remain in power.

909
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>That's all I can is that he's trying to remain

910
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.880
<v Speaker 2>in power, and I think he's seeing tomorrow. If enough

911
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 2>people show up to vote for these changes, then he'll

912
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 2>run for reelection. But if they don't, then he won't,

913
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 2>and maybe he'll recognize that his political career is over.

914
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I certainly hope. So I don't know. Okay, put the

915
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 2>dead horse back in the closet. It's fine, It's absolutely fine.

916
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:30.000
<v Speaker 2>So I want to talk about Mayor Mike Johnston real quick.

917
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spend a lot of time on

918
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.880
<v Speaker 2>this either. Mayor Mike has found himself in a bit

919
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 2>of a pickle. He has taught he has written a

920
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>bunch of checks. As my mom used to love the

921
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.519
<v Speaker 2>phrase that man wrote a bunch of checks that his

922
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 2>ass cannot cash. Not talking about actual money, but that

923
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 2>is exactly what Mayor Mike Johnston has done, and he's

924
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 2>continuing to do it continuing.

925
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 8>Now.

926
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>We already know he's been called to Congress. He's gonna

927
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.760
<v Speaker 2>have to testify. I don't have the sanctuary status of Denver.

928
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>No word on if he's gonna bring fifty thousand Highland

929
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 2>moms with him to Congress. By the way, I've been

930
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 2>thinking about that statement for like three weeks now, right

931
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.719
<v Speaker 2>since he said, you know, if the Fed sho it,

932
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.039
<v Speaker 2>we won't even have to send the police because fifty

933
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>thousand Island moms would be at the border to stop

934
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 2>the FEDS from do an immigration enforcing It was a

935
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 2>dumb thing to say, and he even said at one point,

936
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 2>I'll go to jail. And you know what Tom Homan

937
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 2>is like, Okay, get in my way. I'll put you

938
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 2>in jail. I'll be happy to do that. So I

939
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>thought about that statement about the Highland moms, and I'm

940
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.639
<v Speaker 2>thinking to myself, I think that Mayor Mike Kaufman is

941
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 2>the mayor of all those Highland moms who get together

942
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to play bunko or majong. You know, they get together

943
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and they talk about stuff, and then they have the

944
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 2>mayor's ear, and that's who he's governing for. He has

945
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 2>now come out to tout on CNN. He was on

946
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>with Jake Tapper and he actually said the following words.

947
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.559
<v Speaker 2>He said, Denver had been and this is a quote,

948
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:09.239
<v Speaker 2>very aggressive on enforcement on gang activity. And this was

949
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 2>in response to a question about Trendy Arragua, the Venezuelan

950
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 2>gang that is running rampant in Denver and Arora. He said,

951
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:20.199
<v Speaker 2>this is also a quote. We were early with covert

952
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 2>and overt operations in Denver to identify TDA numbers, arrest them,

953
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 2>prosecute them. So we've been very aggressive on this. He

954
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 2>said the same thing back in August, at the same

955
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 2>time he was telling us this wasn't a problem. So,

956
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe I miss it, but as Denver PD

957
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 2>done a bunch of arrests of TDA, because all I

958
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.599
<v Speaker 2>remember is that the DEA did their operation this week

959
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 2>and arrested a bunch of them. The ringleader of the

960
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 2>apartment complexes that were taken over was just arrested in

961
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 2>New York. So I mean, maybe there's a lot of

962
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 2>stuff going on. We said this at the time, Maybe

963
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:01.840
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff going on under the surface,

964
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 2>but it certainly does seem to be a weird thing

965
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 2>for him to take credit for now. So in a

966
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 2>joint interview with Mike Kaufman in August, the mayors told

967
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.880
<v Speaker 2>nine News that exaggerated an inaccurate news coverage at the

968
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Venezuelan gang crisis was creating hysteria that made it more

969
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:26.400
<v Speaker 2>difficult for the cities to combat TDA. Johnston said at

970
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>the time, the threat from TDA in Denver, it's smaller

971
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>than many other organized criminal networks that might have been

972
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.800
<v Speaker 2>here for decades, the one you know, like the Bloods

973
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 2>or the Crypts or others, and so we're monitoring it closely.

974
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, we've not monitored that. I'd really like to

975
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 2>see an answer to were any of the Venezuelan migrants

976
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that Denver paid a non governmental organization to place in housing?

977
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Were any of them placed? Were any of them gang members?

978
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Did we pay to get these people into these apartment complexes?

979
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Has anybody asked that question? Has it been answered? I

980
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I think we need to find out.

981
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that would be a real kick in the pants,

982
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't it to find out that not only is a

983
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Venezuelan prison game active in Aurora in Denver, but we,

984
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers, paid to give them a place to take

985
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 2>over after they moved in. So you know, ooh, right

986
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 2>now on Fox News they're showing a Dea police operation.

987
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is now No. I think

988
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that's a couple times I think that might have been

989
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 2>the bus the other day. I don't know, don't get

990
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:40.639
<v Speaker 2>me wrong. I mean, if Denver has been working on

991
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:42.840
<v Speaker 2>this super hard in the background and Denver pet is

992
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 2>doing over it and covert operations, I'm thrilled about that,

993
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 2>absolutely thrilled. But it also makes me look back at

994
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 2>August and go, well, then why did you gaslight everyone?

995
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Why did you gaslight Danielle Drinsky? If you already knew

996
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.440
<v Speaker 2>it was a problem, why did you hang her out

997
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to dry? And don't give me the we couldn't compromise

998
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the operations. Admitting they were here isn't compromising an operation.

999
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Admitting they're here and saying yeah, we know they're here

1000
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and we're working on it isn't compromising an operation. But

1001
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:16.679
<v Speaker 2>they chose to do the exact opposite. And this is

1002
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:19.679
<v Speaker 2>exactly what we were talking about with JEFCO schools. When

1003
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:23.519
<v Speaker 2>government tries to obfuscate, when they try to cover things up,

1004
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it, you know. Yesterday in the press conference,

1005
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the first things that Carolyn Levitt said, and

1006
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's leather or leave it, I

1007
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.440
<v Speaker 2>need to look. One of the first things she said

1008
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 2>was those drones in New Jersey. They were all authorized

1009
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.480
<v Speaker 2>by the FAA to conduct research and other activities. Why

1010
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't the Biden administration just tell us that? I think

1011
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.079
<v Speaker 2>I know they wanted to distract us from a bunch

1012
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 2>of pardons preemptively for family members, so they just let

1013
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:53.039
<v Speaker 2>us wonder if we were being invaded. That seems like

1014
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 2>a great way to run a trustworthy government, doesn't it.

1015
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 2>When we get back, I'm super excited. One of the

1016
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 2>representatives is joining us to talk about a bill that

1017
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 2>is making its way through and it's about a cell

1018
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 2>phone ban for schools. And I realize that many of

1019
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 2>you disagree with this. I think that now let me

1020
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.199
<v Speaker 2>walk that back. It is not about a cell.

1021
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:15.920
<v Speaker 6>Phone ban for schools.

1022
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 2>It is about a new bill that would allow or

1023
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:21.519
<v Speaker 2>require I don't know which school districts to create a

1024
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 2>cell phone policy. We're going to talk to representative legions

1025
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 2>about it next, so we'll do that right after this.

1026
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Representative Megan Lukens from Steamboat Springs is joining me to

1027
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:34.519
<v Speaker 2>talk about her bill that would allow school districts to

1028
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.320
<v Speaker 2>create a cell phone policy. Representative Lukens, welcome to the show.

1029
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 2>First of all, Hi, Well, thank you so much. I

1030
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 2>just want you to know where I am on this

1031
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:47.400
<v Speaker 2>particular issue. I am for cell phone bands in schools.

1032
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I think cell phones are incredibly destructive, and I heard

1033
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>horrible things from teachers, and I'm seeing things from around

1034
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the country where other districts have ban phone usage in

1035
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 2>school and the teachers and students are all on board

1036
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and getting great results. Maybe not all, but most. So

1037
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm all for this. So what does this bill actually do?

1038
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.480
<v Speaker 13>So, first of all, thank you so much. I completely

1039
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Speaker 13>agree with you. Before getting elected to the Colorado House

1040
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.000
<v Speaker 13>of Representatives, I was a social studies teacher at seamboat

1041
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 13>Sprims High School, and so I have seen firsthand the

1042
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 13>impact that cell phones in schools have on communities. So yes,

1043
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:32.480
<v Speaker 13>So this bill is a local control take on cell

1044
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 13>phones in schools. And the bill mandates that school districts

1045
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.840
<v Speaker 13>across the state have an effective cell phone policy in

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00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:43.679
<v Speaker 13>place to limit cell phones in schools. And so it

1047
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:49.280
<v Speaker 13>gives the school boards the ability to determine what they

1048
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:53.880
<v Speaker 13>want that policy to be. But it also is, you know,

1049
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 13>it's a local control perspective on how to do that.

1050
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.840
<v Speaker 13>So it does limit cell phones in schools via the

1051
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.599
<v Speaker 13>school board that makes the ultimate decision through the stakeholding

1052
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 13>process with constituents.

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00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 2>So could a school board, in essence, say we're not

1054
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 2>going to put any restrictions on cell phones? Could that

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00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 2>be their policy? Can ask the question again, could a

1056
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 2>school district say we're not going to put any restrictions

1057
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 2>on cell phones? Could they do that?

1058
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 13>They have to have a policy in place that limits

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00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 13>cell phones in classrooms.

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00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, when I talk about this, because I do talk

1061
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:30.559
<v Speaker 2>about this quite a bit, I think it is a

1062
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:32.800
<v Speaker 2>huge problem and that our kids would be so much

1063
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 2>happier if they didn't have cell phones in school. Immediately,

1064
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I get a ton of pushback from parents who point out, rightly, so,

1065
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.679
<v Speaker 2>we had more than our share of school shootings here,

1066
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>and I think parents are so freaked out about that.

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00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 2>How do you respond to that from a parent?

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<v Speaker 13>First of all, I would like to say that I

1069
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.239
<v Speaker 13>am definitely sensitive to all of that, and I am

1070
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 13>also scared of uh, you know, gun violence and what

1071
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 13>has happened in other schools, and I'm horrified by that

1072
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:10.400
<v Speaker 13>idea and God forbid that ever actually happen. But the

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00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:16.119
<v Speaker 13>first of all, when drafting the policy that school boards

1074
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 13>can put in place for they can have you know,

1075
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.119
<v Speaker 13>for high school students, they can say that cell phones

1076
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:24.039
<v Speaker 13>just need to be off and in their backpack, so

1077
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 13>if there were an emergency that were to happen, students

1078
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 13>could turn their phones on.

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00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:31.039
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 13>And then also the you know, when you're in an

1081
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 13>emergency situation, sometimes you actually need to be quiet and

1082
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:44.679
<v Speaker 13>not have people using cell phones. And so I'm definitely

1083
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:49.639
<v Speaker 13>sensitive to that. But also we know that the the

1084
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 13>benefits overall of what limiting cell phone use in schools

1085
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 13>can do for students, for educators, for the learning environment, overall,

1086
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 13>the benefits are significant and significantly outweigh the cost. So

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00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 13>I think that overall this system that will be put

1088
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 13>in place will help schools and maximi student learning potential.

1089
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:19.159
<v Speaker 13>But of course if parents have those specific concerns, they

1090
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 13>can speak during public comment when their school boards are

1091
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.960
<v Speaker 13>drafting up the policies that are specific and will work

1092
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.159
<v Speaker 13>for their individual school district.

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00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I just watched a short documentary on a school in

1094
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the UK that got all of the students to agree

1095
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.000
<v Speaker 2>that for six weeks they would not use their cell

1096
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 2>phones at all, and they put them in a big

1097
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:41.119
<v Speaker 2>bin in the middle of the like the lunch room

1098
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:43.639
<v Speaker 2>and at the end of the six weeks, they showed

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00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:45.599
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of interviews with the children. So these are

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00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.079
<v Speaker 2>middle school age kids, you know, And to a child,

1101
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 2>they said, I never realized how much anxiety my phone

1102
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>caused me. I never realized that it prevented me from

1103
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:59.320
<v Speaker 2>becoming friends with people that were in my classes. I

1104
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>feel so much better, I sleep better at night. I mean,

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01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it was pretty remarkable, and it's anecdotal, but there's more

1106
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and more data out there that shows that we've got

1107
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 2>to control our kids' cell phones better than we're doing

1108
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 2>now for their own benefit.

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01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:15.559
<v Speaker 6>So I am all for this.

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01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Where's the bill now and what are the prospects for this?

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01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 13>The bill actually has not been introduced yet. It is

1112
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.559
<v Speaker 13>supposed to be introduced this afternoon, so we're doing a

1113
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:28.960
<v Speaker 13>lot of press coverage to you know, get the word out.

1114
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 13>But we have been stakeholding this bill for a few

1115
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:34.639
<v Speaker 13>months leading up to the bill being introduced, and then

1116
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:37.360
<v Speaker 13>once it has introduced, it will be making its way

1117
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:40.480
<v Speaker 13>through the legislative process and the Colorado House of Representatives

1118
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 13>and then hopefully it is heads over to the Colorado

1119
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:44.199
<v Speaker 13>Senate and then to the governor.

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01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I got one question from our text line, why do

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01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 2>school boards Wait a minute, hang on, wait a minute,

1122
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that's that it it is. Why do we need pass

1123
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 2>legislation for schools to pass phone bans. Our district did

1124
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:58.360
<v Speaker 2>it on our own several years ago. This is more

1125
01:00:58.400 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to force the issue in every district.

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01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.760
<v Speaker 13>Correct, Correct, So there are some school districts that already

1127
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 13>have an effective policy in place, but we know two

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01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 13>thirds of the largest districts in the state of Colorado

1129
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.679
<v Speaker 13>do not have a policy in place. And so this still,

1130
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.679
<v Speaker 13>if successful, would say that every school district needs to

1131
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:20.360
<v Speaker 13>have a policy in place.

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01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:24.239
<v Speaker 2>All right, Representative Megan Luken's please keep me posted on

1133
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:26.920
<v Speaker 2>where this bill is and how it's doing, because, as

1134
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, I am I'm very much on board with this,

1135
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 2>but I already have some hostility on my text line.

1136
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you this is a very This is a

1137
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:38.800
<v Speaker 2>hot topic for parents. I mean, there are parents who

1138
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 2>are going to fight with every fiber of their being

1139
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.559
<v Speaker 2>to make sure their kid has a cell phone because

1140
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.719
<v Speaker 2>having that connection to their kid is more important in

1141
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.440
<v Speaker 2>their mind than the damage of cell phone could be doing.

1142
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's going to be a tough row, I think

1143
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.599
<v Speaker 2>at the district level. But I'm hoping at least this

1144
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 2>bill can be passed to force the conversation about what

1145
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.559
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing and what the science we have right now says.

1146
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:03.800
<v Speaker 2>So let's hope it goes.

1147
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.280
<v Speaker 13>Wonderful. Yes, I look forward to engaging with those folks

1148
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 13>through the democratic process, and I always am happy to

1149
01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:12.440
<v Speaker 13>take feedback.

1150
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you, Representative Megan Luken's. We will talk

1151
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:17.199
<v Speaker 2>to you again hopefully about this issue.

1152
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:18.880
<v Speaker 13>Thank you, Thank you.

1153
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Have a good day. You know, I know this is

1154
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:23.159
<v Speaker 2>a very unpopular subject with some parents. And I have

1155
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a high school daughter and we communicate via text message

1156
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:33.719
<v Speaker 2>all the time. But guys, we've got the most anxious, depressed,

1157
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 2>disconnected generation ever. And the main thing that's changed between

1158
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 2>the time I was a kid and now them is

1159
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 2>that they all have a little mini computer in their

1160
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:50.519
<v Speaker 2>pocket that separates them from the people in their immediate vicinity.

1161
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 2>And they're too young to manage this. And I love

1162
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:55.599
<v Speaker 2>the people who say, one more thing that schools have

1163
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to do that has nothing to do with education. It

1164
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 2>has everything to do with education. There was a teacher

1165
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I was watching an interview on YouTube about this like

1166
01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:09.559
<v Speaker 2>two years ago, and she said that in her classroom

1167
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 2>she spends ten to fifteen percent of the time that

1168
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.280
<v Speaker 2>should be spent on instruction dealing with kids on their

1169
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 2>cell phones. So yeah, it is a matter of education.

1170
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of creating an environment where kids are

1171
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 2>best going to learn, which we already know is not

1172
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:30.039
<v Speaker 2>going as well as it could right now. Mommy needs

1173
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:35.599
<v Speaker 2>to know we're in the school to deliver the Starbucks, Mandy.

1174
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I have a senior at BVSD. The new phone band

1175
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.559
<v Speaker 2>is not a good thing, and I'd love to know more.

1176
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Text or why not? Why is it not a good thing?

1177
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Is it an inconvenient thing? Or is it somehow harming

1178
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:51.039
<v Speaker 2>your student and their ability to learn? Those are the

1179
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.280
<v Speaker 2>questions that I have. Convenience is one thing. You know, guys,

1180
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.559
<v Speaker 2>if you're gen X, you had the same childhood I did.

1181
01:03:57.880 --> 01:03:59.800
<v Speaker 2>We went to school and if we needed our parents,

1182
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.960
<v Speaker 2>we walked our happy asses down to the office and

1183
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 2>we asked to call our mom or dad. That's how

1184
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 2>you did it, og style, and oddly enough, we all

1185
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:13.880
<v Speaker 2>survived well, I mean, the fittest among us. Anyway from Ralph,

1186
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I would be more inclined to limit cell phones if

1187
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the idiots running schools had real arm security, combat vets,

1188
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:22.000
<v Speaker 2>no cops. We've seen cops fail far too often, and

1189
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 2>then he followed up with it's not about convenience. We

1190
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.559
<v Speaker 2>can't trust schools to protect our kids. But then there's

1191
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 2>this text message teacher here. Sheriff trains us every year

1192
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:35.039
<v Speaker 2>for active shooter. Sheriff always states cell phone used by

1193
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>students during an active shooter situation is detrimental to keep

1194
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:42.280
<v Speaker 2>being kids safe. I have two high schoolers after training.

1195
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I fully support no cell phones, especially after our training.

1196
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:48.639
<v Speaker 2>I like this one Mandy with the cell phones. My

1197
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:51.280
<v Speaker 2>son's school has a big pocketed sheets hanging.

1198
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:51.599
<v Speaker 6>On the doors.

1199
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:53.719
<v Speaker 2>When they walk in, they put their phone in the

1200
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:57.440
<v Speaker 2>pocket and it better beyond do not disturb. That's great,

1201
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 2>But when cell phone bands are school wide like the

1202
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.400
<v Speaker 2>whole day, do you know what happens to kids at

1203
01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:06.239
<v Speaker 2>lunch and in the halls They start talking to each

1204
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:10.760
<v Speaker 2>other again. I have a friend who teaches in Orange County, Florida,

1205
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that's Orlando, and they instituted a cell phone ban, and

1206
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:18.159
<v Speaker 2>she said the difference in how students connect and interact

1207
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:22.000
<v Speaker 2>with each other is like night and day. So it's

1208
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 2>not just about being in class and paying attention. It's

1209
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:28.199
<v Speaker 2>allowing kids to have a minute where they are not

1210
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:35.880
<v Speaker 2>tethered to their cell phones. Seems to me having a

1211
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:38.239
<v Speaker 2>cell phone in a classroom and an active cell phone

1212
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 2>in a classroom as a privilege. Maybe we should empower

1213
01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:43.559
<v Speaker 2>high school kids to be like college kids and let

1214
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:45.719
<v Speaker 2>them have their phones and keep them off and be respectful.

1215
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Except that's not working. That's adorable. I mean, do not

1216
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:52.360
<v Speaker 2>have any high school students? Have you not been in

1217
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 2>a high school? I mean, that's precious, it really is.

1218
01:05:57.719 --> 01:05:59.400
<v Speaker 2>And I think for a vast majority of kids they

1219
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:01.039
<v Speaker 2>follow the rules, but not every kid will, and then

1220
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:03.000
<v Speaker 2>they become a disruption for the kids that are not

1221
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:08.519
<v Speaker 2>bringing their cell phones to school. It's not working, Mandy.

1222
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:10.159
<v Speaker 2>I work with gen xers who tell me they need

1223
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 2>their phones because they're scared. They call into work sick constantly,

1224
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.119
<v Speaker 2>do the minimum of that of what is required. They

1225
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:17.880
<v Speaker 2>have no idea how to take a phone message. And

1226
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I could go on or not, and I'm gonna assume

1227
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:23.320
<v Speaker 2>that you meant gen zers, because gen Xers we just

1228
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 2>don't answer our phones. It's fine, completely, Mandy. Do you

1229
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.400
<v Speaker 2>have any control over the advertising commercials during your show?

1230
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many cars for kids ads, I

1231
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.559
<v Speaker 2>can tolerate you guys. If I you know what a

1232
01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:40.679
<v Speaker 2>rod we should have started making copies of every text

1233
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:42.519
<v Speaker 2>message we've ever gotten about cars.

1234
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:46.480
<v Speaker 6>For kids, And I'm I don't think we have enough room.

1235
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:48.920
<v Speaker 2>We don't have enough room. And I'm just gonna tell

1236
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you guys this, And I don't normally throw an advertiser

1237
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 2>under the bus, but I have taken this to the

1238
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:57.880
<v Speaker 2>highest levels that I have available to me as an

1239
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:02.159
<v Speaker 2>iHeart employee, and was basically to their check's clear. It's

1240
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.639
<v Speaker 2>just out of your control. So if people would stop

1241
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:10.960
<v Speaker 2>donating cars to them from Denver and we can make

1242
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:18.079
<v Speaker 2>it stop. Lol. Training for school shooting, what hide and

1243
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:21.039
<v Speaker 2>wait for cops to arrive in five minutes? Yeah, yep,

1244
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 2>because they won't let armed individuals be in the schools

1245
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.559
<v Speaker 2>as they should be. But none of this matters because

1246
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:32.400
<v Speaker 2>your kid having a cell phone in a school shooting

1247
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 2>is not necessarily going to be that helpful. And in

1248
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 2>the meantime, all of those times there's not a school shooting,

1249
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 2>all of those other hundreds of days, hopefully a vast

1250
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:44.880
<v Speaker 2>majority of children are never going to have a school

1251
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:48.599
<v Speaker 2>shooting never, never, never, And the rest of that time,

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<v Speaker 2>we have anxious, depressed children who can't have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with the people sitting next to them. Is that better,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think it is. Your comfort as a

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01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:04.360
<v Speaker 2>parent should not supersede what may be better for your

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01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:06.519
<v Speaker 2>kid in the long run. And I'm telling you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a growing body of evidence that cell phones are

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute disaster. Not cell phone Like, if your kid

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01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.920
<v Speaker 2>has a flip phone, no problem, whatever, it's fine. But

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<v Speaker 2>having a smartphone and everything that brings into that kid's

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<v Speaker 2>hand is not good. And we've done a bad job

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<v Speaker 2>as parents. I know I have. I mean, my kid

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<v Speaker 2>spends way too much time on our phone. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's the ongoing conversation in our household. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I'm just I'm looking for a reprieve for kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for a place where they can legitimately not

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<v Speaker 2>answer a snap in three seconds, where they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about anybody pinging them or anyone sending them

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<v Speaker 2>something or you know what they're missing on Instagram. Just

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01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 2>give them that space at school. I think they would

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<v Speaker 2>be much happier, much much happier when we get back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, do have a lot of stuff to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about today, including what I think is a horrible story.

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<v Speaker 2>Our forensics department here in Colorado is in a complete

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<v Speaker 2>disaster situation. We're going to get into that and what

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<v Speaker 2>that means for rape victims in Colorado and what it

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<v Speaker 2>means for rape victims is terrible, absolutely terrible. This should

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<v Speaker 2>be declared an emergency, and I'll explain why when we

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<v Speaker 2>get back. Keep it on KOA.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock

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<v Speaker 1>Accident and injury Lawyers.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's Mandy Connell.

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<v Speaker 4>Mandy tonokam, got say ten nicety through prey, Vandy Connell,

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<v Speaker 4>Keithing sad Thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Black, Welcome to the third hour of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We are making our way through a busy broadcast Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and this next story is infuriating, you guys, really infuriating.

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<v Speaker 2>I put a lot of it on the blog, but

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't talked about it on the show. The Colorado

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01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Bureau of Investigations forensics department is a mess, and not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a mess because of any of the people working there.

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01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Right now, they get one of their chief investigators who's

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01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:27.760
<v Speaker 2>now facing I think like one hundred and one or

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01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:31.600
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and two felonies because she falsifies data, and

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<v Speaker 2>now all of the cases that she has had anything

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01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to do with over her multi decade career are in question.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what I'm going to talk about today. What

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about is that right now, in

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Colorado, if a woman or a man

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<v Speaker 2>is sexually assaulted and goes to a hospital and has

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<v Speaker 2>a rape kit done, a rape kit which would show

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<v Speaker 2>DNA in many cases, a rape kit which is incredibly

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01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 2>valuable to investigators and prosecutors who are trying to solve

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01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the case. Right now, in Colorado, it takes more than

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred days before those rape kits are processed. Four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred days. That is over a year, over a year

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<v Speaker 2>where rape victims know that their perpetrators are still out

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01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:27.399
<v Speaker 2>on the street, They know that that person is still

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01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.640
<v Speaker 2>out there possibly victimizing another person, and they have no

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01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:33.279
<v Speaker 2>sense of closure or safety or any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hundred days. This should be the biggest story in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>This should be the thing that everyone at the capital

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<v Speaker 2>is talking about right now. This should be the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that the governor stands up and says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I am allocating X amount of dollars right now, and

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01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 2>we are going to get these kits processed. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get them to the ninety days that is the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety days. That's still three months. And a friend of

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<v Speaker 2>mine asked, how long does it take to process a

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<v Speaker 2>rape kit? I'm like, I have no idea. I have

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01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:10.119
<v Speaker 2>no idea what that physical process of taking what is

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01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.840
<v Speaker 2>gathered in a rape screening and processing, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be thirty minutes, could be five hours, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea, but four hundred days. This is one of

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01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:27.640
<v Speaker 2>those situations where you have to wonder why this particular

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<v Speaker 2>form of evidence has this kind of backlog. Is it

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01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 2>not that important? Because that would be terrible. That would

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01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:40.039
<v Speaker 2>be absolutely terrible. What I do know is that right

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<v Speaker 2>now there are a lot of people working in the

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01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:47.399
<v Speaker 2>forensics field that are retesting. A lot of the former

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01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.119
<v Speaker 2>investigators now been charged with felonies a lot of her work,

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<v Speaker 2>so they can't get to these rape kits. So what

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01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:58.640
<v Speaker 2>exactly are we going to do about it? What exactly

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<v Speaker 2>is our Colorado legislature has found millions of ways to

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01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:04.800
<v Speaker 2>waste a ton of money on other crap? Are they

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<v Speaker 2>going to put the money together by the way. Connecticut

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01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and Massachusetts both cleared their backlogs in their labs within

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<v Speaker 2>thirty days, both of which had the same amount of

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01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.840
<v Speaker 2>kits that they are currently processing in about a year.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did Connecticut and Massachusetts do it? Why can't

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01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:28.920
<v Speaker 2>we send somebody there to find out and then do it,

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01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:32.560
<v Speaker 2>because we're leaving people who've already been victimized, We're hanging

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01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:38.760
<v Speaker 2>them out to dry. And it's just it's ugh. It

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01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:43.159
<v Speaker 2>is very, very hard to be someone who is sexually

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01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.359
<v Speaker 2>assaulted who then has the strength and wherewithal to go

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01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:50.279
<v Speaker 2>to the police, to go through the added humiliation of

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01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:54.000
<v Speaker 2>a rape exam, which is not pleasant. And they do

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<v Speaker 2>it because that's the only chance they're going to have

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01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:59.399
<v Speaker 2>to get justice, the only chances they're going to keep

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01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:03.159
<v Speaker 2>that peron from doing it to someone else. And so

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01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:05.760
<v Speaker 2>they swallow their pride and they're hurt and they upset,

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01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:07.479
<v Speaker 2>and they go do it, and we can't even bother

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<v Speaker 2>to test the kits for over four hundred days. This

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01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:14.960
<v Speaker 2>is just you know, we have Democrats right now who

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to push through a gun bill that is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely going to be challenged in court because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>most raconian gun bill in the country if they've passed it.

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<v Speaker 2>It flew out of committee yesterday three to two, after

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01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:30.399
<v Speaker 2>nine hours of people testifying, mostly against it. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats were, oh, yeah, we're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're willing to commit millions of dollars to defending

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01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.279
<v Speaker 2>a gun ban that is clearly going to be unconstitutional

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. But they can't commit millions of dollars

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01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to get this cleared. They can't enlist the help of

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01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:52.039
<v Speaker 2>outside people. They can't hire someone on a contract basis

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01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:54.800
<v Speaker 2>to come in and help take care of this problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is this okay? Why was it allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>get to four hundred days because at some point it

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<v Speaker 2>was maybe one hundred and twenty days. Somebody should have

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01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:09.720
<v Speaker 2>sounded the alarm then, but they didn't. And now it's

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<v Speaker 2>over four hundred days, and we have women who and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I try to be gender neutral, because men

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01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.159
<v Speaker 2>do get sexually assaulted, but let's be real, a vast

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01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:20.680
<v Speaker 2>majority of these people are going to be female, like

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<v Speaker 2>an overwhelming majority. So I want to be clear. I

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01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:27.840
<v Speaker 2>know that men do get sexually assaulted, but not nearly

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01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:31.039
<v Speaker 2>the numbers of women who are now waiting over four

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01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:33.359
<v Speaker 2>hundred days for the CBA to even be able to

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01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:42.760
<v Speaker 2>investigate their case. It's absolutely, absolutely terrible, absolutely terrible, and representative.

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<v Speaker 2>SOAPER is working on this now representative, but buff uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's represented? I think it's Matthew Soper for some reason,

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01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember his first name, but he's working on it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's now returning legislation that he filed in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>He co sponsored protect Survivor's Rights to rape KIP evidence

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure victims are notified before evidence is destroyed, and

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<v Speaker 2>after he heard testimony from rape victims, he realized we

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<v Speaker 2>are not doing enough. And he's absolutely right. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is an absolute mess. I certainly hope others at the

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<v Speaker 2>capital are paying attention to this because it's shameful. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, our wreck, our levels of sexual assault are

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<v Speaker 2>pretty high compared to other states. So yeah, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>got that going for us when we get back. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump has issued a slew of executive orders. They

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01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:52.039
<v Speaker 2>are so so many, so fast, it's really crazy. But

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01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:58.079
<v Speaker 2>one he issued yesterday I think is going to have

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01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:03.840
<v Speaker 2>a huge impact and possibly save a lot of children

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<v Speaker 2>from unnecessary medical procedures that they just don't need. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilation, and it

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<v Speaker 2>bans chemical and surgical sex change procedures for minors, not adults.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm always really clear to delineate that line. When

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<v Speaker 2>you turn eighteen, if you want to go down that path,

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01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.279
<v Speaker 2>feel free. I support you in that journey. Go knock

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01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:34.560
<v Speaker 2>yourself out. But for children, we don't let them sign

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01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 2>contracts for a reason. We don't let them get face

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01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:40.399
<v Speaker 2>tattoos for a reason. We don't let them drive cars

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01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:49.880
<v Speaker 2>for a reason because they're simply not smart, mature, and

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01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.520
<v Speaker 2>nor do they have enough life experience to make decisions

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<v Speaker 2>about their fertility before they're even old enough to understand

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<v Speaker 2>what sex is. You know, I this is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>best one out there in my mind. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna talk about reading scores. You guys, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about that. I don't want talk about

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<v Speaker 2>anything else negative. I'm sick of it. I'm absolutely sick

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01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of it. Gosh, what can we talk about that's not awful?

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01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:19.039
<v Speaker 2>You know what we're going to talk about when we

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01:18:19.119 --> 01:18:23.840
<v Speaker 2>get back, bark at the park. You know every professional

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01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:25.960
<v Speaker 2>team has them, Ay right? I found it even better

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01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:28.680
<v Speaker 2>video than the one you sent me because the one

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<v Speaker 2>that the Tampa Bay Rays play a doorbell sound to

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01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:36.640
<v Speaker 2>get the dogs going. This new Jersey team, they played

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<v Speaker 2>a doorbell and you can hear the dogs going crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're gonna talk about next. Yeah, we're gonna

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01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:46.239
<v Speaker 2>do that next. A busy broadcast day and I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>get to the stupid Wall Street Journal story that I'm

1425
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.359
<v Speaker 2>trying to get to. Er it is paywall that I

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01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:55.439
<v Speaker 2>read it already, so I can just share it with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has to do with the National Wait a minute,

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01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:03.920
<v Speaker 2>let me make sure I have the right the National

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<v Speaker 2>Assessment of Educational Process. It's known as the NAPE tests,

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01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and the NAPE tests are the only consistent test that

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<v Speaker 2>is given to students across the country. It's not given

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01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to all students, and they only given in fourth and

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01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:24.279
<v Speaker 2>eighth grade, so it's just they call it the snapshot,

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01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:28.399
<v Speaker 2>like this is just a gross macro look at education

1435
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.720
<v Speaker 2>in the United States of America, and it shows some

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01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:36.560
<v Speaker 2>bad news. The sixty seven percent of eighth graders who

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01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:39.399
<v Speaker 2>scored at a basic or better reading level in twenty

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01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:42.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty four was the lowest share since testing began in

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01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:47.239
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety two. Only sixty percent of fourth graders hit

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01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:51.479
<v Speaker 2>that benchmark, nearing record lows. The decline started before the pandemic,

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01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:55.800
<v Speaker 2>continued during it, and have persisted since. While the lowest

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01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:59.640
<v Speaker 2>achieving students fell further behind everyone else, The slides were

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01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:04.560
<v Speaker 2>brought affecting students across different states, school types, races, and

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01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:10.800
<v Speaker 2>economic backgrounds. I have a theory, and you know I'm

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01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:12.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna share it because I love to share them my theories.

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01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:19.560
<v Speaker 2>My theory is this that COVID did just incredible damage.

1447
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's just not my theory. That is being born

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01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:24.720
<v Speaker 2>out over and over and over again. But it happened

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01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:28.079
<v Speaker 2>at a time when a couple things happened around reading.

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01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Ten to fifteen years ago. We started adopting these reading

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01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:36.399
<v Speaker 2>curriculums where kids were just supposed to guess what words meant,

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01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:40.239
<v Speaker 2>which works when words are three letters long. You know,

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01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you can look at a picture, you can infer a meaning.

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01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:45.960
<v Speaker 2>But for higher level comprehension, that's a disastrous way to

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01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:49.920
<v Speaker 2>go about it, and at that time we get hit

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01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:52.960
<v Speaker 2>with the pandemic. At that time, parents, I don't think

1457
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:55.640
<v Speaker 2>parents are reading to their kids the same way parents

1458
01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>read to me, because we are on our phones too much.

1459
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I read to Qes starting when she was a tiny baby.

1460
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:07.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean when obviously she had no idea what I

1461
01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:09.359
<v Speaker 2>was saying except I was there standing and I was

1462
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:12.520
<v Speaker 2>reading her stories. I read stories to her every night

1463
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 2>before bed until she was too old, which honestly was

1464
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:18.119
<v Speaker 2>like the first year of COVID.

1465
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:19.640
<v Speaker 11>Was.

1466
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:21.399
<v Speaker 2>After that she was like, no, I don't need a

1467
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:22.800
<v Speaker 2>bed toime. And now I don't even know she goes

1468
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 2>to bed. She just like goes to bed and doesn't

1469
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>even say good night. That's where we are. But I

1470
01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>think all of these things converged at the same time.

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01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I know that a lot of people, I know, the

1472
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:35.680
<v Speaker 2>only reading they do is on their phones, and it

1473
01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:37.359
<v Speaker 2>could be a book on their phones. A lot of

1474
01:21:37.399 --> 01:21:40.159
<v Speaker 2>people have Kindle on their phones. I'm not knocking any way,

1475
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:44.119
<v Speaker 2>you consume literature, always want to be clear about that.

1476
01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:46.279
<v Speaker 2>If you listen to audiobooks, I still think that counts.

1477
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:48.159
<v Speaker 10>I do.

1478
01:21:49.119 --> 01:21:53.000
<v Speaker 2>As long as you're consuming literature, it's cool. But this

1479
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:55.039
<v Speaker 2>is one of those things that also again should be

1480
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:59.479
<v Speaker 2>a crisis, because well, if kids can't read, there's a

1481
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:02.520
<v Speaker 2>lot they can do. Now, I promise this story, and

1482
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I just want to play a little bit from the

1483
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:10.039
<v Speaker 2>bark at the park night. This is somewhere in New Jersey.

1484
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, as do his one and thirty one hits total.

1485
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:19.520
<v Speaker 5>Only girth with one too Bashett once again late on

1486
01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:21.159
<v Speaker 5>the swing and he sends it foul to the right.

1487
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:25.720
<v Speaker 5>Also ranks out there in the stolen based category, second

1488
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:35.000
<v Speaker 5>most stolen bangs in the league with twenty nine. How

1489
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:37.399
<v Speaker 5>the doorbell sound effect played over the sound. So I'm

1490
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:39.640
<v Speaker 5>here at Armenhamer Park and of course here on bark

1491
01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:42.199
<v Speaker 5>in the park. That's uh, that's asking for some noise.

1492
01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's essentially you.

1493
01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:44.359
<v Speaker 8>Know what that is.

1494
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:49.560
<v Speaker 2>That's dun dunt dund dun dent dun dun dent for dogs.

1495
01:22:50.439 --> 01:22:51.239
<v Speaker 6>I love all of that.

1496
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I do do.

1497
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:53.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh, it's so awesome.

1498
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I wish I wish Jinks was not so excitable around

1499
01:22:57.640 --> 01:22:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and not excited a little a bad way in an

1500
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:01.520
<v Speaker 2>excited way. But when she's when you're one hundred and

1501
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.079
<v Speaker 2>fifty five pounds and you're an excitable dog around other dogs,

1502
01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:06.479
<v Speaker 2>it's not conducive to bark at the.

1503
01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:07.359
<v Speaker 6>Park with Poppy.

1504
01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:10.159
<v Speaker 5>The sounds definitely get are going, but it's hearing the

1505
01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:11.840
<v Speaker 5>rest of the neighborhood dogs going.

1506
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:13.800
<v Speaker 6>And she goes, oh wait, what's going on?

1507
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I gotta chige in too. Yeah, I gotta get into

1508
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:17.600
<v Speaker 2>her chorus.

1509
01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:20.880
<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's it, that's what I want. Yeah, to be

1510
01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:22.479
<v Speaker 6>part of the store.

1511
01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:22.800
<v Speaker 7>Dog.

1512
01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:26.279
<v Speaker 6>When that one gets going in a I've been alerted,

1513
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:27.439
<v Speaker 6>I gotta tell about humans.

1514
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Jinx doesn't really bark with the other neighborhood dogs. She

1515
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:32.520
<v Speaker 2>stands on our back deck and looks at them judgingly,

1516
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:34.199
<v Speaker 2>unlike her owners.

1517
01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:37.840
<v Speaker 6>Poppy is not a trendsetter. Poppery Poppy is a followower.

1518
01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, every you know what, Not everybody can be

1519
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>a trendsetter with all the followers. The trendsetters don't really

1520
01:23:43.479 --> 01:23:45.760
<v Speaker 2>send any trends. We're gonna take a quick time out

1521
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:48.920
<v Speaker 2>when we get back. Heidigan All has a fantastic column

1522
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:52.239
<v Speaker 2>in the Rocky Mountain Voice today about the things that

1523
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:55.880
<v Speaker 2>make Colorado a sanctuary state. The governor keeps trying to

1524
01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:59.560
<v Speaker 2>say we're not, but in that famous line from Princess Bride,

1525
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I do not think that word means what you think

1526
01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it means when it comes to sanctuary states. We'll do

1527
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:09.479
<v Speaker 2>that right after this, as we invite our next guest,

1528
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Heidi Ganal, to come on the show this morning in

1529
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>The Rocky Mountain Voice, where you can always find that

1530
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:19.279
<v Speaker 2>at Rockymountain Voice dot com. She wrote a great column about, Yes, Governor,

1531
01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:20.840
<v Speaker 2>we are a sanctuary state.

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01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:21.319
<v Speaker 8>Hidi.

1533
01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:22.640
<v Speaker 2>First of all, welcome back to the show.

1534
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:25.880
<v Speaker 8>Thanks Mandy. It's great to be here. Boy, what a's

1535
01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:26.680
<v Speaker 8>time to be a lot.

1536
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to play this for you because I have

1537
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:35.199
<v Speaker 2>to give Kyle Clark kudos for this exchange with the governor.

1538
01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead and give you my audio grant here we go.

1539
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.039
<v Speaker 9>So misleading to say not in any way, shape or

1540
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:41.319
<v Speaker 9>form is it's a sanctuary state.

1541
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:42.399
<v Speaker 6>We cooperate fully with.

1542
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:47.399
<v Speaker 10>Our federal partners in all criminal matters, and we're work

1543
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:52.319
<v Speaker 10>closely with FBI, with DEA, with ICE, always have and

1544
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:54.600
<v Speaker 10>we always plan to because it's part of what we

1545
01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:56.319
<v Speaker 10>need to do to make Colorado safer.

1546
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:57.840
<v Speaker 6>That being said, we.

1547
01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:00.279
<v Speaker 10>Also have laws in place to make sure that the

1548
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:03.680
<v Speaker 10>federal government doesn't get to co opt local law enforcement,

1549
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:07.319
<v Speaker 10>taking them off the beat of keeping Colorado safe and

1550
01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:11.800
<v Speaker 10>preventing auto theft and drug dealing to instead force federal

1551
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:13.560
<v Speaker 10>immigration statutes.

1552
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:14.439
<v Speaker 6>If you're saying that we are.

1553
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:16.640
<v Speaker 9>Absolutely not a sanctuary state in any way, shape or form,

1554
01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:19.600
<v Speaker 9>could you define what you would see a sanctuary jurisdiction as.

1555
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:25.039
<v Speaker 10>Then well, Colorado fully cooperates with any valid federal warrant,

1556
01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:29.159
<v Speaker 10>federal order. We cooperate in any way we can to

1557
01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:31.640
<v Speaker 10>get criminals off the street. And so if there are

1558
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:35.119
<v Speaker 10>states or jurisdictions that don't, you know, I personally think

1559
01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:36.279
<v Speaker 10>that's the wrong way to go.

1560
01:25:37.159 --> 01:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, Heidi, the governor seems to be using his own

1561
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>definition of sanctuary state. But my favorite part is when

1562
01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:46.079
<v Speaker 2>he's like, I don't know what a sanctuary state is, but.

1563
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:46.640
<v Speaker 7>We're not that.

1564
01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:52.520
<v Speaker 2>In your column, you sort of said, here you go.

1565
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, you've got to you've got to admit we

1566
01:25:57.159 --> 01:26:01.880
<v Speaker 2>certainly have some sanctuary state life policies. Tell me a

1567
01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>little bit about what you've got in this column.

1568
01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:08.479
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean, Mandy, he is a gaslight governor. That's

1569
01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:10.319
<v Speaker 12>the best turnum I can come up with for him.

1570
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.159
<v Speaker 12>Like he literally thinks we don't look around and see

1571
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.920
<v Speaker 12>what's going on and understand that. He's like, he's both

1572
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:18.079
<v Speaker 12>faced lying about this, and it was one of the

1573
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:21.399
<v Speaker 12>key issues we debated about in the governor's race, and

1574
01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:24.119
<v Speaker 12>he didn't have any trouble admitting that we were sanctuary state.

1575
01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:27.479
<v Speaker 12>Back then, but the critical piece of legislation was back

1576
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:28.319
<v Speaker 12>in twenty nineteen.

1577
01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:30.159
<v Speaker 8>It's HB nineteen eleven twenty four.

1578
01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:35.600
<v Speaker 12>It explicitly prohibits law enforcement from detaining individuals based solely

1579
01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:39.399
<v Speaker 12>on ice detainers that leads to releases without a transfer

1580
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:40.720
<v Speaker 12>to federal custody.

1581
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:45.359
<v Speaker 8>So they basically just evade the Feds and don't cooperate

1582
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:45.800
<v Speaker 8>with them.

1583
01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:49.119
<v Speaker 12>That's one of many pieces of legislation that have led

1584
01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:52.680
<v Speaker 12>us to being a sanctuary state. And if you ask

1585
01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:57.199
<v Speaker 12>any law enforcement person in Colorado to listen to that clip,

1586
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:58.279
<v Speaker 12>they would laugh.

1587
01:26:58.399 --> 01:26:59.880
<v Speaker 8>They would literally laugh at that.

1588
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, some reporters have done just that. They've

1589
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>gone to Denver Sheriff's office and said what do you do?

1590
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, we don't cooperate. I mean, I have to.

1591
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Part of me, I'm not gonna lie, Heidi like part

1592
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:16.479
<v Speaker 2>of me, admires him for adopting the George Costanza methodology

1593
01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>of it's not a lie if you believe it. You

1594
01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, because because I am often amazed

1595
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>at his consistency and telling people that we are not

1596
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:28.039
<v Speaker 2>what we clearly are, and as a matter of fact,

1597
01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>in our news just a moment ago, we had a

1598
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>sound bite from one of the guys who's helping immigrants,

1599
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, figure out what to do next, and he said, well,

1600
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.439
<v Speaker 2>with our sanctuary laws. And I'm like, okay, So here's

1601
01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>a guy who's on the same side as the governor ostensibly,

1602
01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and he's talking about sanctuary laws. It's almost absurd. But

1603
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>yet here we are having this conversation about what a

1604
01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>sanctuary state is or what it's not. What did you

1605
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:53.439
<v Speaker 2>find out specifically about that?

1606
01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:58.079
<v Speaker 12>Well, as an example, a Rapo and Adams County they

1607
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:01.680
<v Speaker 12>do not track ice not vacations, and they don't honor

1608
01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:05.920
<v Speaker 12>detainers because of the state laws that don't recognize those practices.

1609
01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:08.159
<v Speaker 8>So a lot of this is just smoke and mirrors.

1610
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:11.560
<v Speaker 12>It's like these laws exist, the governor doesn't want to

1611
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:12.560
<v Speaker 12>really talk about them.

1612
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.439
<v Speaker 8>But in reality the reality of what happens.

1613
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:17.920
<v Speaker 12>Day to day is that there's there has not been

1614
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:21.319
<v Speaker 12>any cooperation between local law enforcement or state law enforcement

1615
01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:24.920
<v Speaker 12>and the Federal Enforcement Arm. And the Federal Enforcement Arm

1616
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:28.079
<v Speaker 12>was being told to stand down. Right now, they're active,

1617
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:31.720
<v Speaker 12>they're engaged, they're doing things in Colorado, and so I

1618
01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:33.600
<v Speaker 12>think it's just kind of shock and awe right now.

1619
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:36.359
<v Speaker 12>I don't think the Democrats or our leadership here, including

1620
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:39.520
<v Speaker 12>Jared Pulas know quite how to navigate this yet. Now,

1621
01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:43.199
<v Speaker 12>Jared is a master manipulator, He's a great politician, so

1622
01:28:43.319 --> 01:28:45.439
<v Speaker 12>he's going to leverage this however you can, to make

1623
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:46.319
<v Speaker 12>himself look good.

1624
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.920
<v Speaker 8>But again, you can't lie to our seeing eyes.

1625
01:28:50.039 --> 01:28:52.760
<v Speaker 12>We all understand what's happening here, and this is not

1626
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:54.159
<v Speaker 12>a figment of our imagination.

1627
01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:55.159
<v Speaker 8>It's real.

1628
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.680
<v Speaker 12>It's affecting families, it's affecting our children. And what's going

1629
01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:01.479
<v Speaker 12>to have happened in the coming months, I think is

1630
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:03.399
<v Speaker 12>going to be very telling for what happens in the

1631
01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:06.680
<v Speaker 12>twenty six mid terms and what happens to Jared Pulis's

1632
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:08.359
<v Speaker 12>shot at being president someday.

1633
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, I find it interesting to your point about

1634
01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>his I believe he has presidential aspirations. Of course, we

1635
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>all know this. I think he's going to run in

1636
01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight, no doubt about it in my mind.

1637
01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:22.239
<v Speaker 8>And I have to look at this.

1638
01:29:22.319 --> 01:29:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at this like, what is he doing. How

1639
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>is he going to massage this for his presidential run?

1640
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Because to your point, if it walks like a duck

1641
01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and talks like a duck. It's a sanctuary state, right.

1642
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no other way to look at the

1643
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>bills that we have passed and that he has signed

1644
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:41.279
<v Speaker 2>and make any other assumption. And yet he's just going

1645
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:43.279
<v Speaker 2>to keep saying it's not. And I bet you that

1646
01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:46.479
<v Speaker 2>he's going to convince at least some people that he's right.

1647
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And I don't even know how to combat that. I

1648
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:52.560
<v Speaker 2>really don't. I'm baffled. That's where my admiration for his

1649
01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>political acumen comes from, because he's created man in his mythology.

1650
01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:00.359
<v Speaker 12>It ends up how it ends up happening is when

1651
01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:02.640
<v Speaker 12>the election comes around, people this is going to be

1652
01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:03.319
<v Speaker 12>in their memory.

1653
01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:05.000
<v Speaker 8>They're like long gone from their memory.

1654
01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:07.760
<v Speaker 12>They're going to spend tens of millions of dollars or

1655
01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:10.039
<v Speaker 12>he will on ads that are going to say something

1656
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:13.239
<v Speaker 12>very different. A lot of people don't pay attention to

1657
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:15.840
<v Speaker 12>the day to day of what's happening in politics, and

1658
01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:17.560
<v Speaker 12>he'll get away with it, just like he did in

1659
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:20.039
<v Speaker 12>our governor's race, lying about certain things and the ads

1660
01:30:20.079 --> 01:30:22.439
<v Speaker 12>and on the TV and on the radio, and we

1661
01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:25.479
<v Speaker 12>don't have the resources to push back necessarily, or to

1662
01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:29.199
<v Speaker 12>do counter ads, or to really educate the voters on

1663
01:30:29.319 --> 01:30:32.119
<v Speaker 12>a day to day basis between elections so that they

1664
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:35.800
<v Speaker 12>don't get caught off guard and believe believe the things

1665
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:36.880
<v Speaker 12>they put up on air.

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01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Then well, I mean, did you have the same feeling

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01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that I had the other day when Mayor Mike Johnston

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01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:45.119
<v Speaker 2>was basically notified by Congress that they expect him to

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01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>be in DC to talk about Denver sanctuary policies. And

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01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, look at this, and I said

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01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:56.479
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter, I was like, Oh, if it's the consequences

1672
01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:59.279
<v Speaker 2>of someone's actions, how do you think the mayor, Mayor

1673
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Mike Johnston is going to do in that congressional testimony?

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01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:05.560
<v Speaker 12>Oh goodness, it's I mean, it depends on how it

1675
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:09.760
<v Speaker 12>goes who's after him, but I believe they're going to

1676
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:11.640
<v Speaker 12>try and hold him accountable and call him out for

1677
01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:14.399
<v Speaker 12>his terrible policies and what he's doing to a beautiful

1678
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:18.079
<v Speaker 12>city of Denver. I mean, it's this isn't a horribly

1679
01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:21.279
<v Speaker 12>difficult problem to solve, And I know that sounds simplistic,

1680
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:23.920
<v Speaker 12>but if you let law enforcement do their job, if

1681
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:26.399
<v Speaker 12>you let ice do their job, if you hold people

1682
01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:28.880
<v Speaker 12>accountable and follow the laws that are on the books

1683
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:32.760
<v Speaker 12>around enforcement of these laws, then this would get cleaned

1684
01:31:32.840 --> 01:31:35.800
<v Speaker 12>up pretty quickly, I believe, But they've got to be

1685
01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.079
<v Speaker 12>willing to do that, and that goes against a big

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01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:40.760
<v Speaker 12>part of their party, that the progressive side of the base.

1687
01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:44.439
<v Speaker 8>And the problem is police can't really upset them.

1688
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:49.600
<v Speaker 12>Johnston specifically can't upset them, and I do believe they

1689
01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:51.960
<v Speaker 12>probably think the answers are somewhere in the middle, but

1690
01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:55.399
<v Speaker 12>they're they're dancing that crazy political dance to make sure

1691
01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:57.039
<v Speaker 12>that they can win the next selection.

1692
01:31:57.520 --> 01:31:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Jared Polis is dancing at harder because he knows that

1693
01:31:59.840 --> 01:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>he's going to have to have some bipartisan support when

1694
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>he runs for president. May Ormike Johnstone, to me, seems

1695
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to be very comfortable running Denver as a progressive, openly

1696
01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>being a progressive. I don't think he feels any compulsion

1697
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:19.039
<v Speaker 2>to try to moderate on anything, and to me, that

1698
01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:22.840
<v Speaker 2>says he doesn't have aspirations beyond maybe, you know, taking

1699
01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:25.800
<v Speaker 2>over Diana to get seat when she decides to retire,

1700
01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:28.359
<v Speaker 2>because he would never have to work with the other

1701
01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:31.079
<v Speaker 2>side then. But I actually think he's in over his

1702
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>head here, Heidi. I really think that he is going

1703
01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:37.359
<v Speaker 2>to have to go and try and explain what's going

1704
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:40.399
<v Speaker 2>on in Denver when in my experience, when you ask

1705
01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>the mayor a question, he uses a lot of words,

1706
01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:45.600
<v Speaker 2>but he doesn't say a lot. So I'm wondering how

1707
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:48.279
<v Speaker 2>that's going to come across in Congress where they're on

1708
01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:51.199
<v Speaker 2>time limits and these members of Congress have a point

1709
01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>to make. I think it could be a disaster for

1710
01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the mayor, to be perfectly honest, I do too.

1711
01:32:57.279 --> 01:32:59.720
<v Speaker 12>And Mandy, I've heard different things I've heard he did.

1712
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:02.000
<v Speaker 12>I don't know if he still wants to run for governor,

1713
01:33:02.439 --> 01:33:05.600
<v Speaker 12>perhaps US Senate when hicks seat is up, or Bennett's

1714
01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.279
<v Speaker 12>seat if Bennett drop like decides not to run again.

1715
01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:10.880
<v Speaker 12>I do think he has higher aspirations. I think that's

1716
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:14.560
<v Speaker 12>why Reid Huffman and Mike Bloomberg have helped him. But

1717
01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:17.840
<v Speaker 12>to your point, I think he's done a lot of

1718
01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:21.399
<v Speaker 12>destructive things for that path. I don't think he's going

1719
01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:24.199
<v Speaker 12>to appeal to the middle of the road, but he

1720
01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:28.479
<v Speaker 12>certainly could win over the Denver voters to get to

1721
01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:31.000
<v Speaker 12>get seat when she retires, which maybe sooner than later.

1722
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you're looking for more columns, Heidie's column really

1723
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:38.840
<v Speaker 2>great coverage. Rocky Mountain Voice is doing it every day online.

1724
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>They've got really good people writing for them. What was

1725
01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the other story I wanted to ask you? You didn't

1726
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:45.319
<v Speaker 2>write it or one of your It's on Rocky Mountain

1727
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Voice to hang on, just give me a second, Give

1728
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:49.439
<v Speaker 2>me a second, and I'll find it very very quickly.

1729
01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:51.399
<v Speaker 8>I think his elevator music. Yeah, there you go.

1730
01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, vamp for me, Vamp for me. I don't know

1731
01:33:57.399 --> 01:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>what it was, but I will find it.

1732
01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:00.960
<v Speaker 8>Is going on with the wolves right now?

1733
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I got to tell you somebody just sent me

1734
01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a story that said, Hey, somebody gets killed in one

1735
01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:10.119
<v Speaker 2>of the counties that the wolves were released in and

1736
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>they say it was an animal attack, but they can't

1737
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:14.479
<v Speaker 2>identify what kind of animal it was. And I was like,

1738
01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>could this be a wolf?

1739
01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:17.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

1740
01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Wolves don't generally attack people though, but I think that's

1741
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>a very interesting problem to have, you know what I mean.

1742
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Now we got to figure out what's killing someone and

1743
01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>hope it isn't the wolves.

1744
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.159
<v Speaker 12>Well, and Mandy, a really important thing that I can

1745
01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:33.680
<v Speaker 12>come back on and talk to you more in depth,

1746
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:35.720
<v Speaker 12>or we could have Lindy Brown or our editor talk

1747
01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:38.520
<v Speaker 12>to you, a writer talk to you about is now

1748
01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 12>that the Trump administration is in play and has a

1749
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:45.600
<v Speaker 12>little bit more say over what happens with NEPA and

1750
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:48.600
<v Speaker 12>some of these environmental studies and laws. They need to

1751
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:51.960
<v Speaker 12>come in and delete or stop any agreements that they

1752
01:34:52.119 --> 01:34:54.319
<v Speaker 12>have with the State of Colorado that is allowing the

1753
01:34:54.439 --> 01:34:55.359
<v Speaker 12>state to kind of.

1754
01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:56.560
<v Speaker 8>Override what they do.

1755
01:34:57.119 --> 01:35:00.319
<v Speaker 12>That's really really important and going to be significant in

1756
01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:03.920
<v Speaker 12>our wolf policy going forward and in our ag policy, etc.

1757
01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:07.479
<v Speaker 12>So if anyone from the Trump administration is listening, you

1758
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:09.760
<v Speaker 12>got to get on this. You've got to delete any

1759
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:12.039
<v Speaker 12>agreements that you have that allow the state to run

1760
01:35:12.079 --> 01:35:14.399
<v Speaker 12>things where you have the authority to run it, because

1761
01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:17.199
<v Speaker 12>that's what the Biden administration did. They defer to pol

1762
01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:20.600
<v Speaker 12>Us to let him and his bureaucracies run things here,

1763
01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:22.600
<v Speaker 12>and they have a lot of power that they can

1764
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:25.199
<v Speaker 12>delete with a pen, I believe by doing away with

1765
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:26.079
<v Speaker 12>some of the agreements.

1766
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've just found the other thing that I wanted

1767
01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:30.479
<v Speaker 2>to talk about. The Rocky Mountain Voice has a full

1768
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:34.439
<v Speaker 2>list of President Trump's executive orders so far. Is that

1769
01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:36.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be updated so I can go back and

1770
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:37.319
<v Speaker 2>look at it when I need to.

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01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:40.800
<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, we will do it. Just for you, Mandy, Thank you.

1772
01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you taking the hard part of my job

1773
01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:46.279
<v Speaker 2>and making it easier. Hidiganball. She is part of the

1774
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:48.399
<v Speaker 2>team behind Rocky Mountain Voice dot com and you can

1775
01:35:48.439 --> 01:35:50.600
<v Speaker 2>read the column that she wrote that lists out the

1776
01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>bills that make us the sanctuary state no matter what

1777
01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>the governor tries to tell us. Heidi, good to see

1778
01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you again.

1779
01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:58.359
<v Speaker 8>We'll see you soon, you too, Thanks, Mandy.

1780
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:01.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, that is heidiganal and joining me in the studio.

1781
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Now Rob Dus and everybody. Hey, I heard you just

1782
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:06.600
<v Speaker 2>now on the phone, and this is all I hear

1783
01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Rob say. I'm just super awkward on social media and

1784
01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure what I'm doing. I was like,

1785
01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:17.239
<v Speaker 2>true words have never been spoken about Rob Us right there,

1786
01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm that awkward.

1787
01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:22.359
<v Speaker 14>What I meant by awkward was we're talking about doing

1788
01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:25.039
<v Speaker 14>video and audio at the same time. On the Super

1789
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:28.279
<v Speaker 14>Bowl piece, I've normally talked to the to the teams

1790
01:36:28.359 --> 01:36:30.560
<v Speaker 14>bars remember each team as a watch party in this

1791
01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:35.439
<v Speaker 14>in the city, because we're all trands correct correct transplants.

1792
01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:38.399
<v Speaker 14>So I'm trying to hold you know, I don't have

1793
01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:41.079
<v Speaker 14>good success of holding the phone and talking in my

1794
01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:43.920
<v Speaker 14>sick mic and doing the interview things right right, So.

1795
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You're you're struggling with that. Yeah, yeah, you know, Arod

1796
01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:49.800
<v Speaker 2>can help you with that. I know I was going

1797
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to be in New Orleans. Sorry, yeah, well no, he's

1798
01:36:52.079 --> 01:36:55.760
<v Speaker 2>here this, he's here for He's here until Sunday. Maybe

1799
01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I think he's going to

1800
01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>be out. Yeah, okay, well there you go. So in

1801
01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>any case, I will give robit tutorial on that, because

1802
01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:08.119
<v Speaker 2>that is going to be a big thing. You guys

1803
01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>have a couple of videos on the blog if you

1804
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:11.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear the beginning of the show. First of all,

1805
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the blog is really good today if I do say

1806
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>so myself. But I have a couple of things on

1807
01:37:17.840 --> 01:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the blog. One is a dog wearing a ski mask

1808
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:25.439
<v Speaker 2>holding one of those cameras that videotapes them as he

1809
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:27.359
<v Speaker 2>goes through a house. And that, my friends, is why

1810
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:32.319
<v Speaker 2>I have the internet. That video right there, And happy

1811
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>tenth anniversary to the legendary Marshawn Lynch interview where he

1812
01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>had to sit down for media day with the press

1813
01:37:40.239 --> 01:37:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and the only thing he would say is I'm just

1814
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:45.640
<v Speaker 2>here so I won't get fined for the entire time

1815
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:49.159
<v Speaker 2>that he sat with the media. I have that little

1816
01:37:49.319 --> 01:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>video on the blog and you know what, as a

1817
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:53.880
<v Speaker 2>member of the media, I find that frustrating, But as

1818
01:37:53.920 --> 01:38:02.079
<v Speaker 2>a human being, I thought it was hilarious. I think

1819
01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:06.640
<v Speaker 2>you're just playing for the Seahawks. Yeah, yeah, so I

1820
01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:08.399
<v Speaker 2>love that. Like I said, as a member of the media,

1821
01:38:08.439 --> 01:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm super frustrated, but honestly, it was hilarious, completely hilarious.

1822
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Another thing happened at yesterday's press conference that I find

1823
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:20.680
<v Speaker 2>very interesting. The White House is inviting new media content

1824
01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:24.279
<v Speaker 2>creators who specialize in news, that are creating content for

1825
01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.279
<v Speaker 2>news to apply for White House press credentials.

1826
01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:30.239
<v Speaker 14>Well, I mean, this is where it's going right well,

1827
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:32.760
<v Speaker 14>and because apparently because of.

1828
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Baron Trump, I mean whatever, his show, Theovon Show he

1829
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:42.680
<v Speaker 2>did Joe Rogan, and I really believe that that helped

1830
01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>him so much with the demographics that listened to those shows.

1831
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:49.119
<v Speaker 14>Absolutely so he was able to shave just just enough

1832
01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:52.960
<v Speaker 14>to bump up, yep, the other demographics exactly.

1833
01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's very interesting. I can only imagine

1834
01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:58.119
<v Speaker 2>some of the applications are going to get from some

1835
01:38:58.199 --> 01:39:02.359
<v Speaker 2>of these new media content creators with like follower I'm

1836
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm sure they're asking social media followers and stuff

1837
01:39:05.039 --> 01:39:08.880
<v Speaker 2>like that. People don't realize now. When I reached out

1838
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>to certain people for an interview, they send you a

1839
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>questionnaire that says, how many social media followers do you

1840
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>have on each platform? How many downloads does your podcast have?

1841
01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:18.560
<v Speaker 2>They want to know all that stuff before they'll greed

1842
01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to come on the show. Normally, those are the very,

1843
01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:23.640
<v Speaker 2>very digitally savvy guests that I want to have on

1844
01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the show.

1845
01:39:24.039 --> 01:39:25.680
<v Speaker 15>Those are the guests we don't get on the taking

1846
01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:27.159
<v Speaker 15>it for great yea, yeah, there you go.

1847
01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, if it's any consolation, I don't get the ves. Okay,

1848
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to love to talk about myself is big time.

1849
01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:34.239
<v Speaker 11>You know what?

1850
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I just heard Joe Rogan's podcast and twenty twenty four.

1851
01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Guess how many downloads? How many streams total?

1852
01:39:41.439 --> 01:39:41.600
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

1853
01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:43.520
<v Speaker 2>For the whole year? Who year, twenty twenty four.

1854
01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:47.600
<v Speaker 15>So he probably has a couple episodes every week. I'm

1855
01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:49.920
<v Speaker 15>gonna go with two hundred.

1856
01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Million, five hundred million, guys. I don't think there is

1857
01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:58.720
<v Speaker 2>a an entertainment network that reaches that many people on

1858
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:01.079
<v Speaker 2>a consistent basis, No that exists.

1859
01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:04.800
<v Speaker 14>Right now, or just repeat listeners, because five hundred million

1860
01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:07.079
<v Speaker 14>people is more than the United States, So that was

1861
01:40:07.159 --> 01:40:07.760
<v Speaker 14>over the whole year.

1862
01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's going to be listeners. But still, even if

1863
01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:13.439
<v Speaker 2>you only have what thirty million people listening to you

1864
01:40:13.520 --> 01:40:14.640
<v Speaker 2>on a regular basis.

1865
01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:16.720
<v Speaker 14>Thirty million is like an NFC championship game.

1866
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:20.359
<v Speaker 2>You're reaching more people than any news media outlet. Like

1867
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:24.279
<v Speaker 2>right now, you're beating everybody on Fox News. You're beating everybody.

1868
01:40:24.359 --> 01:40:26.640
<v Speaker 15>Hey, if you want to catch up on Joe Rogan's

1869
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:29.520
<v Speaker 15>download numbers, for taking it for granted, new episode dropped

1870
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:33.640
<v Speaker 15>to death, subscribe please there you go, Well done, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Done, And now it's time for the most exciting segment.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, just as a point of reference, in

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<v Speaker 2>all of my show podcasts since we started podcasting, like

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<v Speaker 2>seven eight years ago, I have had five million downloads

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<v Speaker 2>just as a point, I'm only ninety five million per

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<v Speaker 2>year short. And now it's time for the most exciting

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<v Speaker 2>segment on the radio of its kind in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what is our dad joke of the day?

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<v Speaker 8>Please?

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<v Speaker 15>Rob us in the world just gets me laugh at

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<v Speaker 15>every town beat.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, it's a little like he's

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<v Speaker 2>a little e or but it's okay, it's change your

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<v Speaker 2>pace yeah. Yeah, it's a nice nix it up joke

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<v Speaker 2>of the day.

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<v Speaker 15>A shout out to the guy who played the triangle

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<v Speaker 15>with our band for the last few years.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for everything. Wow, I love that joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, what is our word of the day.

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<v Speaker 6>Word of the day is diverse E I V E

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<v Speaker 6>R S. It's an ad wait a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>We just had this, grab another one. Diverse is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not diverse, it's I can't remember what it means, but

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<v Speaker 2>we just had this one.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, let's go to see what the word of

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<v Speaker 6>the day today is holding her I know.

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<v Speaker 15>Umm, facetious, facetious adjectivity.

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<v Speaker 2>Serious, Yeah, it's not serious.

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<v Speaker 6>Tongue in cheek, yes, humorous are funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. What is the largest native waterfowl

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<v Speaker 2>in North America?

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<v Speaker 6>The loon, the lune.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go sand.

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<v Speaker 6>Hill Crane's way better.

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<v Speaker 2>We're wrong, you are correct. What the trumpeter swand they're

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<v Speaker 2>one of North America's heaviest flying birds. When we were

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<v Speaker 2>in Europe, I was sitting on the outside on the

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<v Speaker 2>deck watching the world go by, and two swans come

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<v Speaker 2>flying up. It was a female and a male, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so honestly, honest to God, it looked like the female

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<v Speaker 2>was just pissed off at the male. She was flying

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<v Speaker 2>and she would land and he would kind of land

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<v Speaker 2>and she would fly away and he would It was

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like Get Lover's Coral in the Swan

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<v Speaker 2>world anyway, Rob DAWs and Mandy Cottle, what's our category?

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<v Speaker 15>Category for today? Four letter friends? Okay, we're letter friends?

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<v Speaker 6>Musically cool? Had one?

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<v Speaker 2>Manny? What's a gang?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct?

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<v Speaker 6>You love your best?

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<v Speaker 15>These also where flowers spring from.

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<v Speaker 2>Flowers?

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<v Speaker 11>What is it?

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<v Speaker 6>You love your best?

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<v Speaker 15>These also where flowers spring from I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 15>have no idea, Rob, what is birds?

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<v Speaker 6>Both four letters? Both wrong? Buds?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh bud, It's okay, there you go.

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<v Speaker 15>Milwaukee's MLB team is sometimes referred.

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<v Speaker 2>To the Rob.

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<v Speaker 6>What is correct? I'll give it to you.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, yeah, because there were two words, but there were

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<v Speaker 14>both four letters.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, okay, rest easy, Tunisia's on our side. In twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 15>it was even designated a major non NATO this.

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<v Speaker 2>What's ally correct? Score two to zero to zero?

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<v Speaker 15>All right? This word for a friend can also mean

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<v Speaker 15>bait to attract sharks.

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy's chum correct jump jump jum jum jump jump jump jumping.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow, and

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow's gonna snow, so it's gonna be snow apocalypse, just

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever it may or may not snow. Dave Fraser

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<v Speaker 2>was very clear about that he had no idea. He

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<v Speaker 2>has no idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Does that mean you'll be working from home?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I am going on a tour of Children's Hospital

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow morning, which I'm very much looking forward to because

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<v Speaker 2>we're working again with them, with the Mighty Millions raffle

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<v Speaker 2>where they actually always give away the home that's the best. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to go do a tour in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>so I will be here for the show. Uh, not

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<v Speaker 2>that that matters to the audience, because y'all can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>where I am half the time.

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<v Speaker 15>Anyway, Yeah, that basement setup I am really jealous of.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, we're gonna make room. Ka Wa Sports coming up next,

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it on, Kowa