Speaker 1: Get ready for.
Speaker 2: May thirtieth, twenty and twenty five, allegedly according to that
Speaker 2: thing we call a calendar. This the Friday night open
Speaker 2: mic on okeelly dot com, The Ocelly Effect.
Speaker 3: My co host Bepete is with me, and.
Speaker 2: You can be too if you call in three one nine,
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Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. In case you
Speaker 2: can't tell from my last couple of podcasts, I really
Speaker 2: hate the idea that I still have to keep track
Speaker 2: of the news. Uh, today, what do we got? Hey,
Speaker 2: it's good to sell US steel to Japan?
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Six months ago it wasn't according to Trump, according to
Speaker 2: the Democrats, it wasn't a good idea too, But now
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: Did they offer them a plane? Is it guitar? Again?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do I care at this point? Not really?
Speaker 2: Uh, Tariff's up, tariffs down Taco Grande as how Yankovic
Speaker 2: once said, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, man, I don't know what do you want
Speaker 3: from me?
Speaker 4: At this point.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the backlash, and I do mean the many,
Speaker 2: many backlashes that are about to come, and there's gonna
Speaker 2: be quite a few. Hey, Biden got pressed on the
Speaker 2: anniversary of his kid's death, as to whether he had
Speaker 2: any views on his well being not being represented properly
Speaker 2: by the Democrats, And does he think he should have
Speaker 2: gotten the hell out of.
Speaker 3: The race earlier?
Speaker 2: And would it have mattered with the circular firing squad
Speaker 2: that is the DNC, And and no matter at what
Speaker 2: point Biden jumped out, nobody was going to vote for Kamala.
Speaker 3: She couldn't run a primary. Oh wait, they got rid
Speaker 3: of primaries. Sorry, Bernie.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it is what it is, right, Is this all
Speaker 2: there is in the news. Oh, there's prison breaks going on.
Speaker 2: Oh and Diddy, Hey, I.
Speaker 3: Got a question for you.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think maybe if the right
Speaker 2: person goes and gives Trump a nice present, maybe if
Speaker 2: Kardashian shows up with a couple other celebrities, do you
Speaker 2: think Trump will pardon did he?
Speaker 3: Look? I'm not into the you know, the freak cops,
Speaker 3: but come on, you know this guy. They're going after him.
Speaker 3: It's no good. He was from New York.
Speaker 2: I know he's all right, right something like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: after all, he just let the Krizzlies out. They had
Speaker 2: a reality TV show, right, was it? The world according
Speaker 2: to Krizly or Grizly knows best, or you know, rich
Speaker 2: people are special, so f you whatever? That series was
Speaker 2: on USA Network, right or was it the Learning Channel?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, Honeybuber was on the Learning Channel. I can't
Speaker 2: keep track of the trashy celebrities out there.
Speaker 3: Although are they doing a new Jersey Shore? Maybe? Maybe not?
Speaker 3: Is it Jersday?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Oh wait, that's what they call Thorsday? Now Thursday? Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, confused, don't be. It doesn't matter anyway. And I
Speaker 2: hope you guys have other things to talk about. I
Speaker 2: really do, because I don't want to talk about Trump.
Speaker 2: And I don't care about which old man is kissing
Speaker 2: himself or not. And I don't care about how Kamala
Speaker 2: was gonna lose no matter.
Speaker 3: What she did. It's done, it's over with, forget it.
Speaker 3: Are we going to war somewhere else? Oh?
Speaker 2: Putin's gone crazy? Not really, He's just doing well. He's
Speaker 2: just doing Putin, Putin being Putin. And Trump is the
Speaker 2: only guy who should be shocked because he thought. You know,
Speaker 2: if I ingratiate myself to someone, I mean, it works
Speaker 2: for me. Anytime anybody kisses my ass, I give him stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but Putin wants Ukraine real bad more than he wants
Speaker 2: your flimsy ass friendship. Didn't figure that one out yet.
Speaker 2: Ask the people that, oh wait, you can't. A lot
Speaker 2: of them fell out of windows. I was going to say,
Speaker 2: ask the journalists that have been covering them, you know,
Speaker 2: intensely over the past few years. But unless you're an
Speaker 2: RT type propagandist, you probably fell out a window or
Speaker 2: drank some tea with something that was radioactive in it.
Speaker 2: So you know, And I don't begrudge the guy. This
Speaker 2: is the way the ket KGB operated. I mean, he
Speaker 2: got the gangster state. He went and got the gangsters
Speaker 2: that had been operating the black markets for a long
Speaker 2: time because when the Soviet Union collapsed, their regular market
Speaker 2: didn't work. So he went to the gangsters who still
Speaker 2: had business, and he got in business, and then he
Speaker 2: took over business and then explained to him, listen, it's great,
Speaker 2: and I know you're all capable of murdering whole families
Speaker 2: and everything, but remember this, I have the KGB. So
Speaker 2: they said, respect how big of a cut do you need?
Speaker 2: And they made him a billionaire and they didn't even
Speaker 2: have to sell Putin coin. By the way, when is
Speaker 2: Putin coin coming out? Because Beavis and butt Head excuse me,
Speaker 2: Eric and Don Junior have decided to partner up with
Speaker 2: a crypto thing, and of course the Trumps are now
Speaker 2: billionaires for real due to the crypto coin that has
Speaker 2: no value, but you bought it because it's a future Anyway,
Speaker 2: Do I care about any of this?
Speaker 3: Does it sound like I do?
Speaker 2: I hope not gonna ask BPTE how he's doing, But
Speaker 2: first I'm gonna get the phone number out of the way.
Speaker 2: For as long as we have it, three one nine
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. That is three
Speaker 2: one nine five two seven five zero one six. And
Speaker 2: you can determine what is going to be coming out
Speaker 2: of this this show tonight, join us, be a part
Speaker 2: of it. Tell us what you want to talk about.
Speaker 2: What's on your mind. Have you been to the grocery
Speaker 2: store lately?
Speaker 3: Can you afford food?
Speaker 7: Yet?
Speaker 3: I'm not doing so well with it.
Speaker 2: Indeed, I talked about pizza on Thursday, and somebody did
Speaker 2: send me some money for pizza.
Speaker 3: Which I appreciate.
Speaker 2: Uh, And I'm hoping to buy a pizza at some point,
Speaker 2: but I got to check and see if I keep
Speaker 2: the electricity on for the last couple of days of
Speaker 2: the month first, but after that, I think I might
Speaker 2: find a way to order a pizza during the course
Speaker 2: of this show, if I can get it done. But
Speaker 2: I don't know how much the app charges, and we
Speaker 2: don't have a car, so I can't just drive somewhere
Speaker 2: and go get it. And I would go get a
Speaker 2: little Caesar's pizza because it's better than half of the
Speaker 2: crap they try and push this pizza around here. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I am in the South, where no good pizza exists except.
Speaker 3: In very very special places. Tell you this Fatty's Pizza Fatties.
Speaker 3: That's the name of the joint in Macon, Georgia. Not bad.
Speaker 3: Couple other places along the way.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing stories that there is a good pizza place
Speaker 2: in North Carolina.
Speaker 3: Again, I don't know. Maybe, Oh, I know who can
Speaker 3: tell me? My co host be Pete. In case you
Speaker 3: can't tell me, Pete.
Speaker 2: I actually had missus O clean out the rotten tooth
Speaker 2: a little bit, so my face isn't all swollen up
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: But how's your week been? Brother?
Speaker 7: I spit there's a week around here and rain for
Speaker 7: the past week that we're dealing with understorms tonight. So
Speaker 7: it's been kind of not get a lot done, but
Speaker 7: get it done with two hours each day.
Speaker 3: Kid, Wait a minute, you were dodging rain this week.
Speaker 2: I got hit hard, matter of fact, no power Tuesday
Speaker 2: night and to Wednesday morning. And then I had all
Speaker 2: sorts of trouble with the internet because the storms came
Speaker 2: a rolling through Georgia. In fact, even though the weather
Speaker 2: people didn't report it, a whole bunch of people went
Speaker 2: online to show us pictures of tornadoes running up and
Speaker 2: down the highways in Georgia, you know, along with the
Speaker 2: prison break, oh in the shooting and making which if
Speaker 2: anybody heard about that mass shooting, the two brothers that died,
Speaker 2: two of the very few people that actually knew and
Speaker 2: making here dead.
Speaker 3: But anyway, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Another week, another couple of shootings, another couple of bodies
Speaker 2: here and making because that's just the way it is.
Speaker 2: But rain, Yeah, we had plenty of rain, matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I think hail one day, but lots of thunderstorms.
Speaker 3: But you were kind of fudging it there. Huh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was breaking up as it is. It got
Speaker 7: to s so it might rain two inches here, and
Speaker 7: you know a mile down the road it might just sprinkful.
Speaker 7: So but it has been and they're moving fast when
Speaker 7: they're geting through here. For some reason's last through Florida
Speaker 7: are great quickly selling. You know, one five minutes of
Speaker 7: intense weather and then it's pretty much called for.
Speaker 3: A few hours.
Speaker 7: Then another band will come through. So sounds more like
Speaker 7: the houses and stuff down in the yard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds more like what used to happen in
Speaker 2: Florida all the time. You know, where the rain is
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, you get a bucket dumped
Speaker 2: on your head and then it's like sunshine for a
Speaker 2: couple hours, then another bucket dumps on.
Speaker 3: Your head every once in a while. That used to
Speaker 3: happen in Florida.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You ever spend time in Florida?
Speaker 7: Yeah? You spend time down there every summer when I
Speaker 7: was with Baul team for spring training and all, and
Speaker 7: I had some fans from Loosemoter Beach, which is nice,
Speaker 7: smaller area but mainly familiar with Loosemore Beach in Hollywood, Miami.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Florida, we haven't heard from our Florida callers
Speaker 2: or Captain trips in a while. I'm hoping we get
Speaker 2: we get some classic callers, and I'd love to hear
Speaker 2: from that open air asylum they call Florida. There at
Speaker 2: the bottom of our map here in the US, right next.
Speaker 3: To the let me get it straight, the Gulf of America.
Speaker 7: Speaking of Florida, I've just reading the here's article here.
Speaker 7: The Coast Guard had four interdictions down there and they
Speaker 7: have hauled in thirteen tons of cocaine.
Speaker 3: Fourteen tons between.
Speaker 7: Four yeah, between four in addictions.
Speaker 2: That is a record high for cocaine in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: That's not normal, is it.
Speaker 7: That's usually high. I mean, I don't know if they
Speaker 7: were stuck out there and they or they had planned
Speaker 7: these four in addictions to get but they see on
Speaker 7: the May third, May fifth, they six than May tenth,
Speaker 7: and they were about one hundred and seventy miles rest
Speaker 7: of Mexico, and off that one alone, they seized thirty
Speaker 7: six hundred pounds in that one that they've just been
Speaker 7: cruising around bus and folks. Fourteen tons. Nice, that's a
Speaker 7: lot of damn cocaine.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 2: But you know what, if you pay attention to the
Speaker 2: things that people yell at me about you would have
Speaker 2: known that that was coming? Tell you why, because you know,
Speaker 2: in November and December, when people were trying to talk
Speaker 2: to me a little bit about you know, JFK stuff
Speaker 2: and Trump coming into office, they said, you.
Speaker 3: Know, what do you think will change?
Speaker 2: And one of the things I made as an off,
Speaker 2: offhand remark was, uh, we're going to see cocaine come
Speaker 2: back a little. And I wonder if my prediction is
Speaker 2: now coming true because a couple other things did too.
Speaker 2: But hey, I don't want to get into the I
Speaker 2: told you so it is here tonight.
Speaker 3: Why bother?
Speaker 2: Because can you even keep track of the things that
Speaker 2: are happening? But fourteen tons of coke that isn't unusual
Speaker 2: seizure in a short amount of time lately? I mean
Speaker 2: I'm expecting fentanyl, some maths. I mean, you know, something
Speaker 2: crazy gotta come in.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is now being questioned about how much ketemine
Speaker 2: he uses, according to The New York Times, And of
Speaker 2: course Elon tried to be as trumpy as he could
Speaker 2: be and say.
Speaker 3: Isn't the New York Times the.
Speaker 2: Same people that you know falsely reported Russia Gate and
Speaker 2: got a Pulitzer Prize, to which the reporter said, you know,
Speaker 2: I had to check my Pulitzer list. I'm not sure,
Speaker 2: mister musk. But back to this question as to whether
Speaker 2: you were using a lot of ketemine, what's up? I
Speaker 2: thought that was funny, along with the I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: this beautiful steel company great forever by selling it to Japan.
Speaker 2: That was interesting stuff in the news speed but anything
Speaker 2: interesting by you or in your way. Also, I think
Speaker 2: the great Pizza debate is something that we got to
Speaker 2: get into again. I don't know if you caught my
Speaker 2: Memorial Day and Pizza show, but I had fun with
Speaker 2: that because Domino still allegedly makes pizza.
Speaker 3: But what else is going on in your world?
Speaker 2: We've already got two callers lined up and I want
Speaker 2: to get to them next, but let me let you
Speaker 2: finish telling us what's happening in be Beatland.
Speaker 7: I don't know. Just this week was trying to catch
Speaker 7: up on some Knees items and some longer articles and stuff.
Speaker 7: But you know, I'm need to I'm need that. I
Speaker 7: don't who gives a crap? Phase this constant mirage of
Speaker 7: stuff out every day. It's like, I really don't care anymore.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: The biggest thing I see going on is now the
Speaker 7: race war started in the w NBA because Caitlin Clark
Speaker 7: is kicking everybody's butt. You know, a bunch of bunch
Speaker 7: of lesbians taking you know, get pissed off about it,
Speaker 7: so they start taking cheap shots. And now we've got,
Speaker 7: oh that video video of Brittany Greener out shooting basketballs
Speaker 7: around a pool, and Abert looks at that video. They
Speaker 7: can't see that Britney Greener is a guy. Is wide Well, I.
Speaker 5: Was leaving it.
Speaker 2: I've always wondered about Brittany there. But quick question is
Speaker 2: this Caitlin chick white? Is that what the problem is?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, like the driven snow Well, it.
Speaker 2: Is n usual for you know, whitey to do well
Speaker 2: with the basketball, but every once in a while it happens.
Speaker 3: You know, So what are you going to do? I mean,
Speaker 3: are you inclusive or not? Because you got to include
Speaker 3: the minority there, and in this case the minority is
Speaker 3: the white girl.
Speaker 7: Well and look at let's look at.
Speaker 8: The w NBA two.
Speaker 7: You know, Bill both got to get out there where
Speaker 7: he playings women for letting it fail. They're projected to
Speaker 7: least forty billion dollars this year. They've never they've never
Speaker 7: made a profit. They have been subsidized by the NBA
Speaker 7: all these years. They can't fill stadiums. And when Caitland
Speaker 7: Clark came along last year after the college Championships and
Speaker 7: started playing, she started putting suits in the stadium, well,
Speaker 7: they started selling tickets. And so you've got a lot
Speaker 7: of players that have been there playing for years with
Speaker 7: really very little recognition, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: because the white girl comes in, Oh, that's why everybody's
Speaker 7: taking interest. Well, no, you look at the stats and
Speaker 7: she's kicking your ass everywhere from Sunday. So it's I
Speaker 7: don't though. It's just another little offset of life that
Speaker 7: reflects the division that has to be imposed upon everybody,
Speaker 7: no matter what the institution. Somebody has to get in
Speaker 7: there and make it somebody against somebody else because it
Speaker 7: will getting old.
Speaker 2: Because no matter what, nobody wants to face the reality
Speaker 2: of the following. Okay, and I'm going to use a
Speaker 2: completely bizarre example here for sports entertainment because essentially, although
Speaker 2: people argue that well, sports entertainment's like wrestling, but other
Speaker 2: things are real sports.
Speaker 3: You know, what it's.
Speaker 2: Entertainment anyway, Because here's the bottom line. If you can't
Speaker 2: put asses in the seats, no matter how much the NBA,
Speaker 2: you know, subsidizes it, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: WCW went away because the WWE now okay, because they
Speaker 2: lost that lawsuit against Prince Charles and his people. WUCW
Speaker 2: went away because the products sucked.
Speaker 3: Pretty simple.
Speaker 2: You know, if the product's no good, people won't buy it,
Speaker 2: and they certainly won't pay exorbitant prices. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you take a look at how much it costs, you know,
Speaker 2: it's not like we're talking about. You know, go with
Speaker 2: the family and pay twenty five bucks and you get
Speaker 2: to sit there, and we'll also throw.
Speaker 3: You a drink or a hot dog.
Speaker 7: I'll give you a good example. Remember back when the
Speaker 7: women's the national women's soccer team at all the hullablue
Speaker 7: over salaries. All the men's teams gets paid more and
Speaker 7: blah blah blah, and we demand people pay for we're
Speaker 7: doing the same job. And you know, they got into it.
Speaker 7: Come to find out that the women's team had a
Speaker 7: totally different contract than the men's team in the way
Speaker 7: it was structured, and they voted for that car. I mean,
Speaker 7: they accepted that contract and then they went to bitch
Speaker 7: after the fact because they find out just how stupid
Speaker 7: they were signing the damn thing. And then you've got
Speaker 7: the women's team, you know, to show just how good
Speaker 7: they are, they put them up against a bunch of
Speaker 7: high school seniors and lost like twenty one to nothing
Speaker 7: or something. You know, some amazing school that high school
Speaker 7: males were just running circles around our women's national team.
Speaker 7: These are, you know, professionals and in every other aspect.
Speaker 7: So they made such a big stink about it that
Speaker 7: people finally said, you know what, school y'all, and interest
Speaker 7: just went down the tubes. You know, you see it
Speaker 7: when the Olympics come off or when they have the walk.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah yeah. The Way was telling god, ah, they're
Speaker 7: very oh yeah, blah blah rah. But other than that,
Speaker 7: you don't see the people show up at their game.
Speaker 3: So here's why.
Speaker 7: It's the same thing with the w NBA.
Speaker 3: Who watches Way, who watches men's gymnastics? How about that? Okay,
Speaker 3: does it all? Does anybody give a crap?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: So nobody cares. It's very simple. If nobody wants to
Speaker 3: go see it, and nobody wants to buy your merch.
Speaker 3: You don't have a business. Pretty simple when.
Speaker 7: You're losing forty billion dollars a year. Eventually, the guys
Speaker 7: and this happened in the NBA, I know a couple
Speaker 7: of times, you know, the news stories will come out, Yeah,
Speaker 7: we should jerk better pay. You know, we're professionals, and
Speaker 7: blah blah blah. It's like, well, if you don't put
Speaker 7: asses in the Saints and the and the NBA decides
Speaker 7: to cut off your funding, what the hell are you
Speaker 7: gonna do?
Speaker 3: The whole league is gonna collapse with the WUNDA and women's. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but here's the thing about that is that if the
Speaker 3: team sucks in the place, what.
Speaker 5: Do they do?
Speaker 2: They move it, or they get rid of it. They
Speaker 2: absorb it, right and it's gone. It's pretty It's a business.
Speaker 2: So I don't care man, woman race, It's irrelevant. I mean,
Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do? Complain As a white musician,
Speaker 2: I didn't have as many opportunities to make it as
Speaker 2: all these hip hop guys did.
Speaker 3: I should get what funding. I mean, you know, look,
Speaker 3: if you can't fill a.
Speaker 2: Place and I you know, I'm not even saying I
Speaker 2: was a super talented guy, but there was good enough
Speaker 2: to do stuff out there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but there's a lot of people out there that
Speaker 7: they enjoy college basketball. They don't spend a day watching
Speaker 7: the NDA.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 7: Those NBA games I watch are the ones I can
Speaker 7: catch during the finals.
Speaker 3: I'm never arrested the season.
Speaker 7: I don't give a damn about See. I don't care
Speaker 7: how I watch college basketball at the drop of a
Speaker 7: hat because it's talent. But the NBA has gotten to
Speaker 7: where it's just a run and dunk and I just
Speaker 7: don't see any enjoyment in it. I'd rather watch farmer
Speaker 7: league hockey than professional basketball.
Speaker 3: Well see, And that's the thing. Look and speaking mass
Speaker 3: and we vote with our dollars.
Speaker 2: Bottom line is, I don't give a damn about college sports,
Speaker 2: and I don't care. Even when I was the biggest
Speaker 2: baseball fan and I knew every player on every team,
Speaker 2: and I was watching the trades and I used to
Speaker 2: pay attention to the draft and everything, I didn't know
Speaker 2: a damn thing about the college players.
Speaker 3: I didn't care.
Speaker 2: The only time I got aware of them is when
Speaker 2: they were on the radar of my favorite team. Other
Speaker 2: than that, I couldn't tell you was playing for what college.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to this day, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what college is even a baseball teams. And
Speaker 2: I was a big baseball fan. But anyway, but I
Speaker 2: only wanted to watch the pros. I was one of
Speaker 2: those guys, very simple, and I don't watch many A
Speaker 2: worts today, but I do watch some baseball in some boxing. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far into this because
Speaker 2: we do have some college and I want to get
Speaker 2: to them, and one of them has.
Speaker 3: Been on the line all along.
Speaker 2: But we can continue this, maybe with the caller, or
Speaker 2: maybe they got something else on their mind. And I
Speaker 2: don't want to discourage other discussions, because you know, sports
Speaker 2: talk you can find somewhere else.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 2: When the power was out, though, I did get a
Speaker 2: good dose of the conservative radio stations, so you know,
Speaker 2: and every time I do turn it on, I can
Speaker 2: predict what they're gonna say. But then Hannity informs me
Speaker 2: of the next wave of what's gonna be said everywhere
Speaker 2: in conservative media. But you know, I listened to Red
Speaker 2: Eye Radio, I listened to Hannity, I listened to.
Speaker 3: Uh Man.
Speaker 2: Give me some of the other current conservative radio guys
Speaker 2: since Bongino left.
Speaker 7: You got Chloe and Buck, you got in in Russia's
Speaker 7: old slot, you got well, you got Glenn Beck and
Speaker 7: the Crude Full of Blaze and usually in the mornings. Yeah,
Speaker 7: oh what's his name? Oh God, I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't think of the Blaze as conservative though, they're
Speaker 3: a little bit like out there. They're kind of unique, but.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they they take a heavy conservative bent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of Mark Levin, that's that's one of the
Speaker 3: names I now.
Speaker 7: I try to listen to him, but they screw him
Speaker 7: around the Stacy down here that carries him that I
Speaker 7: can pick up. They always use Mark Lavin's show to
Speaker 7: put all these one hour oh we've got a special
Speaker 7: show tonight blah blah blah blah blah, and they cut
Speaker 7: into Levin's time, So a lot of times your reduced
Speaker 7: down to just two hours of being able to listen
Speaker 7: to them. So I just said screw it and I'll
Speaker 7: go We'll listen to it all while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because he has a pay to play in
Speaker 2: syndication contract, So if you can insert your local media
Speaker 2: in there instead of playing his stuff, you actually save money.
Speaker 2: So they save money on the bin when they interrupt
Speaker 2: with anything. Even the Atlanta Braves, I think, like the
Speaker 2: FM station that has him here in Georgia, the Atlanta
Speaker 2: Braves preempt live in sometimes. Okay, And I didn't even
Speaker 2: know who the hell's covering Limbaugh's spot anymore because it's.
Speaker 7: Just sorry tell you, Paul Travels and Buck Sexton got
Speaker 7: kicked to take over that slot. And I'm gonna be
Speaker 7: honest with you. You listen to those two three hours,
Speaker 7: it's like listen to the same person talk to him
Speaker 7: so argue with himself. Yeah, and yet these guys, they've
Speaker 7: been in this it's winning media so long, but there's
Speaker 7: to me, they're just so damn boring.
Speaker 3: It's lame.
Speaker 2: They're in a rut and they just you know, and look,
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about their political ideas. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about their delivery, their concepts. The versus shocking, you know,
Speaker 2: not like nothing shocking. It's like when you tune on
Speaker 2: into one of these news stations and they're like breaking
Speaker 2: news and.
Speaker 3: It's not breaking. It's freaking eight hours old already, nothing
Speaker 3: breaking about this, you know, breaking news.
Speaker 2: We have a few more comments to make about a
Speaker 2: story we gave you twelve hours ago.
Speaker 8: And I'll be honest.
Speaker 7: Radio is getting hard to listen to. Yeah, well I
Speaker 7: quite listened in the hell of years ago after Trump's election.
Speaker 7: The first time I said that's it. I saw ay,
Speaker 7: that's been saying the exact same thing for twenty freaking
Speaker 7: years many shows. Yeah, the just the exact same crap,
Speaker 7: just changed the names of the person that he's talking about.
Speaker 7: And I had to get that up years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, right, hey, listen, how do you think I feel.
Speaker 2: I was first listening to this jackass on WABC radio
Speaker 2: in New York. And believe me, that was before you know,
Speaker 2: Fox picked him up. Uh, they had just started getting
Speaker 2: interested in him with Hannity and Combs, remember that. Well
Speaker 2: before that, they tried using him as a solo guy
Speaker 2: on ABC and he wasn't pulling as well as Curtis Sliwa.
Speaker 3: For Christ's sake, you know, I mean that's rough when
Speaker 3: you can't beat Sliva.
Speaker 2: Sleia was like the filling guy that they stuck in
Speaker 2: every time slot and when somebody got sick, you know,
Speaker 2: on ABC Radio.
Speaker 3: And I found him way more entertaining. Hannity was just
Speaker 3: boring as hell.
Speaker 2: Uh, and It got boring with Combs too, because Combs
Speaker 2: never fought back. I mean, I love that clip from
Speaker 2: Family Guy when they're like, yeah, this is like like
Speaker 2: Hannity and Combs and they play handity, you're you're with
Speaker 2: the terrorists. You don't you hate America? Don't you don't
Speaker 2: you alan you hate America?
Speaker 3: And they turned the camera and it's droopy Dog going, well,
Speaker 3: they do know, Sure, I don't see it that way.
Speaker 3: You hate America, You're a terrorist? Oh right, I guess
Speaker 3: you win again. And I just thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 9: And you know, to do all this.
Speaker 7: Earlier of all that that I would try to listen.
Speaker 7: I try to listen to Livin only because it goes
Speaker 7: off of the you know, get off my wall. But
Speaker 7: other than that, it would be Gutfeld on Fox other lot.
Speaker 5: I couldn't.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't give you a don for all the other
Speaker 7: media from buying.
Speaker 2: Well, Gutfeld knows how to yell in five minute segments.
Speaker 2: I mean that that's good at anyway, Let's get to
Speaker 2: the callers and see what they think. Maybe they've got
Speaker 2: other views, not about conservative radio, not about the w NBA,
Speaker 2: not about Trump. Maybe they got something else to tell me.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll talk ice cream. Let's first go to Danny
Speaker 2: in California, see what's on his mind.
Speaker 3: So, Danny, you're alive?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 7: What up?
Speaker 5: I love ice cream. I love ice cream. It's hot here.
Speaker 5: We can have some ice cream after the show. I
Speaker 5: love ice cream?
Speaker 3: What kind? Tell me what kind of ice cream you're
Speaker 3: gonna go for?
Speaker 8: You know, as a child, I was a big fan
Speaker 8: of chocolate. You put chocolate, and my brother he loves strawberries,
Speaker 8: and my mother loves vanilla. And as I've gotten older,
Speaker 8: my wife is up the game. It's hoggen Dawson. No,
Speaker 8: it's pricey. She's got me addicted to Hoggendaws vanilla, and
Speaker 8: then everything else is a very close second.
Speaker 5: I'll eat any ice cream, all right.
Speaker 2: What about prepackaged stuff now? Listen, I'm a vanilla definitely.
Speaker 3: I love vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 2: That's my thing. I've always appreciated that. I had a
Speaker 2: little jag there for a while. One of my favorite
Speaker 2: things was chocolate chip mint. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: prepackaged stuff, right, like one of those single ice cream treats.
Speaker 3: You might buy at a convenience store. I dig the magm.
Speaker 3: I dig the mag what do you what do you like?
Speaker 5: Okay, it would be first, I can't a klondike bar.
Speaker 5: I love a klondike bar.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was just picturing daddy. Wait wait,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was. I had to picture like you.
Speaker 2: I had to picture you going, what would you do
Speaker 2: per a klondake bar? Remember that commercial?
Speaker 5: I just I remember it very well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I buy that hilarious.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but yeah, I could probably break a command
Speaker 8: for one of those if I was desperate enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Nice, but no, Yeah, yeah, I don't know which one,
Speaker 5: but I probably would end up breaking one of them.
Speaker 5: But no, I always loved.
Speaker 8: Ice cream, and uh I generally i'm pretty conservatives just
Speaker 8: the weekends. It's just like with alcohol, it's the weekends.
Speaker 8: Everything in moderation.
Speaker 10: Nice.
Speaker 5: So it was interesting you were talking about It wasn't
Speaker 5: the topic I.
Speaker 8: Want to start, but your talkalking about conservative talk radio,
Speaker 8: and it's really interesting. Rush Limbaugh got to start here
Speaker 8: in Sacramento and he was a hot item. But at
Speaker 8: that time with talk radio, it was much more diversified.
Speaker 8: You could get you know, you had liberals, you had conservatives,
Speaker 8: you had moderates and it's something called the fairness doctrine.
Speaker 8: And I remember back in the eighties and that was
Speaker 8: a big thing that Republicans wanted to get rid of,
Speaker 8: you know, they wanted to got they got rid of
Speaker 8: the fairness doctor. And if you did any political speech,
Speaker 8: you had to allow a certain amount of time to
Speaker 8: do a counter And the interesting thing about.
Speaker 5: The Rush Limbaugh show, his show was much better.
Speaker 8: Local because at least he got well for a while
Speaker 8: when I was listening to him here locally, is he
Speaker 8: actually allowed people to actually challenge him. And when he
Speaker 8: got into the national sagage, it was a totally different show.
Speaker 5: It was totally monitor and censored. Matter of fact, they
Speaker 5: even got blocked. They blocked your numbers going in. I
Speaker 5: mean he got chatted. I remember. Go ahead, Well, I.
Speaker 2: Was just gonna say they started like when caller ID
Speaker 2: was definitely vogue, right, they would start to like identify
Speaker 2: callers and know exactly and they'd be like, we don't
Speaker 2: want to hear this.
Speaker 3: Crap from you today and hang up on you.
Speaker 2: Because I used to call shows and my favorite talk
Speaker 2: radio station was the most conservative station, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: and they would have occasionally a liberal on there.
Speaker 3: But the fairness doctrine was long gone. People don't remember that.
Speaker 2: Necessarily, but there was a point in time where like,
Speaker 2: if you had a political candidate on, you had to
Speaker 2: allow equal time to their opponent, which was you know,
Speaker 2: and in California you growing up. I forget exactly how
Speaker 2: old you are, Danny, but the thing is you sixty three, okay,
Speaker 2: So Reagan being God is not a crazy thing in
Speaker 2: your mind. So I talked to John Barber about the
Speaker 2: years ago on this show, about how he was trying
Speaker 2: to have Ronald Reagan on and then the problem was
Speaker 2: he would also have to allow the Democrat and the
Speaker 2: Nazi Party guy all right, and he had to allow
Speaker 2: like the Ralph Nader of the day, like everybody now
Speaker 2: had a shot because he put Reagan on on radio.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was great. I thought that would
Speaker 2: be a great thing if you had to allow. But
Speaker 2: when you get these you know, conservative entities. ABC kind
Speaker 2: of did this in New York, believe it or not.
Speaker 2: WABC in New York highly conservative. They had Bob Grant
Speaker 2: on in the morning, and then they would have somebody
Speaker 2: between maybe and then Russe Limball would come on.
Speaker 3: I think around twelve o'clock, either ten or twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3: I forget.
Speaker 2: But then it would turn a little strange because at
Speaker 2: night they would have you know, they were rotating people
Speaker 2: in and out, and at one point any and Combs
Speaker 2: got a slot there. But there was like even this
Speaker 2: liberal which I think ended up on the view for
Speaker 2: a little bit, Lynn Samuels, who had people have mixed
Speaker 2: up Maria Heller for Lynn Samuels a few times and
Speaker 2: it's like, no, no, they're not the same thing. Lynn
Speaker 2: Samuels was like a full blown I'm going to defend
Speaker 2: every Democrat, you know, like I'm going to be absolutely
Speaker 2: textbook liberal, and it was hilarious because you know, people
Speaker 2: would either call up and love her or hate her
Speaker 2: guts on that radio station, like to the point where
Speaker 2: she was getting like death threats every show, and she
Speaker 2: didn't even have a regular slot, Like the Lynn Samuels
Speaker 2: show was like just a rotating substitute show. And Curtis
Speaker 2: Leewa had the same thing because before he got divorced,
Speaker 2: he was working on there with his wife Lisa, and
Speaker 2: they were the morning show there because they had to
Speaker 2: fire Bob Graham for saying something racist or whatever for
Speaker 2: a little while and then they brought him back. But
Speaker 2: Curtis and Lisa in the morning were kind of entertaining.
Speaker 3: And if you don't know.
Speaker 2: Curtis sleeway was in other parts of the country, Curtis
Speaker 2: Sleewa was a Guardian Angel, which was a voluntary guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: voluntary guy in a red beret that would go on
Speaker 2: to the subways and stuff and defend people and try
Speaker 2: to like keep the peace on the subway because quite honestly,
Speaker 2: in the late seventies, the transit cops, if they existed,
Speaker 2: I don't know where they were because you never saw
Speaker 2: them in the subway or on the platforms or on
Speaker 2: the trains or nothing nowhere. Anyway, I think it's interesting
Speaker 2: to bring this up. And I lost damn, I lost one.
Speaker 2: I lost two callers here, look, Jimmy James and a
Speaker 2: wireless caller from somewhere I don't know where. Guys call
Speaker 2: back in We are live, okay, Yeah, And I was
Speaker 2: just talking to Dan a bit because I had him
Speaker 2: on hold a while.
Speaker 3: But believe me, I.
Speaker 2: Want to hear from more of you. But what is
Speaker 2: conservative radio like in California now, Danny?
Speaker 3: I mean, what what is it like?
Speaker 8: Who's well it's well, I don't need to leave them
Speaker 8: listen to Conservai radio. All I got to do is
Speaker 8: have my coworkers come in and they just pair the
Speaker 8: same propaganda non stop.
Speaker 5: Is they want to get a reaction out of me
Speaker 5: or or or something of that nature. And I pretty
Speaker 5: much heard it.
Speaker 8: And you know, here's the deal. I can remember Rush Limba,
Speaker 8: now this is me. Now, I personally was a registered
Speaker 8: Republicans because my whole family was conserveed as not this
Speaker 8: tree even liberal, as a lot of people were perceiving for.
Speaker 8: I voted for Ronald Reagan twice. I voted for him twice,
Speaker 8: and I think it was around nineteen eighty five when
Speaker 8: Rush Limb but I started breaking out getting big here
Speaker 8: in Sacramento, and I heard the episode and somebody called
Speaker 8: them out because they did a little bit of research
Speaker 8: and found out he.
Speaker 5: Never registered even vote. He never even voted for Rush
Speaker 5: lim Book. I mean for Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 8: I voted for him twice. And here's the catcher, his
Speaker 8: personal attorney in him we go. He's actually a family
Speaker 8: friend of my family and we actually attended the same church,
Speaker 8: Catholic Church, and we both lecture together. He would do
Speaker 8: one week and I would do the other and I
Speaker 8: always found it humorous is that his attorney, Chris and
Speaker 8: I can give you his name if you want, would
Speaker 8: actually do when he would try to do his lecture,
Speaker 8: and he'd always try to insert his political agenda to
Speaker 8: conservative and if I tried to be lying, they would
Speaker 8: have raced Holy hell. And I just kind of giggled
Speaker 8: and told the priests, I go, you know, this is
Speaker 8: kind of silly, you know what he's doing. So but overall,
Speaker 8: Chris Russia's attorney, I mean, he was actually a nice guy.
Speaker 8: He was could be a blowhearted, but I mean, seep down,
Speaker 8: he was a nice got you know, I mean you
Speaker 8: always his treatment of me, it was always fair and nice.
Speaker 5: We never got into any discussions. You know what's amazing.
Speaker 2: You know what's amazing is this phenomena that I noticed
Speaker 2: in like alternative media land a few years ago, where
Speaker 2: I could tell what people were listening to based on
Speaker 2: the stuff they were parroting. And I really I complained
Speaker 2: about it a lot because I'd be like, look, I
Speaker 2: at least try and look at things from a different angle,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't just pick up what you know,
Speaker 2: Corbett says or what Jack says or whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: back in the day, when I would listen to certain
Speaker 2: people regularly, I'm not going to pick up what they
Speaker 2: say and just run with it, you know, like, but
Speaker 2: a lot of people did that. And when the podcast
Speaker 2: explosion happened, I noticed that there were certain people and
Speaker 2: even people that I worked with, that were just parrots,
Speaker 2: and that annoyed me to help. But you know what,
Speaker 2: it really shouldn't have because I should have been prepared
Speaker 2: for it. And why do I say that, because you know,
Speaker 2: they've tried the liberal talk radio thing a few times.
Speaker 2: They even tried that Air America network and you know,
Speaker 2: different things they've attempted to become a network. But here's
Speaker 2: the reality. Any of these so called liberals that agree
Speaker 2: with them don't listen to talk radio.
Speaker 3: They just never did. The numbers don't pan it out.
Speaker 3: It's very simple, my whole life.
Speaker 2: The only thing that you know catches fire on the
Speaker 2: radio when it comes to talk shows is the following
Speaker 2: three things. The way I see it, you know, you've
Speaker 2: got to exclude sports, that's a special circumstance, okay, But
Speaker 2: when you get down to it, there is a lane
Speaker 2: for conservative radio. There's a lane for local stuff like
Speaker 2: things that are just like in New Jersey, we have
Speaker 2: a station that's statewide New Jersey won on one point
Speaker 2: five and it's all about what's happening in New Jersey,
Speaker 2: in local towns.
Speaker 11: All that.
Speaker 2: You want to know why a road closed. You want
Speaker 2: to hear about, you know, the new businesses that are
Speaker 2: coming into the state. You want to hear about the
Speaker 2: controversy over this, that third thing with the police in Camden,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: You tuned to that station, that's a.
Speaker 2: Guarantee it's your local station. And the third lane is
Speaker 2: just the freak show, which is either your coast to
Speaker 2: coast am or your wild guy that talks about you know,
Speaker 2: far out subjects and let's talk about ghosts tonight, you know.
Speaker 2: And look, there's a full range of full spectrum of.
Speaker 3: Those kind of guys out there. But those are the.
Speaker 2: Only successful things that sustain themselves on radio outside of again,
Speaker 2: you know, like sports, and again I'm talking only talk radio.
Speaker 2: Conservative radio has this certain magic and I've never been
Speaker 2: able to figure it out to where the listeners not
Speaker 2: only are loyal, faithful listeners to people that sometimes have
Speaker 2: no talent.
Speaker 3: I mean in some cases they do.
Speaker 2: And I even have to admit that although I found
Speaker 2: it hilarious that Rush Limbo picked on drug addicts, was
Speaker 2: a drug addict, you know, but he had a talent.
Speaker 3: He had a showmanship about him. Most of them have that.
Speaker 2: But whether they have it or not, these guys will
Speaker 2: all effectively say the same thing for the most part,
Speaker 2: and their listeners will then take that when they're not
Speaker 2: tuned in for their hour two hours, four hours, you know,
Speaker 2: depending on the listener, they will take the exact statements
Speaker 2: from those guys, never fact check them, but repeat the
Speaker 2: political talking points, and I mean verbatim, and some of
Speaker 2: them don't realize that they're even repeating it. That is
Speaker 2: hilarious to me. They have the perfect brainwashing operation. And
Speaker 2: I don't know what the magic is, because if liberals
Speaker 2: ever do decipher that we are in trouble in this country,
Speaker 2: we're going to have a seriously confused situation here if
Speaker 2: we have liberal Like the liberals don't have the right parents.
Speaker 2: They parrot some stuff, right, but it's incoherent most of
Speaker 2: the time they don't deliver it.
Speaker 3: But conservative talk radio guy, he delivers that stuff.
Speaker 2: Perfectly to the point where I mean, how many conversations
Speaker 2: have you heard where like one of them is a
Speaker 2: standout in the group, even if they're all nodding their
Speaker 2: heads like they're listening to a Grateful Dead song. If
Speaker 2: they're all nodding their heads along, one of those guys
Speaker 2: is so good at delivering it that somebody will turn
Speaker 2: to them and say you should be on the radio,
Speaker 2: you need a YouTube channel. They will do it because
Speaker 2: they'll be like, this guy is better than all of
Speaker 2: us at it. He should be up there doing it too.
Speaker 3: They replicate, repeat, and absolutely carry the banner with them.
Speaker 3: And that is a magic that.
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 2: If I wanted to just, I don't know, go out
Speaker 2: there and cosplay as a conservative radio guy and do it,
Speaker 2: I guarantee I could do it. And if you put
Speaker 2: me on a radio station somewhere, I could do it energetically,
Speaker 2: I could stay and I'm already informed about a lot
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 3: But I guarantee you put me out there, as you know,
Speaker 3: Chuck Locke here on Conservative ninety nine point five. Here
Speaker 3: we go, now, let's get at it.
Speaker 2: And I like just went after all the talking points
Speaker 2: like they do. I promise you I could create an
Speaker 2: audience if I'm in the right area, like in Georgia,
Speaker 2: we still got plenty of space for these guys. You know, yep,
Speaker 2: I applied for a job with a Cumulus station here
Speaker 2: not too long ago.
Speaker 3: And actually my response, I was.
Speaker 2: Thinking about reading it on the air, but I don't
Speaker 2: know because it's still up in the heir as to
Speaker 2: whether they might be able to use me for something.
Speaker 2: But if I find that they that it's as dead
Speaker 2: of an end as I think it is, because I
Speaker 2: just wanted to go in there and maybe do some
Speaker 2: news reading. But if they decide to use me, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to divulge this. But if, like I think
Speaker 2: it's definitely a dead path, maybe I'll share it with
Speaker 2: you guys. But it was pretty much we've seen your
Speaker 2: social media so no.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, which I know, go ahead, you know is good?
Speaker 5: Okay, here here, here's here's the thing. Okay, remember all
Speaker 5: this media is a business. Yes, they want to make
Speaker 5: a profit.
Speaker 8: And and here's here's why you're never gonna get now.
Speaker 8: We actually at one time had a few stations before
Speaker 8: the Communications Act, probably Clinton and acted and it was
Speaker 8: more ran.
Speaker 5: By the FCC.
Speaker 8: You did have some stations where they were put late night,
Speaker 8: and they actually had some pretty good liberals that would
Speaker 8: you know, that were pretty They were good, they had
Speaker 8: some talent and ability.
Speaker 3: No, no, wait, way, pos for a second, Danny, pause
Speaker 3: for a second. I want the listener to consider.
Speaker 2: This that in liberal ask Commifornia, right, they still put
Speaker 2: the liberals on in the middle of the night, in
Speaker 2: the dead zone. Because even in Cammifornia, my friends, they
Speaker 2: can't get liberal radio to work.
Speaker 3: I just want to point that out. Oh no, go ahead, please, you.
Speaker 5: Got a point.
Speaker 8: Okay, that's what they did. But here's the you know why,
Speaker 8: here's the bottom line. Tell me their revenue isn't based
Speaker 8: on listeners. It's based on advertisements, right, those who pay
Speaker 8: for the advertisements.
Speaker 5: The problem they had.
Speaker 8: With the liberals and why they censored them and why
Speaker 8: they didn't like him, is that those conservatives hawk Post
Speaker 8: would never say anything that was going to cause a
Speaker 8: you know, any impact that could harm the advertisers. When
Speaker 8: they said Rustlingbolt that he brought in money, he did
Speaker 8: he any business could do no wrong. The free market
Speaker 8: is basically gospel. That's why he was put on there.
Speaker 8: And guess he was a talent that there was no
Speaker 8: objectivity you were never going to have them criticize an advertiser.
Speaker 8: And even they had the little on the on the commercial,
Speaker 8: they had him in check two to a point.
Speaker 5: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So here's my question for you, though you I really
Speaker 2: I'm asking this question sincerely because I happen to know
Speaker 2: that you're at least in part correct, because I knew
Speaker 2: people that worked for Snapple before it got sold right,
Speaker 2: and Snap was a New York concern. They were just
Speaker 2: there and they made the move to get on with
Speaker 2: Rush Limbaugh after they had success with Howard Stern.
Speaker 3: They didn't give a damn.
Speaker 2: About the politics or you know, oh geez, you're advertising
Speaker 2: with Erward Sturn. He's growth and they didn't care because
Speaker 2: they knew Stern's listeners were gonna buy Snapple.
Speaker 3: They bought it.
Speaker 2: They built that company off Howard Stearn's back. Then Rush
Speaker 2: Limbaugh gets in on it. It expanded more because Limbaugh
Speaker 2: was on like, you know, at Howard Stern's peak, he
Speaker 2: was on what thirty forty terrestrial radio stations. Rush Limbaugh
Speaker 2: was on something like four hundred stations. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: some of them were wayward little you know, nothing's in
Speaker 2: the middle of the desert, but it didn't matter. He
Speaker 2: took every station and could get on, which I think
Speaker 2: was one of the most brilliant things he ever did
Speaker 2: is his business when it came to you know, I'll
Speaker 2: take every crap station there is and put them together
Speaker 2: in a way. I was trying to replicate that in
Speaker 2: modern day by taking on stations in weird places. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was Georgetown, Texas. You can't even find it on
Speaker 2: a map.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I didn't care. You know, It's like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm on another station. Great anyway, How is it, though,
Speaker 3: that you can't sell things.
Speaker 2: Like locally, you know, the muffler shop, the pizza joint.
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me that a liberal can't sell
Speaker 2: pizza or tacos or you know, or come down to
Speaker 2: the photo you know, photo shoot place over here, or
Speaker 2: you know, come in and buy your clothes at the
Speaker 2: local sporting supply because they're liberal. Something is missing from
Speaker 2: that formula, And I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 2: I don't think conservatives are any better at pitching stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just that they happen to have that audience that
Speaker 2: I'm telling you is extremely loyal and parrots.
Speaker 3: Everything they hear.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is right there in plain sight,
Speaker 2: because if you're parroting every single thing you hear.
Speaker 3: That includes the commercials, doesn't it true. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I mean I think, but I think the radio stations,
Speaker 8: what is it like there's six shoots, there's really basically
Speaker 8: it's almost a monopoly.
Speaker 5: It's like six corporations.
Speaker 2: It's like five, yeah, altogether. Like when it comes to radio,
Speaker 2: you got yeah, Cumulus.
Speaker 3: IHeart and.
Speaker 2: Three others really and and that's what controls almost every
Speaker 2: single thing on your dial. Uh, the the the independent
Speaker 2: stations and like you know, mom and pop owns, they're
Speaker 2: gone pretty much.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, yeah that yeah, that's that's gone. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: mean there's two far between.
Speaker 3: But what is conservative radio? Weber?
Speaker 2: What is conservative radio like in California? Though I don't
Speaker 2: think you quite told me about it, I'm just curious.
Speaker 8: Well, it's the same as all over like occasionally okay
Speaker 8: the station that and I won't mention the numbers unless
Speaker 8: you want me to. Okay, they used to be Okay,
Speaker 8: it's KFK fifteen thirty on in Sacramento.
Speaker 5: Now I listened to them far before. They're for just
Speaker 5: the basic news and local thing.
Speaker 8: Even when you listen, like I tuned into the morning
Speaker 8: just recently, even the local hosts their conservative the one guy,
Speaker 8: independent Sacramento guy. I mean he's supporting conservative tours. I mean,
Speaker 8: it's it's a demographics and it may be just the
Speaker 8: customer base why they cater to. So, I mean, I
Speaker 8: actually have met the guy that does the radio here
Speaker 8: in sacrament I was introduced and I was going to
Speaker 8: mask someplace and the prest introduced me. He was a
Speaker 8: sports guy. Now he's doing kind of a local kind
Speaker 8: of mixed politics, community stuff. I was listening the morning
Speaker 8: and they're all they definitely are pushing you know, it's
Speaker 8: basically Trump is good. Look how he's getting.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's just kind of a law of law.
Speaker 8: Okay, Mott's say, Sean Hannity really really quick.
Speaker 3: Really quick, Danny, is it is it?
Speaker 2: KFBK Sacramento's news, weather and traffic. Okay, I'm doing I'm
Speaker 2: researching this while I'm listening to you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: So he's even the local morning guy that they probably pay,
Speaker 2: you know, twenty thousand dollars a.
Speaker 3: Year or two to show up and be there at
Speaker 3: four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: He's running basically the pregame for you know, Hannity and
Speaker 2: Limbaugh and everybody else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, her face prepting it up.
Speaker 8: And then maybe that's hey, you know what you know,
Speaker 8: give you an example, Rachel Maddele wrote a really good
Speaker 8: book and I was pretty impressed with her. But when
Speaker 8: she got on the MSNBC, she's I just saw through that.
Speaker 8: She's she's she's lied about so many things. Then again,
Speaker 8: you know, everybody's got a price. I mean she's being
Speaker 8: paid with thirty forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: I mean you start taking care of your family, you know,
Speaker 5: Oh what price do you have? Let's be honest. I
Speaker 5: mean I'd like to think I have more integrity than that.
Speaker 7: That.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know, is you're throwing up money at somebody.
Speaker 8: People.
Speaker 5: People can change pretty fast.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this is a pretty good size
Speaker 2: station you're talking about, because it's got an FM, it's
Speaker 2: got an FM repeater, it's fifteen thirty AM and ninety
Speaker 2: three point one FM, and quite frankly, it looks to
Speaker 2: me like they have they they got it nailed, and
Speaker 2: they are an iHeart radio station by the way, So
Speaker 2: they're one of the many, many corporate you know, cookie cutters, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which I.
Speaker 8: Believe probably one time they were locally on before the
Speaker 8: SEC start letting them, you.
Speaker 5: Know, monopolize.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably.
Speaker 2: Well, there used to be all kinds of rules about
Speaker 2: these sales, and now it's just if Trump is pissed.
Speaker 3: At, you're gonna have trouble selling your stuff.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I don't think you have CC
Speaker 2: cares now about what's going on with these stations. Pepete,
Speaker 2: you got anything to add to this conversation. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Danny here. I feel like I'm putting
Speaker 2: you to sleep over there.
Speaker 5: What are you?
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 7: Just the whole the whole conservative radio gig is. I
Speaker 7: don't know something's got to change. It's all the same thing.
Speaker 7: But when you're thinking you're listening from now the loon
Speaker 7: till six o'clock, six hours, that's the same thing. No
Speaker 7: matter who you listen to.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's.
Speaker 7: It's for Victum. Like I said, I quit listening to
Speaker 7: Charlie shann Had many years ago. There's ever gonna be
Speaker 7: anybody like Rust Limbaugh. I wouldn't like it.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say never look. Occasionally somebody might come along.
Speaker 2: But what's funny is I ended up right. Power was
Speaker 2: out on Tuesday night, right, So, like six pm or so,
Speaker 2: I turned on the radio with my battery charged and
Speaker 2: like started listening, and like I said, I caught the
Speaker 2: Braves game for a little bit. But then a little
Speaker 2: while after the Braves game, I tuned into the conservative station,
Speaker 2: and I gotta be honest with you, At about I
Speaker 2: don't know, two in the morning, I'm still listening to it,
Speaker 2: and I'm.
Speaker 3: Here and like you said, the same crap now from
Speaker 3: every host.
Speaker 2: Now I'm on the Red Eye Radio, which is the
Speaker 2: overnight guys, right, and they're like saying the same thing
Speaker 2: that Hannity was saying, the same thing that Levin was saying.
Speaker 2: You know, oh, but I actually challenged things a little
Speaker 2: and then they proceed to challenge nothing. And I'm just
Speaker 2: like h like, like I was bored, and I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here in the dark with no other options. You know,
Speaker 2: give me something different, breaking news, something, come on, let's something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who was it?
Speaker 7: Who wasn't that tried? The tried the liberal radio show?
Speaker 3: Who was it?
Speaker 7: It was awful?
Speaker 1: Did it?
Speaker 7: It made it about a year and then folded. Oh god,
Speaker 7: I can't think of that is her name.
Speaker 3: There's been a bunch of them, name of time period.
Speaker 3: I'll see if I can.
Speaker 7: Recall, because who's the who's the brunette? That was the
Speaker 7: actress Jamingoofalo. Remember when she came out with her program,
Speaker 7: they had like four people on the panel. That show
Speaker 7: lasted all of what six months? She was gonna be
Speaker 7: the next you know, the direction of the great White
Speaker 7: hope for liberal radio and it just failed. And I've
Speaker 7: heard other people say, well, the reason you don't have
Speaker 7: liberal radio is because they have all the other media. Oh,
Speaker 7: I can understand that, but you would think if they
Speaker 7: if they where if you had liberal on every TV outlet,
Speaker 7: you know, if you had a liberal bent or liberal leaning,
Speaker 7: you would think radio would be the same. I guess
Speaker 7: liberals just don't like listening to radio. They'd rather they
Speaker 7: pick out their podcast do sure.
Speaker 2: Well, and they all okay, but they all have a podcast.
Speaker 2: Janine Garoppolo, by the way, was part of the Air
Speaker 2: America thing I was talking about where they.
Speaker 7: Try all America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they try a.
Speaker 2: Liberal network and it collapsed. And the thing is because
Speaker 2: they got no listeners. Now, Look, it's delusional to say
Speaker 2: that all of the television media is just all liberal.
Speaker 3: It is. You go to News Nation, they are the
Speaker 3: Christian network that doesn't really want to push christ at you.
Speaker 7: Well, i'm talking mainstream. I'm talking at what most people
Speaker 7: get on TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 7: Out there that don't have cable and listen to MSNBC
Speaker 7: and CNBC and MSNBC Business and all of this odd
Speaker 7: you know, so they've got ABC, NBC, CBS or NPR.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's not it's not a matter of the
Speaker 2: cable anymore. Hold on, because you know, people get these
Speaker 2: things through their apps. They get uh, you know the
Speaker 2: what do they call that, dud Roku TV.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, there's lots of like free groupings of television
Speaker 2: apps out there. If you've got an Internet connection, you
Speaker 2: can basically create a TV out of any device you have.
Speaker 3: And they got News Nation and all these other places.
Speaker 7: Out but there's a well, but but there's not that
Speaker 7: many when you look at them. If you look at
Speaker 7: the news outlets and they're bent, the liberals by far
Speaker 7: have a monopoly on it. You see, it's the niche.
Speaker 7: It's the niche broadcaster or podcaster pulling the I mean,
Speaker 7: Joe Reagan, look at what he's doing audience wise. It's
Speaker 7: not that he's that great. It's not that he has
Speaker 7: you know, the one thing that his advantages. He does
Speaker 7: have a long form discussion. He'll go two hours with
Speaker 7: somebody okay on a podcast okay. And it's the guests
Speaker 7: that he gets on that brings a lot of his
Speaker 7: listeners in there. But what was the who was the
Speaker 7: group that just uh put Rogan at number two in podcasts?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you're missing out on might have
Speaker 3: touched Okay, they're they're like back there for a while. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're like an overgrown YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Uh, it's not just see that's
Speaker 2: where it drives me crazy. Across all these devices and
Speaker 2: everything else, free TV, cable, satellite and even still you know,
Speaker 2: there's no regular broadcast anymore.
Speaker 3: But the fact is that all the TV outlets that you.
Speaker 2: Can get all this supposedly liberal overrun stuff. There's tons
Speaker 2: of things out there.
Speaker 3: There's Ruddies outlet.
Speaker 12: Uh, Newsmax, yes still is, but we compared to twenty
Speaker 12: years ago, you've got so much Now people only have
Speaker 12: so much time during the day, Andrews.
Speaker 7: If I saw here and listed all of the people
Speaker 7: that I'd like to listen to for at least just
Speaker 7: an hour just to see what's at the top of
Speaker 7: their list, I wouldn't have enough time. We're so inundated
Speaker 7: with it now. It's hard to pick and choose what.
Speaker 7: You've got a lot of people, you know, old people,
Speaker 7: they rely on the TV. The younger crowd, they're getting
Speaker 7: the shit off of TikTok or off of Twitter, and a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people much I know, yeah, But my point
Speaker 2: is that the conservative outlets have as much of a
Speaker 2: presence at this point as the actual liberal outlets do.
Speaker 3: They really do, And I don't know.
Speaker 7: If you look at just podcasts alone, you look at
Speaker 7: all of the podcasts available out there, I would say
Speaker 7: the majority of them that I've looked at her that
Speaker 7: I've listened.
Speaker 5: To tend to be liberal.
Speaker 7: If you look at Twitter, the liberal presence on Twitter
Speaker 7: is huge. Don't get me wrong, There's a few conservative
Speaker 7: dent on a lot of Twitter, but there's a here
Speaker 7: margous amount of liberal crop out there. Just trying to
Speaker 7: read third every day on my feed is just to
Speaker 7: pull it. You don't even want to pull it up
Speaker 7: and look at it.
Speaker 3: It must be because you're reacting to it.
Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you now that the majority of liberal
Speaker 2: people think of X as conservative flooded.
Speaker 5: Okay, I haven't gone anywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah they have. They've gone to this thing called Blue Sky.
Speaker 7: It's just crashed. It's it's well, they're coming. People have
Speaker 7: left and they're not all wrong, and they're back on Twitter.
Speaker 2: But it's just like trying to say Facebook is either
Speaker 2: liberal or conservative. Right now, it's conservative friendly, it's conservative friendly.
Speaker 3: But of course it's evil. I can tell you it's evil.
Speaker 3: And you know it doesn't matter liberal versus conservative. But
Speaker 3: let's see. I mean, you know you think about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, when you.
Speaker 2: When you Tucker Carlson's an entity onto himself now, you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, Chris Ruddy Bright, part's a thing.
Speaker 7: Still, Yeah, they're look at what to look at what
Speaker 7: Tucker's doing now compared to when he first started on
Speaker 7: his own. Well he left and he started up on
Speaker 7: his own. Old Tucker's got his own. He's he's you know,
Speaker 7: he's it, he's he he's it. And now he's just
Speaker 7: another one in the pile.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But that paycheck is high.
Speaker 13: Look Bill, right, there's a lot of people out there making,
Speaker 13: you know, six figures high six figures off of the
Speaker 13: advertising and connections to their podcasts and things like that.
Speaker 7: It's there's a lot of money out there to be
Speaker 7: snapped up. But that doesn't make him any more listenable.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but I've never been impressive. Tupper Cals.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got I got something here that I just
Speaker 2: pulled up. Liberal versus conservative podcasts. Okay, the arm Stretch
Speaker 2: General Election. Okay, this was from twenty twenty four. Right,
Speaker 2: and if you use the Edison podcast metrics, which is
Speaker 2: the thing that exists, let's see tripputing the first conservative content. Okay,
Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro, Dan Bongino, these are the biggest shows, Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 2: these are the biggest conservative ones. Right, Pod Save America,
Speaker 2: the Midas Touch Podcast, and the Young Turks take the
Speaker 2: top three spots.
Speaker 3: For the liberals. Okay.
Speaker 2: The liberals shows, by comparison include several that have groups
Speaker 2: of hosts, including the top show, Pod Save America, which
Speaker 2: is the top show and I don't know anybody who
Speaker 2: listens to it features a rotating cast. The podcast universe
Speaker 2: offers an abundance of content, defeed, every kind of political appetite.
Speaker 2: Edison Podcast Metrics is the only podcast measurement service that
Speaker 2: covers the entire space, including all publishers and platforms.
Speaker 3: Okay, blah blah, blah blah blah, Edison Research. All right,
Speaker 3: what did they come up with here?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out to see exactly what
Speaker 2: they're saying, like by comparison, what's the deal.
Speaker 7: They have a percentage?
Speaker 2: When they have a chart here, I'm trying to skim
Speaker 2: through it quickly to see if I can read it
Speaker 2: all fast. But let's see on the conservative side, like Okay,
Speaker 2: Like I said, the Ben Shapiro Show is your highest one,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's produced.
Speaker 7: This raises me that, yeah, that Ben Sapio would be
Speaker 7: number one. He's any to listen to. If you know
Speaker 7: what it's like, Piece on speed is whole waking existence,
Speaker 7: and it's like them, slow down. I'm trying if you
Speaker 7: want me to listen to you, slow down. You talk
Speaker 7: so fast that sometimes I can't even understand what the
Speaker 7: hell you're trying to say. Well, I got the most
Speaker 7: of nooxis to meet him and Trump or two of
Speaker 7: the most debnoxist people that have to sit and listen
Speaker 7: to for any link to talk.
Speaker 2: Fine, but just think about I got the top tens
Speaker 2: in front of me right for twenty twenty four, Okay,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking Adam, and I'm saying to myself, you
Speaker 2: know what, the people that actually get attention from other
Speaker 2: media outlets, it's all the conservatives pretty much outside of
Speaker 2: Pod Save America. They have hosts that show up, you know,
Speaker 2: here and there, but they're a rotating group. And the
Speaker 2: young Turks you hear about them sometimes. But let's go
Speaker 2: through the top ten of conservatives, all right. The Ben
Speaker 2: Shapiro Show, the Dan Bongino Show, which is you know
Speaker 2: now no longer there because he's Deputy director of the FBI,
Speaker 2: The Tucker Carlson Show, number three, The Megan Kelly Show, okay,
Speaker 2: The Sean Hannity Show is number five, Mark Levin is
Speaker 2: number six, The Glenn Beck Program number seven. Okay, Candace,
Speaker 2: that one I don't know. That's the first one on
Speaker 2: the show. I don't know, and that is Kandae owns.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying I don't know the show at all.
Speaker 2: The Alex Jones Show. They categorize that as part of
Speaker 2: the conservative media, which is right at this point.
Speaker 3: The Matt Walsh Show. Now I don't know Matt Walsh,
Speaker 3: but Matt Walsh and is a wire.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Warner, I was gonna say, now, let's.
Speaker 2: Go through the top liberal ones and see if you
Speaker 2: even recognize all these people who know them. Pod Save America.
Speaker 2: I already talked about them, The Midas Touch podcast, which
Speaker 2: to me only became you know, relevant in the past year.
Speaker 2: But okay, year and a half.
Speaker 3: Maybe the list.
Speaker 7: I've watched a lot of the YouTube stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, and they're popular because they have a YouTube banker,
Speaker 2: the Young Turks, same kind of thing, except you know,
Speaker 2: those guys have been around a while.
Speaker 3: Okay, why is this happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast. Ever
Speaker 3: heard of that one?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris Hayes for MSNBC.
Speaker 2: Okay, rumble with Michael Moore's.
Speaker 7: The way you know, Mike's always got his fringe from.
Speaker 3: Okay, The Rachel Maddow Show. Okay, that one's obvious. The
Speaker 3: David pac Man Show is number seven.
Speaker 7: Really, he's that high?
Speaker 3: I wow, Yeah, I'm surprised there. That's the guy who
Speaker 3: interviewed Judy Baker and she hung up on him.
Speaker 7: So that's he is the only one I ever heard.
Speaker 7: He is the only person other than on this show
Speaker 7: and other you know people that we know. He is
Speaker 7: the only person that I've heard confront her about evidence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it. Okay, Maya Kulpa, which is a
Speaker 3: Midas Touch network thing. Now I know that.
Speaker 2: That's Michael Cohen's deal. That's Trump's you know lawyer that
Speaker 2: went to jail, right, Okay, he's going to.
Speaker 7: Start at a liberal Oh yeah, okay, they want to
Speaker 7: went to jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, yeah, because he turned against Trump and
Speaker 2: now he's part of the Midas Touch network.
Speaker 3: Okay, the Damage Report with John Lorduria. I don't even
Speaker 3: know this guy. Never heard of him. Stephanie Miller's Happy
Speaker 3: Hour podcast.
Speaker 7: Stephanie Miller, see the one that was on.
Speaker 14: See me.
Speaker 3: See how you got lots of questions over there. But
Speaker 3: you know the list on the other side, don't you.
Speaker 7: I know most of them on that side. I've just
Speaker 7: I've heard him off and on through the years. You know,
Speaker 7: I don't listen particularly to their podcast of that, but
Speaker 7: I'm familiar with most of them on the liberal side too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But here's the funny thing again, the conservative top podcasters
Speaker 2: are beating the hell and you notice.
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan's not on either side of this.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the conservative podcasters, numbers wise, are beating the
Speaker 2: hell out of this other side. I know that because
Speaker 2: I checked out Midas Touched. I was interested because there
Speaker 2: was talks about maybe having them come on the show.
Speaker 2: One of the guys from over there, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to say which one, but I found him interesting because
Speaker 2: he's a lawyer and he makes some interesting legal stuff.
Speaker 3: But I don't think his show's.
Speaker 2: Very popular anyway, but I wanted to talk to him
Speaker 2: about the opposition, right, the Young Turks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You remember Dylan used to be
Speaker 3: I did his show Popcorn Politics on here.
Speaker 2: Dylan Way, he got on with the Young Turks once
Speaker 2: he got on there because he's a handicapped law student
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair and depending you know, people with disabilities,
Speaker 2: so they had him on there.
Speaker 7: But anyway, one of those all the Young Turks at
Speaker 7: one toll, wasn't he.
Speaker 3: I don't know about package.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think he was on there at the very beginning,
Speaker 7: and then he burnst off on his own.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm gonna have to find that out.
Speaker 3: Do you know anything about it?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: Think about the strength though, and the amount of replay
Speaker 2: these guys get out of other outlets. The majority of
Speaker 2: them are on the conservative side. Those are the guys
Speaker 2: that get invited as guests, get pulled into the discussions,
Speaker 2: get onto these different national talk shows.
Speaker 3: They all got books, every one of them, pretty much.
Speaker 3: And like I said, you name me the Pod Save
Speaker 3: America host, go ahead, I'm telling.
Speaker 7: You, and.
Speaker 5: Pod Save America for me on the left is not
Speaker 5: not very good. I just I don't. I don't, gosh, man,
Speaker 5: they're they're they're not good.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 8: I do enjoy T y T sometimes, David pac Man
Speaker 8: a little bit, Stephie and Miller.
Speaker 5: I used to listener.
Speaker 8: I'd catch her she was out of LA This is
Speaker 8: before she had a podcast. She's more of a comedian,
Speaker 8: but she's definitely on the left. I think pac Man
Speaker 8: and the Damage Report, they both came out of T
Speaker 8: y T. I just touch they're good if I want
Speaker 8: to hear a lot of Trump dashing, but there's.
Speaker 5: A point where Okay, it's it's overdone.
Speaker 3: That's what they do, right, that's all they do.
Speaker 2: Everything is, oh, we have we have breaking news. Trump
Speaker 2: lost his mind again. Trump lost his mind again.
Speaker 3: And that's all they do. So if you really truly,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 8: I get tired. I get get tired of that because
Speaker 8: and that's why I like a little more adjectivity. And
Speaker 8: that's why, you know, even though I'm on the left,
Speaker 8: I had my fights with my liberal friends because they're
Speaker 8: getting they get an echo chamber and they can't realize
Speaker 8: how how pathetic the DNC, you.
Speaker 5: Know, leadership is. And that's my biggest problem with the
Speaker 5: Democrats is their leadership. Basically, they have anopo land power.
Speaker 5: They get super delicates.
Speaker 8: They crushed Bernie They you know, they could have let
Speaker 8: AOC get the oh it was the position.
Speaker 5: She was trying to go for him, but the guy
Speaker 5: he just died of cancer. They had three members of
Speaker 5: the Democrat Party that died to cancer.
Speaker 8: Congress people, they would have Trump would have got his
Speaker 8: big little bill, you know, even past out of.
Speaker 5: The House and they were alive. He did symbol over themselves.
Speaker 3: Just to just to stay on point.
Speaker 2: About David pac Man, I can't find any reference to
Speaker 2: him being on the Young Turks.
Speaker 7: There's a connection. I can't remember what it was. Maybe
Speaker 7: he got into it with one of them or something.
Speaker 7: I was thinking he was, well, his show was carried
Speaker 7: on their network and then in that part of ways,
Speaker 7: well not.
Speaker 3: According to their website, has he been carried there? He sorry,
Speaker 3: go ahead, the guy on the damage report.
Speaker 5: The guy on the Damage Report. I believe he was
Speaker 5: on the Young Turks at one time.
Speaker 3: That could be, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think he's a YouTube guy, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to me as though he had he
Speaker 2: was like a Massachusetts like local TV guy, and then
Speaker 2: he got on some Dish network deal.
Speaker 3: And uh and and then just went to UTAE and
Speaker 3: got start his own.
Speaker 7: Day when he got picked up by PACIFICA and a
Speaker 7: couple other networks carried a show.
Speaker 4: For a while.
Speaker 2: But what's interesting about him he's kind of objective about
Speaker 2: a lot of things. I mean, he's clearly a liberal,
Speaker 2: but he examines a bunch of things objectively. And the
Speaker 2: fact that he even did the JFK Show was good.
Speaker 2: But you know, the second he challenged Judy Boy, that
Speaker 2: was the end of that. I find that hilarious. Now
Speaker 2: there's just with and that's where that famous line comes from.
Speaker 2: There's just it's one guy in New York that hates.
Speaker 3: Me, you know, because she thinks I'm from New York.
Speaker 7: I'll say, all right, here's what it was, because here's
Speaker 7: a YouTube warnt Choke Huger and Anna casperin from the
Speaker 7: Young Turks along his life that David Packman show was
Speaker 7: joining of the Young Turks and network. So apparently they
Speaker 7: carried his show on the network is fuller.
Speaker 3: When was that from? Because let's see YouTube kids.
Speaker 7: Let me pull up the transport because it told me.
Speaker 2: But I was just looking at it at the I
Speaker 2: had a thing to, you know, scrape the Young Turks
Speaker 2: website and it says he's.
Speaker 3: Not on there.
Speaker 7: So he gave up his radio show. He wanted to
Speaker 7: concentrate more on his digital stuff and his YouTube platform.
Speaker 7: So this could have been this is from twelve years ago.
Speaker 7: Oh well no, yeah, they were clearing his show on
Speaker 7: their network are so separate, not as part of the
Speaker 7: Young Turks, but just to use you know, the programming.
Speaker 2: See back right around the time I started, there was
Speaker 2: a lot of movement and a lot of like deals
Speaker 2: being made and broken between different people back then.
Speaker 3: Listen, Danny, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Put you on hold because I do see now that
Speaker 2: we have some of the callers back, and I'd like
Speaker 2: to get them on.
Speaker 3: But just hang on with us.
Speaker 5: Thank you for thank you for giving me the opportunity
Speaker 5: to participate.
Speaker 2: Hey, no problem, and I'm happy that we explored, you know,
Speaker 2: conservative versus liberal media. That's pretty funny. Let's see who's
Speaker 2: coming up next. Hang on, Danny and let's see nine minutes,
Speaker 2: eighteen minutes.
Speaker 3: Okay, so.
Speaker 2: We got a wireless caller that I just joined us
Speaker 2: about eighteen minutes ago. So you're live, what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 15: Is there has there been any UFO news lately?
Speaker 3: UFO news?
Speaker 2: I wish I saw a post on x that said
Speaker 2: somebody figured out what those damn drones were. But if
Speaker 2: you were listening to my show a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I think I told everybody what it was.
Speaker 3: But anyway, what you got for UFO News, you got something.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 14: I just keep hearing that they're trying to put another
Speaker 14: disclosure thing together with Congress. But if anything like the
Speaker 14: last one, probably nothing's gonna happen.
Speaker 15: But supposely there's a list of whistleblowers that they're gonna use.
Speaker 14: I'm not sure if that's going to come to fruition either.
Speaker 14: But what did you I missed the show from a
Speaker 14: few weeks ago. Basically, what what did you come up
Speaker 14: with for that whole drone thing that last fall?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Exactly what I thought it was when the when the
Speaker 2: three military bases in Jersey denied that they even saw it.
Speaker 3: Uh it was it was a test. They were running
Speaker 3: a test and they denied it. Uh So that's what
Speaker 3: that was over overhead in Jersey. Really quickly though, we
Speaker 3: will have some UFO disclosure stuff coming up because the
Speaker 3: group that Larry Hancock works with regarding UAP's UFOs whatever,
Speaker 3: they are going to go back to Congress again and
Speaker 3: present them some interesting information about, quite honestly, some of
Speaker 3: these UAPs interacting with nuclear facilities in a particular time
Speaker 3: period and doing some fairly consistent things in the seventies. Yeah. Good,
Speaker 3: What the hell is the great food Unidentified aerial phenomena?
Speaker 3: It's basically the new term for.
Speaker 2: UFO or with all of the UFO, because it may
Speaker 2: not be a flying object, it may be an avery
Speaker 2: a phenomena in the air, which is not necessarily an object.
Speaker 14: And also actually anonymous phenomenon I think is the official
Speaker 14: thing now because that you see uh craft coming you know,
Speaker 14: going into and coming out of the water as well,
Speaker 14: So they threw that in there, and UFO at this
Speaker 14: point is too tainted.
Speaker 1: Of a word.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that was mainly the real reason,
Speaker 2: but the apparent you know, declared reason.
Speaker 3: You know, let's go look and see what the government
Speaker 3: has to say about it, because they're the ones who
Speaker 3: changed it.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, it'll be that same Representative Luna
Speaker 2: that will because last time she was the one who
Speaker 2: ran that committee, you know, when the guy came out
Speaker 2: and said that we have alien technology and all that.
Speaker 3: She's the same one who ran that committee they just
Speaker 3: rush that just did the JFK stuff. So it's the
Speaker 3: same committee, so Representative Luno beyond that again, anyway.
Speaker 7: What does U. A. P.
Speaker 3: Stand?
Speaker 14: There was the same committee that says that they're going
Speaker 14: to disclose Epstein nine to eleven everything else right to well,
Speaker 14: RFK m okay, they.
Speaker 3: Didn't make a statement about that.
Speaker 2: They're following through on the executive order which did say
Speaker 2: RFK and m l K, and so far we've gotten
Speaker 2: some releases of RFK stuff. The only addition, quite honestly,
Speaker 2: is that we have the autopsy photos now which we
Speaker 2: did not previously have in widely available to the public.
Speaker 7: Anyway, how much do they different how much do they
Speaker 7: differ from the sketches that we were forced to look
Speaker 7: at for sixty years on RFK.
Speaker 16: No, I thought you were talking about.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2: They haven't released the JFK autopsy. But the RFK autopsy
Speaker 2: photos are now in the release. You can get them
Speaker 2: from the National Archives anyway. Unidentified aerial phenomena, it says,
Speaker 2: is according to well, according to Miriam Webster. And where's
Speaker 2: the government entry on this? I'm looking for it NASA.
Speaker 2: According to NASA. I guess that's close enough as far
Speaker 2: as you know. Looking at the government's explanation.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, look at this.
Speaker 2: See now, NASA describes it as unidentified anomalous phenomena.
Speaker 3: Anonymally, yeah, anomal They in.
Speaker 2: Right, So the thing is anomalous phenomena. But Miriam Webster
Speaker 2: is still calling it aerial. So you want the government's
Speaker 2: definition or you want the Webster definition.
Speaker 3: There you go, gigging got.
Speaker 15: Both the way of the vaccine definition.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 7: There you go, boy saying DPT I justs you can
Speaker 7: do that.
Speaker 2: But again, because Larry is submitting that, you know, academic
Speaker 2: paper with a whole bunch of very serious people who
Speaker 2: studied a bunch of incidents that have been declassified all
Speaker 2: the way up to nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 3: Because more current.
Speaker 2: Stuff is not all declassified. There's actually a government agency
Speaker 2: that collects this stuff.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing with it, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to get an update from Larry in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks about the most recent findings from this committee
Speaker 2: that he is part of.
Speaker 3: So I'm a little embarrassed.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of the of the academic
Speaker 2: group that Larry is part of because we meant to
Speaker 2: get to it a few weeks ago, and then they
Speaker 2: started holding.
Speaker 3: These JFK hearings, so I had to go back over
Speaker 3: JFKs with Larry.
Speaker 2: Which also published on the front page of o'ceelly dot
Speaker 2: com this week, is an article from Larry Hancock regarding
Speaker 2: JFK recently classifications and mister Underhill.
Speaker 3: So that's written by Larry. I added a.
Speaker 2: Few things in there, mainly just a little bit addressing,
Speaker 2: but all of the text is Larry's text.
Speaker 3: I didn't write any of that. I gave you a
Speaker 3: couple of references at the bottom and a few pictures
Speaker 3: is what I did.
Speaker 2: Maybe put some hot links in there, but the thing
Speaker 2: is that that's Larry's writing entirely. Just once you know that,
Speaker 2: and it's on the front page on o'celli dot com
Speaker 2: as part of the weekly Reader thing, which hasn't been
Speaker 2: publishing weekly because people don't get me stuff provisions quickly.
Speaker 3: But when they do, we'll have publications.
Speaker 2: And I've got an article coming up from Alex Harris
Speaker 2: and one from Carla Edna, so we'll see what's coming
Speaker 2: up on o'celly dot com. And by the way, I'm
Speaker 2: still taking submissions. If you have a written piece you
Speaker 2: want to submit, more than happy to. There will be
Speaker 2: some request for revision maybe, but I'm not asking you
Speaker 2: to change your views or anything else. Just you know
Speaker 2: a little bit of a grammar check stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It is according to the author's specifications otherwise, and I
Speaker 2: may add visual images or audio clips if I think
Speaker 2: they're relevant, but other than that, I'm publishing people as
Speaker 2: they're writing things, so it's just been a slow process.
Speaker 2: You can mail it to info at o'helly dot com
Speaker 2: and just let me know that it's for the Weekly Reader,
Speaker 2: and all submissions are considered. I've rejected over a dozen
Speaker 2: pieces though that I thought were pointless.
Speaker 3: We're putting out.
Speaker 2: Stuff there that is not just being repeated and common
Speaker 2: and crap all over the internet that eighty five other
Speaker 2: people are already saying. I'm looking for rarefied information, rarefied studies,
Speaker 2: rarefied opinions, things that you're not getting every.
Speaker 3: Single other place. The unusual. We go to the Weekly Reader.
Speaker 2: On ocelly dot com info at ocelly dot com. You
Speaker 2: can email your pieces there and I'd be more than
Speaker 2: happy to get more material anyway. But yeah, just but
Speaker 2: that wasn't UAPs this week. It was JFK stuff. But
Speaker 2: I'm going to go look that up and find out
Speaker 2: about the UAP study with Larry Hancock, because he's part
Speaker 2: of a pretty big group of academics and historians doing
Speaker 2: some work on this, like why hasn't the government looked
Speaker 2: into certain things, et cetera.
Speaker 14: You know, how has anyone on the panel have actually
Speaker 14: seen something weird in the sky?
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I sure have.
Speaker 2: You want to talk to UFOs, you know what, I'll
Speaker 2: turn it over to BP after I just tell you
Speaker 2: one thing. I had to look it up to make
Speaker 2: sure about it. It is the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies.
Speaker 2: The s see you and UH if you go to
Speaker 2: UH explore SCU dot org. And as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Larry Hancock's UH bio page from the
Speaker 2: website from the study group. I'm gonna put that in
Speaker 2: the live chatroom at Ochelli dot com and I'll include
Speaker 2: it in.
Speaker 3: The show notes as well. B Pete, have you ever
Speaker 3: seen a U A p UFO, whatever the hell you
Speaker 3: want to call it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yeah. You'll see the stuff and you think, okay,
Speaker 7: maybe it's a super star, maybe it's this. Okay, wait
Speaker 7: a minute, that one didn't go out there? It comes again.
Speaker 7: We'll see part of this, especially of the mountains when
Speaker 7: you don't have a lot of uh right police and
Speaker 7: you can see better, you know, clearer skies of that
Speaker 7: and see all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, uh, you want a specific story, Chris, or
Speaker 2: you want to uh or you want to tell us
Speaker 2: about yours.
Speaker 15: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I thought he was let me go check. Maybe no
Speaker 3: I muted myself.
Speaker 14: Sorry, sorry, Oh no, Bob, No about in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 14: about a year after the whole Phoenix Lights debacle, in
Speaker 14: this town of Sharon, Massachusetts, which is, you know, a
Speaker 14: little outside of Boston, about thirty miles south of Boston.
Speaker 15: I saw that the I guess you'd call it the classic.
Speaker 14: Now, the black Triangle, like hovering over.
Speaker 15: A farm in a field in March of ninety eight
Speaker 15: and just kind of hovered silently, had like they had.
Speaker 14: All kinds of multicolored lights that's like on the outside
Speaker 14: of the bottom of it. That's how we could tell
Speaker 14: it was triangular in shape and just real slow and silent,
Speaker 14: and we just pulled over the side of the road
Speaker 14: and just watched it for probably like five minutes, felt
Speaker 14: like it was half an hour, But then it started
Speaker 14: moving towards the road and we got the hell out there,
Speaker 14: and we were coming home from target shooting, and yeah,
Speaker 14: it was on the all the news later that night,
Speaker 14: like Fox twenty five in Boston, and Fox twenty five's
Speaker 14: website doesn't go back that far now, I noticed, so
Speaker 14: I was never able to find any of the archives.
Speaker 16: Of that incident.
Speaker 14: But that just impacted like my fascination with the UFOs
Speaker 14: even more because my mother had mentioned back in the
Speaker 14: nineteen sixty four sixty five in Needham, Massachusetts, her whole.
Speaker 15: Family, including my grandfather, my uncle, my aunt, they all saw.
Speaker 14: The classic Saucer type craft that was being seen back then,
Speaker 14: and it was almost like the triangle thing where it
Speaker 14: had like lights in the bottom of it.
Speaker 15: It was in the middle of the day.
Speaker 14: It just kind of hovered above a tree, and all
Speaker 14: the neighbors were outside too, they saw it too, And
Speaker 14: then that was on the local news like Channel five
Speaker 14: in Boston and stuff. But you can't get those archives
Speaker 14: because that's even older.
Speaker 7: Than my ninety eight one.
Speaker 14: So that's my two experiences. And then watching a fire
Speaker 14: and Fire in the Sky in nineteen ninety three in
Speaker 14: the movie Theater that you know, all those incidents put
Speaker 14: together just had my crystallized, my fascination and the whole thing.
Speaker 15: So but yeah, Chuck, what about you.
Speaker 2: I had two incidents that I would mention off the
Speaker 2: top of my head, and one of them I've had
Speaker 2: people retroactively tell me might have been some sort of
Speaker 2: alien visitation. But when I was like three years old,
Speaker 2: I thought I was sleeping and then I was suddenly awake.
Speaker 3: And I started to float.
Speaker 2: Okay, physically, I floated up off my bed and I
Speaker 2: was up near the ceiling and on my way out
Speaker 2: the house, I thought, until I resisted it and got
Speaker 2: dropped from the ceiling to the floor in the apartment there.
Speaker 3: And people told me that that seems like, you know,
Speaker 3: an interdimensional being was trying to drag you somewhere.
Speaker 2: Now I don't necessarily buy that, but it is one
Speaker 2: of the weirdest things that I've never forgotten my entire life. However,
Speaker 2: I have seen an object in the sky that I
Speaker 2: cannot explain, and it was in Tom's River, New Jersey,
Speaker 2: which again is not too far from you know, Lakehurst
Speaker 2: and Fort Dix and McGuire Air Force Base. That that
Speaker 2: those three, you know, interesting military bases in South Jersey.
Speaker 2: In fact, Lakehurst is uh where one of Oswald's buddies
Speaker 2: had been stationed off and on occasionally.
Speaker 3: Was his name, damn.
Speaker 2: The guy spoke Spanish with Oswald. It was one of
Speaker 2: the weirdest things. And he actually ended up in that
Speaker 2: Bougliosi trial at one point when he was living in Arkansas.
Speaker 3: Damn it.
Speaker 2: I can't remember his name anyway, But Lakers Naval Airbase
Speaker 2: is also the place where the Hindenburg went down. Anyhow,
Speaker 2: I've heard for years about odd aerial phenomena in that area,
Speaker 2: and I used to hear about it when I.
Speaker 3: Was a kid. Never saw it.
Speaker 2: But one night I'm on the front lawn of a
Speaker 2: friend's house who's like on he's like in Tom's River,
Speaker 2: but there's a bay, and some of these people actually
Speaker 2: have little boats, and the bay can go out into
Speaker 2: the river and then into the ocean somehow if you
Speaker 2: know how to navigate. But Tom's River it's not exactly
Speaker 2: like you know, the shore town, but it's not far.
Speaker 3: From the shore anyway.
Speaker 2: So we're in this area where there's sort of like
Speaker 2: this little bay or whatever, and like I said, boats
Speaker 2: and stuff around, and I look up and I see
Speaker 2: something that's kind of shape, Like do you ever see
Speaker 2: those like little weights that like they.
Speaker 3: Made for women for a little bit. They're like five
Speaker 3: pound weights and they have like.
Speaker 2: Two things on the end and then they they don't go,
Speaker 2: you know, extreme to like dumbbells exactly.
Speaker 3: They're like mini dumbbells. They're like five pounds apiece.
Speaker 15: The ones that look like kind of they're almost like rubber.
Speaker 3: They look like that right, but they're actually like a
Speaker 3: hard plastic and they have some weight to them.
Speaker 2: This thing was a similar shape to that, almost like
Speaker 2: an hourglass, and it was lit up in a strange
Speaker 2: way that generally, even if I look up at a
Speaker 2: street light, I'm one of these guys who see streaks
Speaker 2: coming off of the lights. I have one of those
Speaker 2: night vision issues. It's one of many issues I have
Speaker 2: with light. This thing didn't project the streaks like a
Speaker 2: light bulb does, like an airplane does, like a helicopter does.
Speaker 2: When I see a light, it creates a blurring effect
Speaker 2: where little spikes come off of a light. That's how
Speaker 2: my vision interprets things.
Speaker 3: This thing didn't do that. It also was making no noise,
Speaker 3: but I could see that it was there.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to estimate the distance up in
Speaker 2: the air it was, but I would say it was
Speaker 2: no higher up than like what a hot air balloon
Speaker 2: would be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like if you've ever been to one of
Speaker 3: those places where they have like a hot air balloon,
Speaker 3: they tie it to a rope and they let it up.
Speaker 2: I don't know, one hundred two hundred feet in the
Speaker 2: air or whatever. This thing was there about that high
Speaker 2: up and had to be the size of.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like a.
Speaker 2: Short school bus. That's the best size estimation I could
Speaker 2: give you. And it was shaped like that weight, like
Speaker 2: I said, right, and making no noise and moving very slowly,
Speaker 2: but like almost as if it was rotating.
Speaker 11: But it was.
Speaker 3: As if it was rotating on a pole, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't going anywhore triangle too.
Speaker 15: It went really slow, like over the field, hovered like
Speaker 15: real slowly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was spinning, but it was spinning real
Speaker 2: slow and like I said, silently, and it on different accesses,
Speaker 2: but you could tell there was a fixed point that
Speaker 2: it was stopped at, like in the center, and it
Speaker 2: would spin around a bit slowly in a couple different directions. Now,
Speaker 2: I grabbed a polaroid camera and I took a shot
Speaker 2: of this with my polaroid.
Speaker 3: I tried to.
Speaker 2: Squeeze off like two of them, but it was, you know,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety I don't know, ninety seven ninety eight, So
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I got a polaroid camera. It's
Speaker 2: an old camera, but I popped off a couple of shots.
Speaker 2: You know, back then it was even hard to find
Speaker 2: the polaroid film. I popped off a couple of shots
Speaker 2: of this thing, and after I took two or three,
Speaker 2: then it spun real quick stopped and pretty much disappeared
Speaker 2: out of sight without even leaving a streak. Like I
Speaker 2: could tell which direction it went in, but it was gone,
Speaker 2: and it went in the direction of the ocean.
Speaker 3: It went east. That's all I know about it now.
Speaker 2: I took a look at the polaroids and tried to
Speaker 2: show them to my friend and he's like, well, it
Speaker 2: looks like you got like, you know, a smear of
Speaker 2: light here, and that's kind of what it looked like.
Speaker 2: It looked like somebody had like like as if the
Speaker 2: light was sort of all mixed up together and it
Speaker 2: was almost in a ball. Now that's not what it
Speaker 2: looked like with my eyes, but that's what the camera
Speaker 2: made it look like. And both shots were pretty similar.
Speaker 2: And then I think the third third shot was empty
Speaker 2: sky because, like I said, this thing very suddenly because
Speaker 2: I didn't have like a digital viewer on that. It
Speaker 2: was like a plane, you know, square, you put things
Speaker 2: in the square, you take a picture. That's about what
Speaker 2: you should capture polaroid, and it was a colored polaroid thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I think when I bought the film, they
Speaker 2: were like a dollar or two each picture was how
Speaker 2: much it costs you, and you got like ten or
Speaker 2: something in one pack of polaroid film. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: wasted three pictures on this thing and basically got all
Speaker 2: almost the ball of light for two pictures and nothing
Speaker 2: in the third picture but a clear sky. And oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, it was a pretty clear sky. There
Speaker 2: was like a couple of clouds, but like there was
Speaker 2: like say, two clouds in the sky that were semi
Speaker 2: illuminated somehow, but they were further away from this thing,
Speaker 2: and the rest of the sky was clear, so you
Speaker 2: could see stars and stuff, and you could see that.
Speaker 2: I took pictures in the same spot of the sky
Speaker 2: because of where the stars and the couple of clouds were.
Speaker 2: But this thing was there, then it wasn't there, and
Speaker 2: it didn't make any noise, although I felt the vibration
Speaker 2: when it left. Now, I don't know how to explain
Speaker 2: that thing. I don't know if it's an experimental plane
Speaker 2: and I just couldn't.
Speaker 3: See it correctly.
Speaker 2: I don't know all I know, and who knows. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's just the light source off of some aerial vehicle.
Speaker 2: But it was the strangest thing I ever saw, and
Speaker 2: I counted as my only UFO sighting.
Speaker 17: Really, did you, I know it was the early days
Speaker 17: of the internet, but did you try to look up
Speaker 17: like mufon or anything like that to see if anyone
Speaker 17: else saw something somewhere around that time?
Speaker 2: Uh? I, well, no, I mailed one of my polaroids
Speaker 2: two mofon because I knew about that because of the
Speaker 2: JFK literature. If if you were in like certain there
Speaker 2: were like little conspiracy zines around back then, So moufon
Speaker 2: was in the same little conspiracy zine as some JFK
Speaker 2: stuff was.
Speaker 3: So I literally mailed them one of my polaroids.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I never heard back from it, but I still
Speaker 2: have one that's yet again another thing that's sitting in
Speaker 2: storage in h in Jersey, is I know I got
Speaker 2: that polaroid?
Speaker 18: Wow?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Well ex.
Speaker 2: Wife didn't destroy that, thankfully, she got she got a
Speaker 2: hold of the polaroids I had of some ex girlfriends,
Speaker 2: but she didn't get hold of that pole. Which is
Speaker 2: exactly why I owned a polaroid camera, because if I
Speaker 2: could get a girlfriend to give me a topless picture,
Speaker 2: I would definitely keep it, and they had to guarantee
Speaker 2: that there was no.
Speaker 3: Copies because it was a polaroid anyway, pre phone days.
Speaker 3: Now everybody sticks their phone in their pants.
Speaker 2: Sends dick pics to each other. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: By the way, I got to look at the clock. Now,
Speaker 2: I told this story, and I probably kept somebody. I
Speaker 2: probably kept Jimmy James on hold for too long.
Speaker 3: He might have hung up right now. No, I told
Speaker 3: you the story. Let me let me just switch over
Speaker 3: to him though, real fast and see, because Jimmy's been
Speaker 3: hanging on a while and we still got Danny on
Speaker 3: the line. Jimmy, I got a little bit of time left.
Speaker 3: What's on your mind this week? Oh maybe there is? Okay,
Speaker 3: I thought, maybe I play it? Say brother, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 7: Much.
Speaker 16: Just listening to the show.
Speaker 15: How far are we?
Speaker 5: How far are you from Hudson.
Speaker 3: Valley, Chuck, Hudson Valley? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Look at a map between Tom's River and Hudson Valley.
Speaker 2: Maybe I could pull that up real fast.
Speaker 3: And we could look Hudson Valley and Jay two Tom's River.
Speaker 3: Funny thing.
Speaker 2: One of the guys who was like a big time sheriff,
Speaker 2: chief of police guy. Back then, he was the chief
Speaker 2: of police and Tom's River, and he was one of
Speaker 2: the guys out there making statements about, no, we don't
Speaker 2: see anything up in the sky, but we're getting phone
Speaker 2: calls from all over the state. Master Nardi was his name,
Speaker 2: and the only reason why I'll never forget his name
Speaker 2: is because buddy of mine and myself had information on
Speaker 2: him that he would not have liked to have gotten
Speaker 2: out back then. But anyway, I never had to use it,
Speaker 2: although I think my friend got out of a DUI
Speaker 2: situation once.
Speaker 3: Okay, so what I see is Hudson Valley.
Speaker 2: Their location is like Connecticut for Hudson Valley is what
Speaker 2: they're showing me on this map when I asked to
Speaker 2: go from Tom's River to Hudson Valley.
Speaker 3: Something doesn't make sense there though, Yeah, new York.
Speaker 16: Yeah, New York. Cutson Valley, New York.
Speaker 3: It looks like it's in Connecticut, though you know what
Speaker 3: it's because it's a weird map. Let me see.
Speaker 2: That's why you got to not trust the AI that
Speaker 2: brings up the first freaking map on Google.
Speaker 3: Now you know where is Hudson Valley? BF. You want
Speaker 3: to give a specific about a UFO story though, I
Speaker 3: mean real quick while I'm doing this.
Speaker 7: Well, we used to go put the mountains and we
Speaker 7: would camp and it was on private property, so you know,
Speaker 7: we didn't have to worry about a bunch of people
Speaker 7: being out there. And I've seen some stuff flying around
Speaker 7: that really can't be explained by any It didn't exhibit
Speaker 7: anything of any flying vessel that I've seen to date.
Speaker 7: Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: Did you see stuff when you were in the military, Well, no,
Speaker 3: I didn't see much.
Speaker 7: Let's spend my whole time over in Germany. So you know,
Speaker 7: Germans over there the case shoot everything out of the sky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've heard crazy stories about weird low hovering
Speaker 2: stuff by.
Speaker 3: What is that big base over there?
Speaker 7: You know? Now in Germany we have one big we
Speaker 7: have bike maneuvers in Germany. When you go to the gunnery,
Speaker 7: you see there are a few you know, you have
Speaker 7: quiet hours over there, and you have restrictions on noise
Speaker 7: and things like that, and things happening on Sundays, you know,
Speaker 7: no work. But there was one there was one range
Speaker 7: that we would go to that you could fire twenty
Speaker 7: four to seven. They always cut off on Sunday, but
Speaker 7: they could have night maneuvers out there, so you'd be
Speaker 7: out there watching a lot of times, you go join
Speaker 7: the guys that are pulling guard duty down on the
Speaker 7: motor pool parked down the woods somewhere, and you go
Speaker 7: sit up on top of one of the tracks which
Speaker 7: lamp chairs, and watch the coverers and the helicopters get
Speaker 7: into it.
Speaker 3: But I've heard lots of sataries about things.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had seen things off in the distance watching
Speaker 7: what was going on, but it couldn't be identified as
Speaker 7: any kind of military aircraft. And the way the lights were,
Speaker 7: how fast it moved making maneuvers, you know, ninety degree
Speaker 7: left hand turns instantaneously, everythings like that.
Speaker 2: You know, what what year are we talking about that
Speaker 2: you were there, because, by the way, the airbase on
Speaker 2: a was Romstein early eighties Okay, so yeah, so aerial
Speaker 2: stuff that would have been in civilian hands would have
Speaker 2: been limited back then. Real quick, just let you know, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: Hudson Valley, what you're looking for is that area that's
Speaker 2: up by Troy in upstate New York.
Speaker 3: That's what you're looking for, right, Albany and Troy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now, and the reason I brought it up because
Speaker 6: in the eighties and nineties that was the biggest hot
Speaker 6: spot per UFOs.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, see now where I was in Jersey, that's a
Speaker 2: ways a way. I'm not sure how many miles away
Speaker 2: it is, but you know.
Speaker 3: It's not right by.
Speaker 6: Well, in my mind I was thinking that it would
Speaker 6: either have to be southeast or west self flared between
Speaker 6: two and four hundred miles, because New York's.
Speaker 16: A big damn state. But nonetheless I thought some of.
Speaker 6: It might have rubbed off where you were as far
Speaker 6: as the sightings in the eighties went.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's see Hudson Valley, New York to Toms River,
Speaker 3: New Jersey. How many miles? I'm just gonna ask Google
Speaker 3: to tell me and see if they tell I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, New Jersey distance. Here we go, What have
Speaker 3: we got for distance? Hudson Valley too, it is one
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two miles.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, if we take the Parkway straight up, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's actually not so bad. There's parts of New York
Speaker 2: that are way way further away. People don't realize it,
Speaker 2: Like the state is way different than you know, Manhattan,
Speaker 2: which is right next to Jersey, but one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty two miles. I'm one hundred and sixty two miles
Speaker 2: south of Hudson Valley at the time of my sighting.
Speaker 3: So how's that.
Speaker 6: Well, see, that's actually a lot close to than I thought.
Speaker 15: So that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they even tell me how to get there,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at and I'm going, yeah, with the
Speaker 2: parkway to probably get there quicker actually than you know,
Speaker 2: the amount of time they're telling me it would take.
Speaker 2: But you got to go up there and Guarden State
Speaker 2: Parkway and then I eighty seven and boom. It's almost
Speaker 2: a straight run to get into the Hudson Valley real fast.
Speaker 2: It's not bad because you know North Jersey Way. North
Speaker 2: Jersey is connected up there to New York and Connecticut.
Speaker 5: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Got the what is it the tap and Z Bridge
Speaker 2: up there, I think. Anyhow, So, Jimmy, you got any
Speaker 2: any UFOs though? You want to tell me about one
Speaker 2: real quick before we run out of time.
Speaker 6: Well, I've told my two UFO incidences, both of which
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure were dronesh drones.
Speaker 2: Hey, I got a question for you, since it is
Speaker 2: local to you, I know there's been some news lately.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Trump pardoning the alleged Whitmer kidnappers, which.
Speaker 3: You know at the time, I even said, you know,
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but I gotta agree with Trump.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a BS situation where you got more
Speaker 2: FBI agents than you do actual what they call themselves,
Speaker 2: the Wolverine Militia or whatever. You know, you got six
Speaker 2: FBI agents and six guys from there, and somehow they
Speaker 2: provoked a conversation.
Speaker 3: What a shock? What do you think about that?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 6: I seen it coming three four years ago. I mentioned
Speaker 6: that's going to happen on this program. I also said
Speaker 6: the same thing about the January sixth farce.
Speaker 16: And let me tell you something. Way do you hear
Speaker 16: of the exposures this week coming up? Because damn bon
Speaker 16: Gino whom you mentioned, No, he's.
Speaker 6: Not doing a podcast right now. Right now, he's the
Speaker 6: deputy director of the FBI, and he found Comy's little
Speaker 6: whack in closet. Oh, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 6: of exposures this week.
Speaker 16: That's why Colly's out on his.
Speaker 6: Little state prop uh subsidized stations doing little hissy fits
Speaker 6: because he knows the shit's.
Speaker 16: About to hit the fan. I guess that's all they.
Speaker 3: Get to say.
Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, give me one last thing. What about
Speaker 2: the video of what's his name? Epstein hanging himself? Now,
Speaker 2: Bongino says.
Speaker 3: He has it.
Speaker 6: Well, now if you hear, listen to what the guy says,
Speaker 6: they have video of basically the hallway of who came
Speaker 6: and went?
Speaker 3: Okay, I read a statement. I read a statement where
Speaker 3: it said that he had seen you know.
Speaker 16: Wow, So unless the invisible man one alone, well, I
Speaker 16: mean it's like.
Speaker 6: We've been saying the whole time. Of course, he killed himself.
Speaker 16: The thing is is he was allowed to.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was given an extra blank if so, they.
Speaker 6: Turned off the security camels. Of course he killed himself
Speaker 6: in the opportunity.
Speaker 3: No, No, I think I think he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think he finally figured out he was
Speaker 2: trapped and said I ain't going through this, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he went out.
Speaker 3: But I'm not very popular for saying that, So watch yourself,
Speaker 3: you know. Most the thing that.
Speaker 7: Don Gino said, though, was that he has seen everything
Speaker 7: in the file and that there's no DNA, there's no
Speaker 7: evidence pointing to anybody, and they've got a video that
Speaker 7: says it shows everybody who came and went. So if
Speaker 7: you think I'm going to put my faith in a video,
Speaker 7: that's the only thing left in the file that doesn't
Speaker 7: show anything. I mean, what's the source of the video?
Speaker 7: They know it was a woe that was doctor and
Speaker 7: had a section cut out. Have they forensically looked at
Speaker 7: the video? I mean, did that?
Speaker 18: Here?
Speaker 7: Bonino set this all. We're gonna get to the bottom
Speaker 7: of this and blah blah blah, blah blah blah for
Speaker 7: what how many years? He said, Yeah, there's no way
Speaker 7: Epstein killed himself in law. Just like I said last week,
Speaker 7: nothing's gonna come of it. Nothing is going to come out.
Speaker 2: No, probably not from the New York Post story because
Speaker 2: this I remember reading, along with other stuff FBI will
Speaker 2: soon release. Let's just make sure that we got everything straight.
Speaker 2: Here was soon released video that proves Jeffrey Epstein was
Speaker 2: not murdered. Clear as day is the quote, let's see
Speaker 2: FBI Deputy Director don Dan Bonagino. Bongino promised Thursday to
Speaker 2: release new video that finally debunks conspiracy theories that sex
Speaker 2: predator Jeffrey Epstein could have been murdered. Insistent quote no
Speaker 2: one was there but him.
Speaker 3: End quote.
Speaker 2: At the time of his jail cells suicide quote, there's
Speaker 2: a video, clear as.
Speaker 3: Day end quote.
Speaker 2: Gino told Fox and Friends. He's the only person in there,
Speaker 2: the only person coming out.
Speaker 3: You can see it. There is video. And when you
Speaker 3: look at the video and we will release it, we're
Speaker 3: working on cleaning.
Speaker 2: It up to make sure you have an enhanced and
Speaker 2: we will give the original sell. You don't think there
Speaker 2: are any shenanigans. You will see no one in there
Speaker 2: but him.
Speaker 3: There's just nobody there. Bona Gino said.
Speaker 7: If they've gotten see because we got told for years
Speaker 7: there was absolutely no video. Where are the cameras work?
Speaker 7: So now we've got one that shows only Epstein in
Speaker 7: the cell. Well, if it shows only Epstein in the cell,
Speaker 7: then they should show him killing himself. But it doesn't.
Speaker 7: They'll say that no one came the win. Well, how
Speaker 7: do we know that? We take says up three or
Speaker 7: five years after the thing where we were followed, there
Speaker 7: was absolutely no video.
Speaker 2: But Jimmy James is right about quoting this I quote.
Speaker 2: I say to people of the time, if you have
Speaker 2: a tip, let us know.
Speaker 3: But there is no DNA, there is no audio, there
Speaker 3: was no fingerprints, there is no suspects, there's no accomplices,
Speaker 3: there's no tips, there is nothing. If you do have it,
Speaker 3: I'm happy to see it.
Speaker 2: Epstein's death was ruled a suicide at the time, but
Speaker 2: the pedophile financiers abrupt demise has long been dogged by
Speaker 2: rampant series. Among them is that the billionaire who was
Speaker 2: awaiting trial on child sex trafficking charges could have been
Speaker 2: killed by some of the rich and famous who engaged
Speaker 2: with him or were privy to his crimes over the years.
Speaker 7: Ask one question, sure, okay, And that is he said
Speaker 7: in that quote from the post, he was the other
Speaker 7: one in there. Yeah, he was the only one coming
Speaker 7: and the other one going m hm, the other one leaving. Well,
Speaker 7: And that video is not at the time that he
Speaker 7: committed suicide. If it shows Epstein leaving, Epstein was dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why did he leave?
Speaker 2: But if all they show is the you know, the
Speaker 2: medics going into a stretcher and taking his ass out,
Speaker 2: and then we know it's an empty cell after that,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, No, I don't know.
Speaker 7: What I'm saying is is that if the video, if
Speaker 7: you told there was none existing. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: we've got one that's going to show us clearly that
Speaker 7: Epstein is the only person in that room. And I
Speaker 7: guarantee you it's not going to show you the room.
Speaker 7: They're talking the hallway outdoors. The tape could have come
Speaker 7: from any time, anywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, but see, here's the thing about it, right, It's
Speaker 2: weird to me that it took this long to get
Speaker 2: this out, because you would have thought that anybody would have.
Speaker 3: Been happy to release this to shut down the discussion.
Speaker 3: But for some reason it was useful to people to
Speaker 3: have that discussion. I guess, huh.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just don't put any faith in it. I think
Speaker 7: Bontino got in there, he got handed his marching orders,
Speaker 7: and now he's out of here. They're not going to
Speaker 7: find anything about Epstein. They're not going to find out
Speaker 7: who's cocaine. It was, none of it. Everything that they
Speaker 7: promised to you is either going to come up January sixth,
Speaker 7: white bombers were Now they're going to release all that.
Speaker 7: You can't tell me that at all this time they
Speaker 7: don't know, or Bongino puts out of a roar, we're
Speaker 7: close to finding out who it was. Okay, I'll believe
Speaker 7: it when I see it.
Speaker 2: You know what's great about this though, is that no
Speaker 2: matter what, it's a win win through the administration, because
Speaker 2: they can either say that, you know, like if it
Speaker 2: blows up and somebody says, oh, this is faked or
Speaker 2: somebody says the videos doctored or whatever else, they can
Speaker 2: pin it back on Bongino. And he's a famous guy.
Speaker 2: But it's not like he was going to be running
Speaker 2: the rest of his career through the FBI. That wasn't
Speaker 2: generally his career plans up until last year. So you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he'd be the perfect guy to put
Speaker 2: up front and either take the flat or take the credit.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeahs An Patsy.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know, Jimmy. I guess
Speaker 3: we're gonna see when we see the video, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't really know why people still talk
Speaker 6: about Epstein.
Speaker 16: Really, I don't really know what the hell it is.
Speaker 5: You're looking for.
Speaker 16: It's pretty much all been exposed.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, everything except the client list. Anyways, it is
Speaker 2: time for the age of transition.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait, wait.
Speaker 3: Wait, see that's the thing.
Speaker 16: You're assuming what client was.
Speaker 6: Just because he's a pervert and likes the little girls.
Speaker 6: You think he's running some kind of whoorhouse. Come on,
Speaker 6: it's just rich and he has decided to indulge himself,
Speaker 6: just like every other Democrat.
Speaker 2: All right, But he had client lists for various reasons,
Speaker 2: so there's no reason not to assume that other meetings
Speaker 2: and appointments and everything else could have been you know, arranged. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we're over time, so I'm gonna get us going and
Speaker 2: get on to the Age of Transitions with Aaron Franz,
Speaker 2: which will be live on this network.
Speaker 3: Guess what coming up now? So be Pete, go ahead
Speaker 3: and get in your final word for the week, and
Speaker 3: we'll get the phones opened and everything else for Aaron.
Speaker 7: We're all all it's been another great week and looking
Speaker 7: forward to do it again next week. Appreciate everybody calling in,
Speaker 7: Danny and Chrison to James, and we'll do it again
Speaker 7: next Fatty.
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