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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Crime Pace. But Bodany

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doesn't podcast nice. Have you ever noticed how messy plants are?

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They're so messy. I don't like it when it's messy.

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I don't like it when it's messy. Like it when

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it's clean. I like, I mean to make it clean,

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you got to go. You gotta make it clean. To

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make it clean, what you gotta do is you got

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to put concrete everywhere. We're gonna put concrete and asphalt

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everywhere because it's so messy. Otherwise, the plants are so messy,

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they're so many. Oh god, day, can you tell South

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Texas has been wearing on me? Can you tell? Oh god, ah,

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I got to see I finally got to see Caparis

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in Cana, now Quadrilla in Cana. Because Caparis is an

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old world genus. Imagine that the Atlantic, the Atlantic Ocean

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is a pretty formidable barrier to uh. It's a pretty

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formidable uh you know, uh component to genetic isolation, and

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in two different genera. The related Quadrilla and Caparis are

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of course renated related, but uh, you know it's they're

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they're a little bit more distantly apart than uh formerly thought.

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But This is a member of the Kaper family, the caparece,

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which looking at the flowers, I kind of had the

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immediate feeling because I wasn't familiar with this kind of

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look at look at the flowers, I had the immediate feeling.

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This looks like it's related to mustards, like it's in

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the order of brass Akaylee's of the of the family

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Brassic casey Oh, I just cut down at tep owai Hey,

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my favorite tree in stuff texts. I got the fucking

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sawdust of my nose. Still my favorite tree in South Texas.

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You can get them eight inch diameter breast height in

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two years easy. They are a great fucking tree, great

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shade tree. No no thorns. I like the thorns, but

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you know a lot of members of the square community

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don't want the thorns on them on, you know, so

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I miskeats get so much hatred. But I just cut

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a tape wayey down because it was growing too close

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to these power lines. So I fucking you know, I'll

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just probably just prune it, keep it prune, and just

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use these sticks for to harvest wood like stay, you know,

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because when it sends up new suckers, you can cut

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the steaks when they're like the diameter of a thumb,

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and or cut the shoots and use the mistakes. Anyway,

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I got the but I got the I got the

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sawdust in my nose. It's bothered me. I'm just sitting

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out there in a Dego tea. We just came through

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a freeze. I'm out there standing in a Dego tea.

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Just get showered and saw dust holding the polse up

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about me? Got anyway? I hope you're not eating. I'm sorry.

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If you are, you know what, you gotta fucking be fine,

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all right, princess. It's a non gender specific princess. So anyway,

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I finally got to see Caparis in Canaan al Quadrilla

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and cana which you know, I saw people, I saw

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people posting about. I've known about for a while. It

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grows near Brownsville, which is, you know, further east than

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I am and Brownsville and Harlingen down here in the

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Rio Grand Valley, right here in the Mexican border. We

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could smell the burning plastic from Mexico's garbage fires occasionally,

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and by occasionally, I mean every weeknight around nine pm.

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They always burn the plastic at night I don't know why,

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unless it's some sketchy factory on this side of the border.

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It's certainly whatever it is, it doesn't sound, it doesn't

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smell nice. It smells toxic, you know, like sustained decades

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of that, you definitely get cancer and the fucking you know. Okay, anyway,

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we're getting distracted here. Brownsville and Harlingin have a more

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mediated climate, being that they're closer to a large body

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of water, which helps mediate the climate, so it doesn't

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get as hot nor as cold during the very rare

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freeze events we have here, and it's more humid, so

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there's members of the flora down here that are not

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so tolerant of drying out. That kind of taper off

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as you head west towards Laredo Rio, Grand City, Laredo,

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Eagle Pass del Rio, you know, these wonderful border towns

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with an abundance of pawn shops and paid a loan

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places and you know, sleez bag motels. So I don't

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mean to distract the same, Sorry, but I've finally seen

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this plan and I was looking for it. There's a

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housing there's like all these mc mansions, like literally McMansions,

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they're pretty gaudy houses. I don't know why. It's a

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very weird style they got down here and building these houses.

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You couldn't probably pay me to live in one. I

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would get fucking depressed unless I had to cover the

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whole thing in plants, but cover the whole you know,

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outdoors and and like create a recreate a thorn forest.

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But the east their own, you know, they've got there's

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the stucco, They've got these really blots of black and

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gray air and b Airbnb colors, safe colors. Fucking amn,

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it's a it's a flavor. It's again, it goes against

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everything I've lived in Hispanic Carrious my whole life, well

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for most of the large personema of my life. And

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you know, we're living in Tucson, living in a Bay area,

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East Oakland, living in East uh, you know, or passing

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through LA. You know. I'm used to like brightly painted houses,

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fucking dope gardens, you know, the fuck you or Mexican

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that kind of like attitude, you know, and here it's

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very watered down. It's a very strang it's just very beige.

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It's very gray and black. Anyway, and there's reasons for

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this of course we're right. We're not fucking idiots here.

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We know why, all right, And it's they're dark reasons

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and it's sad and but you gotta have compassion for anyway.

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But maybe I'm reading too much into it. Okay, there's

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anyway we're not getting. We're not getting. This is in

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the fucking sociology pocket. The point is, I finally saw

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this member of the mustard order. I finally saw it.

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I was looking for it. I was in this neighborhood

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with the mcmachins. They've got some old Guaya cons on there,

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Guya cum and Gusta Fulliam. Iron wood, I think is

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a common name for it. You see him in the

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Sierra Madre. They're old growth specimen. It's probably five hundred

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years old. They're like fifteen feet tall. You know, you'll

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see him in West Texas tapping out, you know, a

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much more arid climate. They grow, but they don't thrive,

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topping out of like four feet. Wonderful fucking plants. Wonderful plants,

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not grown enough. I just picked them up from my

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friend David, who's got a nursery and Harlingen, great guy.

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We were sitting there cooking blue corn tortillas in his

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front yard. He's barefoot, you know, And I said, damn,

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this is this is the life. You know, our kids

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were playing together. I'm like, how do you you know?

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I could never see someone like you existing where I live.

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It's much too stiff and square. The mar A Lago

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face is really popular where I live. Again, I'm getting distracted. Okay,

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I'm sorry. I got some shit I gotta work through.

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I should have talked to my therapist. I can't talk

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to anyone because you're just doing the bucks a fucking hour. Okay,

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but so I'm talking to you, so just fucking deal

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with it. You'll be fine. So anyway, but he was

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growing guya coon. There's not enough people growing these down here.

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My friend Rosie Rozziel is growing guaya con. He's got

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a nursery in Edinburgh, right, little just small growers, right, members,

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you know, members of a squirre coman. If you're building

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tracked houses, you're not going to go to these guys

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for plants. You should, but you're probably you know, a knob. Again,

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I'm fucking being a dick, not a knob. You're probably

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don't hit you want the crape myrtles in the box

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woods and shit, you know what I mean, and the

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ornamental crowtons. Okay, we're doing it, you know anyway. But

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so there's people down here growing good stuff, right, but

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it needs to get bigger. We need to get you know,

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fucking get some of those plants so that members of

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a square community learn to appreciate them. That's what we

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need to go. That's where this podcast is going. And

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I'm going to get into why again. Turns out because

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the city's fucking with me from my yard and they

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are fucking with me for planting street trees. They just

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don't want street trees. And then it just made me

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realize this whole kind of inner hatred of nature that

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exists down here and in much of Mexico. Not I

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wouldn't say to maybe it's a hatred. People love plants,

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they like horticulture, but they don't like nature. And it's

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like this in the United States as well in more

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Anglo areas. But it's just a different flavor, you know,

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it's a different flavor. And well, how do we change it?

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That's what I got to know, you know, how do

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you change it without dos in your appolita, right, without

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doing like this, you know, a clinical therapeutic mushroom trip

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with their right because it's not gonna always she's not

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gonna agree to that, okay, and then it you know,

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and then at some point you've got to be conniving

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and like lure her into she's not gonna do that, right,

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how do you you know, especially the old people, the

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old people, you really got to reach. Not all old people.

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There's some dope old people. All right. I want to fight.

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I want to offend any of the old people because

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people get ages. They think I'm being ages rather right,

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and so you know, you mentioned there's like, uh, there's

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some grannies out there who hate street trees. And then

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every granny thinks you're talking about them. You gotta say, hey, listen,

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I'm not talking about you. You seem pretty cool. Chill out, Okay,

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this is this isn't a do you hate street trees?

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Do you hate plant? Do you hate nature? Do you

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hate native plants? Don't? So it's not about you, don't worry,

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but but your horticulture. Let us not confuse horticulture, which

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is filled with a bunch of garbage. I feel, in

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many ways much of horticulture further alienates and isolates. It's

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from the real living world, right, because it's gaudy cultivars

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that don't really exist in nature. They've been bred in greenhouses.

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They're fucking corny, they're gaudy, they're tacky or whatever. Anyone

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who spent time in nature sees a lot of what

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constitutes modern hortor culture and fucking gasps. It looks fake.

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It's the minecraft landscaping. It looks like it's the plant

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version of the Marra a Lago face. Something ain't right,

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you know, you can tell it's like a human there,

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but it's not right. There's something. The lips are too big,

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the fucking no one really has cheekbones like that. Something's

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wrong with the skin. Looks like it's about the melt off.

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I don't know, I don't know. This is problematic what

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I'm saying. It might be, thank you. I just can't

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listen to that, okay. Anyway, So, uh, we're trying to

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get rid of those people. Anyway. We're trying to filter

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the fucking people that say shit like that. Okay. Anyway,

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So I went to go see this plant. I was

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going to this neighborhood. They got old guyacons they got

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Tlanzia BAILEYI hanging into trees and these old ebonyes. It's

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weird because it's mostly MC mansions, horrible, horrible looking a neighborhood.

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I would probably kill my I couldn't exist in there

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for longer than a week, I'd probably kill myself. It's

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Saint Augustine Grass. It's all the corny shit that got

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done here. I mean, looks like a death cult. It

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looks like a spiritual death cult. Parts of me die

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when I have to go through and walk through these areas.

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Right they look they're completely artificial. They're existing on water

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that's not even going to be here in ten years.

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You know. The people inside are all aligned to themselves,

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no offense. I hope they find what they're looking for

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in life eventually, but they're a lying on themselves. And

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if I can make a sweeping generalization, there's probably some

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very wonderful people in there, probably some very lovely people,

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probably some not so nice ones too, But that's that

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we're not focusing in that. We're focusing on these two

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little lots that are left where the owner has not

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sold and converted it to this hideous tract house slum.

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Very wealthy tract house slum. It's a spiritual slum. Wealthy

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they're doing fine economically, but spiritually it's a slum. Okay,

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it's broke, it's broken. Okay, it's empty, it's depauperate and

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so but there's these these couple of these plants left

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that are growing and thank god because it's you know,

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I go every year to check up on it. A

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lot of members of a native plant whatever the hell

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you call it down here. We come from all different backgrounds,

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you know, we come together because we like the living world.

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They know this spot, there's a well known spot, right,

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so I went to go check it. It's got like

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a construction sign and the sign looks so it looks

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like they were going to demolish it at one point.

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But maybe the project fell through or someone was hoping to,

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you know, they were the only reason the project may

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have been going through was because someone in city hall

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was connected. And then that person in city hall got

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caught embezzling money and taking primes, and so now the

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project fell through and they couldn't get it approved. I

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don't know, I don't know what the deal is. Right,

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there's all kinds of corruption because the city politicians down

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here mostly work for the developers. They do, and that's good.

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I hope they keep doing that because that's great. That's

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good for them. They can get their fourth car and

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send their kids to private school and whatever. It's much

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more important than actually helping make the community a better place.

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But okay, I'm getting distracted. I'm my distain is showing through.

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I said, I wasn't good theutist. I was going to

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be soft and nice and smile and you know, make

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the stiffs feel good. Sorry, getting distracted anyway, So I

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went to this area and then I said, oh, yeah,

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there's I remember, there's supposed to be capris and kana here,

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which is a cool shrub to like ten or twelve feet.

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It's much more abundant than Matamoros Tamalipas just over the

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border a few miles south, at least for now, until

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other sleazy development projects go through on that side. But

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Mexico is not. You know, if there's a race between

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who's destroying more of their native landscape to turn it

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into single use you know, development garbage for developers to

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please the developers. In the Elisee, the United States is

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winning by a long shot. Mexico's got a lot of

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work to do catching up demolishing what's left of their

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new living biota. So so anyway, so I was looking

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for kapris. I knew about this plant, I said, I

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know it's rare. I don't know why. It seems like

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there's a lot of plants that only grow in this

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border region, northern Mexico southern Texas. That's really interesting too,

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because it's such a specific area. You start going further south,

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you encounter I mean, unless you're going to Vera Cruz,

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which is lowland, but you know, you start going further

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south and head up west a little bit, all of

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Mexico starts to go up in elevation, and so the

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climate and the regional environment changes. And so this lowland

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Rio Grande Valley, it's not really a valley, it's a floodplain.

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There's not really any topography here. But this is a

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very specific area where a lot of stuff grows here.

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But it's not going to grow as well. I say

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it three or four thousand feet. I don't think ebeny's

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grow in the Sierra Mandre maybe a little bit, but

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they're more of a lowland plant. There's a lot of

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plants that are like that. So it's got this very

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specific region dictated by different water sheds and elevations, and

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were at a low elevation. I remember most of Mexico's

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at high elevation. So it's very very cool these plants

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that are restricted to this region. Of course, like Jerseys.

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Gerdowski said, how are you pronounced that? I don't know.

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I'm not Polish. But he was a famous Mexican botanist,

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wonderful man who had actually been in as a child.

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He was in a concentration kid because he was Polish. Yeah,

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I think he was a Polish too. I don't know,

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I don't know, but anyway, he just passed away two

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years ago. He wrote a lot of great books, Flora

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Funeralgamica the Mexico as a one of the like one

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of the first Flora books that he wrote. Someone actually

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just gave me, my friend, the jusuag just gave me

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a paperback copy which was very kind of a you know,

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like printed at original printing in the seventies, fucking doll anyway,

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So so there's a very specific regional flora here, appreciated

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by maybe three percent of the population that lives here

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maybe a little bit more right, maybe maybe, but the

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majority don't like it. They don't like it. It's just

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the culture. Why does anybody anywhere paying attention to nature.

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It's like this, whether you go in most places in

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the world, they don't give a shit. People. Humans don't care, right,

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because everything was put here for us and we don't.

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We don't care. Right. You got to put it on there, right,

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You got to educate them, You got to show them

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how cool it is. Technologies allowed us to believe that

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we're estranged from it, then we don't need it, and

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so we don't pay attention to it unless it's psychoactive

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or medicinal or edible or whatever. So, uh, you know,

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it's just the way it is. It's okay. We got

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to change it. But but I go and I look,

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I'm looking for this cap person. Can't I talk. I

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call my friend Ken. I asked, where did this thing grow?

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And he tell me the road. It was on stagecoach drive.

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I can tell you that because the whole area is

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getting destroyed. It's not gonna it's just not gonna be

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therer much longer. And I go there with my friend Ava,

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and we find all these beautiful quiet cons It's like

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dense thorn scrub, right, which looks not inviting. Right. I'm

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sure you've got to steward these landscapes. That's I'm sure

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that's what native people did here for thousands. You've got

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to steward them. You gotta, you know, clip shit back,

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prune stuff up, make sure you can get in there.

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But we have you do that. They're they're wonderful. They're

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they're shielding the ground from the intense sun. They're creating

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a microclimate of humidity. They're they're nurturing places right you want,

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and they're they're shielding the ground from baking into a

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hot clay ball like it would otherwise be, and like

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you see it being in much of the area where

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it's been developed or turned into parking lots, and absolutely

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no concept of the heat island down here by the

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way too. I've talked about that numerous times. This is

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like basic high school physics when you think about it.

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But again, none of us are really ever inclined to

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think about it, right, unless you're going on into nature

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and seeing how much cooler in temperature it is there,

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and then you're going to the parking lot and being like, God,

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this is a fucking I mean, I've hated the shopping

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center since I was like ten years old. They've always

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seemed bleak to me, whether they're in Chicago, whether they're

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down here, very fucking bleak. Driving and shopping that's all

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you do. Oh and eating and most of the food

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is not very healthy. Okay, sorry, we're getting distracted. I

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know you've probably already bummed out about recent events and

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I'm not helping it. Okay, but listen, it gets better.

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It does get better. So we see all these wonderful plants,

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and you know, I had heard that the caparis and

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kana specimen that I was looking for, and this is

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a shrub that gets about twelve fourteen feet tall, beautiful

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silver undersides, just the cool. It would probably be great

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in landscaping here. They should plant that around the margins

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that these bleak shopping centers instead of crape myrtles because

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they always die or the native they use natives, they

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use fracts. In this berlandier rye, which is an ash tree.

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It's riparian. They die unless they're on irrigation or growing

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in an arroyo. Doesn't make very much sense. To use

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them as yard trees or street trees. Right, unless you're

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just watering, you're Saint Augustine grass with water. That's not

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gonna beat her in ten years anyway, because the Rio

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grand is trying up. Okay, so I'm looking for this thing.

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It's a it's a mode down shrub because they just

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mow the shit out of it. It's going right on

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the fence line, and I don't see it, but I

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see some vasis adelia, which is a kind of like

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rubbery stemmed shrub to about twelve feet tall. Really cool

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plant host plant for the Mexican blueing butterfly. Fucking dope

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looking butterfly. Who doesn't like butterflies? You really, you don't

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like butterflies? You're an asshole. Really? They fucking unclench, Yeah,

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they quit trying to be macho. You don't have to quit.

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You can. You can let it go, all right, go

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to therapy, allow yourself to cry once in a while

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when something really sad happens. No one's gonna think you're

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a pussy. Okay, you can do this, all right. It's

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not unclenched quit front thing. This is a Texas thing.

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It's everywhere, but especially in Texas, right, you gotta you

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gotta keep up that bullshit front, and you're just fucking

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dying inside. You live thirty years of your life like that,

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at least if you're a male. Oh god. Anyway, I

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was just crying because Jack, my dog, faked his own death.

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And we'll get into that later. He's still alive. Motherfucker

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wouldn't die. He freaked me out. He's a dick. He

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just freaked me out. I was crying. I was holding him,

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and he wasn't eating or drinking. He was couldn't get

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up and walk for like two days. I was like, fuck,

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this is it. The vet almost came by Saturday, but

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then she bailed. Thank god she flaked because I got

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these vets that'll come put your dog down in your house,

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you know. Fucking hell So anyway, and then Sunday night,

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he's like he gets up and I'm like, what the

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fuck man? You know? And then I fed him. I

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was like giving him food. He wouldn't eat. Sunday night,

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I gave him, put a hot dog in. He wasn't

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even eating hot dogs. I put a hot dog in

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front of his face and he ate it. And now

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he's fucking I mean, he's fine. He's fine as he

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was for a sixteen year old duck. Okay. Anyway, See

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there's a little bit of good news make you feel better.

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So I'm looking around. I see Vasi's Adelia. I see

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these beautiful old guiacns. This is still in the same

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neighborhood where the T. A. Bailey I and the Guayacns were.

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And there's already McMansions and there's two just two lots yet,

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you know, left that haven't been developed yet. But we're

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about four blocks seas to there on stagecoach drive. And

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so now I'm looking and I see, you know, in

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the background, I can see they've just cleared a whole

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bunch of woods. On the satellite map, the woods are there,

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the thorn forest. And then I can see on right

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in front of me, and physically in front of me,

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they're not there anymore. They've been cleared. They've got the

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bulldozers in the back hose, they've cleared all this shit.

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And I'm just it doesn't even phase me anymore because

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I'm so used to it. I've seen so much wreckage

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and destruction since I've not only moved to Texas, and

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they're doing this all over central Texas, in southern Texas,

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but but they're you know, but especially down here in

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a Rio Grande Valley. Right, I've seen astrophyte and mysterious

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get destroyed, thousands of payote plants get bulldozed, and it's terrible.

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It's you know, you just you just kind of keep

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the geologic timescale in mind when this is happening. And

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and uh realize you're gonna laugh when the comic comes,

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because this is this is self destructive behavior, and there's

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nothing you can do. It's like having a friend that's

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a fucking drunk or a junkie, and like nothing you

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say is going to get them to stop. They kind

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of have to hit rock bottom and then may then

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and only then maybe will they walk into an AA

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meeting or decide to quit drinking. It's very similar, very

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similar behavior, you know, modern civilization, the leaders in modern

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chiliz and and alcoholics and junkies. Okay, so I'm looking

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at you know, I've it's still I've given up looking

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for the capwards because I couldn't find it. I don't

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see anything that looks like it's been mowed down. I

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walked the perimeter, I didn't see anything, so I'm just now,

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I'm just going againder An google at the guyacons and

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the faces Adelli and see what else is there. And

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then suddenly right in front of me, and the only

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way I realized I was gonna find this plant was

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it would be the one plant. I had no idea

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what it was because I know all the other plants

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down here. And suddenly I look and I see this

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multi stem shrub do about twelve feet with these beautiful

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silver undersize of the leaves, mahogany shoots and petioles maybe

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a centimeter long, petioles of a centimeter line. And I said,

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I don't know what the shit that is. I look closer,

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I'm like, oh, this is it. This is capers and cana.

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It's a full, full grown individual. Holy shit. I was

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so ecstatic. And then I look at the flowers. I

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see the four white petals, and I think it had

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eight stamens the four petals. Of course, remember we look

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at flowers when we're trying to figure out what plants.

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We're looking at what family it is. And that's how

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you start. You start with what family, right, And if

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you don't know what family it's in. You try to

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figure out what fucking order it's in using things called

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sinapa morphis, which are traits of different levels of taxonomic classification,

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like this, A genus has its own sinapa morphis. A

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family has its own sanapa morphis. For the pea family,

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it's banner and keel flower morphology at least for the

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Faboides subfamily, or the mimosa style flower for the mimosoid

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subfamily of Pabasi, for the p family. For the Brassica family,

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it's four petals, six stamens. And not only is it

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you count numbers here, but the anthers have a tip

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look to them in the in the mustards, right, and

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so do the sepals. They're kind of cupped, right. And

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as the racy of course, the sunflower family, it's it's

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a capitulum of what looks like a single flower is

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actually composed of many different flowers. In the evening primrose

460
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,079
family own a gracie, it's four petals, eight stamens. You know,

461
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,079
we're count of numbers, You get it, right, and so

462
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,400
on and so on with every fucking angiosperm family, and

463
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720
with the ferns you're looking at the sporophylls and the

464
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:50,160
sri and what have you. And where they're aligned on

465
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,279
the underside of the leaf? Do they have an dusium,

466
00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:57,079
a pseudo indusium? Are they linear? Et cetera. You know,

467
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,720
so I look at these flowers, I said, okay, because

468
00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:03,519
I wasn't familiar with capareci, the caper family. You know,

469
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,400
what is a caper? I don't think I've even had

470
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,640
a caper before. What do you do with capers? You

471
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,960
put them in martiniz or theme. I don't drink. What

472
00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,359
do you do with capers? You put them in booze,

473
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,440
you put them in salads and shit, I don't know.

474
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,440
Do you put a caper in jardanira, the Chicago style

475
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,319
olive oil marinated pizza topping. No, jardonira is not just

476
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,720
for pizza. But you can put it on a tany

477
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:27,480
beef sandwich too. But I don't eat that chick because

478
00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:30,160
I don't try to eat mammals most of the time,

479
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,119
because it's just, you know, it's a it's a health thing, right.

480
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,920
I come from a line of Dagos that I'll get

481
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,079
they get all get ass cancer, they get the colon cancer. Shit. Now,

482
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000
I'm not going to refuse it if someone offers me some,

483
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,720
but I generally don't seek it out. Right, I just

484
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:46,920
got a vegetable steamer. I've been steaming fish. I've been

485
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,759
steaming cauliflower, really trying to clean my fucking tubes out.

486
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,880
It's been wonderful. Right, I make smoothies and should drink

487
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,920
a lot of green tea, and then i'll, you know,

488
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,319
indulge in taco polenke, eat far too much taco plunk.

489
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,519
My five year old always wants to go to talk Polenke.

490
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,359
I can't convince her to eat anything else. She doesn't

491
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,559
even fucking like pizza. I don't know. I've never met

492
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:08,039
a kid that doesn't like pizza. She just wants taco

493
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,359
polnke all the time. She wants to live on bean

494
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,279
and cheese tacos. So you can't do that. That's not healthy.

495
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,200
You have to eat something else besides taco polenke. For

496
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:18,839
Christ's sakes, you're gonna make me look like a bad parent.

497
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,599
They're gonna call DCFS. I can't just feed you taco Polenke.

498
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:25,599
But then I realized she's five, and just whatever, just

499
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,440
deal with it. People don't get a broadened palate. For

500
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,519
foods until they're older. Right to do. I don't know

501
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,440
what the fuck I wanted to eat. I didn't even

502
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,559
know what refried beans and cheese were when I was five, right.

503
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:41,519
I learned it later on when I got sent to

504
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,440
this our bound program for fucked up kids. I was

505
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,799
there with this guy who got cast selling five hundred

506
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,480
hits an assid got sent there by the court. I

507
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,559
was there with another guy from wait, wonderful community of people,

508
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,440
wonderful youths. I was thirteen. You know. I got in

509
00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:59,319
a fistfight with this kid I later became close friends with.

510
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,359
That's a great way to become close friends. By the way,

511
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,680
if you're curious about how to make friends, just go

512
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,240
up to someone and punch them in the face and

513
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,880
then but then be nice to him afterwards, and it works, wonders.

514
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,039
It's a great bonding experiment. That's how I met my lawyer.

515
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:15,240
We didn't punch each other in the face. We were

516
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:16,680
talking shit to each other. I told him to go

517
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,640
fuck himself, and it wasn't an endearing way like the

518
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,359
way I signed off on the videos. We really, you know,

519
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:24,440
we were mad. And then a day later he said, well,

520
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,880
I guess we know each other. We you know, we

521
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,839
we know each other much closer now. And I said,

522
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:30,400
you're right in and so let's work together. And so

523
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,920
now he's my lawyer. So anyway, that said, where were we?

524
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,680
So I see this thing. I'm I can feel the

525
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,200
dopamine rush. I'm getting excited. I'm looking at this rare plant.

526
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,480
I say, holy shit, we need to cultivate this. I

527
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:45,960
call my keep, I say, we got to get cuttings. Stat.

528
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,440
I take an herbarium about your stat. I gotta go.

529
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,319
Where the fuck did I put the Irbarian boucher too?

530
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,279
By the way, I can't remember, God damn it. It

531
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,839
was dry and somewhere. I don't know how I did

532
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,279
with it. Anyway, I'm sure I'll find that at some point. So,

533
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,720
you know, I tell uh, I tell my friend. I

534
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,920
just I said, we're gonna be here for a minute. Now.

535
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,720
I got it, and we we start looking immediately looking

536
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:12,200
for more. I couldn't find anymore. There's just this one.

537
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,279
I do a video on it. Whatever, take a voucher.

538
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,039
Then we go out for typhoon and it was it was.

539
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,039
It was good food, but it was expensive. It was

540
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:22,920
fucking overpriced. And I don't get typhood in Brownsville, no offense.

541
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,279
Wonderful people that run it, but they're not you know,

542
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,160
it's it's not the it's not affordable. Okay, but if

543
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,359
you're in Alpine, Texas, go to the type place there.

544
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,640
That's a wonderful way. Okay, let's keep going. I'm getting distracted.

545
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Here are you still listening? Even I don't know what

546
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:38,640
are you doing? You work? What the what are you fucking?

547
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:40,880
What are you doing? I don't know? Do you what

548
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,319
are you doing? I don't care, never mind some of

549
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,880
my business. So we uh we go. And the next day,

550
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,279
after the video comes out, I get contacted by a

551
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,240
gentleman who tells me he's the forester, the city forester

552
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,119
for the city of Brownsville. I didn't even know they

553
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,480
had one. That's pretty cool. I can't imagine the town

554
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:01,240
I live in having a city forester because they don't

555
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680
have trees. They hate trees, they don't want trees. They

556
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:05,920
want to cut all cut down all the trees. And

557
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,200
the ship they plant is horrible too. Again, it's like,

558
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,880
you know, live oaks, which aren't really native, don't do

559
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,279
that well. And uh, I mean they're native to the continent,

560
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:19,880
but not down here. It's just they're not thorn scrub plants.

561
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,839
And and then you know the fracss berlandier rye, crape

562
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,519
myrtles and all this shit, right, stuff that's not really

563
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:28,559
going to be good. They've totally turned off to the

564
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:32,599
native legumes that are so dominant here and such great

565
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:39,200
street trees. So and so this guy tells me, he said,

566
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,519
I'm gonna wait, can you shut tell me where this

567
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:43,279
spot was? And I said, oh, yeah, I just left

568
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:46,359
the location open an eye naturalists because I want people

569
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,920
to go there. They're going to destroy it anyways and

570
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,759
build some fucking mc mansions. So and they are McMansions.

571
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:54,039
They're large houses. You can see what they're building. So

572
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:55,880
he looks it up. He finds out they didn't pull

573
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:02,680
their permits correctly. He goes to you know, he's like,

574
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,119
I'm going to order a stop to the construction whatever,

575
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:09,400
to the whatever they're doing. And then I get a

576
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,000
call from him later and it turns out he actually

577
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,680
he reached out to the guy that the owner, who

578
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,519
he went to high school with. And so it's it's

579
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,079
not even this antagonistic situation anymore. It's just like the

580
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480
guy said we could go remove it, I'm going to

581
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,279
call this tree farm to go do it with a

582
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,759
tree spade. By that point, my friend David and Mike

583
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:29,000
Heap and a few other people had gone and taken cuttings,

584
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,960
and so hopefully we can get this thing at the cultivation. Meanwhile,

585
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,920
I know a guy at Wardo and another dude on

586
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,039
the other side of the border in Mexico and tam

587
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:44,119
Alipus where there's a very small but the enthusiastic native

588
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,240
plant community, and they're collecting seeds from the wild plants

589
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,720
left over there. So now the goal is to just

590
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,119
grow the absolute shit out of this and get it

591
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,640
into cultivation. And as much as I even hate going

592
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,519
to home despot in all these other places, we need

593
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,160
to start working on these focks to get them to

594
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,160
grow native plants. Low's home despot. You got to start

595
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,720
working on them. What we need to do is change

596
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:12,920
the entire concept of what horticulture is supposed to be.

597
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,920
It's not. You know, for so long, horticulture has just

598
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,839
been about what's esthetically pleasing to rich old ladies. That's ridiculous.

599
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,079
That doesn't mean anything. People that are disconnected from the

600
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,640
living machine in their region. Why are we concerned about

601
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,640
their opinions about what's pretty. We need to start treating

602
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,519
plants as infrastructure, and the whole concept in the context

603
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:40,240
itself is what's beautiful? This plant supports these other species

604
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:45,599
of insect bird, They nurture the land they've They're perfectly evolved,

605
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,440
fucking perfectly evolved for this set of conditions, whether it's

606
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,920
the soils, the extreme summer heat for flooding, whatever, they

607
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,880
evolved there, and why are they built perfectly for it?

608
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Because the environment literally selected for them. The environment literally

609
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:04,920
bred them. The same way that if you're trying to

610
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:08,599
grow heat and humidity tolerant tomatoes, because most heat most

611
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,920
tomatoes are not heat and humidity tolerate. They're from eight

612
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,319
thousand feet in the high dry and these where they

613
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:17,920
grow with brown Ninea condilaris, which is a giant cactus,

614
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,400
beautiful cactus Pronygia, right, that's where the ancestors of tomatoes

615
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,680
are are native. So they don't like the heat and humidity.

616
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,279
They don't like the the higher nighttime temperatures that that

617
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,000
humidity creates because their metabolism can't slow down, so they

618
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,880
hit the compensation point too easily. They're burning the machine's

619
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,960
always on, the machine being the plant, and so it

620
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,920
quickly burns out its energy because it's only it's running

621
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,119
twenty four hours a day, but it's only photosynthesizing for twelve.

622
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
So at some point it just hits a tipping point

623
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,079
and they decline. Right, A lot of plants from high

624
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,759
altitude environments, well, you're not gonna have luck growing bristol

625
00:31:54,799 --> 00:32:00,279
cone pines for very long in say, the Southeastern United States,

626
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:02,640
because bristol compines are from a high altitude environment where

627
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000
they get cold nights and the machine shits down and

628
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,119
of course it's just hot as ever living shit and

629
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,039
humid as balls in the Southeastern United States. You get

630
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:16,079
you catch my drift. So if you're trying to get

631
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,839
tomatoes to grow, you're trying to you're trying to breed

632
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,039
a heat and humidity tolerant tomato. You it's gonna take selection.

633
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,519
And so how do you do that? You grow a

634
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,599
thousand seedlings with a you know, pooling from a broad

635
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,519
genetic diversity, all different cultivars that have been bred by

636
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:36,279
humans over the last few hundred years since uh, you know,

637
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,200
since tomatoes hit it big with the human populace. The

638
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:41,200
Europeans took them over and they said, what you get

639
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,640
what I'm saying you take you select a broad genetic pool.

640
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960
You grow a thousand seedlings, maybe more, the more the better,

641
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400
select them to heat and humidity. Most will die. That's

642
00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:56,119
those that survive. You then start breeding those, and now,

643
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000
because the rest have died, you've opened up this huge palate,

644
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,519
this huge canvas for more to grow and thrive. And

645
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:04,119
there's not as many competing for the limited resources of

646
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:07,920
you know, root space and water and whatever. And so suddenly,

647
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,599
within a few generations you've created a heat in humidity

648
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,039
toweran tomato. Right, look at what humans have done selecting

649
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,559
for different dog breeds that they've all bred from the

650
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:21,079
same ancestral species of wool. For selecting for broccoli and

651
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,279
kale and colabie, which are all the same species of

652
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,319
Brassica brassica olerasia. Right. If humans can do that in

653
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,119
a few centuries, what can the environment do in a

654
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,480
few million years? And that's what's happened in every region

655
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,960
where there's a plant list and a plant community that's

656
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:41,759
native is those plants were literally built and selected for

657
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:45,400
by the environment. Human selection is a great way to

658
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:48,400
introduce you to the concept of natural selection. It's nothing

659
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,640
to do with only the strong survived, dumbest shit I've

660
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,240
ever heard. Okay, It's got more to do with literally

661
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:57,880
selection by the environment, and what's advantageous in one environment

662
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,160
may not be an advantageous adaptived in another environment. We

663
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,920
talk about this all the time on this podcast. Do

664
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480
I need to get this through to you again? This

665
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,680
is for a people who haven't heard it yet, right, So,

666
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:09,440
then that's why the native plants make sense. That's why

667
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,519
they're pragmatic, That's why they do so well. I mean

668
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:16,800
they literally pop up unassisted, especially down here. A lot

669
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,440
of the natives, a lot of the aggressive plants are

670
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480
not invasive. The ruteral plants, the plants you see growing

671
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,119
after they bulldoze a lot and then the project falls

672
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:28,719
through because the sleeves bag developer couldn't get the funding

673
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,800
for it, or couldn't you know, wasn't able to get

674
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,880
the bribe to the city council person in time before

675
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,199
they retired or got voted out, you know, something like that.

676
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:41,679
Like those plants literally pop up mesquites paalo verdes, Parkinsonia

677
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,440
koliata in this case, not my favorite Parkinsonia Texana. But

678
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,559
you know, that's why they pop up so easy, because

679
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:51,159
they mean, you look at how they're just built for

680
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,119
this environment. They're great. They're great plants. And that's one

681
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,159
thing that's really cool about South Texas is most of

682
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,920
the pioneer species we have, except for buffalo grass and

683
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,119
guinea grass and I think KR. Bluestem too, they're all

684
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:09,599
invasive grasses. The pioneer species except for those, most of

685
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:12,440
the pine, the ruteral plants, the plants that thrive around

686
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,159
human environments, on the sides of railroad tracks, drainage ditches,

687
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:18,159
the shit that's gonna pop up if you bulldoze a

688
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:23,000
lot and don't do anything disturbance event. The pioneer species,

689
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,719
the rutural plants kind of the same thing, are all

690
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,719
going to be native, which is very cool. So why

691
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000
don't we use it? We have such an extreme climate

692
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:33,400
down here, right, And so this was something that was

693
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,000
hard for me to grasp when I was younger, when

694
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,559
I just wanted to grow fucking medicicoias everywhere because I

695
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:42,239
thought they were cool trees. Oh it's a cold tolerant redwood.

696
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,920
Was let's grow medicaquoias and you know the Mediterranean climate

697
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,360
of California where it doesn't rain during the hottest part

698
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,320
of Ye, that makes sense. Right. Let's take a plant

699
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,039
from a climate that's more akin to that of eastern

700
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:57,079
North America, where they get fifty to sixty the inches

701
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,559
of rain a year and the tree grows in floodplains.

702
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,280
Try to grow that, you know, in a front yard

703
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,679
in West Oakland. Right, it doesn't doesn't make sense. It

704
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,960
doesn't make sense. Rights. It's like trying to get a

705
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:09,920
square peg to fit in a round hole. It's not

706
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,960
gonna work unless the square is smaller than the roundhole.

707
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,480
But you know what I mean, it doesn't work like that.

708
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480
So anyway, Uh, this is what we get to do,

709
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,639
and you gotta do it, and you gotta talk, especially

710
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,599
if you're in Mexico or you're you're you know, uh,

711
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,599
you talk to your abolita. If you're in Mexico, you're

712
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:31,639
obviously not listening to this podcast. It's in English. Maybe

713
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:33,159
you are. I don't know a lot of them. A

714
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:35,920
lot of my Mexican friends are bilingual, which makes you know,

715
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,840
it's so pathetic for most Americans, since many Americans only

716
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,280
speak English. But anyway, you talk to your appolita, talk

717
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,079
to your talk to your tears, talk to everybody. Start

718
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:53,639
to start convincing them that the concrete backyard is not nice. Okay,

719
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,920
unless you're like a fucking professional NBA player, you need

720
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,639
to practice a lot or something. Okay, all right, you

721
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,079
gotta we gotta stop doing this, Gotta get rid of

722
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:04,320
the Mexican lawn Gotta stop doing the Mexican equivalent of

723
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,199
the lawns of the concrete backyard. Gotta stop doing that.

724
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,239
You gotta start convincing your a belita that maybe instead

725
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,559
of all the crape myrtles and the horticultural home despot

726
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,679
garbage that she picks up at the polga and don't

727
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,039
call it then in front of it, be very nice,

728
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:21,519
but start saying, Look, the native plants are beautiful too.

729
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,199
You see the birds hanging out in the native plants.

730
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,000
They might have spines, but it's because they have to

731
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:28,440
protect themselves, because they evolved in this harsh climate that

732
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,400
we live so much, and so let's respect them. You

733
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,679
can do this. You can advocate these things. This is

734
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,599
something you can do, Okay, And if you're in in

735
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,480
fucking ioware or whatever, and they just want to have

736
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:43,519
you know, you could do the same thing. The tall

737
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,960
grass prairie is pretty amazing. It's not filled with ticks

738
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,280
all right. When it's filled with ticks, it's because it

739
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,960
hasn't burned like it was for you know, every two

740
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:55,320
or three years and two or three year intervals by

741
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,119
the people that took care of this land for twenty

742
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:01,440
thirty thousand years, you know, before settlers came. Right, he's

743
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,760
got to manage it, right, The tall grass prairie is amazing.

744
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,400
You're not gonna get ticks in the front yard unless

745
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,159
you got our models of deer hanging anyway, So settle down, right. Stop,

746
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440
we got to encourage people stop planting just because you

747
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,559
can still plan dow nty whatever. But the but the

748
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,719
native plants are what makes sense. Right. Stop stop having

749
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,719
the go to be the horticultural atrocities in the garbage. Right,

750
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,559
Have it be the natives. Right, this is don't create

751
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,800
a religion out of it. Don't be a militant asshole

752
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,239
about it. Don't be like the kid with the sept

753
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,079
and piercing who's twenty four years old and you know,

754
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,519
just learned what colonization is and it's going to annoy

755
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,400
the shit out of you and lecture you and morally

756
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:41,440
condescend to you. Right, That's what helped us get where

757
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,239
we are today. That's what that shit turns people off.

758
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,360
It doesn't work. Just politely imply, politely and kindly imply.

759
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:51,519
I can coach switch. I talk a lot of shit.

760
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,840
I talk a whole lot of shit, right, I've got

761
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,280
disdain and contempt in my voice sometimes, right, Not really,

762
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,480
it's just I'm just spiny and the inside I'm soft.

763
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,519
I'm soft, fluffy, okay, But I can also code switch.

764
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,159
And if I'm sitting in front of, you know, a

765
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,679
bunch of stiffs in front of city Hall, like I

766
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,480
was a few days ago when I was trying to

767
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,639
convince them to plants street trees, and then also to

768
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,559
leave my yard alone because I just got a code

769
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:17,920
violation for the yard, which I'm pretty sure is just

770
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,079
a personal it's personal now, because we already went through

771
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:22,960
this two years ago and I pissed someone off there.

772
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,320
They got a heart on for me, even though they're

773
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:28,599
about to retire, and so they're coming for the yard again,

774
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,519
and so they don't even know what they're upset about.

775
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,320
But I code switch and I talked to them. I said, look,

776
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,119
can we just stop doing this. You guys don't even

777
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,079
know what you're upset about. I don't live in an Hoa.

778
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,559
You guys are not an Hoa. Come over to the yard.

779
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:41,159
I'll show you what's up. I'll show you what all

780
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:44,719
these plants are, how wonderful it is. Right, it's technically

781
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,000
not breaking any of the code. They're cultivated plants. Well,

782
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:51,800
they don't look cultivated. How would you know what looks cultivated?

783
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,400
And you can't tell by look alone whether something's cultivated. Okay,

784
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,039
let's be honest with ourselves. You're not used to this,

785
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:00,239
and you don't like it because you're not used to it,

786
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,920
And that's okay. But let's come over. Let's pick it apart,

787
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,039
and I'll show you what's up. It's not about height limits,

788
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:07,719
it's not about any of this. It's because you don't

789
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,320
know what it is. Every single person who's ever been

790
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,239
over to my house fucking loves it. Talks about how

791
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,960
wonderful it is. All the birds hang out there. It's great. Okay,

792
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,840
it doesn't make sense to have mode bermuda grass and

793
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,639
an irrigated saint augustine lawn in a climate where it's

794
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,119
summer for eleven months out of the year. That's insane,

795
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:26,400
that's crazy. We don't have the water for that, and

796
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,320
nor should anyone be forced to pay for that, because

797
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,440
if you're not paying the irrigated, then what you're gonna

798
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,960
have is a barren dirt lot that gets mowed. And

799
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,760
I can see them mowing around my neighborhood too. It's

800
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,000
really cute. These guys go out. They've got the face

801
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:41,199
masks down. They look like fucking ice agents, but they've

802
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,000
just it's because they got to have these scarves because

803
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,719
there's not really any grass there in these lots that

804
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,199
they're mowing. They're just kicking up clouds of dust, so

805
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,039
they have to have these masks so that they can breathe.

806
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,039
And don't you know, get some sort of fungal infection

807
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,440
from inhaling long dormant spores in this compacted silty clay soil.

808
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,960
Because there's you can't can't have that. You can't have

809
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,280
a grass a lawn here without it being irrigated because

810
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,679
it's just too fucking hot. Right. The grass blades are

811
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,760
not long enough to shield the ground from getting baked

812
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,960
to shit. Okay, you know it is good at shielding

813
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,400
the ground from getting baked to shit. The native thorn

814
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,320
scrub flora, the native thorn forest flora, the same thing

815
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,599
that the native chachilacas hang out in and the cool

816
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:28,599
indigo snakes and god knows what cool animals that went

817
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,599
extinct only ten thousand years ago. You can do that

818
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:34,840
and you can still see what a thorn scrub forest

819
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,519
looks like if you go to like say Kinta Mazatlan

820
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:42,039
over McCallan, or some of the rare patches of thorn

821
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:48,559
forests that are left Itteria brush tracks La Puerta saying

822
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,320
something wildlife refuge. You know, just look for the green

823
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,079
parcels on the map down here that haven't been bulldozed yet,

824
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,719
that were thankfully that previous generations were thankfully considerate and

825
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,159
forward thinking enough to set aside, and which developers probably

826
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:03,920
will come for at some point because they're doing that

827
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,000
for all over. I mean, these developers really got a

828
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:09,480
heart on for the land. They're not concerned about, you know,

829
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:11,719
community well being at all. They are only concern is

830
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,760
to make as much money as possible, and they're probably

831
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,480
lying to themselves too, So they're they're probably they're probably believing,

832
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,559
they're probably getting high on their own on their own sauce.

833
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:24,519
They don't, you know. So it's not like they're malicious.

834
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,360
They're intentionally conniving. Certainly some are, but a lot of

835
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,239
them just I think, believe their own lives. They believe

836
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,039
the bullshit they tell other people and they believe it themselves. Oh,

837
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,440
we're probably make more holthy for people at the point.

838
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,039
And now you're trying to make as much money as

839
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,360
possible by coming for whatever little morsel of land is left.

840
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,599
And you view land as a resource that you can

841
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:46,800
manipulate and exploit. You don't view land as though this

842
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,239
this has a purpose, it's got a you know, it's

843
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,280
preserving the wild living world that's left there. It's a

844
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,000
little crumb. You don't view it like that. It's it's

845
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:57,719
whatever's left. Right, Like pigs at a trough, they'll go

846
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,639
for the gobble up every last little bit. So they'll

847
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,679
come for the lands down here at some point eventually.

848
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,840
But again I don't say this to discourage you. I

849
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,079
say it to motivate you. You got to advocate. If

850
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,159
people don't know what the native plants are in a

851
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,039
certain region wherever it is, they're not going to give

852
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:16,119
a shit when developers come to destroy it. There's going

853
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:18,679
to be no outrage. There's going to be no one

854
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,679
to speak up for it. Right, whether it's fucking hunters

855
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,960
and fishermen, or whether it's people that just want to

856
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,199
go cool their head and go on a hike, or

857
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,920
nature lovers or birdwagers or whatever. Right, you advocate for it.

858
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,519
And you have to realize how the horticulture that's been

859
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,079
a part of human sociey. The shit we plant in

860
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,840
front of new developments, the stuff your grandma might plant

861
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,079
in front of her house unless she's really dope, grandma,

862
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:43,840
and is in the native plants. The stuff that you

863
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,559
see planted in front of the wells Fargo, and you

864
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:48,039
have to go in there and cash a check, and

865
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:49,719
you really don't like doing it because the bank just

866
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,239
feels terrible anyway, and you know they're fucking you. Right,

867
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:56,440
you see the little deductions monthly and your statement, right,

868
00:43:57,559 --> 00:43:59,760
you look at that stuff that is not that those

869
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,039
are that's garbage. That further, it's as bad as the lawn,

870
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,400
as far as I'm concerned, as bad as the lawn.

871
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,239
It further alienates us. It creates this paradigm that views

872
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,840
nature as messy and things that if plants are going

873
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,199
to be growing where we exist, that they've got to

874
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:18,400
be flowering all the time and have shiny leaves and

875
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,119
and be hedged and neatly spaced. It's a deranged, fucking mindset.

876
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,639
That's not okay. You live in places like that. That's

877
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:28,360
going to affect your mental health, whether you like it

878
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,920
or not. Okay, get rid of this weird Victorian European

879
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:34,840
garden esthetic. Let that go. That's not nature. Where do

880
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,079
we look to see what we can do in those

881
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,679
places instead? And this is my message to all the landscapers.

882
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,760
I want to dose all of them, because horticulture doesn't

883
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,079
need an enema. Where do we look? We look at nature,

884
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:48,199
We look at the habitat, whether it's the California Maritime

885
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,480
Chaparral and coastal southern California, or whether we're in the

886
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,519
thorn scrub of the Tama Leap in thorn thorn forest,

887
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:58,079
or whether we're in the Illinois Prairie or in Northeast

888
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:01,360
woodland or the coastal plain of the Southeastern United States,

889
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:07,159
or the Ozark Plateau or the grasslands of Nebraska and

890
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Kansas and western Oklahoma. That's where we look to. You

891
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:14,519
got to stop trying to deny these places. You got

892
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,440
to stop living in ignorance of the plant communities that

893
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,239
exist there and trying to plant ship from the home

894
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,480
depot garden section like boxwoods or fucking whatever in your yard.

895
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:29,239
When you live in these places, okay, because we've been

896
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,920
severed from the land, you've had it. Yeah, it's not

897
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:34,079
been severed from it, it's been stolen from you. And

898
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:39,360
you've been lied to about what a landscape should look like,

899
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,480
what the world that we live on should look like.

900
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,440
So advocate for it. And you see this in Mexico too.

901
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,679
It's the same thing. It really takes apart all the

902
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,280
weird identitarian bulls. Oh, Mexicans are technically half the digital though.

903
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,280
They just automatically know how to stewar the land. Now now, bullshit, bullshit. Now,

904
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,880
it's not the case. So many people, my friend Carlos,

905
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,320
so many bonis in Mexico, my friend calls. The first

906
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,920
time I met him, he was he was amazed to

907
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:10,079
see astikiam. He was amazed to see people that were

908
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,280
excited about plants. He said, there's no one down here

909
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,599
and grow. Granted he lives in Monterray, which could be

910
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,000
fucking bleak. Okay, there's like a lot of they've got

911
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:18,920
like the Mexican version of the mar A Lago face

912
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,679
down there, lots of phrases, lots of fancy shit, lots

913
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,519
of glossy garbage. It's all poison that value systems poison.

914
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,239
You don't want that, right. There's some dope shit too,

915
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,079
but there's the phrases. Shit is really popular in Monterray.

916
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:35,920
You could look at the billboards and whatever. Okay, it's

917
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,039
a really cool movement. There's some page I found that

918
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,719
is all about all about restoring that river because they

919
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,199
kind of did in Monterey what they did in La

920
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,400
you know, fifty years ago with the La River. They

921
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,320
cemented it and turned it into a dish, which is

922
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,440
just a shit for Brainwaight, I mean, come on, that's ridiculous.

923
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,320
It's gonna you're gonna speed up the flow so fast,

924
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,039
right that there's people who restoring the La River too.

925
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,599
So people are correct the mistakes. Stuff can change, but

926
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:03,280
you need to be part of that. You need to

927
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,360
advocate for it. Okay, you need to really inject it

928
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:13,800
into the popular consciousness. The traditional landscaping's horrible. It's it looks,

929
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,159
it's fucking ridiculous, it's gaudy, it's not real. We want nature,

930
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,519
We want what was real here. If we don't know

931
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:21,000
what it is, we have to seek it out. We

932
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:24,840
have to find out what did these plant communities look like?

933
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,599
What is ecological secession? We have to realize it's not

934
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,960
always static. There'd be a disturbance event and there'd be

935
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,000
pioneer species. Then they would taper off as the secondary

936
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:35,719
secessional species took over, and then they would taper off

937
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,239
as the climax, the you know, the the climax species

938
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,519
took over, right, the really cool shit, The stuff that's

939
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:46,280
slower growing and can't take full sun and get you know,

940
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:49,199
can't grow on a barren environment that's been recently cleared

941
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:53,000
by a bulldozer, a landslide or a fire. What do

942
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,840
these places look like? What was real? What is real

943
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:58,840
where you live? What was there before? If there weren't houses,

944
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,039
go back in time five hundre right, if at least

945
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:03,119
if you're in North America, what was growing there before?

946
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,599
Those things? Okay? And also might as well, while you're

947
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:08,440
here to learn who was living there before? And I'm

948
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,440
talking about like guilty, you know, self flagellating honky land acknowledgments,

949
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,000
But who was there before? What was going on here?

950
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,960
You know, curious about where you live? That's what I'm

951
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,920
talking about, right, figure out what species were there? All right?

952
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,480
Got the fucking land? Are people still doing land acknowledgments?

953
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:25,800
That is a corneus shit? God damn it. I mean

954
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:31,840
it's again, this is nothing to change. Putting pronouns and

955
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,800
bios and land acknowledgment absolutely nothing to change the material

956
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,440
conditions of anybody. In fact, they might have done more

957
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,719
to reverse them, because it just alienated people that maybe

958
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,320
weren't that smart and didn't understand it. And so now

959
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,480
now they're voting for a fascist, which is what we have.

960
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,920
And so we've got American cit Gate getting killed in

961
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,519
the streets. Let's not get into it. I want to

962
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,239
get into that. Okay, we're not. We don't get into that.

963
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:59,119
Jesus Christ and I keep those do you have those

964
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,840
rich college take over your You know it's not a

965
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,760
good idea. I Dentity politics was not a good idea.

966
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,239
Maybe it came from a good place for a little bit.

967
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,280
But you know, once you reach you know, beyond the

968
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,639
age of twenty years old, you gotta get a little

969
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:14,719
bit more depth of the human experience. You realize it

970
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,719
gets a little bit deeper than Okay, here we go.

971
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,360
So yeah, so anyway, so back to Caperson came. So

972
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,920
I guess they're gonna go in. They're gonna take this

973
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,679
thing out with a tree spade. Maybe you could put

974
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,559
some super thrive in there. You know, it's like, what

975
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:31,639
is that, like B vitamin super Thrive was like, it's

976
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,159
like a like it's a liquid concentrate you mixed with

977
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,719
water and you sprinkle it on the roots of something

978
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,519
that you just a plant that you just stressed. Maybe

979
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:41,639
it'll help. And of course if they dig this thing up.

980
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,239
We used to talk about that when I was volunteering

981
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,800
at San Francisco Botanic gart and a bunch. I wasn't

982
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,599
volunteering so much. I never signed their formal waiver. I

983
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,719
was more so just lurking around, and then Don and

984
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,760
Diane and then kind of got the idea that I

985
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,400
knew what I was doing, at least mildly, and just

986
00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,400
let me fuck around. I grew a ton of rare stuff,

987
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,960
and I learned to lot about propagation there, which was great.

988
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,159
And then ten years later some new they got some

989
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,480
new head honcho who threw out all the interesting stuff

990
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,239
and wanted to grow petunias and design backdrops for weddings

991
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,239
and corporate events so they could rent out. They Oh,

992
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,320
it's tragic. It was tragic what they did at San

993
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,719
Francisco Botanical Guard. Maybe it's not like that anymore though,

994
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,599
I don't know, but it used to be a really

995
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,239
great God. I had so much fucking fun there. It

996
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,800
was so interesting. They had a cool library in the greenhouse,

997
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,679
these rickety old greenhouses. I think they demolished them eight

998
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,880
or nine years ago, rickety old greenhouses that had this

999
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,400
smell to them. But it didn't smell bad. It was just,

1000
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:38,360
you know that we'd all get it. We'd all eat

1001
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,239
our burritos there on lunch break at the main table

1002
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,960
and talk like old people young people. You know. It

1003
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,760
was a fucking great part of my life. And I

1004
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,960
was just growing all these rare conifers. Got a bunch

1005
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,400
of stuff from New Caledonia rare era carriers. It was

1006
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,760
the same time I germinated a bunch of Fitzroya Cooper

1007
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,280
Sodi's seed somebody had sent me from Chile, which I

1008
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,960
guess was illegal under sighties, but whatever, who keeps a shit?

1009
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,679
It was pointless. You're not cutting down the tree, you're

1010
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,320
taking seeds to forexit do conservation. Mind blowing how counterintuitive

1011
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,320
sightis could be in some places, you know, just more paperwork.

1012
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Well intentioned, but I certainly saw backlash against it. But

1013
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:24,679
then it's good because maybe, you know, maybe there's some

1014
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,320
lady coming over with a bunch of endangered frogs or

1015
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,239
some shit in a trench coat, you know, tortoises stuffed

1016
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,239
into roundies or something, and she's trying to sell them

1017
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,119
for the petrate. So maybe that's more what it's for.

1018
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,960
They should have made it exempt for plants, at least

1019
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:41,400
for seeds. Okay, I digress. Could you fit a tortoise

1020
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,000
in your under You couldn't fit a tortoise in your

1021
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:45,039
well maybe if they were some of those little tortoises.

1022
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,119
I don't know. I saw the cutest fucking tortoise in

1023
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:54,679
South Africa, the parrot beak tortoise Homopus areolatus. God damn,

1024
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,159
it was a fucking adorable little bit, little bastard. I'm

1025
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,360
still working on videos, man. I got videos from exactly

1026
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,159
a year ago when I was in Chile that I'm

1027
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,599
just finally editing a lot of the high alpine stuff. Incredible.

1028
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,719
So many different plants. It's from seven thousand feet in

1029
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,599
central Chile. Take on the rosette leaf form, whether they're violets,

1030
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,159
violas like the rosolate violets, you know, rosette leaves like

1031
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:23,800
an ecaveria or a seatum or something looks like that, right,

1032
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:27,159
So many different families converge on this form. Really fascinating. Shit,

1033
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,360
I forgot how cool it was. I love doing it.

1034
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,000
But those videos have just been sitting on my phone

1035
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,599
the whole fucking time. I didn't work on them. Now

1036
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:34,559
I finally am like, I'm going Ecuador in a few days.

1037
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,679
I got a clear shit off my phone, got her

1038
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,199
three hundred d barium specimens to make labels four. I'm

1039
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:41,199
stressed out. I gotta go pick my kid up on

1040
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,960
a bike. She gets mad when I don't show up

1041
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,760
on the bike because I got this little bicycle. It's

1042
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,800
like a Tannem bicycle. She wants me to, you know,

1043
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,920
and uh so I bike over there. I think she

1044
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:52,599
just wants to show it off to her friends. I

1045
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:55,440
don't know, but it's either way, it's great. It's really fun.

1046
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:57,280
It's a wonderful time to bike too, because it's not

1047
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,440
one hundred degrees like it probably will be in two months.

1048
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,880
But it's you know. That's the other thing I wasn't

1049
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,960
used to is like the when I grew up, we

1050
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:08,800
walked to school, and in Texas, I guess it's a

1051
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,599
regular thing throughout much of Texas because it's such a

1052
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:14,760
car dependent state. It's so everyone's kind of such a

1053
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,840
slave to the automobile here, just because the way the

1054
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,079
infrastructure is built in cities at least. But I see

1055
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,440
these lines of cars, it looks like a fucking Bears

1056
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,840
game getting out. Man, it takes twenty minutes. These people

1057
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,119
wait in line twenty minutes to pick their kids up.

1058
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,280
It's crazy. Why don't they just park on a side streets,

1059
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,199
walk a block, and then go get their kids. That

1060
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,199
seems like it'd be so much easier, you know, because

1061
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,119
nobody wants to walk here. They hate it. You go

1062
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:41,800
to a fucking drive through coffee shop, there's like, you

1063
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,480
go to a coffee shop to drive through, gotta line

1064
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:47,079
at fifteen cars and you park and walk inside. There's

1065
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:49,480
no one. It's crazy get out the car. You got

1066
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:51,400
to convince people to get out the car, and you

1067
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,039
got to convince your ab willitas to start embracing the

1068
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,800
native plants around them. But again, that's the hard part

1069
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,719
we reentrough is where they actually encounter them because so

1070
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,000
much with that' spin destroyed. Thus comes the importance of

1071
00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:06,199
the native plant movement and advocating for it. But there's

1072
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,559
always that one species that's gonna be a hook. Right,

1073
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:11,920
my friend Willie was talking about, you know, this redneck

1074
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,679
guy he's friends with wasn't in the natives at all.

1075
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,840
He was like doing landscaping stuff. He's playing all this

1076
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,000
horticultural shit, garbage that needs you know, irrigation and gets

1077
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:21,760
sick and dies because it's not from here and whatever,

1078
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,280
or it just takes over because it's invasive. And uh,

1079
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,960
the guy couldn't get into the native thing. He didn't

1080
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,079
really care. And then he saw Salvia DARCIAI and he

1081
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,559
was like, goddamn, he loved it. The guy loves hummingbirds.

1082
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:34,679
This redneck loves humming birds. I fucking love that. I

1083
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:40,079
love that, right, loves hummingbirds and so, and he saw

1084
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:42,800
that these hummingbirds were actually going absolutely eight ape shit

1085
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,199
for Salvia DARCIAI. So then he started getting more aut

1086
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,960
Salvia darcia I was wanted to plant them. He just

1087
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:50,760
fucking planted plant. It's hard to not like Salvia DARCIAI.

1088
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,519
I was so stoked to have seen that in the

1089
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:56,760
wild in uh Waeva leone or now it's what are

1090
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,159
they gonna call it? Salvia Schafner. I know there's some

1091
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,280
guy I've been uh communicating with an I naturalist Mexican

1092
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,840
bonus that studies Salvi, A great fucking guy. Forget his name,

1093
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,159
but he was telling me he's he I go to

1094
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,239
him for all my lamy aces stuff. And there's still plants.

1095
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,440
I have no clue what the fuck I saw when

1096
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,519
I was in Hidalgo uh last month. We started off

1097
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:22,880
in San Luis Poto C, went through Hidalgo, Carrectro and

1098
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:26,960
uh and in Wahaka. But I did see Vaccalinia australis,

1099
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:29,880
a shrub in the rose sea which was grown with

1100
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:35,559
fucking Fukiria purpussii and Pakassiri's WEBERI incredible man, goddamn Wahaka

1101
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:38,880
is so nice. What a fucking amazing state and city.

1102
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,280
But anyway, you gotta if you live in Oahaka, you

1103
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,000
gotta commiss your belief to embrace the native plants there.

1104
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:49,440
You know, they really and they need to label some

1105
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:52,079
of those goddamn plants at the Ethno Botanic Garden there,

1106
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,800
which they give this kind of like limptic excuse as

1107
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,559
to why they don't do it. They're like, oh, it

1108
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:58,880
it kills They're like, what they're saying is we don't

1109
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,519
label the plants here. I've got incredible stuff. It's all native.

1110
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:03,880
They say, we don't label the plants here because it

1111
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,559
kills the magic. The fuck No, that's not why. No,

1112
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:11,559
it's like, it's a wonderful spot. You get a chance

1113
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:13,760
to go there, it's a wonderful spot. You're gonna get

1114
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,199
followed by a bouncer on this tour. You have to

1115
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,840
do a paid tour and they got a bouncer that

1116
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,639
follows you. But whatever, it's worth it. The pain the

1117
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,719
tour is not that bad. But the bouncer that follows you,

1118
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,239
and the fact that no one there knows what any

1119
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,559
of the genus and species names out of the plants

1120
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,400
gets frustrating unless you look out and you got a

1121
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,320
dope tour guy. But the tour guide I had didn't

1122
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,239
know it. So anyway, okay, I want to speak at

1123
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,559
a high school Friday after my meeting with the city,

1124
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:45,280
which was depressing. It seemed like they were almost intimidated

1125
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,400
by me. They didn't have much to say. They're probably

1126
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,400
still going to try and annihilate my yard and fuck

1127
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,840
with me over any other CO violations they can find.

1128
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,000
But I was very kind and did the code switching.

1129
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,719
Think was very nice, and I just want them to start.

1130
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,840
Some of them were actually really cool, but some just

1131
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,559
seemed totally out to lunch, not listening at all, so

1132
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,800
that was kind of depressing. I had Ken King and

1133
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,760
a couple other people from the Native plant the movement

1134
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,000
down here with me, and and so that kind that

1135
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:16,239
was good because they had like eight people at this meeting,

1136
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,119
which was not like eight people from the city at

1137
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:20,400
this meeting to meet with me, which was hilarious. It

1138
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,159
was like Jesus, really, it's like you got to bring

1139
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:26,079
this much muscle. So I left and I went and spoke.

1140
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,159
I got invited to speak at a junior high and

1141
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,159
the kids were fucking dope, but was the great. It's

1142
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:34,800
always nice talking to kids, you know, especially like you know,

1143
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,559
they were all really nice this one. I was surprised

1144
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,239
one kid actually knew the age of the universe. I

1145
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,400
was like, how old is planet Earth? Can you tell me?

1146
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,960
And he said thirteen billion years? But I was like, Okay, well,

1147
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:46,480
I know what you're talking about. You're talking about the

1148
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:50,760
age of the universe at least or the galaxy. Excuse me,

1149
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,199
was it galaxy universe? I don't know anyway, but you've

1150
00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:58,119
obviously been reading up, which was cool. And so I

1151
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,599
just ranted to them for twenty or thirty minutes, no

1152
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:04,559
cursing whatsoever about plants and native plants and you know,

1153
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,639
why don't we have more? And do you guys know

1154
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,639
what the native plants there are? Can anybody name a

1155
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:12,639
single native plant that grows here? And none of them could.

1156
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,760
It was really sad. But then I showed them how

1157
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,199
to use my naturalist and the teacher was really cool

1158
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,679
for inviting me. Some Cajonis man seriously to invite me

1159
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,800
to a junior high right. I think a lot of

1160
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,480
people down here look at me and they're scared of me,

1161
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:31,039
or they think I'm some I don't know, because you know,

1162
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:33,800
the look for down here is like tucked in shirt

1163
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,239
and very you know what I mean, eric can be

1164
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,199
and I think I just I defy the stereotypes. So

1165
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:42,159
I freaked people out, and I got fucking neck tattoos

1166
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,360
and hand tattoos whatever, and I don't know, I don't know.

1167
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,800
Tattoos shouldn't be a point of contention. It's fucking twenty

1168
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,360
twenty five, twenty six now, but you know, but still,

1169
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,400
I guess whatever. You get what I'm saying. It's a

1170
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:59,519
very high and tight clenched area at times. So I

1171
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:02,119
went through this speak to this high school, went really cool,

1172
00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:07,119
went great. The kids seemed genuinely interested. They you know,

1173
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:11,119
they were actually watching me as I spoke. And then

1174
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,199
as I was leaving and the teacher was walking out,

1175
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,280
you know this. The whole high school is like the

1176
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,440
Soviet block style, very bleak architectural style. And we walked

1177
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,199
and there's no trees anywhere except a couple dying phracsinists,

1178
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,320
which again need arroyos to grow. They need arroyos or

1179
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,760
constant irrigation. They're not ideal trees for this. This campus

1180
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,840
should have mis guts or polo verdes all over it,

1181
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,960
but it doesn't or Ebony's even better, Ebony's can be

1182
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,000
really drought tellers. So the teacher then points to an

1183
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,840
oak tree and she says, look, that's that's like the

1184
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,599
one of the few trees we had here, and they

1185
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:47,639
just hacked it, like eighty percent of it back. And

1186
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:49,800
I asked the principle why he did it, and he

1187
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,880
said because it was messy, which is something you always

1188
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,079
hear down here. It's messy. It's so messy. The plants

1189
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:59,360
are messy. Okay, Well, have you heard of a broom?

1190
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,320
You just go out out there and you sweep every

1191
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,559
once in a while. It's not that bad. I mean,

1192
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:07,079
what is the issue here with this? Are you are

1193
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:09,719
you handy capable or something? Are you not able to?

1194
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:13,840
Is it what's impeding you from just sweep? Because it

1195
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,320
takes about three minutes to do this. What's the problem? Right,

1196
01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:19,599
So instead of doing with the mess and instead of

1197
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:22,800
realizing the benefits that trees provide, like absorption of water

1198
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,360
and infiltration of water into the ground with thus reducing

1199
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,599
flooding or keeping the sun from warming the ground and

1200
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:31,000
the concrete that surrounds it and thus creating a heat

1201
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:36,760
island because it takes upwards of fourteen hours for asphalt

1202
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,960
it's at one hundred and forty five degrees fahrenheit to

1203
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:42,400
finally cool off within ten degrees fahrenheit of the ambient temperature.

1204
01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:45,440
And as you know, summer nights are nowhere near that long.

1205
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:47,920
So then that effect built up over many weeks, is

1206
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,039
that you've created a heat island in a giant space

1207
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:52,679
here that's fifteen degrees hotter than it would otherwise be,

1208
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,320
thus making it more miserable for people. Right, instead of

1209
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,719
realizing that, oh, sweeping is just a small price to

1210
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,480
pay for the many benefits vite about his tree, Well,

1211
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,480
let's just cut it back, right, and we're not going

1212
01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:05,360
to cut it down because people might actually complain about that,

1213
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,119
so we're just gonna cut it back. Well, that's this

1214
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,960
kind kind of shit that you got to be loud about, right,

1215
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,679
nice but loud. Let's not do this. This doesn't make

1216
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,960
sense and point out why and talk about how it's

1217
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,960
affecting everyone. It bums everybody out, you know, And if

1218
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,480
people aren't bummed out, then they need to be and

1219
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,440
you need to bum them out. You need to bum

1220
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:28,360
them out about it. Oh, just don't don't don't make

1221
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,199
any wave, just bake, keep your head down, smile, don't

1222
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:37,639
bake any waves. Oh God, anyway, how'd they work out

1223
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:39,679
for the housewives in nineteen fifties? They didn't leave to

1224
01:01:39,679 --> 01:01:42,840
do a bunch of mental health issues, right, keep your

1225
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,440
mouth shut and just avoid conflict at any cost, avoid

1226
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:49,679
anything that might be unpleasant. God, that's not a healthy

1227
01:01:49,719 --> 01:01:53,119
way to do things. So anyway, But yeah, so that

1228
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:55,360
was kind of a I mean, that was testament to it.

1229
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:58,119
And you see that everywhere, at least down here, you know,

1230
01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:01,360
the health strip, the strip between the sidewalk and the

1231
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,119
street completely barren, just the giant heat island, just so

1232
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:12,119
few trees everywhere. It's crazy. So you can change advocate

1233
01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:16,039
for it. I also, I went to go visit a

1234
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:20,400
friend of mine at his house and he works for

1235
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:23,719
the Highway Department here and they're building a new road

1236
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,760
around Rio Grande City, which has resulted in a lot

1237
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,639
of destruction of plants. And he luckily was able to

1238
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,239
save like he had like thirty more tonias that he

1239
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,039
had dug up. And when you dig him up, you

1240
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,559
got to cut back eighty percent of the top because

1241
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:43,119
you're disturbing the roots. You're destroying the roots. Right, the

1242
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:45,360
roots are doing most of the absorption through the distal

1243
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:50,360
five percent of the end of the root, because that's

1244
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,320
where the root hairs are. Right, most of the root

1245
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,880
is just transporting water. It's only the tips that have

1246
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,960
the root hairs on them. For most plants with agaves,

1247
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,360
that might be a little bit different. And you look

1248
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,719
at a gave roots under a microscope, they've got hairs

1249
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,159
and little projections around the whole thing. But you know,

1250
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:08,840
a guylways have to they are desert plants, so they

1251
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,320
have to absorb water as quickly as possible make use

1252
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,719
of that sparse rain that they're getting. But but he

1253
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,079
had dug up these mortonias, and Mortonia is in the

1254
01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:20,239
family Cellistracy, which, uh, what what order is cellistracy? And

1255
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,880
I should know this, but I don't. Oh, it's in

1256
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:28,079
the order cell Australis. Okay, that's not family cellistracy order

1257
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:32,559
cell Australis. Uh. Celeustrace is one of two families in

1258
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:36,519
Cel Australis. Celeus Tracey is one of two families in

1259
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:39,920
cel Australia's, the other being Lepido boutriacei. Where the shit

1260
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:46,239
is that? Where is Lepido boutriace It's a family of

1261
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,559
two genera Lepido boutrous and a Reptilio carpon, which are

1262
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:55,800
both tropical genera. Oh beautiful, bark on it. Oh it's

1263
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,679
got the like red Flowum. It looks like a red cambium.

1264
01:04:00,679 --> 01:04:05,599
I think celistraci has orange red cambium as well. I'm

1265
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:10,840
not sure anyway, Yeah, Mortonia, So Mortonia, you get Mortonia

1266
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,960
utai insis in the Mojave Desert, Mortonias and perviians in

1267
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:20,199
West Texas, Mortonia scabrella in New Mexico and Northwest Texas.

1268
01:04:20,599 --> 01:04:23,199
It's a really wonderful genus. The leaves look really cool

1269
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:25,559
on it. Their imbercate kind of like snake scales or

1270
01:04:25,639 --> 01:04:28,639
roofing shingles. They kind of point upwards. They tend to

1271
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,519
on most of the species. But Mortonia gregory is the

1272
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:33,480
one we get done here, and it's more common in

1273
01:04:33,639 --> 01:04:36,440
Mexico and especially in the Sierra Madre where it grows

1274
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,639
out of rock walls and it'll be growing with a gave.

1275
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,760
Sorry it was a phone call anyway. So Mortonia Gregory,

1276
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,519
I there will be growing with a gave albo palosa

1277
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,000
growing out of rock walls. And here where you see

1278
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:53,559
it growing in South Texas, it's normally growing in very

1279
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:58,880
rocky areas, often on these these little cerro's, these little zartos,

1280
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,880
these little hills composed of rocky conglomerate, you know, rocks

1281
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,880
that were transported by the ancestral Rio grand however many

1282
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,920
millions of years ago, and then cemented, deposited and then

1283
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,000
cemented with caliche into what formation is it is? It's

1284
01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:17,400
not the catahula, it's the Goliad formation, the Goliad gravels,

1285
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,679
and so you'll see moretonia grow in there. It's a

1286
01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:22,039
really rare planet. It needs to be planted more in cultivation.

1287
01:05:22,119 --> 01:05:24,679
It's fucking dope. It's incredible. So he was able to

1288
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:26,159
save many of them, but there's you know, we're we're

1289
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:28,960
witnessing a lot of destruction down here. So it makes,

1290
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:31,760
you know, it all the more imperative in a state

1291
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,920
that's ninety six percent privately owned, it makes it all

1292
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,559
the more imperative to grow things, to grow them as

1293
01:05:37,639 --> 01:05:39,599
much as possible and get them out there and expose

1294
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:41,039
people to them. Whether it's even if it's in the

1295
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:44,000
landscaping of like a bleak shopping center or especially better yet,

1296
01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:46,480
your front yard, and it's you know, I know this

1297
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:49,559
is this is specific to South Texas, but it's the

1298
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:52,239
same for wherever you are, right especially if you're on

1299
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,440
the East Coast, because so much habitat has been cleared

1300
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,960
in the East Coast compared to the west, because that's

1301
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,360
where the settlers landed first, and where this mentown that

1302
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,440
just annihilates and gobbles up land, uh with no with

1303
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:07,000
very little regard for the living world on it. That's

1304
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,519
where the that's where it landed first. Right until we

1305
01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:14,159
update the system, the culture, which hopefully we can do,

1306
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,360
you know. Uh, that's that's the status we're living on

1307
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,039
right now. Right till you get you get respect and

1308
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,760
reverence for these things. That's where we're at right now.

1309
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:29,599
Everything's threatened. Anyway. On a lighter note, I was walking

1310
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:31,840
to the pizzeria and there my house, me and Louis

1311
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,039
were my dog, my other dog, the one that's not

1312
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,440
faked his own death. Okay, Jack, you know, Jack faked

1313
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,280
his death. He pretended like he was gonna die. He

1314
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,480
wasn't eating, drinking, or walking for two days. I had

1315
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,880
to carry him outside the piss. Suddenly he started eating

1316
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,320
hot dogs against Sunday night. What the fuck? You know,

1317
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,239
right when I was sitting there crying with them on Sunday,

1318
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:53,239
telling him how much I loved them, how grateful I was,

1319
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,119
and then you know, and then that he just comes

1320
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:57,360
with what he's making me look like an asshole anyway.

1321
01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:01,800
Uh so we already went through that. So I'm walking

1322
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,320
to the pizzeria to just get a slice, just really quick,

1323
01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:08,719
and this this car. You know, the drivers and the

1324
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,400
drivers in Texas are terrible, but in South Texas especially,

1325
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,719
like they're just aggressive. In all of Texas, they're aggressive.

1326
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,360
They ride your ass. They drive these giant, jacked up trucks,

1327
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,280
which sometimes they need, which I totally get. But most

1328
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,800
of the time these things are just parking a lot princesses.

1329
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,519
They have not a single scratch on them, right, they're

1330
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:29,159
like excellent paint job. Not you know, they really it's

1331
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,760
it's just you know, like a dick measuring contest, which

1332
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,400
is kind of cute. It's kind of funny. It's like, oh,

1333
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:36,239
you didn't get enough love from your father, so you

1334
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,840
got it, okay, anyway, not let him offending people out there.

1335
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,079
But whatever the reason. So the cars are coming at me,

1336
01:07:44,159 --> 01:07:47,039
I'm crossing the street, and I do that thing that

1337
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:50,800
you see in Chicago, especially in black neighborhoods, and I

1338
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,760
fucking love it. Where there's like West or South Side,

1339
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,960
you're crossing the streets, some dude jaywalks and then when

1340
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,000
he sees it you're not slowing down, he intentionally slows down.

1341
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,960
And I fucking do this one hundred percent. It's where

1342
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,880
do you think I learned it? And he's and he

1343
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,440
then he gets like a fucking swagger in his step,

1344
01:08:07,559 --> 01:08:10,800
like he says, Shane slowing down as he crosses the street,

1345
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,199
looking right at you, and his eyes just say go ahead,

1346
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,359
hit me, motherfucker. You know, like he wants you to

1347
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,720
hit him. So that's what I do here because people

1348
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,760
don't slow down. And you know, normally you look and

1349
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,279
it's like some three hundred pound woman no offense, uh,

1350
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,119
you know, driving you know, texting and like eating something

1351
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:29,720
while she's driving, and then she gets a upset that

1352
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,399
you're in the middle of the road even if you've

1353
01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:33,960
you know, even if there's a red light like one

1354
01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:36,560
hundred yards down like she's going to be stopping a

1355
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,760
red light anyway. You know. He's a Texas thing and so,

1356
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,520
and I've just gotten accustom to it. And so I'm

1357
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,039
crossing the street and it's this car honks at me.

1358
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,680
And I didn't do anything, luckily, because then as a

1359
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,439
car passes by, you know, I'm doing that thing that

1360
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,319
the dudes on the western south side of Chicago do

1361
01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,479
when you look at the people, like I look at

1362
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,439
them to make sure they see me, and also to

1363
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,640
see that I don't care if they hit me, because

1364
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,239
I'm gonna fuck up their car. If they hit me,

1365
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,199
you hit me, I'm taking I'm definitely taking out a headlight.

1366
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:09,159
And I'm gonna you're gonna have to get a new windshield.

1367
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,439
I'll make absolutely sure, right, I'll make sure I get

1368
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,760
it and give it an elbow. I don't care about

1369
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,920
a fracture. I'm gonna fuck up your car, you know.

1370
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,439
So this dude Hanks, and I look, but he doesn't

1371
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,960
look angry. I can like see through the tinted glass.

1372
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:25,800
And then as he passes me, he rolls down his

1373
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,840
window and he goes, I can't wait for your book, man,

1374
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,880
you know, And I'm like oh that's not go right on, man.

1375
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,640
And he looks he's like he's like a he's like

1376
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,560
a fat dude in a mini van, looks like your

1377
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,760
average Chicago Bears fan. And the amount of pride, and

1378
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,479
he's wearing a hat. You know, it just looks like

1379
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,560
some some working class slub like me. And the amount

1380
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,640
of pride I felt at that being my fan base

1381
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,720
was overwhelming. You know. I wanted to go give that

1382
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,039
guy a hug. I was like, fuck, yes, thank you,

1383
01:09:55,279 --> 01:09:58,600
you know, and it's at THEIRS fan base, the crime

1384
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,279
Pace fan base, you know, and it's and I'm glad

1385
01:10:01,319 --> 01:10:04,600
that I have that those dudes. You know, I don't

1386
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,479
know if he works as an electrician or something or

1387
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,199
if what. I don't know what his deal is, but

1388
01:10:09,359 --> 01:10:12,560
to that, sir, I will buy you. I owe you

1389
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,279
a slice. I should have gotten a slice of pizza

1390
01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:16,039
for him. If if he was pulling into like the

1391
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,319
payday loan place that's next to the pizza spot, I

1392
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:21,319
would have gotten him a fucking slice. So would have

1393
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:25,520
been like, hey, brother, you know so uh. You know,

1394
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,680
there's college kids and stuff to follow this too, and

1395
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:32,119
teachers and stuff, but you know, there's certainly It's funny.

1396
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:36,800
I can trust the the demographics of people that I've seen,

1397
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:40,199
you know, right me or just on the street, say

1398
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:42,279
I love what you do, and then I can and

1399
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:44,880
that they always make me feel good, like just knowing

1400
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,960
who they are, you know, because it's it's I approve

1401
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,319
if I can be so judgmental, whereas the people that

1402
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,079
it's always the people that say they have a problem

1403
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:57,319
with me or they don't like it's always a certain

1404
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,760
I can fit. I know exactly what kind of person

1405
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,720
it's gonna be, all right, And I'm only being partially hyperbolic,

1406
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,880
partially exaggerative when I say that it's gonna be you know,

1407
01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:12,439
the stiffs. Someone's kind of apprude, kind of a you know,

1408
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,680
it makes that the face, you know the face people

1409
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,319
that are really happy, you know that face they make,

1410
01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:19,000
but m like they're squinting, like they just ate a

1411
01:11:19,119 --> 01:11:20,840
turd or like they were eating a doughnut. And then

1412
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,199
there was like a they found bird shit or like

1413
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:24,960
a pube on it, like something like that, you know

1414
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,399
what I mean, MM, like that kind of you know

1415
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,479
what I mean, You're generally Anglo, right, not always, but

1416
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:36,479
generally generally generally from a wealthier background. Right, I'm pigeonholing here.

1417
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,159
Take it with a great as salt. But I know

1418
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:41,399
who it's gonna be. Mmh. You know what I mean?

1419
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,279
The people who are gonna call me problematic or whatever.

1420
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,239
He's yeah, he's he said he was called someone fatter.

1421
01:11:48,319 --> 01:11:50,600
He said the R word, you know, something like that.

1422
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,960
That's it's always gonna be that that. It's always gonna

1423
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,319
be that person. I know who it's gonna be. So

1424
01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:58,520
when I've got the demographic of people that don't like

1425
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,960
crime pays and the people that i'mographic people that are

1426
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,800
fucking stoked on it, and I'm I will say I'm

1427
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,159
content with who those like. It's it's rarely someone that

1428
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:13,359
I actually on the surface, I'm looking at superficial features

1429
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,239
and traits. It's it's rarely someone that I respect, that

1430
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:22,119
that hates what I do. What I do. It's always like,

1431
01:12:22,199 --> 01:12:24,479
oh yeah, of course, I say, yeah, oh that person

1432
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,199
hates me. Yeah, of course, you know. I saw that.

1433
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,079
It's you know, or the page, because I try it

1434
01:12:29,119 --> 01:12:30,640
to take it personally. It's not about me. It's about

1435
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,800
the page. It's about me sometimes, Right with those rich

1436
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,720
college kids with the check group, they got a fucking

1437
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,319
you know, they don't look very happy. It's always that's

1438
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:43,279
like a perfect demograt. That's that's who, That's exactly who

1439
01:12:43,399 --> 01:12:48,279
I You know, those are the people that it wasn't

1440
01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:51,800
meant to be. I could guarantee you pigeonhole in here,

1441
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,079
pigeonhole on right. I hope they get therapy. Those the

1442
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:59,119
college kids with the check group. Anyway, they're rich kids

1443
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:01,000
with the check group. Not not all of them are

1444
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:09,079
in college, but anyway, so I felt good. The thing

1445
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:11,640
that's an important point to note, and this is something

1446
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,439
I want to start doing more, is uh because people

1447
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,000
are always asking me what the plant like, people that

1448
01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:19,159
have no idea about this, like I want to kill

1449
01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:20,680
I want to kill my lawn. I don't know what

1450
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,119
to put in. And I always say, pick five plants

1451
01:13:25,079 --> 01:13:28,600
right to five pioneer species. The pioneer species is going

1452
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,199
to be the easiest things to grow, right. The things

1453
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:34,119
that they get established after disturbance, they can be weedy,

1454
01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:37,199
especially if they get to other contents. They can be weedy,

1455
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:41,560
like golden rod, very important pioneer species in the Midwest

1456
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,720
and more temperate latitudes Midwest East Coast. But when they

1457
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,399
get when that genus gets Solidago and that genus gets

1458
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:54,840
to Europe, it can be very very problematic. So you know,

1459
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,920
to find the pioneer species and and just listed like

1460
01:13:58,079 --> 01:14:00,640
fives like here in the in South Texas, I give

1461
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,439
I have like a list of like I've got I

1462
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:07,880
love using everything, but five sturdy shrubs that I recommend

1463
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,479
the people. And if I was in you know, the

1464
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,359
tall grass prairie area regions, I would it would be

1465
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:17,119
five you know, fast growing, relatively long lived or bacious

1466
01:14:17,119 --> 01:14:19,239
pregnice not long lived. I guess I shouldn't say that

1467
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:23,159
Sylphium can Sylphium terriment, that nacium can last a century

1468
01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:26,880
or so, but but I would, you know, I would.

1469
01:14:27,079 --> 01:14:29,680
I've got my five plants. I recommend the people. If

1470
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,439
you don't know what you're doing, just get plugs of

1471
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,960
these five plants. And you know, in Illinois, and then

1472
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:37,159
the same thing for South Texas. Like for South Texas,

1473
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:42,359
it's uh Lucophylum protestants Sydneya tenuifolia aka skeleton leaf one

1474
01:14:42,399 --> 01:14:47,560
hundred percent uh Cythererexylum. Though cythereexlum is like an Eastern

1475
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,840
Rio Grand Valley species. It tends to like a little

1476
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,920
bit more humidity. It doesn't do so well in drier areas.

1477
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,560
There's a cythereexylum that does better in UH. In drier

1478
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,600
areas of like Star County, it's got reduced leaves and

1479
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,000
flowers sizes. Trixis Inula or californica, because if you get

1480
01:15:04,079 --> 01:15:09,199
up towards Laredo you get more Trixis californica, and we

1481
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:13,319
got TRIX's Californica at thornscrub. Actually it's like a weird

1482
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,359
intergrade between Ula, the broader leaved species adapted to more humidity,

1483
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,880
and then Trixis uh Trixis californica. Trixis, of course ascerace.

1484
01:15:22,119 --> 01:15:26,479
It's a mutissioid, the Mutisicioe subfamily fucking dope genus Trixis

1485
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,600
Californica grows in the Mojave desert too. It's got a

1486
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,359
broad range. And then you get into you know tom

1487
01:15:31,399 --> 01:15:35,159
Alipis noble own, you get the Trixis Inula East Texas,

1488
01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:39,479
East Southeast Texas Trixis inenula as well. So Trixis Inula

1489
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,800
cid the Rexalum Lucophylum protestants aka Siniso skeleton leaf aka

1490
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:49,520
Sydney at Tenuafolia isisen Hardia Texana. That's a fucking solid one.

1491
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,520
It smells incredible, can get ten feet tall. But you know,

1492
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,399
you tell people get these perennials established because especially in

1493
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,760
terms of shielding heat from hitting the ground, that's going

1494
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,680
to be really important. And then also the pollinator benefit.

1495
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,279
You want to get all the cool bugs in their

1496
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,439
beneficial insects. That's what you know, that's what you've got

1497
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,920
a plant. Sidniso does it. I don't see too many

1498
01:16:12,079 --> 01:16:17,640
things pollinating Siniso lucophiling for testins family scrow fularyac. But

1499
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,960
but Sidney attendu Afolia definitely. You know, I'm sure there's

1500
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,560
a lot of stuff that pollinates luco filing for testants.

1501
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,840
I just maybe I just don't know about it. That's

1502
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,039
just more of like a really sturdy, fast growing cover.

1503
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:34,840
It's important for shade. They looked ope, they got silvery leaves, right,

1504
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,359
So find that in your region. And if you find

1505
01:16:37,399 --> 01:16:39,479
that in your region, do me a favor and email

1506
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,479
me five six, seven plants whatever that are really easy

1507
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,159
to get established and very important to grow after somebody

1508
01:16:47,279 --> 01:16:51,279
kills their lawn for the purposes strictly of you know

1509
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:53,319
long killing you having a native plant card, and then

1510
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:55,239
I will put those up on the website for every

1511
01:16:55,319 --> 01:16:59,359
different region of the United States. Okay, keep the email

1512
01:16:59,399 --> 01:17:01,039
short if you can't, because I'm probably not going to

1513
01:17:01,079 --> 01:17:02,680
read them. No offense. I just I have too much

1514
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,319
shit to do. And I'm fucking sick again too. I

1515
01:17:05,399 --> 01:17:08,520
got sick, I got I got It's weird. I just

1516
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,039
have like it's like a head cold. I've been taking

1517
01:17:11,079 --> 01:17:15,199
those those Chinese tablets to it's like a compressed pill

1518
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,600
or compressed plants, like herbal Chinese Erbo medicine. Lily recommended

1519
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,279
it to me, and then I I wasn't going to uh.

1520
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,000
I was kind of making fun of him, like, oh,

1521
01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:27,680
it's a placebo. But then I was like, fuck it whatever,

1522
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,720
I'll take them. And they actually they actually seem to work,

1523
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,840
so they've held it off. But I still feel pretty

1524
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,560
fucked up. And I had a sore throat last night,

1525
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,000
and I just feel that stuffy head feeling where you

1526
01:17:36,079 --> 01:17:38,920
feel like you're on bad acid or something, you know,

1527
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:41,279
where you just like your head or like cough syrup.

1528
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:42,840
I get the same thing when I take coughsp it

1529
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:48,880
feels terrible. So figure out what those five or six

1530
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,239
species are, right, and then tell other people too. Right,

1531
01:17:52,359 --> 01:17:54,439
So once, some for the Northeast, like some of the

1532
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,039
Sympio trichoms, some for the Southeast, some for the central

1533
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:03,359
East coast eastern seaboards, some for Appalachia, some for Ozark Plateau,

1534
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,760
some for the some for the dryer grasslands, some for

1535
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:12,319
Colorado and the rocky mountain areas or foothills of the Rockies.

1536
01:18:12,399 --> 01:18:16,560
Some for the Pacific Northwest, you know, coastal California. Backris

1537
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,159
pillolarius would be there. Of course, coyote bush backers neglected,

1538
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:24,439
don't forget that. For Central Texas poverty weed, whatever the

1539
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,800
stupid common name is for you know, south southwestern the

1540
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,119
southwest areas from you know, the high deserts in New

1541
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:34,840
Mexico to the lower deserts of Tucson, Arizona, to the

1542
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:38,920
Mojave Desert areas of southeastern California, to the La Chaparral

1543
01:18:40,079 --> 01:18:46,000
La and San Diego Chaparral. Russ probably right rous, integrafolio maloes, malorhina.

1544
01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:48,439
Those are important shrubs. But the shrubs are really important.

1545
01:18:49,119 --> 01:18:53,119
Shrubs are really really important. It's it's like a blanket

1546
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,960
that protects the ground from getting baked to ship by

1547
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,520
the sun and provides ample pollinator benefit and his host

1548
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,520
plant for numerous things. That's the things. You know, what

1549
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,840
you if it's a native insect, you want your plant

1550
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,159
to get eaten. You want the leaves to get eaten.

1551
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:11,439
And we got Texas leaf cutters here and I was

1552
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,079
stoked to see they were taking leaves off a tepe wai.

1553
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:16,600
They totally denuded it. But it'll bounce back. It's like

1554
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,399
a fifteen foot tall tree. It'll be fine. You know.

1555
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,880
I enjoy watching the little fuckers right the feeding, you know,

1556
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,239
cutting the leaves off, feeding, the feeding the leaves to

1557
01:19:28,319 --> 01:19:31,760
the fungus in the ground. In other news, I was

1558
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:37,199
at Thorn Scrub a couple of days ago, and yeah, man,

1559
01:19:37,239 --> 01:19:40,319
the pigs are just We got like a pig couple

1560
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,640
living on the south and we have to we have

1561
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,399
to take him out some hot they're not going in

1562
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,079
the trap. Willy helped me. My friend Willy helped me

1563
01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:51,279
bring a trap down there that we got and they're

1564
01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:53,159
not going in it. So it's just it's a pain

1565
01:19:53,239 --> 01:19:55,279
in the ass. It's I don't know how they know,

1566
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,039
you know, because I don't know if they've seen a

1567
01:19:57,079 --> 01:19:59,039
trap before or what. But we're probably gonna have to

1568
01:19:59,079 --> 01:20:03,359
get hunters with thermal scopes, which people want to do,

1569
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:04,920
but it's just it's hit or miss. You might be

1570
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,039
waiting all night, you might be waiting for three days,

1571
01:20:07,079 --> 01:20:09,640
who knows if they're gonna come by or not. But

1572
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,600
that's what you gotta do. You gotta you gotta kill

1573
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:18,520
the pigs. Thermal scopes and and you know, good strong rifles, right,

1574
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,319
you could kill AR fifteen would work if you could

1575
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:23,199
put a nice scope on it. Right, that's like a

1576
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:29,359
AR fifteen from what I understand from my limited firearm knowledge. Uh,

1577
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,039
they're like the be all rifle. They're just like the

1578
01:20:33,159 --> 01:20:35,720
general multi tool rifle. Right you can you can use

1579
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:40,279
them for hunting. They just you know, uh, you can

1580
01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:44,680
also use some brother terrible ship too. But uh, but uh,

1581
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,840
you know, when I was getting or because for killing pigs,

1582
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:53,039
AR fifteen's or that'll work. That's good. I mean, I'm

1583
01:20:53,079 --> 01:20:57,439
sure like pro hunters could recommend a better rifle, like

1584
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,720
a more accurate long range but but the but they

1585
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,880
work for me, They work for me. And again, this

1586
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,199
pig thing was like completely new to me until a

1587
01:21:07,239 --> 01:21:09,239
few years ago until I realized the damage they do.

1588
01:21:11,359 --> 01:21:15,760
Mammalarias spherica especially is basically wiped out from the land.

1589
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,560
It's a it's a really cool clumping cactus with yellow spines,

1590
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,359
and it forms heads just like peyote, but it doesn't

1591
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,520
and it forms a big tap root just like paeoti,

1592
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,159
but it doesn't have that all the alkaloids in it.

1593
01:21:27,319 --> 01:21:29,640
So it's you know, because the pigs will destroy payoti,

1594
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,399
but they'll they'll uproot it and kind of take a

1595
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,039
bite and realize it tastes bad and then leave it.

1596
01:21:34,119 --> 01:21:38,399
But the Mammalaria spherica they've just totally destroyed. And it's

1597
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,840
such a it's such a wonderful species, man, especially when

1598
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,199
it's lit up, you know, when it's blooming like big

1599
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,760
yellow flowers the size of golf balls, and it'll be

1600
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,439
covering the whole thing. You can't even see the tubercles

1601
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,880
of the plant. Some of them get some of the

1602
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,039
clumps I've seen get upwards of like a summer foot across.

1603
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,039
But nobody grows it. That's an nothing. Nobody grows. You know.

1604
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:04,880
You could have such dope native cactus gardens down here,

1605
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,880
but nobody even like the cactus and succulent people down here.

1606
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,000
They don't grow. They don't really grow. Many of the natives.

1607
01:22:12,079 --> 01:22:15,039
Maybe you'll see a horse crippler homolo cephalith text on it,

1608
01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:17,760
but you don't see any of the Rio grand Rio

1609
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,039
Grand valley barrows like Hamado cactus hamatacanthus, which has both

1610
01:22:22,079 --> 01:22:24,720
an East uh you know, or South Texas and West

1611
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,359
Texas ecotype. The West Texas ecotype looks totally wild, totally different,

1612
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:36,079
much longer were curved spines. But uh, you know, you

1613
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,800
like the there's cactus nurseries around they all sell like

1614
01:22:39,159 --> 01:22:42,039
South American stuff. It's so bizarre. There's just everywhere you

1615
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:44,520
go in the world there's such a hesitancy to embrace

1616
01:22:45,319 --> 01:22:48,600
the natives, which is for me that's so interesting. Like

1617
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,239
I don't watch something that evolved in Uruguay. Is if

1618
01:22:51,279 --> 01:22:53,119
I lived in Uruguay, I would want that. That's cool,

1619
01:22:53,159 --> 01:22:55,640
there's a context there. What the fuck am I going

1620
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,119
to do with it here? Right? Not only is it

1621
01:22:58,359 --> 01:23:02,520
probably not the best adapted for here because it didn't

1622
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,960
evolve here, but I want the shit that's native. I

1623
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,840
want context, you know, that's that's really about what all

1624
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,439
of what it is. And I talk about that in

1625
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,840
concrete botany. I want the context for this place that's

1626
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,720
specific to this place. I want the plants that were

1627
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,239
made by this place, by this region. And there's so

1628
01:23:18,359 --> 01:23:21,520
many cool ones here. You know. The Coraphantha macro maris

1629
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:26,840
roun yonii. That's another one nobody grows. Absolutely. You could

1630
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,319
find mounds of that four feet across and when they

1631
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,079
when they bloom, they're just fucking lit up. It's so

1632
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:36,119
so crazy, man. So But I've got a little native

1633
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:38,840
cactus garden in my front yard. It's a lot of

1634
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:44,399
hamato Cactus astrophytum, a kindo serious postselgarai. The pencil cactus

1635
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,880
that I've grown from seed, you know, the one that

1636
01:23:46,039 --> 01:23:49,119
like blends in camouflages itself. With the white stems of

1637
01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:51,479
shrubs that it grows up through. You can get five

1638
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,840
feet tall. We got an individual at thorn scrub that's

1639
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,399
a four four, it's like five feet a five foot tall,

1640
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,600
a kindo serious postselgraai. That whole clade they used to

1641
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,880
call will will Coxia, that whole evolutionary group they used

1642
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,720
to call will Coxia. They're like the diameter of a straw,

1643
01:24:08,399 --> 01:24:10,039
But then they can get five feet tall, and they

1644
01:24:10,119 --> 01:24:12,720
just kind of grow up scantily, like leaning on shrubs

1645
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,720
and ship and then when they bloom, it's you won't

1646
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,479
know it's there. That's the coolest thing is you won't

1647
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,439
you won't see these things. You'll you'll it'll be next

1648
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,079
to a path you walk by daily, and you won't

1649
01:24:22,119 --> 01:24:24,560
know it's there until it blooms, and then suddenly you're like,

1650
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,600
holy shit that you realize how good it camouflages itself

1651
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:32,199
in It's the same thing with like aerocarpis and astrophyt

1652
01:24:32,279 --> 01:24:36,479
them as well. So you gotta you gotta grow these things,

1653
01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:39,479
especially if you live down here or just you know,

1654
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,319
if you live in Texas in general. Right, and there's

1655
01:24:42,359 --> 01:24:45,920
a whole cast of cool Mojave native cacti I used

1656
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,479
to be obsessed with when I was doing work out there,

1657
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,079
you know, the Mojave Desert. And of course Arizona has

1658
01:24:51,119 --> 01:24:54,560
got its own shit ton of cool native cacti, But

1659
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,800
you want the stuff that's got the got some context anyway,

1660
01:24:59,239 --> 01:25:01,319
you could probably Well, I sound like I'm on kludes

1661
01:25:01,359 --> 01:25:03,800
right now because of this flu or this virus, whatever

1662
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,039
the fuck it is. So I'm gonna relax. I just

1663
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:10,680
made Jack some hot dogs, and uh, motherfucker won't take

1664
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,039
his guy. I saw he had a he had a

1665
01:25:12,119 --> 01:25:13,840
flea on him the other day, which he's you know,

1666
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,279
I don't know where he picked it up, because I'm

1667
01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:19,119
normally good about that, but I didn't. He's not taking

1668
01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:21,000
his trifexus now, so I got to figure out a

1669
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,920
way to you know, sneak it to his ass. I'm

1670
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,680
gonna be such a mess when he goes, you know,

1671
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:32,479
just just crying, right, just crying a bunch, just bawling.

1672
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,600
I'm going to Ecuador in two days for this this

1673
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,159
tour we're having down there, getting paid to beat a

1674
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:45,560
plant guy and then and then hopefully teach some plant

1675
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,479
id and uh then I'll be back. I'm going. I'm

1676
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,039
gonna be in Saint Louis around February twenty eighth. I

1677
01:25:52,159 --> 01:25:55,079
forget who I'm speaking with? What is it? What am

1678
01:25:55,079 --> 01:25:56,840
I speaking for? What is it? I forget what the

1679
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,680
thing was? I wish I could tell you, but let

1680
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,920
me look up. Okay, here it is Partners for Native Landscaping, Saturday,

1681
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,039
February twenty eighth, eight am to noon. It's a workshop

1682
01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:10,840
and uh oh, they're having a tour and a plant sale.

1683
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,840
A plant sale on the twenty eighth of February and

1684
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:17,640
Saint Louis. It sounds very chilly still the uh what

1685
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,600
the hell is it? Oh? For more information and registration

1686
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:27,720
www dot b T dot L Y Bitley b T

1687
01:26:28,319 --> 01:26:32,479
period L Y Forward Slash twenty twenty six p NL

1688
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,359
Workshop Partners for Native Landscaping p and L Workshop. I

1689
01:26:37,399 --> 01:26:39,399
guess I'm speaking there, and then I'm gonna be at

1690
01:26:39,399 --> 01:26:42,039
the Carnavorus Plant Society thing in North Carolina in May,

1691
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:44,039
and then I'm gonna be at the Aeroid Society thing

1692
01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:47,239
in September. So come out to one of those if

1693
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:50,199
you want to shoot the shit and listen to me

1694
01:26:50,359 --> 01:26:53,319
rant so oh yeah. And then if you could pre

1695
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,319
order my book, if you're interested in that, I think

1696
01:26:55,359 --> 01:26:58,199
you'll I think you'll enjoy it. Right, it's going to

1697
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:03,359
be audiobook two. Just recorded the audiobook, uh so two

1698
01:27:03,399 --> 01:27:07,640
weeks ago. It'll be uh Genie dot U s g

1699
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,479
E N I g N I dot us Forward slash

1700
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,760
Concrete Botany And uh, you can order they're try I

1701
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,880
guess they're trying to pump up ordered on Scamazon if

1702
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:18,199
you want. I don't give a shit it doesn't matter.

1703
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,399
There are these people that lecture you if you get

1704
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,840
if you like, buy one thing on Scamazon. You're not

1705
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,439
buying a car on it. You're not giving them that

1706
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,359
much money. It's a fucking book, right. They're like the

1707
01:27:27,399 --> 01:27:29,439
same people that lecture you if you if you like

1708
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,319
ask deep seek AI a question to like summarize a

1709
01:27:33,359 --> 01:27:35,119
paper for you because you don't have time to read it. Right,

1710
01:27:35,119 --> 01:27:38,680
it's always the same fucking I gotta stuff, you know,

1711
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,000
it's but it's like a trend. It's like a performative thing. Right.

1712
01:27:42,039 --> 01:27:44,840
There's reasons to use AI and reasons not to use AI,

1713
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,159
and you're not going to save the world by not

1714
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,039
reading it. Don't be a lazy schmuck and use it

1715
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:52,319
for stupid stuff when you could just use a search option.

1716
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,439
But people turn these things into religions and they just

1717
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,439
get they and then they start moralizing and you know,

1718
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:02,359
morally talking down to people, and it's just so fucking annoying, Like,

1719
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,199
I how how how do people on the on on

1720
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,920
that particular side of the political I mean they do

1721
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,840
every left and right to it, but especially the left

1722
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,239
does this. And this is something that moving forward, if

1723
01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:16,680
you ever want to get get rid of fashion. Left

1724
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,560
is going to have to get over this. And you know,

1725
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,960
instead of finding like the ways to be as annoying

1726
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,600
as possible about things right, because there's there's there's some

1727
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,079
people that are just they're just going to shut down

1728
01:28:27,119 --> 01:28:29,479
the minute you pull that shit right. I've had to

1729
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,960
learn code switching for certain things, right, and I can't.

1730
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,000
Why can't the others? It's fucking crazy. Yeah, some guy

1731
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:40,960
lectured because I during when I was looking up how

1732
01:28:41,039 --> 01:28:44,920
long it takes a uh uh a slab of asphalt

1733
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,079
at six inches deep to cool from one hundred and

1734
01:28:47,159 --> 01:28:50,279
forty five degrees fahrenheit, I asked deep sea because I

1735
01:28:50,279 --> 01:28:52,520
didn't want to fucking I don't know physics to that

1736
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:53,920
extent that I don't want to didn't want to do

1737
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,079
the maths like I just wondered. So I had deep

1738
01:28:56,119 --> 01:28:59,359
Seak look it up for me, and this guy, you know,

1739
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,800
knew that I did it, some guy online, you know.

1740
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,239
And it's, of course, it's like a white dude with

1741
01:29:03,279 --> 01:29:06,279
a mask on a fucking mask selfie Jesus Christ. And

1742
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,119
there's reasons to wear a mask. There's race, I get it,

1743
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:11,479
but like for a fucking selfie, at what point is

1744
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:16,600
it just obviously performative, you know, to your specific peer

1745
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,840
group and so, and then he said some comment like

1746
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,479
I'm really disappointed to see that you use you use

1747
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,319
a shit the fuck up? Spar Spur met this. Okay, Spur,

1748
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,399
talk to your shrink. Why do you feel the need

1749
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,640
to do that? Ask your shrink? Why do I feel

1750
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:30,800
the need to do this? Why do I feel the

1751
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,319
need to talk down to people? You know, It's like

1752
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:35,800
you can't there's no I don't know what you hope

1753
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,760
to get by talking to me like that. But now

1754
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:39,319
I'm just gonna tell you to go fuck yourself and

1755
01:29:39,399 --> 01:29:41,520
really not listening. Now I'm gonna now I want to

1756
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,600
use AI. I'm gonna ask it to make me a

1757
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,720
fucking picture of a cartoon dog, you know, wearing a

1758
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,800
sailor hat and you know, waving around a three foot

1759
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:54,000
long dildo on a cane, just just for you. God

1760
01:29:54,119 --> 01:29:55,920
damn it. It's like the same thing that's what people

1761
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,319
always shitting on vegans, right, Okay, It's not enough to

1762
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,159
just be like, yeah, I'm not gonna die of a

1763
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,920
cholesterol of a heart disease like so many people will.

1764
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,359
And I'm just gonna keep that to myself and be

1765
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,840
they gotta like they gotta like ruin it. They have

1766
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,680
to be an asshole and just like the most obnoxious,

1767
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,880
lecturing cunt about it. I don't I don't understand. Why

1768
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:17,399
where does it come from? Do you just not interact

1769
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,239
with normal working class people to realize that, like, that's

1770
01:30:21,319 --> 01:30:23,479
just not a nice way to be like that pisses

1771
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,560
people off. It's just shitty. You just seem like a snap. Anyway,

1772
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,680
I'm sorry, I'm right again, I'm right. Think I gotta

1773
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,319
take this up with my shrink. Have a g rest

1774
01:30:30,359 --> 01:30:32,479
of your day. Hope you enjoyed that, and uh yeah,

1775
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,760
check out the book if you feel like it, and

1776
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,840
please kill your lawn and convince your neighbors to kill

1777
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,800
her law and talk to you about Wala and tell her,

1778
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,359
you know, nature's pretty cool, actually not everything, you know.

1779
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,960
We gotta how about the native plants? Right, the stuff,

1780
01:30:47,079 --> 01:30:51,159
the the you know, cultivar marigolds and a pot look nice,

1781
01:30:51,159 --> 01:30:52,800
But what about some of the natives? What do they do?

1782
01:30:53,079 --> 01:30:55,880
What's get her? Get her to embrace some more holistic

1783
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,880
view of the living world. Anyway, that's I got have

1784
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,560
a rest to day. Go fuck yourself by and convince

1785
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,239
people to stop doing it. Concrete backyard thing. It's not good.

1786
01:31:03,279 --> 01:31:04,760
It's not good for you. Okay, that's all. I gotta go.

1787
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:05,319
Fucus it by