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Speaker 1: Everybody, you were Welcome back to Challenge. The podcast is

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all about the challenge. I'm Brian sitting in his bedroom.

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Speaker 2: Big Orguste team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and uh sitting in her living room, still doing

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arts and crafts.

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Speaker 2: Continue, okay and all right and hey, everybody ahead every

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new Challenge dot com jo on the Facebook group. That

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was that three guys, yep, all right and move on.

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Speaker 1: Tim has had a few dreams.

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Speaker 3: If you are playing along.

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Speaker 4: With us at home, he has. We're on episode three

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and he's been buddy the first one.

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Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, I told you, guys, I warned you. I

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thought somebody would join me. But I guess not. I

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guess it's just me. All right, guys, Well episode three.

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This one's called Hanging Tough. This aired on June twelfth,

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two thousand and six, but as you guys know, it's

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not June twelfth, two thousand and six, so we have

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to go back there in our minds. That was so

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off perfect. That was great. Yes, Yeah, top TV shows

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they're the same. Two and a half men, YadA, YadA.

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The top movie though, was Cars. Any of the parents

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in the audience give a shit about that? No, I've

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seen that movie all right us number one song also

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still Hips Don't Lie, same song. But the notable event

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of this is the United States Senate began debates on

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whether we should have a constitutional amendment to ban same

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sex marriage.

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Speaker 4: Guys, people are assholes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as recently as two thousand and six. It's weird.

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It's one of those things that we think, now, oh,

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gay people can get married, like that's done. That's a

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done deal. It's not. It was very recent. Yeah, it

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happened very recently that they were allowed to and it

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could be taken away instantly if guys like theo Von

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get his way from this episode. Thank you very much.

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All right, are we back in two thousand and six?

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Has in our minds?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we are in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: That means it's time for Zach tell us another cults.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh yeah, Zach tell me about how you got

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out of your cult.

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Speaker 1: Did people have to wash other people's clothes?

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Speaker 2: That's a very different question. Can you answer both in

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the same time.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember how we did the clothes washing, if

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we had our individ individually, if we did it as

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Speaker 4: How long were you in this question?

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Speaker 5: Like about a year, year and a half okay, but yeah,

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so how I got kicked out I kind of talked

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about on the first one we got kicked out.

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Speaker 2: You didn't leave, you got kicked out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got kicked out.

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Speaker 3: Because I feel like most cults you're not allowed to

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be kicked out of. They just want to keep you

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until the end of light, until the end of your life.

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Speaker 4: And you being kicked out as you have been killed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my of cults too, KARLN.

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Speaker 5: I think why they did those, Like I said, they

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you know, they would present themselves it's like we're here

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to help people get back on their feet, you know,

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like come stay with us for a while, you know,

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save up money, and then like move out and get

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your own place. But they would really make you like reliant.

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they came there were like, you know, just lost their

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home or they were homeless or other reasons like that,

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and they didn't have a strong support system where and

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only did I have a vehicle there. I was like

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one of the only ones. But my mom, even though

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we weren't living together, we had a very good relationship

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and she's a very strong support So I never got

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to the point where I was like fully reliant on

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them and like kind of able for them to control me.

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they're just like, if we haven't broken by now, we're

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Speaker 3: I'm so surprised that they like that they were even

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willing to like take someone that they like, I don't

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know where they also knew that person's family and that

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person's family was not and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It just.

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Speaker 3: It's so wild, so wild, Zach, how are we only

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knowing about only just like finding out about this and laundry?

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Speaker 2: You really have no recollection of laundry? Did you take

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your laundry back to your mom's or did you do it?

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if we like if we had like one of the

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house duties was to do everyone's laundry, or if we

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just went down when it time into individually.

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Speaker 2: So this is Alaska. Were there were there times that

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like get snowed or whatever that you were like on

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that property for like months at a time and I

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couldn't leave for weeks or anything.

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Speaker 5: No, we never got that heavy of snow. But once

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I do remember that really annoyed me, you know, kind

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of crown touched about, you know, having someone there that

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they knew the family of because Jackie and Jan worked

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with my mom and they were such good friends. I

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remember whenever we did wood cutting, everyone would use chainsaws,

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but they were worried about me cutting my leg off

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of the chainsaw because they knew my mom. So I

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was allowed to use the chance i'd use a manual act.

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Speaker 2: Wow, an ac could also chop your leg off though,

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just if they were unaware.

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Speaker 5: They stay for that chainsaw. They thought, I don't know,

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but I can handle chainsaw, right, all right?

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Speaker 2: Guess well, are we back in two thousand and six

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in our minds?

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Speaker 4: Yes, we are back in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 2: All right. Uh this episode is episode three. It's called

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Hanging Tough, Tough Little Backstreet Boys reference into that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sam, how embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love I love the Baxtrat Boys or not

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Backstreet Boys, new kids on.

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Speaker 1: The block, kids on the I don't know.

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Speaker 4: What my neighbors are doing. I'm sorry. There's lots of

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noise in the background.

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Speaker 2: For me, sounds cool, Carlin, were you and the new

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kids on the block, you were just a child, You

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were like a kindergartener.

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Speaker 4: I was never a new kids on the Block fan.

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Speaker 3: I was an in Sync and backstre boys and also something,

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But new kids in the block were never really my jam.

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Speaker 2: This I think was the time of like that era,

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right two thousand and six. Was that when like in

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sync and shit was big?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that was in Sync and all that was

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big and like the.

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Speaker 4: Late nineteen ninety eight, ninety.

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Speaker 3: Nine, early two thousands, okay, like elementary and junior high.

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Speaker 2: He's doing he's researching it.

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Speaker 4: I was junior high when they were really big.

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Speaker 2: All right. So this episode starts off with Derek and

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DM there talking and walking and having a little chat

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about DM's cancer, right.

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Speaker 3: And pulling at the heart strings. I'd forgotten that she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is real tough to watch, especially like we

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know how her whole story, you know, ends, and that's

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hard and Derek is like the worst person for her

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to be talking to about this. I don't like watching

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him try to navigate this either. Overall, real tough conversation.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that he was the worst person to

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Speaker 3: I thought that, I mean, he did a pretty good

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job of like trying to to comfort her and like understand.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just like he's just such a blow hard guy.

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I just don't take what he says seriously. And I

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don't know, I just I just didn't.

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Speaker 3: Feel like though he was a little bit less of

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a blow hard than he is nowadays.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's maybe it's this episode. Yeah, I just

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know how he is in real life and I'm not

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Speaker 4: Whoa robot?

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Speaker 2: Man? What did I did I robot?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were roboting out ship in my back.

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Speaker 2: Not really, I'll turn my camera off into that. I'll hope.

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All right, Well, I hope you guys can hear me. Hello, Hello, okay, good,

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Speaker 3: Well the shooty Internet.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's been fine so far. Maybe it's

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just my internet is not a fan of these long episodes,

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which I don't blame it.

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Speaker 5: I do think Derek was not the best person to

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tell because kind of his reaction was, you know, we

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see later in the episod of him being like, ever

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since she told me like this she has cancer, I

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just find her so physically attractive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a little weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a weird guy. All right. Well, after that

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little conversation, we get Evan reading a clue from TJ,

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and we get Jesse, who is Johanna's partner who I

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hate every time he's on screen. I just hate this guy.

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He's worried because he's paired with Austin. So as we're

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talking about how these Austin people are targeted, we're not

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really talking about their partners who are also unfortunately targeted

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through this. But it is a concern, I guess. And coral,

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of course is as Adamant is always about just kicking

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more Austin people out. That's just what she wants to do.

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I have about a third of the notes as I

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had in the last episode, So this will be a

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quick one. This episode or this challenge is called hang on. Guys,

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this is a really complicated challenge, Zach, you want to

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break it down for.

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Speaker 5: Us, Yeah, So you have one partner that's hanging upside

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down by their legs, and then they got hold on,

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and then their partner will hold onto each other by

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the hands and wrists as they dangle above water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. About as simple a game as you can imagine.

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You just hang on, that's it.

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some of these people just could not even do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how fun it was for me to watch,

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Speaker 4: Necessarily fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: It was just funny to watch like people immediately dropping

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Some people try to come up with strategies, like Johnny

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did a one arm strategy with Tanya, which is just

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sort of like, I don't know if that changed anything.

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did it, not the one arm thing. Yeah, but whatever. Really,

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the only strategy here is picking the order of the teams,

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which Coral and Evan get to do. So they of

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course put Austin first, and they have some strategy about

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putting weak people next to week people to get them

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more comfortable to like fall off faster. I don't know

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if any of this matters, but I guess you you

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Speaker 3: I actually I thought that was a pretty smart thing

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for them to do, because I think it's I think

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they're somewhat correct and like if you're if the person

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that you're going against drops, then you're gonna have that

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immediate false sense of security of like, oh well I'm

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already more than them, so I'm on mad. Like I

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just I could see it kind of psychologically being a

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thing that would make people think like, oh, I'm good,

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I can drop now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well let's say. I mean it worked for him.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: What I thought was interesting is after we see uh,

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a bunch of questions about like dear arms of him

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of who what of Evan?

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Speaker 4: Evan like, come on, dude.

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think that this is a new like I think this

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is another way that Wes changed the game, because I

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think earlier than this, people would be nice to each

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other and be like, oh yeah, let me try to

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tell you about this. Wes are just for like fuck off, terue,

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like I'm not gonna help you win. That seems to

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be like a new attitude. Am I misremembering West's place

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in this game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe I just don't remember them being

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that much nicer in previous seasons. But I just I

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looked at this in the lens of like the seasons now,

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like you would absolutely not go up to the person

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that you won just voted into, because Evan and Coral

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were the ones who voted him into the xile last time.

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You just voted this guy in there, and on top

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of that, you just put him first, like of course

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he's not gonna tell you shit, like come on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was kind of fun. I liked it.

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I like West being an asshole.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is where West being an asshole is totally valid.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was two first timers, right, this is

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Wes's first season. Yeah yeah, yeah, him and Evan don't

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really have anything to like compare it against. And Evan's

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just like, so, I mean, is it easier? He's just like, oh,

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let me get a piece of paper and write out

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all the ways for you to beat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Evan just looked like a dog who was confused, like

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turned his head like what I know?

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 3: I did find it really fun, like his Evan's reaction

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to it was like, wait, I don't understand why you

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why you're not.

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Speaker 4: Telling me these things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I think there's been a lot of talk in

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the past, and when they did these Fresh Meat seasons,

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the vast majority of the people they brought on this

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Fresh Meat were not fans of the show. They were

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just attractive, good looking people they like recruited off the streets.

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So I'm sure Evan, you know, i'd never seen the

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show before. I didn't really know what was going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but still, I mean, at this point in time,

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this is there now third challenge, and you've been living

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in the house with these people for a week.

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Speaker 2: Like Carly needed it wrong once you once you dropped

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the yabbits, still you just you just stopped.

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Speaker 4: Did someone say yab it still?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You said yeah it still, and then you just

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kept going, Oh did I really? You don't need to

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keep going like we get it? You know, yeah it still? Yeah,

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it's over.

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Speaker 6: Anyone's catched that right away, I said it, Lord, Yeah,

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all right.

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Speaker 2: So this I have a note about Johnny and Tanya

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do the one arm method. I don't know, that doesn't

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seem like it matters. Shaded Lynette do much better than

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I think anybody imagined. And this is the first kind

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of time we see Shane at all a focus of anything.

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He like talks to the camera and says something and

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he's on TV for a second. And it's weird to me,

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how like he looks the same, he acts very different

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right Like in this he's still sort of is like

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the quiet gay guy who's just sort of like timid

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and you know, wants to be friends with everybody. These days,

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he's like a villain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he's necessarily he acts necessarily different.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just that he's quiet.

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Speaker 3: In all of these seasons, Like this is before he

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finds his voice, before he's comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Being but when he's not quiet, he's nice. And now

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he's like, no, he's not. He's a dick. He's a

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totally villain guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a dick if you're someone like Johnny Bananas or

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someone who's not on his part.

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Speaker 2: Shane Shane Shane.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I got to text about my other more important podcast.

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Speaker 3: But I think we have tattoos, sir, we are the

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most important.

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Speaker 1: Shane has been a little bit more of a villain

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last couple seasons. Maybe I think I sided with him

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in the Shane Devon fiasco this past season. But I

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do feel like he's been a little bit more of

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a villain. But then there's those chances, those times when

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Shane's like, oh, I'll fucking I'll fucking fight you with

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my helmet on and then goes his hair growing helmet

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on and comes back out and you're like, Okay, I

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love this guy. I can't I can't be mad at it. Yeah,

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he just sees he's a little bit more meek though

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in this season.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. He's not afraid of confrontation.

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Now he does. Yeah, he like instigates and challenge and

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back then he just sort of took whatever people had

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and he tried to smile and be nice to people.

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Speaker 5: And I think I think he always had that a

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hole in him because at the end after the credits,

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like before we get the post credits team, we have

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advertisements for like an online after show, and they'll just

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show you a little clip to try and get you

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go watch it. And after episode two they showed that

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Shane was on and the little clip they showed was

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Shane on the host if you wanted me to hook

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up with someone in the house. You gotta give me

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someone attractive, not that loser Ryan or that FN closet

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case who we don't know who's talking about. You have

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to watch the whole after know who's going. So it

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seems like Shane's always been a bit of an a

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hole since the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Was Blair the host of that after show?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Blair was the host?

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Speaker 2: Uh Blair? Good for Blair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm telling you some of the ship that they

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said back then, like this was not that long ago,

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but goddamn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh well here Evan and co. They win this

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one again, which is you know, that's a lot of

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wins for them, and sort of.

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Speaker 1: Talk about putting a target on your back Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of try to undo it a little

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the next episode, but for this episode, yeah, they're still

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trying to figure it out. I guess.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And they pick for the first exile team Melinda and Ryan.

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Why wouldn't they go Wes and Casey again? Guys? Any ideas?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because I feel like we're looking at

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it through sort of a modern take on the show. Yeah,

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and once you say someone's name, you're just like, well,

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that's going to be my target. It's all they're gone

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because you don't want to piss anybody else in the

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house off. So it is a little it is interesting

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to look back and see that people weren't always thinking

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about sort of that aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only reason why I could see

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them picking Melinda, and maybe they talk about it in

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the show, but Melinda and her partner are just they're

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a little bit easier to go for because her significant other,

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Danny is no longer there, So like there there might

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be I'm wondering if they thought that maybe there will

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be a little bit less backlash even from the Austin cast,

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and a little bit less pushback because Melinda doesn't have

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her significant other there, She's.

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Speaker 1: Going to try a little less.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the.

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Speaker 1: Which does play into the next episode.

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Speaker 5: I think. I think it's that, you know, I think

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we see Evan and Coral talk a few times over

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these four episodes about, you know, like, well, we don't

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want to anyone off, we don't want to make enemies.

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So I think back then, kind of like Tim was saying,

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you know, with West having statude, I think they still

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might have been a little bit more kumbaya and so

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they're like, well, West one in last time won. But

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also I think the fact that there was still three

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awesome teams, they're like, all right, well we don't care, like,

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let's throw the girls in this time, because at the

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end of the day, like you know, we're all we're

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gonna take them all out back to back, that's the goal.

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So if we give him a week off, you know,

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we'll get him the next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of my thought too, Zach, because I

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wonder if it was a little bit more like, you know,

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like postseason, they could say like, well, yeah, we threw

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you in once, but then we threw in these other people,

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like we didn't just focus on you, And these days

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I don't think they give a shit. They're just like, yeah,

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I'm just gonna focus on you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nowadays it's You're right, Zach, it's definitely a they

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were trying to kind of they were still in the

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old school way of playing this game, because yeah, nowadays,

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it's definitely a it doesn't fucking matter.

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Speaker 4: Like I went for you last time, I'm going for

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you again. This time.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go for you until you were no longer here,

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and then I'm gonna pick a new target.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Well, In Wes and Casey speaking of this throwing in

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the Austin people, Wes and Casey sort of think that

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the plan is to throw in Johanna and Jesse against

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Melinda and Ryan. That way they still get on an

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Austin person. But Wes of course doesn't like that plan

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because he does not want Johanna to go home or

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go in there. So he convinces Casey to throw themselves

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in if they think it's gonna look, if they think

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it's gonna be Johannah, he wants to volunteer themselves. Casey

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agrees to this remarkably.

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Speaker 4: Such a dumb move. Yep.

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Speaker 2: And again maybe that's the same Ana or say before,

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But like, why why is Casey okay with this when

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nowadays like nobody would be okay with this? Is it?

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Is it the same answers we just had with the

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other question?

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Speaker 5: I think? So he say, like, if I had a

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boyfriend here, like I would want to do the same

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thing for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just such a dumb move.

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Speaker 1: Though It's too bad if it means anywhere in this situation,

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I'd be like, I'll see you at home.

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Speaker 2: Right A few weeks away like it's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 3: Did you watch the Animals when the way that like Joanna,

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especially the way that she reacts to just everything, just

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oh my god, I'm so sad, Like it's like someone

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is dying. It's like Wes is dying if he goes in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we still see that today. Even it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I mean true.

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Speaker 1: But Tina though, it's talking about like I got one

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bitch over here crying, I got another boyfriend's throwing I'm

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tired of all his boyfriend.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I gotta feel like I remember, like I remember

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you know about you know, Coral and Tina and Ronk,

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I mean, like the mean girls back in the day.

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But watching this guy, I'm like, oh I forgot. Just's

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how like ruthless Tina was back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's interesting.

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Speaker 1: She's a fun one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Johanna's crying blah blah blah. It's club night, guys.

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Speaker 3: That's when they were still going out to real bars.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was a real bar with like other people there,

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crazy having a throwing some shrimp on the barbie, having

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some fosters. Well, Carl, you should know a lot about

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this environment there in throwing boomerangs. What else are they

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doing down there? All the Australia shit? Uh good day.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Dem talks about staying positive, being strong, she can do anything.

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And we see Derek kind of cuddling up at the

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bar here a little holding hands, a little something something, guys,

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and that's where the episode ends.

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Speaker 1: This is where Cindy was looking at it. She was

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just like, what about a horse? And then she just

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left the roof. What she's like? I know, back in

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the day road rules, Uh, real world, they were all

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horse It's all right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were all hooking up with each other.

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Speaker 2: Slut shaming.

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Speaker 5: So Durrell it challenged mania yesterday told story about fresh meat.

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I think this was the night that happened because he

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talked about it is when they're out at the bar

476
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and I'm guessing to go out again, but so it

477
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might be different. One one of you guys remember ever

478
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hearing and talking about this. He said that like him

479
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and Derek snuck out the bar and just like took

480
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off for three days on a Molly crib. And he

481
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talked about like how Derek had a friend from high school.

482
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There was like a fort exchanged him that came for

483
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a year and they got a hold of the guy

484
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and they went to his house to do molly, and

485
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he lived in an apartment complex. They but the guy's

486
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guy's key so they can get in, So they climbed

487
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up in the window, broke into someone else's apartment to

488
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go through their apartment out into the hallway game into

489
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this guy's place. And the guy woke up while they're

490
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breaking through the apartment and to scream at them, and

491
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they're just like, it's it's fine, it's fine, Like we're

492
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just leaving, and then they shut up, like three three

493
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,599
days later and they're like, yeah, we're locked out of

494
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the Challenge. Ouse we had to climb the fence to

495
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get back in.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was back in the days of the Challenge

497
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where they didn't really have like they weren't locked or

498
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locked in. They still had the had some like ability

499
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to go out of the house.

500
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Speaker 2: And like this is back when like.

501
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Speaker 3: Some of the stories that Mark is told and all

502
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that sort of it's funny hearing this sort of thing

503
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because that ship would never fly now days.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird how you can see there's like in

505
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a lot of this they're sort of making it up

506
00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:50,720
as they go you know it. It's this is still

507
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sort of early early days.

508
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Speaker 3: We have these people in this like it's not quite

509
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as old school as you know when like Pucking those

510
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,359
and those guys were there, but it's still it's kind

511
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of crazy wild some of the shit they.

512
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Speaker 4: Were doing back then.

513
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Speaker 5: Mark and Drawer talked about they'd go these like you know,

514
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these bars with all the public people there, and a

515
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,559
lot of the cast members would just like go home

516
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with random locals and like spend the night, sleep with them,

517
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and then just like wander back to the house the

518
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next morning.

519
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nuts.

520
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Speaker 1: That would have been your opportunity to dang.

521
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Speaker 2: I missed it just by twenty years or so. Damn uh.

522
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,079
Well that's it. We leave on sort of like a

523
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will they won't they with Derek and Diam. But we've

524
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seen Diam sort of like I think she's just sort

525
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of like this type of person, like a sort of

526
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it's like an open, flirty person that does this stuff.

527
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We see her dancing on Johnny. I don't know if

528
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it's this episode or another one, but I don't know.

529
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:44,759
I don't know if she sees much in Derek, but

530
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I guess we'll see us.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's always she's always kind of had that very

532
00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:52,799
flirtatious personality. Yeah, it's also really weird seeing her and

533
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,599
Derek get like flirty because in my head she will

534
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,920
forever She and c t will forever be the thing,

535
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and so it's it's weird.

536
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: Yep, well that's it, guess that's the episode.

537
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 5: That's post credit scene.

538
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: Sorry.

539
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,559
Speaker 5: So we start with they're all staying around outside and

540
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:16,839
they're discussing what type of body shape does Tina have?

541
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,759
And they're like, would you be like chubby? Are you curvaceous?

542
00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:22,160
Like what'd you call it? She's like, I just have

543
00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:25,039
one curve and it's just like right here in my belly.

544
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,720
And then corals like, I don't have any curves, except

545
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:32,480
I do have big boobs. They're probably like ten pounds each,

546
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,799
but like, do you really think it's ten pounds? She's

547
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:37,440
like no, probably like two pounds each. And then Katie

548
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,440
the flowless things. Katie's like, yes, it's like a chihuahua

549
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,200
in each hand, except I can't fuck a dog.

550
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Speaker 2: Wow.

551
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,759
Speaker 1: That sounds like Katy from when we met her.

552
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Speaker 2: Though.

553
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great, especially if she'd had some drinks.

554
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: Because Katie is a tiny human being.

555
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,079
Speaker 2: Yes, Katie's great. Who's who's in that picture? Is that Katie?

556
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,319
Between me and you Wolf were like these gigantic mountain

557
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,480
men and she's like this, like barely five foot We're

558
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:16,079
just we're corals boobs and that picture. I won't say

559
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:16,680
what Katie is.

560
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Speaker 1: At least you didn't have to hold her up like

561
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:30,759
you did. Not God, everybody ever challenge pot dot com

562
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join the Facebook group. You can also join our patreon

563
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tim What do they get when they join?

564
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Speaker 2: They get years and years of after shows, pre shows,

565
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all sorts of bonus content. For this flashback season. You

566
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get the episodes released in batches so you can listen ahead.

567
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,759
You can listen to me get Drunker in real time,

568
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:49,880
which is always fun for people. Actually to the discord

569
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,079
that I don't reply to, but I will. I'm gonna

570
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,720
get back into that, I promise everybody, and I'm not.

571
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I'm gonna try to. I'm gonna make it an effort to.

572
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Speaker 5: The discord. If you want to see them, go check

573
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,400
them out there.

574
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: Carly needs to take a picture of what she's working

575
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960
on and posting the discord so that people can go

576
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,759
see it. It's been showing it off for the past couple.

577
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,079
Speaker 2: Episodes to the nobody in the chat.

578
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Speaker 5: Room, and you know, if you joined the discord, if

579
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,759
I can find a good photo of it, because I

580
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,920
says kind of buried back in the woods, I will

581
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post a picture of the Colt House if I can

582
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find a good photo.

583
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Speaker 2: I want to see it. I need to see it. Yeah,

584
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,960
I need to see it. But we also say your name,

585
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,519
So thank you to Elena, Alvin and I, Caroline, Christopher,

586
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Cindy had Watered, Emily, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jackeline, Jamie, Jamie, Julia, Maverick, Patty, Peter, Rolding, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah,

587
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:40,200
Scott Shack shake our smiling jack stand and.

588
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Speaker 3: So thanks, thanks guys everyone.

589
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: We love all of you except one.

590
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Speaker 5: You know who you are.

591
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,279
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's episode three, Fresh Meat down wonder

592
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:57,160
go for this recording session?

593
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Speaker 5: When did when did you meet Mommy events?

594
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: A couple years it was it was Challenge Radio, wasn't

595
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,640
it West was there right, Wes?

596
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:14,799
Speaker 2: And we was there one of the events, Brad Brad.

597
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 5: There If it was the West one, then yeah, that

598
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:18,359
that was the Challenge Media event.

599
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we yeah, we went to the thing and

600
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:28,160
then uh. We met Michelle Factory, and then we went

601
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,400
to the pac Man themed bar next door.

602
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:32,839
Speaker 5: I forgot that Nan was there.

603
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,839
Speaker 1: Nanny was so drunk that Tim had to hold her

604
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,680
up just to take a picture with her. Great and

605
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,440
then Westcott or Tim got a hug from Wes when

606
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,160
we saw each other at the bar. And Wes is

607
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,559
a lot shorter than you would think.

608
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: The all a lot shorter than most people would think.

609
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,799
Speaker 1: I just feel like everybody I see in TV is

610
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:56,400
my height, and then I get there and they're like

611
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:58,799
five five, and it was like, what the fun Like?

612
00:27:58,799 --> 00:27:59,279
Speaker 4: Even C T.

613
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:01,319
Speaker 3: C T one of those guys that, like you would

614
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:05,240
think he's this huge beast of a person because all

615
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:06,920
of these other guys he was I don't even think

616
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,680
he was your height.

617
00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,519
Speaker 4: I think he was like maybe six foot one.

618
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would still destroy all four.

619
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's no there's no competition there.

620
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: All four of us at the same time jumped on him.

621
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,200
He'd be like, I'm gonna kill you.

622
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 2: I remember, dude. It was shocking. The first ground Guy

623
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,319
event that we went to, remember, Zach was there, Big

624
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,079
big Zach and like he's on the show, He's this

625
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,920
mountain He's a huge, huge human. And I walked past

626
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,720
him and it's like he's like an inch taller than me,

627
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,680
and like his shoulders are more broad, you know. But

628
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240
it's like he's like he's like he's not that big

629
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,319
mindset Kyle.

630
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,079
Speaker 1: Kyle was was very tall though.

631
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, yesterday West told me to go fuck myself.

632
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,559
Speaker 2: Nice?

633
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:50,359
Speaker 1: Nice?

634
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: Well then you record where did you tell you.

635
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: To Challenge Mania?

636
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: Oh you were at Challenge Madia yesterday.

637
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: I love.

638
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, he got the discord all the photos. Yeah. I

639
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,000
was like second in line to get to him and

640
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:07,039
Scott on Michones like, everyone, let's start a West Champ

641
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:10,039
West West. I was bananas bananas and West said go

642
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:11,160
fuck yourself.

643
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:18,519
Speaker 1: Rightfully. So yep, totally all right, everybody, Thanks for hanging

644
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,440
out with us for another episode, Stay tuned for episode four.

645
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:24,680
For this episode of Challenge has been Brian.

646
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Speaker 5: Carl in San Diego, Zachu banana

647
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Speaker 1: And I guess, as Katie said, but I can't fuck

648
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a dog.

