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super Bowl Champion NFL VET. We got Brady Papinga on
the line to break down this BYU Texas Tech match up,
this game. This uh uh, this steam rolling of the
Kuges from over the weekend. Be pop how you living?
Speaker 1: Always always a challenge, but always worth it. So we're
all right there, man, you body and.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm okay.
Speaker 3: Look, I kind of felt deep down in my bosom
that this is going to be a loss of stuff
to win on the road, versus that I think they
were a top five team in the country and they
were healthy.
Speaker 2: Uh for the most part.
Speaker 3: I know barn Morton had a little bit of a
stress reaction, but he was still slinging it just wasn't
as mobile as he was maybe prior to the injury.
But all things considered, they were pretty gosh dang healthy.
They were at home. They have an elite defense, that's
a top five football team, and BYU they got dumped.
Speaker 2: They really didn't win in a whole lot of ways.
I was.
Speaker 3: I was overall pressed with the defense. I thought they
had a good showing. Special teams struggled, as did the offense.
What happened in this game from your purview, well.
Speaker 1: So you have two teams that are equally as talented,
Cause you go look at the film, I can tell
you this. Our defensive line did not get moved, pope.
We had blowback resetting the line of scrimmage consistently. They
couldn't run the ball inside. As a matter of fact,
their big runs were on the edges, which has been
a weakness of ours as of late. We completely diced
up their pass protection. I mean we've sacked the quarterback
how many times in the first couple of quarters, you know,
I mean they just had no answer for us. You
know up front. Now, our defensive backs, man, they generally
played really well, but they were our Achilles Hill in
this game. You know EJ started out with what he
thought I think was a guaranteed pick, and to me,
that was the play of the game, quite frankly, Like
if he picks that ball off, he's in the flat,
you guys, which plan talking right his third and long
we're dropping at a drop eight, yeah, deep cover three
and he he's drop it back into that like kind
of like seek corner position, and the quarterback just kind
of throws it up and hej just kind of casually
fading away like ooh, I'm gonna look sweet. And then
you get the Texas tech player who just plucks the
ball there and then he runs another I think thirty
yards and then ultimately sets up a touchdown, which is
the fate of the end zone. The number five on
tree Alexander, and again number five is good. They got guys,
you know, then we got guys too. I think that's
what I think a lot of BYU fans are not
used to yet. Look, you don't always lose because there's
a talent discrepancy. I think for BYU's history, we've always
had a talent discrepancy. Been until now we don't have
a talent description. I hope everybody understands that we got
just as good as players as they do. It can
down the execution. That's one example. The obvious ones that
everybody knows about are the muff punts, the muff punt,
the miss punt, the missfield goal, the fumble, the two
interceptions or is it two fumbles, whatever, it was one interception,
two fumbles. You know everybody's talking about that, when in
reality it's those plays like EJ not making that interception,
or even Trey Alexander later in the game had a
baggle right through his hands. Those are game changing, momentum
changing plays. And then from an offensive perspective, I personally
felt that we over respected their head dressers. I felt
that we kept a lot of max protection batch chipping
tight ends in way too much. And we'll see if
you know, that changes if we get a chance to
play them again. And then on top of it, we're
just not executing the small things. You know, bear misses
that read auction play. I think everybody nasked the TV
saw that third and three, he needs to pull back.
He runs private five six yards, that drive keeps going.
But guess what happens after that? We go out. We
missed a fifty one yard field goal. So all those
things when you played good teams. Now when it balances out,
meaning you got tit for tap the same caliber of playmakers,
which we do with Texas Tech. Now and I said
this last week, it comes to it becomes an execution game.
Who executes the cleanus And as I mean, you could
very clearly see from how we played versus how Texas
Tech played, they absolutely executed the cleaners. And that's why
they want. Now he rewind back a couple of weeks.
They go to Arizona State and guess what they do
pretty much the same thing what we just did to them.
They didn't execute. They had some rough outings, and they
get beat, you know, on the road at a tough
place to play down in Tempe, Arizona. So this isn't abnormal,
This isn't some It should not be a shock to
the system. I think you said it well, Ben, like
this is a tough place to play. You don't go
into games expecting to lose, but you for surely go
into games being realistic about who your opponent is and
what the situation is. And absolutely that was going into
a lion's den into one of the most adverse tough places.
I think any team in the country could walk into.
I don't care if you're Ohio State, I don't care
if you're Indiana. That is a tough place to go into,
just like it will be on Lavell's. You know, this
Saturday level, it's gonna be a tough place to come into.
And that's just what it is, and that's what you have,
and that's what happens when you play high level football.
You're gonna face teams that are just as talented. And
then it comes down to an execution game. And we've
done a good job over the year, Like Utah, I
thought it was a great example of that. It was
an execution game. We had guys, they had guys, and
we executed better than they did and we won the game.
Arizona I thought was the same way from the start
to the finish. And in defensive Aaron Roddick, by the way,
with his his you know, I thought being overly conservative
with their edge guys, they were playing it that way too.
They were like, hey, we're going in an adverse situation.
We need to keep this thing close. We don't want
to put bear overly exposed to these edge rushers and he's,
you know, all of a sudden, the crowd's going crazy.
These head dressers are popping off the snap of the
ball because we're going on the silent count. He's you know,
Bears getting blindside fumbles, and then the crowd even starts
to go with more crazy Bears. Confidence starts, you get
what I'm saying. So there's there are situational things too
that dictate that you are going to be over conservative
because what you want to have the game you want
to go if there was help from special teams, which
by the way, that was the killer of our whole
team of special teams. You know, if the special teams
are rolling, all of a sudden, everything else gets set
up better filled position, everybody's feeling a little bit more energetic,
more confident. And then you have this game where it's
you're going back and forth, back and forth, and then
you hope to make that last play to win the game.
And that's or I do believe, you know, the coaching
staff was. They were thinking that's what they were hoping for.
That's why we weren't just completely letting you know, Bear
go crazy. We were we were keeping things tight, kind
of conservative playing to our defense, which defense, like you said,
played phenomenally except for a few big plays. But outside
of that, if you have your special team struggling like
you do, it's just gonna trickle down to your offense
and all of a sudden, you're going to be, you know,
a game like this where you just you just are
always behind the eight ball. And you have to give
Texas Tech a lot of credit too, because of how
good they were with their pressure and how you knew
you had to play well. That affects your execution sometimes
and so you got to get Texas Tech all the credit.
But at the end of the day, in summary, we
got execute better in all three phases. Starts with special teams,
that's been the foundation, and then have a trickle out
from there. And then obviously, I know, if we get
a chance to play these guys a game, we're going
to the guys again. You're going to see a completely
different game, I believe, in terms of how aggressive we
are and no more to say. We're going to play
this close and then hopefully score one more play than
they do. It's going to be you know, empty the
kitchen scene can go for the goals, so the good
thing is, ladies and gentlemen, I want to just make
sure we all understand this too. This is what it
should be. You should be able to go in, week
in and week out. If you have a little hang
up like we did this week, be able to then improve,
fix what you failed to do, learn from it, and
get better as a team, and still be in position
to have your goals. And guess what the system right
now has, it's where That's exactly where we're at. I'm
gonna tell you this quite frankly, it's hard to beat
a team twice in a year. I've experienced it personally.
I'll tell you that. I know this is a long
ranted answer, but it's going to give you a lot
of good information. When I was in the NFL two
thousand and nine, we played the Arizona Card was the
very last game of the season, and then we played
in the first week in the wild card. Okay, we
destroyed them. And the last week of the season in
Tempe and a whole week leading up to the very
next week where we're going to play them again, we're
studying that film religiously. Oh, this is what it's going
to be. This is what we got to do blah
blah blah. We go out and it was like they
were a completely different team. They had made adjustments, they
had dumb some little tweaks, they had shown some stuff
in the map the playoff game that they didn't have
in the last game that we got. You know, it
ended up going overtime, but we got beat And so
the point is is, like I would prefer, in all
seriousness to go to the championship game if we end
up facing Texas Tech again and having that feeling of, hey,
we have to now learn from our previous and capture
with them, versus man, we beat them, we just got
to do the same thing again, because I do believe
that is false gold, our fools gold.
Speaker 3: So Brady, I've been looking at the numbers, and just
from a scoring margin standpoint, I'm looking at silver linings here,
BLI faced Texas Tech at their home and they lost
by twenty two. It was a pretty dominant twenty two,
though it seemed like they were in the driver's seat
most of the game. It was slow, it was monotonous,
the chasm.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I look at Kansas State, they lost by twenty three.
Utah lost by twenty four. Houston lost by twenty four,
Kansas lost by twenty five, and so like, it's obviously
that Texas Tech is maybe in a league of its own,
and then who's the second best team in the Big twelve?
That's what I think the from an identity standpoint, fans
BYU fans are struggling with that. They're wondering, Hey, are
we truly the second best team in the Big twelve?
Speaker 2: How do you see it?
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you get to play it out. And
that's why I love about the system, and that's what
is beautiful about actually putting it on the field because
a lot of things that happen right now in terms
of how we're evaluating talent is coming from the past
ranking systems, whether it's the A people, whether it's you know,
the BCS system or the latest you know, rendition of
the playoff even before this one, to where you're you're
having a committee, they get together, they evaluate, you know,
what's the strongest win? Was a win is a win
and a loss of a loss. And guess what you
don't you don't get two losses for every win if
you score over twenty points. Texas Tech is as vulnerable.
Look I don't like I think when I one thing
that I felt at the beginning of the game, and
absolutely Texas Tech controlled the game. But the one thing
I felt was is upfront, we can control these guys.
Now they're defensive front, interiorly wise, man, they controlled us.
I mean they collapsed the pocket. I don't know how
many times. But there's answers for that, you know, And
so I look at it more as this is top
nuts football to even the match teams. I think we're
just as good as Texas Tech. I like to be
able to go prove that. But we have to go
out on the field and we have to do what
we've been doing all year, which is executed. So my
answer directly to you is if we execute and we
continue to play at the same energy, tenacity, competitive spirit
that they played against Texas Tech. And I mean because
I just I really wish we could do a coach
a show and I could show you plays of our
defensive front just eviscerating, chopping up this supposed unbelievable offense.
I mean just three cent in the line of scrimmage,
blowing dues off the ball, throwing dues to the ground,
and just nowhere to go also plays where you got
glass or diving on the you know, just selling out
dive and throwing his body around Sam with Jack. I mean,
these guys were healthy as they've been all year, and
they played as good as we've expected them to play,
and so and even our offensive line, they were out
there blocking their tails off and moving these big defensive
tackles that Texas Tech has and they were doing a
good job that. Unfortunately, I think LJ is still a
little bit deemed up. I think that's very evident. He's
not very comfortable really hitting it up in there, hitting
the whole hard. And I think that's a big thing
that we're we missed in that game, is that interior
zone running slash, pin and pull play runner to really
pounded defense. Because the difference is literally in two or
three yards. People don't realize that a third and four
is a very especially with our propensivey. Going for our
fourth to down is very different than third and six,
very different play call third and six plus generally it's conservative,
let's just get out of this, pump the ball move.
If it's third or four or third and six, you know,
we may be trying to get more a few more
yards to go short down, the short fourth down. If
it's third to four, the whole playlig is open. And
if you've got a guy that can jam it up
in there and at least fall foward for three guys.
So what we're playing again for the next down, I'm
probably getting that down and all of a sudden, now
we get into rhythm. We didn't have that inside running presence,
so we're we were constantly in third and six plus,
which changes our whole mentality offensively. And so when you
look at these details, it's like, I'm excited, Like I
believe we can go into a game, and we just
got to get to the championship game, but we can
go in there and we can beat these guys. Now,
are we going to have to play like the best
game of the year? Yeah? Is that just tech awesome? Yeah?
Top ten, you know, top five or top five team,
like you said, top four team probably? Yeah. But does
that mean they're unbeatable? No? And I do think we're
right there with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was just I'm taking into account all these all
these you know, the information I had before me, and
I'm wondering, Okay, what progress can be made in the
next three weeks and you got to take one game
at a time. TCU right Cincinnati on the road and
then UCF at home. But if BYU wins out, they'll
face the same team. And what do you do game
plan wise?
Speaker 2: Differently? You've mentioned a few of those.
Speaker 3: Do you think a rod changes his game plan going
into the if we get him again in the championship
championship game, do you think he changes the game plan?
Speaker 2: And so which way? In what ways?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the biggest thing in this goes you know,
I know we're talking for weeks fromn hour or so,
but this is very pertinent to this week and the
progress of our team. Is we regardless of what roder does,
because Proderick is gonna, I mean, he knows what he's doing.
The guy's master. I'm not even questioning him. And I
completely understand why he was very concerned with those addresses.
They are game records. They can turn the game to
a disaster real quick and real quick, and it already
turned that way. But it wasn't the fence's faults, more specitives.
So I get that. But what we have to do
first foremost is we have to get back to having
a very physical, interior run threat. Somebody that can just
jam it. Like I said, somebody can jam it up
in there, fall forward for two three yards at the
very least, you know, pressing Rex. But it's the soul.
I mean, he's he tries to run hard, but due
ways one hundred ninety five pounds. Okay. He's a good
edge guy, you know, good screens gadget guy of the backfield.
I really like him on the edges. He does a
nice job. He's tough, he's physical. Uh, he's you know,
he tries hard for his size, but he just does
not have the power to just hit the hole and
just fall forward for a few yards and keep us
on time with the change.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So we got to find somebody there, you know, whether
it's LJ or whether we start certainly, I mean, I
don't know. Maybe he's look at it to my back.
He worked out without Jeer.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Maybe we look at Alfred number thirty. We're like, hey, bro,
can he run his inside downe play? I'm just I'm
being facesis I'm joking. We got I'm telling you we
got some guys at the running back position. It's just
going to be interesting to see if they see it.
You know, talk about Roderick and the offense staff the
same way. Who's there and you know who's available to
give them that threat, because I do believe that they
can get that threat that gets us back to our
identity as LJ is coming back, because one thing that's
going to be very different. As long as LJ has
no setbacks, he's gonna be feeling really good in about
four weeks versus right now. And again I don't know
what his injury is, but I do know that if
he's playing, it's one of those injuries that you can
kind of just nurse it through your playing time and
hopefully as there's as long as there's no setbacks, it
gets better and better. It's kind of like what Jack
was going through. And Jack looked like his old self
this week. The same with Alaska, and I'm anticipating we'll
get something like that of LJ. And that is the
difference maker, ladies and gentlemen. I mean, when LJA that
first snap, he popped through that hole like a freaking
you know, like you shot out of a cannon. That's
what we need. And so that's that's pretty much it.
I mean, it's not all this isn't hard. Now, our
receiver's got to catch the ball, you know what I'm saying,
Like o JoJo's dropping that pass. You know, even Chase
on that that long you know, go through when he's
diving the balls in his hands. You know, those those
are the catches that we got to make. And when
we do and we make those extra plays, I mean,
that's where offense gets rolling. I mean, and you know
and Bear, that's gonna help him get confidence and get
into his rhythm. And because the dude could throw the ball,
you know. So it's there's there's not wholesale changes that
need to be made. It is small little adjustments, smaller refinements.
And like I said, having that middle middle run threat
there that could pound the ball, get us two three
extra yards just falling forward is going to make a
tremendously huge difference.
Speaker 3: Defensively, Billy managed to hold the Red Raiders offense well
blow their season scoring average, and as I mentioned, the
margin of victory was I guess the smallest outside of
the on the road lost to ASU. But you know what,
what did you like specifically from a personnel standpoint on
the defense side of the ball, that we can highlight.
Speaker 1: Well, I just loved our defensive front, I really do.
If you could put if people see what we did
to their offensive line, that would help you feel very
optimistic about us playing against playing against them again and
doing really well. They could not handle us, guys, They
could not handle us. The plays that they got on
us were bounce plays to number twenty, which is he's
a home run hitting player. Man, that guy gets out
in space. He's ran big runs against every team that
we've you know that they faced all year long, and
we weren't any different. But outside of that, and then
there was another run by number eight where we were
basically had an inside blitz and the edge guy, instead
of boxing it, meaning turning it back into the blitzers,
he spilt it like we normally do where and it
turned out to be I think a twenty thirty yard
game because there's nobody out there spilled to which spilling
means you just you just influenced the runner to keep
going east and west outside, which you know that's an
execution thing that's not getting beat. But I mean, if
you'd seen how we handled all the polos and everything,
it was an absolute mess for their offensive line. So
when you look at our defensive front, how we handled
their offensive line. That is what I'm most excited about
because we we'll get that same performance again because we
got guys. Tell you we got guys. Then you got
to ask yourselfl Kate, can our secondary step up and
make the plays when they're presented to them? Sure number
five is gonna get his you know, he's a good
player's a player, and they got some other guys. But
you ball hitching the hands of the corner. You got
to you gotta pull that in, you know. And if
you're hej you don't fade away from interceptions, you puck
them out of there, You go take them and then
you run them back. And when if you just make
those small adjustments and then our special team shows up,
now we get into the kind of game that I
believe Roderick was expecting, which is keep it close, let's
make one more play. Although, like I said, I think
when we play them again, it's not gonna We're not
going to be as you know, conservatives, you know, just
just kind of filling it out. But the point is
is that's what gets me excited is our front. Every
single week, our front has shown up and controlled the
line of scrimmage. Now we just got to get everything
else around it rolling just at that same level, and
we're going to be in great shape.
Speaker 3: Why do you think Bear Bockmeier struggled to run the
football versus Texas Tech this game? This was maybe his
least effective performance, one of his least effective performance in
running the ball.
Speaker 1: Well, it starts with the fact that they're really good.
Let's remember that on our quarterback draws, these big interior
defensive tackles were just stuffing up the middle. I mean,
we're you know, he's going back to do a quarterback
draw and as he's like doing his fake drop back here,
he has middle pressure and then he's got to like
kind of adjust around that, and all of a sudden,
there's another guy right there, and then he's just around that,
and all of a sudden, by that time, the defense
has already realized this is a draw and they're reacting.
The backers are coming up and it's there's no space.
So there's there's ways to handle that. There's a lot
of ways to handle those big guys doing that to
where they just completely destroy a lot of your quarterback
running plays. The big one though, that I felt could
have got him into more rhythm. Was that Reid options
the first part of game on third and three. I
mean that had a lot of space to go. I mean,
I bet you get, like I said, games ten yards
and like anything, when you get into that rhythm and
get in that flow. And even as a defense, when
you get gas like that from a read option, you
tend to respect that a little bit more. You tend
to have that be in the back of your head.
That slightly opens up other things, you know, the read
option to even the pass all of a sudden becomes
a little bit more dangerous because now you're you're overplaying
maybe or just giving a little bit more tent to
the second respect to the quarterback pulling it. And then
that that can maybe open up a little window or
a little bigger window for your receivers. So it's a
combination of things. But the first thing is text check
is really good, and we didn't handle their inside pressure
as well as we could have.
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do we know about TCU? What are your biggest concerns
heading into TCU week?
Speaker 1: Well, so, TCU, you know I did a study on
him last night. They got a heck of a thrower.
Quarterback is a heck of a thrower. You can throw
the ball over the field. We're gonna see simple. You know,
the very familiar air raid offense that Buyu has made
famous and then has gone and all these different iterations.
And now you have with Sunny Dykes and his crew,
which they Sunny Dikes likes to run a spread, air raid,
power running offense. So he has a real physical runner.
He plays very downhill, which plays into our strengths. You know,
he's not a guy like number twenty where he's gonna
bounce it and you know, get you for you know,
fifty yard game. This guy wants to run between the
tackles and just wear you out. And then they compliment
that with their quick passing game. And you know, and
their quarterback who could throw the ball. Quarterbacks not overly mobile.
He's an average moving movement guy, but his arm more
that makes up for because he's accurate. He throws the
ball on time. He's got a quick release. Their offensive
line is a big and physical you know, they don't
move the best. They got big, kind of bigger, heavy feet.
Kind of reminds me of Arizona's offensive line, so you
can it's kind of like Arizona's offense a little bit.
But but I don't think they have as much speed.
I think they'll build more on power. And then they
got a big wide receiver, number one man, and he's
he's a big game breaker. He's not an overly explosive
guy like number five, but he's physical, possession kind of
guy that can like pretty much you just throw the
ball up in a radius that's reasonable around him and
he's usually comes up with it. So they got a
good offense. You know, we got to be ready to roll,
you know, got to bring our lunch pail again and
be ready to play a really physical, tough game against
these guys and shut that shut that run down and
keep them in predictable passing situations where I don't think
their offensive line can block us. If we can get
into predictable passing situations with all of our blitz configurations,
with our speed and our rush ability and our coverage ability,
I think that'll work. To our advantage. But we've got
to put them in predictable passing situations and it's gonna
be tough because that quarterback can throw the ball, he
throws it on time and in addition to having a
power running game.
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