Speaker 1: We'll head to New Orleans on Sunday as the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles go to battle Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine. Of course, Kansas City looking for the
Speaker 1: first ever three p in the Super Bowl era, the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles looking for rematch success over the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Porter Larsen Tony Parks filling in for Spence on this
Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, and we'll start the afternoon talking some football
Speaker 1: with Won Thor Nystrom. We'll talk some Super Bowl, we'll
Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl. We'll go all over the
Speaker 1: map with our guy Thor. K you on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: of course you can find him on this station during
Speaker 1: the football season every once in a while. Thor, thanks
Speaker 1: for hopping on man. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely good to be with you boys.
Speaker 1: Let's start in New Orleans. Let's head down there for
Speaker 1: the big matchup Kansas City Philadelphia. It felt a lot
Speaker 1: of the year like this was maybe a matchup we were.
Speaker 1: We were headed towards store. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people tried to talk themselves and me included into Josh
Speaker 1: Allen or Lamar Jackson being able to dethrone one Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes On the AFC side, the Eagles spent a lot
Speaker 1: of the year the betting favorite. On the NFC side,
Speaker 1: was this kind of what you expected coming into the
Speaker 1: year or how did that materialize as you watched this
Speaker 1: season come along? Did you feel as a collision course,
Speaker 1: are you surprised that we sit here in February looking
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs and the Eagles once again?
Speaker 2: There was a certain inevitability to it. It felt like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's you know it teams sport, right, so
Speaker 2: like you're like, well, it probably won't happen, right, like
Speaker 2: just because of the random variance, But yeah, like this
Speaker 2: is the matchup that we expected. So it's not a
Speaker 2: surprise whatsoever that we have And much of the chagrin
Speaker 2: at the viewing public.
Speaker 3: I've always liked the NFL had no team go undefeated
Speaker 3: once the schedule expanded to sixteen games. Now it's seventeen.
Speaker 3: No team's ever been able to repeat.
Speaker 2: And once you.
Speaker 3: Start working in the industry it could be a little
Speaker 3: bit different. I understand this, but were you the guy
Speaker 3: to root for or against history kind of as you
Speaker 3: look at what a team could possibly achieve on Sunday.
Speaker 2: No I'm I definitely root for History, Like I'm cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, hey, as long as we have to
Speaker 2: have this matchup, you know what I mean, Like I'm
Speaker 2: a Viking fan, you know, like I would take one.
Speaker 2: I'd take a Super Bowl appearance in my lifetime frankly
Speaker 2: at this point. So it's you know, but like, as
Speaker 2: long as as you know, we have purchased a ticket
Speaker 2: for this ride, so as long as we have to
Speaker 2: be on it on Sunday, yeah, I might be rooting
Speaker 2: for History.
Speaker 1: Tony and I were talking about this a little bit
Speaker 1: as the show opened up. Is Kansas City's ability now
Speaker 1: to win a little bit differently than we've seen now.
Speaker 1: They still have the ability to do the high flying,
Speaker 1: flashy stuff that we're used to from from Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: but what you're seeing now is a little more efficient
Speaker 1: creative play calling, leaning on your defense when you need to,
Speaker 1: and of course Steve Spagnol on the other side, is
Speaker 1: helping with a lot of that. How have you watched
Speaker 1: the evolution of the Kansas City Chiefs and how they've
Speaker 1: been able to tweak certain things while still keeping the
Speaker 1: core of what made them a Super Bowl contender intact?
Speaker 2: It's a fascinating progression because, as you boys recall, when
Speaker 2: they drafted an unknown project quarterback out of Lubbock, Texas
Speaker 2: named Patrick Mahomes, the book on him initially was this
Speaker 2: is a ross swashbuckler who all he's ever going to
Speaker 2: want to do is just chuck the ball down. Feel
Speaker 2: you're never gonna be able to teach him how to
Speaker 2: do the rest of this stuff. And the NFL once
Speaker 2: Mahomes initially was succeeding, they're like, yeah, we're going to
Speaker 2: take away the explosive plays and then you're not gonna
Speaker 2: have your Superman cape anymore. And his game evolved. The
Speaker 2: Chiefs as a team have evolved as well. And there's
Speaker 2: not one player that you can, you know, like, of
Speaker 2: his weapons, any of them. You take them away, They're
Speaker 2: able to go to other things. Right, It's not a
Speaker 2: team that just beats you down the field. It's not
Speaker 2: a team that just beats you with efficiency or with
Speaker 2: one concept or one player. They are able to beat
Speaker 2: you in a million different ways. You get into a shootout, great,
Speaker 2: you want to do a low scoring game, great, we
Speaker 2: can beat you literally whatever way that you want to
Speaker 2: come in here and play we're going to beat you
Speaker 2: at your own game. And so the evolution of that
Speaker 2: has been cool. And I think their quarterback Patrick Mahomes is,
Speaker 2: you know, an example of that. He's just a small
Speaker 2: one of the grains of sand on that beat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kill him by one point. That's kind of been
Speaker 3: the model of this team if they need it to
Speaker 3: be that way. In my opinion, Steve Spagnola was the
Speaker 3: MVP of the Super Bowl last year, and I think
Speaker 3: one of the biggest variables in this game Sunday, those
Speaker 3: timely pressures like he had, you know, against Houston, the
Speaker 3: timely pressures he's had in these championship runs to win
Speaker 3: some key downs, minimize some damage, and keep the odds
Speaker 3: in Kansas City's favor. How big of a variable do
Speaker 3: you see him playing in this game with Philadelphia needing
Speaker 3: to get cash instead of coins on some of their
Speaker 3: more productive drives.
Speaker 2: Utterly enormous And your your point is well taken. Like
Speaker 2: his his special gift is like he understands at this level,
Speaker 2: you know, the the the the every little small thing,
Speaker 2: throwing a timing off of a concept of the opponent
Speaker 2: by even a fraction of a second. It you know
Speaker 2: it improves your odds so much to turn what could
Speaker 2: be a positive player, even an explosive play, into either
Speaker 2: a zero or a you know, like whatever, you flip
Speaker 2: the odds so much just by can we get a
Speaker 2: brief millisecond of confusion or can we speed up the
Speaker 2: process just a little bit. He's really really good at
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. And obviously it starts to juice,
Speaker 2: you know, juice the odds on a given play, and
Speaker 2: then over the ocean of the players that make up
Speaker 2: a game. That's how you start to see some of
Speaker 2: these different things swing. He's also really good I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the game in game out situational stuff. There's
Speaker 2: some coaches where it's just like this is my system
Speaker 2: and it's like you guys are going to you know,
Speaker 2: figure it out, like you're going to do my system.
Speaker 2: But I feel like he puts every individual player into,
Speaker 2: you know, the spots for them to succeed, but then
Speaker 2: also opponents specific you know, there's going to be all
Speaker 2: sorts of exotic coverage looks, exotic blitzas that are designed
Speaker 2: merely just for the paradigm of the game that they
Speaker 2: are in. Jalen Hurts and the way that the Eagles
Speaker 2: play offensive football, So it's it's one of those things
Speaker 2: where it's like the chess match. The game within the
Speaker 2: game is going to be just as entertaining as the game,
Speaker 2: and hopefully just as entertaining as the halftime show and
Speaker 2: the commercials as well.
Speaker 1: Thor when you look at obviously you mentioned the chess
Speaker 1: match that we're going to see when it comes to
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, when it comes to Spagnola, when it comes
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia side, the play calling is always going
Speaker 1: to be creative. It's always going to you know, you're
Speaker 1: going to see, as you mentioned, some exotic looks, you're
Speaker 1: going to see. I sometimes I don't even like to
Speaker 1: call it trick plays when it's it's designed and run
Speaker 1: often and and so well, like Kansas City and Philadelphia
Speaker 1: does you know a lot of the times they're more
Speaker 1: misdirection plays than they are trick plays, and they're really
Speaker 1: good at those. But when you look at the x's
Speaker 1: and o's the chess game, you're going to see, how
Speaker 1: do you see the big picture of this game playing out?
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is time of possession.
Speaker 1: How do you see the the you know, Andy Reid
Speaker 1: going at this game, you know, maybe trying to maximize
Speaker 1: possessions while Philadelphia on the other side trying to hit
Speaker 1: them hard with a heavy dose of Barkley and Hurts
Speaker 1: and trying to minimize the possessions that the Kansas City
Speaker 1: gets and lean on that to that Philly defense. How
Speaker 1: do you see that playing out between the two teams,
Speaker 1: kind of trying to balance the levels of power there,
Speaker 1: because it's a It's an interesting one to me when
Speaker 1: you look beyond the x's and o's and more the
Speaker 1: big picture strategy of dressing this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had to guess, I would say the
Speaker 2: first quarter, We're not like it. The first quarter is
Speaker 2: going to be like a Flight Mayweather fight. I think
Speaker 2: you're gonna get two animals that are just circling each other,
Speaker 2: and and you know, you're sort of trying to gauge,
Speaker 2: like you know, like I just think you're gonna get
Speaker 2: a conservative ethos. Initially, I don't think the Haymakers are
Speaker 2: gonna start to get tossed until the second half. I
Speaker 2: think initially it's like we cannot turn the ball over,
Speaker 2: and let's go out there and get our feet under
Speaker 2: us and see what what we're up against. Here, But yeah,
Speaker 2: that I would expect a more conservative first quarter and
Speaker 2: then maybe you try to flower up the playbook in
Speaker 2: the second quarter. But I like both of the offenses.
Speaker 2: I don't think you see it start to open up
Speaker 2: until the second half. And that's where I think those
Speaker 2: those offensive play cars are gonna get deep into their
Speaker 2: bag and we're gonna see some interesting things there.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you're one hundred percent right about that,
Speaker 3: because the last time these two teams played, the team
Speaker 3: that scored the more, the most offensive it's actually lost
Speaker 3: the game, which was one of the rare times that's
Speaker 3: ever happened in Super Bowl history. So to your point,
Speaker 3: I could see that happening. Look my opinion on Andy Reid.
Speaker 3: You know, fifteen and twenty years ago, the sports radio
Speaker 3: used to get in arguments with this all the time, friends,
Speaker 3: NFL buddies, stuff like that. I always thought that he
Speaker 3: was wildly over criticized while completely overachieving with some of
Speaker 3: those Philly teams that he had with McNabb. And then
Speaker 3: I thought he was overachieving by maximizing what he could
Speaker 3: get out of Alex Smith, who was a good quarterback.
Speaker 3: But I thought he was I mean, you know you're
Speaker 3: going twelve and four and hosting divisional round playoff games.
Speaker 3: I just didn't think they had the ultimate Super Bowl roster,
Speaker 3: either in Philly or there in case pre Mahomes. Now,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden Hall of fame quarterback, hall of
Speaker 3: fame tight end, and a guy that I think is
Speaker 3: undoubtedly on the rushmore greatest offensive minds, maybe the best
Speaker 3: offensive mind in football. The history of this game now
Speaker 3: is starting to show that historic results exist with that.
Speaker 3: Are you of the belief that you know, Andy Reid
Speaker 3: evolved into this or that he truly had so much
Speaker 3: of this gift and now he has everything that goes
Speaker 3: with it to where it's undoubtable that he stands at
Speaker 3: the top.
Speaker 2: I think, well, first of all, he's He's going to
Speaker 2: go down as one of the best head coaches in
Speaker 2: NFL history. I don't think I'm going out on a
Speaker 2: limb with that. And I think there there's been evolution
Speaker 2: with certain amount of things. But I think he's a prodigy.
Speaker 2: He's a coaching prodigy. He's an offensive mind prodigy. Right
Speaker 2: like in his gift is putting his players into the
Speaker 2: best situation to succeed. But you know, in particular that
Speaker 2: quarterback position and and his game planning that that Andy
Speaker 2: Reid has done and what he's done with the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: over the time, you could say, oh, he got to
Speaker 2: work with a Hall of fame quarterback here, it's a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback that he banged the table that
Speaker 2: his team trade up for. And when they made that selection,
Speaker 2: everyone was like, what are.
Speaker 1: You doing to select him?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why are you taking the who comes from the
Speaker 2: system where no quarterback ever succeeds and you just took
Speaker 2: him over Deshaun Watson, who we saw win national titles
Speaker 2: and beat Alabama and all this sort of stuff, like
Speaker 2: they not only it was the conviction of no, that's
Speaker 2: the guy, and then developing again. People forget this because
Speaker 2: after the fact, now Patrick Mahomes he's you know, he's
Speaker 2: he's you know, football god now and and so nobody
Speaker 2: remembers going back there. But at the time it was like,
Speaker 2: how are you ever going to get this guy to
Speaker 2: stop playing playground ball, stop playing hero Ba? Like this
Speaker 2: is a bridge to nowhere. Andy Reid was the one
Speaker 2: identified that guy, and then you built him up starting
Speaker 2: with the plan initially of you you brought up Alex
Speaker 2: Smith before it's like, yeah, for the first year, we're
Speaker 2: just going to have you learn, right, and then you
Speaker 2: went through with that and they made up again. People
Speaker 2: forget this. It was not a popular, universally accepted decision
Speaker 2: of we're going to trade Alex Smith and opened the
Speaker 2: job up for this guy that most people don't think
Speaker 2: he's going to succeed in the NFL. But Reed did
Speaker 2: all that. He was behind all the development of that
Speaker 2: and then this evolution that we talk about with Mahomes'
Speaker 2: game and the Chiefs offense as a whole, the Chiefs franchise.
Speaker 2: He was the driving force of all of it. So
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, yeah, you look back and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: now he's got all these great players. He was the
Speaker 2: one that developed them all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can't argue with that. Obviously, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of local ties that we're going to get
Speaker 1: to thor with with the Super Bowl, but we'll we'll
Speaker 1: leave that for a different segment. Let's let's try and
Speaker 1: transition over to kind of your specialty, which is on
Speaker 1: the NFL draft side and some of the prospects that
Speaker 1: we saw at the Senior Bowl. There are you know,
Speaker 1: five or six, maybe seven guys if you if you
Speaker 1: want to dive deep into it on the on the
Speaker 1: Utah roster that are receiving looks. Of course, Jalen Royal
Speaker 1: is up at Utah State. We can go down to
Speaker 1: the to the to the BYU side as well, but
Speaker 1: give us a little rundown of what you saw at
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl first on the local side, and then
Speaker 1: we'll maybe get into the very top top prospects on
Speaker 1: your board as well.
Speaker 2: I gotta start with Jalen Royals because I really like
Speaker 2: Jalen Royals. Jalen Royals went into the Senior Ball as
Speaker 2: my number one receiver at the event, and he wasn't
Speaker 2: the best receiver on the field there. You know, there
Speaker 2: was a couple of guys I thought in the one
Speaker 2: on ones were a little bit more impressed, like Jalen
Speaker 2: Noel from Iowa State. Jack Basha course was a big
Speaker 2: story there as well. But Royals, in the context that
Speaker 2: he performed that week, I thought he was extremely impressive.
Speaker 2: And that context was a kid who got knocked out
Speaker 2: for the season in October with a foot injury. He
Speaker 2: was not one hundred percent at Mobile like in Mobile,
Speaker 2: and it was not a certainty that he was going
Speaker 2: to even participate in the event. Weeks or certainly like
Speaker 2: a month beforehand. His rehab it was all designed off.
Speaker 2: I'm getting back active to get in front of the
Speaker 2: NFL improve a point that I belong so, and he
Speaker 2: did as much as he couldn't get ready for was
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent, might have been eighty five ninety percent,
Speaker 2: but he still went out and he performed really, really well.
Speaker 2: His movement is even better than what we saw out there.
Speaker 2: But again, for where he was, he was beating all
Speaker 2: these power forward defensive backs, you know, team drills, the
Speaker 2: one on ones. Not one hundred percent. He's appears to,
Speaker 2: you know, at least with what he was telling us,
Speaker 2: that for the NFL combine, he expects to be you know,
Speaker 2: dang near one hundred percent. So he's going to get
Speaker 2: to go out and show his athleticism. For a kid
Speaker 2: who is as well built as he is, he moves
Speaker 2: around really well. So I'm very interested. I know the
Speaker 2: NFL is very interested to see how he tests. But
Speaker 2: he acquitted himself really well out there. He told me
Speaker 2: that the NFL has been talking to the teams that
Speaker 2: he had talked to initially. Now this is on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: it was in the middle of the Senior Bowl week.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he had more conversations after that, but he
Speaker 2: said most of the teams that he had talked to
Speaker 2: to that point were talking to him as a big
Speaker 2: slot in the NFL, that they saw him as a big,
Speaker 2: sort of fortified efficiency type slot. I know, that's a
Speaker 2: kid who played on the boundary more at Utah State
Speaker 2: the year and a half when he was dominating. He
Speaker 2: does have the experience in the slot as well, so
Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of interesting. But Jalen Row
Speaker 2: is going to start in the NFL for a really
Speaker 2: long time, and I think he's going to be a
Speaker 2: Day two pick in April. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, obviously he's coming out of that Utah State pipeline
Speaker 1: that Devin Tompkins. You can go down the list of
Speaker 1: players that have come out of Utah State, either to
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft or even if they haven't got to
Speaker 1: the next level. We're really really productive at Utah State.
Speaker 1: Kyle Cephalo, the wide receiver coach, a huge huge part
Speaker 1: of that. Now now at Cal after the coaching change
Speaker 1: this offseason. Thor on the Utah side, who's the prospect
Speaker 1: that either from the Senior Bowl or just on the
Speaker 1: class is catching your eye. From the Crimson side the
Speaker 1: Utes roster in twenty twenty five, there's four or five
Speaker 1: guys that, you know, I don't think there's there's gonna
Speaker 1: be any early round picks, but some guys that are
Speaker 1: definitely in the running for NFL draft slots and and
Speaker 1: definitely undrafted free agent market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as far as right, Keithy is interesting,
Speaker 2: although you know, I don't know, uh, you know where
Speaker 2: we're gonna be there.
Speaker 1: It's it's the medical stuff with him, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: just hard to get to read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there wasn't as many youths that were jumping off
Speaker 2: the field there in in Mobile. So yeah, the guy
Speaker 2: for the class though, that I'm I'm interested to see
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, is Land or Barton because I think that
Speaker 2: kid is really really good, you know, for for the
Speaker 2: class as a whole, but as a kid came in
Speaker 2: uh to this season with with round two grades from
Speaker 2: the NFL. So you know, we'll be interested to see that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, not not as many, you know as the
Speaker 2: Utah State kid that was standing out there at Mobile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's kind of the the returns that
Speaker 1: we got here in Salt Lake City. What stands out
Speaker 1: about Lander Bardon? He's obviously he's got the the size,
Speaker 1: kind of a prototypical linebacker in that sense, a lot
Speaker 1: of production, a lot of film at Utah. I will
Speaker 1: say some of his earlier film at Utah might look
Speaker 1: better than some of his late film because of the
Speaker 1: absence of his partner at linebacker, Karennie Reed, who I
Speaker 1: may ask you about as well. But what does stand
Speaker 1: out about about Lander? Of course six four two and
Speaker 1: forty pounds an athletic kid for sure. What stands out
Speaker 1: from his skill set at the next level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a big athletic kid who has versatility.
Speaker 2: You know that you can move him around. He sticks
Speaker 2: with his assignment and coverage he comes down hill. Well,
Speaker 2: it's a versatile skill set and as versatile usage player
Speaker 2: that you can move around you you know, obviously the
Speaker 2: boxed up you can send him off the edge. And
Speaker 2: like I said, I like him running around in coverage
Speaker 2: as well. They're the one thing with him is that
Speaker 2: like and and and it's one thing too unfortunately that
Speaker 2: he can't address in his his pre draft process, because
Speaker 2: it just is what it is. There's an elevated mistackle
Speaker 2: right there, you know, and that's that would be something
Speaker 2: where if I was, you know, like in the team interview,
Speaker 2: is it's something that I would want to talk through
Speaker 2: with him. You know that that's one sort of you know,
Speaker 2: slight concern that I have there. But you know, as
Speaker 2: far as the sort of the toolbox coming in just
Speaker 2: on the surface there, it's obviously NFL caliber all day,
Speaker 2: and then his ability to do all these different things
Speaker 2: on the field and to be effective no matter where
Speaker 2: he's deployed. That that's what I'm interested in. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we we're gonna have to work on that tackling technique.
Speaker 2: Lander just a little bit.
Speaker 3: Who jumped out to you shocked you the most either direction,
Speaker 3: either good or bad with everything in mobile.
Speaker 2: The on the on the negative side, and maybe it's
Speaker 2: not like shock although how bad it was, it was
Speaker 2: a surprise with Jalen Milroe. It's the guy that we
Speaker 2: were hoping, you know, like if this guy has a
Speaker 2: big time pre draft process, this could be Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2: And obviously the things that he had struggled with on
Speaker 2: the field, you know, you got the peaks in the
Speaker 2: valleys with Jaylen Milroe. Some games it looked like he
Speaker 2: should be the first overall pick, and then there's some
Speaker 2: games it looked like this guy shouldn't be playing quarterback again.
Speaker 2: You know, the Oklahoma game would be a great example
Speaker 2: from this past season. And he goes out in Mobile
Speaker 2: and you're hoping you could see the physical tools for sure,
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty five pounds. He's going to run
Speaker 2: in the four threes later this month. He is fabulously
Speaker 2: skilled runner, you know, with all the athleticism in the world.
Speaker 2: And then he has the huge arm. But the week
Speaker 2: starts out with him, you know, the measurements his He
Speaker 2: would have one of the smallest pair of hands to
Speaker 2: ever start in the NFL during the modern era. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 2: there's only been a couple under nine inches in the
Speaker 2: NFL hand side. One of them is Michael Vick and that, essentially,
Speaker 2: I think is his. Is Milroe's skill set as a
Speaker 2: right hand just in terms of the you know, the
Speaker 2: starter kit there. The problem is not refined as a
Speaker 2: thrower at all. Vic wasn't coming out of Virginia Tech,
Speaker 2: but he was more so than Milraw and he saw
Speaker 2: the feel better Milroe. What we saw with him down
Speaker 2: on the field, he was slow through the progressions. He
Speaker 2: was late to get rid of the ball, and so
Speaker 2: he would telegraph where the thing was going. He wanted
Speaker 2: to see the receiver wide open. That's when he'd started
Speaker 2: to throw. Then he would be telegraphing it so the
Speaker 2: players could you know, the defenders, they could get a
Speaker 2: jump on the ball, and then even then the accuracy
Speaker 2: wasn't always true. So it's like, you know, the the
Speaker 2: timing concepts you think about projecting him to the NFL.
Speaker 2: This is why Kaylen Debor got frustrated with him last year.
Speaker 2: It's like he can do things that you can't teach,
Speaker 2: but the things where you keep the defense off of
Speaker 2: your fastball. It's the timing efficiency sort of concepts that
Speaker 2: the general fan, I think just takes for granted. But
Speaker 2: you know, this was something we talked about last spring
Speaker 2: with Caleb Williams because we never saw it at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: We never saw him doing the timing anticipatory things, the
Speaker 2: thing of like you know your tight end, your in
Speaker 2: line tight end. He's gonna run five and a half
Speaker 2: yards up Fiel, He's gonna put his foot in the
Speaker 2: dirt right exactly in this spot. He's gonna cut to
Speaker 2: the left, and you have to throw that ball right
Speaker 2: before he cuts because right when he turns around, that
Speaker 2: ball needs to be on his hands right. We've never
Speaker 2: seen him do it before. We have never seen Jalen
Speaker 2: Milrow do it. And I think Kleen de Boor, I
Speaker 2: think there was a realization of he I don't think
Speaker 2: I can get him there in a year because what
Speaker 2: I was told was Milroe was potentially interested in returning
Speaker 2: to Alabama, and there was a talk after the season,
Speaker 2: and I think Kylen de Boor wanted a pocket passer
Speaker 2: there so and Jayla Milroe didn't want to transfer. So
Speaker 2: that we're here where we are. I'm hopeful that he
Speaker 2: gets an opportunity in the NFL, But if he doesn't
Speaker 2: really turn around the narrative in Indianapolis, he's not a
Speaker 2: first round pick. You could see more than Malik Willis
Speaker 2: thing where it's not a franchise that is going to
Speaker 2: invest in him and then build an offense around him
Speaker 2: like you saw Baltimore Ravens do with Lamar Jackson. Put
Speaker 2: him in a position to succeed, but you fall to.
Speaker 2: In Malik Willis's case, you followed around three and then
Speaker 2: they want you to run the the you know, Ryan
Speaker 2: Tannehill offense with the Titans, and it's like, I'm not
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill. Let me do, let me do Malik Willis things,
Speaker 2: let me do Lamar Jackson things. But you know, he
Speaker 2: was not put in a position to succeed there. That
Speaker 2: is my fear for Jala melal Row. But we still
Speaker 2: have still got a couple of months left to the
Speaker 2: pre draft process, so he still has time, you know,
Speaker 2: to an extent, to turn the narrative around. Well.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great breakdown him too. I think
Speaker 3: it was Brockasweiler in that bowl game they had against
Speaker 3: Michigan this past year. He showed how, you know, the
Speaker 3: sacks were happening or the miscues are happening, but then
Speaker 3: he was also able to show the play that should
Speaker 3: have been there and the decision that should have been made,
Speaker 3: and how explosive plays were in place and he was
Speaker 3: not able to make them. I thought that was glaring,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know if that was a one off
Speaker 3: or just a bowl game situation, But to hear you
Speaker 3: talk about it, it sounds like it was obviously much
Speaker 3: of the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: There's something that's endemic there for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll check back in as to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: wraps up, and of course as the draft process rolls along,
Speaker 1: Thor appreciate your time as always on the way out,
Speaker 1: let's if you're comfortable give us a final score prediction
Speaker 1: for Sunday and let the folks know where they can
Speaker 1: go find your offseason content.
Speaker 2: I will say for Sunday, I'm gonna say I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go lower scoring. I'm gonna I'll say twenty to seventeen cheeers, Okay,
Speaker 2: and then as far as my working find a fantasy light.
Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at thor k you
Speaker 2: and boys. It was always it's always a pleasure to
Speaker 2: talk to you. Excited to talk to you more about
Speaker 2: about these draft prospects as we go for it here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll dive deep into the draft with you a
Speaker 1: little bit later on. Appreciate it, Thor, Appreciate you boys.
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