Speaker 1: Welcome to political Beatdown. I'm been Micellas, joined by Michael Cohen.
We've got a lot to discuss. Let's start at the
top with the breaking news. New York Attorney General Letitia
James wins again, although she didn't have to show up
or really do anything. The Trump regime has yet again
failed to secure an indictment against New York Attorney General
Letitia James. In the past two weeks. They've tried two times.
Remember that the prior indictment was thrown out and dismissed.
Then they tried last week in Norfolk, Virginia, and they
lost there. The grand jury didn't vote to indict and
they rejected the true bill. So then I guess, in
the infinite wisdom of this idiotic Trump doj they go,
all right, we didn't get it in Norfolk, let's go
to Alexandria. Let's try another area. And they got rejected.
In Alexandria, they presented a true bill to the grand
jury regarding allegations of mortgage from the grand jury looked
at it and said, uh uh. They didn't get a
majority of the grand jury. We don't know the full count,
but this was rejected. Yet again, everybody knows the saying
that you can indict a ham sandwich. And the reason
for that expression is that in these grand jury rooms,
there's no judge. Your target of the indictment is not
even in the room. Their lawyers aren't in the room.
So the only people in the room it's the Department
of Justice lawyers and the grand jury. So you develop
that bond with the grand jury because there's no opponent
in the room, really, and you instruct them on the law,
and you present the case, and then you say to them,
all right, we've given you all the law, here are
the facts. Oftentimes you only need like one person to
actually testify. It's like an FBI agent or whoever. And
after hearing this grand jury, can you please sign off
on our indictment? And the grand jury said yet again no,
Michael Cohen, you are You've been a target of this
regime over and over and over again. So I want
to get your.
Speaker 2: Where the hell Where the hell was this grand jury
when these assholes were going ahead and pulling that indictment
bullshit on me? I mean, where with it? You know?
The thing that this administration seems to forget is the
fact that everybody watches television today, or they watch here
a Midas Touch network, or they watch on other independent
news outlets where you're learning about what's going on here.
In terms of Tiss James, she is no longer just
a New York recognizable name. She has now become a
nationwide name. Why because of the mistakes that were made
by this administration's doj by placing Lindsey Halligan at the
head and allowing this to go forward, by her making
the mistakes that she made in terms of obtaining the
first indictment and so on and so forth. Well that
that's the real problem here. So people are saying to themselves, Okay, look,
we already know a lot about this case. We know,
for example, that the entire amount is eighteen thousand dollars.
Do we think that she really messed up? Do we
really want to indict her? Is this not political retribution? Well,
the answer is it probably is. Is she guilty? Did
she make the mistake? Absolutely right, Absolutely there must be
a mistake. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean that you have to indict.
Figure it out, work it out, but don't bring the
court system into this political nonsense. And that's the message
that grand juries are obtaining. But I will just take
one more moment to say what this is doing right
now is so helpful to this process because you heard
Ben turn around and say, in fact, there is an
adage you can indict a ham sandwich. And for all
the reasons that Ben elucidated on, here's the problem for
now these prosecutors. People are looking at these prosecutors now
with cross eyes. They're going to now have to provide
a whole lot more information, I believe, to these grand
juries before which these grand juries come back with that
ninety eight percent acknowledgment of the indictments. And you know
what that's good for the system?
Speaker 1: Well, think about if you're a criminal defense lawyer on
any other case in the country right now, any other case,
take any other topic, not these high profile ones. Your
client is charged with drives, human trafficking, terrorism, You, as
the criminal defense lawyer, go, we know that this DOJ
ride here is out there giving the pardons to his
billionaire friends and attacking his enemies. We know that this
DOJ has zero credibility. You see the posts that they're
making every day. Heck, Donald Trump's out there attacking his
own FBI. This you know the FBI agents that you
saw testify at this trial.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's out there saying that they're the Deep State.
So I want you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury
to think about that when you deliberate. Is that reasonable
doubt right there that the President of the United States
currently is saying his own FBI that testified is the
Deep State out to get him? And you could just
imagine even if the criminal defense lawyer doesn't go that route.
It's now kind of common knowledge to the American people,
not even in a political way of Democrat Republican, in
a way of competence, right especially in these communities Washington,
d C. And Virginia where you have a lot of
indictments in these political cases and adjacent political cases, where
you have grandeurors who know what's happening and they're following
the news.
Speaker 2: They know to your point.
Speaker 1: Code and that this DOJ is bad like not bad
like like incompetent, and that.
Speaker 2: They are I think it's more than just this one
specific DOJ. I think people are now finally understanding that
the entire process has been flawed for a very long time. Now.
I'm not going to turn around and say that this
administration hasn't taken it to the next level. Of course
they have, but this DOJ, this system has been fucked
for a very very long time, and I think people
now are much smarter and they've learned a lot about
the process and most importantly that they can't trust it.
Speaker 1: You know, you have someone like Halligan who in the
grand jury proceedings regarding Komy, we know about that that
case has got has been you know, thrown out, and
they're trying to figure out how to revive it. But
if they can't revive Tis James, they're not going to
be able to revive Comy. And she brought a witness
who was the wrong with right, this FBI agent who
was exposed to attorney client information and whose information was tainted.
Halligan provided incorrect jury instructions about what the law is
regarding the Fifth Amendment. She basically in an hour period
of time, every second in the hour she made some mistake,
Like you could not have done a worse job than
she did, because she got everything wrong, the witness, the instructions,
the actual indictment itself. She went back number of counts,
a number of counts. She had the four persons signed
the wrong document that was never shown to the full
grand jury, and then played it off like it was
the right document. Everything wrong. And then you have the
Attorney General, Pam Bondi jump in and ratify all of
it and say, yeah, this is great, this is great.
And then they put out a statement Todd blanche An
Attorney General Bondy, saying that it's the federal judges that
are to blame right here, and they're being mean to Halligan.
You know, Halligan's still out there.
Speaker 2: Coach Ben, what are they being?
Speaker 1: What do you say?
Speaker 2: What did you what did you say that? They are
they being?
Speaker 1: What what I said mean mean that the judges are
being mean to Halligan. They're they're treating how like why
are you telling her that she can't put her name
on the pleadings? Like why are you doing that? And
it's because she's not the United States Attorney.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the part that makes it even
crazier people don't realize this. Every single form that has
her name attached to it, and what if, what if
we're talking about legitimate criminals, like you know, real criminals.
Anything that has her name on it is tainted now,
which gives the defense attorneys the opportunity to go and
have the entire case dismissed as improperly wrought. Not only
not only Lindsay Halligan, the same holds true for Alena
Habba in New Jersey. I mean you're not talking about
oh yeah, these are the only two cases that they
have their names attached to. No is the US attorney.
Their names are attached to many, many cases, and all
of those cases are now as far as I'm concerned,
if I was there, if I was the client's defense counsel,
I'd be making motions for dismissal based upon the fact
that it was brought in properly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Unfortunately, Alena Habba finally resigned after pretending
to be the United States Attorney for many months after
being disqualified, and now in the Eastern District of Virginia,
you have Halligan out there again. She's saying that she's
the United States Attorney, and she puts her name on
all of the documents as the United States Attorney and all,
and she doesn't like she could just remove her name
and these prosecutions can go forward, like her name doesn't
have to be beyond there, or she can call herself
a different role, but just not the United States Attorney.
But it's like a sociopath. It's like imagine getting fired
from a job, which she is effectively fired from the
job and just continuing to show up. It's like the
George Costanza like Yankees writ and design, right, you know,
it just keeps showing up and pretending that you haven't
been fired, except this is real life. And the federal
judges keep telling the line prosecutors, like the day to
day rank and file prosecutors get her name off and
they're yelling at the prosecutors the other prosecutors, why is
her name on this thing? She's not the United States Attorney.
And then sheepishly all these you know, prosecutors going to go,
we have no choice Main Justice in DC. They're forcing us,
They're forcing us to do this. And then the judge
is like, well, you know you're going to be impacting
these cases, and the prosecutors like there's nothing I can do,
and so yeah, the DOJ right now has zero credibility,
I think in the American people in front of these
federal courts, who are all looking at it this way
major breaking news. Despite Donald Trump's threats, the Indiana State
Senate has rejected the Trump backed jerry mandered map, leaving
the existing map in place. You know, Donald Trump's been
threatening all of those state senators in Indiana if they
voted against him. Then you had the Heritage Foundations Political
Action Committee. They've been posting, you know, we're gonna go
after you in Indiana, We're gonna make you suffer, and
you know, and then Don Junior posted But we just
learned in the past thirty seconds we could report this
major breaking news. Indiana State Senate has rejected the Trump
backed map. Cohen, what's your reaction to that?
Speaker 2: No, not surprised, to be honest. I think everybody right
now is concerned about this entire jerry mander. You do
it when you're required to, which I believe is every
ten years. But these mid mid term jerry manders, especially
the one that I found to be the most the
most grotesque, was the one in Texas where they actually
came out and they said, yeah, we jerry mandered based
upon race, absolutely, and yet they still approved it. You know,
it's very hard for me, you know, to understand that
sort of ideology, that sort of belief system where you're
actually looking to limit an individual's right in terms of
electing their official based upon the color of your skin
or based upon your you know, your ethnic origin. I
just find I really, I really always believed that America
was traveling in the right direction, on the right road.
And we have now, over the course of the last
I would say, seven years, we have absolutely one hundred
percent made a U turn and we're flying down the highway,
literally going the opposite direction. You know what that Thank
goodness for. Thank goodness for you know, for other states
holding it. Thank goodness you know that we were successful
in terms of California, who did it right despite the fact,
you know, I think a lot of the nonsensical back
and forth with the trolling by even government newsom. I
think it's funny as hell, and I think whoever's doing
it for him are clever, But I don't think it
helps our cause at all. You know, these sort of
things they just don't do, they don't. Yeah, we get
a good giggle from it, but this isn't what's going
to get us what we need in twenty twenty six.
And I want to say one more thing about that.
If we are successful like we were, like we were
just yesterday in Miami, Florida, that we have all the
momentum now, don't distract us, which stupidity like putting Trump
and everybody else in a bunch of orange jumpsuits. That's
great during a campaign for him. Look at these numbers
right here. Eileen Higgins beat the living piss out of
Emilio Gonzales right sixty to forty. Sixty to forty, the
first time in thirty years that a Democrat has held
the seat of Miami. And why because it's all about affordability,
It's all about ice, It's all about these failed programs
that are constantly being put out there by people like
Russell Vott or Steven Miller or the lies that are
coming out of this administration. Trust me when I tell
you this is what we should all be talking about.
How we stay active, how we stay informed, how we
keep our foot on the gas and keep just steamrolling
them in just about every election that's going on right now.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just in Miami, right You had in Georgia
a special election for House District one two one where
the Democratic candidate Eric Gissler defeated the MAGA candidate Dutch Guests.
The fourth the Democratic candidate won by two points Cohen
in twenty twenty four. Gissler, the Democratic candidate, ran and
lost by like forty points in twenty twenty four, and
then ran again and won by two points one year
later in that same district. Also that just to be
clear with people, that's a state house district. That's not Congress.
I don't want people to get computers. That's the Georgia
state representative. But that area was jerry mandered as well.
And lots of people are referring to what Trump is
doing as a dummy mander, which is one of the
reasons it was rejected in Indiana. A dummy mander is
kind of like when you have a dummy United States
Attorney like Lindzay Halligan, who doesn't secure these indictments when
you can indict a ham sandwich. But in a jerrymandering sense,
you know, Trump is basing these jerry manders on a
data set from twenty twenty four when Trump basically defrauded
the Hispanic population and young people into believing that he
was going to make things affordable on day one and
make them rich. But now that we've seen massive shifts
among both those cohorts young people and Latino people and
even other groups as well. But you're seeing big ships there,
forty point shifts. So when you do a jerrymander these
ways and you want to get rid of a Democratic seat,
what you ultimately have to do is dilute some safe
Republican seats to try to turn the Democratic seat into
a red seat. So let's just say that there's a
House seat that's a plus twenty two Trump seat, and
you have a blue Democratic seat that's like a plus
five Democratic seat. You may have to bring down that
plus twenty two to say a plus sixteen and then
try to get yourself a seat there in the newly
created district that was a plus five Democrat. But in
doing that, that plus five plus six based on the
current results, that likely turns democratic anyway. And now that
you've brought down a plus twenty two to a plus sixteen,
that's within the margin of what we're seeing the over
performance numbers be for Democrats. So now you may have
actually given Democrats two seats right there. And that's what
and that's why in a lot of these states they're saying, whoa, whoa,
whoa should we be doing it? And to your point Cohen,
what Gavin Newsom, what Governor Newsom did in California was
so important. So it showed it trained these magas to know, Okay, Indiana,
you do that. Guess who's going to do it? Rgin
Virginia is gonna do it.
Speaker 2: But the difference, though, is Newsome actually did it by law,
whereas Texas did not. They didn't run a proposition to
ask people, which is completely and totally different. But here's
the interesting thing also that I want everybody to get
behind and understand. Texas went ahead and jerrymandered with the expectation,
based upon AI polling data from Trump's twenty twenty six campaign,
that if they jerrymander moved this block here or create
that one gigantic district that's over five hundred miles long,
that we will be able to control the votes and
the seats. Well, again, what did yesterday's Miami mayor's race show?
What did New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Minnesota? And so
what have they now shown? No, that's wrong. In fact,
people are concerned when you have a billionaire president turn
around and say things like you don't need to buy
your kid's gift, or maybe you know, at most buy
them two dollars, not twenty. That's easy coming from a
guy who couldn't tell you what the cost of a
gallon of milk is. All right, that's not what the
American people want to hear from their leader. And I'm
gonna be very clear, I wouldn't be surprised, not in
the slightest if many of those gerrymannder districts in Texas
end up flipping. Because here's the thing that you can't
bullshit people on how bad it hurts in their pocket
or what they're unable to pay for their children. They
can't get them new shoes, new pants, they can't get
them a new winter jacket, they can't send them to
school with money, or they can't let the kid go
on a school trip because they don't have the extra
money within which to pay people. Don't forget that crap.
And I'm telling you, when you're dealing with a state
like Texas and there's a lot of poverty in Texas,
you know there's a lot of money there too, but
there's a lot of areas that are poor. And let
me be very clear, when you're hurting who are you blaming,
You ain't gonna blame Joe Biden for this. Nobody's buying
that shit from Trump anymore, all right, they're turning around
and they're saying, it's that guy right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all fun and games with the woke and
saying they're eating the cats and dogs, and you know,
for the right wing propaganda machine, right, that's all whatever
until people say, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm hurting right now
and you're telling me I'm doing good, right, And I
truly wish that people for a second would step out
of their own me, me, me and recognize that it
was coming for them anyway, and that their protection of
other Americans is important because it would come for you regardless,
not just what we should do as Americans. But to
your point, going now, all these Trump voters are like,
wait a minut, wait a minute, wait a minute, I'm
being screwed, and you're telling me that I'm doing great,
and you're telling me that my kids should have less
pencils and dolls from what they're buying in communist China.
Speaker 2: Like in that.
Speaker 1: Statement that Trump made it that weird casino rally that
he held in Pennsylvania at the Mount Airy Casino in
a small wedding banquet. Not only did he tell people
that they should ration pencils and dolls. Right, just so
people are seeing, this is what the venue looked like.
Those seats were filled up to be fair by the
time Trump took the stage. But this was a wedding
banquet venue.
Speaker 2: Oh the way, the number of chairs that were there,
I think abounted to one hundred and eighty. You and
I could fill that place.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know, and I.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't say there were twenty thousand people here. There were
lines down the block from the casino. But not only
does he say that Americans should ration pencils and dolls,
but that in communist China they should have and they
should do better than what exists in them. He said
both in the same statement.
Speaker 1: Let's play this clip from that purely.
Speaker 2: We need the one thing you need.
Speaker 3: You need steal.
Speaker 4: You know, you can give up certain products. You can
give up pencils. Guys. Under the China policy, you know,
every child can get thirty seven pencils.
Speaker 2: They only need one or two.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't need that many.
Speaker 4: But you always need, you always need steal. You don't
need thirty seven dollars for your daughter two or three
is nice, but you don't need thirty seven dollars.
Speaker 2: So we're doing things right, We're And then he tells,
you know what else you don't need? You know what
else you don't need? How about a four hundred million
dollar gift from Cutter in terms of an airplane that's
going to cost the United States government about a billion
two in order to retrofit it. That's what you don't need.
You don't need a three hundred plus million dollar ballroom
that you don't need. You know what people need? Ben
They need health care, all right. They need they need
their snap programs turned back on. They need to be
able to eat and to live, to have heat, electricity,
and so on, be able to live in dignity, not
to be told how many pencils that they should have
or how many dollars that you should be able to
buy your child. Right.
Speaker 1: And then he tells the farmers who he has to
bail out now because his tariffs have so harmed them
that they're being made rich by the bailout from their
bankruptcy because of the tariffs. Here play this clip.
Speaker 4: Some countries played a little cute and we just gave
them right, out of a tariff money coast. There's nothing
right out of the billion, hundreds of billions that we've
taken in. We gave the farmers a little help, twelve
billion dollars, and they are so happy and they all
they want is a level playing field. And now it's happening,
and the tariffs are making them rich. It's gonna be
You're gonna see. You're to see what happens over the
next two years. It's like a miracle is taking place,
but we take it in.
Speaker 2: Oh, praise the Lord, miracles taking place. Donald Trump took
imaginary tariff money and he's now providing a bailout yet
again to our farmers. By the way, I've spoken to
a couple of farmers, all right, I've spoken to a
couple of farmers, and they turn, we don't want to
bail out. We just want to work. We want to
be able to sell our product like we were in
the past, and to make our own money. You know,
they're not They don't want to be considered charity cases.
They work. They're really hard working people, right. I mean
this is generations people don't finish. For example, law school
bend like you, right, and the terrors I say, you
know what, I want to be a corn farmer. Yeah,
that's what I want to do. I want to take
my education and I want to become a farm It's generational.
They love the land. That land has probably been in
their family for hundreds of years, and they want to
keep they want to keep their legacy going. And instead,
what does this putts end up doing? These bunch of idiots,
including the Agricultural Secretary, what do they do? They turn around,
they create that stupid ass tariff right whereby now China,
who bought, for example, all the SOI from our farmers
at market price, are now buying it from yeah, Argentina,
who coincidinkly we happen to have bailed them out too.
So somebody needs to explain to me how any of
this shit makes any sense at all.
Speaker 1: And then we go and give China the Age two
hundred semiconductor chip from Nvidia for basically nothing. And Trump says, oh,
we're going to get dollar sign twenty five percent sign
which I think he means twenty five percent. So we're
going to give our most highly classified chip that's a
matter of national security to China for dollar sign twenty
five percent whatever the hell that's supposed to meet Gohin
for nothing. By the way, nothing back. Okay, can I.
Speaker 2: Say one more thing about those chips? Bend something I
brought up last time when you and I were talking.
How about the fact that right after they get their
hands on the first chip, the first each two chip,
we all know just one, right, So yeah, maybe they'll
make twenty five percent. He's going to make twenty five
percent off of whatever in video is going to be
sending them. But in video will not be sending them
more than one chip because they will dissect that chip.
They will have fifty of their top Chinese scientists sitting
there pulling that little fucker apart, and they will copy
the IP. And when you say, well, you're infringing on
my IP, they'd be like, fuck you. China doesn't have IP.
All right. You could sue us all you want, but
we're still And by the time that they finish, they
will have the identical chip, which is very much what
they do with every single thing that they manifact.
Speaker 1: A grade point and China already announced that that's what
they're doing. Jijingping responded to Trump and said, thanks, but
we don't need that many we're gonna still put these
export controls on because we have a company Huawei here
that's building its own semiconductor chips, and so we're only
going to purchase a few of them anyway. And that's
exactly what Giji Ping's like. We don't want all of
them actually, because they want to protect their own semiconductor producers.
So what they're gonna do is exactly what you said
earlier this week, and Jijing.
Speaker 5: Said, and then Trump turns around and says, it's okay,
it's okay if we give it to them, because we're
coming up with bigger and better chips, and so, well,
we don't have bigger, better chips than the H two hundred.
Speaker 1: And that's what they said. That's actually what Trump said.
Speaker 2: Basically what I'm telling you, that's exactly said forbatim.
Speaker 1: Ford, because then the Trump regime said, well, we we
had to give them the chips because Huawei was gonna
make it anyway. So if they were gonna make it,
that's why we gave them the chips. But then, why
would your own DOJ be prosecuting people the same day
as your announcement for giving these chips to China or
trying to procure chips for China, knowing that if those
were in the hands of China, it would make a
massive security threat to our country. Now, former President Biden
laid out a very meticulous strategy when it came to chips,
and it was we're not going to give China it
had all of these export controls on them, We're not
going to give it to Saudi Arabia. But the Republicans
all attacked Biden's plan. And Biden's plan is, we're not
going to give them to China, but let's figure out
a way to develop these still promote Nvidia, but protect
our national security. And it was all of the Republicans
and this stuff doesn't get enough attention, saying Biden's plan
compromise the national security because it would still allow for
people to steal it and then try to smuggle it
onto a black market and give it to China. So
people attacked the right wing attack Biden for not giving
it to China. The idea of smugglers may get it
and put it on the black market. Trump just gives
it to them, and you'll have like Ted Cruz and
the Republicans go, great, great move, And that's my the
some of the fundamental problems that I have, frankly for me,
don't come from a political position in the normal sense
of how that word is used. Because what these Republicans
are doing is not like republican, it's not conservative. There's
no cohesive ideology to anything they do. It's just what
does Trump say to us to do one day, and
Donald Trump says it, and they do it, and that's.
Speaker 2: A national security risk to each and every one of us,
plain and simple. That's why Biden didn't want to give
it to China. That's why we don't want to give
them to Saudi Arabia or to others. Donald Trump, for
whatever the reason may be, has absolutely taken that concept
and thrown it out. Now, just imagine, hypothetically, if China
was trying to knock off, say, laised potato chips, that
would set him up in flames. He would never allow
them to do such a thing. But our national security
in the most highly sought after on an international black market,
are these h two hundred chips, And instead we're saying,
don't even try to figure out how to get them.
Fuck that, don't even try. Instead, why don't you just
call up Trump send him something shiny like I don't know,
a crown, and make sure that it comes with a
certificate of authenticity. I don't know, maybe put some plaque
that has a five pound of gold base to it,
or maybe all from an aircraft, who the fuck knows.
But there's no point anymore in trying to smuggle it,
in trying to obtain it, trying to get the IP
intellectual property schematics for it. Now, all you got to
do now is call up and say, mister President, sir, sir,
you are truly making America great. You are the smartest,
You are the most out of the box thinking president
that the United States has had in two hundred and
fifty years, which is no doubt the reason that they
are going to place your face on the side of
Mount Rushmore next to the other great Americans. It's no
wonder that they're naming the building International Building for Peace
after you. It's no wonder that they are to put
a acknowledgment of your incredibleness in front of Arlington Cemetery,
in the in the of the Arc Dae Triomph, the
Arctic Trump. It's no wonder, no wonder, no wonder, And
we'd like to send you the FIFA two Piece Award
because of just how amazing that you've been. By the way,
would be okay if you just sent us one h
two hundred chip so that you know, we can actually
start to consider how America and China could work together.
Absolutely absolutely, you know we've been friends for a long time, Raijiji.
That's how it went. That's just literally how stupid I
guarantee you the conversation went. And ultimately, when we take
back the house and God willing to senate, which may
even be a possibility now, they will start doing investigations
and those phone calls are actually recorded, you will hear,
probably verbatim, exactly what you just heard from me a
second ago.
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Speaker 1: Thank you great sponsors, Great ad re there Cohen. Again,
that was big news out of Indiana for those just
tuning in. Indiana rejected Trump's attempt to jerrymander despite all
the pressure that Donald Trump put on them. You had
the Heritage Foundation's Political Action Committee saying President Trump has
made it clear to Indiana leaders if the Indiana Senate
fails to pass the map, all federal funding will be
stripped from the state. Roads will not be paid, guard
bases will close, major projects will stop. These are the stakes,
and every no vote will be to blame. And they
just said, you know, we're not doing that. The bill
soundly defeated thirty one two nineteen pretty big, big stuff
right there. You know, as part of this speech that
Donald Trump gave, if if you even want to call
it that, you know, he also did his weave where
he just starts saying random things and he goes I
call it the weave. I call it the weave. And
it's just I want to get your take, Cohen, because
you know, we've been following this deterioration in Trump's speech
abilities and him falling, you know, closing his eyes, and
you say, that's what he's normally done. But just focus
on the way he gives you know, these speeches now
it's just all over the place. It's just a bunch
of word salad, even with.
Speaker 2: No in all fairness, anytime he goes off script, that's
what it becomes. In all fairness, I want everybody to
go back, if you have the patience and the stomach
for it, and watch the very famous one where he
descended down the Golden escalator and he talked about everything
from Mexican's being rapist murderers, drug addicts, but some are
good all the way to god knows what. When he
goes on those rambles, none of it makes sense if
he stays on script, which of course he never does.
Then we don't have as much to talk about us
rambling bullshit's been going on forever. You know.
Speaker 1: I've seen the videos though in the first term, at
those speeches. I've seen the twenty twenty election speeches, the
twenty fifteen there's a in my opinion, a massive difference
in how he speaks, how he delivers it. And well,
let's just show you the weave. Here, play the score.
Speaker 4: So it's November fifth, and it's also again it's a
thing called tariffs. And I told you I was about
to say that, you know, because I love the weaves.
The weave, you know what the weave is, so here
being being being being. You always have to get back
to the right location. But otherwise they'll criticize you for
stringing from the speech. If I, by the way, if
I read for a turn the Telli property, you'll be
falling asleep right down.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they'd be falling asleep right next to him
in the Oval office. I mean, it's the same, it's
the same stick over and over again. You see, here's
the problem. I'm going to be very straightforward here, and
I hope people take this for what it is. Donald
Trump doesn't prepare. In fact, he didn't even read that speech.
If he glanced through it while he was on the airplane,
making a couple of notations here or there, that's the
best that you can get. While he's standing up there,
he gets a thought, and that thought has no logical
basis into it. It's not predicated on accuracy. There's no
data within which to support it. But it doesn't matter
because it's in his head. And because it's in his head,
he needs to talk about it, like that beautiful thing
called tariff's. That's what he's talking about. This is none
of it makes any sense. And what happens is he's
bouncing all around because tariffs remind him of something else,
and then he starts to talk about that, and then
of course he has to talk about well, somehow tariff's
remind him of Eric Swolwell, or reminds him of, for example,
Adam Schiff, or reminds him of James Comi. Then he
starts going into the whole thing about the Russia hoax.
It's like there is no focus for it's It's like
the old expression to throw spaghetti against the wall and
see what sticks. Well, that's what happens one thing leads
to another, until ultimately he comes back and says, oh, yeah,
I was supposed to be talking, came about the economy,
and then he weaves his way back into that it's
just unintelligible, is right. It's insane. The fact that people
actually stand online or waste their entire evening listening to
this nonsense. That's the thing. I really would like to
have an investigation done on what's wrong with these people
that they can turn around and waste all night long
to listen to some papplling nonsense. It doesn't mean it's
like going to a bar, right, and the whole purpose
is not really to have a drink, to shoot some pool,
but to find the drunkest guy there and to engage
him in a conversation on kite flying.
Speaker 1: I want people in leadership positions who are prepared, especially
at the highest position that exists in the country, if
not the world. And I would normally say the world,
but Trump has made this presidency so small in the
world relative to Jijingping and others who's Trumps augmented that
I can't even say that the United States is like
the leader of the world anymore. Certainly, the noisiest in
the world. But is it the leader anymore? I'm not
sure it has that designation. But a lot of the
reasons that I even got in to talk about politics
is that I wasn't a political person, but the things
I was seeing that were being called politics, competence, facts, preparation, democracy.
I was surprised that it was being viewed along political
lines when I was a lawyer and not doing this stuff.
And then I looked at it and I said, well,
you know, this stuff is impacting the country in a
way that is so detrimental and to the point that
you're making you go. He's never prepared and not to
me on all of these issues, this shoot from the hip,
and then his own way of processing the world through
this bizarre lens of conspiracy and derangement.
Speaker 2: And hate, anger anger.
Speaker 1: The outcomes are not positive outcomes, and that's the reason
why he's bankrupted so many things. He's been able to
rally people around projects in an unprecedented way in this
country's history, if not the world, to to movement to
do things the presidency, but then when he's there, he
then just it's it's all based on these lies and
bringing people through through all of these fabrications, and then you.
Speaker 2: Know what the worst part of that is, you know
the old expression monkey see monkey do Yeah. Okay, you
have the chief monkey doing this, and for whatever the
reason may be, people have become expecting of him to
do this. But he now has an entire team of stupids.
They're like the they're like the strategy team of stupidity,
where like Nutlick comes up and they're starting again with
the gold with the Trump visa gold card. And if
you really have five million dollars to throw away and
you don't want to pay America's taxes, well you could
pay Uncle Sam today the low, low, low, low low
price of a merely five million dollars to skip the
line without for a single second thinking who are the
people that are actually going to be the ones spending
the one million or the five million dollars? I don't know,
drug dealers, money launderers. How about Russian oligarchs that can't
get into the country because they're on the band list.
Well you can, now, sir, jump past that entire line
for the mere price of one million dollars. Mazzle, what
a great way to do it. The billions and billions
of dollars maybe to fix the entire budget. Well, if
the number of people who want to come here really
really and then they when they shit all over the
person who's coming here to the border that they can't
afford a million dollars, they don't have them sitting around
that they're not the drug dealers, the money launders, or
the Russian oligarchs or oligarchs from the various different countries. Instead,
that's what you get. You get somebody that's lying to
you and trying to tell you how great this project
is without even really thinking. But it gets worse because
then you have an investigation into Ice, and you get
Christineome called now before the committee, and what does she
do right to your face, with the arrogance of I
guess our president. They turn around and they lie right
to the American people. Fuck the thousand and one violation
of knowingly lying to Congress. That doesn't matter to any
of them. They all feel empowered to do and to
say what you want. And just as soon as you've
finished throwing up from a Christinome cabinet, hearing well out
Prance's machine gun lips Levitt herself within which to promote
and regurgitate the same lies and bullshit over and over
and over again. This is the whole problem. And this
is why I constantly say, this is the network that
you come to if you want truth, if you want accuracy.
You may not like everything that I say to me, personally,
I don't care, because what I'm saying is what I know.
What you're what you're thinking, is just what you feel.
There's a little bit of a difference here, but at
the end of the day, we're all looking to get
to the same to the same final destination, and that's
a House and a Senate controlled by Democrats, to put
an end to this stupidity once and.
Speaker 1: For all, now and again. My view of that though, isn't.
My view of it though, isn't even from a political way.
I want thinking people who can plan, who are organized,
who are listening to what the American people are saying,
who are coming up with plans. You know, we may
you may like Obamacare, or you may not like Obamacare.
My own preference, I like single payer medicare for all.
But I think Obamacare is a good faith attempt to
try to address market forces that exist in the insurance
industry while making healthcare accessible by expanding risk pools and
ending discrimination on the basis of pre existing conditions, and
trying to ensure twenty to thirty million Americans given the
complexities that exist within the insurance industry and that people
get their insurance largely through employers, and the way that's
shaped out, But it was a detailed plan, thousands of
pages that focused on all aspects of it, where are
you're going to buy it, how is it going to
be delivered? And then there's attempts to fix it along
the way, but it's a plan, right, And then the
subsidies were layered on because whoa, the price is getting
too high and the money is going to insurance companies
to how do we make this better versus whatever the
hell Trump and Maga is doing is just, hey, you
just get rid of insurance in general, just they don't
need it, by the way, when they're actually helping the
insurance companies, and then just give people a check.
Speaker 2: They we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you two thousand dollars, which you're gonna
be rich, and then you're gonna take that two thousand
and you're gonna buy insurance. Well, they're not gonna give
you the two thousand dollars check they're lying about them.
But even assume they give you the two thousand, you
want to know how expensive chemo is. You want to
know how expensive a surgery is, or a procedure is. Hint,
it's more than.
Speaker 2: A cat skin. It will cost you more so the temo.
Speaker 1: So it fundamentally just is It's just. It's like saying
twenty three trillion dollars. It's just it's stupid, and it's
based on things that are just not grappling with you know,
with with with reality. I want to bring this up
too though, you know, before we go, do you know
which is we talked about how look, Trump's past is
riddled with these bankruptcies, bankruptcies of casinos and failed businesses.
It's also tainted with a felony and he's been found
civilly reliable for sexual abuse in a civil case brought
against him. He's been on videotape saying that he grabs
women by genitals because when you're rich, they let you
do it, or words to that, you know, to that effect.
He's behaving in office in line with those things, right,
like covering up the Epstein files bankrupting the country, pardoning
drug trafficking people, and pardoning Ponzi schemers who are engaged
in massive, massive, billion dollar frauds. Right, So he's doing
those things. But then there's this one other point that
I want to connect because we remember in the nineteen
seventies or so, one of the things that that Trump
was accused of doing in his buildings with his dad
was denying the ability of black people to access you know,
those buildings, and Trump with the Central Park, Central Park
five or six, you know, saying that they should get
the death penalty, you know. And then Donald Trump at
his speech in Pennsylvania says that why are we bringing
people from African countries into the United States? And he says,
these are shithole countries. These are disgusting, disgusting, filthy, dirty places.
And what Trump's saying though, and when you go you
know which we hear him and he goes, we need
people from Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. So the gold card,
right is their way in his mind of doing what
he did in the seventies. He wants to stop black
people from getting into the United States, and he wants
to figure out a way to incentivize. Why the gold
card is a way for him to say, is this
a way to basically, you know, do the.
Speaker 2: But Ben, I'm so sorry, don't Jeremy, don't take this
picture down.
Speaker 6: I want our brigade, I want I want our brigaders
to take a look at this facacta card. First of all,
the United States of America is like in fourteen point
font right. Trump gold card in the same his signature
probably in eighteen fronts. But look at the size of
the American flag there at the.
Speaker 2: Bottom left corner. Look at somewhere off over camera right
or his left shoulder, it's called camera right, is a
tiny little statue of liberty. Right, Look at the bald
eagle basically hanging out there by his front jacket pocket.
Look at the size of Donald Trump in this. This
is if you're going to create, for whatever reason, a
gold card, right, Seriously, shouldn't it have the United States
of American? It may be the statue of liberty two
immigrants come here right to our country. Maybe it would
have a giant bold eagle or something like that. No, no,
and no, it's all about the branding. He's legitimately trying
to rebrand the United States of America into his image.
Whether it's gonna be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
coin that will have his name on his face on
front and back, Whether it's gonna be the picture of
him hanging off the side of the FED building, whether
it's gonna be the Arc the Trump whether it's gonna
be the Trump Ballroom, whether it's gonna be the bumpla
bah blah bah. It doesn't make a difference. He is
literally in front of us in real time, rebranding this
country to the name Trump, playing in the Trump I
think it's insane.
Speaker 1: It's the Trump Gold Card, the Trump Platinum Card, the
Trump Corporate Gold Card. And did you see the Trump
branded National park passes? So the annual park pass where
people want to go to all the name park. You know,
you buy him as one and you can then visit
all of the parks, right, and then every year people
look forward to it's usually an image of like the
bison or a bald eagle, or you know, something that's
in a national park. Cohen, what's your prediction of what
the card looks like this year?
Speaker 2: It would definitely have Trump Trump's face onto it. And
by the way, if you noticed, the only day now
where it's free to go into the National Park is
Trump's birthday. Why because he wants everybody to know exactly
what his birthday.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: No more Juneteenth, no more Martin Luther King, no more
of any of that, no more so.
Speaker 1: Now it's a photo of him and George Washington. And
that's your forced if you get this annual pass to
have an annual And people are so pissed because people
love going to these parks, and Trump's destroying the parks,
Like the guy who's ripping the parks to shreds is
the guy who put his face just so our audience
can see what it looks like. That's the new card.
And people are like, really, as he's destroying the parks,
he's putting a space on it, going two fingers salute.
Who's it going to go to?
Speaker 2: Oh, it has to go to Christineome. There's nobody else
right now that I could think of that deserves it more.
I'm sitting here and I am literally just agast at
the fact that they brought this. I forget who it was,
Ben join me for this one. Who was it again?
That turnaround was asking her the questions about deporting magazine
or exactly, turns around and said, have you deported any
Americans in your I say it's absolutely none, sir, and
he goes, are you sure, absolutely none? Well, I'd like
to then present somebody on zoom. This this gentleman who
was deported to back to South Korea for this country,
was wounded, was shot twice, received two separate Purple Hearts,
and for whatever reason it might be, they deported him
back to a country, South Korea, where he hasn't been
since he was seven years old. And all that the
guy did is turn around and say, would you care
to apologize? Would you say this has been She couldn't
even apologize to a veteran who was injured, who was shot,
who received the Purple Heart award twice, improperly deported, remained
still in South Korea. She didn't even have the decency,
She didn't have the fortitude within which to say, I apologize,
What can we do to bring you back? We made
a mistake. No, No, everything that we have done we
have done correctly by the book. He was here illegally
forgetting his service to this country, and for that, for
the disrespect to the veterans, to the disrespect to everybody
who has literally been harmed by this asshole, this Christinoman asshole,
this bullshit, these ice raids, whether it's being shot in
the head with a pepper with a pepper bowl, or
sprayed in the face with pepper spray, or tackled to
the ground, or just simply like what they did to
that small Spanish girl, threw her up into the wall,
bouncing off and smacking her head. To all of them
who deserve an apology, where this entire ice stupidity has
to come to an end, CHRISTINEO, there's nobody who deserves
the two things salute this week more than you, so Christy,
to you and to your little boy toy Cory, fuck
you both.
Speaker 1: And she left that here. She couldn't even stay in
the hearing for more than like an hour, and she lied,
she lied, and said that she had to go chair
the FEMA Review Council meeting, which was canceled, and so
she left. Then she started taking selfies with some of
the MAGA people who were outside, and she didn't even
stay through the whole hearing. The again the level of
just like these people hate America, they truly like, they
truly hate America and they're in it for themselves and
we just have to call it out and what it is.
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