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Speaker 1: Welcome to political Beatdown. I'm been Micellas, joined by Michael Cohen.

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We've got a lot to discuss. Let's start at the

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top with the breaking news. New York Attorney General Letitia

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James wins again, although she didn't have to show up

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or really do anything. The Trump regime has yet again

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failed to secure an indictment against New York Attorney General

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Letitia James. In the past two weeks. They've tried two times.

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Remember that the prior indictment was thrown out and dismissed.

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Then they tried last week in Norfolk, Virginia, and they

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lost there. The grand jury didn't vote to indict and

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they rejected the true bill. So then I guess, in

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the infinite wisdom of this idiotic Trump doj they go,

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all right, we didn't get it in Norfolk, let's go

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to Alexandria. Let's try another area. And they got rejected.

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In Alexandria, they presented a true bill to the grand

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jury regarding allegations of mortgage from the grand jury looked

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at it and said, uh uh. They didn't get a

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majority of the grand jury. We don't know the full count,

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but this was rejected. Yet again, everybody knows the saying

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that you can indict a ham sandwich. And the reason

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for that expression is that in these grand jury rooms,

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there's no judge. Your target of the indictment is not

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even in the room. Their lawyers aren't in the room.

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So the only people in the room it's the Department

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of Justice lawyers and the grand jury. So you develop

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that bond with the grand jury because there's no opponent

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in the room, really, and you instruct them on the law,

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and you present the case, and then you say to them,

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all right, we've given you all the law, here are

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the facts. Oftentimes you only need like one person to

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actually testify. It's like an FBI agent or whoever. And

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after hearing this grand jury, can you please sign off

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on our indictment? And the grand jury said yet again no,

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Michael Cohen, you are You've been a target of this

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regime over and over and over again. So I want

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to get your.

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Speaker 2: Where the hell Where the hell was this grand jury

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when these assholes were going ahead and pulling that indictment

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bullshit on me? I mean, where with it? You know?

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The thing that this administration seems to forget is the

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fact that everybody watches television today, or they watch here

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a Midas Touch network, or they watch on other independent

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news outlets where you're learning about what's going on here.

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In terms of Tiss James, she is no longer just

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a New York recognizable name. She has now become a

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nationwide name. Why because of the mistakes that were made

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by this administration's doj by placing Lindsey Halligan at the

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head and allowing this to go forward, by her making

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the mistakes that she made in terms of obtaining the

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first indictment and so on and so forth. Well that

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that's the real problem here. So people are saying to themselves, Okay, look,

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we already know a lot about this case. We know,

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for example, that the entire amount is eighteen thousand dollars.

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Do we think that she really messed up? Do we

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really want to indict her? Is this not political retribution? Well,

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the answer is it probably is. Is she guilty? Did

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she make the mistake? Absolutely right, Absolutely there must be

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a mistake. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean that you have to indict.

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Figure it out, work it out, but don't bring the

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court system into this political nonsense. And that's the message

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that grand juries are obtaining. But I will just take

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one more moment to say what this is doing right

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now is so helpful to this process because you heard

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Ben turn around and say, in fact, there is an

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adage you can indict a ham sandwich. And for all

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the reasons that Ben elucidated on, here's the problem for

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now these prosecutors. People are looking at these prosecutors now

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with cross eyes. They're going to now have to provide

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a whole lot more information, I believe, to these grand

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juries before which these grand juries come back with that

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ninety eight percent acknowledgment of the indictments. And you know

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what that's good for the system?

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Speaker 1: Well, think about if you're a criminal defense lawyer on

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any other case in the country right now, any other case,

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take any other topic, not these high profile ones. Your

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client is charged with drives, human trafficking, terrorism, You, as

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the criminal defense lawyer, go, we know that this DOJ

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ride here is out there giving the pardons to his

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billionaire friends and attacking his enemies. We know that this

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DOJ has zero credibility. You see the posts that they're

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making every day. Heck, Donald Trump's out there attacking his

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own FBI. This you know the FBI agents that you

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saw testify at this trial.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's out there saying that they're the Deep State.

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So I want you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury

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to think about that when you deliberate. Is that reasonable

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doubt right there that the President of the United States

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currently is saying his own FBI that testified is the

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Deep State out to get him? And you could just

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imagine even if the criminal defense lawyer doesn't go that route.

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It's now kind of common knowledge to the American people,

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not even in a political way of Democrat Republican, in

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a way of competence, right especially in these communities Washington,

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d C. And Virginia where you have a lot of

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indictments in these political cases and adjacent political cases, where

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you have grandeurors who know what's happening and they're following

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the news.

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Speaker 2: They know to your point.

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Speaker 1: Code and that this DOJ is bad like not bad

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like like incompetent, and that.

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Speaker 2: They are I think it's more than just this one

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specific DOJ. I think people are now finally understanding that

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the entire process has been flawed for a very long time. Now.

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I'm not going to turn around and say that this

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administration hasn't taken it to the next level. Of course

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they have, but this DOJ, this system has been fucked

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for a very very long time, and I think people

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now are much smarter and they've learned a lot about

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the process and most importantly that they can't trust it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have someone like Halligan who in the

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grand jury proceedings regarding Komy, we know about that that

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case has got has been you know, thrown out, and

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they're trying to figure out how to revive it. But

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if they can't revive Tis James, they're not going to

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be able to revive Comy. And she brought a witness

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who was the wrong with right, this FBI agent who

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was exposed to attorney client information and whose information was tainted.

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Halligan provided incorrect jury instructions about what the law is

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regarding the Fifth Amendment. She basically in an hour period

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of time, every second in the hour she made some mistake,

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Like you could not have done a worse job than

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she did, because she got everything wrong, the witness, the instructions,

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the actual indictment itself. She went back number of counts,

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a number of counts. She had the four persons signed

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the wrong document that was never shown to the full

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grand jury, and then played it off like it was

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the right document. Everything wrong. And then you have the

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Attorney General, Pam Bondi jump in and ratify all of

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it and say, yeah, this is great, this is great.

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And then they put out a statement Todd blanche An

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Attorney General Bondy, saying that it's the federal judges that

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are to blame right here, and they're being mean to Halligan.

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You know, Halligan's still out there.

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Speaker 2: Coach Ben, what are they being?

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Speaker 1: What do you say?

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Speaker 2: What did you what did you say that? They are

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Speaker 1: What what I said mean mean that the judges are

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being mean to Halligan. They're they're treating how like why

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are you telling her that she can't put her name

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on the pleadings? Like why are you doing that? And

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it's because she's not the United States Attorney.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the part that makes it even

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crazier people don't realize this. Every single form that has

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her name attached to it, and what if, what if

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we're talking about legitimate criminals, like you know, real criminals.

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Anything that has her name on it is tainted now,

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which gives the defense attorneys the opportunity to go and

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have the entire case dismissed as improperly wrought. Not only

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not only Lindsay Halligan, the same holds true for Alena

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Habba in New Jersey. I mean you're not talking about

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oh yeah, these are the only two cases that they

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have their names attached to. No is the US attorney.

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of those cases are now as far as I'm concerned,

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if I was there, if I was the client's defense counsel,

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I'd be making motions for dismissal based upon the fact

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that it was brought in properly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Unfortunately, Alena Habba finally resigned after pretending

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to be the United States Attorney for many months after

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being disqualified, and now in the Eastern District of Virginia,

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you have Halligan out there again. She's saying that she's

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the United States Attorney, and she puts her name on

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all of the documents as the United States Attorney and all,

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and she doesn't like she could just remove her name

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and these prosecutions can go forward, like her name doesn't

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have to be beyond there, or she can call herself

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a different role, but just not the United States Attorney.

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But it's like a sociopath. It's like imagine getting fired

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from a job, which she is effectively fired from the

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job and just continuing to show up. It's like the

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George Costanza like Yankees writ and design, right, you know,

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it just keeps showing up and pretending that you haven't

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been fired, except this is real life. And the federal

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judges keep telling the line prosecutors, like the day to

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day rank and file prosecutors get her name off and

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they're yelling at the prosecutors the other prosecutors, why is

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her name on this thing? She's not the United States Attorney.

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we have no choice Main Justice in DC. They're forcing us,

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They're forcing us to do this. And then the judge

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is like, well, you know you're going to be impacting

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these cases, and the prosecutors like there's nothing I can do,

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and so yeah, the DOJ right now has zero credibility,

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I think in the American people in front of these

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federal courts, who are all looking at it this way

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major breaking news. Despite Donald Trump's threats, the Indiana State

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Senate has rejected the Trump backed jerry mandered map, leaving

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the existing map in place. You know, Donald Trump's been

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threatening all of those state senators in Indiana if they

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voted against him. Then you had the Heritage Foundations Political

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Action Committee. They've been posting, you know, we're gonna go

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after you in Indiana, We're gonna make you suffer, and

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you know, and then Don Junior posted But we just

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learned in the past thirty seconds we could report this

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major breaking news. Indiana State Senate has rejected the Trump

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backed map. Cohen, what's your reaction to that?

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Speaker 2: No, not surprised, to be honest. I think everybody right

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now is concerned about this entire jerry mander. You do

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it when you're required to, which I believe is every

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ten years. But these mid mid term jerry manders, especially

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the one that I found to be the most the

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most grotesque, was the one in Texas where they actually

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came out and they said, yeah, we jerry mandered based

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upon race, absolutely, and yet they still approved it. You know,

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it's very hard for me, you know, to understand that

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sort of ideology, that sort of belief system where you're

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actually looking to limit an individual's right in terms of

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electing their official based upon the color of your skin

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or based upon your you know, your ethnic origin. I

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just find I really, I really always believed that America

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was traveling in the right direction, on the right road.

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And we have now, over the course of the last

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I would say, seven years, we have absolutely one hundred

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percent made a U turn and we're flying down the highway,

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literally going the opposite direction. You know what that Thank

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goodness for. Thank goodness for you know, for other states

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holding it. Thank goodness you know that we were successful

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in terms of California, who did it right despite the fact,

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you know, I think a lot of the nonsensical back

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and forth with the trolling by even government newsom. I

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think it's funny as hell, and I think whoever's doing

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it for him are clever, But I don't think it

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helps our cause at all. You know, these sort of

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things they just don't do, they don't. Yeah, we get

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a good giggle from it, but this isn't what's going

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to get us what we need in twenty twenty six.

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And I want to say one more thing about that.

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If we are successful like we were, like we were

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just yesterday in Miami, Florida, that we have all the

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momentum now, don't distract us, which stupidity like putting Trump

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and everybody else in a bunch of orange jumpsuits. That's

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great during a campaign for him. Look at these numbers

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right here. Eileen Higgins beat the living piss out of

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Emilio Gonzales right sixty to forty. Sixty to forty, the

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first time in thirty years that a Democrat has held

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the seat of Miami. And why because it's all about affordability,

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It's all about ice, It's all about these failed programs

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that are constantly being put out there by people like

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Russell Vott or Steven Miller or the lies that are

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coming out of this administration. Trust me when I tell

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you this is what we should all be talking about.

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How we stay active, how we stay informed, how we

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keep our foot on the gas and keep just steamrolling

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them in just about every election that's going on right now.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just in Miami, right You had in Georgia

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a special election for House District one two one where

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the Democratic candidate Eric Gissler defeated the MAGA candidate Dutch Guests.

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The fourth the Democratic candidate won by two points Cohen

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in twenty twenty four. Gissler, the Democratic candidate, ran and

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lost by like forty points in twenty twenty four, and

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then ran again and won by two points one year

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later in that same district. Also that just to be

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clear with people, that's a state house district. That's not Congress.

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I don't want people to get computers. That's the Georgia

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state representative. But that area was jerry mandered as well.

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And lots of people are referring to what Trump is

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doing as a dummy mander, which is one of the

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reasons it was rejected in Indiana. A dummy mander is

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kind of like when you have a dummy United States

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Attorney like Lindzay Halligan, who doesn't secure these indictments when

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you can indict a ham sandwich. But in a jerrymandering sense,

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you know, Trump is basing these jerry manders on a

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data set from twenty twenty four when Trump basically defrauded

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the Hispanic population and young people into believing that he

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was going to make things affordable on day one and

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make them rich. But now that we've seen massive shifts

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among both those cohorts young people and Latino people and

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even other groups as well. But you're seeing big ships there,

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forty point shifts. So when you do a jerrymander these

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ways and you want to get rid of a Democratic seat,

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what you ultimately have to do is dilute some safe

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Republican seats to try to turn the Democratic seat into

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a red seat. So let's just say that there's a

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House seat that's a plus twenty two Trump seat, and

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you have a blue Democratic seat that's like a plus

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five Democratic seat. You may have to bring down that

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plus twenty two to say a plus sixteen and then

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try to get yourself a seat there in the newly

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created district that was a plus five Democrat. But in

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doing that, that plus five plus six based on the

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current results, that likely turns democratic anyway. And now that

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you've brought down a plus twenty two to a plus sixteen,

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that's within the margin of what we're seeing the over

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performance numbers be for Democrats. So now you may have

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actually given Democrats two seats right there. And that's what

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and that's why in a lot of these states they're saying, whoa, whoa,

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whoa should we be doing it? And to your point Cohen,

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what Gavin Newsom, what Governor Newsom did in California was

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so important. So it showed it trained these magas to know, Okay, Indiana,

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you do that. Guess who's going to do it? Rgin

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Virginia is gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: But the difference, though, is Newsome actually did it by law,

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whereas Texas did not. They didn't run a proposition to

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ask people, which is completely and totally different. But here's

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the interesting thing also that I want everybody to get

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behind and understand. Texas went ahead and jerrymandered with the expectation,

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based upon AI polling data from Trump's twenty twenty six campaign,

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that if they jerrymander moved this block here or create

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that one gigantic district that's over five hundred miles long,

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that we will be able to control the votes and

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the seats. Well, again, what did yesterday's Miami mayor's race show?

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What did New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Minnesota? And so

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what have they now shown? No, that's wrong. In fact,

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people are concerned when you have a billionaire president turn

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around and say things like you don't need to buy

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your kid's gift, or maybe you know, at most buy

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them two dollars, not twenty. That's easy coming from a

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guy who couldn't tell you what the cost of a

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gallon of milk is. All right, that's not what the

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American people want to hear from their leader. And I'm

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gonna be very clear, I wouldn't be surprised, not in

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the slightest if many of those gerrymannder districts in Texas

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end up flipping. Because here's the thing that you can't

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bullshit people on how bad it hurts in their pocket

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or what they're unable to pay for their children. They

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can't get them new shoes, new pants, they can't get

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them a new winter jacket, they can't send them to

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school with money, or they can't let the kid go

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on a school trip because they don't have the extra

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money within which to pay people. Don't forget that crap.

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And I'm telling you, when you're dealing with a state

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like Texas and there's a lot of poverty in Texas,

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you know there's a lot of money there too, but

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there's a lot of areas that are poor. And let

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me be very clear, when you're hurting who are you blaming,

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You ain't gonna blame Joe Biden for this. Nobody's buying

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that shit from Trump anymore, all right, they're turning around

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and they're saying, it's that guy right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all fun and games with the woke and

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saying they're eating the cats and dogs, and you know,

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for the right wing propaganda machine, right, that's all whatever

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until people say, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm hurting right now

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and you're telling me I'm doing good, right, And I

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truly wish that people for a second would step out

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of their own me, me, me and recognize that it

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was coming for them anyway, and that their protection of

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other Americans is important because it would come for you regardless,

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not just what we should do as Americans. But to

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your point, going now, all these Trump voters are like,

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wait a minut, wait a minute, wait a minute, I'm

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being screwed, and you're telling me that I'm doing great,

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and you're telling me that my kids should have less

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pencils and dolls from what they're buying in communist China.

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Speaker 2: Like in that.

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Speaker 1: Statement that Trump made it that weird casino rally that

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he held in Pennsylvania at the Mount Airy Casino in

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a small wedding banquet. Not only did he tell people

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that they should ration pencils and dolls. Right, just so

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people are seeing, this is what the venue looked like.

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Those seats were filled up to be fair by the

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time Trump took the stage. But this was a wedding

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banquet venue.

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Speaker 2: Oh the way, the number of chairs that were there,

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I think abounted to one hundred and eighty. You and

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I could fill that place.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know, and I.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't say there were twenty thousand people here. There were

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lines down the block from the casino. But not only

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does he say that Americans should ration pencils and dolls,

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but that in communist China they should have and they

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should do better than what exists in them. He said

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both in the same statement.

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Speaker 1: Let's play this clip from that purely.

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Speaker 2: We need the one thing you need.

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Speaker 3: You need steal.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can give up certain products. You can

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give up pencils. Guys. Under the China policy, you know,

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every child can get thirty seven pencils.

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Speaker 2: They only need one or two.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't need that many.

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Speaker 4: But you always need, you always need steal. You don't

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need thirty seven dollars for your daughter two or three

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is nice, but you don't need thirty seven dollars.

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Speaker 2: So we're doing things right, We're And then he tells,

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you know what else you don't need? You know what

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else you don't need? How about a four hundred million

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dollar gift from Cutter in terms of an airplane that's

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going to cost the United States government about a billion

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two in order to retrofit it. That's what you don't need.

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You don't need a three hundred plus million dollar ballroom

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that you don't need. You know what people need? Ben

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They need health care, all right. They need they need

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their snap programs turned back on. They need to be

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able to eat and to live, to have heat, electricity,

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and so on, be able to live in dignity, not

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to be told how many pencils that they should have

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or how many dollars that you should be able to

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buy your child. Right.

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Speaker 1: And then he tells the farmers who he has to

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bail out now because his tariffs have so harmed them

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that they're being made rich by the bailout from their

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bankruptcy because of the tariffs. Here play this clip.

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Speaker 4: Some countries played a little cute and we just gave

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them right, out of a tariff money coast. There's nothing

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right out of the billion, hundreds of billions that we've

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taken in. We gave the farmers a little help, twelve

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billion dollars, and they are so happy and they all

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they want is a level playing field. And now it's happening,

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and the tariffs are making them rich. It's gonna be

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You're gonna see. You're to see what happens over the

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next two years. It's like a miracle is taking place,

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but we take it in.

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Speaker 2: Oh, praise the Lord, miracles taking place. Donald Trump took

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imaginary tariff money and he's now providing a bailout yet

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again to our farmers. By the way, I've spoken to

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a couple of farmers, all right, I've spoken to a

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couple of farmers, and they turn, we don't want to

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bail out. We just want to work. We want to

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be able to sell our product like we were in

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the past, and to make our own money. You know,

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they're not They don't want to be considered charity cases.

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They work. They're really hard working people, right. I mean

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this is generations people don't finish. For example, law school

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bend like you, right, and the terrors I say, you

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know what, I want to be a corn farmer. Yeah,

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that's what I want to do. I want to take

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my education and I want to become a farm It's generational.

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They love the land. That land has probably been in

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their family for hundreds of years, and they want to

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keep they want to keep their legacy going. And instead,

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what does this putts end up doing? These bunch of idiots,

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including the Agricultural Secretary, what do they do? They turn around,

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they create that stupid ass tariff right whereby now China,

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who bought, for example, all the SOI from our farmers

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at market price, are now buying it from yeah, Argentina,

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who coincidinkly we happen to have bailed them out too.

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So somebody needs to explain to me how any of

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this shit makes any sense at all.

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Speaker 1: And then we go and give China the Age two

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hundred semiconductor chip from Nvidia for basically nothing. And Trump says, oh,

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we're going to get dollar sign twenty five percent sign

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which I think he means twenty five percent. So we're

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going to give our most highly classified chip that's a

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matter of national security to China for dollar sign twenty

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five percent whatever the hell that's supposed to meet Gohin

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for nothing. By the way, nothing back. Okay, can I.

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Speaker 2: Say one more thing about those chips? Bend something I

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brought up last time when you and I were talking.

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How about the fact that right after they get their

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hands on the first chip, the first each two chip,

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we all know just one, right, So yeah, maybe they'll

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make twenty five percent. He's going to make twenty five

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percent off of whatever in video is going to be

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sending them. But in video will not be sending them

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more than one chip because they will dissect that chip.

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They will have fifty of their top Chinese scientists sitting

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there pulling that little fucker apart, and they will copy

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the IP. And when you say, well, you're infringing on

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my IP, they'd be like, fuck you. China doesn't have IP.

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All right. You could sue us all you want, but

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we're still And by the time that they finish, they

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will have the identical chip, which is very much what

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they do with every single thing that they manifact.

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Speaker 1: A grade point and China already announced that that's what

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they're doing. Jijingping responded to Trump and said, thanks, but

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we don't need that many we're gonna still put these

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export controls on because we have a company Huawei here

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that's building its own semiconductor chips, and so we're only

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going to purchase a few of them anyway. And that's

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exactly what Giji Ping's like. We don't want all of

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them actually, because they want to protect their own semiconductor producers.

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So what they're gonna do is exactly what you said

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earlier this week, and Jijing.

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Speaker 5: Said, and then Trump turns around and says, it's okay,

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it's okay if we give it to them, because we're

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coming up with bigger and better chips, and so, well,

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we don't have bigger, better chips than the H two hundred.

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Speaker 1: And that's what they said. That's actually what Trump said.

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Speaker 2: Basically what I'm telling you, that's exactly said forbatim.

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Speaker 1: Ford, because then the Trump regime said, well, we we

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had to give them the chips because Huawei was gonna

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make it anyway. So if they were gonna make it,

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that's why we gave them the chips. But then, why

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would your own DOJ be prosecuting people the same day

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as your announcement for giving these chips to China or

478
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trying to procure chips for China, knowing that if those

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were in the hands of China, it would make a

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massive security threat to our country. Now, former President Biden

481
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laid out a very meticulous strategy when it came to chips,

482
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and it was we're not going to give China it

483
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had all of these export controls on them, We're not

484
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going to give it to Saudi Arabia. But the Republicans

485
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all attacked Biden's plan. And Biden's plan is, we're not

486
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going to give them to China, but let's figure out

487
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a way to develop these still promote Nvidia, but protect

488
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our national security. And it was all of the Republicans

489
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and this stuff doesn't get enough attention, saying Biden's plan

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compromise the national security because it would still allow for

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people to steal it and then try to smuggle it

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onto a black market and give it to China. So

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people attacked the right wing attack Biden for not giving

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it to China. The idea of smugglers may get it

495
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and put it on the black market. Trump just gives

496
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it to them, and you'll have like Ted Cruz and

497
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the Republicans go, great, great move, And that's my the

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some of the fundamental problems that I have, frankly for me,

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don't come from a political position in the normal sense

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of how that word is used. Because what these Republicans

501
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are doing is not like republican, it's not conservative. There's

502
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no cohesive ideology to anything they do. It's just what

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does Trump say to us to do one day, and

504
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Donald Trump says it, and they do it, and that's.

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Speaker 2: A national security risk to each and every one of us,

506
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plain and simple. That's why Biden didn't want to give

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it to China. That's why we don't want to give

508
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them to Saudi Arabia or to others. Donald Trump, for

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whatever the reason may be, has absolutely taken that concept

510
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and thrown it out. Now, just imagine, hypothetically, if China

511
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was trying to knock off, say, laised potato chips, that

512
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would set him up in flames. He would never allow

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them to do such a thing. But our national security

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in the most highly sought after on an international black market,

515
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are these h two hundred chips, And instead we're saying,

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don't even try to figure out how to get them.

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Fuck that, don't even try. Instead, why don't you just

518
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call up Trump send him something shiny like I don't know,

519
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,279
a crown, and make sure that it comes with a

520
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certificate of authenticity. I don't know, maybe put some plaque

521
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that has a five pound of gold base to it,

522
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or maybe all from an aircraft, who the fuck knows.

523
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But there's no point anymore in trying to smuggle it,

524
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in trying to obtain it, trying to get the IP

525
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intellectual property schematics for it. Now, all you got to

526
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,720
do now is call up and say, mister President, sir, sir,

527
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you are truly making America great. You are the smartest,

528
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You are the most out of the box thinking president

529
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that the United States has had in two hundred and

530
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fifty years, which is no doubt the reason that they

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are going to place your face on the side of

532
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Mount Rushmore next to the other great Americans. It's no

533
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:46,839
wonder that they're naming the building International Building for Peace

534
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,559
after you. It's no wonder that they are to put

535
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:57,559
a acknowledgment of your incredibleness in front of Arlington Cemetery,

536
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in the in the of the Arc Dae Triomph, the

537
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Arctic Trump. It's no wonder, no wonder, no wonder, And

538
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we'd like to send you the FIFA two Piece Award

539
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because of just how amazing that you've been. By the way,

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would be okay if you just sent us one h

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two hundred chip so that you know, we can actually

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start to consider how America and China could work together.

543
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Absolutely absolutely, you know we've been friends for a long time, Raijiji.

544
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That's how it went. That's just literally how stupid I

545
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guarantee you the conversation went. And ultimately, when we take

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back the house and God willing to senate, which may

547
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even be a possibility now, they will start doing investigations

548
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and those phone calls are actually recorded, you will hear,

549
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probably verbatim, exactly what you just heard from me a

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second ago.

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that was big news out of Indiana for those just

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tuning in. Indiana rejected Trump's attempt to jerrymander despite all

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the pressure that Donald Trump put on them. You had

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the Heritage Foundation's Political Action Committee saying President Trump has

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made it clear to Indiana leaders if the Indiana Senate

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stripped from the state. Roads will not be paid, guard

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bases will close, major projects will stop. These are the stakes,

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and every no vote will be to blame. And they

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just said, you know, we're not doing that. The bill

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soundly defeated thirty one two nineteen pretty big, big stuff

638
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right there. You know, as part of this speech that

639
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Donald Trump gave, if if you even want to call

640
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it that, you know, he also did his weave where

641
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he just starts saying random things and he goes I

642
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call it the weave. I call it the weave. And

643
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it's just I want to get your take, Cohen, because

644
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you know, we've been following this deterioration in Trump's speech

645
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abilities and him falling, you know, closing his eyes, and

646
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,920
you say, that's what he's normally done. But just focus

647
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on the way he gives you know, these speeches now

648
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,599
it's just all over the place. It's just a bunch

649
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of word salad, even with.

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Speaker 2: No in all fairness, anytime he goes off script, that's

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what it becomes. In all fairness, I want everybody to

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go back, if you have the patience and the stomach

653
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:14,639
for it, and watch the very famous one where he

654
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descended down the Golden escalator and he talked about everything

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from Mexican's being rapist murderers, drug addicts, but some are

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good all the way to god knows what. When he

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goes on those rambles, none of it makes sense if

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he stays on script, which of course he never does.

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Then we don't have as much to talk about us

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rambling bullshit's been going on forever. You know.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the videos though in the first term, at

662
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those speeches. I've seen the twenty twenty election speeches, the

663
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twenty fifteen there's a in my opinion, a massive difference

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in how he speaks, how he delivers it. And well,

665
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let's just show you the weave. Here, play the score.

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Speaker 4: So it's November fifth, and it's also again it's a

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thing called tariffs. And I told you I was about

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to say that, you know, because I love the weaves.

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The weave, you know what the weave is, so here

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being being being being. You always have to get back

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to the right location. But otherwise they'll criticize you for

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stringing from the speech. If I, by the way, if

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I read for a turn the Telli property, you'll be

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falling asleep right down.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they'd be falling asleep right next to him

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in the Oval office. I mean, it's the same, it's

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the same stick over and over again. You see, here's

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the problem. I'm going to be very straightforward here, and

679
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I hope people take this for what it is. Donald

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Trump doesn't prepare. In fact, he didn't even read that speech.

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If he glanced through it while he was on the airplane,

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making a couple of notations here or there, that's the

683
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best that you can get. While he's standing up there,

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he gets a thought, and that thought has no logical

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basis into it. It's not predicated on accuracy. There's no

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data within which to support it. But it doesn't matter

687
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because it's in his head. And because it's in his head,

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he needs to talk about it, like that beautiful thing

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called tariff's. That's what he's talking about. This is none

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of it makes any sense. And what happens is he's

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bouncing all around because tariffs remind him of something else,

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and then he starts to talk about that, and then

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of course he has to talk about well, somehow tariff's

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remind him of Eric Swolwell, or reminds him of, for example,

695
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Adam Schiff, or reminds him of James Comi. Then he

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starts going into the whole thing about the Russia hoax.

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It's like there is no focus for it's It's like

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the old expression to throw spaghetti against the wall and

699
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,440
see what sticks. Well, that's what happens one thing leads

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to another, until ultimately he comes back and says, oh, yeah,

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I was supposed to be talking, came about the economy,

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and then he weaves his way back into that it's

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just unintelligible, is right. It's insane. The fact that people

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actually stand online or waste their entire evening listening to

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this nonsense. That's the thing. I really would like to

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have an investigation done on what's wrong with these people

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that they can turn around and waste all night long

708
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:27,679
to listen to some papplling nonsense. It doesn't mean it's

709
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,599
like going to a bar, right, and the whole purpose

710
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,960
is not really to have a drink, to shoot some pool,

711
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,719
but to find the drunkest guy there and to engage

712
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,840
him in a conversation on kite flying.

713
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 1: I want people in leadership positions who are prepared, especially

714
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,440
at the highest position that exists in the country, if

715
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,000
not the world. And I would normally say the world,

716
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,400
but Trump has made this presidency so small in the

717
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,400
world relative to Jijingping and others who's Trumps augmented that

718
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,719
I can't even say that the United States is like

719
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,039
the leader of the world anymore. Certainly, the noisiest in

720
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,119
the world. But is it the leader anymore? I'm not

721
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:13,079
sure it has that designation. But a lot of the

722
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:16,159
reasons that I even got in to talk about politics

723
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:18,760
is that I wasn't a political person, but the things

724
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:25,559
I was seeing that were being called politics, competence, facts, preparation, democracy.

725
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000
I was surprised that it was being viewed along political

726
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:32,159
lines when I was a lawyer and not doing this stuff.

727
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,000
And then I looked at it and I said, well,

728
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:38,519
you know, this stuff is impacting the country in a

729
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:42,480
way that is so detrimental and to the point that

730
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:45,480
you're making you go. He's never prepared and not to

731
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:51,039
me on all of these issues, this shoot from the hip,

732
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:58,840
and then his own way of processing the world through

733
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,719
this bizarre lens of conspiracy and derangement.

734
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,079
Speaker 2: And hate, anger anger.

735
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:10,639
Speaker 1: The outcomes are not positive outcomes, and that's the reason

736
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,920
why he's bankrupted so many things. He's been able to

737
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:20,840
rally people around projects in an unprecedented way in this

738
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,679
country's history, if not the world, to to movement to

739
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:30,320
do things the presidency, but then when he's there, he

740
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,559
then just it's it's all based on these lies and

741
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:38,639
bringing people through through all of these fabrications, and then you.

742
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:40,119
Speaker 2: Know what the worst part of that is, you know

743
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,559
the old expression monkey see monkey do Yeah. Okay, you

744
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:49,400
have the chief monkey doing this, and for whatever the

745
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,800
reason may be, people have become expecting of him to

746
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,280
do this. But he now has an entire team of stupids.

747
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:02,400
They're like the they're like the strategy team of stupidity,

748
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,920
where like Nutlick comes up and they're starting again with

749
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:11,440
the gold with the Trump visa gold card. And if

750
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,280
you really have five million dollars to throw away and

751
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,039
you don't want to pay America's taxes, well you could

752
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,280
pay Uncle Sam today the low, low, low, low low

753
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,639
price of a merely five million dollars to skip the

754
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,199
line without for a single second thinking who are the

755
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,159
people that are actually going to be the ones spending

756
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:33,400
the one million or the five million dollars? I don't know,

757
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:39,880
drug dealers, money launderers. How about Russian oligarchs that can't

758
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,159
get into the country because they're on the band list.

759
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,719
Well you can, now, sir, jump past that entire line

760
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,559
for the mere price of one million dollars. Mazzle, what

761
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,760
a great way to do it. The billions and billions

762
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,280
of dollars maybe to fix the entire budget. Well, if

763
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,519
the number of people who want to come here really

764
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,239
really and then they when they shit all over the

765
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,920
person who's coming here to the border that they can't

766
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,760
afford a million dollars, they don't have them sitting around

767
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,519
that they're not the drug dealers, the money launders, or

768
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:14,280
the Russian oligarchs or oligarchs from the various different countries. Instead,

769
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,360
that's what you get. You get somebody that's lying to

770
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,559
you and trying to tell you how great this project

771
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:25,119
is without even really thinking. But it gets worse because

772
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:30,280
then you have an investigation into Ice, and you get

773
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,559
Christineome called now before the committee, and what does she

774
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,800
do right to your face, with the arrogance of I

775
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,119
guess our president. They turn around and they lie right

776
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:48,360
to the American people. Fuck the thousand and one violation

777
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:52,079
of knowingly lying to Congress. That doesn't matter to any

778
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,920
of them. They all feel empowered to do and to

779
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,519
say what you want. And just as soon as you've

780
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:02,199
finished throwing up from a Christinome cabinet, hearing well out

781
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,039
Prance's machine gun lips Levitt herself within which to promote

782
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:11,280
and regurgitate the same lies and bullshit over and over

783
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,840
and over again. This is the whole problem. And this

784
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,440
is why I constantly say, this is the network that

785
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:21,800
you come to if you want truth, if you want accuracy.

786
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,199
You may not like everything that I say to me, personally,

787
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,199
I don't care, because what I'm saying is what I know.

788
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,639
What you're what you're thinking, is just what you feel.

789
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,599
There's a little bit of a difference here, but at

790
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:35,199
the end of the day, we're all looking to get

791
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,519
to the same to the same final destination, and that's

792
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,440
a House and a Senate controlled by Democrats, to put

793
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,840
an end to this stupidity once and.

794
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: For all, now and again. My view of that though, isn't.

795
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,199
My view of it though, isn't even from a political way.

796
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,639
I want thinking people who can plan, who are organized,

797
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:03,199
who are listening to what the American people are saying,

798
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:07,000
who are coming up with plans. You know, we may

799
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:11,199
you may like Obamacare, or you may not like Obamacare.

800
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,800
My own preference, I like single payer medicare for all.

801
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:18,679
But I think Obamacare is a good faith attempt to

802
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,639
try to address market forces that exist in the insurance

803
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,480
industry while making healthcare accessible by expanding risk pools and

804
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:31,079
ending discrimination on the basis of pre existing conditions, and

805
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:34,320
trying to ensure twenty to thirty million Americans given the

806
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,840
complexities that exist within the insurance industry and that people

807
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,519
get their insurance largely through employers, and the way that's

808
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:44,639
shaped out, But it was a detailed plan, thousands of

809
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,679
pages that focused on all aspects of it, where are

810
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:50,159
you're going to buy it, how is it going to

811
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:53,639
be delivered? And then there's attempts to fix it along

812
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:57,519
the way, but it's a plan, right, And then the

813
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,440
subsidies were layered on because whoa, the price is getting

814
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:03,840
too high and the money is going to insurance companies

815
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,639
to how do we make this better versus whatever the

816
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,039
hell Trump and Maga is doing is just, hey, you

817
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,199
just get rid of insurance in general, just they don't

818
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:14,039
need it, by the way, when they're actually helping the

819
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,719
insurance companies, and then just give people a check.

820
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:17,679
Speaker 2: They we're gonna do.

821
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,119
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you two thousand dollars, which you're gonna

822
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,639
be rich, and then you're gonna take that two thousand

823
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,360
and you're gonna buy insurance. Well, they're not gonna give

824
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,480
you the two thousand dollars check they're lying about them.

825
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:30,800
But even assume they give you the two thousand, you

826
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,119
want to know how expensive chemo is. You want to

827
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,679
know how expensive a surgery is, or a procedure is. Hint,

828
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,519
it's more than.

829
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,599
Speaker 2: A cat skin. It will cost you more so the temo.

830
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:47,039
Speaker 1: So it fundamentally just is It's just. It's like saying

831
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:50,559
twenty three trillion dollars. It's just it's stupid, and it's

832
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:56,079
based on things that are just not grappling with you know,

833
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:58,400
with with with reality. I want to bring this up

834
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,880
too though, you know, before we go, do you know

835
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,559
which is we talked about how look, Trump's past is

836
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:07,760
riddled with these bankruptcies, bankruptcies of casinos and failed businesses.

837
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:14,039
It's also tainted with a felony and he's been found

838
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:18,280
civilly reliable for sexual abuse in a civil case brought

839
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,320
against him. He's been on videotape saying that he grabs

840
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,400
women by genitals because when you're rich, they let you

841
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,679
do it, or words to that, you know, to that effect.

842
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:32,559
He's behaving in office in line with those things, right,

843
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:40,519
like covering up the Epstein files bankrupting the country, pardoning

844
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,840
drug trafficking people, and pardoning Ponzi schemers who are engaged

845
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,320
in massive, massive, billion dollar frauds. Right, So he's doing

846
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,960
those things. But then there's this one other point that

847
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,119
I want to connect because we remember in the nineteen

848
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:57,440
seventies or so, one of the things that that Trump

849
00:50:57,519 --> 00:50:59,960
was accused of doing in his buildings with his dad

850
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,400
was denying the ability of black people to access you know,

851
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:08,320
those buildings, and Trump with the Central Park, Central Park

852
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,280
five or six, you know, saying that they should get

853
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,360
the death penalty, you know. And then Donald Trump at

854
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,599
his speech in Pennsylvania says that why are we bringing

855
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:21,920
people from African countries into the United States? And he says,

856
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:28,280
these are shithole countries. These are disgusting, disgusting, filthy, dirty places.

857
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,280
And what Trump's saying though, and when you go you

858
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,639
know which we hear him and he goes, we need

859
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:38,800
people from Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. So the gold card,

860
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,440
right is their way in his mind of doing what

861
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,280
he did in the seventies. He wants to stop black

862
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,119
people from getting into the United States, and he wants

863
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:50,760
to figure out a way to incentivize. Why the gold

864
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,440
card is a way for him to say, is this

865
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:59,119
a way to basically, you know, do the.

866
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,519
Speaker 2: But Ben, I'm so sorry, don't Jeremy, don't take this

867
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:02,239
picture down.

868
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,079
Speaker 6: I want our brigade, I want I want our brigaders

869
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:10,320
to take a look at this facacta card. First of all,

870
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,320
the United States of America is like in fourteen point

871
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,519
font right. Trump gold card in the same his signature

872
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,599
probably in eighteen fronts. But look at the size of

873
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,800
the American flag there at the.

874
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,199
Speaker 2: Bottom left corner. Look at somewhere off over camera right

875
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,679
or his left shoulder, it's called camera right, is a

876
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,000
tiny little statue of liberty. Right, Look at the bald

877
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:39,199
eagle basically hanging out there by his front jacket pocket.

878
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,599
Look at the size of Donald Trump in this. This

879
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,960
is if you're going to create, for whatever reason, a

880
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:51,280
gold card, right, Seriously, shouldn't it have the United States

881
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,480
of American? It may be the statue of liberty two

882
00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:58,119
immigrants come here right to our country. Maybe it would

883
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:02,559
have a giant bold eagle or something like that. No, no,

884
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:08,239
and no, it's all about the branding. He's legitimately trying

885
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,000
to rebrand the United States of America into his image.

886
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:16,320
Whether it's gonna be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary

887
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,400
coin that will have his name on his face on

888
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,400
front and back, Whether it's gonna be the picture of

889
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,599
him hanging off the side of the FED building, whether

890
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:28,039
it's gonna be the Arc the Trump whether it's gonna

891
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,639
be the Trump Ballroom, whether it's gonna be the bumpla

892
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,000
bah blah bah. It doesn't make a difference. He is

893
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:37,880
literally in front of us in real time, rebranding this

894
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:42,360
country to the name Trump, playing in the Trump I

895
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,719
think it's insane.

896
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,079
Speaker 1: It's the Trump Gold Card, the Trump Platinum Card, the

897
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,639
Trump Corporate Gold Card. And did you see the Trump

898
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,559
branded National park passes? So the annual park pass where

899
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:01,159
people want to go to all the name park. You know,

900
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,559
you buy him as one and you can then visit

901
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:06,159
all of the parks, right, and then every year people

902
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,639
look forward to it's usually an image of like the

903
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,880
bison or a bald eagle, or you know, something that's

904
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,000
in a national park. Cohen, what's your prediction of what

905
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:19,800
the card looks like this year?

906
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: It would definitely have Trump Trump's face onto it. And

907
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,519
by the way, if you noticed, the only day now

908
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,360
where it's free to go into the National Park is

909
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,159
Trump's birthday. Why because he wants everybody to know exactly

910
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,039
what his birthday.

911
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: It is.

912
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: No more Juneteenth, no more Martin Luther King, no more

913
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,440
of any of that, no more so.

914
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:44,119
Speaker 1: Now it's a photo of him and George Washington. And

915
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,519
that's your forced if you get this annual pass to

916
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:50,039
have an annual And people are so pissed because people

917
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:53,079
love going to these parks, and Trump's destroying the parks,

918
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:56,920
Like the guy who's ripping the parks to shreds is

919
00:54:57,039 --> 00:54:59,719
the guy who put his face just so our audience

920
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,400
can see what it looks like. That's the new card.

921
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,000
And people are like, really, as he's destroying the parks,

922
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,239
he's putting a space on it, going two fingers salute.

923
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,960
Who's it going to go to?

924
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: Oh, it has to go to Christineome. There's nobody else

925
00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:14,360
right now that I could think of that deserves it more.

926
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,400
I'm sitting here and I am literally just agast at

927
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,719
the fact that they brought this. I forget who it was,

928
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,280
Ben join me for this one. Who was it again?

929
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:33,440
That turnaround was asking her the questions about deporting magazine

930
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:37,519
or exactly, turns around and said, have you deported any

931
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,320
Americans in your I say it's absolutely none, sir, and

932
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,639
he goes, are you sure, absolutely none? Well, I'd like

933
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,480
to then present somebody on zoom. This this gentleman who

934
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:57,800
was deported to back to South Korea for this country,

935
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,880
was wounded, was shot twice, received two separate Purple Hearts,

936
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,679
and for whatever reason it might be, they deported him

937
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,159
back to a country, South Korea, where he hasn't been

938
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:20,079
since he was seven years old. And all that the

939
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:22,679
guy did is turn around and say, would you care

940
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,559
to apologize? Would you say this has been She couldn't

941
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,400
even apologize to a veteran who was injured, who was shot,

942
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:39,559
who received the Purple Heart award twice, improperly deported, remained

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still in South Korea. She didn't even have the decency,

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She didn't have the fortitude within which to say, I apologize,

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What can we do to bring you back? We made

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a mistake. No, No, everything that we have done we

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have done correctly by the book. He was here illegally

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forgetting his service to this country, and for that, for

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the disrespect to the veterans, to the disrespect to everybody

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who has literally been harmed by this asshole, this Christinoman asshole,

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this bullshit, these ice raids, whether it's being shot in

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the head with a pepper with a pepper bowl, or

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sprayed in the face with pepper spray, or tackled to

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the ground, or just simply like what they did to

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that small Spanish girl, threw her up into the wall,

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bouncing off and smacking her head. To all of them

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who deserve an apology, where this entire ice stupidity has

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to come to an end, CHRISTINEO, there's nobody who deserves

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the two things salute this week more than you, so Christy,

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to you and to your little boy toy Cory, fuck

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you both.

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Speaker 1: And she left that here. She couldn't even stay in

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the hearing for more than like an hour, and she lied,

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she lied, and said that she had to go chair

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the FEMA Review Council meeting, which was canceled, and so

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she left. Then she started taking selfies with some of

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the MAGA people who were outside, and she didn't even

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stay through the whole hearing. The again the level of

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just like these people hate America, they truly like, they

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truly hate America and they're in it for themselves and

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we just have to call it out and what it is.

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Great episode. We covered a lot of topics. Reminder, make

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Show tonight at eight eastern by Pacific. Thanks Cohen for everything,

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Thank you Brother, and thank you beat Down Brigador. Shout

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out to you and shout out to the Midas Mighty.

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Speaker 2: Take him Down.