Speaker 1: Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
Speaker 1: I want to welcome back to the show Wayne McRoy.
Speaker 1: He is an author and researcher who explores the hidden
Speaker 1: agendas linking modern technologies to their ancient alchemical roots and antiquity. Wayne,
Speaker 1: welcome back. How you doing good?
Speaker 2: Chris? Good to be here. Always a pleasure, my friend.
Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to you. I love our conversations,
Speaker 1: really enjoy the research you're doing. And today we're going
Speaker 1: to dive into what you're calling synchronistic metadata and its
Speaker 1: effects on the human mind. As I began my spiritual
Speaker 1: journey of awareness, I started to realize how not only
Speaker 1: there's a synchronistic element to our reality, but our reality
Speaker 1: may fundamentally operate off of what we can only describe
Speaker 1: in our modern age as algorithms or some sort of
Speaker 1: simulated reality. And these understanding are just based on our
Speaker 1: current technological level of awareness. But there's also a layer
Speaker 1: of reality that has been overlaid over our baseline reality,
Speaker 1: and it's constantly evolving from radio and television and now
Speaker 1: social media, the internet, learning algorithms, and artificial intelligence, and
Speaker 1: it's become extremely difficult at times to navigate information online
Speaker 1: as well as do the kind of work that we're doing,
Speaker 1: like sharing research, and when we combine the possibility that
Speaker 1: our technology is being used in alchemical or even ritualistic ways,
Speaker 1: that opens up some pretty insane possibilities, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: we're going to get into today. So I'm very much
Speaker 1: looking forward to learning more about your research and all
Speaker 1: about synchronistic metadata. But before we do, it's been a
Speaker 1: while since you've been on. Remind the audience a little
Speaker 1: bit about yourself, where they can find you, and what
Speaker 1: brought you to this work that you're doing.
Speaker 2: All right, Man, always appreciated people could find me over
Speaker 2: at my website. I've centralized everything there at www dot
Speaker 2: Alchemical tech revolution dot com. What brought me to this
Speaker 2: was a lot of different things that I had seen
Speaker 2: going on in the world around me. I've always had
Speaker 2: a very curious mind and have always been drawn to
Speaker 2: the esoteric and these types of things. So through the
Speaker 2: course of the years, many different things that have happened
Speaker 2: in my life, a confluence of events brought me looking
Speaker 2: down these various rabbit holes, and I like to tell
Speaker 2: people I accidentally became an expert in a cult philosophy
Speaker 2: because of that, and that pretty much describes where we're
Speaker 2: coming from with this. So what I've attempted to do
Speaker 2: is deconstruct some of what we see going on in
Speaker 2: the reality around us and come up with terms or
Speaker 2: names for these different bits of information out there in
Speaker 2: the information field, the overall general information field, so that
Speaker 2: we can better understand what it is we're talking about
Speaker 2: and connect the dots. So I have come to recognize
Speaker 2: this as what I like to call synchronistic metadata, and
Speaker 2: it is always out there in the ether for people
Speaker 2: to pick apart in order to connect the dots and
Speaker 2: see things out there encoded in the esoteric background of
Speaker 2: all of this in the term that I like to use,
Speaker 2: which is the Zeitgeist, which is a German word which
Speaker 2: means spirit of the time. And I like that term
Speaker 2: because there is a spiritual component to all of this
Speaker 2: that oftentimes gets overlooked. Now, everybody seems to agree that
Speaker 2: there is this broad information field that exists, it's just
Speaker 2: they call it different things, depending upon what type of
Speaker 2: a lens of observation you're looking at it from. Now
Speaker 2: in the occult, oftentimes they'll refer to this as the
Speaker 2: acacic record, or they call it ancestral memory. This kind
Speaker 2: of thing in the science is they'll call this genetic
Speaker 2: memory or epigenetic memory. They will call it, depending upon
Speaker 2: another frame of reference that you look at it as
Speaker 2: through the field of physics, they call it the quantum
Speaker 2: information field. So they refer to this. They all agree,
Speaker 2: all of these various different places and positions agree that
Speaker 2: this information field exists, but they don't agree on what
Speaker 2: to call it. So I like to apply the term
Speaker 2: Zeitgeist to this, because, like I said, there is a
Speaker 2: broader spiritual component to it that also takes precedent in
Speaker 2: many of these things. So when I'm talking about the zeitgeist,
Speaker 2: this is the greater information field. And when I'm talking
Speaker 2: about what I call synchromistic metadata, that is little disparate
Speaker 2: bits of information out there in the zeitgeist, in the
Speaker 2: information field that point in a particular direction. So sometimes
Speaker 2: these things look disparate and unconnected, but they still have
Speaker 2: an influence on the unconscious human mind. And this influence
Speaker 2: it has on the unconscious human mind will at some
Speaker 2: point affect you subconsciously and alter your conscious behavior. Now,
Speaker 2: the premise that I come at this from is there
Speaker 2: exists in this world a power structure where at the
Speaker 2: very top it's a pyramid scheme. Right, we all kind
Speaker 2: of agree on that it's all kind of centralized control
Speaker 2: from the top down. Now, what I've identified through the
Speaker 2: course of my studies is that at the tippy top
Speaker 2: of this power pyramid in this world there exists a
Speaker 2: group of dark occultists who run things, that's what I
Speaker 2: like to call them, and just beneath them in the
Speaker 2: pecking order are what they call their little minions that
Speaker 2: run around and get things done. The technocrats. Now, these
Speaker 2: are oftentimes considered they're useful idiots who get things done,
Speaker 2: and many people might have a problem with this type
Speaker 2: of an approach, but I think it's demonstrable when you
Speaker 2: really delve into these things that at the topmost levels
Speaker 2: there are occultists who have used the dark side of
Speaker 2: things to influence the power structure of this world. So
Speaker 2: when you keep that in mind, you know that at
Speaker 2: the topmost levels they are aware, well aware of some
Speaker 2: of these occult principles that they use, and they leverage
Speaker 2: against the masses for purposes of control in advancing their
Speaker 2: own agendas. And then they also have the class of
Speaker 2: people that go out and get it done. They have
Speaker 2: the movers and shakers, the policy makers of this world,
Speaker 2: whom I call the technocrats. Now that's just how I
Speaker 2: observe this. You could apply whatever terms to this you
Speaker 2: would like, but certainly it's demonstrable. This is how it
Speaker 2: happens from top down control. Now there's also, aside from that,
Speaker 2: a spiritual component to this, as I had alluded to,
Speaker 2: so oftentimes it would seem that there's a beyond human
Speaker 2: intelligence that guides and directs these things and sometimes puts
Speaker 2: these bits of information out there in the greater zeitgeist
Speaker 2: to influence the human mind. And this is wherein things
Speaker 2: get a little bit more devious, because we realize that
Speaker 2: there's powers beyond human involved in this. Then you begin
Speaker 2: to understand a little bit clearer some of the evils
Speaker 2: that have been done by these dark ocultists who run things,
Speaker 2: and of course the spiritual components that give them their
Speaker 2: marching orders and direct and steer the greater zeitgeist at times.
Speaker 2: And then these technocrat minions that run around and do things,
Speaker 2: the policy makers, the names you're probably familiar with at
Speaker 2: the top levels of the pecking order here in this
Speaker 2: world that are sometimes associated with various agendas. So when
Speaker 2: you understand that, what we do is we look at
Speaker 2: these little bits of synchronistic metadata and we could connect
Speaker 2: some dots there and show the occult underpinnings of a
Speaker 2: lot of this. And myself and my friend Richard Willett
Speaker 2: over in the UK have recently launched a brand new
Speaker 2: podcast called Synchronistic and we attempt to decipher some of
Speaker 2: this out there in this greater information field and point
Speaker 2: in the directions that it's leading to. So I know
Speaker 2: that's a lot to kind of frame this conversation with.
Speaker 2: But did you want to go in any particular direction here,
Speaker 2: like any particular types.
Speaker 1: Well, well, maybe we could start with where are modern
Speaker 1: technological alchemical infiltration really begaan and maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: of a time frame that this has occurred over.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, this stuff has been present with us from
Speaker 2: the very beginning of our civilization. So when you really
Speaker 2: go and look back, you look back at all these
Speaker 2: old alchemical principles and the old sciences, the old natural sciences, Well,
Speaker 2: these things have been understood by this controlling priest craft,
Speaker 2: this priest class throughout all of our recorded time so
Speaker 2: they have kept some of these secrets of the ages
Speaker 2: hidden from mankind, and they've misapplied and misused them for
Speaker 2: their own greedy agendas. And this is what has gone on.
Speaker 2: So we've had this division in classes in this world.
Speaker 2: This creates a type of class warfare where you have
Speaker 2: the quote unquote elites and then you have the rest
Speaker 2: of us. And they have hidden purposefully a lot of
Speaker 2: the information that they know about the old natural sciences
Speaker 2: and aw chemical sciences from us. And a lot of
Speaker 2: this is coming back into the light of day in
Speaker 2: the modern era with some of the advances in our
Speaker 2: technologies and our capabilities, and certainly all of these things
Speaker 2: we're seeing happen on a technological level today are derived
Speaker 2: from some of these old mystery school teachings about these
Speaker 2: old sciences, and they've The problem with this is what
Speaker 2: has happened is in the modern era, a lot of
Speaker 2: this has been misapplied and misappropriated by these people for
Speaker 2: their own agendas. So it's all about control at the
Speaker 2: end the day. These people want to become gods in
Speaker 2: no uncertain terms, and they see the use of high
Speaker 2: technology as their way to do that. And the misapplication
Speaker 2: of these principles to do that, as to how to
Speaker 2: get it done, and of course this always culminates in
Speaker 2: what we call the transhumanist notion. So that's where we're
Speaker 2: heading with this, and all of these different disparate bits
Speaker 2: of information out there seem to point in that direction.
Speaker 2: So it is an agenda as old as time itself.
Speaker 2: But the big turnaround, turning point in it that I've
Speaker 2: come across every time I go throughout my research looking
Speaker 2: at this and going back through the history of the
Speaker 2: occult and occultism and the various secret society groups, I
Speaker 2: always find turning points at very particular points in history.
Speaker 2: And one of the big turning points in history is
Speaker 2: in the mid to late eighteen hundreds when a lot
Speaker 2: of these notions came to see the light of day
Speaker 2: and have been presented out there in different forums where
Speaker 2: they hadn't been present before. And what has happened is
Speaker 2: they've taken these principles, the original alchemical principles that were
Speaker 2: intended for good and intended for the understanding of the
Speaker 2: workings of nature, and they've inverted them and turned them
Speaker 2: completely upside down on their head in order to create
Speaker 2: a completely synthetic reality, and that's what these people are
Speaker 2: all about, these dark occultists at the top of the
Speaker 2: power structure. It's all about an artificial knockoff of the
Speaker 2: natural order that they can be the gods of. So
Speaker 2: that's what they've done. They've taken these principles and misapplied
Speaker 2: them with the inversion principle and put that firmly in place.
Speaker 2: So I always tell people, if you want a true
Speaker 2: definition of what Satanism is, it's the inversion principle that
Speaker 2: is the pure doctrine of Satanism. So when you understand that,
Speaker 2: when people are saying it's a Satanic conspiracy, they're not wrong,
Speaker 2: but maybe they're thinking about it from the wrong frame
Speaker 2: of reference. But it is the inversion principle applied. And
Speaker 2: that's what these people have done. They've taken these old
Speaker 2: occulted bits of knowledge of the natural sciences and they've
Speaker 2: misapplied them for their own gains, and in so doing,
Speaker 2: they've caused the inversion of these processes, these natural processes,
Speaker 2: and they have created this situation that we have today
Speaker 2: where we have this class disparity, we have this information
Speaker 2: disparity between the ruling class and the rest of us.
Speaker 2: And they do see themselves as a ruling class. And
Speaker 2: there's various reasons for this, but at any rate, that's
Speaker 2: kind of where I come from my approach.
Speaker 1: Before we get deeper into the manufactured level of synchronisticism
Speaker 1: that we deal with on a daily basis, let's go
Speaker 1: back to the natural order of things and how we
Speaker 1: experience synchronicity naturally. To the best of your ability, how
Speaker 1: would you describe the mechanics behind this? What do you
Speaker 1: believe is this form of communication? What is the purpose?
Speaker 1: Do you think it is some sort of intelligence that
Speaker 1: is guiding us either on a personal or even collective basis.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, there are spiritual components to this,
Speaker 2: and this falls back on various hierarchies of spiritual powers
Speaker 2: as explored by many thinkers, not only in the occult,
Speaker 2: but in the religious circles and framework as well. So
Speaker 2: you have these angelic orders of beings and these fallen
Speaker 2: angelic orders of beings that have some influence and sway here,
Speaker 2: and you have other spiritual entities, intelligences, forces, however you
Speaker 2: want to frame this, that guide indirect things, things like
Speaker 2: elementals that have been explored by Paracelsus and others, these
Speaker 2: powers that seem to have an effect here in this reality.
Speaker 2: And what it all boils down to is there's intelligent
Speaker 2: design present in this creation that we live in. There
Speaker 2: is an intelligent order. There are natural forces in processes
Speaker 2: and intelligences that guide indirect the building and the manifestation
Speaker 2: of things here. So when you understand that that there's
Speaker 2: an intelligence inherent in all of it, and that would
Speaker 2: be the essence of in quality of life itself present
Speaker 2: in all of it, then you have a better and
Speaker 2: clearer picture of what we have here now our modern
Speaker 2: day science or scientism more rightly called what have you?
Speaker 2: Believe that there's nothing other than this physical reality in
Speaker 2: which we live and exist and have our being, and
Speaker 2: that one day nothing exploded and became everything that we
Speaker 2: see in experience here, and that is the nature of
Speaker 2: reality according to the materialists who want you to buy
Speaker 2: into that paradigm. Now this is part of the control
Speaker 2: paradigm as well. They want you to think in terms
Speaker 2: of this physical reality being all that there is, and
Speaker 2: all phenomena could be explained away as some cause and
Speaker 2: effect sequence in this physical reality, Even things like consciousness.
Speaker 2: They want you to believe consciousness is little more than
Speaker 2: the byproduct of the electrochemical activity of the brain and
Speaker 2: brain stem. So if you believe that, then you're caught
Speaker 2: in what I like to call the hyper materialist paradigm.
Speaker 2: And here's where the rub comes in with this. If
Speaker 2: they can thoroughly convince you that consciousness is nothing more
Speaker 2: than the byproduct of the electrochemical activity of your brain
Speaker 2: and brain stem, then theoretically it could be reproduced via algorithm.
Speaker 2: And if it could be reproduced via algorithm, then your
Speaker 2: consciousness could live on in a machine. And this is
Speaker 2: where the transhumanist notion of things comes into being. And
Speaker 2: this is what they firmly want you to believe. They
Speaker 2: want you to believe you can live forever in some
Speaker 2: type of a digital realm, that they've created a synthetic realm,
Speaker 2: which is a cheap knockoff of the real deal here
Speaker 2: and what I'm saying here essentially is this, if you
Speaker 2: study into occultism and into a lot of these old
Speaker 2: mystery school teachings and the cosmo conception of a lot
Speaker 2: of them, you will discover that they believe and they teach.
Speaker 2: And I can't say whether this is true or not,
Speaker 2: but there's people in positions of power in this world
Speaker 2: that believes this is true. So the things they do
Speaker 2: to act on it will affect all of us, so
Speaker 2: it's important you understand it. They believe that there is
Speaker 2: a subplane of this physical reality called the etheric realm
Speaker 2: or the etheric world, the ether being a portion thereof.
Speaker 2: So essentially what's being done is they are synthetically manufacturing
Speaker 2: a false etheric layer to this reality, and that is
Speaker 2: called the digital realm, it's called metaverse, it's called Web
Speaker 2: three point zero. That's what's going on in the background
Speaker 2: behind all of this, and this is where technology and
Speaker 2: occultism kind of meet in the middle on a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff. So that is essentially what they're trying
Speaker 2: to And if you dig deeply enough into some of
Speaker 2: these old ocult teachings and belief systems, there's an important
Speaker 2: principle involved here, because you see if you look into
Speaker 2: I like to use the Rosicrucian Cosmo conception as a
Speaker 2: good example because it delineates it pretty clearly for most
Speaker 2: people to understand. There's this stepping down phase from divine
Speaker 2: source into manifestation in physical reality, and through this process,
Speaker 2: the step just above where we are in the physical
Speaker 2: reality here, which is the lowest phase. According to them,
Speaker 2: they say, we live in the dense chemical region of
Speaker 2: physical reality, and just above us is this etheric region. Well,
Speaker 2: manifestation is a stepping down process. So in order for
Speaker 2: something to begin to manifest physically in this dense chemical region,
Speaker 2: first it must begin to manifest in the etheric region.
Speaker 2: Thus they want to build this digital etheric region, and
Speaker 2: it's a false knockoff. Now, I know this is probably
Speaker 2: a little deep in a bridge too far for some people.
Speaker 2: But what you need to understand is it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if you believe it or not. There's people in positions
Speaker 2: of power in this world that do and the things
Speaker 2: they do to act on their beliefs affect all of us.
Speaker 2: So it's important that you understand why and how they
Speaker 2: do the things they do. So this is the whole
Speaker 2: notion of why they are attempting to digitize everything, even
Speaker 2: human consciousness, because this falls into the category if you
Speaker 2: delve into the realms of hermetic science and the Kabbalah,
Speaker 2: this is the creation of what they call the world
Speaker 2: of shells. The world of shells being this gross materiality,
Speaker 2: devoid of any spirit, and that's what they're attempting to
Speaker 2: create because they could be the gods of that region
Speaker 2: if that's the case. So I know that's a lot
Speaker 2: to take in, but I was wondering if you wanted
Speaker 2: to go any particular direction with any of that.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of directions that we could go. But from
Speaker 1: everything that I've learned, our reality unfolds greatly based on
Speaker 1: our perception of things, and in our modern age, it's
Speaker 1: very easy to control perception, especially if you're a person
Speaker 1: that believes what you're seeing on the news that you
Speaker 1: if you spend a lot of time on social media,
Speaker 1: watching TV, being brainwashed, this will affect your reality. And
Speaker 1: I like to link this to people's paranormal experiences, UFO sightings,
Speaker 1: alien encounters, where I've interviewed so many people who have
Speaker 1: had these experiences, but it seems to be heavily based
Speaker 1: on their perception at the time or even traumatic experiences
Speaker 1: that they've had. It seems if they start to have
Speaker 1: negative paranormal or metaphysical encounters, that will perpetuate itself and
Speaker 1: reflect itself in their daily lives as well.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: But on the other token, people I speak to who
Speaker 1: have a pretty bright outlook on life and have these
Speaker 1: paranormal experiences, usually have very positive experiences, and it seems
Speaker 1: to be all based on the way we view things
Speaker 1: at the time. But when we add in this perception
Speaker 1: management factor, there's all kinds of doors that can open,
Speaker 1: especially with what we're seeing. I believe with this whole
Speaker 1: UFO phenomena.
Speaker 2: Oh most certainly I agree with you there, and this
Speaker 2: is all part of it. And these are all bits
Speaker 2: of this synchronistic metadata that I'm talking about. So it
Speaker 2: affects some people differently than others, but it does have
Speaker 2: an effect on the unconscious human mind, and that's the
Speaker 2: important point here. So what you need to understand is
Speaker 2: things that were framed by the likes of Carl Jung
Speaker 2: about what he calls this information field that we're referring
Speaker 2: to here that I like to call the zeitgeist. He
Speaker 2: calls it the collective unconscious and that is a huge
Speaker 2: part of this. So they put symbols and signs and
Speaker 2: words and phrases and things like this out there for
Speaker 2: us to take in in our unconscious mind, and it
Speaker 2: will affect us because we represent well, I should say,
Speaker 2: we recognize the archetype that's represented by that symbol, those words,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. And this is what I call
Speaker 2: the synchronistic metadata. So when you take in these little
Speaker 2: bits of metadata and your brain unconsciously connects the dots
Speaker 2: with these things, it affects your future behavior. And most
Speaker 2: people are completely unaware that this goes on. And it's
Speaker 2: a very very complex type of way of thinking of this,
Speaker 2: but it could be broken down in some simple concepts.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm attempting to do by trying to
Speaker 2: make this information available to people, give people tools that
Speaker 2: they could work with to recognize the patterns that emerge. Like,
Speaker 2: for example, we see repeat patterns going on all the time,
Speaker 2: don't we in the world around us? Yea, let's think
Speaker 2: back a couple months here. We have all of this
Speaker 2: UAP phenomenon, UFO phenomenon, all of these mystery drones. And
Speaker 2: notice the language they use to describe these mystery drones. Well,
Speaker 2: this is a direct allusion to the mystery schools. So
Speaker 2: it's mystery drones. They're trying to reconceptualize the concept of
Speaker 2: what this is and steer the human minds thinking on this.
Speaker 2: So now when you see lights in the sky. You're
Speaker 2: not thinking, hey, that's UFOs, that's aliens up there, like
Speaker 2: they would have had you believe in prior times. Well
Speaker 2: now they want you to think, oh, that's drones. Those
Speaker 2: are unidentified drones. So see how they affect your mind
Speaker 2: in subtle ways that maybe you don't recognize on a
Speaker 2: conscious level. But they know this and that's why they've
Speaker 2: reapplied these types of terms. So this is all part
Speaker 2: of the greater pattern. What I was getting to here
Speaker 2: is we see this rise of appearances of these weird
Speaker 2: things in the sky, and then shortly after that, what
Speaker 2: do we have, Well, we have massive natural disaster wildfires.
Speaker 2: This is a repeated type of a pattern. If you
Speaker 2: go back, you look at the events of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: Australia was on fire. There was a flap just prior
Speaker 2: to that of UFO sightings, UAP sightings and that phenomenon
Speaker 2: being in the news media. Then Australia was on fire,
Speaker 2: and then we have all kinds of rollouts of these
Speaker 2: different how should we say, pandemic type situations and things
Speaker 2: like that that always seem to occur in the timeline.
Speaker 2: With this fast forward a little bit we have UFO
Speaker 2: sightings again being frequently talked about in the media, and
Speaker 2: then the massive wildfires in Hawaii once again, and then
Speaker 2: talk of another pandemic or potential pandemic situation. It's a
Speaker 2: repeated pattern. See, and I could demonstrate that that's just
Speaker 2: three times now that we've seen within the past couple
Speaker 2: of years where we could recognize this same pattern. That's
Speaker 2: part of this. That's the synchronistic metadata. It's pattern recognition. Now,
Speaker 2: what exactly does all this point to? And mean, I
Speaker 2: don't have the exact answer to that yet, but I'm
Speaker 2: exploring and trying to figure this stuff out, putting the
Speaker 2: dots together to see. But you could see what patterns
Speaker 2: begin to emerge on the other side of that when
Speaker 2: you recognize, hey, this is very similar to that event
Speaker 2: that happened, then well what happened next? And see, this
Speaker 2: is the problem we have in the modern era because
Speaker 2: our attention spans have been whittled down so much, we
Speaker 2: don't really remember exactly what happened next because it's constant,
Speaker 2: one thing after another after another in the news cycle
Speaker 2: that we see. And this is one of their favorite
Speaker 2: programming motifs, is the news media so They use this
Speaker 2: to influence the human mind and a lot of subf
Speaker 2: ways that maybe we don't recognize. So after, of course
Speaker 2: these fires, and just leading up to these fires, they
Speaker 2: pulled off an operation on New Year's Day here in America.
Speaker 2: A couple different things happening simultaneously. Of course, we have
Speaker 2: the terror incident in New Orleans where the guy literally
Speaker 2: had an ISIS flag in the back of his truck.
Speaker 2: That seems to me to be a little problematic. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 2: why would you how come nobody caught this, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? The guy's driving around with an ISIS
Speaker 2: flag on his truck. Doesn't make a bit of sense.
Speaker 2: And then simultaneously in Las Vegas in front of the
Speaker 2: Trump Hotel, who had the Tesla cyber truck explode into
Speaker 2: a fiery blaze fire once again kind of preordaining what
Speaker 2: was about to come in California. So you see all
Speaker 2: of these patterns emerge all the time. So this is
Speaker 2: telling me a lot of things. Because this occurred on
Speaker 2: New Year's Day, This is another important factor. They like
Speaker 2: to use different cycles of time to present different types
Speaker 2: of motifs into the greater zeitgeist. Well, they use this
Speaker 2: as a means of conveying the programming language that they
Speaker 2: intend to use for the year twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five is going to be a big year.
Speaker 2: I think that's been predicted many times in the past.
Speaker 2: It's been outlined in a lot of white papers and documents.
Speaker 2: They have big plans for this year. So they're trying
Speaker 2: to kickstart all of this. And of course the fire
Speaker 2: motif is nothing new to these people, these ones that
Speaker 2: control things, these dark occultists in this world. They consider
Speaker 2: themselves to be the philosophers of fire. They're the builders,
Speaker 2: They're the ones that get it done. It's not just
Speaker 2: a Granger commercial. This is what they believe of themselves.
Speaker 2: So what they're attempting to do is they're they want
Speaker 2: to kickstart something really fast here. And this is part
Speaker 2: of the alchemical allegory of burning something down in order
Speaker 2: to rebuild it, the phoenix rising from its ashes. And
Speaker 2: when you look at what's going on in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: and you look back to the year twenty twenty and
Speaker 2: you look at a document which is talking about Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Smart City by twenty twenty eight, just in time
Speaker 2: for the Olympic Games, you begin to realize the dots
Speaker 2: are connecting in a lot of ways. It happened in
Speaker 2: just the right timeframe that they needed it to. And
Speaker 2: could you call it a coincidence if you really want
Speaker 2: you could. I don't have enough faith to be a
Speaker 2: coincidence theorist. But that's beside the point. All of these
Speaker 2: things seem to always align in these ways that seem
Speaker 2: disparate and disconnected from one another, but yet it always
Speaker 2: seems to lead to some greater portion of the pre
Speaker 2: planned agenda which puts all these things together. So this
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about. When you see synchronistic metadata
Speaker 2: out there in the greater zeitgeist, the greater information field,
Speaker 2: you could understand they're connecting the dots. So we have
Speaker 2: this association with fire, the phoenix, the rebirth idea, the
Speaker 2: building of their new world order. We have, of course,
Speaker 2: the inauguration of Donald Trump coming up as the new Caesar,
Speaker 2: if you want to go there with that too. And
Speaker 2: this is actually openly talking about expansion. Think about that
Speaker 2: empire expansion, taking Greenland and Panama and renaming the Gulf
Speaker 2: of Mexico, which has been the Gulf of Mexico for
Speaker 2: as long as I could remember, probably long before I
Speaker 2: was around, think about this. So you're talking about some
Speaker 2: world changing things that they have pre planned here for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and people are eating it up. And
Speaker 2: that's what I just don't get. No matter how many
Speaker 2: times they're shown the disingenuous nature of some of these people,
Speaker 2: particularly the political class, they still are looking at this
Speaker 2: figure and thinking somehow things are going to change or
Speaker 2: get better. When he's instituting all the policies that the
Speaker 2: One worlders want, isn't he that's what he intends to do.
Speaker 2: He is appointing people that want this same position, And
Speaker 2: yet people are okay with that, at least those on
Speaker 2: the political writer are okay with that. And I don't understand.
Speaker 2: But that's just me just pontificating there. I'll shut up now.
Speaker 1: Well, I have separated myself from politics a very long
Speaker 1: time ago. I had no emotional attachment to any of it.
Speaker 1: I see all the theatrics behind it, but to a
Speaker 1: point where it's extremely obvious to me and others with
Speaker 1: eyes to see that there's level of theatrics, a high
Speaker 1: level of theatrics in politics, especially with what we've seen
Speaker 1: this last election cycle. Theological implications behind everything. It was
Speaker 1: like a battle between Jesus versus Satan. And the reaction
Speaker 1: from the global power structure after Trump was in office
Speaker 1: is seems like everyone just fell into line. The the
Speaker 1: previous time Trump was elected, we had all the drama,
Speaker 1: we had all the pushback. Now everybody's praising him and
Speaker 1: falling right into line with every agenda. And the people
Speaker 1: that support Trump, most of them aren't even questioning any
Speaker 1: of it. But the implications behind everything he is doing
Speaker 1: is pointing to exactly what you just said, just further
Speaker 1: solidifying this coming new world order.
Speaker 2: Exactly. And that's what I find like truly problematic is
Speaker 2: people have just bought into this left right paradigm all
Speaker 2: the more. And it's disturbing because you could point out
Speaker 2: all the political corruption to them and they realize, yeah,
Speaker 2: they acknowledge their's political corruption, but their guy's going to
Speaker 2: fix it, and like he had four years to fix it,
Speaker 2: he didn't. And all of this it's all theatrics. Like
Speaker 2: you said, it's all political theater. And I try pointing
Speaker 2: this out to people all the time. Likely this was
Speaker 2: all planned back at the Builderberg meeting in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: the building meeting, which was attended by the way in Chantilly,
Speaker 2: Virginia by well our coming Vice President JD. Vance. He
Speaker 2: was there. He was present at that Builderberg meeting, and
Speaker 2: then he arose into prominence rather quickly thereafter, much like
Speaker 2: a young President Obama, same kind of thing going on.
Speaker 2: He was also groomed and selected by Builderberg. Prior to
Speaker 2: his election to presidency. He was a junior first term senator,
Speaker 2: much like JD. Vance is now, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden he was on the presidential ticket and won the presidency. Well,
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same thing going on, except they
Speaker 2: had to have the Trump figurehead involved. So in my estimation,
Speaker 2: I think this was all planned at that Builderberg twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen meeting. They told Trump, Hey, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get one term, and then we're going to
Speaker 2: put another guy in. We're going to put the Democrats
Speaker 2: in to roll out some of this agenda that we
Speaker 2: want rolled out that you won't get away with if
Speaker 2: you're in there because you have too much media scrutiny. Yes, then,
Speaker 2: and then you'll go back in for another four years
Speaker 2: to seal the deal and get it done. And Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's one of them, Like, don't let him fool you.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna drain the swamp. He is the swamp.
Speaker 2: And I try telling people this all the time. And
Speaker 2: there's some very well meaning evangelical Christians and stuff like
Speaker 2: that that seem to think that this is God's chosen
Speaker 2: guy's it's such a psychological operation and a work, and
Speaker 2: they don't see through it. And they truly and firmly
Speaker 2: believe this no matter how much evidence you point them out.
Speaker 2: With the guy, it just doesn't matter. And it's the
Speaker 2: same thing on the other side, the Democrat side is
Speaker 2: the same way. It's it's all just a psychological operation.
Speaker 2: They know how to work the room. Let's put it
Speaker 2: this way. They know how to divide people along ideological
Speaker 2: lines and keep them separated and fighting over things of
Speaker 2: no real importance. Does it matter if it's a left
Speaker 2: boot or a right boot that's standing on your head
Speaker 2: for eternity?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Think about that.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they're apparent long game plan is
Speaker 1: coming to fruition as they wanted to, or could there
Speaker 1: be a layer of this synchronistic natural reality that is
Speaker 1: pushing against it and maybe causing problems with their role
Speaker 1: out of this new world order.
Speaker 2: I think they're getting a lot of resistance and pushback
Speaker 2: they weren't expecting. I think things aren't going their way.
Speaker 2: I see them panicking and trying to push forward agendas
Speaker 2: and really rush things along. Whereas they used to really
Speaker 2: play the long game, the slow game with a lot
Speaker 2: of this, now they're panicking and they're doubling down, and
Speaker 2: they're throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks
Speaker 2: to get things done. They're behind schedule. I mean, they
Speaker 2: have all of these different things planned for their Agenda
Speaker 2: twenty thirty used to be Agenda twenty one. You remember
Speaker 2: that they wanted all this done and in place by
Speaker 2: the year two thousand. Didn't happen that way, and now
Speaker 2: they have Agenda twenty thirty. Things aren't lining up they
Speaker 2: would like with that either. So they're trying to pivot
Speaker 2: and they're trying to just double down on some of
Speaker 2: the things they've gotten away with, and they're desperately trying
Speaker 2: to get things in place. All the game piece is
Speaker 2: in place, because it is a grand game to them
Speaker 2: to get what they want out of all of this,
Speaker 2: and they're failing, and they don't know what to do
Speaker 2: with themselves, and they've really slipped in recent years. They
Speaker 2: have a lot of really ineffectual middle management running things
Speaker 2: right now. They're a victim of their own policies. Let's
Speaker 2: put it that way. All their DEI diversity, equity, inclusivity
Speaker 2: policies and stuff like that have come back to bite
Speaker 2: them in the butt, let's be honest about it. So
Speaker 2: a lot of these things they've done, they've really relegated
Speaker 2: off to a lot of this ineffectual middle management, and
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to achieve the things that they
Speaker 2: wanted with this because they get some pushback from people. Now,
Speaker 2: one of the big tests for all of this was
Speaker 2: the whole COVID scandemic situation they rolled out on us,
Speaker 2: and by their own numbers, they say sixty nine percent
Speaker 2: of the world's population got at least one COVID shot. Now,
Speaker 2: that's a massive number, but that does not meet the
Speaker 2: level of the parietal split that they need in society
Speaker 2: in order to completely steamroll everybody and get the things
Speaker 2: they want done. That's the twenty eighty split. So they
Speaker 2: need at least eighty percent of the people to go
Speaker 2: along with what they want in order for them to
Speaker 2: be effectual at doing so, so they're short eleven percent
Speaker 2: and that's why they're panicking and doubling down. So even
Speaker 2: though that sounds like a huge number, they still have
Speaker 2: a massive amount of people thirty one percent that did
Speaker 2: not comply the first time with them, and now that
Speaker 2: number has gone way up of those that are going
Speaker 2: to be non compliant because they're seeing the actual harms
Speaker 2: of this rolling out in the public view, in the
Speaker 2: mainstream press and all over the place. So now that
Speaker 2: that's going on and people distrust the system, they're going
Speaker 2: to have a lot more problems. That's why they're trying
Speaker 2: to throw everything at the wall to see what sticks.
Speaker 2: So they've they've gone the route. We have these mystery
Speaker 2: drones UFO phenomenon. They're trying to leverage that against people.
Speaker 2: We have these wildfires, and we have natural disasters, and
Speaker 2: we have climate change and all of these boogeyman things
Speaker 2: going on. And now terrorism has seen a resurgence after disappearing.
Speaker 2: I guess the terrorists we're afraid of COVID for that
Speaker 2: number of years or whatever, but now it's all good again.
Speaker 2: So we have all of that re emerging and they're
Speaker 2: just seeing what sticks they got to get people in
Speaker 2: this fear mindset. And now we have this rollout of
Speaker 2: the bird flu and everything else too. So it's a mess,
Speaker 2: and the economy is a mess because of all of this,
Speaker 2: and the cost of every skyrocketed inflation in like ridiculous
Speaker 2: amounts in this modern time.
Speaker 1: Now earlier you touched on the end game for them,
Speaker 1: their ultimate desire to be mortal possible, have their consciousness
Speaker 1: uploaded to some sort of computer mainframe somehow however, they
Speaker 1: want to achieve that immortality. But what do you think
Speaker 1: that that ultimately means for the rest of humanity? Where
Speaker 1: do they want this to go?
Speaker 2: Well, essentially, there's a couple basic premises that we could
Speaker 2: lay down here. First and foremost, the elite, these dark
Speaker 2: ocultas who run things, these people who see themselves as
Speaker 2: the new gods of this place, the Olympians they sometimes
Speaker 2: call themselves. They make it certain in no ambiguous terms
Speaker 2: that they have no place for the profane in their
Speaker 2: new age. And that's you and I, that's anybody that's
Speaker 2: not been initiated into one of their secret brotherhoods or
Speaker 2: occult fraternities. They view you as not even having a
Speaker 2: soul unless you've been initiated. And so they think they
Speaker 2: do us a favor by prommeo gearing some of these large,
Speaker 2: massive ritual violent events upon us, these traumatic events, much
Speaker 2: like nine to eleven was one, and many of these
Speaker 2: other events. They think they're doing you a favor. This
Speaker 2: is giving you a type of an initiation process and
Speaker 2: giving you doing you the favor of unlocking your potential,
Speaker 2: your ability to recognize that you have a soul and
Speaker 2: latch onto that and maybe come to the initiation phase
Speaker 2: that they need you to come to in order to
Speaker 2: be bought into their ideology. So they think they're doing
Speaker 2: you a favor first and foremost with all of that,
Speaker 2: and they think that that's the only way for you
Speaker 2: to proceed into the next age, because they have no
Speaker 2: place for the profane there, and so the things they
Speaker 2: do to act on this affect us in that way
Speaker 2: first and foremost. Now secondly, with that premise being laid down,
Speaker 2: the other side of this is if you look at
Speaker 2: the notion of transhumanism, this philosophy of transhumanism that's not
Speaker 2: intended for everyone, it benefits, and the advancements of the
Speaker 2: transhumanist technologies are not intended for everyone. This is only
Speaker 2: for the elite class to be the beneficiaries of these technologies.
Speaker 2: So what does this mean exactly? Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what it means when you look at transhumanism. A pro
Speaker 2: transhumanist YouTube channel out there called Transhumania. They have like
Speaker 2: a four to five hour long documentary on their YouTube channel,
Speaker 2: and I believe this is about twenty minutes into the
Speaker 2: documentary if memory serves me correctly. If you look and
Speaker 2: you watch this documentary, they will tell you what transhumanism
Speaker 2: is in no uncertain terms. They call it, quote unquote
Speaker 2: transhumanism is eugenics without coercion. That's what they say. Now
Speaker 2: that's a pro transhumanist YouTube channel. These are pro transhumanists
Speaker 2: who are telling you and know un certain terms what
Speaker 2: this is. So what does this look like? This looks like, well,
Speaker 2: you see, my relative died, but before they died, they
Speaker 2: uploaded their consciousness to the machine and now it acts
Speaker 2: just like them. It has me thoroughly convinced that it
Speaker 2: is them living on in the computer. So people will
Speaker 2: line up to have their consciousness uploaded in this way,
Speaker 2: and in the process it will destroy their physical form
Speaker 2: and it will create this cheap synthetic knockoff of their personality,
Speaker 2: their existing memories, all of this stuff. But is that
Speaker 2: really the ontological self in there? Is that the I
Speaker 2: am that resides in the person. Is it the animus,
Speaker 2: the spirit that's actually residing there? No, it's not. This
Speaker 2: is the world of shells, as I alluded to earlier,
Speaker 2: and you could look up the Kabbalistic term the world
Speaker 2: of shells if you want more information on that. This
Speaker 2: is the dead entity. This is the rain of dead matter,
Speaker 2: as Michael Hoffman calls it. This is the spirit of Ariman,
Speaker 2: as Rudolph Steiner describes it. It's the hyper materialist paradigm.
Speaker 2: It's the physical shell absence of spirit. Now, this absence
Speaker 2: of spirit, while this leaves a gaping, wide open void
Speaker 2: in the process here in which some type of spirit
Speaker 2: is going to manifest, But it's not going to be
Speaker 2: a human spirit, let's put it that way. But at
Speaker 2: any rate, this is essentially what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2: This is a mass culling event. That's what transhumanism is
Speaker 2: for the commoners, the common class. You're not going to
Speaker 2: be the beneficiaries of those transhumanist technologies. They just want
Speaker 2: to actually document and keep all of your memories and
Speaker 2: your personality on file in a computer to be duplicated
Speaker 2: by a machine as best as possible, and have access
Speaker 2: to all of that information minus the spirit, minus the
Speaker 2: actual personhood being there, the individuated soul present therein it's
Speaker 2: a type of collectivism, and it's a type of a
Speaker 2: mass calling event. Like I said, that's what transhumanism is.
Speaker 2: It's eugenics without coercion. So they intend to get rid
Speaker 2: of the bulk of humanity in this way, but still
Speaker 2: keep all of the information present in the collective minds
Speaker 2: of everyone. So this is a very nefarious type of
Speaker 2: agenda when you see it from that vantage.
Speaker 1: Point, when it comes to the powers that you mentioned
Speaker 1: above humanity that are in control. As we become collectively
Speaker 1: more aware and starting to question levels of our reality,
Speaker 1: there has become a reemergence of some gnostic understandings and possibilities,
Speaker 1: theories that our reality is completely controlled by these nefarious
Speaker 1: parasitic entities that are feeding off of us in certain ways.
Speaker 1: To what extent does that go? Do do they answer
Speaker 1: to source? Are they an infiltration in our reality? Let's
Speaker 1: explore that a little bit.
Speaker 2: All right, sounds good. So these are commonly referred to
Speaker 2: in the Gnostic teachings as the arkans. And there are
Speaker 2: many people who would have you believe that we do
Speaker 2: live on a prison planet, that this is indeed a
Speaker 2: matrix of sorts and artificial reality, a simulation all of
Speaker 2: this kind of thing. These all have their roots back
Speaker 2: in these Gnostic principles. In Gnosticism, there are cult belief systems.
Speaker 2: This is nothing new. Remember the Bible advises us, there's
Speaker 2: nothing new under the sun. All of these ideas have
Speaker 2: been ever present here. It's just with our modern ways
Speaker 2: of thinking, in the technologies we're familiar with, we could
Speaker 2: reference this in that type of a way, so we
Speaker 2: could understand it a little better in that type of
Speaker 2: a way. Well, that is not the reality we live in,
Speaker 2: but that is the reality that these dark occultists who
Speaker 2: run things in the spiritual powers controlling them and guiding
Speaker 2: and directing them in this want us to get to.
Speaker 2: That's the point they want us to get to. And
Speaker 2: this is what's called the world of shells in the
Speaker 2: Kabbalistic and Hermetic traditions. So it is that notion of
Speaker 2: pure physicality form devoid of spirit, that's what they want here,
Speaker 2: because then that gives them the vehicle that they want
Speaker 2: in order to manifest physically here. These spiritual powers and
Speaker 2: entities that be that right now do not belong here
Speaker 2: in this natural order. They're an abomination to this natural order.
Speaker 2: And you could look back to the Bible in Genesis
Speaker 2: chapter six to talk about this a little further, with
Speaker 2: the fallen angels into their co mingling with the daughters
Speaker 2: of men and the emergence of the Nephilum. There were
Speaker 2: giants in the earth in those days and also after that.
Speaker 2: This is a direct telling of that same type of thing.
Speaker 2: These were not entities, not being things that belong in
Speaker 2: this natural creation. And this is where the problem arises,
Speaker 2: and this is why the Great Flood is said to
Speaker 2: have happened. If you look at it from the theological
Speaker 2: perspective and also from the philosophical perspective and the occult
Speaker 2: perspective of some of these people, that is what they
Speaker 2: seem to agree upon. That was the reason for the flood,
Speaker 2: was to eliminate this abomination from the natural order. They
Speaker 2: don't belong here. Well, they're trying to build a similar
Speaker 2: thing with the transhumanist notion of things. So see, essentially,
Speaker 2: what it boils down to is the human being in
Speaker 2: and of himself is the gateway between worlds. And when
Speaker 2: you understand that, you understand our special place here in
Speaker 2: this world where the gateway between worlds, between the spiritual
Speaker 2: and the physical here. Now, many of these spiritual entities
Speaker 2: they seek to manifest physically because there are certain things
Speaker 2: here that they find very desirable. So you have this
Speaker 2: notion of the walk in in paranormal studies. It's the
Speaker 2: same type of thing that they're looking to manifest on
Speaker 2: a greater level with this transhumanist notion. So that's from
Speaker 2: the perspective of the spiritual side of this. These dark
Speaker 2: spirits that want to come into physical form here and
Speaker 2: manifest here to have this experience, they want to do
Speaker 2: so through the use of the human form, and they
Speaker 2: could only do so if the human form is devoid
Speaker 2: of spirit. Well how does that happen. Well, that happens
Speaker 2: through this transhumanist ideology and philosophy. You upload your consciousness
Speaker 2: to the machine you physically die. That leaves the empty shell,
Speaker 2: thus the world of shells, for them to use as
Speaker 2: a vehicle to manifest here. And that is wherein things
Speaker 2: get really kind of nefarious sounding. And I reserve the
Speaker 2: right to be totally wrong on this stuff, by the way,
Speaker 2: but it seems to be the preponderance of evidence always
Speaker 2: indicates this, no matter where you come at it from,
Speaker 2: if you come at it from the scientific paradigm, the
Speaker 2: occult paradigm, the religious paradigm, all of this. So that
Speaker 2: seems to be in my estimation, what's going on here.
Speaker 2: You have these spiritual intelligences, forces entities, however you want
Speaker 2: to frame them, who want to manifest here physically, and
Speaker 2: they will try their utmost to do so. And this
Speaker 2: leads into some various other aspects of things that I
Speaker 2: don't think we're prepared to go that long today. So
Speaker 2: when you look at it from the perspective and the
Speaker 2: viewpoint of the spiritual side of it, but just trying
Speaker 2: to maintain the subject here to stay on point, the
Speaker 2: synchromistic metadata around us is intended to steer us into
Speaker 2: this transhumanist paradigm, to make us buy into this concept
Speaker 2: that this is all there is is physical reality. They
Speaker 2: want to lead you away from that connection back with
Speaker 2: your creator with God. They want to diverge you from
Speaker 2: that and keep you from that relatelationship that write relationship
Speaker 2: with God, because if you have that, then you realize
Speaker 2: there's more than meets the eye here. There are spiritual realms,
Speaker 2: there are spiritual concerns that we need to keep in mind,
Speaker 2: and not just the purely strictly physical things that they
Speaker 2: would like us to focus on.
Speaker 1: You're right, there's a lot more we can get into.
Speaker 1: I'd love to do a part two on this. Let's
Speaker 1: close on this. Where do you think they're going with
Speaker 1: the whole UFO narrative and the psychological operation that's been
Speaker 1: ongoing for years through our entertainment, through the media, everything
Speaker 1: we've been shown about UFOs. What do you think the
Speaker 1: endgame is with this?
Speaker 2: It's hard to say for sure. They always seem to
Speaker 2: want to use the whole alien notion as a way
Speaker 2: of controlling the populace. You could go as far back
Speaker 2: as John Dewey giving a speech in nineteen seventeen talking
Speaker 2: about how all the world's difference is. This was later
Speaker 2: paraphrased by Ronald Reagan several times. All the world's differences
Speaker 2: would simply come to nothing if there was an outside
Speaker 2: of power, or an alien invasion or something that united humanity.
Speaker 2: And I'm paraphrasing that of course as well. But we
Speaker 2: were all familiar with this notion. So this has been
Speaker 2: out there in the zeitgeist for a long time now,
Speaker 2: this notion of an outside alien force that will unite humanity. Now,
Speaker 2: what exactly does this look like on an operational principle,
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. Are they really going to
Speaker 2: roll out the aliens and show us the physical alien
Speaker 2: beings and say they've come here from Zeta Reticula or
Speaker 2: wherever else they're gonna claim. Actually, it'll probably be serious.
Speaker 2: They're going to come from Serious. I'll make that prediction.
Speaker 2: If they do do that, they'll claim they're from the
Speaker 2: Serious star system. And there's very occult reasons for that,
Speaker 2: but we won't go into that today. But at any rate,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll actually do that or if
Speaker 2: they're going another direction with this, because something I've noticed
Speaker 2: about the whole UFO phenomenon is, for the very longest time,
Speaker 2: it's always been directly or indirectly associated with microbes or disease.
Speaker 2: You noticed that if you go and you look into it,
Speaker 2: think back to the orson Wells Radio broadcast or of
Speaker 2: the World's and actually the earlier story by ht Wells
Speaker 2: War of the World's what ultimately destroyed the Martians, Well,
Speaker 2: that was earth microbes, wasn't it disease? And this is
Speaker 2: something I found interesting and I actually it first hit
Speaker 2: me back in I think it was twenty eighteen. We
Speaker 2: did an episode of Crow Triple seven Radio talking about
Speaker 2: the newly formed at that time To the Stars Academy,
Speaker 2: you know, Tom DeLange and company with all of that,
Speaker 2: and I was compiling the notes and seeing who he
Speaker 2: had actually on his team, a bunch of former CIA
Speaker 2: guys like Blue Amazono and stuff like that. But also
Speaker 2: I found it concerning that there were at least two
Speaker 2: or three microbiologists on the To the Stars Academy team.
Speaker 2: That struck me as a lot. These are studying UFO phenomena.
Speaker 2: So that's when I put the connection together in my
Speaker 2: head at that point, and I even mentioned it on
Speaker 2: air there and then oh and behold, a few short
Speaker 2: years later, we have the rollout of COVID after an
Speaker 2: unprecedented release in the news media in late twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: about the tic tac Ufo and all the disclosure that
Speaker 2: came with this. So think about that, So once again,
Speaker 2: this is more of that synchronistic metadata coming into play
Speaker 2: and this pattern recognition that I'm talking about, So maybe
Speaker 2: it has something to do with that. And of course
Speaker 2: they're trying to hype up this bird flu thing right now,
Speaker 2: and they're trying to reinvent COVID, and they're trying to
Speaker 2: reinvent all of these new different novel diseases that are
Speaker 2: said to be out and about there to get people
Speaker 2: in this fear mindset. So maybe they're going to pivot
Speaker 2: with that and go that direction. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't have the answers. These are just observations I've made
Speaker 2: based upon the metadata I see out there in the
Speaker 2: greater information.
Speaker 1: Right Well, we're definitely in interesting times to close out today,
Speaker 1: What advice would you give people when navigating this reality,
Speaker 1: especially when trying to find good information, when trying to
Speaker 1: prepare for all the possibilities that could be coming.
Speaker 3: What would you advise people?
Speaker 2: I would advise people, just make sure your heart's right
Speaker 2: with your creator, make sure you have that right relationship
Speaker 2: with God that'll guide you through more or less. But
Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt to be prepared to maybe have like
Speaker 2: three weeks worth of food stored up. Maybe have a
Speaker 2: little bit of goods that might help you through to
Speaker 2: survive if you need to. If you know how to
Speaker 2: grow your own food, great plant a little garden, do
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Also have tools available, tools and
Speaker 2: supplies like that so you could build things or do whatever.
Speaker 2: Maybe have an alternate energy source that you could use
Speaker 2: for heat or for electricity if the need should arise.
Speaker 2: Maybe own property that's a good thing to have too,
Speaker 2: real estate that's a valuable asset. Maybe some gold and
Speaker 2: silver reserves, things like that. Just keep that. It doesn't
Speaker 2: hurt to be prepared for anything because you never know,
Speaker 2: I mean a natural disaster or a natural disaster or
Speaker 2: if you put that in their quotes, might come your
Speaker 2: way and you never can tell. I don't think they'll
Speaker 2: really go the route of taking down the entire power
Speaker 2: grid at once, because that takes control firmly out of
Speaker 2: their hands. So I don't think they would dare do that.
Speaker 2: So if they were to take down the power grid,
Speaker 2: it would probably be in little sections at a time.
Speaker 2: So that's my estimation of the things here.
Speaker 1: So right on, Well, Wayne, this was great information. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Like I said, we'll definitely have to
Speaker 1: do this again. Before you go, remind the audience where
Speaker 1: they can find all of your content, books, podcast, all
Speaker 1: the good stuff.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks again, Chris, I appreciate it. You could
Speaker 2: find all of my work at www dot Chemical tech
Speaker 2: Revolution dot com and I have links over to all
Speaker 2: the various things that I've been working on. I have
Speaker 2: a substack called the Alchemical Beacon where you could listen
Speaker 2: to the podcast or read some articles and things like that.
Speaker 2: And like I was alluding to earlier, my friend Richard
Speaker 2: Willet and I just launched a new podcast called synchro
Speaker 2: Mystic that's out there on Spotify and YouTube as well.
Speaker 2: So that's out there for people to listen to if
Speaker 2: you want to get a little bit more of a
Speaker 2: breakdown of specifics about this synchro Mystic metadata that we
Speaker 2: put out there.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, thank you again, Wayne. Like I said, we'll
Speaker 1: be doing this again. Loves to talking in the future.
Speaker 1: Until next time. Everyone, have a wonderful evening and we
Speaker 1: will talk again tomorrow. We'll see you then. We live
Speaker 1: in an incredible age of information. More and more we're
Speaker 1: discovering that we've been lied to admit. Today, I want
Speaker 1: to welcome back to the show, Ryan Gable. He is
Speaker 1: a veteran radio personality and producer for The Secret Teachings.
Speaker 1: Broadcasts focus on the synchronicity and objective analysis of parapsychology,
Speaker 1: pop conspiracy, parapolitics, health history, the paranormal symbolism, the esoteric alchemy, magic, philosophy,
Speaker 1: and more in the most distinct ways by finding parallels
Speaker 1: and patterns often overlooked. Ryan, welcome back. How you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm good, Chris, thank you for having.
Speaker 1: Me, Thanks so much for coming back on. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to this. You have a presentation we're going to
Speaker 1: be going through right now. We live in a state
Speaker 1: of unfortunate amnesia when it comes to our human history,
Speaker 1: is made worse by the current state of deception and
Speaker 1: confusion that we're in. Our holidays are really no different.
Speaker 1: The majority of people, especially here in the United States,
Speaker 1: have no clue about the origins of the holidays they're celebrating.
Speaker 1: Most of them probably don't care. Dead materialism, commercialization, and
Speaker 1: propaganda have essentially taking over our holidays like Christmas, and
Speaker 1: we now have mismatched aspects of different ancient practices. But
Speaker 1: today you have a presentation about the occult origins of Christmas.
Speaker 1: Very excited to share this information. First, for those that
Speaker 1: may not be familiar with your previous appearances, tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself and let the audience know
Speaker 1: where they can find you.
Speaker 3: Well. First of all, thank you for having me on
Speaker 3: and allowing me to speak. My work, I guess is
Speaker 3: considered quite controversial, although I'm not really sure why that is.
Speaker 3: We are going to talk about the occult origins of
Speaker 3: Christmas tonight. But like anything I cover on my radio show,
Speaker 3: The Secret Teachings, I like to approach it from an
Speaker 3: angle that is not repetitive or almost plagiarizing or copying paste.
Speaker 3: A lot of people in the radio podcast world just
Speaker 3: take whatever is popular, and I think, just repeat it
Speaker 3: over and over again in maybe put their opinion into it.
Speaker 3: I try to step away from all of that, and
Speaker 3: I try to watch where I get my ideas and
Speaker 3: my thoughts from to make sure that I'm not just repetitive.
Speaker 3: So I try to incorporate that into my show Monday
Speaker 3: through Friday, and I talk about a little bit of
Speaker 3: everything from UFOs to the occult origins of Holidays, which
Speaker 3: is a big favorite topic of mine. So that could
Speaker 3: be Halloween, that could be Christmas, that could be Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3: And I like to discuss things like nutrition as well.
Speaker 3: So I kind of bounce around all over the place.
Speaker 3: And whoever is nice enough and kind enough to allow
Speaker 3: me to do my work to do my presentation, like
Speaker 3: you and others, I really appreciate that, and thank you.
Speaker 3: And anybody who would like to find my show, they
Speaker 3: can find it Monday through Friday. Very simple, tst radio dot,
Speaker 3: I info or pretty much anywhere you listen to radio
Speaker 3: shows or podcasts, you can find the show. But all
Speaker 3: the links are on the website tstradio dot.
Speaker 1: Great, thank you for that. Let's pull up the presentation
Speaker 1: and get into this. I'm very interested in looking into
Speaker 1: the research you've done. You've always been very thorough and
Speaker 1: I enjoy your work. Let's get into this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, before I bring it up, can I ask
Speaker 3: you what exactly do you personally know or like what
Speaker 3: do you personally see as the you know, pop culture
Speaker 3: origins of traditions like the tree or like Santa. What
Speaker 3: do you know and what do you think the pop
Speaker 3: culture image is.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious as far as what I grew up with.
Speaker 1: I've grew up in a Catholic Christian home, and we
Speaker 1: were taught the Christian understandings of Christmas as far as
Speaker 1: the modern Christian understandings. From a very young age, I
Speaker 1: checked out of the church. I checked out of a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff, so I didn't really pay attention
Speaker 1: to it. I really clung more to the commercialized Christmas.
Speaker 1: I looked forward to the family getting together, getting presence.
Speaker 1: Before I really started awakening and researching everything that I
Speaker 1: look into now, Christmas didn't mean much to me at all.
Speaker 1: It was just another excuse to get together, drink, to
Speaker 1: forget about our normal reality for a few days, and
Speaker 1: that's all it really was for me, and for my friends,
Speaker 1: and for my family too. They were in that Catholic tradition,
Speaker 1: but they weren't really devout. My mom went to church
Speaker 1: every Sunday, but probably didn't understand the teachings at any
Speaker 1: deep level at all. So Christmas was just at face
Speaker 1: value for me growing up. It wasn't until a few
Speaker 1: years ago, around twenty twelve twenty thirteen, when I started
Speaker 1: just looking into the alternative reality behind everything, that I
Speaker 1: started to understand that all these holiday traditions are deeply misunderstood,
Speaker 1: and like I said, it's like we have collective amnesia
Speaker 1: about our he history in general.
Speaker 3: Yes, for the record, I basically grew up the same way,
Speaker 3: minus the later partying. In life, I never partied, never
Speaker 3: have partied, but I grew up pretty much the same way,
Speaker 3: thinking pretty much the same thing. I grew up Baptist,
Speaker 3: and I don't really think that I thought anything of
Speaker 3: Christmas as I grew up until I got probably about
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty years old, and I just thought, well, this
Speaker 3: is interesting. I read something randomly about Christmas trees and
Speaker 3: you know, other traditions around the world, and that got
Speaker 3: me curious. And then I started reading about you know,
Speaker 3: Santa's hat and where the hat came from and why
Speaker 3: he's colored red, and I asked you. And I'm telling
Speaker 3: people a little bit about myself because I am always
Speaker 3: curious to know what other people's perceptions are, because I
Speaker 3: don't think that anybody's perception of it is incorrect. And
Speaker 3: that's part of the problem that might also make my
Speaker 3: work controversial, is because I don't necessarily come at an
Speaker 3: issue like this from the standard point of view of
Speaker 3: like if you were going to listen to an occult
Speaker 3: Origins of Christmas presentation. Normally you would hear the elements
Speaker 3: of Zeitgeist, remember Zeitgeist, and you would have this almost
Speaker 3: battle that goes on between the Christians who want to
Speaker 3: preserve the Christian Christianity elements of it, their perceptions, and
Speaker 3: then the people that are like, I hate Jesus and
Speaker 3: I hate God and I hate Christians and they want
Speaker 3: to preserve their Zeitgeist elements. Now, the Christians are right
Speaker 3: about most of the things that they believe. It's just
Speaker 3: they have their own interpretations and they've created their own traditions,
Speaker 3: and that's okay. Usually they don't know the origins, but
Speaker 3: very few of us know the origins about anything that
Speaker 3: we do. So I'm not assaulting Christians with this presentation,
Speaker 3: is the point. And I'm also not bringing a Zeitgeist
Speaker 3: defense into this presentation because Zeitgeist is as correct and
Speaker 3: incorrect as Christians are. There are many things in Zeitgeist
Speaker 3: as it relates to the winter solstice and certain traditions.
Speaker 3: There are many things in that movie that are completely
Speaker 3: fabricated and incorrect. So I want to make that very
Speaker 3: clear that I do not support the Christian angle or
Speaker 3: the Zeitgeist angle, but I also at the same time
Speaker 3: do support the Christian angle and the Zeitgeist angle, if
Speaker 3: that makes any sense. There's a little bit of truth
Speaker 3: in both, but there's also a lot of fabrications in both.
Speaker 3: I would say I actually support the Christian angle a
Speaker 3: little bit more because there's a purpose, I think, to
Speaker 3: the traditional elements in Christian Christmas traditions. In Zeitgeist, although
Speaker 3: I liked I did like the movie, it is more
Speaker 3: of a refutation of Christianity, and people interpret it as
Speaker 3: an attack. And even if that wasn't the intention, I'm
Speaker 3: certainly not approaching the subject from that angle. So I
Speaker 3: just wanted to be very clear in prefacing that as
Speaker 3: I bring up the presentation here. So let's see if
Speaker 3: you can see my slides. Okay, great, So I think
Speaker 3: it's important Chris to first of all, well Chris, your
Speaker 3: name's there in the title, ask the question what is Christmas?
Speaker 3: And ask people if they know or if they ever
Speaker 3: thought about what the word means, because people say, keep
Speaker 3: Christ in Christmas. And here's that battle again. The opposite
Speaker 3: end of the spectrum says Christ was never in Christmas. Well, actually,
Speaker 3: they're both right and wrong. Again, Christ has always been
Speaker 3: in Christmas, just under a different name, because Christ or
Speaker 3: Christus means Christos, it's Greek, and it refers to the
Speaker 3: anointed one. So traditionally, if you want to look at
Speaker 3: pagan meaning, the origin of paganism is the religion of
Speaker 3: the country people. So people that do not have a
Speaker 3: subscription to a major religion, So people that weren't subscribed
Speaker 3: to Islam, or people that weren't subscribed to Christianity. So
Speaker 3: anybody else who believed anything else, not just nature worship
Speaker 3: per se, but anybody who believed anything else paganists paganism. Okay,
Speaker 3: to a pagan, we hear this idea that Christmas is
Speaker 3: really about the resurrection of the sun. It's the winter solstice, right,
Speaker 3: and the winter solstice is when the sun dies and
Speaker 3: is reborn. Okay, So to the Pagans, that would mean
Speaker 3: that the sun is the anointed one. So to the Pagans,
Speaker 3: they're not using the word Christos or Christ, but they
Speaker 3: are celebrating a christ Mass. It is a gathering of
Speaker 3: Pagans to worship, to honor, to pay their respects to
Speaker 3: the sun, to the elements of nature. So again, the
Speaker 3: Christians are right keep Christ in Christmas, and the opposite
Speaker 3: end of that spectrum are also right. Christ was never
Speaker 3: in Christmas. It depends on what Christ you're talking about.
Speaker 3: If you're talking about Jesus, Okay, the Jesus person wasn't
Speaker 3: in Christmas, but Christ as the anointed One, as the Sun,
Speaker 3: was in Christmas. So we should keep Christ in Christmas.
Speaker 3: So I have no problem. I don't like Xmas personally
Speaker 3: because x means unknown. We know what it is, we
Speaker 3: know what Christ is, we know what the Sun is.
Speaker 3: So Xmus is an atheistic assault I think on both
Speaker 3: Christianity and Paganism. So I don't subscribe, subscribe to that
Speaker 3: element of the war on Christmas. And that brings me
Speaker 3: to the symbol that if you're watching the video version
Speaker 3: of this, you can see it's a wreath, and you
Speaker 3: probably see people put these on their doors. These wreaths
Speaker 3: symbolize precisely what I'm talking about. The wreath symbolizes the
Speaker 3: death of somebody or something. It is a symbol that
Speaker 3: somebody or something has died and that the person inside
Speaker 3: of the home is mourning. So if you see a
Speaker 3: wreath on the door, I don't know if a lot
Speaker 3: of people know this. I didn't know this until I
Speaker 3: read a book on it, and then I reference that
Speaker 3: other places, and then I actually talked to my friend
Speaker 3: when he was alive, Jordan Maxwell, and he said, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he said, the wreath symbolizes the death of the sun
Speaker 3: or the sun s u n s o n. It
Speaker 3: symbolizes the death of the anointed. So we put the
Speaker 3: wreath on the door to honor the debt. And that
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if it's Jesus, doesn't matter if it's the
Speaker 3: Sun or you can see behind me on the video.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of Japanese paintings. In Japan, the
Speaker 3: most powerful deity kami spirit is Amattasu, the Sun goddess,
Speaker 3: and her story is identical to this because she goes
Speaker 3: into a cave for three days in creation, during and
Speaker 3: after creation. But every year during this time of the year,
Speaker 3: she goes into a cave for three days and the
Speaker 3: other kami or spirits gathered together and they put a
Speaker 3: mirror on a tree and they decorate the tree, and
Speaker 3: she sees her reflection and sees how beautiful she is,
Speaker 3: and she comes out of the cave and everybody has
Speaker 3: a celebration around a decorated tree. That's in the Japanese
Speaker 3: traditions thousands of years old. That's in the Western traditions
Speaker 3: as well. So the Christmas tree is not just Germanic
Speaker 3: in nature, it's not just European in nature. It's a universality.
Speaker 3: And if you live in the desert like I do.
Speaker 3: I'm in the American Southwest, we have well there's a
Speaker 3: plant called Christmas cactus, but people use soaro cactuses here.
Speaker 3: They'll decorate them, put Santa hats on them, put lights
Speaker 3: on them. I like a Christmas souro cactus. It's kind
Speaker 3: of cool. And that is a tradition that is out
Speaker 3: here because we don't have, you know, trees in this
Speaker 3: part of the desert all. I mean, there are trees
Speaker 3: up on the mountain and Mount Lemon here. But if
Speaker 3: you live in an area without any trees, you make
Speaker 3: do with what you have, and you take a cactus.
Speaker 3: And there's a parallel hair cris to a pumpkins and Halloween.
Speaker 3: We have pumpkins in North America, but in Europe they
Speaker 3: used to utilize for the Beltane festivals or for the
Speaker 3: Halloween festivals. Different parts of the of the year of
Speaker 3: Beltane or some hayne, they would utilize root vegetables, so
Speaker 3: like turnips, potatoes and things like that. So it's the
Speaker 3: same exact idea with the Christmas tree. It might be
Speaker 3: a tree, it might be a cactus, but it's the
Speaker 3: same purpose. It might be Cristos, the Son of God,
Speaker 3: the sun, or it might be the so o in anointed.
Speaker 3: Either way, we're dealing with the same thing. So first
Speaker 3: and foremost, does that make sense? Is that clear? Does
Speaker 3: that understands?
Speaker 1: And anyone that's listening on the audio end, I encourage
Speaker 1: to go to Rumble if you'd like to see the
Speaker 1: visuals of this presentation.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I would like it to be you know,
Speaker 3: acceptable for audio listeners too, So that's why I'm trying
Speaker 3: to give detail. And of course everybody knows what a
Speaker 3: wreath is. So if you're watching the video, you can
Speaker 3: see these symbols on the screen right now, if you're
Speaker 3: listening on audio, what I have on the screen is
Speaker 3: a Santa Claus Christmas tree, a sun, a slice of orange,
Speaker 3: and a present and throughout the presentation, and this is
Speaker 3: going to be a short version of the presentation, because
Speaker 3: the whole presentation is about three hours long. Roughly, this
Speaker 3: part of the presentation, I'm just showing you that by
Speaker 3: the end of the presentation you will have an understanding
Speaker 3: of what the origins of these symbols and elements are.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean the standard Oh it's just a
Speaker 3: pagan tree, and oh it's just a Coca Cola Santa,
Speaker 3: and oh it's just to gift because it's commercialization. It's
Speaker 3: actually quite the opposite of I mean, it is those things,
Speaker 3: but it's quite the opposite fundamentally of all of those things.
Speaker 3: So we can start with the tree. And again I
Speaker 3: know that this isn't the standard talking point for Christmas,
Speaker 3: so I hope that this is educational for people. This
Speaker 3: is the world navel or the fountain of Life. This
Speaker 3: is the symbol of Jesus crucified on the cross and
Speaker 3: his blood is being collected in the chalice. This is
Speaker 3: a symbol of where everything, where life, where everything flows
Speaker 3: out of and where everything flows out of the tree
Speaker 3: of life, the World Tree, and the Scandinavian countries. It
Speaker 3: is the ash tree, which of course in Christianity you
Speaker 3: have ash Wednesday that also comes from India because they
Speaker 3: smear their body and ashes Christians put the ash bross
Speaker 3: on their head. Well, that comes from the burning of
Speaker 3: the ash tree which Odin was hanged on. And Odin
Speaker 3: is one of the core gods that bring us the
Speaker 3: tradition of Santa Claus the old man in the north
Speaker 3: with a white beard, with a sleigh, with a bunch
Speaker 3: of characters, or we we have elves that help him
Speaker 3: in his duties. So we have the world Tree, and
Speaker 3: it's from the World Tree that we get the blood
Speaker 3: of Christ. And what is the blood of Christ or
Speaker 3: in other versions, it's basically a cornucopia. It's the abundance,
Speaker 3: it's the blessings, it's the grace of God, it's the
Speaker 3: forgiveness of God. It's the blood of Christ, which is
Speaker 3: the life of well not just Christ, it's the life
Speaker 3: of us. Life is in the blood. The Bible says
Speaker 3: it is love. It is the world axis axis mundi.
Speaker 3: It is the center of creation. It's where the Omphalustone is.
Speaker 3: It's the center of where Odin makes the the point
Speaker 3: of the world, the world naval, it's where he establishes.
Speaker 3: This is the center of the world in the myth,
Speaker 3: and that's essentially what the Christmas Tree is. It's the
Speaker 3: axis Moondy by which everything revolves around. We go around
Speaker 3: the Christmas tree like we do the maypole, and the
Speaker 3: abundance provided to us by the tree, or as a tree,
Speaker 3: represents all of nature, these evergreen trees. Everything else dies.
Speaker 3: The evergreen tree signifies and symbolizes that there will be
Speaker 3: something left at the end of the year, and that
Speaker 3: it will last through the winter and it will provide
Speaker 3: us once again with fruits and with things that we
Speaker 3: need to survive. So it is a symbol of the
Speaker 3: preservation of life and also of specific kinds of foods
Speaker 3: that some of them make it through the winter. Some
Speaker 3: seeds make it through the winter. Pine cones, poppy which
Speaker 3: are other elements of Christmas, and other things don't. They
Speaker 3: die temporarily. So the tree represents and reminds us that
Speaker 3: life will go on, and we revolve around it, kind
Speaker 3: of like it's the sun, which is why we put
Speaker 3: a star at the top. It's kind of like a
Speaker 3: little mini solar system. And underneath the tree we get
Speaker 3: these gifts. We get the gifts of abundance, the blessings,
Speaker 3: the grace, the forgiveness, the life, the love, all of
Speaker 3: it centered around the tree or the world navel. And
Speaker 3: a good symbol of that is the globus cruciger, which
Speaker 3: is a circle or a sphere with a cross on top,
Speaker 3: and it shows you the cross which is the spine
Speaker 3: of the human or which is the tree over the
Speaker 3: earth or in the center of the earth by which
Speaker 3: it revolves around. As a Catholic symbol, of course, it
Speaker 3: represents the Church's dominion over the earth. And a great
Speaker 3: example of this you could just type in and find
Speaker 3: the same image I'm using. Type in sunrise on Earth
Speaker 3: and that's what you're looking at. You're looking at the
Speaker 3: cross over the earth, lobis cruciger across over the sphere,
Speaker 3: or if you just look at like a cig image
Speaker 3: of the Earth with the sun rising, or a real
Speaker 3: image of the Earth with the sun rising, it's the
Speaker 3: same concept you see on the video. Okay, so now
Speaker 3: the idea of life. This is a very famous symbol
Speaker 3: in Egypt. It's called the crouks on Sata. For those
Speaker 3: of you who are watching the video, you can see
Speaker 3: that there's another symbol next to the kruksansata called a
Speaker 3: jet TJ e T. Now, in Egypt, the jet is
Speaker 3: the symbol of isis the crouks on sata. The ankh
Speaker 3: is a symbol of Osiris. Now Isis carries the crooks
Speaker 3: on sata. But that's because the goddess, the woman that
Speaker 3: gives birth, provides us with both life and death, so
Speaker 3: she has both elements incorporated into her. The anc symbol
Speaker 3: is a symbol of life, so like the Christian cross,
Speaker 3: it symbolizes resurrection. The Kruk's onsata is life like the
Speaker 3: in video you're watching, you can go back and you
Speaker 3: can look at here the world Naval. It's where life
Speaker 3: comes out of. It's the cross, It's the world Naval.
Speaker 3: The fountain of life, that's the croux on sat to
Speaker 3: the jet tjet is called the knot of Isis, and
Speaker 3: it represents like the fountain of life. It represents her blood,
Speaker 3: both the blood of birth and the blood of menstruation,
Speaker 3: which is purifying like the blood of Christ. And that
Speaker 3: particular set of symbols represents life and death and resurrection,
Speaker 3: a kind of trinity. And you can see to the
Speaker 3: left in the image if you're not watching the video,
Speaker 3: you're looking at in the video a relief from ancient
Speaker 3: Egypt of the sun bestowing blessings or little aunks life,
Speaker 3: the Sun bestowing life on the pharaohs and on the
Speaker 3: people that they are overseeing, the people that they are
Speaker 3: in charge of. People interpret this as alien. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't think it's alien. Hey, maybe it is, but I
Speaker 3: don't think it's alien. I think it's I mean, Egypt
Speaker 3: is famous, probably more than any other country for its symbolism.
Speaker 3: And what this image is showing us is the Sun
Speaker 3: bestowing life through its rays to the pharaohs, who then
Speaker 3: impart that to the people. That's the concept, that's the idea,
Speaker 3: because the ruler is an emissary of God. And so
Speaker 3: if they say that the God came down or the
Speaker 3: aliens came down and granted this knowledge and wisdom to man,
Speaker 3: well that happens. It might be aliens. I don't know, Chris,
Speaker 3: but it might be aliens. But it also is a
Speaker 3: very basic form of symbolism, showing us that the sun
Speaker 3: bestows life and gifts, bestows gifts to the people below
Speaker 3: and then like well, like a church, it's kind of
Speaker 3: an emissary between God and man in a sense. So
Speaker 3: you can see that in the video. So that might
Speaker 3: look like it has nothing to do with Christmas, but
Speaker 3: actually the Christmas elements which are universal. Whether you're on
Speaker 3: Japanese Islands or you're in the American Southwest, you're going
Speaker 3: to find the very same kinds of images, or at
Speaker 3: least meaning to images, even when they're very far apart,
Speaker 3: because they're all coming from the same place. And that
Speaker 3: same place is human awareness and consciousness of the natural world,
Speaker 3: which is where the Egyptian gods and goddess has come from. Anywhere,
Speaker 3: they're called the nurture nature, which is nature, and that
Speaker 3: is the observance of the physical world. So here are
Speaker 3: some quick examples of the world naval or the crucifixion
Speaker 3: of Christ. The crucifixion of Odin on the ash tree
Speaker 3: the axis moundi. Odin is also pierced in the side
Speaker 3: by a spear. Here is Indra, very old piction of
Speaker 3: Indra on the left. On the right is the crucifixion
Speaker 3: of Quitzequaddle from Central America, crucified on an ex cross.
Speaker 3: You can see Indur coming out of the chest like
Speaker 3: Osiris was in the chest. Here is Saint Sebastian. You
Speaker 3: can see the church took this imagery. It wasn't just
Speaker 3: for Christ. It was also for the saints. Sebastian is
Speaker 3: tied to a tree and he is pierced by arrows.
Speaker 3: And here on the right side you can see that
Speaker 3: is Prometheus being tied to a in this case a
Speaker 3: pole traditionally a rock, and a bird eats his organs
Speaker 3: out of his side, usually the liver in the myth
Speaker 3: So we have a very similar tradition here. And what
Speaker 3: drops from the blood of Christ, what drops from the
Speaker 3: blood of Odin, what drops from the blood of quitte Quaddle,
Speaker 3: what drops from the blood of Prometheus is going back
Speaker 3: to the world naval. It is that blood, that abundance,
Speaker 3: that blessing, that grace. You'll find that in the traditions
Speaker 3: of both classical and non classical mythology, you will find
Speaker 3: that anytime blood drops to the ground, it usually sprouts
Speaker 3: up some kind of flower or some kind of fruit.
Speaker 3: So in the story of Mithra very famous Mithras in
Speaker 3: Rome slaying the bull, when he slays the bull, the
Speaker 3: blood drops strike the ground, and out of that blood
Speaker 3: on the ground there springs forth flowers. And the story
Speaker 3: of Collie very misunderstood. Story of Khali Ali is usually
Speaker 3: seen as this dark black goddess who wants to kill you.
Speaker 3: That's how Christians and others interpret it. Collie actually does
Speaker 3: the very opposite. Collie has to look the way that
Speaker 3: she does because she has to fight evil. And in
Speaker 3: order to fight evil, she has to she can't just
Speaker 3: be this beautiful girl that doesn't do anything. She has
Speaker 3: to be fierce. So she fights evil with this aggressiveness
Speaker 3: and this nastiness to her, and she has her tongue out,
Speaker 3: you know the pictures of Collie with her tongue out
Speaker 3: because she has to lick up the blood of all
Speaker 3: the fallen demons. And people say, oh my god, she's
Speaker 3: drinking blood. And I'd say, well, two things. One, I
Speaker 3: would take a look at Eucharist first of all. Two,
Speaker 3: I would observe the myth where the myth says she
Speaker 3: licks up the blood to prevent the birth of future demons.
Speaker 3: Collie actually is trying to prevent evil from spreading. She's
Speaker 3: not evil herself. So that thing that drops, whether it
Speaker 3: sprouts a flower, a pomegranate, or it is the sprouting
Speaker 3: of demons. That is what grows forth from the blood
Speaker 3: that drops or drips from these gods. It is the abundance,
Speaker 3: like for example, do morning dew on the trees, on
Speaker 3: the leaves, on the plants, anywhere you look. There's morning dew.
Speaker 3: In alchemy, that is considered the perspiration off of the
Speaker 3: head of the Grand Architect or of God. So morning
Speaker 3: dew is a very powerful alchemical substance. It comes directly
Speaker 3: from the face of God. Another blessing in a Youngian
Speaker 3: sense that falls or in a fourteen sense Charles fort
Speaker 3: it falls from heaven. It's a blessing from heaven. So
Speaker 3: that's where we're getting the idea of the Christmas tree
Speaker 3: and the Christmas presence under the tree. And here are
Speaker 3: some other other examples. There's Orpheus being crucified. There are
Speaker 3: the different uses of the passive and active lines, crosses,
Speaker 3: x's swastikas, etc. And there are some other examples there
Speaker 3: the Templar Cross, the Maltese Cross, the Leviathan Cross, the
Speaker 3: Labyrium of the Catholic Church, which relates to Christos or
Speaker 3: Christ again, the anointed One. And then some swastikas or
Speaker 3: sevastika mangy in the East. It's funny and Japan or
Speaker 3: I'm guessing all Buddhist countries. You find swastikas all over
Speaker 3: the place. It's actually kind of refreshing because people are like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a Buddhist symbol there, it's not people. People don't
Speaker 3: freak out over it. There's some other examples of the
Speaker 3: swastika and the cross, and when that swastika turns. When
Speaker 3: it turns, what you're getting is a wheel. And the
Speaker 3: wheel in the sky keeps on turning like that song, right,
Speaker 3: wheel in the sky keeps on turning. Well, that's what
Speaker 3: we're looking at. We're looking at a wheel in the
Speaker 3: sky turning. What is that wheel? It's the Sun, that's it.
Speaker 3: Now there's a relationship here, not part of this presentation,
Speaker 3: but there's a relationship here to euthology. Because if you
Speaker 3: were to ask somebody what's the oldest example of a
Speaker 3: flying saucer, they'd probably tell you roswell or something that's
Speaker 3: in the eupho mythology. I've never heard anybody say the
Speaker 3: oldest flying saucer is the solar sun. It is a
Speaker 3: flying solar disk, which you'll find in Mesopotamia and in Africa,
Speaker 3: is a winged disc because the Sun flies through the
Speaker 3: air raw. One of the personifications of the Sun has
Speaker 3: a solar barge and the barge rises and falls every day.
Speaker 3: In fact, the whole story of Roswell, the archetype of Roswell,
Speaker 3: is the story of the sun rising and falling. You
Speaker 3: have a solar disk come out of nowhere, fly across
Speaker 3: the sky, and then in the evening crash and you'd
Speaker 3: have to go retrieve the sun and preserve it in
Speaker 3: these symbols, like with the wreath, to make sure that
Speaker 3: there is a preservation of the body of Christ in
Speaker 3: the tomb, so that tomorrow or three days later if
Speaker 3: it's the winter solstice, the sun can rise again. So
Speaker 3: this isn't just this is like Christmas uphology. I think
Speaker 3: it's really it's the story of Roswell essentially, but it's
Speaker 3: within the symbolism of Christmas as well. And so you
Speaker 3: can see on the screen here there is the wheel.
Speaker 3: If you don't know what these things are, you just
Speaker 3: type them in and confirm it. The wheel or the
Speaker 3: chariot of Krishna. Krishna has a will, Krishna is Christos.
Speaker 3: There's the Greek will of Christ spelled ic ht ys.
Speaker 3: And that image I can zoom in here. That image
Speaker 3: if you count, it has six seven, eight, eight different spokes. Well,
Speaker 3: what are those eight spokes. Those eight spokes are the
Speaker 3: eight points of the year, Yule, embulk Ulstara, Beltane, Letha, Lucna,
Speaker 3: sad Meybon, and Somhan. That's a Christian symbol. Though there's
Speaker 3: the will of Ezekiel, there's the god of storms and
Speaker 3: war Ah Shure equivalent to ball or Suzanu or jave
Speaker 3: in a with wings being able to fly. I don't
Speaker 3: think that these images are aliens. They say, well, the
Speaker 3: aliens are in a little disk and they're flying through
Speaker 3: the air. Okay. I think it makes more sense that
Speaker 3: this is a personification, a deification of the Sun. That's
Speaker 3: why there's a deity in the disk with the wings.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that aliens don't exist or whatever the
Speaker 3: pop culture narrative is today, but it's a personification of
Speaker 3: the Sun, which all of that Chris is important because
Speaker 3: it helps us, I think, to understand the Christmas traditions,
Speaker 3: because Christmas ultimately is a mixture of different personifications of
Speaker 3: everything from the Sun to nature in general, which is
Speaker 3: where Santa Claus actually comes from. Santa Claus is nature personified,
Speaker 3: just like Jesus, who I believe was a very real
Speaker 3: person but was merged with the traditions of the Sun
Speaker 3: being personified. So I think that that's very important element.
Speaker 1: One of the most interesting things to me is we
Speaker 1: have the symbols, the universal symbols, which can be easily
Speaker 1: recognizable as the sun. Even if certain scholars are researchers
Speaker 1: believe it to be a symbol of something else, It's
Speaker 1: most likely that they were interpreting things that they could
Speaker 1: see for themselves. But what is really interesting is these
Speaker 1: recurring stories like the Birth of Christ, the Prometheus story,
Speaker 1: the Crucifixion. How these are almost fully formed stories throughout
Speaker 1: different cultures throughout time. And you mentioned you do believe
Speaker 1: that the story of Jesus is based off of a person,
Speaker 1: but this seems to be a recurring story as well
Speaker 1: throughout time. What are your thoughts on the mechanics behind
Speaker 1: these stories and how they keep coming up.
Speaker 3: Well, I am not Joseph Campbell. I will say that
Speaker 3: I'm not Joseph Campbell. I respect Joseph Campbell, and I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure I don't remember where he said this or
Speaker 3: where he wrote this, but I heard somebody quote him
Speaker 3: one time that Joseph Campbell said that he respects people
Speaker 3: that can choose a religion because there's so much in
Speaker 3: the world that it's humbling, and that if you can
Speaker 3: actually pick one and stick with it, then, in all sincerity,
Speaker 3: good for you. I admire that because he's like, I
Speaker 3: can't pick, and that's how I feel. I feel like
Speaker 3: I can't pick. So to answer your question, there are
Speaker 3: so many things in the world. I spent three months
Speaker 3: in Japan, and I'm going places seemingly randomly, and I'm
Speaker 3: finding things that correlate with what I know in the West.
Speaker 3: From the symbolism of owls. The symbolism of the owl
Speaker 3: is identical in Japan to what we know the owl
Speaker 3: to be in classical Greek Roman mythology and to what
Speaker 3: we know the al tobe in Indian mythology. I find
Speaker 3: the same thing with certain symbols in Japan. The reason
Speaker 3: for that, again, to answer your question, is because in
Speaker 3: my opinion, not Joseph Campbell, but I do believe that
Speaker 3: there's a universality to all of this, and that it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you're six foot six Scandinavian giant, or
Speaker 3: you're five foot five Japanese or Ayinu, or you're a
Speaker 3: Hopie or whatever you are, you still have eyes and
Speaker 3: you still see the world, and you still see the
Speaker 3: sun move across the sky, and you still see the
Speaker 3: changing and depending on where you live, the changing of
Speaker 3: the well, the seasons always change no matter where you live,
Speaker 3: but in a north the northern hemisphere, the seasons change
Speaker 3: essentially the same. And so no matter where you are,
Speaker 3: you're going to experience the natural world in a similar way.
Speaker 3: And so you're going to develop traditions and symbols that
Speaker 3: are going to maybe they look different, and they might
Speaker 3: seem completely contrary to one another, but they're going to
Speaker 3: have the same fundamental meaning. Obviously it's not exactly the
Speaker 3: same because we have different interpretations. There have been studies
Speaker 3: done recently on how, for example, the Chinese, or the
Speaker 3: Koreans or the Japanese, how they think. Not that it's
Speaker 3: any better, but it's totally different than how we think
Speaker 3: using languages that are derived from Latin, for example, because
Speaker 3: the characters are so different. They are conceptual and ours
Speaker 3: are more reductionist. And that's not a bad thing because
Speaker 3: to Easterners, we in the West, we think totally different
Speaker 3: than them, and that might be a good or a
Speaker 3: bad thing. So we all see the world similarly, but
Speaker 3: we have different ways that we look at it still,
Speaker 3: and these are universal things, and so that's why I
Speaker 3: think I hope that answers your question, Chris. That's why
Speaker 3: there is a similarity between all of this because we
Speaker 3: all have we're all human, we all have two eyes,
Speaker 3: and we're all experiencing the world in a very similar way,
Speaker 3: especially when you take out of the equation all of
Speaker 3: the modern things that we have, when you take out
Speaker 3: of the equation, the things that keep us entertained in
Speaker 3: the modern way. It's not that it's a bad thing,
Speaker 3: but if you are living in a world where you
Speaker 3: are forced to interact with nature, you're forced to interact
Speaker 3: with the sky, you're forced to interact with the gods, then,
Speaker 3: and you don't have any of these modern technologies whatsoever,
Speaker 3: then you probably are going to be more acquainted with them.
Speaker 3: And that's probably going to be It's not just like
Speaker 3: an interest like it is for me or for you
Speaker 3: or for the audience. It's something you live every single day.
Speaker 3: It's a part of who you are. And there's still
Speaker 3: an example of that actually in places like Japan, where
Speaker 3: they have Shinto that lives next to Buddhism and Shinto
Speaker 3: meaning Shindao the Way of the Gods. Shinto isn't a
Speaker 3: really religion in Japan, and the Japanese don't consider themselves religious.
Speaker 3: But the shrine worship and the nature honoring is just
Speaker 3: a part of life. You get off work, you go
Speaker 3: to the shrine. You have an every New year. Most
Speaker 3: on New Year they go to the shrine to pay
Speaker 3: their respects, or to bring their children to the shrine
Speaker 3: when they're born or at different intervals. It's just baked
Speaker 3: into life. It's not like a secondary thought or something
Speaker 3: you consider yourself. I'm a Christian, nobody really says I'm
Speaker 3: a Shintoist, because it's baked into life. So hope does
Speaker 3: that answer your question?
Speaker 1: Because the only thing that I puzzle over is the
Speaker 1: story of Christ, because I can easily see that it's symbolic,
Speaker 1: it's telling the story of a procession or a lot
Speaker 1: of these stories can be easily compared to what we
Speaker 1: see in the sky, as you were just saying, in
Speaker 1: nature in the sky. But the story of Christ has
Speaker 1: been personified in ways where it's still very much argued
Speaker 1: whether or not there was an actual person there. And
Speaker 1: this is one of those stories. To me, that's a
Speaker 1: little different than just the symbolism that we can compare
Speaker 1: to what we see in nature in the sky. This
Speaker 1: seems to have a personification to it that's a little
Speaker 1: different in a sense that many many believe that this
Speaker 1: was a person, and it seems to be the more
Speaker 1: predominant view that there was a person that existed at
Speaker 1: one time. And the question is was it just one
Speaker 1: time that he existed? This story is so ancient and
Speaker 1: so powerful that it just repeats itself, or is this
Speaker 1: a repeating story where this actual event continues to recur
Speaker 1: throughout history. It's very interesting to me.
Speaker 3: See, I see, I'm sorry, I see what you Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Oh that's all good.
Speaker 1: You did answer the first part.
Speaker 3: So I think that there's a very simple answer to
Speaker 3: that question, and the answer is we have to look
Speaker 3: outside of Christian communities because if you go and you
Speaker 3: speak to a Muslim, there are two point or well
Speaker 3: roughly two plus billion Muslims on planet Earth, and that's
Speaker 3: what is that. That's like a quarter of the planet.
Speaker 3: And Muslims do not believe that there's any significance outside
Speaker 3: of the fact that Jesus was a prophet and a
Speaker 3: very important prophet that the Muslims really really respect and
Speaker 3: really really don't think the things that Western media tells
Speaker 3: you they think. On average, Muslims respect Jesus immensely. He
Speaker 3: was the prophet that, in fact, if it wouldn't be
Speaker 3: for Jesus, there wouldn't be Islam. But if you ask
Speaker 3: a Muslim, they do not believe that there's any divine
Speaker 3: significance to the Jesus story. Now I'm not a Muslim,
Speaker 3: but I agree with Muslims. My point is, if you
Speaker 3: step outside of the Christian sphere, out of the globist crusinger,
Speaker 3: then you'll see that no, not everybody believes this. In fact,
Speaker 3: very few people believe that there's any divine significance to
Speaker 3: the Jesus story. It's just within the Christian world, which
Speaker 3: is about two point four billion people where that is
Speaker 3: the case. If you step outside of that two point
Speaker 3: four billion Christians, you're going to get what five point
Speaker 3: four roughly billion other people. And I don't know those
Speaker 3: five point something other billion people, but I do know
Speaker 3: that in the Muslim world they don't see divine significance.
Speaker 3: And in most of the rest of that five billion
Speaker 3: people likewise, they don't see divine significance. So, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: I think your question not that it's wrong, it's coming,
Speaker 3: but it's coming from a Christian background, which is how
Speaker 3: I grew up. And I've thought the exact same question, Chris,
Speaker 3: and that's the answer that I've come to to answer
Speaker 3: it myself. I think if you step outside the globist crusinger,
Speaker 3: then you'll find that that's not really a con sideration
Speaker 3: for others, but it is. It is universal. And the
Speaker 3: other part of your question is like why does this
Speaker 3: keep popping up? Because it is a again, a universal
Speaker 3: archetype and it has been. The Romans tied it to
Speaker 3: the pagan traditions, which is what everybody always screams, all
Speaker 3: its Christians paganism, like yes and no Christians came into Rome,
Speaker 3: which depending on what period of the Roman Empire. Because
Speaker 3: it was so vast, Rome was very accepting of other religions.
Speaker 3: When everybody else persecuted Jews, the Romans said, Jews can
Speaker 3: have their communities. Jews are not going to be forced
Speaker 3: to fight because of their religious beliefs. The Romans were
Speaker 3: extremely accommodating to religions. Manly Hall wrote, I just learned
Speaker 3: this from Manly Hall when I read his book How
Speaker 3: to Understand Your Bible, and he a historical fact. The
Speaker 3: Christians came into Rome and tried to force the Romans
Speaker 3: to convert to Christianity and set everybody else here is wrong,
Speaker 3: We're right, convert or we're We're going to burn Rome,
Speaker 3: and the Romans didn't tolerate that. But the point is
Speaker 3: later Constantine saw that in Christianity there was a rabid, violent,
Speaker 3: useful cult that could be used to control people. And
Speaker 3: as an Augustus, as a caesar, Constantine says, I will
Speaker 3: convert to Christianity and all of this momentum I will
Speaker 3: take into the empire and use it to crush my enemies.
Speaker 3: That's why Christianity became what it is, because an Augustus
Speaker 3: saw it as an opportunity to take power. Even though
Speaker 3: reportedly Constantine and other emperors too still worship Mithras up
Speaker 3: until their time of death. So it was a co
Speaker 3: opting of a religious cult, which in and of itself,
Speaker 3: that which became the Catholic Church in of itself, wasn't
Speaker 3: really even based on the teachings of Jesus in the
Speaker 3: first place.
Speaker 1: So hopefully, hopefully that means yes, and I saw. I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to derail the presentation too much.
Speaker 3: No, no, no. I think it's a great question, because
Speaker 3: several questions, because it is important to obtain the context
Speaker 3: to this, because you're you're very You're right, Chris. It's
Speaker 3: a thing that pops up again and again and again.
Speaker 3: And I'm also going to say that I don't think
Speaker 3: that that's the full complete answer. It's a very superficial
Speaker 3: answer because we don't have I mean, first of all,
Speaker 3: I don't have all the answers, and second of all,
Speaker 3: we don't have, you know, five months to sit here
Speaker 3: and discuss the complex details of history, and I don't
Speaker 3: even know. So there's so much about I mean, we
Speaker 3: could sit here literally and talk about this particular slide
Speaker 3: for two hours. There's so much here just this one slide.
Speaker 3: So it's a no big deal. I had this other
Speaker 3: slide up. You can see in this slide these are
Speaker 3: called wheels of life, and you can see there's an
Speaker 3: Indian wheel of life. You can type these into the
Speaker 3: computer if you're listening on audio. Indian wheel of life,
Speaker 3: Tibetan wheel of life, Japanese wheel of life, and then
Speaker 3: the classic image of Jesus supporting the world, God supporting
Speaker 3: the world. These are all images that represent a force,
Speaker 3: a power with the palm of the or with the
Speaker 3: world and the palm of their hand in a sense,
Speaker 3: turning the wheel. There is an architect turning the wheel,
Speaker 3: again very much associated with our Christmas tradition. And this
Speaker 3: is the wheel you referenced astrology. Well to the left
Speaker 3: here you can see the zodiac wheel and you can
Speaker 3: see the sun placed on the cross, and on the
Speaker 3: right side you can see the wheel of the year.
Speaker 3: This is the witch's calendar. So I named all of
Speaker 3: these days before Embolko, star Re, Belta one, Leitha, Luna, Sad,
Speaker 3: Maybonne and Yule and so Yule and Litha which is
Speaker 3: the winter and summer solstice, and maybond and Ostada, which
Speaker 3: are the fallen spring equinoxes forms across. And then you
Speaker 3: get the other sabots in bolk, Lucnasad, som Han, Beltane,
Speaker 3: and that creates an x. And when you put them
Speaker 3: together you get the eight points of the year, the
Speaker 3: major and minor sabots, which again are the Greek wheel
Speaker 3: of Jesus. The eight spokes. And also if you look
Speaker 3: at the Viking Compass down below on your screen, you
Speaker 3: could type into the Internet Viking Compass or beg this
Speaker 3: year v E G V I s I R. It
Speaker 3: brings up this eight spoked Viking amulet which was used
Speaker 3: to protect from the elements by invoking the powers of
Speaker 3: all the forces of nature to protect you from the freezing,
Speaker 3: freaking cold. And so you would have that as a
Speaker 3: protective symbol. And the black sun is an important part
Speaker 3: of this. Oh my god, it's a Nazi symbol. The
Speaker 3: black sun is a symbol because when the sun crashes
Speaker 3: like that Roswell story and it becomes dark out well,
Speaker 3: especially if it's dark right now where you're listening to this,
Speaker 3: the sun you can't see the sun. There might be
Speaker 3: a little light if there's reflection from the moon. Most
Speaker 3: of our lights are artificial. But the black sun is
Speaker 3: an important symbol because it represents Jesus in the underworld.
Speaker 3: It represents Almatetasu in the underworld. The sun is gone,
Speaker 3: it's a black son. You can't see it. You can
Speaker 3: maybe see the reflections like Plato's cave, but it's gone,
Speaker 3: and then it will resurrect again. So the black sun
Speaker 3: with its twelve zodiacal lines is a symbol of Jesus
Speaker 3: in essence, just another more nature based verse of explaining
Speaker 3: what you see there to the left, which is the
Speaker 3: zodiac will and the cross with the sun, and that's
Speaker 3: the will of the year. And you can see the
Speaker 3: different elements. As the wheel turns, we get these different
Speaker 3: traditions that have become modern holidays. Okay, now this is
Speaker 3: why this particular slide is why I brought up Zeitgeist,
Speaker 3: because I know because one I used to be this person.
Speaker 3: And two I know the conversation like the back of
Speaker 3: my hand, because I've had it for fifteen years. You know,
Speaker 3: like every week of my life for fifteen years, I
Speaker 3: hear about this kind of stuff. I'm sure you have two. Well,
Speaker 3: it's just the symbol of you know, the sun on
Speaker 3: the cross and the zodiac whill are the disciples of
Speaker 3: Christ and it's birth, death and resurrection and all that.
Speaker 3: And again that is correct. The cross is the axis MOUNDI,
Speaker 3: the Sun is the Son of God s O and
Speaker 3: of God. The cycle is the Trinity, the twelve followers
Speaker 3: of Christ to the Zodiac disciples. Resurrection is of course
Speaker 3: after birth, life, and death. The four quadrants or the
Speaker 3: four elements of the four seasons or the four evangelicals,
Speaker 3: and the twelve nights of Christmas are of course the
Speaker 3: twelve signs of the zodiac or the twelve followers. Again,
Speaker 3: so all of that, I'm going to actually move that
Speaker 3: on my little slide here. All of that can be
Speaker 3: taken from either, well, this image of the will of
Speaker 3: the year or the zodiac wheel here to the left,
Speaker 3: which means animal wheel. And then yes, people point out, well,
Speaker 3: it's the age of Pisces, the fish, that's Jesus. The
Speaker 3: fishers have been and that is accurate, but it's also
Speaker 3: only part of the story because if you go back
Speaker 3: into India you'll find that the fish symbolism is prevalent,
Speaker 3: immensely prevalent throughout Hinduism as well. Look at the cross
Speaker 3: as it relates to man. So it's not just Jesus.
Speaker 3: And I think this also answers your question again, Chris.
Speaker 3: It's not just Jesus that's crucified and pops up over
Speaker 3: and over again. All of us are that symbol. We're
Speaker 3: all connected to the elements air, water, earth, fire, We're
Speaker 3: all the spirit above those elements the spirit above the
Speaker 3: cubicle world, and in Egypt a symbol of the underworld.
Speaker 3: You can see that in the middle of the screen
Speaker 3: called doot is basically a pentagram, and it represents the
Speaker 3: five different points, which is why a pentagram is a
Speaker 3: symbol of protection and defense, that is, unless you invert it,
Speaker 3: because it pulls the spirit upward. It pulls all the
Speaker 3: things about humans upward. That's a good thing. And it
Speaker 3: calls on the directional elements for protection. So you can
Speaker 3: see that, and that is why man is the microcosm
Speaker 3: of the macrocosmic world. There's the macrocosm, there's the microcosm
Speaker 3: of man. So we are within the larger, and the
Speaker 3: larger is within and without us. These are some other
Speaker 3: examples of that. Osiris in the coffin, just like Jesus
Speaker 3: in the cave, or Moses in the basket, or the
Speaker 3: list of stories goes on and on and on. Hey,
Speaker 3: this is an image of Amattasu. Very famous image, probably
Speaker 3: one of the most famous, I would say famous paintings
Speaker 3: of any kind of Japanese myth. This is from eighteen sixty.
Speaker 3: Udugawa Puni Sada painted this and this is Amaateetasu coming
Speaker 3: out of the cave, and you can see there to
Speaker 3: the left. If you kind of zoom, I could zoom
Speaker 3: in for you a little bit here kind of see
Speaker 3: this tree over here, this tree, and there's the mirror,
Speaker 3: and there's these decorations on the tree. That's our Christmas tree.
Speaker 3: That's a very I mean, I mean, okay, so it
Speaker 3: comes post Germanic traditions. People think, oh, well, the Germans
Speaker 3: must have brought this to or the Dutch brought it
Speaker 3: to Japan or something. I'm sure there's and that's you're right.
Speaker 3: A lot of traditions have been brought to different parts
Speaker 3: of the world, like for example today, I honestly didn't
Speaker 3: know this till last night, but in the nineteen seventies
Speaker 3: KFC did this big advertising campaign in Japan and now
Speaker 3: every year for Christmas, Japanese EKFC. So that's a tradition.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That's like one of the biggest
Speaker 3: traditions in JAPANFC. So that things can be imported and
Speaker 3: things can be adopted. Usually if something is adopted, it's
Speaker 3: not necessarily because some barbarians came in and beat people
Speaker 3: skulls in you usually because what's being imported already conforms
Speaker 3: to what is being practiced. So in Shintoism, Chris which
Speaker 3: I am, if I had to classify myself, I would
Speaker 3: prefer the Shinto label. So in Shintoism, nature is like
Speaker 3: the most important element. And so almost all of the
Speaker 3: shrines in Japan, almost all of them are within areas
Speaker 3: of very thick nature. The shrine of Amatosu, the most
Speaker 3: important shrine of all East had Jingu, is in very
Speaker 3: very dense woods over streams, and it's just immaculate and beautiful.
Speaker 3: And so if you're importing these ideas, for if that
Speaker 3: were to be the case, if you're importing these ideas
Speaker 3: and saying, well, the Japanese only have that tradition because
Speaker 3: of the Germans or something, well, if that were the case,
Speaker 3: it would also be the case that they would have
Speaker 3: adopted that as well, because well, they already not worshiped
Speaker 3: the tree, but they saw the tree as a representative
Speaker 3: of the divine. So again a universality that even if imported,
Speaker 3: it would have been accepted and not had to have
Speaker 3: been forced because it was already practiced by the people
Speaker 3: of those islands. In part, so you can see though
Speaker 3: without disputed. There's the Christmas tree with the mirror on it.
Speaker 3: A little hard to see with the sun rays, but
Speaker 3: there's a Christmas tree with the mirror and all these
Speaker 3: decorations on it, right, I find that to be fascinating. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is in Japan too. This is an example of
Speaker 3: this is called Ishibutai. And again I know people might think, well,
Speaker 3: why are you talking about Japan. It's Christmas time. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm just showing you an example of a very far
Speaker 3: off land where they practice the same things do and
Speaker 3: it's not because we crammed it down their throats. It's
Speaker 3: because every human saw the world the same way. There are,
Speaker 3: actually I don't know the exact number. I think there
Speaker 3: are like thousands of mounds in Japan, the same kinds
Speaker 3: of mounds Chris that we call the mound builder civilization
Speaker 3: in North America. Japan, on the Japanese Islands, there are
Speaker 3: mounds that are so old they don't even know what
Speaker 3: they were used for. So you find and what we
Speaker 3: do know is that when I went to Ishibutai, there's
Speaker 3: a sarcophagus there and if they have an English translation
Speaker 3: of the sign, and it's really funny. It says that
Speaker 3: there was not a sarcophagus found in this what you're
Speaker 3: looking at this image of this underground little crypt. There
Speaker 3: was not a sarcophagus found, but we think that if
Speaker 3: one were to be found, this is what it would
Speaker 3: look like. Which is funny because they're claiming that this site,
Speaker 3: which is really only that they claim was used for
Speaker 3: burying a chieftain or the leader of a clan. For
Speaker 3: a site that's only what really a couple of one hundred
Speaker 3: years old, they claimed that it was rated and they
Speaker 3: took this massive sarcophagus out of it. That is the
Speaker 3: That is literally the same argument that Egyptologists used for
Speaker 3: the Great Pyramid of Giza. It's literally the same argument
Speaker 3: that archaeologists use in South and Central America. Well, hm,
Speaker 3: we didn't find anything, but if we did find it,
Speaker 3: we think this is what it would look like. This
Speaker 3: is universal again universal wow, and what is that megalithic
Speaker 3: blocks of megalithic building. There's a you can say that's
Speaker 3: me obviously, I'm six foot one, so this is big.
Speaker 3: And it is again Ama Tetasu in the cave being resurrected.
Speaker 3: In my assessment, it has something to do even if
Speaker 3: it was co opted later, or if it was, if
Speaker 3: it was co opted later by people that wanted to
Speaker 3: use it as a tomb, it was probably at one
Speaker 3: point or another used for the mystery school initiations death
Speaker 3: and resurrection while living ishibutaiufun and there's esa jingu you
Speaker 3: can see or jinga. You can see the fact if
Speaker 3: you zoom in and I have an image of it
Speaker 3: on the next slide. Actually it no, maybe I don't.
Speaker 3: I think it's later. If you zoom in here on
Speaker 3: this image, or you could type this in say I
Speaker 3: E j I n g u, and you can see
Speaker 3: you see that white there above the heads of the tourists.
Speaker 3: That's a veil. It's the exact same kind of veil
Speaker 3: that Isis wears in Egypt. And you want to hear
Speaker 3: something really crazy, isa I s E. If you put
Speaker 3: an a where the E is isa isa isa is
Speaker 3: Arabic for Jesus interesting, and you want to hear something
Speaker 3: even crazier I z e. You replace the S with
Speaker 3: a Z or the S with a Z in the
Speaker 3: E with an asa. Similar pronunciation. Is where we get
Speaker 3: the Giza plateau, which is the womb of Isis with
Speaker 3: the veil, which is the same veil in front of
Speaker 3: the Isa Jingu shrine is isa Isa Maybe a coincidence,
Speaker 3: but the relationship between the womb and the resurrection on
Speaker 3: the Giza Plateau and Isa in Arabic meaning Jesus, and
Speaker 3: then the literally the shrine with the veil, the white
Speaker 3: veil of the bride in Japan thousands of miles away,
Speaker 3: is a striking, striking thing to me, and it all
Speaker 3: relates to Christmas, so we can enter part two of
Speaker 3: the Christmas discussion.
Speaker 1: The simplest explanation to me is that possibly sometime in
Speaker 1: our ancient past, there was a global civilization, a global
Speaker 1: understanding of how to construct megalithic structures of certain belief systems,
Speaker 1: how to be harmonious with nature. It may be possible
Speaker 1: that this was a universally practiced belief system that was
Speaker 1: across the planet at one time.
Speaker 3: I've considered that too. I don't really have a dogma
Speaker 3: in that fight, but that's a very I think, probably
Speaker 3: common response I've had myself to finding out that all
Speaker 3: of this is very closely related. I wonder what listeners think.
Speaker 3: I think that's probably the easiest assessment, and I think
Speaker 3: it's just as valid as you know, just kind of
Speaker 3: assuming that people would have the same views because we're
Speaker 3: all human and we were all experiencing water and trees
Speaker 3: and rocks and dirt and wind and storms and coming
Speaker 3: up with these personified concepts and then they do blend
Speaker 3: together later whatever the case is. It's a good point.
Speaker 3: You know, we'll probably really never know the answer to that,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it does seem like there is a not
Speaker 3: just a universality within the symbolism, but a universality within
Speaker 3: the origin of it, perhaps too, being related to some
Speaker 3: kind of global, connected, interconnected society, even if it's not
Speaker 3: some like Golden Age utopia like we think. It could
Speaker 3: have just been that people could certainly travel more in
Speaker 3: ancient times than we give them credit for, and it
Speaker 3: could have had something to do with that as well. Okay,
Speaker 3: so now this is probably the real meat or the
Speaker 3: tofu for people listening to what they thought they might
Speaker 3: hear with an occult origins of Christmas. And that is
Speaker 3: and we can keep this very simple. That is, look
Speaker 3: looking at the end of the year and we say
Speaker 3: happy holidays. It's almost robotic. People say it kind of robotic, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I have happy Holidays. Happy. It's like a ritual, and
Speaker 3: it's like an incantation, Happy Holidays, Happy Holidays. Happy. I
Speaker 3: know you don't mean that. I know you're just saying
Speaker 3: that because what everybody else says, you don't have to
Speaker 3: say it's okay. Well, where does all this come from? Holidays?
Speaker 3: It comes from the Old English. It means holy days
Speaker 3: and the holy days. Something holy is something that is revered.
Speaker 3: We revere these days when we revere all days, because
Speaker 3: they are an expression. What happens on these days is
Speaker 3: an expression of the divine. And so if you read
Speaker 3: the Bible, or if you're familiar with end times what
Speaker 3: people call revelations predictions things like that, you'll know about
Speaker 3: armageddon and the apocalypse. And these are really scary words.
Speaker 3: I just watched a South Park last night where Cartman
Speaker 3: was preaching about he was condemning everybody to hell and
Speaker 3: healing people on stage, and the parents came up and said, hey,
Speaker 3: stop what they tell me to, like, stop stop damning
Speaker 3: people or something, or stop stop preaching the apocalypse. So
Speaker 3: this is the simplest thing in the world, Chris, Because
Speaker 3: all you have to do in twenty twenty four is
Speaker 3: use a dictionary, and yes, words change over time, but
Speaker 3: you can find the etymological origin of words and what
Speaker 3: they mean. Okay, Armageddon and this should alleviate all the
Speaker 3: fears people have if you're objective about it. Armageddon, all
Speaker 3: it means is the last battle between good and evil?
Speaker 3: What is good light? What is evil darkness? We're done.
Speaker 3: That's it in the conversation. You can apply that to
Speaker 3: real world events because from our perspective as Americans, and
Speaker 3: and then break it down more a perspective, from a
Speaker 3: democratic perspective. From a republican country X is the bad guy,
Speaker 3: We're the good guy Country X. For that other country,
Speaker 3: US being country X for example, we might be the
Speaker 3: bad guy, they're the good guy. World leaders have recently
Speaker 3: said that this group of people over here that we're
Speaker 3: bombing are the children of darkness. We are the children
Speaker 3: of light. Literally said that. So, and that's actually in
Speaker 3: the region of the world where Armageddon is supposed to
Speaker 3: take place. So armageddon has one meaning. It's the last
Speaker 3: battle and is the battle between good and evil. Now,
Speaker 3: this is something that we experience, yes, in political things,
Speaker 3: but it's something we experience every day. Good and evil.
Speaker 3: Should I continue to drink as much as I do.
Speaker 3: Should I continue to eat as much as I do?
Speaker 3: Should I continue to do these drugs? Should I continue
Speaker 3: to do X? We're battling, We're struggling. That's something that
Speaker 3: happens all the time. And so good and evil have
Speaker 3: been personified. They've been personified as angels and demons, and
Speaker 3: they've been personified as Santa Claus and his lovely helper
Speaker 3: ruprict Or. Many know them as crump Us. Right. The apocalypse,
Speaker 3: same thing, very simple. Apocalypse comes from the Greek. It
Speaker 3: literally translates to uncover. That's it. And what do we uncover?
Speaker 3: We uncover the veil or lift the veil of AMATETUSU
Speaker 3: or Isis. So there's a clear on the video image
Speaker 3: of the veil lifting the veil. Behind that is the
Speaker 3: central shrine of Amatetus, of the sun goddess rolling away
Speaker 3: the stone or the big rock. And there is Isis
Speaker 3: behind a red veil. And for discerning listeners and people
Speaker 3: watching the video, if you look close at that image
Speaker 3: of Isis with the red veil, she has grapes wine blood,
Speaker 3: and she has wheat bread body on her breasts, and
Speaker 3: she is like Amatetsu a representative of nature, personification of nature,
Speaker 3: lifting the veil. That's it. We lift the velthy the
Speaker 3: end of the year, we learn the secrets of nature,
Speaker 3: and there's a transition of power between the Holly and
Speaker 3: Oak kings. One rules the world for half the year,
Speaker 3: the other rules the world for the other half of
Speaker 3: the year. You're watching the video, you can read this
Speaker 3: quote from the Witch's Bible, which is not an evil book.
Speaker 3: It's just a book about nature, and they describe what
Speaker 3: the Holly King and the Oak King are in the myth,
Speaker 3: and for time's sake, all jump through this. In essence,
Speaker 3: Santa is Nature personified. Nature gives us life and death,
Speaker 3: reward and punishment, pleasure and pain, abundance, blessings, grace and forgiveness,
Speaker 3: gifts from the divine like the blood spilling out of
Speaker 3: Jesus in that depiction of the World Fountain or the
Speaker 3: World Naval a fountain of life. And so during this
Speaker 3: time of the year, the veil lifts and we get
Speaker 3: the four horses. Well, we get another exchange of power
Speaker 3: between the Oak and the Holly King, and between the horses,
Speaker 3: the red horse, the black horse, the Pale horse, and
Speaker 3: the white horse. This is another thing that if you
Speaker 3: are objective about it, you will no longer be afraid
Speaker 3: of the four horses, because it's very simple. They are,
Speaker 3: among many other things, they are personifications of the four
Speaker 3: parts of the year, and it's very sin to see
Speaker 3: when you look at the pale horse death. Chloros that's
Speaker 3: the Greek name for the horse. They never taught me
Speaker 3: that in Bible school. Chloros. What is chloros, well, it
Speaker 3: originally chlorophyll. The word comes from the French. It's chlorophyll.
Speaker 3: That's what gives plants the green. That's what gives plants
Speaker 3: that distinct color that they have. And when the sun
Speaker 3: dissipates and the plants don't get as much sun and
Speaker 3: it starts to get cold out, what happens. They lose
Speaker 3: the color and they fall, which is why we call
Speaker 3: it fall autumn. And when that happens, that's a sign
Speaker 3: of the end times. That's a sign of the end
Speaker 3: of the year, the fall of man. But we will
Speaker 3: be resurrected because the white horse ridden by Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, etc.
Speaker 3: And also a very important symbol in Shintoism. In Japan too,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of horses at shrines because they used
Speaker 3: to be donated. They're called Emma. Emma. White horses ride
Speaker 3: and provide us with victory over darkness, and then the
Speaker 3: red horse rides and provides us with victory in the
Speaker 3: war against evil. And then eventually the red horse fails
Speaker 3: and we have the black horse of famine. During the
Speaker 3: harvest season, if we don't get enough which is where
Speaker 3: tithing comes from, we don't store enough food, we might
Speaker 3: die because we don't have enough to eat. And that's
Speaker 3: where you get the four horses from. And so in essence, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really fascinating. And for the record, I don't want
Speaker 3: to sound like I'm completely authoritative on this, because everybody's
Speaker 3: perspective not that it's right, it's valid in the sense
Speaker 3: that you can provide a perspective that nobody else can,
Speaker 3: and you might see something that nobody else has seen before.
Speaker 3: Because I never learned and Chris anything about the four horses.
Speaker 3: Nobody taught me this. I realize this not because I'm smart,
Speaker 3: but just because I spend my whole life looking at it.
Speaker 3: A lot of this other stuff I did learn from
Speaker 3: other people like Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung or Manly P.
Speaker 3: Hall or my friend Jordan Maxwell, et cetera. But stuff
Speaker 3: like this, the horses I learned, I learned that myself.
Speaker 3: So you, as an individual and I'm nobody special, You
Speaker 3: as an individual can find things that maybe others have missed.
Speaker 3: And it's a valid point. So, in essence, Santa Claus
Speaker 3: is all the following. He is the wild man, the
Speaker 3: man of the woods, the green man, old man, Winter Father,
Speaker 3: Christmas Center, Klaus, Saint Nicholas, Saint Nicholas, Nicholas of Scion,
Speaker 3: Sank s A n k T sink Nicholas in the Netherlands, Belgium,
Speaker 3: Germany and Austria. He is nature personified. Nicholas of Myra.
Speaker 3: Saint Nicholas, the fourth century Christian saint and Greek bisho
Speaker 3: who lived in modern day Turkey. He performed miracles. He
Speaker 3: was known as Nicolas the wonder Worker. He also gave
Speaker 3: gifts secretly to people. So Santa comes at night secretly,
Speaker 3: and he left coins and shoes, i e. Stockings. Santa
Speaker 3: Claus is father, old man, father time, crampis rupric old nick.
Speaker 3: He's all of these things. And what is the Santa
Speaker 3: Claus Santa Claus the clause, Well, it's the naughtier nice list.
Speaker 3: It's the contractual obligation. It's the candy or coal, and
Speaker 3: who gives us coal in traditions elves. Elves give us
Speaker 3: coal and it turns into gold in the traditions the
Speaker 3: fairy lore. I learned that from Jacques Pallet, and then
Speaker 3: I read other books on fairies and I found other
Speaker 3: correlations that fairies give us a lot more than just
Speaker 3: that fairies and el It's like Halloween trick or tree
Speaker 3: mischief or candy. Would you like the trick, well, you're
Speaker 3: going to get it if you don't want it unless
Speaker 3: you give us the candy. It's a threat the claws,
Speaker 3: which I believe is French. Also like chlorophyll, where the
Speaker 3: word comes from. It's a contractual stipulation. Are you going
Speaker 3: to be good this year? Children? Or are you going
Speaker 3: to be bad? Would you like Santa to bring you
Speaker 3: a gift? Or would you like ruprict to beat you
Speaker 3: with a stick, which is what rupric does, Well, he
Speaker 3: smacks in you hand. So what does old man nature bring?
Speaker 3: Old man nature brings us? And that's an example on
Speaker 3: the screen of Santa Claus before he was in the
Speaker 3: Red and White Santa used to be dressed in green, brown,
Speaker 3: and sometimes blue, but usually green and brown because that's
Speaker 3: the color of a tree. Santa Claus is the tree essentially,
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, if you look at the
Speaker 3: tree and then you associate it with what everybody knows
Speaker 3: as saturnalia, what is Saturn known as the lord of
Speaker 3: the rings tree rings denochronology. So Santa is the tree.
Speaker 3: Osiris was in a pillar. That's the tree. So the
Speaker 3: Old Man brings us nuts and seeds and fruits. There's
Speaker 3: the orange, which the orange I showed you earlier is
Speaker 3: a very traditional fruit that children would be given. And
Speaker 3: the orange, cut a slice of it. What does that
Speaker 3: look like? It looks like the sun. So the fruit
Speaker 3: of the orange is the microcosm of the macrocosmic sun.
Speaker 3: It is in a correspondence with the sun. So, for example,
Speaker 3: if you wanted to worship the sun, cut a slice
Speaker 3: of orange, offer it up to the sun. Or if
Speaker 3: you want to obtain the power of the sun, eat
Speaker 3: an orange. That's magic. The Old Man is the evergreen
Speaker 3: and evergreens opposed to the sidious plants. Evergreens like the
Speaker 3: fur and pine and pine trees, holly and mistletoe as well.
Speaker 3: They're ever there, or you could say, if you're looking
Speaker 3: at the video, they are ever present. Right, I'm going
Speaker 3: to add that to my presentation. Actually, they're ever present.
Speaker 3: They're always there. They're always a gift from nature. They're
Speaker 3: there for you to make sure that you have everything
Speaker 3: you need. That's what nature does, that's what nature gives
Speaker 3: us in her bounty, so green and brown. Santa Claus,
Speaker 3: Father Odin, Father Vodon, old Nick. We'll talk about this
Speaker 3: very very quickly. Father Odin lives at the North Pole.
Speaker 3: He has a white beard. He rides an eight legged
Speaker 3: horse named slate Near, derived from Old Norse to mean
Speaker 3: slippy or sliding, reminding us of Santa's eight reindeer and sleigh,
Speaker 3: since a sled is used for sliding. Odin is also
Speaker 3: the one who brings us the center of the world,
Speaker 3: like in the first couple of images I showed you,
Speaker 3: Father Vodon. This is really interesting. Vodon is kind of
Speaker 3: like Odin. People would argue over, especially Scandinavian Norse scholars,
Speaker 3: people that love those myths would probably be able to
Speaker 3: describe Odin and Votan and who they are better than I.
Speaker 3: But in essence they are the same, but they are
Speaker 3: separate at the same time. So there's quite a bit
Speaker 3: of debate about what these characters are, but they're in
Speaker 3: essence they are the same. Nick was a name given
Speaker 3: to Vodon as a holly king figure. During this time
Speaker 3: of the year, Vodon became known as Nick. Does that
Speaker 3: sound familiar? Nick? Who's Nick? The old man named Nick
Speaker 3: Old Nick Old Saint Nick Votan was a ghostly rider
Speaker 3: who led the ghostly army in the storm during the
Speaker 3: twelve days around New Year's Day. Those are the twel
Speaker 3: days of Christmas. They have pre Christmas twelve days and
Speaker 3: post Christmas twelve days. The pre Christmas twelve days are
Speaker 3: known as the raw nights because they are so raw
Speaker 3: and freaking cold and dry and dark and wicked, and
Speaker 3: you hear storms and thunder and lightning, and those are
Speaker 3: the ghostly riders riding through the air and their sleighs,
Speaker 3: bringing well both gifts and punishments. Father Vodon is an
Speaker 3: embodiment of this myth, called Rubisol, a spirit from the
Speaker 3: mountains between historic Bohemia and Cilicia. A keen to the
Speaker 3: wild man of the woods. This character is a great
Speaker 3: hunter and is pictured smoking a pipe like Father Christmas,
Speaker 3: and that would mean that as a wild man of
Speaker 3: the woods, a great hunter, they are like Osiris nimrod
Speaker 3: Herne the hunter. And if you look at the image
Speaker 3: in the video here, those of you who are just listening,
Speaker 3: think about Orion's belt Oriyan the hunter with the arrow
Speaker 3: and the bow, and he has a companion, Kindness Major,
Speaker 3: which is the companion of Osiris Anubis in the underworld,
Speaker 3: which is a reflection of that above. So here's old Nick,
Speaker 3: Old Nick. And this is another thing I just I
Speaker 3: just learned this like this week, Old Nick, or I
Speaker 3: didn't learn it. I just realized it this week, which
Speaker 3: is why everybody's you know, perspective is valid because someone
Speaker 3: might point out, oh my god, did you think about this, Well,
Speaker 3: I didn't think about the fact that Old Nick is
Speaker 3: totally black fur, all black. That's how elves are depicted,
Speaker 3: all black, sometimes silhouetted, but all black. He steals children.
Speaker 3: Elves steal children. That's what a changelinge is. Elves give coal.
Speaker 3: Old Nick gives coal because you've been bad. Old Nick
Speaker 3: personifies cold, dark and black in essence evil Or if
Speaker 3: you've seen SpongeBob with the dirty bubble evil. So yeah,
Speaker 3: he personifies evil and he teaches you a lesson. It's
Speaker 3: a punishment, it's a lesson. You should be good, you
Speaker 3: should obey your parents, you should follow the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 3: This is what I don't understand about people getting upset
Speaker 3: about Crampis or are they get getting upset about ruprict
Speaker 3: or something. It's like, it's the opposite of evil. Crampis
Speaker 3: is telling you follow the Ten Commandments. So when you
Speaker 3: get upset at Crampis and he's an evil, demonic creature,
Speaker 3: you're saying, don't follow the Ten Commandments. That's how the
Speaker 3: devil tricks these Christians into rejecting morality. It is an evil,
Speaker 3: wicked thing. Crampis is actually a good guy, just don't
Speaker 3: do bad thing. So here's Belschnickel. You might remember Dwight
Speaker 3: from the Office. Oh yeah, dressed up. Yeah, which is
Speaker 3: cool because that means I went to film school. Didn't
Speaker 3: do anything with it, but I went to film school,
Speaker 3: and you know, I always kind of humorously would argue
Speaker 3: with people like you can learn something from TV like
Speaker 3: most of you. I learned about bell Schnickel from the Office,
Speaker 3: and I learned how to spell bananas from that song
Speaker 3: bananas b A N A n as. You can't learn
Speaker 3: something from the trash of Hollywood. So bell Snickel, otherwise
Speaker 3: known as Chris Kinkle, sounds like Chris Crinkle. I even thought,
Speaker 3: did I spell that right? And then I went back
Speaker 3: and double checked, and that's how you spell it. It's
Speaker 3: Chris Kinkle. Chris Kinkle. So he's a German character, and
Speaker 3: he appears to children before Christmas, asking them have you behaved?
Speaker 3: Have you behaved? Have you followed your penance guidelines? Have
Speaker 3: you done what your stuffs to do? And he'll throw
Speaker 3: some candies and cakes and nuts on the floor and children,
Speaker 3: like in the marshmallow experiment, you can have a marshmallow now,
Speaker 3: or you can have two if you can wait. He
Speaker 3: throws these things on the floor. And if children can
Speaker 3: control their greed and gluttony, good, they get the fruits
Speaker 3: and the snacks and the cakes. If they can't, he
Speaker 3: hits them with a stick. No candy for you. He
Speaker 3: smacks them with the stick. Now, this is a character
Speaker 3: in the next slide. Frankly, I don't know how to
Speaker 3: correctly pronounce it. If you want to, you want to
Speaker 3: take a stab at it. How you pronounce that name.
Speaker 1: Julu Puki.
Speaker 3: That's what I would say too, Chris, he had ki
Speaker 3: Julu Puki, Okay. So he's a He's known as the
Speaker 3: Finish She's in Finland, the Finnish Christmas Goat or the
Speaker 3: Yule Goat. The goats are related to Thor, god of
Speaker 3: storms fertility, so we're back to the ghost riders and
Speaker 3: the storms. Thor commands a chariot pulled by goats, which
Speaker 3: would be the sleigh sled reindeer. Julpuki is a mixture
Speaker 3: of Santa Claus and these evil spirits called Nouti Puki
Speaker 3: and they in Finland, and they these characters would go
Speaker 3: door to door demanding gifts from you and saying give
Speaker 3: us the gifts or something bad might happen, which means
Speaker 3: it's the Halloween trick or treating. The spirits go door
Speaker 3: to door and say can we get some candy? And
Speaker 3: if you say no, they say we're going to tpee
Speaker 3: your house. So if you merge those spirits with Santa Claus,
Speaker 3: which is the good, these spirits are the bad. Together.
Speaker 3: Joel Puki is a mixture of both good and bad,
Speaker 3: and he brings gifts to children via doorbells. He brings
Speaker 3: the doorbell ding dong, and he says, are there any
Speaker 3: well behaved children here? And if there are, you get
Speaker 3: a gift. If not, oh you might be boiled alive.
Speaker 3: As a really is a very it's a very German
Speaker 3: way of teaching kids how to behave do what you're
Speaker 3: supposed to do, or we're gonna put you in a
Speaker 3: boiling pot of water. Hansel and Gretel stuff. Yeah, some
Speaker 3: gangster parents, some gangs. It's some mafia parents. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: has robes and drives a sleigh. Now, in the case
Speaker 3: of Juelpuki, Jill Pokey comes way later after Santa Claus
Speaker 3: has already developed. So here's a great example of a
Speaker 3: character who is kind of like post development of the
Speaker 3: modern tradition in a sense. So he is an example
Speaker 3: of something that would come way after Christ, way after
Speaker 3: Santa Claus. He's just a mixture of a lot of
Speaker 3: more modern traditions and old traditions, ancient traditions like the
Speaker 3: new Tipuki, old and modern mixed together, and here you
Speaker 3: get Jewel Pooky. I think that's really it's really interesting.
Speaker 3: And he and he comes on January thirteenth, comes after Christmas,
Speaker 3: and the day he comes is called Saint Canuts stay.
Speaker 3: It's called Nuten Paiva. I don't know if I'm pronouncing
Speaker 3: that right, but sat Nuts Day, and it's a day
Speaker 3: where people would plunder their Christmas trees, take down decorations
Speaker 3: and make sure that all the candies and cookies and
Speaker 3: all of that were eaten. Interesting, here's another depiction of
Speaker 3: in beating a child with a stick, which is what
Speaker 3: Rupric does very quickly for time's sake. This is the
Speaker 3: Yule log in burn. It's burned in honor of the
Speaker 3: world tree. And remember earlier I said they take the
Speaker 3: ash from the burning of the yul of the tree. Well,
Speaker 3: we burn the tree, we burned the Yule log. We
Speaker 3: burn the Yule tree, and we take the ashes and
Speaker 3: we should smear them on our heads and our bodies.
Speaker 3: And that's like the ash Wednesday. There's the Yule buck,
Speaker 3: which is the goat, the braided goat ebyx. And that
Speaker 3: is again that takes us back to Jewel Pookie, the
Speaker 3: Yule goat, and it of course relates to to Crampis,
Speaker 3: because we see Satan as a goat, the black billy goat,
Speaker 3: and the trying to find it. Yeah, the Yu'll goat,
Speaker 3: the Christmas goat, the You'll goat. So the Yule goat
Speaker 3: is the same thing as the Yule buck. So that's
Speaker 3: I mean, this is all Scandinavian and nature where this
Speaker 3: stuff comes from. But you get again a more modern
Speaker 3: version of the Yule goat. But then this is a
Speaker 3: more ancient version in the form of the Yule buck.
Speaker 3: And for anybody who's watching, you can pause now and
Speaker 3: you can read about Yule where it comes from, the
Speaker 3: old Nordic Yule and the Anglo Saxon's called December of
Speaker 3: mid winter Monat or the Yule Monat, which is midwinter,
Speaker 3: the month of Yule. And for those of you listening,
Speaker 3: you could get a copy of my book Ocult Arkenna,
Speaker 3: and I have a section. It's a gigantic book, but
Speaker 3: I have a section on Christmas. All the stuff in
Speaker 3: the book. Here's the Christmas tree again, very simple. We're
Speaker 3: already learning this, We've already learned this evergreen reminder of
Speaker 3: nature's bounty. It's a preserve of life. It's a symbol
Speaker 3: of the axis mondy, the human spine, and the umbilical
Speaker 3: cord between Earth and heaven Christmas trees. They are derived
Speaker 3: from Germanic tradition. There was a Christmas period pyramid as well.
Speaker 3: The pyramid has the all Seni at the top where
Speaker 3: isis oversees everything. That's the apex that's going to be
Speaker 3: the all s and I. And that is what your
Speaker 3: Christmas tree is. No, it's not the Illuminati. You put
Speaker 3: the tree light at the top and you have all
Speaker 3: the lights around it. It represents countless things, as we've
Speaker 3: talked about already, and the light from above shining down
Speaker 3: below gives us gifts. The word I didn't know this
Speaker 3: until last year. I studied German, but I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I was like Tannin and bomb and there's a song
Speaker 3: tanning bomb and oh it means for a tree. I
Speaker 3: didn't know that. That's interesting. Again, you can pause here
Speaker 3: and you can look at the origins of the tree
Speaker 3: in the Bible. Jeremiah ten three through four. Jeremiah ten
Speaker 3: three through four talks about the cutting of trees and
Speaker 3: the coating of those trees with silver and gold, with
Speaker 3: nails and hammers and all that. And that's again that's
Speaker 3: another example of our Christmas tree traditions. This is a
Speaker 3: quote from Joseph Campbell. You can read that if you
Speaker 3: want to pause. It's about the resurrection after the crucifixion
Speaker 3: of Attis. How a pine tree was cut on the
Speaker 3: twenty second of March and brought the Sabelli's sanctuary and
Speaker 3: they used it to honor Attis who was killed. We
Speaker 3: have Christmas decorations, Christmas decorations, ornaments. The ornaments are like planets,
Speaker 3: balls or witch balls. They're protective amulets against darkness during Halloween.
Speaker 3: You could type this in witch ball. Sixteenth century witch
Speaker 3: balls were basically little glass balls with mirrors with a
Speaker 3: piece of hair inside, and that would ward off evil
Speaker 3: and witches, and so they're kind of like protective symbols.
Speaker 3: The lights are, of course the sun. They are phallic
Speaker 3: in nature. The star is the heavenly guide which brought
Speaker 3: the wise men to the birth of Jesus. The tensil
Speaker 3: is the snow, and it's also again in the book
Speaker 3: of Jeremiah ten three through four. We have evergreen plants,
Speaker 3: we have holly. We have missletoe or missletoe. The green,
Speaker 3: the red, and the white are very important colors life blood, menstruation,
Speaker 3: birthing blood, etc. For the red green is of course
Speaker 3: plant life, and the green man male white is puritary birth,
Speaker 3: the white horse and seamen plants. Here's a quote you
Speaker 3: can read from a World mythology book about Balder, a
Speaker 3: fertility god who dies and is resurrected Balder. Here is
Speaker 3: another quote if you want to pause and read this.
Speaker 3: This is about the oak King and how the missletoe
Speaker 3: was used to kill one of these kings, and how
Speaker 3: they were crucified on a T shaped cross. You want
Speaker 3: to pause that and read that. For people on video. Saturnalia,
Speaker 3: this is of course very famous, very very famous. The
Speaker 3: word literally translates to matters relating to Saturn, matters of Saturn.
Speaker 3: Here is the tree, the lord of the rings. God
Speaker 3: exists within the crops and trees. From wheat we get bread,
Speaker 3: body from wine or the vine we get the wine blood.
Speaker 3: Saturn Elia. Mass is the mass, the gathering of things
Speaker 3: that relate to Saturn, the Lord of the rings. So
Speaker 3: those are things like feasting, singing, dancing, giving gifts just
Speaker 3: like the gifts given to us by Jesus. Frigid ishtar
Speaker 3: isis mattetasu in so many more. They have a tradition
Speaker 3: in the Saturnalia story about it's called the Lords of Misrule.
Speaker 3: Lords of Misrule was when people would change their positions
Speaker 3: in society and servants would become masters for a day,
Speaker 3: and servants would wear something called the pylos, which is
Speaker 3: a hat like a skull cap that symbolizes freedom and
Speaker 3: higher social status. It's also known as the cap of Mithra,
Speaker 3: the Unconquered Son, soul invictus, and December twenty fifth was
Speaker 3: called dis Natali Invicti Solis, the birthday of the Invincible Sun.
Speaker 3: And that is why one of the reasons why, but
Speaker 3: one of the major reasons why Christmas as we know
Speaker 3: it today as a Christian celebration was so easily transmitted
Speaker 3: from Pagan origins to what we call Christian origins because
Speaker 3: it's basically the exact same thing. They're just moving Methra
Speaker 3: out of the way and putting Jesus in there, which
Speaker 3: is really an insult and it's really, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: it's insulting, and it's it's an abomination that if you'd
Speaker 3: dismiss all of the other origins of this and think
Speaker 3: it's just strictly we own this as Christians, I think
Speaker 3: that's abhorrent. In the same way that rejecting Crampis, who's
Speaker 3: telling you to live by the ten commandments or you're
Speaker 3: going to be punished. How's that any different than the devil?
Speaker 3: I think that's abhorrent to destroy the Crampis image, But
Speaker 3: I also think it's horrible to worship Crampis as some
Speaker 3: like wonderful thing, which there are like weird Satanists that
Speaker 3: do that. So but you can see that on the screen,
Speaker 3: or you know what this looks like if you're listening
Speaker 3: the Santa hat that comes from the hat worn by Mithra.
Speaker 3: If you want to pause these slides, this will tell
Speaker 3: you a little bit about Christmas and saturn Elia as
Speaker 3: they relate to dates. Saturn Elia was on December seventeenth,
Speaker 3: and there was kind of a Honkah celebration, as the
Speaker 3: Jews celebrate. It might have even came from Honika, because
Speaker 3: the Jews were very welcome in Rome at several different
Speaker 3: points of the Roman Empire historically, so it might even
Speaker 3: there might be a relation into Hankah there, although I
Speaker 3: don't know where hanka might have even came from Babylon
Speaker 3: for all I know, so because the Jews were held
Speaker 3: captive there, and that's where they got their kabbala from.
Speaker 3: So maybe they got Hankah their as well. I don't know.
Speaker 3: The point is you can stop these slides and you
Speaker 3: can read what they say and learn a little bit
Speaker 3: more about Christmas. There's also the Winter couple, the old
Speaker 3: Man Green Man and the old woman Fraujole. Their plants
Speaker 3: are missiletoe winter palms, and you can read about Christmas
Speaker 3: basically being a fertility festival, the preservation of fertility. We
Speaker 3: talked about the hunter Osiris, the green Man, you know,
Speaker 3: he's green agriculture god and Osiris, according to Mark Booth
Speaker 3: and The Secret History of the World, really amazing book
Speaker 3: if you've never heard of it or read it. The
Speaker 3: Secret History of the World. Osiris is derived from a
Speaker 3: word that means semen, so he is the seaman. So
Speaker 3: it is a fertility festival. And of course nothing would
Speaker 3: be complete and without talking about the Shamanic origins. This
Speaker 3: is another thing, kind of like Zeitgeist and kind of
Speaker 3: like the people that talk about the War on Christmas,
Speaker 3: they're both right and wrong. The Shamanic Christmas. This is
Speaker 3: definitely one of those things where it is a very
Speaker 3: for me, fascinating perspective on Christmas, because you're absolutely right
Speaker 3: if you believe that. Yes, a lot of these traditions
Speaker 3: have a relationship to shamanism. They don't come necessarily from
Speaker 3: shamanism per se, but they have a very strong relationship.
Speaker 3: Some of them might we don't know how to. I
Speaker 3: don't think we can trace back the exact origins, but
Speaker 3: certainly some of them do come from shamanism, or at
Speaker 3: least can be correlated very strongly. The shamans that wear
Speaker 3: the red and white this is the flagary I'm gonna
Speaker 3: need a mushroom. They grow under trees like presents. The
Speaker 3: shaman comes down the pull into the smoke lodge like
Speaker 3: sand to delivering gifts. I've never done mushrooms, but I'd
Speaker 3: imagine that if you live around reindeer and you do
Speaker 3: some mushrooms, the deer might fly. You have slides sleds
Speaker 3: that you're sliding around on. So very clearly there is
Speaker 3: a relationship. But if someone just says, well Christmas comes
Speaker 3: from the shamans, well, well, maybe ultimately it does if
Speaker 3: you go back far enough, but most of the modern
Speaker 3: traditions and even some of the more ancient traditions, because
Speaker 3: we're talking about shamanism. Shamanism goes back, like we're talking
Speaker 3: thirty forty fifty plus thousand years, so that's more than ancient.
Speaker 3: We're talking about modern and ancient traditions. It's probably not
Speaker 3: coming directly from shamanism. But then again, you could say
Speaker 3: like well everything goes back to Adam and Eve and
Speaker 3: say well, it's all from Genesis. And so my point is, yes,
Speaker 3: some of it can be certainly without doubt correlated to Christmas.
Speaker 3: And you can see some of the examples there. And
Speaker 3: what do people see when they're when they're tripping on
Speaker 3: certain things ayahuasca, DMT things like that, you see elves.
Speaker 3: I've never done it, but I've heard about the machine
Speaker 3: elves and one of the elves where they were a
Speaker 3: Mithra's hat. So you can I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people probably know. If you're listening to this show, you've
Speaker 3: probably heard of the Christmas elves and the DMT stuff.
Speaker 3: So here is another slide you can pause and read
Speaker 3: about the shaman shamanic Christmas. Of course, Santa Claus, we
Speaker 3: know as being red and white, comes largely, not entirely,
Speaker 3: but largely from Coca Cola, and within a matter of
Speaker 3: about one hundred years Santa went from mister Winter bringing
Speaker 3: the tree inside to coca cola. And I noticed this,
Speaker 3: just putting this slide show together, a presentation I'm giving,
Speaker 3: I noticed that. Well, how would I say this? It's
Speaker 3: something I noticed. I just I realized, Wait, at okay,
Speaker 3: so there used to be real cocaine and coca cola, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: real cocaine. There's two other really important symbols of Christmas
Speaker 3: that you might not even think of, pine cones and
Speaker 3: poppy one. Pine cones are the external representative of what
Speaker 3: the pineal gland and poppy opium. Poppy was used by
Speaker 3: the Greeks in the mystery traditions. So in essence, you've
Speaker 3: got poppy seeds, pine cones, and coke cocaine and all
Speaker 3: of the other plants and things that Santa's smoking in
Speaker 3: this pipe. Traditionally, Christmas is really a holiday to get high.
Speaker 3: I guess, So people that get high on Christmas, I
Speaker 3: guess you're celebrating in the right way. Just a few
Speaker 3: more slides left, So Santa brings children all those things
Speaker 3: we mentioned. It's about abundance for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: If you live near the ocean, abundance comes out of
Speaker 3: the ocean. So there's actually I didn't know this until
Speaker 3: this week either. I read about something called the Seven
Speaker 3: Fishes Feast, the Feast of seven Fishes. It's an Italian
Speaker 3: American celebration, and it features seven different seafood dishes. This
Speaker 3: is an Italian celebration, and the Italians actually have quite
Speaker 3: a bit of base, quite a bit of substantial influence
Speaker 3: in these traditions, because if you have a look at
Speaker 3: the Vatican, the Holy Sea where the fish swim in
Speaker 3: the Holy Sea, the Pope's hat is the dug On
Speaker 3: dagone hat, and you see the Pope's ring as the fissure,
Speaker 3: and you see the fissure of men, the little symbol
Speaker 3: that Christians put on their cars to let people who
Speaker 3: hate Christians know that they can vandalize the car. And
Speaker 3: you see a dagon there at the bottom with the
Speaker 3: magic wand and the fish hat. And then you see
Speaker 3: Saint Nicholas with the fish hat and the rod and
Speaker 3: the white beard like Odin, and the red and white robes,
Speaker 3: and the Holy Sea where the fish swim. You know
Speaker 3: about all that maritime language, with the birth canal and
Speaker 3: the woman's water breaks and your houses underwater and you
Speaker 3: know that kind of stuff. Well, here's the fish symbolism
Speaker 3: Holy See in Rome, and you have the Italian Feast
Speaker 3: of seven Fishes, and you also have as we'll very
Speaker 3: quickly get to here, Chris, because I know we're creating
Speaker 3: low on time or just about at the end of
Speaker 3: the show. There's a Christmas witch called Bayfauna. She's known
Speaker 3: as the Italian Christmas Witch, and which is ride broomsticks right. Well,
Speaker 3: that comes from these switches that were used they put
Speaker 3: together and they were used to sweep out homes for
Speaker 3: the winter, to clean things. Shamans also use them to
Speaker 3: heal people. Saint Nicholas holds that staff. Sometimes Jesus is
Speaker 3: shown with the staff. And here's the Italian Christmas which Befauna,
Speaker 3: known as Epiphany is in the Feast of Epiphany, a
Speaker 3: very important Christian holiday, and she descends down a chimney,
Speaker 3: brings gifts, et cetera. The whole story that we've talked about.
Speaker 3: She's also known as the wild woman, which is a
Speaker 3: theme in classical mythology. The wild women are the ones
Speaker 3: that kill Dionysus, the wine god, in a frenzy of drunkenness.
Speaker 3: There's also this character from Iceland called Grillia, an ice
Speaker 3: Landy Christmas witch, and she oversees a family of thirteen
Speaker 3: known as the thirteen Yule Lots. And she comes with
Speaker 3: a sack on her back like Crampus to take children
Speaker 3: away who don't do what they're supposed to do. And
Speaker 3: then there's Ruprict as I mentioned, he just carries a
Speaker 3: sack and a rod to punish people. He's identified with Odin,
Speaker 3: and he actually carries with him, well some kind of
Speaker 3: you know rod that is usually mad out of hazel wood,
Speaker 3: which is the wood of Thor and that is also
Speaker 3: the that is the Christmas tree, taken from the Christmas tree,
Speaker 3: which is how you make a magic wand you take
Speaker 3: the from a tree. And he visits children in December fifth,
Speaker 3: that's when Crampis comes or Black Pete, which is a
Speaker 3: whole very controversial history. Now Black Pete Is the character
Speaker 3: comes down the chimney gets soot Oliver's face like cinders Cinderella,
Speaker 3: and here's Crampis is associated with rupe Rict and Odin.
Speaker 3: Crampon means claw and some myths hees the son of
Speaker 3: Hell h l not like Hell in the Christian sense.
Speaker 3: But the Norse underworld god is hell Hl probably heal.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to pronounce it exactly. I don't
Speaker 3: speak that language. And he comes on December fifth, called
Speaker 3: crump Us knucked. And here's an interesting thing. Trumpest boxes.
Speaker 3: You put your name in the box if you've been bad,
Speaker 3: and if you live in a part of the world
Speaker 3: where the sun doesn't really come out that much, well,
Speaker 3: your name's supposed to stay in the box until the
Speaker 3: sun comes out the next day without any cloud coverage,
Speaker 3: which is probably not going to happen if you live
Speaker 3: in Portland, Buffalo or any of the Scandinavian countries during
Speaker 3: this time of the year. And so it's very unlikely
Speaker 3: if your name goes in the box, it's coming out
Speaker 3: of the box. And you don't want your name to
Speaker 3: be in the box on December fifth, Chris, because if
Speaker 3: your name's in the box on December fifth, guess what happens.
Speaker 3: Grampis comes, beats you and then puts you in a
Speaker 3: bag and takes you to Hell. And that's not good.
Speaker 3: So kids probably be pretty good because they don't want
Speaker 3: to be dragged by Crampis down into into Hell. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a crampis box right on, and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 3: There's just like a very few number of slies left
Speaker 3: the elf on the shelf. I wouldn't bring it into
Speaker 3: my house, not because psychological things, but because you don't
Speaker 3: want elves in your house. Okay, this isn't Harry Potter
Speaker 3: with Adobe. You don't want elves in the house. There's
Speaker 3: actually a folklore tradition about the elf on the shelf.
Speaker 3: You can see the story here on the screen, but
Speaker 3: that the family who designed it. The folk legend is,
Speaker 3: or the urban legend is that they made a deal
Speaker 3: with the devil and that to get very successful, the
Speaker 3: devil would be able to put his minions in everybody's
Speaker 3: house and he would help them to make money and
Speaker 3: get their product out there, which is the exact same
Speaker 3: urban legend. So it's archetypical in nature. It's the exact
Speaker 3: same urban legend of the Hello Kitty. A woman's daughter
Speaker 3: in Japan has cancer. She goes to all the Japanese doctors.
Speaker 3: They can't help her, so she makes a deal with
Speaker 3: the devil, and the devil says, I'll cure your daughter's
Speaker 3: throat cancer if you help me to spread this doll
Speaker 3: into the hands of little girls. And the doll can't see, hear,
Speaker 3: and can't speak. So there's a child abused trama element
Speaker 3: to it too. You find that in the elf on
Speaker 3: the shelf. So I would bring that little effort into
Speaker 3: my mouth.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yes, last slides, very very simple stuff. Probably the last one.
Speaker 3: This is the last one. I already mentioned it. But
Speaker 3: now that we know everything about Christmas, I think we
Speaker 3: can see the story of Ama Tetusu in Japan coming
Speaker 3: out of the cave, the reflective mirror decorating the Christmas tree.
Speaker 3: And in Japan you'll see these are called shimenawa, these
Speaker 3: straw ropes around trees with sheide little papers hanging off
Speaker 3: of them. That signifies that the God, that the spirit
Speaker 3: is in the tree, and that is the center of
Speaker 3: our Christmas celebrations and traditions. And there for people that
Speaker 3: live in the desert, I didn't forget about you. I
Speaker 3: live in the desert, and we have Bishop's cap hat
Speaker 3: of Saint Nicholas cactus, peyote cactus which if you take
Speaker 3: some of that you might be seeing elves, and then
Speaker 3: the decorated soirl cactus, and also the Christmas cactus which
Speaker 3: is a plant, really nice little succulent plant, and that
Speaker 3: is the Holly Holy Days. Chris, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great, Ryan, a fantastic presentation. And it
Speaker 1: seems like all of these cultures and belief systems are
Speaker 1: like little puzzle pieces that if we can put together
Speaker 1: we get a little bit bigger picture of what could
Speaker 1: possibly be the meaning behind a lot of these things.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. As was fantastic. Before we
Speaker 1: close out, let the audience know, I know you're going
Speaker 1: to be given this as a presentation. If there's anyone
Speaker 1: available as it going to be an in person presentation
Speaker 1: or online.
Speaker 3: It will be well. I would like to be able
Speaker 3: to do video presentations. I have a bunch of power
Speaker 3: points like this set up for different subjects. I have
Speaker 3: a uthology one, I have a symbolism one of the
Speaker 3: corporate symbolism. I have a bunch of them. So I'm
Speaker 3: going to try to get that set up. But yes,
Speaker 3: it's in person. Unlike that anybody listening would be able
Speaker 3: to come. It's in Tucson December twenty first, six to
Speaker 3: eight pm, Nexus Occult Books. But if you'd like to
Speaker 3: meet me or if you'd like to come to the
Speaker 3: talk and just listen, or if you'd like to stab
Speaker 3: me because you hate me. I will be at Nexus
Speaker 3: Occult Books on December twenty first. That's in Tucson Nexus
Speaker 3: Ocult Books. But otherwise I'll be talking about this stuff
Speaker 3: all week on my show Tstradio dot info or find
Speaker 3: the show anywhere else you listen to radio shows podcasts,
Speaker 3: but all the links are on that website, social media, email,
Speaker 3: TST radio at ProtonMail dot com, estradio dot info.
Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome, Ryan, Thank you so much, great presentation.
Speaker 1: Definitely going to have you back on in the future.
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