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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. Now here is your host? DJ Leaves? All right,

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do we have a weekend coming up? We are ready

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to go with a Friday night Dezone pay per view

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from where from Times Square. By the way, We're in

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Saudi Arabia with Canelo Alvarez on Saturday night with another

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de Zone pay per view, and then Top Rank as

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an ESPN show, Oh with the Monster Naoya in a

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Way on Sunday night. Three nights of fights this weekend.

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We are ready to cram it all in. Here to

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a Big Fight weekend preview. I am the somewhat competent host.

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TJ Reeves, Hello, Dan Rayphiel, our insider fight preaks. Your

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night is his substack, his newsletter. You got to be

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all over that. We are ready to go in the

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preview mode. Here, lots and lots and lots to go over.

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I normally say, how are you? Let me put a

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phrase it this way? Are you rested? Are you ready

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to be caffeinated? Extra snacks, extra screens, extra everything, because

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we've got a ton a ton happening Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I don't need extra screens. Because they're all

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on separately, they don't conflict with each other, which is

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actually a good thing and not my first rodeo. I'm

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looking forward to seeing the fights, and it'd be nice

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to spread them out.

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Speaker 1: However, as we have discussed before, you're tough to find

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a weekend like this first weekend in May circa twenty

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twenty five where you have three massive nights in a

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row Friday, Saturday, Sunday. This is rare now. Sometimes you

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might have had like a Friday night card hypothetically, and

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then a couple of Saturday cards in different places. But

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to have three nights in a row.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember a time in my experience of covering

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boxing that there's been this level of a show three

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consecutive days. That's just not the way it is. But

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I'm down with it.

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Speaker 1: Like it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to see this every week because it

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does make it implicated. For if you're a fan, you

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know it's it's not a bad thing, I guess, but

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you also like to have the fights breathe a little bit.

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As a journalist and somebody that's reporting about it makes

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it complicated because you've got a lot of stuff you

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need to write about or want to write about, and

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you just sometimes can't get to everything. And you know,

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I feel like all these guys in a way Canelo

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the fighters on the Friday Cart, you know, with a

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lot of good names on there. They all deserve like

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their time in the sun, and they're all kind of

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jumping all over each other. So from that standpoint, is

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not so great now because this is not boxing. Is

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not football, where you can have a million NFL games

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or you know, big time college games on a given weekend.

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you kind of got to pay attention to everything, and

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in football it's a lot of it's mostly regional, even

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though there may be a big national matchup. In boxing,

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while there are certainly guys who are favorites in their

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home areas, it's still that the hardcore fans. It appeals

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Vegas or a Mexican and Saudi Arabia, or you know

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the younger guys that are fighting in Times Square. So

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you know, I can go either way on it, and

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once in a while it's kind of cool, you know.

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Speaker 1: And again this kind of sells itself on what we're

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about to do with all of the previews. Now we

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Speaker 2: I thought those guys, those guys got a better chance

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for that all right, something else that you and I

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savages on Friday night, in the aftermath of this fatal

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Fury Times Square card, you and I will come to

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life live on the YouTube page. See the moving video

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and picture see the fight analysis. For about fifteen minutes

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or so, give or take how long Dan talks, I'm

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just having fun with you. Fifteen minutes e each ish

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each you know, somewhere around five minutes each fifteen minutes

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or so total.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to nail ourselves. Now, we're gonna recap that.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just saying, depending on what all has happened.

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It's not gonna be a prolonged hour preview, no no, no,

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but we're gonna get it done on Friday night on

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on Saturday. On Sunday, Dan will be promoting it, We'll

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be promoting it socially through the Big Fight Weekend channels,

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et cetera. So that is coming Friday night as well,

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when the Friday night card's over. We're not doing it

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after the Canelo Saudi pay per view, and we're not

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doing it live on the YouTube page after the Sunday

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night Top Rank show. But I thought that, you know,

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so subscribe, be there, come find us for that. All right,

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With all of that out of the way, you and

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I are thoroughly screwed up on what day it is,

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what time it is, because we've already done the bet

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US Boxing show, and we've already done a full fledged

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long form preview of all these fights. But let's get

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back into it and start with Friday, where we have

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the co main events involving Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney,

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who are who are deemed and slotted to be fighting

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each other should they both be victorious. And we have

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Tea Fimo Lopez as well, defending his WBO one and

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Speaker 2: A title which is more important than that, well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the lineal title and the WBO title that he

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currently has, all right, so let's get into it. The

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fighters have all made weight on Thursday. We know that

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this is the first time ever for some kind of

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spectacle like this in Times Square, all right, So Dan,

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let's get into it again. It's it's curious to me

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that it's it's a limited invite situation to VIPs and

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that I'm curious how the public in and around in

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or see it for Friday night.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I mean, unrelated to the actual

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bouts I was told, and maybe they'll work this out

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in the next you know, period of time before the

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show starts, that they originally had placed a chain link fence.

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on his social media and Ring magazine because of their spot.

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You know, it's their card. At how it looks. The

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setup looks really cool, it looks very interesting, and they

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the folks who were invited in, the officials and the

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fighters and everything inside that area. But if you were

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on the street or you're walking around and you're a

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boxing fan, you could stand there and watch it. And

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then they also had bought the time on all those

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number of jumbotrons and the big video screens that are

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all over the place in Times Square, high above the

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storefronts and the buildings. So what happened again? And maybe

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they'll fix this, But I was told that the city

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fence so people can't look through it, and made them

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and not going to allow them to show the fight

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on the video board because of some ordinance that is

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related to traffic and driving, so they may not be

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Speaker 1: And driving would be paramount to not be distracted with

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Speaker 2: So you may so the folks that are there on

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Speaker 1: Now.

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of this, but it would seem to me that the

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working solution might be that in a certain area a

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with the video right in that. I'm just saying this.

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and stuff everywhere. So I can totally get where you

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I would have thought they might have worked that out

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ahead of time when this was all in the planning stages.

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people gathered in, you know, the whole purpose of sort

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of having it there to create kind of a of

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a of a musty situation. But whatever, hiks for happening,

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Speaker 1: So Ryan Garcia, Rolely Romero, Devin Haney, Jose Ramirez again,

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give me your give me your thought. You and I,

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I mean, I'm just gonna go ahead and put this out.

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You and I both believe this is a Ryan Garcia

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knockout of Roly Romero. Tell them more? Why here on

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Speaker 2: Pot Well, look, first of all, in terms of the

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overall situation with Ryan and Devin, they both thought each

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other in that very controversial situation that took place last

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April where Ryan Garcia scored three knockdowns, ended up winning

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a majority decision, very close fight other than the knockdowns,

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and then after the end. First of all, Ryan was overweight,

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so he couldn't win the WBC Junior welterweight title that

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Devin Haney had at that time. He has since relinquished

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that title. And then Ryan of course got suspended because

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he attested positive for peds and was suspended a year.

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perfectly able if he wanted to get back in the ring,

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also hasn't thoughts incens So both of them are coming

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off of, you know, the just to slightly over a

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year long layoffs since that fight. And of course, as

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you mentioned, if they win these matches against Romero and

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Jose Ramirez, their scheduled to fight each other in Saudi

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Arabia at the end of this year, and so there's

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a lot on the line here.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: One thing about Ryan Garcia going into this Romero fight.

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other than the fact that while Romero was a you know,

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you know, an interesting character outside the ring, you know,

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skill wise and in terms of his boxing, it's it's

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pretty rudimentary in my opinion, It's not all that nuanced

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at all. He's shown very dense in that chin. Recently,

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he's been knocked out in two of his last four fights,

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one at lightweight when at junior welterweight. He's going in

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the ring with one of the best left hook punchers

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in boxing and Ryan Garcia electrifying quick handspeed, So he

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was going to be the favorite anyway. Now that Ryan appears,

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and you know, I don't I don't follow him around

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in his life, but based on everything I've heard and

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read and seen and talked to people involved with the event,

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from a mental standpoint and from his physical conditioning, he's

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in much better shape mentally and physically than he was

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when it was a complete train wreck going into the

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Hainy fight, when he was drinking and partying and missing

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weight and you know, ended up afterwards. You remember, he

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got arrested for vandalism, which ultimately right. He went on

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these crazy Dya tribes on social media, you know, spouting

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off all kinds of hate language against different religions and

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ethnicities and colors and this and that. You know, not

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a good situation. But it seems like he's got his

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shit together right now, which is good. So if he's

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on point in physical and mental roller Romero is getting

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knocked out. In my opinion, it's not going to be

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that hard. So he'll put himself into that fight now. Haney.

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He goes thearing Jose Ramirez, who has been an excellent

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fighter for a long time. A former unified champion had

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won for him and Haney. Both are moving up to welterweight,

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So I don't know why they did this because one

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forty seven is a wal the right limit, but both

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of them are moving up, so for whatever the reasons were,

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it doesn't benefit anybody. They made this a contract weight

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of one hundred and forty four pounds, as I guess

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they ease into this weight class. But Jose Ramirez, you

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know who's been who's a credit in terms of the

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way he has fought, his willingness to fight good guys

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for the most part, and just the way he carries

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himself as a person is a very good you know,

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in the good guy basically. But he's seemed better days

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in my opinion. I mean, he looked terrible against Barboza

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in the last fight in the fall when he lost

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in uh Saudi Arabia, and even when he had won

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a few fights in a row since the Josh Taylor loss,

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he didn't really shine. He won, but he wasn't fighting

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like the top top guys. Good good opponents, but not

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nothing that would blow your doors off. So Hani if

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he's mentally together, because he did, they go to some troubles.

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peds and everything was going on with the Garcia aftermath.

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so again, when they made this card, they're not trying

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to get Garcia and Hainey beat, but they also wanted

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to make a show where you had reasonable opposition, you know,

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quality guys to compete, where at the end of the

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day the two favorites would win and they can move

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on to the rematch. So Romero and Joser Ameras are

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obviously a good, solid professionals, but both of them have

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perhaps some chinks in that armor, so to speak, compared

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to the main to the to the name guys or

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the bigger name guys, I should say. So from that standpoint, yeah,

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Garcia and Hainey are obviously the favorites and are supposed

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to win, but it is boxing. You never know. Josier

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Americs can summon another big time fight if Roly Romero

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can find you know, and land a big punch on

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on Ryan Garcia. One thing that really does have, which

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is pretty much the only thing he has besides a

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good heart, is he does have a good punch if

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he lands. So that those are the main events, but

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it'll be interesting because of the atmosphere or lack there of,

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because again, if it's in Times Square but you don't

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have a big crowd and then you're not gonna have

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it's gonna be maybe a little quiet. It won't be

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quite like being in the bubble, right, but it also

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won't be like if they were in Madison Square Gardens. Yeah,

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if they had put this fight in the garden, they

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would have sold fifteen thousand tickets for this kind of show,

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I would think, and it would have been people going

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absolutely crazy for these fights, you know, for Garcia and

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all the hooplow that these guys bring, te Femo and

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all the matchups. So though that's that fight, that's sort

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of the entry. Can they get to each other and

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with Tafimo Lopez, as we mentioned on a number of occasions,

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if you're gonna pick an upset of any of the

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fights on this weekend, this one seems the one that's

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right for the upset. I say that not for any

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disrespect to Lopez, but Barbosa is pretty good. He's undefeated,

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he's really super hungry. He's coming off his two best wins.

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He beat Ramirez clean in Saudi Arabia. He followed that

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up by going on the road and scoring. You know,

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he was an underdog against Ramirez and they beat him clean.

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Then he was the underdog when he went to Manchester,

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England and he bumped off Caall. He won a split

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decision basically in Caterall's backyard, so that tells you the

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real deal there. So that's two upsets in a row.

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He's very confident. He's getting his first title shot after

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begging for one for a long time. And Tifiomo Lopez,

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as we know, sometimes can look phenomenal and other times

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can look, you know, just very pedestrian. Even if he's won,

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he's looked pedestrian. He has not really fought. In my opinion,

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he has not. He's won, but he hasn't looked impressive

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at all since he's been at one forty other than

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the Josh Tailer Fred he's got one stoppage in that

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weight class against Camp. In the first fight. He looked

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terrible against Jermaine Artiz. I thought he lost that fight.

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He looked, you know, he beat Steve Claggett basically every round,

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but it was not a very top level performance. But

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he's But the thing about Ti Fimo is when the

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big fights are there, he has shown up.

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Speaker 1: I was just coming right there. We said this before.

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If we get the tea of Femo Lopez against Josh Taylor,

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that's trouble for Barboso. But I believe there's enough distraction

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with everything that's going on that Barboza's got a legit shot.

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I picked him. I picked him on the bat Us

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Show to pull the upset.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're picking him to win the fight, I

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don't know if you're doing it because of distraction, because

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this is seeming like the first time in a while

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where there really isn't a lot of distraction on Tifemo.

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He seems real calm and cool, having a good time.

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Not you know, he's kind of playing the playing the

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joker part of this promotion. I mean, he's really been

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the one that's frankly been selling it him and his father.

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But Lopez has a lot at stake also, And I'm

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gonna tell you what we're talking about. How Hane and

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Garcia are headed to the rematch if they win their

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fights on Friday, ti Fimo, if he wins, is going

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to probably be on that undercard against a bigger name opponent.

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If one of the two guys in the main events

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between Garcia and Hani, if either one of them lose,

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there's a very good chance that come the fall fight

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that I just mentioned, that Tifimo ends up being the

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opponent for the guy that could maybe wins if one

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of the other guys loses, So he maybe fights a

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Devin Haney if Garcia loses or vice versa, and even

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if not, this is the first of three fights he

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has with Turkey. They're talking about a Richardson Hitchins unification fight.

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They're talking about the winner of the ultimate Garcia versus

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Hainary match if they get to it. They're talking about

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maybe in the fall the Geron boots and his fight,

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him moving up to the welterweight division. So he's got

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a lot at steak and Barbosa has been beating his

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chest by week saying you know what, basically, fuck him,

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I'm coming to ruin all those plans. So that makes

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that to me, that's why that fight's probably the most

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interesting in terms of the storyline, not necessarily the action,

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but you know, there's a reason to watch the show,

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even if the odds on the two other fights are

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kind of wide. The name recognition, the name value, what's

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at stake for all three guys and the B side

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so to speak, there's so much at stake for them also,

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and the location. It does make it an interesting card,

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and I was happy that because they put two fights

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on pay per view back to back nights with this

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card in times square, plus the Canelo card on Saturday

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at least, which is highly unusual. I mean, in the

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annals of pay per view, the same company has never

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done back to back nights of pay per view to

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my remembrance whatsoever. But at least, if they're gonna do that,

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at least the Zone did a promotion that makes sense

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where you know, you can buy either one of it

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if you want, but you also get a nice discount

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if you buy both. So that's I guess a silver lining.

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Speaker 1: All right. So that is Friday night, and then we

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move on to Saturday night, where Canelo Alvarez will fight

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for the first time outside of North America, fighting in

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Saudi Arabia. You did speak to him. We put it

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up on the pod feed a couple of different times,

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including as a standalone podcast earlier this week the channel,

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and it's on the YouTube channel as well. Good promotion

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that that is Saturday night. Now he's back in the ring.

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He's fighting William Skull. You know my feeling on this,

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I've said over and over again. You know, I think

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I speak for a lot of people that are just

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rolling their eyes at this. I understand. I mean, this

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is a this is a money thing for Canelo, and

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it's an opportunity to get back in the ring and

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essentially tune up for the Terrence Crawford fight that's coming up.

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So that headlines and the interesting thing. We'll get to

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the undercard in a few moments. This is in the

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middle of the night with the undercard and the main

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of the early Sunday morning Saudi Arabia time back to

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late night in the Eastern and Central time zone at

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least in the United States and for Mexico in the

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Central and Mountain time zone where most of the country is,

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it'll be primetime. But this is early morning, and I'm fascinated,

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you know, because that's obviously different on the body clocks

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for Canelo and for Skull to be fighting Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: Well that was the reason why Canelo went to Saudi

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Arabia three weeks before the fight. They try to acclimate

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to all those elements, whether it's the food, the weather,

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and the timing of when you're going to fight. So

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they did the right thing. They didn't wait till fight

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week to get there. They went three weeks ago, So

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good for them, and they'll get used to the situation. Look,

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you say it's strictly a money thing, and it is.

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Obviously that's a huge part of it, and to get

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ready for the Crawford fight, which is even bigger money

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back here in America. Now, you and I can can

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laugh at it as casual fans can can mock it,

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but there's something to be said because Canelo and for

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whatever reason, Turkey want him to be reunified as the

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undisputed champion because it will make the Crawford fight a

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bigger deal promotionally, because it will give Crawford the opportunity

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to become a three division four belt champion, which has

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never happened. And Canelo, as he spoke about on the podcast,

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interview that I did with him. He likes the idea

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of being the only fighter so far in the four

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belt era to be a two time undisputed champion in

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the same weight class. So yeah, the belt got taken

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away from him, which was ridiculous, but I get it,

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and now he's got a chance to basically get it back.

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He's like, Okay, William Skull, you've been renting my belt

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for the last few months. I'm going to come get

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it back from you. And it is what it is.

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I mean, it is the lowest profile Canelo fight that

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I can think of since he's been a star level

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fighter for a lot of different reasons, not the least

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of which is because it's in Saudi Arabia and the

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opponent is completely unknown. So if you take, for example,

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like when he fought John Ryder, it wasn't like that

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big of a deal, but at least it was in

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North America, so his fans here could see it or

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at least hear about it anyway, and he was fighting

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at home in Guadalajara, so it was like a big

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deal as a homecoming fight, so it still was an event.

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This is not quite the same He's fighting in a

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six to seven thousand seed arena. Canelo has not fought

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in an arena that's small and literally probably I don't know,

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you gotta probably go back in fifteen years. I'd say ten, twelve,

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fifteen years, something like that. But it's an ends to

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a meet, you know, or I should say it means

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to an end, which is take care of business. You're

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gonna make a pile of money. He's gonna, theoretically, if

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he wins get back the IBF belt, he'll go into

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the mega fight with Crawford in the fall. It'll be

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for all the belts once again, and then and then

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he's off to the two more fights he has in

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twenty twenty six. If he beats Crawford. There's been already

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conversation about maybe fighting Chris Eubank Junior, who would go

475
00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:34,640
up to Super mid away coming off that you know,

476
00:21:34,839 --> 00:21:38,039
amazing fight he had last week with Connor Ben. So

477
00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:39,519
there's still lots of things for him to do. But

478
00:21:39,559 --> 00:21:42,440
in terms of this main event, look, not every single

479
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,599
fight's gonna be the all star fight, you know. I

480
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,799
know people didn't necessarily like Monkey or Berlanga, but at

481
00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:49,480
least they had name recognition at least they had entertaining styles.

482
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,200
At least they had some accomplishment, had been in front

483
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,680
of a lot of fans over the over the last

484
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,160
few years. Skull comes as obscure as it gets. As

485
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,039
I've mentioned, when Canelo fought back in May of last year,

486
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,839
he was so buried on that undercard in an eight rounder.

487
00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:06,720
It wasn't even part of the streaming. And somebody like

488
00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:09,880
myself that prides himself on getting to the arena early

489
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,680
to see all the fights.

490
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Speaker 1: It was so great.

491
00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:13,599
Speaker 2: I even missed that particular bout because of some other

492
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,640
stuff that was going on that day. So you know,

493
00:22:16,079 --> 00:22:17,480
it is what it is, nobody. You don't have to

494
00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:19,000
buy it, you know, but it is one of the

495
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,880
biggest stars in boxing, and you know, take it for

496
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:22,759
what it's worth. Yep.

497
00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:26,839
Speaker 1: So he is headlining, and then the three fights below

498
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,039
that is a cruiserweight world title defense for Badu Jack

499
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:35,200
He's back, Bruno sirase Haimi Mungia is an intriguing rematch

500
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,440
from Mongia after the one punch knockout loss for him.

501
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,880
And then also the heavyweights Faa Jagba and Martin Bucolier

502
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,400
fighting and will now go over all three of those briefly.

503
00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:50,319
First of all, with Jack back defending his Cruiserweight Championship

504
00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:52,279
in the co feature. Go ahead, yeah, I.

505
00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:54,039
Speaker 2: Mean this is like a pretty decent fight if you're

506
00:22:54,079 --> 00:22:56,079
into if you if you're familiar with these two guys.

507
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,119
I mean, Jack had won that title and then was

508
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,640
going to try to win the Bridgerway title. Whatever reason,

509
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,119
the fight never materialized and he went up and he

510
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,400
had a long layoff, and in the meantime, uh Noah

511
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:13,000
McCallion won that belt eventually, and but they basically they switched.

512
00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:16,119
It was really weird the way that the WBC actually

513
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,319
did the right thing, but it was kind of happenstance

514
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,160
that it was sort of luck that Jack decided to return.

515
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,079
They took him out of the in recess and put

516
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him back in the full title, while mccallian went from

517
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the full title into the in recess position because he

518
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,400
was engaged in a lawsuit with Don King and injured

519
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,160
and unavailable. And there's a whole big thing. Now it's

520
00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:36,680
Jack as the champion, which you know, he never lost.

521
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:40,920
Mccallian is out of recess quote unquote and is fighting him,

522
00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:43,400
and it's you know, they're the two top guys in

523
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,759
the WBC. It's actually on paper, if you asked me

524
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,400
just from the action perspective, it actually lines up like

525
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,559
a pretty decent fight. They're coming off layoffs. But but

526
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,119
McCallan has settled his differences with his promoter, and and

527
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,359
Jack has always been a guy that is always given

528
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,720
a great effort he's been in the ring. He's kind

529
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,359
of he's becoming underrated. I'd like to see him have

530
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,720
been a little more busy, but he's always been in

531
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:08,720
good fights over the years. He's won some some rough ones.

532
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,400
I mean, I'll tell you that the fight he had

533
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:13,720
was a super middleweight unification that I was at several

534
00:24:13,799 --> 00:24:16,119
years ago against James degall As a spectacular fight was

535
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,880
a Fight of the Year contender. Turned out to be

536
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,480
a draw. So he's back. You mentioned about Sarasse and Mongia.

537
00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:25,200
As you mentioned Humungus. It was picked by everybody as

538
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,599
the upset of the year for twenty twenty four. In December,

539
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,799
he Mongia was going home to Tijuana squeezed in a

540
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,759
fourth fight last year. As we always say, let's hear

541
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:34,640
it for activity. As they were trying to set up

542
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,799
a big twenty twenty five and in an outdoor stadium

543
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,960
in his hometown against a guy that was undefeated but

544
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:42,839
had like what was he twenty five and oer or

545
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,400
something like that, or twenty six now with five knockouts

546
00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:49,960
or something like that. Yeah, crazy had fought absolutely shit opponents,

547
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,880
and I mean terrible. Yeah, just the dregs of you

548
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,440
could find.

549
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: If you were documenting an out of nowhere opponent scoring

550
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:03,039
a upset with one punch, you'd be hard pressed to

551
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,880
find another more glaring example of it than what happened

552
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:06,799
in this fight.

553
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,839
Speaker 2: I mean there you we could find a few of

554
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,640
similar level, but this was very shocking, particularly because he

555
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,759
was at home. And keep in mind he had dominated

556
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,880
and won every single second of that fight, including scoring

557
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,839
a second round knockdown against RaSE. And then uh, mister Mangia,

558
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,799
who wouldn't know how to spell defense if you spot

559
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,240
him the D E F E N s uh just

560
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,680
dropped his hands and let the man.

561
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: I prefer to do it another way whenever I'm making

562
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,240
the point, there's no D in Mangia, and that's obvious.

563
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,119
There is no DA and he doesn't have any D.

564
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,079
Speaker 2: He got absolutely just schlecked with this big right hand

565
00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,480
and down he went and he was knocked out, and

566
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:50,279
so now he had the right to a rematch and

567
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:52,240
they've worked it out, and so they're doing this rematch,

568
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:54,640
and you know, everything's on the line for him because

569
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,279
you cannot be losing to this dude two times in

570
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:56,559
a row.

571
00:25:56,599 --> 00:26:02,799
Speaker 1: Nope. I mean, you know, this is career threatening stuff.

572
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,079
If he doesn't not to say that he's never going

573
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,000
to fight again, but if he loses to this guy again,

574
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,680
monkey is somehow, some way huge problem.

575
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: Now, the good thing for Mongia is that he goes

576
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,039
into this fight where he is now working with Eddie

577
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:18,319
Renoso as his trainer. They've been together now since that

578
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:20,759
last fight, so he's had a chance to work with him.

579
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:23,000
He's been in the gym and part of that Canelo team.

580
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,920
They Canelo told me that they didn't they weren't sparring together,

581
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,519
but they were working together, you know, training together, So

582
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,400
that that can only rub off well on somebody in

583
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:34,759
that environment. Because no matter what you think about Canelo, Uh,

584
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,960
the man works hard. I mean, there's a reason that

585
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,799
he's still at the top after all these years because

586
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,799
he hasn't you know, he hasn't fallen, He's not susceptible

587
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,480
to that. Marvin Hagler a great quote from many years

588
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,759
ago about you know, it's hard to get up and

589
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:48,440
run when you're sleeping in silk pajamas. Canelo does sleep

590
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,920
in silk pajamas and sometimes he wears them the press conferences.

591
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:53,559
But he's still out there doing his roadwork and exactly

592
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,079
take a name.

593
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: So so's that makes the difference from Mongia. We'll see, yeah.

594
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:59,799
Speaker 2: And then the heavyweight fight at Jagua and Bacoli. This

595
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,400
was supposed to be actually, originally it was going to

596
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,440
be on this Times Square card. It was supposed to

597
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,960
be a twelve round IBF heavyweight elimination fight. But when

598
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,759
Baccoley took the fight against Joseph Parker on like a

599
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,480
two days notice and went to Saudi Arabia and got

600
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:15,799
knocked out in the second round for obvious reasons, the

601
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,599
IBF was not going to then sanction the fight as

602
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,039
an eliminator when the dude just got knocked out and uh,

603
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:22,920
that was no can do. So they still are going

604
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,440
to do the match, it just doesn't have the stakes

605
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,599
and being an eliminator fight, but it's still a nice

606
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,559
matchup a Jagua. You know, decided to stay in this.

607
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,079
He could have pulled out and gone the IBF RAP.

608
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200
But I'm sure he's being paid very well to stay

609
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,920
in this fight. And at the end of the day,

610
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,839
it's about making money in this sport. And if he wins,

611
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,240
it's it's not gonna it's not going to disable him

612
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,759
from getting a bigger fights. So as a good heavyweight tussle,

613
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:47,079
we'll see what Bocoli's got after that terrible uh knockout.

614
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,880
I mean, obviously, I'm sure he'll be in better shape

615
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,960
for this fight. He didn't have a lot of time

616
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,599
trained for the last one. A jog was you know,

617
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,400
cut from Granted, he's always in great shape and both

618
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,000
guys can crack.

619
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,519
Speaker 1: It's the heavyweights, and it's the heavyweights. We're always intrigued.

620
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: And we'll see who can take make the best shot.

621
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,880
So look, the other fight card in New York has

622
00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:09,119
a better group of name fighters, let's say, but not

623
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,799
necessarily in terms of the odds other than the t

624
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,279
Femal fight. Not the most competitive at least in terms

625
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,160
of the wagering. This card, while the main event is

626
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,480
like you know, a wildly divergent odds on Canelo as

627
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:23,599
the winner. He's like a forty to one favorite. The

628
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,319
other fights, though for different reasons, are all intriguing. A

629
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,400
Jagua Bacoli is you know, should be a close fight,

630
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,079
odds wise, Sarasei Manghia, whatever the odds are, are still

631
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:34,039
fascinating because of the rematch aspect of what happened. But dude,

632
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:36,880
Jack McCallan may not be the highest profile world title fight,

633
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,359
but I actually think that will be a good fight

634
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,000
when they get into the ring and do their business,

635
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,920
and then Canelo is Canelo, So you know, this is actually,

636
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,079
in my mind, is a pretty good card, even though

637
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:46,519
I know there's not a love for the main event.

638
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,079
Speaker 1: All right, and again that is Saturday night in Saudi

639
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,680
Arabia on his own pay per view. We move forward

640
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,599
to Sunday night in the preview mode, and all we

641
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,359
get the third of three big nights, and that's the

642
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,640
Monster Naolia in a way, defending the under disputed one

643
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:05,680
and twenty two pound titles. Again someone named Ramon Cardenius.

644
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,680
We'd love to tell you that's a household name, not

645
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,839
really Cardenius out of San Antonio, Texas. Is I mean,

646
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,640
he's a fighter that has not fought a lot of

647
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,000
reputable names that you would even know. This is set

648
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,079
up obviously for the monster to have a big night.

649
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,920
You never know in boxing. But here we go with

650
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,400
the latest appearance. Go over this again, Dan, I know

651
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,200
we did talk about it on the US Show back

652
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,119
on Wednesday. This is the latest appearance that he's been

653
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,640
in the United States and this has got a chance

654
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,440
to have a pretty good atmosphere in the T Mobile

655
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,920
Arena here for him on Sunday night.

656
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,599
Speaker 2: Well, it's his FOURTS fight in America. Before he became

657
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,920
a superstar, he fought one fight out at HBO Undercart

658
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,079
in California several years ago, a fight I actually was

659
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:45,920
at the one time I had the privilege to watch

660
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000
No You in a way from ringside. And then he

661
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,839
had two other fights in world title doubts that took

662
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,920
place in Las Vegas. One was in the actual bubble

663
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200
when there was no fans allowed, and then he came

664
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,799
back and I think the second fight when he did

665
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,519
that fight, I want to if I remember correctly, there

666
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,039
was was in a smaller revenue, but there was just

667
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,119
a limited crowd allow. This is like when COVID was

668
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,000
starting to ease a little bit, but they were able

669
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:06,839
to have maybe like a thousand fans there or something

670
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200
like that. So now we come back as a as

671
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160
a as a superstar, at least in Japan. And you know,

672
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:15,000
most people consider him at worst number three in the

673
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,079
world pound for pound. Some people argue one or two

674
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,839
point is he's in that elite level and he's done,

675
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,200
and he's now headlining in an arena like t Mobile,

676
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,799
headlining on ESPN for the first time. You know, it

677
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,599
is unusual. It's a Sunday night. His opponent's not well known,

678
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:30,960
as you mentioned with Cardenas. I think if you if

679
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,559
you take a look at the seat maps and listen

680
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,279
to some of the folks that are more knowledge about

681
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,720
the ticket situation than I am. Different brokers that I've

682
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,960
talked to, tickets are struggling. They've they've lowered the prices

683
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,640
dramatically because it's it's a look on the bet us.

684
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,160
He was sixty to one noight in a way to

685
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,319
win the fight. I mean, you know, there's something to

686
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,559
be said for competition. You know, no no knock on Cardenas,

687
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,039
but he doesn't have anybody of repue on his record whatsoever.

688
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,839
He's never fought a name guy. Ever, he's just not known.

689
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,240
It doesn't mean he's no good, but he's got a

690
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,359
great record twenty six and one. He's not been stopped

691
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:02,759
in that one lossing. You got to go all the

692
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,319
way back to you know, twenty seventeen and when he

693
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,640
was still you know, somewhat earlier in his career before

694
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,000
he suffered a loss, but again not to a big

695
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,279
name whatsoever. He lost to a guy that was fourteen

696
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,680
and nine and one draw, for what that's worth, in

697
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,079
a fight they took place in Mexico. So look, as

698
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,000
you mentioned, this is in a way showcase, he's supposed

699
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
to win big. As it turns out, it was just

700
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,680
today as we're taping this on Thursday, that the MJ

701
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,799
Acmadalia of people signed the provision of services agreement with

702
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,279
top rank and everybody involved with that fight to make

703
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,920
official that if in a way is the winner and

704
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,440
the injuries, he's under contract to do the fight within

705
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,519
a way that will take place in mid September in Japan.

706
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,359
So in a way against MJ. MJ is the best

707
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,599
point at one hundred and twenty two pounds that in

708
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,720
a way has yet to fight. That's a worthy kind

709
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,880
of fight. He is a mandatory meant bigger, Yeah, a

710
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,880
lot bigger than than Cardenas. So you know, I think

711
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,000
most people expect in a way to just show up

712
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,839
and power punch his way to a victory. However, whether

713
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,119
it's early, late, whenever, but the Doe domination and we'll see.

714
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,680
I mean, I'll put it to you like this, whether

715
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:10,000
he wins by knockout decision, it doesn't, it doesn't have

716
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,160
an impact in terms of like his standing. You know,

717
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,359
if he loses, obviously it's a dramatic disaster, but it

718
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,680
will be fun. Look, I mean, after after a big

719
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,240
weekend of watching the New York card and then you know,

720
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,799
whatever is gonna happen in Saudi Arabia to then also

721
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,039
kick back on a Sunday night following the baseball game,

722
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,680
which coincidentally's with Otani. They got the two Japanese superstars

723
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,559
back to back broadcast on ESPN. One baseball game, one

724
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:38,200
boxing event. Is sort of intriguing, and uh, look, I'm

725
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,559
in I've been following it away since day one pretty much,

726
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:41,839
so I'm grill to see him on TV.

727
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 1: And here's and here's the thing. He's in his prime

728
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:48,160
ten straight championship defenses by knockout, and only two of

729
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,200
those fights have seen the tenth round, So more than

730
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,000
likely you're gonna see explosive Naoya in a way before

731
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,759
the tenth round, and maybe even before like the fifth

732
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:57,480
or the sixth round.

733
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: And how about the fact that for change, we don't

734
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,640
have to wake up at four o'clock in the morning

735
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,079
to watch.

736
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,279
Speaker 1: Them crewe it's not breakfast with the Japanese boxing, and

737
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,440
on the cod feature fight, we should not sell it short.

738
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:11,519
This is interesting. Rafael Espinoza defends the WBO featherweight title.

739
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:15,880
He's the guy with the two wins over Robes c Ramirez.

740
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,680
He's fighting Edward Vasquez and the co features something real

741
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:20,720
quick on that in the preview mode for Sunday.

742
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: So that's you know, on paper anyway, it seems to

743
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,759
be a more closer fight anyway than it would be

744
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,960
within a way against Cardenas now Vasquez. If you remember

745
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,440
a couple of fights to go. This is back in

746
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,039
like the end of twenty twenty three. He fought over

747
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,880
on the Matchroom card that they do annually in Monte Carlo,

748
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,720
and he challenged Joe Cordina for who at that time

749
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,079
was the IDF title holder at one hundred and thirty pounds,

750
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,079
and he gave him a great fight. It was a

751
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:45,400
majority decision that he lost. It was super close, and

752
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,880
he's won two fights in Erro since then at one

753
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400
hundred and thirty. Now he's dropping down to featherweight to

754
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,359
challenge Espinoza for the title, so we guess he's the

755
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,039
bigger guy wait wise, although Espinosa, as you know, is

756
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:57,880
a very tall, you know, kind of freakishly tall. He's

757
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
like the Sebastian Fandora of the featherweight. He goes six

758
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:03,279
foot one as one hundred and twenty six pounder, so

759
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:06,559
that is absolutely gigantic. And he's got a long reach,

760
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,559
and he's got you know, a tremendous wingspan and long

761
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,199
you know, long torso long everything, and he can get

762
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,000
some good leverage on those punch as of his he's

763
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,360
twenty six and oho with twenty two knockouts, and so

764
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,519
he's the big favorite. But really, what this amounts to, well,

765
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,760
number one, it's single to my weekend, So I guess

766
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,679
top rank figure. We got a Japanese fighter fighting I

767
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,840
guess a Mexican American. But now we got a Mexican

768
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,360
national who's a champion, put him on that co feature

769
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,719
with with this fight with Vazquez, get maybe a little

770
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,079
bit more attention from the Mexican fan base. But really

771
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,840
what this is in essence, and I wrote a little

772
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,639
bit about this in one of my newsletters this week.

773
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,159
This is and and Espinosa acknowledges this, and top rank

774
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,519
would acknowledge this also, this is in essence, This is

775
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,800
like an audition for in a way because in a way,

776
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,679
whatever happens with this fight, whatever happens with mac Mandaliev

777
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,360
and he's still planning also a Saudi Arabi fight in

778
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,840
December that at some point this at the end of

779
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,079
this year or next year, he's moving up to one

780
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:02,360
hundred and twenty six pounds. Hopefully we'll be after he

781
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,960
fights Nakatani. But he Espinoza wants to be standing there

782
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:08,760
yeah and say I'm the champion of the WBO, come

783
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,719
and challenge me. And so I'm as They put him

784
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,079
on this undercard for a reason besides just being the

785
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:16,679
fact that he's a Mexican champion. They want the Japanese

786
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,400
viewers who are going to be watching this fight at

787
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,960
home in Japan to see on this undercard a potential

788
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:26,519
opponent for their hero. Remember it wasn't that long ago

789
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,000
that when Robasi Ramirez had this title that they actually

790
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,119
had him defend the title in Japan on an in

791
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:34,400
a way undercard on once again that was an audition.

792
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,079
Now he ended up losing to Espinosa, so that kind

793
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,599
of went out the window. But now Espinosa has that spot,

794
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:42,079
and so this is as I said, this is the audition.

795
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: And so again a lot of intrigue for that reason,

796
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239
for that fight, and it does have the tie into

797
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,920
Sinco DeMaio. Even if it's May the fourth on Sunday night. Man,

798
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,280
that's a lot in the preview mode. And again we'll

799
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,440
do a full recap off the weekend peeps of all

800
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:00,639
of this. Another mention that will be your way on

801
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,800
Friday night talking about the Friday Night Fatal Theory card

802
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,039
from Times Square. But we're going a full recap of

803
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:09,440
the Canelo pay per view, all of it, including his

804
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:12,880
main event, and this in a way top rank ESPN card.

805
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,960
We should emphasize again it's not a pay per view. Yes,

806
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,480
you have to have ESPN or ESPN Plus to be

807
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,039
able to see it, but it is an ESPN main

808
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,159
event for in a way the two two fights, correct,

809
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,559
not three on the ESPN portion correct or just the one?

810
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: No, No, the ESPN main card is in a way

811
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,519
in esp Nooza, but every single fight on the show

812
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:33,039
is also on.

813
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus earlier in the night. Okay, So check into

814
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,440
all of that, and that leads us next to the news.

815
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,760
There's a lot of it. Hey, Rayphiel, you always got

816
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,400
to keep me straight. I mean, this is half the

817
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,719
job for you. I thought we were getting Tim zu

818
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:51,519
and Keith Thurman, but a funny thing happened on the

819
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:55,679
way to Zoo Thurman because now apparently it's going to

820
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,480
be a rematch with Sebastian Fundura. What's going on here

821
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:01,840
this week? Including the very late Stephen on Thursday evening? Right,

822
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,360
what's up?

823
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was supposed to be Thurman against Uh

824
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:10,719
Tim Zoo that the fighters were embracing of that. Remember

825
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,239
when Thurman made his return, it was Tim Zuo sitting

826
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,119
ringside doing commentary for the Australian pay per view which

827
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:20,000
we were being seen here in America simulcast and and

828
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,920
uh and he had and Thurman had gone also to

829
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,719
Australian knocked out an Australian fighter, Brock Jarvis. They both

830
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,159
had scored early knockouts. They were talking shit with each

831
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,880
other and PBC said, that's what we're doing. That the

832
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:33,280
you know, everybody was basically that's what we're doing. Okay,

833
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,719
that's cool. I love that. I actually really liked that fight.

834
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,719
Remember they were supposed to fight each other uh in

835
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,039
March of last year before Thurman had the biceps injury

836
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,119
and ended up having to pull out. He got replaced

837
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,880
by Fandora. Fondora ended up beating Tim Zuo with that

838
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:50,119
tremendously blood soaked fight because of the horrible gash that

839
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,440
Tim had on his scalp and also Fandora with the

840
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,800
nose injury, and and he ended up winning a you know,

841
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,039
close decision against him in that fight. Now he was

842
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,960
off for a while, Tim Zuo Fendora fight for basically

843
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,760
a year, came back a few weeks ago and knocked

844
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,320
out Cordel Booker in defense of his title. Meantime, Tim

845
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,679
Zu had fought twice. He had gotten blitzed and draw

846
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:11,760
just drilled by Martazalayev Black in October and lost and

847
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,519
then came back again, and as I mentioned, had that

848
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,320
fight where knocked out Joey Spencer in Australia, thinking it

849
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,320
was going to set up this Keith Thurman fight. As

850
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,159
it turned out, Tim Zuo had a rematch clause that

851
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,239
allowed Fondora to take an interim fight, which was the

852
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,039
Cordel Booker fight. So according to No Limit Boxing and

853
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,760
the PBC, people who worked with Tim also said that

854
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,599
Tim exercised their right to the rematch, so that mean

855
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:34,920
Fondora had to fight him. He had been ordered to

856
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,480
defend the WBO mandatory. He's re member, he's the unified

857
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,239
champ of the WBO and the WBC. He had been

858
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,480
ordered to fight the WBO mandatory. Xanders ayas Zius jumped

859
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,360
in the ring after the Booker fight. They posed for

860
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,280
pictures together. They both said they want to fight top rank,

861
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,280
and PBC and Samson Lukowitz, the promoter, were all working

862
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,400
to try to make the fight. They had actually asked

863
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880
the WBO to delay the purse bid by one week

864
00:38:58,119 --> 00:38:59,880
because they were getting close to a deal. So they

865
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,679
said the WBA have said, fine, we'll grant you the uh,

866
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:05,239
We'll grant you that extra time and then move them

867
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,559
out of nowhere. I think they looked at the numbers

868
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,760
and they realized, you know what, it's a bigger fight. Financially,

869
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,239
Tim wanted the rematch. He took the rematch, and so

870
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,400
there goes Zius against Fandora, there goes Zoo against Durman,

871
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:19,000
and it's going to be sometime this summer, probably July.

872
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,760
It will be Tim Zoo in a rematch with Sebastian Frondor.

873
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,199
And as you mentioned, Thursday night, and this is not unexpected,

874
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,159
the WBO anow it'ced through a resolution that they had

875
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:32,320
stripped Sebastian Frondora of the WBO title. So he'll go

876
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,159
into the fight with Zoo only with the WBC title,

877
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,400
and Xander Zias will be fighting for the vacant WBO title.

878
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,639
And as Samson Lukawitz, the promoter for Fondora said to

879
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:44,840
me when I wrote about this, which was which was

880
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,719
likely going to happen, he said to me, look, we

881
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,599
know we're going in a different direction. We respect Fondora,

882
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,360
we think we respect Zius rather, we think he's an

883
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,079
excellent young fighter and maybe someday down the road we'll

884
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:57,920
see each other and we can do a unification fight

885
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,480
or something like that, you know, as we wish him

886
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,239
the best of luck. So but they're going for the

887
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,920
bigger fight, which you can't argue with. I mean, no offense, Desias,

888
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,360
but Sebastian Fandora Timzu rematch is certainly a bigger match

889
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,719
for the public and for the guys than if he

890
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,559
were to fight the fight against Xander Zira.

891
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: And it's a good match, and real quick, what do

892
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,880
we know. Are we certain that it would be in

893
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,719
the United States or is it possible it would be

894
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,880
in Australia. You would have to think with Fondora being

895
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480
the champ, he wants this in Vegas or in the

896
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:25,000
Western United States, you would think.

897
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: I talked to Samson, who is the promoter for Fondora.

898
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,440
I talked to George Rose, who is the promoter from

899
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,039
No Limit who works with Tim Zuo. They said, look,

900
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,320
we don't have any details yet on it other than

901
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,320
it's going to be this summer, probably July or August.

902
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:41,920
I imagine without question it will be in the United

903
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,360
States because pay per views, while they can be successful

904
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,639
in Australia, you can just do a small pay per

905
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,480
view level number in the United States and it's still

906
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,199
going to blow away whatever they do in Australia from

907
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,039
a financial perspective, So it's definitely a bigger fight to

908
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,119
do the fight here. And as you said, you know

909
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,920
Fandora is going to have that say so because he

910
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,320
is the champion. That's right to Zoos. So yeah, I

911
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:05,599
would be willing to say that fight takes place sometime July.

912
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,239
I forget the date. There's a date on the on

913
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,719
the agenda for the that of commission calendar for a

914
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,199
PBC payper view date. H we take it. I'm almost

915
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,400
positive they'll do that fight either the Tea Mobile or

916
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,880
the MGM like they did with many of their pay

917
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,440
per view fights. And that's what we'll see this summer.

918
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,719
And then whatever date they land on, whether it's Duly

919
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,760
or August, you got to figure the tank Davis Lamont

920
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,519
roach fight goes on the other date that they don't

921
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:27,760
take up, either July or August.

922
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,519
Speaker 1: All right, a couple more things real quick. Ticon Fury

923
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:35,199
back in the news, Oh my right, ray Phiel. Nobody

924
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,239
believed he was retired in the first place.

925
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: Hey watch your mouth, don't shoot the fucking messenger.

926
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: But he's on social media with Sugar Hills Steward earlier

927
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,559
this week saying, uh, hey, I'm I'm gonna fight later

928
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:51,119
this year. Wait a minute, stop the presses. We already

929
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,760
knew this. He's gonna fight and he's likely fighting Anthony

930
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Joshua later. This is not a mystery.

931
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: He didn't actually say I'm fighting next later. He didn't

932
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,320
actually say those words. It was like a ten eleven

933
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,880
second video and he's like, hey, look why I ran

934
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,599
to it, Look why I ran into in the gym,

935
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,719
And then you know, they laughed and were goofing off,

936
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,559
and he's like, you know what's coming next. Obviously he's

937
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:11,639
going to come out of retirement. The only fight that

938
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,280
makes sense for him to come out of retirement for

939
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:15,920
would be the Joshua fight. He's you know, that's the

940
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,679
still a big fight financially for everybody, and still the

941
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,440
fight that the Brits want to see. And I have

942
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to believe that after he saw the crazy crowd that

943
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,480
Watt that was that was in attendance for Chris Ubank

944
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:30,079
Junior and Connor Ben how could you not get enthusiastic

945
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,159
about that. I mean, at the end of the day,

946
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,159
these fighters have a limited shelf life to be in

947
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,159
this in this sport, he's got the opportunity still to

948
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,039
have at least one more absolutely humongous event that you

949
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:45,239
will make another gargantuan pile of money and you'll have

950
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,559
that part of you know, your memories forever. And why

951
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:50,320
wouldn't you want to do it one more time? It's

952
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,000
something he's been doing his whole life. I would never

953
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,440
say if you if you're not if you're unhealthy or

954
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,559
you know you're injured, I mean, then you know what

955
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,039
be done. But I don't think in this particular situation

956
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,119
for Joshua and Fury to both take one more big

957
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,719
megafight to give the fans what they've wanted, and they

958
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,239
deserve it for themselves to have this fight against each other.

959
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,719
The fact that they could even think about going through

960
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,360
their careers and not facing the one guy that they

961
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,519
have to fight even more than Joshua and Wilder because

962
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,880
they're their own, they're their countrymen, they've both been top champions.

963
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,599
You gotta do this everybody wants.

964
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, for the history of British boxing,

965
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,360
you get to say that I'm the guy that got

966
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
the win over the other guy when everybody's been wondering

967
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,840
for five years who would win this matchup. Really, since

968
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,400
Fury knocked off Deontay Wilder the second fight that they had,

969
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,239
they were trying to make this fight, so we're going

970
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,000
on five years of trying to make this fight.

971
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: So that's also It also doesn't surprise me by the

972
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,800
way that the day that Tyson Fury posted that video

973
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,360
just happened to be the ability to sort of jump

974
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,280
all over the announcement of Usik and his rematch with

975
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,440
Dubois for the undisputed title because Tyson Fury, he loves

976
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:03,800
the spotlight, and he basically as soon as that fight

977
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,119
was announced and then they were doing the the theory

978
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,440
uh posting. I forget what day was, but whatever it was.

979
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,320
The day before that was when they made a Monday.

980
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: Monday was when they made the Usk fight.

981
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,559
Speaker 2: Of Okay okay, So then there was the one day

982
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:19,360
in between and the next day they were doing the

983
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,159
press comments. So of course Tyson had to kind of

984
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,320
jump all over that because he knew, by the way,

985
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,760
and Tyson Fury is very calculated, in my opinion, if

986
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,239
he does this announcement, he knows that when all the

987
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,480
media guys show up at the at the at the

988
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:34,320
press conference for Usik against Duwa, they're going to ask

989
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,960
the writers are all going to ask the guys about

990
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,920
what do you think about Fury coming back and fighting? Uh,

991
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,840
you know, perhaps fighting Joshua and maybe even Fury may

992
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,119
have designs on maybe getting a third fight against all.

993
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: If you're but if you're Usik, you got four wins

994
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,679
against both those guys, so sure to stay tuned. All right,

995
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,239
So speaking of heavyweights, Oh, let me just say one.

996
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Thing about that. Yeah, real quick, should Daniel Duwa win

997
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,840
the fight against Usik and become the undisputed champion a

998
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,960
British undisputed CHAMPI and Daniel Dull fighting Tyson Fury challenging

999
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,079
for the underspeeded title also would be a pretty big fucking.

1000
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: Fight, presuming that Joshua doesn't beat Fury and then maybe

1001
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,320
gets a rematch.

1002
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: But Joshua, yeah, who knows?

1003
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: Uh? Speaking of heavyweights? All right, So Jerrell Miller was

1004
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,239
supposed to be fighting Fabio Wardley, however he is now hurt.

1005
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,800
Filling the details and how soon was this supposed to

1006
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,280
happen and who is the potential replacement? What have you learned? Well?

1007
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: They had remember they had that crazy press corments a

1008
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,079
couple of weeks ago where they got into like some

1009
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,519
kind of crazy, you know, back and forth with each other.

1010
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,039
They were like throwing down and you know, Jerrel Miller

1011
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:39,119
was doing his nonsense as usual. They were promoting this fight.

1012
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:41,199
It's going to be the headliner of a Queensberry design

1013
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,039
card June seventh, and it's taking place in Fabia Wordley's

1014
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,719
hometown of Ipswich, England. And so it was a day

1015
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,199
or two ago that that Queensberry promotion said that Jeral

1016
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,559
Miller had suffered a shoulder injury and that he was

1017
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:54,760
out of the fight and that they were looking for

1018
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,440
a new opponent. They hoped to have somebody in line

1019
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,280
to announce in the next forty eight hours. So uh.

1020
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,880
And there was names that had come up, and one

1021
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,800
of them, one of them was Justice Hooney, who's the

1022
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,840
Australian undefeated fighters like twelve and zero, not very experienced,

1023
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,639
but a good young up and comer. And the other

1024
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:13,239
one was Philip Perkovich who was just coming off as

1025
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,400
a late replacement to fill in and he got the

1026
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,519
win against Joe Joyce back in early April. So what

1027
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,880
I was told was that they went to both sides

1028
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:24,360
to see what they could do and then they would

1029
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,920
make a decision that Herkovic agreed to terms and was

1030
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880
ready to do the fight, but ultimately they decided to

1031
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,159
go with Justice Hoony. They were finalizing that now, and Hoony,

1032
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,840
I think to some people would be considered an easier

1033
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,280
fight Forwardly. I think also a big factor was that

1034
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:41,480
Justice Hooney was going to come for a cheaper price,

1035
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,920
which always is part of it when you're thinking about

1036
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,199
these events. That budget is also part of the equation.

1037
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:48,719
So it's not announced yet, but I suspected the next

1038
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,639
day or so you'll hear an announcement that it is,

1039
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,159
in fact Fabio Wardy will fight Justice Hoony.

1040
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: And what's the date, what's the tentative? What's it look like?

1041
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:56,960
Is it going to be delayed?

1042
00:46:57,199 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: No, No, it's like I said, June seventh.

1043
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: June seventh will still will be the date, yes for

1044
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,760
that for Wardly and the new opponent. All and then

1045
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,239
let's wrap it here on the news with this, Matchroom

1046
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:14,280
made their spring and early summer schedule available, including a

1047
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:16,679
fight card in Japan that will kick it off in

1048
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,159
late May. Go over this real quick here with what

1049
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,039
they have announced.

1050
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they announced four events. They don't necessarily come as

1051
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:24,400
any kind of great surprise, but it's good to see

1052
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,880
it all kind of laid out in front of you.

1053
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,840
In the United States and some other territories are in

1054
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,159
around the world, but not in Japan and some other places.

1055
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,039
The zone will have the coverage of the vacant IBF

1056
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,800
Junior Lightweight title fight, which takes place March I'm sorry,

1057
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,239
May twenty eighth in Yokohama, Japan. It's the very power

1058
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,280
punching Eduardo Sugar Nunez will fight for that delt against

1059
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,880
Massnory Rashiki. So that will be the first of those

1060
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,079
four events. Then on May thirtieth, Natum goes back to Guadalara, Mexico.

1061
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,519
They put on a handful of cards in Mexico every year,

1062
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,039
and this will be a remastering Manual Gayegos and Khali

1063
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,760
Oko in a light heavyweight fight. Guy scored the upset

1064
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,360
in the first fight by knocking co out. And the

1065
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,559
Mexico cards they don't necessarily come with the big names,

1066
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,239
but they always have. These cards always have good actions,

1067
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,440
so I like the match from Mexico cards. And then

1068
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,199
again this has not come as at all a surprise

1069
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,159
June fourteenth at the Madison Square Garden Theater. It'll be

1070
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,880
Richardson Hitchins the ib of Junior at welterweight title holder.

1071
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,960
He will defend against George Cambosa's returning to the same

1072
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:25,679
January pulled his career making victory against Tafimo Lopez. To me,

1073
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,400
this is a complete mismatch, but nonetheless that's happening. And

1074
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,559
then they also made official fight we have already talked about.

1075
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,599
It's now a done deal. I reported about this like

1076
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:34,639
over a week ago, but that it was official. It'll

1077
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:37,320
be the unification fight at Junior at banhamweight. It's the

1078
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,519
WBC champion Jesse Vam Rodriguez against the WBO champion of

1079
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:44,639
fum Lenlay Cafu from South Africa. They will meet in

1080
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:47,000
the main event to unify those titles. July nineteenth at

1081
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,239
the Star and the Ford Center in Frisco, Texas. It's

1082
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,199
the practice facility of the Dallas Cowboys covered fights there.

1083
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,920
It's actually a great location for fights. And then the

1084
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,679
co feature will be the super middleweight fight between Diego

1085
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Pacheco and Trevor Combe, who's coming off a real game performance.

1086
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,079
Although ultimately a loss against Caleb Plan.

1087
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: So a lot of different matchroom cards there, all right,

1088
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:10,400
great stuff with the previews, with the news. All right,

1089
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,440
we do have nostalgia as well as we release this podcast.

1090
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:17,679
It is the tenth anniversary on Friday, May second, twenty

1091
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,039
fifteen of Mayweather Paciao. Here we go again, Ray Feel

1092
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:25,119
with me coaching the audience podcast audience, go find the

1093
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,519
moving video, the pictures, the moving pictures of Rayfiel and me.

1094
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,199
Dan giving his first person account of being ringside and

1095
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,039
part of that crazy fight week where they finally got

1096
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,880
in the ring Mayweather and Pachiao unfortunately ended up being

1097
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,320
a dud main event as it turns out, but Dan

1098
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,440
recounts the whole thing on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page.

1099
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,760
Good nostalgia there. There's other nostalgia that's going to be

1100
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,079
there this weekend too. About Floyd Mayweather also fighting Oscar

1101
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:53,960
de la Hoya for an anniversary on Cinco de Mayo.

1102
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,679
And why you think Roy Jones, who made his professional

1103
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,320
debut in early May of Night ten eighty nine, is

1104
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,559
the most impressive fighter you've ever seen. How's that for

1105
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,480
a tease? Go see in person, live in person, Go

1106
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,519
see all of those videos on the Big Fight Weekend

1107
00:50:11,039 --> 00:50:14,239
YouTube page, So we're pushing you there to watch all

1108
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,760
of that. We're not selling you short on the nostalgia

1109
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,440
just to sell you short, peeps. We want you to

1110
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,519
go engage with the YouTube page and subscribe. Help us out.

1111
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,480
So many times we get compliments on you enjoy what

1112
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,639
we do. Please help us. We're asking for the help.

1113
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Subscribe on the YouTube page, go watch those videos, et cetera.

1114
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:36,679
And another reminder, Dan, I'm like a school teacher right

1115
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,800
now drilling it into the kids here. But I'm just

1116
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,039
saying I hear you and I will be live Friday

1117
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,599
night after the fatal Fury Card, so you're hearing this

1118
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:49,039
podcast on Friday. We're live on the YouTube page after

1119
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:52,079
the fatal Fury Card to recap whatever happens with Ryan Garcia,

1120
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,559
Devin Haney and the comin Events and Tea Fimo Lopez

1121
00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:59,679
as well in his title defense. Other than that, are

1122
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,960
you for this weekend and all these fight cards from

1123
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,559
New York to Sauday Arabia to Vegas, Holy Cow?

1124
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 2: As I tell you every week, I'm not fighting, So

1125
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:07,800
I'm ready.

1126
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: We are ready. Thank you for finding us. Rate US,

1127
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,719
review us Take a screenshot of that. Go to the

1128
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,960
YouTube page and subscribe. Take a screenshot of that. We

1129
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,559
got to give away coming up. We're live on the

1130
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:20,880
YouTube page Friday night for a few minutes to recap.

1131
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,280
We'll do a full recap off the weekend on the

1132
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,800
pod feed. I'm all out of promo material with that.

1133
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:29,639
With that, Oh, by the way, go watch the bet

1134
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,119
Us show that we already did for the handicapping and

1135
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:35,440
the picks. If you're looking for short term investment, go

1136
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,000
see the bet Us show on their platforms, their YouTube, etc.

1137
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,360
We had fun doing that earlier in a week. I'm

1138
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,559
all out of promos. Let's get to the fights, Big Dan.

1139
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,440
I'll talk to you on Friday night on YouTube on

1140
00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:46,719
the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page.

1141
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,599
Speaker 2: That's good. I heard we're doing a YouTube thing on

1142
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:49,480
Friday night. Is that true?

1143
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:52,079
Speaker 1: That is confirmed? Thank you for one more reminder to

1144
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:54,960
the savages. For now, we are good. You've been listening

1145
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,000
in case you forgot, the Big Fight Weekend preview podcast

1146
00:51:58,119 --> 00:51:58,199
by

1147
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