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<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot of insistent tongues, as we're

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<v Speaker 1>aware of, and I'm always like, what are these tongues?

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<v Speaker 2>What are they insisting?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, we both read systic fibrosis weekly. That's

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<v Speaker 3>so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Married and trapped with a sociopath.

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<v Speaker 4>This could have been an interesting thing to explore in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Book, but it wasn't Doggie style for a girl missionary

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<v Speaker 3>for a voids such a science.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is an unlikable character because of how dumb

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<v Speaker 3>Again, any character that wants to die in this book,

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<v Speaker 3>feel free go buy me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome back to Mean book Club. This

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<v Speaker 1>week we read The Last Missus Parish by Live Constantine.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't Don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I also want to go ahead and welcome new listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, if you're new, Hello, we are me book Club.

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<v Speaker 1>We read our Times bestsellers that we think maybe shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 1>We get recommendations from listeners, fans books they might have

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<v Speaker 1>done for their book clubs.

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<v Speaker 3>That they were like our mom in laws sometimes our laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Books that basically maybe everyone else in your book club

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<v Speaker 1>was like I love it and you were like what.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talk about them, we roast them. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we boast them because sometimes we love them, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Not all of us almost almost, don't. I don't that's fair, easily,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a saying should I know this? Or is

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<v Speaker 3>this another thing that you kind of made up? Sir?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, yeah, I would say I made it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we roast before, we roasted before you know it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we could definitely say it could be something we say.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, all right. Oh wow, I wasn't expecting this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a roast or listen?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that it needs to become a part

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<v Speaker 4>of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it's fine for now. I thought it's fine

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<v Speaker 4>for now.

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<v Speaker 3>Like judge a book by its cover.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like, are we going to start boasting books?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the point of the podcast at that point? You

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Sure? As always, we are your hosts. I'm Sarah Burton.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Clara Morris, and I'm Jonas Crabis.

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<v Speaker 2>And moment of silence for our fourth member, who is

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<v Speaker 2>again very.

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<v Speaker 3>Busy drowning in work. But she does say things like

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<v Speaker 3>when she answers our text, which is not all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>She does say things like I miss you guys. I

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<v Speaker 3>love the podcast. She recently said, Yeah, she was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to like build her life around the podcast in a

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<v Speaker 3>way that concerned me. For her, I said, important.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think we should encourage it, though it happens.

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<v Speaker 4>What happens when she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Right here, we are looking like life dicis.

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<v Speaker 4>Life decisions should include Meme book Club. And that's for us,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's for the listeners, and and that's for the listeners. Friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I feel like being missing Sabrina.

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<v Speaker 1>We're missing our main boaster and let we I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can admiss that.

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<v Speaker 4>We can admit easy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who else I wanted to just shout out

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<v Speaker 3>now we are talking about, you know, Meme book Club

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<v Speaker 3>If you are an advertiser, maybe you have a little

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<v Speaker 3>give us a shout, yeah, noise.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it a cock.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll let us give it a cock. Cough, shout down

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<v Speaker 3>our email, give us a cock.

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<v Speaker 2>Coon.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so this is now an advertise it for advertisements

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<v Speaker 4>that montarily the zoo.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope the zoo wants it because that way still

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<v Speaker 2>call all.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel about zeus though I don't know. I have mixed feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're right, well yeah, all right, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get into why we're reading this book.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, sure, Claia, Why are we reading this book?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? This was recommended to us by a listener

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<v Speaker 4>named Mollie. She wrote in she said, hello, parasocial friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Longtime listener, first time writer. The book I'm dying for

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<v Speaker 4>you to read is The Last Missus Parish by Live Constantine.

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<v Speaker 4>The audiobook is especially egregious, as the character representation is

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<v Speaker 4>so entirely unlikable.

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<v Speaker 2>This is accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>The book jacket claims shocking turns and dark secrets that

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<v Speaker 4>will keep you guessing until the very end. The Last

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<v Speaker 4>Missus Parish is a fresh, juicy, and utterly addictive thriller

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<v Speaker 4>from a diabolically imaginative talent. This is all a lie.

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<v Speaker 4>It hurt my ears. I hated every character. I cheered

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<v Speaker 4>for no One. Thank you. I love I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Molly, Mollie. Accurate, very accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>I cheered for no One is such a good line

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<v Speaker 3>and it You know a book is hateful when you're

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<v Speaker 3>feeling that way, when you're waiting for like when you're hoping, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope this character gets hit by a tractor and

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<v Speaker 3>they bleed.

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<v Speaker 4>Out, and it could be any of the characters.

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<v Speaker 3>Any one of them. Right now, let's see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Casualties. Uh yeah it uh yeah, accurate. She got us

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<v Speaker 1>with it the shocking terms, keeping you guessing until the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and well I'm already like.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what were those in the first chapter? There was

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<v Speaker 2>no thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, honestly, it's like, have you ever seen what's the

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Davin movie? The classically? If you've ever seen the

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<v Speaker 3>talented mister Ripley, it's like, cool, here it is, but a.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl, I guess. I think it's way worse than that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worse, but like this, like, let me take that

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<v Speaker 2>but make it worse.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, it doesn't matter about the gender. It's just worse, worse,

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<v Speaker 2>How did you guys read it?

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<v Speaker 4>Audible audiobook? I cannot get these. These are too popular

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<v Speaker 4>for the library these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Gang, this isn't even a recent one.

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<v Speaker 1>I I also did audiobook dot com but uh.

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<v Speaker 3>SAME's And I hate to do it. I really hate

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<v Speaker 3>to be spending a lot of money this season, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to very bad people. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still yees to live, but as you guys are, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>to quite a few books from a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>One is still missing somewhere in Savannah, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>So right right, right, right right, and you'll never get

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, all right, this is the book I lost.

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<v Speaker 3>we're all our special library tags.

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<v Speaker 4>And they'll know, but maybe they'll forgive you.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love that if they'll just forgive me. I

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like, yeah, somebody else's dog,

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<v Speaker 3>but like not giving them the their dog.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think I think that that's an extremely

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're making yourself feel worse than you need to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I killed their dog and now desperately searching

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, go ahead, improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Really all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, uh, I think it's time for Clara clarifies the plot.

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<v Speaker 4>Clara classes it up with the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember I tried, I tried it. I tried to.

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<v Speaker 4>Ted an Amber a Daphne a Jackson, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be the two little girls because just one lune each.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I'll be Daphne.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Daphne, I'll be Amber.

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<v Speaker 4>Would anyone like to double up and be Jackson as well?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do Jackson?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahdi action.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm evil and poor. Who's the richest man in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to befriend his wife and then still him.

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<v Speaker 1>I have talent. I can look ugly when I'm friends

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<v Speaker 3>I know our marriage looks perfect, but it's actually abusive. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>my sister died, and my abusive husband is kind of right.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to shut up about that.

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<v Speaker 1>There we'll be sex scenes in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Book, but they will be horrible rape.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bad, I have dark hair, I look like the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it ends with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Clara is pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Tallula, I'm the daughter who likes to read. I'm Bella.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the daughter who can't read. That's why I'm so unpleasant.

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<v Speaker 3>Amber also has a dead sister.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you can have a friend even though I'm extremely

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<v Speaker 1>controlling in every other way, Amber is sketchy.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, what if I make Jackson fall for

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<v Speaker 3>her and divorce me and abuse her instead of me?

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<v Speaker 3>I know that makes me seem evil, but Amber deserves

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<v Speaker 3>it because she is bad in her own way the end,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>That is accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I couldn't stop imagining Jackson as the main character

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<v Speaker 4>from the main character man Room. It ends with us

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<v Speaker 4>because he was described as like dark hair. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>got it, that's the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy too that, like I have read this exact

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<v Speaker 3>plot before.

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<v Speaker 2>We have, we have, we have, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't remember if it was for Mean book Club

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<v Speaker 3>or if it was one of my.

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<v Speaker 2>Pri It was definitely maybe at all, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We definitely did Mean book Club. To be fair, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe this one can't. Was the house the Housemaid? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can definitely talk about the house Maid in comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will this one did come out first, but

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to sway anything. I have to say, Johnna.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny got any jugs to go along with this, So

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<v Speaker 1>I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Say A nice white wine sath Blanc is the drink

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<v Speaker 3>to pair with this like one hundred billion percent the

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<v Speaker 3>other thing, I'd go ahead and pair. If anyone is

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<v Speaker 3>in Brooklyn, go ahead and walk yourself down to Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 3>Far Parmacy on on Henry Street. You're gonna go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>and you're gonna get yourself I'm sorry, is it Clara's

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<v Speaker 3>jogs or is it jobs?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm just it's supposed to be related to the book,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think you might just be telling us about

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<v Speaker 4>what you're eating right now.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not Clara's quampers. This is John's jacks.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you free claws.

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<v Speaker 2>For Seward?

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<v Speaker 3>So you can also go ahead right on down Brooklyn Pharmacy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we had an alcohol to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, Bailey's there you go. Yes, Bailey's is

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<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't be you know whoa you could design a whole

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<v Speaker 3>personality around being someone who drinks Bailey. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>with you. All right, Clara, let's talk about the author,

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<v Speaker 1>Live Constantine.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh was one of them. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't sad because that's not that expensive, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>All right? Our author is named Live Constantine. And here's

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<v Speaker 4>the little interesting twist. It's actually two people.

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<v Speaker 2>Better twist than the book.

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<v Speaker 4>Constantine is a pen name of two sisters, Lynn Constantine

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<v Speaker 4>and Valerie Constantine. You put Lynn together with Valerie, you

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<v Speaker 4>get Live Okay. So Lynn is a former marketing executive

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<v Speaker 4>with a master's degree from John Hart. Valerie has a

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<v Speaker 4>degree in English literature from the University.

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<v Speaker 2>Of mary Hey, where.

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<v Speaker 4>She graduated summa cum lade JOHNA. This is for you.

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<v Speaker 4>They both like dogs. Here's a little excerpt from their

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<v Speaker 4>self written bios. When Lynn's not writing, you can find

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<v Speaker 4>her curled up with her labrador and Golden Retreat.

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<v Speaker 2>She went with basic is what I'm getting from that?

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<v Speaker 4>And the other one the v name Valerie. She lives

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<v Speaker 4>with her husband and their brilliant cavalier King Charles da Vinci.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, King Charles. The cavalier King Charles is brilliant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>met that kind of dog. They're sweet, but they're not brilliant.

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<v Speaker 4>John is a little bit of a bias towards it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll bring details. She was cool with Alphaie, but but

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<v Speaker 3>I had to meet I had to meet a small dog,

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<v Speaker 3>and once I did, I was like, Okay, now I understood.

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<v Speaker 4>You meant the world best ever, So yes, I also

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you a bit about how they write

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<v Speaker 4>together because the Elle Lynn told the magazine about it.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, Valerie and I speak every morning when we're

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<v Speaker 4>in the midst of writing a new book. We decide

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<v Speaker 4>on which scenes each will write, then go off and

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<v Speaker 4>write individually. We then email the work to each other,

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<v Speaker 4>edit in track changes, and return. Then we talk again

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<v Speaker 4>to discuss what we've done. This goes on every day

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<v Speaker 4>it and make notes, discuss again, and start all over again.

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<v Speaker 4>By the time the book is finished, it's not uncommon

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<v Speaker 4>for one sentence to have been written half by Valerie

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<v Speaker 4>and half by me.

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<v Speaker 2>But me and I wouldn't mock it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also like, deep, guys, we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>writing a book for a while. Maybe we should adopt

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<v Speaker 4>It just seems like, does no one know about Google docs?

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<v Speaker 4>Stop emailing?

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<v Speaker 2>Is fair? Fair? We should definitely do this.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't tract changes, so I think they are insane.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do that on Microsoft Word and still be

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<v Speaker 1>emailing it back and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, ye, she's talking about emailing back and forth more than.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't need to be doing that, And they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be doing that, Yeah they need.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, And I feel like someone else once

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know about Google docs in like in a book.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it was a Curtis sitting filled when she wrote

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<v Speaker 4>about the SNL book and she had people emailing sketches

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<v Speaker 4>to each other. Okay, okay, all right, so now now

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<v Speaker 4>we can talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>The book a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I have a big section you might notice in

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<v Speaker 4>the outline sort of I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 4>And I need to tell you guys that I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>read all of Molly's email to you in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>I also saw that, but because you did not black.

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<v Speaker 4>That, I edited. Oh okay, and I edited down. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>And then when I was speaking, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, so it's something else beyond them, what you've skipped over?

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<v Speaker 2>I see? Okay, all right, this is incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, this book is not a New York Times bestseller,

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<v Speaker 4>and Molly was upfront with that, and we just ignored it.

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<v Speaker 3>What.

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<v Speaker 4>In her message before recommending the book, she wrote, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what she wrote, hear me? What if it's not

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<v Speaker 4>technically a New York Times bestseller? But because of its

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<v Speaker 4>overall long game popularity, when the sequel came out, the

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<v Speaker 4>equal became an instant New York Times bestseller. Therefore, the

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<v Speaker 4>initial book spawned a New York Times bestseller, and so

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<v Speaker 4>therefore could it be readable by the pod as a

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<v Speaker 4>listener and a fan? I vote yes. Then, before her

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<v Speaker 4>sign off, where she compliments us, she wrote, please read

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<v Speaker 4>this New York Times best selling spawning book.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot spawn.

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<v Speaker 4>I will never read it, and you can't just jump in.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's hard to get new books. She made it

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<v Speaker 4>very clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Spawning best time, Spawning Book.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to Okay, guys, here's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>No, she didn't do anything wrong. She asked if it

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, hold on, no way, you're tricking us now. You

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<v Speaker 3>need to so you have to see you see how

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<v Speaker 3>stupid we are. You're seeing it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, you're not seeing how stupid we are because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me in and I have an email reply

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<v Speaker 1>to her wreck and I said, thank you for their wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in consideration for upcoming season.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We did find it on the New York Times bestseller list,

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<v Speaker 1>so I must have founded on the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss culls for me to say that what.

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<v Speaker 4>This is, I think you might have gotten mixed up.

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<v Speaker 2>You think I got it right?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we can look again. Okay, okay, I can

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<v Speaker 4>look again.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, I don't think so I could be right.

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<v Speaker 4>It was published in October twenty seventeen. It's a Reese's

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<v Speaker 4>Book Club pick, and over a million copies have been sold.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been published in thirty countries. Netflix has the movie rights,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no cast yet. In twenty nineteen, Amazon was going

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<v Speaker 4>to make it into a TV series, but they abandoned

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<v Speaker 4>that plan, and now Netflix has it and they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to make it into a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely not a bestseller. It says national bestseller, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it has little.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes it's not. I really don't think it is. Yet

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't. I mean, I've made a mistake last time,

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<v Speaker 4>so I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think listeners are overestimating our intelligence.

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<v Speaker 4>How so she could her options were to just not

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<v Speaker 4>speak to us, because she made it very clear, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was a question does this count? Like it was

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<v Speaker 4>very clear.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think she needs to know.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, Clara, Clara, you're right about this. You are

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<v Speaker 2>right this time. You are right. Well, I made a

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<v Speaker 2>big mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the next I'm looking because I was the

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<v Speaker 1>Next Missus Parish.

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<v Speaker 3>And I so you can see a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>work was done in the sort of discovery phase. Why

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<v Speaker 3>it was poor.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Next Missus Parish are two similar titles to similar.

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<v Speaker 4>I will blame the author, Yeah, I blame an author,

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<v Speaker 4>but we can't blame that.

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<v Speaker 2>It essentially would mean the same thing. It's very confused, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't mean why would like.

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<v Speaker 4>Johnny you cannot blame purposely obfuscated.

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<v Speaker 3>She hid it. It was a tiny, tiny prince. She

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<v Speaker 3>barely said it three times.

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<v Speaker 2>In her.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess for future listeners. Three times, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not enough. You're the subject of your email needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be not a New York Times bestseller. Don't read.

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<v Speaker 2>This is on me. This one is completely on me.

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<v Speaker 4>I have John or I could have glanced at the email,

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<v Speaker 4>but I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Read the email and I said, oh no, I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up and it is the New York Parents orself. She

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't know, And I should have trusted Molly.

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<v Speaker 3>This is where I actually remember you saying that I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, and I trusted Sarah, and I guess they'll

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<v Speaker 3>like lesson learn. I shouldn't. I can't trust anybody. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't trust anyone. What I do, I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at you really with suspicion.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you're just upset. You're lashing out because you feel

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<v Speaker 4>like you made a mistake. So that's the information about

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<v Speaker 4>the book. Has everyone recovered enough to move on?

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<v Speaker 3>This is why people think that we're stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>This is that have been once and it was really bad.

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<v Speaker 4>And affected a lot of us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like once on fool me five. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>fifth book in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so funny, Like just the link that I

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<v Speaker 1>was like so camply, was like.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't do her research. I did it, and here's

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<v Speaker 2>the here's the link, and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Both we're quite insulting to Molly in your own ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah thought she knew better saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Better I did, oh mom.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was stupid enough to blindly trust you, Molly,

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<v Speaker 3>not not even read your email myself.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm not begging any so I'm not pigging

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<v Speaker 1>any books next season.

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<v Speaker 2>I just have to come out say it. I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have the I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot have any culpability anymore when it comes to this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have made this.

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<v Speaker 3>So Sarah chose this entire season.

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<v Speaker 1>Such colossal errors, and it's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah handpicked every booker and I think Serena and I

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<v Speaker 3>like fought to make one change each and she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>she was like, I don't know. I think the list

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<v Speaker 3>I put together is really perfect, but like maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>can change this one.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I hope that the books we added are and

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<v Speaker 1>also you know what, I'm not gonna you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what, at this point, I'm not going to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it. I'm not going to double check it ahead.

433
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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a surprised because that's how we've

434
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<v Speaker 1>been doing this whole season, and that's how we're going

435
00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:23.519
<v Speaker 1>to continue to roll.

436
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:25.640
<v Speaker 4>You know what, did you guys like how I had

437
00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.519
<v Speaker 4>it all blacked out and I held it off?

438
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess you know what?

439
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that was a good had it been maybe

440
00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>had you found this out like a week ago, I.

441
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Would have liked to know. Oh no, okay, Okay, then

442
00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:43.000
<v Speaker 2>then it's great because.

443
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I already read the book. But a a week ago

444
00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:46.519
<v Speaker 1>it could have been stopped.

445
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, this is this is what's happening.

446
00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It is as our guess, even Unblatt, it's as book.

447
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>It is a popular book.

448
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<v Speaker 4>Oh I'm like, just highlight it. Oh okay, I'm okay, Yes,

449
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:02.039
<v Speaker 4>it was.

450
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 3>No the episodes over. Why are you continuing? It's on

451
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:04.759
<v Speaker 3>New York Times.

452
00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Have you guys recovered? You talk about the character.

453
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:08.759
<v Speaker 3>It's time to say good night. There's no recovering.

454
00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I'll go right to sleep. Here are some of our

455
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:28.599
<v Speaker 4>characters are like the first half of the book, which

456
00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:30.960
<v Speaker 4>it seems like it's maybe more than half because it

457
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.480
<v Speaker 4>seems like it goes on for so long. It's from

458
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 4>the point of view of someone called Amber, and we

459
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.640
<v Speaker 4>know that she is manipulating. She's mister ripley ing things.

460
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:47.599
<v Speaker 4>She's manipulating the rich wife to steal the rich husband.

461
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:52.200
<v Speaker 4>We don't really know what why, other than greed, but

462
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:56.480
<v Speaker 4>she seems to be. She alludes to her past every

463
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.519
<v Speaker 4>now and then she's done something bad. We don't know

464
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 4>what it is. Is she really hates rich people to

465
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 4>the extent that it like makes you kind of want

466
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.559
<v Speaker 4>to defend rich people too much.

467
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 3>It's a rare Yeah, she is.

468
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not like she hates rich people. She also like

469
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 1>wants to be a rich person. It's a kind of

470
00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 1>like it's just a confusing perspective. It's like it needs

471
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>more texture because like, to hate rich people as much,

472
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to take them down, I understand, but

473
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to want to become what you hate is like this

474
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>requires some sort of psychological explanation that we are never given.

475
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:47.200
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it'd be very interesting to learn more about Amber. Basically,

476
00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:51.319
<v Speaker 3>we just know she's jealous of Daphne being glamorous. Yeah,

477
00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:53.920
<v Speaker 3>we do need to talk about the cystic fibrocious link

478
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 3>because it's very okay how she infiltrates Daphanie's.

479
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah, so Defnie is the rich wife. She

480
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 4>runs a foundation for sistic fibrosis because her sister died

481
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 4>from that when they were kids.

482
00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and.

483
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 3>Amber's like reading a cystic fibrosis magazine and like opens

484
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.920
<v Speaker 3>it and puts it in front of Daphne like like

485
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:24.240
<v Speaker 3>drops it like she's dropping a dog. And then Daphne

486
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 3>sees it. It's like, oh, we both read cystic fibrosis weekly.

487
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.480
<v Speaker 4>That's so cool.

488
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.680
<v Speaker 3>You must also be super intosistic fibrosis. I have a

489
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 3>dead sister, and that as such their friendship is born.

490
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 4>And like Daphne's dead sister thing is, I don't have

491
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 4>a dead sister, so I don't know, but it's a

492
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 4>bit much.

493
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.240
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

494
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.599
<v Speaker 4>She won't shut up about it, Like when her daughter

495
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 4>makes her a Christmas present, it's like, these are two hearts,

496
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 4>and this is your sister and this is you. It's like,

497
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.319
<v Speaker 4>can your daughter live her own life? Why does she

498
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:03.640
<v Speaker 4>have to make art about your day?

499
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>It feels performative, like almost especially given which we will

500
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 1>get to the twist we learn later. I'm like, it

501
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>makes it even crazier to me that she was like

502
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about her sister as much as she was. Also, Clara,

503
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>very funny in your summary to point out that the

504
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the husband maybe had some good points when he said

505
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>when he said she should, this is the like evil

506
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>abuse of husband we've mentioned. But before you know that

507
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>or I guess know what when you know when you

508
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>after you find out he is that way, he does

509
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 1>like force her to go to therapy, like to talk

510
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>about it.

511
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, she should.

512
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 1>She seems like she needs she should probably talk about

513
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that with someone.

514
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 3>People contain multitude really truly. Yeah, that is very funny.

515
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 3>He's really emotionally woke and certain area.

516
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the abortion debate too was kind of funny to me.

517
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Tale was like, that's I we will get to more

518
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of that later, but let's keep going cause the first

519
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>half the book, the first half the.

520
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Book, we're in Amber's perspective.

521
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 1>So we we get the perspective of this evil person

522
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>who's tricking people, which.

523
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Isn't necessarily bad.

524
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I love I like read listen to all these

525
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 1>podcasts about the like crazy people who trick everyone and

526
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 1>steal their money. Like I I think that's fascinating, but

527
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>like this was she This wasn't doing it for me.

528
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>This was just she was so one note but also

529
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 2>like crazy.

530
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 1>She was really smart, so she would do things like

531
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 1>do so much research for like so her end goal

532
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 1>is to get become the next the next missus Parish.

533
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 1>So she but the way she goes about it is

534
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 1>so circuitous. It's so like she's doing so much research,

535
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>tricking to trick people to get this job, and then

536
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like she's poisoning someone so that she can get their assistant.

537
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Like she's doing so much. It's like, hey, you know,

538
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 1>like there's if you were really smart, you would find

539
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>a much quicker way here, because like it's just you're

540
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>putting in so much effort, and it shows that she's

541
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 1>like can be intelligent, but she's going about it she can't.

542
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 1>She can't see the big picture, like she's she's.

543
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Just in the forest.

544
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't know the fact that she's like makes herself

545
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 4>not hot yeah yeah, yeah yeah, where she's interacting brown

546
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.240
<v Speaker 4>hair switches.

547
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 3>It's so this is the same thing that happened in

548
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 3>the Housemaid, which is just like there For some reason,

549
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 3>these female authors believe that like a woman wouldn't be

550
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 3>able to recognize another woman's inherent beauty. Yeah, like, so

551
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 3>long as that woman is wearing like ugly clothes and glasses.

552
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 3>And let me tell you something, hot girls never look

553
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 3>more hot than when they're in trashy.

554
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And look like they're not trying. You're absolutely right. You

555
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>can always greasy.

556
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Hair, in a bond, no makeup, and then they clearly

557
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 3>were wearing whatever, and I'm just like, fuck, you didn't

558
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 3>even try, and you're so beautiful, Like I know when

559
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 3>someone's beautiful. So it's very funny that in both of

560
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.599
<v Speaker 3>these it was like, she dresses mousey in front of

561
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Daphne so she can't reveal what it doesn't see her

562
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 3>real beauty. But in front of Jackson she begins to

563
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 3>dress nicer and nicer and flirt subtly. It's like women

564
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 3>saw this coming fifty miles.

565
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, very true.

566
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.559
<v Speaker 1>That's another reason why it's this. Daphne, the character she's scammied,

567
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>is so unlikable because it's like, I don't know, I

568
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 1>don't really like want to root for a character that's

569
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>so gullible. I want, I want, I wanted, like JOHNA

570
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, I wanted to see her get hit by

571
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 1>a buzz. I was like, I do not like this lady.

572
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 2>She sucks.

573
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't you know what. It's like. I don't even

574
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 3>like their children, Like I don't like anyone.

575
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 1>The children are so poorly ridden. I almost was just

576
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>wondering if the does allthor not have kids?

577
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Neither of them kids.

578
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like they were written like, oh they do, yeah,

579
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you only answered their dogs.

580
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe they don't. But I finally saw a question

581
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 4>in an interview, it.

582
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Just seems like maybe, yeah, well it just seems surprising

583
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 1>almost because I was like, these children are written horribly.

584
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I guess it's nice that there's some texture

585
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to the girl that like can't read, but like, I

586
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe it was also just because we were

587
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>hearing about it from Amber's perspective and it.

588
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Was so boring.

589
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>She was just like spoiled girls and she thought she was.

590
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 1>She was just so like can you imagine, like everything

591
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>about it didn't make sense that like they were like, oh,

592
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>random person, you're now my best friend and please like

593
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 1>she's just like patting herself on the back. But it's like, wait,

594
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>can't you sense smell this desperation?

595
00:31:58.599 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And that was true desperation.

596
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Yeah, And it didn't even make sense

597
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 4>that she was allowed to sutt of like the Daphne

598
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 4>is allowed by the controlling, abusive husband to have a

599
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 4>random friend.

600
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, she left like a line of justification that was,

601
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>like I said in front of other people that I

602
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>felt bad for her, so he had to let me

603
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>invite her for Christmas or something, was like the only justification.

604
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>But was like, it's still weird. Why would he Yeah,

605
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 2>he would not. You're absolutely right.

606
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>If he was controlling, he would definitely, and he obviously

607
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 1>at first thought Amber was trash, so why would he

608
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 1>let her?

609
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 4>He let her come to Christmas?

610
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And I was disappointed in the other mean ladies in

611
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 1>the Sistics fiberss Foundation that like, once Amber got rid

612
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of the co chair or whoever, I can't remember it,

613
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>but got rid of her by revealing that she was

614
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:02.279
<v Speaker 1>cheating or something, then I was ready. I wanted the

615
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 1>other girls to mean girl her, but they didn't. They

616
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 1>just like stepped aside and that was the end of that.

617
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't I bet they all didn't want to be

618
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 4>the fucking code here.

619
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 3>No one, Yeah, no one wants the responsibility of an

620
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 3>elected position. Yeah I do. I do buy that. Obviously

621
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 3>there's a twist later, but like that Jackson could be

622
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 3>attracted to someone that he thinks his trashy, dumb garbage

623
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 3>at first. That does fill in line with uh Man

624
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 3>character in book.

625
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Sure, but why would you let Daphney have her as

626
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 4>a friend? He does? He was taking French lessons and.

627
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, nothing about it. Yeah, yeah, I gotch you guys,

628
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>not that.

629
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 4>I think where I really turned on Namber was when

630
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 4>she was like judging rich people really hard and she

631
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.480
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, the mom needs like a nanny on

632
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 4>the weekends too, or some shit like that where it's

633
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 4>like you.

634
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>And then it was revealed that she well, never mind

635
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 1>that the character didn't advocate whatever.

636
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, she seemed I guess, I don't even.

637
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Know what you'd call like, I guess she was a sociopath,

638
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>but it was like she was, and it was not

639
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>funny because I feel like I could give I could

640
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like let you get away with like a mean character

641
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 1>mocking the rich or like doing pure evil stuff if

642
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 1>they also had like some personality or were like funny

643
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 1>in some way so that they were like obviously wrong,

644
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>but like they were so their perspective was so interesting

645
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 1>and unique. I'm gonna and it made me made me laugh.

646
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I would, I'd follow it, but like, and it was

647
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>none of that. It was just like generic rich people,

648
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>bad spoiled me, want one to be one.

649
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Also, yes, it was yeah, so much of that. And

650
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 4>then like I.

651
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Feel like it could have been four chapters from the

652
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 3>certain number perspective before we then get to the daf

653
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 3>name personerspective.

654
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.679
<v Speaker 4>And like, also I feel like the author was trying

655
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.519
<v Speaker 4>to like slowly tease out that obviously Daphne is being

656
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 4>abused and is not happy in the relationship, and it

657
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 4>was like a bit painful for Amber to not realize

658
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.199
<v Speaker 4>that because it was getting so obvious.

659
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like it's supposed to be revealed as a

660
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 3>plot twist to the reader too. It's like Daphne's perfect

661
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 3>life not so perfect after all. It's like really, wow.

662
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 4>It's like Daphne seems really scared of her husband the

663
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:41.079
<v Speaker 4>fucking ritually that's how Itever takes it. So that's annoying,

664
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 4>and so you're just kind of waiting for the perspective

665
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:44.360
<v Speaker 4>shift for so.

666
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Long, and also just like the fact that from okay,

667
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>from the husband's perspective, we don't like get his chapters, but.

668
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>In it in the in the Amber.

669
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Half would I do in the Amber half, there's like

670
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a point where she like turns she's with him, she

671
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>gets him to cheat or like to get him to cheat.

672
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>She says all these horrible things her best friend, her

673
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 1>apparent best friend, said about him behind his back, and

674
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's also just showed how crazy stupid his

675
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 1>character was to not be like, wait, why are you

676
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 1>her best friend? And now you're talking complete trash about her?

677
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Like this is immediately suspicious. You just did a one

678
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to eighty, but like no, he just was like believed it.

679
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it was just like.

680
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 4>And also didn't murder Dafne for it.

681
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was like, right, I guess that's really dark,

682
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 3>but you're right, I.

683
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Guess at the point that point, I was what I

684
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.159
<v Speaker 1>was hoping was that like, oh, the difference between this

685
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and like the Housemaid was like the Amber slash Housemaid

686
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 1>character and Amber is much more is I guess, unlikable

687
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 1>and horrible in many ways than the Housemaid character, and

688
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, oh, maybe this is gonna be funny.

689
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It'd be so funny if these two as just like

690
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>two sociopaths together happy.

691
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>But that's not how it went.

692
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 1>But I was really hoping that that would be something

693
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>just like where they were like, you know, oh, we.

694
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:21.239
<v Speaker 2>See each other and we're great. We'll both be crazy.

695
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Performative in front of other people and psychos behind the scenes,

696
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's just works for us.

697
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 2>We love each other. That's what I was hoping. Didn't

698
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:30.840
<v Speaker 2>get my fairy tale.

699
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 3>But those people are out there and they just met

700
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 3>each other in a nice way. Hope that those people

701
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 3>find each other, yes way, you know, and you can

702
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 3>leave the funny brave Pittsburgh Steelers' safeties for me?

703
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Is there something specific said Trip Triple?

704
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Oh, he's very happily married to his wife and

705
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm happily married to me. Is not funny. He's utterly unfunny.

706
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:07.800
<v Speaker 3>He's very very sincere.

707
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

708
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 4>I was about to be like, did he make a

709
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 4>drink anyway?

710
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Phoebe? Wait, no, what who's Phoebe?

711
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 4>Daphne?

712
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Daphne?

713
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 4>All right, we get her perspective, and it's bad it's

714
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 4>bad man Jackson is really abusing her. It's very unpleasant

715
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 4>to listen to.

716
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 3>We find out that she's trapped, you know, she's trapped,

717
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>even financially trapped. Even the charity work that she's doing,

718
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 3>it was all Jackson's idea. So again he has an

719
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 3>altruistics and you would and you.

720
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Would think given the fact that she's like married and

721
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.519
<v Speaker 1>trapped with a sociopath and like studying him, that she

722
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>would be able to like spot one again, but she

723
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>does not.

724
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she took those psychology classes.

725
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>And then she fell for it again.

726
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is an unlikable character because of

727
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>how dumb they are and they're being abused.

728
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's also interesting to me that we keep reading

729
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.239
<v Speaker 3>these books about like a woman that's being abused, but

730
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 3>it's a really super wealthy woman with a you know,

731
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:12.840
<v Speaker 3>like they're like top one percent family, and it's it

732
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 3>is just interesting because it's like that is not typically

733
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 3>the woman who's it's true, like who's trapped in an

734
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 3>abusive marriage. Like the people with resources like do have

735
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 3>a better chance of getting out. But it just seems

736
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>like authors are like incapable of writing.

737
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>They know their audience and they're like, you'd like to

738
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>imagine that you're rich like this lady, and then it's scary.

739
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And also literacy is going to be a

740
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:43.119
<v Speaker 3>big part for my book. Literacy and one character will

741
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 3>be a writer and one person can't read, and it's

742
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 3>the saddest thing and the whole.

743
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh also, sorry to go back.

744
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 1>So the he starts getting abusive, she gets or Daphne

745
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 1>gets pregnant and they find out it's a woman, and

746
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 1>like at one point, oh my god, sorry, it's a

747
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 1>baby girl and he really wanted a boy. And she

748
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>he says something like next time we'll get a CBS

749
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and confirm the gender all this stuff, and I was like,

750
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 1>what is he talking about, Like you can do a blood.

751
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Test in ten weeks, you don't need to do that.

752
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

753
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was really funny how off the

754
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>medical perspective wasn't all that? And also she was he

755
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>was like they were again, yeah, maybe had these conversations

756
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 1>before you get married. But the fact that he was like, oh,

757
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 1>there's something wrong, we'll get an abortion, she was like, no,

758
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

759
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>I was like, actually, secretly, yeah, I was like, am

760
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I supposed to like like her for this. I don't.

761
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

762
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I just it's like she's just being annoying now because

763
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 1>it's just like her being righteous and it doesn't And

764
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 1>we know she has two daughters, so it's not like

765
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it came into play, do you know what I mean?

766
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just bother we know it didn't.

767
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

768
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he was right because he was like, we'll

769
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 2>talk about it if it happens.

770
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, yeah, yeah, I'd like this guy

771
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 4>a bit gruff about.

772
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>It, but I'm like, he was right, it didn't happen.

773
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't don't talk to me. Don't want to hear your

774
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>conversation about this.

775
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 4>I think my biggest problem with Daphney is her Like

776
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 4>was she really stuck? Like could she have worked a

777
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 4>little harder and gotten herself? Yeah, it just seemed like

778
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 4>she was so weak. Ye, she resigned herself to this.

779
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Her parents could have got her her, like, like they

780
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't trust it, like she could have it did.

781
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I did not feel that she was. I guess it's trapped.

782
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Just maybe the wife and housemaid.

783
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember the other one when she was like

784
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 4>literally in the attic.

785
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 2>They both had them committed. That was something they both did.

786
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 4>It was they both had them committed, and he used

787
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:56.679
<v Speaker 4>his money to get like fair.

788
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, I didn't like any Yeah I did to.

789
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>She's I don't like to hear about the babies getting

790
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 1>taken away from the mommies.

791
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that at all. I don't like it.

792
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.440
<v Speaker 4>He likes that, but it just seems like it's not

793
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 4>It seems like, why don't you I don't know if

794
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 4>she she said like he would show her the letters

795
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 4>and be like as like a threat. It's like, all right,

796
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 4>why don't you put up a secret camera or something like, Yeah,

797
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

798
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Know, catch him, yeah, record anything and get him sick,

799
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 1>because he's anything. He reveals himself to you all the time,

800
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>like record You're absolutely right, Clara.

801
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, He's like, no one would ever believe that I'm

802
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 3>abusing you me Jack.

803
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 4>He says that every night. Also try to kill him.

804
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:45.639
<v Speaker 4>I think she should have tried to kill him.

805
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cut it done that she did again.

806
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Any character that wants to die in this book, feel

807
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 3>free go buy me.

808
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 1>We did not, and we did not see she didn't

809
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like in a Housemaid. At one point, she

810
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>actually tries to escape and gets but like there was

811
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 1>no escape attempted.

812
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 2>No kay.

813
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 4>The thing she does to like take risks with Jackson.

814
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 4>One of the things he likes her to go to

815
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 4>the gym, because he makes her go to the gym

816
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 4>right he wants her to say fit. She skips that

817
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 4>for a massage, lies to him about it. It's like,

818
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 4>are you fucking gating me? Skip it to go to

819
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 4>the goddamn to use a gun yourself? Are you kidding?

820
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And then.

821
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I think anything anything to get a massage.

822
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 2>And then she does.

823
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 1>The other secret thing she does is like she says

824
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 1>she's taking classes in like art history, but then goes

825
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 1>to psychology classes to take to take where she clearly

826
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>learns nothing. I don't know what the fuck crinky dink

827
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 1>in college she was going.

828
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 2>To like it was it was, it was.

829
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like she's doing the slowest role she possibly can

830
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.719
<v Speaker 3>for her for her escape, which is like, first I'll

831
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 3>get a massage to make for my muscle so that

832
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm able. It's like, then I'll begin a program on

833
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 3>psychology like it was, I'll get a I'll get a

834
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 3>six year degree program and.

835
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Let me get my blood tested.

836
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Make sure everything's like, just in case I'm a little dehydrated,

837
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to be low on vitamin D.

838
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:33.079
<v Speaker 4>And it's like this could have been an interesting thing

839
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 4>to explore in the book, that like she's not really

840
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 4>trapped and that she's sort of like passive in it,

841
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.360
<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't. The book presented it as like she's

842
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.960
<v Speaker 4>totally trapped. Her only choice is to get the massage

843
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 4>and then.

844
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 3>But like you said, it's like it's being trapped is

845
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 3>so much more mental, I feel like than it is

846
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 3>anything else, which is like that's that would be an

847
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 3>interesting thing for this book to flore, right, but it doesn't.

848
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.360
<v Speaker 3>It's like no, no, She's physically trying get to.

849
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>The point where Amber's introduced, and like she just falls

850
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>for everything Amber is telling her uh for a long time,

851
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 1>up until maybe they find out Amber, another member of

852
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the fibrosis Cistic Fibrosus Foundation, reveals that she isn't who

853
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>she says she is, and then instead of she kind

854
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>of believes her insane that she was from an abused

855
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>family and that's why she has a fake name. But

856
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>she's like, just in case, I'll do one thing and

857
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll hire she can hire a private investigator. She couldn't

858
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.679
<v Speaker 1>do this on her own husband, like she couldn't do

859
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>anything whatever, But she does.

860
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.159
<v Speaker 4>And then it's like, get the same private investigator to

861
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.280
<v Speaker 4>tell the world that you're beating.

862
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, anything, but anyway, and then finds out about her.

863
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.519
<v Speaker 1>But then like, she doesn't seem that upset about it.

864
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't seem to like beat herself up. Because I personally,

865
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>if I were her at this junk, sure I'd be like, wow,

866
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm being had again. Well this is telling me it's

867
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a me problem. I'm a stupid, fucking idiot, or at

868
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 1>least I.

869
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 4>Would be in denial about it, and that would be

870
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 4>interesting for the book.

871
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 1>It was just like, yeah, okay, oh I've been had again.

872
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe she can be me instead. Like it's not

873
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 1>even clear at this point that she is going to

874
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.320
<v Speaker 1>try to steal her husband, but like, for some reason.

875
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, maybe I'm getting confused.

876
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.920
<v Speaker 4>But it also felt frustrating to me that Dafne like

877
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 4>took all the credit for Jackson falling in love with Amber.

878
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it was no Amber got hot.

879
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Amber did the thing.

880
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>All you did was say you don't like Shakespeare and

881
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>then she repeated it, and that come that would not

882
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>have upset about out.

883
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:01.719
<v Speaker 3>There's a special place in hell for women, and that

884
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 3>is classic Daphne.

885
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, truly Daphne does not support other women. So

886
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>she gets her way because it's funny enough.

887
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Amber goes as far as like finding out he wanted

888
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a boy and then somehow does get pregnant with a

889
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 1>boy just luck of the draw.

890
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I guess, well, they probably did it missionary, right. I

891
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 3>think you have to as long as you do it missionary,

892
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 3>it's a boy. You guys don't know that we both

893
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>have boys, and we're giving you a face doggy style

894
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 3>for a girl, missionary for a boy. It's such a science,

895
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.719
<v Speaker 3>so all she did.

896
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess if it's easy, she

897
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 4>figured it out.

898
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:51.079
<v Speaker 2>As far as I know, it.

899
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:55.199
<v Speaker 4>Was interesting because she when she told him she was

900
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 4>having a boy, she said she photoshopped the ultrasound.

901
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And then just got lucky, right, and then just got lucky,

902
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 1>which is so boring.

903
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.559
<v Speaker 4>Why don't you why did you introduce the idea that

904
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't like, why did you introduce the photoshop? Yeah,

905
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 4>if it wasn't going to pay off, just make it

906
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:15.400
<v Speaker 4>be that she was bringing it.

907
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

908
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Also, like, what do you mean you photoshopped the ultrasound,

909
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Like you went in there and you like drew a little.

910
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, that's a boy because that's pretty much all

911
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>they do, right, it's a girl.

912
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.199
<v Speaker 3>But there's like, like there's nothing really on the ultrasound.

913
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.280
<v Speaker 3>It's so normal to not be able to see any

914
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 3>any sex organs. She likes what I'm talking about.

915
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 1>She is an incredible as a hardist, and she could

916
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 1>be using these skills to do a lot more Like

917
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>if she can do this kind of photoshop, like, she

918
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:56.559
<v Speaker 1>could be doing bigger scams. Like she does not need

919
00:48:56.679 --> 00:49:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to be fucking and blowing a guy just to get

920
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>his money, Like, she has other talents.

921
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 2>And it's crazy to me that she doesn't see that.

922
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 3>And that's a woman that's supports with their women right there.

923
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 2>If I were a friend, I'd sit her down and

924
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I'd tell her like, look, I'd sit.

925
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 4>Her down and be like, I believe you that you

926
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:17.880
<v Speaker 4>also have a dead sister in the answer.

927
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Also like look at what you've done in your life,

928
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 1>or look at what you've accomplished, look at all the

929
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 1>devious trickster stuff. Do you really believe that you would

930
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>marry someone and just become their trophy wife and that

931
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you would be happy in that life. Like, let's be real,

932
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 1>not no way you're gonna you are a scam artist,

933
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and that is you are an artist.

934
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, you embrace it, you know, don't give up on.

935
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:48.360
<v Speaker 3>You know.

936
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I I you were, And that's what I would say.

937
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:56.719
<v Speaker 3>To her, M Like, there are certainly elements of being

938
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.000
<v Speaker 3>a trophy wife that I have a handle, you know,

939
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:06.679
<v Speaker 3>for sure. The massages, the massages, I you know what

940
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like if that is my job, that's my job.

941
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Like I'll find the joy in it that I can,

942
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.559
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. And the money for sure,

943
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 3>and that sort of just filling each day with pleasure

944
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:25.079
<v Speaker 3>as as I desire it, so it to whatever whims

945
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:25.280
<v Speaker 3>I have.

946
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like eventually those things will lose the You're

947
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.320
<v Speaker 1>just gonna become more. She's gonna seek more and more.

948
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>And so would you, Johnnah, you would never. You would

949
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>never be satiated. You would need massages twenty four to seven.

950
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, and then that wouldn't be nice. You'd be

951
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>paying people to touch you off.

952
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

953
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 3>I would like have a job to a secret a

954
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 3>secret job.

955
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, anyway, I whatever, it's there's so there's so

956
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>little in this that makes sense.

957
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Where are we in this fucker? Okay, so now we're

958
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.119
<v Speaker 2>at the point where Daphnie.

959
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:11.440
<v Speaker 1>We're from Daphnie's perspective and she thinks she's tricking Amber,

960
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 1>but like, really, as Claire pointed out, I still think

961
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Amber's doing a bulk of the work with the cheating here.

962
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 2>She's just gaining ten pounds. Ten pounds, she gained ten pounds.

963
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 2>It's nothing, you kidding me? Oh, it's really fat phobic.

964
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:35.519
<v Speaker 2>This book is sorry, I forgot about how so much about.

965
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Wade and Amber being mean about Daphne gaining I don't know.

966
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It was like one of those where it's like she

967
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 1>was a size flour and now she's a size six.

968
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, so they're all just really fit. I

969
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 1>can't tell the difference between a size flour and a

970
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 1>size six?

971
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Get the fuck out of here?

972
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, Yeah, it was insane. Yeah, there's so much

973
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 4>emphasis on weight and like her deciding like I know

974
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.960
<v Speaker 4>how to get Daphne being like I know how to

975
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 4>get Amber and my husband together all gain weight. That's

976
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:19.800
<v Speaker 4>her grand plan.

977
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I learned this in psychology that men don't like get

978
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 1>men be men game. Yeah, no, she's an everyone's an idiot,

979
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and so you can't roof for anyone. And also I

980
00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>just just because like you know, I'm the sex the sexpert,

981
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 1>I would say the sex scene expert or you know, fan,

982
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess I have to bring up this book did

983
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of sex, but most of it was rape,

984
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't and the sex that wasn't rape was

985
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:55.519
<v Speaker 1>like almost I guess could be arguably rape because there

986
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 1>were it was like people trying to trick other people

987
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was.

988
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:01.199
<v Speaker 2>There was nothing.

989
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was a lot of it was joy.

990
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 1>It was there was a lot of insistent tongues, as

991
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.760
<v Speaker 1>we're aware of, and I'm always like, what are these tongues?

992
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 2>What are they insisting? Like right, why is that.

993
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.960
<v Speaker 4>Always the term unpleasant existent?

994
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:23.559
<v Speaker 1>It's like I insist, No, I insist, I insist, But

995
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 1>it's tongues.

996
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. It's not sexy and it's used

997
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>too much.

998
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.280
<v Speaker 3>You know what other phrase I can't stand. I think

999
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I read it in this book, but I'm not one

1000
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 3>hundred person I'm sure is the I feel's just give

1001
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.199
<v Speaker 3>it credit to this book. The he said not unkindly,

1002
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 3>just like stop, just say how like not he said

1003
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 3>not unkindly, Like how do you say it rude? Like nice? Friendly?

1004
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 3>That phrasing is the same. It's like I padded down

1005
00:53:56.159 --> 00:54:01.960
<v Speaker 3>the hallway is another one. This book had a lot

1006
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 3>of like weird little like.

1007
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 2>That, Like yeah, I just there wasn't a lot good

1008
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 2>in this book. There was no good tension. I didn't

1009
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:17.519
<v Speaker 2>care about any of the characters.

1010
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.559
<v Speaker 4>Just was it longer? Did you just feel long?

1011
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was actually long, so I think

1012
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:23.559
<v Speaker 2>it felt long, okay.

1013
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Daphane eventually gets to the point or or Amber gets

1014
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.159
<v Speaker 1>to the point where she convinces him to divorce Daphne,

1015
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and then Daphne's like, ha ha, I know you're trying

1016
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.559
<v Speaker 1>to marry a woman who's should be in jail. So

1017
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I give me money and let me go to California

1018
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>or else.

1019
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Which she went to. I she moved to.

1020
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 1>She moved her two girls to so cal and then

1021
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>was like telling them it's okay, they don't have to

1022
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 1>worry about being thin. Ever it again, and I just

1023
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:56.679
<v Speaker 1>like in my head, I was like, why did you

1024
00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Why did you move to so Cal.

1025
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I just move a little further east.

1026
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I think that wasn't the right place for you.

1027
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 4>But okay, I'm gonna say something. Oh yeah, So so

1028
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:16.639
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't a twist to find out the daph and

1029
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 4>he actually had a bad life. And then I don't

1030
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:24.199
<v Speaker 4>think it's fair to call it a twist when we

1031
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 4>learn about what Amber did.

1032
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh at the very end, it was so stupid.

1033
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 1>What it felt like was they had this big Okay,

1034
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.960
<v Speaker 1>so first of all, Amber gets her way, she gets married,

1035
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 1>but then because Jackson finds out about who she really is,

1036
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 1>he starts abusing her.

1037
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.159
<v Speaker 2>But I guess we can assume he was gonna do

1038
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:45.719
<v Speaker 2>that anyway.

1039
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 4>I was surprised it took it.

1040
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>It took up. Yeah, that's why I was saying.

1041
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I was still helping for my happy ending between the

1042
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 1>two of them.

1043
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.039
<v Speaker 2>But no, it's just he just is.

1044
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Also it's just like you're abusing someone else. Yay, we

1045
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to say. But she comes at the end

1046
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 1>to like be like I knew, to kind of be

1047
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:09.119
<v Speaker 1>like say her peace and be like I you thought

1048
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I was your friend, I wasn't. I was onto you

1049
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.280
<v Speaker 1>even though it was Stephanie. Daphne was not onto her

1050
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.239
<v Speaker 1>until like way later, a.

1051
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Long time to be on her.

1052
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it was way it was way Oh god,

1053
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:21.480
<v Speaker 2>what do we I don't even know.

1054
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 4>Just and and I think that people say when there's twists, twists,

1055
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I think this is supposed to count as one.

1056
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1057
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 4>They just like blurred out at the end that what

1058
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 4>Amber did before she like left town and decided.

1059
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Right right, So why was Amber? Why did Amber run away? Well,

1060
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 1>apparently there was some rich boy who.

1061
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:42.639
<v Speaker 2>They were having.

1062
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.800
<v Speaker 1>She lied and said he raped her, and then he

1063
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:49.599
<v Speaker 1>went to prison, and then he's now like then I

1064
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>guess he got beaten up in prison and now he's

1065
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:52.960
<v Speaker 1>paraplegic or something.

1066
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Is that what it was?

1067
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Which exactly?

1068
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I just want to say, like, you can

1069
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:01.079
<v Speaker 3>never have too many fake reports of rape in books

1070
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 3>by authors. Yeah, I know, also not very churning those

1071
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.639
<v Speaker 3>out as many as not very feminist, but also.

1072
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm sorry, but Daphne was trying to be like,

1073
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't even feel bad he's paraplegic. I'm like, well,

1074
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>she did not make him paraplegic. I'm sorry that happened

1075
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.039
<v Speaker 1>in jail, but like it's she did some shitty stuff,

1076
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 1>but it's crazy to blame him her for that. That

1077
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen to everyone in jail. That's not like common.

1078
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a very incompetated happen.

1079
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but in the outrage and the surprise is like

1080
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.199
<v Speaker 4>you've been through so much, you have me.

1081
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:38.639
<v Speaker 1>And also what it felt like is that the authors

1082
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 1>got to this point and they were like, wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait,

1083
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:42.920
<v Speaker 1>wait Live what.

1084
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Are their names? Live?

1085
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>And no?

1086
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Lynn and uh Gallery and Lynn Valley.

1087
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 1>They were like, Lynn was like, wait, is it bad

1088
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:55.639
<v Speaker 1>that we made the hero of this book wins by

1089
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:57.559
<v Speaker 1>having another woman abused?

1090
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that bad? And they were like, oh, yeah, maybe that,

1091
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:02.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe that does look bad.

1092
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, We'll just say a bunch of horrible

1093
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>ship that she did at the very end and justifies,

1094
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything that she did to her.

1095
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.599
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't. It just feels

1096
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 2>like you're listening ship.

1097
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:20.840
<v Speaker 1>She just just like listening things and allowing an Amber

1098
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.360
<v Speaker 1>was just like so what, I don't care, which was

1099
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 1>also a weird response to have, like why are you

1100
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 1>admitting things to this woman who said whatever?

1101
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:34.639
<v Speaker 3>It didn't make any sense. It's I'm starting to believe.

1102
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.920
<v Speaker 3>What if one of the sisters is like a really

1103
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:42.800
<v Speaker 3>insane bad is just always frantically trying to make sense

1104
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 3>of the plot. It is just cleaning things up.

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00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:48.039
<v Speaker 2>So do I sell it? How do I sell it? Hey?

1106
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll get the right, the first, right, the second. Yeah,

1107
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 3>you you started off, I'll land it home. My god, here,

1108
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 3>let's uh, let's play the uh the lamb Constantine writing exercise.

1109
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I'll start the sentence and you'll have to fix it. Okay, ruby,

1110
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 3>red and glistening. Comma, gun, she said, Comma.

1111
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:38.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm listening, gun, she said under her breath. She licked

1112
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 4>her lips again.

1113
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, oh no, oh no, wait, I'm the

1114
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:49.320
<v Speaker 2>This is an odd shade for a cherry lollipop.

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00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, let me play one.

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<v Speaker 1>The bitch wouldn't stop with her lower lip quick, he thought.

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01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 3>As he checked himself in to a rehab program, realizing

1118
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:14.679
<v Speaker 3>that he had finally hit rock bottom and it wasn't

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01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.239
<v Speaker 3>safe for him to be around people anymore.

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01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was setting up. I thought Clara would

1121
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>come in with the dog, but it did happen.

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01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:30.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I want a crazy backup the rehabit.

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01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, crazy.

1124
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:38.480
<v Speaker 4>It was rehab for his knee from a tennis injury.

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01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 4>He wished he could have sprung on her sooner for

1126
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.679
<v Speaker 4>that stupid lip nonsense.

1127
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.440
<v Speaker 2>But his knee, goddamn knee.

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01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.119
<v Speaker 4>That's a fun game. I have another. I have an

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01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 4>answer as the author if we want.

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01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:58.079
<v Speaker 3>To oh please, oh yeah, why not take me there?

1131
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:04.960
<v Speaker 4>It's a little unusual, okay. So this magazine that interviewed her,

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01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Internet magazine that interviewed her has a thing where when

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01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:13.400
<v Speaker 4>they interview an author, the author gets to ask readers

1134
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 4>a question and then you readers submit answers and they

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01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 4>choose one and you get a signed copy of the book.

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01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:27.880
<v Speaker 4>And so this Lynn was the one they interviewed. And Lynn,

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01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:31.119
<v Speaker 4>you get to to ask a question to our readers.

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01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.239
<v Speaker 4>It can be anything you want. Do you guys want

1139
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:36.679
<v Speaker 4>to be Lynn and have a question for our readers

1140
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:38.599
<v Speaker 4>to write in to try to win your book?

1141
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Do your readers? Not that it's a competition, but who

1142
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 3>do you think is the prettier sister XL live? But

1143
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:56.880
<v Speaker 3>she writes live and question in parentheses or quotation marks,

1144
01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:58.199
<v Speaker 3>so we don't know which sister does.

1145
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:00.840
<v Speaker 4>That's very funny. That's very funny.

1146
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not correct, dear reader, what's a what's a way

1147
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 1>to make a rich woman likable?

1148
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:18.960
<v Speaker 4>That's a hard one. That's a hard one.

1149
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:27.440
<v Speaker 6>Somebody wrote back, process, then a copy and pasted add

1150
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 6>into my email to my other sister.

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01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 4>This was Lynn's question. If someone gave you a gift

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01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:38.440
<v Speaker 4>card in the amount of twenty thousand dollars for any

1153
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:42.199
<v Speaker 4>designer store, which store would you pick? And what would

1154
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:42.719
<v Speaker 4>you buy?

1155
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:44.360
<v Speaker 2>This was research for the book.

1156
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Which store would you pick?

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01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:47.199
<v Speaker 2>And why not?

1158
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:47.760
<v Speaker 1>And why?

1159
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And what would you buy?

1160
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Like that is She's.

1161
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.119
<v Speaker 3>That's a gross question.

1162
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:55.880
<v Speaker 4>That's such a boring question.

1163
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I have to imagine she was doing research for this

1164
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 1>book because there's so many dumb specifics.

1165
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 4>I just think she's such a bad writer. She could

1166
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.280
<v Speaker 4>not think of an interesting question, and she like tried

1167
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.159
<v Speaker 4>to think of like if you had a million wishes,

1168
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:08.960
<v Speaker 4>what would you wish for?

1169
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 2>But she like women, what are women?

1170
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:11.960
<v Speaker 4>Like?

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01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm actually shocked that this is two females.

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01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.000
<v Speaker 1>When you say that, I'm like, this feels like a

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01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 1>male pretending to be a female when you say things like.

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01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.360
<v Speaker 4>This, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.199
<v Speaker 3>My response as a reader would be like, dear Lynn,

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01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 3>when you said gift card and the number twenty thousand dollars.

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01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Of course, tim mind raced with possibilities. There could not

1178
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.400
<v Speaker 3>have been a more disappointing finish to that sense than

1179
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:38.519
<v Speaker 3>for which designer store?

1180
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Where was val Or Victoria? I can't remember.

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01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 3>The only thing I could do with that would be

1182
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:48.159
<v Speaker 3>to buy something that was as resellable as possible. Yeah,

1183
01:03:48.599 --> 01:03:51.440
<v Speaker 3>so I could put it on eBay, resell it, and

1184
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.639
<v Speaker 3>then use the twenty thousand dollars to buy a house.

1185
01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 4>And like, it's just it's such a bad question for

1186
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:02.800
<v Speaker 4>like we're going to pick the best answer to give

1187
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 4>them a prize. It's like all the answers will be

1188
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:05.719
<v Speaker 4>exactly the same.

1189
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.360
<v Speaker 1>How, yeah, how do you decide? I would love to

1190
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:10.039
<v Speaker 1>know did they have a best answer?

1191
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Was it was that right?

1192
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:14.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, I maybe they just picked

1194
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.800
<v Speaker 4>a random one because all the answers are the same,

1195
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.840
<v Speaker 4>because you can only answer clothes or maybe jewelry.

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01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I just want to know how you win that. I

1197
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:25.559
<v Speaker 2>want to know you win it. That's my favorite store

1198
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's my favorite thing you win, Like what right?

1199
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.880
<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe it's just a random whatever, yeah, random from participants.

1201
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I have to be like I love your jokey question.

1202
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're who were you making fun of? It's like

1203
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:46.800
<v Speaker 4>she thinks her audience would. She's like, my audience is

1204
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:52.360
<v Speaker 4>rich women, right, and I'm fun And what's like it's

1205
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.719
<v Speaker 4>barely a hypothetical. It's so boring. She's just it just

1206
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:58.960
<v Speaker 4>shows like that she's the bad writer sister, like she

1207
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:04.079
<v Speaker 4>has to show Okay, so imaginative. It's so bad. But

1208
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:07.119
<v Speaker 4>I thought it would be a fun unusual answer as

1209
01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:07.519
<v Speaker 4>the author.

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01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

1211
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Netflix has it for a movie adaptation now, okay, but

1212
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:16.039
<v Speaker 1>we don't know if it's gonna happen.

1213
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Is I just can't. I don't see how this is

1214
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:18.800
<v Speaker 2>any good.

1215
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they could rewrite it, yeah, I guess, but

1216
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.599
<v Speaker 1>they already did, didn't what's her face? We wrote it

1217
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for The Housemaiden. I do think it was an improvement.

1218
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I even I think that that book was crazy, but

1219
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the same.

1220
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Like it was better.

1221
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It was way better.

1222
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it addressed the It had a character being like,

1223
01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:44.079
<v Speaker 4>you can't just swap with another woman because now the

1224
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:44.519
<v Speaker 4>other one.

1225
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got together at the end. Yeah, it felt

1226
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:50.679
<v Speaker 2>it was the last.

1227
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.800
<v Speaker 3>It was written second, so it was you know, so

1228
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.199
<v Speaker 3>they had time. Yeah.

1229
01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:59.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but to be able to recognize mistakes.

1230
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 3>They grew, they grew. It was brave.

1231
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Do you guys want to move on to the hates

1232
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 4>and all that, or no, we need to do good reads?

1233
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, let's move on to the boasts and then

1234
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 3>we'll get to our roasts, okay, and then we'll roast

1235
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.079
<v Speaker 3>each other, and then we'll boast each other and then.

1236
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:33.800
<v Speaker 4>We'll I don't want to be a part of the cast, Claire,

1237
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:36.840
<v Speaker 4>I know that, Jonah, I feel like you feel very

1238
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:37.679
<v Speaker 4>good about Clara.

1239
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, did you get do you have the good reeds

1240
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:41.840
<v Speaker 2>for that?

1241
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:44.039
<v Speaker 4>Okay? Forgot?

1242
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's all right.

1243
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, usually used to do it all, so I don't

1244
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:48.920
<v Speaker 1>know that.

1245
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, yeah, I don't know.

1246
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You're right, it's we're inconsistent. It was just like the

1247
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:56.679
<v Speaker 1>producer doesn't now. But it's mostly because I don't want to.

1248
01:06:57.159 --> 01:06:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Here you go.

1249
01:06:57.719 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Beth more Ban says this was a wild ride, also

1250
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 1>good for her. Clap Clap, clap, five stars.

1251
01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:11.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know was it clap emoji or did she

1252
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:14.280
<v Speaker 3>write out there no, sorry it was that clap emoji.

1253
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wouldn't.

1254
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it makes me respect it less.

1255
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Here here Danielle says, Wow, Wow, Wow. This was an

1256
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:26.400
<v Speaker 1>intense read, scandalized deception with a twist. I couldn't stop

1257
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.760
<v Speaker 1>listening to this one. It is definitely an adult book,

1258
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:31.679
<v Speaker 1>reminiscent of basic instinct.

1259
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:33.679
<v Speaker 2>I had to know how it ended.

1260
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not often that I find a book that I

1261
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:39.159
<v Speaker 1>simply cannot put down, but this one was definitely that.

1262
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Therefore it gets five stars. I have a lot of

1263
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.400
<v Speaker 2>questions for Danielle. Do you often not.

1264
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:50.239
<v Speaker 1>You often can't finish books? It feels like she's inferrying

1265
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.719
<v Speaker 1>that she does. She gives up on books a lot.

1266
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:56.519
<v Speaker 4>No, Well, I don't know why she wouldn't give up

1267
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:57.960
<v Speaker 4>on this one. I don't understand.

1268
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't it's definitely an adult book. What do you think?

1269
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Did you think this was a Did you go into

1270
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:05.920
<v Speaker 1>this thinking it was a teenage I don't understand.

1271
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:10.199
<v Speaker 3>That's her way of saying the book has the book

1272
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 3>has rape in it. The way she hit it was like,

1273
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what, it's adult.

1274
01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd be a little.

1275
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 3>More clear, because that means so many different things.

1276
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 4>You love domestic, definitely adult.

1277
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.720
<v Speaker 3>It's like the way my mom would have described The

1278
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Wolf of Wall Street famously at the It's day had

1279
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 3>like the most f words in any movie ever created.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fun, it was adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sin.

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<v Speaker 3>What can one say?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't need anything, I don't have anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Janelle Janssen says, review to come six years ago, five stars.

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<v Speaker 2>You've had said rebewn to cup six years ago, it's

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<v Speaker 2>never coming. But she gave it five.

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<v Speaker 4>Stars, but she doesn't have time to say why. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>just trust her on this one. I'm ready with my

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<v Speaker 4>hate rates. You're out of five. Fuck this the long Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe everyone's an asshole?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You can to write a character that hates rich people

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<v Speaker 4>and I would be so annoying. It's like, come on,

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<v Speaker 4>more bad things about rich people. Can't we all hate

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<v Speaker 4>rich people together? You make me want to defend them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what are you breaking my brain?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was so one dimensional. I also, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give it a one out of five. I agree it

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<v Speaker 1>was there's not really much to like. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of setup excites you, read The Housemaid or

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<v Speaker 1>probably fifty other books that do the same thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah, there was nothing likable about it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have finished it if I didn't have to for

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<v Speaker 1>his book club.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving it one point lower than whatever I gave

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<v Speaker 3>The Housemaid. And I don't have access to that information

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<v Speaker 3>yet to get better, Blake, maybe you do. Uh So whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>that number was minus one. And I know that's not

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<v Speaker 3>fair because this book was written first, but unfortunately for

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<v Speaker 3>the authors, I did read it second, and that made

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<v Speaker 3>me more mad that I was reading a book I

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<v Speaker 3>hate it already a second time. It was like I

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<v Speaker 3>had to reread The Housemaid. Can you imagine? But it's

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<v Speaker 3>like I have to read books. Yeah, that's bad. It's

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<v Speaker 3>bad that you would do that to me. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 3>if I had to guess, I gave The Housemaid, uh two,

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<v Speaker 3>so this is probably one?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably one?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Uh yeah, maybe I'm going to change it

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<v Speaker 1>to zero because this isn't a New York Times bestseller.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna change it to a zero because like

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<v Speaker 1>because of the shame it brought me with how I

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<v Speaker 1>re extra research I thought I did.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, honestly, really embarrassing, sir, It's really embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 4>he wrote back to her.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me it wasn't said no, actually it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you actually lead her.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually and all of us. Okay, no you you

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01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:27.199
<v Speaker 2>none of you?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna do hate rates. Are we all just

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<v Speaker 3>saying Molly? Do I have to be the first to

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<v Speaker 3>say it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or sure?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like, who wants to start.

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<v Speaker 2>The cast?

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<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna We're gonna shift blame to Molly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think makes the most sense.

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<v Speaker 4>We can either turn on Johanna right now or all

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<v Speaker 4>get on board with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we need to be an agreement. Guys support

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<v Speaker 3>other women with me.

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<v Speaker 4>Molly called us parasocial, and if we're really friends, I

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<v Speaker 4>would turn on her. If I'm treating her like a guest,

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01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 4>then I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Molly really friends? Mollie, we're friends?

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<v Speaker 1>When I say back to you, no, it actually is

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times a seller, I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>argue with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to say, listen, bitch, I said what

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<v Speaker 2>I said. You're wrong. I'm right. I needed that from you.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed that radical honesty from you, my parasocial friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did not get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Molly, you emailed me. I never responded back, and then

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01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I never got a follow up any kind I never

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<v Speaker 3>got like, hey, bitch, did you read my email? And

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<v Speaker 3>you know for that, you're my little fucker, Molly.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had the recommender of the little fucker, Molly.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a New York Times bestseller, which just makes

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<v Speaker 4>it worse.

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01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:06.119
<v Speaker 3>Makes it worse the number of times, say you had

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<v Speaker 3>three times in the email, we still missed it. How

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<v Speaker 3>dare you?

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01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:13.479
<v Speaker 1>You said it so many times? I couldn't believe it,

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01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I said, she must. Oh my god, wow, I totally

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<v Speaker 1>like ambered you.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know it's my favorite, Molly, but it's funny

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01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:28.359
<v Speaker 4>to turn it my little.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucker all right now, it's what pretty princess, and it's Clara.

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<v Speaker 4>Clara Princess ever to live? Okay, moving right along, What

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<v Speaker 4>do we do now? Is that the end? I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like there's another part right well?

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<v Speaker 3>We are mean booked you book by cover you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I don't have.

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<v Speaker 4>The covert either.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably I'll go pull it up right now.

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01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:55.319
<v Speaker 4>I can look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks better. It's it's how I expect it. It

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01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.159
<v Speaker 1>looks better than the book. It looks better than the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty cool. There's a diamond for some reason. I guess

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01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:06.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the religion. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Mine is like a person on a dock with a

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<v Speaker 4>very large hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yours is different, and.

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01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.159
<v Speaker 3>God, it makes me want to read it by a pool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking at something.

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<v Speaker 4>With It doesn't happen in the book. Nobody sits on

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<v Speaker 4>a dock and.

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01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 5>Realize it's kind of The one I'm looking at is

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01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:28.399
<v Speaker 5>like dark with orangey bronze font that's confusing because they're

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01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:30.720
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of like bronze lines going through it. So

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01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:34.000
<v Speaker 5>you could read the last Missus Parish, but you could

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<v Speaker 5>also read the last m PS Popish.

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<v Speaker 2>Something you could read because it's a little confusing.

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<v Speaker 4>So it doesn't even cover.

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<v Speaker 3>Why does the book get to have three different covers,

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01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:53.119
<v Speaker 3>like actually four different covers. It just seems like bullshit,

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01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Like you get picked one cover and you can have

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<v Speaker 3>another one. If you write another book, then you get

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01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:57.920
<v Speaker 3>to have another cover.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are the rules.

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01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, have a million covers. It makes me mad. Judge

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01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:03.680
<v Speaker 3>a book by its cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Zero for the.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, please uh please subscribe, Please rate us, give

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01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:15.800
<v Speaker 1>us five stars, and then you can trash us.

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01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:19.279
<v Speaker 3>We don't care you said about me last week.

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01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I do sort of care, alright, but I don't want to.

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01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I just want the five stars.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Okay, I want the five stars, but I

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01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:27.800
<v Speaker 4>also think we have a nice cast.

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01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:34.279
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like someone kind of trashed me last week,

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01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and be fun if like everyone went after one other person.

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01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:39.359
<v Speaker 1>It was.

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01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:43.560
<v Speaker 4>It took the longest warm up to Johna.

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01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:47.479
<v Speaker 3>Each of you has earned a place in my heart.

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01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:53.880
<v Speaker 3>With Johanna being the slowest to do something with it

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01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:56.840
<v Speaker 3>was like with Johanna taking the longest.

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01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.039
<v Speaker 1>You, guys, please join our Patreon. Become a patron. You

1421
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:07.199
<v Speaker 1>can get these episodes without ads. Please send us your

1422
01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:11.520
<v Speaker 1>book wrecks and what are we reading next episode?

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01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Guys, Seven Husbands.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Evelyn Hugo.

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01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Evelyn Hugo. That's right, Yes, the segment always pops up

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01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:23.079
<v Speaker 3>on me, you know what I mean, I've never prepared for.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not gonna pick, not until we get to

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01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:27.479
<v Speaker 2>this point. Am I going to actually go find that book?

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01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not always an emergency?

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01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:31.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm excited for that one, and god damn it,

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01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and I really hope it's a New York Times bestseller,

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01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:40.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna check until right before all Right,

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01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:43.000
<v Speaker 1>let's go, we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>See, we'll see.

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01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll get joined by I don't know you know,

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01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:47.439
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna bring up Sabrina.

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01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just don't bring her up.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just don't.

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01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't bring her up. Nobody bring her up. Don't bring

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01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:58.359
<v Speaker 2>her up again. Okay, all right, we'll see you next time, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye, bye, my thanks again.

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<v Speaker 4>She said that, dripping with sarcasm.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, Ka