Speaker 1: So there was a lot of insistent tongues, as we're
Speaker 1: aware of, and I'm always like, what are these tongues?
Speaker 2: What are they insisting?
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, we both read systic fibrosis weekly. That's
Speaker 3: so cool.
Speaker 1: Married and trapped with a sociopath.
Speaker 4: This could have been an interesting thing to explore in the.
Speaker 3: Book, but it wasn't Doggie style for a girl missionary
Speaker 3: for a voids such a science.
Speaker 1: So this is an unlikable character because of how dumb
Speaker 1: they are.
Speaker 3: Again, any character that wants to die in this book,
Speaker 3: feel free go buy me.
Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Mean book Club. This
Speaker 1: week we read The Last Missus Parish by Live Constantine.
Speaker 2: Don't Don't.
Speaker 3: I also want to go ahead and welcome new listeners.
Speaker 3: You know I'm back.
Speaker 1: Hello, if you're new, Hello, we are me book Club.
Speaker 1: We read our Times bestsellers that we think maybe shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: We get recommendations from listeners, fans books they might have
Speaker 1: done for their book clubs.
Speaker 3: That they were like our mom in laws sometimes our laws.
Speaker 1: Books that basically maybe everyone else in your book club
Speaker 1: was like I love it and you were like what.
Speaker 1: And we talk about them, we roast them. And sometimes
Speaker 1: we boast them because sometimes we love them, you know.
Speaker 4: Not all of us almost almost, don't. I don't that's fair, easily,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: Is that a saying should I know this? Or is
Speaker 3: this another thing that you kind of made up? Sir?
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I would say I made it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we roast before, we roasted before you know it?
Speaker 3: Okay, we could definitely say it could be something we say.
Speaker 2: I like that, all right. Oh wow, I wasn't expecting this.
Speaker 3: Is this a roast or listen?
Speaker 4: I don't know that it needs to become a part
Speaker 4: of the podcast.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 4: I thought it's fine for now. I thought it's fine
Speaker 4: for now.
Speaker 3: Like judge a book by its cover.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's just like, are we going to start boasting books?
Speaker 4: What's the point of the podcast at that point? You
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: Right? Sure? As always, we are your hosts. I'm Sarah Burton.
Speaker 3: I'm Clara Morris, and I'm Jonas Crabis.
Speaker 2: And moment of silence for our fourth member, who is
Speaker 2: again very.
Speaker 3: Busy drowning in work. But she does say things like
Speaker 3: when she answers our text, which is not all the time.
Speaker 3: She does say things like I miss you guys. I
Speaker 3: love the podcast. She recently said, Yeah, she was trying
Speaker 3: to like build her life around the podcast in a
Speaker 3: way that concerned me. For her, I said, important.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we should encourage it, though it happens.
Speaker 4: What happens when she doesn't.
Speaker 3: Right here, we are looking like life dicis.
Speaker 4: Life decisions should include Meme book Club. And that's for us,
Speaker 4: and that's for the listeners, and and that's for the listeners. Friends.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I feel like being missing Sabrina.
Speaker 1: We're missing our main boaster and let we I think
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Speaker 4: We can admit easy.
Speaker 3: You know who else I wanted to just shout out
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Speaker 3: Feel about zeus though I don't know. I have mixed feelings.
Speaker 1: Oh you're right, well yeah, all right, all right.
Speaker 4: Let's get into why we're reading this book.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, Claia, Why are we reading this book?
Speaker 4: All right? This was recommended to us by a listener
Speaker 4: named Mollie. She wrote in she said, hello, parasocial friends.
Speaker 4: Longtime listener, first time writer. The book I'm dying for
Speaker 4: you to read is The Last Missus Parish by Live Constantine.
Speaker 4: The audiobook is especially egregious, as the character representation is
Speaker 4: so entirely unlikable.
Speaker 2: This is accurate.
Speaker 4: The book jacket claims shocking turns and dark secrets that
Speaker 4: will keep you guessing until the very end. The Last
Speaker 4: Missus Parish is a fresh, juicy, and utterly addictive thriller
Speaker 4: from a diabolically imaginative talent. This is all a lie.
Speaker 4: It hurt my ears. I hated every character. I cheered
Speaker 4: for no One. Thank you. I love I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2: Molly, Mollie. Accurate, very accurate.
Speaker 3: I cheered for no One is such a good line
Speaker 3: and it You know a book is hateful when you're
Speaker 3: feeling that way, when you're waiting for like when you're hoping, like,
Speaker 3: I hope this character gets hit by a tractor and
Speaker 3: they bleed.
Speaker 4: Out, and it could be any of the characters.
Speaker 3: Any one of them. Right now, let's see it.
Speaker 1: Casualties. Uh yeah it uh yeah, accurate. She got us
Speaker 1: with it the shocking terms, keeping you guessing until the end,
Speaker 1: and well I'm already like.
Speaker 2: Wait, what were those in the first chapter? There was
Speaker 2: no thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, it's like, have you ever seen what's the
Speaker 3: Matt Davin movie? The classically? If you've ever seen the
Speaker 3: talented mister Ripley, it's like, cool, here it is, but a.
Speaker 2: Girl, I guess. I think it's way worse than that.
Speaker 2: It's worse, but like this, like, let me take that
Speaker 2: but make it worse.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it doesn't matter about the gender. It's just worse, worse,
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 2: How did you guys read it?
Speaker 4: Audible audiobook? I cannot get these. These are too popular
Speaker 4: for the library these days.
Speaker 2: Gang, this isn't even a recent one.
Speaker 1: I I also did audiobook dot com but uh.
Speaker 3: SAME's And I hate to do it. I really hate
Speaker 3: to be spending a lot of money this season, and
Speaker 3: it's going to very bad people. But you know, I'm
Speaker 3: still yees to live, but as you guys are, I'm
Speaker 3: stall on the outs with the library. I'm holding on
Speaker 3: to quite a few books from a few months ago.
Speaker 3: One is still missing somewhere in Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 1: So right right, right, right right, and you'll never get
Speaker 1: that back. You could buy a new book and return
Speaker 1: and say, hey, all right, this is the book I lost.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's how it works. They're gonna be like,
Speaker 3: we're all our special library tags.
Speaker 4: And they'll know, but maybe they'll forgive you.
Speaker 3: I would love that if they'll just forgive me. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I yeah, I feel like they'll just be
Speaker 3: so mad if I try to pass a fake one off,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, somebody else's dog,
Speaker 3: but like not giving them the their dog.
Speaker 4: But I don't think I think that that's an extremely
Speaker 4: I think you're making yourself feel worse than you need to.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like I killed their dog and now desperately searching
Speaker 3: the pound for.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go ahead, improvement.
Speaker 2: Really all right?
Speaker 1: Well, uh, I think it's time for Clara clarifies the plot.
Speaker 4: Clara classes it up with the summer.
Speaker 2: Remember I tried, I tried it. I tried to.
Speaker 4: Ted an Amber a Daphne a Jackson, and then I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be the two little girls because just one lune each.
Speaker 3: I love it. I'll be Daphne.
Speaker 2: You're Daphne, I'll be Amber.
Speaker 4: Would anyone like to double up and be Jackson as well?
Speaker 2: I'll do Jackson?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, all right?
Speaker 4: Are you ready?
Speaker 3: Yeahdi action.
Speaker 1: I'm evil and poor. Who's the richest man in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: I'm going to befriend his wife and then still him.
Speaker 1: I have talent. I can look ugly when I'm friends
Speaker 1: with his wife and hot later during husband's stealing time.
Speaker 3: I know our marriage looks perfect, but it's actually abusive. Also,
Speaker 3: my sister died, and my abusive husband is kind of right.
Speaker 3: I need to shut up about that.
Speaker 1: There we'll be sex scenes in this.
Speaker 2: Book, but they will be horrible rape.
Speaker 1: I'm bad, I have dark hair, I look like the guy,
Speaker 1: and it ends with us.
Speaker 2: Clara is pretty sure.
Speaker 4: I'm Tallula, I'm the daughter who likes to read. I'm Bella.
Speaker 4: I'm the daughter who can't read. That's why I'm so unpleasant.
Speaker 3: Amber also has a dead sister.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 1: Sure you can have a friend even though I'm extremely
Speaker 1: controlling in every other way, Amber is sketchy.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, what if I make Jackson fall for
Speaker 3: her and divorce me and abuse her instead of me?
Speaker 3: I know that makes me seem evil, but Amber deserves
Speaker 3: it because she is bad in her own way the end,
Speaker 3: and that is accurate.
Speaker 2: That is accurate.
Speaker 4: Yes, I couldn't stop imagining Jackson as the main character
Speaker 4: from the main character man Room. It ends with us
Speaker 4: because he was described as like dark hair. I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: got it, that's the guy.
Speaker 3: It's crazy too that, like I have read this exact
Speaker 3: plot before.
Speaker 2: We have, we have, we have, I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember if it was for Mean book Club
Speaker 3: or if it was one of my.
Speaker 2: Pri It was definitely maybe at all, so it was
Speaker 2: part of it.
Speaker 1: We definitely did Mean book Club. To be fair, I
Speaker 1: believe this one can't. Was the house the Housemaid? Well,
Speaker 1: we can definitely talk about the house Maid in comparison,
Speaker 1: but I will this one did come out first, but
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's not going to sway anything. I have to say, Johnna.
Speaker 1: Johnny got any jugs to go along with this, So
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 3: Say A nice white wine sath Blanc is the drink
Speaker 3: to pair with this like one hundred billion percent the
Speaker 3: other thing, I'd go ahead and pair. If anyone is
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, go ahead and walk yourself down to Brooklyn
Speaker 3: Far Parmacy on on Henry Street. You're gonna go ahead
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get yourself I'm sorry, is it Clara's
Speaker 3: jogs or is it jobs?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just it's supposed to be related to the book,
Speaker 4: and I think you might just be telling us about
Speaker 4: what you're eating right now.
Speaker 3: This is not Clara's quampers. This is John's jacks.
Speaker 4: Are you free claws.
Speaker 2: For Seward?
Speaker 3: So you can also go ahead right on down Brooklyn Pharmacy.
Speaker 3: You're gonna go ahead and you're gonna get yourself a
Speaker 3: frozen hot chocolate and you're gonna go ahead and have
Speaker 3: the best thing you've ever had in your life.
Speaker 2: And so we had an alcohol to it.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Bailey's there you go. Yes, Bailey's is
Speaker 3: so good. It's too bad it's a seasonal.
Speaker 2: You know says it.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't be you know whoa you could design a whole
Speaker 3: personality around being someone who drinks Bailey. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 3: it either a frozen ho show with some Bailey's if
Speaker 3: you're a freak like me, or definitely a nice light
Speaker 3: white wine.
Speaker 2: All right, but up.
Speaker 1: I know they probably named a bunch of brands of
Speaker 1: white wines that are super expensive in this book, but
Speaker 1: I don't care to look that up or share that
Speaker 1: with you. All right, Clara, let's talk about the author,
Speaker 1: Live Constantine.
Speaker 3: Josh was one of them. Right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't sad because that's not that expensive, I know,
Speaker 1: But you know what, Yeah, Clara, what tell us about
Speaker 1: the author?
Speaker 4: All right? Our author is named Live Constantine. And here's
Speaker 4: the little interesting twist. It's actually two people.
Speaker 2: Better twist than the book.
Speaker 4: Constantine is a pen name of two sisters, Lynn Constantine
Speaker 4: and Valerie Constantine. You put Lynn together with Valerie, you
Speaker 4: get Live Okay. So Lynn is a former marketing executive
Speaker 4: with a master's degree from John Hart. Valerie has a
Speaker 4: degree in English literature from the University.
Speaker 2: Of mary Hey, where.
Speaker 4: She graduated summa cum lade JOHNA. This is for you.
Speaker 4: They both like dogs. Here's a little excerpt from their
Speaker 4: self written bios. When Lynn's not writing, you can find
Speaker 4: her curled up with her labrador and Golden Retreat.
Speaker 2: She went with basic is what I'm getting from that?
Speaker 4: And the other one the v name Valerie. She lives
Speaker 4: with her husband and their brilliant cavalier King Charles da Vinci.
Speaker 3: Oh, King Charles. The cavalier King Charles is brilliant. Yeah,
Speaker 3: met that kind of dog. They're sweet, but they're not brilliant.
Speaker 4: John is a little bit of a bias towards it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's coming out.
Speaker 4: I'll bring details. She was cool with Alphaie, but but
Speaker 4: she's got a little wise.
Speaker 3: I had to meet I had to meet a small dog,
Speaker 3: and once I did, I was like, Okay, now I understood.
Speaker 4: You meant the world best ever, So yes, I also
Speaker 4: doubt that this dog is brilliant to fuck off. How
Speaker 4: I can tell you a bit about how they write
Speaker 4: together because the Elle Lynn told the magazine about it.
Speaker 4: She said, Valerie and I speak every morning when we're
Speaker 4: in the midst of writing a new book. We decide
Speaker 4: on which scenes each will write, then go off and
Speaker 4: write individually. We then email the work to each other,
Speaker 4: edit in track changes, and return. Then we talk again
Speaker 4: to discuss what we've done. This goes on every day
Speaker 4: until we have the first draft, then we read through
Speaker 4: it and make notes, discuss again, and start all over again.
Speaker 4: By the time the book is finished, it's not uncommon
Speaker 4: for one sentence to have been written half by Valerie
Speaker 4: and half by me.
Speaker 2: But me and I wouldn't mock it.
Speaker 1: But I also like, deep, guys, we've been talking about
Speaker 1: writing a book for a while. Maybe we should adopt
Speaker 1: this plast plan.
Speaker 4: It just seems like, does no one know about Google docs?
Speaker 4: Stop emailing?
Speaker 2: Is fair? Fair? We should definitely do this.
Speaker 3: They didn't tract changes, so I think they are insane.
Speaker 1: You could do that on Microsoft Word and still be
Speaker 1: emailing it back and forth.
Speaker 4: Okay, ye, she's talking about emailing back and forth more than.
Speaker 1: They don't need to be doing that, And they don't
Speaker 1: need to be doing that, Yeah they need.
Speaker 4: I don't know, And I feel like someone else once
Speaker 4: didn't know about Google docs in like in a book.
Speaker 4: Oh it was a Curtis sitting filled when she wrote
Speaker 4: about the SNL book and she had people emailing sketches
Speaker 4: to each other. Okay, okay, all right, so now now
Speaker 4: we can talk about.
Speaker 2: The book a bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I have a big section you might notice in
Speaker 4: the outline sort of I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 4: And I need to tell you guys that I didn't
Speaker 4: read all of Molly's email to you in the beginning.
Speaker 2: I also saw that, but because you did not black.
Speaker 4: That, I edited. Oh okay, and I edited down. Yes,
Speaker 4: And then when I was speaking, I.
Speaker 1: Wow, so it's something else beyond them, what you've skipped over?
Speaker 2: I see? Okay, all right, this is incredible.
Speaker 4: Okay, this book is not a New York Times bestseller,
Speaker 4: and Molly was upfront with that, and we just ignored it.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 4: In her message before recommending the book, she wrote, this
Speaker 4: is what she wrote, hear me? What if it's not
Speaker 4: technically a New York Times bestseller? But because of its
Speaker 4: overall long game popularity, when the sequel came out, the
Speaker 4: equal became an instant New York Times bestseller. Therefore, the
Speaker 4: initial book spawned a New York Times bestseller, and so
Speaker 4: therefore could it be readable by the pod as a
Speaker 4: listener and a fan? I vote yes. Then, before her
Speaker 4: sign off, where she compliments us, she wrote, please read
Speaker 4: this New York Times best selling spawning book.
Speaker 2: I cannot spawn.
Speaker 4: I will never read it, and you can't just jump in.
Speaker 4: And it's hard to get new books. She made it
Speaker 4: very clear.
Speaker 1: Spawning best time, Spawning Book.
Speaker 3: I need to Okay, guys, here's what's going on.
Speaker 4: No, she didn't do anything wrong. She asked if it
Speaker 4: would count.
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, no way, you're tricking us now. You
Speaker 3: need to so you have to see you see how
Speaker 3: stupid we are. You're seeing it right now.
Speaker 1: No, No, you're not seeing how stupid we are because I'm
Speaker 1: looking at me in and I have an email reply
Speaker 1: to her wreck and I said, thank you for their wreck.
Speaker 1: It's in consideration for upcoming season.
Speaker 2: Lucky for you.
Speaker 1: We did find it on the New York Times bestseller list,
Speaker 1: so I must have founded on the New York Times.
Speaker 2: Miss culls for me to say that what.
Speaker 4: This is, I think you might have gotten mixed up.
Speaker 2: You think I got it right?
Speaker 4: I mean we can look again. Okay, okay, I can
Speaker 4: look again.
Speaker 2: But look, I don't think so I could be right.
Speaker 4: It was published in October twenty seventeen. It's a Reese's
Speaker 4: Book Club pick, and over a million copies have been sold.
Speaker 4: It's been published in thirty countries. Netflix has the movie rights,
Speaker 4: there's no cast yet. In twenty nineteen, Amazon was going
Speaker 4: to make it into a TV series, but they abandoned
Speaker 4: that plan, and now Netflix has it and they're going
Speaker 4: to make it into a movie.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Definitely not a bestseller. It says national bestseller, and then
Speaker 3: it has little.
Speaker 4: Yes it's not. I really don't think it is. Yet
Speaker 4: it doesn't. I mean, I've made a mistake last time,
Speaker 4: so I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I just think listeners are overestimating our intelligence.
Speaker 4: How so she could her options were to just not
Speaker 4: speak to us, because she made it very clear, and
Speaker 4: it was a question does this count? Like it was
Speaker 4: very clear.
Speaker 3: I think I think she needs to know.
Speaker 2: You're right, Clara, Clara, you're right about this. You are
Speaker 2: right this time. You are right. Well, I made a
Speaker 2: big mistake.
Speaker 1: It was the next I'm looking because I was the
Speaker 1: Next Missus Parish.
Speaker 3: And I so you can see a little bit of
Speaker 3: work was done in the sort of discovery phase. Why
Speaker 3: it was poor.
Speaker 1: And the Next Missus Parish are two similar titles to similar.
Speaker 4: I will blame the author, Yeah, I blame an author,
Speaker 4: but we can't blame that.
Speaker 2: It essentially would mean the same thing. It's very confused, and.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean why would like.
Speaker 4: Johnny you cannot blame purposely obfuscated.
Speaker 3: She hid it. It was a tiny, tiny prince. She
Speaker 3: barely said it three times.
Speaker 2: In her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess for future listeners. Three times, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It's not enough. You're the subject of your email needs
Speaker 3: to be not a New York Times bestseller. Don't read.
Speaker 2: This is on me. This one is completely on me.
Speaker 4: I have John or I could have glanced at the email,
Speaker 4: but I did.
Speaker 2: I did, and I.
Speaker 1: Read the email and I said, oh no, I looked
Speaker 1: up and it is the New York Parents orself. She
Speaker 1: just didn't know, And I should have trusted Molly.
Speaker 3: This is where I actually remember you saying that I do.
Speaker 3: I do, and I trusted Sarah, and I guess they'll
Speaker 3: like lesson learn. I shouldn't. I can't trust anybody. I
Speaker 3: can't trust anyone. What I do, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at you really with suspicion.
Speaker 4: Now you're just upset. You're lashing out because you feel
Speaker 4: like you made a mistake. So that's the information about
Speaker 4: the book. Has everyone recovered enough to move on?
Speaker 3: This is why people think that we're stupid.
Speaker 4: This is that have been once and it was really bad.
Speaker 4: And affected a lot of us.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's like once on fool me five. This is the
Speaker 3: fifth book in a row.
Speaker 1: This is so funny, Like just the link that I
Speaker 1: was like so camply, was like.
Speaker 2: She didn't do her research. I did it, and here's
Speaker 2: the here's the link, and it's.
Speaker 4: Both we're quite insulting to Molly in your own ways.
Speaker 4: Sarah thought she knew better saying.
Speaker 2: Better I did, oh mom.
Speaker 3: And I was stupid enough to blindly trust you, Molly,
Speaker 3: not not even read your email myself.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not begging any so I'm not pigging
Speaker 1: any books next season.
Speaker 2: I just have to come out say it. I have to.
Speaker 2: You can't have the I can't.
Speaker 1: I cannot have any culpability anymore when it comes to this.
Speaker 2: I have made this.
Speaker 3: So Sarah chose this entire season.
Speaker 1: Such colossal errors, and it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Sarah handpicked every booker and I think Serena and I
Speaker 3: like fought to make one change each and she was like,
Speaker 3: she was like, I don't know. I think the list
Speaker 3: I put together is really perfect, but like maybe we
Speaker 3: can change this one.
Speaker 1: God, I hope that the books we added are and
Speaker 1: also you know what, I'm not gonna you.
Speaker 2: Know what, at this point, I'm not going to look
Speaker 2: at it. I'm not going to double check it ahead.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a surprised because that's how we've
Speaker 1: been doing this whole season, and that's how we're going
Speaker 1: to continue to roll.
Speaker 4: You know what, did you guys like how I had
Speaker 4: it all blacked out and I held it off?
Speaker 2: I guess you know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was a good had it been maybe
Speaker 1: had you found this out like a week ago, I.
Speaker 2: Would have liked to know. Oh no, okay, Okay, then
Speaker 2: then it's great because.
Speaker 1: I already read the book. But a a week ago
Speaker 1: it could have been stopped.
Speaker 2: I yeah, this is this is what's happening.
Speaker 1: It is as our guess, even Unblatt, it's as book.
Speaker 2: It is a popular book.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm like, just highlight it. Oh okay, I'm okay, Yes,
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 3: No the episodes over. Why are you continuing? It's on
Speaker 3: New York Times.
Speaker 4: Have you guys recovered? You talk about the character.
Speaker 3: It's time to say good night. There's no recovering.
Speaker 4: I'll go right to sleep. Here are some of our
Speaker 4: characters are like the first half of the book, which
Speaker 4: it seems like it's maybe more than half because it
Speaker 4: seems like it goes on for so long. It's from
Speaker 4: the point of view of someone called Amber, and we
Speaker 4: know that she is manipulating. She's mister ripley ing things.
Speaker 4: She's manipulating the rich wife to steal the rich husband.
Speaker 4: We don't really know what why, other than greed, but
Speaker 4: she seems to be. She alludes to her past every
Speaker 4: now and then she's done something bad. We don't know
Speaker 4: what it is. Is she really hates rich people to
Speaker 4: the extent that it like makes you kind of want
Speaker 4: to defend rich people too much.
Speaker 3: It's a rare Yeah, she is.
Speaker 1: It's not like she hates rich people. She also like
Speaker 1: wants to be a rich person. It's a kind of
Speaker 1: like it's just a confusing perspective. It's like it needs
Speaker 1: more texture because like, to hate rich people as much,
Speaker 1: you didn't want to take them down, I understand, but
Speaker 1: to want to become what you hate is like this
Speaker 1: requires some sort of psychological explanation that we are never given.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it'd be very interesting to learn more about Amber. Basically,
Speaker 3: we just know she's jealous of Daphne being glamorous. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we do need to talk about the cystic fibrocious link
Speaker 3: because it's very okay how she infiltrates Daphanie's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, so Defnie is the rich wife. She
Speaker 4: runs a foundation for sistic fibrosis because her sister died
Speaker 4: from that when they were kids.
Speaker 2: Yes, and.
Speaker 3: Amber's like reading a cystic fibrosis magazine and like opens
Speaker 3: it and puts it in front of Daphne like like
Speaker 3: drops it like she's dropping a dog. And then Daphne
Speaker 3: sees it. It's like, oh, we both read cystic fibrosis weekly.
Speaker 4: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: You must also be super intosistic fibrosis. I have a
Speaker 3: dead sister, and that as such their friendship is born.
Speaker 4: And like Daphne's dead sister thing is, I don't have
Speaker 4: a dead sister, so I don't know, but it's a
Speaker 4: bit much.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: She won't shut up about it, Like when her daughter
Speaker 4: makes her a Christmas present, it's like, these are two hearts,
Speaker 4: and this is your sister and this is you. It's like,
Speaker 4: can your daughter live her own life? Why does she
Speaker 4: have to make art about your day?
Speaker 1: It feels performative, like almost especially given which we will
Speaker 1: get to the twist we learn later. I'm like, it
Speaker 1: makes it even crazier to me that she was like
Speaker 1: talking about her sister as much as she was. Also, Clara,
Speaker 1: very funny in your summary to point out that the
Speaker 1: the husband maybe had some good points when he said
Speaker 1: when he said she should, this is the like evil
Speaker 1: abuse of husband we've mentioned. But before you know that
Speaker 1: or I guess know what when you know when you
Speaker 1: after you find out he is that way, he does
Speaker 1: like force her to go to therapy, like to talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, she should.
Speaker 1: She seems like she needs she should probably talk about
Speaker 1: that with someone.
Speaker 3: People contain multitude really truly. Yeah, that is very funny.
Speaker 3: He's really emotionally woke and certain area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the abortion debate too was kind of funny to me.
Speaker 1: Tale was like, that's I we will get to more
Speaker 1: of that later, but let's keep going cause the first
Speaker 1: half the book, the first half the.
Speaker 2: Book, we're in Amber's perspective.
Speaker 1: So we we get the perspective of this evil person
Speaker 1: who's tricking people, which.
Speaker 2: Isn't necessarily bad.
Speaker 1: Like I love I like read listen to all these
Speaker 1: podcasts about the like crazy people who trick everyone and
Speaker 1: steal their money. Like I I think that's fascinating, but
Speaker 1: like this was she This wasn't doing it for me.
Speaker 2: This was just she was so one note but also
Speaker 2: like crazy.
Speaker 1: She was really smart, so she would do things like
Speaker 1: do so much research for like so her end goal
Speaker 1: is to get become the next the next missus Parish.
Speaker 1: So she but the way she goes about it is
Speaker 1: so circuitous. It's so like she's doing so much research,
Speaker 1: tricking to trick people to get this job, and then
Speaker 1: like she's poisoning someone so that she can get their assistant.
Speaker 1: Like she's doing so much. It's like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: like there's if you were really smart, you would find
Speaker 1: a much quicker way here, because like it's just you're
Speaker 1: putting in so much effort, and it shows that she's
Speaker 1: like can be intelligent, but she's going about it she can't.
Speaker 1: She can't see the big picture, like she's she's.
Speaker 2: Just in the forest.
Speaker 4: I don't know the fact that she's like makes herself
Speaker 4: not hot yeah yeah, yeah yeah, where she's interacting brown
Speaker 4: hair switches.
Speaker 3: It's so this is the same thing that happened in
Speaker 3: the Housemaid, which is just like there For some reason,
Speaker 3: these female authors believe that like a woman wouldn't be
Speaker 3: able to recognize another woman's inherent beauty. Yeah, like, so
Speaker 3: long as that woman is wearing like ugly clothes and glasses.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you something, hot girls never look
Speaker 3: more hot than when they're in trashy.
Speaker 2: And look like they're not trying. You're absolutely right. You
Speaker 2: can always greasy.
Speaker 3: Hair, in a bond, no makeup, and then they clearly
Speaker 3: were wearing whatever, and I'm just like, fuck, you didn't
Speaker 3: even try, and you're so beautiful, Like I know when
Speaker 3: someone's beautiful. So it's very funny that in both of
Speaker 3: these it was like, she dresses mousey in front of
Speaker 3: Daphne so she can't reveal what it doesn't see her
Speaker 3: real beauty. But in front of Jackson she begins to
Speaker 3: dress nicer and nicer and flirt subtly. It's like women
Speaker 3: saw this coming fifty miles.
Speaker 2: Yes, very true.
Speaker 1: That's another reason why it's this. Daphne, the character she's scammied,
Speaker 1: is so unlikable because it's like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't really like want to root for a character that's
Speaker 1: so gullible. I want, I want, I wanted, like JOHNA
Speaker 1: said earlier, I wanted to see her get hit by
Speaker 1: a buzz. I was like, I do not like this lady.
Speaker 2: She sucks.
Speaker 3: I don't you know what. It's like. I don't even
Speaker 3: like their children, Like I don't like anyone.
Speaker 1: The children are so poorly ridden. I almost was just
Speaker 1: wondering if the does allthor not have kids?
Speaker 2: Neither of them kids.
Speaker 1: I just felt like they were written like, oh they do, yeah,
Speaker 1: you only answered their dogs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe they don't. But I finally saw a question
Speaker 4: in an interview, it.
Speaker 1: Just seems like maybe, yeah, well it just seems surprising
Speaker 1: almost because I was like, these children are written horribly.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess it's nice that there's some texture
Speaker 1: to the girl that like can't read, but like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it was also just because we were
Speaker 1: hearing about it from Amber's perspective and it.
Speaker 2: Was so boring.
Speaker 1: She was just like spoiled girls and she thought she was.
Speaker 1: She was just so like can you imagine, like everything
Speaker 1: about it didn't make sense that like they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: random person, you're now my best friend and please like
Speaker 1: she's just like patting herself on the back. But it's like, wait,
Speaker 1: can't you sense smell this desperation?
Speaker 2: And that was true desperation.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, And it didn't even make sense
Speaker 4: that she was allowed to sutt of like the Daphne
Speaker 4: is allowed by the controlling, abusive husband to have a
Speaker 4: random friend.
Speaker 1: All right, she left like a line of justification that was,
Speaker 1: like I said in front of other people that I
Speaker 1: felt bad for her, so he had to let me
Speaker 1: invite her for Christmas or something, was like the only justification.
Speaker 2: But was like, it's still weird. Why would he Yeah,
Speaker 2: he would not. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: If he was controlling, he would definitely, and he obviously
Speaker 1: at first thought Amber was trash, so why would he
Speaker 1: let her?
Speaker 4: He let her come to Christmas?
Speaker 1: And I was disappointed in the other mean ladies in
Speaker 1: the Sistics fiberss Foundation that like, once Amber got rid
Speaker 1: of the co chair or whoever, I can't remember it,
Speaker 1: but got rid of her by revealing that she was
Speaker 1: cheating or something, then I was ready. I wanted the
Speaker 1: other girls to mean girl her, but they didn't. They
Speaker 1: just like stepped aside and that was the end of that.
Speaker 4: I don't I bet they all didn't want to be
Speaker 4: the fucking code here.
Speaker 3: No one, Yeah, no one wants the responsibility of an
Speaker 3: elected position. Yeah I do. I do buy that. Obviously
Speaker 3: there's a twist later, but like that Jackson could be
Speaker 3: attracted to someone that he thinks his trashy, dumb garbage
Speaker 3: at first. That does fill in line with uh Man
Speaker 3: character in book.
Speaker 4: Sure, but why would you let Daphney have her as
Speaker 4: a friend? He does? He was taking French lessons and.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, nothing about it. Yeah, yeah, I gotch you guys,
Speaker 3: not that.
Speaker 4: I think where I really turned on Namber was when
Speaker 4: she was like judging rich people really hard and she
Speaker 4: was like, oh, the mom needs like a nanny on
Speaker 4: the weekends too, or some shit like that where it's
Speaker 4: like you.
Speaker 1: And then it was revealed that she well, never mind
Speaker 1: that the character didn't advocate whatever.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, she seemed I guess, I don't even.
Speaker 1: Know what you'd call like, I guess she was a sociopath,
Speaker 1: but it was like she was, and it was not
Speaker 1: funny because I feel like I could give I could
Speaker 1: like let you get away with like a mean character
Speaker 1: mocking the rich or like doing pure evil stuff if
Speaker 1: they also had like some personality or were like funny
Speaker 1: in some way so that they were like obviously wrong,
Speaker 1: but like they were so their perspective was so interesting
Speaker 1: and unique. I'm gonna and it made me made me laugh.
Speaker 1: I would, I'd follow it, but like, and it was
Speaker 1: none of that. It was just like generic rich people,
Speaker 1: bad spoiled me, want one to be one.
Speaker 4: Also, yes, it was yeah, so much of that. And
Speaker 4: then like I.
Speaker 3: Feel like it could have been four chapters from the
Speaker 3: certain number perspective before we then get to the daf
Speaker 3: name personerspective.
Speaker 4: And like, also I feel like the author was trying
Speaker 4: to like slowly tease out that obviously Daphne is being
Speaker 4: abused and is not happy in the relationship, and it
Speaker 4: was like a bit painful for Amber to not realize
Speaker 4: that because it was getting so obvious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's supposed to be revealed as a
Speaker 3: plot twist to the reader too. It's like Daphne's perfect
Speaker 3: life not so perfect after all. It's like really, wow.
Speaker 4: It's like Daphne seems really scared of her husband the
Speaker 4: fucking ritually that's how Itever takes it. So that's annoying,
Speaker 4: and so you're just kind of waiting for the perspective
Speaker 4: shift for so.
Speaker 1: Long, and also just like the fact that from okay,
Speaker 1: from the husband's perspective, we don't like get his chapters, but.
Speaker 2: In it in the in the Amber.
Speaker 1: Half would I do in the Amber half, there's like
Speaker 1: a point where she like turns she's with him, she
Speaker 1: gets him to cheat or like to get him to cheat.
Speaker 1: She says all these horrible things her best friend, her
Speaker 1: apparent best friend, said about him behind his back, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's also just showed how crazy stupid his
Speaker 1: character was to not be like, wait, why are you
Speaker 1: her best friend? And now you're talking complete trash about her?
Speaker 1: Like this is immediately suspicious. You just did a one
Speaker 1: to eighty, but like no, he just was like believed it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was just like.
Speaker 4: And also didn't murder Dafne for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, right, I guess that's really dark,
Speaker 3: but you're right, I.
Speaker 1: Guess at the point that point, I was what I
Speaker 1: was hoping was that like, oh, the difference between this
Speaker 1: and like the Housemaid was like the Amber slash Housemaid
Speaker 1: character and Amber is much more is I guess, unlikable
Speaker 1: and horrible in many ways than the Housemaid character, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, maybe this is gonna be funny.
Speaker 1: It'd be so funny if these two as just like
Speaker 1: two sociopaths together happy.
Speaker 2: But that's not how it went.
Speaker 1: But I was really hoping that that would be something
Speaker 1: just like where they were like, you know, oh, we.
Speaker 2: See each other and we're great. We'll both be crazy.
Speaker 1: Performative in front of other people and psychos behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and that's just works for us.
Speaker 2: We love each other. That's what I was hoping. Didn't
Speaker 2: get my fairy tale.
Speaker 3: But those people are out there and they just met
Speaker 3: each other in a nice way. Hope that those people
Speaker 3: find each other, yes way, you know, and you can
Speaker 3: leave the funny brave Pittsburgh Steelers' safeties for me?
Speaker 4: Is there something specific said Trip Triple?
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, he's very happily married to his wife and
Speaker 3: I'm happily married to me. Is not funny. He's utterly unfunny.
Speaker 3: He's very very sincere.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: I was about to be like, did he make a
Speaker 4: drink anyway?
Speaker 2: Phoebe? Wait, no, what who's Phoebe?
Speaker 4: Daphne?
Speaker 2: Daphne?
Speaker 4: All right, we get her perspective, and it's bad it's
Speaker 4: bad man Jackson is really abusing her. It's very unpleasant
Speaker 4: to listen to.
Speaker 3: We find out that she's trapped, you know, she's trapped,
Speaker 3: even financially trapped. Even the charity work that she's doing,
Speaker 3: it was all Jackson's idea. So again he has an
Speaker 3: altruistics and you would and you.
Speaker 1: Would think given the fact that she's like married and
Speaker 1: trapped with a sociopath and like studying him, that she
Speaker 1: would be able to like spot one again, but she
Speaker 1: does not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she took those psychology classes.
Speaker 2: And then she fell for it again.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is an unlikable character because of
Speaker 1: how dumb they are and they're being abused.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also interesting to me that we keep reading
Speaker 3: these books about like a woman that's being abused, but
Speaker 3: it's a really super wealthy woman with a you know,
Speaker 3: like they're like top one percent family, and it's it
Speaker 3: is just interesting because it's like that is not typically
Speaker 3: the woman who's it's true, like who's trapped in an
Speaker 3: abusive marriage. Like the people with resources like do have
Speaker 3: a better chance of getting out. But it just seems
Speaker 3: like authors are like incapable of writing.
Speaker 1: They know their audience and they're like, you'd like to
Speaker 1: imagine that you're rich like this lady, and then it's scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And also literacy is going to be a
Speaker 3: big part for my book. Literacy and one character will
Speaker 3: be a writer and one person can't read, and it's
Speaker 3: the saddest thing and the whole.
Speaker 2: Oh also, sorry to go back.
Speaker 1: So the he starts getting abusive, she gets or Daphne
Speaker 1: gets pregnant and they find out it's a woman, and
Speaker 1: like at one point, oh my god, sorry, it's a
Speaker 1: baby girl and he really wanted a boy. And she
Speaker 1: he says something like next time we'll get a CBS
Speaker 1: and confirm the gender all this stuff, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what is he talking about, Like you can do a blood.
Speaker 2: Test in ten weeks, you don't need to do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was really funny how off the
Speaker 1: medical perspective wasn't all that? And also she was he
Speaker 1: was like they were again, yeah, maybe had these conversations
Speaker 1: before you get married. But the fact that he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's something wrong, we'll get an abortion, she was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was like, actually, secretly, yeah, I was like, am
Speaker 2: I supposed to like like her for this. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just it's like she's just being annoying now because
Speaker 1: it's just like her being righteous and it doesn't And
Speaker 1: we know she has two daughters, so it's not like
Speaker 1: it came into play, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just bother we know it didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was right because he was like, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about it if it happens.
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, yeah, I'd like this guy
Speaker 4: a bit gruff about.
Speaker 1: It, but I'm like, he was right, it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Don't don't talk to me. Don't want to hear your
Speaker 1: conversation about this.
Speaker 4: I think my biggest problem with Daphney is her Like
Speaker 4: was she really stuck? Like could she have worked a
Speaker 4: little harder and gotten herself? Yeah, it just seemed like
Speaker 4: she was so weak. Ye, she resigned herself to this.
Speaker 1: Her parents could have got her her, like, like they
Speaker 1: didn't trust it, like she could have it did.
Speaker 2: I did not feel that she was. I guess it's trapped.
Speaker 2: Just maybe the wife and housemaid.
Speaker 4: I can't remember the other one when she was like
Speaker 4: literally in the attic.
Speaker 2: They both had them committed. That was something they both did.
Speaker 4: It was they both had them committed, and he used
Speaker 4: his money to get like fair.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I didn't like any Yeah I did to.
Speaker 1: She's I don't like to hear about the babies getting
Speaker 1: taken away from the mommies.
Speaker 2: I don't like that at all. I don't like it.
Speaker 4: He likes that, but it just seems like it's not
Speaker 4: It seems like, why don't you I don't know if
Speaker 4: she she said like he would show her the letters
Speaker 4: and be like as like a threat. It's like, all right,
Speaker 4: why don't you put up a secret camera or something like, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, catch him, yeah, record anything and get him sick,
Speaker 1: because he's anything. He reveals himself to you all the time,
Speaker 1: like record You're absolutely right, Clara.
Speaker 3: Right, He's like, no one would ever believe that I'm
Speaker 3: abusing you me Jack.
Speaker 4: He says that every night. Also try to kill him.
Speaker 4: I think she should have tried to kill him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cut it done that she did again.
Speaker 3: Any character that wants to die in this book, feel
Speaker 3: free go buy me.
Speaker 1: We did not, and we did not see she didn't
Speaker 1: I feel like in a Housemaid. At one point, she
Speaker 1: actually tries to escape and gets but like there was
Speaker 1: no escape attempted.
Speaker 2: No kay.
Speaker 4: The thing she does to like take risks with Jackson.
Speaker 4: One of the things he likes her to go to
Speaker 4: the gym, because he makes her go to the gym
Speaker 4: right he wants her to say fit. She skips that
Speaker 4: for a massage, lies to him about it. It's like,
Speaker 4: are you fucking gating me? Skip it to go to
Speaker 4: the goddamn to use a gun yourself? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: I think anything anything to get a massage.
Speaker 2: And then she does.
Speaker 1: The other secret thing she does is like she says
Speaker 1: she's taking classes in like art history, but then goes
Speaker 1: to psychology classes to take to take where she clearly
Speaker 1: learns nothing. I don't know what the fuck crinky dink
Speaker 1: in college she was going.
Speaker 2: To like it was it was, it was.
Speaker 3: It's like she's doing the slowest role she possibly can
Speaker 3: for her for her escape, which is like, first I'll
Speaker 3: get a massage to make for my muscle so that
Speaker 3: I'm able. It's like, then I'll begin a program on
Speaker 3: psychology like it was, I'll get a I'll get a
Speaker 3: six year degree program and.
Speaker 2: Let me get my blood tested.
Speaker 1: Make sure everything's like, just in case I'm a little dehydrated,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be low on vitamin D.
Speaker 4: And it's like this could have been an interesting thing
Speaker 4: to explore in the book, that like she's not really
Speaker 4: trapped and that she's sort of like passive in it,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't. The book presented it as like she's
Speaker 4: totally trapped. Her only choice is to get the massage
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: But like you said, it's like it's being trapped is
Speaker 3: so much more mental, I feel like than it is
Speaker 3: anything else, which is like that's that would be an
Speaker 3: interesting thing for this book to flore, right, but it doesn't.
Speaker 3: It's like no, no, She's physically trying get to.
Speaker 1: The point where Amber's introduced, and like she just falls
Speaker 1: for everything Amber is telling her uh for a long time,
Speaker 1: up until maybe they find out Amber, another member of
Speaker 1: the fibrosis Cistic Fibrosus Foundation, reveals that she isn't who
Speaker 1: she says she is, and then instead of she kind
Speaker 1: of believes her insane that she was from an abused
Speaker 1: family and that's why she has a fake name. But
Speaker 1: she's like, just in case, I'll do one thing and
Speaker 1: I'll hire she can hire a private investigator. She couldn't
Speaker 1: do this on her own husband, like she couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything whatever, But she does.
Speaker 4: And then it's like, get the same private investigator to
Speaker 4: tell the world that you're beating.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, anything, but anyway, and then finds out about her.
Speaker 1: But then like, she doesn't seem that upset about it.
Speaker 1: She doesn't seem to like beat herself up. Because I personally,
Speaker 1: if I were her at this junk, sure I'd be like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm being had again. Well this is telling me it's
Speaker 1: a me problem. I'm a stupid, fucking idiot, or at
Speaker 1: least I.
Speaker 4: Would be in denial about it, and that would be
Speaker 4: interesting for the book.
Speaker 1: It was just like, yeah, okay, oh I've been had again.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe she can be me instead. Like it's not
Speaker 1: even clear at this point that she is going to
Speaker 1: try to steal her husband, but like, for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, maybe I'm getting confused.
Speaker 4: But it also felt frustrating to me that Dafne like
Speaker 4: took all the credit for Jackson falling in love with Amber.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was no Amber got hot.
Speaker 2: Amber did the thing.
Speaker 1: All you did was say you don't like Shakespeare and
Speaker 1: then she repeated it, and that come that would not
Speaker 1: have upset about out.
Speaker 3: There's a special place in hell for women, and that
Speaker 3: is classic Daphne.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, truly Daphne does not support other women. So
Speaker 2: she gets her way because it's funny enough.
Speaker 1: Amber goes as far as like finding out he wanted
Speaker 1: a boy and then somehow does get pregnant with a
Speaker 1: boy just luck of the draw.
Speaker 3: I guess, well, they probably did it missionary, right. I
Speaker 3: think you have to as long as you do it missionary,
Speaker 3: it's a boy. You guys don't know that we both
Speaker 3: have boys, and we're giving you a face doggy style
Speaker 3: for a girl, missionary for a boy. It's such a science,
Speaker 3: so all she did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess if it's easy, she
Speaker 4: figured it out.
Speaker 2: As far as I know, it.
Speaker 4: Was interesting because she when she told him she was
Speaker 4: having a boy, she said she photoshopped the ultrasound.
Speaker 1: And then just got lucky, right, and then just got lucky,
Speaker 1: which is so boring.
Speaker 4: Why don't you why did you introduce the idea that
Speaker 4: it wasn't like, why did you introduce the photoshop? Yeah,
Speaker 4: if it wasn't going to pay off, just make it
Speaker 4: be that she was bringing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, like, what do you mean you photoshopped the ultrasound,
Speaker 3: Like you went in there and you like drew a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's a boy because that's pretty much all
Speaker 1: they do, right, it's a girl.
Speaker 3: But there's like, like there's nothing really on the ultrasound.
Speaker 3: It's so normal to not be able to see any
Speaker 3: any sex organs. She likes what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: She is an incredible as a hardist, and she could
Speaker 1: be using these skills to do a lot more Like
Speaker 1: if she can do this kind of photoshop, like, she
Speaker 1: could be doing bigger scams. Like she does not need
Speaker 1: to be fucking and blowing a guy just to get
Speaker 1: his money, Like, she has other talents.
Speaker 2: And it's crazy to me that she doesn't see that.
Speaker 3: And that's a woman that's supports with their women right there.
Speaker 2: If I were a friend, I'd sit her down and
Speaker 2: I'd tell her like, look, I'd sit.
Speaker 4: Her down and be like, I believe you that you
Speaker 4: also have a dead sister in the answer.
Speaker 1: Also like look at what you've done in your life,
Speaker 1: or look at what you've accomplished, look at all the
Speaker 1: devious trickster stuff. Do you really believe that you would
Speaker 1: marry someone and just become their trophy wife and that
Speaker 1: you would be happy in that life. Like, let's be real,
Speaker 1: not no way you're gonna you are a scam artist,
Speaker 1: and that is you are an artist.
Speaker 2: You know, you embrace it, you know, don't give up on.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I I you were, And that's what I would say.
Speaker 3: To her, M Like, there are certainly elements of being
Speaker 3: a trophy wife that I have a handle, you know,
Speaker 3: for sure. The massages, the massages, I you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like if that is my job, that's my job.
Speaker 3: Like I'll find the joy in it that I can,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And the money for sure,
Speaker 3: and that sort of just filling each day with pleasure
Speaker 3: as as I desire it, so it to whatever whims
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 1: I feel like eventually those things will lose the You're
Speaker 1: just gonna become more. She's gonna seek more and more.
Speaker 1: And so would you, Johnnah, you would never. You would
Speaker 1: never be satiated. You would need massages twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: You know, and then that wouldn't be nice. You'd be
Speaker 2: paying people to touch you off.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I would like have a job to a secret a
Speaker 3: secret job.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, anyway, I whatever, it's there's so there's so
Speaker 1: little in this that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Where are we in this fucker? Okay, so now we're
Speaker 2: at the point where Daphnie.
Speaker 1: We're from Daphnie's perspective and she thinks she's tricking Amber,
Speaker 1: but like, really, as Claire pointed out, I still think
Speaker 1: Amber's doing a bulk of the work with the cheating here.
Speaker 2: She's just gaining ten pounds. Ten pounds, she gained ten pounds.
Speaker 2: It's nothing, you kidding me? Oh, it's really fat phobic.
Speaker 2: This book is sorry, I forgot about how so much about.
Speaker 1: Wade and Amber being mean about Daphne gaining I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was like one of those where it's like she
Speaker 1: was a size flour and now she's a size six.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so they're all just really fit. I
Speaker 1: can't tell the difference between a size flour and a
Speaker 1: size six?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Get the fuck out of here?
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, it was insane. Yeah, there's so much
Speaker 4: emphasis on weight and like her deciding like I know
Speaker 4: how to get Daphne being like I know how to
Speaker 4: get Amber and my husband together all gain weight. That's
Speaker 4: her grand plan.
Speaker 1: I learned this in psychology that men don't like get
Speaker 1: men be men game. Yeah, no, she's an everyone's an idiot,
Speaker 1: and so you can't roof for anyone. And also I
Speaker 1: just just because like you know, I'm the sex the sexpert,
Speaker 1: I would say the sex scene expert or you know, fan,
Speaker 1: I guess I have to bring up this book did
Speaker 1: have a lot of sex, but most of it was rape,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't and the sex that wasn't rape was
Speaker 1: like almost I guess could be arguably rape because there
Speaker 1: were it was like people trying to trick other people
Speaker 1: and it was.
Speaker 2: There was nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of it was joy.
Speaker 1: It was there was a lot of insistent tongues, as
Speaker 1: we're aware of, and I'm always like, what are these tongues?
Speaker 2: What are they insisting? Like right, why is that.
Speaker 4: Always the term unpleasant existent?
Speaker 1: It's like I insist, No, I insist, I insist, But
Speaker 1: it's tongues.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. It's not sexy and it's used
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 3: You know what other phrase I can't stand. I think
Speaker 3: I read it in this book, but I'm not one
Speaker 3: hundred person I'm sure is the I feel's just give
Speaker 3: it credit to this book. The he said not unkindly,
Speaker 3: just like stop, just say how like not he said
Speaker 3: not unkindly, Like how do you say it rude? Like nice? Friendly?
Speaker 3: That phrasing is the same. It's like I padded down
Speaker 3: the hallway is another one. This book had a lot
Speaker 3: of like weird little like.
Speaker 2: That, Like yeah, I just there wasn't a lot good
Speaker 2: in this book. There was no good tension. I didn't
Speaker 2: care about any of the characters.
Speaker 4: Just was it longer? Did you just feel long?
Speaker 2: I don't think it was actually long, so I think
Speaker 2: it felt long, okay.
Speaker 1: Daphane eventually gets to the point or or Amber gets
Speaker 1: to the point where she convinces him to divorce Daphne,
Speaker 1: and then Daphne's like, ha ha, I know you're trying
Speaker 1: to marry a woman who's should be in jail. So
Speaker 1: I give me money and let me go to California
Speaker 1: or else.
Speaker 2: Which she went to. I she moved to.
Speaker 1: She moved her two girls to so cal and then
Speaker 1: was like telling them it's okay, they don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about being thin. Ever it again, and I just
Speaker 1: like in my head, I was like, why did you
Speaker 1: Why did you move to so Cal.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just move a little further east.
Speaker 2: I think that wasn't the right place for you.
Speaker 4: But okay, I'm gonna say something. Oh yeah, So so
Speaker 4: it wasn't a twist to find out the daph and
Speaker 4: he actually had a bad life. And then I don't
Speaker 4: think it's fair to call it a twist when we
Speaker 4: learn about what Amber did.
Speaker 2: Oh at the very end, it was so stupid.
Speaker 1: What it felt like was they had this big Okay,
Speaker 1: so first of all, Amber gets her way, she gets married,
Speaker 1: but then because Jackson finds out about who she really is,
Speaker 1: he starts abusing her.
Speaker 2: But I guess we can assume he was gonna do
Speaker 2: that anyway.
Speaker 4: I was surprised it took it.
Speaker 2: It took up. Yeah, that's why I was saying.
Speaker 1: I was still helping for my happy ending between the
Speaker 1: two of them.
Speaker 2: But no, it's just he just is.
Speaker 1: Also it's just like you're abusing someone else. Yay, we
Speaker 1: were supposed to say. But she comes at the end
Speaker 1: to like be like I knew, to kind of be
Speaker 1: like say her peace and be like I you thought
Speaker 1: I was your friend, I wasn't. I was onto you
Speaker 1: even though it was Stephanie. Daphne was not onto her
Speaker 1: until like way later, a.
Speaker 4: Long time to be on her.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was way it was way Oh god,
Speaker 2: what do we I don't even know.
Speaker 4: Just and and I think that people say when there's twists, twists,
Speaker 4: I think this is supposed to count as one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They just like blurred out at the end that what
Speaker 4: Amber did before she like left town and decided.
Speaker 1: Right right, So why was Amber? Why did Amber run away? Well,
Speaker 1: apparently there was some rich boy who.
Speaker 2: They were having.
Speaker 1: She lied and said he raped her, and then he
Speaker 1: went to prison, and then he's now like then I
Speaker 1: guess he got beaten up in prison and now he's
Speaker 1: paraplegic or something.
Speaker 2: Is that what it was?
Speaker 4: Which exactly?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just want to say, like, you can
Speaker 3: never have too many fake reports of rape in books
Speaker 3: by authors. Yeah, I know, also not very churning those
Speaker 3: out as many as not very feminist, but also.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, but Daphne was trying to be like,
Speaker 1: you don't even feel bad he's paraplegic. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: she did not make him paraplegic. I'm sorry that happened
Speaker 1: in jail, but like it's she did some shitty stuff,
Speaker 1: but it's crazy to blame him her for that. That
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to everyone in jail. That's not like common.
Speaker 1: That's a very incompetated happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in the outrage and the surprise is like
Speaker 4: you've been through so much, you have me.
Speaker 1: And also what it felt like is that the authors
Speaker 1: got to this point and they were like, wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait Live what.
Speaker 2: Are their names? Live?
Speaker 1: And no?
Speaker 2: Lynn and uh Gallery and Lynn Valley.
Speaker 1: They were like, Lynn was like, wait, is it bad
Speaker 1: that we made the hero of this book wins by
Speaker 1: having another woman abused?
Speaker 2: Is that bad? And they were like, oh, yeah, maybe that,
Speaker 2: maybe that does look bad.
Speaker 1: Oh I know, We'll just say a bunch of horrible
Speaker 1: ship that she did at the very end and justifies,
Speaker 1: you know, everything that she did to her.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't. It just feels
Speaker 2: like you're listening ship.
Speaker 1: She just just like listening things and allowing an Amber
Speaker 1: was just like so what, I don't care, which was
Speaker 1: also a weird response to have, like why are you
Speaker 1: admitting things to this woman who said whatever?
Speaker 3: It didn't make any sense. It's I'm starting to believe.
Speaker 3: What if one of the sisters is like a really
Speaker 3: insane bad is just always frantically trying to make sense
Speaker 3: of the plot. It is just cleaning things up.
Speaker 2: So do I sell it? How do I sell it? Hey?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get the right, the first, right, the second. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you you started off, I'll land it home. My god, here,
Speaker 3: let's uh, let's play the uh the lamb Constantine writing exercise.
Speaker 3: I'll start the sentence and you'll have to fix it. Okay, ruby,
Speaker 3: red and glistening. Comma, gun, she said, Comma.
Speaker 4: I'm listening, gun, she said under her breath. She licked
Speaker 4: her lips again.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, oh no, oh no, wait, I'm the
Speaker 2: This is an odd shade for a cherry lollipop.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let me play one.
Speaker 1: The bitch wouldn't stop with her lower lip quick, he thought.
Speaker 3: As he checked himself in to a rehab program, realizing
Speaker 3: that he had finally hit rock bottom and it wasn't
Speaker 3: safe for him to be around people anymore.
Speaker 2: I thought I was setting up. I thought Clara would
Speaker 2: come in with the dog, but it did happen.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I want a crazy backup the rehabit.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 4: It was rehab for his knee from a tennis injury.
Speaker 4: He wished he could have sprung on her sooner for
Speaker 4: that stupid lip nonsense.
Speaker 2: But his knee, goddamn knee.
Speaker 4: That's a fun game. I have another. I have an
Speaker 4: answer as the author if we want.
Speaker 3: To oh please, oh yeah, why not take me there?
Speaker 4: It's a little unusual, okay. So this magazine that interviewed her,
Speaker 4: Internet magazine that interviewed her has a thing where when
Speaker 4: they interview an author, the author gets to ask readers
Speaker 4: a question and then you readers submit answers and they
Speaker 4: choose one and you get a signed copy of the book.
Speaker 4: And so this Lynn was the one they interviewed. And Lynn,
Speaker 4: you get to to ask a question to our readers.
Speaker 4: It can be anything you want. Do you guys want
Speaker 4: to be Lynn and have a question for our readers
Speaker 4: to write in to try to win your book?
Speaker 3: Do your readers? Not that it's a competition, but who
Speaker 3: do you think is the prettier sister XL live? But
Speaker 3: she writes live and question in parentheses or quotation marks,
Speaker 3: so we don't know which sister does.
Speaker 4: That's very funny. That's very funny.
Speaker 1: It's not correct, dear reader, what's a what's a way
Speaker 1: to make a rich woman likable?
Speaker 4: That's a hard one. That's a hard one.
Speaker 6: Somebody wrote back, process, then a copy and pasted add
Speaker 6: into my email to my other sister.
Speaker 4: This was Lynn's question. If someone gave you a gift
Speaker 4: card in the amount of twenty thousand dollars for any
Speaker 4: designer store, which store would you pick? And what would
Speaker 4: you buy?
Speaker 2: This was research for the book.
Speaker 3: Which store would you pick?
Speaker 2: And why not?
Speaker 1: And why?
Speaker 3: And what would you buy?
Speaker 2: Like that is She's.
Speaker 3: That's a gross question.
Speaker 4: That's such a boring question.
Speaker 1: I have to imagine she was doing research for this
Speaker 1: book because there's so many dumb specifics.
Speaker 4: I just think she's such a bad writer. She could
Speaker 4: not think of an interesting question, and she like tried
Speaker 4: to think of like if you had a million wishes,
Speaker 4: what would you wish for?
Speaker 2: But she like women, what are women?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm actually shocked that this is two females.
Speaker 1: When you say that, I'm like, this feels like a
Speaker 1: male pretending to be a female when you say things like.
Speaker 4: This, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: My response as a reader would be like, dear Lynn,
Speaker 3: when you said gift card and the number twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Of course, tim mind raced with possibilities. There could not
Speaker 3: have been a more disappointing finish to that sense than
Speaker 3: for which designer store?
Speaker 2: Where was val Or Victoria? I can't remember.
Speaker 3: The only thing I could do with that would be
Speaker 3: to buy something that was as resellable as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I could put it on eBay, resell it, and
Speaker 3: then use the twenty thousand dollars to buy a house.
Speaker 4: And like, it's just it's such a bad question for
Speaker 4: like we're going to pick the best answer to give
Speaker 4: them a prize. It's like all the answers will be
Speaker 4: exactly the same.
Speaker 1: How, yeah, how do you decide? I would love to
Speaker 1: know did they have a best answer?
Speaker 2: Was it was that right?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I maybe they just picked
Speaker 4: a random one because all the answers are the same,
Speaker 4: because you can only answer clothes or maybe jewelry.
Speaker 2: I just want to know how you win that. I
Speaker 2: want to know you win it. That's my favorite store
Speaker 2: and that's my favorite thing you win, Like what right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's just a random whatever, yeah, random from participants.
Speaker 3: I have to be like I love your jokey question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're who were you making fun of? It's like
Speaker 4: she thinks her audience would. She's like, my audience is
Speaker 4: rich women, right, and I'm fun And what's like it's
Speaker 4: barely a hypothetical. It's so boring. She's just it just
Speaker 4: shows like that she's the bad writer sister, like she
Speaker 4: has to show Okay, so imaginative. It's so bad. But
Speaker 4: I thought it would be a fun unusual answer as
Speaker 4: the author.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Netflix has it for a movie adaptation now, okay, but
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Is I just can't. I don't see how this is
Speaker 2: any good.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could rewrite it, yeah, I guess, but
Speaker 1: they already did, didn't what's her face? We wrote it
Speaker 1: for The Housemaiden. I do think it was an improvement.
Speaker 1: I even I think that that book was crazy, but
Speaker 1: I didn't have the same.
Speaker 4: Like it was better.
Speaker 2: It was way better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it addressed the It had a character being like,
Speaker 4: you can't just swap with another woman because now the
Speaker 4: other one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got together at the end. Yeah, it felt
Speaker 2: it was the last.
Speaker 3: It was written second, so it was you know, so
Speaker 3: they had time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but to be able to recognize mistakes.
Speaker 3: They grew, they grew. It was brave.
Speaker 4: Do you guys want to move on to the hates
Speaker 4: and all that, or no, we need to do good reads?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's move on to the boasts and then
Speaker 3: we'll get to our roasts, okay, and then we'll roast
Speaker 3: each other, and then we'll boast each other and then.
Speaker 4: We'll I don't want to be a part of the cast, Claire,
Speaker 4: I know that, Jonah, I feel like you feel very
Speaker 4: good about Clara.
Speaker 2: Sorry, did you get do you have the good reeds
Speaker 2: for that?
Speaker 4: Okay? Forgot?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all right.
Speaker 1: Well, usually used to do it all, so I don't
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: I felt like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're right, it's we're inconsistent. It was just like the
Speaker 1: producer doesn't now. But it's mostly because I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Here you go.
Speaker 1: Beth more Ban says this was a wild ride, also
Speaker 1: good for her. Clap Clap, clap, five stars.
Speaker 3: I don't know was it clap emoji or did she
Speaker 3: write out there no, sorry it was that clap emoji.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Okay, it makes me respect it less.
Speaker 1: Here here Danielle says, Wow, Wow, Wow. This was an
Speaker 1: intense read, scandalized deception with a twist. I couldn't stop
Speaker 1: listening to this one. It is definitely an adult book,
Speaker 1: reminiscent of basic instinct.
Speaker 2: I had to know how it ended.
Speaker 1: It's not often that I find a book that I
Speaker 1: simply cannot put down, but this one was definitely that.
Speaker 2: Therefore it gets five stars. I have a lot of
Speaker 2: questions for Danielle. Do you often not.
Speaker 1: You often can't finish books? It feels like she's inferrying
Speaker 1: that she does. She gives up on books a lot.
Speaker 4: No, Well, I don't know why she wouldn't give up
Speaker 4: on this one. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I don't it's definitely an adult book. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Did you think this was a Did you go into
Speaker 1: this thinking it was a teenage I don't understand.
Speaker 3: That's her way of saying the book has the book
Speaker 3: has rape in it. The way she hit it was like,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, it's adult.
Speaker 2: I'd be a little.
Speaker 3: More clear, because that means so many different things.
Speaker 4: You love domestic, definitely adult.
Speaker 3: It's like the way my mom would have described The
Speaker 3: Wolf of Wall Street famously at the It's day had
Speaker 3: like the most f words in any movie ever created.
Speaker 3: It was fun, it was adult.
Speaker 2: Like sin.
Speaker 3: What can one say?
Speaker 2: No, I don't need anything, I don't have anything else.
Speaker 2: I like this one.
Speaker 1: Janelle Janssen says, review to come six years ago, five stars.
Speaker 2: You've had said rebewn to cup six years ago, it's
Speaker 2: never coming. But she gave it five.
Speaker 4: Stars, but she doesn't have time to say why. All right,
Speaker 4: just trust her on this one. I'm ready with my
Speaker 4: hate rates. You're out of five. Fuck this the long Yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe everyone's an asshole?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: You can to write a character that hates rich people
Speaker 4: and I would be so annoying. It's like, come on,
Speaker 4: more bad things about rich people. Can't we all hate
Speaker 4: rich people together? You make me want to defend them?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you breaking my brain?
Speaker 1: Everything was so one dimensional. I also, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give it a one out of five. I agree it
Speaker 1: was there's not really much to like. I think if
Speaker 1: this kind of setup excites you, read The Housemaid or
Speaker 1: probably fifty other books that do the same thing. It
Speaker 1: just yeah, there was nothing likable about it, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have finished it if I didn't have to for
Speaker 1: his book club.
Speaker 3: I'm giving it one point lower than whatever I gave
Speaker 3: The Housemaid. And I don't have access to that information
Speaker 3: yet to get better, Blake, maybe you do. Uh So whatever,
Speaker 3: that number was minus one. And I know that's not
Speaker 3: fair because this book was written first, but unfortunately for
Speaker 3: the authors, I did read it second, and that made
Speaker 3: me more mad that I was reading a book I
Speaker 3: hate it already a second time. It was like I
Speaker 3: had to reread The Housemaid. Can you imagine? But it's
Speaker 3: like I have to read books. Yeah, that's bad. It's
Speaker 3: bad that you would do that to me. So therefore,
Speaker 3: if I had to guess, I gave The Housemaid, uh two,
Speaker 3: so this is probably one?
Speaker 2: Probably one?
Speaker 1: All right? Uh yeah, maybe I'm going to change it
Speaker 1: to zero because this isn't a New York Times bestseller.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna change it to a zero because like
Speaker 1: because of the shame it brought me with how I
Speaker 1: re extra research I thought I did.
Speaker 4: And you know, honestly, really embarrassing, sir, It's really embarrassing,
Speaker 4: he wrote back to her.
Speaker 1: She told me it wasn't said no, actually it is,
Speaker 1: and then you actually lead her.
Speaker 2: I actually and all of us. Okay, no you you
Speaker 2: none of you?
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna do hate rates. Are we all just
Speaker 3: saying Molly? Do I have to be the first to
Speaker 3: say it?
Speaker 2: Or sure?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, who wants to start.
Speaker 2: The cast?
Speaker 4: So we're gonna We're gonna shift blame to Molly.
Speaker 3: That's what I think makes the most sense.
Speaker 4: We can either turn on Johanna right now or all
Speaker 4: get on board with this.
Speaker 3: I think we need to be an agreement. Guys support
Speaker 3: other women with me.
Speaker 4: Molly called us parasocial, and if we're really friends, I
Speaker 4: would turn on her. If I'm treating her like a guest,
Speaker 4: then I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Molly really friends? Mollie, we're friends?
Speaker 1: When I say back to you, no, it actually is
Speaker 1: The New York Times a seller, I need you to
Speaker 1: argue with me.
Speaker 2: I need you to say, listen, bitch, I said what
Speaker 2: I said. You're wrong. I'm right. I needed that from you.
Speaker 1: I needed that radical honesty from you, my parasocial friend,
Speaker 1: and I did not get it.
Speaker 3: Molly, you emailed me. I never responded back, and then
Speaker 3: I never got a follow up any kind I never
Speaker 3: got like, hey, bitch, did you read my email? And
Speaker 3: you know for that, you're my little fucker, Molly.
Speaker 2: We've had the recommender of the little fucker, Molly.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a New York Times bestseller, which just makes
Speaker 4: it worse.
Speaker 3: Makes it worse the number of times, say you had
Speaker 3: three times in the email, we still missed it. How
Speaker 3: dare you?
Speaker 1: You said it so many times? I couldn't believe it,
Speaker 1: I said, she must. Oh my god, wow, I totally
Speaker 1: like ambered you.
Speaker 4: I don't know it's my favorite, Molly, but it's funny
Speaker 4: to turn it my little.
Speaker 1: Fucker all right now, it's what pretty princess, and it's Clara.
Speaker 4: Clara Princess ever to live? Okay, moving right along, What
Speaker 4: do we do now? Is that the end? I feel
Speaker 4: like there's another part right well?
Speaker 3: We are mean booked you book by cover you guys.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't have.
Speaker 4: The covert either.
Speaker 2: Probably I'll go pull it up right now.
Speaker 4: I can look at it.
Speaker 1: It looks better. It's it's how I expect it. It
Speaker 1: looks better than the book. It looks better than the book.
Speaker 2: Pretty cool. There's a diamond for some reason. I guess
Speaker 2: that's the religion. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Mine is like a person on a dock with a
Speaker 4: very large hair.
Speaker 2: Oh yours is different, and.
Speaker 3: God, it makes me want to read it by a pool.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at something.
Speaker 4: With It doesn't happen in the book. Nobody sits on
Speaker 4: a dock and.
Speaker 5: Realize it's kind of The one I'm looking at is
Speaker 5: like dark with orangey bronze font that's confusing because they're
Speaker 5: a bunch of like bronze lines going through it. So
Speaker 5: you could read the last Missus Parish, but you could
Speaker 5: also read the last m PS Popish.
Speaker 2: Something you could read because it's a little confusing.
Speaker 4: So it doesn't even cover.
Speaker 3: Why does the book get to have three different covers,
Speaker 3: like actually four different covers. It just seems like bullshit,
Speaker 3: Like you get picked one cover and you can have
Speaker 3: another one. If you write another book, then you get
Speaker 3: to have another cover.
Speaker 4: Those are the rules.
Speaker 3: Okay, have a million covers. It makes me mad. Judge
Speaker 3: a book by its cover.
Speaker 2: Zero for the.
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Speaker 1: us five stars, and then you can trash us.
Speaker 3: We don't care you said about me last week.
Speaker 2: I do sort of care, alright, but I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I just want the five stars.
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, I want the five stars, but I
Speaker 4: also think we have a nice cast.
Speaker 3: I just feel like someone kind of trashed me last week,
Speaker 3: and be fun if like everyone went after one other person.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It took the longest warm up to Johna.
Speaker 3: Each of you has earned a place in my heart.
Speaker 3: With Johanna being the slowest to do something with it
Speaker 3: was like with Johanna taking the longest.
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Speaker 4: Guys, Seven Husbands.
Speaker 2: Of Evelyn Hugo.
Speaker 3: Evelyn Hugo. That's right, Yes, the segment always pops up
Speaker 3: on me, you know what I mean, I've never prepared for.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna pick, not until we get to
Speaker 2: this point. Am I going to actually go find that book?
Speaker 3: And I'm not always an emergency?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm excited for that one, and god damn it,
Speaker 1: and I really hope it's a New York Times bestseller,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna check until right before all Right,
Speaker 1: let's go, we'll.
Speaker 2: See, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get joined by I don't know you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna bring up Sabrina.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just don't bring her up.
Speaker 3: Just just don't.
Speaker 2: Don't bring her up. Nobody bring her up. Don't bring
Speaker 2: her up again. Okay, all right, we'll see you next time, guys.
Speaker 3: Bye, bye, my thanks again.
Speaker 4: She said that, dripping with sarcasm.
Speaker 3: No no, no, Ka