WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:12.000 The radical fundamental principles of freedom, rational self interest, and 2 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:22.920 individual rights. This is the Ran book show. Oh right, everybody, 3 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:27.199 welcome to her one book show. And this almost the 4 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:32.000 last day of the year, December thirty four, and today 5 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.960 we're going to take out the not very contrary twelve 6 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:40.280 the most controversial topic maybe in American politics today, maybe 7 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:44.119 for the last eight to ten years, and that is immigration. 8 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.200 And by the end of the show today we will 9 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.560 have solved the problem. We will propose a policy that 10 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:56.240 is just solves all the problems that immigration that the 11 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:01.159 immigration debate is dealing with. At least that is the hope. 12 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:07.439 I will be proposing my solutions, my policy, and we 13 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:13.640 will go through the entire debate, the problem with today's policies, 14 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:17.519 the reason why they exist in the way that they do, 15 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:22.079 their consequences, and what the solution will be, and what 16 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:26.879 the consequences of the solutions are. What the solution is, 17 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.319 what the consequences are. So we'll go through all of that. 18 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:36.120 This is a show sponsored by Alex Epstein in addition. Epstein, 19 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:41.280 in addition to his sponsorship of the regular shows right 20 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:46.200 this monthly sponsorship. This is a specific show that he 21 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:51.680 has sponsored the second one. We did the China policy, 22 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:55.079 fixing the China policy, getting China policy right. We did 23 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.400 that a week ago, and now we're going to take 24 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:07.159 up in migration. So yes, so feel free to ask questions. 25 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.360 You can ask questions, of course about anything, but I 26 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.639 will get priority for the immigration questions and start off 27 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:21.560 with the immigration questions and we will cover those first 28 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.439 and then we'll cover everything else. But you can't ask 29 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:30.159 about anything you would like to ask. Also want to 30 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.879 remind you before we get started about tomorrow's show, we 31 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:40.479 will be doing our year and Year in Review fundraising 32 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:46.120 show tomorrow. We have a big ask, a big goal 33 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:50.319 to try to achieve, which is to raise at least 34 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:55.960 fifteen thousand dollars tomorrow during the show, and that shal 35 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.719 will start at one pm East Coast tin. It will 36 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:02.319 go I don't know, three four five dollars as long 37 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:07.719 as it takes right and hopefully you guys can join. 38 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.159 You can come for the whole thing if you want. 39 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:13.520 You can come just pop in and pop out, as 40 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:18.080 long as you leave some dollars while you're here. You 41 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.240 can you can go in and out, you can do 42 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.960 what you want. We'll be here and we'll be raising 43 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:28.360 their money. Fifteen thousand dollars requires thirty people to contribute 44 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.400 five hundred dollars each. That's one way we can get there. 45 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:33.879 Five hundred dollars, I think is the limit you can 46 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:36.759 do in super Chat, so you can do it in 47 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:40.319 one time. You can ask ten fifty dollars questions. Of course, 48 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:43.000 you can also contribute two dollars and one dollar and 49 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:48.199 five dollars anything. Everything is welcome, everything is appreciated. But 50 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:52.280 I know, I know that among my listeners live and 51 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:56.400 not live combined, there are many, many more than thirty 52 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.400 people who can afford to do five hundred dollars. It 53 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:01.840 works out to be about a buck twenty five a 54 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:03.599 show if you look at all the shows I've done 55 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:09.319 during the year. And so I'm hoping that we can 56 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:11.560 find thirty people who do five hundred, and then everybody 57 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.840 else just adds on to that and we raise a 58 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:19.759 lot more than fifteen thousand, which would be truly fantastic. Okay, tomorrow, 59 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:21.519 well let's talk about goals for next year. We'll talk 60 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:26.439 about a summary of this year, how the show is done. Views, 61 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:30.199 I was watched all of that data, how many how 62 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.000 many shows I did live, how many videos are put up. 63 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:37.040 All of that will cover tomorrow in addition to just 64 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:40.920 doing a year in review show, which should be fun. 65 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.480 All Right, today we're going to talk about immigration when 66 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:48.920 I'm going to talk about the current obviously the current 67 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.839 challenge with the current or let's say the current storm 68 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.079 around regulation H one B. So we'll talk a little 69 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:57.720 bit about that, but that's not going to be the focus. 70 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:03.319 The focus is going to be the entire system. And look, 71 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:08.360 if there's anything that everybody agrees about that everybody agrees 72 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:12.399 about with regard to the immigration system, everybody agrees on 73 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.360 is that it's completely broken. It's been broken for a 74 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:20.439 long long time. It's been broken for probably since nineteen 75 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:25.439 twenty four. It certainly has been broken over the last 76 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.720 thirty years. There have been a few attempts that didn't 77 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:33.600 last very long to fix it, but politics in Washington 78 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:40.560 has not allowed any kind of comprehensive rethinking, comprehensive approach 79 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:45.040 to tackling the entire issue of immigration. So I today 80 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.839 I am going to give you a blueprint at least 81 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.519 for tackling the entire thing. I want to simplify it all, 82 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:54.399 I want to make it really simple and give a 83 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.560 solution to what should be the immigration policy. How do 84 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.639 we proceed, how do we make it easy, simple, straight forward, 85 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.600 and in a way that well, I mean, some people 86 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.000 will never be happy no matter what we do, but 87 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:12.759 in a way that hopefully can address the concerns of 88 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.879 all the different constituencies out there. Not the final policy, 89 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:22.160 but my explanation and my justification for it. Hopefully we'll 90 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:25.199 cover that. So the system is broken today. We know 91 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:33.839 that it is insanity to watch video of hundreds of 92 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:37.439 thousands of people and ultimately millions of people showing up 93 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:41.120 on the Southern Board of the United States just walking across, 94 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:43.839 some of them with the hope of not being caught, 95 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.360 and somehow escaping into the United States and living here 96 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:55.040 in the shadows, living here illegally, finding jobs employers who 97 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.759 are willing to employ them illegally, with employers taking on 98 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.839 a real risk and the employees taking huge risk. And 99 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.160 of course Trump, now I was talking about deporting all 100 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:07.600 these illegals, and there's somewhere between twelve and twenty illegal 101 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.519 million illegal immigrants in the United States to day. I mean, 102 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:16.720 that's crazy, that's crazy, and particularly considering the fact that 103 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.639 these illegal immigrants are all working. They can't get welfare, 104 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:26.759 so they're all working. So here are twelve million people. 105 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:29.759 You know, some of them are kids on them espouses, 106 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.680 but a significant number of them are working. And yet 107 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:35.639 they have to be in the shadows. They have to hide, 108 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.040 and the employers have to hide, and the employers have 109 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.240 to be worried about being caught. And you've got this 110 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:47.120 entire gray, black economy going on in the United States 111 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:54.120 of America, the Land of the Free. That's just insane. 112 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:55.879 And then, of course you've got all these people across 113 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.800 the border and they immediately go up to the border 114 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:02.920 police and say, I'm here first asylum. Why are they 115 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.439 crossing the border in unmarked, random locations in order to 116 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.360 seek asylum. Why isn't there a system by which they 117 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:14.240 can seek asylum wherever they live or on some place 118 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:17.160 outside the United States for the United States to decide? 119 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:21.480 And why why is asylum so special? You know that 120 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:28.040 we've got millions of people seeking asylum? What makes asylum special? 121 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:35.399 Why is it worthy of you know, of entering the 122 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.960 United States versus other things that are not is? And 123 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.200 should it be a priority of the United States except 124 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:46.759 people who are asylum seekers, What does the whole issue 125 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.080 of asylum have to do with, let's say American self interest? 126 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:59.159 And then uh, the the uh these asylum seekers they 127 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:03.799 come into the United stas States, the court system that 128 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.159 people who approve asylum cases can't cope with the shin 129 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.320 number of people, so they are put up a taxpayer's 130 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:16.799 expense in all kinds of places. Taxpayers are paying them 131 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:19.080 not to work. They're not a lot of work, at 132 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:22.440 least for months after they arrive, So they're on the 133 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.879 dole of the government for months and months and months 134 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:29.480 or some on them maybe forever, I don't know. And yeah, 135 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:32.960 I mean it makes complete sense that people would resent 136 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:37.720 this and and find this inappropriate. Why these people coming here? 137 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:40.840 What does asylum have to do with me? And why 138 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.039 should I pay their way? Why should I pay for them? 139 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.679 And then it turns out that some of these asylum 140 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.399 seekers are left in the country even though they have 141 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:53.559 criminal records or being accused of crimes or maybe are 142 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:57.240 gang members. How's the system working? And it's very difficult 143 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:00.639 to get, of course, objective news about this, because the 144 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:02.840 left spins it one way and the right spins it 145 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.000 another way, and it's very hard to actually figure out, okay, 146 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.720 actually what's going on? And then if you actually look 147 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.559 at legal immigration in the United States, a vast majority 148 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.840 of legal status green cards are granted in the United 149 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:23.919 States to family reunification, to family members of people who 150 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:27.519 are already here on work visas and other things. Is 151 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:35.080 that the right priority? Is that? Again, like asylum, is 152 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.399 that the best we can do? You know, the parents, 153 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.720 and I don't think you go to cousins and stuff, 154 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.120 but at least even immediate family. Is this how we 155 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.399 actually want to do it with the majority? Is that? 156 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:49.840 And then if you want to come into the United 157 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:56.840 States legally, legally, and you want to come here not 158 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:02.480 for asylum and not through family, but you actually want 159 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:07.559 to come here because you believe in America. You love America, 160 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.840 you value the ideas of America. You want to live 161 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:13.679 in America, and you want to work in America. You 162 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:15.480 want to be productive in America. You want to actually 163 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:17.440 get a job in America. Maybe you even have a 164 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:29.759 job offer. Well, the system is unbelievably complicated, unbelievably convoluted. 165 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.879 I mean, here's a graph. I think you've probably seen this. 166 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.799 I know Augustina has shown this. Augustina works at the 167 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:40.559 Institut Sony in the past. You've probably seen it. This 168 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.720 is a graphrod uced by Cato of the different paths 169 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:45.799 you would have to take and the different folks in 170 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:48.879 the world you would have to take for any one 171 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.240 of these for just baseline requirements. And then you've got 172 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.120 a refugee. There's a silent program, and then diversity a lottery. 173 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.399 There's a lottery for countries that don't typically get people 174 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.159 into the United States. There is a lot of why 175 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.480 why why. A lot of it is that the best 176 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:05.000 we can do, and so is it letting people into 177 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.240 the United States is by a lot of we by chance, 178 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.879 by and and and uh. And then there's a ah, 179 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:16.000 you know, family sponsorship, and then there's self sponsorship, and 180 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.159 then there's employer sponsorship, uh, you know, and and uh, 181 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.960 employee sponsorship with no pervading wage, and employee sponsorship with 182 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.240 a prevailing wage. In each one of these. Look at 183 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.159 the employee sponsorship ones in the in particular, unbelievably complex, 184 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:37.519 unbelievably bureaucratic, unbelievable amounts of time and money. Money. That's 185 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.360 one thing they don't talk about with the H one 186 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.360 B program. It costs a lot of money for companies 187 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:45.279 to hire people from each one into H one B programs. 188 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:50.600 They have to be good otherwise why is the company 189 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:53.159 spending so much money and going through all this convoluted process. 190 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:55.679 And when you see graph like this, you know that 191 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:59.559 the only real winners of anything like that are lawyers. 192 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:05.679 Complexity is is the friend of lawyers. But you get 193 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:10.639 an unbelievably be convoluted system, a system that actually penalizes 194 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:12.960 people who are coming here to work and to pursue careers. 195 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:15.960 If they get an H one B they're stuck with 196 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.000 the same employer. They can't switch employers. So you know, 197 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.000 the criticism of them being kind of indigo cerviture civiture 198 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:27.559 in indigerous servitude is an exaggeration and false and wrong. 199 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:32.440 But there's a sudden you know, there's a sudden aspect 200 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:34.399 of that, that's right. You know, how can how can 201 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:37.639 you not be allowed to switch jobs? And why should 202 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.440 you not be allowed to switch jobs? Isn't the point 203 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.960 having a job? No, because that's not the point, you know, 204 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.080 as we'll see, it's it's it's not about the point. 205 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:51.879 That's not the point at all. And of course, all 206 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:57.679 this legal immigration system is handicapped by restrictions that supposedly 207 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:01.480 amend to protect Americans' jobs and income, not to put 208 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.399 any downward pressure on wages, not to reduce the number 209 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:10.279 of jobs available to Americans. So that adds layers and 210 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:12.559 layers of complexity to all this. If your job is 211 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:17.120 to advertise to Americans, there are one hundred and eighty 212 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.679 five I read this some way. I haven't verified this, 213 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.919 but one hundred and eighty five different non immigrant and 214 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.679 immigrant visa categories, different categories by which you can come 215 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:30.360 into the United States. One hundred and eighty five. I'm 216 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:35.440 going to suggest reducing that number to three, three categories 217 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:40.200 of visas. That's it, nothing more. And maybe I'm missing 218 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:44.440 some stuff, maybe it lands up to be ten, but 219 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.200 three major categories, and then we can talk about maybe 220 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:51.559 there's some things that I've missed. And of course, all 221 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:56.919 of this creates for the immigrant and for the employers, 222 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:05.000 you know, just mass of you know, massive unsuttainty, massive uncertainty. 223 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.360 How am I going to get a visa? Will my 224 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.600 visa get renewed? Can I switch jobs? What's the cost 225 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.320 of that? How much money can I make in America? 226 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:17.440 How long can I be there can I bring my 227 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:25.159 family over endless, endless complexity, which leads to real angst 228 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:28.879 and real uncertainty, and the consequence of that. Part of 229 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.639 the consequence of that is, well, we get to the 230 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.960 consequences in the wall. But suddenly think about other people 231 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:37.000 who don't come to America would like to come to America. 232 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:42.039 Say it's just too too complicated, too hard. Why would I? 233 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:46.519 I mean, this is insane. And then you know, so 234 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:51.120 the immigration policy we have today has no clear priorities. 235 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:52.879 If you look at the numbers, it looks like the 236 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:57.799 only priority we have is family reunification and maybe asylum refugee. 237 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.120 But other than that nothing. And by the way, this 238 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:05.120 cylmonar refuge stuff is all part of treaties that the 239 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:10.440 United States is signal to the tool too and has 240 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:18.000 to fulfill that supposedly. Right, So one thing is clear, 241 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.840 and I think everybody can agree on. Current policy is insane. 242 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:27.120 It's crazy, it's divisive, it's polarizing. It's and we'll talk 243 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:31.120 about why it's polarizing in a minute. It feeds into 244 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:38.519 special interest groups, pressure groups, it feeds lawyers, and it 245 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:43.799 is not not good for Americans, and it's not good 246 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:48.480 for immigrants. It's not good for either party both. Everybody 247 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.840 is basically frustrated and upset by the system, and they 248 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.039 should be. The system is insane, the system is nuts, 249 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:59.480 and I would say fundamentally, the system is unjust. People 250 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:01.799 who should be able to come to this country and 251 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.400 cannot come to this country, and the standards by which 252 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.920 we bring them in or people come in and are 253 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:14.079 not coming in seem and are to leguns stand completely arbitrary. 254 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.960 They're no priorities, there's no strategy, there's no thinking, there's 255 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:24.079 no prioritization, there's no what is America? What does an 256 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:28.359 American thing to do? What is the thing consistent with 257 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:37.200 American ideals, with American interests? What is the policy that's 258 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.599 consistent with American ideals and American interests look like? So 259 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.680 that's what we want to do today. We want to 260 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:49.079 look for an immigration policy that is consistent with the 261 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:54.559 preservation of American ideals and what America is, in particular 262 00:17:54.599 --> 00:18:01.599 the ideal of individual rights. A policy it supports and 263 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:07.359 improves the economy and culture of America and that does 264 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.759 not create a just a political disaster, does not create 265 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:16.720 a political disaster. So that is that is the kind 266 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:21.079 of policy that I think we need. It's a kind 267 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:26.000 of policy that you know, I don't know that most 268 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:31.000 Americans or Americans will agree even with that formulation. Certainly 269 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:35.079 nobody's trying to I'm not trying to please the haters 270 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.240 of America, and I'm not trying to please you know, 271 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.519 those are the let's say call them the radical left. 272 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.720 And I'm not trying to please the racists who there's 273 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:53.440 no pleasing and by definition they're already anti America, anti American. 274 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:01.680 All right, So we have unbelieve irrational policy today. It's 275 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:06.640 it's completely insane again. It's it prioritizes, no priority or 276 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:10.559 poetis is what seemingly is the wrong thing. It's creating 277 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.839 havoc and mayhem at the borda Uh. It's creating havoc 278 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:19.160 and mayhem for immigrants who come here legally and don't 279 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.920 know what their status really is, and uncertainty and and 280 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:25.240 you know, and the story is unbelievable. I mean, the 281 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:28.920 bureaucracy built around immigration is just unbelievable. I'm sure you've 282 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:32.759 heard stories. I'll tell you one which I think is funny, sad, 283 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:38.119 and and you know, probably not the worst. This is 284 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.640 just an example. This is just an example of stupid 285 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:44.400 bureaucracy at play. Right, this is this is an example, 286 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:48.200 it's a personal example of stupid buocracy play, but it's 287 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:53.039 it's typical of the system. So this is what happens 288 00:19:53.519 --> 00:20:00.279 on a trivial, small, insignificant issue. Then just imagine when 289 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:04.240 what you're really dealing with is your future, your career, 290 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:09.279 your life, in some cases, your life when you're running 291 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:15.400 away from certain regimes. So here's the story. It's a 292 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.759 short story, personal. It has to do with me and 293 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:21.920 my wife. So years ago, this is a long long 294 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.759 time ago. My kids were I think like two and 295 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.319 four or two and five or three and six, something 296 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.759 like that. They were little, and my wife went to 297 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:38.200 do a sculpture a program in France for a few weeks, 298 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.319 and she was it was she went and she did 299 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:46.359 the program and she was heading back home, and it 300 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:49.640 was during the time my visa had just been renewed, 301 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:53.359 so I was on I can't remember an L one 302 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.680 or an H one B or one of these visa programs. 303 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:58.519 I can't remember which one, and my visa been renewed, 304 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:03.400 but you can know, you know I hadn't I didn't 305 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.920 have my passport stamped within you. I had all the paperwork, 306 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.119 but I didn't have the stamp in the passport because 307 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.480 you not to get the stamp in the passport. The 308 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:13.200 idea was, I had to leave the United States and 309 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:16.640 come back in, and when you know, when I left 310 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.279 the United States, I had to go to consulate and 311 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.640 get the stamp. Only then I could come in anyway. 312 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.599 So I didn't have the visa renewed in my passport, 313 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.920 but I had the visa all the paperwork officially. So 314 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:31.759 she took all that paperwork and with her passport and 315 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:36.319 she went to the American embassy in Paris and she said, 316 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:41.359 here's all the paperwork, visa has been renewed, and I 317 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:46.359 need to get back home. And the people there said, 318 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:51.759 well you can't. You know why here's all the paperwork 319 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.680 the visas being approved. Well, because you know you're not 320 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:58.240 You're not the primary visa holder. Your husband's a primary 321 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.759 visa holder. We can't approve your without approving his without 322 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.400 we can't stamp your passport with the visa without stamping 323 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:06.400 his passport with the visa. So he has to come 324 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:10.920 to Paris to get his passport stamped, and then only 325 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:12.880 then can we stamp your passport and you can go home. 326 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:15.759 And she was like, really, he has to come to 327 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.160 Paris to do that, and you know, and she's going 328 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.920 back and forth and pretty upset, right, I mean, she's 329 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.240 stuck in Paris now, got you know, I've got two 330 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.480 small kids. She doesn't know when she's gonna be able 331 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:29.920 to come back. How am I going to leave them 332 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:32.559 and come to Paris? It's expensive to come to Paris 333 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:36.160 those days, didn't have a lot of money. How do 334 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:41.599 you do that? Right? So, so basically she finally gets 335 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:43.559 them to say, no, well, what he really needs to 336 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:47.640 do is he needs to leave the United States in 337 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.599 order to get his passport stamped and then send us 338 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.440 the passport, and then you bring his passport with you 339 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.319 and we can we can get it all done, all right. 340 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.559 I mean, that's some insane I call up. I literally 341 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.160 called up the state departments, said, okay, I've been approved 342 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:07.640 to the visa. Is there any state department office I 343 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:09.640 can go to anywhere in the US where I can 344 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:12.799 get this visa stamped in my passport And they were like, no, 345 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:15.559 we don't stamp passports. The only way you can do 346 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.079 this is you have to leave the United States, go 347 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.720 to consulate and get the pastline. I said, look, I've 348 00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:23.119 got small kids. My wife's stuck in Paris, da da 349 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.720 da not interested. They don't care. Go you have to 350 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.880 leave the United States, come back in, take the kids, 351 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:33.720 doesn't matter, you know whatever, right, Okay. So I'm like, okay, 352 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.279 So I guess I'll have to travel to Mexico and 353 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.680 get go to consulate and get my passport stamps. I 354 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:46.519 call up what's the the city across the border from 355 00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:50.319 San Diego, that's the closest Mexican place, closest consulate outside 356 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.400 the United States. I call them up and they say, hey, 357 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.039 I need to come and get my passport stamped. Can 358 00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:59.240 I make an appointment to come because I need to 359 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:03.200 come do it and and leave and and everything. Tijuana, 360 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.839 Thank you Tijuana. So so they say, oh, yeah, of 361 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:08.640 course you can do that. We can make you an 362 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:11.279 appointment and you can come. We'll stamp the thing, and 363 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:13.559 then yeah, you can go back to the United States. 364 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:16.480 And said, great, I want to come tomorrow. And so 365 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.400 oh no, no, no, you know, we don't have any point, 366 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:22.839 but tomorrow it's going to be three months. I said, 367 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.599 what my wife's in Paris, my kids? What am I? 368 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.000 You insane? I can't. I can't delay this with three months. 369 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.200 That is crazy. That's the way it is. There's no 370 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:37.200 no exceptions, there's nothing we can do, all right. So 371 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:43.000 I call hua Is and and hua Is. They say, yeah, 372 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:48.160 we don't make appointments. She can come. We might be 373 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:49.920 able to see you, might not be able to see you. 374 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.799 There's usually a long line starts early in the morning. 375 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.680 Some people actually sleep over and and and you can 376 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:58.640 and you can try this, but you can come over 377 00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:01.480 and uh yeah, yeah, stand in line. Hua Is jua 378 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:05.240 Is opposite Alpaso, right, And I'm like, why is rough? 379 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.279 Do I? And how long am I going to be 380 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:09.440 stuck there? We don't know, we can't guarantee anything. We 381 00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:15.319 don't make appointments. It's not possible, all right. So Mexico 382 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.599 seems out. So I called Vancouver. I mean, notice this, 383 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.039 I'm like panicking here, like how am I going to 384 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:25.119 make this happen? I call Vancouver. I can't remember what 385 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.920 Vancouver said. I think you're said away three months or 386 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:33.079 something for an appointment. Couldn't get Vancouver. Finally called Calgary. Calgary, 387 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:35.640 the Consulate said, yeah, sure, well, we can make an 388 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.640 appointment for tomorrow morning or the day after whatever, whatever 389 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.599 the date was. You can come in and get this 390 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:45.599 stuff done, and yep, you're good. You're good to go, say, 391 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.640 got a babysitter, got on a plane, flew to Calgary. 392 00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:52.119 Luckily they let me in Canada. I'm not sure why 393 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:54.960 they let me in Canada, can't remember what the reason was. 394 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.480 Got into Canada, spent the night in Calgary. First thing 395 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:01.000 in the morning, went to consulate, had a ointment. They 396 00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:05.759 stamped all my forms, buck everything was fine, went and 397 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.079 I think I got my passport photocopied and all the 398 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.319 films photocopied, put them in an envelope, FedEx them to 399 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.680 Paris to my wife. Got on a plane, headed back 400 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:18.079 to California, got my kids, and my wife then took 401 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.400 all of that. I mean, this is and this is 402 00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:24.119 like okay, So it took a few days. It was. 403 00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:34.400 It was really stressful, bureaucratic, stupid, nutty, crazy stuff. But 404 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:38.160 that's just for something simple way I did being approved 405 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:43.039 and everything. There are real tragedies out there, a real stories, 406 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:53.599 real disasters. So this system god the only beneficiaries. If 407 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.680 you want to call them that are the bureaucrats of 408 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:59.839 the people to thrive on making your life hell by 409 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.240 jumping through all kinds of stupid, unnecessary hoops, like at 410 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.519 the State Department where they won't stamp your passport in 411 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.519 a State Department office in the United States. And that 412 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:18.960 was thirty years ago. It's a lot worse today. Remember, 413 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.920 I'm an immigrant. So when I graduated with PhD. So first, 414 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.000 when I graduated in an NBA, nobody really wanted to 415 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.160 hire me. I had good grade, good grades, good you know, 416 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:35.160 undergrad good undergrad and engineering undergrad head an NBA. Everybody 417 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:38.319 was like, yeah, we could hire you on if you're 418 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.799 an American, we'd hire you like that. But it's expensive 419 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.079 to get you authorized and get you a wook permit 420 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.000 and all that, and we can hire all these Americans here, 421 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.079 why would we go through that? So it was really 422 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.000 I mean, I probably would have found a job ultimately, 423 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:55.960 but it was really really tough and very depressing. I 424 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.319 mean there were moments there where I thought, well, I 425 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.720 have to go back to Israel. What's gonna happen here? 426 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.799 And then I got my PhD and then I finally 427 00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:11.000 got a job offer after PhD by university and the 428 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.319 universities have this routine. But so first I had to 429 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:19.440 get a visa for practical training for a year, and 430 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.039 then once the practical training was over, they applied for 431 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:23.559 I think it was an either on each one be 432 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:29.279 on l one l one like exceptional ability visa. I 433 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.519 think that's what it was. And then I had reknew 434 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:37.519 that once and then I got a green card, and 435 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.559 then after five years with the green card, I got citizenship. 436 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:43.839 So I arrived in the US in nineteen eighty seven. 437 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.839 I got my saizenship in two thousand and three. It 438 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:52.839 took me sixteen years, and it was relatively speaking, pretty smooth, 439 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:57.480 but that's unusual and rare. I was lucky, and partially 440 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.599 because I had a PhD made life Visia anyway. Rotten system. 441 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.160 It's broken, it doesn't make any sense. And one other 442 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:12.160 aspects of this, which I think is really really really 443 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:16.119 important and really at the heart of it all, is 444 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:20.200 that the system is a massive violation of rights. It 445 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.960 is the government use of using its course of power 446 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:29.039 to violate the rights of Americans and non Americans. Certainly, 447 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:36.240 one human right is to move by what by what 448 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:41.000 authority does anybody constrain my ability to live somewhere other 449 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:46.400 than where I want to live? By what authority do 450 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:51.839 I go somewhere else? Can I not travel just because 451 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.559 there's an opportuary line. There's a line there that says 452 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.920 there's a border. Why can't I cross it? Am I 453 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.079 violating somebody's by crossing it? No? Then why does the 454 00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:09.960 government have any any right authority over me? And if 455 00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:13.839 you think about the rights of Americans, if I, as 456 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:17.039 an American, want to invite a friend over to visit, 457 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.400 he now has to go get a visa. I want 458 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:28.200 to hire a brilliant scientist from Thailand. Why is that 459 00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:33.480 the government's job to tell me I can't? You know, 460 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.160 I want to rent my hotel room to somebody who's 461 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.279 visiting the United States or come here to work, or 462 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.640 come here to find the job. Why is it the 463 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:46.799 government's business to tell me I can't rent to that person. 464 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:55.039 So we have here a system of coercion immigration law, which, 465 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.200 at least since nineteen twenty four, really before that, starting 466 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:04.240 with the Chinese Exclusion Act, has been engaged in violating 467 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:11.200 individual rights, violating the rights of Americans to interact, to associate, 468 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:17.880 to employ whomever they want, and that's at the core 469 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.920 of it. That's why we have the disaster that we have. 470 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:30.960 All right, So let's talk about why why do we 471 00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:37.720 have this system that we have today? What has caused it? 472 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:39.880 And it didn't start today again, It's started in nineteen 473 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:44.359 twenty four with under Coolidge. So this is why I 474 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.680 don't think Coolidge was one of the great presidents. Certainly 475 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.599 this law, you know, excludes him from the ranks of 476 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.119 top presidents of all time. He did some other things 477 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:03.039 that are good. This is really horrible. In nineteen twenty 478 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:06.640 four dramatically restricted immigration to the United States. And you 479 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.519 have to remember that before that, basically through the nineteenth 480 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.119 century and into the early twentieth century again with a 481 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:19.039 few exclusions like the Chinese Exclusion Act and a few others, 482 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:24.160 there were very, very very few restrictions and immigration. Initially, 483 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.000 anybody could come anytime, anywhere, no restrictions. Then there were 484 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:34.960 certain restrictions based on infectious diseases and maybe suspicion of 485 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.559 criminal activity, but other than that you could come in 486 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.920 Ellis Island. Everybody was free to come in if they 487 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:46.359 were not sick. And that all changed dramatically for the 488 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.599 first time, dramatically in nineteen twenty four, again, although the 489 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.640 seeds already been planted in previous in previous laws, and 490 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.400 you can find Augustina has a really has a really 491 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.160 good she was on the show we talked about this, 492 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.039 but also she has some talks that she's given that 493 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.240 excellent on the history of the immigration and how we 494 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.400 got to where we are. So I want to talk 495 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.319 about a little bit about the things that people say, 496 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:19.880 the reasons why they both object to immigration or they 497 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:25.039 want to restrict immigration in the way that we have 498 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:31.359 restricted immigration. So let's let's talk about some of the 499 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.279 opposition to immigration, some of the sources of opposition to immigration, 500 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.319 legal immigration. We're talking about the objection to basically legalized immigration, 501 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.400 to letting people come in as it was in the 502 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.799 late nine early twentieth century, and of course it was 503 00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.160 restricted in nineteen twenty four. So so none of these are new. 504 00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.279 All of these go back then. All of these are 505 00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.200 common with you know what people help back then, It's 506 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.319 not that different, and it's only gotten worse today in 507 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.960 the sense that America is less connected to its funding 508 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.000 principles and funding ideas, it's less connected to the idea 509 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.480 of individual rights. That's less important to them. But also 510 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.760 we know so much more today, and yet they still 511 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:21.480 hold to some pretty false, easily provably false ideas that 512 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:27.519 still shape their attitudes towards immigration. So what causes people's 513 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:31.280 resentment towards immigration and wanting to restrict it and and 514 00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:40.719 ultimately cause this ult incredible complexity And we'll see, we'll 515 00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.480 talk about that first. I think a big part of 516 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:48.079 it is fear. As we said, we said many times 517 00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:52.800 on the show, fear is an incredibly powerful emotion. And 518 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.960 people afraid, the afraid of people who look different than themselves, 519 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.960 who have different cultures than themselves, who behave in different 520 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:08.320 ways than themselves. They're afraid of the difference. They're afraid 521 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.480 of we'll do to their life. There is a certain 522 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:17.760 there's a certain sense in which people today, you know, 523 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.199 are comfortable in the you know, in the way things are, 524 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.360 and they don't like change. Their Iron Land has a 525 00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.280 famous essay about the divine right of stagnation. They're comfortable, 526 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:40.159 and change is upset. They're afraid because they believe, as 527 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.840 we'll talk about, you know, they believe falsely, but they believe, 528 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.800 and they be taught and intellectuals have supported the idea 529 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.800 that the job market, for example, is the Zoo sum game, 530 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.360 and any immigrants who comes in and takes a job, 531 00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.320 it's at your expense. An American will lose his job. 532 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.280 They believe that wealth is a zero sum game, and 533 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:08.159 an American who comes here and succeeds is succeeding at 534 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:12.079 somebody else's expense. It means somebody else is poor, somebody 535 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:18.119 else has lost. Americans, tragically, sadly, horrifically, have bought into 536 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:24.159 kind of a European Marxist perspective. Even people on the right, 537 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.400 even people who claim not to be Marxist or anti 538 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:32.599 Marxist or anti woke, anti left, have bought into an 539 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:39.039 idea of zero some economics, that everything, everybody, somebody else's 540 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:44.719 success is also at your expense, and therefore jobs of 541 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:52.559 finite and limited and constraint. Wealth is finite, limited and constraint. Now, 542 00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.960 you know, we'll talk about even if that were true, 543 00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.559 whether that would justify this, But we'll talk about that 544 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:04.880 in a minute. And then there is this view that 545 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.400 even Milton Friedman argued that given that we have a 546 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.519 welfare state, all these people are gonna come and they're 547 00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.559 just gonna they're just gonna leach off of the welfare state. 548 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.519 This is gonna leach massively off of the welfare state, 549 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:25.559 and as a consequence, they are going to, you know, 550 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:29.760 basically bankrupt the country. They're gonna destroy this country because 551 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:33.360 they're gonna be all on welfare and it's just gonna 552 00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:39.280 be horrific. And the people who come here are gonna 553 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.000 come for welfare and you can't do that. You can't 554 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:48.239 have a welfare state and open immigration or large numbers 555 00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:53.000 of immigrants. And then you know, this is true, I 556 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.800 think in the nineteen twenties, and it's true again today 557 00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:01.440 they've been told and they feel yeah, and again I 558 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:09.039 think these are all irrational fears that immigrants are criminals, 559 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.760 the terrorists. They rape and plunder and kill and murder, 560 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.559 and crime rates are going through the roof because of immigrants, 561 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.000 and you know, you know it's irrational fear by the 562 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.119 fact that you can show them the data and the 563 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:27.440 statistics and you can show that that's not true, that 564 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:29.519 none of that is happening, and it doesn't matter. That 565 00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:33.719 doesn't affect them, data doesn't affect them. One crime committed 566 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:42.840 by an immigrant is enough to justify banning them, and 567 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.199 the same with terrorism. Terrorists are going to come there's 568 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.639 a security threat. Now you can imagine there's a real 569 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:52.000 there's a real issue here. They could be criminals coming 570 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.159 across the board. It could be gang members coming across 571 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.880 the board, and there certainly could be terrorists coming in 572 00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:01.679 across the board. So they really is an issue of 573 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:19.239 terrorism and so on. So fear, fear of irrational economics, fear, 574 00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.239 you know, maybe there's more rationality here of them just 575 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.280 milking the welfare state and you're getting the kind of 576 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.440 people that want the welfare state and also bankrupting the country. 577 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.199 And fear of a crime and terrorism, and you know, 578 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.280 there's some even though the data doesn't support an increase 579 00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:40.360 in crime because of immigration. Indeed, there's a decrease in 580 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.719 crime on a capita basis due to immigration. Immigrants are 581 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:51.639 generally significantly less criminal than Americans. But the fear is there, 582 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:57.480 and and certainly all this needs to be addressed. But 583 00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.320 deeper than that, there is a there's been a change 584 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.559 in the American culture. Even if it's true that an 585 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:09.320 immigrant would take your job, even if it's true that 586 00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.440 immigrants lowered wages, and for some people they might some 587 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:17.440 people might be competed out of jobs. Some people might 588 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:22.960 see their wages declined. You do not have a right 589 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.320 to a particular wage. You do not have a right 590 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:33.320 to a particular job. You have a right to interview 591 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.760 for a job and try to get it. You don't 592 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:37.400 even even have a right to be interviewed. 593 00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:41.239 You have a right to pursue a job, you have 594 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:47.960 a right to try to keep the job, but you 595 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:49.400 don't have a right to the job. 596 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.719 You don't have a right to be protected from competition. 597 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.719 You don't have ver right to be a protective competition 598 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:02.480 either by von goods on products from employees or by 599 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:05.679 people coming here and competing with you. Next, though, what 600 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.920 about people who just moved from you know, And this 601 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.480 was a real issue in early twenty century America when 602 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:16.320 black started moving from the South into the North and 603 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:21.079 competing with whites for jobs in the North. That was 604 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.199 people freaked out because there was competition for their jobs 605 00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:29.400 by Americans happened to be of different skin color, but 606 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:36.079 by Americans, and people flipped out. So they think they 607 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.000 have a right. This is the entitlement mentality that is 608 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:44.159 so sadly dominant in America today. I'm entitled to my job. 609 00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:49.360 I'm entitled to a wage, I'm entitled to my stand 610 00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.559 of living, I'm entitled to live this life. This is 611 00:41:51.639 --> 00:42:03.840 so un American, so un American, and yet you know, 612 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:20.119 this is this is what Americans hold today. Another fear 613 00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.960 is that immigrants will fundamentally change our culture. We're pretty 614 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:32.639 good culture today, and immigrants will bring their culture here, 615 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:39.119 an American culture will disappear. But again, is there real 616 00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.400 understanding of what makes American America? What makes American culture 617 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:48.880 American culture, what the principles on which this country has founded, 618 00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:53.360 and therefore, what is American? I know, you know jd 619 00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.719 Vance has said that America is not an idea, It's 620 00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:01.360 a people. But America is an idea. What makes the 621 00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.360 people of America special? And I think they're special. And 622 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.119 I think America is special. I think it's exceptional, not 623 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:12.800 because of its geography, not because of its people, but 624 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.880 because of the ideas that have animated this country, the 625 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.480 people in this country, the ideas that have seeped into 626 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.079 the sense of life of the people in this country, 627 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:38.719 the ideas that make America America. And you know, so 628 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.880 they worry that the culture will be destroyed. These ideas 629 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:52.239 ultimately will be destroyed. But I would ask why why 630 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:56.599 would you worry about that? If the ideas that America holds, 631 00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:01.639 if the culture of America is so good, why won't 632 00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:05.880 it dominate the immigrants. Didn't it do that for one 633 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.199 hundred and fifty years the beginning of America before nineteen 634 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:15.320 twenty four. Didn't immigrants assimilate? Did they become part of America? 635 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.360 Didn't they adopt fundamentally the ideas of America, business of 636 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:24.480 life of America. I mean, like it or not, This 637 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:27.400 is a country of immigrants. What percentage of the population 638 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:33.360 can trace its roots back to seventeenth century first immigrants 639 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.159 to America, even they were immigrants, but first settlers in 640 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:45.280 America very few. So the culture, the achievements, isn't much 641 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:52.800 of American culture really established by immigrants. Think of the 642 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.760 movies that we love. How many of those movies, particularly 643 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.239 older movies, how many of those were made by immigrants 644 00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.039 post World War Two? Many of German and European directors, 645 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.039 really pre World War Two came from America and made 646 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.119 movies here and really made Hollywood what it is today, 647 00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:20.000 really made Hollywood into the powerhouse that it is. And 648 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:28.039 you know, much of the musicians, the classical musicians certainly, 649 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.400 who came to this country and created the great orchestra 650 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.480 and the great symphonies, the great conductors, that's all culture. 651 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:43.079 Those are all immigrants. So where is this American culture 652 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:48.400 that is harmed by immigrants? Our food has only gotten 653 00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.320 better because of immigrants, because of the diversity of food 654 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.880 that they brought in, the expertise, the flavors, the spices. 655 00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:08.760 And if anything, don't immigrants revitalize, revitalize kind of the 656 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:15.039 American energy spirit of entrepreneurship, risk taking. I mean, it 657 00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.320 certainly looks like it. If you look at the number 658 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:19.800 of entrepreneurs or immigrants, if you look at Silicon Valley, 659 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.280 how many startup CEOs or startup founders were immigrants. It 660 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:32.800 certainly seems like they're revitalizing that spirit. And if we 661 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.199 want to convey the idea of the greatness of American 662 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:41.159 ideas of what made America great, if those ideas are 663 00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:45.760 so powerful, then they would dominate any ideas the immigrants have. 664 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.159 We would win the cultural challenge that the immigrants supposedly 665 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:57.639 present to us. Immigrant groups over and over again throughout 666 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:03.039 the last couple of cent assimilate very quickly by every 667 00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:06.599 measure of assimilation. Within a generation or two, they're completely American. 668 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:13.159 Now we'll be told that they will sway politics, that 669 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.960 they were bringing the politics of their home country to 670 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:23.400 the United States. And there's a sense in which that 671 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.440 is true. They bring the ideas sometimes of the home country, 672 00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.639 and we better have ideas that can challenge those. We 673 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.880 better have ideas that are better. We better be able 674 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:38.400 to articulate those ideas of what is American, what America represents, 675 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.599 in order to assimilate them into us. They're probably the 676 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.199 worst immigrants in all of American history. The most damaging 677 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.320 immigrants of all in American history are not the illegal 678 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.920 immigrants crossing over from Mexico. The worst immigrants in all 679 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.480 of American history are German immigrants. The progressive movement was 680 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:05.280 founded on German immigrants who brought German ideas, destructive German ideas, 681 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:10.280 into America and weren't challenged by Americans, and they won 682 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:16.159 the day, and the consequence of that was still feeling. 683 00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:22.719 But immigrants, mostly immigrants come today, don't come with much 684 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.199 many ideas. Most of them are not very intellectual, and 685 00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.639 we will shape them by what ideas we as Americans. 686 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.159 We hold and we'll talk about this, but you can't 687 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:40.679 separate out the need for improved education from the whole 688 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:47.440 immigration question. And then finally, well not finally, but one 689 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.360 of the point is look, and we have to face this, 690 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.960 particularly given the latest discussions in H one B Visas 691 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:59.400 and El un Musque versus Mega. There is a lot 692 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.000 of racism in America. It's worse, maybe than it has 693 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.280 been in a very long time. It maybe is not 694 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.760 focused anymore on blacks or other people of color within America. 695 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.239 It's not focused on immigrants Indians in the case of 696 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:21.360 the H one B debate. But what that debate showed 697 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:29.760 is extent of xenophobia and racism, and that needs to 698 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:36.239 be abandoned. That is a bad reason to restrict immigration 699 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.400 because there are some people who happen to be racist. 700 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.719 Now there's one other issue, one of the false rassial 701 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:50.119 if you will, for the mess that we have in 702 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:54.519 terms of immigration. But I think ultimately it is the 703 00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:58.719 reason why we have such a mess, why we cannot 704 00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:03.800 find resolution, and why our immigration system is so convoluted 705 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.199 and complex and absurd, Why we have one hundred and 706 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.559 what or would I say eighty one hundred and eighty 707 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:17.639 five different types of visas. It's because immigration, because the 708 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.679 government has stepped into the immigration field and tried to 709 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:26.000 regulate it. It's become like almost any other area in 710 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.480 which the government regulates. It's become a place where they 711 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:34.159 are winners and losers. Become a place where all kinds 712 00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:38.360 of so called interest groups, pressure groups, political pressure groups 713 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:43.440 are formed in order to grab a piece whenever causion 714 00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:49.480 comes into the equation, zero sum situations are created, and 715 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:55.239 some people want to grab a piece before it's taken 716 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:59.880 away from them. So you get ethnic groups, you know, 717 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.800 lobbying for their particular ethnic groups. You get professions lobbying 718 00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.400 to restrict people from coming in from their profession if 719 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:10.599 they want, you know, if they're afraid of the competition. 720 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:12.199 You know, they don't want their wages to go down 721 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.480 because of the competition. Right, So it's very difficult to 722 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.199 bring in doctors to the United States because the American 723 00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:23.000 Medical Association doesn't want to compete with foreign doctors. They'll 724 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:26.039 tell you that the reason is that foreign doctors are 725 00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:29.159 not as good as American doctors, but that's nonsense. The 726 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.079 real reason is they don't want a flood of doctors 727 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.159 coming in competing with them. We have a shortage of 728 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.000 doctors in the United States. One of the reasons healthy 729 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.159 it costs a high is because doctors can charge you 730 00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:42.880 a lot because they're a lot of them supplying demand. 731 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.440 So there are professions and ethnic groups, and then there's 732 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.920 a whole industry around asylum seekers and refugees, a whole 733 00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:00.599 altruistic movement to try to get people of this country 734 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:06.079 on the basis of how oppressed they are. And then 735 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:10.119 they're tech companies who want tech employees. And there's some 736 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:15.639 tech companies who just want relatively simple, straightforward coders, and 737 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.159 they're either not enough of Americans so they don't want 738 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.400 to pay them as much. And then there are other 739 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.159 tech companies that want superstars, that want the geniuses, that 740 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:28.519 want the extraordinary, and those tech companies are fighting each 741 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:32.280 other for peace of this pie. And then they're the nativists. 742 00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:35.039 They don't want anybody come in and they're fighting over this. 743 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.880 And then they woke leftists who just want to flood 744 00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.079 the country because they believe that by flooding the country 745 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.599 with immigrants, they'll destroy whatever's good about America, which they hate. 746 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.039 And basically you've got all these pressure groups pulling and pushing, 747 00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.079 and what you get because of that is the mess, 748 00:52:56.119 --> 00:53:02.559 the disaster, the complexity, the just irrationality, the completely irrational 749 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:13.880 immigration policy that we have today. So it's a complete disaster, 750 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:25.760 it's very very you know, crazy, It's become a just 751 00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:33.079 a pressure group, pressure group, you know, mayhem. So that 752 00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:36.400 I think is why we have the policy that we have. Fear, 753 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:41.800 ignorance of economics, ignorance of crime and terrorism, you know, 754 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.760 not understanding culture and understanding foundations of culture, and if 755 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:48.280 we're wanting to protect it somehow by keeping those people 756 00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.320 who are different, who act differently, behave differently, eat different 757 00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.639 food away from us, and a real sense of entitlement 758 00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.920 that unfortunately has crept into America, and then at the 759 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:03.559 edge is suddenly elements of racism. Now, what are the 760 00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:06.639 consequences of this? What are the consequences of having an 761 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:14.119 irrational immigration policy? Well, I think the first and big 762 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:19.280 one is that we've abandoned a commitment to liberty, we 763 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:23.519 have abandoned the commitment to individual rights. We've created a 764 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:27.800 course of arbitrary system that violates rights left and right, 765 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:33.199 that denies Americans opportunities to hire, sell, rent, interact with fauners, 766 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.079 denies feign as the right to come here and work, 767 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:42.719 and you know, reinvigorate America. We have thus weakened our culture, 768 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:47.719 and we have created an attitude. Our immigration policy creates 769 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:56.400 the attitude of entitlement, which is unbelievably destructive to American culture. 770 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:09.320 We have a dramatically weaker, less dynamic, stagnant economy. It 771 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.559 might be the best economy in the world, and by 772 00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:14.960 some issures it is. It's nohing near the potential that 773 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.719 we have. We have a lot for few entrepreneurs than 774 00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:25.760 we could otherwise have. A productivity is a lot lower, innovation, ingenuity, 775 00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:33.079 progress a lot slower and weaker. More workers, more motivated employees, 776 00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:41.760 more motivated, smart, skilled, or unskilled. But entrepreneurial labor would 777 00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:47.000 enhance American life. I mean, every economic study shows that 778 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:53.559 immigration raises productivity, raises wages. Now, in a particular sector, 779 00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:57.079 wages might go down, but if we're all in economy, 780 00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:04.719 wages go up. Every worker comes to America producers and 781 00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:14.880 then consumes the restrictions and immigration of restrictions in the 782 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:21.039 division of labor, the restrictions and specialization they hamper. Therefore, 783 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.440 our standard of living, more people to trade with at 784 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:28.280 very low cost. The cheapest trading is done with people 785 00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:32.360 around you. The more further away you have to transport goods, 786 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.840 the more expensive they become. One of the reasons why 787 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.639 outsourcing as relatively expensive, and it's only done in extraordinary 788 00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:46.880 cases where the gap is huge. You know, we'll talk 789 00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:57.440 about trade another time. So you know, we're losing out 790 00:56:57.480 --> 00:56:58.920 in a high standard of living, and of course we're 791 00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:05.280 losing out on the geniuses, on the founders of you know, 792 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:09.719 ready forty four percent of all our unicorn companies billion 793 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:15.400 dollar valuation or more immigrants. Imagine if we had more immigration, 794 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.239 Imagine how many more unicorns would have, how much more 795 00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:24.159 great technology we would have, how much more and so 796 00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:26.679 our economy would be a lot stronger. But think about 797 00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:33.559 also the national security implications of that. A strong economy 798 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:40.360 with much more innovation was superior technology, you know, makes 799 00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:44.320 us far stronger militarily than China or Russia or any 800 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:49.880 combination of the above. We would beat them all. Think 801 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.000 also about what we don't get. We don't get a 802 00:57:52.039 --> 00:58:00.800 brain drain. Imagine if Chinese engineers, if Chinese scientists could 803 00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.920 just come to American get a job. There'd be a 804 00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:07.960 massive movement of the smartest people in the world to 805 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.719 the United States. They'd love to live here. There are 806 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:15.119 millions of them. They would love to live here, and 807 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:20.280 typically they are the most competent, the most ambitious, and 808 00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:25.840 often the most entrepreneurial. So we're missing out on the 809 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:32.519 best people, and a lot of them. I guess could 810 00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:34.920 apply for an H one B and then go into 811 00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:38.000 a lottery and they're not gonna hass They're not gonna 812 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:48.159 you know, it's too much of a hassle. So we 813 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:53.960 have a lot weaker economy. The economy benefits. The economic 814 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.440 benefits of immigration are way understated, even by the most 815 00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:04.800 optimistic immigration supporters. Immigration is a huge, unequivocal boon to 816 00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:13.639 the economy. It's not this the economy. Immigrants revitalize our 817 00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:18.239 culture if we take seriously the idea of a melting 818 00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:23.119 pot that we have. The foundational values are American and we 819 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.840 know what they are and we stand up for them. Individualism, 820 00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:33.519 don't tread on me. The government that protects our rights 821 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:41.880 and leaves us alone. Then bring your values, bring your ideas, 822 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.599 bring your culture to us, Bring your food and your 823 00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:52.519 music and whatever. Bring it to us. Why can't we 824 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:55.559 integrate them into our culture? I mean, think about the 825 00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:59.360 geniuses of cultural product that we're missing out on that 826 00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.639 could be here. And it's not just genuses in science 827 01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:07.559 and technology. What about the geniuses of music, in film, directing, 828 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:15.679 in literature and economics, in philosophy, in food, great chefs, 829 01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:21.639 in painting, sculpture, whatever. I mean. Think about the people 830 01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:26.159 who again in cinema changed the American cinema changed American 831 01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:28.760 Think about all the composers who wrote great film music 832 01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:34.280 who are immigrants. Think about great thinkers like Einrhand Ludig 833 01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:42.239 von Mises who are immigrants. Culturally, Have they made America better? Yeah? 834 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:46.239 Does Ironrand made America better? Yes? Did Ludig von Mises 835 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:54.440 make America better? Yes? Did Malena Dietrich, the German actress, 836 01:00:54.440 --> 01:01:00.199 make American better? Yes? Did Einstein make America better? Yes? 837 01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:06.159 Did they make American culture better? Yes? Why wouldn't the 838 01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:09.480 same kind of people today make American culture better again today? 839 01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:15.840 Why are we afraid of immigration rather than embracing immigration 840 01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.360 to make the culture better. So we're missing out on 841 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:25.280 all of that. And then, you know, I'm not a 842 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.639 huge fan of looking at demographics, but demographics matter over 843 01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:34.000 the very long run, and the reality is that without immigration, 844 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:39.559 America is a shrinking country, an aging, shrinking country. One 845 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:43.920 point seven, I think, is that whatever the number is replacedment, 846 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:48.559 it's two point one, right, children per couple. We're at 847 01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:56.000 one point seven and going down. Even Japan, which has 848 01:01:56.039 --> 01:02:00.400 resisted immigration forever, is slowly opening up to immigration because 849 01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:03.400 demographically they're shrinking so fast, they're getting old so fast, 850 01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:07.320 they cannot survive as a culture unless they let people in. 851 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.360 And then, of course the fact that immigration is what 852 01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:22.679 it is. The consequence of that is the pressure group politics, 853 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:28.039 which leads to the polarization. But we have a constant 854 01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:31.360 war between pressure groups who wanting to admit or restrict 855 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:37.239 people based on nationality, race, type of worker, student not student, 856 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:40.880 extended family, asylum seeker not asylum seeking. It just goes 857 01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.440 on and on and on. There's no end to it. And all 858 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:47.599 this leads to a massive polarization, I mean, and the elevation, 859 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:50.440 the elevation, and you can see it on my chat, 860 01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:57.639 the elevation of racist, blatantly racist ideas into the debate, 861 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.199 ideas that if not up for the disastrous immigration policies 862 01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.719 we had would not be tolerated, would not be accepted. 863 01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:14.480 And you can see by some of the super chat 864 01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:18.599 questions that I'm getting how ignorant and unthinking people are 865 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:27.519 when it comes to this issue, really really narrow an 866 01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:36.280 emotional fear, as I said before, fear. And you know, 867 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:40.440 America has lost its way. Even the defenders of immigration 868 01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:44.199 today like Musk and Vivic who tried to defend h 869 01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:49.360 one B's do so on utilitarian basis. On it, there's 870 01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:55.400 no nobody mentions rights, nobody mentions individual rights, nobody mentions individualism. 871 01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.679 There's no conception of rights when it comes to this issue. 872 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:03.679 It's a it's a black hole, ideological black hole for 873 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:07.039 these kind of concepts. And the consequence of that is 874 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:12.679 again a deterioration and erosion in our culture, and erosion 875 01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.159 in what it means to be an American and erosion 876 01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:23.360 in Americanism. And I will plug the book that Jonathan 877 01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:27.760 Honing Edit did on Americanism with the lead essay by 878 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:32.280 Einrand on the Nature of Americanism, which everybody should should read. 879 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:41.440 Everybody should read, and ultimately the state of comment immigration 880 01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:44.960 leads to an ever increasing role for government bureaucrats and 881 01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:50.039 power and manipulation, and all of this leads to the 882 01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:54.840 craziness of what happens in our southern border, which is, 883 01:04:55.440 --> 01:05:02.960 you know, freaking people out. It's really crazy. Thousands of 884 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:04.840 people leave their homes all over the world, tens of 885 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:08.000 hundreds of thousands, all over the world, from China to 886 01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:12.920 Pakistan to Arabia to all over South America. They leave 887 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:19.440 their home, They trek for thousands of miles, much of 888 01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.320 it by foot, through jungles and deserts, to reach a border. 889 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.960 They have no idea what's going to happen, and then 890 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:29.679 they cross that border and create mayhem, and then the 891 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:36.159 government subsidizes their housing and their food and it's just 892 01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:41.360 one big, massive disaster that makes no sense. And indeed, 893 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:49.320 within this mayhem, there's no the issues of security and criminality. 894 01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:53.719 People legitimately lose track of those because they're not tracking 895 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:55.840 who's coming in and who's coming out. They're no objective 896 01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:57.840 standard who to let in, who not to let in, 897 01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:07.400 and it's just one big shit you all right, So 898 01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:09.960 what do we do about this? What do we do 899 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:15.239 about this? What do we do about this within the 900 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:20.480 context of the current political system, within the context of 901 01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:24.400 America as it is today. This is not my ultimate 902 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:32.079 solution for you know, las ife heaven one day. Also, 903 01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:36.000 I would add to whatever we do here, you know 904 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.760 directly in immigration, which I'll talk about, it also has 905 01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.199 to be auxiliary things, or can be auxiliary things that 906 01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:42.880 we do. We'll talk about those as well, in both 907 01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:46.679 immigration and the economy more broadly. So what do we do? 908 01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:52.079 What's the solution when you have to stop by scrapping 909 01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:57.199 the entire immigration system today? And I would include here 910 01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.559 doing a word in the nineteen twenty four, nineteen ninety, 911 01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:04.800 nineteen eighty, whatever, sixty four, nineteen eighties, all of the 912 01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:08.119 laws creation of H one b's H and B should 913 01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:12.760 be gone. There were travesty. You know people argue about 914 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.679 H one bs. Well, one of the great distortions. H 915 01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:19.679 and B creates a great distortion that is people are 916 01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:23.119 stuck in these jobs. They can't change employees, just scrap 917 01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:25.000 the whole thing. Everything needs to go. You need to 918 01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:30.280 start completely fresh, completely with nothing of this legacy, disaster, 919 01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:35.760 this legacy that's been created by basically pressure group politics. 920 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:44.639 And include here America needs to leave whatever treaties it 921 01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:48.800 has regarding asylum. Asylum is not a standard by which 922 01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:53.920 somebody should enter the country. It shouldn't be a standard. 923 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.960 The standard should be whatever the standard is. It should 924 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:01.599 be America's interest, not the suffering of somebody. Something of 925 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:05.679 somebody should not be the qualification. Something politically is somefing 926 01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.360 economically is treated differently. Why why is that somefing is 927 01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:11.000 point important in that suffering? None of that is important. 928 01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:14.880 None of that should be accepted. So we should exit 929 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:17.119 every treaty that requires us to accept people based on 930 01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:20.199 a side. We should scrap the entire emigration system. It's 931 01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:31.640 start over and basically have three categories for visas. The 932 01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:35.760 dominant category, which is a work visa, a tourist visa, 933 01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:38.600 which will be would be very limited. I'll talk about 934 01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:42.239 when it should be applied most countries even today this 935 01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:46.800 citizens enter the United States without a visa right there, 936 01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:50.720 if they're visiting, and and that would stay. And then 937 01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:57.119 you know student visa, a student visa. So let's think 938 01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:01.359 about how you would do this each type of visa. Basically, 939 01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:04.760 I would say that anyone who could show that they 940 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:10.479 can take care of themselves financially through employment or through 941 01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:14.079 the wealth that they have, and who does not pose 942 01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:20.920 an identifiable criminal or national security threat should be welcome 943 01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:25.000 as an immigrant and let's say a five year visa 944 01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:29.039 renewable as long as they maintain the status that is 945 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:34.479 of income or wealth. So I'll say this again, anyone, 946 01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.439 this is the principle. This is a solution. Anyone who 947 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:41.119 can show that they can take care of self through 948 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:45.239 employmental wealth, and who does not pose an identifiable criminal 949 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:48.680 or national security threat should be welcome as an immigrant 950 01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:52.640 on a five year of visa renewable as long as 951 01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:56.479 they maintain that status of income or wealth. So first, 952 01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:02.479 that takes away the holy issue of welfare. They're making 953 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:05.680 money or they have money. And by the way, just 954 01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:09.479 to make sure of this, we can attach to this 955 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:15.159 bill a provision that says these people are not eligible 956 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:19.119 for any form of welfare until they become citizens, which 957 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:21.479 is kind of weird and bizarre, Like one of the 958 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.840 privileges of citizenship is you get to go on the state. 959 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:28.840 But okay, you know, I'd like to get rid of 960 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.680 the welfare state first, but we got a welfare state. 961 01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:37.960 Let's just this is within the context of it. So 962 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.199 they can have a five year visa renewable as long 963 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:44.279 as they maintain status. And this means that anybody who 964 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:46.199 has a certain level of wealth, and we can decide 965 01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:48.479 what that level of wealth is. I don't know, figure 966 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:54.079 it out. Or who has a job offer, a legit 967 01:10:54.199 --> 01:11:00.680 job offer from a United States company that is that 968 01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:05.079 at a minimum is of a call it a living wage, 969 01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:08.479 whatever the hell that is some minimum amount doesn't have 970 01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:11.880 to be a lot, but one that would prevent them 971 01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:17.199 from going allow them to live reasonably well. Who passes 972 01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:22.520 a criminal and national security screen gets the visa. You 973 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:29.319 could imagine employment agencies setting up shop all over the world, 974 01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:37.359 connecting American businesses with potential employees, getting them job offers, 975 01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:43.479 having a terminal that connects them to FBI, helping run 976 01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:50.239 the national security and criminal screen, and basically having the 977 01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:53.199 authority then either to issue a visa or to issue 978 01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:55.680 a paperwork that allows the person to get a visa 979 01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:06.039 and come into the United States. So that is step one. Now, 980 01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:08.279 these reasons would give a person a right to work, 981 01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:14.399 the ability to work. They would not be eligible for 982 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:21.359 citizenship for at least twenty to twenty five years. So 983 01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:25.239 you don't have to worry about this flood of immigrants 984 01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:28.560 coming in tomorrow and before they have a time to 985 01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:33.880 assimilate or any opportunity to assimilate. They're already voting, so 986 01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:36.760 not eligibly for citizen for at least twenty twenty five years. 987 01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:41.520 And if you really worried about this, if you're really 988 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:45.920 concerned about citizenship, then I have no real problem with 989 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:50.159 saying they never become citizens. Their kids are citizens, the 990 01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:53.159 kids can become citizens, but they never become citizens. If 991 01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:57.039 you make it twenty twenty five years, you know they've 992 01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:00.239 spent a significant portion of their life in America. If 993 01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:04.119 our culture is strong, if we know what we're about, 994 01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:10.439 then they will have assimilated by then. And remember, they 995 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.840 have to work. Their visa will not be renewed unless 996 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:18.039 they're working, unless they're producing income or they've accumulated enough wealth. 997 01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:22.960 In either case, they've become productive members within American society. 998 01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:27.600 What better way to assimilate into America than to work 999 01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:31.640 in America than to be part of an economic enterprise 1000 01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:39.760 in America. I would also have a meaningful citizenship test. 1001 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:46.279 The citizenship test today is stupid. It basically asks a 1002 01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:54.960 series of multiple choice questions, all from a very delimited 1003 01:13:55.039 --> 01:13:57.920 number of questions. You just have to pick up a 1004 01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:01.239 little book memorize the content of the book and you're in. 1005 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.039 It needs to be a meaningful citizenship test, and not 1006 01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:08.000 an ideological test. We'll get to ideology in a minute. 1007 01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:13.800 Not an ideological test, but a test that basically figures 1008 01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:17.520 out whether you understand the American system of government, you 1009 01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:22.399 understand the principles on which America is based. Maybe Americans 1010 01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:24.600 should take this citizenship test as well before they are 1011 01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:28.960 allowed to vote. We'll leave that for another show. But 1012 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:32.960 they have to be able to articulately say something about 1013 01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:36.520 the founding of America, something about the separation of powers 1014 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:40.239 and the checks and balances, something about individual rights and 1015 01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:41.960 the meaning of the right to life, liberty in the 1016 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:47.479 pursuit of happiness, something about these things. So meaningful citizenship test. 1017 01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.560 And then, as we said, no eligibility for any form 1018 01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:03.239 of welfare, you know, at the federal level, at least, 1019 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:07.079 I don't know if you can constitutionally ban states and 1020 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:12.720 providing welfare to them. But again, they would will quite 1021 01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:16.359 have a real job, or by the way, you know, 1022 01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:22.119 income income could be when they renew the visa, could 1023 01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:25.319 be from their own venture, from an entrepreneurial adventure. That is, 1024 01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:28.760 this visa would not restrict them from staying with the 1025 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:32.600 particular employer. You don't care who the employer is. You 1026 01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:34.600 don't care what the source of income is. That is, 1027 01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.119 if they started their own business and now getting income, 1028 01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:40.600 that's fine. If they've started a YouTube channel and they're 1029 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:45.279 getting income, that's fine. As long as they are producing 1030 01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:49.239 income that they're living off of that income that are 1031 01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:53.560 not living off of the state anyway, their visa should 1032 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:57.159 be renewed. So, for example, as standard could be, if 1033 01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:00.800 you're getting welfare from the state, from local or state government, 1034 01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:05.159 your visa will not be renewed. Sole stay in a 1035 01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:10.159 local government might be allowed to give them welfare because 1036 01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.520 the federal government can't control that. That would be a 1037 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:22.640 black mark on the renewability of their visa. Now let's 1038 01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:26.760 talk about the screening. So be a number criteria for screening. 1039 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:34.359 One is criminality based on US law. Have you have 1040 01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:41.039 you participated in a crime, for example, gang membership. You 1041 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:45.359 know it's true that you might have been prosecuted for 1042 01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:48.279 crime and being in jail in another country. So in 1043 01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:53.720 that sense, you've already you know, uh, you know, serve 1044 01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.079 your time if you will. It doesn't matter for the 1045 01:16:56.079 --> 01:17:03.399 purposes of this in order to again be very clear. Yeah, 1046 01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:07.000 you would exclude people with criminal backgrounds, you would exclude 1047 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:10.439 gang membership. I mean, there'd be some gray areas where, 1048 01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:14.920 particularly in oppressive regimes, where it's not clear if somebody 1049 01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:17.720 what the reason he was prosecuted for what. But that's 1050 01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:19.720 what a screening is for. You would screen for all 1051 01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:22.359 these things, and in some cases, great cases, you would 1052 01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:30.600 have to dig a little deeper. Right, Terrorism, Are you 1053 01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:32.720 a member of a terrorist organization? Have you ever been 1054 01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:35.239 a member of a terrorist organization? If you're no longer 1055 01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:38.079 a member of a terrorist organization, how can you prove 1056 01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:45.159 that you and have now repudiated that organization? So? Are 1057 01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:49.000 you a physical threat? And the United States has pretty 1058 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:52.640 good databases? Are your friends terrorists? Are your neighbors terroists? 1059 01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:55.640 Are you not neighbors? Maybe? Are your family members terrorists? 1060 01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:59.880 And really dig particularly if you're coming let's say film 1061 01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:04.359 was the country. Is there a real risk that you 1062 01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:06.960 a spy? And again I don't know what the criteria 1063 01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.880 would be here exactly, but are you a national security threat? 1064 01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:13.199 If you being affiliated in one way another with the 1065 01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:18.640 Chinese Communist Party you or with Chinese securities? Have you 1066 01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:22.119 been a member of a hacking group that tacked American computers. 1067 01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:26.920 I mean all of those kind of things. And then 1068 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:34.800 I would add to that, do you advocate full Have 1069 01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:41.560 you advocated full an ideology that is being identified as 1070 01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.600 an explicit with an explicit enemy of the United States 1071 01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:48.239 that as you can think of during World War Two? 1072 01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:53.600 Have you advocated for Nazism or Japanese imperialism? And today 1073 01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:57.680 are you an Islamist? Are you affiliated in any way 1074 01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:06.840 with Islamism? Do you, you know, express outwardly then mefestations 1075 01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:10.520 of Islamism? For example, do you acquire your wife to 1076 01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:17.039 go completely covered? Given Islamism is the ideology of our 1077 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:21.520 enemy today, that would disqualify you from entering the United States. 1078 01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:25.399 Now we'd have to define it as the enemy. That 1079 01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:30.479 would require a certain fun policy changes, but not a 1080 01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:35.079 band on Islam. But a band on Islam is them absolutely, 1081 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:44.119 And you know you would have to accept the the 1082 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:47.680 you know, as part of your suddenly as a citizen, 1083 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:50.079 but even as an immigrant, you would have to accept 1084 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:53.520 the rule of law in America, the Constitution and the 1085 01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:55.439 rule of law of America. You have to swear to that, 1086 01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:57.479 do some kind of legal statement that you accept that 1087 01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:06.399 with everything that that implies. And if that means ten 1088 01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:13.760 million people come in one million, five million, three hundred thousand, 1089 01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.239 I don't know what the right number is. There's no 1090 01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:19.279 right number. Whatever the number is, it is and it's 1091 01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:19.640 based on. 1092 01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:21.800 The fact that they have a job offer, they have 1093 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:33.399 a job waiting for them. 1094 01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:37.399 And then beyond that, I'd say only direct family spouse, 1095 01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:43.680 non adult children are automatically approved for a visa. Now, 1096 01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:46.720 once you become a citizen, it's possible that you know, 1097 01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:51.840 you allow citizenship to children, and maybe there's a path 1098 01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:54.279 for the children and non adult children to become citizens 1099 01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:57.439 independent of the parents. If they get a job, they 1100 01:20:57.479 --> 01:20:59.720 now get their own visas. In a sense, they start 1101 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:03.760 to two twenty five year'clock. You have to work out 1102 01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:08.960 all the details in terms of family, but family reunification 1103 01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:12.600 bringing your relatives from all over the world here, particularly 1104 01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:16.439 your elderly parents or whatever, cannot be a priority and 1105 01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:21.119 should not be a priority for a system like this. Now, 1106 01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:27.039 notice no, So okay, So that's the bulk of it. 1107 01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:31.399 That's most of visas that are relevant for immigrants. Right, 1108 01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:36.520 citizenship is something that's pushed into the future. It's something 1109 01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:39.359 that's a little harder to get. It's something that you 1110 01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:48.600 have to achieve. Now, what about tourists, Well, I would 1111 01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:54.920 require only for citizens. Require tourists visa only from citizens 1112 01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:59.960 of countries where they might be a national security threat, 1113 01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:03.000 so that you can screen them. By the way, I 1114 01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:06.479 didn't mention health checks. Yeah, I mean with the criminal 1115 01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.600 and terrorist stuff, you can also do a health check, 1116 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:13.279 make sure they don't have tuberculosis, other kinds of infectious diseases. 1117 01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:15.479 I think the United States today has a list of 1118 01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.119 all the infectious diseases. You cannot enter the United States 1119 01:22:18.159 --> 01:22:23.319 with ebola, I don't know whatever. So real infectious diseases 1120 01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:27.079 that are deadly, or that are or they're easily transmittable 1121 01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:34.800 and hard to cure should be excluded, right, You should 1122 01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:36.800 be able to exclude people from that, and then if 1123 01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:38.760 they have that, just like they did in the Ellis Island, 1124 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:44.800 a tour should be allowed in again unless there's some risk, 1125 01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:49.800 either because there's an epidemic in a country, a pandemic overseas, 1126 01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:52.039 and then you want to screen them for health issues, 1127 01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:54.880 or they come from a country that might pose a 1128 01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.640 potential national security risk, and then you want to be 1129 01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:04.159 able to do work criminal or a national security screen 1130 01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:06.560 on them. Better than that, tour should be allowed in 1131 01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.520 pretty freely. And then finally, student visas. I mean, one 1132 01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:12.439 of the great crimes in student visas today is that 1133 01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:14.319 we give out student visas and then we don't allow 1134 01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:18.239 them to work while they're students, and we don't allow 1135 01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:20.560 the spouses to work. This is my case. When I 1136 01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:22.680 came here on an F one visa, my wife had 1137 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:25.199 an F two visa. She was not allowed to work, 1138 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.920 so we both had to survive somehow. I wasn't allowed 1139 01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.800 to work. I had to work on campus. So I 1140 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:37.039 worked on campus, and I worked illegally, right. And you know, 1141 01:23:37.159 --> 01:23:40.800 let's say you get on consulting job here, consulting job there, 1142 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:46.359 you do what you can, right. So student visas should 1143 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:51.119 require screening the same as work visas. They should be 1144 01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:56.159 an adjusted for income and wealth so that the student 1145 01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:59.119 can support themselves well study. And they should be zero 1146 01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:02.760 restrictions on work of students or spouses in the United States, 1147 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:08.560 well in the United States, and once a student finishes 1148 01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:10.199 a study should be able to apply for a work 1149 01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:14.359 visa and so on. Now, what does that mean for 1150 01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:18.000 our border, particularly our southern border where we have all 1151 01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:21.920 these problems. Well, there would be a few transit points 1152 01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:25.359 where people can come in with their visas that they've 1153 01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:28.720 received from the employment agency or from whatever mechanism we 1154 01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:34.960 create to facilitate these visas, and where the checked are 1155 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:40.640 allowed in. Now, anyone who tries to enter in a 1156 01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:46.319 different location can be therefore rationally assumed to be a 1157 01:24:46.359 --> 01:24:50.399 criminal or terrorist, because otherwise why would you do it. 1158 01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:53.600 Or somebody who wants to come in to benefit from welfare, 1159 01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:57.119 though not clear how they would ever get it, And 1160 01:24:57.199 --> 01:24:59.520 I think in those cases it would be legitimate to 1161 01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:06.239 have instant deportation and exclusion from ever immigrating legally so 1162 01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:09.800 you can ever come here again, and for ape defenders 1163 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:16.680 jail time. I mean, this would basically end the flow, 1164 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:21.720 massive flow of illegal immigration over the southern border. People 1165 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:29.079 would just come here legally, but it would be large numbers. Now, 1166 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:31.600 I just want to say a few words about some 1167 01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:35.319 other things that I think need to be done in 1168 01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:41.000 association with this. We need to, generally, pretty much for everything, 1169 01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:45.079 liberate our economy as much as we can. We need 1170 01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:49.760 to get rid of things like minimum wages and required benefits, 1171 01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:52.720 and make it easy to employ people and make it 1172 01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:56.880 easy to fire people and hire people, whether local Americans 1173 01:25:56.920 --> 01:26:02.000 are foreigners. We need to make employment legal, hiding and 1174 01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:07.840 firing easy. We need to make starting a business easy, 1175 01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:13.000 super easy. So we need to make America's economy freer 1176 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:19.560 and ultimately over time, it would be great if we 1177 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:24.199 started reducing and actually eliminating the welfare state suddenly at 1178 01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:28.479 the federal level. Ultimately love to see it at the 1179 01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:32.079 state level as well, but at the federal level eliminating 1180 01:26:32.079 --> 01:26:35.920 the welfare state. And then in addition to this, we 1181 01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:39.520 have to solve the problem of education. And here I 1182 01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:45.680 wanted one aspect of education that affects both primary you know, 1183 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:51.760 high school and college education, and also generally the public debate, 1184 01:26:52.720 --> 01:27:00.520 an intellectual public debate. We need to stop endorsing multiculturalism. 1185 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.640 We need to reject the idea that our cultures are equal. 1186 01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:07.199 We need to be very clear with people coming to 1187 01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:12.640 America that they are coming here with expectation that they 1188 01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:16.760 will adopt our culture, that our culture is better than theirs, 1189 01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:20.920 that our culture the reason they want to come here 1190 01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:25.399 is because it's good. The reason they're left theirs is 1191 01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:29.399 because it's not good. We need to be very explicit 1192 01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:34.960 about this. We cannot teach our children at whatever age 1193 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.399 they are, that we are colonizers and we are evil, 1194 01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:39.079 and we are bad, and we are horbable, and we 1195 01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:42.439 have an awful culture and the cultures of these all 1196 01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:44.520 these other countries is just the same as ours and 1197 01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:48.800 just as good as ours. That's just not true. And 1198 01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:53.760 we need to understand why that is individual rights and 1199 01:27:53.800 --> 01:28:00.439 promote it. And through doing that, by emphasizing our strengths, 1200 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:06.800 by emphasizing a virtues, the value that America represents, we 1201 01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:14.000 will accelerate a similation. We will say to the immigrants, 1202 01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:18.560 you've come here, we expect you to follow American law, 1203 01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:22.399 We expect you to integrate into our culture. We expect you. 1204 01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:26.479 I mean, I think the whole idea of, you know, 1205 01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:30.039 letting immigrants use their native language is absurd. We need 1206 01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:33.199 to integrate them linguistically. They needs to be one official 1207 01:28:33.239 --> 01:28:37.239 language in the United States, it's English. Big part of 1208 01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:40.560 assimilation is language, and that needs to be a demand, 1209 01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:44.760 an expectation. And by the way, if they come here 1210 01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:52.920 to work, they will have to speak English. Now, what 1211 01:28:52.960 --> 01:29:00.279 would be the outcome of this new immigration policy. Well, 1212 01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:04.079 first of all, we're talking about a lot of additional 1213 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:08.680 people coming into this country a new wave of immigration. 1214 01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:13.880 Immigration today is relatively high, but as a percentage of 1215 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:17.479 the existing population, still pretty low as compared to what 1216 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:20.600 it was in the late nineteenth century. And think about 1217 01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:27.199 the late nineteenth sentty. What a dynamic, invigorating American culture 1218 01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:38.840 that was. So the solution will revitalize America. It will 1219 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:43.760 express America's confidence in itself and in its values, and 1220 01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:50.399 we focus our energy on individualism, on individual rights, on 1221 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:54.399 the rate of individuals to pursue their happiness using their 1222 01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:59.159 own mind, in pursuit of their own values, free from coersion, 1223 01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:06.279 free from the pressure groups. It will clarify who is 1224 01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:16.119 an American. Ultimately, America is an idea, and we expect 1225 01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:21.159 these ideas to manifest in virtues, in a character of 1226 01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:26.840 who Americans are. And Americans are born every day all 1227 01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:29.840 over the world. People with the kind of character, with 1228 01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.960 the kind of virtues, the kind of values that are 1229 01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:37.079 cherished in America are born everywhere, and we should be 1230 01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:45.279 inviting them to come here and re energize and populate America. 1231 01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:51.359 Filler up. We've got lots of anty empty land. A 1232 01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:57.279 culture will be revitalized. Great artists and thinkers and producers 1233 01:30:57.319 --> 01:31:03.319 and creators and chefs and dancers and all kinds of 1234 01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:07.680 people will come here who will re energize American culture. 1235 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:13.560 They won't come here to be funded by the States. 1236 01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:17.840 They won't come here to get handouts. They won't come 1237 01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:21.560 here because of their skin color, or because they're persecuted, 1238 01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:26.800 or because they're poor miserable. They're coming here because they 1239 01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:32.359 want to make something of themselves. They'll come here because 1240 01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:36.640 they want to live free and because they want to 1241 01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:41.640 make a living. Think of all the enormous benefits we 1242 01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:46.079 would get from having more people like that. There are millions, 1243 01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:49.039 hundreds of millions probably in the world of the eight 1244 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:58.159 billion people who qualify as spiritually American. And if they 1245 01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:04.079 come here, it becomes a bigger, more vibrant, more dynamic, 1246 01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:10.079 more exciting, more ambitious place. And that's exciting. I know 1247 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:16.199 for some people this is what causes them fear. But 1248 01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:21.600 if you yourself are American in the sense of ambitious, 1249 01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:31.119 individualistic thinker, then you relish such a culture. We drain 1250 01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:34.439 the brains of our enemies, We bring the most productive 1251 01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.159 people in the world here. We make the rest of 1252 01:32:37.199 --> 01:32:40.880 the world from a perspective of military threat to the 1253 01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:46.039 United States e relevant. We would be so far ahead 1254 01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:50.000 of everybody else in terms of the geniuses here, in 1255 01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:54.239 terms of innovation and technology and science, and in terms 1256 01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:57.600 of our military that nobody would come close. Nobody would 1257 01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:02.159 ever threaten the United States. Under those circum stances, we'd 1258 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:07.600 be overwhelmingly the most powerful state in the world. And 1259 01:33:07.680 --> 01:33:13.319 that's because to large extent, opening up immigration, increasing immigration 1260 01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:19.720 the way I've explained, would create a dynamic, entrepreneurial economy. 1261 01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:24.319 We'd see massive economic growth, huge amounts of innovation and 1262 01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:29.199 productivity increases, a more refined and better division of labor, 1263 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:35.319 which would translate into massively higher standard of living. Trade, 1264 01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:38.720 more trade, raise the standard of living. The more we trade, 1265 01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:41.439 the more people we have to trade with, the more 1266 01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:50.479 people we have who can produce, the richer we are. 1267 01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:58.479 And we'd have a lot more geniuses. We'd indeed become 1268 01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:02.680 the magnet of geniuses to come to this country from 1269 01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:11.079 all over the world. What an exciting place to be. 1270 01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:19.079 And you know, the dull, stagnanty parts of America would 1271 01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:24.279 either shape up, would either become ambitious, become dynamic, or 1272 01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:29.359 they die. But that's the way it should be. You 1273 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:31.680 get what you deserve. You get what you pay for, 1274 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:36.960 you get what you work for. We indeed have a smaller, 1275 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:41.880 less powerful, less intrusive government. I mean, just think about 1276 01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:47.640 the size today of you know, the border security and 1277 01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:55.520 a ice and all the different agencies responsible for immigration 1278 01:34:55.680 --> 01:35:02.119 and reviewing and bureaucrats, and all of that is gone. 1279 01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:09.640 Much less less rights being violated, simple process. Everybody can 1280 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:15.840 understand it. Laws generally should be understandable. We would attract 1281 01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:22.960 the best people in the world, no handouts, no giveaways, 1282 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:27.760 and we would take off the table the most contentious 1283 01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:35.279 issue that we have today in our politics. Less polarization, 1284 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:39.520 less emotional craziness. I mean, the racist will still be racist, 1285 01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:43.720 but they would be marginalized, and maybe some of them 1286 01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:47.319 will change their minds once America becomes as dynamic as 1287 01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:51.880 I know it will, and finally we will have a 1288 01:35:52.000 --> 01:36:00.000 quieter about almost no illegal immigrants, just everything. The whole 1289 01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:05.319 temperature of everything about immigration would come down. We get 1290 01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:08.239 all the benefits of having all these amazing people come 1291 01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:12.399 to this country, and this only upside. I don't see 1292 01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:19.199 any downsides to it. None, zero nunda. If you understand, 1293 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:25.760 the economics is not a zero sum, it's additive. Every 1294 01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:30.319 productive individual adds to my life, makes my life smidgeon better. 1295 01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:34.640 Millions of productive individuals make my life a lot better. 1296 01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:39.239 Billions make even more better. Not only can I benefit 1297 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:42.640 from free trade with gazillions of people in all countries 1298 01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:46.199 all over the world because of free trade, this having 1299 01:36:46.199 --> 01:36:49.680 them come here, not all of them, but many millions 1300 01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:54.720 of them is a huge benefit to me because trade 1301 01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:58.000 with people from far away is more expensive. Some of 1302 01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:02.279 those regimes over there horrific and I don't want to 1303 01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:06.680 support them. And people who come to America become more 1304 01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:13.520 productive because of technology, because of capital, because of innovation. 1305 01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:16.840 As soon as they cross the border, doing the same 1306 01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:19.199 job they did in their own country, they are more 1307 01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:24.960 productive in America than they were there. We're better organizations, 1308 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:31.680 better technology, better infrastructure, and more motivation. That's why they 1309 01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:36.000 make more money here. So everybody becomes more productive, which 1310 01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:49.760 makes me richer, makes me richer. So a lot of 1311 01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:54.840 the problems in the United States has economic problems. So security, 1312 01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:59.800 medicare a lot of these issues. If you can create 1313 01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:03.720 the of economic growth that would be generated from a 1314 01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:07.479 much more open immigration system, you would benefit in normously. 1315 01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:11.880 Now let me be clear, one hundred percent rights respecting 1316 01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:18.079 government does not issue visus one hundred percent rights respecting 1317 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:23.159 government maybe screens for infectious diseases, terrorism and criminality, and 1318 01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:27.319 that's it doesn't require you to have a job, doesn't 1319 01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:34.840 require you to to to do X y Z. It 1320 01:38:35.039 --> 01:38:41.239 just has open voters. And that's the idea we strifle. 1321 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:46.119 But this is a big, big, big step in that direction, 1322 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:49.079 given where we are today. So it's a step in 1323 01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:56.199 the direction of open voters, let them all in. But 1324 01:38:56.319 --> 01:39:00.399 it's not an ideal because you know, nothing in government 1325 01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:03.079 today or in our government in the next few decades 1326 01:39:03.159 --> 01:39:06.439 is going to be ideal. If we can move elements 1327 01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:10.479 parts of the government towards greater freedom, we'll benefit from it, 1328 01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:21.399 all benefit from it, all right. So I'm sure you 1329 01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:24.680 have a lot of questions. There are suddenly issues that 1330 01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:27.720 I have not covered here. We can talk about them 1331 01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:30.199 if you ask about them, if you if you come 1332 01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:33.479 up with them, that's that sounds good. Feel for you 1333 01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:35.840 to use the super Chat to ask those kind of questions. 1334 01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:41.399 We are in the super Chat. Let's see we are. 1335 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:43.760 You know, we've covered the first hour. We did that 1336 01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:46.840 pretty quickly, but we're short on the second hour and 1337 01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:49.359 certainly short on the third hour, and it's likely we're 1338 01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:51.720 going to go into the third hour given how many 1339 01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:54.359 questions we have. 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We're going to 1360 01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:18.600 try to raise fifteen thousand dollars. That's a lot of money, 1361 01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:22.239 but I'm hopeful. I think we've made our targets in 1362 01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:24.640 past years, so I'm hoping we'll make our target this year. 1363 01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:27.399 So please join us for that, even if you drop 1364 01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:30.600 in just for a little bit. We'll be gone for 1365 01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:35.880 four hours probably to make to make the goal. Lots 1366 01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:38.680 of questions usually in those lots of a lot of fun. 1367 01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:43.000 It's it's an engaging show. It's a fun show, So 1368 01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:46.760 please join us and do that. We've already raised towards 1369 01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:50.319 that goal twenty one hundred dollars through PayPal. You can 1370 01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:58.199 also make a contributions to PayPal, and so we're going 1371 01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:02.880 to We're going to make that number. Michael Zoo just 1372 01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:05.520 did a sticker for six dollars, but it's his first 1373 01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:10.119 super Chat contribution ever. Thank you Michael, Michelle, thank you 1374 01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:13.960 really appreciate it. Stinger Bell did a sticker. Thank you Stringer. 1375 01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:17.840 Let's see who else do we have stickers? We got 1376 01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:20.720 a bunch of stickers. Yes, Gail, there was a sticker 1377 01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:27.920 from Gail and we got We've got a room. Thank 1378 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:34.880 your room, Stephen, Thank you, Steven thumb. We've got no 1379 01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:38.760 those are questions, questions, questions, questions, questions. Okay, that's it, 1380 01:42:38.840 --> 01:42:47.119 stickers wife. So we're still eighty three dollars short of 1381 01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:48.560 of where we need to be for the second hour. 1382 01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:52.800 Maybe less, we just got yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, 1383 01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:55.760 probably twenty dollars less. We just got another question. All right, 1384 01:42:56.039 --> 01:43:00.399 let's see where we are. We'll start with a fifty 1385 01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:05.119 dollars questions, but only if there were related to immigration. Yes, 1386 01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:13.279 all right, but this is good. Let's let me move this. Yes, 1387 01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:16.359 I can see the questions, but perfix and don't have 1388 01:43:16.439 --> 01:43:21.800 to look away from the screen. Okay, Michael says, I 1389 01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:26.720 don't see any significant movements for individualism, immigration, maybe a 1390 01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:31.119 little deregulatory forces when it comes to energy corporations. For 1391 01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:34.000 the most part, we're dealing with a low self esteem, 1392 01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:38.479 angry and ignorant population. You know, I think that's absolutely right. 1393 01:43:39.079 --> 01:43:47.359 Notice that everything that I said basically assumes that you 1394 01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:49.840 know the country is ready for this and is willing 1395 01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:53.239 to embrace this. I don't believe the country is yet 1396 01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:57.159 ready to embrace my solution for immigration. I wish it was. 1397 01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:03.039 I certainly hope that by doing the show, we can 1398 01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:07.159 bring these ideas to a greater number of people, maybe 1399 01:44:07.159 --> 01:44:10.119 even get them in front of some of the people 1400 01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:13.439 who generally don't like the comment immigration system, would like 1401 01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:15.520 to see it improved, and don't don't know how to 1402 01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:19.479 approach the issue, maybe some of them in the Republican Party. 1403 01:44:20.079 --> 01:44:22.760 So I'm hopeful that one of the things, one of 1404 01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:27.640 the uses Alex will make of these shows is to 1405 01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:31.359 try to take the content here and put it in 1406 01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:36.520 front of influential people who might be able to stitch 1407 01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:39.960 part of this, parts of this into a new policy 1408 01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:44.800 and you and new rhetoric. I mean, we got to 1409 01:44:44.840 --> 01:44:46.800 talk about this, We got to try We got to 1410 01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:50.960 present alternatives that are practical, that are that are doable, 1411 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:56.119 and and and that's the goal of this series. And 1412 01:44:56.159 --> 01:44:59.800 I'll do the same thing with healthcare on Saturday. Saturday 1413 01:44:59.800 --> 01:45:01.680 will doing a similar show on how to fix the 1414 01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:04.399 healthcare system. We'll do the same thing. We'll analyze the 1415 01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:08.439 healthcare system in terms of how to fix it. And 1416 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:11.560 then I'll also do a show regarding healthcare, how do 1417 01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:15.119 we get to the situation we're in today that won't 1418 01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:16.680 be on Saturday and Saturday. It will just be the 1419 01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:19.640 fixes some future show will do how we got here. 1420 01:45:20.439 --> 01:45:23.560 So I agree with you, Michael, that it's still a 1421 01:45:23.720 --> 01:45:26.760 long way off before America is ready for this. But 1422 01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:28.520 that's why we need to talk, talk, talk about it. 1423 01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:31.000 We need a frame, and in terms of individualism we 1424 01:45:31.039 --> 01:45:33.319 need to frame, and in terms of rights, we need 1425 01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:35.359 a frame. In terms of liberty, we need a frame, 1426 01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:39.640 in terms of prosperity and success and dynamism and excitement 1427 01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:43.800 and ambition and Americanism and the American sense of life 1428 01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:47.520 and an American character. And it's the only way we 1429 01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:52.000 can win is by taking these issues and framing them 1430 01:45:52.039 --> 01:45:55.319 based on our values, but in a way that's understandable 1431 01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:59.800 to people, whether they accept or not. Given this debate 1432 01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:06.319 that we just saw between Elon and megab alone was 1433 01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:10.359 good and then capitulated, and most of the issues to 1434 01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:16.239 Mega and Mago was awful, and Mego is hollible driven 1435 01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:24.439 by anger, ignorance and evil, anger, ignorance and racism. We've 1436 01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:27.119 got to have a more benevolent alternative that we can 1437 01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:33.439 present the world, James, not just with anti immigration hate, 1438 01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:36.720 but everything is hate. You can watch a YouTube video 1439 01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:39.119 of a guy falling off a ladder, and one hundred 1440 01:46:39.159 --> 01:46:40.920 percent of the comments of people are making fun of 1441 01:46:40.920 --> 01:46:44.079 the guy, wishing he died or was How can we 1442 01:46:44.119 --> 01:46:51.279 live in such a world. Well, you know, I bet 1443 01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:54.800 you that most people who saw that video didn't comment 1444 01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:57.960 on it. They say, oh, shitty fell at the ladder, 1445 01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:00.560 and they move on. They feel sorry for the guy, 1446 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:04.840 and they move on. So all media today, particularly social media, 1447 01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:07.560 particularly things like YouTube and Facebook and Twitter and all 1448 01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:13.680 these other geared towards geared towards the negative, the geared 1449 01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:20.720 towards encouraging and baiting and reinforcing anger and stupidity and 1450 01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:27.079 malevolence and envy. But you can't, you know, if I 1451 01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:29.920 look at my comments under my videos, if I thought 1452 01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:34.199 everybody held the views that expressed in those comments, I'd 1453 01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:37.520 be super depressed and I'd never do another show. But 1454 01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:41.399 they're not representative. They're the people who are trolling. Who 1455 01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:45.319 are you know, the nasty comments at least you know, 1456 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:47.600 And the same thing with the guy falling off the latter, 1457 01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:50.119 I mean, who's gonna say oh poor I mean the 1458 01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:53.760 person who actually think poor guy that's really sad is 1459 01:47:53.840 --> 01:47:55.640 not going to stick around and make a comment. This 1460 01:47:55.760 --> 01:48:01.079 is going to move on. So beware of the algorithm, 1461 01:48:01.359 --> 01:48:06.800 beware of the tricks of the medium to give you 1462 01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:09.479 a sense. And all our medium is structured this way 1463 01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:12.199 of how bad things are, how awful things are, to 1464 01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:15.680 reinforce the negatives. And it's definitely we live in a 1465 01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:18.600 world where everything is about reinforcing the negatives, and the news, 1466 01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:23.720 to social media, to pretty much everything else. And most 1467 01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:26.359 people in America, if a guy falls off the ladder, 1468 01:48:26.439 --> 01:48:33.600 they rush over to try to help him out. But 1469 01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:37.119 that's not what YouTube brings out of people, sadly. And 1470 01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:42.159 of course people also hide behind anonymity and are jokes 1471 01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:45.640 when they're anonymous. They might not be jokes in person, 1472 01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:51.640 but they're anonymous, they are super jokes. Again, not the 1473 01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:54.520 standard for life, not the way people actually behave in life, 1474 01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.119 all right, Jeremy, another fifty dollars, thank you, guys. An 1475 01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:04.119 issue of finding high tech workers, there has been an 1476 01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:08.760 influx of woke employees and catering to them, as that 1477 01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:12.479 is what comes out of colleges where nearly all of 1478 01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:15.880 new engineers come from, leading to a pushing out of 1479 01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:21.079 males and all those considered white. Yeah, I mean I 1480 01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:25.600 think that's right, and that's definitely a problem, and that's 1481 01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:29.359 hugely frustrating and wrong and evil and bad and so on. 1482 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:34.199 And there are solutions for that, and I think the 1483 01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:39.640 solutions are coming into focus these days. Some of the 1484 01:49:39.680 --> 01:49:47.720 solutions are starting companies for the rejects, starting companies that 1485 01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:52.960 only employ based on skill, and those companies ultimately well 1486 01:49:53.039 --> 01:49:58.680 compete the world companies. So I think a lot of 1487 01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:06.479 the frustration with high tech engineers is the frustration of 1488 01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:10.000 engineers is the fact that there are other things playing 1489 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.880 into this that have nothing to do with immigrants, that 1490 01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:22.239 are distorting the you know, the employment scene. But one 1491 01:50:22.239 --> 01:50:25.800 of the solutions that there will be competitors that abandon 1492 01:50:26.079 --> 01:50:29.279 this woke stuff. Work. Employees are not going to be 1493 01:50:29.319 --> 01:50:33.239 as good, so companies will suffer from employing them, competitors 1494 01:50:33.680 --> 01:50:37.880 will'll compete with them, and then the better companies will 1495 01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:40.159 start shifting. I mean, we saw that, we've seen that 1496 01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:46.079 already with companies abanding THEI with companies abanding the idea 1497 01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:50.840 politics at work, and I think slowly shifting away from 1498 01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:53.600 woke and I think that is happening and I think 1499 01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:57.000 will accelerate over the next few years. I think that, 1500 01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:01.800 particularly in tech, there's going to be a dynamic move 1501 01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:06.319 away from woke hiring. And yes, these engineers come in 1502 01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:09.399 and they're not that qualified, but they're not going to 1503 01:51:09.399 --> 01:51:15.279 be the ones dictating employment practices into the future. And 1504 01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:18.079 you can see, you know, the rebellion against woke has 1505 01:51:18.119 --> 01:51:19.840 been widespread. You could see that in the way young 1506 01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:25.199 people voted, you know, a surprising number of them voting 1507 01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:29.720 for Trump for no other reason than than not accepting 1508 01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:34.760 of the Wok stuff. So I think over time, males 1509 01:51:34.800 --> 01:51:39.720 and white males are going to find I hope, more 1510 01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:45.359 job opportunities a in companies that reject well completely, any 1511 01:51:45.359 --> 01:51:47.720 companies that used to embrace woke and are starting to 1512 01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:56.479 reject it over time. It's just a competitive disadvantage. But unfortunately, 1513 01:51:56.920 --> 01:52:00.840 I think it's being used as an excuse to lamb immigrants. 1514 01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:09.640 Mary Lane says, I know many immigrants Viya toastmasters, especially 1515 01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:13.439 Indians and Chinese Indians in particular, are eager to embrace 1516 01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:17.359 US culture. This is anecdotal, but these are wonderful, talented, 1517 01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:19.680 creative people who I'm fortunate to know. We need more 1518 01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:22.960 of them. Yeah, I mean, Indians have a huge advantage 1519 01:52:23.279 --> 01:52:25.720 the biggest advantage is they speak English. They spoke English 1520 01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:29.720 in India, they speak English in school. Those are particularly 1521 01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:33.560 of a particular cast up. Remember that really really poor 1522 01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:36.800 Indians won't come to America. They can't afford the air 1523 01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:41.319 fe and the jobs they get here will not pay 1524 01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:47.159 them enough to justify coming to America. So most immigrants 1525 01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:52.800 are going to be immigrants that come to America for 1526 01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:58.119 better paying jobs. Some will be low skill because there 1527 01:52:58.119 --> 01:53:01.039 opportunities among low skill, but they will be the one 1528 01:53:01.039 --> 01:53:08.920 to travel the shortest distances the cheapest cost. But Indians 1529 01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:15.680 have an in in a English based education system. They 1530 01:53:15.720 --> 01:53:20.000 speak English. There are many engineering schools, many of them excellent. 1531 01:53:21.239 --> 01:53:24.760 They come here and they're they're very ambitious. They're the 1532 01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:30.760 most successful financially immigrant group of all the immigrant groups. Uh. 1533 01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:36.399 The average Indian is well into the six figures. And 1534 01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:40.840 they want to embrace US culture. I think it's because 1535 01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:46.680 of their familiarity with English culture. Uh, it's less feign 1536 01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:50.239 unless for the Chinese, where the language is a big 1537 01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:54.199 deal and the culture is very very different and it 1538 01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:57.560 takes them a lot longer to figure it out and assimily, 1539 01:53:58.479 --> 01:54:02.800 but they do. They look at the Asians in California, 1540 01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:05.600 and how well they have done, or Asians all over America, 1541 01:54:05.960 --> 01:54:13.199 and how well they've done Eastern Asians, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese phenomenal. Right, 1542 01:54:18.560 --> 01:54:29.039 all right, let's look at other, you know, other questions related. 1543 01:54:29.800 --> 01:54:32.680 James says, the level of consistent negativity, hate, and racism 1544 01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:35.840 I'm seeing online has to be indicative of some type 1545 01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:39.239 of pre Nazi formation. Millions of people must be living 1546 01:54:39.279 --> 01:54:44.199 miserable lives to lash out like this. Millions of people 1547 01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:47.359 are convinced they living miserable lives, and that makes them 1548 01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:50.279 miserable because they convince their miserable lives. But their lives 1549 01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:56.520 are pretty good actually, And it's hard to tell if 1550 01:54:56.520 --> 01:55:02.039 it's millions of people. Again, social media is very distorting. 1551 01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:06.840 I know there's on Twitter, I see all these posts, 1552 01:55:06.840 --> 01:55:10.199 but how many people posted these posts that I read? 1553 01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:16.439 Two hundred, five hundred one thousand some millions? Are they 1554 01:55:16.439 --> 01:55:23.239 really representative? I mean, in poll after poll after poll, 1555 01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:27.800 most Americans say they want more high skilled labor immigrants. 1556 01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:32.760 Seventy plus percent of Americans left and right want more 1557 01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:40.760 high skilled immigration. So the Steve Bannon and I forget 1558 01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:43.840 her name, the crazy woman on the right are they 1559 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:48.880 representative of how many people, how many people actually constitute 1560 01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:54.199 maga on this kind of maga, this completely xenophobic, racist maga. 1561 01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:58.119 Now it's true that you a minority can take over 1562 01:55:58.159 --> 01:56:01.319 a country, and MAGA could take a this country, and 1563 01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:05.119 it's what I fear with somebody like JD. Van's And 1564 01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:15.359 we'll see. But don't let social media distort your perspective 1565 01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:17.399 on the country. And that is look at poles, look 1566 01:56:17.439 --> 01:56:22.239 at look at what average Americans actually think. Luna. Luna 1567 01:56:22.279 --> 01:56:24.960 is the crazy woman in the way that I'm thinking of. 1568 01:56:26.159 --> 01:56:30.800 Marjorie Taylor Green, funnily enough, was on Elon Musk side. 1569 01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:34.960 I guess as long as you exclude Jews with lasers, 1570 01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:38.800 it's okay to have immigrants. You know, I don't know 1571 01:56:38.960 --> 01:56:44.279 how Marjorie Taylor Green thinks is too big of a 1572 01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:46.640 word for her. So I don't think it's thinks, it's 1573 01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:57.159 something else. Yeah, yeah, don't God, don't be so negative. 1574 01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:12.720 Let's see more. We'll get to that, all right. Mari Lean, 1575 01:57:13.239 --> 01:57:16.159 My great grandfather arrived at the Ellis Island from Italy 1576 01:57:16.199 --> 01:57:19.079 in nineteen oh five. They were checked to ensure that 1577 01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:22.159 they were healthy. We have the documents, but that was it. 1578 01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:25.840 Papa worked as a coal miner in the Pacific Northwest. 1579 01:57:26.359 --> 01:57:29.439 It was pretty simple. Oh yeah, no, And that's that's 1580 01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:33.359 what you want. Ultimately. Ultimately, that's the kind of immigration system, 1581 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:35.880 the open borders that I allowed people to come in. 1582 01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:39.239 Once you check they're not criminals, they're not terrorists, and 1583 01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:43.039 they have don't have infectious diseases, let them in. Let 1584 01:57:43.079 --> 01:57:51.079 them in. Chasbat says, French consulate. Have you got a 1585 01:57:51.119 --> 01:57:56.640 twenty seven B six? Is that from the movie Brazil? 1586 01:57:58.439 --> 01:58:00.520 I can't remember what movie that is? The twenty seven 1587 01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:08.800 B six? Thanks Shas Bud Jeff. This is a quote 1588 01:58:08.800 --> 01:58:13.840 from a Queen Cordet poem. I guess so come, let's 1589 01:58:13.960 --> 01:58:17.600 toast the freedom song. And may someday you pass along. 1590 01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:22.840 It matters not which border crossed to nurse to nurse 1591 01:58:23.319 --> 01:58:30.800 hands or shoreline lost. You're here, you'll hear at last. Yeah. 1592 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:33.560 We should, you know, God, we should be welcoming and 1593 01:58:33.680 --> 01:58:45.479 embracing and celebrating immigrants, all right, Barbara. Ever since I 1594 01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:50.039 started my first business, I have hired immigrants. I have 1595 01:58:50.119 --> 01:58:52.800 a theory that the reason they are such great employees 1596 01:58:53.640 --> 01:58:56.479 is that they were enterprising enough to go to the 1597 01:58:56.560 --> 01:59:00.600 new country. I love seeing them grow. Absolutely. I should 1598 01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:05.159 have mentioned that we get the best because they know 1599 01:59:05.239 --> 01:59:08.960 what's demanded of them. They have to work and they 1600 01:59:09.039 --> 01:59:12.279 have to make a huge effort. That is an expression 1601 01:59:12.319 --> 01:59:18.399 of their ambition to come here, to come here, which 1602 01:59:18.520 --> 01:59:25.159 is a huge achievement. So yes, I think that the 1603 01:59:25.479 --> 01:59:31.720 ambition necessary to come to America represents their willingness to 1604 01:59:31.800 --> 01:59:38.399 work hard, and they're more broad ambition regarding life and 1605 01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:50.079 their careers. James, happy knew you on? Happy you knew 1606 01:59:50.119 --> 01:59:52.119 you on? I know it's far off, but what would 1607 01:59:52.119 --> 01:59:54.880 be the vision if the US became such a popular 1608 01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:58.880 country that we truly utilized all the physical space and resources, 1609 01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:01.439 something like US as vision of space travel. 1610 02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:02.560 You know. 1611 02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:08.199 That is truly impossible. You could you could actually house 1612 02:00:08.359 --> 02:00:10.520 eight billion people on the land master that is the 1613 02:00:10.640 --> 02:00:13.439 United States. Not I think we would or should. But 1614 02:00:13.640 --> 02:00:17.880 here's the things. Markets take care of that rights. As 1615 02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:26.159 land becomes less available, prices go up, it becomes more 1616 02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:31.199 difficult to be old, and fewer people come. And look, 1617 02:00:31.279 --> 02:00:34.600 the reality is that most people, an overwhelming majority of 1618 02:00:34.640 --> 02:00:37.039 people around the world, don't want to come to the 1619 02:00:37.199 --> 02:00:42.199 United States. They want to live in their countries. They 1620 02:00:42.279 --> 02:00:46.880 want to live where they grow up. They have a 1621 02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:50.720 certain sense of place and they don't want to come 1622 02:00:50.720 --> 02:00:53.800 to the US. And that's fine. I think in a 1623 02:00:54.479 --> 02:00:57.439 in a survey, I saw a Pew Research survey. They 1624 02:00:57.520 --> 02:01:00.800 ask people all over the world. They did and they 1625 02:01:01.880 --> 02:01:05.239 estimate that one hundred and sixty million people in the 1626 02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:07.359 world today would like to move to the United States. 1627 02:01:07.520 --> 02:01:10.239 Of eight billion, that's not a lot. I would have 1628 02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:12.600 thought the number would be bigger. One hundred and sixty million. 1629 02:01:13.520 --> 02:01:15.840 It's not a big deal. Now, you know, you don't 1630 02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:17.600 want one hundred and sixty million are showing up the 1631 02:01:17.640 --> 02:01:19.920 same date. But you won't have that because one hundred 1632 02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:23.399 and sixty million people couldn't find a job tomorrow. What 1633 02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:27.359 would dictate the pace of movement to the United States 1634 02:01:28.560 --> 02:01:30.520 is the pace at which jobs are created in the 1635 02:01:30.640 --> 02:01:32.880 United States. The jobs can be offered in the United 1636 02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:37.479 States to foreigners by employers who've never met the foreigner, 1637 02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:41.560 maybe by zoom, to employers who would be taking a 1638 02:01:41.640 --> 02:01:45.359 risk by hiring a foreigner, and there's some expense in 1639 02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:51.239 being the foreigner in so the pace is going to 1640 02:01:51.239 --> 02:01:56.000 be slow, which means millions a year, not hundreds of 1641 02:01:56.039 --> 02:02:00.840 millions a year, So no, it's just not real. It 1642 02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:04.359 wouldn't happen, and kind of market forces take care of it, 1643 02:02:05.760 --> 02:02:08.720 and maybe all this pressure will pressure other countries to 1644 02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:13.720 liberalize their economies and liberalize their countries so that they 1645 02:02:13.800 --> 02:02:19.960 encourage people to stay. Wes, as I've been looking forward 1646 02:02:19.960 --> 02:02:22.239 to this show. I owe a lot of my current 1647 02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:25.560 career success to immigrants I worked for and worked with. 1648 02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:29.720 Thank you, Wes. Appreciate the support and I'm glad that's 1649 02:02:29.760 --> 02:02:36.840 the case, and thank you all right, Michael. How close 1650 02:02:36.960 --> 02:02:41.159 is Alex Davivik and Trump? Will we have a lot? 1651 02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:42.800 Will he have a lot of influence over the next 1652 02:02:42.840 --> 02:02:45.840 four years. I don't think he's very close to Trump. 1653 02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:47.439 I don't know if he's close to Vivic. I think 1654 02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:50.680 he is. I think he's talk to Vivic and consulting. 1655 02:02:50.760 --> 02:02:55.119 I think he's consult with Vivic on energy. I don't 1656 02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:58.000 know how much influence he'll have over the next four years. 1657 02:02:58.920 --> 02:03:01.439 He's he I think you'll have quite a bit of 1658 02:03:01.520 --> 02:03:05.039 influence on energy policy. He might have influence beyond that. 1659 02:03:05.279 --> 02:03:07.479 He knows a lot of people in a transition team, 1660 02:03:09.159 --> 02:03:11.399 not Trump necessarily, but a lot of people around Trump 1661 02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:16.439 who knows I just don't know, and I don't want 1662 02:03:16.439 --> 02:03:19.239 to speculate, and I don't jinx anything for him. So again, 1663 02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:22.760 he knows the people in energy, but he knows more 1664 02:03:22.840 --> 02:03:25.279 than that. He knows a lot of the people involved. 1665 02:03:27.840 --> 02:03:30.840 And hopefully some of the ideas that we're articulating here 1666 02:03:30.880 --> 02:03:34.159 on the Ion Book Show will make it into the administration, 1667 02:03:34.520 --> 02:03:40.399 partially through Alex. Maybe we'll see James, there are no optimistic, 1668 02:03:40.479 --> 02:03:45.039 positive people to leave benevolent comments. No, that's just not true. 1669 02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:49.560 That's just not true. James, James is so pessimistic, he's 1670 02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:54.760 so down in the world right now. Gotta look at 1671 02:03:54.760 --> 02:03:58.239 all the benevolence here, not all benevolence. There's some malevolent 1672 02:03:58.279 --> 02:04:00.199 people here, but look at all I mean, it's it's 1673 02:04:00.199 --> 02:04:05.840 not true in terms of comments. Most benevolent people just 1674 02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:09.439 don't leave comments. They just go on. They're living, they're engaged. 1675 02:04:09.479 --> 02:04:12.640 It's some people who relish, these stupid people falling off 1676 02:04:12.680 --> 02:04:19.399 of ladders who leave comments. Else just move on, all right, 1677 02:04:19.640 --> 02:04:29.159 We're not going to do that. M Yeah, Henry, how 1678 02:04:29.239 --> 02:04:32.760 you on hope all is well? Thoughts on UK immigration absent, 1679 02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:35.880 eliminating all welfare? What is the rational policy? 1680 02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:36.199 Then? 1681 02:04:36.199 --> 02:04:40.079 Their value add from immigration in the UK appears less 1682 02:04:40.119 --> 02:04:43.720 concrete judaile welfare system. I think you have a number 1683 02:04:43.720 --> 02:04:45.720 of problems in the UK. One is the welfare system, 1684 02:04:46.079 --> 02:04:48.560 which is much larger than it is in America, much 1685 02:04:48.600 --> 02:04:52.199 more substantial, covers healthcare, for example, in a much more 1686 02:04:52.239 --> 02:04:55.960 overwhelming way than American health cases the American mid welfare 1687 02:04:56.000 --> 02:05:02.600 system does. So it's a problem. But also so multiculturalism. 1688 02:05:03.680 --> 02:05:07.479 The lack of rule of law is so much more 1689 02:05:07.600 --> 02:05:12.439 entrenched in the UK and that has to change. That 1690 02:05:12.680 --> 02:05:15.119 is the idea that there are two sets of laws, 1691 02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:18.520 one for the Brits and one for immigrants, that we're 1692 02:05:18.560 --> 02:05:22.640 not going to prosecute immigrants because that's culturally insensitive. They 1693 02:05:22.640 --> 02:05:25.560 We're not going to go after rape gangs because you 1694 02:05:25.640 --> 02:05:27.520 know that's the culture. What can we do? We might 1695 02:05:27.600 --> 02:05:32.840 we don't appear racists. That has to end, no matter, 1696 02:05:33.279 --> 02:05:36.520 it doesn't matter, and nothing else matters. That is just 1697 02:05:36.720 --> 02:05:44.960 sick and wrong and evil and destructive and offensive. And yeah, 1698 02:05:45.079 --> 02:05:50.000 I mean, so you cannot. It doesn't matter what I 1699 02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:53.039 say about immigration. It doesn't matter what your immigration policy 1700 02:05:53.199 --> 02:05:56.439 is if you don't have the rule of law. And 1701 02:05:56.560 --> 02:05:59.479 this is true in Sweden, in Germany, and Europe. If 1702 02:06:00.119 --> 02:06:05.399 if you'peing countries are not willing to enforce the law 1703 02:06:05.680 --> 02:06:10.119 on immigrants, then the last and it's not that changing 1704 02:06:10.159 --> 02:06:14.000 their wingrasion policy will change anything, because that attitude of 1705 02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:18.760 not being willing to enforce the law is such an 1706 02:06:18.800 --> 02:06:22.720 attitude that it is so destructive it will destroy the 1707 02:06:22.840 --> 02:06:25.680 country in other aspects of it. So it doesn't matter 1708 02:06:25.840 --> 02:06:31.880 that has the change that's in Sweden, in Germany, in 1709 02:06:32.640 --> 02:06:35.600 you know, just enforce the law. If you rape somebody, 1710 02:06:36.720 --> 02:06:40.000 full force of the law. If you have a gang rape, 1711 02:06:40.640 --> 02:06:45.119 put them in jail and throw away the keys. If 1712 02:06:45.159 --> 02:06:50.680 you beat up your wife, go to jail. You know, 1713 02:06:50.920 --> 02:06:55.359 if you're involved in rights violating, if you're involved in violence, 1714 02:06:55.399 --> 02:06:59.760 in particular violence, you have to have the laws enforced 1715 02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:04.720 against you. Only then can we discuss immigration. So if 1716 02:07:04.760 --> 02:07:10.119 you can change that then and you can change in 1717 02:07:10.199 --> 02:07:14.720 the UK in particular the free speech issues. Again, without 1718 02:07:14.720 --> 02:07:17.520 free speech, everything else is irrelevant. Who cares about immigration? 1719 02:07:19.760 --> 02:07:22.159 Then you can have a very similar immigration policy than 1720 02:07:22.199 --> 02:07:29.720 what articulated for the United States, a robust employment based 1721 02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:37.479 immigration system that restricts their ability to get welfare. Now 1722 02:07:37.520 --> 02:07:39.600 they're going to get healthcare stuff, but at least other 1723 02:07:39.720 --> 02:07:46.640 welfare completely they get zero welfare and that requires them 1724 02:07:46.720 --> 02:07:50.439 to bude by the law, does not give them citizenship 1725 02:07:50.800 --> 02:07:55.079 for twenty to twenty five years, so restricts their political 1726 02:07:55.119 --> 02:07:59.640 power significantly. And maybe in the case of the UK, 1727 02:07:59.800 --> 02:08:04.399 they never gets citizenship because of kind of the tricky 1728 02:08:04.439 --> 02:08:07.640 balance of politics in the UK. Only the children can vote, 1729 02:08:08.439 --> 02:08:11.960 you know, so you know, you adapt basically the solution 1730 02:08:12.079 --> 02:08:14.960 I just gave from America to the UK. But first 1731 02:08:15.039 --> 02:08:17.159 the UK needs to get it to act together. It 1732 02:08:17.279 --> 02:08:22.680 needs to understand who you are and enforce the laws. 1733 02:08:23.720 --> 02:08:27.760 And God, the UK should be the best in a 1734 02:08:27.840 --> 02:08:33.119 free speech and I would say that is true of 1735 02:08:33.399 --> 02:08:36.640 the rest of Europe. And then what I said about 1736 02:08:36.720 --> 02:08:42.079 Islamism is definitely the case with God to UK and 1737 02:08:42.119 --> 02:08:46.800 Europe where there are millions now of Islamists. If you're 1738 02:08:46.800 --> 02:08:51.920 an Islamist, you get kicked out. You're gone. The ideology 1739 02:08:52.000 --> 02:08:58.439 of Islamism has no place in the civilized world. If 1740 02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:06.920 you are an advocate for ideas that are anonymical, not anymical, 1741 02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:11.520 that are at war literally at war with the West, 1742 02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:17.199 right now, you're gone. You're not there. Put it on 1743 02:09:17.279 --> 02:09:20.239 a plane and you're shipped to whatever country you came from, 1744 02:09:22.000 --> 02:09:26.119 and you know, and that includes I think external manifestations 1745 02:09:26.239 --> 02:09:34.520 of Sharia law, external manifications of Islamism, like the Booker right, 1746 02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:40.039 Catholic nationalism is not at war with the West. It's 1747 02:09:40.079 --> 02:09:47.560 not a war with the US fans UK. It's an 1748 02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:50.960 ideology that's hostile to it. But that's within the scope 1749 02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:54.039 of free speech. They're not using violence to try to 1750 02:09:54.039 --> 02:09:58.560 attain their goal. Islamism is by being a supporter of Islamism, 1751 02:09:58.840 --> 02:10:02.840 you're supporting the you're supporting the regimes that would take 1752 02:10:02.920 --> 02:10:08.640 over the Western world and enslaved to Sharia. That cannot 1753 02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:15.840 be accepted. But then again, the West has to identified 1754 02:10:15.840 --> 02:10:23.680 the enemy, has to identified the enemy. So Islamists, not 1755 02:10:23.840 --> 02:10:29.600 all Muslims, not all Muslims at all, not even all 1756 02:10:29.680 --> 02:10:35.960 religious Muslims, but all Islamists, all those who adhere to that, 1757 02:10:36.079 --> 02:10:37.960 and there are a lot of them. Let's be clear. 1758 02:10:38.239 --> 02:10:40.680 I don't know what percentage of the immigrants of Islamists, 1759 02:10:41.279 --> 02:10:43.840 but it's not any significant percent. Might not be, not 1760 02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:52.560 be a majority, but it's not any significant percent. They 1761 02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:54.560 gotta go. I mean, if you if you know, if 1762 02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:58.119 you were an active communists, and we would war with 1763 02:10:58.239 --> 02:11:09.800 communism active communists, participating communists, then yeah, you know there 1764 02:11:09.800 --> 02:11:15.720 would be consequences. Now, we were never at war with 1765 02:11:15.840 --> 02:11:18.640 Communism in the same way that we're war with Islamism 1766 02:11:18.760 --> 02:11:24.279 right now. So certainly no immigration from the for Islamists. 1767 02:11:25.239 --> 02:11:27.720 And you have to be very skeptical of immigration from 1768 02:11:27.800 --> 02:11:29.640 Muslim countries because of that. So you have to be 1769 02:11:30.199 --> 02:11:35.079 you have to be super super what do you call it, 1770 02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:37.720 restrictive in terms of immigration Muslim countries. And that was 1771 02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:46.479 the joke of Trump's restrictions and Muslim immigration, right, but 1772 02:11:46.600 --> 02:11:50.159 it was okay to come from Saudi Arabia, no special 1773 02:11:50.239 --> 02:11:53.199 screening for Saudis, even though fifteen of the terrorists and 1774 02:11:53.479 --> 02:11:58.600 nine to eleven was Saudis. It was just inconsistent and 1775 02:11:58.760 --> 02:12:03.680 stupid and into whoever lobbied the hardest. It had nothing 1776 02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:18.840 to do with actual national security, James. There's no ability 1777 02:12:19.720 --> 02:12:23.199 to claim try to improve government efficiency without being able 1778 02:12:23.239 --> 02:12:26.680 to vet immigrants, prevent them from taking public benefits, or 1779 02:12:26.720 --> 02:12:33.399 address whatever security concerns they claimed. Yeah, I mean they 1780 02:12:33.399 --> 02:12:36.039 have no ability to claim to try. Yes, yeah, I 1781 02:12:36.079 --> 02:12:37.399 mean you should be able to do all that. It 1782 02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:41.399 shouldn't be that hard. None of that is hard. None 1783 02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:54.239 of that is hard, Jonathan says, is americanism. Ran mentioned 1784 02:12:55.359 --> 02:12:58.239 there were no passports needed until World War One. Yes, 1785 02:12:58.840 --> 02:13:01.560 bef World War One, there were no Nobody used the passport. 1786 02:13:02.000 --> 02:13:06.720 People just went, They traveled from place to place. Sometimes 1787 02:13:06.760 --> 02:13:11.000 they needed some kind of personal identification, you know, maybe 1788 02:13:11.039 --> 02:13:13.039 if there was a state of war or some crisis 1789 02:13:13.159 --> 02:13:15.319 or something. But most of the time they just traveled 1790 02:13:15.319 --> 02:13:17.239 from place to place. Nobody was strict to them, just 1791 02:13:17.279 --> 02:13:20.239 like you do in Europe today, within the European Union, 1792 02:13:20.319 --> 02:13:23.159 within the shng GEN, you just drive. You cross borders 1793 02:13:23.159 --> 02:13:26.439 all the time, and it's beautiful. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing. 1794 02:13:27.159 --> 02:13:30.600 I love the shnghen in Europe, the idea that you 1795 02:13:30.680 --> 02:13:34.880 can drive from France to Germany and to Austria, to 1796 02:13:35.039 --> 02:13:42.960 Italy to Romania, to just drive. It's truly amazing. You 1797 02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:47.640 fly into these countries, it's like domestic flights. That's in 1798 02:13:47.760 --> 02:13:52.039 an ideal place. That would be that would be the world, 1799 02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:56.840 that would be literally their world. There'd be no restrictions. 1800 02:13:59.279 --> 02:14:03.920 We don't live in that world anymore. Sadly, Sadly, by 1801 02:14:04.000 --> 02:14:11.720 the way, I mentioned, the American is a book, but 1802 02:14:11.800 --> 02:14:16.840 this is an Americanism book really really crucial when you're 1803 02:14:16.840 --> 02:14:20.720 talking about immigration and what is American, what American represents, 1804 02:14:20.800 --> 02:14:24.760 what is America's American ideas America people? What is all that? 1805 02:14:25.680 --> 02:14:33.000 You know? Read this book? Jonathan Honing edited it. Was 1806 02:14:33.039 --> 02:14:42.640 there a section of immigration here? Yeah? I don't think 1807 02:14:42.640 --> 02:14:47.279 there was, But I've got an essay here and I 1808 02:14:47.319 --> 02:14:50.199 think I covered immigration there. I can't remember, but yeah, 1809 02:14:51.760 --> 02:14:54.000 go to Amazon buy the book, read it. Read it 1810 02:14:54.520 --> 02:14:59.800 more importantly. Okay, John, I live in Minneapolis and con 1811 02:15:00.079 --> 02:15:04.720 doing leaving because it's becoming a shithole because of some Alis. Okay, leave? 1812 02:15:06.720 --> 02:15:09.000 Why is that supposed to bother anybody? You know? When 1813 02:15:09.479 --> 02:15:14.079 when Irish showed up in Boston, people were horrified, Many 1814 02:15:14.119 --> 02:15:20.560 people wanted to leave. People wouldn't employ Irish people. A 1815 02:15:20.680 --> 02:15:23.920 lot of places, you know, people immigrant people moved there 1816 02:15:23.960 --> 02:15:27.359 and the locals didn't like them, and they left. So 1817 02:15:27.680 --> 02:15:30.600 leave Minneapolis. You don't like it. Leave? Who's holding you 1818 02:15:30.640 --> 02:15:33.680 back in Minneapolis? The fact that immigrants come and they 1819 02:15:33.880 --> 02:15:38.760 change something, maybe for the worst in some cases. But 1820 02:15:38.960 --> 02:15:41.920 remember too, some Alis came there, not on work visas, 1821 02:15:42.680 --> 02:15:46.680 they came there because of again some kind of humanitarian efforts, 1822 02:15:46.720 --> 02:15:51.800 some kind of some kind of asylum stuff, some kind 1823 02:15:51.840 --> 02:15:57.399 of altruistic bs. Would the same Somalis be in Minneapolis 1824 02:15:57.439 --> 02:15:59.119 if they had to show if they had to get 1825 02:15:59.159 --> 02:16:02.760 a job before they showed up with the same Somalis 1826 02:16:02.800 --> 02:16:05.039 be in Minneapolis if the system was the way I 1827 02:16:05.199 --> 02:16:12.000 described it, Probably not. Probably not. So you know, the 1828 02:16:12.079 --> 02:16:14.920 fact that you don't like Somalis and you don't like 1829 02:16:15.680 --> 02:16:23.399 the ship hole, they've created a leave b that has 1830 02:16:23.560 --> 02:16:27.279 nothing to do with what I'm proposing, nothing to do 1831 02:16:27.600 --> 02:16:38.799 with what I'm proposing, Andrews says, preversing rand racism is 1832 02:16:38.920 --> 02:16:42.479 a crude form of collectivism and individualist racist is a 1833 02:16:42.520 --> 02:16:49.840 contradiction in terms yep. By the way, I've heard from 1834 02:16:50.840 --> 02:16:54.239 other places in Minneapol, Minnesota where some Alis went to 1835 02:16:54.319 --> 02:16:58.239 work and there's not a big Somali community, but they 1836 02:16:58.319 --> 02:17:01.360 went to work in more Rule, Minnesota that they're great 1837 02:17:01.399 --> 02:17:03.360 employees and they do great and they live in the 1838 02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:07.159 community and they have no problems with them. So it's 1839 02:17:07.319 --> 02:17:13.840 partially why these particular Somalis are in Minneapolis. And it 1840 02:17:13.920 --> 02:17:15.840 has to do with family unification, and it has to 1841 02:17:15.920 --> 02:17:18.159 do with asylum seekers, and it has to do with 1842 02:17:18.639 --> 02:17:21.239 all these altruistic reasons. The all immigration. It doesn't have 1843 02:17:21.319 --> 02:17:24.399 to do with the kind of requirements that I'm suggesting. 1844 02:17:25.399 --> 02:17:32.079 And another hand, will there be no localized negative implications? Yeah, 1845 02:17:32.280 --> 02:17:37.959 they will be. You don't have a right for your environment, 1846 02:17:39.040 --> 02:17:41.319 not the au breathe of the water you drink, not 1847 02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:44.280 to be turned into shithole by your neighbors. You don't 1848 02:17:44.319 --> 02:17:46.440 have a right to a job. You don't have a 1849 02:17:46.559 --> 02:17:51.280 right to a wage. It is what it is, and 1850 02:17:51.440 --> 02:17:54.600 if you don't like it, do something about it. One 1851 02:17:54.639 --> 02:17:56.879 of the things you can do about is move I 1852 02:17:57.680 --> 02:18:02.879 you know, it's part of life. Uh No, I don't 1853 02:18:02.879 --> 02:18:05.319 want to answer that. Wait, no, not that I want 1854 02:18:05.360 --> 02:18:08.840 to answer it later. Okay, John again, Have Muslims in 1855 02:18:08.920 --> 02:18:13.360 France may made the society better. Many Muslims in Fans 1856 02:18:13.440 --> 02:18:17.399 have some of their best artists in fans, some of 1857 02:18:17.440 --> 02:18:21.959 the best musicians in fans, some of the most you know, 1858 02:18:22.120 --> 02:18:27.520 the best cultural people in the culture and in economy 1859 02:18:27.600 --> 02:18:33.440 are Muslims. Many have not for the reasons I've already stated, 1860 02:18:33.559 --> 02:18:37.479 because the laws and fans have not been enforced. Welfare 1861 02:18:37.520 --> 02:18:42.319 has been generously provided, the whole neighborhoods are not policed, 1862 02:18:43.920 --> 02:18:48.879 Islamists are not kept out. But are they Muslims in 1863 02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:53.040 fans that have contributed immensely to French culture and the 1864 02:18:53.079 --> 02:19:02.360 French economy. Absolutely, unequivocally. Why would they not? Is it 1865 02:19:02.440 --> 02:19:06.319 impossible for Muslim to be an incredible employee? Is it 1866 02:19:06.399 --> 02:19:10.040 impossible for Muslim to be a good novelist or no? 1867 02:19:10.719 --> 02:19:12.639 It depends on what it means to say that a 1868 02:19:12.719 --> 02:19:16.399 Muslim house seriously, they take their religion. It's pure collectivism. 1869 02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:24.639 It's pure collectivism as fans screwed up its attitude towards 1870 02:19:24.680 --> 02:19:29.120 immigrants and towards Muslims, Muslim immigrants in particular. Absolutely, but 1871 02:19:29.520 --> 02:19:34.000 that's what my policy is trying to amend for. And again, 1872 02:19:34.079 --> 02:19:40.280 Europe is somewhat different animal than the United States. Boba. 1873 02:19:41.000 --> 02:19:44.719 I love these questions, not Boba's question, these other you know, 1874 02:19:45.600 --> 02:19:48.280 John's questions. He always asks these questions. He doesn't really 1875 02:19:48.319 --> 02:19:51.920 care about my answer. He doesn't care one. I mean, 1876 02:19:51.959 --> 02:19:53.920 at least he puts money to it, so I appreciate 1877 02:19:54.000 --> 02:19:56.479 that and I respect that, But he doesn't care about 1878 02:19:56.520 --> 02:20:00.719 what my answer is. That got your questions, questions to 1879 02:20:00.920 --> 02:20:02.840 get you the audience to think, oh, Jon doesn't know 1880 02:20:02.879 --> 02:20:06.440 what he's talking about John just got him Muslims and fans. 1881 02:20:06.479 --> 02:20:10.200 I got him. That's the only purpose. The purpose is 1882 02:20:10.239 --> 02:20:12.760 not I'm curious what Jeron thinks about this. He knows 1883 02:20:12.840 --> 02:20:17.639 exactly what I think about it. It's just, yeah, they 1884 02:20:17.719 --> 02:20:22.120 have no productive purpose. But it's five bucks. I'll take it. Boba. 1885 02:20:22.719 --> 02:20:25.520 Fabulous show tonight. The thought of what the US could 1886 02:20:25.559 --> 02:20:27.920 be is exciting. Maybe some way, some day it will 1887 02:20:27.959 --> 02:20:33.440 be maybe, maybe we walk towards that. All right, let's 1888 02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:38.360 see Mary Eleen. Many people don't want to have to 1889 02:20:38.399 --> 02:20:41.280 work harder, and above all, they don't think they should 1890 02:20:41.319 --> 02:20:44.760 have to learn new skills. The divine writer is stagnation. Absolutely, 1891 02:20:44.760 --> 02:20:47.680 it's a great esset by Iron Ran. It's absolutely true. 1892 02:20:48.000 --> 02:20:51.719 And look, they don't have to work harder, but they 1893 02:20:51.799 --> 02:20:56.440 need they need to accept the consequence of the decisions. 1894 02:21:00.959 --> 02:21:03.920 They need to accept the consequence of the decisions. Don't 1895 02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:10.120 work hard it but have low, low income, less wealth, 1896 02:21:11.719 --> 02:21:16.680 you know, don't learn new skills. That means you'll you'll 1897 02:21:18.360 --> 02:21:24.920 degrade in the economic status and the quality of your career. Fine, 1898 02:21:26.360 --> 02:21:29.840 that is, people can do it. It's a it's a 1899 02:21:30.799 --> 02:21:34.040 as i Ran described it, it's a slow, agonizing death. 1900 02:21:35.159 --> 02:21:38.079 They can do it. America is the land of the free. 1901 02:21:38.559 --> 02:21:41.479 You're free to die, you free to kill yourself, you 1902 02:21:41.559 --> 02:21:47.040 free to com meet suicide. I said that too. I 1903 02:21:47.120 --> 02:21:51.000 forget his name, Sullivan, Andrew Sullivan, the conservative Andrew Sullivan. 1904 02:21:52.479 --> 02:21:57.920 He flipped out. I mean, he completely freaked out, you know, 1905 02:21:58.000 --> 02:22:03.319 because he wanted what he called, uh, rocking chair conservatives, 1906 02:22:03.399 --> 02:22:07.159 front porch conservatives, funch porch conservatives. You know, sit on 1907 02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:10.680 the go to work, work eight hours, make enough of 1908 02:22:10.760 --> 02:22:13.360 a living so you can relax on your funch porch, 1909 02:22:14.239 --> 02:22:18.479 in your rocking chair and just just chill, just chill. 1910 02:22:19.360 --> 02:22:23.760 That is his ideal. I mean, it's not how he lives, 1911 02:22:24.479 --> 02:22:27.920 but he sees nothing wrong with people advocating for stagnation. 1912 02:22:29.719 --> 02:22:34.760 It's sad, is what it is. It's just sad. No says, 1913 02:22:34.840 --> 02:22:36.959 you don't have a racist bone in your body. I 1914 02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:39.440 like that about you, Yon, Thank you. That's a real compliment. 1915 02:22:39.520 --> 02:22:45.399 I appreciate that. No, let's see ic Saracen. The Ottoman 1916 02:22:45.399 --> 02:22:49.520 Empire hired Spanish Jews in their administration. Should the Taliban 1917 02:22:49.600 --> 02:22:54.879 consider hiding Orthodox Jews to help govern Afghanistan? I think 1918 02:22:54.879 --> 02:22:57.600 the Ottoman Empire was a lot more secular than the Taliban. 1919 02:22:57.680 --> 02:23:00.520 I think pretty much anybody is more secular than the Taliban, 1920 02:23:01.280 --> 02:23:03.280 And I don't I don't know what to do with 1921 02:23:03.360 --> 02:23:09.079 that question. Should the Taliban obviously they won't. All right, 1922 02:23:10.159 --> 02:23:13.000 unrelated questions, we have four of them. Oh wait, what 1923 02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:15.040 are your favorite places to visit in New York City? 1924 02:23:15.040 --> 02:23:18.799 I'm here for New Years. Wow. I mean, it's it's 1925 02:23:18.840 --> 02:23:21.079 cold right now. So the first fifth Avenue in the 1926 02:23:21.159 --> 02:23:26.399 whole Midtown area and and you know, uh, what do 1927 02:23:26.440 --> 02:23:31.239 you call it? Central Park? The lights? Central Park is beautiful. 1928 02:23:32.000 --> 02:23:33.600 I haven't been in the winter in a long time, 1929 02:23:33.680 --> 02:23:36.079 but it's it's beautiful. And if it's snows, it's gorgeous, 1930 02:23:36.120 --> 02:23:39.120 all white, it's all lit up. That whole area is 1931 02:23:39.200 --> 02:23:42.479 lit up. The stores are lit up. That's amazing. So 1932 02:23:42.680 --> 02:23:48.319 just walking around Manhattan is fun. I like, you know, 1933 02:23:48.600 --> 02:23:50.239 when I'm there as a tourist, I like, I'd like 1934 02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:55.360 to go down to the old where the Twin Towers were, 1935 02:23:56.239 --> 02:24:01.520 and and and the monument there is is is very emotional. 1936 02:24:02.879 --> 02:24:06.799 Going up to the top of the new tower, what's 1937 02:24:06.840 --> 02:24:09.680 it called Liberty Tower something like that to see the 1938 02:24:09.799 --> 02:24:12.799 view is amazing. There's another place that has a great 1939 02:24:12.879 --> 02:24:19.079 view further uptown. Oh god, I forget the name of 1940 02:24:19.200 --> 02:24:24.280 that district. Anyway, there are a lot of areas that 1941 02:24:24.360 --> 02:24:27.760 are pretty to walk. Okay, so so downtown, you want 1942 02:24:27.799 --> 02:24:29.680 to go see Wall Street. It's just cool to see 1943 02:24:29.719 --> 02:24:33.000 Wall Street and to walk around that area to see 1944 02:24:33.040 --> 02:24:36.479 the Twin Towers or where the Twin Towers were. Take 1945 02:24:36.559 --> 02:24:39.959 up boat ride if the weather permits around Manhattan at night. 1946 02:24:40.159 --> 02:24:45.760 It's beautiful to the go to the what do you 1947 02:24:45.840 --> 02:24:49.440 call it, Statue of Liberty, go up to the Empire 1948 02:24:49.479 --> 02:24:56.239 State Building. Yeah, Greenwich Village in Soho and nice, a 1949 02:24:56.319 --> 02:24:59.959 lot of great restaurants. Yeah. I mean that's that's the start. 1950 02:25:02.479 --> 02:25:08.239 Thanks se Bubas. I suggest that you that you get 1951 02:25:08.799 --> 02:25:12.559 onto big venues like Stossel and Bill Maher, you will 1952 02:25:12.600 --> 02:25:16.399 get one million subscribers. So I won't get one million subscribers. 1953 02:25:16.399 --> 02:25:18.680 I can guarantee that I wish that would be nice, 1954 02:25:18.719 --> 02:25:21.879 but I won't be And I'm not going to get 1955 02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:24.399 on Bill Maher. I don't think Bill Maher has had 1956 02:25:24.440 --> 02:25:26.559 lots of opportunities to have me on and he's turned 1957 02:25:26.600 --> 02:25:30.200 him down. I've been on Stossel many many times. I 1958 02:25:30.239 --> 02:25:34.639 mean Stosso uses me on his videos all the time. 1959 02:25:35.479 --> 02:25:39.600 I mean, I encounter recuts of my interviews with Stosso 1960 02:25:40.920 --> 02:25:42.920 and I used to be on a television show all 1961 02:25:42.959 --> 02:25:45.200 the time, and so I've done a lot of Stosso. 1962 02:25:45.399 --> 02:25:48.959 But I am doing his one on one interviews. So 1963 02:25:49.120 --> 02:25:51.600 he's got a new series of one on one interviews 1964 02:25:52.799 --> 02:25:58.600 that he launched, and I will be interviewed on January 1965 02:25:58.639 --> 02:26:02.280 twenty second. I think I'm going to New York and 1966 02:26:02.760 --> 02:26:05.159 he'll interview me. I think it's an hour long interview, 1967 02:26:05.200 --> 02:26:07.920 so it's not like Lex Friedman three four hour interviews. 1968 02:26:07.959 --> 02:26:10.200 It'll be an hour. But that should be good and 1969 02:26:10.239 --> 02:26:12.399 that'll give me some subscribers. It won't give me a million, 1970 02:26:12.760 --> 02:26:15.520 but it'll give me some subscribers, so that'll be good. 1971 02:26:15.559 --> 02:26:18.120 But I will be I mean, I've I've had dinner 1972 02:26:18.200 --> 02:26:27.520 in Stossel's apartment years ago, and yeah, and I think 1973 02:26:27.719 --> 02:26:30.280 I think it would be it would be I think 1974 02:26:30.319 --> 02:26:31.719 the interview will be good and I think it will 1975 02:26:31.760 --> 02:26:34.520 definitely I'll see a jump up and subscriber's just not 1976 02:26:34.639 --> 02:26:40.040 as large as Babis thinks. Unfortunately, I wish he was right, 1977 02:26:40.479 --> 02:26:43.479 all right. Action Jackson says, if Israel we're able to 1978 02:26:47.000 --> 02:26:48.680 I don't know what that says with beepers to kill 1979 02:26:48.760 --> 02:26:52.840 Grisbela with beepers. Why should we not worry about China 1980 02:26:52.879 --> 02:26:54.760 et cetera doing the same thing in people in the 1981 02:26:54.879 --> 02:26:58.840 US iPhones or other tech well partially because something like 1982 02:26:58.879 --> 02:27:03.319 the iPhone, Apple controls the supply chain from the beginning 1983 02:27:03.399 --> 02:27:08.440 to end. It It isn't buying blindly from Chinese companies. 1984 02:27:09.399 --> 02:27:12.879 Apple is at every stage of production, in every single 1985 02:27:12.959 --> 02:27:19.600 stage it is, you know, controlling what goes into the iPhone. 1986 02:27:19.680 --> 02:27:24.440 How it's built, quality control everything, as do most American companies, 1987 02:27:24.639 --> 02:27:27.440 even when they produce stuff or buy stuff in China. 1988 02:27:27.879 --> 02:27:31.959 There are all kinds of quality controls. Now when you 1989 02:27:32.040 --> 02:27:35.440 buy a purely Chinese product, and a lot of the 1990 02:27:35.479 --> 02:27:39.239 products we are purely Chinese, you should be worried. I mean, 1991 02:27:39.319 --> 02:27:43.760 it could explode like the beepers. It probably won't because 1992 02:27:43.799 --> 02:27:46.239 the Chinese, I don't think interested in going to war 1993 02:27:46.280 --> 02:27:50.120 with America. But for example, a lot of you have 1994 02:27:50.559 --> 02:27:53.680 Wi Fi routers that are made in China, one hundred 1995 02:27:53.680 --> 02:28:00.200 percent made in China. Most of those probably have gate 1996 02:28:00.280 --> 02:28:03.159 ways to Chinese intelligence if they wanted to access them 1997 02:28:03.559 --> 02:28:07.399 and steal all your data. Just so you know, you 1998 02:28:07.520 --> 02:28:09.799 might want to make sure it's encrypted on your hard 1999 02:28:09.879 --> 02:28:13.479 drive so that you know whatever. I don't know, but yeah, 2000 02:28:13.559 --> 02:28:15.680 you should be worried about stuff made in China. This 2001 02:28:15.799 --> 02:28:22.079 is why, you know why way it was discovered that 2002 02:28:22.159 --> 02:28:27.440 the telecommunication equipment was completely available to Chinese intelligence, completely 2003 02:28:27.479 --> 02:28:30.920 open to them, and that's why they were banned from 2004 02:28:30.920 --> 02:28:35.719 the United States basically during the Trump administration because it 2005 02:28:35.879 --> 02:28:41.840 was clearly they were facilitating providing information in Chinese. So yeah, 2006 02:28:42.079 --> 02:28:46.440 anybody could do it, but they have to have the incentive, 2007 02:28:47.040 --> 02:28:52.440 the reason, and the capabilities. One reason to buy name 2008 02:28:52.600 --> 02:28:57.840 brands like Samsung and Ife and Apple is that they 2009 02:28:59.600 --> 02:29:04.200 have responsibility over the entire supply chain from beginning to end. 2010 02:29:16.040 --> 02:29:19.760 Hop up. How does South Korea score on the Economic 2011 02:29:19.840 --> 02:29:22.760 Freedom indecks? The only good TV shows seem to be 2012 02:29:22.840 --> 02:29:25.959 coming from South Korea. Squid Games season two is actually 2013 02:29:26.000 --> 02:29:31.040 pretty creative. I don't know. I mean season one was 2014 02:29:31.239 --> 02:29:35.920 so bad I can't imagine season two being worth watching. 2015 02:29:40.879 --> 02:29:45.239 Let's see, how do they score in economic freedom indecks? 2016 02:29:45.319 --> 02:29:51.479 I don't actually know. I mean top thirty, top twenty maybe, 2017 02:29:51.600 --> 02:29:54.520 but certainly top thirty. We can do this South Korea 2018 02:29:55.760 --> 02:30:02.719 Economic Freedom Index. There are two different ones, two economic 2019 02:30:02.760 --> 02:30:06.600 freedom indexes. South Korea's Economic freedom INEXES seventy three point one, 2020 02:30:06.680 --> 02:30:10.000 making its economy the fourteenth so higher than I expected 2021 02:30:10.040 --> 02:30:15.840 even fist economy in twenty fourteen based on the Heritage Index. 2022 02:30:18.280 --> 02:30:23.799 Let's see if there's there's another index put out by CATO. 2023 02:30:25.079 --> 02:30:29.280 Let's see if we can get that Economic Freedom Index 2024 02:30:29.360 --> 02:30:33.760 of the world. Korea is thirty second based on that one. 2025 02:30:34.200 --> 02:30:38.200 So according to Heritage fourteen, based on CATO thirty two. 2026 02:30:38.680 --> 02:30:40.159 So my guess in the twenty to the thirties were 2027 02:30:40.200 --> 02:30:44.799 pretty good, so twenties. So they're fear than France even 2028 02:30:45.159 --> 02:30:50.840 according to CATO, fear in Italy, fear in Mexico. They're 2029 02:30:50.879 --> 02:30:53.600 not as fi as Taiwan, not as fier as Japan 2030 02:30:53.920 --> 02:30:58.200 or Germany according to CATO. But according to Heritage fourteen 2031 02:30:58.639 --> 02:31:02.719 is way up there, would put them, you know, higher 2032 02:31:02.799 --> 02:31:07.159 than a lot of countries. I'm not sure what the US. 2033 02:31:07.200 --> 02:31:12.280 What's the US based on the Heritage one. Oops, it's Uruguay. 2034 02:31:12.399 --> 02:31:16.040 We know Uruguay. United States use is twenty fifth, so 2035 02:31:16.200 --> 02:31:20.479 freer than the US according to the Heritage So pretty 2036 02:31:20.479 --> 02:31:29.799 free relatively speaking, not absolutely speaking. All right, everybody, thank you. 2037 02:31:30.239 --> 02:31:33.120 I really appreciate all the super chatters, appreciate the support. 2038 02:31:33.799 --> 02:31:36.360 Don't forget I expect all of you to be there tomorrow, 2039 02:31:36.399 --> 02:31:39.920 at least for a little while. If you thought today's 2040 02:31:39.959 --> 02:31:44.120 was a great show, then come show your appreciation tomorrow 2041 02:31:45.239 --> 02:31:51.799 right with with a sticker or super chat. I expect 2042 02:31:52.200 --> 02:31:56.680 a lot of super chats, and you know, hopefully we 2043 02:31:56.760 --> 02:31:59.120 can blow through the fifteen thousand dollars number. The more 2044 02:31:59.120 --> 02:32:00.760 I think about it, the more it should be twenty. 2045 02:32:01.760 --> 02:32:04.719 But we'll take it one step at a time. We 2046 02:32:04.799 --> 02:32:10.920 can always change the goal mid show. So see all 2047 02:32:10.920 --> 02:32:13.360 tomorrow one pm East Coast time. It'll go on for 2048 02:32:13.360 --> 02:32:20.520 about four hours. And what will the topics? What will 2049 02:32:20.559 --> 02:32:24.200 be the topics? Earn fifteen thousand dollars. Fifteen thousand dollars 2050 02:32:24.399 --> 02:32:26.719 is all the topics that we've covered during the year. 2051 02:32:26.840 --> 02:32:30.159 So it's a show of appreciation for all the topics 2052 02:32:30.200 --> 02:32:32.559 that I've covered. But the topic for the show tomorrow 2053 02:32:33.159 --> 02:32:35.399 will be a as I always do at the end 2054 02:32:35.399 --> 02:32:40.079 of the year, a look back at twenty twenty four 2055 02:32:40.680 --> 02:32:45.079 summer way of the year. All right, okay, guys, I 2056 02:32:45.120 --> 02:32:48.520 will see you tomorrow. Thank you really appreciate it. If 2057 02:32:48.559 --> 02:32:50.399 you like the show, don't forget to share it. Like 2058 02:32:50.479 --> 02:32:55.319 it on the way out and see tomorrow. Bye everybody.