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Speaker 1: Welcome foolish mortals to the Surely you Can't Be Serious Podcasts.

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Here are your hosts, your ghost hoosts, Jason and d Hello,

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boyls and ghouls, Welcome back to the Surely you Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. To my left, I have d Graves

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who is covered in cockroaches. I have Course and covered

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with weeds, and I'm very itchy. And we're welcoming back,

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Amandagantic with our head on a platter to discuss creep

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Show and twilight Zone the movie in this wonderful, scary,

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spooky season of Halloween.

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Speaker 2: We are here on October two, twenty twenty four, exactly

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sixty five years two, the day from the day that

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the Twilight Zone series first aired on television. To Wow, Amanda,

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how you do? And thank you so much for joining

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us today.

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Speaker 3: I'm great, I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Amanda. You're like the scary movie queen. Right,

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You're the one who's gonna carry us through this episode.

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Speaker 3: No, no, that's for guys' job. I'm just here for fun.

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Speaker 1: You do like horror movies a lot, though, right, I do?

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Speaker 4: I do, but very niche horror movies though you know

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I'm not into the paranormal that kind of stuff. I'm

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more eighties kind of slasher, cheesy, slasher in the woods

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type of movies.

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Speaker 3: But these two are right up my alley as well.

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Speaker 1: So are you a King person?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I'm fanatical by any means. I read

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all the books when I was younger and stuff, and

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obviously saw all the movies. Christine is still one of

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my favorites to this day. Write fast on Hampse every year.

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Love Christine Carrie, absolutely love it. More of the movies

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than the books. I would say I don't have the

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attention span for two thousand page books.

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Speaker 1: You know, this time last year, you and I did

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Christine versus Kujoe versus The Dead Zone. Yeah, all Stephen

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King movies that came out in nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 2: Yep, And these movies are close to being forty years old.

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Speaker 1: So Creep Show was released November twelfth, nineteen eighty two,

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and Twilight Zone was released June twenty fourth, nineteen eighty three.

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I believe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so forty one and forty two respectively. Yeah, okay, fantastic.

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You guys know what happened on Christmas day, exactly one

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hundred years ago. Rod Serling was born Sunny Veil Arrest,

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a home for the agent, a dying place, and a

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common children's game called kick the Ken.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 2: I was reading about his childhood. He was raised by

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kind of you know, blue collar family. His dad worked

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as a grocer and then a butcher, but built him

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a stage downstairs because he could just make his own

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plays with or without an audience. Said that his family

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said that they got in the car one time and

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he just had this tendency to just talk and ask

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questions without waiting for an answer and just keep going.

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And so they all decided before they got in the

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car for this cross country trip that they weren't going

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to say anything and see a fraud would notice. He

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did not notice. Wow, And so he was an interesting guy.

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I mean, he's he's got these you know, plays in

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his head from being a little kid. And then he

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goes to war. He serves in World War Two. Was

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with a guy who was like doing a stand up

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routine for the troops, like another fellow soldier. They had

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like a crate of food was dropped for them and

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it landed on the guy doing the stand up routine

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and decapitated him. What he said that that, like his

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war experience, highly influenced how he wrote things. And so

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once he got back, he went to college, he started

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doing stuff in radio, ultimately started writing TV pilots because

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he figured radio was going out and it was the

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perfect time for somebody to be writing TV plays. Yeah,

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and so he wrote this play called Patterns Okay to

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tell a play and they actually performed it live. But

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he had just moved to New York City. He wasn't

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expecting it to be anything big. And they found a

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babysitter that night and she said, what if somebody calls,

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Nobody's gonna call. He'll be fine. Well, that was the

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first time his play was on TV, and it was

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so amazingly popular that the phone had one hundred phone

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calls before they got back that night. Wow, it's the

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first television play to ever be replayed. They replayed it

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live and then they made it into a movie. Then

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he had another success with a movie called Requiem for

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a Heavyweight. Another success was Seven Days in May, and

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they realized, hey, this guy's got something going and so

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they give him the opportunity to do a how do

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we say this something of his own because he had

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gotten tired of the TV sensors and the sponsors curbing

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what work he put out there. They were changing his

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writing to make it TV suitable, and so he said,

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I don't want to do that anymore. I want to

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be in charge of my own show. And that's how

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we got The twilight Zone. October second, nineteen fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Amanda, what's your experience with the Twilight Zone?

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Did you watch that as a kid or anything.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't remember seeing it when I was like

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super young, but I think it probably stemmed from Creep Show,

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to be honest, because I remember seeing that when I

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was pretty young, probably too young, right, and then I

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fell in love with the anthology idea, So I think

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that's probably how I stumbled upon Twilight Zone. And as

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a young kid, let's say, maybe I was eight or

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nine maybe when I saw it, don't judge my parents.

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Twilight Zone was way over my head at that age,

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so I don't think I revisited a lot, you know,

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not nearly as much as I did Creep Show. It

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wasn't until I got older that I started to understand

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more of the concepts that were actually in Twilight Zone

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and could appreciate it more.

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Speaker 2: What about you, Well, I had watched the TV series

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growing up, Like I remember watching it on like Nicked

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the old old shows on, and so I was excited

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when the movie came out. And I was young too,

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I mean, and would we say it was eighty three,

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I can remember, I mean, it is a PG movie,

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so my my parents let me watch it before PG

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Speaker 1: Hey, PG must be okay for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so some of those things were particularly disturbing,

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especially the prologue scene.

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Speaker 1: Oh the prologue scene actually get a big old jump.

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Speaker 4: When I was a kid and I was raised my

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dad raised me in all kinds of music. I think

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we might have talked about this in past episodes and stuff.

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years old, I was a huge CCR fan.

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Speaker 1: So the prolog right.

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Speaker 2: Now with Creep Show, I had the comic book that

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they made from the movie, you know, they they had

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like a comic novel, and I like same place that

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I would go buy my Fangoria magazine. Right right there

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was an episode there was a you know, comic book

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of Creep Show out there, and I was like, Oh,

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this looks cool. I want to get this, and I

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got it. I didn't even know about the movie. Like,

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it kind of went by me and I didn't know

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about it until years later. And then I was like

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probably Blockbuster or one of its, you know, some video store,

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and I'm like, oh, hey, I had that comic book.

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I can watch this movie.

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Speaker 1: How about you? What about twelve for you? Yeah. So

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TV station out of Kansas City. On Friday nights, they

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would show like reruns of Get Smart, The Three Stooges,

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the Twilight Zone, and then they'd show like a creature

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feature like Ryder, Frankenstein or whatever. So every Friday night,

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man there I am. I'm taking in Get Smart, Twilight Zone,

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Three Stooges, and whatever monster movie. The one Twilight Zone

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that haunts me to this day, there's a bank robber

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and he gets shot during a bank robbery and when

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he wakes up, like he's like rich and like all

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these beautiful women are throwing themselves at him and like

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everything is like awesome. He's like, man, how did this happen?

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I was a bank robber and here I am and

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everything's going my way. And it turns out like every

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time he takes one pool shot, like every ball goes

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in every pocket, and it's like his punishment is that

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there's no challenge ever in his life ever again, like

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everything is over the top good and it. As a kid,

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I was like, WHOA, Like hell is every time you

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pull the lever at the casino at millions of dollars

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spills out and it just everything goes your way.

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Speaker 3: That sounds terrible.

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing I can remember seeing people like Robert

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Redford in one of them where he's I mean he's

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in his twenties but young. He's just this very handsome

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young man who as you know, as it turns out,

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is it's this little old lady who won't like go out.

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It's very similar to the on creep Show, the E. G.

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Marshall episode of what is It? The the Creeps? It

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creeps on you where She's like she's contained herself in

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this little space and won't go out because she's too

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scared that death is going to get her when she

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goes out. And then this young police officer played by

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Robert Redford gets shot and he's like dying on her doorstep.

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Speaker 1: And she's like, Okay, I'm just gonna bring you in,

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but I gotta bring you in quick, and I have

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to take care of you here.

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Speaker 2: And like she mends him back to health and he

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ultimately is, you know, very thankful, and then he says,

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I'm here for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the Angel of Death. Yeah, I remember that one.

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Speaker 2: I love the way that those Twilight Zones would twist it.

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By the way, I had no ideas how they started

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investigating one of the best movie twists of all time,

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Planet of the Apes. Get to the end of Planet

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of the Apes, you see the Statue of Liberty.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Found out today Rod Serling was co writer on the planet.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, interesting, you know it's Jason. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: You just unlocked a key memory for me though, because

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I was you know, when you asked me that question,

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I was thinking more about Twilight Zone. The movie, not

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necessarily the show, but on Friday nights we used to

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get because I grew up in outside of Chicago, so

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we'd get all the Chicago stations, and then my grandma

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lived in Milwaukee, so you know, it was either we

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were in Chicago or in Milwaukee on Friday night, and

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it was always Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock and Race Barry.

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Speaker 1: Theater ooh nice.

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Speaker 3: And then no, and.

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Speaker 4: Then for that thrief year or whatever, the Nightmare on

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Elm Street series.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 3: It was terrible. I was, but that's more what I

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Speaker 4: Like, it was more like I'd sit through, like, you know,

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Twilight Zone, Ry Bradberry and be like, okay, because again

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over my head at that age, you know.

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Speaker 3: So that's funny, though I totally forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: That's fun. That's fun. So do you mentioned it to

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capitation just a minute ago? Huh? Sadly, that will not

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be the last decapitation that we talked about in the episode,

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but it won't even be the second to last. Ouch. Yeah, yeah,

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we're gonna hold that though. Let's talk about that here

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in a little while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, So other fans of the TV show

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The Twilight Zone. Yeah, where some guys named John Landis,

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George Miller, Joe Dante, and Steven Spielberg.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: And so after the show had been off the air,

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sixty five, so it had been off the air for

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almost twenty years, and they said, let's make a movie.

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the four three of them are from are their remakes

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of actual Twilight Zone, original Twilight Zone episodes, and some

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of the actors from those original episodes are in the

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new episodes in the movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you know why they did that.

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Speaker 4: Why they did three out of the four of them

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remakes of the original show. It was to make it

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more marketable, to bring in that old audience and then

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bring in the new audience as well, but put different

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spins on them, you know. I mean, some of them

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don't obviously follow the original show what happened and in

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there or whatever, but they thought, hey, we'll get that

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nostalgia for those people who grew up with this show

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and just make it more marketable. And I'm glad they

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didn't keep him exactly the same because if I wanted

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to see that, I would just go watch the episode.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Why am I going to watch John Lithgow when I

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can watch the.

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Speaker 3: Shat Because he's the Trinity Killer. That's why you watched.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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going to go was one hundred years ago with the

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birth of Rod Serling. But it turns out I'm going

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to go back one hundred and thirty years ago, almost

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exactly again. It's September twenty first, eighteen ninety four. This

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guy named Max Gaines is born. When he's in his

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late thirties, he pioneers a new type of book. He

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was trying to do some marketing for Procter and Gamble

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for a newspaper he's working for, and he was like, Hey,

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what we're going to do is we're going to take

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all of the little comic.

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Speaker 1: Strips from the from the newspapers.

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Speaker 2: We're going to put them all in like this big book,

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like this tabloid sized book, and then people will send

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in your you know, Procter and Gamble proof of purchase

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and they get free book. And Proctor and Gamble was like,

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that sounds like a terrible idea, We're not interested, and

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so he was like, hey, newspaper publisher, can we do

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this thing anyway? And they did it anyway, and what

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it was was the precursor to the comic book. This guy,

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Max Gaines is the guy who basically invents the comic

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book all right.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: He becomes later on after that the co publisher of

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All American Publications who introduced us to some folks. You

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might have heard of Green Lantern, Hawkman, and Wonder Woman. Wow,

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the first superheroes. Obviously, All American Publications became DC. But

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later on he would die, and I'll go into that

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in just a second. So he ends up selling his

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share of All American and starts his own comic book

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line called Educational Comics EC okay, okay, interesting and so

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educational comics he's putting out like the Bible in comic

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book form, and he's he's putting out these other educational

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type of comics in addition to some of the superhero stuff.

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But then he dies tragically. His son takes over and

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his son is like, heck with his educational thing, I'm

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going to change it to entertainment comics.

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Speaker 1: Now it may sound.

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Speaker 2: Like that the son is a bit of an air

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dwell and the father was kind of had his dreams

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annihilated after his death. But as it turns out, Max

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Gaines was kind of the Bing Crosby of the comic

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book world, where everybody was like, oh hey, here's this

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great guy who invented comic books, except he would beat

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his son with a belt and tell him you will

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never amount to anything. And so when he and a

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few friends died in a boating accident, suddenly Billy, little

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young Billy, who's in his twenties at that point.

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Speaker 1: Call me Billy. Everybody else Billy Gaines.

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Speaker 2: And if you know who William Gaines is, if you're

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a comic book fan, you're gonna be like, whoa. And

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if not, I'm about to tell you because it turns

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out that Max was a bastard.

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Speaker 1: He was a bastard.

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Speaker 2: And Bill was excited to take the comic book empire

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and take it in a new direction, and so he

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changed it from educational comics to entertainment comics, and he

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gave us some titles you might have heard of, Weird Science,

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What Hails from the Crypt, Whoa, and Mad Comic Books,

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which ultimately became Mad magazine.

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Speaker 1: That is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Now, these comic books, they gained some attention because of

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their kind of graphic nature, and he had to go

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testify in front of Congress about these comic books. And

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they're asking, They're like, do you feel like anything is appropriate,

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you know, for you to put in these comic books.

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And he's like, well, anything within good taste. And they're like,

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but you decide what good taste is and he's like, yeah, yet,

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and they say, how about this comic book right here

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where you have a man with an axe with blood

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running down the handle, and in his other hand he

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has what appears to be the head of another human being,

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and it appears that there's a body lying on the floor.

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Would you say that that is in good taste? And

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he's like, oh, yeah, I mean because you can't see

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the neck. If you saw the neck, that probably would

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be in bad taste. Or if you saw the body

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and saw where the head wasn't attached anymore, that might

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be in bad taste. But since those things are out,

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we're all good. So these easy comics, including the Tales

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from the Crypt and the Weird Science and Mad Magazine,

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these comics, these easy comics were the inspiration for Stephen

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King and George Romero to make the movie Creep Show totally.

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Speaker 4: It was born from Salem's Lot too, did you read

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about that? So originally George Romero was shopping his movie

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Martin around different film festivals and whatnot, and the studio

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Warner Brothers saw it and thought, hey, you know, this

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would be a great collaboration with George Romero because you

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got to think he's hot, hot, hot at that point,

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you know, or Stephen King is super hot at that

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time too, and so they thought these two together would

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be really good. Would you guys be interested in doing

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Salem's Lot together? But then Distributed decided to just do

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Salem's Lot as a TV release. So then they started

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shopping around again for another project, and they were looking

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at the stand yes, but the budget for that would

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have been way too big, so again the studio passed

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on that, and so eventually King and Romero just came

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together on their own and hey, we both, like he

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had just explained, love comic books. What if we do

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a movie like that. We can do it cheaper and

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it'll appeal to a mass audience. It's an anthology. Let's

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do this thing. Okay, I got that came from Salem's Lot.

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Speaker 1: It is, it is, And we talked about Salem's Lot

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last year when we did our horror Movies of the seventies.

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That's right. Get this. So George Romero is super famous

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because he created the Knight of the Living Dead movie.

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Get this. So, he does Martin in nineteen seventy seven,

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about a man who thinks he's a vampire. But he

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had been out of film for a couple of years.

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He did a TV movie on OJ Simpson, Juics Is

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on the Loose. Did you get that the Jesus Loose,

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the good old fashioned heroic story of OJ Simpson. Well,

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it was a thing back in nineteen seventy four. Yeah,

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nineteen seventy four in a mirror.

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Speaker 2: Twenty years later he would be driving down the highway

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in a white bronco.

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Speaker 1: He does Donna the Dead in nineteen seventy eight, and

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he does Night Writers in nineteen eighty one. Do you

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know why I bring up Night Writers?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't, because it stars mister Ed Harris, who's going

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to participate in Creep Show as a favor to George

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Romero because of their relationship.

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Speaker 2: Night Writers. Okay, so that Night Writers. You're talking about

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that terrible biker movie, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Michael and Kit.

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought you were talking about. I was like,

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you're talking about You were confusing people here. We're not

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talking about the Hoff Night Riders Night Writers, which if

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I think I saw some of that and it was

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like it was a combination of medieval nights, except they

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were riding on motorcycles, like as you got it.

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Speaker 1: It was a colossal piece of crowd really bad.

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Speaker 3: That sounds terrible, you know.

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Speaker 4: And the guy Tom Savini make up God did all

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the work on Dawn of the Dad, so that's why

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they brought him in for Creep Show. Yeah, and you know,

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fun little cameo in there too does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of the garbage men at the very

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end who picks up the comic book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the garbage man that when I watched it

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for the first time, I'm like, what's this guy's problem.

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He's way over the top for this movie. By the way,

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I've got this little nugget for you. Romero and King

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wanted to do each part of the anthology as like

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a history of the movies. Right, So like the first

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segment was gonna be black and white, and then the

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next one was gonna be like narrow screen, and then

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the third one was gonna be like in three D,

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and I thought, wow, that would be really cool, right,

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very interesting. I would stylistically, I.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna say, I would actually have appreciated some stylistic

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change in this one. Yeah, it came out as full

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comic book to me. Like the colors were bright. Obviously

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they used the comic book transitions they used, they used

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it heavily, but even the lighting and the color grading

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was very it was very comic bookie.

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Speaker 1: It was comic bookie. And even like they had reaction

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shots where the ladies were like, ah, and there's like

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a comic book thing behind them, And that's.

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Speaker 3: The beauty of it. That's what I think is the

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beauty of the movie.

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Speaker 1: Those parts were interesting.

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Speaker 2: When you would have the screams and it was and

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it was really like a cardboard cutout behind them and

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the flashing light.

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Speaker 4: When we talk about segments, I'll talk about my favorite

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cartoony part of that movie just stands out to me

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is the best shot of the movie.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get there, Amanda. Just to kind of go

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with you on your point. I would love to see

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a King Romero collaboration Salem's Lot or the Stand. That

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would be amazing.

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Speaker 4: Well, that new Salem's Lot's coming out on maps, yes,

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maybe a week or two from now.

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Speaker 1: And it looks it looks good, it looks great.

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Speaker 4: Finally, and that's not normally my kind of thing, but

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I was latch of the previou I'm like, oh, I

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might have to watch that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and from.

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Speaker 4: What I understand, it has King's blessing, so not a

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lot of projects too, so it'll be interesting to see interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Okay, Jason.

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Speaker 2: We have got a huge catalog of actors, most of

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whom it was before they were famous, right, or maybe

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after they were famous, before they were famous.

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Speaker 1: Again, you know there's a hodgepodge of people that you

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recognize in Creep Show, right, so one of them in

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the first one. The first segment is called Father's Day

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and that stars today. Yes, do you know what tomorrow is?

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Father's Day? It's October thirty. Yes. The mean anything to you? Now?

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What kind of friend are you? She? It was like

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a national holiday. It's these birthday tomorrow. Where's my cake?

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Where's my cake?

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Speaker 3: You young again. How exciting? Happy early Birthday.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I've been a father for over twenty years now,

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huh have you ever gotten a cake on Father's Day?

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Speaker 2: You actually asked me about getting a cake for this

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particular it's birthday. You're like, do you want a cake?

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And I'm like, no, please, do not give me a cake.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a severed head with candles in Happy Birthday.

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By the way, thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I was like trying to rack my brain, like what

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national holiday is tomorrow? Oh, it's Dee's birth Okay. So

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the first segment of Creep Show is this the tale

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called Father's Day? Okay. Now, in this one you have

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Ed Harris disco dancing.

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Speaker 2: A freaking from Oklahoma Harris Boomer Sooner, Boomer sooner. Although

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he did drop the program because they were like, yeah,

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you're not really that great an actors.

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Speaker 1: I'll see, Yeah, what's story with that? Because you you

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were in the theater program, tell me about that. Yeah,

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I mean it was.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of urban legend around Ed Harris

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in the theater department at the University of Oklahoma, especially

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for people who were rejected when it came time for juries,

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which is how you decided if you're going to get

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to go up be a performance major or not.

473
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,279
Speaker 1: The rumor was that he failed.

474
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,039
Speaker 2: His juries, they weren't going to let him be a

475
00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:23,160
performance major, and he said, I'll tell you what, I'll

476
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,960
just go to New York City and do it on

477
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,920
my own, or maybe Chicago. But I don't know that

478
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,319
any of that's actually true. It's all just the rumor

479
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,200
mill of the OU drama department.

480
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,519
Speaker 1: Wow.

481
00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:35,079
Speaker 2: But I do know that he did not finish college

482
00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:37,279
at OU, and he did go on to be obviously

483
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,599
a very famous actor.

484
00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:39,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yes he did.

485
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 4: Okay, So in that first time off for a second, Yeah,

486
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,960
do you want to talk about the casting and the

487
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,400
wrap around for Creep Show?

488
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 3: Though?

489
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,839
Speaker 1: Good point, Amanda. Let's talk about the prologue for Creep Show,

490
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,720
because you start off with a very famous guy. Yeah,

491
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,079
a very famous kid. Tell me about that.

492
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 4: We got the god himself, Tom Atkins, whom I often

493
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:02,240
joke with my husband and I'm on the Tom Atkins diet.

494
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: So he is pre stash, you guys.

495
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: I still every time I watch the movie cannot get

496
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,720
over him without a mustache.

497
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: Totally cracks me.

498
00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,759
Speaker 4: Up what a mean so o b he is in

499
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,240
that prologue, he is just an absolutely awful person. And

500
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,000
I couldn't help think but when you were talking about

501
00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,160
the ec comics thing, when you call him a bastard

502
00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:21,359
like dude, like there might have been a little.

503
00:22:21,079 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 3: Insto right there, exactly, thank you, right.

504
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 4: And Tom Atkins character right there. But then the little

505
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,799
boy is played by Stephen King's own son, Joe Hill, that's.

506
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: Right, who looks just like him, the world famous author himself,

507
00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:37,240
right right, And yeah, Stephen King's son, if.

508
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, he does a lot of work on

509
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,519
that creep show show itself that's on Shutter. I think

510
00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:44,519
he's heavily involved with that, so he kind of took

511
00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:48,279
over and he that's not that's the pseudonym he writes under.

512
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,920
I can't remember his actual first name. But he's written

513
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,720
books and stuff too, so he's pretty entrenched in the

514
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,200
entertainment industry himself.

515
00:22:55,319 --> 00:22:55,839
Speaker 3: But I think he.

516
00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: Went started going by Joe Hill just so he wouldn't

517
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,039
be accused of neapotism, thank you, thank you. But when

518
00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,480
he actually slaps him in that scene too, it was

519
00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:07,839
the makeup and stuff and his dad took him to

520
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,519
the store and the lady, the chucout lady at the

521
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,440
store actually called the cops. That's thought that he was

522
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,920
abusing his son. The planet was makeup work and stuff.

523
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,640
So yeah, good work on the part of the makeup

524
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,279
department on the movie for making it look that realistic.

525
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. By the way, Tom Adkins thrilled me right

526
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,119
night of the Creeps Halloween the season of the Witch

527
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,160
Leath the weapons shot through carton of mill That's right,

528
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,920
Michael huntseicker.

529
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,279
Speaker 3: Only movie he's not playing a stud.

530
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: So yes, prologs great. Before I watched the movie, I

531
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,319
was like, I know, with Twilight Zone, we've got a

532
00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:45,759
we've got a prologue that'll get to you know, a

533
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:46,720
button at the end.

534
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:48,759
Speaker 1: And Jason was like, yeah, we've got it on Creep

535
00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:49,200
Show too.

536
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: So the kids reading the comic book and then of

537
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:58,000
course like this death zombie looking thing I noticed. I'm like, man,

538
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,160
I'm seeing an episode by episode as we're going through,

539
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,720
and George Romero is directing all of these, and every

540
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,160
single one of them has some undead being in it it.

541
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:09,480
Eventually he stops doing that. There there's no undead in

542
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,559
some of them. But but you get that undead guy

543
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:15,880
and then you get this cool transition into the cartoon

544
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,799
cartoon slash comic, and that's when you get the introductory credits.

545
00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: And then we move into Father's Day.

546
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,279
Speaker 4: Right because we get the crypt Keeper. What is that

547
00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:25,440
called the crypt Keeper. It's called the crypt Keeper entails

548
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,880
for the crypt but the skeleton. And it's funny because

549
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,680
I was actually constructed from a real skeleton, a real

550
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:32,759
human skeleton, but they dressed up and stuff because it

551
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:33,880
was cheaper than buying a prop.

552
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: So it was shipped from India.

553
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: Wowow they what? Well? Wow? All right, Okay, that's stunning

554
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,480
right there. Okay, so also in Father's Day, I want

555
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:48,200
to point out Vivica lin Force. She plays Aunt Meadilia.

556
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,839
I believe she is a famous like classical actress. H

557
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,799
She started a movie in nineteen forty nine, Night unto Night.

558
00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: No.

559
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: Why that's interesting because her star was mister Ronald Reagan,

560
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:03,440
oh the actor.

561
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Vice President Jerry Lewis.

562
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,839
Speaker 3: I gotta look up a picture of this now.

563
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:13,559
Speaker 1: And she was very pretty and even though she's super

564
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,759
kind of old and haggard in Creep Show, but very beautiful.

565
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,279
Speaker 3: And she she was a drunk, so let's give her

566
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:19,960
a little credit.

567
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:22,839
Speaker 1: I wanted to point out this other lady who's in it,

568
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,680
Elizabeth Reagan. She's Ed Harris's dancing partner, his wife, his wife.

569
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:30,200
I guess, yeah, this is basically the only thing she

570
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,720
ever does. Like, there's almost nothing else that she does, Okay,

571
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,119
like somebody buried her in sand, we never see her again.

572
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: I actually took note this time when I was watching

573
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,640
it to prepare. I don't think she's that bad of

574
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,000
an actress. Like when she's begging her brother to go

575
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,839
out and with her husband, it looks very genuine. So

576
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,440
that's the only thing she ever did that's interesting.

577
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about this segment of Father's Day? Richard,

578
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,400
I'm scared and it's dark out there. Look, I just

579
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,799
want to get another bottle of the line.

580
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: Okay, please, Richard.

581
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: All right, come on, come on.

582
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,319
Speaker 3: I love it.

583
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,759
Speaker 4: I love it, And in doing research, it seems almost

584
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:16,559
like I might be a little bit the minority on

585
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,960
that one, but I love it.

586
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: I just think it's great.

587
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: I think that the creature effects are fascinating, how dumb

588
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,279
ed Harris is dancing, how he's just laying there with

589
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,680
a headstone coming down. He doesn't even try to move

590
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,839
the head on a planter. I just think the whole

591
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:35,759
thing's great. I love the makeup effects, the creature designed.

592
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:37,920
I love the whole thing. I think it's just a

593
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,240
really interesting story too.

594
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: So do you love the camp like on campy movies?

595
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,240
Do you love the camp.

596
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,599
Speaker 3: It's done correctly?

597
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? To me always, I'm in the majority here.

598
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:52,079
Speaker 2: I'm just like, this is this is ridiculous.

599
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,519
Speaker 1: This, the whole thing is ridiculous. But I will say this.

600
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: I will say when the hand comes up out of

601
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,279
the ground, that was a good jump scare for me.

602
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:01,079
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, it's a nice one, good one,

603
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:02,920
all right. Yeah, But it was the.

604
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: Jack Daniels said it that brought him back, right.

605
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, No, I just I don't I don't get it.

606
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:11,359
I don't know what the point of the story is.

607
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,079
Is like she killed him and he killed her back

608
00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:14,359
and then killed the kids too.

609
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,079
Speaker 1: The fact that Ed Harris lays on his back while

610
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,559
that that stone is moving, moving, moving, because he's got

611
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:21,200
no choice.

612
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: He gets up and faces the demon from how or

613
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,440
he gets he hopes that the thing doesn't fall.

614
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,319
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, yeah, no, I was.

615
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,759
Speaker 2: I was in the same book roll over.

616
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: You just roll over three.

617
00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: The mindset though that these are based on comic books

618
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,480
like in comic books are ridiculous.

619
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: Father, I got my copy Father's.

620
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,279
Speaker 4: If they had tried to make this all serious, it

621
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:00,680
wouldn't be a come book movie.

622
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,799
Speaker 3: Then why call it creepshow?

623
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,759
Speaker 4: Why say it's based on comic books like it's it's

624
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:06,079
a different kind of movie.

625
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: Listen, I just want to I want to be completely

626
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,240
transparent here. I had to hurry to get this movie done,

627
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,200
so I watched it on my phone at one and

628
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,680
a half speed, like I'm watching to get sped up,

629
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,480
and even sped up, I'm still going Edie Harris, what

630
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,440
are you doing?

631
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 1: You have all of the time in the world.

632
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: Go is that is funny? That is funny? I agree?

633
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,319
I agree.

634
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: By the way, there's a cool prop in this segment

635
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,799
that is reused later. You know about this?

636
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: Yep, every segment the ashtray that she'd be set in with,

637
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400
it's it appears on every single segment.

638
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: Plus, wow, I didn't astray that she kills him with

639
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,599
pretty cool huh. Yeah, that's great. I like that. Okay,

640
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,519
we done with that one. Yeah, let's talk about the

641
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:54,640
Lonesome Death of Jordy Viral. Sorrying, mister Stephen King himself,

642
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:04,839
Jordy Beryl, your buckhead. I found that interesting as a kid.

643
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,039
I was like, oh my gosh, that is Stephen King,

644
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,039
the guy who has written all these unbelievable stories, and

645
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:13,720
what a fantastic actor he is too.

646
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: You're being facetious right now. I can tell.

647
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:20,559
Speaker 1: From Janet over there.

648
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: Let me tell you about his face right now. He

649
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:24,799
is not serious.

650
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,559
Speaker 1: Okay.

651
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,759
Speaker 2: So the name of this one is the is the

652
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:33,359
Lonesome Death of Jordie Beryl. There is a Bob Dylan

653
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,160
song called the Lonesome Death of Hattie Carol.

654
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: Interesting.

655
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: I think it has to be taken from that, right,

656
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Just fyi, Pattie Carol, Bob Dylan wrote a song about her.

657
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:47,880
She was a lady who was killed in nineteen sixty three,

658
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,839
African American lady who was killed by the rich son

659
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,400
of a tobacco farmer. And he got six months in

660
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:59,359
jail and was released. It was it was at the

661
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,759
time of gregation. It was at the time of he

662
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,559
wasn't even tried by a jury. It was a three

663
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,920
judge panel. And they gave him six months for assault

664
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,920
and that was it. Bob Dylan writes a song called

665
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,119
The Lonesome Death of Patti Carroll, and then Stephen King

666
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,759
writes a story in the seventies.

667
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,079
Speaker 1: So this appeared in Gallery magazine, which is about ten

668
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,880
notches down from Playboy.

669
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:27,359
Speaker 2: You know, so it makes Hustler look like Time, that's right.

670
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was the way that we get Stephen

671
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:32,559
King movies into the world.

672
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: Hey, he was a beginning writer doing his best to

673
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:38,039
feed his family. Whoever's willing to pay money for your story,

674
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,200
take the money and run.

675
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: But I do think it's interesting. So George Romero talks

676
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,400
Stephen King into play in this part. Stephen King's like, dude,

677
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000
I'm writing the story. I'm busy, I'm working on Christine.

678
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,240
I'm trying to finish Christine. And He's like, no, you

679
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:51,839
got to play this part. And so when he brought

680
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,480
him in to play it, he said, I want you

681
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,359
to play it just like Wiley Coyote.

682
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:57,519
Speaker 4: Yep, I have the exam well, because I think it's

683
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:00,279
so interesting, he said. I don't think Steve to they

684
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,240
has forgiven me because my only direction to him was

685
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,200
play it like the Roadrunner and the Warner Brothers cartoons.

686
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,319
Just go way out into left field with it and

687
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
exaggerate as much as you want to, he recalled, And

688
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,079
of course critics came back and said, well, this is

689
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:17,079
not a very subtle performance, and it's not supposed to be.

690
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,279
I mean, it's supposed to be a cartoon. It is

691
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:23,279
basically a cartoon. So again, d it is a cartoon,

692
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,599
it is a comic. It is you know, it's meant

693
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,319
to be that way.

694
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, And I would argue, I'm going to push

695
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,759
back on this just a little bit. If this is

696
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:35,440
played serious, like a meteor from outer space comes and

697
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,359
you get an infection on your body where plants are

698
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,559
taking over your body and you cannot get wet or

699
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,759
else and you're covered with this itch. It's this great

700
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,200
rub of I have to shower, I can't shower. I

701
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,920
think it's super tense. It could be super scary, and

702
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,640
it's it's still scary, but it's it's it's really goofy.

703
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: I don't think it's scary at all. I don't think

704
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,880
that was even the intention. Don't you think though, you know,

705
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,960
I think like if you think back to like you know,

706
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:09,559
fifties and sixties B movies, you know, the infestation of

707
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,720
the giant ants and the radioactive whatever. Like I think

708
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,039
that's more what it was meant to be, where it's like, okay,

709
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:19,240
imagine this worst case scenario, but the people are going

710
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,759
to make the worst decisions they possibly can make, you know,

711
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,319
And that's why they made him a dumb character. To

712
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,880
your point, if they had played it more serious, made

713
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,440
him a smarter guy or whatever. Are you really scared

714
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,400
that plants are going to take over the world? I

715
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,920
mean really scary? We all saw the happening.

716
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:35,079
Speaker 3: Like, was that scary?

717
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,519
Speaker 4: No? You know, so, I think they played it with

718
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,079
the right angle. I will say it's my least favorite

719
00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:41,880
segment out of.

720
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:42,279
Speaker 3: All of them.

721
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,839
Speaker 1: Really, wow, I like this one. I mean yeah, I

722
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,319
like it because at the end it really does come

723
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:49,880
to a head and he blows his brain.

724
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: Then you know, no, no, I just can't. I can't

725
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,200
support it. So the first story is this old lady

726
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,640
is coming back for Father's Day, the day that she

727
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,400
killed her father, and her father comes out of the

728
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,680
grave and kills her. That's the end of the story. Yes,

729
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,319
you got this story is a guy's he's a meteor,

730
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,920
he touches it, he gets grass on him, it gets

731
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,599
to grow over his whole body so much that he

732
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,200
decides to blow his brains out. He's itchy. That's the

733
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,440
beginning of a story. That's not the whole story. What

734
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,559
there's no there's nothing.

735
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: What's left to the imagination though, because at the end

736
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000
they talk about record level rainfalls, and you know, so

737
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,160
it's like, how many meters actually fell?

738
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:26,599
Speaker 3: You know?

739
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,599
Speaker 4: Did it happen all over the town, did it happen

740
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640
all over the country, all over the world?

741
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,519
Speaker 3: Whatever? Is this the end of the world as we

742
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:32,920
know it?

743
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's even I think that it lays

744
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,359
it out for us that the weeds are taking over.

745
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,960
We're one hundred and eighty eight miles from Boston and

746
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,960
there's a big rain coming, and so it is the

747
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,480
end of the world, which I thought was a really

748
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:48,039
cool transition.

749
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: Five miles from Castle rack Cartiff Kingsavanian.

750
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: There you go. Apparently it didn't because we have Kujo

751
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:55,480
next year. So there you go.

752
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: Okay, what's next on our creep show timeline?

753
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: All right? The very next one is called something to

754
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,039
Tide You Over? This star is a pre Cheers head

755
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:11,480
dancing and a pre police squad Leslie Nielsen, Richard, get

756
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:15,679
out of here. He's just getting revenge, Harry. We're all

757
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:24,719
the relatives and baked and stuff. Get mamas are pre

758
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,920
naked gun, pre naked gun. And that's basically it. You've

759
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,800
got a girl in there some what, but it's basically

760
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,840
these two guys you square off. This is my favorite one.

761
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,960
This is my absolute fa Yeah.

762
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: The storyline on this is much better. Okay, it's still

763
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,519
not what I would call good, but it is much better.

764
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,679
Do you feel the hate count?

765
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: I don't think we even have to do final judgment.

766
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you this is gonna be more like

767
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,679
Brave Heart and Gladiator. Okay, all right, I'm not. I'm

768
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,239
not just gonna ball out hate it, but it's there

769
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,280
is a little bit more to the story in this one.

770
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,840
You know, they can come back and they do it

771
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,199
to him. But again, I'm just like, I don't know,

772
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,599
I wanted something more. We're going to talk about the

773
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,519
stories in twilet Zone here in the middle, and I

774
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,760
will be able to tell you what was achieved there

775
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,679
that was not achieved here.

776
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: So let's just talk about what happens in this one.

777
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239
So you've got this guy named Richard Vickers who's played

778
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,000
by Leslie Nilson, who's rich, powerful, jealous, and ted Danson

779
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,639
has taken his wife, and so Richard's like, nobody takes

780
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:28,079
anything from me, mister right.

781
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,079
Speaker 2: One of the things that I love about Stephen King

782
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:32,559
is the way that he comes up with character names.

783
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:35,159
The guy's name is Richard Vickers and he's a rich

784
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,800
guy like that, just that's great. I love the He's

785
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,320
so good at naming these characters. In every book that

786
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,280
I've read of his, the characters always have fantastic names.

787
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: So he comes to ted Danson and he plays a

788
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:51,559
little recorded clip and it's Becky who is like, oh

789
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,639
my gosh, she's got me. Come give me. He'll help me.

790
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,960
And he's like, what'd you do to her? I'm gonna

791
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:57,920
I'm gonna kill you. And he's like, oh, kill me.

792
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,360
And you'll never find out where you know. It's the

793
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,320
classic of You've got to come with me to find

794
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,199
out where she is. And they get in the car

795
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,320
and they take Leslie Nielsen's awesome jeep out to the beach.

796
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:10,159
Is awesome.

797
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: It is awesome, right, You can't skip over the fact

798
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440
in this segment though, that when Leslie Nielsen shows up.

799
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,400
It's one of my favorite things about the movies or

800
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,199
about the movie that Ted Danson is in a robe

801
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,719
and Leslie Nielsen gives him time to change into a

802
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,039
multi layered corduroy outfit before they leave. I think it's

803
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:30,400
hilarious thinking about him sitting in the living room like

804
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:31,519
you ready yet.

805
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Ted Danson also threatens him at the very beginning. He's like,

806
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,159
move your foot, buddy, I bench pressed three hundred pounds

807
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:39,880
a month. No you don't.

808
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: That is a lie, right, good stuff.

809
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: May Day Malone does not bench three hundred pounds. So

810
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,280
they drag him out to the beach. Leslie Nilsen pulls

811
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,400
a gun on him, tells him to get in the hole.

812
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,559
There's like a giant hole built in the beach, and

813
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:56,519
so ted Dance is like, no way, I'm not doing it,

814
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:59,239
and he fires a bullet. So that's the question you

815
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,360
have to ask yourself. Would I take the bullet? Would

816
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,559
I take my chances in the hole?

817
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I totally run and straight at the guy.

818
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:06,519
There's no way you don't see what's coming.

819
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: In this scenario, I would take my chances with the

820
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,280
sand I feel like I could wiggle my way out

821
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,679
of sand.

822
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: Ooh, your kids have never buried you in sand. I

823
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,519
might be wrong, but especially what sand that's concrete.

824
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: Down your feet?

825
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,119
Speaker 3: Is concrete?

826
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh sir, yes, but unless you happened to bench three

827
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,480
hundred pounds so ted dance and should have gotten out.

828
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm given the ten foot running start at Leslie Nilson.

829
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,360
I'm betting he can hit you from there with a

830
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,960
with a gun, I know, but I might be able

831
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,559
to take him down after he hits me. I'm not

832
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:39,639
going to incapacitate myself voluntarily a chance. He also lies

833
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:41,719
to him and says, if you'll do this, I just

834
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,159
want to incapacitate you, and I'll tell you where she is.

835
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:46,719
I thought she's you know. He said, I'll let you

836
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,559
see her. I'll let you see. He doesn't lie, he

837
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:52,320
doesn't relies. Yeah, so he does incapacitate him, and he

838
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,239
does show her to him through the wonderful technology of VCR.

839
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:56,800
On the beach.

840
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: There's like a five mile cord that he's got rolling

841
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,519
out of the back.

842
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: Just in case you was like, how do you get

843
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,639
power on the beat?

844
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,599
Speaker 2: You? Well, we rolled it in, sir. We have cables

845
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:10,679
on a spool.

846
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: Right by the way. Ted Danson had just shot the

847
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,920
pilot for this TV show. I don't know if you

848
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,320
ever heard of it. Nope, cheers. Oh was he in that?

849
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,719
How about that? But I love that story.

850
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: Nilsen lifting off the old Fox TV like it's nothing

851
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,800
like it's a TV nowadays.

852
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: That thing had to weigh one hundred and fifty pounds.

853
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:34,079
Speaker 2: Ago it was a two people job to move the

854
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,199
TV around in the living room.

855
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Remember that? Yep?

856
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: Well maybe he bunches benches three hundred pounds too.

857
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: And then well he shows Ted dancing that Becky you know,

858
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,559
was in the hole as well, and the tide was

859
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,199
coming in and she had to fight to keep from drowning.

860
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: Live feed that VCER back there is on record, not play.

861
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: And then and then he asked him, you know, how

862
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,360
long can you hold your breath? That to me is

863
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,039
super tense. I love this story. I think it's great. Yep, yes, yeah,

864
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:00,280
it's better. Yeah better?

865
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: Did you get the hevgbs when they just kept showing

866
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,480
his head though, Like I felt like claustrophobic because I

867
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,639
started thinking about that because I have been buried in

868
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,840
sand at the beach. You know, playfully obviously, and it's

869
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,280
like you can't move. It's like concrete. So it's like

870
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,360
I was, especially if you're vertical like that, and he

871
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,039
had a neil and he was right, you have no leverage.

872
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:21,159
Your arms are down at your side, You're not getting

873
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,280
out of there. Like so I was literally like getting

874
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,880
a little clauster foback just sitting there watching that.

875
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: I will tell you that the effect that they did

876
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,280
where his head is completely under the water and he's

877
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,039
gasping for breath, that was intense. That was a great shot.

878
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,639
That was an intense shot. You're wondering what's going to happen?

879
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:39,840
How is he going to get out of this?

880
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: And then it.

881
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: Cuts away to Leslie Nielsen watching it on his you know,

882
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,800
on his cameras at the house comes back and Leslie

883
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,079
Nielson is like, well, he must have washed away with

884
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:51,719
the tide because he can't find the body.

885
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: When I had mentioned earlier about the best shot in

886
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960
the movie, Yeah, that's my favorite shot.

887
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,159
Speaker 3: When it's back lit comic book style.

888
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,559
Speaker 4: Okay, but it's backlit in his hair and the way

889
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,320
the bubbles are going up the way they're supposed to whatever, Like,

890
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,679
how did they do that.

891
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

892
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: I just talked about it.

893
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: Actually, he said that they had an aquarium, put him

894
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,199
in a wet suit and like somebody would hand him

895
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:15,480
a breather and he'd But how.

896
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,039
Speaker 4: Did they hair like because we're pre cgi were pre Like,

897
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,679
I don't think.

898
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,199
Speaker 1: She was in the water.

899
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: Pretty cool shot, Like, I don't know. I just think

900
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:28,000
it's the coolest shot in the movie.

901
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: That's great. Did you hear the backup plan for the effects,

902
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,920
So they had a guy with the scuba gear thing

903
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,559
and in case they ran into problems, Tom Sevini had

904
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:41,119
a sledgehammer. He's gonna bash the aquarium. Oh good, okay, yeah,

905
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:43,360
sounds like a good safe plan. Let's do this thing.

906
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: Always had a backup job. I always had a backup.

907
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Also, rumor has it that Leslie Nilsen, before they would

908
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,360
start filming, he had a little fart maker and I

909
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,920
can't even say with that cracking up, but right before

910
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,079
they he'd say okay, action, he'd make a little far

911
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,400
He would constantly be cracking up Ted dancing. That's hilarious.

912
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,079
By the way, the end of the scene when Ted

913
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,360
dancing and Becky come back. You know, zombie fide First

914
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,639
of all, they zombie up. They look pruney, overly pruney,

915
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,719
you know, for being in the water for two hours.

916
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,719
And then he shoots them and like soy sauce comes

917
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,559
out of their head. I think they're also moving extremely slow.

918
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,559
And you're gonna tell me that they like dug a

919
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,360
hole and chased him around and grabbed him and put

920
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:29,840
him in there.

921
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,599
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean part of this is that they

922
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,320
they have the magic of being undead because on all

923
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,400
of the cameras when it would show you the camera shot,

924
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:38,320
they weren't in it. You didn't see them in the

925
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:38,800
camera shot.

926
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: That's true.

927
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: They they're like a ghost. This is like a ghost post,

928
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,719
a Tailtale heart kind of thing. Where is Leslie Nielsen

929
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,400
really being attacked by zombies or is it just his

930
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,239
psychological breakdown?

931
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,599
Speaker 1: Interesting? Yeah, I can hold my breath a long time.

932
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,480
Or is Frank Drevin just having a terrible nightmare? Okay,

933
00:41:57,519 --> 00:41:59,679
we on to the next one. Yeah, the next one's

934
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,559
called the Crate. This was actually the longest segment at

935
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:04,880
forty minutes. They said that this was supposed to be

936
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,480
number three, but they pushed it to number four because

937
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:09,880
they didn't want it to drag in the middle.

938
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, in my opinion, it batted cleanup. This is

939
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,880
the best one of them all for me.

940
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. This stars Hal Holbrook, Adrian Barbo, and Fluffy.

941
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:24,159
Fluffy is the name that they gave the creature from

942
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:27,119
the Crate. Okay, all right. I sent you guys a

943
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,079
picture yesterday. You know, there's this creature who lives in

944
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,840
a crate. They got him at the in the Arctic.

945
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,800
I'm like, we've never seen a creature like this, or

946
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,679
have we? And I sent you a picture of the

947
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,079
Bumble from the Rootolph the Red Nose reindeer special Bumbles.

948
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:43,360
That's right, that's right.

949
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. They based it on a Yuie, so they nailed it.

950
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:47,679
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean it was.

951
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,519
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be from an Arctic expedition from

952
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,280
June nineteen, eighteen thirty four, and I looked that up

953
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,519
and I was like, nothing happened on that. Like literally,

954
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:01,159
if you look up the date, the first thing that

955
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:05,039
comes up is the create Wikipedia site. So that's the

956
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:07,920
only event that happened. That's of note is that they

957
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,039
put that on the crate. But what is interesting is

958
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:16,119
right before this movie came out, Adrian Barbeo had the

959
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:20,119
sole female appearance in another movie that we've talked about

960
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,960
that dealt with an Arctic expedition and a monster.

961
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,159
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, I do tell me it was the thing. Yeah,

962
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:30,840
and she played the voice of the computer. That's right,

963
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,840
she was the voice of the computer. She was also

964
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:36,239
married to John Carpenter at the time. I believe she was. Yeah,

965
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:36,880
that's right.

966
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:41,119
Speaker 4: Special effects were done by Rob Mutine, who also designed

967
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:44,239
the skeleton Cryptkeeper at the beginning of Creep Show.

968
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: Oh nice, there you go. Adrian Barboau was also in

969
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,039
this movie called Canniball Run. Oh yeah, yes, starring Burt Rolls,

970
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,280
and we covered that season one we did. You can

971
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,480
go back and listen to that versus Smoking in the Bandit.

972
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,000
You also have Hal Holbrick, though, I want to bring

973
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840
attention to him. We had a great conversation about this.

974
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: He's like, do you have any you have any trivia

975
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,480
on how Holbrook And I was like, well, he's on

976
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:07,400
The Golden Girls and You're like, yeah, you told me that.

977
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,159
I'm like, wait a minute. It was not the Golden Girls,

978
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:11,920
it was the Southern Golden Girls.

979
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: What is that show? And he was like, the Southern

980
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,760
Golden Girls. I'm like, yeah, you know, it's like any women.

981
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,119
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, Southern Golden Girls.

982
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:27,119
Speaker 2: Four smart ass slightly older than normal ladies, giving it

983
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,280
their best. I know it well enough to say that

984
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,480
I watched the show and how Wolbrook was a part

985
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:31,920
of that show.

986
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: The way you just said that, slightly smarter than or

987
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,440
slightly older than normal ladies.

988
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,199
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say normal ladies and TV

989
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,400
shows of the day, older than normal middle aged? They

990
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,719
were middle aged. How about that.

991
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,599
Speaker 4: I'm coming up on a golden age myself here in

992
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,519
the age they were in that show, turned down.

993
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,079
Speaker 1: The barrel of half a century. I know, happy birthday,

994
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,639
here you go. Hal Holbrick in two thousand and eight,

995
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,280
at age eighty two, is the oldest actor ever nominated

996
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,119
for an Academy Award. Okay, little tidbit on hal Holbrook

997
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,360
was married to Dixie Carter, who's in Designing One. Yeah, yeah,

998
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,920
that was his wife. Okay, how about that. Nepotism comes

999
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,800
right back up the.

1000
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,039
Speaker 4: Night the lights out in Georgia favorite taxi Carter line.

1001
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,559
Speaker 1: Okay, so you asked me what hal Holbrook was nominated

1002
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:25,920
for an Academy Award for, Yes, and I was like,

1003
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:27,760
I don't know some movie in two thousand and seven,

1004
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,840
one I probably don't care about or never heard of.

1005
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,760
Not true. Right, it's a movie called Into the Wild,

1006
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,199
and it's amazing. We just talked about this again. We

1007
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,280
talked about Meal Hirst, we talked about a week ago.

1008
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,360
That's right. It's crazy how these things coming up. And

1009
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:43,440
I'm not even kidding.

1010
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,199
Speaker 2: Arlen, who's who's been a listener since we since day one,

1011
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,000
called me to talk about our best of Best Songs

1012
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,559
of nineteen ninety four as I was driving over here today, right,

1013
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,800
and he brought up a Meal Hirsch as well. I

1014
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,400
don't even know why. I don't know how he came up.

1015
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:00,440
But we're talking to Meal Hirsch and I'm like, okay, buddy,

1016
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,079
I gotta let you go. I'm about to go in

1017
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,719
and record on Creep Show versus Twilight Zone.

1018
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,159
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, I love both of those movies.

1019
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:09,159
I love both those movies.

1020
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,199
Speaker 2: He's like, when you go in and say, tell them

1021
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,360
to call you Billy.

1022
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Call me Belly. Everyone else does. By the way, this

1023
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:18,559
is the one movie where Adrian Barbo's boobs could not

1024
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:22,320
pull her out of being a likable person. No, she's

1025
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,599
horrible in this movie.

1026
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,639
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And we've all known somebody like her. Actually,

1027
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,360
her performance in this like as she's reading the letter

1028
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,440
you got to you gotta think you have his voice

1029
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,079
over and her reading this letter and kind of moving

1030
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:36,719
around in the kitchen as she reads the letter, and

1031
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,440
her delight and excitement at the misfortune of others is

1032
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:45,239
so palatable and so well done. She's I feel like

1033
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,760
she's an underrated actress. Maybe her boobs held her back somewhat.

1034
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: And she celebrates them. That's a light with a glass

1035
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,280
of milk.

1036
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Yep. You know. She starred in a movie in nineteen

1037
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,760
eighty two called Swamp Thing, which was very much like

1038
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,599
the Death of Jordi Verral. That's true. Yeah, there you go.

1039
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:04,880
Her boobs were more prominent than that one. That movie

1040
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,559
was rated PG.

1041
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,199
Speaker 2: I know, thank you cause I got to watch it

1042
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:11,960
as it was like Airplane for you exactly like I'm

1043
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,360
watching them, like, oh wow, I get this in a movie.

1044
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,079
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to watch. This is fantastic. It's totally okay, mom,

1045
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:18,920
because it's PG.

1046
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: We you can thank Pultzer guys for PG thirteen. So

1047
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,000
grip a guy's face off.

1048
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:28,599
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go on to the next one. The next

1049
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,360
segment is called They're Creeping up on You. This star

1050
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:38,119
is mister E. G. Marshall. I've got this bug problem.

1051
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,360
Once you get budged, you never get rid of breed.

1052
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:49,239
In the close paces the conuits, very core of building.

1053
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 2: Itself, almost exclusively. This is like a one man show,

1054
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,079
I mean, except for you know, people on the intercom

1055
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:59,440
on the on the telephone, right, And then a one

1056
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,559
brief where he and it's a greatly it is very

1057
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:06,320
well done bit where he's talking to the maintenance man

1058
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,760
on the other side of the door and they're talking

1059
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,440
through a little piece of glass that looks like it

1060
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:15,079
must be a magnifying glass. So as you move perspectives

1061
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:19,559
you see their mouths enlarged to kind of gross graphic

1062
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:23,039
proportions as they're talking. But he does this whole thing

1063
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:25,199
basically by himself.

1064
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: He's awesome in it.

1065
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: It's really good. I mean, this is a I mean,

1066
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,880
this is a guy who's in twelve Angry Men. This

1067
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,639
is the guy who played the president in Superman two.

1068
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:38,119
And the lights aren't twinkling Clark all right. Art from

1069
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:43,440
Christmas Vacation. Thanks Art no, and thanks for noticing.

1070
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: He's a horrible person too, and his delight in other

1071
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,239
people's problems is he's gleeful. Oh it's terrible. You want

1072
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,079
him to die. He's like, so your husband went on

1073
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:54,920
with a bang. Eh, yeah, he.

1074
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: Could be best friends in a character we're going to

1075
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,639
talk about Twilight, soe that's for sure.

1076
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's a horrible and obviously this is based

1077
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,480
on Howard Hughes, who is a germophobe and he's got

1078
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:06,239
all these you know, he starts to see bugs in

1079
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,559
his apartment and he's like, I'm paying thirty two hundred

1080
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:10,400
bucks for the penthouse apartment. This is supposed to be

1081
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,360
germ free, and how can it be germ free if

1082
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,480
it's not even bug free? He's got cockroaches. And I

1083
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,760
remember as a kid on my way out to catch

1084
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000
the school bus, I was watching Good Morning in America

1085
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,320
with my mom and they showed the preview for this

1086
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:24,480
and it was like the weird guy with a big

1087
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,679
mustache on Good Morning in America and he was show

1088
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,159
he showed a clip where cockroaches were taking over and

1089
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,559
it was like gonna kill, you know, killing this guy,

1090
00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:37,519
And I was horrified. As a little kid going to school.

1091
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:41,119
And I mean, this is this is super intense. It's

1092
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:44,000
gross and it's scary and you can feel it coming.

1093
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 4: So apparently they imported all the cockroaches from Trinidad because

1094
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,880
if they would have purchased them in the States, they

1095
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,320
would have been like fifty cents a piece, so it

1096
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,760
was cheaper to bring them in from Trinidad. They brought

1097
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,159
in about eighteen thousand of them and then had a

1098
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,960
trailer on set where they bread the cockroaches because they

1099
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,840
needed so many of them. And there is article after

1100
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,760
article about how you cannot control the coach.

1101
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,119
Speaker 3: Cockroach does not act.

1102
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: They had to.

1103
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 4: Cover the walls and back basilin to keep them from

1104
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,880
climbing the walls. Oh my gosh, they did not recover

1105
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,480
nearly as many as they released on this set.

1106
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: They were all over the place.

1107
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,079
Speaker 4: They would pick up the phone, they'd hear him in

1108
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,639
the handsets and the and.

1109
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:29,119
Speaker 1: I mean I would burn that place to the ground.

1110
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,039
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, but cockroaches nuclear war, you know, I

1111
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:34,800
mean they're going to survive that too. I just the

1112
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,599
whole segment grosses me out so bad.

1113
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: They laugh at your vasolene attempts.

1114
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 3: To cut it, yeah, right, And originally they wanted the set.

1115
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,119
Speaker 4: Romeiro wanted the set to be a fully carpeted apartment,

1116
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,960
but they knew that wasn't going to work for the

1117
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,079
cockroaches either, which I think is a good call because

1118
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:50,719
if he was a germophobe.

1119
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,599
Speaker 3: Germophobes to that degree aren't going to have carpeting.

1120
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1121
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,559
Speaker 2: The the stark white of everything in the apartment, in

1122
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:02,679
the pentast apartment is a great effect, and I think

1123
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,320
that it is accentuated by the fact that they have

1124
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,039
that one old school jukebox just in the middle of it.

1125
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,280
Like it's not like he's really enjoying the music that much,

1126
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,719
but for some reason, having that thing right there makes

1127
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,400
it more real than if he was in a completely sanitary,

1128
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,800
sterile environment.

1129
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,159
Speaker 1: That'd be the one prop I want from this movie

1130
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:28,599
that that jewbox is amazing. It's pretty cool. Full of cockroaches. Now,

1131
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,800
by the way, so the end scene where he of

1132
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,519
course is consumed by the cockroaches, there's this incredible effect

1133
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:40,519
where like his neck opens up and all these cockroaches

1134
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:43,039
come pouring out, And I wondered, like, how did they

1135
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:46,320
get that effect? Well, I guess Tom Savini had like

1136
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,360
this giant fat syringe full of cockroaches and he just

1137
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,960
pushed the little plunger and they just almost out of

1138
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:53,639
the guy's neck.

1139
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:56,519
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and the as the scene went on,

1140
00:51:56,599 --> 00:51:59,000
it became very obvious that he had a dummy. It

1141
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:02,679
was no longer right there, right as that scene began,

1142
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,400
and he was actually dying. There's a moment where like

1143
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,400
his forehead swells up and it's still him, Like it's

1144
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,039
still it's still his head, it's the actor's head. And

1145
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:18,119
I see it swell up as though the cockroach is

1146
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:20,360
moving under his skin. And I'm like, that's the best

1147
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,280
effect in this whole dang movie. That was incredible.

1148
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't know practice effects, amen, sister.

1149
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: I miss those days, man, because CGI gets outdated tomorrow.

1150
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,440
None of these effects look out data to me looks like.

1151
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,119
Speaker 1: The video for black Hole Sun. That's right, okay. And

1152
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:41,239
then we get the epilogue afterwards, right, this is when

1153
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,519
little Joe Hill has got a voodoo doll that he's

1154
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:45,599
sticking it to his dad.

1155
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: Finally, well, the I you, they totally bait you with that, right.

1156
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,119
They give the foreshadowing because the garbage men who find

1157
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:54,519
the comic book. They're like, oh, you can, you know,

1158
00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:56,920
do this Joe Atlas thing, or you can do this.

1159
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,320
You can get these extra glasses. Now those don't actually work.

1160
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,639
Oh you can order do all. It looks like somebody

1161
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,440
or already ordered the voodoo. That was cool, right, wink

1162
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:08,079
nudge yep. And once again those garbage men. One of

1163
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:11,199
those guys is Tom Savini, the makeup effects guy for

1164
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:11,920
Creep Show.

1165
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: And then I love it that.

1166
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: He has little cameos in a lot of movies he

1167
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:17,119
does because you know, he was in Dawn of the

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Dada as well as one of the bikers and stuff.

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I just love having that little rough edge that he has.

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So a pleasant surprise because I forgot about him being

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a garbage until I saw it again.

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Speaker 1: Sound nice nice? Okay, So that pretty much wraps up

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Creep Show. I do have a couple of little nuggets

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I want to drop on you. They originally were going

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to release this for Halloween. They didn't release it until

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like November tenth, eleventh, something like that in nineteen eighty

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two because they were scared off because Halloween three season

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of The Witch was coming out.

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Speaker 2: For our listening audience, our guest host today, Amanda Janek

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is wearing a Halloween two T shirt right now.

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Speaker 1: My favorite one, Halloween three is the one with that

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crazy song that still haunts my dreams. But they were

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scared off because they thought that was going to be

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the big hit, right, and it turned out people didn't

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really like not having Michael Myers in a Halloween movie.

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Speaker 2: It turns out right the'son the Witch can go suck

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an eggsurgence.

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Speaker 3: Don't kid yourself.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, Season of the Witch, I don't.

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Did we mention the fact that Tom Adkins is in. Yeah,

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tom Adkins big player in season the Witch. But they

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moved it back to November twelfth, which is typically holiday kids,

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you know, Snoopy and Thanksgiving and all that stuff, And

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so you have kind of a creepy, scary movie in

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mid November. Also, I thought this was cool for good luck.

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Throughout the filming of Creep Show, Stephen King kept a

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Star Wars action figure of Greedo in his pocket.

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Speaker 2: That's a weird character to choose.

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Speaker 1: It is weird. That is strange. It is weird.

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Speaker 2: Unshot first, but first, so I'm listening to what you're saying.

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I'm like, these sound like terrible ideas. This was the

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highest grossing Warner Brothers horror movie of the year and

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second weekend it first Blood out.

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Speaker 1: Of the top spot. Wow. That is no small achievements. Okay,

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so that's gonna do it For this first episode of

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Creepshow versus Twilight Zone, Amanda, thank you for coming on.

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You're coming back next week to do part two with us?

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Speaker 3: You bet?

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Speaker 1: I can't wait, all right? Awesome? Okay, thanks guys, we'll

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see you next week.