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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's Nick coffee, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it is Coffee and Company hour number three here

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<v Speaker 2>on a Monday afternoon. Game week is upon US college

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<v Speaker 2>football season. It's been. I mean, we're a weekend week zero.

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<v Speaker 2>It came and went. I was entertained. I want some

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<v Speaker 2>money too, by the way, which I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>assume it'll be my last weekend where I walk away up.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I shouldn't be so dismissive of myself as

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<v Speaker 2>a sports gambler because I've had good weekends before I

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<v Speaker 2>had bad ones. Like a lot of people, I'd say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm average when it comes to wagering. I'll put it

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<v Speaker 2>this way, very average, maybe below average really when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to college football, did I say that like I

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<v Speaker 2>was Donald Trump? Very average? I had that very weird

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<v Speaker 2>tone there, but very average, pretty good actually. But when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to college basketball, I'm not great, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>It's what I bet best at, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm better than average when it comes to that. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I try not to ever feel like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm doing here.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is the year you take a step up

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<v Speaker 3>for college football betting. You think, so it is all right?

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<v Speaker 3>I love to a bad start. As we talked about earlier, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Made some bets or you are but you aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>I made some unofficial bets on my morning show and

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<v Speaker 3>touched in NIA Sports on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Picks not bets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we call them picks because what I ended up

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<v Speaker 3>doing is I told the listeners that if this is

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<v Speaker 3>what I was going to bet this week, I decided

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<v Speaker 3>to abstain financially from the actual betting portion of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I made four different bets, picks, I should say, just

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<v Speaker 3>like you mentioned, for each game, every single one of

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<v Speaker 3>them hit, but no money was won because I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>put any stake in And.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you want did you keep up with him at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely you had. That had to be a terrible birthday

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<v Speaker 2>for you. It was.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I should have leaned on the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that it was my birthday, and maybe you know that

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<v Speaker 3>was the sign that I should have a birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to your money from one exactly should have, should have?

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<v Speaker 2>It gets trusted the gut. There's a lot of just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's all fun, it's entertaining, it's exciting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you had a four hour window where you're

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<v Speaker 2>chasing a parlay or chasing a specific bet and it's

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a bad beat, like that sucks. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the bad things about betting when that happens. But

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<v Speaker 2>you had four hours where it was it was electrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>It was exciting because you were chasing it. You're in

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the mix, and that that to me, is

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<v Speaker 2>what makes it entertaining. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>if I can put a little money in my pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just an added bonus because the little money that

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<v Speaker 2>I do wager, for the most part, is worth the

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment that I get from it, even when I lose.

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<v Speaker 2>But you need wins here and there to make it

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<v Speaker 2>all worth it. If you only lose, then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>could see what people were being, like, what am I

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<v Speaker 2>doing here? Was wasting money? Because when you when you

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<v Speaker 2>are in such a cold streak, you really are lifeless

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<v Speaker 2>watching like, well, I mean, of course this is what's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. The most unpredictable thing will happen because all

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<v Speaker 2>I do is lose. But you shouldn't have less confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in yourself after that, right, you should. You should just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, man, you know what, you should be feeling

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<v Speaker 2>better about yourself more so than ever saying hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting pretty good at this. I'm not. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna win them all, but I should. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I should put something on every pick I make, even

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a small amount of money, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what makes it fun. So for those who missed it,

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<v Speaker 2>John and I, as far as picks and bets, we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We're undefeated in week zero. Because John didn't make bets,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm officially undefeated. Yeah, because he didn't. He didn't. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make any bets, but he made picks and they

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<v Speaker 2>all came through. I went, I went, Uh, I went undefeated.

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<v Speaker 2>Now four different wagers. Well put it this way. I

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<v Speaker 2>was two and zero on straight bets. In fact, three

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<v Speaker 2>and oh on straight bets. I took Georgia Tech to

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<v Speaker 2>cover as a dog. They won outright. I took Nevada

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<v Speaker 2>to cover as a dog. They should have won outright,

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<v Speaker 2>ended up only losing by like maybe five or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So I parlayed those. That's one bet, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I had the two individual bets, so that's three.

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<v Speaker 2>And then once New Mexico got off to a lead.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet on them to cover as dogs. They were

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<v Speaker 2>still getting six and a half after winning in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half, and I just felt like, aren't we seeing

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<v Speaker 2>that despite New Mexico being a really, really bad FBS team,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still probably more talented deeper than Montana State, who's

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<v Speaker 2>in FCS, which is essentially Division two. And yes, Montana

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<v Speaker 2>State did claw back and win at the very end,

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<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't believe New Mexico State was still an

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<v Speaker 2>underdog after controlling the first half. So I took a

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<v Speaker 2>live bet there in that one cashed in. So I

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<v Speaker 2>do feel comfortable in saying this. That's probably the last

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<v Speaker 2>weekend where I will be able to come back after

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<v Speaker 2>a college football Saturday and say I didn't lose a

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<v Speaker 2>single bet. Now, the reason for that is because there

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<v Speaker 2>were only four games to bet on. That's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how that played out. So anyways, week zero in

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<v Speaker 2>the books, we got Week one. Now all the local

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<v Speaker 2>teams will officially get their season started on Saturday, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are big time favorites. Louisville thirty six and a

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<v Speaker 2>half right now is to spread against Austin p Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one and a half favorites against FIU Kentucky. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me see, I just Kentucky is now twenty seven and

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<v Speaker 2>a half. It was twenty eight. It's now twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and a half for Kentucky as they'll take on and

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<v Speaker 2>host Southern Myths. So the weekend slate, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not complaining, trust me. There's a lot of games that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can get excited about a game because of what

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<v Speaker 2>I really like as far as wagering, that has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with like it being a big time game

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch on the line, Like for example, Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>and Minnesota play each other this weekend on Thursday. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited about that game from a wager standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that's not a big game in the grand

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<v Speaker 2>scheme of college football. But then again, if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>non conference game where you got a Big ten team

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<v Speaker 2>playing an ACC team, I mean, that's that's you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>From the ACC's perspective, you really don't want to lose

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<v Speaker 3>this game after what happened this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, which it probably will. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>like Carolnason is supposed to be good this year, so

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<v Speaker 2>they want of favored by a point and a half. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is it at Minnesota? It is? They must

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<v Speaker 2>not be expected to be good either.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know a lot about this Minnesota team this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think they may have had some turnover at quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're rowing.

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<v Speaker 2>The boat still. I do row the boat. It's still

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<v Speaker 2>PJ flex, So you know, it could be a good atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>So as far as the big games this weekend, Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>and Clemson, which, by the way, some real gamesmanship going

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<v Speaker 2>on there as Georgia and Clemson both released both released

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<v Speaker 2>game notes with depth charts that are empty, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that does not include the depth chart. They

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<v Speaker 2>have a depth chart that just doesn't have any names

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<v Speaker 2>on it. On both sides. Penn State West Virginia actually

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<v Speaker 2>happened to think that could be a pretty decent game.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big believer in Penn State this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Neil Brown did bounce back last year. But

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<v Speaker 2>what's the spread in that game? Now? Now eight and

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<v Speaker 2>a half?

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<v Speaker 3>Penn State, man, I'm Tom Allen's de coordinator debut at

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<v Speaker 3>Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Yeah, gim me, gim me give me

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<v Speaker 2>the nears. I mean, Penn State usually Penn State never

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<v Speaker 2>beats teams that like matter, but they usually take care

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<v Speaker 2>of business in a major way against the teams are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to beat. But yeah, we'll come back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll revisit that one because that's what I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to bet on it, and I'm leaning towards the Mountaineers.

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<v Speaker 2>But Miami plays Florida, which that's a I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be honest here, Billy Napier, the guy that everybody expects

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<v Speaker 2>to be the first coach fire this year. Florida has

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<v Speaker 2>a really really challenging schedule. They're not supposed to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami is a preseason ranked team. This is another chance

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<v Speaker 2>for the ACC to not embarrass themselves because a scenario

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<v Speaker 2>where you lose this game, I mean, it's just another

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<v Speaker 2>data point where people can claim the ACC sucks, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I could tell you that it doesn't suck,

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<v Speaker 2>but the ACC keeps giving us results that does, in

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<v Speaker 2>fact make it look like it kind of sucks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a terrible league, but these are games. This game, specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>just this year, this is one you should win and

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<v Speaker 2>it won't mean a whole lot because it'll mean Florida's

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<v Speaker 2>they what we thought they were is not a good

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<v Speaker 2>team that's probably going to be in the last season

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<v Speaker 2>of the billion Napier era. But if you lose, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a point and laugh opportunity. And unfortunately Georgia Tech

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<v Speaker 2>should have been given a little more love going into

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<v Speaker 2>that game. But the majority of the reaction about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in Ireland is about Florida State not being legit

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<v Speaker 2>and meaning that the ACC is not worthy of any

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<v Speaker 2>playoff teams, which we know is not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the case, but still, and I know you can't, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't control the perception one thousand percent, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you take care of business and you beat good teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the non conference, meaning the ACC does that, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a start. It's a start to where people will be

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<v Speaker 2>forced to realize, yeah, when they do beat up on

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<v Speaker 2>each other in league play, it's because the league has

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<v Speaker 2>a variety of good teams. And I'm telling you, the

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<v Speaker 2>best example I could think of is Georgia Tech is

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<v Speaker 2>not looked at as a good team. Now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting more respect as they should, but the overall reaction,

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<v Speaker 2>big picture, is that Florida State is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a legit team this year because they lost that

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<v Speaker 2>game and that was expected, meaning that was probably what

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<v Speaker 2>we should have expected the reaction to be. But my

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<v Speaker 2>point is this, if the SEC had a similar matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say, let's say Kentucky beats ole Miss, who's a

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<v Speaker 2>top ten team. Kentucky would clearly be ian. That'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a damn good win for him, right, But let's say

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<v Speaker 2>they played each other in Week zero and the talk

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, we're talking two top ten teams. Ole

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<v Speaker 2>Miss is a preseason top ten team. People think they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a playoff team this year, So if

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<v Speaker 2>they lost to Kentucky, the reaction wouldn't be point and

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<v Speaker 2>laugh at ole Miss. It would be wow, just another

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<v Speaker 2>tough day, hitt the office when you play in the SEC. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the reasons why people are pointing and

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<v Speaker 2>laughing at Florida State is because of the lawsuits they

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<v Speaker 2>started filing when they got left out of the playoff,

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<v Speaker 2>that is much different than I think the opinion that

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<v Speaker 2>others have of Florida State football. But yeah, I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at other notable games, Notre Dame A and

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. Because Georgia TACK did beat Florida State,

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<v Speaker 2>probably find themselves anywhere between like twenty one and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five in next week's rankings. But again, as we discussed earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of think they're not going to get as

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<v Speaker 2>much as much love with the AP voters because that

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<v Speaker 2>is not as recent. I mean, they played Georgia State

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five more safely if there were votes this week.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't do a week They don't do a

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<v Speaker 2>vote after week zero, and I guess you could understand

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<v Speaker 2>considering that there's very few games. So back to what

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<v Speaker 2>be back to back opportunities for Louisville beaten ranked teams,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, we're getting ahead of ourselves here. Louis

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<v Speaker 2>will get passed. I mean, if they don't get past

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville State and Austin p We've got a much different

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<v Speaker 2>season ahead of us than I think any of us

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<v Speaker 2>would have predicted. But it's just nice knowing that it's here.

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<v Speaker 2>College football is here and I love it. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the questions that was asked, I think on the

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<v Speaker 2>text line last week that we discussed was Hey, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the better scenario for the ACC Florida State losing or

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<v Speaker 2>Florida State winning? And I thought to myself, well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no doubt about it. If in fact Florida State

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<v Speaker 2>was to lose, and I didn't think they would, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be about the ACC sucking, and that's kind of exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where we are. I didn't expect it to happen, but

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<v Speaker 2>it did. And let's be real, SMU did not do

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<v Speaker 2>us any favors in the ACC because they should have

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<v Speaker 2>lost to Nevada, who I believe was picked to finish

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<v Speaker 2>dead last in the Mountain West, and Nevada was the

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<v Speaker 2>better team for the majority of that game. But to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to something I mentioned in the three o'clock hour,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, without us realizing it, the way some of

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<v Speaker 2>these teams were being talked about, in the way these

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<v Speaker 2>games were set up. Not that SMU and Nevada was

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<v Speaker 2>a big time game, but again it was a standalone

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<v Speaker 2>game when there's no other college football on so it

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<v Speaker 2>actually probably did get a lot of viewership on the

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<v Speaker 2>CBS Sports Network. But now that I can reflect on it,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech would have gotten more love if they played

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<v Speaker 2>in a different league, Like if they had the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact season but they were in the Big Twelve, even

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<v Speaker 2>they would have gotten more respect in this game. They

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<v Speaker 2>finished fourth in the ACC last year. I'll admit, hand up,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. I knew they were better last

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<v Speaker 2>year under brin Key. I knew that, but they finished

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<v Speaker 2>fourth in the league. They returned twelve starters, including their

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback and one thousand yard rusher Jamal Haynes, who ran

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<v Speaker 2>all over Florida State on Saturday. They also bring back

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<v Speaker 2>their leading receiver, who was a freshman All American last year.

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<v Speaker 2>On defense, they went out and hired a new coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>because their defense stunk, and there's no way anybody would

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<v Speaker 2>have known, but Tyler Santucci did a great job defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in his first game coaching. He comes from

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<v Speaker 2>the David Elco tree. He was the guy who was

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<v Speaker 2>the DC last year at Duke. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I know nobody ever throws out Duke football as like

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing, but Duke last year led the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>in scoring defense and they were ranked sixteenth in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>only giving up nineteen points a game. He was the

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<v Speaker 2>guy leading that defense, along with Mike Elco. Throwing the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the quarterback Haynes King for Georgia Tech. He's

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<v Speaker 2>one of only four quarterbacks last year to have twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five or more passing touchdowns and ten or more rushing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>The others are Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams, who by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, are starting in the NFL this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Gabriel who has proven to be a really good

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<v Speaker 2>player and he's at Oregon now. So not to say that, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we should have looked at this and expected Georgia Tech

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<v Speaker 2>to win, but nobody gave them any like they were just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the cute team that maybe will keep it

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<v Speaker 2>close for a quarter and that the results were right

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<v Speaker 2>in front of you from a year ago and what

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<v Speaker 2>they brought back, and you never know, right, sometimes things

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<v Speaker 2>don't carry over. But I just think because the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>has viewed the way it is, Florida State probably already

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<v Speaker 2>isn't getting the respect they deserve or wasn't getting the

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<v Speaker 2>respect they deserve. But like nobody considers anybody else in

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<v Speaker 2>this league worth of dam and I hate that and

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<v Speaker 2>I just wish it wasn't the case. And SMU again

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<v Speaker 2>another example as far as like just the perception of

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC. They were this cute see team that people

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<v Speaker 2>thought would really transition well to power for football because

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<v Speaker 2>they won their league a year ago and they won

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<v Speaker 2>eleven games in fact, and because the ACC is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this bomb ass league, everybody said, well, SMU, they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're only in the ACC. They'll probably like

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<v Speaker 2>top five ten because that jumps not that big. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the ACC here like that. That is how

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<v Speaker 2>I think people view it, and I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in a way, I get it. I just wish it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the case. I mean, last year again, they won

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<v Speaker 2>eleven games, winning eleven games is not a down year

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody, but there is context. They won eleven games

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<v Speaker 2>in the American Conference. The year that Houston left, the

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<v Speaker 2>year that Cincinnati left, the year that Central Florida left,

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<v Speaker 2>they won eleven games. All of those teams were non

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<v Speaker 2>Power five teams. They played three Power five teams. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what they did in those three games, They lost

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<v Speaker 2>all of them. They did not compete against Oklahoma, they

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<v Speaker 2>did not compete against TCU lost those games about seventeen points.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they lost to Boston College, who was also

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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC. I kept bringing that up randomly when

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<v Speaker 2>talking about SMU, Like people don't realize. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>bowl games are tough to really know the value or

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<v Speaker 2>lack thereof, because who plays and you know that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. But you lose to Boston College by double

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<v Speaker 2>fur figures in a bowl game, and then you come

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<v Speaker 2>into their league and people rank you way higher than

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<v Speaker 2>Boston College, Like, letn't make any sense. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's two different seasons, but still so Louisville, let's hope

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<v Speaker 2>they can take if if what everybody says about the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC is correct, Let's just hope louisvill can take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And I found myself over the weekend kind

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<v Speaker 2>of for the first time, kind of shifting a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit in regards to sort of how I maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>how I view the league, but I would really hate

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<v Speaker 2>for Louisville to put together a really good season this

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<v Speaker 2>year that on paper and you know, the numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, maybe even the eye test from the objective

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<v Speaker 2>folks like Louisville looks like they could be a team

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe steals a playoff spot because they got a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of wins. They played for the conference championship and

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<v Speaker 2>they lost to I don't know, Clemson or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it would just really suck in the first year

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<v Speaker 2>of the expanded playoff off to get to get, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the short end of the stick because of how people

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<v Speaker 2>view your league. There's nothing you can do about it

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<v Speaker 2>other than go play the games on your schedule and

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<v Speaker 2>win as much as you can. But I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think years of the ACC struggling in non conference

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<v Speaker 2>games has you know, has come back to bite him

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<v Speaker 2>to where now when you have an opener where Georgia Tech,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they are a top twenty five team this year,

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<v Speaker 2>but that wasn't the way people are looking at it

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<v Speaker 2>now because it's the ACC and that just proves that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in that league must stink if Georgia Tech and

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<v Speaker 2>beat Florida State. Although with all that said, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a pity pot mean, I'm not sad for Florida State.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I took great satisfaction in seeing them lose.

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<v Speaker 2>And man, some of those message board screenshots from Tallahassee,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't take that loss. Well, all right, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to let's get to our first break here in the

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock are a lot more to get into. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>let you guys hear what Jeff Brum had to say

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<v Speaker 2>when he was asked about Amari Huggins Bruce. Also some

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<v Speaker 2>things I'm I'm specifically looking for on Saturday, other than

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<v Speaker 2>of course a beat down VIC. And we'll go to

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<v Speaker 2>the text line. I've neglected you guys. On the text line,

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<v Speaker 2>One name we have talked about quite a bit in

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<v Speaker 2>the last week is the name that Jeff Brown can

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<v Speaker 2>still not talk about publicly, and that is a Mariy

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<v Speaker 2>Huggins Bruce. So he's at Louisville meeting at school, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's not on the roster, not with the team, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that changes sometime soon. Jeff was asked as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure he was expected to be asked about a Marii

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<v Speaker 2>Huggins Bruce at his press conference earlier today, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is what he had to say. Is he back on

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<v Speaker 2>the team, what's his role going to be with the team,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe walk us through the process of him coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to Louisville. Well, right now, I probably can just

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<v Speaker 2>talk about people that are on.

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<v Speaker 3>Our roster, so we'll just have to leave it at

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<v Speaker 3>that for this current moment, not.

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<v Speaker 2>As of right now, so he's not on the roster now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to figure out what would make it to

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<v Speaker 2>where they get a thumbs up from the NCAA that

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<v Speaker 2>they're good to add him to the roster and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>him back to the program. I just looked the NAA

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<v Speaker 2>is unpredictable, so I guess nothing should surprise me if

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<v Speaker 2>they decide to just say, okay, yeah, that's fine. He

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<v Speaker 2>never played a game at South Carolina and he was

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<v Speaker 2>already enrolled at school at UFL prior to that, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's fine, We'll we'll grant you a waiver

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<v Speaker 2>in this situation where he doesn't have to enter the portal,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe that's what it is. But again, the portal

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<v Speaker 2>exists so that you can be contacted by schools once

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<v Speaker 2>you get released from the school that you were playing at.

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<v Speaker 2>And he never played a game, but he was enrolled

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<v Speaker 2>at school in South Carolina since last January and was

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<v Speaker 2>going through camp with him until last week. He just

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<v Speaker 2>decided to bail and has now made his way back

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<v Speaker 2>to Louisville. He has enrolled as a student, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's now the waiting game. And that's really

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<v Speaker 2>two different obstacles, right. One is just waiting for the

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<v Speaker 2>NCAA to potentially address your situation, address your question, but

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<v Speaker 2>also you know, getting them to actually sign off on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a different obstacle. So we shall see. I I

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<v Speaker 2>know I don't sound, you know, overly positive about this

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<v Speaker 2>overall thing, but it's if he's able to play, then

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be great, right. You get another receiver, especially knowing

418
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<v Speaker 2>that you have an injury to a guy that was

419
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<v Speaker 2>expected to play a lot of a lot at the

420
00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:35.680
<v Speaker 2>slot this year. And Huggins Bruce, you know, wouldn't shock

421
00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:37.440
<v Speaker 2>me if that he is here and healthy. He is,

422
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<v Speaker 2>you know, still the same kind of guy that you

423
00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:41.119
<v Speaker 2>see him out there. He'll make a play every now

424
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<v Speaker 2>and then, but he's not a guy that you know,

425
00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.759
<v Speaker 2>can really be your lead receiver at that position, meaning

426
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<v Speaker 2>the slot. And maybe, like you realize, the other guys

427
00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:51.599
<v Speaker 2>that are getting an opportunity because Colin Lacy's hurt that

428
00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:53.720
<v Speaker 2>they actually make more sense to get the majority of

429
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<v Speaker 2>the reps. So it's a positive to have him back

430
00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:58.160
<v Speaker 2>if he can play. I just think because of the

431
00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:02.480
<v Speaker 2>unusualness here and because of the worry about life without

432
00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Colin Lacey, I think there's there's been an inflated perception

433
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<v Speaker 2>of what he brings to the table. Meeting of Mary

434
00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Huggins Bruce. Now I say all that knowing maybe you know,

435
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<v Speaker 2>maybe you got better. Maybe his time at South Carolina,

436
00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:16.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, really helped him, and and you know he'll

437
00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.839
<v Speaker 2>come back here and and we'll we'll be looking back

438
00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.559
<v Speaker 2>at this time thinking, man, what a crazy scenario. I'm

439
00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:24.319
<v Speaker 2>so glad that worked out, But you know, we'll see

440
00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:27.079
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like at the receiver spot in place of

441
00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Colin Lacey, you're likely going to see you on Jayden

442
00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Thompson be the starter there. And he's a guy that's

443
00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:34.240
<v Speaker 2>played a lot of football, was at Cincinnati before he

444
00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:37.599
<v Speaker 2>transferred to Louisville, was involved in the offense a little

445
00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:39.400
<v Speaker 2>bit last year. Not a guy you saw a whole lot,

446
00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:41.839
<v Speaker 2>making a whole lot of plays, but you know he's

447
00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:43.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna get an opportunity now. I think Kataras Hicks is

448
00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:46.839
<v Speaker 2>also a guy that that that they like. It's just

449
00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:49.759
<v Speaker 2>it comes down to can you go out there and

450
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<v Speaker 2>be week in and week out a reliable weapon for

451
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.359
<v Speaker 2>this offense? Can you you know, can you create? Can

452
00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:57.319
<v Speaker 2>you get open? Can you make can you make the

453
00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>catches consistently? If you're in a position where shut just

454
00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:01.400
<v Speaker 2>got to throw it up and you've got to go

455
00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:03.960
<v Speaker 2>make a play, can you do that? Now? Sometimes that's

456
00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.319
<v Speaker 2>easier said than done. For example, we've seen Chris Bell

457
00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.799
<v Speaker 2>do that, it just hasn't been consistent. Now it needs

458
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to be consistent. So I think Chris Bell has a

459
00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.799
<v Speaker 2>chance to be your top receiver, and I mean even

460
00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:16.839
<v Speaker 2>ahead of somebody like ja Corey Brooks. That's how talented

461
00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Chris Bell is. But now gonna he's gonna need to

462
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<v Speaker 2>emerge as a guy that is sort of, you know,

463
00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:25.519
<v Speaker 2>the lead guy at receiver. And I think with the

464
00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:28.079
<v Speaker 2>way Jeff calls plays and with the depth that they

465
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<v Speaker 2>believe they have, I'm not saying Chris Bell is gonna

466
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.160
<v Speaker 2>have to come out there and catch more balls than

467
00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:36.160
<v Speaker 2>anybody every single game, but he's shown the flashes to

468
00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:38.759
<v Speaker 2>where now it's time to make it a consistent thing.

469
00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.119
<v Speaker 2>The other guys haven't really shown that because, to be

470
00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:43.920
<v Speaker 2>fair to them, they haven't had the opportunity. And I'd

471
00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:46.680
<v Speaker 2>say that the opportunity wasn't there because there were guys

472
00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:50.400
<v Speaker 2>ahead of them last year, you know, like a you know,

473
00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:52.519
<v Speaker 2>like a Jamari Thrash who's now in the NFL with

474
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the Browns. So I think you'll see a lot of receiver.

475
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think you're gonna see a ton of

476
00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.519
<v Speaker 2>guys get legit rap on Saturday because you're gonna be

477
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:03.759
<v Speaker 2>winning by that much, and that's what you should do

478
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<v Speaker 2>in games like this. All right, five two six, five

479
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<v Speaker 2>three zero seven nineties the number if you guys would

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<v Speaker 2>like to text in on the Ellenn Federal Credit Union

481
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482
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<v Speaker 2>learn more at Open your Account Today at lnfcu dot com.

483
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<v Speaker 2>This text says Nick seeing Jack Plumber ball out for

484
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:26.400
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers, what does that do to you? It doesn't

485
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>do anything to me. I mean, he had a really

486
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:31.079
<v Speaker 2>good game the other night. He's probably gonna be their

487
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>emergency quarterback. They did change the rule in the NFL

488
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>where you can keep an emergency third quarterback, so he'll be.

489
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, right now, they've got obviously the kid Stroud,

490
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<v Speaker 2>not Stroud, but is Bryce Young? Yeah? Bryce Young is

491
00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:46.920
<v Speaker 2>their quarterback in Carolina, and then Andy Dalton is the backup.

492
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<v Speaker 2>And then it sounds like Jack Plumber will be the

493
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<v Speaker 2>third guy, so he'll be practice squad emergency quarterback if

494
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<v Speaker 2>the Panthers decide to do that. But I mean, look,

495
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Jack is like Jack. And I said this a couple

496
00:23:58.359 --> 00:23:59.799
<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago, and I'm sure it sounded really stupid.

497
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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to make it sound a little less supid

498
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.759
<v Speaker 2>this time around. Jack Plumber and Malie Cunningham are a

499
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<v Speaker 2>lot more like than you would think. And what I

500
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:10.559
<v Speaker 2>mean by that is you would see them at times

501
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>showcase an arm that you feel like is a good arm,

502
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<v Speaker 2>maybe an NFL arm. I mean, Malik was really really

503
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<v Speaker 2>accurate with the deep ball at times, and he'd have

504
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>games and drives where he looks all American caliber, and

505
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<v Speaker 2>then he'd have a throw that you think, what the

506
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.640
<v Speaker 2>hell you doing? Were you thinking? Or man, how can

507
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<v Speaker 2>you not make that throw that's a lot easier than

508
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<v Speaker 2>the last five throws you made? Jack was the same way.

509
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<v Speaker 2>It's all about. I think what separates a lot of

510
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, athletes is consistency. But I'd say quarterback, man,

511
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<v Speaker 2>it's even I mean, there are throws you can make

512
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<v Speaker 2>here and there, but what makes you know being able

513
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<v Speaker 2>to stay in the NFL for a number of years,

514
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<v Speaker 2>even in a backup role. It's about doing it consistently.

515
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<v Speaker 2>And I think Jack is such a good dude and

516
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a good locker room guy, good teammate, good leader. Jack

517
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<v Speaker 2>Jack Plumber is a really good guy. By the way.

518
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<v Speaker 2>I won't claim to know him, like you know, we're

519
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<v Speaker 2>talking every now and the phone, but I got to

520
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<v Speaker 2>know him a little bit and he's a really, really

521
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<v Speaker 2>good guy to where I can see that Carolina will

522
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<v Speaker 2>would love to have him in their locker room as

523
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.279
<v Speaker 2>the guy that is in that type of situation as

524
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<v Speaker 2>the third string quarterback that might need to be used

525
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>in an emergency situation, a guy that's practice squad. And

526
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I think he was good enough to do that. With Jackie,

527
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<v Speaker 2>it was just it was just inconsistency and at times,

528
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he let a mistake turn into

529
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:25.599
<v Speaker 2>three because he was trying to double down at times

530
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:28.200
<v Speaker 2>to make up for a bad decision that he'd made prior.

531
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<v Speaker 2>So look, it'd be different if he was going to

532
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<v Speaker 2>be the starter. Like, I don't know people trying to

533
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<v Speaker 2>use Jack plumber success in the NFL preseason as a

534
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 2>sign that, uh oh we thought Jack was the problem.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was brawm Like, I don't I mean, I

536
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>don't think anybody's doing that. But like, what do you mean?

537
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<v Speaker 2>What is Jack Plumber? What does it do to me?

538
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that means? Whoever asked that on

539
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<v Speaker 2>the text line, still trying to figure out what that Like, Oh,

540
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, go go Jack Plumber? Does that mean that

541
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:54.559
<v Speaker 2>what you wanted? I don't know. I mean I feel

542
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<v Speaker 2>like I was way more nice in kind of Plumber

543
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>than most. I defended him at times, you know, all

544
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.799
<v Speaker 2>it took was me saying something not mean about him,

545
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:05.720
<v Speaker 2>and phone lines would light up on the postgame show

546
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<v Speaker 2>for people just wanting to get in for fifteen seconds

547
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<v Speaker 2>to tell me sucked. I gotta say, I do.

548
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<v Speaker 3>Feel like the talk about Jack Plumber's career, at least

549
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 3>his season with Louisville in the offseason has been a

550
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<v Speaker 3>lot more negative than when it was during the season.

551
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<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense. Maybe it's just recentcy. If that's

552
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<v Speaker 2>the case, I would say it's because the guy that

553
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you listen yap about Louisville football was not as mean

554
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 2>as others. It's probably what it is because I mean,

555
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<v Speaker 2>it was uncomfortable to do. But I don't feel like

556
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<v Speaker 2>it was wrong to say that the weakness of the

557
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.880
<v Speaker 2>offense last year was him. Yeah, Now you could counter

558
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 2>that by saying the tight end position there just wasn't

559
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot to work with there. Now it's totally different.

560
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.079
<v Speaker 2>They got packages for four or five different tight ends

561
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<v Speaker 2>at times to where not that they can all have

562
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 2>them on the field at the same time. But I

563
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to play a lot of tight ends

564
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:51.880
<v Speaker 2>this year. And if you know, if Jack had these

565
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:54.440
<v Speaker 2>weapons last year, maybe it would be a little bit different,

566
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>but I mean he made a lot of mistakes in

567
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>crucial times, and you know that's something people remember. I mean,

568
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>he was a big factor in why you lost to

569
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Florida State the way you did, and you could have

570
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.200
<v Speaker 2>won that game. And I hate you could ever blame

571
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>it on one guy, one play, but you could also say, hey,

572
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>that specific play, you know that that guy didn't make

573
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>or really messed up like that, that that was a

574
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 2>huge factor in the overall result of winning and losing.

575
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<v Speaker 2>This Tech says, you think bron will try to keep

576
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>some tricks in the bag in the first few weeks

577
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:31.559
<v Speaker 2>just to just to throw off the Yeah, so maybe,

578
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I Louil hasn't been in this position in

579
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<v Speaker 2>a long time. I mean people last year were saying

580
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna keep some tricks in the bag against Georgia

581
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Tech when Georgia Tech, you know, was housing you halftime.

582
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<v Speaker 2>So I mean they've had close enough games, Like last year,

583
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>they had close enough games against teams that you should

584
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<v Speaker 2>have beat pretty bad or teams you just expected to

585
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 2>be bad and they weren't to where I don't know,

586
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know that that's a really good

587
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<v Speaker 2>That's a good off the record question for Jeff because

588
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<v Speaker 2>he would give you a very expected coaches answer if

589
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you asked him, hey, when you playing, when you're playing

590
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Austin p and Jacksonville State, you're gonna you're not gonna

591
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>really show anybody what you want to do the regular

592
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 2>season right the rest of the season. He would say, well,

593
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, we respect our opponent, we're gonna we're coming out.

594
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm gonna try to win or do whatever

595
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 2>it takes. I mean, he would probably give you a

596
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:20.799
<v Speaker 2>coach's answer, as most coaches would, but off the record

597
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>he might say, oh, yeah, we're not really gonna show

598
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 2>some of the some of the trick plays or some

599
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>of the you know, maybe some maybe there's gonna be

600
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>some some things we throw out there that nobody would

601
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>have expected given the personnel that we have and all that.

602
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>So he'd never give you an answer, but it would

603
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>make total sense that if you get to that Georgia

604
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Tech game, let's say it's a top twenty five matchup,

605
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that maybe you see a wrinkle that wasn't there against

606
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>these weak opponents that you have in your first couple

607
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>of games. Uh. This text says Nick do you think

608
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>it makes more sense to try to embarrass Austin P

609
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.279
<v Speaker 2>and jack State because of the perception for the playoff off?

610
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>And then this text also goes on to mention that

611
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>the acc being you know what it is, You're gonna

612
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 2>need some style points. I've got a probably unpopular opinion

613
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 2>about playing these teams that I'll share with you given

614
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:19.559
<v Speaker 2>that question. So, if a team is coming in and

615
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you are paying them money to be here, which is

616
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<v Speaker 2>a it's a bye game for for Jacksonville State next

617
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 2>week in Austin P this week, just like it was

618
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.279
<v Speaker 2>for Montana State. Montana State got paid three hundred and

619
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>sixty thousand dollars to go to New Mexico and beat them.

620
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<v Speaker 2>If I'm paying you to be here and that bill

621
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<v Speaker 2>or that that check is is really footing the bill

622
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>for your program to exist, bend over and take it.

623
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<v Speaker 2>If you're getting paid to be here, I'm not gonna

624
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 2>embar I'm not gonna try to get anybody hurt. I'm

625
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<v Speaker 2>not going to, you know, try to make an example

626
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<v Speaker 2>out of you. But I'm not worried if I'm up eighty.

627
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<v Speaker 2>If I'm paying you to be here, that's what you're

628
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<v Speaker 2>paid to do, show up, bend over, and take it.

629
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<v Speaker 2>Why are you comfortable, John, I'm not uncomfortable. I'm just

630
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<v Speaker 2>sitting thinking should that be the title of the show today. Yeah,

631
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 2>but it makes sense that it does. It does like.

632
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make me an a hole. It doesn't make

633
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>me you know somebody that you know is picking. I'm

634
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>not a bully. These people are being paid to be here.

635
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think you'll ever look bad by beating

636
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>somebody's brains out in football, Like I mean, in that situation. Now,

637
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a level of gamesmanship like running up the score

638
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 2>and all that. But no, like when when Kentucky and

639
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Louisville play each other, that's not and sorry, let me

640
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 2>back up, that's not a good example because that's a rivalry. Like, oh,

641
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>you will use this game that's on Thursday. It's Minnesota

642
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 2>and North Carolina. Like if if Carolina is getting beat

643
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>by thirty five and you know, Minnesota's running out the

644
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 2>clock and then they run one more pass play and

645
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>they score again, some would say that that's like, you know,

646
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that's doing too much. You were trying to embarrass them

647
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that and I you know, I still think that's kind

648
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 2>of weak. If you don't like it, stop it. But

649
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I do understand it from that standpoint, because that's just

650
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, the game's over at that point. Now you're

651
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>trying to pile on, but nobody's been paid to be there.

652
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a that's two powerful programs. Scheduling a

653
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 2>home at home, Like if I pay you to, if

654
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 2>i'm if I'm giving you a gift, you cannot be

655
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>choosy how I beat you, Like you can't cry victim

656
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>whenever you go to the press conference afterwards because you

657
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 2>got a check in your hand on the way out,

658
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 2>like again, and sometimes you lose those games. You're not

659
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 2>gonna take it easy on us? Why will we take

660
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>it easy on you? I guess I probably could have

661
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 2>worded it a little bit differently than you know, bend

662
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>over and take it, but like take your ass, that's

663
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>what needs to happen. No, No, it's another one of

664
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>those moments and the show where I thought to myself,

665
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>like what if somebody just tuned in right at that

666
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>second and like the butt stuff yeah last week, Oh yeah,

667
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of butt stuff, A lot of butt stuff.

668
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>We have a I'm sure you're not a big Jim

669
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Rome guy. But he had a he had a caller

670
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 2>that has a drop that said something that is it

671
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>is I think still a legendary drop within the Jim

672
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Rome show, and that is Bohica Buddy bend over here

673
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>it comes again. You ever heard that? I have not.

674
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty funny though, you know. So after we put

675
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.759
<v Speaker 2>up fifty in the first half against Austin p Bohica

676
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Buddy bend over here it comes again for another two quarters.

677
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>We had somebody earlier on the text line. I kind

678
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>of just ignored it because I didn't it was it's

679
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable to even think about. But we did talk about it.

680
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Last week. They had a coach on their staff, their

681
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator, their co oed C last week resigned because

682
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>he got caught up in a child sex trafficking thing,

683
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 2>which is, you know, not good, disgusting. So like somebody

684
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>was alluding to the fact that, you know, maybe maybe

685
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that'll keep the staff from taking their foot off the pedal,

686
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>because you know, they employed a predator, which they did

687
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's awful. But anyways, let's get our last break

688
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>out of the way. I gotta remember the five o'clock

689
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 2>hours of my Mom's on her way from work, so

690
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.359
<v Speaker 2>she's probably like, why Nick, why are you saying bend over?

691
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Take it? Come on, grow up. I can't grow up, mom.

692
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 2>That's why I do this. That's what this is. This

693
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>is me, this is your son. I'm not really an adult,

694
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>just kind of kind of getting by as one pretending

695
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<v Speaker 2>to be one. All right, it's coffee and Company. We're

696
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<v Speaker 2>fuel about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

697
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<v Speaker 2>We can get into this a little bit more throughout

698
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the week, but I do see here that Jasper Johnson,

699
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.559
<v Speaker 2>one of the top players in the country, who of

700
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 2>course is considering Kentucky, and it sounds like it's gonna

701
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>be Kentucky and Alabama. But Woodford County native has a

702
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of Kentucky connections. But it's gone back and forth,

703
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 2>according to those who cover his recruitment. Is it gonna

704
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>be Bama or is it gonna be Kentucky and Mark

705
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Pope and he's gonna make his decision looks like next Thursday,

706
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 2>September the fifth, And I mean he's doing it at

707
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Woodford County High School, which I don't know. Maybe I'm

708
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>wrong to just assume that means he's going to Kentucky,

709
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 2>but I mean where else would he do right, like

710
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 2>if he's back here, I mean, he's not going to

711
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>do it at over time elite. I don't mean I

712
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>guess he could. I don't know, but you know that

713
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 2>would be massive. I've talked about it here and there

714
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 2>whenever we've discussed his recruitment. And of course, obviously Malachi

715
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Moreno from Scott County also committed to Kentucky. So for

716
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky to get two local kids that really wouldn't have

717
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 2>been recruited like this if the previous staff was still here.

718
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Jasper Johnson would have, but he probably wouldn't have been

719
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>prioritized quite like the Pope staff has done. And I

720
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>think i'd heard I think it might have been something

721
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 2>mentioned on KSR that Jasper Johnson's first nil offer from

722
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky was you know, like disrespectful almost as far as

723
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.559
<v Speaker 2>how little it was compared to what Carolina and Alabama

724
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and even Louisville was prepared to offer. So, you know,

725
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 2>anytime you can get to top thirty players, I mean

726
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 2>that's good for anybody. Even cow Was you know, would

727
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 2>get those guys. But if they're from Kentucky and they're

728
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, this highly touted as the Kentucky brand is

729
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of shifting back to being more about Kentucky and

730
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>not just about Caliperry. Like, I think that would be

731
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.880
<v Speaker 2>a really good I mean, who knows how you know

732
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.119
<v Speaker 2>how good the teams would be under Mark Prope. Who knows. Again,

733
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:37.679
<v Speaker 2>these guys are still going to play another season of

734
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 2>high school ball before they get to Kentucky. But I

735
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 2>feel like if you would have told Kentucky fans that

736
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the first class Pope puts together from the high school

737
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 2>ranks is going to include these two guys, I mean,

738
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>that would have been best case scenario for them. Now, again,

739
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the portal still matters in a major way, and you know,

740
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>freshmen aren't relied upon quite as much. But Jasper Johnson's

741
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 2>a special player, and I believe I've got a piece

742
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>of use is Trivia. The first coach to ever get

743
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Jasper Johnson on campus for a visit, Scott Saderfield. He

744
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>was a football recruit before he was a basketball recruit.

745
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I think I whan he was like a freshman in

746
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>high school, he was believed to be a guy that

747
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>had a future of playing at the next level in

748
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>football more than basketball, and then you know that changed.

749
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 2>I think he's probably influenced as well to go to

750
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 2>the football route, considering the fact that you know, his

751
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>father was a player at Kentucky. I think his uncle

752
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>might have been. His grandfather was also a player there.

753
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, Jasper Johnson making his decision next week. Somebody

754
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>had asked me earlier why Louisville is still being meant,

755
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a graphic that like shows his final six or

756
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>five and Louisville's in there. But I mean, I've heard

757
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 2>nothing about Louisville being in the mix at all here,

758
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:51.199
<v Speaker 2>which again that doesn't mean I don't see that to

759
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.800
<v Speaker 2>be critical. I just think, you know, it was going

760
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>to come down to three schools, Kentucky, Alabama, North Carolina,

761
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>and now I think it's just to Alabama in Kentucky.

762
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So we shall see. All right, We're back at it tomorrow.

763
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you guys will join us as we continue to

764
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:12.199
<v Speaker 2>get set for the opener Louisville Austin p. I mean,

765
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not a big time game. I said that, and

766
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even fake it that it was like, you know,

767
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 2>big time action. The Governor's coming to town. Come on,

768
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.239
<v Speaker 2>they're coming to town. They're gonna bend over and they're

769
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:23.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna take it. They want that check to be here,

770
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>they better bend over and take it. Sorry, Mom, have

771
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>a good done everybody,