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Speaker 1: Want to welcome everyone back to the Peaking Yona's Show. Look,

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I can barely talk today. Just wait, this is Wednesday.

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On Friday, we're starting the preparation for a whole bunch

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of dental reconstruction I'm having, So wait until let's see

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how I'm talking on Friday night when I when I

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have a scheduled recording on Friday night. But yes, this

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is the Peaking Yona Show, and this is Michael rectan Wald.

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Are you doing Michael, I'm doing well. Thanks, good to

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be here at last. I should say I've been waiting

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for an invitation for you from years, for years. You've

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been on the show before, No, never, yes you have?

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I have, yeah talking about talking about WF.

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Speaker 2: Kidding, Okay, sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: You know, No, I forget. I have people who are

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who I'm interviewing, and I'm like, my friend, not me,

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not you. The other day, a couple of weeks ago,

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I'm like, hey, come on, first time on. He's like

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I was on like three months ago. Yeah, So this

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is your your journey from where I first I guess

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I first heard about you in twenty seventeen, So why

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don't you tell everybody your journey to what's today the

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August twentieth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's it's been a long and winding road,

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shall we say that in twenty sixteen, let me just

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give you a slight recap in twenty sixteen, in the

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fall of twenty sixteen, or in the late summer of

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twenty sixteen, I was still a Marxist. By October I

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had already transitioned to a libertarian and voted for Trump.

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And so yeah, I mean, you know, having gone through

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academia and that I was in a you know, I

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went through a PhD program and in a master's program

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in English, and in the course of that process, you know,

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got turned into a Marxist. You know, I can't really

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explain how it happened, except that there's kind of an

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unspoken requirement amongst in academia, especially in that field English,

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that you're some sort of leftist or other, and Marxism

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seemed to make the most sense to me, because, you know,

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I hailed from a working class background, and I had

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a chip on my shoulder for sure, and h you know,

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a sort of class chip, as it were, and so

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you know, I became sort of like a Marxist theorist.

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And this was just an avocation. It's not like I

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taught Marxism in at NYU, taught courses in whatever, all

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kinds of stuff, mostly nineteenth century British science and culture.

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I started to specialize in secularism as a movement that

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started in the mid nineteenth century, and wrote about that stuff,

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taught about it, and taught cultural history, academic writing, things

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like that. And as an avocation, I was a Marxist

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in writing papers, you know, theoretical papers from Mark, you know,

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on Marxism, and publishing in Marxist journals and things like that.

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And then twenty sixteen happened, and I already saw the

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writing on the wall coming down the pike with the

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kinds of woke or whatever you want to call it

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impendiums that were pending at the university, and they started

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to really get quite egregious.

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Speaker 1: And let me just let me interrupt for a second, Like,

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I mean, I've studied Marx, I've studied Lenin, I've studied

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the Bolsheviks. I've studied what they believe, what they at

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least what they wrote that they believed. Yeah, that has

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nothing to do with what we know is wokism that

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comes later under the Marxist banner, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, the only thing that wokeism really

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adopts from Marxism is what I will call the oppressor

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oppressed diad, and that there's an oppressor class. I don't

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oppressed class in Marxist terms. It's put in economic it's

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in economic terms. In woke culture. It's identity basically various

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identity groups claiming oppressive oppression status or oppressed status as

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against the oppressors. And I hope we get into this

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woke right nonsense too, because I want to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: But oh yeah, we can talk about that. I mean,

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the guy's making himself pretty much irrelevant, but it is

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irrelevant already. But it is a good it's a good

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thing to look at because it's a really good picture

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of somebody who's on the left pretending to be somebody

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who's on the right by attacking the right.

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Speaker 2: James Lindsay, you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not a

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fan of James Lindsay. I should start off by saying

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that he plagiarized my books Bring Time for Snowflakes. That is,

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and then he appropriated it without acknowledgment. I call that plagiarism.

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he hasn't, But I still think if you're writing in

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a particular discourse, you should know what the hell's gone

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on in that discourse before you start writing, and you

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should know what's been said. And I already had coined

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the phrase that postmodernism is practical. I'm sorry that social

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justice is practical postmodernism, and he picked that up and

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went with it. But anyway, James Lindsay and the woke writing, yeah,

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woke the woke figuration is just simply the oppressor oppressed

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diad plus. It's an inversion of the so called, you know,

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supposed social hierarchy, so that the bottom becomes the top

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and the top becomes the bottom. This is the object,

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so that the oppressed effectively assume a position of oppression

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over the others. Although they would never say that, that's

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what it really amounts to. And likewise, you know, they

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use all these tactics, cry bullying and all that in

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order to beat up their opponents and establish their own

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status really as the new high you know, as the

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new dominant group. So that's what these woke people do.

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But yeah, so I started to criticize all this, and

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Speaker 1: At first.

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Speaker 2: I was writing and speaking about this as a Marxist.

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And I did this interview with the New York University

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student newspaper, the name of which escapes me at the President.

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At President I haven't taught there for quite a while now,

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since twenty nineteen. But that interview went viral. It was

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picked up by the New York Post, and the story

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became national news. I was ostracized at NYU very severely

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after the interview I gave to the New York University

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newspaper in which I basically said that they were making

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you know, I said, one of the things I said

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was that they are making the alt right possible. They

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were actually producing the alt right by virtue of their

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own identity politics, that it was going to naturally be

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countered by another identity politics, and that's the identity politics

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of you know, of the alt right, which is you know,

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white male nationalists, et cetera. I said, they were producing

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their opponents, and I said a lot of other things

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in anyway, they were outraged. Immediately, within two days of

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that interview appearing, I was called into the dean's office

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and I was assured that the meeting had nothing to

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do with my interview in the newspaper. But then he

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came up. Then he started off talking about that. Immediately

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they brought the head of human resources into that meeting

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and effectively coerced me into a leave of absence, which

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I took, frankly, anything to get out of New York.

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I welcomed, to be honest, But Wikipedia says that it

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was my idea. But that's absurd because I hadn't. The

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dean called me into the office and began pressuring me

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to take leave of absence, saying that they were concerned

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about my mental well being, my mental health, you had

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to be crazy to criticize this stuff, I suppose, and

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Speaker 1: Let me just ask real quick, because I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: I was in a program that had rank but no tenure,

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actually I was up for full professorship. That was a

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key factor actually, because I thought if I don't take

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the leave, maybe they won't give me the full professorship,

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which I really deserved. But I did get that after

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the leave actually took place, or during that leave, I was.

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I got the full I got the promotion to full professor.

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I was, you know that I needed to make more

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money in New York. It's a very expensive place to live,

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and so they gave me the full professor rank. But

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they had isolated me on campus. They pushed me into

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a different department. I was in a global liberal studies program.

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which I like to say was basically relegating me to

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my own personal goolog because they wouldn't move my books,

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they wouldn't give me secretarial support, they wouldn't even give

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me a phone. It was like bare metal shelves and

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totally treated as a pariah on campus. It was an

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uncomfortable situation. So then you know these professors that came

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after me. It wasn't students, it was professors that came

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after me, and then the administration backed them up. They

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sent all these scathing emails about me towards the end

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of the term, after I came back from leave, at

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the very end of the term actually, and they in

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those series of emails called me the usual epithets, which today,

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if they had called me, I would just I had

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written back l L. But at that time I actually

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was like, oh, I don't want to be called a racist,

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a nazi, a short pants white devil, sexist, misogynists all that.

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I didn't really at that time. I still cared like

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what these kind of people thought, and so that got

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me very upset. I sued the university and these professors

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for defamation and libel. Wikipedia says the case was thrown out,

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but that's not true. I settled. They can't ever get

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things right. I settled with NYU. They gave me a

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cash settlement plus full retirement benefits, so it wasn't like

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I lost. They knew that there was something in my

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case that if it went further, wouldn't have been wouldn't

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have been nice because there was so much discrimination against

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me on the basis of my gender and race. Because

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they treated these assailants with total kid gloves, let them

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go on and on for days and days ripping on

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disciplined them anything. They basically let them go wild, and

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was like a week of crap. And then so I

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sued them in that case got settled, and I recognized

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in the process of this that the left in general,

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whatever you want to call them now, I really don't

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care for left right stuff, but they were totalitarians at base.

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I recognized this and said I wanted nothing further to

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do with them at all. I left the left as

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it were, and I instantly recognized that effectively I was

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at least a civil libertarian in the sense that I

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believed in the use of one's own speech, the right

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to free speech and individual rights was pretty important. That

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of utopian society. In fact, without it, you can't have

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anything resembling even a decent, non oppressive situation. So I

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recognize that. And then, you know, at that time, I

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was doing all these TV appearances and it was Fox

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News and all that that all of course has gone

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since you know, I came out against Israel. But yeah,

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so then I ended up becoming a libertarian. And then

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I was asked by the this is the worst day

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of my life. I wish this never happened. The Mesis Caucus.

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The head of the Mesas Caucus, Michael Hyes, called me.

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I was at Hillsdale College at the time, preparing to

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give a lecture on the Great Reset, which they were

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paying me handsomely for very much, very handsomely, just to

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talk for an hour, and and he asked me if

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I wanted to run for president. I'm like, president of

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what he said of the United States. I'm like, what

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are you talking about? Man? He said, we need somebody

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to run as a liberty You know, the Mesis Caucus

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needs its presidential candidate. I had heard about, you know

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that the that the the first choice was Dave Smith,

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and you know, I you know, I knew I wasn't

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their first choice, but it nevertheless sort of struck a

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this could be interesting, and I decided to do it.

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The worst decision I ever made in my whole life.

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Speaker 1: Can't party politics, huh, you got that, just.

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Speaker 2: The party politics. Well, first of all, I got attacked

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by all these libertarians and right off the top, coming

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had effective alienated half the party at least, and how

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they were hated. And then all that vitriol got directed

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towards me, like I was this Mesus caucus ogre, you know,

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and so that that was uncomfortable, and you know, then

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a real asshole, and some others, and then you know,

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I was still even after I struggled.

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Speaker 1: At first with that's just more inter party and intercaucus

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interneesine garbage.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I've come around. Really, we'll get to this.

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I suppose, you know, more towards your position about you know,

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the hyper individualism of libertarianism, which leaves you pretty much

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defenseless against groups who act in unison, who act with

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intent and accord, you know, and you can't prove that

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they do, but except you can see the traces of it,

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and until they.

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Speaker 1: Every once in a while just absolutely tell you that

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they do it. Yeah, they'll just come out and they'll

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write a book and be like, here, look what we did.

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And it's like, uh so I'm only allowed to celebrate that,

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right If I criticize that, I'm going to get in

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trouble right exactly.

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Speaker 2: And after the you know, the way the thing went

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down at the Libertarian Party convention was unfortunate. I got

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drugged the day before the vote by a guy who

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I thought was giving me a CBD gummy. It turned

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out to be one hundred milligrams of THHC and I

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was supposed to speak right after Trump and I made

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no fucking sense at all.

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Speaker 1: None I could. I could see that. Although although when

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you consider what half the crowd was like probably there

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what half the crowd there was probably like you might

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have made all the sense in the world to them,

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because they're probably as high as you.

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Speaker 2: Were, possibly Yeah, But somebody yelled out from the audience

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how high are you? And I was like, oh shit,

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I don't where do I go with this? I said,

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not high enough, you know, something like that. Anyway, the

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decision was made just to own it, and but at

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the last I won the first five rounds of voting

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anyway by a long shot. And then this guy, Mike Tremott,

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the cop cop turned libertarians so called, he threw his

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weight behind Chase Oliver, the transgender advocate who was running

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a LGB E t q I A A plus plus

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campaign under a libertarian.

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Speaker 1: Michael Michael, Let's be honest that that really is a

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better represent he really is a better representation of libertarianism.

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Somebody who's going to be able to talk about economics

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and hoppah and you know, and and localism. That's now

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they want to hear about queer ship.

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Speaker 2: I ran as a hoppy and a lot of the

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people in the party hated that, uh, not a lot,

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you know, all but the thesis people and a few

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others they hated that. They said it was bigotry and

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all this ship. You know, I was called a bigot

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and all that, and uh yeah, they that guy threw

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his weight by becoming the VP candidate for Chase Oliver

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and then his people, he had been just knocked out

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in the round before his people, of course, segregated to

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him behind Chase Oliver. So I lost the final vote

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after winning five rounds. Huh and Uh, you know that

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that was hard to live down.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember what do you remember before you even

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like before the convention and like six months before that,

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me being on the phone with you and going, Mike,

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make this all about Israel and Zionism. Just run as

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a libertarian talking about Israel and Zionism. It's like, no,

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I wish you would have been it would.

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Speaker 2: Be, but I actually did. For towards the end there,

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I was really harsh on you know what happened, uh

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after October seventh, you know, or you know, we know

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it all. That's not the beginning of history by any stretch,

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but well, we knew that they were going to commit

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a genocide. And I never believed the whole story of

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October seventh. I still don't. Of course, that was really,

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you know, a setup. But uh yeah, there were things

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you can't say as a candidate. It's a problem. You know,

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I'm I'm not a I should say like, I'm not

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like a political personality, and as such, I'm a thinker

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and I say whatever the hell I think, And you

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can't do that as a candidate because these people want,

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you know, programmatic answers, and you know, I wouldn't give

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them usually, but yeah, that was stupid. I mean it

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was really stupid. I lost the hill Hillsdale Fellowship over that.

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So the call that came while I was at Hillsdale

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actually ended up knocking me off of that and that

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you know, I needed to move on from that eventually.

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But you know, that was one hundred and fifty thousand

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dollars a year for her like doing anything at all,

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and so that was a big hit. So yeah, at

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this juncture, so you know, I'm still a hoppying but

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hoppying is hoppy and in the sense that you know, uh,

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you know, private property would solve a lot of problems. Basically,

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exclusion would be is possible.

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Speaker 1: That's the greatest The greatest thing about Happa is the

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fact and what makes him a quote unquote Nazi to

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a lot of libertarians is something that libertarians talk about,

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freedom of association. The problem is you're not allowed to

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but as soon as you talk about freedom of association

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from a right wing point of view, then you're a Nazi.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly that. That's what I was called. I was

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called a Nazi by these party people this, I guess.

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You know, there's so many of these factions within that

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party it's absurd. The Faketarians and.

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Speaker 1: The whole nine yards, those are just those are just

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those are the people that got you kicked out of

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n y U.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the same people. They're the same people, so you

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know they are and they are establishment hacks really, you know,

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they just like they just repeat establishment charges against people,

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the same kinds of ship I got from the left.

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n y U professors and the left when I left

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the left was less I should say, less surprising and

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also less uh uh. It was. It was like a

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less in intensity that than the than the crap I

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was getting from these libertarians, who I thought would be

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more more amenable to my ideas and the hobby and abuse,

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but no, they were. I was a big and all this,

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you know, because you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, well think about it, okay, So you know

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we already you already mentioned the hyper individual and how

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detrimental that is to fight against groups, to hold off

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groups that are coming together so that they can have

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concerted power and collective power. And that's the way, everybody,

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that's the way every political or let's say, community organizing

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type of group works except libertarians. So I know there's

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a faction of libertarians that are, you know, like we're

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about localism. Lets you know, we're about private property, we're

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about exclusion or about freedom of association for whatever reason, race, creed, color,

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no matter what. But really, when it comes down to it, libertarians,

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you know, it's like, I mean, I don't even want

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to say hurting cats. It's not like herding cats. It's

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more like you're dealing with these people who embrace individualism,

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and then they're so individual well that the first thing

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they do after they break individualism is look for other

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people who've embraced individualism so they can hang out with them.

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And then when they hang out with them, there is

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no thought of, okay, maybe we should organize to get

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what we want. I remember somebody saying, I can't remember

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who said it, damn it. I love to give credit

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where credits due, but he said I think that libertarians

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are probably the most immoral people on the planet because

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they believe that they're they what they believe and how

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they want to structure things will bring peace and prosperity

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to their people. But they're not willing to do anything

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to make that happen. They're not willing to do anything

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to stop the wars, to stop you know, to stop

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the occupation that we've been under for eighty years. They're

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not willing to do any of that because as soon

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as you say, well, maybe it's that group over there

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that's doing it, Oh no, that's collectivism. Okay, Well, I

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mean people collectivize for power. Yeah, that's who you're fighting.

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You're fighting a collective.

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Speaker 2: It's so when I you know, after the campaign, I

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let loose on on a lot of things and I said,

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I don't, I don't. I no longer represent the Libertarian

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party at all. And we, of course a lot of

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libertarians still following me on XENS. We're very shall I say,

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disaffected by some of the things I started saying. And

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they started, you know, they started with the collectivism ship

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because I started criticizing the Jewish ruling class, you know,

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and they said, that's collectivism. You know, get the hell

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out of here. There is a Jewish, there is a

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so say say, you're going to criticize.

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Speaker 1: Them, but Nazis, but but but but these are the

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same people who will be like, oh, those people are

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there are Nazis. We have to we have to attack them, right, Okay,

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So you're just you're just saying that you prefer this

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group to that group. So and you don't want to

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and basically you don't want to go against what the

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regime has, what the regime allows you allows to be

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acceptable and verboten.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Like you know, I ran as an ant

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cap and you know, bold making what I thought were

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bold statements about the state. You know, and the state

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is a parasite and all this kind of stuff. That's

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not controversy. Nobody cares about that. That doesn't that doesn't

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bother anybody. They just they laugh at that shit. You know,

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the establishment doesn't care that. They'd love to keep everybody

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on that kind of track. But when you start to

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identify who the ruling class is and then attack them,

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then they'll come after you. And that was you know,

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even these libertarians who are basically the minions, they're NPCs

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mostly of the establishment. So yeah, they attacked me for that.

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So and then you know, Dave Smith, I guess when

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I posted something to the effect that when I applied

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the hoppy and reasoning to Zionists and I said they

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should be physically removed, just like Hopp says about communists

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or whatever. I mean, if you're going to look at

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a group and say that they're in anathema to liberty,

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you know, like communists, or property rights like communists and

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so forth, but why wouldn't you then you know it's

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in natural extension to say the same thing about Zionists.

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And I said the Jewish elite, I said they should

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be physically removed the Jewish elite. Dave Smith promptly. I

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guess I didn't notice it for a while, but he

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basically disavowed me utterly. This is after he had he

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had endorsed me for the candidates the UH. And now

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I guess he says, I'm an embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I'm finding him to be an embarrassment, frankly, because he's

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just an anti Zionist Jew. And they're they're allowed to

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say things about Zionism, but they don't want you to

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go into the UH. They don't want you to talk

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about the Jewish power elite that you know, organized Jewry.

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They don't talk about that. That's not allowed. When you

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go there, you're over the line. So I think, Uh,

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these Zionist Jews basically work as containment and they work

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to uh, they're they're basically doing uh, damage control for

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this Jewish elite by by part by part, partitioning off

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Zionism as the strict as the you know in Israel,

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as the only manifestation of this. You know, whenever you

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talk about anything else, like the fact that you have,

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like the list you put up today which I saved,

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if you talk about the billionaires amongst this class and

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how they're actually driving US policy and things like that,

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you can't. That's not allowed. So I think Smith, Dave

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Smith is a joke in the sense that he just

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he just sort of says the right things about Israel,

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but he won't go so far as to say. In fact,

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he said on one post in which he was complimenting

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Goad Sad for his free speech dance, I was like,

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are you kidding me? And he said, I'm not an

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anti Israel guy, but and so forth, I said, not

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an anti Israel guy. Apparently you're supposed to be an

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ant cap who's against the state, and you're telling me

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you're not opposed to the most criminal state on the

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face of the earth, Israel, And you know, he you know,

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he didn't answer that. It got a lot of play,

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but he didn't respond. Well.

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Speaker 1: The problem I have with the anties, with people who

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just concentrate on Zionism is is that Zionism, really the

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idea started getting fleshed out in the mid eighteen hundreds,

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but you can go back centuries and see that organized Jewry,

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even on the international level, was a problem, and people

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were talking about it, people wrote about it, and I mean,

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all Zionism is it is basically them coming together and saying, Okay,

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if we are going to be able to do this,

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and do this on a mass level, we're going to

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need a state that gives us the legitimacy in the

473
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eyes of the world. And because and we need nukes,

474
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,039
and we need weapons, and we need this is the

475
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,480
way we are going to We've been dealing with we've

476
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,359
had no power except financial power, or for two thousand years,

477
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:03,640
I would say twelve hundred years when you really start

478
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,519
to studying the history, and we haven't had any you know,

479
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,880
we get we go in, we get financial power, and

480
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,039
eventually we get kicked out. You know, they kick us

481
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,400
out of the country because we become you know, we

482
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,599
basically figure out how to control people through finance, and

483
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,839
they're invited in. I'm not letting gentiles off the hook here.

484
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:26,440
Gentiles have to invite them in in order to do this.

485
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:28,759
And a lot of kings and a lot of mayors

486
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,799
and a lot of governors or did this, and they're

487
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:36,119
just they're at fault too. But you're not excusing you're

488
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,640
not excusing the behavior either. I mean, you're if you

489
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,640
hire a soldier to come in and kill somebody, you know,

490
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,000
it's not like you the soldier. You let the soldier

491
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:49,480
off the hook. So all Zionism is is a manifestation

492
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:57,319
is a culmination of Jewish power becoming that has existed,

493
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:02,359
organized Jewish power that has existed for centies, deciding we

494
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,880
need a state in order to and and they catched

495
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880
it in. Well we're not going to be safe. We

496
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880
get pogrammed everywhere we go. It's not like, you know,

497
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:15,000
we've never done anything, We've never done anything to deserve

498
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,359
it or I mean, like you know, which I'm covering

499
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,480
in a very long series that these these weren't even

500
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:27,799
pograms in Russian half the times it was Jewish Jewish revolutionaries.

501
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:32,640
It rose up and started started trying to overthrow the czar,

502
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:36,000
and then when Russians fought back, they said, oh, we're

503
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,400
being pogrammed. I mean like I think in the in

504
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,319
the Kishen of pogram The first day before fighting had

505
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,519
barely even started out, in German newspapers were saying twenty

506
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:47,680
thousand Jews were killed. I mean there was no there

507
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,079
was There weren't even any clashes. So basically, Zionism is

508
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:55,119
a culmination of Jewish power. And I had Daryl Kooper

509
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,359
on recently. We talked about the Jewish question historically, and

510
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,440
we looked at the history of what happens historically, especially

511
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,559
in the last twelve hundred years when Jews are given power,

512
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,559
and they were given power in a lot of Muslim countries,

513
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:11,159
and one of the first things that they would do

514
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,639
is they would seek to punish the Christian the Christian

515
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,800
population if there was a Christian population there. Saw it

516
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,039
in Spain, saw it in several North African countries. So

517
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,679
this is not this whole Zionism thing, is just basically

518
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:34,119
the culmination of two thousand years of history. So if

519
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:40,000
you're not addressing it's like it's basically like talking about you.

520
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:44,920
It's the same thing as starting Palestine. What happened the

521
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,159
Palestine Israel problem starting it on October seventh instead of

522
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,679
going back to the eighteen nineties when they first started

523
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:53,159
going there.

524
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I understand Zionism was a Jewish response

525
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:04,519
to the so called Jewish question partly and the you know,

526
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,679
of course, the question was you know, assimilation versus you know,

527
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,079
separatism and all that, and uh, there was assimilationists, of course,

528
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:24,159
and then there were the really dogmatic separatists, and oh.

529
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Speaker 1: They killed each other. They would have. There were assassinations

530
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,239
of Jews by Zionists who were like, no, we have

531
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,840
to fit in, we have to become we have to

532
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,920
become Germans, we have to become English people, and Zionists

533
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,840
would assassinate them. I mean, the whole thing. I saw

534
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,599
this the other day. I forget who put it up.

535
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:47,760
It might have been Built Crystal or Eli Lake or

536
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,719
one of those psychopaths. Was talking about FDR who refused

537
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,320
the boats coming coming to the United States filled with

538
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,199
Jews and said send them back. Well, why did he

539
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,760
send them back? Alison Weird details this, details this with

540
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,119
references out the Ying Yang in her book Against Against

541
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,840
Our Better Judgment. They were sent back because Zionists went

542
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,599
to FDR and said, send those boats back. Yes, we

543
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:20,440
they go to Palestine, or they go nowhere else. We

544
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,039
want them to go to Palestine, so send them back.

545
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: So it's like, I mean, and I've read, I've read

546
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,159
some academic papers about you know, Zionists cooperation with Nazis.

547
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,519
It's very extensive.

548
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: Of course, that was mostly on the Nazis part. There's

549
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,920
a really good book called Anti Semitism and Zionism in

550
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:44,119
Nazi Germany by nicosia He. Basically a lot of people

551
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:47,239
have used that to say, oh, the like the Zionists

552
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,239
controlled the Nazis or they were working together. It was

553
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,679
really about it was about economics. You know that the

554
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,639
Nazis obviously wanted the Jews out of Germany, but they

555
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,559
didn't want them to take wealth. That they thought it was, oh,

556
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:03,079
they don't want take money. So they figured out a

557
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,159
way that they would allow them to go to if

558
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:08,960
they went to Palestine. There was a financial arrangement that

559
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,920
would allow them to take I mean like seventy five

560
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,039
to eighty percent of the money their money with them,

561
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,280
which people would be like, well, twenty percent is theft.

562
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,159
I don't give a fucker, right, I mean we're talking

563
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,519
we're talking about a civilizational a European civil war that's

564
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,239
going on. Yeah, I mean it's not. It wasn't only

565
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,679
Germany this was happening. They were doing the same thing

566
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,679
in Poland at the time. There was a Havar agreement

567
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,280
in Poland at the time, So you know, this is

568
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,480
and that's another thing about this whole thing. Everybody wants

569
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:38,960
to make this into something that's really simple, and then

570
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,360
when you start reading all the books about exactly what

571
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,480
was happening back then, especially by people who were who

572
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,159
were alive back then or who were alive shortly after,

573
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,760
you're like, oh, this is this goes a lot further

574
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,320
than just oh we don't like the Jews. It's like, well,

575
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,199
Judea declares war on Germany and it's going to be

576
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,920
a financial war. Maybe you see what financial wars do

577
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:09,480
to countries, especially countries that have no real natural resources.

578
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,840
So yeah, I mean it's.

579
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: They also were very clear that they needed anti Semitism

580
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,440
in that. You know, Herzel said anti Semis are our

581
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:27,519
best friends, because this would justify their separate estate. And

582
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,360
so I don't know how we got to this, but.

583
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Well you were we were just talking about Zionism and

584
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,079
how attacking just attacking Zionism is.

585
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be right.

586
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to be a sort of like a

587
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,840
a way of gatekeeping away from a problem that has

588
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,480
existed for a long, long, long time.

589
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not even allowed to mention that problem. And

590
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:02,360
the anti Zionists hot there. Uh, well, police your speech

591
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,840
about this. I've had that happen too. You know. Don't

592
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,360
say Jews, don't say Jewishly, don't say Jewish ruling class,

593
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,920
say Zionists. And I'm like, oh, frankly, I don't think

594
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000
even Norman Finkelstein has come out and said, I don't

595
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:18,920
think they're all Zionists. I don't even want to call

596
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,320
them that. I call them the Jewish supremacist, Jewish supremacist

597
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,599
billionaire class is what he calls these people.

598
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,679
Speaker 1: And I think that's In the twenties, they they called

599
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:36,639
themselves international Jewry. Yeah, they called them. Because this was

600
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,400
being written about in the nineteen twenties, Maurice Samuel wrote,

601
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,039
you gentiles. At the time, the Henry Ford The Dearborn

602
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:46,480
Independent was writing tons of articles. There were articles all

603
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:49,519
over the world in papers all over well the West

604
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:53,480
at the time that were this was discussed openly, right,

605
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,920
and it's like, okay, so you think that problem w

606
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:03,280
way because they got their own country. No, they got

607
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,920
their own country, and then most of them still aren't

608
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,079
going back there, right they need It almost seems like

609
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,880
the setup. It almost seems like conspiracy to keep them.

610
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,880
I mean, it's not even a country. It can't if

611
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,360
it can't survive on its own, it's not a country. Okay,

612
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,800
it's but the problem is is that there's so much

613
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,679
of the influence here, and you have so many Jewish

614
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,559
billionaires here. It's basically like we're going to stay in

615
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,599
other countries and we are going to have highly influential

616
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:41,440
positions in academia, entertainment, finance, things like that, so we

617
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:46,400
can be well. I mean, look, how do they survive.

618
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,320
Forty thousand businesses have closed since October seventh in Israel.

619
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,800
How are they surviving right now if it is not

620
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,559
by basically siphoning money away from every every country that

621
00:40:58,599 --> 00:40:59,760
they possibly.

622
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,199
Speaker 2: Can, Germany, United States well.

623
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: And also and not to mention, okay, say it was

624
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:10,400
only the three point eight billion dollars a year that

625
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,920
we give them to not go to war with Egypt.

626
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,440
It's basically what that money is is three point eight

627
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,559
billion dollars not to go to war with Egypt. Yeah,

628
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:21,159
you do know how many Jewish? I mean I said, I

629
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,840
put a list of Jewish billionaires up there. They could

630
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,960
give that three point eight billion every year. They could

631
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,719
do it. Why are we doing it? Why aren't they

632
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,800
doing it? And these are not I'm not saying these

633
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,840
are Jewish billionaires. I'm saying these are Jewish billionaires who

634
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,440
are openly giving money to Zionist causes. Well, the biggest

635
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:45,039
Zionist cause is Israel. Why aren't you providing that money?

636
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they want to get it from us because

637
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,079
they would like us to be I think you know, look,

638
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,480
they want to make us kind of like the batteries

639
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:58,960
and the matrix. Really, we're just we're just there to be.

640
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:07,840
We're spowering the their imperialism, for lack of a better term. Yeah.

641
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,599
Speaker 1: Maury Samuel wrote in You Gentiles, he wrote that when

642
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,199
we try to be like you, when we try to

643
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,199
act like geniles, it's very clumsy for us, and we

644
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,800
don't so think about that. He's writing this in nineteen

645
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,400
twenty two. They don't have a state yet. They haven't

646
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,360
had a state for if you you know, if history

647
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,280
is correct, the two thousand years right, then they put

648
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,039
together a state. And Maury Samuel clearly says, and this

649
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:42,119
is Maury Samuel wasn't some like crackpot who wrote a

650
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:44,400
book and printed it out of his house. This is

651
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,440
a guy who up to the seventies, like after he

652
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,719
wrote this book and a bunch of other books. Up

653
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,800
until the seventies, he had a radio show in New

654
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,000
York City. You know, so this was a popular guy.

655
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,119
One of the most most read books in the Jewish

656
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:02,440
community in the twentieth century. He's saying this, He's like,

657
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,079
we can't do things like it's like we whenever we

658
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,599
try to act like you guys, and then they get

659
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:13,599
their own country, and it's what is this country? Right

660
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:18,159
from the start, it's murders, terrorism. I mean, and I'm

661
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:21,039
not talking about like sure this country was founded on

662
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,119
having to conquer a people who were already there. I

663
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:27,320
get that. I would even I'm even one of those

664
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,480
people who's like, if they would have just moved every

665
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,840
single person who was there out of that country and

666
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,079
not kept them there, I would that's just the history

667
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:42,199
of the world. Yeah, but then they decided to keep

668
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,920
like a hostage there that they're going to abuse, and

669
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,119
then when the hostage fights back, they can play the victim. Yeah,

670
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,800
like they can. Oh, look, we're surrounded. We try to

671
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,599
be nice to these people, and we're surrounded by all

672
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:59,159
these people and they just hate us. And literally this

673
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,119
is what they did in Russian Empire as well. I mean,

674
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,800
this is there's the whole There's nothing really different once

675
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,719
you read that history. So so let's let's get into

676
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,400
this because you know, we don't have to we don't

677
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,559
have to talk for for hours here, because we could

678
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:19,840
talk about this all the time. Yeah, you decide, you've

679
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,000
decided that somebody has to take up the anti at

680
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:30,239
least the anti Zionist model, so talk about it.

681
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I found that a pack and it's it

682
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:39,639
exists now. It's called the Anti Zionist America Pack. And

683
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:45,960
the pack is about removing Zionists from the government. And

684
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:49,719
you know, I use the term zionists loosely. We know

685
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,760
what that means. It means, you know, in the in

686
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,079
the most direct political manifestation, it means that we're not

687
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:05,679
being that we cease being robbed by Israel by being extorted, uh,

688
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:13,199
for their for their hostilities and genocidal rampages, and that

689
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,320
we have, you know, this recent case where this uh

690
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,159
you know, uh Andrajovich. What was his name again, the

691
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:26,960
guy that got busted in Las Vegas and let.

692
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: Out, Yeah, I don't remember his name. But these kinds of.

693
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,639
Speaker 2: Things like just show you the extent to which this

694
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:39,719
this infiltration has become complete. And with the Trump administration,

695
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:43,760
the mask is off totally. It's very clear what they're

696
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,719
doing that this Jewish supremacist billionaire class and a Jewish eliter,

697
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,559
whatever you want to call them, are running this country

698
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:57,719
and controlling policy, not just foreign policy, but domestic policy.

699
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,360
With their attempts to put the Anti Sematism Awareness Act

700
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,039
over on us, which hasn't passed yet, but in a

701
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:08,800
way many of the executive orders Trump has passed has

702
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,960
made most of it unnecessary. It's obviated a good deal

703
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,960
of that because they're already implying they're already applying effectively

704
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:25,079
the Anti Semitism Awareness Act and all of the as

705
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:29,639
we see with this entire administration, constant to supplications and

706
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,480
subservience and groveling before Jewish masters. I mean, this is sickening.

707
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,239
I couldn't believe it. So I mean, I believe it,

708
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,920
but I just you know, it reached the tipping point

709
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,519
where I thought something has to be done and nobody

710
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,840
else is doing it, so I guess I'll give it

711
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,920
a shot. So I found that this anti Zionist America

712
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,679
pack first idea was to have a party. Then I

713
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,000
remembered that third parties do nothing in this country. They

714
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,599
get nowhere. I mean, they don't even get on the ballot.

715
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:06,000
It's absurd. The uphill battle is ridiculous. That would it

716
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,320
would take decades for that to materialize. Whereas if you

717
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:16,159
direct funds toward anti Zionists or at least non Zionist candidates,

718
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,880
then you know, and try to collect collectivize our economic

719
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,079
power of millions and millions of Americans who's who are

720
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:33,199
being completely shot out from the political sphere thanks to

721
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,880
this Jewish billionaire class that's running the show. If you

722
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,679
collect all that wealth and final it into a movement

723
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:47,880
that is trying to you know, disconnect our political sphere

724
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,840
from the Zionist control, then we may get somewhere. And

725
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,840
you know, it's it's a long shot, I admit, but

726
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,800
I think, uh, you know, and I'm just starting it.

727
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,719
I don't know how long I'll run this thing, because frankly,

728
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,119
I don't like executive director work. I'm just an idea man.

729
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,000
So I came up with the idea. I may turn

730
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:15,519
it over to somebody who wants to take take charge

731
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:18,239
of it and not too in the not too distant future.

732
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:23,960
But I put the I put the mission statement up

733
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,679
and uh, it's pretty explicit. Uh do you mind if

734
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,400
I read it here?

735
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: Please go right ahead.

736
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,039
Speaker 2: Uh. The Anti Zionist America Pack as a pack is

737
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,880
dedicated to removing Zionist control from the US government at

738
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,719
the local, state, and federal levels. We fund and support

739
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,920
candidates for political office who refuse funds from Israeli lobbies

740
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,320
such as APAK, Christians United for Israel, J Street, and

741
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,480
the Zionist Organization of America. These the candidates we support,

742
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:03,440
have no dual loyalties or citizenships. These candidates actually in

743
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,159
the best ins of the American people, not on behalf

744
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:10,280
of Israel or its Zionists supporters in the US or elsewhere.

745
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,320
We support efforts to dismantle Zionist control, cut foreign entanglements

746
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,800
and prioritize the interests of American citizens above all by

747
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,599
advancing non interventionist policies that cut all foreign military aid,

748
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,440
including to Israel as it commits atrocities and crimes against humanity.

749
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,559
As a pack aims at a better America and a

750
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:39,199
better world, and a world liberated from endless foreign conflict, conflicts,

751
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:43,920
and imperial domination. We advocate for the removal of US

752
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:47,559
threats and sanctions against the due process of the International

753
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,480
Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court, ensuring these

754
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:57,239
institutions can independently hold accountable those responsible for international crimes

755
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:02,119
without interference from Zionists influence to US policies. In pursuit

756
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,719
of this vision, we will work to require APAC to

757
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,719
register as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agents Registration

758
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,519
Act PARAH. We will also work to protect civil liberties

759
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:18,840
against censorship and surveillance often tied to Zionist agendas, enforced

760
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:24,599
borders and immigration policies that safeguard American communities, pursue accountability

761
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:29,199
for lead corruption, and advocate all ending the federal reserves

762
00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:34,000
grip on our economy. We support full investigations in the networks,

763
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:39,199
like Epstein's the foreign intelligence blackmail operations that they enable

764
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,119
or that enable them, and the foreign loyalties that compromise

765
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:49,000
our government and institutions. Through transparent, grassroots driven campaigns, as

766
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:53,880
a pack empowers a non interventionist freedom focused to America

767
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,519
free from zionists imperialist agendas, and dedicated to true sovereignty,

768
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:03,480
economic independence, and national prosperity. So that's the mission statement.

769
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:07,679
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you a couple of questions. Sure,

770
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,480
do you have any equipment that can detect bugs in

771
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:16,239
your house, in your phone and anywhere else? And I'm

772
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,519
not even joking. Do you have any pets?

773
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,519
Speaker 2: I don't personally have a pet. I'm here now at

774
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:25,559
my son's place, watching my son's house.

775
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:26,199
Speaker 1: He has a cat.

776
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,199
Speaker 2: Why do you think it might be carrying a bug? No?

777
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:33,599
Speaker 1: Because I was listening to John Karaaku, former CIA agent

778
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,800
that he was on my show six years ago or

779
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,840
something like that. We were talking about Iran recently. He

780
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,880
was talking to Patrick by David and he talked about

781
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,119
how you know him? And some agents back in the

782
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:49,000
day went over to Israel and they tried to recruit

783
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:51,280
them to be a double one of them to be

784
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,280
a double agent and the guy was very rude and

785
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,159
told them to fuck off. And when he got home,

786
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,920
his dog's tail had been cut off, and he was,

787
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,840
you know, sitting in the corner crying and he's trying

788
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,519
to figure it out and his dog's tails just cut off.

789
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:08,679
And I'm thinking, well, you know, if some scholars or

790
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,920
athletes or astronauts had broken in, they probably would have

791
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,519
just robbed the place, not cut the dog's tail off,

792
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:19,119
because that's all that happened. Also, you know, you're you know,

793
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,760
I maybe get a car that's like older than nineteen

794
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:31,719
eighty five because they're they're not hijackable. And also, you know, look,

795
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,440
I'm saying all these things because I think you have.

796
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,880
I think you have. It's a great idea, and the

797
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,000
time has come. The thing is is if this were

798
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,440
to get any the kind of traction that it needs

799
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,360
to get, they're.

800
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:48,079
Speaker 2: Going to try to kill me.

801
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the at least are gonna child Porn is

802
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,079
going to be found on your computer. Jesus Christ, you know,

803
00:52:55,159 --> 00:53:02,960
I mean, yeah, I mean these the look, these people

804
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:08,280
are psychopaths. Yeah I'm not talking I'm not talking about

805
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:13,480
the Jews. I'm talking about the people who this elite

806
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,840
that you're talking about, and it's always been the elite

807
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,960
if you study their history, you know, I mean, yeah,

808
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,239
there's behavioral issues don't fit in really with you know,

809
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,599
a lot of cultures. But really it's the elite that

810
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:34,400
are the most dangerous. They're incredible psychopaths, they are they

811
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:40,559
you know, I mean there's a reason why I under

812
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:44,000
people just don't fucking get this. Okay. There's a lot

813
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:46,280
of people out there on the Internet. There's a lot

814
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,920
of people who, you know, especially people who are anonymous

815
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,960
on the internet. They don't understand why people who are

816
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:56,320
using their own name, or people who have families or

817
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,599
people who own houses don't call out the Jews every

818
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,559
time they get a chance to exactly.

819
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get this crap from all these noons online

820
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,639
say the Jews, say the Jews. You know, listen, buddy,

821
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,840
you're sitting here behind an anonymous moniker. Okay, I got

822
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,920
my name out here for real, and uh that's all

823
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,800
they need, you know.

824
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, look, I've just I've gotten to the

825
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,159
point in my life I've gotten old enough where I'm like,

826
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:33,480
I know the enemy is I'm you know, I'm not

827
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,000
heritage American but my family has been here for you know,

828
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:40,360
been here for over a century. My my family has

829
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,960
fought fought in the wars, and you know since then.

830
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,239
And you know, half of my my mother's family is

831
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,599
buried out in you know one you know, almost everybody

832
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,800
in my mother's family is buried out in one cemetery

833
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,360
half an hour south of Johnstown, Pennsylvania. So half of

834
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,440
my family is buried is grey.

835
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: Close to where I am right now.

836
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's buried here, you know, it's from here. The

837
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,760
other half is in Porto ric you know, the other

838
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,320
half's in Puerto Rico. But we've been here. They moved here,

839
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,079
you know, a century ago, left Puerto Rico and came here.

840
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:19,760
A century ago. I got nowhere else to go, man.

841
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:26,039
I mean it's like, you know, they talk about how

842
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:28,119
you know, oh, you know, every once in a while,

843
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:30,840
somebody will get mad at me because I don't because

844
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,719
I defend somebody they don't like, or I don't say

845
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,400
something the perfect way that they need me to say it,

846
00:55:38,679 --> 00:55:41,599
because there's such a fucking egotistical piece of shit that

847
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:43,960
they're like, oh, you're you know, once we take power,

848
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,199
you're going back to Okay, where where am I going

849
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,639
back to? Where are you gonna send me to? I mean,

850
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,320
like literally, the only place you can send me is

851
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,320
like like sea cotton in El Salvador, like to a

852
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,159
prison somewhere. I don't Puerto Rico is still part of

853
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:07,079
this country, so that's kind of retarded. Spain won't have me,

854
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:10,920
you know, the Polish, you know what's Poland now, won't

855
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,519
won't have you know, won't have that side of my family.

856
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,039
So what the where the fuck am I going? I've

857
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:20,719
just decided I'm going to say whatever I want and

858
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,920
if they kill me, I'm fuck it. I mean, you

859
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,719
know it's yeah, you know, I mean, we're.

860
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: This is a personal on a personal note, Do you

861
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,840
think I'm crazy for doing this?

862
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you're crazy for doing it, because if

863
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,559
it was, because when you read the room from what

864
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:42,719
happens since October seventh, this would be a this would

865
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,159
be the time to do it. I mean, I'm just

866
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,079
in a trying to in a very comedic way, I'm

867
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:52,239
basically trying to prepare you for what's coming. I mean,

868
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,679
these these are psychopaths. They you know, when you when

869
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,519
when you hear the stories about oh this is what

870
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:08,119
people will do to keep power. I mean, just look

871
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:12,239
at the Gaza strip. Yeah, this is what people will

872
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,559
do to keep power. I mean, I've seen I'm not

873
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,719
one of these people who harps on like the atrocities

874
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,960
because I'm I'm a realist when it comes to war.

875
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,320
You know. Also, I'm a Christian, and I believe that

876
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:32,280
this war wouldn't be happening unless God wanted it to. Sorry,

877
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,039
I'm kind of in that kind of camp. I'm in

878
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:39,159
that camp. And you know, but you know when you

879
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:41,000
watch a video of a I mean, I watch a

880
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:42,960
video of a little girl. She couldn't have been ten

881
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:45,800
years old. It was just walking with like some food

882
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,639
the other day, and a bomb dropped right next to her.

883
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:51,000
I'm talking, I'm talking about a bomb. Im like a

884
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:53,719
rocket or something, I don't know what it was, just

885
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,639
drop right next to her and she's gone. And it's

886
00:57:56,679 --> 00:58:00,800
like and I'm like, if they'll do that to her, yea,

887
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,159
to me, Oh absolutely, they'll do that to me. I

888
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:06,239
mean it's like, I mean, they'll do that to any

889
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,679
of us, you know, and.

890
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,559
Speaker 2: To their own people, as they did on October seventh.

891
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, oh they don't they don't care. They don't.

892
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:18,199
When you, once you read Russian history, you find out

893
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:21,679
that their first victims were always their own people. When

894
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:25,199
they were forced into to send people to draft, they

895
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:28,079
sent them. When when when the czar was like, look

896
00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:31,000
you people have dodged a draft long enough. If you're

897
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:32,719
going to be a part of this, you're if you're

898
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:34,000
going to be a part of this, you have to

899
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:36,880
you have to send people. We're going to have to

900
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,960
take conscripts. They would send the poorest, the most infirmed

901
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,719
of them, the ones that weren't in a leadership class,

902
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:45,960
and none of the leaderships. I mean, this is just

903
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:48,440
this is who they are. This is who they are,

904
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:52,079
you know, and it's been going on for a very

905
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:59,880
long time, and ignoring it, ignoring it because a narrative

906
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:04,760
has been built that this is the most abused people

907
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,519
of all time, culminating in an event that is not

908
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:13,000
even I mean, these people there are still people who

909
00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:16,840
call themselves Jews. Anybody who's still calling themselves an Assyrian

910
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,719
is just LARPing. I mean, you're you know, their whole

911
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:24,599
kingdoms that are gone, gone from history, wash from history.

912
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,519
Ninety nine percent of history is lost. There are people

913
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:29,280
we there are people who are gone that we don't

914
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,280
even know about, you know, but these are you know,

915
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:40,719
they're this victim this victimhood narrative that you know, it's

916
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,039
kind of hard not to learn from them, because once

917
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:46,119
you realize who's in power and who's you know, who's

918
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:48,679
controlling a lot of the a lot of the thought

919
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,039
leaders and a lot of people, it's like, okay, well,

920
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:55,840
you know, it's once you realize how much power they

921
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:01,159
have over the government. Where guy gets a guy gets

922
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:05,000
arrested for you know, trying to solicit a child. Oh no,

923
01:00:05,199 --> 01:00:10,400
send them back, send them back. How pedophiles from here

924
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,360
run there, you know, run there, run to the run

925
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,000
to Israel, and they protect them. Sometimes they'll send them back.

926
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,239
Sometimes they'll they'll convict them there. But it's not all

927
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,920
the time. It's not I mean, it's not all the time.

928
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,199
It's enough of them, you know, they praise you know,

929
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,840
there was a guy, I think back in nineteen ninety

930
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,480
nine who went in to a mosque and killed like

931
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:37,360
twenty one Muslims while they were praying, and I think

932
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,800
Smotrich has like a picture of him on his wall. Jesus,

933
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:42,400
these are people, I mean, these are.

934
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,079
Speaker 2: People who are not Hey, yeah, I mean we loasted

935
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,800
real quick. I need to turn my air conditioner back on.

936
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm dying, So yeah, I mean just basically what I'm

937
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:54,280
what I'm saying is is that I think this is

938
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,239
a good idea. I think it's a time an idea

939
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,639
that time has come. But you know, there's also You're

940
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:02,599
also going to have to deal with the fact that

941
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,639
there are gonna be people out there who are going

942
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:08,440
to tell you you have to have Jewish people involved

943
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,840
in this movement or it's going to you're gonna look

944
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,039
like a Nazi, or you're gonna have people who are

945
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:16,280
who are gonna say you can't have anybody who's Jewish

946
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,119
working for this because you don't know whether you don't

947
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:25,159
know what their real sympathies are and everything. So you know,

948
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,920
I mean, I I don't know. You know, It's like,

949
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,079
I mean, I'm I understand, I understand all positions. I

950
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:36,719
That's one thing I try to figure out is you know,

951
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,800
it's like it's like Marxists, like classic Marxist. Yeah, I understand,

952
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,440
And yeah they are like literally my sworn enemy. They're

953
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:51,519
probably the complete opposite of what I believe and everything.

954
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,320
But still I still seek to understand them, because if

955
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,840
you don't understand your enemy, there's no way you're going

956
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,400
to be able to defeat them. Yeah, and I mean

957
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,639
I think Zionism is the enemy of the United States.

958
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:08,239
It has been for eighty years. It's culminating now. I

959
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:11,119
don't know who the hell is running the White House.

960
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,960
But you know, if Donald if Donald Trump thinks that

961
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:17,800
he's you know, if he wants to present himself as

962
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:23,159
the President of the United States and that he's in charge,

963
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,400
I don't know, maybe maybe not care so fucking much,

964
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:33,119
and hire somebody who was born in Israel and they're

965
01:02:33,159 --> 01:02:36,639
going to be appointed state the state attorney for Nevada.

966
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,039
You're going to have what just happened now with Oklahoma.

967
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:47,920
Everybody's like, oh, Oklahoma, their their education system is being

968
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,440
completely overturned. Yeah, and it's going to be run by

969
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,280
Prager you. Now, it's just who's who. The head of

970
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,119
Peger You is a former intelligence agent for the friggin

971
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,920
for the frigin Israel military. So, I mean, where the

972
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:10,280
fuck this isn't America. I mean America has been. I mean,

973
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,400
we have traces of America here. There are places you

974
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,880
can go that it's still America. But when it comes

975
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,880
to the politics of America, this is the politics of Israel.

976
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, I'm and I'm you know, I'm

977
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,079
and I'm being I'm trying to take the most diplomat

978
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:32,719
say it in the most diplomatic way, because it's it's angering.

979
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,079
It should be angering to everybody, especially if your family

980
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:40,079
has been here since the beginning and like settled this

981
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:42,039
place and died for this place and went out on

982
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:46,639
the front, went went across the prairies and risked everything

983
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:48,039
to build this country.

984
01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:52,519
Speaker 1: And now look what it is. It's just it's basically

985
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,440
an annuity that another country can just take money from

986
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,079
whenever they want. And you know there's right now there's

987
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:05,199
more Jews serving American quote unquote American Jews serving in

988
01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:08,519
the IDF than there are in the American military. Give me,

989
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,960
I'm fucking done. I'm done. I mean, I want this

990
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:16,760
to work, you know, Michael's it's a time that it

991
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,760
is the thing that it's it's time has come. But

992
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,199
you know, and I would never say don't do it.

993
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,159
I would just say, know what you're getting into by

994
01:04:27,159 --> 01:04:30,679
doing this, because these are not good people.

995
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: They're not they're beyond belief psychopaths, and.

996
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the IDF is the most moral army in

997
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,400
the world. Did you know that?

998
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could you mess Joe. I'm not worried. I

999
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,719
guess the you know, the physical attacks, I'm not. I'm

1000
01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:55,079
not too worried about that. I guess the reputational stuff

1001
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:57,760
that I'll take already, the A d L I think

1002
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,480
has written me up. H. This is to be expected,

1003
01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:08,159
I think. But you know, it could get worse, but

1004
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,519
we'll see. I guess you're saying, don't leave my computer

1005
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:15,119
in my house ever, just carry it with me at

1006
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:17,079
all times, because.

1007
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,039
Speaker 1: Oh, that doesn't matter, dude. They can they can do

1008
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:19,679
that remote.

1009
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: They can get on it anyway.

1010
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:23,119
Speaker 1: They can get on it. Yeah, they can get on

1011
01:05:23,199 --> 01:05:28,480
it remote. I mean, it's it's just one of It's

1012
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:31,480
one of those things where when you start talking about

1013
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:35,760
international jewelry and their power, it almost feels like you

1014
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,920
have to say all the time, I'm not a pedophile,

1015
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,760
I don't have child porn on my computer, and I'm

1016
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,320
not suicidal. Yeah, because I mean.

1017
01:05:46,519 --> 01:05:49,119
Speaker 2: I've said the last one. I said that I'm not suicidal,

1018
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:52,960
but I may have to say the other ones just

1019
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,880
because you know they could try that. Yeah, yeah, and

1020
01:05:57,639 --> 01:06:00,639
everything they accuse you of their doing. So that's the idea.

1021
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. It's like you know what you were

1022
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:08,440
saying when about the the attacks that you had at

1023
01:06:08,519 --> 01:06:11,760
n Yu. All that is is it's it's an old

1024
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,000
Jewish trope of they cry out and cry out in

1025
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,920
pain as they strike you, right, you know, they act

1026
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,280
like the victim while they're like literally leveling your buildings

1027
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,840
and killing your killing your grandkids and killing your grandparents.

1028
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:29,280
They're killing your kids and killing your grandparents. I mean,

1029
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:36,159
I don't know, man, I don't know. I'm I'm trying

1030
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:39,039
to do everything I can. I'm organizing in real life,

1031
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:41,440
which is I think the most important thing. If you're

1032
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,400
if you think you're gonna do, if you think you're

1033
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,400
gonna win this battle just online, you're not at all.

1034
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:51,639
You're out of your mind. You know, you have to forget.

1035
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,519
Speaker 2: What do you think of the uh the New Movement?

1036
01:06:57,639 --> 01:07:00,480
I guess the white they're calling them White Supreme of

1037
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:07,280
course in uh is it? Uh, it's not. It's Arizona

1038
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:12,599
Return to the Land movement. Yeah. I think they have

1039
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:13,719
every right to do that.

1040
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean everybody should every Yeah, everybody should be able

1041
01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:18,480
to do that any gump that wants to do that.

1042
01:07:18,679 --> 01:07:20,360
If you want to do it as Catholics, if you

1043
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,199
want to do it as Protestants, if you want to

1044
01:07:22,239 --> 01:07:24,239
do it as Presbyterians. Do you want to do it

1045
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,159
as whites, if you want to do it as blacks,

1046
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:29,599
if you want to do it as Jews, you should

1047
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:30,360
be able to do it.

1048
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1049
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm sorry. That's it is. The problem has is multiculturalism.

1050
01:07:38,639 --> 01:07:42,239
It does not work. The only way multiculturalism works is

1051
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:47,800
with authoritarianism. Lee Kuan, you you know when Leakwan you

1052
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,159
you know, when he looked at what Singapore was and

1053
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:55,320
how it was just multi racial, multi ethnic of Asians

1054
01:07:55,719 --> 01:08:01,320
who Asian groups really hate each other. There's real and

1055
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:07,119
you know inter battles there. Yeah, he said, well, the

1056
01:08:07,159 --> 01:08:10,960
way we're going to have an orderly society is if

1057
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,920
you spit gum on the street, you are going to

1058
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,960
be caned publicly. If you scam somebody, you are going

1059
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:22,399
to be in jail for a very very long time,

1060
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,640
if you you know. And the thing is they don't

1061
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:31,640
police like like speech, like if if if a China

1062
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,199
if a Chinese person. I've heard this story from somebody

1063
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:38,079
who said they saw it firsthand. Chinese person tried to

1064
01:08:38,119 --> 01:08:40,760
walk into a Japanese restaurant and the Japanese person called

1065
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,079
them a dog and told them to get out. In

1066
01:08:43,159 --> 01:08:46,079
Singapore that you run to the police with that, and

1067
01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:51,520
they're gonna be like, move along, sir, But you cannot.

1068
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:55,760
If you're going to have order you're gonna need in

1069
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,319
a multi racial, a multi ethnic society. The only way

1070
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:04,159
it's gonna work with authoritarianism, with authoritarian control. Do we

1071
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:06,640
want that? Well, I mean that's a question for who

1072
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:12,079
whomever it be. Yeah, yeah, well it would be it

1073
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:17,159
would be better just to separate. Yeah, I mean this, yeah, yeah,

1074
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:21,479
so yeah, I think that you know, to go back

1075
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:27,880
to the so this. I think it's time. I think

1076
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,319
that more and more people are starting to see that,

1077
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:38,119
you know, Kumbayah amongst people who Yeah, people like to

1078
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:40,520
say we're one country. But you know, someone who lives

1079
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,319
in Salt Lake City, you know, a Mormon in Salt

1080
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:47,039
Lake City probably doesn't have a lot in common with

1081
01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:48,880
a guy who lives like on the Lower East Side

1082
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:56,199
of Manhattan. They're probably complete opposites. There's a there's a

1083
01:09:56,239 --> 01:10:01,560
real clash there, and it seems like the only thing

1084
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,039
that brings ever brings us together for a very short

1085
01:10:05,039 --> 01:10:08,880
period of time is tragedy. But it's a short period

1086
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,479
of time. And then it reverted within a week after

1087
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,920
nine to eleven. It was like for a couple of days, everybody,

1088
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,199
your politicians going, we need to stand together against this

1089
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:21,960
evil menace and everything, and then a week later it's like,

1090
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:23,600
oh no, we're going to do it this way. Oh no,

1091
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,039
we're going to do it our way. Oh no, we're

1092
01:10:25,039 --> 01:10:25,439
going to do it.

1093
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, I mean yeah, sorry, yeah, so I agree

1094
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,000
with you. That's what they do is with multiculturalism, is

1095
01:10:32,039 --> 01:10:38,000
they impose a totalitarian regime because that's the only way

1096
01:10:38,039 --> 01:10:42,920
that people will abide by it. And that's I think

1097
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,039
that's happening here. I mean, that's obviously happening here. And

1098
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:49,920
I think it benefits a certain group, as we know,

1099
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:57,199
who do not like homogenious white societies because they feel

1100
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:03,239
threatened in such societies or they feel that they are

1101
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,920
at risk in some sense of being a you know,

1102
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,239
so they love to have more.

1103
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:14,319
Speaker 1: They stand out. Yeah, that's the thing. They stand out.

1104
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,079
So if you have a Multicut, you know, they stood

1105
01:11:17,119 --> 01:11:20,520
out in Germany they definitely stood out in the Russian Empire.

1106
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:25,119
So if you have a multicultural society, where you know,

1107
01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:29,319
you have five different groups that completely look different and

1108
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:32,880
act different, if you have this other group that acts

1109
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,800
insular and acts different, well then it's just another group exactly.

1110
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:42,720
And because they're organized, and because they have resources, and

1111
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,399
because they have international resources, it's very easy for them

1112
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:52,199
to in most cases take over and guide the politics

1113
01:11:52,279 --> 01:11:54,560
and even take over the politics of that country. I mean,

1114
01:11:55,079 --> 01:12:01,680
Biden's cabinet was seventy percent Jewish. Yeah, okay, two percent

1115
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,640
of the population. Okay, you can I've heard the argument,

1116
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,439
Oh well, most Jews live around cities. Okay, well they don't,

1117
01:12:08,199 --> 01:12:13,560
not Washington, Dcy. Well, you're not going to convince me

1118
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,479
that happened organically. You're not going to convince me that

1119
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,560
the best person got the job, and you're not You're

1120
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,760
definitely not going to convince me after four years of

1121
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:28,079
Biden's cabinet being seventy percent that they're very successful. Because

1122
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:32,560
if you think that that was a success and that

1123
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,399
I'm jealous and I'm only talking about them because I'm

1124
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:40,680
jealous of their success, Yeah, No, that's not it.

1125
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: That's not it.

1126
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: The fact. Maybe it was the fact that Merrick Garland

1127
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:53,479
was not targeting blacks breaking into you know, doing you know,

1128
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,119
those whole gang things where they went into San Francisco

1129
01:12:56,199 --> 01:12:59,439
businesses and stole just the right amount of route so

1130
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:04,359
they didn't get arrested. Now, it didn't charge he didn't

1131
01:13:04,399 --> 01:13:07,720
concentrate on them. He concentrated on little old ladies who

1132
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,439
are Catholic who are praying outside of abortion clinics, or

1133
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:17,800
who did sit ins and abortion clinics. Yeah, it seems

1134
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:23,039
like there's an animosity there. Or people whose families historically

1135
01:13:23,079 --> 01:13:27,359
come from Palist settlement, which is Ukraine, who have insinuated

1136
01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:32,199
themselves into the government and then push for war with Russia,

1137
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,920
their sworn enemy for centuries.

1138
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,359
Speaker 2: Centuries, maybe going back to seven hundred.

1139
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:43,119
Speaker 1: Actually, So it's like, I don't know, maybe there's a

1140
01:13:43,239 --> 01:13:46,640
conflict of interest there. I don't know, I don't know.

1141
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:55,880
Maybe I'm just jealous. Yeah, you know, I mean it's

1142
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,760
like I'm sorry, you know, I'm I know where I'm

1143
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:02,119
know where my family came from in the Old Country.

1144
01:14:03,079 --> 01:14:06,600
I'm a fucking American. This is all I got. Yes,

1145
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,840
I want to leave this place better than you know,

1146
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,800
than I found it. I was you know, I was

1147
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:16,600
born into the Vietnam War era, and then I went

1148
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,439
through the Cold War era and in the nineties, which

1149
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,680
was a fucking that what a lot of people like

1150
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,640
to say it was a Golden Age, which was a

1151
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,119
horror show, you know, in a lot of in a

1152
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:31,159
lot of places. And then you have the grow I've known, well,

1153
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:34,840
I've known my whole life is war, and you know,

1154
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,720
and and a lot of it is war for this

1155
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,560
one certain group, right, I just want I'd like to

1156
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,920
see a little bit of that change before I die.

1157
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm doing it, I guess at personal peril and perhaps

1158
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:56,560
against self interest in some sense, but I felt the temperature. Frankly,

1159
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,479
I felt the temperature out there, and I thought, there's

1160
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,000
going to be a lot of support for this. I mean,

1161
01:15:03,039 --> 01:15:05,359
I'm already getting people like where do I get? Where

1162
01:15:05,399 --> 01:15:08,279
do I donate? How do I donate? There like hundreds

1163
01:15:08,279 --> 01:15:10,960
of people saying how do I donate? You know, we

1164
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
don't have that set up yet, but we're getting there,

1165
01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:17,359
and so I think there's a huge ground swell. The

1166
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,399
question is will they try to destroy well, they will

1167
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:24,279
try to destroy it, will they succeed? And do we

1168
01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:29,079
have the collective power to counter this if you know,

1169
01:15:29,119 --> 01:15:32,520
we don't. We're not the billionaire class. You know, they've

1170
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,600
got a lot of the billionaires, most of them, so

1171
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,439
you know, their funds are unlimited. But we do have

1172
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,359
a pool of resources that we can that we can

1173
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,840
work from. And I think that's what we're going to

1174
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,800
have to do. And then there are some very rich

1175
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,800
people that will also be interested.

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Speaker 1: I think, well, you know, that's that's the way these

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01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,600
things work. You know, the only thing you have to

1178
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,159
worry about then you have to worry you about things

1179
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:07,520
becoming managerial. And yeah, I've never I've never started a pack,

1180
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,680
never started a party, but you know, I've watched a

1181
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,560
pack work. I've watched a pack evolve. And one of

1182
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,600
the things that one of the problems I had watching

1183
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,640
that pack evolve was when it got to the point

1184
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:25,199
where they could hire their first person full time. Yeah, there,

1185
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,319
then their main focus became how do we get a

1186
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:29,680
second person hired from?

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01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, growth of the of the institution, Yeah, there's that.

1188
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:34,279
There's that.

1189
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Speaker 1: It is James Burnham, the managerial revolution.

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 2: Exactly. There is the you know, there is this thing

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:51,520
about all institutions have a kind of intrinsic imperative to

1192
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:56,039
expand and grow, and that is something definitely to watch

1193
01:16:56,079 --> 01:16:59,800
out for. And I'm not interested in making that we're

1194
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,359
going toization itself so big. I want to have its

1195
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,119
impact be really outsized in comparison to the amount of

1196
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:12,560
people that are actually doing it well.

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Speaker 1: One of the one of the other pitfalls is is

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that when you start out, when you start out with

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an organization that's highly ideological, unless it stays ideological, you know,

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01:17:28,039 --> 01:17:31,920
there's that. I think it's O Sullivan's law that any

1201
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:35,199
organization that doesn't start out explicitly right wing moves to

1202
01:17:35,239 --> 01:17:41,319
the left eventually. Right that I think is I think

1203
01:17:41,359 --> 01:17:45,640
that's you can also say that any anyone that doesn't

1204
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,520
start out with the intention of sticking to its focus

1205
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:55,479
and being laser focused on one issue, then they have

1206
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,560
they're going to become managerial after a while.

1207
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolute. And along those lines, I was thinking

1208
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:10,880
that we're going to stay ideological for sure. And the

1209
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,640
question I did have is, and I'm still pondering it,

1210
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,119
as like there's a lot of leftists that are interested

1211
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:24,359
as well, because this is one issue amongst around which

1212
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,920
the left so called and the right actually could unite,

1213
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,960
and that is around the question of Zion's influence. Of course,

1214
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,960
if you push it in another direction or more explicit language,

1215
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,439
that's it for them, the left, they would be out,

1216
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:46,520
you know. But I think it's possible to actually have

1217
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:53,479
some impact, not impact from them, but to have some support. Well,

1218
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,239
they're not going to run the show. I can tell

1219
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:56,079
you that, and we're not done.

1220
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,399
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to say. I was

1221
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,279
going to say, they can help out with my money

1222
01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:03,800
all they want, but you cannot allow them to You

1223
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,079
can't allow them in the door. No, because they will

1224
01:19:07,119 --> 01:19:10,079
take over and they will it will be a leftist organization.

1225
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be left just and before you know that,

1226
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,199
they're going to do the domestic prong of what this

1227
01:19:15,319 --> 01:19:19,039
elite group wants. They'll they'll be focused on that. You know,

1228
01:19:20,079 --> 01:19:25,399
they're fine with the domestic prong of of you know,

1229
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,840
this Jewish billionaire class. But then you know, the only

1230
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,760
thing they object to is the is the military aspect

1231
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:33,079
of it.

1232
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: Right Ah, But I'm no problem. They have no problem

1233
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,520
with the cultural You know that the World Jewish you

1234
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,159
know videos that the World Jewish Congress UH brag about

1235
01:19:46,199 --> 01:19:50,960
how they're responsible for feminism and the gay rights movement

1236
01:19:51,239 --> 01:19:54,520
and the Civil Rights Act and all these things. They

1237
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,319
have no problem with those things. Well, those things are

1238
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,439
those things need to be addressed as well.

1239
01:20:00,039 --> 01:20:00,159
Speaker 2: You know.

1240
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: It's like Dennis Prager. It's like Dennis Prager has said,

1241
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:09,279
except for Nazism, every other ism was completely was run

1242
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,840
overwhelmingly by Jews. And when I when I found a

1243
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,039
Time of Times of Israel article that said that when

1244
01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:21,800
Mao was setting up his terror regime, that eighty percent

1245
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,159
of the volunteers were Jewish, and at Times of Israel

1246
01:20:25,279 --> 01:20:29,800
ran this article, I'm like, I'm like, I just don't

1247
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,079
I don't even know what to say.

1248
01:20:32,279 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 2: I wrote about that in my book The Great Reset

1249
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,840
and the Struggle for Liberty, about all the the Jewish

1250
01:20:38,199 --> 01:20:46,359
uh uh intellectuals, if you know, put it generously, we're

1251
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,359
very you know, surrounding Mau. It was it was a

1252
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:56,600
shipload of Jewish, of Jewish people, I mean from uh well,

1253
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,680
I don't want to get into the names, but because

1254
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,680
there's too many, and I don't remember many of them,

1255
01:21:02,399 --> 01:21:07,680
but I remember some Josh Shapiro and some others. And

1256
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:13,279
then there and then I found an article bragging about

1257
01:21:13,319 --> 01:21:17,680
this by a Jewish scholar written in an academic journal.

1258
01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:21,479
I love finding things like that. That excites me to

1259
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:27,279
no end whenever they you find this stuff in academic journals,

1260
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:32,000
right where they're trying to disguise things. Largely here they

1261
01:21:32,039 --> 01:21:36,600
are bragging about the impact of Jewish people on Miles regime,

1262
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,840
and you know how basically they started the They did

1263
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,520
all a lot of the propaganda around the Great Leap

1264
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:51,119
Forward and around the Cultural Revolution and stuff like that.

1265
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:55,279
So yeah, that was pretty surprising.

1266
01:21:55,359 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: Of course, I.

1267
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 2: Didn't go out of my way in that book to say,

1268
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,680
look at all these Jews. I just listed their names

1269
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,000
and showed what and what their functions were, you know,

1270
01:22:05,279 --> 01:22:08,000
and let the people, let the readers put it together.

1271
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:09,439
But the.

1272
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:20,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot. I was gonna say, yeah, no, it's yeah.

1273
01:22:20,239 --> 01:22:24,199
I think one of the Guggenheim's daughters was over there

1274
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,920
helping with that. She had actually left Manhattan to go

1275
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,439
help with that. And it's like and you're like, okay, well,

1276
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,439
why why are you at the why are you at

1277
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,680
the head of every one of these everyone you know?

1278
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:40,600
He you know, and Prager said Bolshevism. He said, overwhelmingly Jews,

1279
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,079
And I mean I'm reading Soulshanis since two hundred years

1280
01:22:43,079 --> 01:22:47,119
together on the on the show right now. Yeah, we're going, yeah,

1281
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:48,880
we're going through all of that. I mean, it's like,

1282
01:22:50,279 --> 01:22:53,680
come on, let's yeah, you can't. You're not even allowed

1283
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,680
to bring this up unless you're celebrating it. Yeah. What

1284
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,439
I was going to say was, you know, one of

1285
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,760
the oldest, uh Jewish newspapers in the country is called

1286
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,399
The Forward, and now they're online they're called the Daily Forward.

1287
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:09,159
And every once in a while you'll just read a

1288
01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:12,119
headline and you'll be like, are you kidding me? You know,

1289
01:23:12,359 --> 01:23:16,359
they'll have like they've they've actually had headlines where they

1290
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:19,840
said it's anti semitic, it's an anti Semitic conspiracy theory

1291
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,439
to say that Jews control banking. And then like a

1292
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,640
year later they'll do an article celebrating how Jews control banking,

1293
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,439
and and there's this there's this game you play where

1294
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,199
it's like, okay, is this headline from the Daily Forward

1295
01:23:34,359 --> 01:23:41,199
or the Daily Stormer, because you're like, you're like, if

1296
01:23:41,239 --> 01:23:44,239
you want to create, if you want to create anti Semites,

1297
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:50,760
put out articles like this that people read exactly. I mean,

1298
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,640
come on, guys, at least talk about it. What is

1299
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,840
what has caused this? What has caused this revolutionary spirit?

1300
01:23:58,319 --> 01:24:00,039
You know that e. Michael Jones, you know has.

1301
01:24:00,039 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 2: Book called about that extensively.

1302
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what is it? Where to come from?

1303
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 2: How?

1304
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: How did it happen? What do you think it's been

1305
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,479
good for the world? But no, you're not allowed to

1306
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,520
have these these discussions are not allowed to happen because

1307
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:21,079
you know Germany. Yeah, that must be that must be

1308
01:24:21,079 --> 01:24:22,319
fun for you being a German.

1309
01:24:23,399 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get I got a kind of a

1310
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,239
double whammy with that, and I get that all the time.

1311
01:24:29,359 --> 01:24:32,399
Look look at your last name. He looked like, you know,

1312
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,279
Nazi uh, you know Stormtrooper's name or a Nazi uh

1313
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:42,119
propaganda's name and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean that

1314
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:46,079
was a little bit of an extra jeopardy there. But

1315
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:48,399
I don't care.

1316
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: All right, man, I'm gonna let you go. We've been

1317
01:24:52,039 --> 01:24:59,439
We can sit here fetching all night. But but I

1318
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,039
think I think you're supposed to just like imply the

1319
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:06,800
k a little bit. Yeah yeah, but when are you

1320
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,479
going to have a site up for this? Should I

1321
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,359
just direct people to your Twitter Twitter account right now?

1322
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,359
Speaker 2: Or what I want to direct them to the Twitter.

1323
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:15,640
But we'll have a site up by next week, early

1324
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,359
next week. It'll be a U as a pack that's

1325
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,800
a z A dash pack dot com, a z A

1326
01:25:24,079 --> 01:25:28,279
dot dashpack dot dot com. We try to get as

1327
01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:31,720
apack dot org. And it's forty six thousand dollars, which

1328
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,039
is not something we can afford right now.

1329
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well yeah, even if you could afford that, I'd say,

1330
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:38,960
don't do it.

1331
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, distortion.

1332
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but all right, and where can people get your

1333
01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:48,359
books and stuff? I mean, yeah, what's funny? What's funny is?

1334
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,439
I wanted I wanted to mention this in the beginning

1335
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,319
when when Michael was talking about being a professor at NYU.

1336
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,720
But how many books did you write as a professor?

1337
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 2: Oh well, I wrote about eight books as a professor,

1338
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:06,000
and I've written six since then. Speaking of which, my

1339
01:26:06,119 --> 01:26:09,479
last book is maybe interesting for your readers. It's called

1340
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:13,800
the for your listeners, it's called The Cabal Question, and

1341
01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:17,399
it's a piece of fiction. It's a novel. I think

1342
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,920
it's good. A lot of people like it, but it's

1343
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,560
you know, of course I haven't promoted it that much,

1344
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,720
but uh, yeah, I've written fourteen books. You can get

1345
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,039
all that on my website, Michael rectinwall dot com.

1346
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, all right man, all right, thank you and

1347
01:26:37,159 --> 01:26:37,920
I'll talk to you later.

1348
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,159
Speaker 2: Take care, okay, take care man, Nice talking to you.

1349
01:26:40,319 --> 01:26:40,680
Bye bye