WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:11.039 You are now listening to True Murder, The most shocking 2 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:14.160 killers in true crime history and the authors that have 3 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:21.519 written about them. Gaesy Bundy Dahmer The Nightstalker VTK Every 4 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:25.280 week another fascinating author talking about the most shocking and 5 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.559 infamous killers in true crime history. True Murder with your 6 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:33.359 host journalist and author Dan Zufanski. 7 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:40.119 Good Evening. 8 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:44.560 The true story of a trailblazing detective search for a 9 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:49.479 beautiful college co ed who vanished without a trace In 10 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:53.759 nineteen eighty one. Detective k Shocker was the lead investigator 11 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:57.719 in the high profile missing person's case of Old Dominion 12 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:04.239 University student Janis. The beautiful co ed disappeared without a 13 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:10.000 trace from Old Dominion University's Norfolk, Virginia campus. As Kay 14 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:15.040 studied the diary going several years back, she learned that Janis, 15 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.040 a U S. Army veteran, had faced the same challenges 16 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.359 in the military that Kay did in law enforcement. They 17 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:28.319 were both women trying to succeed in a man's world. 18 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:34.359 Feeling a kinship towards Janis, Kay became consumed with unraveling 19 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:39.680 the mystery of Janis's disappearance and possible death. As the 20 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:44.560 investigation unfolded, Kay began to suspect that Janie had an 21 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:50.079 affair with her rotc professor at Old Dominion University, Army 22 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:55.400 Captain Dwight Bettingfield, a well respected family man married with 23 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.959 three kids. Kay was warned by superiors to tread life 24 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:04.640 in her investigation of Bettingfield and cautioned not to dig 25 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:09.280 too deeply, But she soon uncovered a life insurance scheme 26 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.960 and discovered that Janie had been assigned a series of 27 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:19.319 dangerous tasks by Captain Bettingfield. Did these circumstances play a 28 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:24.400 role in Janie's demise? Was the highly regarded betting Field 29 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.400 actually a killer? If so, what did he do with 30 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:33.759 Janie's remains? The book that we're featuring this evening is 31 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:38.599 In the Wind, The Disappearance of Janice Starr, with my 32 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:46.719 special guest, journalist, lecturer and author, Ron Peterson Junior. Welcome 33 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.840 back to the program, and thank you very much for 34 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.479 this interview. Ron Peterson Junior. 35 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:54.759 Well, thank you, Dan, it's great to be with you again. 36 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:56.719 I appreciate you having me on your podcast. 37 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.560 Thank you so much, and congratulations on your late in 38 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:01.080 the Wind. 39 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.960 Well, I appreciate it. I'm excited to talk with you 40 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:05.759 about it today. 41 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.479 You take us to the summer of nineteen eighty one 42 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:16.000 and Virginia Beach. Let's talk about Janis Starr and her 43 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.719 background in her life and a little bit about Virginia Beach. 44 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.280 Sure, that's a great place to start. Dan Janis Starr, 45 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.479 who is the victim in this case that we'll talk about, 46 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:33.800 was born in nineteen fifty eight in the New York 47 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.439 City area. At an early age, her parents divorced, her 48 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:41.919 mother remarried, and the family moved to Miami, which obviously 49 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:45.319 was a big change from New York City. Jane spent 50 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:50.000 her formidable years there in Miami. You can could certainly 51 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:52.960 look up pictures of her again. It was Janis Starr 52 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:57.240 last named Sta r R. Very attractive young lady. She 53 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:01.560 enjoyed the beach lifestyle in Myami and South Beach in 54 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.199 that area, lived not far from the ocean, and certainly 55 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.800 had the look of someone who was from the beach. Janice, 56 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.199 and she enjoyed the night life like a lot of 57 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.840 young people back in the late nineteen seventies when she 58 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.839 was in high school and when she graduated from high school, 59 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.879 her parents, who were affluent, they offered to pay for 60 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.480 the expenses of her college. They said, you know, she 61 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.360 could go to college as long as she stayed enrolled 62 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:31.000 and made good grades, they would fit the bill. Janis, though, 63 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.040 did not want to go to college. She was more 64 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:37.439 of an independent person and decided to enter the US Army. 65 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.399 And again, this was the late seventies, This was about 66 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.639 nineteen seventy eight, and that was an unconventional choice for 67 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.319 a woman back in that day. You know, the army 68 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.560 then and you could say and now, but certainly especially 69 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:54.240 back then. You know, it was a man's world, and 70 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.959 she was a woman who you know, wanted to join 71 00:04:58.000 --> 00:04:59.600 the army and try to try to make it in 72 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:03.720 a man world. She was encouraged by the possibility of 73 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.959 duty stations in foreign countries. 74 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:08.959 You know, getting out and being able to travel. 75 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.800 And see the world. And was also a patriot. She 76 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.360 wanted to wanted to serve her country. You know, there 77 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.959 was not an active war or any type of conflict 78 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:21.120 at that time, but she felt that service to her 79 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.959 country and the opportunity to travel and see the world 80 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.120 was really the best thing for her at that time. 81 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.439 And she'd take you know, three or four years try 82 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.000 to figure things out. Decide what she wanted to do 83 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:33.839 with the rest of her life, and then at that 84 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.480 point she'd be prepared to go to college. So that's 85 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:39.120 exactly what she did. And in her early years she 86 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.600 was stationed at Fayeteville, North Carolina, which you know, as 87 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:45.240 you know, there's a big army base. It was called 88 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.560 Fort Bragg then Jannis encountered, you know, like I guess, 89 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.360 like a lot of women, certainly now, but especially back 90 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:55.480 in the late seventies, a great deal of discrimination and harassment. 91 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:55.879 You know. 92 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.639 She, as I said, she was attractive even even in 93 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:01.600 army fatigues and her hair tucked under her cap, but 94 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.079 she had a lot of challenges with that and was 95 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.959 was certainly a bit discouraged by that. She finally had 96 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.959 the chance to travel internationally when she was stationed at 97 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.399 a at a joint Army Air Force base in South Korea, 98 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.879 and she'd moved there, and it was there that she 99 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.160 met the woman that would become her best friend. Her 100 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.720 name and we're going to use a pseudonym for her 101 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:23.879 name for privacy reasons, as I did in the book. 102 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:28.160 Her name is Paula Matteo, and paul and Janie pretty 103 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.839 quickly they were you know, they were soulmates, they were 104 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.800 best friends. They had a lot in common. They both 105 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:37.319 enjoyed the night life in South Korea, you know, navigating 106 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:41.360 the foreign land and although the certainly the military base 107 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:44.800 and US soldiers had a strong presence there, but spent 108 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.279 a lot of time together. And Paula was sort of 109 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:49.319 a sort of a mentor to Janie. She was a 110 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.000 bit older, a bit more worldly, and provide a lot 111 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.600 of guidance for Janice, not only you know, with dating 112 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.480 and romance and things like that, but also career wise. 113 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.959 Paula was some really had her stuff together. She had 114 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.399 earned a bachelor's degree while she was on duty, and 115 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:08.759 she planned on attending law school once she separated from 116 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:13.199 the military. Janie decided, you know that she was, that 117 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.959 it was about time to pursue her college degree. By then, 118 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.839 she'd been in the army for three years, and Paula 119 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:24.160 and Janie together decided to move to the Washington, d C. Area, 120 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:28.920 to Metropolitan d C in the US, where Paula could 121 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.959 attend law school and Janice could attend undergraduate and work 122 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.560 on getting her bachelor's degree. 123 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:35.000 So that's what they did. 124 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.079 They lived in the northern Virginia area of Alexandria, just 125 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:42.279 outside Washington, d C. It was there that Janie met 126 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.439 the man who was probably the love of her life. 127 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.439 His name was Randy, and she quickly fell in love 128 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:50.920 with Randy and decided she wanted to spend the rest 129 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:51.839 of her life with him. 130 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:53.800 And he lived down in. 131 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:58.279 What we call in Virginia the Hampton Roads area, also 132 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:02.160 known as Tidewater, which is an area metropolitan area that 133 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:07.319 consists of cities like Virginia Beach, Norfolk, Williamsburg, Newport News. 134 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.120 If you're familiar with those cities, yes, So. 135 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:14.279 She moved down there and really liked Virginia Beach, you know, 136 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:16.639 in some ways it reminded her of the beaches of Miami. 137 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.759 She and Randy began to settle down. They moved in together. 138 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.839 Jannis found a college down there that really fit. 139 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:24.680 Her needs very well. 140 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:29.079 It was called Old Dominion University or ODU, and back 141 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:32.080 then it was sort of a small, growing college, a 142 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.559 lot of folks mostly from Virginia. Now it's a full 143 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:38.639 fledged university and much bigger. But she really liked the 144 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.720 atmosphere in the vibe at Old Dominion University, so she 145 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.559 enrolled in classes there, and this would have been in 146 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:47.759 the fall of nineteen eighty one. Again, she was living 147 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:51.240 with her boyfriend Randy and Jennis had by then she 148 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.440 had shed left active duty with the Army, but she 149 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.919 was still in the Army reserves. So she was serving 150 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.840 the US Army one weekend a month on duty and 151 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.080 then also, you know, would train for a few weeks 152 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.960 in the summer months. And then in addition to that, 153 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.480 she joined the ROTC program at Old Domnyan University, that's 154 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:16.120 the Reserve Officers Training Corps. And her goal was to 155 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.240 graduate with a bachelor's degree from Old Dominion University and 156 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.879 then rejoined the Army, and at that point she'd be 157 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:25.320 an officer and you know, would have a lot more 158 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:29.159 opportunity there and probably not face as many challenges as 159 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.279 she did as a young enlisted person. So as of 160 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:35.639 the fall of nineteen eighty one, that's that's what was 161 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.279 going on in Janas Stars World. 162 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:44.240 You say that she started classes August thirty first, and 163 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:48.679 within a few days the relationship that she felt was 164 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:53.159 her forever love had changed. Tell us about the letters 165 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.159 that she received when she got home from classes. 166 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:00.360 One day, It sure did, Dan, Yeah, one day early 167 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.559 in the school year, she came home to the apartment 168 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.840 she shared with her boyfriend Randy, and he was not there. 169 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:08.639 There was a there was a note on the on 170 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:12.399 the counter, and the note said, you know, Janie, I'm sorry, 171 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:15.519 I've gone back to you know, to patch things up 172 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.120 with my wife. I'm you know, I've left you. I've 173 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.240 moved back to New York. I mean, I'm sorry that 174 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.080 this that it ended like this, and I wish you well. 175 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:27.559 And as you'd imagine, Janis was crushed, you know. She 176 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.200 one of the things about it, she did not realize 177 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.919 that he was married. At the time, he was separated 178 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:36.320 from his wife. He was probably planning on getting a divorce, 179 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:39.000 but then, you know, then had had second thoughts and 180 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.919 wanted to reconcile with his wife, which was why he left. 181 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:45.159 So you can imagine how devastated Janie was. She was 182 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.480 she was actually twenty three years old at the time. 183 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:49.879 I guess I didn't mention her age, but you know, 184 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:51.639 here was someone she'd wanted to spend the rest of 185 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.720 her life with, and so she felt, you know, not 186 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.600 only was she upset, but she felt like she'd been 187 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:01.840 you know, been used, making man her matters worse. Janie 188 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.480 was also in a bit of a financial pickle. She 189 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:07.879 had in moving a lot of the paychecks she was 190 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:11.200 received from the Army of Reserves with her change of address, 191 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.720 she did not received them yet. Rent was due. She 192 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.279 was flat broke, and she was counting on Randy to 193 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.279 help her pay the rent. 194 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:20.360 And split the bills. 195 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.879 And not only had had he left her, but he 196 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.480 had taken some cash she kept around in savings I 197 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.440 mentioned in the book, but I believe it was around 198 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:33.200 five hundred dollars and took her favorite camera as well. 199 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:36.200 So Janie was at that point. 200 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:38.200 She was just she had just hit rock bottom. You 201 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:39.799 can imagine how devastated she. 202 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:46.320 Was, absolutely you say that. Two days after Randy left her, 203 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.960 which was September fourth, nineteen eighty one, Janie had a 204 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:55.519 meeting scheduled with her academic advisor, a Captain Dwight betting Field, 205 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:01.200 and he was also her military science professor, and Captain 206 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:04.879 Benningfield was thirty five years old, tall, fit and handsome. 207 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.080 Tell us about this initial meeting between. 208 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.279 Them exactly Dan and as I described in my book 209 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:14.519 in the Wind. So Janics goes into this meeting again, 210 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:18.799 she's at rock Bottom as just devastated. You described Captain 211 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:21.799 Bettingfield very well. He was thirty five years old, a 212 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:26.879 family man, married with actually three kids. He was a 213 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.440 career army officer. His background he was originally from the Norfolk, 214 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.840 Virginia area where Old Dominion University is located. So he 215 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.399 was what we call a local boy done good in 216 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.159 these parts in Virginia. He had attended Marie High School 217 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:46.639 in Norfolk and then attended Old Dominion University and entered 218 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:49.080 active duty in the army and was an Army captain 219 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.360 and had had served his country very well, had a 220 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.519 tour of duty in Europe. I had spent time at 221 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:59.080 an army base in Turkey, was very well thought of. 222 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:04.320 About a year prior to nineteen eighty one, the ROTC 223 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:08.000 job opened up for him to be the assistant director 224 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:10.320 of the ROTC program, or what they'd call in the 225 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:13.639 Army the EXO, as the number two man in charge 226 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.480 of this ROTC unit which had which had a few 227 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.320 hundred students in it at that time. The job was, 228 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.000 you know, by by all observations, it was a perfect 229 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:22.799 fit for him. 230 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:24.000 You know, he liked it. 231 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.120 He was a good example for the students, you know, 232 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:29.159 it would appear. It's important though too. You know, he 233 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.039 was Dwight Bettingfield was someone straight out of Central casting. 234 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:36.120 He was tall, was about six', two, square jog, guy you, 235 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.799 know obviously clean, cut a nice looking, guy well, spoken 236 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.240 had a commanding presence and certainly you, know could communicated 237 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:48.399 and articulated his thoughts very. Well so he was he 238 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.159 was an authority. Figure as you, said he Was janis's academic, 239 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.519 advisor which in college is someone who they provide you 240 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.320 guidance on what courses to take and how to prepare 241 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:03.320 yourself for your. Career but in a military, environment in 242 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:07.200 THE rtc environment as it was there In, odu the 243 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:10.360 advisors also also gave a lot of life advice and 244 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:14.200 things like financial, advice and you, know really provided a 245 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.360 lot of guidance to the cadets who were in their 246 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:19.080 command that were. Students so she went that day for 247 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:22.080 a meeting with. Him, yes And, DAN i can get 248 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.240 into what happened in that meeting or if you want 249 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.120 to hold back on, that you, know, whatever you, Think. 250 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:32.039 WELL i think it's important for to establish what exactly 251 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.919 what advice he did give. Her, Specifically he also noticed 252 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.240 that there's something, Wrong so he asked, her please tell 253 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:44.679 me what is. Wrong so what does she tell? Him 254 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:49.080 and what does this financial advisement end up? 255 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:49.360 Being? 256 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:54.519 Exactly dan about five minutes into their, Meeting, janice who's 257 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:57.759 an emotional wreck at that, time broke down and let 258 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:00.039 me take a step back for quick second and, say you, 259 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.080 know a lot of these things we're talking about as 260 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:05.559 if we were, there because in a way we. Were 261 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.519 janice was a very meticulous journal, keeper and she kept 262 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.240 a diary with with great detail on what she was 263 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:17.440 doing in her daily. Activities and excuse, me in addition to, 264 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:21.200 that she sent. Letters you, KNOW i mentioned her Friend Paula. 265 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.879 Matteo she And paula this was pre internet and phone 266 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:27.799 calls were prohibitively expensive back. Then you, know there weren't 267 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.360 cell phones in nineteen eighty one as we know them. 268 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.559 Now so they wrote each other, letters and a big 269 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.559 part of their, letters you, know these were, long multi 270 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.720 page letters that you, know told a lot of what 271 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:40.159 they did that, day what they were, feeling you, know 272 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:44.360 why they did the things they. Did and those letters Of, 273 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:47.000 janice's which we'll get, into you, know and as well 274 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.960 as her, diary you, know were later. Found so when 275 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.000 we WHEN i talk about some of these, things AND 276 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.200 i talk about them as if they were, certainty because 277 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:57.919 that's the way she described. It so going back to 278 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.480 her meeting With Dwight, bettingfield you, know right away she 279 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.080 she broke down and she was she was upset and you, 280 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.480 know kind of sobbing during the, meeting and of, course you, 281 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:08.879 know he, said what what's, Wrong janis you, know something's, 282 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:10.799 wrong and she, said, oh don't worry about, it and he, said, 283 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.000 no please tell. Me you know there's ANYTHING i can 284 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.080 do to help, You i'll you, know glad to do. 285 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:19.200 It and he seemed to be really sympathetic. Person so she, 286 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:22.240 explained you, know what had happened with her, relationship how 287 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.000 upset she, was and then also explained her financial position to. 288 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:28.120 Him you, know that she was she was an independent 289 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:32.639 person and that just through this set of, circumstances you, 290 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:35.159 know she was she was, broken had bills do and so. 291 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:38.600 Forth Betting, field you, know he consoled, her you, know 292 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.240 spoke to her in a very sympathetic, fashion and loaned 293 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:44.919 her some money to get her through the next few, 294 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:46.840 days you, know and take care of take care of 295 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:47.919 some bills. 296 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:48.799 She paid back the. 297 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.600 Loan then the next day he called to check on, 298 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:55.360 her you, know just next day was A, saturday to. 299 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.200 See if she was doing. Okay she said she. 300 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:00.360 Was and then to her, surprise he's, that you, know 301 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.679 would you would you like to go get some? Pizza 302 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.720 and she said. Sure so they, did you, know he 303 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.599 crossed that. Line and in terms of seeing one of 304 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:12.519 his students, socially you, know there's also the fraternization thing 305 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:14.720 if you're in the. Military you, know he's an, officer 306 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:17.519 she was one of the people in his. Command they 307 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.240 met for lunch and then you, know we can get 308 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.960 into that part in a. Bit going back to your, Question, 309 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:26.920 Dan i'm SORRY i varied from. That but so in the, 310 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:30.319 meeting he provided her with some financial advice and a 311 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.000 lot of it was basic. Things he went over her 312 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.119 bills and what she, was you, know how much money 313 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.559 she was, making how much tuition, was what other bills she, 314 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:41.680 had you, know kind of went over that in a 315 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.920 ledger and made some recommendations To janice in terms of her. 316 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.359 Banking there was a credit union on campus that served 317 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.640 a financial institution that specialized in serving members of the. 318 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.720 Military there was several big military bases near near In. 319 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.160 Norfolk there so she. 320 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.160 Followed that, advice and then in subsequent meetings he told 321 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.160 her that it would be a good idea for her 322 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.079 to take out a life insurance. Policy and she, said you, know, 323 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.200 Hey I'm Captain, Bettingfield i'm twenty. Three why WOULD i 324 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.960 take out a life insurance? Policy he, said, well two. 325 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.880 Reasons one will it will improve your credit and two 326 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:22.799 the type of insurance life Insurance i'd recommend is also an. 327 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.559 Investment it's a financial. Instrument it's an investment that will help, 328 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.799 you you, know accumulate more. Money being, young it's a 329 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:33.160 perfect time to do. It so he kind of sold 330 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.400 the idea to her of buying a life insurance, policy 331 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:40.240 just like an insurance salesman would. Do and when it 332 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:42.000 came time for her to do, that she went to 333 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.720 a financial or financial institution came to her CALLED usaa 334 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.880 that's still around, now and she took out over three 335 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.480 hundred thousand dollars in life insurance at his. Recommendation you, 336 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:54.880 know he'd been so nice to help her and now 337 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.799 was nice enough to give her financial. Advice and when 338 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.279 it came time for her to list the beneficiary on the. 339 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:04.039 Policy janice we talked about the fact that she was very, 340 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.119 independent so she, said you know, WHAT i don't want 341 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:09.599 to have my parents involved with. THIS i don't want 342 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.640 my mother and stepfather to be in my. Business she 343 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.839 didn't know who to put as the beneficiary for the 344 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:18.480 life insurance, policy And Captain bettingfield was, there and he, 345 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:21.240 said you know, what just put my. Name nothing will 346 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:23.440 ever happen to. You just put down me for the, 347 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:27.400 beneficiary kind of like an all shucks kind of, way 348 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.839 and that's exactly what she. Did so as of Early 349 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.200 september of nineteen eighty, One janis had over three hundred 350 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:38.880 thousand dollars in life insurance with the sole beneficiary was 351 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:40.839 doctor Or Captain Dwight. 352 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:44.559 Bettingfield let's use this as an opportunity to stop to 353 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:46.039 hear these messages. 354 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:48.240 Now you talk about. 355 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:53.559 That he advised, her just innocently that maybe she should 356 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:56.839 use this, instrument as he called, it this life, insurance 357 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:59.079 so she might be able to get a loan. Again 358 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.880 it was just a good thing for, her very innocent 359 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.079 to him being a beneficiary on this life insurance. Policy 360 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:12.200 but their relationship went beyond just advising and what originally 361 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:17.240 their role was what happened in the, Relationship, well it. 362 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:20.319 Sure, Did, dan as you, know AS i mentioned, earlier 363 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:23.240 right after they had their first, meeting he followed up 364 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:25.720 with a phone call. Tour they met on A saturday for. 365 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:30.119 Pizza things accelerated pretty quickly from. There one of the 366 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.920 things they did that first, Day Captain bettingfield also happened 367 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.039 to be a. Pilot he was a private pilot and 368 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.960 had his right pilot's. License so they went to an 369 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.880 airport located not far From Old Dominion university Called South Norfolk. 370 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.079 Airport it's no longer, there but it was right. Nearby 371 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.559 it was where as a kid he learned to. Fly 372 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.079 his father had been into aviation and he was able 373 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.599 to rent airplanes there for a pretty reasonable, price and 374 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.160 that was one of his main, hobbies was to you, 375 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.279 know to fly on the weekends and evenings when he 376 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:01.599 had a. Chance so he Took janice up in a, 377 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:05.559 plane a little little two seater private, plane took her 378 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.039 up and you, know flew her around the, area flew 379 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.720 out over the ocean that was, nearby and you can 380 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:14.359 imagine how Impressed janis. Was so that was JUST i 381 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:17.359 guess one of the interesting things he did in terms 382 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.119 of kicking off their relationship. Together before, long they were you, 383 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.960 know they were they were having sexual relations on a regular. 384 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:26.960 Basis they would, meet. 385 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:29.440 They'd, occasionally you, know go out on dates, together but 386 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.359 more often than, not it, was you, know a relationship of. 387 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:35.160 Convenience they would you, know they would meet typically at her. 388 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:37.839 Apartment you, know he was having sex with her on 389 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:41.240 a regular. Basis AS i, said he was married with two, 390 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.359 kids and she came to learn that his marriage, was you, 391 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.160 know was approaching the, end and that he was at 392 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.640 that time separated from his wife and keeping a separate 393 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.240 residence at an, apartment which was a fact that not 394 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.039 many people. Knew in, FACT i don't think just about 395 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:58.960 anyone At Old Dominion university was aware of. 396 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:00.359 That but that's the. 397 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.799 Point of his, life That Captain bettingfield was at it 398 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:05.559 at that point in. 399 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:08.039 Time you write. 400 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:11.680 That On september twenty, second nineteen eighty, One janis wrote 401 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.839