Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Joining us now is Alexandra. She has an organization Just
Speaker 2: the Inserts at just the Inserts dot com. You can
Speaker 2: also find her on Instagram under that name Just the Inserts,
Speaker 2: and also on x under that name as well. And
Speaker 2: I wanted to get her on because many of you
Speaker 2: know our family's history with us, and I think it
Speaker 2: is very important. We've seen what has happened to the
Speaker 2: medical community, and we need to take control of what
Speaker 2: goes into our body, and so there needs to be
Speaker 2: informed consent and that's what she is all about. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us, Alexandra.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on. It's a joy to
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
Speaker 2: You know, the listeners here know of the history of
Speaker 2: what has happened with my family. We just had our
Speaker 2: son was injured by what they call floxen, you know,
Speaker 2: some of the flora chloro quinns, and you know, going
Speaker 2: back to Cipro and when we went to another place
Speaker 2: where they had supplements, a drug story went in and
Speaker 2: Karen and I we were looking for a particular supplement
Speaker 2: that somebody had recommended to kind of counter that and
Speaker 2: the person behind the counter that was the pharmacist. There
Speaker 2: was wearing a mask, and the other person, you know,
Speaker 2: we told them, well, we're looking for this and said
Speaker 2: why are you looking for that? And said so we
Speaker 2: told them, and the other person that was there there
Speaker 2: was just kind of a helper, wasn't The pharmacist said,
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of the point where those inserts
Speaker 2: are so scary, I don't even want to read them.
Speaker 1: And I thought, Wow, that is the saddest.
Speaker 2: Thing I've ever seen, because you better believe that the
Speaker 2: stuff that is there is not only possible, but it
Speaker 2: was possible to such an extent that they put it
Speaker 2: in there to cover themselves. And so that's why I
Speaker 2: wanted to get you one to talk about just the inserts.
Speaker 2: How did you get involved in all of this? What's
Speaker 2: your background?
Speaker 3: Well, like you and probably most people listening today, personal
Speaker 3: experience with pharmaceutical injury. I was active duty military, and
Speaker 3: there are several times when I was serving that I
Speaker 3: had an adverse reaction, but it wasn't enough for me
Speaker 3: to dive too deep into finding the inserts. It was like, hmm, okay,
Speaker 3: I had a next brain and they gave me oxy
Speaker 3: cotton and I ended up having severe constipation. That's odd.
Speaker 3: And it was just little things trickling here and there
Speaker 3: while I was serving that made me start questioning the
Speaker 3: products that I was blindly accepting. And then when I
Speaker 3: became a mother, or when I became pregnant, I was
Speaker 3: starting to become more natural minded. And I was in
Speaker 3: my third trimester and the midwife handed me a one
Speaker 3: page sheet on the tea DAP vaccine, and I remember thinking,
Speaker 3: this is very odd. I cannot have most medications. I
Speaker 3: can't have raw cheese or milk or any of these
Speaker 3: other things, and yet an injection just didn't make sense
Speaker 3: for me. So I asked my mom to research it
Speaker 3: for me, and she researched it, and then when she
Speaker 3: came back to me a few days later, she had
Speaker 3: so much anxiety and urgency in her voice, almost as
Speaker 3: if I was standing on the edge of a cliff
Speaker 3: getting ready to jump off, and it actually really turned
Speaker 3: me off. She started sending me all of this information
Speaker 3: of saying I was going to die, my baby was
Speaker 3: going to die if I accept this product. So naturally,
Speaker 3: like any millennial, I went on Instagram and I started
Speaker 3: researching myself, and then I saw the other side, the
Speaker 3: other polarizing view that if I didn't accept this product,
Speaker 3: I was going to die and my baby was going
Speaker 3: to die. So I just felt that it was very polarizing.
Speaker 3: So because of who I am, I was trying to
Speaker 3: prove my mom wrong, and I wanted to just have
Speaker 3: what the government said about these products. I knew with
Speaker 3: my business background that every product on the market has
Speaker 3: to have some kind of legal documentation about the safety
Speaker 3: or effectiveness of that product. So I ended up finding
Speaker 3: the inserts, and as this was happening in parallel to
Speaker 3: me researching vaccines, I ended up having my daughter. I
Speaker 3: declined the B vaccine, I declined the eye ointment, but
Speaker 3: I had a forty four hour labor and it was
Speaker 3: very traumatic. So I ended up accepting the vitamin K,
Speaker 3: the synthetic vitamin K injection, because I was told it
Speaker 3: was just a vitamin K. It was just a vitamin. However,
Speaker 3: in hindsight, after reading the insert, there are other adverts
Speaker 3: or other ingredients, including benzel alcohol, which now there's an
Speaker 3: added warning box warning on the vitamin K insert that
Speaker 3: says it can cause gasping syndrome for infants and can
Speaker 3: be fatal. Of course I didn't know this at the time,
Speaker 3: so My daughter ended up becoming injured from the synthetic
Speaker 3: vitamin K and she had severe jaundice, she was collic,
Speaker 3: she had liver and gut issues. And I felt that
Speaker 3: the people that I had trusted, the people that I
Speaker 3: paid a lot of money to provide expert advice on,
Speaker 3: had not properly informed me of the potential known adverse
Speaker 3: reactions and risks that are on the FDA website that
Speaker 3: are on manufacture inserts. So I desperately was trying to
Speaker 3: find answers. I went to pdch trition after pediatrician, and
Speaker 3: every single time that I brought my daughter in, they
Speaker 3: were scolding me on not getting vaccines. And so here
Speaker 3: my daughter had already been injured by a pharmaceutical product,
Speaker 3: Why would I introduce in any more interventions, especially with
Speaker 3: what I had been researching on vaccine inserts, and so
Speaker 3: it just didn't make sense, and it made me dig
Speaker 3: my heels into the research. It made me start trying
Speaker 3: to find the answers. I don't have a medical background,
Speaker 3: so I was just going straight to the doc of
Speaker 3: resources because my thinking was, if the government says this
Speaker 3: about these products, if the manufacturer says this about these products,
Speaker 3: and you can't really fight with that. That's pretty black
Speaker 3: and white. So I started sharing on my personal Instagram
Speaker 3: and I got shadowed, ban and censored. I lost a
Speaker 3: lot of friends in that process just by sharing doc
Speaker 3: of information, and that to me was even more of
Speaker 3: a red flag. Why am I being so ostracized just
Speaker 3: for asking questions? So I ended up praying asking God.
Speaker 3: I remember distinctly, I was on my exer sized bike
Speaker 3: and I had tears in my eyes because I had
Speaker 3: read story after story of injury, not just from vaccines,
Speaker 3: but from all pharmaceuticals. And I asked God for guidance,
Speaker 3: and I said, send me Lord, I'm here, I will go.
Speaker 3: And then over the next few weeks, weeks and months
Speaker 3: after that, I started getting inspiration to start an account
Speaker 3: for just the inserts. And that's how it started. I
Speaker 3: started originally on Instagram. It grew so fast, so quickly.
Speaker 3: I had over one hundred and forty eight thousand followers
Speaker 3: on Instagram in just a few short months. And then
Speaker 3: a week before the COVID vaccine was mandated by the
Speaker 3: Vitamin Administration, I was deleted off of Instagram with no warning.
Speaker 3: After the fact, Meta told me in their blanket statement
Speaker 3: that the reason why I had been deleted was because
Speaker 3: of a dot of study that I had shared. So
Speaker 3: I was deleted off Instagram for sharing doc of information.
Speaker 3: But you know it was a blame because I was
Speaker 3: pregnant with my second child at that time, and I
Speaker 3: ended up realizing that I was spending nine hours a
Speaker 3: day posting and researching and it really wasn't good for
Speaker 3: my own personal mental health and physical health. So I
Speaker 3: was off Instagram for about eight months, and then, amazingly enough,
Speaker 3: for some reason, when Elon Musk bought Twitter, I was
Speaker 3: magically allowed to be back on Instagram that same day
Speaker 3: with the same username. All of my content had been wiped,
Speaker 3: but I was allowed to be back on so I
Speaker 3: slowly started rebuilding. And during that eight month process, I
Speaker 3: had started focusing on my website, realizing, despite what we're told,
Speaker 3: the Internet isn't forever, and starting to create more solid
Speaker 3: foundations for my research, saving it on high drives. Things
Speaker 3: like that. I got back on Instagram, rebuilt, rebuilt my website,
Speaker 3: and then this year, after having my third child, I
Speaker 3: realized I needed to put all this in a book.
Speaker 3: I needed to have a physical copy of all this
Speaker 3: research because it's so important for new parents, patients. Everyone
Speaker 3: needs to have informed consent, no matter your educational background,
Speaker 3: no matter where do you come from. You need to
Speaker 3: know what manufacturers say about their own products. You need
Speaker 3: to know what the government says about their own products
Speaker 3: or products on the market that they have approved and
Speaker 3: are regulating. You need to understand all that. And it's
Speaker 3: really hard. They've made it really complicated to find this information.
Speaker 3: So my goal is not to replace research, it's to
Speaker 3: streamline research. So everything that I put out on Instagram, website,
Speaker 3: emails is all cited. You can go find it yourself.
Speaker 3: And I just took step by step instructions or created
Speaker 3: step by step instructions on how to find and read
Speaker 3: manufacture inserts. And then in addition to that, most people
Speaker 3: were like, why do I need to read an insert?
Speaker 3: And just like your story, you said, the inserts are
Speaker 3: so scary, why do I need to be reading them?
Speaker 3: And really, the foundational element of all of this is
Speaker 3: informed consent. We deserve to have all the information that
Speaker 3: the government and manufacturers know about this product, at the
Speaker 3: very least to make well considered decisions for ourselves, for
Speaker 3: our families, and for our communities. And that's really why
Speaker 3: I continue to go today as I started with my
Speaker 3: own story, but what continue me to talk and advocate
Speaker 3: for other people as other people's stories. I even before
Speaker 3: we hopped on today, I was getting messages from people
Speaker 3: saying I was injured by this. I realized I was injured.
Speaker 3: How can I make more informed decisions in the future,
Speaker 3: And that's.
Speaker 1: Why I wrote a book And yeah, we have to
Speaker 1: we have to do our own research.
Speaker 2: I mean, the pharmacist isn't going to tell you. The
Speaker 2: doctor is not going to tell you. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I remember you talking about, you know, COVID
Speaker 2: and when that came in and when the hammer really
Speaker 2: dropped on people. I've had that experience as well, because
Speaker 2: I've pushed back against you know, the vaccines and the
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical in general, but specifically the vaccines. But I remember
Speaker 2: one person filming it, you know, had the camera running
Speaker 2: in their pocket and they were giving out the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 2: She said, I'd like to see the insert for that,
Speaker 2: and said, well, I don't know where that is. Well,
Speaker 2: could you get the pharmacist and tell him to come
Speaker 2: here so I could see the answer. They got the
Speaker 2: pharmacist and he says, I can't find it. This is
Speaker 2: really strange. You're supposed to be an insert for.
Speaker 3: This, and the reason why is because it was probably
Speaker 3: emergency youth authors that authorized. So I had pharmacists messaging
Speaker 3: me saying, there's no insert, or if there is an insert,
Speaker 3: it's a blank page. And so they do. They did
Speaker 3: have insert like information called a fact sheet, but even
Speaker 3: then it was completely bare at the start of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when you look at this stuff, especially
Speaker 2: when you start to try to as search it. You
Speaker 2: talked about in your story, somebody prescribes you something and
Speaker 2: I've gotten very careful about that, and so subsequent to
Speaker 2: my son's injury, we got a prescription for I don't
Speaker 2: even remember what it was for, but you know, I'm
Speaker 2: looking it up and it was, you know, something that
Speaker 2: was kind of innocuous and everything. But you go to
Speaker 2: web md and they'll just give you a regurgitation of
Speaker 2: what the pharmaceutical industry wants. You've got to almost go
Speaker 2: to and I'm glad to see that your site is up,
Speaker 2: because what I would do I would go to look
Speaker 2: up the term, and I would go to places where
Speaker 2: they're talking about it on Reddit or whatever, so that
Speaker 2: I can see what individuals experiences have been because the
Speaker 2: whole thing has been so covered up. It's absolutely amazing,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a federally funded study that identified only
Speaker 3: one percent of vaccine adverse reactions and just a little
Speaker 3: bit more of that. For all pharmaceuticals are reported in
Speaker 3: the passive surveillance system, and that's FAIRS for drugs, the
Speaker 3: FDA's Adverse Event Reaction System, and then VARs for vaccines
Speaker 3: the Vaccine Adverse Event Reaction System. And we probably all
Speaker 3: know we've heard about THEIRS. Yeah, because people were discrediting
Speaker 3: that after the code vaccines, almost as if it was
Speaker 3: just an office complaint box and that anybody could do
Speaker 3: a fraudulent report. However, if you go on to the
Speaker 3: vear's website, it has a disclaimer that you could be
Speaker 3: fined and put in jail if you put a fraudulent report.
Speaker 3: And the FDA and CDHHS andih they all speak to
Speaker 3: the importance of a passive surveillance system. So for any
Speaker 3: medical provider that is discrediting it, they're discrediting their own system,
Speaker 3: and I would caution them doing that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Yeah, So when you're dealing with your doctor,
Speaker 2: what kind of things should you say to your doctor
Speaker 2: in order to, you know, have a relationship with them
Speaker 2: to question what it is that they're giving to you.
Speaker 2: Let's start with that, with the doctor patient relationship.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I love it. So when you
Speaker 3: go into a doctor, you are seeking a service. They
Speaker 3: are providing expert advice based on the observations or any
Speaker 3: diagnostic tests or physical exams that they do in an appointment.
Speaker 3: So the first thing that you want to make sure
Speaker 3: when you go to a doctor is that you understand
Speaker 3: the diagnosis. About twenty percent of diagnoses are wrong in
Speaker 3: the United States, and so you just want to make
Speaker 3: sure first stup right out of the gate, that you
Speaker 3: agree with the diagnosis and that you are sure that
Speaker 3: the observations that you've communicated to the doctor have been
Speaker 3: taken into consideration, and that any observations that they may
Speaker 3: have for you or your childs you agree with. That's
Speaker 3: the first thing that you need to be aware of.
Speaker 3: And if you don't agree with that diagnosis, you have
Speaker 3: the right to say Okay, thank you for your expert advice,
Speaker 3: pay them for their time, and then go somewhere else
Speaker 3: and get a second opinion, and a third opinion and
Speaker 3: a fourth opinion. There's no limit on how many opinions
Speaker 3: you can get. That is the right as an informed
Speaker 3: consumer that you have when seeking healthcare as a service.
Speaker 3: So if you do agree with that diagnosis, say you
Speaker 3: do find a doctor that you agree with, they're going
Speaker 3: to provide a recommended treatment plan that might include lifestyle changes,
Speaker 3: nutritional changes, or pharmaceuticals or other kinds of medical products, supplements,
Speaker 3: and each of those categories. You have the right to accept, delay,
Speaker 3: or decline those products in that treatment plan. So if
Speaker 3: you do accept a product, you are observant of any
Speaker 3: potential adverse reactions, You communicate any changes to your condition
Speaker 3: to your medical provider. If you decide to delay that product,
Speaker 3: maybe you want to gather more information about your condition,
Speaker 3: Maybe you want to research other alternatives within that pharmaceutical
Speaker 3: class or supplemental class, or maybe you want to come
Speaker 3: up with a holistic treatment plan where you have some pharmaceuticals,
Speaker 3: some natural supplements, some lifestyle changes, maybe surgery things like that.
Speaker 3: Or maybe you decide to decline that product and you
Speaker 3: can seek alternatives with that provider or find a new provider.
Speaker 3: So that's the basic process of informed consent, and all
Speaker 3: of it is in a pursuit of having all the
Speaker 3: information that you need to make a well considered decision
Speaker 3: about your health and your child health.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from my personal experience I had after a heart attack,
Speaker 2: I had a doctor who is prescribing some stuff to me.
Speaker 2: Then I had some questions about it. I think of
Speaker 2: statins that he was doing, and I'd known about statins,
Speaker 2: and so I mentioned some of the things to him
Speaker 2: about status and I don't think I want to. Oh
Speaker 2: you've been talking to doctor Google, have you? And it's like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess we don't need to talk anymore.
Speaker 3: Actually, I have a funny story about that and this.
Speaker 3: It always makes me laugh when medical professionals say this
Speaker 3: because when I was military, I remember going to the
Speaker 3: doctor and telling them my symptoms and they, I kid
Speaker 3: you not, swiveled around in their chair, got on the
Speaker 3: computer and got on Google in front of me, started
Speaker 3: searching my symptoms to try to find the diagnosis. And
Speaker 3: I remember that was such an aweha moment because I
Speaker 3: remember thinking, why am I here? The only benefit that
Speaker 3: you're providing me is access to a pharmaceutical that I
Speaker 3: cannot get myself. And it started to break down that perception,
Speaker 3: that preconceived notion that I had that all doctors know
Speaker 3: of everything that they're talking about. They don't all know everything.
Speaker 3: And I would also say that my community that I have,
Speaker 3: that just the inserts community, is predominantly medical professionals, many nurses,
Speaker 3: many doctors, many pharmacists, many surgeons. Have reached out to
Speaker 3: me saying I was never taught this in school. I
Speaker 3: was never taught how to read and find and interpret
Speaker 3: manufacturer inserts. The only time that medical professionals in their
Speaker 3: professional training that have been exposed to manufacture inserts are
Speaker 3: because pharmaceutical employees or representatives have contacted them, presented parts
Speaker 3: of the inserts to compare advantages to a competitor.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And pharmaceutical representatives have confirmed that messaging me as well.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when you look at what the doctors are doing
Speaker 2: in most kays, like you said, they'll look on Google
Speaker 2: themselves or the symptoms, you stop and think about what
Speaker 2: they have become in terms of just a service that
Speaker 2: writes out prescriptions that you're not legally allowed to thinks
Speaker 2: you're not legally allowed to get think how easy it's
Speaker 2: going to be to replace them with chat GPT. It's
Speaker 2: about eight years ago that a study in South Korea
Speaker 2: said that by twenty five there was going to be
Speaker 2: massive unemployment. And one of the highest things that they
Speaker 2: had there was doctors, about seventy percent of them. And
Speaker 2: if you stop and think, what is typically is just
Speaker 2: looking up the symptoms and matching it to whatever the
Speaker 2: big pharma wants you to buy for that particular drug
Speaker 2: right now. And so that's I think that's where this
Speaker 2: is all headed, because they have basically made themselves largely irrelevant.
Speaker 3: But actually, just I'm sorry, sorry, go ahead, I was
Speaker 3: just going to comment on that. I actually just read
Speaker 3: an article recently that said there were several hundred people
Speaker 3: and I can't remember the institution that did the study.
Speaker 3: I have to find it and send it to you.
Speaker 3: But they took responses from chat GPT on certain medical
Speaker 3: conditions and then responses created by medical professionals, and they
Speaker 3: asked these study participants which response do you like better?
Speaker 3: And it was overwhelmingly positive towards chat GPT. And it
Speaker 3: was interesting because they were saying medical professionals by are
Speaker 3: less likely to be sought because people will go to
Speaker 3: chat chept instead, which actually can be quite alarming because
Speaker 3: chat GPT isn't autonomous. That there are parameters that the
Speaker 3: AI works within, so you do have to be careful
Speaker 3: of that. But I found that interesting.
Speaker 2: They will train it, and of course they spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time putting biases into the training, and so
Speaker 2: you can imagine it's going to be a fight from
Speaker 2: the pharmaceutical companies to make sure that the biases towards
Speaker 2: their particular drug, because they do that when they run
Speaker 2: the tests. They got three pharmaceutical companies. They've all got
Speaker 2: their own drug for this particular condition, and you'll find
Speaker 2: that when pharmaceutical company A pays for the test and
Speaker 2: the study, that they will be found to be the
Speaker 2: best one. When the other companies do it, they will
Speaker 2: pay for the study to find that they are the
Speaker 2: best ones. So it's going to be who gets to
Speaker 2: put the bias into the chat GPT. The other thing
Speaker 2: that's concerning about it, of course, is the fact that
Speaker 2: chat GPT does hallucinate, So it's kind of like again
Speaker 2: of like going through a doctor who is microdosing on
Speaker 2: LSD or something.
Speaker 1: You never know what you're going.
Speaker 3: To get exactly exactly, go to chat TBT if you want,
Speaker 3: but also read the insert just to confirm everything. And
Speaker 3: it's interesting you brought up the information from pharmaceuticals, because
Speaker 3: most of the time when I read inserts, I completely
Speaker 3: scroll past the clinical trial data. You can manipulate all
Speaker 3: of that data into however you want to, and you
Speaker 3: can see it when you start to get into the
Speaker 3: weeds of it. And I wouldn't recommend anyone first researching
Speaker 3: vaccine or pharmaceutical products to go straight to that section
Speaker 3: because it is very overwhelming. I would recommend going to
Speaker 3: section six point two, which is the post marketing adverse reactions.
Speaker 3: According to the CDC, the definition of an adverse reaction
Speaker 3: is an undesirable medical condition caused by a vaccine a
Speaker 3: pharmaceutical And that's why I would recommend going to section
Speaker 3: six point two, because in six point one you can
Speaker 3: start to see where some of the oh, well, these
Speaker 3: sections of the clinical trial data was exempt from the
Speaker 3: study because X, Y, and Z, and then you start questioning, well,
Speaker 3: why was it to exempt because that obviously would have
Speaker 3: skewed the results, And so I would recommend people s
Speaker 3: keeping that when they're first starting to research.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it changes so rapidly.
Speaker 2: You know, we look at the floor chloroquins and they
Speaker 2: continually tweak the formulation so they can first of all
Speaker 2: renew the patent, but then so that they can also
Speaker 2: make sure that you don't tie it to these other
Speaker 2: things that now have a track record that looks pretty bad.
Speaker 2: So they're constantly adopting a new alias as the way
Speaker 2: that I look at it.
Speaker 1: So how do you keep current with all this stuff
Speaker 1: because they're constantly changing it.
Speaker 3: I don't be honest. I try my best, but there's
Speaker 3: no way, there's no way I can keep up with it.
Speaker 3: Even on X I try to follow all of the CDC,
Speaker 3: FDA AHS all these things, and it's always changing. There
Speaker 3: are always things that are being added or changed. Or
Speaker 3: even the flu vaccines, those get updated every year. And
Speaker 3: I've been doing this for four years now and I've
Speaker 3: had to update my influenza web page four times because
Speaker 3: they change so often. And sometimes they have a crawd
Speaker 3: you know four it covers four but influenza strains and
Speaker 3: sometimes it's three influenzas strange, and now they're talking about
Speaker 3: the mRNA and now they're talking about combining COVID and
Speaker 3: RSV and flu, and so it's if you go into
Speaker 3: it thinking that I'm going to learn everything possibly who
Speaker 3: human possible, you will overwhelm yourself. You'll burn yourself out.
Speaker 3: So my advice is that if you are being recommended
Speaker 3: a medical product by your medical provider, ask them to
Speaker 3: write down the trade name of that product, confirm this spelling,
Speaker 3: and then go to the FDA website, or you can
Speaker 3: go onto Google, go on to your preferred search engine,
Speaker 3: type out that trade name with FDA insert after that,
Speaker 3: and then you'll find the manufacturer insert. And I don't
Speaker 3: if anybody's listening and they're frantically trying to drop this
Speaker 3: all down. I have a free training for on my
Speaker 3: website that goes step by step on how to do this.
Speaker 3: I also have it in my book, and it'll teach
Speaker 3: you that no matter what product comes to market, you
Speaker 3: could research it yourself. You can find the information that
Speaker 3: you need to if the information is available. As we
Speaker 3: already discussed with euays that information might not be available,
Speaker 3: which I would argue, why is that product being brought
Speaker 3: to market? But that's a whole different discussion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and you know, and today it is really
Speaker 2: imperative because we look at simple things, you know, just
Speaker 2: like antibiotics or whatever, and they're constantly changing them, changing
Speaker 2: the formulation and making them more concentrated and things. So
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't your mom or your dad's antibiotic.
Speaker 2: This is something that is very different, and because of
Speaker 2: the rapid change in pharmaceuticals, you really do have to
Speaker 2: keep track of this, and you really need to take
Speaker 2: it seriously. These people always dismiss it by, you know,
Speaker 2: whenever something happens, Oh, it's rare, right that that covers everything.
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, evidently it's not so rare that
Speaker 2: it wasn't in the insert and evidently, you know, even
Speaker 2: though it might not be a whole lot of people
Speaker 2: by your account, and we don't know because they don't
Speaker 2: necessarily bother to let us know. They'll list out a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of things. And that's the one thing that
Speaker 2: we need to not fall into, I think, is that
Speaker 2: mindset to tell ourselves, well, yeah, it says if I
Speaker 2: take this antibiotic, I could have a stroke. But I
Speaker 2: never heard of anybody having a stroke after an antibiotic.
Speaker 2: And yet it happened to my mother, and so they've
Speaker 2: got it there for a reason, and we need to
Speaker 2: be careful about that. What about the healthcare providers, I mean,
Speaker 2: talk to us. You said, you've got a lot of
Speaker 2: healthcare providers who go to your website just the inserts
Speaker 2: dot com. What is it that you tell them in
Speaker 2: terms of and tell patients in terms of what the
Speaker 2: relationship should look like for informed consent.
Speaker 3: Well, I brought a to all medical providers who are
Speaker 3: going outside the traditional trading model of what they've been
Speaker 3: taught in school, what they are taught by professional private
Speaker 3: memberships such as the American Academy of Pediatrics ACOG, all
Speaker 3: these all these other private entities that receive they publicly
Speaker 3: acknowledge they receive funding from pharmaceutical industries. Bravo to the
Speaker 3: medical provider that is seeking their own information and taking
Speaker 3: it on themselves to go outside of that training model.
Speaker 3: I love hearing that, and there are more and more
Speaker 3: medical professionals doing that just from the four years that
Speaker 3: I've been talking about this. So my advice would be
Speaker 3: that when you are first going to medical school, most
Speaker 3: medical providers go because they want to help their patients,
Speaker 3: because they want to heal because they want to see
Speaker 3: someone come into their office hurt and in pain and
Speaker 3: for them to leave to be better, and for them
Speaker 3: to understand that researching manufacturer and SERTs, researching potential non
Speaker 3: pharmaceutical alternatives helps you do that. Pharmaceutical companies are not
Speaker 3: the arbiters of science. They are not the only ones
Speaker 3: that exercise science in pursuit of health and in pursuit
Speaker 3: of wellness. And I actually have an entire chapter of
Speaker 3: that in my book, and I cite from dot gov resources,
Speaker 3: I cite from the NIH about chiropractic care, about aravetic care,
Speaker 3: about traditional Chinese medicine. There are all these other models
Speaker 3: of health and healing that are accepted across the United States.
Speaker 3: And there was a study that was done and this
Speaker 3: was about ten years ago, and I believe it was
Speaker 3: thirty percent of Americans have had some kind of experience
Speaker 3: with unconventional healthcare, is what they would call it. And
Speaker 3: so my advice to anyone researching is, yes, utilize the
Speaker 3: tools that are available to you, make informed decisions about
Speaker 3: them by reading the inserts, but also understand that there's
Speaker 3: not just those tools. There's a whole world of healthcare
Speaker 3: available to us, and I was actually able to attend
Speaker 3: the Senate roundtable discussion with Senator Ron John's in DC
Speaker 3: in person and Robert Kennedy Junior. At the end of
Speaker 3: his closing comments, he spoke to the entrepreneurial spirit of
Speaker 3: Americans and how there are healthcare providers going outside of
Speaker 3: the insurance models, going outside of traditional healthcare to provide
Speaker 3: health to patients. They might not be as marketed as
Speaker 3: well as other professionals, or they might not even have websites,
Speaker 3: but they're out there and to start for them to
Speaker 3: realize that they can take their business and not be
Speaker 3: so beholden to third party entities or to insurance companies
Speaker 3: to accomplish their goal of helping people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, part of the problem that we saw,
Speaker 2: especially through COVID, was anybody who bucked the system, and
Speaker 2: you know, there's this whole like union or guild or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and they'll come back and you know,
Speaker 2: because everything is licensed and tightly control like that, we
Speaker 2: saw so many people get purged out of the system
Speaker 2: who did want to offer people different alternatives. And of course,
Speaker 2: what the AMA has been pushing for a very long
Speaker 2: time after the rockefellas is a paradigm of disease is
Speaker 2: something that's got to be killed. Well, Unfortunately, sometimes the
Speaker 2: stuff that you use to kill the disease also kills you.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it kills parts of your body. Sometimes it's not
Speaker 2: just temporary. Sometimes it is permanent. And that's one of
Speaker 2: the things that's concerning about some of these antibotics that
Speaker 2: are out there. It's that model, rather than building up
Speaker 2: your body and strengthening your immune system doing things that
Speaker 2: are going to destroy your immune system or destroy other
Speaker 2: parts of your body. That's the key thing. And so
Speaker 2: it's a very there are a lot of different paradigms
Speaker 2: out there. You're write, and it is very important for
Speaker 2: people to consider that, and I'm sure you've got some
Speaker 2: of that on your website. As far as informed consent,
Speaker 2: different alternatives, yes.
Speaker 3: And I also have reference that our resources available in
Speaker 3: my training course and in my book Physicians FORI and
Speaker 3: Form Consent is another great resource. And they actually just
Speaker 3: did an article discussing how for the flu vaccine, those
Speaker 3: that accepted the flu vaccine, the effectiveness overall isn't very
Speaker 3: good for the flu vaccine. I believe it's around forty percent,
Speaker 3: but there was a study that was done that those
Speaker 3: that had accepted the flu vaccine were actually at a
Speaker 3: higher risk of other respiratory illnesses, and so understanding many
Speaker 3: of the discussions that are done in a pediatrician's office.
Speaker 3: In a provider primary care physician's office, the discussion is
Speaker 3: very siloed. It's very okay, we're going to discuss flu,
Speaker 3: and this is how this is the product that you
Speaker 3: need to get for flu. But they're not realizing what
Speaker 3: about the whole health? What about the whole body? Is
Speaker 3: this vaccine potentially going to cause issues elsewhere? Is it
Speaker 3: going to inhibit an an immune response when this patient
Speaker 3: is exposed to other viruses, or maybe you're like you discussed,
Speaker 3: is it going to overtax their liver and so they
Speaker 3: might not be able to detox the excipients in this product?
Speaker 3: Or is it going to kill their gut microbiome. There
Speaker 3: are so many other things that I believe the medical
Speaker 3: industry as a whole are not considering. They are just
Speaker 3: very siloed and they're very focused on just one topic.
Speaker 3: And one thing that I've noticed to reading inserts is
Speaker 3: that there are so many inserts that say that they
Speaker 3: lower the effectiveness of other products. The great example is
Speaker 3: typhoid vaccine, and I discussed this in the book. I
Speaker 3: get asked all the time about people that are traveling
Speaker 3: internationally about international vaccines, and it says on the CDC
Speaker 3: website and on the manufacturer insert that the typhoid vaccine
Speaker 3: is limited. The effective effectiveness of it is limited when
Speaker 3: you take anti malaria drugs. And so if you travel
Speaker 3: to a place like India, the CDC says, yes, take
Speaker 3: the typhoid vaccine, but also take your anti malaria drugs.
Speaker 3: And then on the insert it says the effectiveness of
Speaker 3: the typhoid vaccine is limited by taking anti malaria drugs.
Speaker 3: And so just understanding that when you take a product,
Speaker 3: it could be limiting the effectiveness of another product or
Speaker 3: your body's immune response as a whole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we look at drug interactions, that's one of
Speaker 2: the things that I've started to look at. Somebody recommends
Speaker 2: something to me for a blood tender, for example, since
Speaker 2: I have aphib the one put me on a blood thinner,
Speaker 2: and as I look at it, and you know, I
Speaker 2: look at some products or I look at a particular
Speaker 2: blood thinner and the blood thinner says don't take it
Speaker 2: with these other things. It's like, oh, okay, so then
Speaker 2: those other things would also thin my blood. Maybe they're
Speaker 2: not as dangerous.
Speaker 1: You know, and you know or rise a versa.
Speaker 2: You know, you go to the to the natural supplement
Speaker 2: and as you know, be careful if you're taking blood
Speaker 2: thinners because or whatever it's going to lower your blood pressure,
Speaker 2: is going to thin your blood some more.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: So I basically used that to avoid some pharmaceuticals when
Speaker 2: I look at it. But you know, part of this.
Speaker 2: You mentioned your story your mother doing research and trying
Speaker 2: to warn you about it. And when we have friends
Speaker 2: or we have family and we know something and we
Speaker 2: see something that is alarming like that, we want to
Speaker 2: grab them by the lapel and say, don't do it.
Speaker 2: Like you talked about you said it was like your
Speaker 2: mother was like you were standing on the edge of a.
Speaker 1: Cliff about to fall off. And that's the way we
Speaker 1: feel about.
Speaker 2: It, and so we get very compassionate about it. What
Speaker 2: is the best way to approach other people that you
Speaker 2: have found.
Speaker 3: That's really hard, It's really complicated, especially when we have
Speaker 3: external forces, either a government mandating the product, or we
Speaker 3: have the social and cultural external pushes of the marketing
Speaker 3: posts of saying get this to protect your grandma, or
Speaker 3: get this to protect commummunity. It's very hard, and I
Speaker 3: think upfront we need to address that because it is
Speaker 3: a very delicate balance to strike, and I believe it
Speaker 3: really depends on your personal relationship with that person, understanding
Speaker 3: their personality, understanding what is going to resonate with them
Speaker 3: for them to start researching. I'm not the type of
Speaker 3: person to be told what to do, and so my
Speaker 3: mother should have known not to go through at that angle.
Speaker 3: But I understand. I understand now that I've done the
Speaker 3: research why she felt that way, especially because I was
Speaker 3: in my third trimester. I was getting ready to have
Speaker 3: that product at my next appointment, and so I do
Speaker 3: understand her sense of urgency.
Speaker 2: Now, those have never vaccinate pregnant women, and then you
Speaker 2: know they crossed that rubicon and then through COVID and everything,
Speaker 2: they were demanding that pregnant women get vaccinated with us,
Speaker 2: and that, I mean, it really is amazing how this
Speaker 2: is all set up. And again going back to the paradigm,
Speaker 2: is it's kind of the sense that if we can
Speaker 2: kill whatever that thing is that we think ails you.
Speaker 2: You know, the operation is successful, maybe the patient dies,
Speaker 2: but we don't care as long as the operation is successful.
Speaker 2: Rather than first do no harm, they have gotten so
Speaker 2: far away from that primary directive at first do no harm.
Speaker 2: It's just got to get rid of whatever that thing
Speaker 2: is regards So what happens to the person's.
Speaker 1: Health, and that's.
Speaker 2: A thing that is very concerning. But again I'm sorry
Speaker 2: I interrupted. You were talking about how your mother was
Speaker 2: working with you. I mean, it's a difficult thing to
Speaker 2: try to when we see how dangerous this is to
Speaker 2: try to get it across to people, isn't it It is?
Speaker 3: It is, And so my advice is to approach it
Speaker 3: in love, but in boldness, and to approach it in
Speaker 3: the sense of having all of the information cided. I
Speaker 3: actually have an entire chapter on this, and I do
Speaker 3: talk about it in my training course as well. That
Speaker 3: we have to first automatically assume that the person has
Speaker 3: good intentions for themselves and their families. I think when
Speaker 3: we go into it thinking nefarious, especially for friends and family,
Speaker 3: that can put you off on the wrong foot right
Speaker 3: out of the gate. And so to go into it
Speaker 3: that they are just trying to do the best decision
Speaker 3: with the information they have, and that you are tasked
Speaker 3: with the opportunity to provide more accurate information and to
Speaker 3: guide them in their path of research. And you're gonna
Speaker 3: get much further in a place of love than and
Speaker 3: in a place of hostility. And so I provide just
Speaker 3: different resources for people to do that and to be
Speaker 3: able to not be so aggressive. And some advice that
Speaker 3: I give to as well is that if you do
Speaker 3: go into a provider and you like this provider, but
Speaker 3: they're forcing you to accept a certain product, to only
Speaker 3: bring dot gov information. If you go into a medical
Speaker 3: provider's office with a dot gov or dot com research
Speaker 3: resource like myself, like just the Answers, Like if you
Speaker 3: say I got this from just Theanswers dot Com, they
Speaker 3: have been trained to discredit anything else that comes out
Speaker 3: of your mouth. So it's really important for you to
Speaker 3: go in with the dot gov information, have manufacturer inserts
Speaker 3: printed out, highlight them for the parts that you want
Speaker 3: to discuss with them, maybe even write the URL in
Speaker 3: the bottom of the webpage if it isn't there for
Speaker 3: you to have productive conversations with them. Some family members
Speaker 3: are the same way. That's how I was. I have
Speaker 3: gotten hundreds of messages from people saying thank you so
Speaker 3: much for putting this information out there, because I was
Speaker 3: having circular conversations, debates, arguments with my loved one and
Speaker 3: they just said, well, I want to hear only from
Speaker 3: doc ofv information, and they happen to find my account
Speaker 3: and that's how they were able to have productive conversations.
Speaker 3: Some people also don't learn by reading. They are more
Speaker 3: visual or they're more auditory. So maybe you need to
Speaker 3: find a documentary. Maybe you need to find a podcast
Speaker 3: that might present the information in a different way and
Speaker 3: that might be helpful for them to learn. One thing
Speaker 3: I did want to touch on when you were talking
Speaker 3: about pregnant women. Another reason why I was deleted is
Speaker 3: because I had done a post about the about a
Speaker 3: cog pushing the COVID vaccines onto pregnant women, and I
Speaker 3: was getting so many messages of pregnant women skipping prenatal
Speaker 3: appointments or having anxiety attacks about going to a prenatal
Speaker 3: appointment because their provider was pushing the COVID vaccine so hard.
Speaker 3: And I was pregnant at the time, so this just
Speaker 3: struck a nerve with me. I was on pregnancy apps
Speaker 3: sharing information because women were asking should I get it?
Speaker 3: Should I not get it? I don't know if my
Speaker 3: intuition is telling me no, but I don't have much information.
Speaker 3: And so I was sharing doc of information and almost
Speaker 3: every single comment that I made was flagged and deleted
Speaker 3: by the app. And so it's hard. It's so hard
Speaker 3: because you want to get so mad and so angry,
Speaker 3: and believe me, I have every right to be mad
Speaker 3: and angry and aggressive. But that's when the Holy Spirit
Speaker 3: kind of takes over and reminds me that if you
Speaker 3: go in it too hard, too fast, I have to
Speaker 3: remember that I have researched fact A to fact B
Speaker 3: to fact C all the way to fact Z. And
Speaker 3: if you go in with fact P or somewhere else,
Speaker 3: that might put someone in the defense, and it might
Speaker 3: put them in a unhealthy way of responding to the
Speaker 3: information that you're presenting to them. So it is hard.
Speaker 3: It is it's very hard, and you really have to
Speaker 3: have it's a little bit of an art trying to
Speaker 3: prevent the information to them.
Speaker 2: Well, I like what you had to say about dot gov,
Speaker 2: because you know, one of the reasons I look at
Speaker 2: it is like you know, why why do we have
Speaker 2: these arguments and fights. Well, many of us will look
Speaker 2: at this and we've done research and we'll talk to
Speaker 2: somebody and they'll say, yeah, but this authority figure says this.
Speaker 2: It's like, don't talk to me about authority figures.
Speaker 3: To your own life fallacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I just have this knee
Speaker 2: jerk reactions like why are you listening to these authorities?
Speaker 1: They lie about everything.
Speaker 2: And as you're pointing out, you know, we're at point
Speaker 2: Z because we've been seeing the authorities lying to us
Speaker 2: about everything, but they haven't noticed that. And so we
Speaker 2: jump into this conversation way down at a different place
Speaker 2: than where they are. Number one, number two, we get
Speaker 2: upset because they're so focused on authority figures. And I
Speaker 2: think your approach of saying, well, if we go with
Speaker 2: dot gov information, we're fighting authority with authority, and I
Speaker 2: think that's a brilliant strategy. I think that's really great
Speaker 2: and so and it's also when we look at social
Speaker 2: media and the censorship that has been there, and I've
Speaker 2: experienced a great deal of it myself. When we look
Speaker 2: at that, we've got to get away from the social
Speaker 2: media walled garden that is there, and so people go
Speaker 2: to a particular website, they go to your website, or
Speaker 2: they go to mine or whatever. They go to a book.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the way to get outside of the system.
Speaker 2: We're all becoming trapped into focusing so much on social media,
Speaker 2: and it's only going to get a lot worse. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've got Facebook is out there talking about how they're
Speaker 2: going to create AI friends for you to talk to,
Speaker 2: and it's like, what kind of a crazy world is this?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like the worst dystopian ideas of
Speaker 2: Yubil Harari out there talking about creating AI friends to
Speaker 2: talk to you because you don't have any real friends
Speaker 2: of your own. It's going to be this massive web
Speaker 2: of deception and of control and of surveillance. And so
Speaker 2: we need to start going to directly to websites. Yours
Speaker 2: is just the inserts dot com going to a book.
Speaker 2: What is the name of your book? By the way,
Speaker 2: we didn't talk.
Speaker 3: It's called a well consier to handbook for making for
Speaker 3: medical decisions. I made it very small on purpose. I
Speaker 3: have all the information you need, everything that I wish
Speaker 3: I would have known when I first started researching, and
Speaker 3: it's also sourced from doc of information, and one of
Speaker 3: the chapters that I have in here, I actually go
Speaker 3: into the potential financial conflicts of interest at the federal
Speaker 3: level level and at the physician level. And I think
Speaker 3: that's important for patients and parents to understand as well
Speaker 3: that when they walk into an office, they aren't just
Speaker 3: walking into a philanthropic environment where the provider is providing
Speaker 3: charity to you. It's a sales fundl And i'd add
Speaker 3: having a business background, it's important to understand what you
Speaker 3: are walking into. So when you are if your provider
Speaker 3: is becoming emotional about your personal medical decision, you could
Speaker 3: understand that there's a bias there and there's a potential
Speaker 3: financial conflict of interest. I get messages from people that
Speaker 3: are so worried about upsetting their providers, and they don't
Speaker 3: realize that it's not them. It's not you, it's them.
Speaker 3: It's not something that you need to take personally. If
Speaker 3: your provider is getting upset, they are now entering a
Speaker 3: medical coersion, medical bullying, and that's not your fault, that's
Speaker 3: their fault, and you need to safely remove yourself from
Speaker 3: that relationship and find a better, more qualified provider.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: And a big part of this is that, you know,
Speaker 2: when we have these campaigns by the media or even
Speaker 2: if we get information from a health service provider, is
Speaker 2: to avoid the fear. You know, fear is a thing
Speaker 2: that allows them to do whatever they wish to to
Speaker 2: us if we get afraid enough of whatever this say is,
Speaker 2: regardless of what we have seen happen to other people,
Speaker 2: regardless of what we've experienced in our own life. If
Speaker 2: they can build the fear of the condition, let's call
Speaker 2: it the disease or whatever it is. If they can
Speaker 2: build that fear up, they can sell us anything, and
Speaker 2: people will continue to take it no matter even if
Speaker 2: you have bad, you know, adverse reactions to it, and
Speaker 2: keep taking it because you're so afraid of the disease.
Speaker 3: That's the key thing comparative safety, and it's one thing
Speaker 3: that I've noticed continual reading dot guv information is almost
Speaker 3: all of these medical products are the safety and effectiveness
Speaker 3: of them are deemed in comparison to potential complications to
Speaker 3: a disease or an illness. And that's not right. We
Speaker 3: need to be assessing them based on their own safety,
Speaker 3: their own effectiveness, not comparing it to anything else, because
Speaker 3: you can make anything seem safe if you compare it
Speaker 3: to something that is more dangerous. And I talk about
Speaker 3: in the book how dangerous that comparison is and how
Speaker 3: unscientific it is because of what we know from the
Speaker 3: government funded study about adverse reactions, how only one percent
Speaker 3: of reactions are accurately reflected. And then also too, we
Speaker 3: haven't discussed that many vaccine manufacturers talk about shedding and
Speaker 3: the potential for shedding, and how vaccine strains of a
Speaker 3: disease are out there, polio flu, chicken pox, shingles. There
Speaker 3: are vaccine strains that the CDC is tracking. So when
Speaker 3: we talk about disease rates measles outbreak, was it from
Speaker 3: the vaccine or was it from a wild strain? I
Speaker 3: think that's very important for consumers to be aware of
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when we look at what is going on.
Speaker 2: For instance, in Gaza, they said, well, we tested the
Speaker 2: swage and we found this polio out there. Well, polio
Speaker 2: from the vaccine. We've seen situations. I remember when they
Speaker 2: freaked out they had four patients who got measles, and
Speaker 2: of course I'm old enough. We didn't even have any
Speaker 2: measles vaccines and everybody got measles. Never heard of any
Speaker 2: serious reactions to anybody. Parents didn't or they wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been having measle parties to make sure they get this
Speaker 2: over and done with.
Speaker 3: I had throubella as a baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, And so you know, we had
Speaker 2: all these childhood diseases and it's easier to cope with
Speaker 2: them at childhood. And it was something that was in
Speaker 2: fact very rare. But you know, you got I remember
Speaker 2: a New York case where they had four measle cases
Speaker 2: and everybody had been vaccinated at least twice, some of
Speaker 2: them more than that for that so it very well
Speaker 2: could have been the vaccine itself that they were giving them.
Speaker 2: We never know about this type of thing. Talk to
Speaker 2: us a little bit about as a parent we do
Speaker 2: for your children.
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing, if I'm worried about a disease,
Speaker 3: because of the hype that is done either by public
Speaker 3: health campaigns or influencers or anything that are talking about
Speaker 3: a disease. RSV recently has been discussed a lot, and
Speaker 3: now the bird flu is I've just on my personal
Speaker 3: Instagram I saw three influencers start talking about the bird
Speaker 3: flu and so if you were exposed to something like that,
Speaker 3: as a parent, naturally you're going to worry about it.
Speaker 3: I think as a parent, that's normal and that's valid,
Speaker 3: and that's okay. So for me, what I do is
Speaker 3: I research the disease. I understand what are the early
Speaker 3: symptoms of this disease, What is the transmission, How does
Speaker 3: it transmit? Is it from fecal matter, is it from
Speaker 3: oral droplets? Is it from blood exposure, you know, exposure
Speaker 3: to somebody's blood. I want to understand how this disease
Speaker 3: or virus or condition or something, how does it spread?
Speaker 3: And then I want to know what are the potential
Speaker 3: complications of it. Once you understand the mechanism action, and
Speaker 3: how the disease presents in the body, then you can understand, Okay,
Speaker 3: what are the things that I can do to prevent this.
Speaker 3: If this disease is spread by somebody going to the
Speaker 3: bathroom being exposed to be equal mod on not washing
Speaker 3: their hands like the poliovirus, then I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 3: every single time on a public public restroom to wash
Speaker 3: my hands and not excessively touch everything in the bathroom.
Speaker 3: My children have been trained from the get go not
Speaker 3: to touch any mucus membranes. They don't touch their mouth,
Speaker 3: they don't touch their nose, they don't touch their eyes,
Speaker 3: they don't touch their ears. When they're in public. As
Speaker 3: soon as we get home, we wash our hands twenty
Speaker 3: seconds cover everything. They know that and that is a
Speaker 3: tool that can be used in disease prevention. I also
Speaker 3: make sure that their immune systems are constantly being supported.
Speaker 3: We ensure that the quality of food that we have
Speaker 3: is nourishing their body. I'm a firm believer that every
Speaker 3: product you put in and on your body can either
Speaker 3: help or hinder your health, and that includes food, and
Speaker 3: so we prioritize quality food. We prioritize sleep in our household.
Speaker 3: There are hundreds of thousands to millions of research and
Speaker 3: data on the quality of sleep that you have can
Speaker 3: determine your immune responses. Immune support your support system. If
Speaker 3: we know that we are potentially going to be around
Speaker 3: someone that it was recently vaccinated, we make sure that
Speaker 3: we have some tinctures that we take to support our liver,
Speaker 3: to support our detox systems, so that if there is
Speaker 3: a shedding event or one of the things that I
Speaker 3: discuss our breakthrough infections, and this is heavily discussed by
Speaker 3: the CDC and FDA, especially for the CODE vaccines. They
Speaker 3: are tracking breakthrough infections. So when somebody is up to
Speaker 3: date on their CODE vaccine, according to the CDC, they
Speaker 3: can still have COVID and transmit it to other people,
Speaker 3: but they don't have symptoms. It's asymptomatic. So in my opinion,
Speaker 3: they're actually more dangerous because the symptoms aren't alerting them
Speaker 3: to stay home, and they are exposing themselves to everybody
Speaker 3: else and there's no symptoms that could potentially keep them
Speaker 3: from spreading it to other people. So knowing all of this,
Speaker 3: I could be in, as a parent, a state of
Speaker 3: fear constantly, and I will admit that there are times
Speaker 3: where I do fall into that camp of just being
Speaker 3: constantly afraid of everything coming after my child. But then
Speaker 3: that stress and fear itself will lower my immune response
Speaker 3: and also pass that stress onto my children. So instead,
Speaker 3: I have adopted the strategy of what can we do
Speaker 3: to support our bodies? So no matter what we're exposed to,
Speaker 3: either in the sky or pollution or toxins in our environment,
Speaker 3: we are prepared and we are supporting our body as
Speaker 3: much as possible.
Speaker 2: I agree, And it all goes back to, you know,
Speaker 2: do we agree with their diagnosis? You know when you
Speaker 2: look at the bird flu stuff, Oh, look at how
Speaker 2: many people have gotten it and they got pink eye,
Speaker 2: And so you talk about you know, not touching your
Speaker 2: eyes when you're out in public and anything, what about
Speaker 2: when you're working with bovine fecal matter, because you know,
Speaker 2: that is what we're saying over and over again. They've
Speaker 2: people got pink eye, Well, how often do they get
Speaker 2: pink eye normally if they're not washing their hands?
Speaker 3: And did a bird flu post last night because I
Speaker 3: was just so heated by these influencers to start saying,
Speaker 3: make sure you get your H five N one vaccine
Speaker 3: and like that's not even commercially available yet and they're
Speaker 3: already trying to push this the only vaccines available or
Speaker 3: stop by by this stockpiled by the CDC. But in
Speaker 3: the CDC guidance that I pulled, it said that the
Speaker 3: people that had been exposed to bird flu and had
Speaker 3: contracted the disease, they had prolonged exposure to dead birds
Speaker 3: or boohind fecal matter.
Speaker 1: We know that's what they could have been yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Who knows what they could have been sick with, and
Speaker 2: you know, they get pink eye and they don't have
Speaker 2: any respiratory issues, no fever, any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Is like, I don't call it bird flu. Maybe call
Speaker 2: it bird's eye, you know, or something like that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of heavy, heavy disinformation out there, and
Speaker 2: it's all about a campaign of fear. Leanna Wynn is
Speaker 2: out there pushing this bird flu vaccine and it's got
Speaker 2: a very very dangerous profile. Uh so people need to
Speaker 2: be very very concerned about it. I've got a couple
Speaker 2: of comments here. Dougle Legg says, after my heart surgery,
Speaker 2: I quit all the prescribed meds within four months. Doc
Speaker 2: says I've prescribed those for a reason, but he said
Speaker 2: no more. It's like, well, okay, we don't necessarily agree
Speaker 2: with your reason. And of course you're always looking to
Speaker 2: see what what the issues are with it. Guard Goldsmith says,
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask if she took donations, so I
Speaker 2: look for a book, see about the training program. Those
Speaker 2: sound valuable if I and if I can afford both,
Speaker 2: I'd love to study based on her program. And again
Speaker 2: you can find that at informconsent dot com.
Speaker 3: And it's just the answers dot com.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, just the inswerts dot com.
Speaker 3: So when the training course is free, it's always going
Speaker 3: to be free on my website. No email were part.
Speaker 1: To access good Good.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about guard again. He might be interested
Speaker 2: in talking to you as well on his program. Uh,
Speaker 2: he has Liberty Conspiracy. Jason Barker has another program, he
Speaker 2: said as the bottom line is that since naturally occurring
Speaker 2: molecules can't be patented, they produce synthetic patentable drugs. They
Speaker 2: try to do the same thing that many natural things
Speaker 2: can treat. And Handy, who is a er professional and
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Speaker 3: Though, and that's a failure of education for our healthcare providers.
Speaker 3: Most of the time with the healthcare provider is researching
Speaker 3: a manufacturer insert is because they themselves are liable or
Speaker 3: they become parents. That is one of the top reasons
Speaker 3: that medical professionals have told me that they've read inserts
Speaker 3: and that is a problem.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that is amazing. Yeah, the stuff that's in
Speaker 2: there is in there for a reason, and if it
Speaker 2: looks scary, you should be afraid of that. The only
Speaker 2: one you're afraid of the condition that you're looking at.
Speaker 2: And so that's an important thing. Just the inserts and
Speaker 2: it is very important that when we have informed consent,
Speaker 2: it begins with them from me. You can find a
Speaker 2: lot of information at just the inserts. Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: Alexander for joining us. Always great talking to you, talking
Speaker 2: to people who have looked at what is happening with
Speaker 2: all of this stuff, and I think it is very
Speaker 2: important Firs understand not only for ourselves, but how can
Speaker 2: we have meaningful conversation with other people and to meet
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Speaker 2: I think that is one of the best ideas. And
Speaker 2: of course people can find a lot of that information
Speaker 2: at just the inserts dot com. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for joining us.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, thank you.
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