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Speaker 1: All right, next up, Kirkland, we're getting han heavy hunt

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for Gollum. It's no longer just a thing in the wind.

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It's no longer just an idea that it's been always happening,

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but it's like really happening now because we're getting casting.

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So Kate Winslet came from a sea tier, but then

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it got backed up. So all these rumors came from

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that same Scooper. So I'm gonna say, what story came

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from a B tier.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: They're very likely happening or happening. But so Kate Winslet

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is added as the female lead. No role yet, what

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it's been, so not sure if it's someone we know.

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Some people of speculate it's like Airgwin's mother. Some people

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of speculates this character. But sil Kate Winsley is a

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female lead with any Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Joy who on you Tailor Joy?

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Speaker 1: Because Taylor's trying to push that narrative earlier this week,

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Aunt tail Joy isn't there. We don't know if that's

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a new character, if she's Arwin, if she's a Gladial.

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So we don't know about that, And then I got it. Oh,

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I didn't write his name down. Fuck, But uh, I

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think it's like Leo, oh yeah, Leah woodell As that

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is who it is. Would All, yeah, Leo would All.

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We talked about this, and it looks like it's actually

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happening where air Gorn is getting recast. Apparently this Leo

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wood All guy is the top choice. I can kind

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of see. It looks wise, I think. And this I'll

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start with Kirkland. My only I have multiple hanks with

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this movie. But the Hunt for goalm takes place relatively

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close to the Fellowship of the Ring.

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Speaker 2: Right, Kirkland. Oh yeah, So my issue here is that

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Antaea Joy is young Arwin.

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Speaker 1: Well that's my thing, right, Like if she's young Arwin,

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or if she's young Gladal and he's young Ara Gorn,

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it's like it's that weird thing. Where again, too, Elijah

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Wood's coming back, Ian McCown's coming back, So it's like

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half the cast is gonna be the same actors playing

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the old characters, and then we're gonna have like Rwin

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and Aragorne new characters or sort of new actors looking younger.

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But it's supposed to be like what you're supposed to

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tell me in weeks later, that guy turns to Diego Morrison,

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Like I had a big enough problem with Sol Lucus.

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And I can never like in that movie just looks vibe.

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at least that's five week or five years. It is

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like five weeks at most, like maybe less than that.

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So how do you feel about some of these castings?

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Eric Kirkland as the Middle Earth guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't feel super hot on them. I feel

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like I've been in a weird place just overall with

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this project. I feel like just since the time that

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it was announced to where we are now, the spark

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is just kind of kind of faded. Honestly, it's I

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don't know. I don't know if it's because Rings of

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Power or something, but it's just like I don't want

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to get too hyped on something like this because I

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feel like it'll just set myself up for disappointment, and

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especially in the fact of like thinking about how close

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this would be to the events of like the Fellowship

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of the Ring, and like we're completely recasting characters that

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you know, again, it's impossible to do this, but like

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these characters don't really age in the cases of like

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a glad Reel or like like you're saying a young Gladial,

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age actually, like like you know, technically she's like an

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elth that just lives pretty.

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Speaker 2: Similar thirty year old territory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like Eric Goren, like, yeah, I can see

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this guy is a ranger, but like to be thinking

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him as Vigle Morton, Like I I just feel like

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it's going to be a solo thing, and I feel

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like that's probably gonna be the general audience's perception. And

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unless it's what's your finger doing up in there?

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Speaker 2: Because you never answered me, did you? Are you? And

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Shaye Watchham Vladimir? No? Okay? Because you I said something

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and you're like because I, I.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just saw it on the on the Telli as.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's in that as the male love interest. That's

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what I's gonna I ask you if you had any

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recollection recollation of him, but okay, continue sorry now? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, So I I I feel like I I can

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picture Kate Winslet in this type of universe, like I

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feel like you know her, like she just feels like

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like she would fit in a Middle Earth realm obviously

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project that has her in there. We'll see what, like

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who she is. I will see this regardless. But I

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think it's Yeah, I think it's a hard ask for

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out of ten hype, like, holy fuck, this project is

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gonna be amazing, Like, I just don't think I'm gonna

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get there. Uh really, like really, any announcement I don't

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think really get me there unless yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Me directed by Venom, there be Carns director, any.

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Speaker 1: Sort of don't forget that, that would Animal Farm director.

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Speaker 3: Oh you already is the director?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he is the director. Yeah, I forget about

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that now.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's like retrospective now, but like now, knowing what

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we know, would you have rabbed them just said we're

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gonna do the Hunt for Gollum, but it's gonna be

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kind of a reboot where it is set before Fellowship,

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but we.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to use as actors. We're gonna do our

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own things.

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Speaker 1: So we can kind of play because that's where I

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am now, is seeing everything going down, So.

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Speaker 3: Especially having like half you know half Yeah, it's from

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ther og. It's like they're trying to get away with like, no,

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this is the same universe, the same story, the exact

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same Peter Jackson universe. You know that you've seen like

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you could treat this as a prequel to Fellowship when

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you're doing your marathons, kids, like no, no, no, no,

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don't try and fool us that this is this is

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like Sony Universe type stuff where we're not incorporating this

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Speaker 1: Get it, because like you can't have Vegle even if

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he's dahs run around flipping around, Like I get it.

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Speaker 2: He's like a six year old guy, so you can't.

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Speaker 1: Whole fucking leg this time kicking that helmet, Like I

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get it. It's just that's where it's like in conception.

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I'm so curious how this is gonna play when we

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do get there, because I think it's gonna be that

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marketing of like you remember Middle or if you remember

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these but then it's like, is that that air goorn again?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure. Maybe they're gona play with it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna say the Hunt for Goal was actually

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like two years before.

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Speaker 2: But that's like Star Wars ship where Darth.

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Speaker 1: Vader's like, oh, since the last time I saw you,

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now it's changed. But then they're like, oh, well, and

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Obi won the TV show. He actually meant like he

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a couple of years ago, I searched for gall and

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I couldn't find them. So it's just like again, you're

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like something that I appreciate about

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Lord of the Rings as a kid, you know, and

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played those characters going yes, But to me it was

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like this actor, like is this person? And for many

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of them it took like years before I saw them

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actor who does this other stuff. I feel like that's

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well the Hall bit. I feel like they just switched

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I was just personally familiar with and so I don't know,

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there's something like I loved Aya, but I don't there's

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something weird to me about her being in here. You know,

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it's just such a known actress. I've seen her in

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so many things, and so obviously that is like a

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personal bias thing for me. So just as much as

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of it a bit. And like, I think so much

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the Rings and buying into it is that I didn't

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really know the actors. And you know, maybe they transformed

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the looks a lot and they look very different, but

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Speaker 3: Kate Winsley.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I think I think I agree with her. I

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and obviously we know how that went, but this is

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Speaker 2: Very cash grabby.

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Speaker 4: But you know, maybe it'll be a fun time. I

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my love for Lord of the Rings because I've already

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had that Hobbit trilogy to burn through some of those feelings. Yeah,

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couple of buddies and I think we're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And no, Dylan, I'm with you one hundred percent on

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the on any because they all in conception, these are

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all great actors or great actresses. The Leo would all guy,

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he was. He was good, but non Away was like,

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Speaker 2: Going, you know.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, Like he's a solid like romantic

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you for That's why I also hate

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the Disney Plus stuff, Like I know we always meme

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about him, but like I hated seeing Jack Black pop

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up in Star Wars.

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Speaker 2: Because to me, that just broke the emersion so much

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Speaker 1: Lizzle to that fact, like Lizo the same thing, like,

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so I wouldn't want the same thing here, and I

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don't think like Anya is that memeable.

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Speaker 2: But at the same point, it is like, oh, you're

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Stars and Lord of the Rings. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I always like either someone we've seen a little bit

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John Bay or Daisy Ridley, where it's just like are

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somebody he wasn't in a bunch of stuff, right, And.

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of things like get the biggest star possible. I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they still go like we have Paedro Pascal.

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Speaker 4: So it's like a very different strategy with the casting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like it's like the character, right,

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It's like, Okay, if this character is big enough, we

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can get Tom Hall and inspire men.

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Speaker 2: That carries it.

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Speaker 1: Where it's like okay, Captain Marvel, let's get pre Lars

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and she just went an Oscar.

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Speaker 2: People kind of know her. Now, Let's like.

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Speaker 1: Get a name or even strange, right, like let's get

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cumber Batch.

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Speaker 2: People like him.

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Speaker 1: So how are you feeling about this Middle Earth the snooze.

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Speaker 5: There's a point in time where I was pretty stoked

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to be getting more Middle Earth content because I definitely

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not as hard pressed to gainst the Hobbit movies as

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most people are. I definitely don't think they are on

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any wavelength the Satan as the Lord of the Rings trilogy,

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that's an whole entire league of its own. But I

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always am down to see kind of more more expansion

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with this world and whatnot, which is why I'm kind

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but this doesn't have enough juice I feel like nowadays

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to kind of be keeping me overly excited. I worry

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that we could run the risk of it being CGI

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fest like The Hobbit rather going practical, but I'm hoping

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that if they do this, they stick with that Lord

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of the Rings. I'd even say Rings of Power has

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a pretty good degree of practical out practicality usage in there,

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with the props and the sets and all that kind

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Speaker 2: So I think that's absolutely what this needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Needs to be there cgi orcs because I had read

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somewhere the reason they did that for the hobbit is

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because Jackson actually hated the way the Orcs looked in

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the original true why they looked so good. He thought

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they looked too human, Like, yeah, so that's why. And

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he's a producer on this movie. He's not directing, but

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he's producing, and I think he might be at least

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writing the story. So I think you're getting CGI orcs

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and just saves money too, unfortunately, But yeah, it rings

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the power.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck is this piece of ship?

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be us looking at those orgs.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Knows me and you will go. Hey, I respect that, Peter,

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but I want to go.

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Speaker 1: But even then, and he's fucking gollm like he's like

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cgi mocap king, like he's like, yeah, let's make cap.

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Speaker 2: All these motherfuckers and the talk weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll voice them all I did in the books, right,

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he doesn't Lord of the Rings that I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. We're just gonna pay for these four actors. I'm

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gonna the voice of all these orcs. Easy see so

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much funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, quarter billion for us, paycheck in the bank.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just I don't know if there's enough

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poll that's all when it comes to the castings though,

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I mean Anya Taylor Joy trying to think who who

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would she be playing in this role? Would she be

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playing like a Hobbit or something?

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Speaker 1: To give you a couple of options, but I'll give

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it to you again. The rumor had been either young Galladra.

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Speaker 2: Or young Arwin. So there you go.

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Speaker 4: Not ovin complexion.

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Speaker 1: She's definitely playing a fucking off man, playing a fucking

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olf for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just the young Galadriel. I just can't

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I can't see that at all.

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Speaker 2: Who's your I feel like, who's your fucking dad again?

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Who's Arwind's dad? Yeah? Ron, you know that'd be cool.

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Speaker 4: That could got the forehead for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 5: Up, missus Alron.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's Maybe it's Arwen's mom. I don't know,

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but I think it's gonna be it's gonna be an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no's mom. I guess like a flashback, it could be.

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Speaker 1: And maybe Kate wins maybe wins to play the same

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character though, right, Oh they could share that, right fash mcdania,

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and then you get Kate Winsle when she's the adult

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with young air Goorn.

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Speaker 5: That's true, that's Friday situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bodies with air Gorn. I like, I like.

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Speaker 4: It was just the plot of Freaky Friday chas introduced

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to the Lord of the Rings realm.

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Speaker 2: And even in.

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Speaker 3: The movie, it's just the titles like what a predicament

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We've done ourselves into when he's trying to work on

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magic to flip him back, and it's just pure comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like, it's like a nineties comedy.

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Speaker 2: It's called like that rock dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Laugh your socks off, folks, hunt for column, Laugh your

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socks off.

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Speaker 2: I'd be so down for what the fuck.

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Speaker 5: I like the idea that it could be like her

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playing an elf like r Win, and then you have

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that relationship dynamic between Aragorn and her and that younger standing.

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a few years before uh no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: A few weeks before Fellowship of the Ring.

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Speaker 5: Not years in a few weeks, And that's just I mean,

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you don't just change that freaking quick. But I will say,

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when I looked at this this casting for the boy here,

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Lee Woodhall is like, you know, he does look like

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a little Vego, But it's just the weeks factor.

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Speaker 2: I just can't sound the weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is some similar I think the eyes, he does,

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some of the facial Harry does body.

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Speaker 2: Structure in a white lotus.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh is he a body structure? Not at all,

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though he's a bigger like stalkier guy. Viiga Morrison is

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a slender guy. So that's one thing that I don't

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Speaker 2: So m mmm yeah.

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Speaker 5: But by Kate Winsley being in here, I think that's great.

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me tell you, wait, what is.

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Speaker 4: This Harry Potter the Goblet of Fire thing that he

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was in in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Maybe audiobook? Probably this is video? Okay, he's an a video.

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Speaker 5: Does that mean