Speaker 1: All right, next up, Kirkland, we're getting han heavy hunt
for Gollum. It's no longer just a thing in the wind.
It's no longer just an idea that it's been always happening,
but it's like really happening now because we're getting casting.
So Kate Winslet came from a sea tier, but then
it got backed up. So all these rumors came from
that same Scooper. So I'm gonna say, what story came
from a B tier.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: They're very likely happening or happening. But so Kate Winslet
is added as the female lead. No role yet, what
it's been, so not sure if it's someone we know.
Some people of speculate it's like Airgwin's mother. Some people
of speculates this character. But sil Kate Winsley is a
female lead with any Taylor.
Speaker 2: Joy who on you Tailor Joy?
Speaker 1: Because Taylor's trying to push that narrative earlier this week,
Aunt tail Joy isn't there. We don't know if that's
a new character, if she's Arwin, if she's a Gladial.
So we don't know about that, And then I got it. Oh,
I didn't write his name down. Fuck, But uh, I
think it's like Leo, oh yeah, Leah woodell As that
is who it is. Would All, yeah, Leo would All.
We talked about this, and it looks like it's actually
happening where air Gorn is getting recast. Apparently this Leo
wood All guy is the top choice. I can kind
of see. It looks wise, I think. And this I'll
start with Kirkland. My only I have multiple hanks with
this movie. But the Hunt for goalm takes place relatively
close to the Fellowship of the Ring.
Speaker 2: Right, Kirkland. Oh yeah, So my issue here is that
Antaea Joy is young Arwin.
Speaker 1: Well that's my thing, right, Like if she's young Arwin,
or if she's young Gladal and he's young Ara Gorn,
it's like it's that weird thing. Where again, too, Elijah
Wood's coming back, Ian McCown's coming back, So it's like
half the cast is gonna be the same actors playing
the old characters, and then we're gonna have like Rwin
and Aragorne new characters or sort of new actors looking younger.
But it's supposed to be like what you're supposed to
tell me in weeks later, that guy turns to Diego Morrison,
Like I had a big enough problem with Sol Lucus.
Isn't Soul like five years before New Hope something like that, Yes,
And I can never like in that movie just looks vibe.
I could never see all Marin record get the Hansoul
at least that's five week or five years. It is
like five weeks at most, like maybe less than that.
So how do you feel about some of these castings?
Eric Kirkland as the Middle Earth guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't feel super hot on them. I feel
like I've been in a weird place just overall with
this project. I feel like just since the time that
it was announced to where we are now, the spark
is just kind of kind of faded. Honestly, it's I
don't know. I don't know if it's because Rings of
Power or something, but it's just like I don't want
to get too hyped on something like this because I
feel like it'll just set myself up for disappointment, and
especially in the fact of like thinking about how close
this would be to the events of like the Fellowship
of the Ring, and like we're completely recasting characters that
you know, again, it's impossible to do this, but like
these characters don't really age in the cases of like
a glad Reel or like like you're saying a young Gladial,
It's like, no, the gladual would be the exact same
age actually, like like you know, technically she's like an
elth that just lives pretty.
Speaker 2: Similar thirty year old territory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like Eric Goren, like, yeah, I can see
this guy is a ranger, but like to be thinking
him as Vigle Morton, Like I I just feel like
it's going to be a solo thing, and I feel
like that's probably gonna be the general audience's perception. And
unless it's what's your finger doing up in there?
Speaker 2: Because you never answered me, did you? Are you? And
Shaye Watchham Vladimir? No? Okay? Because you I said something
and you're like because I, I.
Speaker 3: Oh, I just saw it on the on the Telli as.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's in that as the male love interest. That's
what I's gonna I ask you if you had any
recollection recollation of him, but okay, continue sorry now? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, So I I I feel like I I can
picture Kate Winslet in this type of universe, like I
feel like you know her, like she just feels like
like she would fit in a Middle Earth realm obviously
on your army, Like, I am just interested in any
project that has her in there. We'll see what, like
who she is. I will see this regardless. But I
think it's Yeah, I think it's a hard ask for
me to get to that level where I'm like nine
out of ten hype, like, holy fuck, this project is
gonna be amazing, Like, I just don't think I'm gonna
get there. Uh really, like really, any announcement I don't
think really get me there unless yeah, I don't think
anything could really get.
Speaker 2: Me directed by Venom, there be Carns director, any.
Speaker 1: Sort of don't forget that, that would Animal Farm director.
Speaker 3: Oh you already is the director?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he is the director. Yeah, I forget about
that now.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's like retrospective now, but like now, knowing what
we know, would you have rabbed them just said we're
gonna do the Hunt for Gollum, but it's gonna be
kind of a reboot where it is set before Fellowship,
but we.
Speaker 2: Don't want to use as actors. We're gonna do our
own things.
Speaker 1: So we can kind of play because that's where I
am now, is seeing everything going down, So.
Speaker 3: Especially having like half you know half Yeah, it's from
ther og. It's like they're trying to get away with like, no,
this is the same universe, the same story, the exact
same Peter Jackson universe. You know that you've seen like
you could treat this as a prequel to Fellowship when
you're doing your marathons, kids, like no, no, no, no,
don't try and fool us that this is this is
like Sony Universe type stuff where we're not incorporating this
into our MCU type Lord of the Yeah, and like
I canotical events, I.
Speaker 1: Get it, because like you can't have Vegle even if
he's dahs run around flipping around, Like I get it.
Speaker 2: He's like a six year old guy, so you can't.
He's not aganda again, he'd be bringing his.
Speaker 1: Whole fucking leg this time kicking that helmet, Like I
get it. It's just that's where it's like in conception.
I'm so curious how this is gonna play when we
do get there, because I think it's gonna be that
marketing of like you remember Middle or if you remember
these but then it's like, is that that air goorn again?
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure. Maybe they're gona play with it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna say the Hunt for Goal was actually
like two years before.
Speaker 2: But that's like Star Wars ship where Darth.
Speaker 1: Vader's like, oh, since the last time I saw you,
I was the mad so knew where the apprentice and
now it's changed. But then they're like, oh, well, and
Obi won the TV show. He actually meant like he
saw him only like a couple of years ago. It
wasn't the twin And it's like, all right, I guess
you can say that, but that's just some bullshit line.
So like when Grandav says to Fro like I searched
for the creature Galm everywhere, I take that as like
that's recently. Is he gonna say that that was, Oh well,
a couple of years ago, I searched for gall and
I couldn't find them. So it's just like again, you're
they're walking on glass here.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like something that I appreciate about
Lord of the Rings as a kid, you know, and
I was pretty young, but like I didn't I feel
like I didn't know a lot of the actors who
played those characters going yes, But to me it was
like this actor, like is this person? And for many
of them it took like years before I saw them
and other stuff and like, oh, this is like an
actor who does this other stuff. I feel like that's
kind of the case with the Rings of Power as
well the Hall bit. I feel like they just switched
that up a little bit where there's more people. I mean,
I was just personally familiar with and so I don't know,
there's something like I loved Aya, but I don't there's
something weird to me about her being in here. You know,
it's just such a known actress. I've seen her in
so many things, and so obviously that is like a
personal bias thing for me. So just as much as
I love her, I think it's gonna take me out
of it a bit. And like, I think so much
of the part of the fantasy for me Lord of
the Rings and buying into it is that I didn't
really know the actors. And you know, maybe they transformed
the looks a lot and they look very different, but
Alanna has a very distinct look obviously, so it's hard
to blend her in it all.
Speaker 3: Kate Winsley.
Speaker 4: Maybe I think I think I agree with her. I
think it's like a pretty good pick vibes wise, and
I feel like, you know, I've only seen her in
a couple things, even though she's like a very famous actress,
So maybe that will work better for me. But it
is weird to mixmatch the two. And I guess we
got it like a little bit of that with the Hobbit,
and obviously we know how that went, but this is
a kind of a different thing. But yeah, the more,
I don't know, it's hard to get excited about this
movie because it just feels like it's gonna be extremely
messy and it feels.
Speaker 2: Very cash grabby.
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe it'll be a fun time. I
hope it doesn't. I don't think it will detract from
my love for Lord of the Rings because I've already
had that Hobbit trilogy to burn through some of those feelings. Yeah,
and like, you know, I get Rings of Power, which
has like some good stuff in there that I like,
or you know, some animated movies that were want to
go through and get some different vibes and flavors, flavors
of it. So this is gonna be a weird movie,
but you know what, I'm probably gonna see with a
couple of buddies and I think we're gonna have a
good time, so or at least it'll be it'll be
a time, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And no, Dylan, I'm with you one hundred percent on
the on any because they all in conception, these are
all great actors or great actresses. The Leo would all guy,
I think he's like fine in this Vladimir show, like
he was. He was good, but non Away was like,
oh I could see him as err.
Speaker 2: Going, you know.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, Like he's a solid like romantic
male lead here.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you for That's why I also hate
the Disney Plus stuff, Like I know we always meme
about him, but like I hated seeing Jack Black pop
up in Star Wars.
Speaker 2: Because to me, that just broke the emersion so much
and even.
Speaker 1: Lizzle to that fact, like Lizo the same thing, like,
so I wouldn't want the same thing here, and I
don't think like Anya is that memeable.
Speaker 2: But at the same point, it is like, oh, you're
on into Joy, You're not that character. So for me,
Stars and Lord of the Rings. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I always like either someone we've seen a little bit
or completely unknown, like how we were with Finnon, like
John Bay or Daisy Ridley, where it's just like are
you lost cries He's like, okay, he did x Mockino,
but he was just like just starting to become maybe
somebody he wasn't in a bunch of stuff, right, And.
Speaker 4: That's a good point, Like, yeah, Lord of the Rings
and Star Wars, how they differ from something like a
MCU or something which very much like the opposite side
of things like get the biggest star possible. I mean
they do get some unknowns obviously in the mix too or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they still go like we have Paedro Pascal.
Speaker 4: So it's like a very different strategy with the casting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like it's like the character, right,
It's like, Okay, if this character is big enough, we
can get Tom Hall and inspire men.
Speaker 2: That carries it.
Speaker 1: Where it's like okay, Captain Marvel, let's get pre Lars
and she just went an Oscar.
Speaker 2: People kind of know her. Now, Let's like.
Speaker 1: Get a name or even strange, right, like let's get
cumber Batch.
Speaker 2: People like him.
Speaker 1: So how are you feeling about this Middle Earth the snooze.
Speaker 5: There's a point in time where I was pretty stoked
to be getting more Middle Earth content because I definitely
not as hard pressed to gainst the Hobbit movies as
most people are. I definitely don't think they are on
any wavelength the Satan as the Lord of the Rings trilogy,
that's an whole entire league of its own. But I
always am down to see kind of more more expansion
with this world and whatnot, which is why I'm kind
of like game for Rings of Power to a certain degree,
but this doesn't have enough juice I feel like nowadays
to kind of be keeping me overly excited. I worry
that we could run the risk of it being CGI
fest like The Hobbit rather going practical, but I'm hoping
that if they do this, they stick with that Lord
of the Rings. I'd even say Rings of Power has
a pretty good degree of practical out practicality usage in there,
with the props and the sets and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I think that's absolutely what this needs to be.
Speaker 1: Needs to be there cgi orcs because I had read
somewhere the reason they did that for the hobbit is
because Jackson actually hated the way the Orcs looked in
the original true why they looked so good. He thought
they looked too human, Like, yeah, so that's why. And
he's a producer on this movie. He's not directing, but
he's producing, and I think he might be at least
writing the story. So I think you're getting CGI orcs
and just saves money too, unfortunately, But yeah, it rings
the power.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is this piece of ship?
Speaker 3: It's gonna be us looking at those orgs.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I don't.
Speaker 2: Knows me and you will go. Hey, I respect that, Peter,
but I want to go.
Speaker 1: But even then, and he's fucking gollm like he's like
cgi mocap king, like he's like, yeah, let's make cap.
Speaker 2: All these motherfuckers and the talk weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll voice them all I did in the books, right,
he doesn't Lord of the Rings that I don't know.
Speaker 2: Amazing. We're just gonna pay for these four actors. I'm
gonna the voice of all these orcs. Easy see so
much funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, quarter billion for us, paycheck in the bank.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just I don't know if there's enough
poll that's all when it comes to the castings though,
I mean Anya Taylor Joy trying to think who who
would she be playing in this role? Would she be
playing like a Hobbit or something?
Speaker 1: To give you a couple of options, but I'll give
it to you again. The rumor had been either young Galladra.
Speaker 2: Or young Arwin. So there you go.
Speaker 4: Not ovin complexion.
Speaker 1: She's definitely playing a fucking off man, playing a fucking
olf for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just the young Galadriel. I just can't
I can't see that at all.
Speaker 2: Who's your I feel like, who's your fucking dad again?
Who's Arwind's dad? Yeah? Ron, you know that'd be cool.
Speaker 4: That could got the forehead for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 5: Up, missus Alron.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's Maybe it's Arwen's mom. I don't know,
but I think it's gonna be it's gonna be an
alf Taylor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no's mom. I guess like a flashback, it could be.
Speaker 1: And maybe Kate wins maybe wins to play the same
character though, right, Oh they could share that, right fash mcdania,
and then you get Kate Winsle when she's the adult
with young air Goorn.
Speaker 5: That's true, that's Friday situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bodies with air Gorn. I like, I like.
Speaker 4: It was just the plot of Freaky Friday chas introduced
to the Lord of the Rings realm.
Speaker 2: And even in.
Speaker 3: The movie, it's just the titles like what a predicament
We've done ourselves into when he's trying to work on
magic to flip him back, and it's just pure comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like, it's like a nineties comedy.
Speaker 2: It's called like that rock dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah this.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Laugh your socks off, folks, hunt for column, Laugh your
socks off.
Speaker 2: I'd be so down for what the fuck.
Speaker 5: I like the idea that it could be like her
playing an elf like r Win, and then you have
that relationship dynamic between Aragorn and her and that younger standing.
But then, like you guys said, it supposed to be
a few years before uh no, no, no.
Speaker 2: A few weeks before Fellowship of the Ring.
Speaker 5: Not years in a few weeks, And that's just I mean,
you don't just change that freaking quick. But I will say,
when I looked at this this casting for the boy here,
Lee Woodhall is like, you know, he does look like
a little Vego, But it's just the weeks factor.
Speaker 2: I just can't sound the weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is some similar I think the eyes, he does,
some of the facial Harry does body.
Speaker 2: Structure in a white lotus.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh is he a body structure? Not at all,
though he's a bigger like stalkier guy. Viiga Morrison is
a slender guy. So that's one thing that I don't
think matches at all is the body type.
Speaker 2: So m mmm yeah.
Speaker 5: But by Kate Winsley being in here, I think that's great.
You know, yeah, she's she's got a fucking portfolio. Let
me tell you, wait, what is.
Speaker 4: This Harry Potter the Goblet of Fire thing that he
was in in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Maybe audiobook? Probably this is video? Okay, he's an a video.
Speaker 5: Does that mean