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Speaker 2: Just a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: The weather, summer sun. Hey, if you ever were a pilot,

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they'll tell you the sun causes all of it. It's

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big ball of flames in the air. It causes everything.

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Speaker 2: It drives.

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Speaker 3: Now, when we went to the break, Chad Adams, your

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guesto sitting in for Pete Calendar. Hope he's enjoyed his

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time off News Talk eleven ten ninety nine three WBT

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seven O four five seven oh eleven ten. The Call

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in numbers whatever you're doing to live, thrive and survive

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five seven to eleven to the Call in Numbers. We

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appreciate you listening now. You know, as I'm sitting here

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studio doing my thing, all of you out there are

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doing yours that are listening. Whether you're out there on

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the road, you're driving around, you might be listening on

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the app, on the WBT app, you might be listening online.

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You could be anywhere literally listening to this show on

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this amazing station. But if you're at work, maybe you're

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at home, whatever you're doing, all of these issues, you

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have a perspective on those. The problem with social media

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is has elevated so many people to subject matter experts,

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primarily the listeners of a show like this are looking

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at their own lives. What do I think about these issues,

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How do I feel about what's going on? What do

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I feel is important, especially if you have kids. If

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you have kids, you've got so much coming at you.

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As I said yesterday, and I told my sister over

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the weekend, you know what, you may not want to

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be political, but if you have kids, they're bringing the

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politics home to you. They're bringing the stuff. That's one

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thing to be spoon fed, you know, Aristotle and Archimedes

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and math and geography and science and all that. It's

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another to be bringing home this gobblbee gook political stuff

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and dropping it in your living room where you have

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to kind of take this you know, backstep and figure

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out what the hell just happened. When your kid doesn't

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think you should open the door for a woman because

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well I would. Oh no, you're saying something negative about women,

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or your daughter says hey, there's any number of things.

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I don't want to get into it too much. But

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you may not want to be political, but I guarantee

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you it's coming to you so and I say this

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and this next story. It is not going to make

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you feel better. I'll guarantee you it's not going to

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make you. It's the Washington Examiner tends to be a

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conservative viewpoint.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that up front.

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Speaker 3: But Byron York has long been a journalist, leans more

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right now than probably ever before. It's I don't think

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his perspectives are extreme. You can see him on on

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Twitter and other or x I guess is the way

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to say.

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Speaker 2: And he and he he.

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Speaker 3: Has documented where the political left's activism has taken them.

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And you could remember you've seen if you, if you,

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if you lean conservative, whatsoever, you've seen the clips where

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Maxine Waters when Trump first got elected, when she's screaming

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at a small gathering to say, you need to find

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them in restaurants or wherever, and you need to tell

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them they're not welcome here.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a call to interrupt an attack. And Betsy

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vote got attack. They were self with Chuck Schumer, you know,

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stood on the steps of the Supreme's Court and basically

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said you're gonna regret the day. It was a threat

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to we know you are gorsts, we know who you are.

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Comey buried. It was a threat. He was issuing threats

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on the steps of the courthouse. That's why the left

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always screams about Trump, right Trump's trying to people hate immigrants. Know,

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he's trying to say it's a bad ombrace and there

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are but words these people. So here's where we go

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where the political left. And again I frame this with

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respect to where Democrats in North Carolina right now, they

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have a wall between themselves and their national Party and

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they're doing and the political party, the DNC, well is

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well aware that they cannot in many parts of this

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country allow that wall to shatter because if all of

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a sudden, the races next year, the governor's race, the

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Senate race, well, if those races and there's no governor's

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race next year, starck Sorry, if the Senate race becomes

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a referendum on people like Mumdani and the political left

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and where it finds itself, no Democrat will well, only

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maybe Chapel Hill, maybe a few precincts in Charlotte, Asheville, Wilmington,

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the large cities, but it will be a blood letting

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for Democrats if next year is a referendum on the

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left of the new Left. So there has to be

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this wall of separation between people like Josh Stein and

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Jeff Jackson and their Democrat politics and those of Mamdani

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and California, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, AOC. I'll guarantee you, promise

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you this. AOC and Jasmine Crockett will not be coming

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to North Carolina and speaking with Roy Cooper on stage.

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They will do everything in their power to stop that.

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So here are the disturbing glimpses, the disturbing glimpses of

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Democrat Annger. We know many Democrats were stunned when Donald

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Trump won a second term.

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Speaker 2: This is Byron York.

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Speaker 3: We know many are still angry about it, but we're

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just now learning how angry some of them are it's

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not just grandstanding Democrat lawmakers like Jasmine Crockett actually reports

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that quote at town halls in their districts and in

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one on one meetings with constituents and activists. Crockett's more

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centrist Democrat House colleagues are quote facing a growing thrum

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of demands to the rules, fight dirty, and not be

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afraid to get hurt.

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Speaker 2: End quote quote.

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Speaker 3: Our own base is telling us that what we're doing

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is not good enough, said one Democrat lawmaker out of

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nine quoted in the Axious articles. Some of them have

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suggested what we really need to do is be willing

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to get shot in protest around ice of facilities. That

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there needs to be blood to grab attention of the

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press of the public.

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 3: Another lawmaker told, and this is Axios is reporting. This

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isn't this person that Byron York's rephrasing, what actually is

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reported that ACXIOS constituents say quote civility isn't working and

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to get ready for quote violence, to fight to protect

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our democracy and another set it's like the Roman colicy

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on people just want more and more of this spectacle. Obviously,

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these are Democrats who have moved beyond the defeat them

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at the ballot box stage of politics, and even beyond

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the protest by civil disobedient stage. They're ready to turn

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a political fight into a physical one. Violence is already

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going on and Alvarado, Texas, a militant group broadly allied

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with Democrat views, launched what officials call a coordinated attack

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on the Ice Prairie Land Attention Center on the fourth

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of July. According to court documents, it started at ten

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thirty PM when a group of ten to twelve ANTIFA

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radicals dressed in all black began shooting fireworks towards the building.

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Some began to vandalize parked cars when unarmed ICE workers

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called nine to one one and Alvarado Police Department officer arrived.

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Speaker 2: Immediately after the.

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Speaker 3: APD officer got out of his vehicle, an assailant in

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the woods opened fire, shooting the APD officer in the neck.

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Then another government also opened fire at the unarmed Department

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of Homeland Security correctional officers. In total, the assailants shot

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approximately twenty to thirty rounds at the correctional officers. Police

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later found two ar style rifles and spent casings in

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the nearby woods. When the radicals ran away, police got them.

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Some were still in the woods and some were escaping

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down a nearby road, including seven suspects who were dressed

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in black military style clothing. Some had body armor on,

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some covered in mud, some were armed, some had radios.

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The officer was hitting the next survived, and ten suspects

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were charged with attempted murder, the violent tip of the

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protests against the Trump enforcement of immigration. Another example of

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recent radicalization include far left Free Palestine extremists Elias Elias Rodriguez,

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who is accused of killing two Israeli embassy staff members

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outside the Capitol Jewish Museum in Washington. Luigi Mangioni, considered

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a hear by many on the left, the accused killer

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of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York

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City on December fourth, And this goes on and on.

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So what we're seeing, and that's just I'm only getting

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to have I'm not going to read the entirety of

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the column. But what you see is an escalation. Once

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you cannot be civil, you get angry, and once your

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anger is not met with public support, it turns to outrage.

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And when your outrage is unmatched by public support, you

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turn to violence, and that's the radical left. And this

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is where people like Cliburne and others. At some point

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the Democrats need to stand up to their own. There's

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plenty of division on the right. I'm not going to

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pretend there's not. There is, but the political situation on

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the left is damn near beyond unhealthy.

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Speaker 2: It's bad, all right.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to kind of rip the band aid

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be more I mean, I've really tried to reach to

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be more than fair. I'm going to say something that

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people in the audience, if they lean left, are going

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to say, Oh, we're not surprised. People on the right,

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we knew it. I think that the most substantive wrecking

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ball that's been taken to the DC establishment in my life,

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to him as a guy that's in the Oval office

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right now, I had as many questions about him in

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twenty sixteen as anyone after the first term, looking at

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what he was attempting to do and what was done

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to him. I've never seen the entirety of a given

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political class be so hell bent on destroying a single

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individual as I have this.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 3: He can be bombassed. He can say outrageous things, many

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of them have. Depends on what the definition of the

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word is is right, You heard Bill Clinton say that

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almost it's some outrageous stuff. But they all knew they'd

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play the game. You could play ball with them with

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this president, he's he's not a pole driven guy. And

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he says, it's so refreshing to hear a president that

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will answer a question, to hear any politician that'll just

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answer it didn't consult the polls. It's the Democrats, you know,

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constantly are using these poll tested phrases, and you see it.

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They all say the same thing, and it's like, are

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you capable of independent thought?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But the most significant crime at the highest level to

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me and Democrats ought to be as incensed as anyone,

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is the cover up of the Biden mental detachment for

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the most powerful nation in the world to not know

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who's in charge. We had a duly elected president who

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was clearly mentally vacant, who everyone who had een could

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see saw it. You could see it, the wandering off stage,

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the incoherence about answering the you know, and then he would.

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Speaker 2: If he wants.

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Speaker 3: The most coherent he ever is is when he's angry,

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from being Joe to angry Joe. And that was the

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only and it was an inability and that comes from

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an inability to gauge your emotional tracking that in order

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to be taken serious, you have to be angry. It's

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this overreaction to things. Clearly he had issues. His staff

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knew he has had issues.

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Speaker 2: His wife knew it. They knew it.

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Speaker 3: And the most telling, and this is incredulous to me,

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that who had access to the football? Not to me,

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whenever anything goes sideways, where's the football? That's the number

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one question anyone should ask? Who has the football? Who

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can authorize a nuclear strike on another country? Who can

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the president has that ultimately, and he wasn't all there.

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Speaker 2: So who was doing.

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Speaker 3: Who had access to all of that? Who was driving

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the ship? It was it was an unelected individual or individuals.

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It was a team of conspira co conspirators. It's treason.

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They were circumventing the entirety of the US Constitution. Why

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there's not more outrage about this is beyond me to

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anyone who seriously looks at this. It's beyond them. You

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hear Jonathan Turley talk about this all the time. Completely

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subverted the US Constitution, completely bypassed chain of command, completely

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went around the will of the American people, and just

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left a doddering guy up there wandering off the halls

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of the White House while they were doing everything. Who

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were they and what gives more credence to this is

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what happened today. So there was an oversight committee meeting,

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the House Oversight Committee. The Biden's physition, Kevin O'Connor, went

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to a closed door he was subpoena. He goes to

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a closed door meeting where they're asked that at lasted

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less than an hour, it should have been hours long.

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What happened, Well, the guy walked out. His lawyer said

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one thing. He pleaded the fifth a question after question

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after question, anything about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Hastien. I'm going to read.

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Speaker 3: So James Comber comes out, and many of the people

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know that Cumber's been on this committee. Chairman James Comber

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from Kentucky has been on this circuit or this belief

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system for a very long time. I'm going to read

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the first two questions that were asked, were you ever

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told to lie about the president's health? He asked the

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president's physician. The president's physician played the fifth. I cannot

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answer that question on the grounds that it may impugne

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my imply my guilt or whatever.

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Speaker 2: He would not answer that question.

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Speaker 3: Second question, did you ever believe that President Biden was

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unfit to.

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Speaker 2: Execute his duty?

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Speaker 3: I can't answer the question on the grounds that might

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answer my incriminating So he clearly that that I mean.

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I know in America is you have to prove something.

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But this isn't a court of law. Include the fifth

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but it is. Again, it's it's really unpressed for this

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level love cover up to go unanswered by the way

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investigations were announced. I'm not a big fan of announcing

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investigations into James Comy and Brennan. The investigations announced, I'd

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rather you see indictments or prosecutions or arrest or something.

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But they are looking at those folks in the way

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they conducted themselves for the past few years, using their

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positions of government power to punish and go after and

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use all of the resources to go after certain individuals.

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Speaker 2: It looks like we don't know. But again the.

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Speaker 3: President's physician goes before the House Oversight Committee. They ask

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him questions, he won't answer them, pleads the fifth and

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they say, you know, hey, that his lawyer said. This

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is not an admission of guilt, but a response to

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what they say was an unprecedented investigatory scope that could

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have violated the bounds of patient position privilege. Now, if

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they were to cross that bridge and go to they,

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he could easily say, hey, I can't answer that because

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it's patient physician confidence. Jelly with ask him, were you

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pressured by anyone outside of that? Any wouldn't answer. That's

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a very different if I say, if you can't answer

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questions about the president's health, Okay, I get that, were

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you pressured by anybody else?

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Speaker 2: You can answer that question.

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Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with patient confidentiality, zero to

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Speaker 3: Now, a good friend of Mitt will be joining us

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in the next hour. His name's Donald Vandervartci. He was,

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and I've known him for many years. He was working

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in back when it was the Department of environment Natural Resources,

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it was Deaner. It later becomes dq the Department of

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Environmental Quality. He becomes the secretary running that entire department

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for the state of North Carolina. He's got more degrees

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than you can shake a stick out. Just he's He's

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such a down to earth individual, easy to talk to, funny,

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great sense of humor, but at the same time, highly educated,

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very profound in his approach to stuff. And so we're

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going to talk a little bit about, you know, what's

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happening in North Carolina, what he sees on the regulatory front. Now,

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of course, you know, and Cooper was in. He's out,

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even though a stellar career there. He's still active in

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North Carolina, lives in the Wilington area, but he works

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in Raleigh. But just a very interesting gentleman. I've spoken

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to him on many occasions about the Coastalaria Management Authority,

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which is an agency that has very little, if any oversight,

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that controls a great deal of what happens in the coast.

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You find this that you know, the corp of engineers

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used to be very very Hey, here's how to solve

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the problem. Now it's become very political, and we see

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this kind of erosion. We bear witness to the erosion

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of property rights vis the environmental regulations, some of which

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have no bearing on making society better in any substantive way.

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I mean a good example that is the Endangered Species Act. Oh,

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before your heads explode, hear me out on this Dangered

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Species Act. A great piece of legislation. In some ways,

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it recognizes that, hey, we need to be aware of

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certain species that are being affected by over a hunting

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or whatever, whatever the case may be. But the problem

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with it is that it's not necessarily about the species.

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It's about where the species is. If if on one

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side of the mountain there's five thousand red toed knucklehead

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squirrels and on the other side of the mountain there's two,

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then massive, you know, regulatory issues kick in and on

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that side of the mountain, everybody loses anything. Even though

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the species the red tod knucklehead squirrel, which doesn't exist.

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I'm using it to make a point. There's plenty of them.

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They just happen to exist, not there. They exist here

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plentiful not so plentiful over here, and that's a problem.

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A really good example of this is down in Brunswick County.

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The government was doing so there's a little town called

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Bowling Spring Lake and it's funny it's not a lake

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anymore because it was the dam was destroyed by a

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hurricane and they've never rebuilt it, or they haven't for

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years now. And the irony there is again government not

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being able to get stuff done that is not redone.

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So you drive through the lake and there's no lake.

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There's the bridge, but there's no lake. Now, having said

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that the government was going to do a survey geographical

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surveys in this area to look for the red kackatd woodpecker,

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not the pilot one, but the kakai anyway, they were

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looking to see where suitable habitat might be. So the

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goal red headed, red headed red cockadi woodpecker are there

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is there suitable habitat in this area?

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Speaker 2: They put it on the map.

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Speaker 3: Yes this is suitable. Now, when you get into people's

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property and you say that area is suitable, that means

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that individual can no longer build a house on that lot.

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They can no longer. So if people had saved up money,

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had a lot down near the coast, and they wanted

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to build on it. One day, all of a sudden,

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if that lot was considered suitable habitat, you're not allowed

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to build on it.

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Speaker 2: So what happened.

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Speaker 3: What was the net result of the surveys that were

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going to be done in that area of your great state.

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It was that there was a record number of people

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clearcutting their land and their property. Why because if it's

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not suitable habitat, they can build on it. So what

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did the Endangered Species Act and the guidelines therein create.

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What it actually did was create a situation that made

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it less likely for that species to proliferate. The truth

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of the matter is had there been exceptional or the

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ability to build and say, hey, this is suitable habitat,

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but we're looking at the you know, if it's still

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ninety percent suitable or eighty percent, so whatever, that's better

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than zero. But no, the Endangered Species Act, like all acts,

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like the American with Disabilities Act, these things are so

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pervasive and so aggressive that the deliterious to what actually

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they wanted to achieve. And that's the problem. They never get.

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They never get revised. They never get updated, and they're

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egregiously bad for many of the species and many of

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the people that is affected. If you ever go to

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a hotel that doesn't have a swimming pool, you can

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thank the American with Disabilities Act because they made them

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put in a ludicrous crane that they have to maintain

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and keep that's very expensive for the one or two

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people that might use it. It's hardly ever used can be.

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But because of that, so a lot it was cheaper

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for the hotel to just fill it in with cement,

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not have a pool. That's just the nature of the

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way that game gets played. Now we get back, I

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do want to continue down, not with the Endangered Species Act,

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but to talk about the confusion and the ways, and

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we've talked about this the entirety of the program so far,

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how society and how the clickbait world and how social

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media and everybody's opinion matters, how it's made things much

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more confused, using then they need to be, and there's

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a perpet in perpetuity, they desire to push people into

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more ignorance. And I don't mean that people are here.

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I think they choose to be or are selectively ignorant

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and don't confuse me. My mind's already made up. Don't

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confuse me with acts you know kind of mentality you know.

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Do have a wonderful listener that I can't wait to

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If I understand right, you are a veteran. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: I hear you. Fine.

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had red cock hated with pecker nest or enclaves on

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the impact areas at Fort Bragg, And any time that

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I received a fire mission, I had to go to

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a map that we called the Pecker Woods map and

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the coordinates to make sure that we were not firing

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into a little red goose egg that was a red

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cock heated woodpecker area. It just, uh, you know, here

482
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we are firing artillery with high explosives and somebody actually

483
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got out there in the middle of all this impact

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area when they weren't shooting and figured out that red

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cockaked woodpeckers would be much at home at this area.

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So that's just.

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Speaker 2: Glenn.

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Speaker 3: Did you say you had to check out the picker maps?

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Speaker 4: They were called the pecker woods peckerwood.

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Speaker 2: That still cracks me up.

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Speaker 3: I mean I lived at adjacent to that area in

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Lee County, just north of Fort Bragg, and you could

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you could tell when they were doing shelling and heavy art.

494
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You could always sell when they were ramping up for something.

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Right before a desert storm.

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Speaker 2: It goes crazy crazy. You hear it, You hear you

497
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kind of feel that.

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Speaker 3: Muffled impact stuff, and then it just went silent and said, oh,

499
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something's getting ready to happen. But this is an interesting story, Glenn,

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and I appreciate your call because it is a great

501
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story about the red cockaded woodpecker, and that is that

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the military was doing live train Huh are you there?

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Speaker 2: Baby?

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Speaker 4: Did?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Just I speak quickly sometimes.

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Speaker 3: So the military is doing these live fires, they've done

507
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it for decades and it would spark forest fires, and

508
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those forest fires ended up protecting the long leaf pines.

509
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So these long leaf pines have done very well in

510
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Fort Bragg because now they intentionally burn out underbrush, but

511
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in so doing and protecting the long leaf pine, it

512
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made it better for the woodpeckers. Then the woodpeckers come

513
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in and all of a sudden, the military can't perform

514
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missions because of the woodpecker. But it's considered a success

515
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story for the woodpecker.

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Speaker 2: So if you if you want to.

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Speaker 4: It certainly was a detractor to our training. That's all

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I'll say to.

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Speaker 2: That, to our training.

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Speaker 3: I've Glenn, thank you for the levity that I appreciate

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the call, and thank you for being a part of

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the show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love that the.

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Speaker 3: Cockaded woodpecker story and four Bragg and absolutely true. And

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the military's inadvertent rescuing of the long leaf pines Visa

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VI live fire exercises stat of the GROUNDIFI. By the way,

527
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long long leaf pines are designed by nature, are designed

528
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for forest fires. In other words, when a forest fire

529
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comes through.

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Speaker 2: Two things.

531
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Speaker 3: The long leaf pines have very thick, deep bark that

532
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helped protect the tree. So as underbrush is getting burned,

533
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that pine tree is really good at surviving. Also, the

534
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roots go straight down. That's why not many people grow

535
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,319
them for wood is because the roots go straight down

536
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and so for the first couple of years that tree

537
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barely grows, but underground it's burrowing deeper and deeper and deeper.

538
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Speaker 2: Why they survived drought fairly.

539
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Speaker 3: Well, that's why they're really amazing trees. But they're also

540
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good for woodpeckers, the red cockaded woodpecker. All of a sudden,

541
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just imagine military units going back and say, okay, fellas freeze,

542
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there's three nests downrange.

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Speaker 2: Go find out.

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Speaker 3: You, John, you, Henry, go down range. See if you

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find the nest. We'll shoot around him, look for any

546
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,119
other nest while you're there, and we'll add it up

547
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to the woodpecker nest the woodpecker maps. So we've got

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to have special wood. It's a way to avoid targets.

549
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I guess, so you pretend those are civilians. Maybe, I

550
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don't know, just seems like. And now the funny thing

551
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is the wildlife people consider that a massive success story

552
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because they've got the military working alongside the environmentalist Well,

553
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,880
I guess you would call the military conservationists because they're

554
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,519
conservationists are just environmentalists with guns, right, and they have

555
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,519
really big guns. And so now adjacent properties are joining

556
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the effort. Now, what those adjacent property owners don't understand

557
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:04,599
is if their lands become red cockaded woodpecker habitats, then

558
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they are kind of stuck still. The red kackady woodpecker

559
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doing very well, by the way, kind of like polar bears.

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Speaker 2: People keeping the polar bears are doing very well. They

561
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had been.

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Speaker 3: There's twenty nine thousand polar bears now, so contrary to

563
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what they said in nineteen eighty eight, the polar bears,

564
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I guess they have a way of finding other polar

565
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bears and making baby polar bears. And I didn't mean

566
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,079
to digress, but my mind works that way, and so

567
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I wouldn't give you a little known fact about polar bears,

568
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but I don't want to distract you from what we're

569
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talking about. Again, great story, Glenn, Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you being a part of the broadcast as always.

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Speaker 3: By the way, on the other side of this hour,

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we're gonna get to Donald Van Dervar. He the former

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head of the environment it's DEEQ, the environment of Department

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of Environmental Quality. He led that department under the McCory administration.

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Speaker 2: He's been.

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Speaker 3: He was part of that department for two decades prior

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to becoming head of that department.

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Speaker 2: Highly educated guy.

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Speaker 3: I look forward to the conversation because he has been

580
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on the front lines of these kind of stories like

581
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Glenn talks about. He can tell you at where it's gone,

582
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where it is. We knew the department went from d

583
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,400
NR Department of Environment Natural Resources. They kind of split

584
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the department off and now it's just d EQ. But

585
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I look forward to that conversation with vander Roll on

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the other side of the break.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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