Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the
Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by
Victor Chrysler Dots. Gee Rahm, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks
for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word
about the pirate ship.
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, that nosles leading the way out there?
Speaker 2: Holy shit, what that.
Speaker 3: Woman had a nose that could lead the fucking parade.
Speaker 2: Hen Jesus Christ. You know I've often thought should I
buy another camera? With what money? I'm not sure?
Speaker 4: You can just put it in the window. You could
have done it today. You got an extra camera.
Speaker 2: That's true. I can't. I still can't. Yeah, you know
what if our guest shows up, because the guest is
gonna be on the computer maybe every once in a
while if we see something, will just pop over and
see if he reacts to it. Move the camera here,
that be funny. Oh my god, I have I don't
know what what end is up anymore. I have. I
got to make some some changes and things with my
son living with me. I got it's it's just becoming
a lot here, Bill, now stop one, Okay, I get
three next week. Yeah, I get it. And you've got
tag team people there. You're not alone. You got a
tag team partner.
Speaker 3: She's alone.
Speaker 4: I don't. But I'm just like I'm being a grade
tag team and with Bob.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not even I'm not even
saying I don't mean to selling him complaining, but that
those were choices that were made right and circumstances that be.
But it just you know, and it's good. It's just
a lot, and I have to just change some schedule things.
Speaker 3: When she sent him up, did she say no takebacks?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's terrible. And you know, he's it's
been a year of an academic year of transitions, and
he's done really well. He's actually done really well.
Speaker 4: That's what you were worried about, coming from the non
traditional school to go into five days a week.
Speaker 2: You got it. That is exactly right. And then I
just have had my own. Yeah, I just have those
days once in a while, just a day. I don't know,
if it's the weather, I'm not sure. A little cranky,
you're not drinking as much, That's what it is. That
could definitely, that's definitely true. I am not.
Speaker 3: He's still plumped up.
Speaker 2: I am fifty pounds heavier than I think I've ever
been that I can remember. I don't remember seeing these
numbers on the scale. Welcome, Welcome to the club. A
fuck off, dude, I have got to drop it and
every Okay, So this is I want you to know
that it is a battle for me. It's a battle.
And I must not have been sleeping enough. So I'm
trying to get like seven hours of sleep a night.
But podcast stuff, Jamison stuff. I go home and I
go I'm not gonna eat. I'm not gonna eat when
I get home.
Speaker 3: Do you have energy? Are you lacking energy? Sometimes?
Speaker 2: Sometimes low tea? I probably do. I would like to go.
I've been seriously considering trying some testosterone stuff. I might
be a little pep in my step or I could.
I may have to start first with working out and
see on a regular basis and see because that always
does make me feel better.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll get your fat ass on. Danny's prayerless, so
he'll start praying for your fat to go away.
Speaker 2: It's just gonna melt away. Abrak Jesus so yes. So
I go home and I I say this to myself
all the time. I'm just gonna tell you, like last night,
last night, I think I came here and I'm like,
you know what I ran. I got Jamison all set
up with dinner, made the dinner for him, I said, buddy,
and I grabbed two protein bars. That's all. I'm gonna
eats it eating anymore from here the podcast. Go home,
and I'm like, you know, got them peanut butter and jelly,
and I like a good peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Speaker 3: I almost made the exact same thing that last I
was gonna toast what.
Speaker 2: Peanut butter.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just do the toasted bread yeah, with peanut butter, okay,
and just slap together in a sandwich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, toast your bread and pean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just go that route.
Speaker 2: So I have I picked up some kind of natural
peanut butter. I don't know. So I go home and
I I'll kill you.
Speaker 3: Look at the look at the ingredens. I'll kill you.
Speaker 2: I have a yes, I so I have one of those.
Actually I start out with half one. Then I noticed
I forgot I bought him ice cream, so I have
a spoonful of ice cream, and then I remember that
I bought them the crunchy Cheetos. I like those. So
I decided to sit down and watch a little of
the Warriors Rockets game. As the Rockets are blowing the
Warriors off the court at this point in the game.
I think they did end up winning, but not by
the margin that they were up. I think at halftime
honestly was seventy six to forty two or something close
to that. So I watched that. I eat a handful
of that. Then I go back. Then I have like
two more po jelly sandwiches. I can't fucking stop eating,
and I think I think it's because I'm thinking about it.
I'm thinking about it, and I go, don't eat, don't eat,
don't eat, and it makes me eat. You ever do that, like,
have you just to eat? Well? I mean, do you ever?
Like Like I've always been that way. If people told
me not to do something, it's all I can think about.
I end up fucking doing it. Yep. It's a it's
a bad thing. And the eating after late for me.
Speaker 3: For me, it's don't get drunk. Don't get drunk on
the weekend don't get drunk on the weekend.
Speaker 2: And then I get drunk cocked. Yeah, mine is don't
get drunk and don't pay attention to things that people
are saying to you. Blah blah blah blah blah, and
the next thing I know. Sometimes I'm in the back
of a number.
Speaker 3: I'm doing a set.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a set. I'm doing a set. So anyway, yes,
so that I have, I blew that up like fifty pounds,
and that is a battle, a real battle that I'm
having a real battle. I'm not kidding, And it's it's
just been funny, Like I should write down the shit
that I eat when I go home, just to it'll
make you cry. Come in here and read it, because
it would be that funny.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know. We had a story last night about a
step mom in Florida and the stepmom who got caught
having sex with her fifteen year old step son on
the couch by her husband. They kept calling him a
blue collar husband, the husband the boy. When he woke
up to the father as they're both passed out because
they had been smoking a THC I don't know weed pen,
the boy ran out of the house naked and the
father went out, got him to get some clothes on,
and brought him over to his grandparents and told him
that he ruined his life. The father ruined his life,
and I look, probably probably true, Probably shouldn't have said
it all in The father drank a beer on the
way to dropping off the kid at grandma and Grandpa's house.
I mean, it's just you know that that's sort of
the thing. But then I get a story today from
a great listener, Kim Kim sends me this and it
has nothing it's not it's along the same lines I'll say,
but it's not a step mom thing. And I think
that that stepmom stuff. I swear to God, it's like
porn predicts this shit before it actually happens, or it
puts it in people's in people's minds. But there is
a story. And I will have you guess the state
that a teacher is accused of sending an inappropriate letter
to one of his eleven year old students. What state
do you think that would be? There's only one state
that can be.
Speaker 3: I always want to go Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but this guy, I can't read it
read in part you know, I truly love you no
matter what. That will never change. I can't tell if
this is a teacher who really gives a shit about
the kids and was using words that I don't know
where this school is. I don't know if these kids
are coming from I'll say rough neighborhoods or whatever. I'm
not exactly sure, but I think this is the news
story right here. We will check it out right now.
Speaker 1: Amanate County mother and father are speaking out tonight after
they say their daughter was given an inappropriate letter from
her teacher at bad Gullett Elementary School.
Speaker 5: And on her side has learned that teacher has since
resigned and is being investigated by both the school district
and the Minite County Sheriff's office. Who chaneral is Nicole
Rogers Joys is now live at that elementary school in
Lakewood Ranch.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I didn't realize there was an eleven year
old little girl. But this guy writes, since you made
me mad the other day and made me throw away
my note back to you, I guess I will start over.
I'm sorry for putting slime all over you yesterday. That's
the kid of the teacher. I'm thinking this is the
teachers no, I think we could have some fun together,
but didn't think about getting upset you getting upset with me.
You know, I truly love you, and no matter what,
that will never change. I really love being your teacher.
More importantly, I love how close we have gotten this year.
That this is like, this is something somebody writes in
your yearbook.
Speaker 4: Then ktefund of her? Yeah right, I mean don't they do?
This is this is insane?
Speaker 2: Here we go, Josh.
Speaker 6: Paula, the student's mother, gave the letter to the Mante
County Sheriff's office, but was able to share a copy
with eight On your Side. She says, this letter was
given to her eleven year old daughter by her fifth
grade teacher. Now we are not identifying the student for
her privacy, nor are we identifying the teacher because at
this hour he has not been charged.
Speaker 4: Started when we discovered a two page letter.
Speaker 3: And Mitchell gave it two page letter?
Speaker 2: This does sound like groomy, does it not? Oh? Yeah,
I mean it really does. This is the little insane
here all right? Hang on, our guest has arrived.
Speaker 6: It on your side a copy of the letter, she says,
was given to her fifth grade child from their teacher.
It reads, in part quote, you know I truly love
you no matter what.
Speaker 4: That will never change.
Speaker 6: It's signed love, and then the teacher's name, with a
note encouraging the student to keep the letter a secret.
Speaker 2: Now is it signed?
Speaker 3: Is it signed mister Moran?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or Bill?
Speaker 3: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, but by the way, it's not me.
Speaker 6: I know it's not you, but I don't on your side.
Speaker 3: I putting myself in that boat.
Speaker 2: Incredibly upsetting as a father, As a.
Speaker 3: Dad, Where does your mind go from there?
Speaker 7: What does that even open the door for?
Speaker 8: In your head?
Speaker 2: What can I do legally?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 2: Out of frustration of being in receipt of something like this,
what more could he have done to my daughter?
Speaker 6: School District of Manate County officials sent a.
Speaker 3: Statement, it sounds like his wife friend. What it sounds
like his wife.
Speaker 6: Friend's that high n The next day, the teacher was
reassigned to a non instructional facility with no contact with students.
The statement went on to say the teacher submitted his
resignation on April twenty third, which was approved by the
school board yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy's gotta go. You can't have this reputation.
Even if it was it was simply you can't even
explain it. I swear to god it. I sometimes wonder
how the hell people even get these jobs to begin with,
Like you know what I'm saying, or what goes.
Speaker 3: Through your mind after everything that you've done to get
the job?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Uh, why don't we take a
real quick break. I'm very excited because I want to
kind of I'm hoping. I'm hoping, and I think you
can hear me. We can get into the life and
times of this guest because I know that there's like
a lot of depth here.
Speaker 3: I just heard him say, oh, fuck yourself.
Speaker 2: A lot of depth here. There's a lot and I've
cross paths a little bit and then we sort of
shared a frequency together, and uh, we will get to
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Your rights their commitment. This guy had quite the run
in Rochester radio two times a round Welcome to the podcast, Earl.
David Reed. What's going el, Earl?
Speaker 7: You know, I gotta tell you. You know, a couple
of years ago, you go on this little podcast thing.
Now Billify, it's a big thing you got, you're working
with you now.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what. Man, It's good to see it,
good to see you.
Speaker 2: It's good to see you as well, Earl. Earl is
in incredible shape, has remained in incredible shape. Earl does
some like things that I don't know. Did you talk
about this a lot. I don't know if you did
or not? Bodybuilding, not really.
Speaker 7: I think I did a little bit when I was
on the radio, but I naturally body built. My brother,
who's older than me, goes, he goes, why does a
sixty four year old guy have to walk around with abs?
Speaker 8: He goes, what's that all about? So getting older? But
I'm still training and everything.
Speaker 7: So I mean, and actually it's kind of helping me
out in some other things that I'm kind of branching
off from the stand up front.
Speaker 3: So my wife asked, why a forty eight year old
guy walks around with flabs? So it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: But go ahead, Earl, what were you gonna say no, no,
go ahead, I got you. And then I think Earl
also has trained dogs, which what are there doc dogs?
Am I correct?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: One dog is a doc diving dog and he actually
last year was his last year, so he's done and
ended up retiring like fourth in the world.
Speaker 8: But they're rescue dogs. I mean, it's like if anything.
Speaker 7: Teaches you anything, it's like, you know, people go out
and they buy these dogs that are trained to jump
and everything else like that, and then we got to rescue,
got the rescues, and the rescues all of a sudden,
you know, just knew how to do it, you know,
and and there's pretty much so they end up really
really well. They came up on a truck from Alabama,
for God's sake, and then yeah, that Rescue of Alabama.
Speaker 3: The Underground Railroad of dogs. Was that like the underground
Railroad of dogs?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it was rough when we first got them
because they were racist, you know. And I'll tell you what,
I've never heard the N word bark before.
Speaker 8: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: And they're doing well, they're doing really well. So how
you doing, man, How you hanging in there?
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there. Earl. It's it's been an ADVENTURER.
I've had my getting thick, I had my I'm getting thick.
I had my kid move up from Alabama to live
with me, so he's been living with me now. He
was living in Athens, Alabama, which is in the northern
Alabama near Huntsville. And when I was on radio and
I was doing I was on a station in Huntsville too,
so I would go down there and do stuff out
of their studios, which was like Earl, it was on
I got I think it was on like Farmers Roads.
It was nothing but fields around it. And then I'm like,
I remember fam the GPS going where the fuck where.
Speaker 3: All the time?
Speaker 2: R A C. But Earl, I want to I would
like to talk to you. I've always wanted to like
talk to you, talk to you beyond just you know
radio Hallway stuff. Hey, what's going on? Because you've had
quite the run in comedy and I remember, uh, your
first in Rochester. You're part of Brother Weeza's show and
you were beloved and then whatever happened there. But did
you leave to did you do pilots or something, or
to go out to LA to try out or I listen.
Speaker 7: I've done just about everything you can do in this
business as far as silence is concern. And anyone who
wants to get in this business, I say, fuck you.
It's not a business that likes anybody. It doesn't really care.
Comedy is one of these things now where you know,
it used to kind of branch into this of other stuff,
but there's so many people that are doing it now.
Speaker 8: I mean everyone's a comedian.
Speaker 7: It's like if I put on a marine uniform and
parade up in downtowntown Rochester and not the arene a marine,
I can get screwed. But you know, you can tell
one joke at open mic night and you can call
yourself a comedian. So there's there's a ton of them
out there now. I mean, it's it's kind of getting
really weird because also, you know, the media has like
maybe a good forty or fifty people that they ram
down your throat.
Speaker 8: So now people are.
Speaker 7: Getting to the point where they go, hey, well, oh
it's not one of those forty or fifty, So how
good can they be? And why should I go see them?
Pretty much, so that's the kind of fight that you
have to go on with it. Now you know, and
I've had a real good run. I can't complain if
I could do it all over again a couple of
little laughs instead of little rights.
Speaker 8: But other than that, you know, it all worked out fine.
Speaker 4: I think that's the one thing with Rochester, though, is
Rochester seems to get all the comedians, not just those
forty or fifty, because we've had the clubs here for
so long and Mark's done so well with promoting everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that it it.
Speaker 3: You know, you could go see I can't even remember
the guy we saw that, the Indian guy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 7: That's think about Mark's club that, you know, with the
comedy at the Carlton, which I'll be there this weekend
comic to Carlson, one of the good things about his
club is see your comedy club theoretity is supposed to
be like your favorite steakhouse. It's like you don't know
who's making a steak, but when you go, you know
the state's going to be good. And so that's why
I think it's like with the comedy Doom, that's what
Mark does. He brings in good acts, so that's going
to actually expand that horizon.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: Other than that because now you've got to see people
lie because everybody has a special now, so it's like,
you know, special is not special, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I agree with that. Yeah, that's interesting or I
hadn't really thought about comedy that way, but it is,
you're right. I mean, we're sort of oversaturated with stuff.
Yeah yeah, and we're seeing it so much it pops
up on all your social or Facebook.
Speaker 4: You get a quickens ptell is what I'm thinking of, okay,
and you get a ten second bit of him doing
some CrowdWork or something, and then yeah, you move on, right,
And that's the thing.
Speaker 8: You're right.
Speaker 7: And the thing about that now is like, you know,
this is why a lot of people don't want anyone
filming them, because it's like, well, listen, you're gonna film it,
and you're you're gonna you know, you're gonna put it
up there, and it's not basically what I want up
there or something like that, and it's not the interpretation
of it like someone I catch someone filming me, I go, well,
let me see the footage and then I can have
my people edited the way it's gonna make me look
good instead of something that's out of context. Right, you know,
but but that's a whole other problem now. And the
crowds are getting a little funkier now too. It's like
they're getting a little bit more trickier and it's turning
out to be a lot more and it is man
nowadays that.
Speaker 2: Are that are meaning misbehaving in the clubs.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, it's amazing, Yeah, yeah, amazing. I see it
really wants to throw a woman out, you know, they
don't and so they have a little bit more latitude.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Well that's when we went.
Speaker 4: We went and saw Cam Patterson has been a regular
on Kill Tony, and he had three different camera guys
walking around.
Speaker 3: Shooting reactions and shooting his shot. I'm like, what is
this a freaking television production here?
Speaker 2: You got three camera guys. It's all about attention, though,
It's all about attention. And if you can get the attention,
you can get the eyes, you can do that sort
of thing. But if you're not able to do that, boy,
it's a I I never thought of it because Earl.
I have to tell you, go see Earl because his
you talk about crowd work, and that's become like now
the thing that we see everybody doing. Earl does crowd work.
I don't.
Speaker 4: I didn't know you had a memory like that, Like
that Saturday Saturday Late show the last time he was
in town and the entire set was crowdworking. It was
fucking hysterical.
Speaker 8: Well, and that's the funny thing.
Speaker 7: Now it's like all of a sudden, now people are
like comedy goes in waves. You know, there's still people
that don't respect the crowd work sort of thing. And
the reason why I actually got into it is because
long before I'm Matt Rye or someone else like that
and everything is because back in the day, you would
do these comedy clubs and they.
Speaker 8: Would go Wednesday through Sunday.
Speaker 7: You know, it wasn't just a three day thing, and
it was like a Funny Bone in Saint Louis, and
they'd have a show Wednesday, which was the open mic night,
and then you had to go on after that to
do ten minutes to show the people that what they
would beginning they game on the weekend. She had one
show Wednesday, one Thursday, two Friday, three Saturdays. Wow, going
on a day And I did it one week of
that and I went, I can't. It's easier for me
to work what's in front of me than to try
to remember what I've said before.
Speaker 8: And I'll tell you what. You get to a midnight
show on a Saturday after two other shows, Yeah, and
you can't remember anything. You can't remember anything us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many shows are you doing now days?
Speaker 8: I only do two comedy clubs.
Speaker 7: I do want in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the night before Thanksgiving
in Harrisburg, and then.
Speaker 8: Pretty much comedy to Carlson.
Speaker 7: I do like a lot of small theaters and everything
I found out, which is really interesting, is when they
started teaching me as a as performance art and not comedy.
Speaker 8: For some reason, that seems to work better.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because like I and all of a sudden, I
just start like being myself. So there's a little bit
of truth in there, a little bit of motivating in there,
a couple of really cool things that I found out
about myself.
Speaker 8: And I share that with it. So it's kind of
turned to this whole thing. So once I change it
from just being this regular stand up thing.
Speaker 7: I mean, you come to a show and it's me,
and if you don't know me, you see me walk
out in the stage and I got this big stag
set that looks like a construction site and everything.
Speaker 8: You know, people are like, Okay, this guy must be something.
Speaker 7: But once I tweak from the hey, you know, joke, joke, joke, joke,
jo jo joke, because first of.
Speaker 8: All, I don't have that kind of skill to be
able to do that. But it seemed to work out
better for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's great. Yeah, you do do a lot
of theaters. Theater shows are that's fun, that's where you
want to be.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I think what it is is like for me.
I have a sweet spot for me. I like I
do a five hundred seat thing. You know, if I
can do that, I can I can depend on that.
You see, like these guys like like the brick Kreisers
and the guys doing these freaking arenas, and it's like it's.
Speaker 8: It's a great money grab.
Speaker 7: But why would I pay seventy five dollars at least
for a ticket to sit way up there just to
wait the forward to see him walk out live?
Speaker 2: Well, basically, let me ask you, as is that us
coming through?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you prefer a more intimate setting? And
even the theaters themselves can be somewhat intimate. They can
be Yeah, because I always like comedy to what you're saying, Like,
then all of a sudden you get a local reference here,
but more of an arena Blue Cross Arena, which has
ten thousand that you can hold in there, And that
just just doesn't seem to I don't know, I think
you lose a little bit. I like comedy in a small,
tight room or in a nice theater.
Speaker 4: I like sitting there knowing that you could see me
and you could start picking on me, you could crowd work, yes,
whereas I at the Blue Cross and I'm in the
two hundred section, you ain't gonna see me, no, no,
And then they got the big screens.
Speaker 7: And here's the thing too, if you stand on stage,
because I did it one time, and you stand on stage,
and the weirdest thing is it's like you can look
back and you can see up the stairs. You can
see out into the hallways and people walking around, just
like they would have a.
Speaker 8: Hockey game or something. You know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I heard this one.
Speaker 7: Yeah at the point now where if you go to
a club or an intimate theater, people go, boy, that
was really great.
Speaker 8: Now, people go, how was the show? They leave it
there they go.
Speaker 7: It was okay, you know, I mean, because it's not
the it's not really the intimacy of it. You're just
wait for that guy to walk out on stage, you know.
I can't wait that anticipation, and then once you see him,
it's like, okay, you know, but it's not the same thing.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 3: Have you done cruises or anything like that.
Speaker 7: I did cruises a long time ago, but I was like,
it's it's first of all, that's a lot of work too,
because they pay you a certain price and most of
the time you're doing two shows a night, seven day cruise,
you're doing two shows each night.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: So you do it like an early show, which is
like like like a what they call family friendly, and
then they would do something a late night show, which
is not you know, which is all bets are off.
But you know, I mean, it's it's uh, it's it's
a lot. It's a lot of work. Most people want
to do that work. A lot of comedians get in there.
I'm at the point now where where you know, I
try to create my own thing, create my own shows.
Speaker 8: Sometimes people get caught up in titles.
Speaker 7: You know, they're like, well, I said, are you're trying
to make a living at this or if you're trying
to be a star, that might be the difference. It's like,
you know, someone goell, I want to play you know,
chuckle fucks or something. I'm playing chuckle fucks. Well, where
are you playing? I'm playing I don't know. I'm doing
an event for such a such a firehouse there, And
people go, oh, the title sounds well, but you know
you can make about five grand at the firehouse in
one night.
Speaker 8: That's what I can do one night. Not the brag.
I'm just trying to make it. No, it's not the title.
It's it's it's you know, you get a chance to perform.
Those people are good too.
Speaker 7: Most of the comedy clubs aren't going to pay you
great money anymore because they've got a blood of people
to go from. It used to be back in the
day that they would bring in the headliner of the
feature and the opener. Well, my most clubs use an
opener from the locally and throw him like fifty bucks.
Speaker 8: Yeah you know, yeah, and he's just happy to be
there because he's there on a weekend.
Speaker 3: Right, Bill doesn't do well with firefighters.
Speaker 2: So, Earl, when did you know you were funny?
Speaker 7: I don't think I ever really knew. I just think
I know it was just really weird. It just kind
of happened. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, I started,
you know, it was you know, I had jokes and
stuff that I was doing, and like, my family doesn't
think I'm funny at all.
Speaker 8: They don't think I'm funny at all.
Speaker 7: And like when I come to see me at it,
they come see me at a show, it's just like,
well we're watching, you know, Earl up there. Like I
go to Connecticut where I'm from and to play the
BSU Theater there, and everyone pass in there because I
grew up there. And it's a whole different field because
now you're performing for people that have known you since
you were younger, right, so it's not even a regular
audience that you know, you have some intimate connection with them.
Speaker 8: But I never really knew.
Speaker 7: I just started doing it and it started catching on
and and and you know, once I started being myself,
I think I'm more of an entertainer. There are tons
and tons of people that can that can write better
than me. I just get the job done.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 7: It's like, that's what it is. People go, that guy's
a hack, this guy's good, that's good guy. It really look,
as long as people are putting you somewhere and want
you to perform, then you're good enough to be there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's how I look at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you uh, do you miss radio at all?
Are you doing any radio? Well?
Speaker 8: When I left Rochester for the second time, you know,
it's so funny. I always come in and tell you that.
Speaker 7: They just go, well, we're going to go into a
different direction, and I always go, well, maybe you know
which way you're going. Maybe I want to go in
that direction, you know. Yeah, And it's like, but when
I left, it was the weirdest things. It's like, radio
is kind of like being an NFL head coach.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 7: They want to ride you out on a rail in
one town and then they hire you somewhere else and
they have the press conferences.
Speaker 8: This is the best thing for our organization, you know.
So it's kind of like that.
Speaker 7: But I've had a couple of offer since I left Rochester.
But I think I'm kind of burnt out on it.
I think the peacefulness I get with what I'm doing
now is the fact for that I don't have to
worry about someone happening coming in and tapping me on
the shoulder on a Friday afternoon, you know, and telling
me that's pretty much it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: I think there was something to be said for the
independent Path, you know what I mean. I'm surprised you
don't do a podcast because you had a lot of
great stories and you have you know a lot of people,
and you know, you keep them brief, you keep you
could do a half hour. I just think that I
know you've got stories. I know you spend time in
la I'm sure there's stories that people don't really know
or or have never heard. And I bet it would
be rich, dude, I bet it would be rich.
Speaker 7: Well, now, it's like that's what I'm kind of sharing
now or someone myself. It's my bestly thinking, like like
my secret and my unsuccess sort of a thing. And
I discussed, you know a lot of the failures and
stuff that come with this business and failures that I
do and that I have, and how many times I
wanted to quit, you know, and and and you do
you discuss that kind of thing. But it's like as
far as podcast is concerned, there's a lot of them
out there, and some are really good. I don't know
if I'm supposed to mention any other podcast while I'm
on here.
Speaker 2: You can, you can? I don't care, you know, uh
you know.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 8: Carl from W A T P.
Speaker 2: I don't know these podcasts, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay that and you know, and I've done his
a couple of times if you'ms and stuff. And it
works because there are a lot of people that will
come out and they'll say they saw.
Speaker 8: Me on this or they say they saw me on that.
Speaker 7: Gat Yeah, it's it's it's funny because it's like, I
don't know if I could sustain that, and radio is
good enough for I can get the hate, you know,
I mean, that was enough.
Speaker 8: I don't know if I'm ready. I'm too old for
the hate.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 8: Once you get over half a hundred, okay.
Speaker 2: I'm over half a hundred, I'll take the hate. I'll
take all of that.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what I don't. I don't even look
when I back up anymore. That's how bad it is.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, but for oo you know, so you know,
but yeah, I don't know, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7: But the only thing that really bought I missed about
radio is once I left, there were some topics that
were really really that got really good that I wish
I could have discussed, you.
Speaker 8: Know, but that was the thing.
Speaker 7: But the second time, they brought me in for the
second time in Rochester for entertainment, and then you had
all this political stuff and you had, uh, what was
the guy that got killed by the cops and everything,
So everything became you know, white people calling up going
to her, why can't we do this or why can't
we say that? People would have a totally yeah, they
would have a total mis interpretation. Like I would go,
I said, well, you know, I was talking to you know,
you know, my world, you know whatever, and people, but
what do you mean your world? You weren't growing up
in the in the in the in the hood or
anything else like that. And I go, well, my world
doesn't necessarily mean the hood, you smart white son of
a bench.
Speaker 8: It means my life in my world. My world is
my world.
Speaker 7: It's not the world you think it is. So it
got to be a little annoying after a while. And
then it was like, you know what I'm not even
here to be entertaining anymore. Now I'm just fielding questions
of people who feel like they're oppressed.
Speaker 2: What's it like to be black?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what it is now I'm trying. It's whole
lot of fun. Actually it's a lot more.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: I had to sit here. I tell jokes, you know,
like reparation checks. I mean, it gets you know, a
worse idea.
Speaker 7: Quite frankly, I don't know if this is going to
get me in trouble, but hey, no black people come
see me anyway.
Speaker 8: So how about this is the thing.
Speaker 7: It's like, they say, well, reparation and I'm going, well,
how do you decide who gets what?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: Okay, how do you decide who gets what?
Speaker 7: And listening as a culture, our spending habits aren't the best.
Speaker 8: So it's like, it's true, did.
Speaker 2: Well the thing?
Speaker 7: Pep were like, well, you know, get this and get
this and everything, and I guess you know what it is.
I'll tell you this is for true. When I was
growing up, my mother sat me down as a little kid.
She says, you know what, there's gonna be some people
in this world that are gonna not like you because
you're black, but you still have but you still have
to like people for their character.
Speaker 8: And I grabbed on that and I just ran with
it and I got to hell with that to this day.
So it's really weird.
Speaker 7: So when I sit there and I watch TV sometimes
and I look around my house and I go, boy,
if I'm a victim, I'm sure doing it wrong, you know. So,
I mean, it's it's just one of these things where
where that's what I like about comedy because it's the
last thing that's trying to pull us together. And I'm
almost thinking, you really can't offend anybody comedically anymore. You know,
you get people like getting a little crispy over it.
Speaker 8: But you know, yeah, I think we're past that part
of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're past that part of it too.
At least I would hope it's interesting because I see
a lot of comics today as almost modern day philosophers
pointing out the absurdity of things. And the way you're
doing your show now, I mean, I would love to
see this because I liked the way you even tied
in and you did you talked about your dad and
things in your previous shows. I don't know about the
failures and things. But I love hearing you like sort
of examine that a little bit, because I think failure
is such an important piece. But we all hate it because.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we hate it. But sometimes you know, it's like,
is there really a failure?
Speaker 7: It's like it's a perfect example. So the other day
here at the house, Uh, my alarm goes off in
the middle of the night. Okay, my my security alarm.
So I think I think someone's breaking into the house.
So I get up and I don't have a bat
because I'm not cool enough to have a gun. I
know there's a lot of gun I'm not against guns, yeah,
I just I just know I'm not responsible. And I
mean I dropped my phone three times a day, you know,
and it's uh, and I don't have to wory about
shooting off my penis when it hits the ground, so
I don't worry about that.
Speaker 8: But so I turned out to be a water alarm.
Speaker 7: So I went downstairs and my my srumpet stopped and
the basement had semi flooded, and uh, and that was.
Speaker 8: A pain in the neck.
Speaker 7: And then I was like two nights before that, if
not the night before I was sitting there, and I
was down in my family room because I have the
family room, have the theater room, and then I have
like a like a gym there, and I was looking
at the carpet in there, and I was like, man,
you know what, I said, Oh God, help me just
make some extra money. If there's such a thing. That
changed his rugout okay, And he did it.
Speaker 8: He fltted me. He said he wasn't gonna do it
by flood again.
Speaker 2: But he lies.
Speaker 8: So out of all of that stuff, I get new
garment out of it.
Speaker 7: And it's like, sometimes I just look at life and
I just try to figure out, you know, sometimes things
happen for a reason. The guy that came out there
to clean up it was he they sent him out.
He did a fantastic job. It was his first job.
Speaker 8: Okay, really and so and then it was his first job.
Speaker 7: And then the person who came out to do the
base boards, he was his first job with his son,
because his son started to want to work with him
and everything. So I said, well, sometimes I'm just in
the way of a higher being trying to help other people.
Speaker 8: Something I get used as that person, you know. Yeah,
And then I thought about that.
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, I get Look, he could have just hit me
up with an instant scratch ticket too.
Speaker 2: But let me are you would you consider yourself a
religious guy.
Speaker 8: I think I'm spiritual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I would say spiritual, That's what I
would say. And I and I do believe in what
you're saying. I don't know if I would use the
same god as source or whatever, but I often think
that things happen for a reason, and and it's all
our fault. It's just what frequency are you vibrating on
that's bringing or keeping something away? And I don't know.
I always found you really interesting in all. I wish
I had to talk to you more. It was just
our schedules were a little off because you were doing
afternoon and I was trying to get out of it.
Speaker 7: Mighty to be my last time coming through there, what
of Rochester, as far as as far as the club
is concerned, for a while anyway, because I want to
work on some other things, and and and like I
I got my training going on, and and I actually
went to somebody who sat down and uh and and
was able to a friend of mine in LA and
just said, listen, just assess who I am as a performer.
I know you'd like me as a person, but doesn't
me assess who I am as a performer. So what
he basically did tell you where I could be a
little bit stronger at some things that I wasn't taking
advantage at h and you know, particularly my age and
the shape that I'm in and stuff, and you know
that might be you know it I mean, and he says, listen,
he goes, I'm not saying you got to get up
there and take your shirt off on stage, but brick
Price will takes the shirt off and these are the
worst shape ever.
Speaker 8: And that just seems to be a thing. And that's fine.
Speaker 7: But so he just went over this whole different thing
with me to find out how I can be a
better person going into whatever I have left as far
as this business is concerned. You know I would have
done I should have done that a little bit sooner.
But coming to the crossing this weekend, man, it's always
gonna be a whole lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Slayton's retiring.
Speaker 2: Wait, you're not retiring, though, are you.
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: No, No, I'm not retiring. I'm just gonna situate on
a couple of more things. You know, it's so funny too,
as I see that club in and Mark's got a
lot of time on coming in there, you know, and uh,
you know, and I look at it and I go, well,
there's a lot of talent coming in there. I know
there's people he wants to get in there. I'm not
saying he's doing me a solid because I earned my
spot to perform there. I didn't DEI my way in there,
my perform there, and so but it's like, okay, well,
you know, maybe it opens it up for a couple
of other people, and then I get to go and
perform and work on some other things that I'm working
on performance wise too, I actually have a better angle
of getting to another level juxtapositioning this at this point. So,
but that's still my favorite place to play, is the
I mean, it's the best thing. Mark has worked his
ass off for that club, and and and and and
so rests to add they both did.
Speaker 8: They worked their asses off.
Speaker 7: Remember that place was over there in Webster, you know,
next to the Mechanical Bull, for God's sake, you know.
And so he's actually worked it out and it's a
better place now.
Speaker 2: Yeah the uh you almost said a little melancholy.
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I don't like the tone here.
Speaker 8: No, I'm good.
Speaker 7: It's like you know, it's it's it's it's one of
these things where I'm going, Okay, I'm excited about what
I'm getting ready to do. But sometimes you have to
sit there and you go, okay, you got and not
cut the fat, but you just have to streamline some
of the things that you're you're thinking. The good thing
about what I like about Mark is anytime I call, Mark.
Speaker 8: Picks up the phone.
Speaker 7: You know, he picks up the phone and he'll chat
with me and he'll say, hey, man, this is what
I need to do, or you know, he'll put me
in sometimes and I know he gets I got a
movie to hear, a movie to hear or whatever, or
or or or stuff like that, and you know, and
I get it, and I mean, I just I understand him.
And it's just a great it's a great club. And
like you said, they bring a lot of lot of
big names.
Speaker 2: In there, yeah they do, but you are certainly one.
I think that that is worth checking out and seeing
and I'm excited for you if you're working on new stuff.
I think that's smart. Everybody should have sort of a coach, right,
because we get too close to it, so I have
some fresh eyes or fresh ears on whatever you're doing
is interesting. And sometimes because we're so close to it,
it's almost like, oh, you know, your baby, it's like
your arm. Somebody's saying something that it hurts and you
almost have to give yourself a day to swallow it
and go, Okay, I get it. I get it for
what it is and not. You know, there's the business
side and the emotional side of things. And I think
that a lot of times when you're a performer of
any kind, the emotions are what you feel first, not
in the message.
Speaker 8: You're right.
Speaker 7: But it's the funny thing too, It is like you
do get really close to all of this stuff and
it becomes a part of you, of who you are.
But I got to tell you, when I started out
and the TV and all this other stuff in the beginning,
I wouldn't want to start out at a better That
was the best time to start out. Now, it's like
there's so many people. I mean, Rochester has the funniest
person in Rochester contest. It's like three or four weekends
there's like one hundred people coming out, you know, and
The funny thing about being a comedian is there's there's
no one to tell you you can't do it, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and so well again that we've told them a
few times you can't do it, they got one of
the yeah, yeah, you can.
Speaker 8: Be tell that. But the thing is too is you
don't have to listen. That's the thing. It's like people
aren't listening. They go, oh, they don't know, you know,
I'm new.
Speaker 7: And then you know what, this business is so funky
that person you tell they ain't got it will probably
have it down the road somewhere, you know. So you
can't really, you can't really uh write about that. I mean,
the business doesn't need anybody, but it chooses who would like,
you know.
Speaker 4: But just remember earlier getting older, it's take your shirt off,
not drop your pants.
Speaker 8: Listen. I'll tell you what. When I take my shirt off,
I'm gonna leave a memory. I'm gonna be. I'm absolutely
i'm gonna be. I'm gonna be burnt, fraisier. That's what
I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2: Burnt, burnt. Oh that's so funny. Well, earl, I think
this is uh interesting. I want to hear all the highs,
the low oh the Journey, the ride. That's right. You
did star Search, didn't you?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I did. I get did star Search ears? I
mean the first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Did a lot of stuff. You know.
Speaker 7: What's so funny because I was like one of the
first things I ever did. I actually did a show
that I don't even know if it was it was
so short lived. You remember Alan Thick.
Speaker 2: Yes, he had a show fall Sick of Night, Thick
of the Night.
Speaker 8: You were on that, Yeah, that was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a long time ago. And Rip Dees
had a show, a late night show too, and that
didn't last too long. But nowadays you look at the
late night shows, it's not even really a place for
comedians now. They're all fighting for that who's got that
movie or who's politely whatever?
Speaker 8: You know, now it's not you know it. You're not
doing too many sets on late night TV anymore.
Speaker 2: No, you're not. And late night is uh you know,
I know one of the guys one of the late
night shows, and I'm all a lot of it is
how many hits you're getting to online because they're not
pulling the viewers at the slotted time like they used
to ratings are are down, but they can justify revenue
and stuff that these guys are twenty million other people
are are making because they're getting hits online and their
their skits are going viral and they're here or there,
and so that that kind of makes it it big.
Speaker 7: But I mean, then go on all kinds of stuff too,
like like Fox and Friends has once, Fox and Friends
used to do it, and then CNN does it now
and everything. There's a comedian I think she's been up
there once. Her name is Tammy Pascatelli. Yeah, very funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She asked me if I was gay ones because
I was in Montreal at the Comedy Fest. I was
up there doing radio stuff and at the time I
was doing some TV not not anything like you had done.
I'm talking TV commercials locally hero right, and somebody said
something about my eyebrows, so I went and had my
eyebrows wax. Well, once you get your eyebrows wax, you
gotta pretty much stick with Now. I haven't had that
done in a long time. But so Tammy came up
to me and she's she's sitting there and we're talking
and stuff, and then she goes, I have to ask
are you gay? And I went what. I was like
what she said, Well, your eyebrows are perfect, and I
was like, no, I'm not gay. This was that was
like I honestly Earl, that was probably twenty years ago.
It might have been five o six when that happened.
Speaker 8: So well, it's funny because I get manicures, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and someone asked me if I was gay because
I got a manicure, and I was like, no, I
mean my nails grinding it.
Speaker 8: I'm like, look, I'm fight out. I look like Wolverine.
I gotta get him done, you know so.
Speaker 7: But Tammy Pescutelli, she's amazing. She said something the other
day in her feed that I thought was really good.
She had went on Fox and Friends, okay, and she
and she got a lot of crap for going on
Fox and Friends because people are at the point now
where you know you're going on to get in front
of a bunch of people, you don't care where you
do it.
Speaker 2: I did a.
Speaker 7: For the state of Pennsylvania. It was Republican Party. I
did that and I did the Democratic Party too, damn Yeah.
And I was there and I was and it was killer.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 3: Those crowds.
Speaker 2: It's all Fox and Friends. Oh god, Jamis crou I.
Speaker 7: Did that and then I did the Democrats, so I
did them both. But she had did Fox and Friends
and some people were giving her crap, and she posted
something really good on her post, and I'm like to
do it justice and that, and I wish it's one
of these things that somebody says that was so profound.
Speaker 8: I wish I had said it.
Speaker 7: She says, if I if I if I go on
TV with the Republicans, I lose my friends. If I
go on TV and perform with the Democrats, I lose
my friends. If I stay don't perform at all, I
lose my house.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I was like, boy, that makes all the
sense in the world.
Speaker 7: People don't understand that, you know sometimes about getting your
stuff out there and getting your material out there.
Speaker 2: You know it, you know it. I'm I'm looking at
a I'm looking at a picture from twenty fourteen right here.
I don't know if you can see him.
Speaker 8: Oh god, that was the Building Ball All Stars of
Country Comedy.
Speaker 2: Dude, what's that guy?
Speaker 8: Kill me about that? That's the radio guy that we
had on over there? What was his name?
Speaker 2: That show that they had Bobby Bone. Was it Bobby Bones?
Speaker 8: No, not Bobby Bones. A guy that came on after
us over there.
Speaker 3: At Oh we're over there, that newman.
Speaker 7: No, uh, it's a syndicated show out of Cleveland or something.
Oh Rover, Yeah, oh man, he went over me with
that and everything like that.
Speaker 8: He was good for that.
Speaker 2: Met you look you but I look twenty two. Yeah,
but if you told me that you just got drafted
as a cornerback for the Buffalo Bills, I would believe it.
Like you look, you look that good, earl. Yeah, and
you still look that good. You don't look like you've
aged black dot crack.
Speaker 8: I'm completely gray on the inside. I look like I
look like a each going bad.
Speaker 7: But I'll tell you you know, Oh, let me tell
you this too. So when I watched the NFL this year, Yeah,
I came to the conclusion that of some people who
I thought were absolutely amazing, okay, and I had my
top five.
Speaker 8: And my number second person was sa Kuon Barkley because
he he he.
Speaker 7: For seven years, for seven years, he got his ass
kicked and if he walked away from the game after that,
it's been nothing. And the Giants, I don't know who
decided to let him go and definitely go to the Eagles.
That guy's definitely not in that organization anymore.
Speaker 8: It could be the worst move ever, you know.
Speaker 7: So the guy not only does well in a new team,
he's runs for two thousand yards, he wins the super Bowl.
He jumps over so many backwards. Yeah, I know, you know,
and then he goes to the White House and everyone
hates him. So they it's like, we don't even know anymore.
But Saquon Barkley was my number two and my number
one person that I like after this NFL season, which
I I didn't think would be possible.
Speaker 8: Josh Allen, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 7: I was impressed because now only of course he plays
really well and and uh and then I just started googling.
I went down this rabbit hole of some of this
stuff he does with the community and and and and
and some of these things that he does.
Speaker 8: I know there's a lot of other NFL players that
do it, but for some reason, you know, uh, when
they gave him cleats, when everyone's signature on.
Speaker 7: It, you know, and he kind of or they they
put the big bank you thing out and he kind
of lost and I thought that was pretty cool, so uh,
not enough to wear Buffalo gill because God forbid, people go,
oh you poser.
Speaker 8: That's the other thing I don't understand either. You know,
when you hate their team, you're tell him I hate
their team, they get mad at you. Then you wear
their stuff and go, oh we're back and knowing me
whatever whatever. You know, It's like you can't win.
Speaker 7: It's like the guy that writes the motorcycle. He's like, yeah, dude,
you don't know what freedom minister. You get a bike
and then you get a bike and they all call
your poser.
Speaker 4: So that out that picture is the same mouth that
josh o our eighth grade to school. There, Earl go
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Speaker 2: Uh, what are you there? Friday and Saturday?
Speaker 8: Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be a wrinkles room Friday and Saturday Ripples room.
H And I think Billy Vinny Paulino is going to
be there with me.
Speaker 8: I do believe that too.
Speaker 2: Oh good, that's a great show you had me till Vinnie.
That's a great show you and Vinnie. That'll be fun.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I haven't seen him for a while. I
think we crossed a little while on the podcast. But
other than that, it was pretty good. Yeah, this is
great man, your shows. It's so funny. How you you know,
when you you got out of radio or whatever, how
you want to phrase it, you you went to this
and you and you and you put your head down
to it and it just, uh, it's good. You know,
it's just it's really good. You just can't be you know,
you can't be denied.
Speaker 8: You know. Do you talk to your your former partner
there at all? Any? No? None at all? Isn't that funny?
Speaker 7: I haven't talked to the people I did radio written
in Harrisburg after fifteen years.
Speaker 8: I haven't talked to them for five years.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's kind of sad. And I and I, uh,
I thought I made overtures to to talk, and I
don't know. I think there's an air of uncomfortableness. I
would be one of those people earl that with most people. Uh,
I'll just pick up where we left off. Nothing is
anybody's fault, nothing is anybody's thing. It's just the way
it's life. I see how how it goes. Believe me.
I mean, I I've got a ship storm outside outside
of here that's brewing with you know, the kid and
stuff like that. So I get it, but it's it's
sad because you had a close relationships that you would
hope would go beyond just that, right, and you spend
a lot.
Speaker 7: Of time after what you're feeling. Yeah, I know, it's
a weird it's a weird thing. It's like, geez, I
can just pick up the phone, right, you know, But
it's just a it's a weird sort of thing. So
every once in a while he'll see something that reminded
us something we did on the show or something, and
he'll send it to me or something like that.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 8: It's kind of like you bring up with somebody but
you don't know exactly how to.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always figure if they're if I'm if I'm feeling
that they're feeling that. So I try to push my
awkwardness away and just just pretend like I just saw
you yesterday or I just saw you a couple of
days ago, and move on that way.
Speaker 3: To me, he's got shiny new heartless solace assholes that
he hangs out.
Speaker 2: With now, Yeah, I think so that's absolutely true. But
I also think too. I mean, you'll you'll appreciate this.
You start to see that the meaning of life is
what you give it. There is no meaning to it
other than the meaning you apply to it. So if
you want to apply that everybody's being an asshole to
you or a fuck them or whatever, then you're gonna
get a whole lot of that back. Or you can
kind of go the other way. And I always think
you're a guy who goes the other way. Uh, oh, well,
he's not that way, Jesus Kevin, That's not what I meant.
Speaker 8: He knew pronouns, my pronouns.
Speaker 2: I don't. But and so I I I would always
just err on that side. I'm not going to say
that that Sometimes there you're gonna feel bitterness. Yeah you are,
you are, You're human. Uh but you got to realize
what that is and go that's not me and just
move on. And yeah, I uh, I don't know how
to do anything else, earl. I've been talking to a
microphone since I was nineteen. I'm fifty three years old.
I got to do. I got to do what I
know how to do. And I like the idea of
the independence. It's not as easy, but it's certainly not.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: There's been some bumps and and and things along the way,
but it's I I love it.
Speaker 3: Tell him what else you're doing.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna I love this.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: No, I not know that that Jim that Jim clothes. No, So, Earl.
When my son came to live with me, you know,
you're keeping the podcast floating stuff. And all of a sudden,
now I got a kid who's six one, two hundred
pounds eating me out of house and home. I got,
you know, he's fifteen years old. I went and I go,
I got to do something during the day, and I'll
do the podcast in the evenings. So I started substitute teaching.
Oh god, wait, Earl. Okay, so Earl. So I was
doing like high school and stuff like that, and I
did sixth grade for a couple of weeks. Then I
switched up and a friend of mine said, Hey, I'm
the head of security at these schools. They pay a
little more for their subs. You should apply. So I apply.
I am now a building sub for kindergarten through second grade. Earl.
Today it started to rain. I take the second graders
out on the playground Some are on the playground with
the wood chips. Some are playing ball. I call everybody
to come in. Not all of them come in. I
don't realize that. I get inside. Kids are over at
the window screaming, Hey, so and so still outside. So
I go out to get them. They're car They're opening
the window and carrying the kids through the window. So
now I got chaos. I mean it was I was
the worst sub you could have today. So then some
kid goes to the main office to get a snack
and he goes, hey, I saw the principal and she said,
you need to talk to the students who came in
through the window. And that's what great is a second?
Speaker 7: Yeah, see, that's those are the former did beers. That's
when you're they're just learning how to hold a handgun.
Speaker 2: And earl the school. Maybe it might be right.
Speaker 8: I don't know, man, I'll tell you what. That that's
a that's a job. That Man, what are you gonna
do if someone gets up in your face?
Speaker 2: That's gotta be well, they're little kids. They're little kids
in the high school kids.
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 2: I was cool with those guys. They were all good
with me. No, they were they were good jokes. But
that but the uh, the little kids are a little
more of a handful, to be honest with you. Yeah, yeah,
they're the ones.
Speaker 7: You gotta round them in like baby chicks. And he
can't be losing and you can't lose it in the flock.
Speaker 2: Nope, can't lose any of the flock. And I almost
did today. Then I'm talking to my father, who was
a sixth grade teacher. Goes, Yeah, one time they did
a field trip from Poughkeepsie. He taught in Poughkeepsie and
went down to New York City and they left one
kid behind his parents. I well, not that bad. No,
I haven't seen we'll refrain from that.
Speaker 8: Oh oh my god. Wait, so wait a minute. Your
father was a teacher.
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, my dad had a doctor in philosophy and
he taught sixth grade English.
Speaker 8: No, it's so funny because this is what I wanted
to ask you, and it's been killing me for a
couple of years. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7: I don't know why I did it, and I probably
googled you at some point. But there's a Bill Moran there,
that's this big nameel general.
Speaker 8: Yeah, related to that guy.
Speaker 2: No, I am not.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I thought I thought it was like
your father. This guy's got he's got all this kind
of metals and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, no, no, no no no, my dad,
my dad no never inything earth. My dad was not
even in Vietnam because he got a high draft number. Uh.
He was in college, but he wouldn't take the college
to firm it because his brother was in. But his
brother was a pilot, a Navy pilot in and then
went on to be a pilot for eventually Delta Airlines
for many years.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cool, that was cool. Earl.
Speaker 7: Is that son you You gotta get that son a
job man. You gotta get him out there and get working.
Speaker 2: Buddy. I just got a message today from a friend
who said, Hey, I'm getting like thirty bags of malts
and I don't feel like spreading it. I know you
got a kid, and I go, sounds good to me, Yeah,
sounds good. Yeah, Earl, It's been a pleasure. I would
love to catch up with you again sometime.
Speaker 8: Listen.
Speaker 7: What's gonna happen is what I'll do is I'm gonna
come through there because I still have the things I
have to do, and I'll come through that way and
then I'll give you enough notice and then we can
all go.
Speaker 8: To lunch or something like that.
Speaker 2: I would love that, just be able to kind of.
Speaker 7: Shoot the ship because I haven't seen you since that
night you did there that show.
Speaker 2: Him for Christian Yeah over enough iron Yeah years ago.
Yeah it was years ago. Yeah, I would love that, Earl.
But go check out Earl Rickles Room Friday and Saturday
night he and Vinnie Paulino. That sounds like a great show.
And I hope you will try to get out there. Yeah,
I'm gonna. I gotta see what my kids doing, but
I may too. Yeah, due, I get it.
Speaker 8: I get it now. I've done this long enough.
Speaker 7: When I talked to radio people in interview, it's always
like we'll be there, and it's like, okay, whatever, but
I know.
Speaker 2: Kevin will be there. Kevin will definitely be there.
Speaker 8: I am if you've supported me, you've supported me enough,
I understand.
Speaker 2: Stop it, drink, no you go.
Speaker 8: I want you there too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, all right, well we'll see you that, Earl.
Thank you very much for all your time.
Speaker 7: All right, if you come through this way or anything too,
let me know. Okay, you got it, and then I'll
keep you posting what I'm coming do there?
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Earl?
Speaker 8: All right man, I love you guys.
Speaker 2: There he goes Earl David reed Man, who, well, take
a break. I want to do one more because it
was an interesting There were a couple things he brought
up that I thought we should maybe elaborate a little
bit on. We'll get to all that right after this.
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Speaker 3: Told you I'm a dick. I learned from the best.
The dick doesn't fire fall from the dick tree.
Speaker 2: I know what this is a reference to. And it's
not me.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: I think that. Well, I'm going to talk in code,
but I want people to think. Sometimes something had there
had to be more to something for something else to happen,
Like you get all these uh flowers.
Speaker 3: Sometimes the snuboddy funcks your world up.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I always liked Dryl. I think Earl
got a I think he's great on stage. I really is.
Speaker 4: If you have not seen entertainer and the time you've
lived in this town, you gotta go Cyril.
Speaker 2: He's a great entertainer and I and he was always
very nice to me and uh, I just I think
what I was gonna say to him and I I
didn't is it's hard when you are replacing, like he
was brought in to replace kimber Leghan Becking foul Well.
I I feel like that they were stup fount. The
thing is, like people used to always go, you want
to be the guy after the guy. You don't want
to be the guy after the guy. You want to
be guy after the guy after the guy, right right,
You want to be like the next because they're not
going to instantly love whatever comes next. Right.
Speaker 4: But it was the name recognition with Earl, Yeah, but
then they didn't put the right people around Earl.
Speaker 2: Whether they did or didn't, I don't know. Here's what
I would say, though, is I think what happens a
lot of times in any company, and if you run
a company, the purpose is to make money, and so
what will happen is they'll be like knee jerk reaction, Hey,
this isn't the way they did it or what brought success,
and you start getting too many hands in the pot
and too many people trying to direct you to the
point where when you're the talent, you can no longer think.
And now you start trying to go, well, let me
do something that's going to get them off my back,
or let me do something that's gonna make them happy. Well,
that's not necessarily what the audience wants. And so that's
why it might not be your stick either. It may
not be your stick. And my thing was always like,
if you got to be authentically you or and some
people love you, some people hate you, but somewhere along
the line, they'll it'll somehow balance out. And I think
that I always felt like when he was here, I know,
I know that there were meetings every single fucking day,
meetings that they had to go to with management every day,
and I go, you can't do that. That would drive
me up. But the thing is, you can't do that
because that's putting a governor on And I taken away
from radio. Any job, if the boss is on your
ass every day, going I don't care if you're putting
spark plugs in a lawnmower and they're going, did you
turn those clockwise? Did every day? Hey, let me see,
you're gonna fucking hate it. I would, or you would
get to the point where you're gonna look to them
to make sure that you're not getting snapped that today.
And maybe that's a bad analogy, but it just becomes
hard to do your job because you feel like there's
no room. Earle never fucking complained, ever. Never, I would
have bitched up a buck, he asked Danny. When we
worked together, I was always bitching, but I would bitch
to them, going, you need to back the fuck off
because this is now. Okay. It worked out for me
in those situations, but I felt bad for him because
you know, you were coming in after people who had
done very, very well.
Speaker 4: It's got to make him happy that I know that
he was replaced by something that just was an absolute abomination,
and it hasn't gotten much better after that abomination.
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, no, no, no, no, I don't mean that.
I mean I was thinking of those two guys, what
was the name, Rizzo and Jeff. They're now I see
them on social media sometimes they're somewhere in North Carolina. Oh,
I thought they were doing well. I don't know. Hey, look,
you guys dream and you want to do it. I try.
I will always say like I'm not gonna knock you. Yeah.
I get how hard this can be or not be.
I get that there's always gonna be somebody who thinks
they're better or funnier.
Speaker 3: So you've put up with my make and wish for
three years now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I not, No, I don't feel like that
at all. But I'll say I remember being in radio
and trying to figure out what can I do that's
gonna get them happy instead of just being me, Because
there were bosses that loved me for me, and then
there were guys who are like, well, you know, you
should do a little more of this, you should do
a little more of that, and so you start questioning
it and you can't because those guys have the shit
runs downhill. They're getting pressure on them, so they're gonna
put pressure on you, and no one can figure out anything.
Speaker 3: The whole lot of those just can't fucking do it,
and that's why they're on the programming.
Speaker 2: Well, it's.
Speaker 3: Think of one.
Speaker 2: In my head, there's a couple and I would just
but in any job, right that middle management is the
worst place to be because the shit runs onto them,
and then if they're not good at controlling their emotions
and stuff, they convey a message like I've seen I
have seen this happen. I have seen a boss and
I was in a meeting room to go in and go,
you gotta you gotta talk to these guys. I don't
know what the fuck they're doing in there, but they
got to be rained in and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blahlah blah blah blah. So the guy goes
down and he starts like kicking it. What are you
guys doing right? And he's yelling and instead of take
what the message you just got, digest it a little
bit and then go, how would I want to hear
this if I were on the radio, And how do
I steer these guys? I'm telling you, most of life
is about being a fucking matador and getting people to
come over here, you know, come over here, Come over here,
come over here. I say that all the time about
my son. I am a matador. I see what's happening
if I come in, Because you're much like my personality,
my kid, I go. If they told me I don't
want you doing X, Y and Z, I'm doing X
Y and Z When every chance you can't find I
will find a way to get X Y Z And
I'll even throw a new ABC in there that you
have no idea about I don't want that, I don't
need that. He doesn't need that. So my thing is,
let's be a matador. I see what's happening. I recognize it.
Not gonna. I'm not standing up and cheering about it,
But hey man, why don't we try this? And that's
how I do it. I think he needs to do
that with it. I'm not gonna say it's gonna be
an easy thing and it's gonna happen all the time.
But middle management needs to learn that strategy because when
you know this, and there are some great middle managers, wonderful,
like truly great people who can protect you from from
some of the onslaught that comes, yeah, you know, and
then there are ones that just they have no fucking clue.
They just get run over.
Speaker 4: My boss, is that exact way? He listens to what's
coming down. Yeah, he listens to what's coming up, and
he finds that middle ground where we're right there.
Speaker 2: Here's what we need.
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna bitch about this and this and
this and this. They're gonna bitch about this, this, this,
this and this. How can we avoid everybody?
Speaker 2: You need somebody who can be a thinker and see
it for one of this, that's all you got to
see it for what of this? And and that's why
I always say nowadays, I think that our knee jerk
reaction is the first one is usually the wrong one
that all of us have in certain situations, whether it
be a kid, a relationship, a job, anything, road rage,
the first reaction is usually gonna be the one that
you go, fuck, I wish I didn't do.
Speaker 3: That, shoot first, amore.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That that sort of thing.
And I think if you, if you can give yourself
that proverbial beat, some kind of I don't know, a
little pocket between knee jerk and and reality, yeah, you'll
do okay, everything will be okay. That's the way I
see it. I don't know, but it's so funny. I
have to tell you Like today too, I think that
I don't always say this without like totally blowing my
cover on a lot of stuff, But there was a
lot of like little flirtations towards me today. I think
I think someone telling me.
Speaker 3: From the situation last Thursday, no.
Speaker 2: Oh, the situation lands Jesus Christ is making me sound
like good. No, No, I went somewhere today. And but
the yeah, I thought there were a lot of things
that were said, uh huh, a lot of things. You
gotta be careful with it. And to the point where
somebody else that works there came over commented about her outfit,
wondered why she was wearing it, and then said, I
looked at the book and I saw who was coming in.
How about that? I was flattered a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's here borrow one of Laura's extra rooms.
Speaker 2: I will never do that ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
But I'm just saying like, there were things, and I
think and sometimes in those situations like I just you know,
I hear about the person says they're a lot of fun.
I'm like, okay, I get it.
Speaker 3: You and Earl could go on one Webster Mom's double.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not on that note. Coblestone We're coming. Well,
I do love Cobblestone on Maine. That is a great place,
Cobblestone on Maine, right there in the heart in the
heart of downtown beautiful web the village of Webster. Really
it really is. And it's it's nice there. And uh,
you go out to the Cobblestone, a main upscale bar
they always have great food.
Speaker 3: My wife doesn't drink that much.
Speaker 4: She will always have a drink or two at Cobblestone
because they'll make something for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just drink.
Speaker 4: This is fantastic. Yeah, I'll go buy the stuff turn
making a home and she's like, this tastes like shit.
Speaker 2: It's great craft cocktails, great craft beers, upscale bar, fun
place to hang out, really really good atmosphere. Dan Bresnahan
and his family have done a fantastic job over there.
The food is really it really is. I mean just
down to the shareables like the nachos that don't get
soggy but then so long, but the pork chops that
they do, and the variety and how they change it up,
it's really really impressive. I don't I have no idea
how to cook any of that stuff, and like that well,
and every time there isn't anything on that menu that
you go, I wish I tried something else.
Speaker 4: We were gonna go a couple weeks ago and she
was finishing at work, so I had a started having
a drink in the garage and that was I'm like,
I can't make it all of my webster now, which
sucked because I was really looking forward to going out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well we'll have to do uh, we
gotta get back to our nights are fun nights. We
said we were gonna do them, and I didn't do them.
It's my fault, nobody, that was your fault. Yes, it is,
it is. It is for Kevin Muir, who will be
at the Earl David Reid Show. I hope what I
think of going if I go up, probably late Saturday, Okay,
Earl David Richio Comedy at the Carlson You can go
to Carlsoncomedy dot com. Earl David Reed. I thought that
he's a lot of fun. I'd like to see this
because Earl he was kind of I was hoping he
would go into some stories about the days on you know,
coming up in comedy and trying out for sitcoms and
doing that sort of thing. And Earl used to be
much heavier, and then he lost all the weight and
got himself an incredible shape. He's been in shape for
nearly thirty years now.
Speaker 3: And he dressing a white guy in that one picture.
Speaker 2: On that note, I'm Bill Moran. Will see you Monday somewhere.
Speaker 8: Sid