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<v Speaker 1>Ask not what your country can do for you and

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do for your country read my lips?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty excuse me? And are people are still talking about discount?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Ricochet Podcast with Charles C. W. You Cook

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<v Speaker 1>and Stephen Hayward. I'm James Lylyax. It's July and we're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to talk amongst arcels. Shallis led zeversos a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody. It's the Ricochet Podcast, number seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight. Hey, why don't you? Yes, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>of the most stimulating conversations in community on the web.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm James Lenox in Minneapolis downtown in a tall, beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>skyscraper for the very last time, and I'm joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Charles C. W. Cook in Florida and Stephen Hayward, who,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, is a parapatetic soul and might be

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<v Speaker 1>ware at the moment. Don't say californ Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at home. I see the ocean. I won't say

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<v Speaker 2>where though, So.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, so once again we span the nation. Gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>what is on your minds? Of the more? There's so much.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the big beautiful bill of course, which people

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<v Speaker 1>are still chewing through. And according to my Twitter feeds

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<v Speaker 1>and the tiktoks that I get, I am under the

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that the debt are going to be heaped like

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<v Speaker 1>cordwood on the street corners because of the cuts that

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<v Speaker 1>are being made in various programs. I could point out

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe I've heard before that every time somebody tries

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<v Speaker 1>to cut something, it's always going to be that people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to die. I think we discussed last week

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<v Speaker 1>or the week before, the incalculable fatality right after net neutrality.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this different? Was this actually a change in

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<v Speaker 1>programs and going forth there might be some difficulty of

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<v Speaker 1>aidable bodied people to get what they had got before.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I think a unifying thread right now,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of issues. Who someone our rundown some

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<v Speaker 2>not is the exhaustion of the Democrats in the left.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you mentioned that neutrality, but we also

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<v Speaker 2>heard the same thing about the twenty seventeen Trump tax cuts,

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<v Speaker 2>that people would die from those tax cuts, right and

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<v Speaker 2>the flash flooding in Texas. They want to blame it

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<v Speaker 2>on Doge, but there was also they're trying to run

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<v Speaker 2>the Katrina playbook. Right, you remember Katrina twenty years ago now,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know Bush made some mistakes. They didn't present

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<v Speaker 2>themselves very well, but it wrecked Bush's second term and

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<v Speaker 2>they thought, oh, well, rerun that playbook. So they keep

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<v Speaker 2>trying to rerun these old playbooks. But I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>less and less persuasive. And I'll give you one more

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<v Speaker 2>of several I could do. I've noticed a conspicuous silence

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<v Speaker 2>from Democrats about all the cuts to green energy that

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<v Speaker 2>were in the One Big, Beautiful Bill, And you would

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<v Speaker 2>think they would be saying, we're going to die because

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<v Speaker 2>we're cutting all the green energy because now we're not

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<v Speaker 2>fighting climate change instead. Apparently, the latest figure I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that Politico reported five House Democrats have joined in endorsing

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's plan to get rid of California's electric car mandate, which,

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<v Speaker 2>of course that's spread across the country. And so that shows,

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<v Speaker 2>as some people have been saying, is that the green

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<v Speaker 2>mania is in retreat at the moment. And so what

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<v Speaker 2>have Democrats got, Well, they've got Mondani running in New York. Boy,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>A great story for it? Indeed, I think California is

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<v Speaker 1>shutting down some refineries as well, under the belief that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps they will be able to power their cars the

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<v Speaker 1>old Flintstone way, and that's the most ecologically safety Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you taken away from the followed from the BB.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's an enormous amount. It's such a big bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure it's beautiful, but it's such a big

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<v Speaker 3>bill that it's quite hard for serious people to take

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<v Speaker 3>a unified approach to it. Now that doesn't include those who,

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<v Speaker 3>of course a demogogueing people were discussing. But there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot in that to alike. And then there's arts in

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<v Speaker 3>there not to like. For example, if you had told

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<v Speaker 3>a physical conservative two or three years ago, not only

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<v Speaker 3>will all of the twenty seventeen tax cuts be renewed,

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<v Speaker 3>but we'll get full expensing, I would have just jumped

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<v Speaker 3>for joy. Some of the rest of it less so,

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<v Speaker 3>but they shouldn't undermine the achievements. The Democrats are in

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<v Speaker 3>a very weird position here because although they are pretending

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<v Speaker 3>that everyone's going to die from medicaid, not even cuts

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<v Speaker 3>slowed growth. And although they are upset that the Inflation

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<v Speaker 3>Reduction Act, which had nothing to do with inflation has

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<v Speaker 3>been partly rescinded. They also agreed that the vast majority

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<v Speaker 3>of the cuts to taxes in the twenty seventeen should remain.

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<v Speaker 3>They're glossing over that, but that is a huge hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 3>something I've observed over the last few years. James's conservatives

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<v Speaker 3>often don't give themselves enough credit, especially on taxes. We

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<v Speaker 3>get all of this, or what if you were concerned

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<v Speaker 3>were conservatives were conserved? Well, here is a change. When

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<v Speaker 3>Hillary Clinton ran for president twenty sixteen, she said that

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<v Speaker 3>nobody who made more than less sorry than two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty thousand dollars a year would see a tax increase.

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<v Speaker 3>When Kamala Harris ran for president in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>that number was four hundred thousand dollars. Now, if you

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<v Speaker 3>go back thirty years, no Democrat would have promised that.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I mentioned that is we don't even have

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<v Speaker 3>to say, well, of course Democrats wanted to keep a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the tax cuts. They said they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>keep most of the tax cuts. And yet they're again

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<v Speaker 3>pretending every single statement that they put out that this

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<v Speaker 3>was a tax cut for billionaires. So that's all this

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<v Speaker 3>did was cut the taxes of billionaires. So it's very frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also a reason why we shouldn't legislate by this

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<v Speaker 3>like this. We really should actually have lots of smaller

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<v Speaker 3>bills and actually debate things and not have physical clefts

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<v Speaker 3>and so on. But my takeaway from this is there

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<v Speaker 3>are of course disagreements of America, and there are disagreements

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<v Speaker 3>over the Inflation Reduction Act, but most of the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that is in this bill is actually stuff Democrats wanted

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<v Speaker 3>and they got their sole deduction back. So the idea like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the worst bill I've ever seen, which I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen some Democrats say there's the worst bill in American history.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an astonishing thing to say. The fugitive slave access.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just another reason why a lot of our politics

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<v Speaker 3>are so silly, because it's nothing of the sort.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree that I would like to see smaller bills.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be nice to see all of these things

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<v Speaker 1>in individually enumerated, delineated, and then voted up and down

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<v Speaker 1>so we have a clearer view of who's believing what

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<v Speaker 1>and what they say and do. I agree. I also

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any way back to that, at least However,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a bill that somebody voted on as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to continuing resolutions to just roll everything over into the

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<v Speaker 1>blob that just rolls and rolls on. So there's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen mentioned the green energy, but it's curious read a

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<v Speaker 1>tweet the other day that somebody said, after twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>of green energy, you have better lamps and better appliances

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<v Speaker 1>and better home stuff and all this stuff. My electricity

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<v Speaker 1>costs is twice what it was before, which means it

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<v Speaker 1>me entirely accurate. But you get that feeling. I outfitted

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<v Speaker 1>my house with all of the finest and greatest LEDs,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my Energy Star compliance appliances and the like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't seen a reduction whatsoever could possibly be

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<v Speaker 1>because rates go up because of a push to make

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<v Speaker 1>the grid earth friendly, etc. That's losing it. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that feels like a dead issue now. It just it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like after the Green New Deal of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the AOC years, there's no enthusiasm for that anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>it seems that the Democrats find themselves in a position

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<v Speaker 1>where all of the things that they all the standards

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<v Speaker 1>that they held so high are tattered and the flagpoles

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<v Speaker 1>have have have wilted in the in the hot sun

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<v Speaker 1>of disapproval and indifference. And yeah, Steven said, what do

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<v Speaker 1>they have they got this guy in New York. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the future then of the party an appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who absolutely want their communism and they want

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<v Speaker 1>it now, fresh and hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean we've talked about this before a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times. At the same time, you have this enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 2>among some of the progressive thinking class, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Ezra Kline for the abundance agenda, and a few politicians

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<v Speaker 2>gingerly putting a toe in the water. Even Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>for half an hour said yeah, I think I'm for this. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>I just picked up the latest New York Review of

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<v Speaker 2>Books because I read it so you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a long review of several books about the

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<v Speaker 2>whole de growth agenda, and one of them even is

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<v Speaker 2>called de growth communism. I mean, talk about putting it

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<v Speaker 2>all out there in playing view without any euphemisms, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is perfect. Right, So you know that

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<v Speaker 2>old religion dies hard, but I think, yeah, the practical

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<v Speaker 2>politicians realize that this has been a vote loser for democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>But the main point the abundance people. They just say

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<v Speaker 2>one thing sensible, which is, can't democrats somewhere pick a

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<v Speaker 2>city and run it well and you know, make the

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<v Speaker 2>schools work, clean up the streets, produce crime? How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And you would think there'd be least there weren't in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen nineties a few Democratic mayors like you know, North Quistan, Milwaukee,

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple others who ran their cities in a

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<v Speaker 2>sensible way. And so that might be a place to start.

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<v Speaker 2>But I let me start in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start, let me stop you right there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea. It depends, however, on an electorate that

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<v Speaker 1>is willing to be comfortable with some uncomfortable things. After

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<v Speaker 1>my recent experience as a I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>a victim of crime because I hate the sound of that.

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<v Speaker 1>As a non enthusiastic participant in the rearrangement of my

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<v Speaker 1>personal property, let's put it that way. I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>find one of the air pods because the carjacker had

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<v Speaker 1>thrown my aarpods out at three locations, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>really devious, just evil. So I have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>and look into the boulevard and the gutter and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it. And I would explain to people why

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<v Speaker 1>I was on their lawn looking, And once everybody heard

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<v Speaker 1>what had happened to me, everybody had their own story.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they weren't necessarily carjacking, but it was thievery, it

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<v Speaker 1>was miscreens in the neighborhood, it was bad stuff. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>had a story, and everybody was equally convinced that nothing

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be done to any of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who had done these things. And as long as they

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<v Speaker 1>keep voting in the same people that they do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I presume that they do because they all want to

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<v Speaker 1>be thought of as good people and somebody who votes

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<v Speaker 1>for those you know, nazis, nothing will change. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a mayor to say that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the broken windows and squeegee guys things, But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be that that's from their side. There, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I should correct myself. I read the other day that

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Adams is actually trying to do like real mayor

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like they used to do to make lives better

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<v Speaker 1>for his constituencies, which is what mayors is supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, what's in it for them necessarily if

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<v Speaker 1>they are getting rich and their friends are getting rich

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<v Speaker 1>on the graft and everybody else in their party is

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<v Speaker 1>doing okay, what's in it for them to go all

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see one, But Charles helped me out here

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, although I do think I would be careful in

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<v Speaker 3>right because you don't want to end up being prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's what you worry about. I mean the cerea

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all these little calculations that go through your head. Unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to make a comment about de growth communism.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I was at Oxford, I saw a debate

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<v Speaker 3>at the Oxford Union. I can't remember the topic of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was this absolutely hilarious moment where the guy

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side from my friend made some concession,

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<v Speaker 3>rhetorical concession. My friends did up and he said he said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>in mock helpfulness, he said, no, no, you don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you just said what I am here to

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<v Speaker 3>get you to say. You don't say that. You say

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<v Speaker 3>anything you can to avoid saying what you just said,

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<v Speaker 3>which loses you the debate. And I spent my time

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get you to say what you just said,

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<v Speaker 3>but you came out and said it at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just hilarious and it was just a brilliant

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<v Speaker 3>rhetorical trick. When someone says I'm for de growth communism,

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<v Speaker 3>that reminds me of that. No, no, you don't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>We we say that, that's our criticism of you being

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<v Speaker 3>Where's the fun in that it's a fit like the

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<v Speaker 3>Monty Python haggled properly from Life for Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well, they say, they say, because they believe it to,

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<v Speaker 1>not that it's it sounds good to people. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>those are absolutely attributes of which they witched trumpet.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Steve, well here I've actually got the I've

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<v Speaker 2>looked up the actual titles. Charlie, it's even better. It's

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<v Speaker 2>even better than you thought. The title of one of

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<v Speaker 2>the books is Marx in the Anthrops Scene towards the

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<v Speaker 2>Idea of de growth Communism. Now, is this book published

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<v Speaker 2>by Island Press or some little obscure Greenee publishing house. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's published by Cambridge University Press. By the way, a

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<v Speaker 2>mayor one hundred and ten dollars for the hardback. That'll

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<v Speaker 2>generate a few communists. It's amazing. You can't make this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, if you're inculcated to believe that that

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<v Speaker 1>system ever combined, ever created on the planet, then yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you would want all manifestations of it to

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota professor who's talking about the need to decolonize and

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<v Speaker 1>dismantle America. And they say this as though America is

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<v Speaker 1>some so of is this object that once removed, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but goodness will happen, That the systems that immediately and

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<v Speaker 1>effortlessly flow into place will empower all, will cause abundance,

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<v Speaker 1>will make everybody absolutely just jack Dandy happy. When what

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<v Speaker 1>of nature. And it's remarkable. It's the sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you only hear. It's so stupid you

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<v Speaker 1>could only hear it from an academic according to the man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's the classic human nature problem. We see

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<v Speaker 3>this a little bit on the right at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some people who believe that the entire modern

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<v Speaker 3>And most funny about them is that in that Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>avatars or that general esthetic preferences, they have pictures of

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<v Speaker 3>statues of Caesar because they think they would have been Caesar,

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<v Speaker 3>when actually they wouldn't. And it's the same with these

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<v Speaker 3>common sides. They all think that if there was some

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<v Speaker 3>revolution and then we entered into communism, they'd be the artist, right,

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<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't be the guy who cleaned the latrines. They

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<v Speaker 3>would get the plumb allocation. They would get to a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of paints, and they would get a ceiling to

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<v Speaker 3>spend their days using them on. And this is of

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<v Speaker 3>course absolute nonsense, and the ceiling would collapse on them,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully quickly before they knew it. But they don't think that.

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<v Speaker 3>They think that they would. They would be given all

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<v Speaker 3>of the best choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but not necessarily so, because I followed the same accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>or they pop in my stuff too, and they all

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes will say, you know, yes, I realized the class distinctions,

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, there was a simplicity to life. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a sturdiness, there was an honorable quality to it. A

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<v Speaker 1>at some of these studies, peasants worked actually less than

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<v Speaker 1>people do in America today. I know, I know, you

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<v Speaker 1>see this all the time, and it's nonsense on its face.

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<v Speaker 1>But conversely, I think there are things to learn from

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<v Speaker 1>the past. There are some details motors operendez, motors vivendi

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<v Speaker 1>that that that bear consideration, and perhaps modernizing, integration and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. I like studying the past, but

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<v Speaker 1>a clear eyed view of it means that you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>So while while yes, having these sorts of cultural solidity

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<v Speaker 1>and national identification in the so that's that's that's good,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can learn. But yeah, you're you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>the X is gnashing and whaling of teeth over the

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<v Speaker 1>I read by this was Ace over an Ace of spades,

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<v Speaker 1>sure you tell them a little of this, a little

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I went on record here a month

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<v Speaker 2>But let's remember that there were also rumors a few

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that didn't exist either. Look, I mean

415
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<v Speaker 2>assume the worst speculations that he was running a blackmail

416
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<v Speaker 2>operation or some kind of genteel shakedown. You know, he's

417
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<v Speaker 2>not going to keep a list. He would have long

418
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<v Speaker 2>ago cleaned up and made it all go away. He

419
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<v Speaker 2>was a pretty smart guy. Pretty twisted guy, but obviously

420
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<v Speaker 2>a pretty smart guy. I still wonder who's the guy

421
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<v Speaker 2>was Wexler. Wexner, one of those guys who paid Epstein,

422
00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.279
<v Speaker 2>has claimed something like one hundred and fifty million dollars

423
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<v Speaker 2>for tax advice. That doesn't seem right. Even the most

424
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<v Speaker 2>expensive law firm doesn't charge that much by the hour,

425
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<v Speaker 2>So it had to be something else, And you know,

426
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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard that explain in a detail. It had

427
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<v Speaker 2>to be some kind of partnership of some some crazy

428
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<v Speaker 2>equity thing. It can't have been tax advice. So this

429
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<v Speaker 2>whole thing has been built on rumors and crazy stuff

430
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<v Speaker 2>from the very beginning. I'm afraid.

431
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<v Speaker 3>I never believed in the list either. I also think

432
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<v Speaker 3>that the racy theories don't make much sense. So we

433
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<v Speaker 3>have a president Donald Trump, who has I think it's

434
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<v Speaker 3>fair to say, been victimized by the intelligence services. At

435
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<v Speaker 3>least they haven't been nice to him. We have an

436
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:20.960
<v Speaker 3>FBI director, Cash Patel, who dislikes the intelligence services. He

437
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:24.720
<v Speaker 3>dislikes the organization he runs. He thinks it's been a

438
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<v Speaker 3>malign force in American history. I agree with him on that.

439
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<v Speaker 3>And we have Dan Bongino, who is very much in

440
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<v Speaker 3>touch with the base, especially the sort of people who

441
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<v Speaker 3>think that there's a list or that this has been

442
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<v Speaker 3>covered up under the Biden administration. And those people are

443
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<v Speaker 3>all saying, actually, there is nothing here now. The only

444
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<v Speaker 3>reason that I can think of, rationally that they would

445
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>lie about that, because I think announcing it would be

446
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.240
<v Speaker 3>pretty good for them. I think they'd enjoy doing that

447
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:02.480
<v Speaker 3>is if Donald Trump were in some way implicated. But

448
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<v Speaker 3>that's got to be absolute nonsense too, because first off,

449
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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden would have said something. Biden went after him

450
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<v Speaker 3>in any way he possibly could. They tried to prosecute him,

451
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<v Speaker 3>as did the state of New York, which has an

452
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<v Speaker 3>access to Jeffrey Epstein. And even if Biden hadn't done that,

453
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<v Speaker 3>for some reason, a person in the federal government would have.

454
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<v Speaker 3>There would have been a leak or a whistleblower or

455
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<v Speaker 3>a guy who came forward. Of course there would that

456
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<v Speaker 3>person would have had he had the goods made fifty

457
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<v Speaker 3>million dollars from a book deal. So you've got the

458
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<v Speaker 3>people who already profoundly dislike the intelligence services on the

459
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.640
<v Speaker 3>right side of the aisle are saying there's nothing there,

460
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<v Speaker 3>And then you have the only reason that they wouldn't

461
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 3>want to do that being absolutely ridiculous. The most investigated

462
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<v Speaker 3>man in the world is Donald Trump. Doesn't it make

463
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<v Speaker 3>more sense just to say Jeffrey Epstein was clearly an

464
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<v Speaker 3>evil man who did evil things, but he didn't write

465
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<v Speaker 3>it all down.

466
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<v Speaker 1>It strikes me as utterly reasonable. I'm still trying to

467
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<v Speaker 1>get past the fact, and I've never been able to

468
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>eye bleach this out of my brain, and that Epstein

469
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<v Speaker 1>had a big oil painting of Bill Clinton in a

470
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<v Speaker 1>blue dress and red heels. Yeah, the audacity of the

471
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<v Speaker 1>audacity of that, and the fact that Clinton probably saw

472
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<v Speaker 1>it and yucked and said that's a good one. I mean,

473
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:33.559
<v Speaker 1>everybody would see it when they walked into his place

474
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>just sort of tells you the type of individual character

475
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 1>that we're that we're talking about here.

476
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, who needs who needs a list when you

477
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.720
<v Speaker 2>could have made that painting public Clinton?

478
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<v Speaker 1>So I don't believe that that the the island had

479
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that little temple, there had secret elevators that went down

480
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to operating rooms where they removed the adrena chrome or

481
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is from the brains of infants. That that

482
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that whole common pizza ping punk pizza thing, the madness

483
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of that, whatever happened, by the way to Q has

484
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>has the storm finally blown itself out? Because you don't

485
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>hear an awful lot of people talking about Q anymore.

486
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering what has replaced it in the space

487
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>of in the mind space of those people who fervently

488
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>believed that the revelations were about to drop.

489
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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea I've wondered that too, and I've

490
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>got no clue what may have replaced it.

491
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they need it anymore. To be frank, well,

492
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>elsewhere in the news this last week. I mean, it's

493
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 1>the fourth of July and normal, but stuff did happen.

494
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>We had, you know, I have a feed that I

495
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 1>have a news feed that was that was. Oh no,

496
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I don't want to talk about Shawn Combs,

497
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 1>John Puffy Combs. I want to talk about Sean Duffy shoes.

498
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Apparently there's a new now. I always said that when

499
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<v Speaker 1>you take off your shoes at the airport to go

500
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>through the security line, that there should be a statue

501
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>of the shoe bomber at the end of the line

502
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 1>that you can throw your footwear at, just just to

503
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>get your anger out of that. That bastard for doing

504
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>what he did, that made everybody take off their shoes

505
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 1>for twenty years. But now apparently we don't. We don't.

506
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Do you know why? And do you think that these

507
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>guys are going to be less safe now that their

508
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>shoes will not be examined by X Ray's.

509
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think we ever needed to do it

510
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>in the first place. Supposedly the new scanners and technology

511
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>can pick up a doctored shoe. I don't know. I

512
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Europeans. Charlie helped me out on this.

513
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Europeans ever went in for the

514
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 2>shoe removal business.

515
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, the British did, but they abolished it last year.

516
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Last Okay, yeah, anyway, I mean I was joking for

517
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the last twenty years, and I'd vote for the first

518
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>presidential candidate who said we could keep our shoes on

519
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>at the airport. And then, of course I got signed

520
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>up for pre check several years ago, so I've been

521
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:57.079
<v Speaker 2>able to skip the getting the laptop out and the

522
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.839
<v Speaker 2>and taking my shoes off. I did like the last comment.

523
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>The Babylon Pee had one of their classic headlines saying,

524
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 2>you now can keep your shoes on before TSA gropes you.

525
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was wondering, Steve, how if I don't have

526
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>to watch other people take their shoes off, I'm going

527
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>to feel better than the other passengers who don't have

528
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 3>TSA pre I'm going to need a new form of

529
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.079
<v Speaker 3>separate now, I'm kidding. I never thought this would happen.

530
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I never thought it would happen, not because it ever

531
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 3>made any sense that we did this, but because the

532
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 3>incentives in a democratic system all line up against repealing

533
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 3>bad ideas like this, because if in the tiny chance

534
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 3>that somebody was wearing shoes when they blow it blow

535
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 3>up a plane, the president or agency that rescinded that

536
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>order would be blended. If you look. For example, we

537
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 3>haven't touched on it, but at these horrendous floods in Texas,

538
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 3>they are quite clearly nothing to do with the fact

539
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 3>that Donald Trump is president, the Greg Abbott is governor

540
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 3>of Texas. The doge existed, but that is the line.

541
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 3>So I always assumed, well, presidents are smart enough to

542
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>know that, and although this is theater, they don't want

543
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.920
<v Speaker 3>to be the guy whose decisional tenure happened to intersect

544
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 3>with a terrorist attack. And I'm so so happy that

545
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong. It never occurred to me.

546
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 1>No, we did it because the encroachment on freedom only

547
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>goes one way. We think. Our shower heads will never

548
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 1>be more powerful, our dishwashers will never wash like they

549
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>did before, our toilets will not flush with a robust

550
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 1>capacity that they did twenty five years ago. We will

551
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 1>never be able to not wear a shit. But you know,

552
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I feel like now if I went into a coma

553
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and woke up in twenty years and went to the airport,

554
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I started taking off my belt and my shoes, people

555
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 1>would be appauled. What are you doing? What are you doing?

556
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Just it's TSA, isn't no? You just walk over to

557
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the plane here, have a cigarette. I mean they was

558
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.119
<v Speaker 1>reverting back to Nay teen sixty seven when I last

559
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>was overseas in London and in the Roman airports. I'm

560
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>pleased to note that the scanning detection that they have

561
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is remarkable. They make these three D models, these image,

562
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 1>these three D models that they can then examine from

563
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 1>every angle blow up go into. I should have said

564
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 1>blow up and it's it's remarkable. But I always hate

565
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it because I'm always the guy whose bag goes on

566
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 1>the dreaded second to shoot because and I'm glad that

567
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>they are, because I my bag looks dangerous. My bag

568
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 1>looks like I am a maniac. I should be in

569
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a black hair shirt with bag with bushy hair holding

570
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.279
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a boris bad enough bomb in my

571
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>hand because there's so many wires and batteries and they

572
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.279
<v Speaker 1>have you know, they're just paging. Why do you need

573
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 1>so many cords? Well, I'm traveling with my wife and daughter.

574
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Each of them has their own dedicated uh accessory battery

575
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>cord that we that I that I provide for them

576
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 1>so they're you can see their color coded here and well,

577
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 1>these large batteries are for on the on the train.

578
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Smaller ones are for an ex. I mean, you know,

579
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>explain everything to them. But I'm glad. And it's also this.

580
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>They also see your face and they got always all

581
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:11.279
<v Speaker 1>kinds of ways to see your face as you're in

582
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>line and walking up the minute you walk into the airport, uh,

583
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and they know your face and they know who you are.

584
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 1>And I would love to know which face of mine

585
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>they have. I'd love to know where it is. But

586
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I walk into a Roman airport and the Roman airport

587
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 1>says oh James Loleax Minneapolis, Minnesota, Rivederla. So yeah, that's

588
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>why we can, that's why we can keep our shoes on.

589
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 3>This would never happen to their return people who would

590
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 3>be the ones making that determination.

591
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, No, it wouldn't. But of course since everybody

592
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 1>lived probably about you know, spent their entire life five

593
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>miles from their birth. They wouldn't have to worry about

594
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 1>security checks when they go to some other places you

595
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the floods. The floods they tried to blame on

596
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>cuts to the NWS, They tried to blame on abbot,

597
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 1>they tried to blame on understaffing. In other words, the

598
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 1>whole idea that the government, if not funded at current

599
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 1>levels and then more so, results in imminent death. And

600
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>also what they love about these is the fact that

601
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it's weather and having the sort of paganistic fear of

602
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Guaya that they do. They believe that this is caused

603
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>by somebody starting up in suv in nineteen eighty seven

604
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 1>and contributing the fatal amount of carbon dioxide that her

605
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>monoxide or dioxe, whatever, the greenhouse gas that's going to

606
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 1>kill us all. But as we were saying before, these

607
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>claims are falling on deaf ears. Everybody's been hearing them

608
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>for twenty years, and the earth is okay. But yet

609
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we're still supposed to believe that these ones once in

610
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a one hundred year life events are magnifying and increasing

611
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and getting more deadly. But none of that is sticking.

612
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>All this stuff is like putting a post it note

613
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>on a sweating man just it just isn't working. And

614
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the ghouls who would populate social media right away and

615
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 1>gleefully blame this one. The editorial cartoonist of legitimate newspapers

616
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>blame it on the people who deny climate change or

617
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the people who voted for immigration reform, and the rest

618
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of it is off putting extreme to the normies, as

619
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>they say, right.

620
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think people are suffering from apocalypse fatigue

621
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 2>at this point. And this is li isn't brand new.

622
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean I filed away. I think way back around

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<v Speaker 2>wonder for being too apocalyptic with this environmental business, because

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<v Speaker 2>my perception is environmental alarms are now like car alarms,

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<v Speaker 2>something blaring in the background that we're starting to tune

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<v Speaker 2>out and ignore. Well, I think now we actually have

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<v Speaker 2>the op polling data in on this is it's now

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you actually had the Democratic analyst David

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<v Speaker 2>Shore a year ago telling Democrats from his very careful

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<v Speaker 2>that talking about electric cars loses votes for Democrats, and

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<v Speaker 1>responsing this the Ricochet Podcast. Let's see, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much set the world at rights here going down

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<v Speaker 1>the list of things about which the concern is mounting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, what what hit today? Well, Friday in

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<v Speaker 1>most the deadest thing you can imagine. Right, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot left. So I'm gonna ask you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>what is something that you have been watching that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that enough people are paying attention to? But

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<v Speaker 1>as consequential nevertheless, Well, James.

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<v Speaker 2>I was expecting you to bring up the new Superman movie, which, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>well I almost did. Well, well, now I'll make you

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<v Speaker 2>because it sounds like it's going to be a bomb

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<v Speaker 2>at the box office. We'll see about that. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know they've changed it from truth justice in the American

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<v Speaker 2>way to truth justice and the human way.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh?

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<v Speaker 2>And what the director is? A James Gun or somebody

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<v Speaker 2>Gun says, well, you know Superman was an immigrant. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an immigrant story and like wait a minut, no, he

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<v Speaker 2>was well from another planet, right, he was raised in America.

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<v Speaker 2>To try and politicize this movie in even such a

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<v Speaker 2>hamheaded way, seems like a real blunder. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed this morning that this White House that should never

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<v Speaker 2>have blundered this way, this White House, not the White House,

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<v Speaker 2>should have blundered, but Hollywood shouldn't have blundered. They put

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<v Speaker 2>out an AI drawing Trump in a Superman suit. I

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<v Speaker 2>stand for truth, Justice and the American Way. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>epic troll on all this. And so I'm gonna watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna watch the box office and see what the

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<v Speaker 2>word of mouth is on the movie. It's getting mixed

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<v Speaker 2>reviews so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. James Gunn was loved by some for the quirky,

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<v Speaker 1>quippy tone that he brought to Guardians of the Galaxy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the first Guardian. It had a great

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<v Speaker 1>charm to it. Walking through listening to you know, hooga

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<v Speaker 1>Shaka at the beginning, he thought, oh, this is new.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately quippiness is one of those things that infected

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<v Speaker 1>all the Marvel movies, which gave made them a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of weightless. People don't say these things after they've just

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<v Speaker 1>saved the world. And then of course it was swamped

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<v Speaker 1>by also darkness and complexity in the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Marvel movies became almost unwatchable. They seemed like homework,

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<v Speaker 1>and I fell away from them. I've never been a

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<v Speaker 1>Superman guy, because what's the interest there. He's Superman, He's vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't you know, Oh yeah, Krypton brings him down.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought as a kid that the Superman books were stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>because in every other one of them it was what

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<v Speaker 1>if Superman actually had a peg leg and it would

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<v Speaker 1>be one of those stories, or Lois Lane and Lana

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<v Speaker 1>Lang would be catfighting in the right. Well, that actually

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<v Speaker 1>was a pretty good episode, but there's nothing about him

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<v Speaker 1>interested in me. The only thing, however, that you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>can take away from the sixty Superman's was that they

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<v Speaker 1>did do PSAs and which Superman would tell a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of kids not to be prejudice that everybody's an American here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all born in America, roll citizens. Your national origin

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't count. And you could say that was him being

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<v Speaker 1>woke back then, but no, that was the usual good

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship stuff that they used to do all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>What Gun has done with the statements that he's made,

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<v Speaker 1>is indicated that he doesn't realize the nature of the

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<v Speaker 1>complaints about illegal immigration. Nobody's talking is it is not

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<v Speaker 1>anti American to be against anti illegal immigration. We love

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<v Speaker 1>our immigrants, right, Charles, You should do. We do, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would be less without them. But there's a process,

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<v Speaker 1>there's legality, there's a number of people. There's the question

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<v Speaker 1>of dumping fifteen thousand people into a community of fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand without thinking that the culture was going to go

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<v Speaker 1>under stresses and the rest of it. It's this complex argument,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to reduce it down to your

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<v Speaker 1>stupid comic book terms, then you're an idiot. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>presume you're an idiot, and I'll watch the movie with

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind. That said, everything I've read about it

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<v Speaker 1>makes this thing sound weightless and jokey and quippy. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's redo it and rethink it. And while there's room

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and a competent director and a they could

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I trust Kyle Smith when he says, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that. I don't think they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give you one little footnote to it, James,

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<v Speaker 2>that will amuse you. The New York Times has a

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<v Speaker 2>story out today. The headline is Superman's other secret weakness

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<v Speaker 2>journalism ethics. Subhead writing the Daily Planet about his heroic

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<v Speaker 2>alter ego raises thorny issues for Clark Kent. Lois Lane

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<v Speaker 2>has her conflicts too. Now, I mean, I haven't read Peace.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to. I've got to think that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this is a lame of tempet satire. But I'll bet not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet this is somebody that really thinks that there's

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<v Speaker 2>something wrong with this depiction of Clark Kent.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear me, hope there is way do they learn

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<v Speaker 1>about a guy named Peter Parker who would set up

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<v Speaker 1>his camera to take pictures of this spider man fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another questionable set of ethics for you. I just

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea. I mean, I'm keen to see if

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<v Speaker 1>this movie takes place in an actual newsroom, because if

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be a newsroom of twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>and there's more than five people in the office, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if it's one of those places full of

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<v Speaker 1>clattering keys and people shouting copyboy and wreaths of cigar smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's nineteen forty seven Daily Planet. That isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't here. And even though we have a globe

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<v Speaker 1>in our lobby that looks like something you would have

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<v Speaker 1>in a classic newspaper. The whole idea of the paper

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<v Speaker 1>as it was in the Daily Bugle is gone. Charles.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you a comic book reader growing up? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have any favorites of your own?

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't and I'm still not, and mostly I'm disinterested

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<v Speaker 3>in comic book movies, although I thought the Christopher Nolan

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<v Speaker 3>Batman trilogy was spectacular, and I liked the Iron Man

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<v Speaker 3>movie with Robert Danney Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the quippiness, oh and you mentioned got

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<v Speaker 3>into the guy because that was good to the quippiness

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<v Speaker 3>does bother me. Though. I saw someone on Twitter the

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<v Speaker 3>other day showing the scene in Jurassic Park where the

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<v Speaker 3>two paleontologists first see the dinosaur, and they said, you

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<v Speaker 3>know that movie had been made now by someone other

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<v Speaker 3>than Spielberg, they would have made a quip to show

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<v Speaker 3>how cool they were, rather than been overalled. And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that that was a fair point. My problem with

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<v Speaker 3>the Superman movie, aside from things the director have said

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<v Speaker 3>which have irritated me too, for all the reasons you outlined,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just that I just don't think it looks very

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<v Speaker 3>good and okay, I'm obviously not the target audience because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big superhero movie so stipulated, but I

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<v Speaker 3>really actually wanted to be excited to go and see

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<v Speaker 3>this because I have two boys, right seven and nine,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, well, when I was ten, I loved

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<v Speaker 3>the Superman series with Terry Hatcher and Dean Kane, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, well, they would probably love to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the movie theater, which they love going to the movie theater,

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<v Speaker 3>and to see the Superman movie. And I've watched the trailer,

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<v Speaker 3>and I tried so hard with the first couple of

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<v Speaker 3>trailers that I sought to get excited about going to

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<v Speaker 3>see it, and I just don't think it looks right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's amazing, but everyone who has seen whose opinion

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<v Speaker 3>I respect, says it's not so. Between that and the

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<v Speaker 3>trailers that didn't excite me at all and the director

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<v Speaker 3>being annoying, I think I'm going to skip it right.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole business about going from truth justice in the

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<v Speaker 1>American way to the Human way fails on two levels. One,

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<v Speaker 1>the human way is actually not that good. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not something that we if I had a choice to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a society full of humans and here's a society

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<v Speaker 1>full of Americans. I'm going to go with the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's got the concepts of law and order in individuality

839
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<v Speaker 1>and personal responsibility as opposed to the ones that are

840
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<v Speaker 1>that are basically blood maddened, you know, resource expropriating feral humans.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the human way, unmediated by law and by

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<v Speaker 1>tradition and culture is bad. And America is a law,

843
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<v Speaker 1>tradition and culture. So he's stupid in that way again

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<v Speaker 1>to think that there is something human that is on

845
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<v Speaker 1>a plane above evil of Americanism. But also Superman has

846
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<v Speaker 1>done this before. I think you were in one. He

847
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<v Speaker 1>renounced his citizenship and became a United Nations ambassador or

848
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<v Speaker 1>something like that. I mean, they love to do this,

849
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<v Speaker 1>and they love to point out exactly that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got roots as an immigrant. He's a reflection of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish immigrant experience and all that stuff. And hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Clark Kent didn't have his papers when he

853
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<v Speaker 1>landed in Smallville. And these are all tedious, small, little,

854
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<v Speaker 1>anal retentive details that forget the basics of the story

855
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<v Speaker 1>that he landed here a blank slate and his and

856
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<v Speaker 1>by being raised by two loving people in the middle

857
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<v Speaker 1>of the Midwest. He grew up to embody these characteristics,

858
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<v Speaker 1>and that says something about the culture that we'd like

859
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<v Speaker 1>to think. And even if we don't think it's true

860
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<v Speaker 1>all the time, it's something that we should strive to

861
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<v Speaker 1>incorporate into our national mythology. No harm in that. But basically,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a guy who you know, bullets bounced

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<v Speaker 1>off his chest and he's got laser beams out of

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes. So let's not take all that too seriously. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we will see. I'm disappointed. But again here and here's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing, though, when are we going to get

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<v Speaker 1>past this idea that well, what I'm going to do,

868
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<v Speaker 1>and it's very brave, it's very edgy, is I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to subvert the audience's expectations about this long standing cultural institution.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have we been doing this?

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00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 3>You know what? What movie didn't do it? Top gun Maverick?

872
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 3>Right to start with some exposition about how planes actually suck?

873
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, you know what sucks?

874
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Planes? Planes suck and pilots pilots suck too, And who

875
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 3>cares whether America wins all the nameless enemy? Iran uh?

876
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<v Speaker 3>And do that?

877
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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>And for this f one movie that people seem to

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<v Speaker 3>like as well, does not seem to subvert the expectations

880
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<v Speaker 3>that cars that go very fast are cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I wrote about the F one movie in my

882
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<v Speaker 1>blog the other day because I ran across a piece

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<v Speaker 1>that said, we need to talk about female representation in

884
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<v Speaker 1>F one. Oh, And I thought, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. If anybody says we need to talk

886
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<v Speaker 1>about this, you look at your watch and you say,

887
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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I got a red canal, I gotta go

888
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<v Speaker 1>to We don't need to because, first of all, you know,

889
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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be a talk, it's going to

890
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<v Speaker 1>be a lecture. But the problem is is that the

891
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<v Speaker 1>F one audience is getting more and more female, and

892
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't enough representation in the movie. So that's a problem.

893
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 1>But you know, movies that are straight ahead and appeal

894
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<v Speaker 1>to that old style American movie going, people adore them.

895
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<v Speaker 1>People respond to them with huge waves of gratitude. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you, as good as I know

897
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<v Speaker 1>that they are, I have a real problem with Mission

898
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<v Speaker 1>Impossible movies because of something they did in the very

899
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<v Speaker 1>first one. They may spoiler alert for a movie it's

900
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<v Speaker 1>been off for twenty years. They made Jim Phelps into

901
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<v Speaker 1>a trader. And I remember sitting there and thinking, I mean,

902
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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say childhood ruined and the rest of it,

903
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.880
<v Speaker 1>but I grew up admiring the hell out of Jim Phelps,

904
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<v Speaker 1>and to do this to that character, just just for

905
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a twist, Oh, he was evil all along. Look at

906
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that Captain America's actually hydra. I hate this stuff. It's

907
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 1>the most boring, predictable trope you can get these days.

908
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think I recall reading that it was

909
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<v Speaker 2>a greg and I think maybe Peter Graves was still

910
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<v Speaker 2>alive and hated the movie and walked out of it

911
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<v Speaker 2>and wouldn't have anything to do with it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>quite agree with you about I.

913
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<v Speaker 1>Think for that reason. I think for that reason, and

914
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 1>if Martin landa who had been alive, and Barbara Bain,

915
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<v Speaker 1>that's right, Martin Lando and Barbara Bin I think. And

916
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<v Speaker 1>then of course Spock joined the show a little bit later, right, yes, right,

917
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<v Speaker 1>I just I absolutely loved that show very much.

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<v Speaker 2>But now the other thing, James that I think here

919
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<v Speaker 2>I want to prompt Charlie that happened this week is

920
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<v Speaker 2>I thought we were all done with the Supreme Court

921
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<v Speaker 2>for the summer right, Oh, you know, the term ended. Instead,

922
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<v Speaker 2>we have all this new commotion happening, including the Supreme

923
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<v Speaker 2>Court say no, we really meant it about district courts

924
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<v Speaker 2>doing universal injunctions. And there was the amazing spectacle I

925
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<v Speaker 2>never would have predicted of Sonya Sotomayor hectoring Katanji Brown

926
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<v Speaker 2>Jackson to say, you don't really know what the law is,

927
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<v Speaker 2>do you? And over to you, Charlie, because you wrote

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<v Speaker 2>wonderfully about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was you don't really know what the law is,

930
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<v Speaker 3>do you? But also I think the broader message was

931
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<v Speaker 3>you don't really know what your job, yes is do you?

932
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<v Speaker 3>I wrote about this because we love the rule of

933
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<v Speaker 3>three in journalism. If you have three examples of something,

934
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<v Speaker 3>your golden ah, that's the column. And we have three

935
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<v Speaker 3>examples now. The first was I'm going in reverse water.

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<v Speaker 3>Katandi Brown Jackson herself in an ABC interview, saying that

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<v Speaker 3>she loves being on the Supreme Court because it gives

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<v Speaker 3>her the opportunity to share in her opinions what she

939
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<v Speaker 3>thinks about the issues. She also said she likes to

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<v Speaker 3>share her feelings, and she said that she likes to

941
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<v Speaker 3>talk about how the country should work and this bothered

942
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<v Speaker 3>me because judges are not supposed to talk about how

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<v Speaker 3>the country should work. Citizens are supposed to talk about

944
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<v Speaker 3>how the country should work. Congress yes and state legislatures.

945
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<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to talk about how the country should

946
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<v Speaker 3>work within his limited realm. The president's supposed to talk

947
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<v Speaker 3>about how the country should work. But judges are not.

948
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<v Speaker 3>Judges are supposed to talk about how the country does

949
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<v Speaker 3>work and what the law is, not what it should be,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's certainly not supposed to share their feelings. And

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<v Speaker 3>it struck me that I'm not the only one who

952
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<v Speaker 3>thinks this. Clearly, Sonya sort of my all thinks this,

953
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<v Speaker 3>of all people to be chastised by, imagine being chastised

954
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<v Speaker 3>for not being good enough at your job by Sonya's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of my own who told Justice Jackson a few

956
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<v Speaker 3>days ago that sure, she also agrees that the president

957
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<v Speaker 3>must follow the law, but that they hadn't actually got

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<v Speaker 3>to that case yet, and the questions that were raised

959
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<v Speaker 3>in Jackson's descent hadn't actually been raised by the side

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<v Speaker 3>of the dispute, and that she should jump the gun.

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<v Speaker 3>And before that we had Amy Cony Barrett, who was

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<v Speaker 3>careful and judicious as a writer and as a justice

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<v Speaker 3>New King Jackson frankly for her descent, pointing out that

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<v Speaker 3>it was not connected to the Constitution or any statute,

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<v Speaker 3>or any doctrine or any canon of construction, and that

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<v Speaker 3>it was odd to hear a Supreme Court justice complaining

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<v Speaker 3>about legal ease, which is an actual talent that Jackson used.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was odd to hear a Supreme Court justice

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<v Speaker 3>complaining that both the majority opinion and the principal descent

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<v Speaker 3>were obsessed with that complicated and boring legal question, which

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<v Speaker 3>is again the nature of the job. And I just thought,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wrote this in the piece you refer to.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought that having listened to Jackson talk about

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<v Speaker 3>her role, she'd be much better. Are off starting a substag.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you're right, because we're about another term

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<v Speaker 1>away from her releasing a descent that consists of the

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<v Speaker 1>dog in a fiery room saying this is fine, alas, alas,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lack. Hey, listen, folks, it's a short week

979
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<v Speaker 1>this week for us, because, frankly, you got other things

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and we thank you for listening to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I would also like to insert several lines of boilerplate

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987
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<v Speaker 1>don't be that person. And if you haven't after seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty eight episodes gone to Ricochet and signed

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<v Speaker 1>up yet, I don't know what we can possibly do

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<v Speaker 1>except do another one next week that will make you say,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one. I'm going to give them my money now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind you, you can listen and you can read for

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<v Speaker 1>the member feed, where we discuss all manner of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's old radio, it's sports, it's movies, it's people coming

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<v Speaker 1>out and writing essays about how they're quitting today in

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<v Speaker 1>their life and journalism. I don't know who wrote that one,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of stuff. It's the community you've been looking

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<v Speaker 1>for in the Internet since they plugged the thing in.

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<v Speaker 1>So go there, sign up just a few shekels a

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<v Speaker 1>month and you'll be happy. I am happy that the

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<v Speaker 1>expanse of January July January July still stretches ahead. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got another hour and a half in the building where

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked for these many years, and just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hours left in a in a job I've been

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<v Speaker 1>at for twenty seven years, and I'm retiring today. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not retiring. That implies that I'm sort of hanging it up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not. As a matter of fact. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find me at lilax dot com and James Lilacott substack

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, as you can find Charles C. W. Cook

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<v Speaker 1>at the National Review and Stephen where can people pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the latest thing that you've written?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a substack these days I call political Questions.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you do Steve Hayward at substack, it pops up.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. So there's your reading for the weekend. Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget to hop on that cozy earth sail and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you at Ricochet, and we'll see you in

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<v Speaker 1>the comments at Ricochet for point zero. Bye bye, guys,
