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and the upbringing of one Teddy Roosevelt, the man, the myth,

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the legend. He's great to read about, but was he

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a bad hang find out on this episode of Softcore History.

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Welcome to Softcore History.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to soft Core History. I'm your host Fool Week,

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Dan Rejester, joined as always by Rob Fox, Hello, and

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very special guest Reunited. It is Icono Blast, it is Coop,

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it is Joe. It is a four man's show.

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Speaker 1: The Icono Boys are here full game show today though,

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we're just fucking party.

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Speaker 3: Former icono blast. Now we're Crime Corner Boys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crime crime Boys, crime.

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Speaker 4: Like a almost like a reunion tour just because we

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need the money at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: These are the other two. Yeah, these are the other

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two members of the Crime Corner family. Or you guys

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are calling yourself like crime cronies.

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Speaker 3: Oh, crime cronies.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, it's like the gayest gang that

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ever exists.

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Speaker 3: Crime cowards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crime cowards. But yeah, you guys are here. Jesse

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obviously the other part of that, who was on the

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show last week for a bonus EPI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But they're of course known for their history podcast,

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which you can still find on Apple and Spotify. That's right,

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I kind of blast. Yeah, so you can download those

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old episodes. You guys did like twenty episodes on Caesar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think thirteen in a row total thirteen probably

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about sixteen or seven thirteen zones, but some of them

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were kind of hidden his trying to see their episodes.

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Speaker 2: Well, in your honor, I decided to do a biography

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a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I was fucking stoked when you told me what the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, walked in Favorite People in History, we're doing Teddy doing.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you that I'm still annoyed to this

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day that. So my firstborn child, we call him Rory.

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His name is Robert Edward Fox the fourth, Robert D.

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Fox the third.

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Speaker 4: God damn, that's a good name.

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Speaker 1: I pitched over and fucking over, and we'd run out

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of Robert nicknames. Essentially. Actually, I wanted to do Bobby,

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but my wife worked with two people named Bobby who

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she fucking hated.

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Speaker 2: So was she a han sir han fan.

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Speaker 1: Courtney can't imagine she knows who that is.

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Speaker 2: She's like freemon man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't, can't.

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Speaker 2: But she's just a huge, like Bobby Kennedy hater.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I was. I get that.

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Speaker 2: I get the joke now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, well, okay, let's swap

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to middle name nicknames. So his names middle name is Edward.

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Let's call him Teddy. I love the name, call him Teddy.

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And she fucking just vetoed that ship over and over. Really, yeah,

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I gave her. So I told her. I've told this

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to every girl I've dated. Seriously, I was like, the

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first born boy is gonna be Rob four and we

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came to an agreement that she could pick the nickname.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think that's fair, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: But and not Rory's fine. Rory is a good name.

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But Teddy really taken advantage of her in her drug state.

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Speaker 2: But I just felt bad for her. You could have

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done what my dad did.

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Speaker 1: She didn't pass out, I mean she was delusional.

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Speaker 4: She was like, hang on, I'm missing parts of that story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so to catch you up.

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Speaker 1: Conceived and born while his mom was passed out.

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Speaker 2: But when my mom was passed out, they asked my

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dad my name and they had agreed upon on it

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we have news you mean Daniel Murphy. Yeah, it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: By the way they just give you when you have

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to look like a social Security card, like a college

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean, like confusing form or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it literally looks like just printed off a school

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printer to sign up for theater club or so, you

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like it is hilarious. I was like, this is where

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we write it, so it's very easy to do. Like

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if my wife was for the second kid, my wife

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I basically to take care of the baby the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Jesus, this is becoming an episode on Rob's Family.

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Speaker 1: Her whole, her whole stomach was pulsating like she was

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an alien like in the movie Alien, like someone like

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a fucking pop out. And so I could write whatever

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I wanted to. She had no she had no chance

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to fix it.

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Speaker 2: Teddy, I actually hated the nickname Teddy, preferred Theodore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so his name Theodore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he hated being called Teddy and in his older

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age he liked being called anything but Teddy.

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Speaker 4: Really surprising that he just I was wondering if you

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Speaker 1: Well, you know a lot of people on the Drinking

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Bro Show call me Bob. I do not like the

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nickname Bob. It doesn't piss me off, but I don't

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ever I would never ever introduce myself.

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Speaker 3: As Bob Robe.

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Speaker 1: Bob is my dad. Bob is an old man.

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Speaker 2: You have to earn that you're not a Bob.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Bob. I'm a rob. Look at me.

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Speaker 3: I think I always call you Bob. I'm sorry for that.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I don't seems like you care.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: But tell us how much you don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm not mad. I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I'm not mad.

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Speaker 1: Robbie as a kid, I want by Robbie.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, Teddy, I'm gonna keep calling me

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Teddy in this episode. I mean, you're dead. I don't

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want to dishonor you, but you are Teddy's Teddy. It's

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just an easier name to say. I'm not gonna say

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Theodore every time. It's cooler, Teddy is cooler.

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Speaker 1: Also, Teddy running up a hill blasting Spaniards. Theodore doesn't

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Speaker 2: So this entire episode is we're going to cover Teddy Roosevelt,

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the man. We're not really gonna get too much into

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the politics. A little bit, we will, we'll touch on

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you know, when he was police commissioner, when he anti banana.

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Bananas were an issue in New York. Do you know

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how he late eighteen hundreds. Let me finish, man, let

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me explain it, all right, stop jumping all over my shit.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Robbie j tuck banana. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: The trope of banana peels being slippery is a real thing,

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because in New York City there were constant banana peel

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injuries as people would just eat the banana and throw

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it onto the sidewalk the street. People used just litter,

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and people used to eat shit from the banana.

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Speaker 1: Didn't like an old man hemorrhage and die a couple.

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fucking eating the peel. And that's like the whole thing

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of like Mario Kart, you know, banana pete slipping on

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the manipeel, classic thing. That is a real thing. And

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But like people would step on discarded banana peels they

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didn't see, smoke, their head on the ground, on the

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concrete soil, can hemorrhage and die.

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Speaker 2: Teddy Roosevelt implemented fines for this. He's like, it's garbage.

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You can't be just throwing that on the streets.

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Speaker 4: So slapstick comedy. You started off as a cautionary.

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Speaker 3: Tale, yes, and Teddy made it a crime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Teddy made la.

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Speaker 3: Comedy.

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Speaker 2: He was an unliked police commissioner and we'll get to that.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, I can imagine.

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Speaker 2: But he grew up a very sickly child in New

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York with severe asthma, and he spent his entire life

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trying to will himself into a man's man who was

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Speaker 1: I think he the og Dan Regester. He conquered his

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asthma through sheer force of will, the way you conquered

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your butt asthma.

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Speaker 2: I see nothing butt crowns disease commercials now like during

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Speaker 1: Just but you cured it.

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Speaker 2: I did through sheer willpower, just like Teddy Resident.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, asthma's real thing. He does refuse to eat cheese, though.

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Speaker 2: I eat pizza. I just don't like cheese on anything else.

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Speaker 3: I don't need ches.

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Speaker 2: I find it unnecessary. I think a burger's perfectly found

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Speaker 4: That that is sacrilegious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in thesane take it's not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not here like riding for it. That's just a

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Speaker 1: It's a bad one.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the one that's like, oh, you fucking suck.

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If you eat cheese on a hamburger, that's you right now.

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Speaker 3: I take cheese off burgers. I leave cheese on everything else,

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but burgers. I like them better without cheese.

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Speaker 4: To me, that that seems like I'm not saying it's

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it's like nefarious or malicious or anything, but it seems

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Speaker 2: Do you put cheese on your steaks?

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Speaker 1: Well, no, you mean a completely different type of meat,

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the cheese overpower. And also, by the way, yeah, I

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will slap blue cheese on a steak, No questions asked.

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Speaker 2: Blue cheese, for sure. But you ever have like the

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Crenshaw stick at Matt's all branchows.

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Speaker 1: I have had a stick there before.

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Speaker 2: I don't they do put a cheese on top of it,

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which I don't like. Yeah, it's a ribb. I don't

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put cheese on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair that I can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't need two slices of American cheese on

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my fucking ribby.

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Speaker 4: You don't put a fucking lawn flamingo in front of

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the White House.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would, In fact, that's the first thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just show people you're a parent head.

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Speaker 1: Did he did he? Did he run as a Floridian

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Speaker 1: Okay, but he's a Floridian now. So if he wins

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flamingo on the no question to ask?

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Speaker 2: When the Civil War broke out, his household is incredibly

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while his mother was a total turncoat. She started secretly

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sending relief packages to her Confederate family.

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Speaker 1: Where's his mom problem?

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Speaker 2: From down South? Which she was just never comfortable with

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the being above the Mason Dixon line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole non slavery thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just never comfortable with free blacks. I mean,

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who is I mean, a black guy without chains is

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like Santa's sleigh without sleigh bells on it. I'd just

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like to hear the jingle slave bills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, slave sleive ah you're listening?

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Speaker 4: Is that where there comes from?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: So you know what's really funny, by the way, is

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that so Teddy Roosevelt's mom was that commercial, that Kamala

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Harris commercial that just dropped where it's like the woman

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her husband, the husband's like a maga guy and he's like, Hi,

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get rid, come on with a go vote, And then

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she gets to the booth and she feels out. Kamala Harris.

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Teddy Roosevelt's mom was the inverse or just like the

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reverse of that where the dad was like, hell yeah,

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union and she goes into the voting booth and she's

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Speaker 2: Teddy loved Physical activities despite his limitations, read books about

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nature and history, specifically about his favorite subject, the War

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of eighteen twelve, of course.

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Speaker 1: Which he I think ultimately wrote a very.

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Speaker 2: Good book on. He did. Teddy essentially was like, we

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could have handled business if we even had a remotely

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competent navy.

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Speaker 1: He was a big weirdly even though he was in

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the army and famous for the army.

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Speaker 2: Big navy guy, big big navy guy. And that's a

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big part of his presidency. Yeah, he gets us on

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par with the other world powers. He gets a it's

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called the Great White Fleet, and he has like sixteen destroyers.

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Speaker 1: Dude. Pre World War Two, I swear to God every

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before every war when we went into we were just like, oops,

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we need a military, Like every fucking war. I think

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general or colonel or something, and they were like, watch

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watch our exercises on the grounds, General, and he watches

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it and it's like these literally this is like the thirties,

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and it's these guys like fucking slapping shit on horses

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and hooking them up to cannons, and the horses are

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like pulling the cannons around. And I think his quote

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we're preparing for eighteen the War of eighteen twelve, while

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the rest of the world is preparing for a twenty

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twentieth century war.

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Speaker 4: And they were doing that in the fucking thirties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, in the after World War One, they were

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just like, hook these horses up to these cannons, let's

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go da da. Fucking every the start of every American

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war before or up even up to World War Two,

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it's just like, oops, we.

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Speaker 4: Need got tough grader.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: His father made a gym in their house so Teddy

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could work on his physical fitness and bully his asthma

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into submission. His mother home school him until he was eighteen,

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and he attended Harvard in the fall of eighteen seventy six.

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He was a bit of an outcast in college. He

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had insane sideburns, was pester and professors with questions NonStop

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door in class, and kept rocks and animal specimens in

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his dorm.

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Speaker 4: He actually the smell of his room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bit of a weirdo.

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Speaker 1: Did you have you seen the picture of him freshman year?

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Speaker 2: No, my fucking fuck, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a picture of him where he's fucking jat.

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Speaker 2: We have too much to get too.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's a good pick. You keep going on,

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just pulled up.

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Speaker 2: His father died in eighteen seventy eight, and he changed

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his major to history and government so he could follow

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in his senior's footsteps. He participated in wrestling and boxing

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and joined the Hasty Pudding Club.

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Speaker 1: This is freshman Teddy Roosevelt.

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Speaker 3: That's the picture I was thinking. Yeah, this is an

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eighteen year old that is pissed, doesn't give a fuck.

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Speaker 4: That's a sixty year old man that spent life in

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the forest.

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Speaker 2: He met his future wife in October of eighteen seventy nine,

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a Lease Hathaway. Lee initially thought he was a total

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psycho and weirdo and turned him down after several marriage proposals,

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but Teddy was persistent.

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Speaker 4: I mean that Harvard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was at Harvard. Okay, this is the story

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of like every grandparent or great grandparent or even like

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some of our parents. It's like, yeah, I didn't like

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your father at first, but he just kept but he

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kept asking. He just kept asking, kept showing up.

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Speaker 1: I mean most of his most of love and history

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is just not taking no for an answer.

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Speaker 3: That's changed now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it doesn't mean yeah yeah, I mean it's

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grandpa a little bit on the surface.

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Speaker 1: That's literally like the plot of like most love movies. Yeah,

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like rom coms.

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Speaker 3: Are all the way the nineties.

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Speaker 1: He just wouldn't take no for an answer.

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Speaker 4: In the notebook, Yeah, like pretty much every single one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she did go live a full life and

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fuck a bunch of other dudes.

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Speaker 1: She did, and then and then came back.

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Speaker 4: It's like pretty much the only modern romance. If you

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go back to like Casablanca and Gone with the Wind

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and stuff like that, it's all just guys are like, oh,

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you said no, nope, yeah, we're doing this.

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Speaker 1: Listen, damn.

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Speaker 4: Frankly, madam, I don't give a damn.

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Speaker 2: He eventually broke her down and they married on his

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birthday in eighteen eighty.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: During their honeymoon, Teddy took Alice to climb the Matterhorn

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in the Swiss Alps. What a fun, exciting honeymoon.

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Speaker 4: So dude, she.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't want to marry him, doesn't want to marry him,

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doesn't want to Marriam is finally like, oh my god, okay,

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and he's like, good bitch, let's climb this mountain.

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Speaker 3: I love this guy.

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Speaker 2: He went to Columbia Law after and wrote his first

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book while in school about his favorite subject, the Naval

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War of eighteen twelve. Like you mentioned earlier, he wrote,

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he writes a lot. Him and Churchill are both like prolific.

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Speaker 1: Authors, you know, have anything else to do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: They couldn't.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't do nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. In eighteen eighty four, both his wife and mother

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die on the same day in Valentine, on Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 4: Damn from what he put a very bullet.

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Speaker 2: So his wife dies right after childbirth, like two days

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after giving birth to their first kid, and then his

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mother had like some fever.

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Speaker 4: I mean she was age old.

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Speaker 1: She was like forty five.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say she's over the age of forty.

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Her hernes were numbered. But he put a pretty depressing

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mark in his journal on that day. It was just

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an X that said the light has gone out.

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Speaker 2: The light has gone out of my life. Damn next note.

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Speaker 4: Oh sorry, no.

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Speaker 1: Ill goes viral a lot, like everyone, Like every couple

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of months, people just be like wow Teddy Roosevelt on

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the day his wife and mom died.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one of the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just like gay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. One of the most disgraceful days of my life

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was when I thought it was a good idea to

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use that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start using that every Monday.

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Speaker 2: He left his baby daughter, who was born just two

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days earlier, in the care of his sister Bammi. While

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he grieved, he eventually gets custody of Alice when she's three.

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Alice was a was known to be a partier, a gambler,

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a smoker, and an all around rule breaker. Teddy once said,

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I can either run this country or attend to Alice,

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but I cannot possibly do both.

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Speaker 1: Bad bitch. That is probably someone else we need to

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do an apayon probably, Yeah, like she sounds rad.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that for the patreon Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

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he handled the death of his wife well, and by

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that I mean he left the city behind for the

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allure of the American West, became a cowboy.

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Speaker 1: Is this when he fucks off to Deadwood. Yeah, he

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becomes friends with Timothy Oliphant.

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Speaker 2: He operated a cattle ranch and Little Missourian Little Missouri.

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, I didn't know about that.

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Speaker 2: In the Dakotas. Yeah, for few years, learning to ride

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rope and hunt while living in North Dakota. Became deputy sheriff.

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Speaker 3: Oh shit.

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Speaker 2: One of the crimes that he took down while he

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was deputy sheriff was thiefs stole his boat that he'd

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been planning across uh, the Little Missouri River. So he

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wrangled two other ranch hands. They built a brand new

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boat in three days, and they chased after him. Imagine

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stealing someone's boat and then like three or four days later,

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you're like, who the fuck is that?

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Speaker 1: There's just a new boat coming down.

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Speaker 3: It's better than the one you stole, Like you steal.

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Speaker 1: Someone's car, and then three days later you see some

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junker speeding after you because he just went to a

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salvage yard put a fucking engine in anything he could find.

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Speaker 4: And not like a like a new car after it's

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something that somebody else fucking threw together from scrap.

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Speaker 2: He tracks them down, the three thieves arrest them that

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gunpoint and hauls them the jail three hundred miles from

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the original spot of the theft, watches him for forty

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straight hours while he read Tolstoy. God, he's just sitting

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there all cracked out, just reading Tolstoy, like laughing to himself.

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Speaker 1: Do you sometimes get the impression that Teddy Roosevelt is

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fucking rad as fuck to read about, but would be

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horrible to be around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's insane. He's a lunatic dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Every time that in recently, every time that I've I've

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read anything about Roosevelt, the person that I picture is

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Shrek McPhee, John Shrek McPhee. He was a Green Beret.

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I think Delta Force just insane, over the top, badass.

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Every interview I see with that guy, it's like, holy shit,

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you would be a nightmare to be around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just like what you just be normal dude,

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and you know what, it takes great men to do

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great things and stuff like that. But it's like those

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people you can't can't have a beer with them, you

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know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Bring it back around to what Delga was saying, It's like, uh,

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David Goggins, Gary, do you really want to hang out

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with those kind of people.

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Speaker 2: It would be fucking Do you want to hang out

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with Michael Jordan?

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Speaker 3: No? God, no, I think I would shack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Shaq doesn't have that fire within Yeah, he doesn't.

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If he.

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Speaker 1: If Shaq had that fire, he'd have ten championships, he'd.

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Speaker 2: Be the greatest of all times.

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Speaker 1: Like, without even question, he would be a murderer.

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Speaker 2: But he was super lazy and he still was like

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a top ten player of all time. But if he

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actually had the drive and motivation to be great, he

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would be the best player ever.

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Speaker 1: Without it would I don't even know that there would

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be a close second. I don't think so, Like really,

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it's fucking crazy. And I respect him so much for

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that he was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why you can have a beer with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just like you know, ah, I'm good. Yeah, ah.

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Four championships.

472
00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: Jam Whatever writes a couple of books about the wild West.

473
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After a drought and blizzards decimate his herd in eighteen

474
00:21:57,079 --> 00:22:00,119
eighty six, returns to New York. He runs in to

475
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an old childhood friend, Edith Kermit Carow. This becomes his wife.

476
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: All right. I liked that he was just LARPing. By

477
00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:11,400
the way, he was just like, well, my cattle died,

478
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,240
I'm go home. They have a daughter.

479
00:22:16,839 --> 00:22:18,319
Speaker 2: I should probably check in on her.

480
00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: Who's got custom her.

481
00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,039
Speaker 1: It's so fucking funny too. By the way, this one

482
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,160
thing where like I don't know that that diary entry

483
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,400
makes sense because he's like the light has gone out

484
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,279
of my life. My mother and my wife are dead.

485
00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:37,640
You have a baby.

486
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,799
Speaker 4: About the baby, now, I just have to clean up

487
00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:44,359
this mess.

488
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: Take care of the baby, dickhead, and I take care

489
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of it. You're rich as fuck, so just like have

490
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,880
anyone else wake up in the middle of the night

491
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to deal with it or feed it or whatever. You

492
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,480
can play with it a little bit, but you have

493
00:22:56,519 --> 00:22:58,599
to go. You have to go to North Dakota for

494
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,480
three years because your mom you gay lowered.

495
00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: Just two years, dude.

496
00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:06,519
Speaker 4: It's funny like there would have been five years if

497
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he lost a son.

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, of course, which he does eventually have, because

499
00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:12,599
that guy dies in D Day.

500
00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:15,039
Speaker 2: Yeah he died. Oh no, no, no, he does World War One,

501
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,519
I think no, Theodore second. Okay, then he has another kid,

502
00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:24,440
I believe of a heart attack. By the way. In

503
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:27,400
Day yeah, ship was beach.

504
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,039
Speaker 4: Was it Roosevelt's son that had like the really really

505
00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:35,000
bad eyesight. He was like barely even fit for combat.

506
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Speaker 2: His eight kids.

507
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Speaker 1: I don't know it was Teddy Junior or the third

508
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,319
or whatever it was, but he he was played by

509
00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:44,400
Henry Fonda in the Longest Day, and he's like, I'm

510
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,200
getting on that beach one way or other. My dad

511
00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:48,039
charged up San Juan Hill and he goes, but he

512
00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:49,440
does like have a heart attack like a day or

513
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two later.

514
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Speaker 4: I think, oh, Okay, maybe that's who I'm thinking of.

515
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,319
I remember hearing about at least one major badass who

516
00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:57,000
sent their son off to war and their son was

517
00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:59,319
definitely not fit for combat and just got fucked.

518
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: So Teddy, when he goes back to New York, he

519
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,559
was already involved in like local politics, runs for mayor,

520
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,680
loses eventually a couple days later, gets married to Edith.

521
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:16,079
He goes over to England, they get you know, they

522
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:19,319
have the ceremony, they have a good time, comes back,

523
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,480
gets property on Long Island, and he has five children

524
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:28,319
with Edith. He's appointed police commissioner in New York in

525
00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:31,839
eighteen ninety five and attempts to reform one of the

526
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,319
worlds and America's most corrupt police departments. It wasn't really

527
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,240
like the police department wasn't really a thing. It was

528
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:43,160
just kind of like a bullshit job because it's not

529
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,720
the way you think of the police now.

530
00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:49,039
Speaker 4: When he was police commissioner, Like what period was.

531
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,519
Speaker 2: At the eighteen nineties, so ninety five.

532
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,319
Speaker 1: I think it's basically a good thing to imagine. It's

533
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,279
just John c Riley and gangs New York.

534
00:24:57,799 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: That was in my mind. That's what I was thinking.

535
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,519
That's like firemen and gangs in New York, is what

536
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:03,000
I was thinking.

537
00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, cops like up to that point, gang gangs, New York.

538
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,200
Jousey Riley just like a guy who like walks around

539
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,720
the does anyone else?

540
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he took midnight rambles to make sure officers were

541
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,759
walking their beats. So he's an extreme micromanager.

542
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: Oh god.

543
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: He enforced an unpopular law that banned the sale of

544
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,279
alcohol and saloons on Sundays, and he kind of became

545
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,000
public enemy number one for that.

546
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:31,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

547
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: Don't they still do that here?

548
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

549
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,039
Speaker 3: Yes, can't balcohol on Sundays?

550
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:36,039
Speaker 1: Yes, No, you.

551
00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: Can't go to liquor, Yeah, liquor and you can't get

552
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,400
beer until after ten am because Jesus.

553
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,759
Speaker 1: Because of this, he gets free of state in the Union.

554
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,279
Jesus won't let you buy beer until after ten on

555
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:48,440
Sunday and no liquor.

556
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 4: Teddy says, so hey, freedom isn't free. There's a price

557
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,039
to pay for all that freedom. That means you can't

558
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,920
drink on Sundays.

559
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,279
Speaker 2: So they send to today. They send two letter bombs

560
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,640
to Teddy for bandon booze on Sundays.

561
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,799
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good bomb. In the eighteen nineties.

562
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: They don't work, though, they fell.

563
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean still, that's pretty analog.

564
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, how would you even do that. It's not that

565
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,480
he can remote detonated or something.

566
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: True.

567
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 4: Back in those days, you just don't open up the

568
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,279
packers that has a few sticking out.

569
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: Of it, says late this.

570
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: Roosevelt campaigned vigorously for Republican president candidate William McKinley in

571
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:30,000
eighteen ninety six. Roosevelt's loyalty paid off when he was

572
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,079
later appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy, a position he

573
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,119
long coveted. Knowing that a navy was essential for the

574
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,640
United States to become a world power, he began building

575
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,079
up the Navy, constructing new ships, adding modern equipment, enhancing

576
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,480
trading procedures. He seemed to know that the war with

577
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,519
Spain was imminent and we had to have a badass

578
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:54,799
navy to get ready. So he saw the writing.

579
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: On the wall.

580
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,319
Speaker 3: He fucking knew, dude.

581
00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: With the outbreak of the Spanish American War in eighteen

582
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:02,960
ninety eight, Roosevelt left his job as Assistant Secretary of

583
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,960
the Navy in order to lead a volunteer cavalry regiment

584
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,920
as lieutenant colonel in the Army. So he actually after

585
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,079
this wanted his family and friends to refer to him

586
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,319
as colonel the rest of his life.

587
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: Oh boy, call me colonel. It's what was your rank?

588
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: Coup?

589
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: Oh e one?

590
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: You're a lieutenant?

591
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 4: Uh oh no, that would be one.

592
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: Oh oh no, I was one.

593
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: Okay, Private, I uh tail into training, I got I

594
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,839
got medical discharge.

595
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so private, thank you?

596
00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

597
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:36,519
Speaker 1: Private for the rest of the episode.

598
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:39,559
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, he was calling me private from now on.

599
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I earned that rank.

600
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: Goddamn right.

601
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: The regiment, known as the Rough Riders, executed a daredevil

602
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,279
charge up San Juan and Kettle Hills in Cuba. Roosevelt

603
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:54,759
is hand as a hero, finally achieving the glory he

604
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,359
dreamed of as a boy. But apparently this like whole

605
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,680
charge of sam Juan, he just yolo bit like he

606
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,640
had no plan of attack. It's just like, let's go, boys.

607
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: Unsurprising, deeply unsurprised.

608
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: He ends up getting a lot of people killed, but

609
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,200
he gets a lot of people killed charging up Sam

610
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,839
Juan because he's just like, let's.

611
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: Go, and uh, the Spanish had I love that machine

612
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,880
gunses the top of San Juan Hills, specifically the same

613
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,079
machine guns they would go on to using World War One,

614
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,640
not the Spanish, but just in general, like these were

615
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,559
I think there were maxims, Like it was maxims. Yeah,

616
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:33,319
it wasn't gatling, it was a I think it was

617
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,240
a Maxim at the top of San Juan Hill.

618
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,559
Speaker 2: Well, for his bravery, he's awarded the Metal of Honor

619
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in two thousand and one.

620
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't get until oh one. Yeah, dude, all right,

621
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,400
that's a little bit postumus morning it is still.

622
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: Because if you read about it, you got credit for

623
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,240
saving people. Online.

624
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,759
Speaker 2: They take the hill up the first hill and they're like,

625
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:54,039
we're gonna take that hill. Now, He's just let's go boys,

626
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:54,720
and like, what.

627
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Buy, we're so tired.

628
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,799
Speaker 2: I mean, yet, let's way.

629
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:02,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have this in there, but

630
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:06,559
I'm pretty sure. While the rest of his unit, you know,

631
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,400
had their standard issue whatever blah blah blah army uniforms,

632
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720
including the other officers in the unit, he went to

633
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:22,480
Brooks Brothers and had his colonel's uniform specifically tailored by

634
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:23,359
Brooks Brothers.

635
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: Man, if you're gonna die, at least look good while you're.

636
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:29,559
Speaker 1: Doing I don't disagree with that. Let me see I

637
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,279
can find that one. But it was literally like he

638
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,960
was like, this won't do I look.

639
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: Granda Crowd's enthusiastically welcome to Roosevelt. Upon his return from Cuba.

640
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,279
Teddy's wartime reputation propelled him to the office of governor

641
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:50,599
of New York. At the nineteen hundred Republican Convention, Roosevelt

642
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,960
was nominated for the one position he didn't want, vice President.

643
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Under William McKinley.

644
00:29:58,319 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: Gotta start asking questions.

645
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: The New York Party bosses wanted Roosevelt out of the governorship,

646
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:08,079
but Mark Hannah could see the consequences beyond New York State.

647
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,880
Hannah exclaimed, don't any of you realize there's only one

648
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640
life between that madman and the presidency.

649
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,839
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, now hold on, I have to correct myself

650
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,200
real quick. This is actually pretty fucking sweet. He had

651
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,799
Brooks brothers do it for the whole unit.

652
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,759
Speaker 4: Oh no, fucking way, uniforms for the entire unit. Yeah, no,

653
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:30,319
wonder the rough Riders are remembered.

654
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually fucking sweet.

655
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:33,759
Speaker 4: That is pretty bad.

656
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: That changed, That changed a lot in my mind.

657
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, you look like I won't have hobos

658
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:40,640
charging up a hill.

659
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,079
Speaker 2: Hannah calls it though, only six months after McKinley's March

660
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:54,079
nineteen oh one inauguration, the president was assassinated by an anarchist.

661
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,279
Speaker 1: We need to do an episode on uh who says

662
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,839
before but man anarchists were on a run in the

663
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,640
late nineteenth early twentieth century. They assassinated a ton of

664
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,359
world leaders.

665
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, from what I just call it, everybody.

666
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: Started up a little bit of fight, like a bit

667
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,920
of a fight in the you know, between nineteen thirteen,

668
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,559
nineteen eighteen, something like that.

669
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No. They were like kind of anarchists,

670
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,640
but they like they killed other kings. They got McKinley

671
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,519
and they tried to kill a shit ton of other people.

672
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: Dude.

673
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: It's it's fucking wild to think about how much of

674
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,640
an effect that still has on literally everything in world

675
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,960
politics to this day. Yeah, we are still recovering from everything.

676
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,119
The anarchist Yeah, h is that like a gang or something.

677
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: No, it's like a political movement. And honestly, if you

678
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880
read what they believe, like because I've caught like newspaper

679
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,519
clippings of like anarchist movement or anarchist meeting taking plate,

680
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,799
which is by the way, an oxymoron, but anarchist meeting

681
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,079
taking place and whatever. Like you read what they say,

682
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,039
they just sound like antifa, like woke little idiots that

683
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,920
it's like the same thing. It's like the same fucking thing, the.

684
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:07,519
Speaker 2: Same idea that history doesn't repeat it rhymes. Yeah, yeah.

685
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,559
So Teddy becomes twenty sixth President of the United States,

686
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:15,480
taken office in September fourteenth, nineteen oh one, at the

687
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,200
age of forty two, becoming the youngest man to ever

688
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,319
be president.

689
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,359
Speaker 1: To this day, I believe, right, not the youngest elected,

690
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,759
which is JFK, just.

691
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,039
Speaker 2: The youngest to become Yeah. During his presidency, the noted

692
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:31,079
out door has been often escaped secret Service. He sailed

693
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:35,480
his presidentially out in the Potomac and regularly led hiking

694
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:39,200
expeditions in the Rock Creek Park, where he would scale

695
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960
cliffs and used twigs and stumps for target practice with

696
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,599
his revolver. And just a cool off, he wud skinny

697
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:46,519
dip in the Potomac.

698
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, why is it so popular for like old school

699
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:51,160
presidents to be naked all the time.

700
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: I think swimming naked was really really common until like

701
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,839
at some point shortly after that, like maybe in the

702
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:01,920
twenties or something like that, at least for men, you

703
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,279
know what I mean. Like, yeah, because even if you

704
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:06,519
watch like World War two ship or whatever, they like

705
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:08,400
jump in the ocean naked with like they're in the

706
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,680
Pacific in the moo in the show the Pacific. They'll

707
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,440
just go swim and naked. Nobody like leaves the s

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givvy thought or anything that.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I know where it was uncomfortable back then.

710
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Just like made a straw.

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00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: Oh it was all burlap.

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Speaker 1: Just let you fucking swing in the river, dude.

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Speaker 2: He goes to Smite And nineteen oh three with environmentalist

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00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,240
and naturalist John Muir, who was one of the earliest

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00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,799
advocates for the idea of the national parks. Roosevelt fell

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00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:36,160
in love with you seventy the outdoor has been. President

717
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,039
recalled walking up the Glacier Point as the grandest day

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00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:40,920
of his life, not the birth of his children.

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Speaker 4: He clearly didn't really gives.

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00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Much of a fuck about the first one being born,

721
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,079
since he was like, oh boy, it's a tough day,

722
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:51,480
I gotta go to North Dakota.

723
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: Two years and then this three day camping trip inspired

724
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:58,119
Roosevelt to create the US Forest Service and provide federal

725
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,039
protection to approximately two hundred and thirty million acres of

726
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:05,480
American land, which, you know, we kind of rag on

727
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,199
the government government programs, but it's one of the better ones.

728
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,199
National parks.

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00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,679
Speaker 1: No communist bullshit. The markets would have figured it out.

730
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,079
Speaker 2: Now, the national parks are awesome.

731
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,639
Speaker 1: No communist bullshit, mar So the markets would have created

732
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:19,360
national parks.

733
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 4: National parks to a certain degree. I do agree with

734
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,159
the Bureau of Land Management in general. Not a big

735
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,159
fan of had any My family had a lot of

736
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,239
issues with them growing up, so not a fan.

737
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: Wait, could we back it up a bit. Did you

738
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,800
say presidential boat hit a boat?

739
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,079
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,159
Speaker 3: Well, do they still have the it's like an Air

741
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:39,760
Force one.

742
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,639
Speaker 2: But no, it's just his personal boat.

743
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: Oh I thought there was like an air Force one

744
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,320
version of boats too, So was it? Where are the

745
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,760
presidents using those?

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00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:54,199
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was something. But the first president to

747
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,039
visit Europe while president was Woodrow Wilson, so they weren't

748
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:05,360
really going anywhere way, Yeah, Woodrow Wilson as president. Yeah,

749
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,599
other presidents had been there, of course, but he was

750
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:12,079
the first one as president to go to Europe.

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00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: And obviously like none of them went to fucking China

753
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:20,679
or anything. I mean, it was you know, Andrew Johnson

754
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,400
is not getting on a boat to go to fucking

755
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Vietnam or Yeah.

756
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Resevelt was actually the first president though to go abroad

757
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:32,239
as president when he went he goes to Panama and

758
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,440
that was Yeah, it was Dran's presidency, the first president

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00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320
to leave the country. That is.

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Speaker 4: That is so fucking weird.

761
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: It is weird. But why is it weird?

762
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,599
Speaker 4: Well, because it seems like it's the leader of one

763
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,320
of the biggest powers. Well they weren't a huge power

764
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,280
back then, but even as a leader of a country,

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00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,800
it seems like it would be natural to go to

766
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,880
other countries for.

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00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I don't know, but like I

768
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,880
guess anyone prior to Grant was probably like, oh, I mean,

769
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,639
America was nothing prior to certainly the Civil War, yeah,

770
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:12,239
I would imagine, and then like between Lincoln and Roosevelt

771
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920
probably is when we even started to get remotely like

772
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:18,800
oh there might be somebody, and then yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: We Yeah, I guess it really wasn't until World War

774
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:24,119
Two that America became the heavy hitter that it is.

775
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

776
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 4: Now, but it's just weird to think American presidents not

777
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:31,159
visiting other countries, those relations.

778
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: Some conference, but we weren't even in any major wars either,

779
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:36,159
like we were in wars, but like we weren't involved

780
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:40,000
in the Napoleonic Wars at all. When we were negotiating

781
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,840
like eighteen twelve and shit like that, obviously, you know,

782
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,840
our presidents weren't going to Ghent. It was ambassador's representatives

783
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,079
and shit like that. And then between eighteen twelve and

784
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:55,440
and the Spanish American War, we didn't fight anyone in

785
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,280
Europe or have any reason to really go to Europe.

786
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,119
I would think as a president, people.

787
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,199
Speaker 2: In life is better than he basically turns the White

788
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,800
House into a zoo. President Roosevelt had a bear named

789
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,199
Jonathan Edwards, a hyena, badger, one legged rooster.

790
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 4: Wasn't John Edwards a psychic medium?

791
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,599
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a previous incarnation.

792
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: A blue parrot named Eli Yale, lizards, pig snakes, cats, horses,

793
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:27,719
guinea pigs. They were all named Admiral Dewey, Doctor Johnson,

794
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,599
Bishop Doane, Fighting, Bob Evans, and Father O'Grady. Those are

795
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,559
his guinea pigs.

796
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:35,679
Speaker 4: I have a feeling none of those, none of those

797
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,920
animals are in those titles.

798
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: And then Teddy is said to have wrestled his pet

799
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,719
bear as a form of recreation.

800
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,599
Speaker 3: Sure, there's a bear at the White House, just chillin's.

801
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,159
Speaker 2: And show that he was the man. Fucker who's the

802
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:49,719
man of the house. So you gotta wrestle the bear?

803
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,119
Speaker 1: Fuck the bear. There's a hyena even Yeah they are

804
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,519
dud mean bastard.

805
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be way more worried about the hyenath

806
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,639
than the bear.

807
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: They attacked when you turn around, Yeah, the hyenas psychos.

808
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: He also goes bear hunting in nineteen oh two with

809
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,599
the Governor of Mississippi. While bear they fail they fail

810
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:12,159
to find a bear, so not one of the president

811
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,800
to leave empty handed. The gud ties a bear to

812
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,719
a tree, and Roosevelt declines to shoot the bear. Believe

813
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,079
in it's on sporting. You now it's not good sport.

814
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll simply club it with a hammer.

815
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Speaker 4: I'll impregnate it, and i'll the l I'll buy it

816
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,000
a suit.

817
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 3: First, then shoot.

818
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:34,639
Speaker 2: The incident was made into a political cartoon in the

819
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,639
Washington Post, which inspired a toy maker to make a

820
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,840
small stuffed bear as a child's toy, which is now

821
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,559
called a Teddy Teddy Bear.

822
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that named for Teddy Roosevelt.

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Speaker 2: Real quick.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen oh four, there were eighteen football related deaths

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with one hundred and fifty nine serious injuries.

877
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Speaker 1: This is where he gets cooked.

878
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Speaker 2: In order for the sport to survive, he believed modern

879
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rules needed to be put in place. He invited the

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head coaches of the top collegiate football teams to the

881
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White House on several occasion occasions strongly urging them to

882
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reconsider the rules of the game. He wrote at the

883
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time that the goal was not to emasculate the game,

884
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,400
but simply make it lethal. By nineteen oh six, radical

885
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,119
rule changes to the game of football were implemented and

886
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:10,519
the forward pass was invented. Teddy Roosevelt created the forward pass.

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00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: There is what, Yeah, he was like, do something different?

888
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,079
Speaker 3: Is he the greatest dude ever? Is it going to

889
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,079
go south at some point that's gonna happen, right, it

890
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:21,679
goes bad? Or is he just the best?

891
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Sex scandals are next?

892
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

893
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:26,679
Speaker 3: Women we legs, you know.

894
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,159
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a dickhead for just leaving his daughter

895
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,800
for two years because he was depressed.

896
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,639
Speaker 3: Yea, But he invented the forward throwing pass because he

897
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,079
left her.

898
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm I'm hung up on that. I'm not

899
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,000
a sports guy. I have no idea. What the fuck

900
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,480
a forward passes.

901
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,079
Speaker 3: Throwing the ball in football?

902
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't in footnot was death? Rugby?

903
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: Oh ship? Why do we change it? That sounds sounds fun?

904
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,079
Speaker 1: Right?

905
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

906
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,679
Speaker 1: They were my favorite.

907
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: Soo many people are dying every year.

908
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: Throwing is how fathers and sons are now are good

909
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,239
family members? Like have a connection?

910
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: Do that with a baseball? Really?

911
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that a base but throwing a

912
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,599
football out of tailgate, there's nothing better at the beach.

913
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:10,840
You and the boys just showing it off, trying to

914
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,320
impress the ladies. They're not looking, they're not paying attention,

915
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,440
but I mean, and they're not impressed.

916
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,039
Speaker 3: When they see it, but but they'll pretend they are.

917
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,519
Speaker 2: That's one handed catch, Like, wow, how tight that spiral is?

918
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,559
Speaker 4: So you couldn't play catch on the beach with a

919
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:24,519
football before Teddy Roosevelt would be weird.

920
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:26,679
Speaker 1: What are you doing? You wouldn't know to Yeah, beat

921
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,760
him to death, freeze you just beat your son to

922
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,079
death on.

923
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 4: Before? Yeah, four frisbees. There was in fantas side yes.

924
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: In November nineteen oh six, Roosevelt made presidential history become

925
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,320
the first chief executive to leave the United States. He

926
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,719
sailed to board the USS Louisiana to personally inspect the

927
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,760
construction of the Panama Canal to force one, dude, did.

928
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: He build that himself too? Yeah?

929
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely got a shovel and he's like, no,

930
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:55,119
you do it like this?

931
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:57,599
Speaker 1: He probably did. Yeah.

932
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: He's also the first US president to fly in when

933
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,440
he rode on the right Model B piloted by arch

934
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,280
Hoxie in nineteen ten.

935
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Speaker 3: No shit, he's lived a great life so far.

936
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,039
Speaker 1: Look at this guy.

937
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: He would also regularly invite professional boxers to the White House,

938
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:20,639
including them including heavyweight champion Jack Johnson. Yeah, because he thought,

939
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,599
for some reason, the man that controls the country, that

940
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,719
runs this nation needs to fight the heavyweight champion in

941
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,000
the world.

942
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

943
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of his life is

944
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,280
clearly like him just feeling deeply inadequate for being a

945
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,039
sick child.

946
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely like that.

947
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,119
Speaker 1: The fire that burns inside of him is because he

948
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:43,400
had a cough when he was eight.

949
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: He doesn't remember that, though, you know, there's worse reasons.

950
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,199
Speaker 4: It was all internalized.

951
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: Here's just a bunch of other kids are like, Teddy's

952
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,760
not as strong as us. He was just like, I'm

953
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,559
gonna build a bigger fucking navy.

954
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna control world trade with the canal.

955
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,199
Speaker 1: He's like every ever and I just take every child

956
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,199
that teased Teddy Roosevelt across the ocean. There was a

957
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,920
Spaniard mark for death. Like every time a kid was

958
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:14,480
just like.

959
00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:19,079
Speaker 4: Throw like his entire childhood, just keeping track of what

960
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,440
ethnicity each child was. He was war War War.

961
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:25,559
Speaker 1: I just like to think every time a little Spanish

962
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,199
soldier like popped out of a trench, like a childhood

963
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:33,679
bully's face just materialized on face.

964
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: It's like Bobby Bouchet.

965
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,639
Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, literally, it's the water boy and just bam,

966
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,840
his brains explode out of the back of his head

967
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,599
because some kid was like, you can't shoot marbles with us,

968
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,199
you fucking retarded long boy.

969
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: So he fights Jack Johnson and fights a bunch of boxers,

970
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,320
but he would also fight some of his staff, some

971
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,760
guys in the army. Did he win, sometimes sometimes.

972
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: He lost, didn't beat Jack Johnson.

973
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: I think Jack Johnson kind.

974
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,599
Speaker 4: Of fucked I think one of his boxing matches detached

975
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,039
one of his retinans.

976
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:11,599
Speaker 2: This is Colonel Colonel Dan Tyler Moore, smashes a blood

977
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:18,280
vessel and leaves him blind in his left eye. Yeah,

978
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:20,039
the rest of his life. That's why he's got the

979
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:21,440
monkey out of the left eye.

980
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:24,119
Speaker 1: That's really fucking funny because.

981
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: This colonel just fucks him up in his sparn session

982
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:30,840
that nowadays, and afterwards he's just like, you can't tell anyone,

983
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,159
like nobody can find out about somebody.

984
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,079
Speaker 1: Both Roosevelt presidents hid a disability.

985
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,119
Speaker 4: Holy ship.

986
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:45,119
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then obviously it's being a disabilities eleanor

987
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,639
hid lesbianism, and it just keeps going.

988
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: Yet another disability.

989
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but that is really funny that I care

990
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,599
to you too. He was just like, goes blind and

991
00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:01,639
he's just like look, blow man, he loved it. Yeah,

992
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,639
will thrown good sir. Yeah, blinding and eye. That's a punch.

993
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:08,840
Everyone else would be like, oh my god, it'd be

994
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,960
like that fucking Dodger fan who blew his hand off,

995
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:17,559
just like he's just like ah.

996
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: While running for president after creating the Bull Moose Party,

997
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Teddy was shot by a would be assassin in nineteen

998
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:28,480
twelve while campaigning for president. He stood back up said, friends,

999
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,679
I shall ask you to be as to be as

1000
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,920
quiet as possible. I don't know whether you fully understand

1001
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,719
that I have just been shot. Then he continued to

1002
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,079
give a speech which lasted over an hour and was

1003
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:44,480
taken him to the hospital afterwards, where it was revealed

1004
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,800
the bullet was lodged between his ribs, where it would

1005
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,960
remain the rest of his life, but didn't fully penetrate

1006
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,199
any of his organs because of his speech, was inside

1007
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:54,360
his pocket and it was so thick because it was

1008
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,599
an hour long, that it saved his life.

1009
00:47:58,679 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have killed him anyway.

1010
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 4: Guy for being long wounded.

1011
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,559
Speaker 2: But you know how they were kind of giving Trump

1012
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,599
props for like standing up and saying fight, fight, fight.

1013
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:08,440
Imagine getting shot in the chest and then just going

1014
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,599
all right, I got an hour speech.

1015
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:13,079
Speaker 3: Still keep it down there with me here.

1016
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: I can't project as much anymore, just.

1017
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: Coughing up blood.

1018
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,199
Speaker 4: And I think during that speech was when he also said,

1019
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,920
but it takes more than that to kill a bull moose. Yep,

1020
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,320
that was an origination of the wasn't at the bull

1021
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,880
Moose party or Bulman's party?

1022
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a badass he was.

1023
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,599
Speaker 2: Obviously he splits the votes with Taft. That's how Wilson

1024
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:35,440
gets in the office.

1025
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: Really, he ross Perode Taft he did, who, by the way,

1026
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,239
was his choice to get in hand picked successor. So

1027
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Teddy Roosevelt served seven years I think as president, and

1028
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,960
but he'd only been elected to one term, so he

1029
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,800
could have run again. Actually there's not even a limit

1030
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,199
right at this point, there's no constitutional limit, so he

1031
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:58,000
could just run, run and run or run run. But

1032
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,360
Teddy Roosevelt was like, no, Washington only served eight I

1033
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,159
won't serve longer than him because being elected again and

1034
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,840
he would have won because Taft one would have put

1035
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,679
him beyond Washington's number of years. And he was like, no, Like,

1036
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,079
the best thing an American president can do is give

1037
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:21,079
up power. Like it's the noblest thing an American president

1038
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,360
can do, is give up power.

1039
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 4: And honestly, I have a huge amount of respect for that,

1040
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,320
because that's like the Roman dictator that gets brought up

1041
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,320
a lot since I Honust where he was like the

1042
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,440
only dictator. Where as soon as he was done with

1043
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,480
his absolute power, He's like.

1044
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,119
Speaker 1: No, what I needed to do?

1045
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he did that, but that's why I like Coolidge.

1046
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,400
Colige is like, now I don't need to run for reelection.

1047
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,039
I'm good, dude, Fuck that ship.

1048
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: Because Coolidge had two terms. Fucking Tyler is the man.

1049
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,119
Speaker 2: Well, Coolidge had two terms because a president died.

1050
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: I know. But oh wait wait he uh.

1051
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: He got he get elected? No, he got. He was

1052
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,440
the VP for Harden.

1053
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, fair enough. So he was the same thing

1054
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:01,800
as Roosevelt.

1055
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, because Harden dies like twenty days into

1056
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:06,360
his because he catches a cold.

1057
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: Right, there's the one that died from the guy who

1058
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:11,440
died forty eight days is it was in eighteen hundreds.

1059
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,800
I forget it.

1060
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: Well Harden dies is that's the one.

1061
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 3: They put a bunch of leaches on.

1062
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,039
Speaker 2: Harden dies pretty early. Yeah, he does. You're right.

1063
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:17,159
Speaker 4: I think they did that too.

1064
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: It was like dying of pneumonia and they're like, put

1065
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,159
leeches on him and then he died.

1066
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 4: I think he did that to Lincoln. They did that

1067
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,800
to a lot of people, But.

1068
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,079
Speaker 1: The dude who won the Mexican War, I think it

1069
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:31,599
was Tyler. I think uh. Anyway, he only served one

1070
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,800
term because he accomplished everything he said he would accomplish

1071
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,760
in that one term that was Polk Polk.

1072
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: Sorry, Polk, it's supposed to be your boy. You ride

1073
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:39,880
for Polk all the time.

1074
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,519
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm out of it today, Pol James

1075
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:46,199
k Polk. One term was like I did everything I said,

1076
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,480
including doubling the size of this country.

1077
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: Now, Harden was in a little longer than I thought.

1078
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,159
Two years. Okay, well kind of like two ish years,

1079
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,159
so Coolich had six.

1080
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, still chill, but yeah, he gave up power, and

1081
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:00,480
he was like, I I should give up power because

1082
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,159
that's a good. That's the best thing a president can

1083
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,880
do is not try to retain power as long as

1084
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,400
possible or at all. And then but then obviously he

1085
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,760
was later like du test sucks, I'm fucking gold back.

1086
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,159
Speaker 2: After his presidency and after his failed attempt at re election,

1087
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:21,000
he's accompanied by his son Kermit and famed explorer Colonel

1088
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,559
Candido Rondon. They set off to a journey in South

1089
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:31,599
America on a river called the River of Doubt. They

1090
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:36,079
lost five of seven canoes. They were in close vicinity

1091
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:37,639
to cannibalistic tribes.

1092
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,159
Speaker 1: At first, I thought, you're gonna say five of seven

1093
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,880
native guides, like just like the Indians there with just

1094
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:44,760
kept fucking dying.

1095
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: Well, you only five out of seven, that's not bad.

1096
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,679
Speaker 2: Canoes like full canoes. One sailor died in the rapids.

1097
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,599
Another was murdered by a crew member gone mad. Roosevelt

1098
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,840
cuts his leg really bad trying to cross the river

1099
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,960
in order to free two jam Condess. His injury leads

1100
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,280
to an infection, which leads to a fever. He's near

1101
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,800
death and he pleads with his son to leave him behind,

1102
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,920
but Kermit refuses, and in the end they eventually make it.

1103
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,760
But uh, like he's a fucking he looks like he's

1104
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:19,559
dead coming out of the Amazon. He loses like eighty

1105
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:20,119
pounds here.

1106
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,079
Speaker 1: The only reason he goes into the Amazon is because

1107
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:26,320
he's just like this man is just like I'm do

1108
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,760
people know I'm tough still, Like that's half of life.

1109
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,280
It's like I'm tough, very tough.

1110
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,039
Speaker 4: Exact same reason that he went to wars. So you

1111
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:34,559
know what, I'm.

1112
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: Strong, Yeah, I'm very strong.

1113
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And with the outbreak of World War One, the

1114
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:43,800
fifty eight year old ex president was eager to return

1115
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:49,880
to the front lines. Roosevelt Vemniley lobbied President Woodrow Wilson

1116
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,519
to send him to France as the head of a

1117
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:57,480
two hundred thousand man expeditionary force around the country supporters

1118
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,639
of the Hero of the San Juan Hill stage rallies

1119
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:03,599
of support. But Roosevelt would not get the call to

1120
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,960
fight because he's fucking fifty eight.

1121
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Well, he wouldn't let in the general I guess right.

1122
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:12,719
He wants to lead the AF the American Expeditionary Force,

1123
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,239
so he doesn't want to be like necessarily he probably

1124
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,760
would he would. I mean, like even in the jungle,

1125
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,880
I liked it. He's just like, son, leave me behind.

1126
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:26,239
I'm so badass. Leave I'm so fucking badass. But and

1127
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,239
then he goes to the guy he campaigned.

1128
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 4: Everybody I was tough when I died, tell him that

1129
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,559
was so fucking cool.

1130
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,599
Speaker 1: I like really, like he's awesome, but also fuck fuck

1131
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:36,239
this guy, Like you don't want to be around this guy?

1132
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,119
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I see what you're getting at though.

1133
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:41,840
Where So, regardless of the fact of where he was

1134
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,840
coming from for his toughness, there was still a place

1135
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,000
that he was coming from with that trying to try

1136
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:47,559
and to prove himself. Oh yeah, it would be a

1137
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:48,960
fucking nightmare to be around.

1138
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get in like a little argument with him,

1139
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:53,880
like you beat him in whatever that nineteenth century equivalent

1140
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,079
of beer pong is, and he's just like, what one

1141
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:57,320
more fight me? Fucked me?

1142
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 4: Okay, tomorrow morning, five am.

1143
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: Then we boxed.

1144
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, I'm not waking up at five way, Like,

1145
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,039
all right, call me.

1146
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: I don't fuck exactly, That's exactly all I'm picturing him.

1147
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,440
Too respectable, but Jesus Christ would be a fucking nightmare.

1148
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And by the way, ironically, real quick, the

1149
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,800
person who does end up leading the American Expeditionary Force

1150
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:22,239
was served with him in uh, the Spanish American War,

1151
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:29,199
served near him. Uh General Blackjack Pershing sick name name, Yeah,

1152
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,519
well this was his nickname is Blackjack. But John John

1153
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:34,239
Pershing I think, isn't it. But yeah, he served. I

1154
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,159
don't think he was in the rough Riders, but he

1155
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,039
like served alongside Teddy Roselt in.

1156
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,639
Speaker 4: The Spanish Marion War rough rider adjacent.

1157
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:45,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, as you said earlier, his son Quentin is

1158
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,039
killed in action in World War One when it's plenty

1159
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:51,039
shot down over France in nineteen eighteen, so not World

1160
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:52,079
War two, World War one.

1161
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,079
Speaker 1: Okay, he does have a son who dies in.

1162
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 4: World War two though, Yeah, that's what I thought too.

1163
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he absolutely does.

1164
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: Okay, well so bad.

1165
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: Well get kids that dying war too.

1166
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:05,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, every every war, Teddy, and he's not upset about it.

1167
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:07,639
The fund up was the one that died in Desert storm.

1168
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:13,079
I mean he was ninety, wouldn't Yeah, it's like.

1169
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: One of them. I topic asthmatic.

1170
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

1171
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: Actually he was like hiding it all.

1172
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,559
Speaker 4: Dude went in with the name Kermit.

1173
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, doomed. Uh and this is a very fun fact,

1174
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:31,480
a day that'll live in infamy. He dies the next year,

1175
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in nineteen nineteen, on January sixth. He died on j six.

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Fuck damn, the worst thing that ever happened on j six.

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Speaker 4: Now I've got two reasons to celebrate January sixth, celebrating

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00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,000
his life, not his death.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're storming the capitol for Teddy.

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Speaker 1: I would do that, but we were the rough riders.

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Speaker 3: We're just going to rough riders storm the Capitol on horses,

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00:55:59,159 --> 00:55:59,760
on horses.

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Speaker 2: It's like, this has nothing to do with this selection now, Yeah,

1184
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,239
it's not political. Okay.

1185
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,159
Speaker 1: So his son, Theodore Roosevelt Junior was a brigadier general.

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00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,679
He was fifty six. He was the oldest person to

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storm the beaches of Normandy at fifty six.

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Speaker 4: Was he the one with the eye issues?

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Speaker 1: Potentially he did exactly what Teddy wanted hew World War One.

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He hit the beaches with a handgun and a cane.

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00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:23,880
He couldn't walk.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I don't think that they're trying to be tough.

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00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:28,079
Speaker 1: I think they just are.

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00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, let him at fifty six, are you still trying

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00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:32,679
to prove you're tough?

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: He directed his his his guys under serious enemy fire. Uh,

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00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,440
and he died at the month. He died on July

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00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,840
twelfth from a heart attack. So right right in the

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00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,880
heat of the of the Hedgerow fighting, he fucking died

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00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,320
heart attack. Dude.

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00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 4: I mean honestly, even if even if every single person

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00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,559
whose family was trying to prove a point, they proved

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00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:55,360
a fucking point.

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00:56:55,639 --> 00:56:58,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's trying to prove anything.

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00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:02,400
Once you're like over forty five, especially that time, Like,

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00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,280
what are you trying to prove?

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:03,679
Speaker 1: At that point?

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00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: They already proved it.

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00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,639
Speaker 1: What's funny is Teddy it was just like I'm tough,

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00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:08,440
I'm not sick, and then his son was just like,

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00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,159
it's tough as my dad, I'm not sick, hobbling up

1212
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,559
fucking Omaha, Private Ryan with a cane. Some guys just like.

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00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: But imagine if every time he pulled the trigger at

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,480
Nazi died, it.

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00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:24,079
Speaker 1: Was just like a heat seeking bullet.

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00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just that good.

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00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: He's like, but you have to imagine that the German

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,360
that shoots him, it's just laughing the whole time, this

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00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,440
geezer you go back to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that or the reason that he survived the landing

1221
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:37,920
is because every time the machine gun came over to him,

1222
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,400
they're like, ah, just kind of skip over the top.

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00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: I would have just been like, guys, I got the

1224
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,400
funniest killed today.

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00:57:46,719 --> 00:57:48,599
Speaker 3: They're making bets on they to keep in life.

1226
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:52,079
Speaker 1: That's honestly. That guy. I would be like, I am

1227
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:55,239
so tired of shooting baby faced eighteen year olds like

1228
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,760
a fifty six year old with a cane, and like,

1229
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,599
get out of here.

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Speaker 4: There was another guy the storm the Beaches of Normandy

1231
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,039
name I think his name was mad Jack Churchill, the

1232
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:08,760
British guy. Yeah, he went with a fucking claymore and

1233
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,719
and some bagpipes and ship, there was.

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00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: Like a bow and arrow maybe or yeah, long bow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually I think he's the only person in

1236
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:17,280
World War Two to have a confirmed kill with the

1237
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,039
long bow. There was lots of insane people that fought

1238
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:20,679
in World War Two.

1239
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Speaker 2: Run for that German Well, when they can just be

1240
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,679
sent to the front lines. Yeah, you want those people

1241
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:29,719
on your side.

1242
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:31,119
Speaker 4: I mean ship Hell, yeah, me too.

1243
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: They don't have those people in this country anymorey.

1244
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:36,599
Speaker 4: Trying to tone them down.

1245
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: It used to be a proper country.

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00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:40,679
Speaker 2: I mean, if you ever see the World War two

1247
00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:43,239
documentaries where they're interviewing some of the geezers, a lot

1248
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:45,800
of them break down saying that they had like a

1249
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,760
really tough time getting over it. But there's a couple

1250
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,840
of people in there that are always like, yeah I

1251
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,440
shot him. Oh yeah, it was fun.

1252
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: I mean the amount of I spent a lot of

1253
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,760
time watching like World War two interviews of like World

1254
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,039
War two vesters and ship obviously on both sides sides,

1255
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,880
uh no, But it's it's insane to see the reactions

1256
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,880
of some of these people because even if you compare

1257
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,639
it to the reaction to modern day veterans. Yeah, the

1258
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:19,719
like the amount of pain that they're going through doesn't change,

1259
00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:21,920
but the reaction changes a lot. Where back in the

1260
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,639
day it seemed a whole lot more matter of fact,

1261
00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:26,559
where it's like, oh, yeah, and he died, And then

1262
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:28,679
if you hear the stories from nowadays, it's it's a

1263
00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:32,159
lot more nuanced and they're they're putting their feelings into it.

1264
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:34,440
Back then, it's like, I can't imagine those people having

1265
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:35,519
fucking emotions.

1266
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting to me because you married the

1267
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,000
fucking first woman you saw, that's your sweetie.

1268
00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: Everything is suppressing your zero your zero to one generation

1269
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:50,000
removed from people dying all the fucking time. Yeah, like

1270
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:51,880
you were born if you fought in World War Two,

1271
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:56,559
you were born either during or within five years of

1272
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:57,480
the flu pandemic.

1273
00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:01,079
Speaker 4: Dude the Spanish flute, Yeah, dude, fuck Like.

1274
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:04,199
Speaker 1: My so, my grandpa fought, I killed all the young's killed,

1275
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,000
kids killed a fuck ton of kids. Uh, Like, so

1276
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:10,000
my grandfaught. My mom's dad both fought in World War two,

1277
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
served in World War two. I should say my dad's

1278
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:15,360
dad was a doctor, but my mom's dad was just

1279
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,840
in it. Like in the second Armor Division in the

1280
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,199
Battle of the Bulls, a lieutenant commanding a Sherman tank

1281
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,840
and he was born in nineteen twelve.

1282
01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 4: God damn.

1283
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,199
Speaker 3: So like he's used to seeing people die.

1284
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,199
Speaker 1: It's he was seven. He was seven years old when

1285
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:33,519
the flu pandemic hit. You're you're a little more used

1286
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:37,039
to death in that at that time than anyone any

1287
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,519
millennial who fought in the Global War on Terror. You

1288
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:42,239
don't grow up with people dying.

1289
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: There's also there's no individualism. It's just like, this is

1290
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,079
what I do, this is my job. You kind of

1291
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:51,119
buying into that. That's the rest of your life. You

1292
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:54,079
work in a factory. You have one woman in your

1293
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:57,559
whole life, and that's it. You just accept it.

1294
01:00:57,679 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, good enough.

1295
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:05,199
Speaker 2: You're not overthinking things. You're not constantly at war with

1296
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,920
your own identity, identity and who you like, what you

1297
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,320
want to accomplish. There's there's no ego.

1298
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 4: At all, because there's there's too many outside struggles for

1299
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,079
you to to overcome that you can't focus on anything

1300
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:20,039
on the on the internal. And that's that's a really

1301
01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:22,760
good point that you brought up with the veterans of

1302
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,440
World War Two, growing up during the Spanish Flu and

1303
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:26,280
things like that.

1304
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: Or even just after I mean, like this is all

1305
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:31,679
anyone who grew up in the twenties. I think penicillin

1306
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,400
wasn't been in like the thirties or something like that.

1307
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,679
I mean, there's just no antibiotics as a child. Like

1308
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:40,199
it's fucking they're still there's basically actually, they're the last

1309
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:44,679
generation that dealt with that level of it was still

1310
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:45,679
less of a level than.

1311
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: Like nineteen twenty eight. Yeah, a year later the stock

1312
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:54,960
market crashes coincidence, but like they're the latter that actually

1313
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:56,880
the quarterbacks in the economy.

1314
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,119
Speaker 1: The quote unquote greatest generation is the last generation. And

1315
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,679
that the same way millennials were, like, we're the last

1316
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,280
generation without the like you know, devices and screens and

1317
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,639
stuff like that. Right, you know what I mean, We're

1318
01:02:08,639 --> 01:02:11,400
the last generation like a normal kid. They were the

1319
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:16,119
last generation that grew up like a normal kid without dying.

1320
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, friends are dying all the time.

1321
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. It is crazy to uh to look at the

1322
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,519
different reaction between veterans from different wars because of once

1323
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:27,480
from World War Two, Like I I didn't even think

1324
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,480
about the fact that you just brought up until now.

1325
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:33,679
They were raised around so much death that those extra

1326
01:02:33,719 --> 01:02:37,079
deaths as they went through. Its obviously traumatic, but also

1327
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:40,679
it's still kind of par for the course the lifestyles

1328
01:02:40,719 --> 01:02:42,079
that they grew up with.

1329
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I look it. Probably it's probably still

1330
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,840
haunting about what because even when people die, absolutely right,

1331
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,800
even when people die growing up, they're not ripped in

1332
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,519
half or you know what I mean or something shit

1333
01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:54,159
like that, but like that, you are still used to people,

1334
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,320
Like it's so much more common for people you know

1335
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,760
to die suddenly randomly, like right now, if we were like,

1336
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,039
oh my god, a fifty four year old man died,

1337
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:08,320
that's crazy. Yeah, that would never happen. That never happens.

1338
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:11,559
Like what you wake up and you're like, oh, four

1339
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:13,440
people died. The people I know died.

1340
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: Like back in those days, it's like like waking up like, oh,

1341
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,920
our sixteen year old neighbor just died. Yeah, and that's fine.

1342
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,039
But then seeing your sixteen year old neighbor blown to

1343
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,280
pieces by an artillery shell. That's the part that will

1344
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,800
they likes.

1345
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:26,599
Speaker 2: And I mean, to really bring it all together. Yeah,

1346
01:03:26,639 --> 01:03:28,960
you see a neighbor slipping on banana peel hit his

1347
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:34,760
head on, that's going to really change it. Right, It's

1348
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,880
so comedic, it's so funny at the time, but you're like,

1349
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,519
oh shit, no, he's bleeding out. Yeah, needs help.

1350
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: He's just like I like imagine that, like there's a

1351
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,320
banana you just see like, oh that's funny, there's a

1352
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,360
banana peal, and then like literally thirty seconds later, somebody's

1353
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,199
just like, you know, back off that point.

1354
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,599
Speaker 4: Back in the days, like nowadays, we can laugh about

1355
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:55,239
people slipping on a banana peel.

1356
01:03:55,239 --> 01:03:57,199
Speaker 1: Back in those days, that serious business.

1357
01:03:57,239 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 4: That was cancer.

1358
01:03:58,079 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: Those were the real landlines.

1359
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,079
Speaker 3: Have you stepped on a banana peel for real? It's

1360
01:04:02,119 --> 01:04:06,159
actually so slip. Yeah, it actually is like you can't

1361
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:09,559
stay standing something with the the one side of the

1362
01:04:09,639 --> 01:04:11,239
peel and all the inside part of the peel, it

1363
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:11,760
just goes.

1364
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: It's like ski we know how they sit on Mario Kart.

1365
01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:18,599
Speaker 3: I've slipped on a banana peel in real life. Yeah,

1366
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:20,199
I did on purpose. I wanted to see if you could.

1367
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,599
They're actually maybe that's.

1368
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: Our one YouTube video that will actually go viral. We

1369
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,800
do a banana peel challenge on a sidewalk. Let's do it.

1370
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:28,239
Speaker 2: We just start throw like that's our prank. We throw

1371
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,559
it into front of strangers.

1372
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to blindfold yourself and we all get

1373
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,480
to throw bananas in front of them, and then you.

1374
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,559
Speaker 2: Just if this is not gonna die, We'll be fine.

1375
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 4: We'll probably be mean.

1376
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,519
Speaker 2: It's fine anyway. That's our episode on Teddy Roosevelt today.

1377
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:47,920
Thanks for tuning in. I kind of blast boys you,

1378
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:52,599
oh Coop, thanks for tuning in, Thanks for coming. We

1379
01:04:52,679 --> 01:04:53,639
love you guys, we do.

1380
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: That's sweet.

1381
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,039
Speaker 1: And they'll be on the Patreon in a minute.

1382
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, So check out Patreon patreon dot com. Slash Softcore

1383
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:05,760
History two additional episodes every week Wednesday and Friday, and

1384
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,599
if you could, if you are brand new, you're gonna

1385
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:10,840
sign up for a Patreon you finally decide, you know

1386
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,599
you're gonna go for it. You're gonna get all that

1387
01:05:13,639 --> 01:05:16,719
extra content. Make sure to do it not on your phone.

1388
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:21,280
It's this new update with iOS. For some reason, Patreon's

1389
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,280
gonna give a percentage to Apple. If you sign up

1390
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,800
through the app on the phone, they.

1391
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: Take a lot of money from us. If you sign

1392
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,159
up on the phone, it makes no difference to you.

1393
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,159
Speaker 2: But if you could, you could sign up online just

1394
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:35,280
a regular browser or even on your phone. You can

1395
01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:38,480
sign up through the browser and still use the app,

1396
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,440
but just don't sign up on the app.

1397
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 4: Holy shit, man, Okay, yeah that's fucked up. That's that's

1398
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,360
a fair ask, though it doesn't take that much more time.

1399
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: To just just do it on the web browser.

1400
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,559
Speaker 4: Still consume the content through.

1401
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,679
Speaker 1: The phone, Yeah yes, yeah it doesn't yet. Yeah. I

1402
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:54,880
mean you can do it on your Safari, on iPhone

1403
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,559
or whatever the fuck, but it's just to do it

1404
01:05:56,559 --> 01:05:57,119
on your laptop.

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Speaker 2: Jake left, and we're still making the same amount of

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money or less now because Apple's fucking us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so fuck the big corporation. Siam up on your PC.

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Speaker 2: So I would appreciate that. Also would appreciate if you

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01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,679
left the review. We haven't gotten a review on Apple

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in a long time, so goddamn five stars. We'll read

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some next week if we get any entertaining ones. And uh,

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Spotify just gotta leave five stars. You want to do much,

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But we appreciate you, guys. We'd love you guys. Where

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the mouse the best way to get this out? Check

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out our YouTube subscribed to the YouTube software history and

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01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:35,079
yeah that's all I got for Joel. You coop rob

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bye damn and you just got soft served