Speaker 1: Let's pick it up with a friend of mine, A
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Kirk Gibson, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: players in Tiger's history and one of the guys who
Speaker 1: does a hell of a job as an analyst. I
Speaker 1: loved working with him and I love listening to him
Speaker 1: to this day. I don't know if there's anybody who
Speaker 1: prepares better than Kirk Gibson. He joins us here on
Speaker 1: Axis and Bros. Hi Gibby, good morning to you. I
Speaker 1: hope you and a family are great. What's your take
Speaker 1: so far on where the Tigers are at at four
Speaker 1: games under five hundred.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they've made some improvement. They've been estimated
Speaker 2: by injuries. They've had some good development come up through
Speaker 2: the systems, coming more coming from behind. I think they're
Speaker 2: kind of improving to the point where they're going to
Speaker 2: get ready to go for it. You know, they got
Speaker 2: the trade deadline here today. I absolutely would create Terry Spoogl.
Speaker 2: He's everything that you when you draft the kid, you
Speaker 2: put him through your system and you developed. He's a
Speaker 2: perfect example and he's got a personality with you and
Speaker 2: I both took for But we're looking for players, so
Speaker 2: I hope of that that he even being considered. However,
Speaker 2: you know, and other teams offer something that could be exciting,
Speaker 2: it could make sense, but I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1: You went through this as a player, you went through
Speaker 1: it as a as manager of the year two and
Speaker 1: it's such an in unison with Kevin Towers and other
Speaker 1: members of the front office where you worked. What's what's
Speaker 1: trade deadline like? As a player and as the guy
Speaker 1: who's trying to keep a team together like a J.
Speaker 1: Hinch is trying to do with his clubhouse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as the player, it can act as a downer,
Speaker 2: you can act as something exciting. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: look at all the trades that have been made in
Speaker 2: trade deadline over the years, it's it's pretty hard to
Speaker 2: have a great match. However, and it does influence the team.
Speaker 2: As a manager, you want to go. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: there's you got your manager's hat on, because really you're
Speaker 2: trying to keep your team going, keep them up, keep grinding,
Speaker 2: because in my book, you just never know. You can't
Speaker 2: listen to everybody say you don't have a chance. They
Speaker 2: told us that two thousand eleven. What was with Arizona?
Speaker 2: And if you can be your own expert. Believe in yourself.
Speaker 2: You know, I just would never give to the end.
Speaker 2: There's business decisions that have to be made if they
Speaker 2: do projections. You know, if you do keep Eric Scoobel,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to pay him in the in two
Speaker 2: years for sure. So that might influence Well, you can't
Speaker 2: and can't do today, so you can. It's uh going
Speaker 2: to give you a kind of a funny little thing
Speaker 2: right now. With social media, incredible the information that gets
Speaker 2: out gets out quickly. Over ten years ago, we were
Speaker 2: in that we were in the road and we were
Speaker 2: having conversations and we were finding that they were in
Speaker 2: the social media almost immediately. So we started looking at
Speaker 2: everybody in the room, who's area at the front office
Speaker 2: and the coach, some of the coaches and guys it.
Speaker 2: So we I said, well let's throw it like a
Speaker 2: dummy roomor out there. So we threw the dummy room
Speaker 2: out there and we told just a couple of guys
Speaker 2: we had an idea who it was, and uh, sure
Speaker 2: enough it came out it was falved And you know,
Speaker 2: who's the who's the who's the s who was squealing?
Speaker 1: Who's that.
Speaker 2: The owner? Who is the owner who was doing it,
Speaker 2: So we gotta for whatever reason, he had his own thought.
Speaker 2: These guys have their their buddies that they that they
Speaker 2: give a little information to. Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: We we said, yeah, you know, it shouldn't help it anything.
Speaker 2: Did not end up getting anything of that trade deadline
Speaker 2: the rest of history.
Speaker 1: Hey, would you would you trade what would you need
Speaker 1: for Jack Flarity if you traded him?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this is me, It's not my money.
Speaker 2: I'm not making those decisions. I wouldn't trade him outside
Speaker 2: you if I could. Uh, And they may very well
Speaker 2: have talked to him about that, because if you look
Speaker 2: at Clarity and scoobl As, you're wanted to starting pitcher,
Speaker 2: the resources look good. Is coming around? Uh, Fanning still
Speaker 2: in the fal leagues. You do have pretty solid start
Speaker 2: to starting staff. And I I like that way. You know,
Speaker 2: you got some players that looks like Caper Cole Keith,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he was in the minor leagues last year,
Speaker 2: had a great Offseaton signed a doctor. Patrick struggled early
Speaker 2: and how by he developed, you know, and they again,
Speaker 2: I think that the Tigers are doing a better job
Speaker 2: of developing their youth. Yeah, the minor leagues that they
Speaker 2: had in the past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give Ryan Garko a lot of credit. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Ryan Garkos did a nice job. Hey, last thing before
Speaker 1: I let you go, and I appreciate the time we
Speaker 1: were talking about the lines changing their culture. It's such
Speaker 1: a key buzz phrase in sports. You did that in Arizona.
Speaker 1: What's the most important thing in changing a culture for
Speaker 1: any franchise in any sport.
Speaker 2: That you got to get him to buy in? Uh from?
Speaker 2: But I saw last last year that the day that
Speaker 2: culture was changed was when Dan Campbell, all the men
Speaker 2: about the path, gave that speech about how he cared
Speaker 2: for him. You know, hey, I don't want to do it,
Speaker 2: but you got to do it. And he laid it out.
Speaker 2: He laid it out real clearly why I had to
Speaker 2: do it. And they, you know, they started to catch
Speaker 2: fire after after that speech, and I think it really
Speaker 2: resonated with him because they knew he cared about them.
Speaker 2: They believed in him, and he's done a great job
Speaker 2: and they they're gonna have of it this year, but
Speaker 2: they're up to it, excited.
Speaker 1: To patch you. That's great stuff. You change that culture
Speaker 1: in Arizona helped change here in Detroit as well. Great
Speaker 1: stuff as always, Mission, my friend, Keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: Love listening to you and and the broadcast. We'll talk soon,
Speaker 1: I hope. Okay, that was good.
Speaker 2: Get that gossiping going