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<v Speaker 1>Let's pick it up with a friend of mine, A

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<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine, Kirk Gibson, one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>players in Tiger's history and one of the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>does a hell of a job as an analyst. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved working with him and I love listening to him

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<v Speaker 1>to this day. I don't know if there's anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>prepares better than Kirk Gibson. He joins us here on

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<v Speaker 1>Axis and Bros. Hi Gibby, good morning to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you and a family are great. What's your take

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<v Speaker 1>so far on where the Tigers are at at four

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<v Speaker 1>games under five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think they've made some improvement. They've been estimated

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<v Speaker 2>by injuries. They've had some good development come up through

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<v Speaker 2>the systems, coming more coming from behind. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of improving to the point where they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get ready to go for it. You know, they got

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline here today. I absolutely would create Terry Spoogl.

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<v Speaker 2>He's everything that you when you draft the kid, you

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<v Speaker 2>put him through your system and you developed. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect example and he's got a personality with you and

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<v Speaker 2>I both took for But we're looking for players, so

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<v Speaker 2>I hope of that that he even being considered. However,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and other teams offer something that could be exciting,

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<v Speaker 2>it could make sense, but I don't see that happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You went through this as a player, you went through

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<v Speaker 1>it as a as manager of the year two and

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<v Speaker 1>it's such an in unison with Kevin Towers and other

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<v Speaker 1>members of the front office where you worked. What's what's

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline like? As a player and as the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's trying to keep a team together like a J.

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<v Speaker 1>Hinch is trying to do with his clubhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as the player, it can act as a downer,

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<v Speaker 2>you can act as something exciting. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at all the trades that have been made in

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline over the years, it's it's pretty hard to

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<v Speaker 2>have a great match. However, and it does influence the team.

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<v Speaker 2>As a manager, you want to go. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's you got your manager's hat on, because really you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to keep your team going, keep them up, keep grinding,

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<v Speaker 2>because in my book, you just never know. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>listen to everybody say you don't have a chance. They

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<v Speaker 2>told us that two thousand eleven. What was with Arizona?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can be your own expert. Believe in yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I just would never give to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>There's business decisions that have to be made if they

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<v Speaker 2>do projections. You know, if you do keep Eric Scoobel,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to pay him in the in two

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<v Speaker 2>years for sure. So that might influence Well, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>and can't do today, so you can. It's uh going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you a kind of a funny little thing

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<v Speaker 2>right now. With social media, incredible the information that gets

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<v Speaker 2>out gets out quickly. Over ten years ago, we were

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<v Speaker 2>in that we were in the road and we were

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<v Speaker 2>having conversations and we were finding that they were in

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<v Speaker 2>the social media almost immediately. So we started looking at

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the room, who's area at the front office

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<v Speaker 2>and the coach, some of the coaches and guys it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we I said, well let's throw it like a

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<v Speaker 2>dummy roomor out there. So we threw the dummy room

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<v Speaker 2>out there and we told just a couple of guys

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<v Speaker 2>we had an idea who it was, and uh, sure

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<v Speaker 2>enough it came out it was falved And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the who's the who's the s who was squealing?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that.

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<v Speaker 2>The owner? Who is the owner who was doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>So we gotta for whatever reason, he had his own thought.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys have their their buddies that they that they

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<v Speaker 2>give a little information to. Yeah, that was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 2>We we said, yeah, you know, it shouldn't help it anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Did not end up getting anything of that trade deadline

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of history.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, would you would you trade what would you need

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<v Speaker 1>for Jack Flarity if you traded him?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, this is me, It's not my money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not making those decisions. I wouldn't trade him outside

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<v Speaker 2>you if I could. Uh, And they may very well

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<v Speaker 2>have talked to him about that, because if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at Clarity and scoobl As, you're wanted to starting pitcher,

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<v Speaker 2>the resources look good. Is coming around? Uh, Fanning still

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<v Speaker 2>in the fal leagues. You do have pretty solid start

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<v Speaker 2>to starting staff. And I I like that way. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got some players that looks like Caper Cole Keith,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's he was in the minor leagues last year,

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<v Speaker 2>had a great Offseaton signed a doctor. Patrick struggled early

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<v Speaker 2>and how by he developed, you know, and they again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the Tigers are doing a better job

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<v Speaker 2>of developing their youth. Yeah, the minor leagues that they

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<v Speaker 2>had in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, give Ryan Garko a lot of credit. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Garkos did a nice job. Hey, last thing before

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<v Speaker 1>I let you go, and I appreciate the time we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the lines changing their culture. It's such

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<v Speaker 1>a key buzz phrase in sports. You did that in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the most important thing in changing a culture for

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<v Speaker 1>any franchise in any sport.

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<v Speaker 2>That you got to get him to buy in? Uh from?

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<v Speaker 2>But I saw last last year that the day that

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<v Speaker 2>culture was changed was when Dan Campbell, all the men

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<v Speaker 2>about the path, gave that speech about how he cared

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<v Speaker 2>for him. You know, hey, I don't want to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got to do it. And he laid it out.

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<v Speaker 2>He laid it out real clearly why I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And they, you know, they started to catch

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<v Speaker 2>fire after after that speech, and I think it really

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<v Speaker 2>resonated with him because they knew he cared about them.

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<v Speaker 2>They believed in him, and he's done a great job

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<v Speaker 2>and they they're gonna have of it this year, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're up to it, excited.

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<v Speaker 1>To patch you. That's great stuff. You change that culture

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona helped change here in Detroit as well. Great

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as always, Mission, my friend, Keep up the great work.

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<v Speaker 1>Love listening to you and and the broadcast. We'll talk soon,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope. Okay, that was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Get that gossiping going