Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, everybody. This is the Cult
Speaker 1: of Cryptids, and it is the Cult of Conspiracy and
Speaker 1: Strange were podcast collaboration and we're throwing it back to
Speaker 1: an episode where we were pretty liquor up. We did
Speaker 1: drink pretty heavily on the show for a long time.
Speaker 1: And this is a fun episode though that we covered
Speaker 1: about spring Heeled Jack. He is essentially the most handsy
Speaker 1: cryptid to ever exist. He mostly would pop out of
Speaker 1: the shadows and grope you if he didn't blow fire
Speaker 1: in your face first, and then he would jump over
Speaker 1: very tall objects and walls to escape, almost like he
Speaker 1: had springs in his shoes. This is a fun time, everybody.
Speaker 1: We hope you enjoy. Make sure to support the show
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Speaker 1: good stuff. We would appreciate it. Now, without further ado,
Speaker 1: let's talk about spring Heeled Jack.
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Speaker 3: You it's about us.
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Speaker 1: You can't always get the side. Hilarious, Billy hilarious. Yes, welcome,
Speaker 1: we fucked up. Welcome to the podcast. We are actually
Speaker 1: doing a live stream and Billy's basement to twitch, kind
Speaker 1: of just to test the waters on some things. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I am one of your hosts, Tom kat Ak, Tom
Speaker 1: Thompson AKA the Reptilian AKA I gave myself this name.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I'm what did I call myself?
Speaker 1: I've been calling myself like Dingery, dungaroo or something like that,
Speaker 1: something something stupid. I've said it a lot. I know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to grow up. No, tell the people
Speaker 1: from Arkansas to grow up.
Speaker 3: Grow up?
Speaker 1: And who else do we have in the house?
Speaker 3: Do the thing, do the weird thing?
Speaker 1: Do the weird thing?
Speaker 3: Come on today? Billy?
Speaker 4: I think that's what I started doing that When I
Speaker 4: started saying how to people like what's your name? To Villa,
Speaker 4: Jason be like, but here's a bill, Billy.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna talk about the most rapey
Speaker 1: cryptid there is. His name is spring hil Jack.
Speaker 3: Isn't there a murderer that actually went by the name
Speaker 3: spring Hill Jack?
Speaker 1: No, that is Jack the Ripper.
Speaker 3: No, I feel like there is. I feel like there
Speaker 3: is one. I feel like we've talked about him too.
Speaker 3: Scary movie.
Speaker 1: No, that's the original Exorcist, really.
Speaker 3: Scary movie.
Speaker 1: Ones like, is that really in the movie? And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, the movie was fucked because we want
Speaker 1: to talk about the Exorcisms. That's fucking real man. The
Speaker 1: movie and the phenomenon of that movie fucking keeps Exorcism going. Yes,
Speaker 1: Billy is oh yeah, I gotta said what we're drinking
Speaker 1: even though Billy doesn't like it. I have an assortment
Speaker 1: of beers. I have one of my favorites. It's called
Speaker 1: the Zodiac or the Zodiac. It's got all these trippy.
Speaker 3: I want one one person. I want one person.
Speaker 1: To call the mad Tom. I got to call the
Speaker 1: Mad Tim.
Speaker 4: I want one person to go oh my, and not
Speaker 4: as a joke, but genuinely be like, you know what,
Speaker 4: this podcast wouldn't be the same if I didn't know
Speaker 4: what type of beer you were drinking?
Speaker 3: Can I I need to know?
Speaker 1: Fans realistically? Do you like that I mentioned what we drink,
Speaker 1: especially if listening to an audio you don't know, you.
Speaker 3: Could just say beer or rye done? Yeah, You're always
Speaker 3: like and then this assessment of a panic gage this
Speaker 3: is how.
Speaker 1: I I hopefully get a beer sponsor. One day I
Speaker 1: was talking to Anton about that, how we can try
Speaker 1: to get like we need a sponsor, Like even a
Speaker 1: weed sponsor would be awesome because other like you don't smoke,
Speaker 1: but I smoke, Anton smokes.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, that'd be awesome for everybody else. Fantastic Billy.
Speaker 1: It would be you have to get a sponsor that
Speaker 1: is going to actually sponsor us because a lot of
Speaker 1: companies probably wouldn't consider some of the things we say.
Speaker 3: And we talked about that before.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm pretty sure I remember I went
Speaker 4: a little kick on doing random Ass for Random Ass Ship.
Speaker 4: It was like the NonStop I did one for four
Speaker 4: local ones. I'm like, I think four loco would like this.
Speaker 1: I keep saying that I think the Flying Monkey Monkey
Speaker 1: should sponsor us considering their sales in Sparkle Puff went
Speaker 1: fucking out the roof. I saw it. It's like ever
Speaker 1: since strange brow podcasts.
Speaker 3: They're talking about historical puff.
Speaker 1: So what so spring heel Jack is an entity in
Speaker 1: English folklore of the Victorian eraror what do you think
Speaker 1: about the Victorian era billy? What does it make you
Speaker 1: think of?
Speaker 4: I think I like the the fucking what's that movie
Speaker 4: called the Four Kids walk around and crowbars and masks
Speaker 4: and rob people.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you talking about fucking clock recres.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking about.
Speaker 1: That is from the fucking seventies.
Speaker 3: No, but that's what I think that. Well, they were
Speaker 3: obviously they weren't.
Speaker 1: Think of Maria Antoinette, thinking of like big ass white
Speaker 1: wigs and.
Speaker 5: Oh we're talking about like out like I airror my god, no,
Speaker 5: like where women wearing.
Speaker 2: Those tight ass corset they couldn't.
Speaker 1: Really fucking breathe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck, it.
Speaker 1: Crushed the ribs. But it reminds me of that time
Speaker 1: where it's just like there's there's the rich and the
Speaker 1: people that you know are eating their cake and their
Speaker 1: nice food, and there's the poor people where like Johnny's
Speaker 1: like delivering the paper and then fucking a piss bucket
Speaker 1: gets thrown at them by accident. It's like so saw it. It
Speaker 1: was just empting out my piss bucket.
Speaker 4: My pist bucket is green, yours is only yellow because
Speaker 4: you're stupid.
Speaker 1: So it's obviously a crazy time in this air, right,
Speaker 1: there's poor and there's rich.
Speaker 4: It's like the piss buckets like for the rich forre
Speaker 4: like actual like when you go to the dollar store now,
Speaker 4: like those mop buckets and like the pores how to
Speaker 4: use like refried bean cans.
Speaker 1: And just constantly throw them out the window.
Speaker 4: My piss bucket can hold three hundred pisses. Your piss
Speaker 4: bucket can only hold three fucking iPhone one loser.
Speaker 1: So in this time, eir is, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a bad time for poor people. There's division of poor
Speaker 1: and rich, and it's gonna happen again because every so
Speaker 1: often in history it says it's called a peasants revolt
Speaker 1: happens where people start to realize that people like Jeff
Speaker 1: Bezos and all these fucking other assholes like Bill Gates
Speaker 1: and governments are hoarding money.
Speaker 3: You know, you'll love You'll love this. This is actually
Speaker 3: blew my fucking mind. I learned this today too.
Speaker 4: I forget what the I fucking just learned literally today
Speaker 4: and already forget the terminology. But there's there's a term
Speaker 4: for when like a superpower of the world changes hands
Speaker 4: to it from one country to another, like currently, right now,
Speaker 4: US is the superpower of the world.
Speaker 3: They are, whether you like it or not, they are.
Speaker 4: But China is that, That's what I'm saying, Like, that's
Speaker 4: what And in history, every single time a superpower has
Speaker 4: changed hands, uh, it turns out that just by so coincidence,
Speaker 4: that majority of the population is having a problem with gender. So,
Speaker 4: whether it be they hated female when it was China
Speaker 4: and they started killing all the women, whether it be
Speaker 4: in Russian, Yeah, it's usually direct towards women. But it's
Speaker 4: just funny enough that now it's become a point because
Speaker 4: like once people are once all of your people are
Speaker 4: fed their clothes, you start running out of things to
Speaker 4: fucking argue about.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 3: And it's funny enough. It's funny enough that once it
Speaker 3: starts going to do.
Speaker 1: That male, I'm a male, I'm a I'm a male.
Speaker 1: Female whatever.
Speaker 4: But it's just kind of funny that like that almost
Speaker 4: is like the turning point in history. It's like every
Speaker 4: time a superpower has changed hands, it's become like a
Speaker 4: big like gender issue, whether it be like whatever it
Speaker 4: was killed a women or like this is the first
Speaker 4: time it's I'm a man, I want to be a woman.
Speaker 4: But there's not fucking nuts like like China. China's obviously
Speaker 4: do up here. There's no fucking way They're not going
Speaker 4: to be a new superpower.
Speaker 3: But isn't that cool though? Is that cool to think about?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that, uh, you know that this is
Speaker 1: going to happen in history, but the people's revolt what happens.
Speaker 1: People are waking up either way with what the buck's
Speaker 1: going on. I'm not going to talk about that.
Speaker 3: Or you can just make go make money yourself.
Speaker 1: Well that's fine, But the thing is, there's a thing
Speaker 1: about hoarding money that even average jobs and shit like that. Billy, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be rich, we get it. But it's just
Speaker 1: the fact that things are gonna fucking happen in the
Speaker 1: next couple of years that will change the course of history.
Speaker 1: I fucking highly believe and Uh, we'll get into a
Speaker 1: our of conspiracy episode because China is making their way
Speaker 1: into every backyard in every country, and.
Speaker 4: It's every backyard in a wake up one day and
Speaker 4: be like, what'd you do in here, China?
Speaker 3: And be like, greats your backyard night.
Speaker 1: He's a video of fucking Trudeau. I posted. Someone's like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? First I noticed the little arm behind him,
Speaker 1: and then I know it's a little Asian man behind
Speaker 1: him during a conference where he's talking about everybody's got
Speaker 1: got the shape, blah bah blah. Right, there's a fucking
Speaker 1: arm and he's like in front of you can tell
Speaker 1: it's front of a green screen, like it looks like
Speaker 1: he's outside, but the green screen technology to have is incredible,
Speaker 1: and his arm just appears behind his back and this
Speaker 1: little Asian man just kind of pokes out the side
Speaker 1: of his fucking like on his shoulder. No fuck, no,
Speaker 1: I cant show the video. It's fucking weird as shit.
Speaker 1: So essentially we are talking about the most rapeious cryptid
Speaker 1: and the The first claim sighting of Springhill Jack was
Speaker 1: in eighteen thirty seven. Later sightings report all over Great
Speaker 1: Britain and were prevalent in the suburb of London and
Speaker 1: the Midlands in Scotland. There are many different theories about
Speaker 1: the nature and the identity of Springhill Jack. The urban
Speaker 1: legend was very popular in its time do the tales
Speaker 1: of bizarre appearances and ability to make extraordinary leaps to
Speaker 1: the point where he became the topic of several works
Speaker 1: of fiction.
Speaker 3: I wonder, like, yeah, i'll word of mouth too, right.
Speaker 3: I wonder what the actual story was.
Speaker 4: That always blows my mind when you're talking about something
Speaker 4: like so far back, like where it wasn't like obviously, like.
Speaker 3: It's not like one news article everybody read. It's like
Speaker 3: this person or from this person.
Speaker 4: It's like the original story was like, yo, it was
Speaker 4: a creepy dude in my backyard.
Speaker 3: And now the story is like and he had seventeen holes.
Speaker 1: So Springhiel Jack was described by people who claim to
Speaker 1: have seen him as a terrifying and frightful appearance, with diabolical,
Speaker 1: clawed hands and a weird facade in eyes that resemble
Speaker 1: red balls of.
Speaker 3: Fire ballsy fires.
Speaker 1: One report claimed that beneath a black coke, he wore cloak.
Speaker 1: You wore a black cloak.
Speaker 3: Well heath that dark can of coca Cola.
Speaker 1: He wore a helmet and a tight fitting white garment
Speaker 1: like oil skin. I don't know what oil skin is,
Speaker 1: but m latex, that's what they're basically saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, should I.
Speaker 1: It's just like the mad gas I me and Anton
Speaker 1: talked about. He had a hat, a tight black suit,
Speaker 1: and you wore high heels. Maybe this is spring heel
Speaker 1: jack but he forgot his springs. He's like, my heels
Speaker 1: aren't spratted. And then inspector game, Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I was the researching this. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like his little boots that he has
Speaker 1: in the movie where he fucking started jumping, and he.
Speaker 4: Was gonna say, if you thought you had your springy
Speaker 4: heels on, but you don't.
Speaker 3: You just did a jump in the.
Speaker 4: Heel snap you broke your ankle because you're a fucking idiot.
Speaker 3: No you don't like that, okay. Ah.
Speaker 1: So many stories also mentioned a devil like aspect and
Speaker 1: this person of like how he's a demon or a devil.
Speaker 1: Others said he was tall and thin, he had blonde
Speaker 1: hair with big, bulshing eyes just joking.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: He was tall and thin and with an appearance of
Speaker 1: a gentleman. So he it's it's just funny. His name
Speaker 1: is Jack. Other than he wears like a helmet, I
Speaker 1: think with like a Bobby type helmet, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He kind of reminds me of like he's
Speaker 1: like he's like the rapee cryptid of Jack the Ripper.
Speaker 1: He's a gentleman. He dresses all nice in a cloak.
Speaker 1: He has his weird hat on. He says claws for
Speaker 1: hands and he uh, it's kind of ray pie.
Speaker 3: He's handsy. He's just handsy.
Speaker 1: We'll get into how handsy he is. And there are several.
Speaker 3: Reports to destroy his legacy.
Speaker 1: There's several reports that mentioned he could breathe out blue
Speaker 1: and white flames, and that he wore a sharp He
Speaker 1: wore sharp mettaw, claws, fingertips. There's theories that he had
Speaker 1: claus like there's there's people that claim that he had claws,
Speaker 1: and there's people that say that it was like a
Speaker 1: glove or he wore like really long stripper nails that
Speaker 1: were made out of metal them democrylics. So at least
Speaker 1: two people claim that he was able to speak at
Speaker 1: least they could comprehend and listen to what he said
Speaker 1: in English. So he wasn't English. What do you think
Speaker 1: spring Hiel jacksonund like he wasn't English or he was
Speaker 1: he was English English.
Speaker 4: Yes, he spoke English, but but he probably didn't go
Speaker 4: to like public schooling.
Speaker 1: But he's he's intelligent to an extent. He's a gentleman.
Speaker 1: Do you think he sounds like he's from Britain?
Speaker 3: Bro I'm sorry, I got okay, Sorry, that's what he said.
Speaker 4: That's what they say. They walk around, they're like part off.
Speaker 4: I just went to the toof stock these guys.
Speaker 1: Fuck you're Back in the early nineteenth century, there were
Speaker 1: reports of ghost that stock the streets of London. These
Speaker 1: human like figures were described as pale and it was
Speaker 1: believed that they stalked and prayed on lone pedestrians. Uh
Speaker 1: more or less.
Speaker 3: I mean they're just trying to walk to and from work,
Speaker 3: the people alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they know what happens when girls do that.
Speaker 3: The lonely high.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a big march. Gotta have a big
Speaker 1: march to make sure that we take back the night
Speaker 1: because the knight can't touch us anymore. We're all together.
Speaker 3: Oh fucking that guy's got a gun. Relax.
Speaker 1: You know what that is, right? Yeah, we take back
Speaker 1: My girlfriend's mom does that. So because she works, should
Speaker 1: I say that she should? She works at abuse. She's
Speaker 1: a head director at like a women's abuse shelter.
Speaker 4: It's funny though, like, yeah, you're not really taking back
Speaker 4: the night if you're marching together, unless you're doing that
Speaker 4: every night, which in case is consuming your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but walk alone and yeah say back the night.
Speaker 1: In the nineties when fucking Paul Bernard was a Scarborough rapist,
Speaker 1: if you have I heard one time that some chick
Speaker 1: got raped by a bus stop, I'd be walking around
Speaker 1: with a knife and a fucking claws from hands like
Speaker 1: a wolverine, like spring Hill Jack. Just in case you
Speaker 1: never know?
Speaker 3: Man, you that weird kid on the bus. It's like
Speaker 3: I'm Superman.
Speaker 1: So like the story is told of these figures, it
Speaker 1: kind of like it formed a part of a district
Speaker 1: ghost tradition in London, which rites which some writers have
Speaker 1: argued formed the foundation of later legends of spring Hill Jack.
Speaker 1: The most important of the early entries was from hammer
Speaker 1: Smith Ghost, which in eighth which in eighteen oh three
Speaker 1: and eighteen oh four was reported in him Hammersmith on
Speaker 1: a western fringes of like how the hammer smith ghost
Speaker 1: because there's on the fringes of this part of London.
Speaker 3: Fucking you guys are fucking original, No.
Speaker 1: They are because literally, you know what happened in Hammersmith
Speaker 1: back in the day, right, especially at this time, got
Speaker 1: a fucking heavy cocks. No, they made fucking shit. There
Speaker 1: was blacksmiths and people that hit shit with hammers. And
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, there's a lot of people making like
Speaker 1: weapons and you know, stuff out of metal and they're
Speaker 1: forging stuff. That's a blacksmith. And I hear all the time,
Speaker 1: and I walked through here, I always hear tang tang tang.
Speaker 1: That's still a blacksmith. Blacksmith's still hit but he's got
Speaker 1: a hammer in his hand. So what should we call
Speaker 1: this place? Oh, hammer smith sounds great.
Speaker 3: Blacksmith use hammers, I know.
Speaker 1: So they're like, this guy's a blacksmith and he's using
Speaker 1: a hammer, hammersmith. It's just what, Yeah, do you know
Speaker 1: fucking what the origins of our last name? Because you
Speaker 1: know that when when people are named Smith is because
Speaker 1: they were a blacksmith and that they were just like
Speaker 1: John the Blacksmith, and then eventually they got a last
Speaker 1: name and they was Smith. And then they carried on
Speaker 1: literally how names started. I looked up what a apprentice
Speaker 1: means to my original and not Thompson.
Speaker 3: You're the guy that never really learned. Yeah, an apprentice
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: And it's like, fucking strange, man, that is strange.
Speaker 3: You're fucking nube.
Speaker 1: It would later reappear this this entity in eighteen twenty four.
Speaker 1: Another apparition in the Southampton they called the Southampton Ghost,
Speaker 1: was reported as assaulting individuals in the night, and in particular,
Speaker 1: spirit bore many of character The Spirit boar many of
Speaker 1: the characteristics of springhiel jack and was reported as jumping
Speaker 1: over houses and being ten feet tall.
Speaker 3: Yo tight.
Speaker 4: Ten feet tall is not tall enough to jump over
Speaker 4: a house, but he's spring heeled.
Speaker 3: I don't fucking care.
Speaker 1: He is Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually he's Michael Jordan's space jam Maybe.
Speaker 1: Imagine English yoo ming is kind of and even taller
Speaker 1: is what this guy is.
Speaker 3: But he's a genti English. He's a rapee gentleman.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he like he's got it, says he leaps,
Speaker 1: so he's got like springs attached to his shoes.
Speaker 3: Or body's fucking cat, they're just beast.
Speaker 1: Or he's like, you know, he's like elastic legs where
Speaker 1: he just like stretches over houses.
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, he's only ten Well is this
Speaker 3: how was he jumping on? He's ten feet? What is
Speaker 3: his legs stretch to like seventy feet?
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a reptilian because reptilians are twelve to ten
Speaker 1: to twelve feet supposably supposably.
Speaker 3: Bingo, okay, yeah, no shit, I forgot about that.
Speaker 6: The first I hear you acknowledge it to The first
Speaker 6: alleged sightings of spring Hill Jack were made in London
Speaker 6: at eighteen thirty seven and the last report science in
Speaker 6: most of the secondary literature, essentially people that wrote books
Speaker 6: about spring Hill Jack had maybe been in Liverpool.
Speaker 1: In nineteen oh four who knows corna much later accounts
Speaker 1: in October eighteen thirty seven, a girl named Mary Stevens
Speaker 1: was walking to Lavender Hill.
Speaker 3: Oh not Mary, Mary, No, Well.
Speaker 1: They see there's all these stories people have wrote about
Speaker 1: these different ghosts about in this different area of this
Speaker 1: prowler that is in the nights and a south swimming
Speaker 1: and it's.
Speaker 3: Super easy to fucking move. I bet you just put
Speaker 3: up your little fucking carboard box for sale. Got a
Speaker 3: new carb box in downtown.
Speaker 1: I was like, is the Victorian age right? Because we
Speaker 1: were supposed to technically, which is weird. We're supposed to
Speaker 1: start getting into Jack the Ripper, but things different just
Speaker 1: because of weekends recording, because that's gonna be a two parter.
Speaker 1: It's funny how we gotten a spring wheel Jack instead.
Speaker 1: And I was watching from Hell, which is based loosely
Speaker 1: on a com book written about Jack the Ripper, Okay,
Speaker 1: and the time and error. It's just like, man, there
Speaker 1: was especially in some parts of London, there is prostitutes everywhere.
Speaker 1: It is really poor. There's the rich, and like even
Speaker 1: how they're talking about how people were fed grapes. They
Speaker 1: get how they were in this and uh version of it.
Speaker 1: When the women they get they get offered grapes by
Speaker 1: Jack the Ripper and then like whole grapes. I haven't
Speaker 1: had a grape in a fourth night, and they're like
Speaker 1: grapes and they fucking eat grapes, and like because poor
Speaker 1: people couldn't afford grapes, isn't that weird? It's like certain
Speaker 1: certain luxuries. That's why it's the whole thing about like
Speaker 1: when there was a whole revolt against Mary Mary Antoinette,
Speaker 1: and the whole the whole saying of let them make cake,
Speaker 1: because if you can let them consume and you give
Speaker 1: them something that they want that they don't normally have,
Speaker 1: they'll be like, all right, we're gonna forget all about
Speaker 1: storming the castle. She's given us cake. I've got cake
Speaker 1: in fucking six years. All right, let's bring on the cake.
Speaker 1: It depends on the flavor for my birthdays. It passed recently.
Speaker 1: I got an ice cream cake. Man, fucking good ship.
Speaker 1: So according to so she was, she was walking down
Speaker 1: Lavender Hill where she was working as a servant, so
Speaker 1: she doesn't have the greatest job. And after visiting her
Speaker 1: jar benefits in Battersey, on her way through chapin Common,
Speaker 1: chapin Common, a strange figure leap from a dark alley
Speaker 1: after immobilizing her with a tight grip of his arms.
Speaker 1: So he kind of like hugged her real in mobilization
Speaker 1: and he began to kiss her face. Oh he was
Speaker 1: just fucking going for it well, ripping her clothes and
Speaker 1: touching her flesh with his claws.
Speaker 3: Oh damn, he's horny.
Speaker 1: Which according to her, were cold and clammy as those
Speaker 1: of a corpse.
Speaker 3: It's claws like they're not warm to the touch, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: But that's why some people claim it's claws, and then
Speaker 1: some people claim it's metallic things that he has on
Speaker 1: his fingers.
Speaker 3: Either way, that's not that's not usually a warm material.
Speaker 1: You ever, you ever? You know, you know nimer Elm Street,
Speaker 1: you know in the Frey versus Jason remember that movie.
Speaker 1: Ye remember he's like trying to go up for dress
Speaker 1: with the fucking like bro. That's not going to feel
Speaker 1: good for anybody.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe she's into it. You people enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Stayed the masochism to be into that.
Speaker 4: I know, those people in a weird ship than the
Speaker 4: guys that fucking liked being fucking well. They're fucking people
Speaker 4: like someone just smacking their balls with like a baseball bat.
Speaker 1: That's really weird. That there's fucking porn things of like
Speaker 1: them kicking guys in the nuts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking come over it.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 4: And I wonder they're coming out of excitement or if
Speaker 4: it literally got pushed out of their deck.
Speaker 1: I know a dude in Paris and uh, I can
Speaker 1: never remember his name, but he's like he had he
Speaker 1: pierced his own dick when he was like I don't
Speaker 1: fucking know, like fourteen or fifteen, did he show you? No,
Speaker 1: you just always talking about it. I think you showed
Speaker 1: like holding in Austin these kids that we grew up with,
Speaker 1: but I never saw this kid was weird kind of
Speaker 1: he's like a really emo. He told us, No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't he was a kid weirder because it must have been.
Speaker 1: Because I don't remember this kid name. I remember she
Speaker 1: bez saying that he likes to play with blood, because
Speaker 1: this kid would tell us that I said this on
Speaker 1: another podcast actually recently something he would tell us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's look, that's my fet and she's like, I got
Speaker 1: to see blood and like, you know, cool wrists, look
Speaker 1: a little little little looky, looky. I it's fucking weird
Speaker 1: man playing blood plays a fucking weird weird weird yea strange,
Speaker 1: you might say. In a panic. The girl screamed after
Speaker 1: she was attacked by spring Hill Jack, making the attacker
Speaker 1: quickly flee from the scene. Several residents immediately lost into
Speaker 1: his search for the aggressor, but he could not be found.
Speaker 1: This guy came out of fucking nowhere and he had
Speaker 1: his fucking claws and he started touching my titties and
Speaker 1: I was like, Jesus fucking he bear hugged me first,
Speaker 1: and he's like a little slip of the nipple. It's
Speaker 1: like that's not good.
Speaker 4: Good on, like good on the people that were actually
Speaker 4: like good men back then, where is.
Speaker 3: This fucking guy?
Speaker 1: And they get like you, uh, you know how hard.
Speaker 3: That would be?
Speaker 4: And honestly, like everybody can like kind of actually take
Speaker 4: the sin is in a sense where like how good
Speaker 4: would you actually be if you're pretty sure you had
Speaker 4: no consequences, Like you could just literally live your life
Speaker 4: with no consequences, you'd be a piece of shit. I
Speaker 4: know most of you would be, yeah, must be pieces
Speaker 4: of shit.
Speaker 1: And back then, you are right that back then.
Speaker 4: That's what I mean, Like, who's gonna fucking find you
Speaker 4: like change your clothes And it's like they could be
Speaker 4: talking you'd be like did you see somebody with like
Speaker 4: very long talents and be like I didn't know.
Speaker 1: And there's and there's at the time, it's fucking England
Speaker 1: there's Bobby's. They're run around with their fucking little weird helmets,
Speaker 1: like he's got to spring your Jack's got a helmet,
Speaker 1: But I picture his helmet what he wears, and what
Speaker 1: I've seen from depictions of spring hil Jack is it's
Speaker 1: like a Bobby cap. So I think there is U
Speaker 1: talks that he is probably maybe a cop or something
Speaker 1: like that, but the cops are just running around. It
Speaker 1: always reminds me of this old timey cartoons. So the
Speaker 1: cops trying to figure out who's done what they're like knocking.
Speaker 1: So the next day, the leaping character is said to
Speaker 1: have chosen a very different victim.
Speaker 3: Near him, a man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know. It wasn't near Mary Stevens home. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he did the same method. He kind of
Speaker 1: reappeared and then later reports he jumped in the way
Speaker 1: of a passing carriage, causing the coachman to lose control
Speaker 1: and crash and severely injured himself. Damn, So he appeared,
Speaker 1: this coachman saw him. He wasn't doing his old uh
Speaker 1: touch a touch of the titty and then run away
Speaker 1: or scoop a little finger, and uh, he jumped and
Speaker 1: there's several witnesses. Several witnesses claimed that he jumped over
Speaker 1: nine feet high a nine feet high wall. He jumped
Speaker 1: over a nine ft ten Yeah, you're high, okay, and
Speaker 1: it's it's funny, and brackets two point seven meters uh,
Speaker 1: crackling with a high pitched laughter, high pitched ringing laughter
Speaker 1: as he jumped over it. What do you think he
Speaker 1: laughed like a high pitched that's actually pretty. It's like
Speaker 1: high pitched the dudes on what the fuck? Ah right,
Speaker 1: we didn't mention that for the So yeah, upstairs is
Speaker 1: two fucking vegabonds that are fucking vagabonds, vegabonds that are
Speaker 1: fucking on mushrooms. So knows what they're going through right now. Gradually,
Speaker 1: the news of the strange character spread, and soon the
Speaker 1: press and the public gave him the name spring Hill Jack.
Speaker 1: A few months later, after sightings on the ninth of
Speaker 1: January in eighteen thirty eight, the Lord Mayor of London,
Speaker 1: sud John Cowan revealed at the public session held in
Speaker 1: a mansion in the mansion house anonymous complaint that he
Speaker 1: had received several days earlier, which he had within hope
Speaker 1: of obtaining further information The correspondent who signed a letter
Speaker 1: resident of Peckham wrote, it appeals that some individual had
Speaker 1: laid away Joe with a mischievous and full hotey companion,
Speaker 1: that he dust dust not take upon himself the task
Speaker 1: of visiting many of the villages near London and three
Speaker 1: different disguises a ghost, a ba, and a devil and
Speaker 1: not a not the not the bear from the gay community.
Speaker 1: That'd be funny.
Speaker 3: I tacked.
Speaker 1: Whatever I can now, I can all we We've had
Speaker 1: a black guy in the podcast Alex Semi Black Anton's
Speaker 1: Gay Wan's Puerto Rican. You're Mexican technically, and I'm a
Speaker 1: pure white bread fucking German and Irish. Fuck so and
Speaker 1: then purebred that was bad and then uh and then
Speaker 1: you know, I said, what we need is an Asian
Speaker 1: in a bank and ever read I can't actually you
Speaker 1: trying to say it and that will be fine. And
Speaker 1: I'm just fucking joking for everybody. So this guy claims
Speaker 1: that it was like that there's story circulating of a ghost,
Speaker 1: a bear or a devil, and moreo that he never
Speaker 1: entered a gentleman's garden for the purpose of alarming the
Speaker 1: inmates of the house. The wager, however, has been accepted,
Speaker 1: and the unmanly villain has succeeded in his depriving several
Speaker 1: ladies of their senses, to whom were never who most
Speaker 1: likely will never recover because they're burdens to their family.
Speaker 3: Now, oh that's sad.
Speaker 1: They got fucking essentially groped in, molested, molested.
Speaker 3: But you imagine getting raped.
Speaker 4: And then your family is like, you're kind of garbage, Like,
Speaker 4: oh damn.
Speaker 1: You're annoying me. But all these comments are making I
Speaker 1: know that you think every man is rapist, but that
Speaker 1: can't be true.
Speaker 3: It's your dad.
Speaker 4: To more or less meant like they're not mentally stable anymore.
Speaker 3: So they're like, Wow, you're fucking annoying to be around.
Speaker 3: I saw a man.
Speaker 1: I saw a man. He said, I hate my name
Speaker 1: is that spin here Jack?
Speaker 3: And he blew away, and then he flew on his springs, so.
Speaker 1: Uh and at uh strange per at one house, at
Speaker 1: one house, the man rang the bell, and on the
Speaker 1: southern coming to the door the worst. Then the brute
Speaker 1: stood in no less dreadful figure than a specter, and
Speaker 1: clad most perfectly. The consequences was that of a poor
Speaker 1: girl and merely being swooped and never from the moment,
Speaker 1: she has never been to her senses coma. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what. Oh he swooned, he swomed, so he
Speaker 1: fucked her. He fucking touched her, That's what he did.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna google what fucking swooned means.
Speaker 4: I thought swooned meant like you you flirted like. I
Speaker 4: thought that was like, oh, he swooned me over, he
Speaker 4: like he won me over. I thought that's the swoon men.
Speaker 1: He's not wearing anybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but that clearly now that I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: I just I thought that's what it meant.
Speaker 1: Oh faint from extreme emotion.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Okay, I'm kind of right.
Speaker 4: She saw this man he was swooned by like he's like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I know, but her emotion was fear, not love.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm still technically right.
Speaker 1: Okay, could you love a man that could leap so high?
Speaker 3: Yo? I fucking leaped so hot to the guy? Koby?
Speaker 1: Yeah, bressed in pieces. I'm just joking. He was wasn't
Speaker 1: he rapist or sign? Didn't he touch? Somebody did something bad?
Speaker 3: Toby did something bad? I don't remember it.
Speaker 1: Was he touched a fifteen year old girl or some shit.
Speaker 3: I think he did rape somebody.
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship man anymore. I don't care
Speaker 1: what you think. If you enjoy this podcast, we love you.
Speaker 1: But if you're new, fuck good, go to hell. We
Speaker 1: don't know, we haven't no hell uh. The affair the
Speaker 1: has been now going on for quite some time. And okay,
Speaker 1: so she was soon she was no just his character
Speaker 1: and a strange to say strange. The papers are still
Speaker 1: silent on the subject. The writer has no reason to
Speaker 1: believe that they have the whole history at their finger ends.
Speaker 1: The fingertips the finger finger ends, but through interesting motives
Speaker 1: induced and remains silence. Obviously, they're talking in nice old
Speaker 1: fucking like supposed to be clever language. So though the
Speaker 1: Lord Mayor seemed fairly skeptical, a member of the audience
Speaker 1: confirm at the servant girl about Kingston and the Hammersmith
Speaker 1: and Irling tell dreadful stories, all these these different places
Speaker 1: of this ghost or devil. The matter was reported in
Speaker 1: Times on the ninth of January, another National paper on
Speaker 1: the tenth of January, and another the day after that.
Speaker 1: They're talking about spring hel like.
Speaker 4: You know what, we're out of story. Yeah, this is
Speaker 4: her only stories. Not too many people come up with stories.
Speaker 4: And I'm sick of hearing about how Carol's fucking raspberries
Speaker 4: on growing his death.
Speaker 1: She thinks they should, Well, this fucked a cat and
Speaker 1: we couldn't really do that. That wasn't as interesting.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what you meant to bleep out that.
Speaker 1: Well, you know that, you know, we all hear it
Speaker 1: ends up having the cat, and and we hear in
Speaker 1: every town. I was like, even talking to my uh no, Wed,
Speaker 1: yeah we did. There was a kid that supposed to
Speaker 1: rape a cat.
Speaker 3: My fucking he was my age. It's not my friend,
Speaker 3: but he was a good kid. He didn't find.
Speaker 1: Oh we have a different We had a differ kid.
Speaker 1: And I know where they lived in Paris, the poorest
Speaker 1: place you could imagine. Uh yeah, and the everyone had
Speaker 1: the story the same as. I was talking to fucking
Speaker 1: supervisor work and he's like, yeah, we had the story
Speaker 1: with this girl that stuffed the hot dogs. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I knew that girl, Becca, and it's
Speaker 1: like her name was Becca. I was like, it's every
Speaker 1: town has a fucking chick that shoves hot dogs and
Speaker 1: her vagina and then it broke off and she had
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. Everyone in Paris wores his
Speaker 1: becka chick and uh so the Lord Mayor showed a
Speaker 1: crowded gathering a pile of letters from various places around
Speaker 1: London complaining of similar wicked pranks. They're only pranks because
Speaker 1: you only got best scially back there, Like you touched
Speaker 1: your tit, did you grab your ass?
Speaker 3: It's a prank. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Almost guy does that every fucking Friday. Man walking by.
Speaker 1: You're like, Jesus fuck again. Why you always hear bro
Speaker 1: it's Friday. I know all the school girls get out
Speaker 1: of the school at this time. The quantity of letters
Speaker 1: then poured into the mansion, how suggested that stories were
Speaker 1: widespread in the suburban of London, and one writer said
Speaker 1: of several young women in Hammersmith that have been frightened
Speaker 1: into dangerous fits. It's just they're frightened into literally a
Speaker 1: fit where they're like, oh, nothing can calm me, and
Speaker 1: they're freaking out because they got growned by some weird
Speaker 1: demon creature and they were supposed to. Some of them
Speaker 1: were severely wounded by a sort of claw of the
Speaker 1: miscreant that he wore in his hand. He's repping the
Speaker 1: Freddie fucking glove before Freddy was even a thing.
Speaker 3: Bro, he probably is the Freddie glove. That's probably where
Speaker 3: the Freddy glove came from.
Speaker 1: No, Actually, Wes Craven, as strange as it is, had
Speaker 1: nightmares that that, and then that.
Speaker 3: Probably he keeps fucking coming up with characters like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, hills have eyes. There's a bunch of like fucking
Speaker 1: hillbillies living in the fucking hills that rape and kill people.
Speaker 4: Another correspondent they see and make them go blind.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of ship he has. Uh, people on
Speaker 1: the stairs? Great movie. Black kid breaks into a fucking
Speaker 1: home and there's this very leather bound man that loves
Speaker 1: to wear leather and hunts down people on the every
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen people.
Speaker 3: On the stairs?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: What an original fucking name too. I just know that
Speaker 3: movie is not that good.
Speaker 1: Often, Oh it is great. It's a great horror movie.
Speaker 1: So this like these these of course they're black, but
Speaker 1: this this older gim because they break into a house
Speaker 1: and they wanted to steal out under the gods, because
Speaker 1: black people steal according to the world anyways, So and
Speaker 1: they break in. Yeah, And then is that the new
Speaker 1: words you learn this week? Gaslighting? I just fucking yeah,
Speaker 1: And especially they break in and they finally, this is
Speaker 1: a weird mentioned this girls being like their daughter is
Speaker 1: kind of essentially held captive, and every they try to
Speaker 1: make her have a good boyfriend essentially, and then every
Speaker 1: boyfriend she has they don't like. They keep in the
Speaker 1: basement and they're all like behind the walls and ship
Speaker 1: it's fucked up. Yeah, they cut out one of the
Speaker 1: guy's tongues and.
Speaker 3: He broke out.
Speaker 4: And when check probably sometimes chick probably keeps bringing home
Speaker 4: bad dudes because they're like everybody leaves, like anybody that
Speaker 4: gives attention to her, She's like, oh my god, you're
Speaker 4: my favorite commure.
Speaker 1: You want to watch her with me?
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's actually it sounds of cool.
Speaker 1: So another correspondent claim that in Stockwell, in Brixton, uh
Speaker 1: Chamberwell and Vuxhall, several people had died of fright and
Speaker 1: others had fits. Meanwhile, other reports that a trickster had
Speaker 1: been repeatedly seen in lewis Ham and Blackheath. The Lord
Speaker 1: Mayor himself was in two minds after the affair. He
Speaker 1: thought two different things he thought, this is the greatest
Speaker 1: exaggerations that have been ever made, or quite possibly the
Speaker 1: ghost that performs feats of if he's the devil upon earth.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, someone he trusted had told
Speaker 1: him of a servant girl at Forest Hill who had
Speaker 1: been scaring the fits by a figure in bear skin.
Speaker 1: He confided that the person or persons involved in this
Speaker 1: weird phenomenon display would be caught and punished. He was
Speaker 1: out for the fucking rapee guy. The police were instructed
Speaker 1: a search for individuals responsible and a reward would be offered.
Speaker 1: So they're they're looking out for Jack. They're they're looking
Speaker 1: for him. They probably won't find him, but they're looking.
Speaker 3: And even if they do find him, what are you
Speaker 3: gonna do?
Speaker 1: Put him in jail? They had jail back then.
Speaker 3: I mean, like you can find him, you ain't gonna
Speaker 3: catch him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna jump really high.
Speaker 3: Ye fuck you gone.
Speaker 4: But he's in fucking Montana now, he's just here in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Particular report from Brighton, which appears in the Gazette, obviously
Speaker 1: a nice paper in fourteen April. In April fourteenth, eighteen
Speaker 1: thirty eight, expedition of the Times They did report him
Speaker 1: in mainstream news many times, and related to how a
Speaker 1: gardener in rose Hill, Sussex, had been terrified by a
Speaker 1: creature of unknown nature. The Times wrote, spring Hill Jack,
Speaker 1: it seems, found his way to Sussex coast. Even through
Speaker 1: the reports bore the little resemblance of other accounts of Jack.
Speaker 1: So it's just like they're like, maybe he came here.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just a fucking creeper. Who knows.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: The internet occurred on April of thirteenth, and when he
Speaker 1: appeared to the garden in the shape of a bear
Speaker 1: or some other four footed animal, so that people are
Speaker 1: saying bears, saying ghosts, and they're saying devils. Having attracted
Speaker 1: the garden's attention by a ground, He's like, I know
Speaker 1: it's a little late to be gardening, but I gotta
Speaker 1: get my ship done. These guys the clippers is clipping along.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I guess they have clippers. Back then,
Speaker 1: the fucking the blacksmith would make it clipping around the bushes.
Speaker 1: And then he was that's weird looks around. It's like
Speaker 1: springheal Jack goes out of fucking nowhere and do you
Speaker 1: wonder if he grabbed his dick. He's like he likes
Speaker 1: touching people. He's like, he's like, he kind of grabbed
Speaker 1: my balls, and I felt that.
Speaker 4: My assho when I was like, I just didn't want
Speaker 4: to admit I liked it, but.
Speaker 1: I liked it A terrifying gardener, and the apparition scaled
Speaker 1: the walls and made its exit. Perhaps the best known
Speaker 1: or alleged engine involved spring hil jacked, where attack on
Speaker 1: two teenage girls. Lucy Scales I know and Jane al
Speaker 1: saw Austin. Jane Alsop, I can't be how you pronounce
Speaker 1: that a L s Op? Maybe stop Alsop? So stop
Speaker 1: Lucy Scales?
Speaker 3: Lucy Scales Scales on her?
Speaker 1: Wow? Well? A few reports appear in relation to the
Speaker 1: attack on Scales. The press coverage of the two attacks
Speaker 1: help raise the profile of spring Hill jack. So let's
Speaker 1: get into the Lsop case. Jane Alsop reported on the
Speaker 1: night of nineteenth February eighteen thirty eight, she answered the
Speaker 1: door of her father's house to a man claiming to
Speaker 1: be a police officer. Hello, alrighty toy, I am a
Speaker 1: police officer. I am here to check your premises. I
Speaker 1: hear I have a man who can jump very high.
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, can you jump high? An eye
Speaker 3: into my Juliet balcony.
Speaker 1: Who told her uh to bring a light, claiming we have.
Speaker 3: Caps spring heeled jack here in the lane.
Speaker 1: So the coppers are like here but that guy? Do
Speaker 1: you hear about? Team?
Speaker 3: Can? I actually? Can I backtrack for a second.
Speaker 4: I can you imagine like a day in an era
Speaker 4: where like if you could jump high like people were
Speaker 4: horny and be like you dunk of basketball. All the
Speaker 4: girls are just sitting there fucking figure banging themselves like oh.
Speaker 3: I sleep, fucking slam that shit.
Speaker 1: In Canada, we have these commercials. We used to have
Speaker 1: these commercials and Billy remember them. It was called Heritage
Speaker 1: or something like that. I want fucking anyone of that's
Speaker 1: Canadian to remember this. Bring it back to the times
Speaker 1: of a guad TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, exactly weird.
Speaker 1: And they'd always do these things of like Terry Fox
Speaker 1: ran and blah blah blah. It's like things to do
Speaker 1: with Canadian history. And the one was the first time
Speaker 1: some bunch of fucking not very tall white dudes playing
Speaker 1: around and playing around the basketball and they keep shooting
Speaker 1: it in the hoop, but it was basket and every
Speaker 1: time this old man had to come up and then
Speaker 1: poke a stick to fucking get the ball out, so
Speaker 1: they would shoot the basketball into a basket. Essentially, it
Speaker 1: was just a ball that could kind of bounce, and
Speaker 1: then every time fucking old man Jim had to go
Speaker 1: and fucking pop the basketball. So one guy's like, maybe
Speaker 1: we should cut a hole in it. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: that's how basketball was forming. If you didn't fucking know,
Speaker 1: basketball comes from the Great Land of Canada and the
Speaker 1: Great White North, you know what.
Speaker 4: I guess the only Canadians have be mad at this.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Americans have said this forever. But I've had
Speaker 4: my beef with Helen Kellener.
Speaker 7: I've had my beef with a lot of fucking uh
Speaker 7: beef that none of that shit's fucking real anyways, but uh,
Speaker 7: she did not fucking write books.
Speaker 3: Fuck off.
Speaker 4: But anyways, Uh, I think I cut deep with Terry Foxed.
Speaker 1: I know how often I do a very good Terry
Speaker 1: fox run, and I do it at work all the time,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to get up, but I make
Speaker 1: my one leg super fucking straight, and then I just
Speaker 1: fucking and like even my boss was like, came out
Speaker 1: the office when he's like, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm Terry Fox. It's like shit shaking
Speaker 1: his head like what the fuck?
Speaker 3: No, But I was thinking, like, do you think it
Speaker 3: would be easier to run that far because your one
Speaker 3: leg doesn't not muscles in it?
Speaker 1: No, it would be harder if you had the two
Speaker 1: metal legs. You ever hear Kat Williams joke about ting
Speaker 1: ting yet.
Speaker 3: Jeffer's jokes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Cat Williams did it way better that I know.
Speaker 1: Cat Williams was the king of comedy until the Illuminati
Speaker 1: got him because when he filmed Scary Movie five, he
Speaker 1: literally said the Illuminati was trying to take his kids
Speaker 1: away from him. They're fucking with him. And guess what,
Speaker 1: guess we don't hear from anymore Katways, as you could say,
Speaker 1: he's an alcoholic and he's fucking done too many drugs
Speaker 1: and maybe his brain's a little fucked, but he was.
Speaker 1: He was bigger and better than Kevin Hart. Fucking years ago.
Speaker 1: He was the best most paid, highest paid comedian next
Speaker 1: to Dave Chappelle at a time. And I love Katwaiams.
Speaker 1: He talks about the fucking one joke where it's like
Speaker 1: the fastest runner, you beat all the guys on like
Speaker 1: real legs, like human legs and human legs, not not
Speaker 1: robot legs. But thing was like, here comes ting ting
Speaker 1: ting ting ting ting ting ting ting hilarious.
Speaker 4: But the whole thing is like, if you're running and
Speaker 4: you have one, like I have both my real legs,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but don't if you're running people, but
Speaker 4: do you think of it be easier because like now
Speaker 4: you're no, because you're only getting exhausted from one actual leg.
Speaker 3: The other one is just kind of like a wooden block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually all your muscle and memory into Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can learn how to walk on it. But ting Ting
Speaker 1: did really well. So why don't Chelsea's favorite stand ups special?
Speaker 4: He shot her through the fucking.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's not the same guy.
Speaker 4: Oh I thought, so, yeah, that is the same guy.
Speaker 4: That is the exact same guy, the Olympian. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: shot her through the bathroom door. And Jim Jefferies does
Speaker 4: his skin and he's like, you know how damasculating that is,
Speaker 4: because like he's like he's probably the only fucking man
Speaker 4: on this entire earth that couldn't kick that little door lock.
Speaker 4: It sounds, it sounds really, so he shot her through
Speaker 4: the fucking door.
Speaker 1: Should we uh? Should we? Should we do an episode
Speaker 1: on disabled killers because a guy named the there's a guy,
Speaker 1: a kid named a lobster boy and he was like
Speaker 1: a sideshow freak and uh, he killed a bunch of people.
Speaker 3: Oh really, probably should we.
Speaker 1: Get into it without offend people? Should we do it
Speaker 1: just because we get fact? But I guess it happened.
Speaker 3: People that aren't disabled also kill people.
Speaker 1: So he showed up and he's like, we've caught spring
Speaker 1: Hill Jack. And you know, he approaches the women's and
Speaker 1: it's like he's like, all right, all right, And she
Speaker 1: brought the candle and she's like, you know, she brought
Speaker 1: the personal care and I need light.
Speaker 8: I got it.
Speaker 1: You know he's out there. I saw him, okay, got
Speaker 1: him cornered and uh and then she noticed he wore
Speaker 1: a large cloak. The moment she handed in the candle, however,
Speaker 1: he threw off his cloak and presented a hideous, frightful appearance,
Speaker 1: vomiting blue and white flames from his mouth while his
Speaker 1: eyes resembled.
Speaker 3: Great big bowls of fire. Smell the fuckers a dragon.
Speaker 3: They've been watching too much Harry Potter back in the eight.
Speaker 1: So that's fucking crazy. Meanwhile, he's just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a mouthful a look scaring people.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 1: But miss uh ossell Up reported that he also wore
Speaker 1: a large helmet and that his clothes, which appeared very
Speaker 1: tight fitting. So he's wearing spandex yes.
Speaker 3: All Lulu lemon and its finest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, resembling a white oilskin. Without saying a word, he
Speaker 1: caught hold of her and began tearing her grain or
Speaker 1: her gownge.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, tearing her gown.
Speaker 1: Jesus with his clause, he's like a sadistic Freddy Krueger,
Speaker 1: which he's already a sadistic so well, she said, we're
Speaker 1: certain certainly made of a metallic substance. Somebody saw this
Speaker 1: numerous times and thought it was claused. There was a
Speaker 1: metallic something. She screamed for help pa and managed to
Speaker 1: get away from him and ran towards the house. He
Speaker 1: caught her on one step and tore her neck and
Speaker 1: arms with his claws, and she was rescued by one
Speaker 1: of her sisters, and he fled. The assailant fled another girl.
Speaker 3: I can't take two of them.
Speaker 1: So uh so you want to get into scales case.
Speaker 4: Scales case, let's go fucking Shelby scaleyse garbage.
Speaker 3: What's her name again?
Speaker 1: Lucy so on the twenty eighth, February nine, eighteen thirty eight,
Speaker 1: nine days after the attack, or miss aslop.
Speaker 3: Fucking ashlop no al slap.
Speaker 1: Or al slope or whatever the fuck I said? Eighteen
Speaker 1: year old? Eighteen year old? He likes them young, she's
Speaker 1: of age. Leaving alone Lucy Scalees and her sister returning
Speaker 1: home after visiting their brother, a butcher who lived in
Speaker 1: a respectable part of Limehouse. The names of your guys,
Speaker 1: city is our cities? Is atrocious to me?
Speaker 3: You pretentious fuck atrocious.
Speaker 1: Miss Scale stated in her like statement to the police
Speaker 1: that she that as her sister and her we're passing
Speaker 1: along Grenge, Rag and Alley? Are we in? Fucking Harry Potter?
Speaker 1: Is that a real place?
Speaker 3: Dude? I told you, Harry pot Is that a real place?
Speaker 1: That was my joke? Harry Potter? Is real? Is that
Speaker 1: a real place? Green Dragon Alley?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know we have UK listeners and people from good
Speaker 1: old Mattel London, England. I'm interesting. They observed a person
Speaker 1: standing yeah again along this passage, this alley. She was
Speaker 1: walking in front of her sister at the time, and
Speaker 1: just as she came up to the person who was
Speaker 1: wearing a large cloak, he's spurted a quantity of a
Speaker 1: large blue flame flame in her face. It pretty much
Speaker 1: comes up to these chicks and it's like.
Speaker 4: Hey, green jet dragon alley is in Middlesex. Yeah, middle
Speaker 4: our sexte Middlesex is Middlesex.
Speaker 3: Is that like a trans person? Great Joe, come on.
Speaker 1: That was kind of funny, which deprived her so literally
Speaker 1: walking she's this weird guy in cloak. Well, I'm with
Speaker 1: my sister. He can't read both of us at the
Speaker 1: same time. And then this guy's like turn to watch
Speaker 1: me and fucking blows blue flame in her face, this
Speaker 1: blue flame ship, and which deprived her of her sight.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it was like suddenly goes blind. I
Speaker 1: wonder if it was.
Speaker 4: Something like fucking like when you when you do a
Speaker 4: lighter and you fucking spray acts into it.
Speaker 3: He's the first person to do a flame through her.
Speaker 1: There is ideas that maybe he was doing that old
Speaker 1: carnival trick fucking alcohol. Yeah, that existed probably for you know,
Speaker 1: you know how long ago. It probably existed probably Roman times.
Speaker 1: Like you know what's funny you sues torch I have
Speaker 1: and they's blue alcohol, and I'm like, wow, this shit's flammable.
Speaker 3: It went on from that flamable, flammable.
Speaker 1: Yeah's true, hulable, and that she instantly dropped to the
Speaker 1: ground and she seized with a violent fits, which continued
Speaker 1: for several hours. Guy, this guy appeared, blew some blue
Speaker 1: flame in her face, and she starts seizing up and
Speaker 1: fucking having these violent fits. Her brother added that on
Speaker 1: the evening in question, he had heard the loud screams
Speaker 1: of one of his sister. Moments after he left his
Speaker 1: house running up Green Dragon Alley, he found his sister
Speaker 1: Lucy on the ground to fit.
Speaker 3: You know, the guys ups are having a fit right now.
Speaker 1: Actually, these guys are tripping on fucking mushrooms. They're laughing.
Speaker 1: It started to kicking me and Chelsea.
Speaker 3: I heard it through the headphones. I had to go
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: We made We did a quarter of mushrooms. I used
Speaker 1: to do four or five grams some I guess quarter
Speaker 1: would be seven. But we did I think we had
Speaker 1: four or five grams and a tea everyone. I've been
Speaker 1: trying to convince Billy for the past three years to
Speaker 1: do mushrooms.
Speaker 3: That's why you're not a salesman, because I keep saying
Speaker 3: that I don't need.
Speaker 1: To sell you anything. I need to say, you're one
Speaker 1: of my you're my best friend, You're fuck off go
Speaker 1: home for once.
Speaker 5: Man, we can hold can hold my hand and experience
Speaker 5: it together that it was horrible the first time.
Speaker 1: We could just set this camera up in the care.
Speaker 3: What the camera is. Unless I'm getting millions of dollars
Speaker 3: from this ship, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: Uh. If the fans, all the five fans that we have,
Speaker 1: if they all paid ten bucks, would you do a
Speaker 1: fucking live stream.
Speaker 3: On They'n'll pay one hundred dollars to do live stream
Speaker 3: on mushrooms?
Speaker 1: Right there you go, there's.
Speaker 3: Jesus five hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: All right, some rich person out there, If you get
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, we will do a live stream on mushrooms.
Speaker 1: So essentially, when they they're running through Green Dragon Alley, jeez,
Speaker 1: it is like it makes me want to watch Harry
Speaker 1: Potter he found his sister loosely on the ground. She's
Speaker 1: in a fit with her sister attempting to hold and
Speaker 1: support her. So essentially, the sister that watched this happen
Speaker 1: is like freaking out and trying to probably know what
Speaker 1: they would do back then. Slap slap, slap slop, Lucy,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Fuck? It's freaking out. Slap stop slop.
Speaker 1: It's like you've seen a princess bride? Right?
Speaker 9: No, never seen I know it, mon Toya, your father
Speaker 9: I've never watched Killed my father payed today.
Speaker 1: It's such a good movie. Have you never seen? It's
Speaker 1: sucking hilarious. Just so I only watch comedies. It is
Speaker 1: a comedy. It's literally know as a black comedy.
Speaker 3: Well it's a black comedy. I only want what it's
Speaker 3: There's literally nothing but like that's just that is not
Speaker 3: what I meant by black comedy. You stupid fuck so and.
Speaker 1: Then everyone's freaking out, which is crazy. She was taken home,
Speaker 1: and he learned from his other sister what happened. A
Speaker 1: strange man appealed and blue. There's some blue flames.
Speaker 3: He was blowing flames.
Speaker 1: She described Lucy's sound as being tall, thin, and gentlemanly. Appearance,
Speaker 1: so they always say gentleman. So he's in back, is
Speaker 1: super nice, he's probably he's probably fucking gentleman? Is that?
Speaker 1: Back then? It seems like gentleman isn't it's not someone
Speaker 1: who's nice and that I know. I know, but like
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you're right, but like a gentleman would
Speaker 1: be a gentle man. That's why I feel like a
Speaker 1: gentleman is supposed to be someone saying, Okay, I'll hold
Speaker 1: the door for you. I'm suave, I twirl my mustache
Speaker 1: as I do things for you. Like it just seems
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 3: Thought you're saying gentle man, like he only touches you.
Speaker 1: Do you think of his okay, gentleman? Back then, it
Speaker 1: is like hoity toity, someone who's like when I drink
Speaker 1: my tea, I stick my pinky out, like.
Speaker 4: It's like this, you feel fancy do it? I have
Speaker 4: a drink, take your pinky out and drink. You can't
Speaker 4: really do it with Tell me you don't feel more pretentious.
Speaker 3: Than ever.
Speaker 1: That said weird I did?
Speaker 3: That doesn't like isn't there a feeling that washes over you?
Speaker 3: You're like, wow, I'm better than everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't understand that, but it says like a gentleman
Speaker 1: is someone who is who is better off, has money,
Speaker 1: and then so she says that you know he was,
Speaker 1: he was a gentleman in appearance covering a large cloak
Speaker 1: and carrying a small lamp or a bullseye lantern similar
Speaker 1: to those. It's weird a bullseye lantern. And what my
Speaker 1: idea of what it would be was like, think about
Speaker 1: a normal day lantern and some old fucking timmy dudes
Speaker 1: walking around holding right, but the it's blacked around the edges, right,
Speaker 1: So there's a candle inside because they didn't have electricity
Speaker 1: at this time, but it's like a flashlight because now
Speaker 1: the candle light is only going in this direction, so
Speaker 1: there and then so police, just imagine car on a
Speaker 1: fucking thing with a candle inside of it. And you
Speaker 1: remember and back then there was a dude. It's in
Speaker 1: fucking Mary Poppins. We've talked about this, how they all
Speaker 1: did blackflate face because they were chimney sweeps. But there
Speaker 1: was dudes that were paid to walk around and light
Speaker 1: the candles on the street lights up at nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: What a weird job man, What a.
Speaker 3: Sick job easiest, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Not much the individual. He did not speak, nor did
Speaker 1: he try to lay his hands on them like he
Speaker 1: normally would. He's a he's a rape. And it's weird
Speaker 1: because it's almost like he's just he's a weird paranormal
Speaker 1: phenomenon because he's not he's not a cryptied. He's a
Speaker 1: cryptid technically because he's this strange creature. But it's like
Speaker 1: a it's a man, and we'll get into what people
Speaker 1: think it is. But instead of walking quickly away, he
Speaker 1: he just he just he got out of there. He
Speaker 1: just hes kind of every effort made by the police,
Speaker 1: he just kind of like he's fucking fucked off. He jumped, leaped,
Speaker 1: and every effort made by the police to discover the author,
Speaker 1: the person that created this uh, and several persons that
Speaker 1: winnessed he was he was set was set free.
Speaker 3: So they what do you mean the author?
Speaker 1: That's how they.
Speaker 4: So they're clearly saying it's not real. They're trying to
Speaker 4: find out the person who's making this south.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're also saying that like it's the person after
Speaker 1: this what happened, And essentially they would look for somebody
Speaker 1: and they would arrest somebody, and they would always let
Speaker 1: them free because like, this is not the guy we're
Speaker 1: looking for.
Speaker 3: You just arrested Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Jimmy's just strung up on crack, but he had his
Speaker 4: opioid fucking dose for the fucking week.
Speaker 1: Head smoked methroom was like a grab a tip to
Speaker 1: end fucking fly away.
Speaker 4: He didn't really fly away though, he probably just like
Speaker 4: he's probably just like good at high jump, so he
Speaker 4: like just like because I could jump like a high jump,
Speaker 4: I can jump on the.
Speaker 1: Six feet had he always had one buddy back.
Speaker 3: And I'm landing on my back after he.
Speaker 1: Had a buddy with just a crate full of chickens.
Speaker 1: And every time he's like, man, you keep doing this
Speaker 1: and I keep having to replace my chicken coops because
Speaker 1: you keep breaking every chicken spine. It's like, well they're soft, okay,
Speaker 1: something they don't have fucking what is that called gym
Speaker 1: class the mats?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So the Times you pour the alleged attack on Jane
Speaker 1: Allsop on the second March of eighteen thirty eight under
Speaker 1: the heading the late outage at old Ford, can you
Speaker 1: imagine like fucking readingspaper just fucking.
Speaker 4: Doing being this guy and they're like he's a real guy,
Speaker 4: but like he actually was only high jumping. So like
Speaker 4: every time the police came, he's like, dah, wait, let's
Speaker 4: walk over to this medium size wall over here.
Speaker 1: Ah, everyone's super short and there's the one.
Speaker 4: He's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: come over here, ten feet you can arrest me.
Speaker 3: Just give me a minute. And they're like, all right,
Speaker 3: we're gonna walk over and we're gonna corner you in here.
Speaker 4: Next to this medium size wall. And he's just like, hey,
Speaker 4: you got me. But ha, he just high jumps over
Speaker 4: wall that's like.
Speaker 1: Three foot tall but everyone in Britain only four foot
Speaker 1: he's like seven.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
Speaker 4: He's like that motherfucker just leap that ship and like
Speaker 4: I can't do that.
Speaker 3: That that's that's the same height as my face. I
Speaker 3: can't jump that high.
Speaker 1: So this was followed with an account of the trial
Speaker 1: of of course, one Thomas Millbank of course, who immediately
Speaker 1: after reported an attack on Jane I'll slaugh stop had
Speaker 1: boasted in Morgan's arms. I'm guessing that sounds like a
Speaker 1: pub that he was spring heel jack. But guess what
Speaker 1: I'm spring heel jack. I'm spring heel jack. No, I'm
Speaker 1: spring hiel jack.
Speaker 3: I can jump higher than you. I guarantee that I'm
Speaker 3: spring heel jack. Okay, I like I like your rebuttal.
Speaker 3: It was a good rebuttal, good argument.
Speaker 1: We just said you can jump highers and I can jump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you just went, no, I'm spring.
Speaker 9: Your legs just extend high. You used to have more extension.
Speaker 9: Good high jump jump right now. But I stand up
Speaker 9: a good jump, dude, I can't. I can't jump in here.
Speaker 3: My head.
Speaker 1: Ceiling is not tall like scary movies. Actually, you know, John,
Speaker 1: but you smack your head and then I'm doing the
Speaker 1: podcast by myself. All right, your shoulders. So this guy
Speaker 1: was arrested.
Speaker 3: Dunk yourself, my mom can dunk, can dunk.
Speaker 1: He was arrested and tried at Lambbeth Street Court. The
Speaker 1: arresting officer was James Lee, who had early arrested William Carter,
Speaker 1: the Red Barn murderer. Interesting, I wonder what that's about,
Speaker 1: uh Mill Bank, Thomas Moll bank, chickens. I want to know.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm curious what that's about. But then the dock
Speaker 1: in in my head. Red barn murderer mill Bank Thomas
Speaker 1: moll Bank had been wearing white overalls and a.
Speaker 3: Great coat, a great or gray.
Speaker 1: It's great coat in one word.
Speaker 3: I think he means gray. I think it's missed.
Speaker 1: It's a really good coat.
Speaker 3: This ship's fucking this Louis Vuitton code over here, which
Speaker 3: he dropped outside the house. No, he did not leave
Speaker 3: his fore and dollar code out.
Speaker 1: And the candle he dropped was also found. You.
Speaker 3: Oh, that ship's probably expensive as fouck. I wonder if
Speaker 3: they had scented back then.
Speaker 1: Definitely, No, it was sent it was scented like horse.
Speaker 3: Come.
Speaker 4: No, but can you imagine if you grab like a
Speaker 4: peppermint leaf and like just rubbed it on like the candle.
Speaker 3: I wonder if that meant the.
Speaker 1: Candles back then?
Speaker 3: You know? Wax, baby fat wax.
Speaker 1: According to witches, they used baby fat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well that's not fucking true. Jesus Christ, I'm
Speaker 3: not that drunk.
Speaker 1: They used baby fat. Bro do the person that's like
Speaker 1: they didn't have colored pictures before the fucking eighties.
Speaker 4: I'm also the person saying that they didn't fucking he
Speaker 4: used baby fat.
Speaker 1: They escaped conviction only because Jane also insisted her attacker
Speaker 1: had the breath of fire, and Millbank admitted he couldn't
Speaker 1: do such things. It's like I can, I can try,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I could do it.
Speaker 4: That's actually bugging me though. I hate that you said that.
Speaker 4: What year did color pictures come out?
Speaker 3: Again? What year was it?
Speaker 4: It wasn't that much earlier than I thought it was earlier.
Speaker 4: But the thing is, it wasn't that much.
Speaker 1: Earlier, okay, in filming wise and films, no.
Speaker 3: Just pictures. It was pictures, all right, I'll google. But
Speaker 3: I know because like my mom would grow up and
Speaker 3: they only had black and white. Well my mom was
Speaker 3: growing up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in Mexico.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be fair, that's probably why I haven't. I'm
Speaker 3: misled here.
Speaker 1: Uh you do you remember?
Speaker 3: I think it was like nineteen thirty or something. Wasn't
Speaker 3: it nineteen forty or nineteen thirty?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? You remember when there went so many Mexicans?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Like you remember when the first
Speaker 1: colored movie was?
Speaker 8: It was a Disney.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought it was a Disney.
Speaker 2: Was No.
Speaker 1: The first time I ever did al looked at live
Speaker 1: colored a lot?
Speaker 3: Okay, it wasn't it snow white was the first color
Speaker 3: the first.
Speaker 1: Process for color photography. Photography photography appeared in eighteen nineties.
Speaker 3: Bro okay, the first process. I'm talking like that. That's
Speaker 3: the rich of the rich.
Speaker 4: Ninety nine percent of the population didn't have access to
Speaker 4: that till like nineteen thirty maybe even the forties. The
Speaker 4: hell even the fifties. All right, when is that a
Speaker 4: thing you can search? When did the general public have
Speaker 4: access to color?
Speaker 3: When?
Speaker 4: When did the general There's no way anything's going to
Speaker 4: come up. General public have access to color.
Speaker 3: Photos.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we got coconut Mam.
Speaker 3: Wasn't until nineteen thirty five. I fucking knew it.
Speaker 1: You did, I fucking knew it in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: You said that they fucking didn't have color photos. Bro, No,
Speaker 1: I I go back to Bend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't the sixties, was it. Yeah? Okay, that
Speaker 3: was my bad. But still that's a lot closer.
Speaker 1: The incidents of spring hiel Jack became one of the
Speaker 1: most popular characters of the period. Like, you know who,
Speaker 1: we like, We like that rape guy, Spring heel Jack.
Speaker 1: He's he's an interesting character. So his alleged exploits were
Speaker 1: reported newspapers and began the subject of several penny dreadfuls
Speaker 1: and plays performed and at cheap theaters that are around
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: So remember cheap theaters were expensive.
Speaker 1: Funny how they called them penny dreadfuls. That's a weird
Speaker 1: way to say it. So essentially, you'd probably pay a
Speaker 1: penny at the time, yes, that to now, I don't know,
Speaker 1: ten bucks, that's ay, was gonna guess that. To ten
Speaker 1: bucks you would go see they have like a movie,
Speaker 1: because the movie at the time. You would go see
Speaker 1: these plays horrible costumes like you know what we did,
Speaker 1: we beat the ship at five homeless guys that this
Speaker 1: is where we got a costu. And they would put
Speaker 1: all these plays of spring Hill Jack. I would love to.
Speaker 3: See, you know how bad they'd be.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a woman and there going ah no, no,
Speaker 4: no no, we're in fucking Mexico, and and Kenzuela being
Speaker 4: the fucking woman.
Speaker 1: So the devil was even renamed spring Hill Jack. And
Speaker 1: they put this in.
Speaker 4: Plays, The devil insam in the devil fucking that's a damn.
Speaker 4: The devil probably fucked him up for taking his name.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what this is, but some old
Speaker 1: fox may in Punch and Judy shows as reencountered by
Speaker 1: Henry Mayhew in London, Labor in London, or this hit Satan.
Speaker 1: We might say the devil, but ain't right. The general
Speaker 1: folks don't like such words. He is now commonly known
Speaker 1: as Springhill Jack. Then bear, it's hilarious. It's Rosenbar that
Speaker 1: that sends the wall. So it's just what they used
Speaker 1: to call the devil at the time where he became
Speaker 1: so infamous with his touchy feely raypee, let me blow
Speaker 1: some fucking fire, fucking blue flames at your face, Percucci
Speaker 1: or rosen Bear, which made me think of Roseanne Bar. Funny.
Speaker 1: But even as his fame was growing, reports of Springheel
Speaker 1: Jack's appearances became less frequent. I wonder why, but he
Speaker 1: got a lot more widespreads. People heard about him, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't as aufor like, oh, four years ago, fucking
Speaker 1: swinging Dragon. In eighteen forty three, however, a wave of
Speaker 1: sightings swept the country again.
Speaker 4: Oh, I bet he got married and then he fucking divorced,
Speaker 4: and then he's like, fuck him going back.
Speaker 3: Fuck, I'm going back to my old thing.
Speaker 1: So a report from wait.
Speaker 3: From strange part.
Speaker 1: A report from north Hampton, Shia described him as the
Speaker 1: very image of the devil with horns and eyes of
Speaker 1: flames and East Angla. Reports of attacks on a driver
Speaker 1: of a of male coaches became common.
Speaker 3: A river of male coaches. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Someone who rides in a horse of carriage driver full
Speaker 1: of mail because they didn't have text message back then, kids,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to write letters. No, fuck, you could fucking.
Speaker 4: A really long string into the next town with Lemon
Speaker 4: and lime should not go together.
Speaker 1: It's not bad so lemon.
Speaker 3: Lime sodam No, I'm saying what did you just say?
Speaker 1: Lemon and lime shouldn't go together?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: It's like it's like either it's lime or it's lemon.
Speaker 1: You don't put two together. Okay, I don't know. This
Speaker 1: is fide okay. And what you say? Did you say
Speaker 1: something bad?
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying it super fucking popular.
Speaker 1: In July eighteen forty seven, a spring Hill jack investigation
Speaker 1: started in teagan Mouth, Davin late to the cabin Finch
Speaker 1: led to the Captain Finch. Is what they led these
Speaker 1: investigations to is Captain Finch and he was convicted of
Speaker 1: two charges of assault against women, during which he said
Speaker 1: to have been disguised in a skin coat which he
Speaker 1: appeared which appeared of a ballocks hide, skull cap.
Speaker 3: Palms and masks. Look, can we talk about how fucking
Speaker 3: ballocks the word bollocks is.
Speaker 1: It means it means balls essentially never mind the bullocks,
Speaker 1: never mind the bullshit, it means bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, Okay, I know what it means.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, can you talk about how stupid the
Speaker 3: word is?
Speaker 1: Ballocks?
Speaker 3: Bullocks? You know what I got beef? You know what
Speaker 3: I got Beef's Billy's Got Beef.
Speaker 1: And only sex Pistols album they ever produced, and being
Speaker 1: one of the most well known punk bands out there,
Speaker 1: as the sex Pistols. I grew up in the sex PiSZ.
Speaker 1: The album is called never Mind the Ballocks, which in
Speaker 1: It's funny because they could labeled that because it's stupid
Speaker 1: British terms. It just means never mind the bullshit.
Speaker 3: I know what it means, but everyone does.
Speaker 10: Johnny Rotten is talking all again talking about it's time
Speaker 10: for Billy's Got Beef with this fucking.
Speaker 1: Start a new thing.
Speaker 3: Billy's Got beef with you.
Speaker 1: Beef would be a great uh, you should start doing that.
Speaker 3: Billy's got beef with It's like, you know what really grinds.
Speaker 1: My Billy's got beef this guy. Now, okay, we started
Speaker 1: Billy's fun fact with him sleeping with his eyes open
Speaker 1: literally like two and a half three years ago. All right,
Speaker 1: now we'll we'll do Billy's got up. Billy's got beef.
Speaker 3: Billy's got beef.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gonna make a lot of enemies, all right, fucking
Speaker 4: like honestly, Like, so I get along with Irish people
Speaker 4: really well. I don't know why, Like all Irish people,
Speaker 4: like most Irish people are dicks.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, though I really enjoy the presence.
Speaker 3: I really enjoy hanging around with Irish people.
Speaker 4: Irish people, do you know, I actually know a fuck load,
Speaker 4: Like I know a lot, but that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: So you know who Irish.
Speaker 4: People have the beef with the most Grits and Scottish Brits.
Speaker 4: They hate British people more than anything, and so do I.
Speaker 3: Fucking you pretentious fox, grow up, grow up.
Speaker 4: You are not better than everybody else, holy shit, or
Speaker 4: Kansas people are better than you. For fox sakes. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what's not You just moved off a spot
Speaker 4: like fuck your sister.
Speaker 3: That's fine. Least at least you don't fucking pretend like
Speaker 3: you're better than everybody else. And you know what it is,
Speaker 3: it's it. It's this is Billy's beef time. I get heated.
Speaker 1: Beef time now McDonald's commercial.
Speaker 3: You ever wanted, you ever wanted tom know what a
Speaker 3: quarter pound of Billy's beef taste. But like, honestly, I have.
Speaker 4: Met a couple of British people in my life, not
Speaker 4: not a lot in mind that I did enjoy hanging around.
Speaker 4: And they're like, and you know, every British person I've enjoyed,
Speaker 4: you know, every every British person I've ever enjoyed, like
Speaker 4: hanging around.
Speaker 3: Like, I've met.
Speaker 4: A lot of people in my life, Like I was
Speaker 4: literally like in the service industry for years. You meet
Speaker 4: a lot of different people. And the only British people
Speaker 4: I enjoy are people that hate their own people. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm British, Yeah, I'm well aware of how everybody else acts.
Speaker 4: I don't act. I was like, I fucking like you,
Speaker 4: and it's like.
Speaker 3: Why do you got to act? Like that, why why
Speaker 3: why can't you just grow just grow up? People?
Speaker 4: Are people just fucking grow up? There's Billy's Beef for
Speaker 4: the day, and we lost seven more listeners.
Speaker 1: Tomcats beef is with nobody but the vaccinated.
Speaker 3: I'm just joking. There's way more listeners than the gone.
Speaker 1: Just joking. Billy's vaccinating my fucking family's vaccination, me and
Speaker 1: my girlfriend and her mother, and we're gonna stand strong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to go to Cuba.
Speaker 1: I know she's a sad, sad thing, like I might
Speaker 1: die in five years if the conspiracy theories are true,
Speaker 1: but hey, I get to experience yo.
Speaker 3: To be fair, at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 3: pretty confident that most of us like don't really care
Speaker 3: for that. At this point. I know I'd be I'd
Speaker 3: be all right whatever.
Speaker 1: Hopefully Phil never listens to this. This guy I work with,
Speaker 1: his fat old boy name.
Speaker 3: I come, Phil, Oh, you didn't have to listen to
Speaker 3: the name of the.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Collins Shepherd boy. And he's like, I was like
Speaker 1: joking with a vaccine ship and he's like, he's like, whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it past through in age anyway.
Speaker 1: And I was like you just made this conversation real.
Speaker 3: Dude is sure. Honestly, I think that's why there's so
Speaker 3: much compliance in a sense where like everyone's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: if I died.
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in communism, so I'd rather die.
Speaker 8: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll agree, and so kill myself.
Speaker 1: Spring heel Jack. Essentially he harassed, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: kill myself, raps the mailman. Uh call one eight hundred.
Speaker 1: Don't kill yourself, billy, so.
Speaker 3: We can kill ourselves.
Speaker 1: And they tried to convict essentially this guy that the
Speaker 1: whole investigation were like, who is this Raypi Claude man?
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, maybe it's this guy, Captain Finch.
Speaker 1: He he looks a little rape. So he was convicted
Speaker 1: of two charges of assault against women, during which they
Speaker 1: said he was disguised in a skin coat, very strange
Speaker 1: and appeared at ballocks Hide, which is I think bulls hide.
Speaker 1: I would think a skull cap. So what gangst is
Speaker 1: way now essentially a bald cap. No, a skull cap.
Speaker 3: Oh, they said, I know what you said. I heard
Speaker 3: a skull cap.
Speaker 1: A skull cap is today, a skull cap is a
Speaker 1: fucking winter hat in the back, and then it was
Speaker 1: not completely different, in my opinion, got a mat. This motherfucker,
Speaker 1: whoever this guy is, whoever Captain Finch is, did wear
Speaker 1: animal hide. He had a skull cap, and he wore
Speaker 1: horns and a mask during his assaults.
Speaker 3: Probably because he was fucking outside and it was probably chilly.
Speaker 1: God damn rainy. It's always rainy in fucking England. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but man, that's why they're all so
Speaker 1: fucking depressed. So and then the legend was linked with
Speaker 1: the phenomenon of the Devil's Foot, which appeared in Devon
Speaker 1: in February eighteen fifty five. So there's there is so
Speaker 1: many reports. It's like we covered this on Honestly, if
Speaker 1: you're a true fan, it doesn't exist anymore. I got
Speaker 1: rid of it, ah damn, because this is uh as
Speaker 1: as much as it's a little sad. I got rid
Speaker 1: of a lot of episodes that Justin was on stop
Speaker 1: did you just pour your drink too heavy?
Speaker 3: I did, but it was but it stopped top So I.
Speaker 1: Had to logistically, I got rid of a lot of
Speaker 1: episodes with Justin on it, even if it was me
Speaker 1: and Billy, episodes that maybe we shouldn't have said some things.
Speaker 1: And we did talk about spring Hill jack literally like
Speaker 1: two and a half years ago. Do you remember that
Speaker 1: we were drunk?
Speaker 3: I remember it. I did.
Speaker 4: That's why when we came over to start this one,
Speaker 4: I was like, didn't we talk about that already?
Speaker 1: Well we didn't. I never knew half of the ship.
Speaker 1: How we had so many reports newspapers coming out of
Speaker 1: spring Hill Jackson, all these people talking about spring Hil Jackson.
Speaker 1: So in the beginning in the eighteen seventy spring Hill
Speaker 1: jack was reported again in several places distant from each other.
Speaker 1: In November eighteen seventy two, the News of the World
Speaker 1: What a Great.
Speaker 3: News News reported that I don't think.
Speaker 1: Pham was in a state of commotion owing to what
Speaker 1: is known as the Peckham Ghost. I'm asterious.
Speaker 3: Is that actually how you pronounce that?
Speaker 1: Yes, Peckham is it? No, it's it's it's peck and Ham.
Speaker 1: I guess Peckham is how the British say it. And
Speaker 1: i'm asterious figure quite alarming in appearance. The News pointed
Speaker 1: out that none other than Springhill Jack, terrified a past
Speaker 1: generation has come back to haunt them. Similar stories were published,
Speaker 1: UH and illustrated his It was literally called illustrated police news.
Speaker 1: So it's like the police are like, okay, so I
Speaker 1: saw this thing and just illustrate. You sit there and
Speaker 1: you draw photos of it. Knock knock the case. So okay,
Speaker 1: So okay, So I fighted Gross discussed so and so.
Speaker 1: They also reported this in April and May. In eighteen
Speaker 1: seventy three, it was reported that there were numerous sightings
Speaker 1: of the sheriff Field of the ghost of the Park Ghost,
Speaker 1: the park Ghost which locals also came to identifying as
Speaker 1: spring Hill Jack. So as much as people don't want
Speaker 1: to lay that there is, there is a lot of
Speaker 1: shit when it comes to spring Hill Jack. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the Aldershot incident.
Speaker 3: I wonder if like they're talking about the same person though.
Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: I know, and they don't know, right. And this is
Speaker 1: how we take things from England. We have a town
Speaker 1: called Paris. We have a big ass city called London
Speaker 1: in Ontario. And this is how we have things that
Speaker 1: are essentially corresponding with that canon names after our stupid
Speaker 1: homeland because we're still controlled by the Queen. Technically she
Speaker 1: is the monarchy and Canada still run under the Iran,
Speaker 1: under the crown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, under the Chinese, he.
Speaker 1: Does so alder Shots. This news was followed by report sightings,
Speaker 1: reported sightings and until August eighteen seventy seven, and one
Speaker 1: of the most notable reports about springdald Jack came from
Speaker 1: a group of soldiers of alder Shots and the barracks.
Speaker 1: The barracks of older Shots are the barracks. It was
Speaker 1: army military kidding Jesus. The story went on as follows.
Speaker 1: A century on duty don't know what a century is
Speaker 1: on the North Camps peered into the darkness.
Speaker 3: You say, you don't know what a century is, like.
Speaker 1: A century centry. Now it's s E N t R
Speaker 1: y man. We drink I smoked weed. I don't know
Speaker 1: everything in the moment that we're fucking looking in fucking
Speaker 1: reading about it. So and essentially, a soldier on duty
Speaker 1: at the North Camp peered into the darkness. His attention
Speaker 1: was attracted by a peculiar figure advancing towards him. He's like,
Speaker 1: this guy's coming on to me. The soldier issued a challenge,
Speaker 1: which went unheated. So, I don't know what the So
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, hey, what are you doing over there,
Speaker 1: and the guy's like, doesn't say ship. So it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, maybe I like this guy.
Speaker 3: I like this guy. This guy's my friend. He you
Speaker 3: won't come over for a beer.
Speaker 1: And then the figure came up beside him and delivered
Speaker 1: and figured him, delivered sick several slaps to the face.
Speaker 3: Oh, you just fucked him up.
Speaker 1: Stopped doing that.
Speaker 3: Oh, buddy, slaps central he slaps.
Speaker 1: He slapped this guy in the face a bunch of times.
Speaker 3: Do you matter?
Speaker 4: Get you know hunted masculating that is, you didn't get punched,
Speaker 4: you got slapped, and he couldn't stop him.
Speaker 3: He was slapping you over and over again, like.
Speaker 1: Guard bitch, A guy shot a guard shot at him,
Speaker 1: which no, and they had no visible effect.
Speaker 3: Guard shot at him, yeah, so they so he must
Speaker 3: have known him.
Speaker 1: So the soldiers standing there, guard noises him, okay, comes up.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, weird, and he's like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck you want? All of a sudden, somebody slap. He
Speaker 1: fucking slaps him, and then he shoots him, and the
Speaker 1: guard shoots at him, not that he doesn't seem faced.
Speaker 1: He keeps slapping him.
Speaker 3: I'm too busy to worry about this. Bullet right now.
Speaker 1: Luckily we have good microphones that don't attackt too much
Speaker 1: sound because the boys are going notts upstairs.
Speaker 3: On theether, they're fucking snapping, holy shit.
Speaker 1: Had no visible effects. Some sources claim that the soldier
Speaker 1: may fired blanks at him. It's like, but why would
Speaker 1: the soldier playing like, know what, look, I'm gonna scare
Speaker 1: him off my blanks. But we don't really keep live ammunition.
Speaker 1: We are britt and our bobbies do have no guns.
Speaker 1: They just have snipe stick to beat people. Keep your
Speaker 1: fucking guns because we could be fucked. But essentially because
Speaker 1: of Britain, right, the bobbies don't have guns either. They
Speaker 1: do in storage, but essentially, like you have a cop
Speaker 1: brigade that like, what's beat you with some batons? What
Speaker 1: are they gonna do against people with rocks? A thousand
Speaker 1: people have rocks against ten cops is not gonna go.
Speaker 3: Well, so.
Speaker 1: They say maybe the fire blanks. Other witness said he fired,
Speaker 1: and of course you because now you're vaccinated, you're never
Speaker 1: gonna have kids.
Speaker 3: I beat a lot. That's good, dude.
Speaker 1: I don't kind to pull out anymore.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a bonus. I didn't but now I
Speaker 3: can just come and everybody, that's pretty You know what
Speaker 3: I meant, whether I'm miss in this bottle is gonet episode.
Speaker 1: So they also said that maybe he misfired or it
Speaker 1: was the warning shot. The strange figure then reappeared in
Speaker 1: like a surrounding darkness. It was weird.
Speaker 3: They're like, what the fuck's going on?
Speaker 1: Then another story in Lord Easton Hamilton's in nineteen twenty two,
Speaker 1: like years later I supposed to be a memoir forty
Speaker 1: years later, mentions the older shot appearance of spring Hill Jack.
Speaker 1: However he appeared and maybe it says that in the
Speaker 1: winter of eighteen seventy nine, after his regiment, another soldier
Speaker 1: sixth the sixtieth rifle that pardon repeat that, the sixtieth rifles?
Speaker 3: Why was that so hard? Why do you have to
Speaker 3: exagerate that? I really hope people saw that on Live
Speaker 3: on all that. I love that tongue to do that again.
Speaker 1: And it was similar in appearance. But they're saying that
Speaker 1: essentially don't know that he's appearing now at essentially a
Speaker 1: military bases. And they even said that other regiments saw
Speaker 1: him in the barracks of Cold Chesters.
Speaker 3: The bollocks of Colchester and.
Speaker 1: Winter of eighteen seventy six where they they saw some
Speaker 1: sort of strange creature, some strange man he had that
Speaker 1: the panic became so great that elder shot. Some of
Speaker 1: the military were issued ammunition in order to shoot the
Speaker 1: night terror.
Speaker 4: What do you mean issued ammunition that they only get
Speaker 4: You walked around with a gun, but you weren't allowed
Speaker 4: bullets unless there was a threat.
Speaker 1: Exactly what That's how Britain fucking works. Man.
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, you guys got a couple of bullets.
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: So happens today, Well, they're walking around with muskets. Military
Speaker 1: has only issued so many amount of bullets.
Speaker 9: What was what was the gun back then? It was muskets, right,
Speaker 9: it was yeah, pump it yeah, close it was. They
Speaker 9: had so they saw the threat. Rifles, they saw the threat.
Speaker 4: They told him to wait right there fucking seconds.
Speaker 1: They didn't have muskets. They had they did have rifles.
Speaker 1: They were just the cockback very take a long time too.
Speaker 3: Or it wouldn't have been that long. It's a single
Speaker 3: bolt rifle. It would have been just cack it back.
Speaker 3: You're good. It's like, what was past muskets? Muskets what
Speaker 3: was the first gun past a musket? I have no idea,
Speaker 3: very clueless on this.
Speaker 1: I'm also starting to feel my effects of the weed.
Speaker 1: I'm stone and I'm drinking.
Speaker 3: No, dude, I'm fucking loaded.
Speaker 4: Hamilton thought that, Oh you didn't know either, Okay, I
Speaker 4: just want to know if anyone knows, fucking tell me
Speaker 4: what was the first gun pasted a musket? I'm curious, like,
Speaker 4: was that a pistol? You think it's probably a pistol? No,
Speaker 4: it was probably a pistol. I'm assuming a pistol came
Speaker 4: before a rifle.
Speaker 3: No, maybe not. Rifles are bigger.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just don't fucking know. Tell me, educate me, love you, thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, educam me. And honestly, if I was sober, I
Speaker 1: could probably make a good guestimation.
Speaker 3: It's probably a rifle. You're probably right. I think a rifle.
Speaker 1: It's a rifle. It has to be a rifle. Put
Speaker 1: some fucking pellet, essentially, because it guess what a bullet
Speaker 1: was back then?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's a very powerful baby gun. Somebody to.
Speaker 1: Supposed to One of these sergeants thought that the appearance
Speaker 1: of the springhiel jack at these military bases was a
Speaker 1: natural prank carried up in one of his fellow officers,
Speaker 1: maybe a lieutenant Alfrey. His name is Alfrey. Okay, so
Speaker 1: everyone knows something's happening. They're like springhiel jack is is
Speaker 1: terrorizing people. But in a military setting, they're like, it's
Speaker 1: gotta be someone playing a prank. So they the thinks
Speaker 1: maybe is lieutenant Alfrey.
Speaker 3: His name is Alfrey, literally lieutenant, and they think he's playing.
Speaker 1: Of him being court martialed or like, well, it's not
Speaker 1: him sotial. Essentially, you get kicked out, you get you
Speaker 1: essentially did something that it's the military standards.
Speaker 3: That means court ru means you got kicked out of
Speaker 3: the military. Okay, what do you mean essentially? It's it's that,
Speaker 3: it's it's so why'd you say essentially then?
Speaker 1: Because I always essentially I said, I'm guessing to an extent.
Speaker 3: Oh got you.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the honesty.
Speaker 4: I think that, in my opinion, no fuck up, that
Speaker 4: that was awesome, That that was nice honesty right there,
Speaker 4: It means I say essentially because I don't quite know,
Speaker 4: but I'm pretty sure I know that's nice.
Speaker 1: I like it that you went in front of a
Speaker 1: court of a military court setting. Okay, and you did
Speaker 1: something that was against their standards, so you get court
Speaker 1: marsh Essentially you get still paid.
Speaker 3: Oh damn, I get court marcials.
Speaker 1: But then let's go I go home.
Speaker 3: Get paid and not have to die from the country.
Speaker 1: In Lincolnshire, in autumn of eighteen seventy seven, springhiel Jack
Speaker 1: was probably seen in Newport arc And, Lincoln Lincolnshire, wearing
Speaker 1: a sheepskin out of condom, and angry mobs were gross.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, they supportably. They supposedly chased him and cornered him.
Speaker 1: They cornered springhel Jack just as they did an alder shot.
Speaker 1: They tried to and the residents fired at him, shot
Speaker 1: at him, but no effect as usual. He said to
Speaker 1: have made a leap. That is so incredible. The crowd
Speaker 1: was shocked and he disappeared once again. Just look at
Speaker 1: all he literally they would shoot at him, wouldn't affect him,
Speaker 1: They would not him. They literally he just didn't even flinch.
Speaker 3: With the.
Speaker 4: There are people now, Tody that can take tasers and
Speaker 4: not even fucking like that.
Speaker 1: One dude, he like walked towards the cops.
Speaker 4: I fuck you and he's been tasted by three different
Speaker 4: tasers at once, and he's just like, what's up?
Speaker 1: So Liverpool. By the end of the nineteenth century, the report, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they report sightings of spring Hill Jack. He is in
Speaker 1: every different century, five ten years, He's just appearing everywhere,
Speaker 1: and he's moving towards West England.
Speaker 4: I think people were back then without the internet. Okay,
Speaker 4: here's the biggest thing too. Could you imagine not having
Speaker 4: internet and somebody was actually athletic?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: True, and you're like, wow, he jumps like a monster.
Speaker 4: And I'm still honestly, I swear to god, I think
Speaker 4: like it started off as a joke, but I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure spring Hill Jack was just somebody that was really
Speaker 4: good at high jumps.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love this. I love the street names bro
Speaker 1: because he supposedly appeared in uh Sulisbury, Oh, Salisbury, Salisbury,
Speaker 1: not in Salisbury Steak, I'm not my dad Salisbury. In
Speaker 1: nineteen oh four, the reports of appearances near Williams.
Speaker 3: Street, Williams ste Billy, Let's get the explanation. Okay, love
Speaker 3: to hear this.
Speaker 1: This vast urban legend built around spring Hill Jack influenced
Speaker 1: many aspects of Victorian life, especially in like essentially pop
Speaker 1: culture of what would come so for decades, especially in London,
Speaker 1: his name was kind of he was like the boogie man,
Speaker 1: right as means of scaring children into telling them to
Speaker 1: behave they were not good. Spring heel Jack and bite too,
Speaker 1: my leap and peer into their lives. And so if
Speaker 1: you're just like bag like spring hel Jack's gonna come
Speaker 1: again you He's gonna touch your dick. Probably spring hil
Speaker 1: Jack would then leap and peer into your window, and
Speaker 1: if you've done something bad, he might look in. Investigators
Speaker 1: have dismissed these stories of spring Hill Jackets mass hysteria,
Speaker 1: which developed around various stories of the boogieman or the devil,
Speaker 1: which appeared around for centuries, almost exaggerating the urban myth
Speaker 1: about a man who maybe went over rooftops claiming the
Speaker 1: devil was chasing him, like you know how, and you
Speaker 1: always got to make the kids fearful. You always got
Speaker 1: scary kids and doing much right in some weird ways.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, whether it be a belt or crampis or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, crampis, he'll drown your in a bathtub and ripe
Speaker 1: you're a little.
Speaker 4: Ask can I tell you? Actually A quick funny fact
Speaker 4: on that. I was at the bar, like a year
Speaker 4: ago after we did the Crampis episode. Somebody at the
Speaker 4: bar when I used to work at the bar, somebody
Speaker 4: at the bar started talking about Crampis and like, I
Speaker 4: intervened in this thing because they were having like a
Speaker 4: little argument at the bar.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever told you this.
Speaker 4: They're having a little argument at the bar, and I
Speaker 4: like intervened and I was like, no, well he did this.
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, they started talking. Then I kept talking.
Speaker 4: They're like and Buddy just like put down his beer.
Speaker 4: He's like, why do you know so much about Crampis?
Speaker 4: He's like, why are you so educated on this weird
Speaker 4: ass fucking thing. Because I have a fucking fucked up friend.
Speaker 1: I have a fucked up friend that likes buckets, but
Speaker 1: essentially like two. That's why I was debating of redoing episodes,
Speaker 1: and ie fans to chime in, and there was a
Speaker 1: fan that said keep the originals, don't fuck with them,
Speaker 1: which I agree with. We covered Crampus and I was
Speaker 1: debating on doing it again in years to come and
Speaker 1: this year, next year, the year after, and people and like,
Speaker 1: even you said keep that because if you go back
Speaker 1: and listen to the Crampis episode, because even Anton was like,
Speaker 1: you guys, we could do Crampus or whatever, and I
Speaker 1: was like, we covered. He's like, I thought you guys did,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, you don't remember. He's like, oh, listen,
Speaker 1: you guys were fucking two years, three years. I don't
Speaker 1: fuck remember that begin. We started slow when episodes released,
Speaker 1: like everything, yeah, two to three months, and it was
Speaker 1: not that far dude, that was over every weekend, and
Speaker 1: so Crampis was a I think hilarious as we were
Speaker 1: drunk and really kept reminiscing how Crampus was probably a rapist.
Speaker 3: So I don't even remember those episodes. I love to
Speaker 3: listen to myself three years ago and be like, wow,
Speaker 3: I've done it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I've had to delete certain episodes and
Speaker 1: we'll be coming back with. Actually one of our most
Speaker 1: download episodes ever, that was I think, no, we've done that,
Speaker 1: it's good.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, that was our most downloaded episode ever.
Speaker 1: One of our most download episodes was with Justin and
Speaker 1: we were very intoxicated. I'm not going to say I'll
Speaker 1: tell you after because.
Speaker 3: The fans will curious.
Speaker 1: So I those other researchers. They want to figure out
Speaker 1: what the origins of spring Hill Jack, Like, who is
Speaker 1: doing this? So spring probably wildly considered, I.
Speaker 3: Should have been on that team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, budd, he's good a high jump and they'd be like, Wow,
Speaker 4: we have a whole different section to fucking research rates.
Speaker 1: So the supernatural creature rather one of persons maybe with
Speaker 1: a weird sense of humor and like to peer through
Speaker 1: bedroom windows. But no knew he was was that gay?
Speaker 1: You can be straight and peer through bedroom windows.
Speaker 3: I didn't say he was gay, like he was gay?
Speaker 10: Wildly spect sorry LATIVIDA.
Speaker 1: Speculative paranormal explanations have been proposed to explain explain the
Speaker 1: origin of spring Hill Jack, including he was an extra
Speaker 1: extra No, he was an extraterrestrial creature. I tried entity.
Speaker 4: I tried to say that word too, and like I
Speaker 4: was about too and I was like, oh, I can't
Speaker 4: say it any better than.
Speaker 3: No speculator, speculator runk.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be supposed to be this Maybe what
Speaker 1: is this? This entity? This this figure who is maybe
Speaker 1: superhuman and has agility deriving from a life in a
Speaker 1: high gravity world. Is one of the explanations is that
Speaker 1: spring Hill Jack is essentially from a different dimension and
Speaker 1: that or a different planet where gravity is essentially it's
Speaker 1: a high gravity world where you could just slightly jump
Speaker 1: and you would be you would travel. That's one of
Speaker 1: the explanations.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, fuck dude, my explanation is better with his high.
Speaker 1: Jumping ability and strange behavior. Maybe he was a demon
Speaker 1: or accidentally or purposefully summoned into this world by practitioners
Speaker 1: of the occult.
Speaker 3: It was Michael Jordan's old persona. But then he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play basketball this time.
Speaker 1: You know, Michael Jordan's a fucking piece of shit. Ever
Speaker 1: heard that He's like one of the biggest assholes. He's
Speaker 1: like a really not a fucking nice person. You ever
Speaker 1: heard about that he's a dick.
Speaker 3: Well, you can make names on any single person, but
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's been world renowned as being one of the
Speaker 3: nicest fucking celebrities in the world.
Speaker 1: That is actual, Like google it right now, Yes, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you'll find stories about him being one
Speaker 1: of the biggest assholes.
Speaker 4: He finds any video, I'm telling you, and then hold
Speaker 4: on one second, you can find no I want you
Speaker 4: to find me a video, because what I can tell
Speaker 4: you is you can find thousands, if not hundreds of
Speaker 4: thousands videos where he doesn't know.
Speaker 3: He's being recorded being very fucking nice to people.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you heard this from.
Speaker 3: I have a huge Michael Jordan fan.
Speaker 1: I've known you for fucking my whole life.
Speaker 3: And you know how many copies of Space jam I've
Speaker 3: thought he's Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, he's in a fucking stupid Disney movie.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I'm just saying you just said.
Speaker 3: I'm not a Michael Jordan fan. You know why I've
Speaker 3: bought in Space jamp so many times?
Speaker 1: Ten incidents is of Michael Jordan being just plain mean?
Speaker 3: I go to that?
Speaker 1: Or how about people on Reddit? Is Michael Jordan really
Speaker 1: that bad of a person? How about Michael Jordan was
Speaker 1: just a jerk? Say says teammates. Why it helped is
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's asshole in real life? Michael Jordan is exactly
Speaker 1: who I thought he was, an asshole, the great asshole fallacy,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, The Last Dance. What Michael Jordan's documentary doesn't
Speaker 1: ask about his asshole behavior? I'm telling you that's not
Speaker 1: sure he thinks he said, Yo, Michael Jordan was a jerk,
Speaker 1: So question mark.
Speaker 3: Okay, how about how about yo, hey, chill out.
Speaker 4: Before you just start fucking reading Google, I want you
Speaker 4: to name one person that you idolize that you don't
Speaker 4: think is a jerk.
Speaker 3: Who do you not think is a jerk?
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon?
Speaker 3: Now I want you to google. I want you to.
Speaker 4: Google is Jimmy Fallon a jerk? And watch how many
Speaker 4: fucking articles come up. You can google whatever the fuck
Speaker 4: you want for whatever purpose you want, and you're gonna
Speaker 4: find the reason and the answer that you want.
Speaker 3: If you google, Go Google. No. Here, here's a good example.
Speaker 3: I want you to google. Does Tim Horton's coffee makes
Speaker 3: you blind?
Speaker 4: You're gonna find undreds, hundreds and thousands of articles, hundreds
Speaker 4: and thousands of articles that go Tim Horton's coffee fucking
Speaker 4: will kill your repticism. And then if you google it
Speaker 4: in a way that goes does it is it true
Speaker 4: that Tim Horton's coffee makes you blind? And you're gonna
Speaker 4: find thousands of articles that go there are know at
Speaker 4: all studies show you that that makes you mind.
Speaker 1: One fact that people know is Michael Jordan is an asshole.
Speaker 1: Anyone that's a sports like.
Speaker 3: This is the thing, though, you no, but this is
Speaker 3: the thing. Okay, you know what, You're probably right. You're right.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying. Your roommates on.
Speaker 1: His team on the Bulls said he was a fucking
Speaker 1: dick and he was one of the worst people to
Speaker 1: play with because he was such an asshole. One thing
Speaker 1: I hate sports, and one thing I know is Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan was an asshole, and so was Wayne Gretzky. Fuck
Speaker 1: you Gretzky.
Speaker 4: I know Gretzky personally, but anyways, I'm actually not kidding.
Speaker 4: I okay, he's not a best friend of mine. I said,
Speaker 4: I know him personally.
Speaker 1: Did you call him on the weekend?
Speaker 3: What do you do? We wait, wait a minute, We've
Speaker 3: talked about this, right. You know why, I know when
Speaker 3: Gretzky personally right.
Speaker 1: Best friends with his dad. No, you helped Walter through
Speaker 1: his his time of dementia before Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: No, Jamie's best friends Gretzky's nephew. Yes, so we went
Speaker 4: over there a lot. I know his sister, I know
Speaker 4: his brother. I served his brother almost every day at
Speaker 4: fucking the bar. I worked at his brother's and alcoholic.
Speaker 4: If anybody else wants to know when his brother is
Speaker 4: a fucking hardcore alcoholic, did.
Speaker 1: We do get an argument? No? No, no, Actually I
Speaker 1: know that Michael Jordan was known as a dick.
Speaker 3: You still haven't let me finish. No.
Speaker 4: This is the biggest thing, though, is people I didn't.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he was a dick to a lot of people.
Speaker 4: My thing is is no, no, no, no, I've never
Speaker 4: met Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 4: I'm saying in a sense where if if we went
Speaker 4: out right now, like let's say we were famous at
Speaker 4: our platform right now, people will call us both dicks.
Speaker 4: Now out of this, would you call me a dick
Speaker 4: in like general public, like to an average person, like the.
Speaker 1: Body I co host with my podcast is an asshole?
Speaker 3: Like actual kidding?
Speaker 4: Like like actually though, like, would you think I would
Speaker 4: actually go out and be like wow, like everyone's like wow,
Speaker 4: that guy is a fucking bag. No, but that's the
Speaker 4: same thing, though, No, that's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is famously known for being an asshole.
Speaker 3: I'm well aware, but why not no claim that he wasn't.
Speaker 3: I am, but they don't know what an asshole.
Speaker 1: Is this it's something in between your ass cheeks that
Speaker 1: produces poopoo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got one of them too, right, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: but actually no, like this, this is a big problem,
Speaker 3: and this does need to be addressed.
Speaker 5: But like in a way that Michael Jordan isn't an
Speaker 5: asshole in my mind now, because you know what, he
Speaker 5: was a great player, but a shitty golf player and
Speaker 5: a shitty fucking what else do you play bass?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was all true, number ship.
Speaker 3: Actually I heard he was getting pretty good at golf.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You only know that because fucking moaning tunes.
Speaker 3: All right, it's not as dude, you're not. You just
Speaker 3: went on your ramp, but he didn't let the actual
Speaker 3: factory center.
Speaker 1: Asshole.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna feel like an idiot.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Now, I want you to picture anybody that's a good
Speaker 4: like Okay, I don't I know. You don't play sports,
Speaker 4: so you don't understand what the team mentality is maid.
Speaker 1: Soccer, oh okay, ball, basketball, okay?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I said, okay, so you understand
Speaker 3: what team mentality is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you understand that the best player on your
Speaker 4: team is me, is driven to make the rest of
Speaker 4: their team perform better.
Speaker 3: Now is that going to come in?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was a dick during every moment
Speaker 1: of his life, during when he was famous, and he
Speaker 1: still is. Okay, these are fucking actual articles produced by
Speaker 1: people that know him that said he is a fucking asshole. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've argued for fucking fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: No, we haven't argued. You've just been freaking out not
Speaker 3: listening to the other side.
Speaker 1: You're trying to defend someone.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not, Hey, Billy, you're not listening.
Speaker 1: I ask question.
Speaker 8: I love this.
Speaker 4: I can't wait till you hear this back of like
Speaker 4: how you don't let anyone talk but like you think
Speaker 4: like you know what they're gonna say, but you don't.
Speaker 1: This is why Anton, thank you for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 4: I want you to come on ants on and like
Speaker 4: actually fucking just by those because I've been trying to
Speaker 4: say this one point, but you have not let me point. Okay,
Speaker 4: when somebody's at that high performing of a level and
Speaker 4: they want the rest of their team to perform, they're
Speaker 4: going to be hard on them, and you're going to
Speaker 4: act like a dickhead when they're not fucking performing. You
Speaker 4: know how many times I've walked into my office and
Speaker 4: screamed at my guys because they're fucking around, because they're
Speaker 4: not doing shit, because I need them to start fucking working.
Speaker 4: But on that outside of situation, those guys work with me.
Speaker 4: They work with me personally. Hell, if they wrote an
Speaker 4: argument or if they wrote an article, they'd probably be like,
Speaker 4: I bet Billy fucking mugs old ladies. But they don't
Speaker 4: because that's because it's outside of work.
Speaker 1: People on his team, people on his team has called
Speaker 1: them an asshole. Yes, I'm telling people outside of his
Speaker 1: team and that Michael Jordan was known as one of
Speaker 1: the most asshole people in sports entertainment.
Speaker 3: I think you're getting Michael Jordan mixed up with Kobe.
Speaker 3: I'm not because.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm wrong. Fucking Billy's right, fucking the facts will prevail,
Speaker 1: and the facts are Michael Jordan was a fucking asshole
Speaker 1: and always will be.
Speaker 3: Read your Wikipedia page again.
Speaker 1: Wikipedia is edited by fucking idiots.
Speaker 3: Exactly, all right. So whatever fact to spring real. Jackie
Speaker 3: got me heated.
Speaker 1: We me, me and Billy. I've been friends for far
Speaker 1: too long.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that argument should keep funny,
Speaker 3: you know it was.
Speaker 1: It was interesting that our podcast will be fucking two
Speaker 1: hours a very variety of wild speculations, as we said,
Speaker 1: explaining the origins of the Jack and who he was
Speaker 1: as an extraterrestrial entity. Maybe he's from another planet. Maybe
Speaker 1: he jumps and he's super human from a world that
Speaker 1: doesn't have that has high gravity. Yes, strange behavior, but
Speaker 1: all those weird things about the doing relating to the cult.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's all these weird things where even
Speaker 1: Lauren Coleman and Jerome Clark lists spring Hil Jack in
Speaker 1: a category named Phantom Attackers, which actually weirdly brings it back.
Speaker 1: Let's go way way back, only a couple of minds
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks for another well known being. We
Speaker 1: Me and Anton talked about the Mad Gaster of Madtune,
Speaker 1: which in the nineteen forties, this guy went around in
Speaker 1: a tightly skinned leather outfit and pumped gas into people's
Speaker 1: homes and left them disabled. They never died, but people
Speaker 1: just passed out during literally.
Speaker 3: It was just a yeah.
Speaker 1: Just after World War Two, it was like nineteen forty five,
Speaker 1: forty thirty six, people were just disabled in their homes.
Speaker 1: People would smell this weird odor and they would get
Speaker 1: up and they would be disabled by they would just
Speaker 1: like couldn't move their arms and legs. So it's weird
Speaker 1: that they're relating, which I even said earlier, it's so
Speaker 1: weird to another Jack, another another person, the mad Gasser
Speaker 1: of Matune and another phantom attacker. But this person came
Speaker 1: into homes and similarly pinned people and made them into
Speaker 1: a gave them paralysis. So nobody really knows who Springhel
Speaker 1: Jack was. Even many reports can readily be explained psychologically,
Speaker 1: most notably when you talked about we talk about member
Speaker 1: ghost experiences and the shadow people. Remember the shadow of people?
Speaker 1: Have someone talking about the old hag who stood on
Speaker 1: your chest?
Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: And you couldn't really breathe and you would get these
Speaker 1: paranormal experiences of this creature and you couldn't breathe and
Speaker 1: you had to sleep. Paralysis. It's also kind of related
Speaker 1: to spring Hill Jack kind of just leaves you incapacitated.
Speaker 1: Is that a word?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And that terrorized?
Speaker 3: Okay, I like how you're worried about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 3: It isn't work. No, it's a word though, yes, it's
Speaker 3: time for.
Speaker 8: Billions fun back that day.
Speaker 4: According to Billy's Fun Facts of the Day, everybody who
Speaker 4: ever fucking performed on the ninety five Chicago Bulls thought
Speaker 4: highly of.
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, John Joe. Don't do this to be fair
Speaker 3: that that that's fact. No, dude, this is sick. You
Speaker 3: know The Terminator?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love the Terminator.
Speaker 3: You know how much that movie sold for? Like the
Speaker 3: rights to that movie two hundred bucks one dollar?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: The Terminators, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton, earned a
Speaker 4: worldwide total of seventy eight point three million at the
Speaker 4: box office in nineteen eighty four. As it went on
Speaker 4: to the franchise took over one point four billion. Fucking
Speaker 4: bad for a movie that sold for a buck. Before
Speaker 4: James Cameron became famous for directing blockbusters titles like Titanic
Speaker 4: and Avatar, he was just an unknown filmmaker. I knew
Speaker 4: that with an ambitious idea. In order to get his
Speaker 4: movie made, he handed over the rights to the script
Speaker 4: for a token amount on the terms that he would
Speaker 4: be allowed to direct the movie despite event uh eventful,
Speaker 4: event eventual, that's the word I'm trying to say success
Speaker 4: on the project. Cameron later admitted that he regrets the
Speaker 4: decision to sell such a valuable story for such a
Speaker 4: low amount, saying, I wish I hadn't sold the rights
Speaker 4: for one dollar. If I had a little if I
Speaker 4: had a little time machine I could take. If I
Speaker 4: had a little time machine and I could only send
Speaker 4: back something the length of a tweet, it'd be don't sell.
Speaker 1: That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: He it saying, just let me direct it. But isn't
Speaker 3: that crazy? Like you sold something, it made a lot
Speaker 3: of money, but you were just like, I want to
Speaker 3: be part of it. And it's still credit. And then
Speaker 3: he went off to do that because he got that
Speaker 3: fucking credit. He got credit.
Speaker 1: That was it for doing this movie, because.
Speaker 3: And he sold his credit for one point four billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Another fun fact, isn't that nuts Terminator two was far
Speaker 1: better than the original.
Speaker 4: Still I'm still I'm still saying that that Terminators sold
Speaker 4: for one point four billion, And.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's crazy, right, you think about that, that
Speaker 1: you create a film essentially and that T two is
Speaker 1: as now it's gone, is now known, there's three four
Speaker 1: five six, there's a.
Speaker 3: Buck Oh I meant like actual good.
Speaker 1: But T two was great. Man, that's with fucking one
Speaker 1: of my favorite actors.
Speaker 3: Man, Oh damn fuck, there's problems upstairs. My dog's all right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael Jordan's best, alright, go.
Speaker 8: Fund yourself, stupid, Get a fly by.
Speaker 11: Droo a Colosi of the view, give me them one
Speaker 11: Too's in the black and Blue and the craft that
Speaker 11: new second around till leave you for Daska, fur me pounds.
Speaker 1: I'm like fuck that you know him all the kidding.
Speaker 1: It's always a good sign when you hang it with Ellie.
Speaker 4: Until it brings too much wine and starts talking about
Speaker 4: a lily.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, it's just a make You can
Speaker 1: see that ship from out of the space. It's like
Speaker 1: an ass brunt just hit her face. But of god,
Speaker 1: opposite one's never hurt us. You got the black coy,
Speaker 1: but you have the per Ziller right inside. And it's
Speaker 1: way too late walking home.
Speaker 12: I can't feel my face always jump, and he feel
Speaker 12: so great right outside, and it's way too late walking home.
Speaker 12: I can't feel my face always don't, and he feel
Speaker 12: so great.
Speaker 1: Zucker toes in Baghetta.
Speaker 11: Folks don't win knows that, like you said, you actually
Speaker 11: expose your brain and fat into the black crows.
Speaker 1: I'll close down door.
Speaker 11: When you're laying dead, I'll go get a rope coat
Speaker 11: hang instead, hang ahead, slid through what choke game and
Speaker 11: lad brain dead and you.
Speaker 1: Stay safe in your homestead. And I stayed stone and
Speaker 1: stand and always will. You're stolen still and this is
Speaker 1: all the shrills. I hope you are a killed. When
Speaker 1: we spoke, I wouldn't costs killed now they don't you
Speaker 1: come to.
Speaker 13: The smaller bills, slippery slope, fab through the moss bills.
Speaker 13: I haven't different approach super monstrous hip coke and never.
Speaker 1: Swallow mills, get choked all for a deal if you
Speaker 1: get a real We're out in Simon. It's way too late.
Speaker 3: Walk in home.
Speaker 12: I can't feel my face always stunt and it feels
Speaker 12: so grain. We're at in Simon, it's way too lade.
Speaker 12: Walk in home, my dad feel my face always? Don't
Speaker 12: they feel so grain?
Speaker 13: Your death would be a great Andrea, Well, let's see
Speaker 13: the hate that exists to me. You won't persistently live
Speaker 13: these FICTIONI no beliefs and telling you're life it's a
Speaker 13: living dead seat. And I'm still with the knife walking
Speaker 13: in and get you say, little beef on the rail,
Speaker 13: Knight's cooking for the druskin.
Speaker 1: The eats isn't a leaf too good?
Speaker 11: I'm not literally if I'm when you hit the lips,
Speaker 11: sitting in the mystical funk, and if I'm not gotten?
Speaker 1: But who is the last time you been to a
Speaker 1: rent submission? Clueless?
Speaker 3: On?
Speaker 1: Ain't that cute, bitch?
Speaker 13: And I know you're fucking strupid. And I know a
Speaker 13: fifth grader that's smarter than you is. By this age,
Speaker 13: you should know you're not smart.
Speaker 8: Dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna argue right out.
Speaker 1: Simon's way too late walking home.
Speaker 12: I can't feel my face always don't it feels so great?
Speaker 8: Right in?
Speaker 12: Simon is way too late to walking home. I can't
Speaker 12: feel my face always don't feel so great.
Speaker 11: Reason that the girls liked me was they liked my
Speaker 11: hum said, we check you down here to Beverly Hills,
Speaker 11: and we want to get you in because you're a star.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm a.
Speaker 3: Boy, it's you're a star. And I went and I
Speaker 3: got on a certain board, and I.
Speaker 12: Rode around, and I looked, and I said, Jude, where.
Speaker 1: The chief got sols? This is more This is more
Speaker 1: trouble than what I just got out of