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Speaker 1: Tonight's guest, Daniel Hamilton Strange crypts before the.

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Speaker 2: Customer, looking back on the life that you leave him.

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Then resting home in the crowd, stick around through the

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create the feeling for the fire.

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Speaker 3: You'll be dancing around.

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Speaker 2: Only here is the sound of the treating, and no

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one cares where.

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Speaker 4: He's coming from. My ears are string and feeding.

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Speaker 2: I guess we are new from the start.

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Speaker 3: The other days not close. You know, one of these days.

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Speaker 5: Will be in the world.

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Speaker 6: You're looking for that answers who wanted sast.

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Speaker 4: These are the test, my cost.

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Speaker 7: My costa, leaning the fumes of the ashes, the spirits

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lap and looking down the lash.

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Speaker 8: We're life from the Untold Radio Network. It's Untold Radio

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AF with Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co

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host Jeff Pirella Jr. Untold Radio AM is going live

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right now. This show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep,

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that's the ticket.

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Speaker 1: Now Here are your Untold Radio A m posts, Doug

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high Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

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Speaker 4: Hello everyone, Hello, good evening, Jeff, good evening everybody. Yes,

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our Untoldians, what a beautiful evening tonight. So join the weather.

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I hope everybody's not listening to our podcast and just

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join the weather. Just kidding. It is nice.

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Speaker 9: It was like a day time.

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Speaker 4: Sixty nine today and sunny like there wasn't even a

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contrail in the sky. That was just a blue robin,

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blue skies all day. I never even saw yet or

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an airplane.

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Speaker 9: The windows all open and getting it was great.

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Speaker 4: Don't people fly on Sunday? It's like, what's going on? Anyhow?

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What do we got other than this? Definitely is for

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absolutely sure my favorite month. I don't know about you,

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but me, it's.

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Speaker 9: Just we really thought it and I like fall.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah I know, but everything goes from brown and

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greens and purples and blues and all the trees are flowered,

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and I mean it really is, because it's pretty dismal

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about you know, November, and then it gets even worse

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in the spring when the snow thaws out everything dirty

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looking and anyhow, now it's beautiful.

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Speaker 9: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what do we get going on tonight? We have

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Daniel Hamilton joining us, and we're going to talk about

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cryptids all over America. Yeah and yeah and the people

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that encounter them. So me and Daniel had lunch on

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remember what day. It was Saturday. We had lunch on Saturday.

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Of course, we picked the worst restaurant you could ever pick,

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right by the international soccer thing going on, and there's

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like one hundred thousand people in town right next to

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the restaurant that we picked. Two I'm not exaggerating, two

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and a half hours before we got our food. That

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was like what. But we went on. We went on

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the patio we weren't supposed to be at and we

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went on the patio and just you know, and enjoyed

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the sun and covered was quiet. Nobody was out there,

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so it was cool. So anyhow, that's what I did

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on Saturday, waiting for a burger. Oh okay, so we're

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gonna go down some some strange stuff and we talked

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a little bit about what we're gonna talk about tonight,

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so it will definitely be definitely So what do we got.

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We've got weird news, weird fact, weird fact. Is that

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worth even announcing the weird fact of the week. Yeah,

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it's true. It's kind of weird. And we've got clips tonight,

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clip picks, and we've got some other stuff. So you

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definitely don't want to stay tuned. Grab a chill beverage

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like Jeff as and I do I have. I'm on

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a dan. I'm on, Jeff, I've gotta drink. I've got

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to drink this. Some kids sugar tastes good, I guess,

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And I have my my water too. But you got

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it's a graphical beverage. Get a comfy chair, get something

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to keep you safe in the lights, and we'll get underway.

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Speaker 9: All right, some news.

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Speaker 4: It's time for weird and fast knees. And what could

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be weirder than scientists growing a mini I repeat many

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beating heart in a lab dish.

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Speaker 9: That's a terrible idea.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, what could be weirder than that? So apparently

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researchers have successfully grown a tiny, functional human heart like

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structure whatever that means, that actually beats using stem cells,

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unlike earlier organoids. Now have you ever heard of the

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word organoid?

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Speaker 9: Yes you did, Yeah, we talked about it last week.

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Speaker 4: We don't use here, not organoids. You probably call them

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organ pies or something.

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Speaker 9: Organ pies.

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, this one shows coordinated contractions in early chamber formations,

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basically a primitive heart in a dish. The goal isn't

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to create a full organ yet, but to study heart

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disease and test drugs in real human tissue without risk.

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grow parts of the human body that function on their own,

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which kind of feels like something straight out of science fiction.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I think it's a terrible idea. Yeah, what do

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Speaker 4: I did get invited once. I'm not gonna say by

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who to go into a lab and look at all

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of this organ's growing, And I went, I don't want to.

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Speaker 9: No, that's just.

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Speaker 4: One of the hour drive. And I'm like, nah, I'm

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gonna pass on that. I might have nightmares, but little

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beating hearts anyhow. And then next, which is totally unassociated

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with the little beating hearts in a dish, is humpback

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whales create a new type of bubble net. Have you

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ever seen this done.

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Speaker 9: Jeff, Yeah, I've seen. That's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: Like you're blown out cigars smokering, same thing, right.

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Speaker 9: They're hurting, hurting the kayat Pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Marine biologists just documented humpback whales using previously unseen

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hunting strategies. I know they've known about bubble rings. This

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is modifying their famous bubble net feeding technique. Some whales

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were observed coordinating in new patterns, almost like they were

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teaching and evolving tactics socially crazy. Now, this suggests whales

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intelligence is even more advanced than we thought. I think

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they're smarter than we are. Yeah, yeah, I mean think

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about it. Their brain's got a weigh like what two

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three hundred pounds? I want a brain that big could do? Okay,

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passing down knowledge, kind of like the Hunting playbook.

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Speaker 9: So cool, I think.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna try that in a swimming pool.

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Speaker 9: A bubble net, and I'll video. I'll put it on TikTok.

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Speaker 4: God. I remember those days where I had to go

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swimming all the time. I like swimming, but it's the

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thought of doing it and then you get it in here.

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I usually cold for a little while and then you

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do it. But gosh, my kids are all growing, but man,

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they like to swim.

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Speaker 4: All right. Next, nothing to do with bubble nets. Geologists

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are using advanced imaging techniques. They have discovered a previously

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unknown layer of magma deep beneath an active volcano vulcan

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volcanic region. This hidden reservoir wasn't detected before. It could

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change how scientists eruptions, which is good. We're still waiting

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for the the yellow Stone thing to kind of go. Goodoos.

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Maybe next time, beautiful place, I do too, Like God,

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I need to be there during an eruption. The discovery

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shows of volcanoes are far more complex than we once thought,

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more like multi level systems with backup fuel tanks. It's

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a reminder that even the ground under our feet still

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whole major secrets. And I'm gonna tell you, Jeff, if

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you could look directly below where you're sitting right now,

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and you would freak you out if you saw the

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caves and weird tunnels that are right below your feet.

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be gosh, who knows what could be in there. There

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could be Northern Pike.

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Speaker 9: So when they could be you never know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, The next story has nothing to do

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with magma nothing. Birds can see Earth's magnetic field. Now,

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we all kind of knew this that they were directed,

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you know, when they migrated, But apparently now they have

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figured out they can actually see it. They can see

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the magnetic fields. Scientists just confirm new details about how

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migratory birds navigate. They can actually visually perceive Earth's magnetic

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field using special protein in their eyes.

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Speaker 9: I've been working on it. I've been practicing on weekends,

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but I'm not quite there.

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Speaker 4: Instead of just sensing direction like a compass, birds may

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literally see patterns or a shading link to magnetic fields,

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guiding them across thousands of miles. So it's basically a

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built in GPS, but one that works through vision, not

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instinct alone. Now, remember, folks, we don't know if any

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of those crap's true. Do we know? We don't do

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your own.

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Speaker 9: We know birds migrate, No, I know.

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Speaker 4: That, but I'm just saying everything in this whole show,

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we don't know if it's true.

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Speaker 9: We could be full of crap.

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Speaker 4: It's literally for entertainment purposes. Yeah, exactly, this stuff isn't verified.

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I'm just a meat puppet reading this stuff.

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Speaker 9: It's conjecture, the hypoc Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So it's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's based on who knows all right, Next, the

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next story has nothing to do with birds, nothing at all,

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nothing at all. Researchers working in and Arctic permafrost have

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successful successfully revived ancient viruses that were frozen for tens

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of thousands of years. These so called zombie viruses, and

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I know we've talked about these before, were still infectious

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at least to a single cell organism. Look after being thought, yeah,

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they still would infect things. Ugh, it says. The concern

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isn't that these exact viruses will infect humans, but the

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climate change meltz permafrost, unknown ancient microbes could emerge naturally,

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and it's like opening a biological time capsule and nobody

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knows what's inside. And I'm sure that process has been

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going on for eons and eons and eons.

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Speaker 9: The Earth is always warming and cooling.

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Speaker 4: That's all always doing that.

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Speaker 9: Come on, where we sit right now is once worm

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because right where you're sitting and right where I'm sitting

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used to be a glacier. Yeah, mile thick ice right

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Speaker 4: Right where we are, which is how they formed all

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those creepy tunnels below your house, those big giant tunnels

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waiting to cave in m sink Could you imagine? Have

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you seen the sinkhole videos where people's floors have opened up?

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That one guy right sucked his bed in one night?

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Speaker 9: There was one in the Corvette Museum in Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all those corvettes. Just oh that was so weird.

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into a giant museum. Yeah, that's crazy. Did they ever retrieve.

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Speaker 9: Those some of them? I think a lot of them

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are just got destroyed, lost, no way, there's no way

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to get them out. Some historical stuff was lost. Pretty sad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then what do we gott next? And the

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next story doesn't have anything to do with zombie viruses.

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Speaker 9: Nothing, nothing, or bubbles.

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Speaker 4: Or bubbles or bird or birds or fake hearts. It

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has to do with astronomers that are now seeing evidence

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of the very possibly the very first stars ever formed

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in the Verse, hidden inside distant gas clouds. These stars

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could have existed just after the Big Big Bang, meaning

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they were basically looking back to the birth of light itself.

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It's no, it's like finding the universe's first spark plug.

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Speaker 9: Spark plug pretty amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's amazing to you.

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Speaker 9: It is. I love this stuff. This is our audience

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loves it interesting. I just I just love general science.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun. But once again, we don't know if

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any of this crap is true. We read yes, well, yeah,

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we're not only sharing what we're we're trying to paraphrase

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them shorten, so I don't boreo with a ten thousand ages.

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Speaker 9: We fly, Yeah, weirdly and fast?

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Speaker 4: Why we call it weird and fast? All right? The

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next has nothing to do with stars at all, or

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living hundreds of years just what we want to do.

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whales are uncovering genetic tricks that resist aging and disease.

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Some species repair DNA better to avoid cancer maintain cellular

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health for centuries that take away. Aging might be might

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not be inevitable. It might be that it can be

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biologically adjusted. And they are doing some amazing I just

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read an article that I'm going to read to you

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guys next about stem cell therapy on toughness to read. Yeah,

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I think so. And there's nothing to do with stars, DNA, birds,

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whale nets, or little creepy hearts.

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Speaker 9: Do you know much about greenland sharks though, they're amazing?

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Speaker 4: A lot about greenland sharks because you want to know why.

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I know a lot about greenland sharks because it was

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my crew that filmed the first greenland shark in a

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freshwater river way in the central part, like right in

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the middle of the United States North.

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Speaker 9: Wow. I did not know that. That's a.

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Speaker 4: Rip by a guy's wallleye dock.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're pretty amazing. Most of them are blind, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sure you because they get cataracts and gross.

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Speaker 9: Incredible. Yeah, got to slowly tool around and yeah, with

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a long time now.

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Speaker 4: These things have been swimming there since like the America

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was discovered.

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Speaker 9: It's crazy, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they don't really know. They think there could

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be greenland sharks that are over two thousand years old.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, some scientists suspect. Incredible.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Anyhow, the next article is about deafness reversed in

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ninety percent of patients. That's pretty cool that if true.

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In a breakthrough clinical trial, a gene therapy restored hearing

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in about ninety percent of patients with inherited deafness. Instead

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of hearing aids or implants, doctors delivered a corrected gene

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directly into the year. The result, patients who never heard

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sound suddenly could. Now that's not an improvement, that's a

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full sensory restor.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, my dad and I both have hearing losses. That

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would be amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just just this kind of stuff with the

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genes that I love it because it's not drugs. It's

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using your own bodies healing power to correct things. It's

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pretty cool, really cool.

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Speaker 9: Time for your weird fact.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that weird fact you're all excited about.

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Speaker 9: I like playing the sumper. What can I say? Oh?

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You do like that?

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Speaker 4: Law? Right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: It's now time for untold Radio weird Fact of the week.

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Speaker 9: That is kind of weird. All right, weird fact.

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Speaker 4: Somebody said that Monster wast episode rock that was great work. Yeah.

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People always go you never find anything, Well we.

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Speaker 9: Did, Yeah, you did lots of cool stuff anyhow.

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Speaker 4: Giant squid greenland sharks. Could you imagine though by Guy's

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Walleye fishing dock that is fresh water, just fishing walls.

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Speaker 9: I mean, sharks in fresh water alone is pretty rare.

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A greenland shark is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but think about this thing was huge.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: It was like seventeen feet long or some damn thing

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I can't remember.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're amazing, but it was kind of a historical first, Okay, purely.

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Speaker 4: The weird fact is that there are more lakes hidden

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under Antarctica than at all of North America. All that

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is actually pretty amazing because we have some pretty big lakes.

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I mean, if you empty lakes Superior, you'd have enough

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what three inches of water over all of North America.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a lot of water.

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Speaker 4: Which is insane, all right. Beneath miles of solid Antarctic ice,

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scientists have discovered over four hundred liquid lakes, not frozen,

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liquid lakes completely sealed off from the surf for millions

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and millions of years. They are not frozen. They are

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actually liquid water lakes kept from freezing by pressure in

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geothermal heat from the earth below. What's truly wild is

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that this stuff's under Jeff's house. Yeah. What's truly wild

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is that these lakes may contain entire ecosystems that we

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have known nothing about that have evolved in total isolation,

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meaning lifeforms could exist down there that have never seen

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sunlight ever, possibly unlike anything on Earth's surface. It's basically

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a hidden alien world right here on our planet and

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on Jeff's right below his house is studio. You keep

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looking down. Could happen?

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Speaker 9: Could happen?

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Speaker 4: I just, oh my god, I just saw a movie

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on Netflix called Libria about the Labria tar pits caving in.

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It's a big sinkhole and that kind of swallows part

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of la in there, and people fought you got to

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leave your brain in the on the codok right, Yeah,

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people fall through the hole and then land safely on

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grass and then their sabertoothed tigers and giant uh you know,

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giant condors and things that eat them, and I'm waiting.

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I just I had to shut it off after a while. Yeah, yeah,

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when the sabertooth attacks them or no, well, a dire

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wolf attacked a kid. So if you want to it's

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good special effects. I guess I think.

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Speaker 9: Some clips.

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Speaker 4: Uh did I even? Yeah? I did finish the lake thing,

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but the four hundred Secret Lakes what's cool is they

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could they can study either evolution or lack of evolution,

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because these things all would have all separately because they're

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they're they're not connected, so you would learn a lot.

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There's no interconnection, but is maybe there is maybe, you

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know what I mean? I was thinking this rock's gonna

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have little tunnels through it to one.

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Speaker 9: Well, at one point, I mean, Antarctica was way further north,

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a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: Way up, way up to a NOOKA Yes, was it really?

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I'm glad, I'm glad it was. Oh, let's see here anyhow,

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So let's do our clip pics. Yeah, and you see

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we got old Dano in the back room and the

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green you know, are you eating popcorn? Daniel?

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Speaker 9: I don't think you can hear it?

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Speaker 4: Like no, no, it's not no. And then what do

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we got clips?

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Speaker 9: Let's do it some clips, all right? Clip one?

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Speaker 4: All right? No, nice freeze frame. Okay, before we get

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into this clip once again, unverified crap. I have no

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idea if this is true. It could be. I was

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really interested, and I hope it's true. So let's play it.

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Speaker 11: We now know the legendary cracking what real. It was

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not a myth that is not fantasy. Scientists announced this

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week they have found the fossils of a giant octopus

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that would have been big enough to eat modern day

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whales easily. It is possibly the biggest creature to ever

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exist in the ocean. Okay, they are doing more research

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on right now to try to determine exactly how big

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this creature was, but absolutely montrosously huge. They found it

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off the coast of Japan. And my question is, how

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did our ancestors know about this? Okay, why did we

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think for so long this is just some kind of

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fantastical tail. Maybe they're seeing a giant squid one to

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two thousand years ago. People were commonly reporting now that

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right now they're saying that this fossil was like sixty

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million years old or whatever.

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Speaker 9: And maybe that one is.

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Speaker 11: But how do we know it's not still down there

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because our ancestors might have only been seeing them commonly

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because they're using wooden ships that don't use motors or engines. Okay,

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if you did not know it, octopus are extremely sensitive

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to loud mechanical noises. In fact, they're so sensitive to

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it that octopus have been found with having abrasions on

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the inside of what their ear drums would be because

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the noise is.

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Speaker 4: So loud to them, it drives them away.

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Speaker 11: So if there was something as big as a crack

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and it would be even more sensitive to these noises,

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that could drive it deep into the ocean. You guys

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have heard me do the podcast about the blue fifty

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two noise that we can hear in the ocean. That

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the bank is a well, but no one has ever

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photographed it or filmed it because it's so deep down

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in there.

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Speaker 9: What if it's this thing gets over that crowd enough?

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Speaker 4: I love octopus with no friends. This is about octopus. Sorry,

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she goes, I Live unverified Crap. Then you have come

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to the you have come to the rockday because this

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whole show is unverified crap. I think we gotta get

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t shirts made. Radio am on a total load of

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unverified crap.

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Speaker 9: Tune in for unverified crap.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm gonna get to work on it.

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Right after the show. You will buy next week you'll

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be able to buy I Live for Unverified Crap T shirt.

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Speaker 9: I'm making a note so I can remind you we.

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Speaker 4: Got to send one to her. You gotta send one

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to herry him. Whoever octopus with no friends is you

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have a friend in us?

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Speaker 9: All right, I'm making a note, unverified. We need to

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change radio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to change the whole name of the

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whole network. Pure.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Ourst line for that shirt is I live for unverified

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crap until Radio Am Jesus is fantastic. Yes, we are

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gonna let you. We're going to keep our promise.

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Speaker 9: Yep, it's not a contest.

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Speaker 4: Not a contest your idea, don't sue us.

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Speaker 9: No prices, No to a priceless.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, okay, clip two, clip too. There's probably

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some more unverified stuff. No, we can't clip to that

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sound is good. This is a synthetic species that was

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created in a lab. All species created in a lab.

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So this is the best unverified crap you're ever gonna hear.

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Go ahead, So this is what all the fuss is about.

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Speaker 8: This is the first synthetic species. And how long did

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it take you to make this? Well, if you count

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the total time from the conception, about.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen years, and how many millions.

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Speaker 12: About forty dollars over that entire time.

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Speaker 4: Enough of that unverified crap. It's interesting, though, if it's

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real yeah, I would imagine it probably is, but we

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don't know. It's unverified, all right. Clip three. The sound

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is not good, not good. Somebody sent me this. I

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don't know it's you, Jeff or Adam or maybe somebody

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did I care, somebody I knew anyhow. Cougars apparently they

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said our officially back down Minnesota because they verified these

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kittens that we've known for Minnesota. So now we have

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Obviously you had to have a man cougar and I

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got a woman cougar, and they made little baby cougars.

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Speaker 9: Can't verify that, No, we can't.

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Speaker 4: They could just be pets that are wayward. Whatever I've

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seen two cougars in Minnesota is all I know. Lots

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of reports, Yeah, yeah, there are lots of reports. So

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it's uh, it's verified by me and Jeff, but that's it.

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But our opinions are worthless, all right. Don't just don't

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want to run into any mama cougars with their little

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kiddies while you're walking your dog. Ah. Clip four. Sound

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But what's interesting this is the supposedly the biggest represents

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the biggest mammal ever to rome the earth. It was

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as tall as a three story building. Look at it,

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Back it up a little bit and show the elephant

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there next to it. This is called a parah Sarah

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Sarah theo you want to take a stab at the Yeah,

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really good job, Jeff, thanks for making Thanks for me.

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Can we look bad?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 4: That was a massive hornless rhino the size of a

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two story house. See I said three story, two story.

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It weighed as much as five African elephants and spend

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its day stripping entire entire trees. Bear just to keep going. There,

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you go, say that word.

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Speaker 9: Again, paraserathereum. Say it again, parasarathereum.

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Speaker 4: Say it again, Say it really fast now and I'll

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say shopper city ten times fast. No, do you remember that?

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You remember that old one? Oh my god?

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Then you gotta hold your tongue and say it shopper city.

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Speaker 10: You remember that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, don't don't try it people dangerous, don't do it

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in front of your kids. Clip five, no sound, and Jeff,

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you can read. I want you to read, all of you,

469
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,440
since you made me look bad, I'm a pair of

470
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:07,440
seraphthereum name. So now you got to read all of these.

471
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,119
Speaker 9: A murder of crows, these are so these are names

472
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,039
for groups of animals. A murder of crows, a parliament

473
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,000
of owls, something like that. A pot of dolphins, a

474
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:22,799
crash of rhinos, tower of giraffes, a coalition of cheetahs.

475
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,680
That's a good one too, A skulk of foxes, a

476
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:33,039
leader of puppies, a wattle of penguins. I can't read

477
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:37,559
the bottom of there. What the bottom say?

478
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:40,279
Speaker 4: Come on, Jeff, you can.

479
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 9: Do well the time we go. A mob of kangaroos,

480
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,759
a basket of crocodiles, and a smack of jellyfish.

481
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: Now, who'd have thought? Did you know any of those?

482
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 9: I probably half of them?

483
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: Half a smack of jellyfish?

484
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 9: That one?

485
00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: Are you serious?

486
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,359
Speaker 9: A parliament of oowels. I kind of like that one

487
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:00,759
the best.

488
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,119
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we knew the litter, we knew the

489
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,680
skulk of foxes. I did not know. I would have

490
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,640
thought they would have been a litter to a coalition

491
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:16,799
of cheetahs. A tower of girafts. That didn't make any sense,

492
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:27,000
David Birch says, A den of lawyers, as far would

493
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:28,359
say a leader.

494
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,079
Speaker 9: No, I think we got I don't know.

495
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 4: I can't even read it. All right, what's this, Jeff, come

496
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:44,839
up with a name? KAYU has challenged you. Look at

497
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:45,319
the screen.

498
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,839
Speaker 9: What is a stink of bigfoot?

499
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: What's a collective of bigfoot? A steak, steak of bigfoot,

500
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:59,680
A stink of bigfoot that deserves a clap or a

501
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:04,680
fun a bigfoot, a funk of bigfoot, a step of bigfoots.

502
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,000
Come on, people by and chat, Come on, get in

503
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:13,480
on this, let's speak. Come on, people, get in on this.

504
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,079
What do you call a but what are we gonna

505
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:20,199
call a group? A collective of bigfoots? We need to

506
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:26,920
have your answers. No, David Birch, that's not appropriate. Come on,

507
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:31,519
a clan we've got let's see here we have a

508
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,960
tangle of hairy people. That's pretty damn Come on, people,

509
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:42,039
get creative. If we might send you one of those

510
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,320
unverified crap t shirts, if you come up with the

511
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,239
best name for a for a collection of bigfoots together,

512
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,800
a lump of bigfoots, unverified of bigfoots. Yeah, that's actually

513
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,079
not that's pretty.

514
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,639
Speaker 9: Creative, an unverified crap of.

515
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: And unverified a bigfoot? Yeah, because the other not verified yet?

516
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:14,320
A clan o killing. Okay, Oh, there we go, just

517
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,239
big feet. That's not bad. A band of boogers. Oh

518
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,199
my god, that wins. A band of boogers. Jeff, you

519
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,039
don't you agree?

520
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 9: I like that one.

521
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:29,559
Speaker 4: A band of boogers. Yes, that's close. U kyu you

522
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:30,320
were a second.

523
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:32,559
Speaker 9: Oh I like. I like a howl of bigfoot too.

524
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:35,719
That's pretty good. Oh, Carl had a good one incognito.

525
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 4: Jeff, o's your unverified crap T shirt? Oh my god,

526
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,280
this show's going down the toilet.

527
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 9: Not a contest a big foot?

528
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: Okay, we still have one more. One more clip clip six?

529
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,679
This uh sound is good now just just go ahead

530
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,119
and play it.

531
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 13: Eighteen seventy seven, Chief Age Huffer was hired to look

532
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480
for giant birds called thunderbirds in Illinois.

533
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 9: In July.

534
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 13: He spotted large birds and recorded this video. He was

535
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,519
originally hired by CBS News to obtain footage of the

536
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:15,159
legendary creatures. This footage became so popular that was eventually

537
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,639
featured on an episode of Monster Quests. First centuries, indigenous

538
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:22,360
traditions across North America have told stories of massive birds

539
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,719
associated with storms, thunder, and the sky itself, but by

540
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,760
the nineteen seventies, some people began to believe that thunderbirds

541
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,039
might actually be out there and not just a myth.

542
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: There you go. Now, a friend of mine, doctor Reddick

543
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:41,079
over at the Raptor Center, even thought he, I mean

544
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,079
he knows birds better than anybody. I mean he does Surgeriana.

545
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,840
I mean he's do with them all day, every day,

546
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,280
every day, and he could not identify that bird.

547
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 9: That was a good episode. I remember that one.

548
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,559
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well I remember because one of the inside

549
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:02,679
stories of the episode was we needed to have a kid,

550
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,280
young man fly through the area as heasy getting lifted

551
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:12,039
to reenact the thunderbird. And I just grabbed a broomstick

552
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,960
and put it through his his uh what do you

553
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,760
call it? Uh s tak top that he was wearing,

554
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,599
and just one guy in one hand to one guy

555
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:24,079
on the other hand, and we just looked at him

556
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:27,679
at work and I said, kick your feet, kick your

557
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:32,000
feet and straight. Oh that was a real expensive special

558
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:37,599
effects folk, folks. That was cost one broomstick. Anyhow, I

559
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:41,800
shouldn't given that secret away. Okay, what do we got,

560
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:44,960
I think we're done. Let's do Uh Is it fake

561
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:45,800
as funk?

562
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:51,519
Speaker 3: Is its fake as bunked. Have we been pumped?

563
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 14: Is it bs fake?

564
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 7: As?

565
00:37:53,760 --> 00:38:03,599
Speaker 4: Have we Been pumped? That's my favorite. I like that,

566
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,880
it's my favorite. Okay, So the sound is good on

567
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,519
this next clip. I don't know if there's much sound

568
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:16,079
to hear, but it's apparently filmed over New York. So

569
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,199
is it ai? Is it real? Is it whatever?

570
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 9: I don't know.

571
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: You decide and please vote in the chat. I want

572
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:35,880
to hear your opinions. Well, there's a helicopter, stay done,

573
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:44,480
there's the helicon, there's the object, supposedly keywords supposedly Jeff

574
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,480
allegedly Allegedly it'd be real.

575
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 9: I don't.

576
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: It's unverified crap.

577
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 9: Just more unverified crap.

578
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,119
Speaker 4: It's more unverified crap. But I want it see your

579
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:59,360
opinions on it, because I really want to know where

580
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:05,519
people are at. Oh, let's see here. What are people saying?

581
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:12,039
Kiddy has ai? And you could be right? I just

582
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:16,199
I mean, that's obviously the thing most people are going

583
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,159
to go to now on UO footage, it's sad in

584
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:24,159
a lot of ways. Oh bigs, he just jined, she's

585
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:28,039
she's in trouble. She gets for demerits, for being late.

586
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,719
She said she lost track of time. We'll forgive you.

587
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 9: We forget an unverified flying crap object.

588
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all you missed is a bunch of unverified

589
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:44,559
crapnified crowd c I a uh studied these sounds supposedly,

590
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
and go ahead, and you can play the next one.

591
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:51,159
I don't know what do you see it there?

592
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,679
Speaker 9: The second one or the third one?

593
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:54,679
Speaker 4: Second?

594
00:39:55,039 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 9: Okay, hold on a second, here we go. No sound

595
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:01,000
on this one.

596
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: No, so what is this? This is the kind of

597
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,719
stuff I have seen stuff like this. That doesn't mean

598
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,000
this footage is real, but just hay on, there you go. Say,

599
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:21,840
you start seeing like multiple objects all moving. And I

600
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,239
remember a night back in literally in the sixties, probably

601
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,920
like nineteen sixty four. I was on the yard with

602
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400
my cousins and we saw this going on up in

603
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,639
the sky. Was one of those really dark nights, no moon,

604
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,119
and we called, you know, my mom, my dad came out,

605
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,679
my uncle, my aunt came out. We're all watching this.

606
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:47,719
These things were just zigzagging all over. And that's before satellites, right, Yeah,

607
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,880
so who knows? I don't know, all right, what's the

608
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,519
next one? And next one is about sound? So I

609
00:40:56,519 --> 00:41:00,159
don't know if you once again put your opinion in

610
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,719
the chat. I will review it. See here, somebody thinks

611
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,400
he's going we had a wedge with the three lights

612
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,159
flower one night. We were all sitting in the jacuzzi

613
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,400
and it was silent.

614
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 9: Yeah.

615
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,679
Speaker 4: I don't even remember what this clip is. Go ahead

616
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:20,079
and play it. It's unverified, that's for sure.

617
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 9: I can't verify this clip, he would exists.

618
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:29,199
Speaker 4: No, I can't this Okay does have something? Oh yeah,

619
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:36,199
I remember now. This is supposed to reset something. Don't

620
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,800
let me read about this. This is supposed to reprogram

621
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:47,440
your brain. Uh, forget about what you're thinking about meditation,

622
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:54,440
It says. Apparently the agency the investigating called the Gateway

623
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,800
experience and they used by how do you pronounce it?

624
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:06,280
I think binari beats and specific frequencies. You can play

625
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,599
it again to him, I saying to synchronize the brain's hemispheres.

626
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:17,480
The goal to reach deep, thatta and delta states same

627
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:22,000
level of consciousness linked in the ancient you know the ome.

628
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:27,119
You know that that is what Jeff does when you

629
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,280
get up in the morning, you just go home.

630
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,159
Speaker 9: I can't verify that until he looks in the mirror

631
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:34,000
and then he goes home.

632
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: Okay, what we're talking about apparently is from this is

633
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,119
a just again, it's all unverified. What it says it

634
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,320
came from declassified documents that red light science fiction psychoacoustics.

635
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,760
It's called So there you go.

636
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,639
Speaker 9: What do you think. I think there's some truth to that.

637
00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: Freak could be that does kind of give me a

638
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,320
give me the willies.

639
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 9: Yea, there's definitely something.

640
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 4: I'm definitely reset.

641
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 9: Jeff, not there yet. I can't verify.

642
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: We'll play it about twenty times when you get home.

643
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,960
All right, that's it. That's all we got. We're going

644
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,679
to bring Daniel on.

645
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:17,559
Speaker 9: Daniel.

646
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Daniel, are you ready?

647
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 9: He is ready?

648
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 4: He stumbs up. Well, let's see what we say. Daniel

649
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,679
runs the it's called the Cryptid Podcast. Now the hell

650
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,880
he came up with that name name? Who never thought

651
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,760
that was available?

652
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 9: Daniel?

653
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,679
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have jected that should not have been available

654
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:47,079
to you. This it's like, okay anyhow, but that's the

655
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:50,199
name of this podcast. It's a good podcast. But let's

656
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,719
go ahead and welcome Daniel Hamilton. He calls himself Dano.

657
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: Apparently, No, you guys are like my bros. So you

658
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:00,559
guys can call me. You guys can call me Daniel.

659
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:03,360
Everybody can call me Daniel if you want to.

660
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,519
Speaker 4: Uh, well, where did you get that? Because you do

661
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:08,960
a thing in the mornings called coffee with dan O.

662
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like mornings with dan O.

663
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 9: Yeah.

664
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 3: I've had that nickname for, like, I don't know, almost

665
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,679
thirty years. So yeah.

666
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,559
Speaker 4: And by the way, you have to verify we did

667
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:23,039
wait two and a half hours for our food, didn't we? Uh?

668
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,519
Speaker 3: Absolutely we did.

669
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:29,079
Speaker 4: And that was and you picked that restaurant, didn't you, Dan.

670
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: You gave me two choices. One, yeah, tavern grill or two.

671
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: I don't give their names. Oh my god, don't.

672
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: They don't know where they're at. So I didn't give

673
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,559
the name he uh, Jeff? Is it just Smeard? Does

674
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:45,119
Doug look a little taller today?

675
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? I am taller? Oh my god. Okay, all right,

676
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,360
So I'm gonna I'm just gonna tell everybody what I

677
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,079
originally said, and this is true. I'm gonna swear by it.

678
00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:59,639
Speaker 9: Yeah.

679
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,119
Speaker 4: I I woke up two three days ago and I

680
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:06,280
did I do you just walk right? You walk, you

681
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,400
can get coffee. You wake up, you get coffee, and

682
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,639
you sit down. I swear to God the chair felt lower,

683
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,159
and then when I was walking, because it was double things,

684
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:18,320
the chair felt lower, and I felt like I was

685
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:22,920
seeing things from a little different perspective, like about two inches,

686
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,639
nothing dramatic, and I thought, am I hallucinating? Then I

687
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,480
went and sat in another chair, and that one seemed shorter,

688
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,039
and I went, Okay, what's going on here? Did I

689
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,280
slip into a new dimension while I slept? And I

690
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,039
told Daniel the course he's been teasing me ever since,

691
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:42,679
So now you can all get in on it and

692
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,239
tease me.

693
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you sent me to text. I

694
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:49,440
literally I was taking a drink and I opened up

695
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,719
with your text and I saw you. I spit my

696
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,519
drink out. I was laughing so hard. My wife looked

697
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:57,679
at me. She's like, what is your problem? I go, Doug,

698
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,719
She's like, who I go?

699
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 9: Check?

700
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: He's a jokester right now?

701
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: Oh it's bad, you know?

702
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was good.

703
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:07,039
Speaker 10: It was good.

704
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: Catch up with you yesterday?

705
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: Man? Yeah, Jeff, can you turn his mic up a

706
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,440
little bitter?

707
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 9: Sure?

708
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,559
Speaker 4: Maybe? Aim yours better? You're supposed to know how to

709
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,360
deal with your mic? There, Daniel?

710
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: Is that better?

711
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

712
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:20,559
Speaker 9: Yes?

713
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:21,039
Speaker 3: There you go.

714
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 4: It's directional and a condenser. Mic, you gotta be aimed

715
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,639
exactly at your damn lips.

716
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:33,599
Speaker 3: But but I I will say this though, yesterday at

717
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:38,599
lunch like it, it looked like he was taller than

718
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:41,920
what the chair should have been because his knees were up. True,

719
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,400
he goes, do my gleating? Look at my knees are

720
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,719
way up here? And I'm like, oh, yeah they are.

721
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: Oh my god, KYU goes, we can't verify this.

722
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: Oh I was there one hundred percent verification.

723
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: Well, you know part of the chairs being lower is

724
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,920
that you're getting older, right, Yeah you do. I mean,

725
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,239
you know you get this se older, you get it's

726
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,840
a little more when you get up on of chairs.

727
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,039
And I talk to my old buddy, who I literally

728
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,960
remember distinctly going to his fiftieth birthday party, going, god, dang,

729
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:20,079
I don't ever want to be that old. And I

730
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,559
asked him yesterday how old he was and he said

731
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:27,280
he was eighty four, and I went, oh, what happened?

732
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:29,119
Speaker 9: Crazy?

733
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably know who I'm talking about, Daniel.

734
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,679
Speaker 3: Is it the person you called while?

735
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: Yes?

736
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: Yes, did he really say that?

737
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

738
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 3: You know, Well, I will tell you the older I get.

739
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,360
I agree I look for a chair that I don't

740
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,159
have to sit further down in so it's easier to

741
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:51,079
get up. Yeah, and the porcelain god. I try to

742
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:54,920
find a higher porcelain god than these little ones that

743
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,679
make you feel like you're squatting in the field. I

744
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,400
can't do that good. That'll blow your knees out. Gentlemen,

745
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,199
you go down to do your business. Next thing you know,

746
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,159
you got nine one one. You're laying on the floor,

747
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:08,039
your knees are all blowed out, and you still haven't

748
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,719
clean yourself. That's kind of messed up.

749
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 9: Can I predict the conversation would go with this direction?

750
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: Well I didn't either, But here we are, Oh my god, okay,

751
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,079
but then you said, okay, I admitted what I said.

752
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: Oh, i'll what I said.

753
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,119
Speaker 4: And it was talking about flights and whatever, and he goes,

754
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:33,840
he goes, you tell him I can't.

755
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:36,559
Speaker 3: Do it, instead of saying, I, you know, I don't.

756
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,679
I normally don't fly. And I said yeah. When I

757
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:43,960
went to the other one, I flowed.

758
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't normally flow.

759
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't normally flow. And so like, oh, here

760
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:51,320
we go.

761
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: I haven't like I'll live that one down either Nope.

762
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,119
See sche you don't say anything about me saying I

763
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:02,119
felt taller, and I won't say anything about you you flowing.

764
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: But I'm going to I check, I'm going to my brother.

765
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 4: Okay, let's talk. Let's talk crazy cryptid stuff. So you

766
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,599
got interested in this because you had some kind of

767
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,000
very strange experience when you were younger.

768
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,639
Speaker 9: Yeah, do you want to?

769
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to waste too much time on you,

770
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,119
because if we have so many other people we can

771
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:28,119
talk about Bud it affected your life. Can you condense

772
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:29,119
that story a bit?

773
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,079
Speaker 9: Yeah?

774
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,559
Speaker 3: Well, I mean what got me interested in the whole

775
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,000
subject of cryptids was seeing the Patterson Giland film Oh

776
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,480
when I was about ten or eleven years old, and

777
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:43,039
I was super super, you know, fascinated with him because

778
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:45,440
I lived in the Pacific Northwest. I lived up in

779
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:50,679
Washington State, and I you know, if they got video

780
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,599
of it, I say, a clan, but I like flat rocks.

781
00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:01,800
What was it a something of a boogers whatever? He said? Yeah, yeah,

782
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,639
bandon boogers. That's awesome. But anyway, so you know, I

783
00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:11,039
I believe that they were definitely California, Northern California, quite

784
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,599
possibly organ but I didn't think that they were going

785
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:17,440
to be able to cross the Columbia River. This is

786
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,559
my thought process when I was like eleven years old,

787
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:21,679
ten eleven years old, that they wouldn't be able to

788
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:25,239
get across the Columbia River, so there's no way they

789
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,840
would be in in Washington State. Nineteen eighty four, that

790
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,840
all changed when my dad and I and my little brother,

791
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,679
we were coming home from Tacoma and we saw one.

792
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,719
We pulled off of the Bay Drive. My brother was

793
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,039
asleep in the back of the car. I was sitting

794
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:47,519
in the front passenger seat, and as we came off

795
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:53,400
the road, my dad his head lights they hit made

796
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,119
some eyeshine or something way up and I was like, Dad,

797
00:50:58,119 --> 00:50:59,800
there's something up in the road. Turn your brides on.

798
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,760
Like no, no, no, they'll see us coming. They'll hear

799
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,960
us coming, you know, they they'll they'll get out of

800
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,679
the way. So the road kind of dipped off of

801
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,960
the main road and then it kind of leveled off

802
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,599
and then have like a small rise. It would come up,

803
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,559
then we go back down again. It did this a

804
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:18,079
couple of times before it hit We hit our property

805
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,079
and we went down down a little dip and they

806
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:26,800
came back up on the rise and uh, I still

807
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,840
saw the I go, Dad, it's still there, still there.

808
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,800
Turn your brides on and he's like, no, no, it'll it,

809
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,760
trust me, it'll it'll it'll be uh, you know, it'll move,

810
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,480
it'll hear us coming, it'll see us, it'll move. Go

811
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:40,639
back down this little dip, come back up this rise.

812
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:44,559
And my dad he hit, he hit the uh, hit

813
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:47,599
the brights. And he had installed some like aftermarket driving

814
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:51,559
lights that would He had him angled out as far

815
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,159
as he could so he could see both sides of

816
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:57,920
the road because in this area we had tons of wildlife, fox, coyotes, deer,

817
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:04,679
wild dogs, things like that. And uh, he hit those brights,

818
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,000
turned on those driving lights, and it lit the entire

819
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:10,719
area up in front of us. And there she was.

820
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:14,639
She just started standing up. I didn't think she was

821
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:18,000
gonna stop standing up. She turned her she turned to

822
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:20,760
look at us. You know, her whole body turned pretty much.

823
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,760
She put her hand up like this to block the light.

824
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,559
You could see the palms of her hand. Her skin

825
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:31,480
was black, her face was black, dark charcoal colored hair.

826
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,039
Saw her chest region. There was hair there, but not

827
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:38,960
a bunch of hair. There was more hair on her

828
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,039
like arms and shoulders and head than there was in

829
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:47,559
the chest and stomach area. Uh yeah, uh she if

830
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,639
I had to give you a description like size and

831
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,039
hythe wise and body type wise, she resembled Patty, but

832
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:59,079
not as robust. She but she wasn't skinny. She was

833
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:02,280
she was still but she wasn't as thick as Patty.

834
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,079
But she wasn't skinny. Probably seven seven and a half

835
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:15,119
feet tall, probably between five and six fifty five hundred

836
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:20,239
and six hundred and fifty pounds. At that second, I

837
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,920
was I had two emotions going on. I was absolutely excited,

838
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:28,480
but I was terrified. I went down into the floorboard

839
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,519
of the car. I looked up at my dad, thinking

840
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:36,440
my dad was going to speed off, but he didn't.

841
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:41,519
He kept the He kept the same constant speed, never

842
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:47,360
slowed up, never slowed down. And we turned into the

843
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:52,480
driveway shortly after that. But before we did that, I

844
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,639
figured we were still around the same spot, or we

845
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:58,840
had passed the same spot that she was standing in.

846
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,400
So when I looked up, I kind of peeked up

847
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,559
and looked out the passenger window, and I could see

848
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:07,400
her standing in the tree line. And that's what I

849
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:11,679
noticed that. What I mean, I had enough of a

850
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,639
light still that I could see that her eyes were black. Now,

851
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,039
the eyeshine that I saw was like a dark amberish

852
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,840
reddish color. To this day, I still don't know what

853
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,159
it is. I don't know if it's a reflection from

854
00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:30,239
the lights. I don't know if they can self illuminate

855
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,960
their eyes. I don't know. I wish I had an answer.

856
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,199
I wish someone had an answer. I don't know. We

857
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,599
pulled into our driveway and as my dad was slowing down,

858
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:44,880
I jumped out of the car. I jumped out of

859
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,000
a movie car, jumped up into up on the porch,

860
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:53,000
and into the house. How would I describe the face? Okay,

861
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:56,159
so one, Yes, I did see the breast. Yes, they

862
00:54:56,199 --> 00:55:02,440
did have a light like thin hair on it. Her face,

863
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,079
a nose similar to ours but on a bigger scale,

864
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,719
a full lower lip and a thinner upper lip. The eyebrow,

865
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:17,679
the you know, the pronounced eyebrow I read bridge route

866
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,000
or whatever you want to call it. It didn't look

867
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:25,199
like she had a conical head. I didn't see ears

868
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,039
because hair was coming down, but her face from like

869
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:32,400
her forehead, like right above her brow, all the way

870
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,880
down to like right in this part of her chin

871
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,119
was completely hairless. There was no hair at all the

872
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:39,679
brow ridge.

873
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,079
Speaker 9: That's it.

874
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,519
Speaker 3: So that's the best description I could give you of

875
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:49,119
her face. Now, as I jumped back up on the

876
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:52,719
like I said, jumped on the deck and then into

877
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,159
the camper, I heard my dad's car door shut, and

878
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:00,840
then my little brother. My dad was my little brother

879
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,400
up into the camper. We lived in the fifth wheell,

880
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,119
and we lived My brother and I slept on that

881
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,960
little loft area. So my dad puts my brother up there,

882
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:13,960
goes and takes his My dad comes back downstairs, goes

883
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,800
into the cupboards and the refrigerator, gets food, goes outside,

884
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,239
puts it on like a little table that we had

885
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:26,199
on our deck that he had built, goes around, gets

886
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,239
a ladder that brings it up. Now, my dad had

887
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,239
attached a long pole on the back left corner of

888
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,880
the deck because he's a birdwatcher, and he was gonna

889
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,480
put a bird feeder on the top of this pole

890
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,960
so he could definitely, you know, take pictures and notes

891
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,480
about the birds coming in. But he hadn't put the

892
00:56:46,199 --> 00:56:48,920
birdhouse of the bird feeder up there yet. There was

893
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,039
just a basic wood platform that he had attached to it.

894
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:56,920
Somehow he put the ladder up, put all the food

895
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,880
up there. He had taken a rag out from underneath

896
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:03,119
the think and then he squeezed what I later found

897
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:06,800
out was grease into the rag, and he greased the

898
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,000
entire pole, gets off the ladder, of course, puts it up,

899
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:13,400
puts the ladder up, and he comes in the house

900
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,880
and I asked him, I go, Dad, why did you

901
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,840
what did you what did you just put on on

902
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,079
that pole? And he goes, oh, grease, And I go,

903
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,119
why did you do that? And he goes, oh, that's

904
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:29,039
to keep the animals away from the food. And when

905
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:31,000
he asked me that, when he when he told me that,

906
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:36,599
I go, oh, so you mean like raccoons, and he's like, yeah, yeah, raccoons.

907
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,960
And it made sense to me, Daniel, what was your

908
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:44,800
dad's opinion of Bigfoot? Before deciding I'll answer that one

909
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:51,840
after I tell you the story. So he goes outside,

910
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,119
he starts to smoke a cigarette. I'm kind of eavesdropping

911
00:57:56,159 --> 00:57:57,840
what he's saying because I hear him say. I hear

912
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,519
him talking, and he says something to the effect of like,

913
00:58:02,239 --> 00:58:05,719
you know, we know you saw us, you know, we

914
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,880
saw you. You know, don't hurt us. These are my boys.

915
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,400
That food is up there for you. Don't scare my boys.

916
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,800
We don't many dis you know that kind of things.

917
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:20,039
He comes back in and I asked him who he

918
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,400
was talking to, and he said, well, I I was.

919
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:26,440
I was praying, and I go, Dad, I didn't hear

920
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,760
you say amen? And he kind of chuckled and he

921
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,159
says amen. And then he asked me, goes, Bud, do

922
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:32,639
you want do you want to sleep with me? You know,

923
00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:35,480
sleep with me? And I'm like, yes, I do. Now again,

924
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,800
I'm terrified. I'm excited. I didn't think that these things

925
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:44,519
are going to be in Washington State. Yes, that night

926
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:49,280
I found out that they were. So my dad had

927
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,800
one of those old alarm clocks that had like an

928
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,639
amber's glow behind the numbers, and the numbers were like

929
00:58:56,719 --> 00:59:01,719
these white plastic like tiles, and they would flip every

930
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,079
time it changed the time, so you hear the little

931
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:08,039
flip and then it kind of gave an ambient color,

932
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:12,679
like an ambush color in the room. Go to bed,

933
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:17,760
and it was around one between one and one fifteen,

934
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:24,320
because I remember that specific time. One am something and

935
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:30,559
I hear this loud like creak, like something stepping up

936
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:36,760
onto the deck, something very heavy stepping onto the deck.

937
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,880
And I opened my eyes. I look at my dad

938
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,280
and he's kind of putting his fingers to his lip

939
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,960
to tell me to be quiet. And I try to

940
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:56,360
ask him, like how many, how many are there? And

941
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,280
he just put the number three up. I don't know

942
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,440
how he knew that specifically, but when he did that,

943
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:05,719
I kind of had my back resting against the wall,

944
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,280
and at that time I heard and felt something run

945
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,000
by really quick on that back side of the wall,

946
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:15,599
of the backside of the camper, and it sounded like

947
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:17,280
it went to the very end of the camper and

948
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:22,039
then turned and went around behind the camper. And then

949
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:26,800
I hear something climbing up onto the deck again. And

950
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,960
then I hear something else walking up onto the deck. Now,

951
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,960
if you guys have heard the sound of wood when

952
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,719
something extremely heavy is placed on top of it, you

953
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,760
hear the groans, the pops, the cracks, the creeks, and

954
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,920
that's what I was hearing. And then the next thing

955
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,800
I heard, and again this is a horrible rendition, but

956
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:55,840
I heard something like, oh yeah, like some vocalizations, but

957
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,599
much much scarier than that. And I know I just

958
01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:04,000
started freaking out. I grabbed a hold of my dad.

959
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:07,119
I buried my face and his shoulder. He's trying to

960
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:10,079
hold onto me. He's reaching over here with his right hand.

961
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:13,119
He's trying to pull me close. He's trying to keep

962
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:18,239
you know, himself between me and the door. I know

963
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,159
I fell asleep. I know I cried myself to sleep,

964
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:24,440
because the next thing I remember, I was waking up

965
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,280
with some sunlight coming in through one of the window

966
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,360
on the door. Now, you couldn't see out the window.

967
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,719
The window was like opaque, so it was like you

968
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,519
could see light coming in and out, but you just

969
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:39,440
couldn't see what was inside or what was outside. I

970
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,800
get up, I open up the door, and I go

971
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,719
and I jump and climb up on the railing of

972
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,639
the deck and I look up and I don't see

973
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:56,079
any food up on this platform. I jump off and

974
01:01:56,119 --> 01:01:58,159
I yelled to my dad, Dad, Dad, it's all gone.

975
01:01:58,199 --> 01:02:00,159
It's all gone. They took it. They took it. It's

976
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:05,840
all gone. And he gets up and he comes out

977
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,599
and he's starting to look and he stands there and

978
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:11,719
he's looking. He doesn't see anything. And I'm over here

979
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,039
now looking at the pole, and I see where something

980
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:19,440
had grabbed this pole in multiple places, and then it

981
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,800
had taken its finger and dragged it all the way

982
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,360
down and then wiped all the grease off onto the railing.

983
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:30,440
I showed my dad that. My dad says, you know,

984
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:35,119
don't tell your brother. So fast forward to summer. It

985
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:39,360
was a Saturday when this happened. My dad was not

986
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,679
in a good mood because he had to go into

987
01:02:41,679 --> 01:02:45,360
work on a Saturday to do inventory. He comes home

988
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,360
the whole day, me and my brother just goofing off.

989
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,840
We're listening to music, playing video games, eating food that

990
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,719
we shouldn't be eating in a place that we should

991
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:56,519
not be eating it, drinking my dad's pepsis. And he

992
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:59,719
comes home and I hear my dad do something that

993
01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:02,559
I've I've only maybe heard him do three times in

994
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:07,000
my lifetime, and that slam his car door. And my

995
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,599
dad had a really nice Mustang, like a seventy one,

996
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,320
like Boss three to H two or something like that.

997
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,119
It was a super It had bloovers on the back window.

998
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:21,360
It was a nice, nice car. And he slammed the

999
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,679
heck out of that car door, and I hear him

1000
01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:27,320
and he yelled. He says my entire name. He gives

1001
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,480
my first, middle, and last name, and I know I'm

1002
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:33,239
in trouble for something. I'm trying to think what I

1003
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,480
had done. And he comes up on the deck and

1004
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:37,480
he's like, he's like, do you want to tell me

1005
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:41,000
when the burn barrel is? And I'm like, I'm like you,

1006
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,360
what are you talking about? He's like, seriously, where's the

1007
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,840
burn barrel? I go, how do I know I didn't

1008
01:03:46,159 --> 01:03:49,280
burn any trash today, dad? Because back in those days

1009
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,159
we are out in the area, in the rural area,

1010
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:55,079
we didn't have trash service. We burned all of our trash.

1011
01:03:55,159 --> 01:03:57,000
And I go, Dad, I didn't have any I didn't

1012
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,280
burn any trash. And he goes, well, what happened to

1013
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,760
the burn barrel? What? Now? I'm starting to get agitated

1014
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,159
with my dad. He's accused me of something I didn't do.

1015
01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:07,519
He's like, get out here right now. He grits his

1016
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:09,960
teeth and uses his finger and says, get out here.

1017
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,000
I go outside, go around. And the first thing I

1018
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:16,719
asked my dad is I'm like, Dad, what happened to

1019
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:17,360
the burn barrel?

1020
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:17,559
Speaker 9: Like?

1021
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:20,239
Speaker 3: Where's the burn barrel. He's like, that's what I'm trying

1022
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,760
to ask you. What did you do with it? I go,

1023
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,880
I have no clue what you're talking about. And he's

1024
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,880
like listen. I go, Dad, you listen to me. I

1025
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,119
didn't do anything of that burn barrel. He's like, well,

1026
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,159
just didn't work, you know, didn't get up and walk

1027
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,440
away itself. I said, you know what, I bet you

1028
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,199
one of those bigfoot took it. And he's like, shut up.

1029
01:04:39,239 --> 01:04:41,639
He goes, what would they do with the burn barrel?

1030
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:43,960
And he goes go find it? I go where am

1031
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,159
I supposed to look? He's like, I don't know. So

1032
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:48,760
he goes one way looking for it, and I walk

1033
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,920
into this area that after we had first moved in there.

1034
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,159
I had seen something walk into the woods in this

1035
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,719
area one night.

1036
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,679
Speaker 4: Dan it was this a fifty five gallon drum. Yes,

1037
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,079
burn barrel. So it was a full sized.

1038
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,519
Speaker 3: One, yep. And my dad had put like two bags,

1039
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:12,079
like two twenty pound bags of sand at the bottom

1040
01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:12,320
of it.

1041
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 4: So is it rusted? Is it painted? What's it look like?

1042
01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:18,039
Speaker 3: It was painted? It was painted blue?

1043
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 4: Okay?

1044
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: And uh it he put all the sand in there

1045
01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:29,239
so it wouldn't wouldn't blow over, right. So I go

1046
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,239
into this area where I saw something walk into the woods,

1047
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:37,679
you know, months earlier before we had our sighting, And

1048
01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:42,199
about thirty feet inside the woods, I find the burn

1049
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:46,440
barrel and it looks like something had grabbed the bird

1050
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:51,400
barrel and just threw it into the woods, like just

1051
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:54,480
chucked it into the woods. And so I yelled my dad.

1052
01:05:54,519 --> 01:05:56,880
I'm like, Dad, I found it. I found it. And

1053
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,000
he's like what. I go, what do you think you're

1054
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:02,679
what are we looking for? You know? And now I'm

1055
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,599
already I know I'm past the point in overturn. You know.

1056
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,000
My mind, in my mind is telling me to shut

1057
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:12,239
my mouth, and my pride is telling me keep going, man,

1058
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,719
keep going, keep digging a hole for yourself. And my

1059
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,280
dad comes running over. I go, I found what you're

1060
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,360
looking for. He's like, Daniel, I'm not gonna tell you again,

1061
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,920
and he goes, well, how did you get in here?

1062
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,719
And I said, Dad, I already told you. I bet

1063
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:27,800
you it's one of those big foots. And he's like,

1064
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:29,960
shut up, don't say nothing to your brother. I don't

1065
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,960
need your brother scared. He's gonna want to go move

1066
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,360
back with your mom. Just you know, knock it off.

1067
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,239
So we moved the burn barrel back and I go, Dad,

1068
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,920
I'm telling you, I'm telling you it's one of those

1069
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,679
dang bigfoots. I bet you was the one we saw.

1070
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,079
And he goes, don't tell your brother. And about that time,

1071
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:50,320
my little brother comes walking around from to the front

1072
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,599
of the camper and he's like, tell me what And

1073
01:06:54,639 --> 01:06:57,639
before my dad could say anything, I said, Bobby, a

1074
01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:00,639
bigfoot through the burn barrel in the woods. My Dad's

1075
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:06,920
smack me upside the head, and my brother just very

1076
01:07:07,079 --> 01:07:10,079
plain as day, goes, well, I don't think it was

1077
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:13,480
one of the little ones that I've seen. And we're

1078
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,440
both like, whoa, whoa, what do you talk to? What

1079
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,079
do you mean little ones that you've seen. He's like, oh, yeah,

1080
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:20,119
I see two small ones. I see him all the time.

1081
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,559
Like what do you mean you see them all the time?

1082
01:07:22,639 --> 01:07:24,800
He goes, well, not like every day, but when we

1083
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,559
play music or we cook out, I see him. They

1084
01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:29,480
walk along this part of the of the woods and

1085
01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:32,000
then they go and they sit. They sit over in

1086
01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:35,519
this little area and I go. My Dad's like, well,

1087
01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:37,159
what do you mean. So he's like, come, I'll show

1088
01:07:37,199 --> 01:07:39,800
you so we both follow him over. He walks right

1089
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,039
to this area. You could see where something has continuously

1090
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:47,039
sat there or laid there, because everything is just maded

1091
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:50,880
down like it is flat as flat can be. And

1092
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,880
he goes, yeah, I've thrown a bunch of tennis balls

1093
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,119
and baseballs out here, but I never find him. They

1094
01:07:56,159 --> 01:07:59,440
never give them back to me, They just keep them.

1095
01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:02,400
And there's been times where my brother said, you know,

1096
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,760
he would go out to the treehouse that we built. Well,

1097
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,360
it was just inside the woods, maybe fifty yards inside

1098
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,760
the woods, and he said one time he was walking

1099
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,760
in he saw one jump out of the out of

1100
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,399
the treehouse, and he said, the way that it landed,

1101
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:20,520
it didn't like stick the landing then get up a

1102
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,119
takeoff running. It just came down and like it was

1103
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:27,800
run like kind of like on the zip line, and

1104
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,479
it just hit the ground at a dead run and

1105
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,600
just took off, just took off. He said, it was

1106
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,600
gone so quick. He goes, I hardly even saw which

1107
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,359
way it went. It was gone that quick. And there

1108
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:40,880
have been times where we were both in the treehouse

1109
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,720
and then you just get this really eerie, eerie feeling,

1110
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:47,960
and I remember looking out the window or a treehouse just

1111
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,640
in time to see something like this, and then moved

1112
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,720
his head back, and then he look over on this

1113
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,600
side of the tree and move his head back when

1114
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,399
he realized I was focused in on where he was at,

1115
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:05,520
and I called that when the peak. Later on the

1116
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,800
following October, we actually had to leave that property. My

1117
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,840
dad was involved in that car accident. We moved back

1118
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,239
to Tacoma to live with my aunt so my dad

1119
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:17,920
could recuperate and heal. I mean, my dad was almost

1120
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:24,520
killed in the car accident, and so he lost the property.

1121
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:30,079
He couldn't work, and so he sold the camper, lost

1122
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:32,520
the property. The new owners wanted the camper off. We

1123
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,600
were going out there to clean it up, me, my dad,

1124
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,800
my aunt, and my dad, I, me and my brother

1125
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:41,359
and all four of us were out there. Everybody was

1126
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,279
else was cleaning out the camper. I had already taken

1127
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:46,279
everything I wanted when my aunt came and picked us

1128
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:51,279
up the day of the accident, and I noticed that

1129
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:53,640
it looked like something was trying to look in all

1130
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,359
of the all of the windows, even the tall ones

1131
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:01,680
up where the the loft was. And I firmly believe

1132
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,079
that what we had there was a family unit.

1133
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 4: I'm a band of burgers.

1134
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: A band of burgers. I think there's a band of

1135
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,680
boogers on there. But I don't think they were like

1136
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,560
living on the five acres of land we were. I

1137
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,279
think they were just in that area. And I've looked,

1138
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:24,239
I've Google mapped it, and uh, it looks nothing like

1139
01:10:24,359 --> 01:10:26,479
a lot of the woods are gone, almost as thick

1140
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,680
as the woods were. They're they're hearty there. Now, when

1141
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,800
we lived there, there was only two other houses, and

1142
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,319
you had to do some really if you took the roads,

1143
01:10:36,359 --> 01:10:38,319
it took you about ten minutes to get to each house.

1144
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,199
But if you cut through the woods, you get there

1145
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:44,000
a little faster. But again, you know what type of trees.

1146
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:48,079
These were pines and then other native trees of Washington State.

1147
01:10:49,359 --> 01:10:52,720
There was a creek and a pond out in the woods.

1148
01:10:52,760 --> 01:11:01,079
Plenty of plenty, plenty of of animals, deer, fox, kyoe, porcupines.

1149
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,960
Uh So there was plenty. And plus you know there

1150
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,000
was people that uh raised rabbits. There's people out there

1151
01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:10,600
that had small little gardens. So I'm sure there was.

1152
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,479
You know, there's more enough. And that was just on

1153
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,399
our five acres of lamb that had you know, that's

1154
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,039
that little like creek and that pond. And it was

1155
01:11:19,079 --> 01:11:21,359
in Graham, Washington, so it was in Pierce County.

1156
01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 4: So did this, all of this stuff affect your career choice?

1157
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna be honest, No, it really didn't. You

1158
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,600
know what I did is, you know, I tried to

1159
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:40,039
talk to people about it, and I would get laughed at,

1160
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:42,000
you know, oh, you're just seeing things, You're you know,

1161
01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:44,439
you're you're so little liar. And and a lot of

1162
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,119
these people that I was talking to were family members,

1163
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,800
you know, and so I just kind of kept it

1164
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,399
repressed way way down and just didn't really talk about it.

1165
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,079
Every time that i'd see something come up, you know,

1166
01:11:59,159 --> 01:12:01,560
I would mention it and no one would really listen.

1167
01:12:02,199 --> 01:12:05,159
And then, you know, I joined the Air Force, served,

1168
01:12:05,159 --> 01:12:08,239
you know, did my four years, almost five years, got out,

1169
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,680
and the Internet just started to come around, you know,

1170
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,079
AOL dial up, all that type of stuff, and I

1171
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:20,880
never really thought about looking for anything there. But then

1172
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,760
when Facebook came around, YouTube and stuff like that, now

1173
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,399
everybody's able to post things and stories that I found

1174
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:33,119
forums and things like that, I really really started getting

1175
01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:36,880
interested into it again. And then you know, realizing that,

1176
01:12:37,079 --> 01:12:39,359
you know, that wasn't the only time I had ever

1177
01:12:39,399 --> 01:12:42,000
seen one, and it definitely wasn't the only time I've

1178
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,680
had an encounter with one. So yeah, and then it

1179
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,079
was just me wanting to kind of validate what I

1180
01:12:51,119 --> 01:12:56,119
had seen. What I had heard is why I started

1181
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:58,960
a podcast, and you know, I wanted I wanted everybody

1182
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,359
to kind of.

1183
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 4: Because you're podcast all verified.

1184
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 3: The last I looked, it's verified, you know. I uh,

1185
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,720
I think as much as I could verify it, you know. Uh,

1186
01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:14,119
but uh, yeah, you know, I just want to give

1187
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:17,319
people a platform that have, you know, to come out

1188
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:22,119
here and and just tell people, you know, hey, this

1189
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:23,479
is a safe place for you guys to come and

1190
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,640
hang out tell your stories. We have a great group

1191
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,439
of moderators in my chan, my live chats, and yeah,

1192
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,239
it's just, you know, I just want people to know,

1193
01:13:34,359 --> 01:13:38,239
you know, I've been there. I've felt that fear, but

1194
01:13:38,279 --> 01:13:42,479
I've also felt that excitement. Yeah, and uh, you know,

1195
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,039
it's just I want, uh, you know, I want you

1196
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:48,279
guys to know that it's okay, you're not crazy, You're

1197
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:51,560
not alone. That people have had encounters like this, some

1198
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,239
more scarier, you know, and some not. So I've had

1199
01:13:55,319 --> 01:13:59,079
only one aggressive encounter. I never saw it, I heard

1200
01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:02,359
it it let us know that it was there. My

1201
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,840
brother saw it. But everything else has been very very

1202
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:11,840
passive that I've absolutely knew one hundred percent that it

1203
01:14:12,319 --> 01:14:16,680
was a bigfoot. Now I had two prior ones that

1204
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,600
one was passive. The other one is is it's actually

1205
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,279
very aggressive. But I thought they were bears because I

1206
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:27,239
never saw anything, you know, I mean, but if you

1207
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,479
take all the puzzle pieces from that camping trip and

1208
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,960
put them together, what else could it be?

1209
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:33,520
Speaker 9: So?

1210
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,399
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that's a lot of quite a

1211
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,239
few things in one spot. As a how old were

1212
01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:44,960
you during all that?

1213
01:14:45,039 --> 01:14:50,319
Speaker 3: Again, it would be my first sighting, Well just from

1214
01:14:50,359 --> 01:14:53,760
that whole period, Well, the first things I believe that

1215
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:58,600
I had encounters started like nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine,

1216
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,000
so I was about out six or seven. And then

1217
01:15:03,239 --> 01:15:05,840
the last time I had any type of an encounter,

1218
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:12,920
I guess you would say is I was fifty fifty three.

1219
01:15:13,279 --> 01:15:15,279
Oh okay, last one was in Michigan.

1220
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:22,119
Speaker 4: Very interesting, Okay, so what happened? Now? You get a

1221
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:25,960
lot of obviously cryptid reports, I would imagine on a

1222
01:15:26,039 --> 01:15:30,399
pretty regular basis kind of what's the trend right now

1223
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:35,159
and what's the hottest location for people seeing some kind

1224
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:36,760
of utoplaced animals.

1225
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,359
Speaker 3: There are two really huge things going on right now

1226
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:47,439
within the last I want to say, probably last sixty

1227
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,640
to seventy five days. First, you know, you hear about

1228
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:54,399
what's going on in northeast Ohio. There's a flap that

1229
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,479
hit that area. I think there was a nine sidings

1230
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:07,079
by ten people. And then just north of it up

1231
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:12,920
in Ontario, Canada. From April fourth to April twenty fourth,

1232
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,399
so in about a twenty day period there was I

1233
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:23,279
think sixteen to eighteen reported sightings of bigfoot.

1234
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:26,079
Speaker 4: Wow.

1235
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 3: And just recently, I want to say, in the last

1236
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,760
maybe five days, there was one in Kansas.

1237
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:41,359
Speaker 4: I didn't hear about the Kansas. That's Kansas. Kansas is

1238
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:44,640
not the first place you think of, Nope, when you

1239
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,880
think of big foot sightings. But yes, but if they're

1240
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,520
going to go north and south, you're going to have

1241
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,720
to go through Kansas.

1242
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 9: Yep.

1243
01:16:55,239 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 4: So it doesn't it doesn't really shock me. And yeah,

1244
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:05,800
Jeremiah was covering that Ohio absolutely, and of course once

1245
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,399
again it's all unverified.

1246
01:17:08,079 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, uh, Jeremiah he he messaged me. He's like, man,

1247
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,000
you're not gonna believe what's going on. Man, You're not

1248
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,279
gonna be just going on and goes stay tuned. I'm like, okay,

1249
01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:18,840
so you know, I you know, got back to But

1250
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,399
do I think they migrate? Absolutely? I think they migrate.

1251
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,479
Excuse me, Yeah, I absolutely believe.

1252
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 4: Well, they'd have to dan because if you need to eat,

1253
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,399
you're gonna have to move. Yeah, I mean, it's just

1254
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,079
unless you're just gonna go after deer and deer and

1255
01:17:39,119 --> 01:17:40,119
dear nothing else.

1256
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 3: But you know, also, when the Ohio flap happened, it

1257
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,800
all kicked off like right after I guess a meteor

1258
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:55,279
strike hit Ohio, and you know, you have everybody jumping

1259
01:17:55,319 --> 01:17:57,520
on board on that. You know. I've heard a lot

1260
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,520
of people, oh, you know the meteor it caused them

1261
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,000
to do something different than they normally do. And I'm like,

1262
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,760
do you guys realize how many meteors hit the Earth

1263
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,279
every single day and you don't even know about it.

1264
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,359
If that was the case, then this whole If if

1265
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,760
every cryptid in the world was going to be what

1266
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,720
was was going to be affected by a meteor strike,

1267
01:18:27,319 --> 01:18:29,920
then oh my gosh, we'd see him walking down Rodale

1268
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,359
Drive and Wall Street and everything else.

1269
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:40,079
Speaker 4: True. So I know this is kind of a loaded question.

1270
01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:47,319
What is the the most chilling cryptid encounter that you've

1271
01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:49,399
ever heard or featured on your show?

1272
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 3: Oh, Man, Doug, I've had so many. Oh uh see,

1273
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:01,720
we just had Joe bargeron. He had a dog man

1274
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,359
encounter in the Maniste National Forest where he actually shot

1275
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:09,880
one and killed it. He was a long hauler drove

1276
01:19:10,119 --> 01:19:13,479
you know, over the road for the week, and he

1277
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,640
had just picked up a load and he was going

1278
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,840
through the Maniste National Forest and he was getting some

1279
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:25,600
really weird readings on his air pressure. So he decided

1280
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:30,000
to pull over and got out of his truck and

1281
01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:31,840
found that there was an air leak on one of

1282
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:36,000
his airlines for his air brakes. And he didn't really

1283
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,079
want to sit around and wait for service to come

1284
01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:41,279
out there and fix it. He already had, you know.

1285
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:44,680
He says, he carries the essentials on his truck to

1286
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,960
make repairs like that where they'll hold enough until he

1287
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,640
can get it into a shop and get it professionally repaired.

1288
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:55,800
So he fixes his truck and then he gets back in,

1289
01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:00,000
starts it up and starts taking off, and here's his noise,

1290
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:02,960
and he's not sure what it is. And he looks

1291
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:07,239
over out the passenger side window and looks at the

1292
01:20:07,239 --> 01:20:15,399
mirror and sees this thing running alongside of his truck.

1293
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,840
And he's going up like a gradual incline. So he

1294
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,840
can't just and if anybody's ever been in a rig

1295
01:20:24,319 --> 01:20:26,479
or have driven a rig, you know you just can't

1296
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,600
go from zero to sixty like that. It's gonna take

1297
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,560
some time to get that truck and go through those

1298
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,479
gears to get it up to the speech you need to,

1299
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,800
he says. By that time, he goes and he looks

1300
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,319
and he sees this thing now staring at him through

1301
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:45,560
his passenger window. He sits about ten or about nine

1302
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,000
to ten feet up up in his cab, in this truck,

1303
01:20:49,399 --> 01:20:52,560
and this thing was like looking in on him, and

1304
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,520
he said, I believe he said it was trying to

1305
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,840
open up his door, his passenger door, and he had

1306
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,600
a firearm, and he pulled out his firearm and shot it,

1307
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,520
shot at it twice. He knows he hit it once.

1308
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,600
He believes he hit it in the eye. And he

1309
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,880
looked out out the mirror as it had dropped and rolled.

1310
01:21:12,399 --> 01:21:16,079
He kept going, went to turn around. So he turned around,

1311
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:22,560
came back, and by the time he got back the

1312
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,159
the dog Man was nowhere to be seen. You could

1313
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:29,600
definitely see where there was. There was a ton of

1314
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,880
blood on the ground. But there were also two people

1315
01:21:34,399 --> 01:21:38,640
in a black vehicle that he believes was like a Jeep,

1316
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:43,640
Grand Cherokee or something. They were both wearing like khaki

1317
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:49,760
cargo pants and like a polo shirt. And when he

1318
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,000
slowed down his truck to ask if they needed help,

1319
01:21:52,039 --> 01:21:54,680
he's like, hey, you know what happened here? Do you

1320
01:21:54,720 --> 01:22:00,720
need help? Second they're like, oh no, no, you know,

1321
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,399
we don't need help. We were just watching two bears

1322
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,840
fight and then they ran off. Well, yeah, I don't

1323
01:22:08,399 --> 01:22:13,800
believe that. And you know, a little while after that happened,

1324
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:20,319
he gets a knock on the door and he answers

1325
01:22:20,359 --> 01:22:22,319
and the people go, you know, they talk to him,

1326
01:22:22,319 --> 01:22:25,560
they identify themselves and they let him know that he

1327
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,880
had taken out one of their assets and he's not

1328
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,800
to say anything. He's not to you know, talk about it.

1329
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:40,000
It never happened. And even one time he said that

1330
01:22:40,039 --> 01:22:44,680
they even locked his checking his bank account just to

1331
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,520
prove that they could do what they wanted to do

1332
01:22:47,359 --> 01:22:51,399
and there was nothing that they could do about it.

1333
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 4: Interesting. So when you hear something like that that sounds

1334
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:05,479
pretty fantastic, do you have a skeptical side to you

1335
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,920
that goes it's unverified? Do you think or do you

1336
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,640
judge him by his sincerity? What do you what do

1337
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,439
you do well at that point when you have somebody

1338
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,479
on that's I mean, that's a fantastic story.

1339
01:23:20,199 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 3: It's an absolutely amazing So and by the way, I

1340
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,920
sent him a text message and asked him if he'd

1341
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,600
be available to come on your show. By the way,

1342
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:34,680
so oh yeah, but you know, I think I think

1343
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,479
with my background being in the military, working in the

1344
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,600
Department of Corrections, you know, that gives me an edge,

1345
01:23:41,159 --> 01:23:43,560
not a big one, but an edge over most people

1346
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:48,199
that deal with interviewing people on a daily basis because

1347
01:23:49,039 --> 01:23:51,840
I learned how to read people's body language. I learned

1348
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,760
how to read their facial expressions. You can definitely tell something,

1349
01:23:56,319 --> 01:23:58,720
you know, by the tone of their voice, if it

1350
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,560
raises or lowers. You know, you kind of pick up

1351
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,760
on little things. I don't have any I don't have

1352
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,199
any reason not to believe him at all. And That's

1353
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:12,399
the way I look at it. When most people, you know,

1354
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,880
pretty much all people come on my show, because you know,

1355
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:23,920
how can you, with all one certainty check out their

1356
01:24:24,119 --> 01:24:28,199
entire story? You really can't do. Some people embellish their

1357
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:31,119
stories a little bit. I think everybody embellish is a

1358
01:24:31,159 --> 01:24:32,359
story of time or two.

1359
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,039
Speaker 4: Right, And it's not it's not our job too. It's

1360
01:24:35,079 --> 01:24:41,239
really not our uh doubt or do anything. It's our

1361
01:24:41,279 --> 01:24:43,159
doubt to get the information from.

1362
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:50,199
Speaker 3: Them, right from you know, their story, right A hundred.

1363
01:24:51,039 --> 01:24:53,199
That's funny. Yeah, I heard him smash it. I heard

1364
01:24:53,279 --> 01:24:56,279
him smash it on his h on his keyboard. That's fantastic,

1365
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:57,920
you know.

1366
01:24:58,359 --> 01:25:04,119
Speaker 4: That's design, that's awesome.

1367
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 3: I'm trying to give everybody, you know, the benefit of

1368
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,560
the doubt, you know. And you know, has it come

1369
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:09,920
back to.

1370
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,239
Speaker 4: Burn me yet?

1371
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what a time or two. But you know,

1372
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,560
I just kind of roll with the punches and keep

1373
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:19,039
on going.

1374
01:25:19,319 --> 01:25:21,319
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but you know, and I've had people call

1375
01:25:21,399 --> 01:25:23,399
me after a show and they go, well, how do

1376
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,880
you you know, how do you buying into this and

1377
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,680
that and portals or whatever. It's like, hey, that's not

1378
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:33,479
my job, right jobsted let them tell their story. Yep,

1379
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,640
it's your job if you believe them not believe them.

1380
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,800
It's not my job as all. I've listened to other

1381
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,319
podcasts where the host is judgy. It's really awkward, and

1382
01:25:46,359 --> 01:25:49,079
then it's really uncomfortable for the host to be judgy.

1383
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 3: Now there's times where I'll ask pretty hard questions, you know,

1384
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,239
And it's not that I'm trying to disprove them or

1385
01:25:56,279 --> 01:25:59,399
make them feel bad or anything like that, because I'm

1386
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,960
trying to ask the questions that I know are going

1387
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:07,319
to come, that I know are going to come, you know,

1388
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,960
and so like, you know, well, how do you know this?

1389
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:12,560
Or how do you know that? Or you know what

1390
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,479
what how did you come to that conclusion or you

1391
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,960
know that. That's that's what I try to do. And

1392
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,520
again it's not me trying to disprove them or discredit them.

1393
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,279
It's just and I tell them, I says, you know,

1394
01:26:25,279 --> 01:26:28,000
I'm gonna ask some questions that I think people are

1395
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,600
going to want to ask, that are going to want

1396
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,239
to know the answers to I said, this isn't coming

1397
01:26:32,279 --> 01:26:34,239
for me, you know, these are just questions that are

1398
01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:36,600
coming in my mind that I think you might see

1399
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,399
if you look at the chat, so you know, and

1400
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,720
then I just you know it kind of I guess

1401
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,880
takes the air of some people's sales if they want

1402
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,279
to get into the chat and start trying to ridicule

1403
01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:48,920
person or or start trashing them, because that's the last

1404
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,640
thing I want to happen in any of my chats.

1405
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,279
Has happened well.

1406
01:26:51,279 --> 01:26:54,079
Speaker 4: Even okay, so a few things. So even if a

1407
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:59,000
guest turns off your audience, that doesn't mean the next

1408
01:26:59,159 --> 01:27:01,560
the next guest is going to turn you off.

1409
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 3: That's correct.

1410
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 4: I don't go, oh, I'm only going to get woo people. Oh,

1411
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,399
I'm only going to get flesh and blood people. I'm

1412
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,039
only going to get this. I don't judge, because that

1413
01:27:11,079 --> 01:27:14,199
would what do I think I'm smarter than them? Or

1414
01:27:15,159 --> 01:27:17,479
who am I to poo poo their experience?

1415
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 3: Exactly, it's not my job.

1416
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,039
Speaker 4: It's really not. Our job is just to bring stories

1417
01:27:23,079 --> 01:27:26,640
to you. That definitely is for sure the audience's job.

1418
01:27:27,119 --> 01:27:28,319
Jeremiah said, ah.

1419
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I love Jeremiah, and I actually Roger's in

1420
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,479
the house, so that's awesome too. But yeah, you know,

1421
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,199
it's funny. It's like, you know, I'll talk about my

1422
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:36,479
military service and people.

1423
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 4: But I hold on, hold on one second, Jeff, if

1424
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,880
you put your email address, if any of you guys

1425
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,119
that are that have a mic handy and you have

1426
01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:50,119
your setup, if Jeff put your email address up and

1427
01:27:50,199 --> 01:27:52,880
we'll you know, you can just say, yeah, we'll send

1428
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:57,840
you a joint link Jeremiah Roger whoever, because we want

1429
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:03,479
to talk about Yeah, And there's a lot of weird

1430
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,960
things happening, especially now because people are less afraid to

1431
01:28:08,039 --> 01:28:08,560
report it.

1432
01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 3: And you know, I had that exact conversation with somebody

1433
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,479
and they asked me, you know, why do I think

1434
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,319
why why do I think that more reports are coming out?

1435
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,680
Do you think it's they're people trying to jump on

1436
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,359
the bandwagon to make themselves give them fifteen minutes of fame?

1437
01:28:30,199 --> 01:28:33,560
Or is it like you just said there, Because it's

1438
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:39,119
now so mainstream that that people are beginning are getting

1439
01:28:39,239 --> 01:28:44,359
less and less afraid to come out with their encounters,

1440
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,279
you know. And one thing that I have noticed, I'm

1441
01:28:47,319 --> 01:28:49,520
seeing a lot of people that are around my age

1442
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,319
are a little older than me, you know, I'll say

1443
01:28:52,359 --> 01:28:55,720
between fifty and eighty that are coming out with stories

1444
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,039
that have that had them way back in the seventies

1445
01:28:58,119 --> 01:29:00,600
or way back in the eighties, you know, and you

1446
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,720
know they've held on to him their whole life, and

1447
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,920
now they're seeing these things. You know, the grandkids are

1448
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,000
showing them how to mess around on YouTube, and they find,

1449
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:11,000
you know, all of a sudden, they find your show,

1450
01:29:11,079 --> 01:29:12,840
or they find my show, or they find you know,

1451
01:29:13,239 --> 01:29:15,600
you know, any of the dozens of other shows out there,

1452
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,920
you know that talk about these things, and they may

1453
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,479
catch them an interview or a picture being shown during

1454
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,079
an interview of what they saw or renditional what they saw.

1455
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:30,600
They're like, oh my gosh, that's what I saw. And

1456
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,840
now they're at more app to come out here and say, yes,

1457
01:29:34,359 --> 01:29:37,359
I had this encounter, it was this time, this is

1458
01:29:37,399 --> 01:29:40,279
when it happened. I was this old and I have

1459
01:29:40,399 --> 01:29:43,720
not been able to talk about this for fifty years,

1460
01:29:44,159 --> 01:29:44,359
you know.

1461
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,520
Speaker 4: So did the gentleman ever tell you back to that

1462
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:56,239
story what he meant by or what those people meant

1463
01:29:56,239 --> 01:30:00,640
by you killed one of our assents. What would you

1464
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,000
possibly use a dog man for?

1465
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think? I don't know what

1466
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,720
you're in my opinion, I think that it's it's well

1467
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,720
right there, I am the key. I'm VICKI I think

1468
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,239
that's what that's clever. They use dog manicuelle people. They

1469
01:30:19,319 --> 01:30:21,840
use dog Man as a weapon. Absolutely, they weaponize it.

1470
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,680
That's what I think. And again, but here here's my thing,

1471
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,920
you guys, I.

1472
01:30:26,039 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I want to qualify what he says.

1473
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,520
He thinks doesn't mean he believes it.

1474
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,039
Speaker 9: Itied crap.

1475
01:30:34,319 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, unverified crap.

1476
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,279
Speaker 4: It's a lot of unverified crap.

1477
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:44,359
Speaker 3: But you know, you know, I'm on the team of

1478
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,439
flesh and blood because everything I've encountered was flesh and blood.

1479
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,800
Very credible people that I know have seen things come

1480
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:59,079
out of portals or you know, they've you know, teleported

1481
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,920
or or what not. I'm not saying that it's not possible.

1482
01:31:04,079 --> 01:31:06,880
I just haven't seen it. And when someone comes to

1483
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,199
me with a story like that, I'm not going to

1484
01:31:08,279 --> 01:31:11,800
try to disprove them. It's just one more story to

1485
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,920
add to the dozens of other stories that I've heard

1486
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:22,399
that just gives it that much more substance of being true.

1487
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 4: You know, this is a kind of an interesting theory too,

1488
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:31,239
that they use them to chase people away from certain areas.

1489
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:46,399
Speaker 3: Because a lot of times.

1490
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:50,399
Speaker 4: There you go, thank you, you.

1491
01:31:50,359 --> 01:31:54,239
Speaker 3: Know, but It's like you'll hear a lot of stories

1492
01:31:54,399 --> 01:31:59,479
of people out in the middle of nowhere, like legit,

1493
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,640
there are like a super long, you know, back mountain,

1494
01:32:04,039 --> 01:32:08,199
backcountry hike with a group of friends and all of

1495
01:32:08,239 --> 01:32:11,239
a sudden they're here steel door slam shut, or they're

1496
01:32:11,279 --> 01:32:15,239
hearing metal grinding on something and they're like, what is

1497
01:32:15,279 --> 01:32:18,439
that noise? I don't know? And I've had people, you know,

1498
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,520
tell me they've heard that noise, and my question is, well,

1499
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,119
what do you think it is? You're like, well, I

1500
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:24,600
don't know.

1501
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people do here like doors slamming, yep,

1502
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,640
in the middle of the woods, which is completely unverified.

1503
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,840
It could be crap, but it could be true. No.

1504
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,079
I mean, I'm Joe, you can't remember. I've been joking

1505
01:32:41,119 --> 01:32:43,479
around a lot just because I'm in that kind of

1506
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,840
I'm in that tall mood today.

1507
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:53,079
Speaker 3: If you fill a couple of inches taller just make.

1508
01:32:58,119 --> 01:33:01,399
Speaker 4: And then you have the zippers all these weird, metallic

1509
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:05,279
y strange sounds. But you know what's cool is when

1510
01:33:05,319 --> 01:33:08,199
it does get verified by another witness.

1511
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,520
Speaker 3: YEP, like they didn't know that.

1512
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 4: This guy heard zah blah blah, and then Adam, he

1513
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,920
never heard of was such a thing called a zipper sound.

1514
01:33:16,279 --> 01:33:20,399
But his wife was camped out with him one night

1515
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:26,359
on his thirty day quest and Adam hears a zipper

1516
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:30,279
sound outside the tent. But he's like but he asked

1517
01:33:30,279 --> 01:33:32,880
his wife, did you on zip your sleeping bag? And

1518
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:36,840
she's like no, And he hears the sleeping bag on

1519
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,439
zipping or something similar to a zip you know ye.

1520
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,680
And then we were up at sell Grove and Adam

1521
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,520
comes in one day early morning, was like five in

1522
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,960
the morning, and he comes in and he goes, I

1523
01:33:49,039 --> 01:33:53,279
just turned the zip zip zip, zip zip sound outside

1524
01:33:53,359 --> 01:33:55,920
and then he he thought, well, I'm gonna talk to

1525
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,399
the zip sound. And then all of a sudden he

1526
01:33:58,399 --> 01:34:02,199
hears zip zip. There's really a low one and then

1527
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:04,119
the little one quit yep.

1528
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: And here's my thing. I think they're mimics. I think

1529
01:34:07,039 --> 01:34:10,359
it's a sasquatch. They've been known to mimic sounds and voices.

1530
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:12,920
I mean, how many stories have you heard, and I'm

1531
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,760
talking even to the chat you guys. How many times

1532
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,520
you guys heard a story where Joe Schmoe was on

1533
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,439
the back deck and joined a cup of coffee and

1534
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,319
all of a sudden he hears his name being called

1535
01:34:25,359 --> 01:34:28,399
from the woods. That sounds like his wife, and he

1536
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,520
knows darn good well his wife just got into the shower,

1537
01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:34,640
yet he's hearing her voice call his name out in

1538
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:39,319
the woods. It happens all the time, you know. Or

1539
01:34:39,359 --> 01:34:42,640
you'll hear like a mom out in the backyard working

1540
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:47,800
in her garden, and she'll hear her kids laughing, and

1541
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,520
her kids are either in the house, or they're over

1542
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,279
grandma and Grandpa's house, or they're over with their dad,

1543
01:34:53,319 --> 01:34:56,359
if she's a single mom. You know. So I mean,

1544
01:34:56,399 --> 01:35:00,880
think about it, you know, could it have been, like

1545
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,560
like you said, could Adam and maybe heard something mimicking

1546
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:04,560
that zipper sound?

1547
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:12,199
Speaker 4: Sure? Yeah, absolutely. But Managa Hala believes, and he's another

1548
01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:16,520
sound expert, that that sound is their word for human

1549
01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:21,000
because he's heard it too many times in the company

1550
01:35:21,079 --> 01:35:25,600
of people or near people, and he kind of you know,

1551
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:29,920
once again, it's an unverified theory. Go ahead, Jeff, it's

1552
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:37,880
a it's unverified, but it makes sense. You know, it's unverified,

1553
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,079
but it makes sense. So there you go.

1554
01:35:40,319 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 9: I'm gonna keep that one handy.

1555
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Somebody David Birch said, hear my

1556
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,199
wife calling to me creepy style from out of the woods.

1557
01:35:55,279 --> 01:35:59,680
I'm leaving smoke Scooby Doo style. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1558
01:36:00,039 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 3: That is hilarious.

1559
01:36:01,039 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of hunters that I don't know

1560
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,880
if you've ever heard about this, Daniel, but hunters here

1561
01:36:08,039 --> 01:36:12,880
like a little child calling them for help, yep. And

1562
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,520
that is the creepiest thing. And I've heard this personally

1563
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,119
from three hunters going I'm out on the woods and

1564
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:23,640
I'm hearing what sounds like a little child calling me

1565
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,960
for help. And I started walking towards it, and then

1566
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,720
I hit him, this could be a trap of some sort.

1567
01:36:31,359 --> 01:36:35,279
Speaker 3: Have you heard of the East Texas gollum? Have you

1568
01:36:35,319 --> 01:36:35,920
heard that story?

1569
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 4: Yes, I've heard of Yeah, I've heard these terms.

1570
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 3: Oh go ahead where Okay, So this guy uh got

1571
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,119
a hunting lease with somebodies of his yes, William, you

1572
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:52,399
can you know? And he wanted to kind of up

1573
01:36:52,399 --> 01:36:54,800
his hunting game because they were out there hunting wild,

1574
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,159
wild pigs. Right, So he goes and spends like three

1575
01:36:58,279 --> 01:37:00,920
to six thousand or five to six thousand dollars for

1576
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,039
a new thermal scope to put on his rifle. And

1577
01:37:04,079 --> 01:37:05,720
so he decides he wants to go out one night

1578
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,159
and test it out. So he goes out to their

1579
01:37:07,239 --> 01:37:09,880
hunt and least he sets up on this tree and

1580
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:14,720
he's there for about an hour, right yeah, and nothing

1581
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,640
nothing at all around, piney woods and brush and all

1582
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,520
that type of stuff. So he gets up. He's like, hey,

1583
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,000
I might as well move over here. Maybe I'll get

1584
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,439
a different angle and sees things I'm not really sure.

1585
01:37:27,279 --> 01:37:31,079
So he goes and moves about one hundred and fifty

1586
01:37:31,159 --> 01:37:35,359
yards away, and he sets up on this tree and

1587
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,079
he is sitting there waiting. He's looking through his scope.

1588
01:37:38,119 --> 01:37:42,520
All of a sudden he sees something moving through like

1589
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,600
the piney woods. He's like, what is that? So he's

1590
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,760
looking through a thermal and he says, what is that?

1591
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,439
He said, it looks like a person. He first he

1592
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:52,760
thought it might have been a bear, but then a

1593
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,039
way it moved. He goes, that's a person. And it

1594
01:37:56,079 --> 01:38:00,880
was kind of moving on all you known hands and feet. Well,

1595
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,439
it goes to the tree that he was sitting up

1596
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,359
at before, and he said, this thing was fixated on

1597
01:38:07,079 --> 01:38:10,560
the tree, like it was sniffing and sniffings where he was.

1598
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,800
His back was up against the tree, sniffing the bark,

1599
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,600
he said, All a sudden, the thing squats and puts

1600
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:21,359
his hands behind its legs as it's squatting down, and

1601
01:38:21,359 --> 01:38:23,479
it starts sniffing the air, and it looks around. All

1602
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,760
of a sudden, it lifts its head up and he hears,

1603
01:38:27,319 --> 01:38:34,560
help help me, I need help, And he's like, what

1604
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,479
the heck is going on? He says, what he heard

1605
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:40,399
was a woman's voice. So he's still looking to this thing,

1606
01:38:41,319 --> 01:38:45,920
and then he hears again, help help me.

1607
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:48,199
Speaker 4: I'm hurt.

1608
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 3: Can someone help me? And he said, it started looking

1609
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,840
around and it kind of looked at him in his direction,

1610
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,079
so he took a shot at it over its head

1611
01:38:58,119 --> 01:38:59,760
because he still wasn't sure if this is a person,

1612
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:05,319
and this thing didn't even move, so then he takes

1613
01:39:05,359 --> 01:39:08,319
another shot at it, and that's when it took off,

1614
01:39:08,359 --> 01:39:10,880
and it took off in the opposite direction that it came,

1615
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,920
which just so happened to be the opposite direction where

1616
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,800
his truck was. So he grabbed his stuff and ran

1617
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:22,079
his truck and got out of there. But I mean, again,

1618
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,119
you hear people saying, well, I heard someone saying, Oh,

1619
01:39:25,159 --> 01:39:27,560
what I heard was yelling mommy, or was crying for

1620
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,520
mom or mommy, you know, and then you have people

1621
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,520
that are saying you know that you know, uh, big

1622
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,479
cats make certain noises. I mean from being from the

1623
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,800
Pacific Northwest, I mean I've heard cougars and mountain lions

1624
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,239
and kits and things like that, their cubs, you know,

1625
01:39:45,359 --> 01:39:49,159
I've never heard them make noises like children laughing.

1626
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 4: Well not talking.

1627
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but I.

1628
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:57,279
Speaker 4: Mean Roger's surprise, guest.

1629
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,399
Speaker 3: Who do we got here? What's up? Brother?

1630
01:40:00,079 --> 01:40:00,199
Speaker 7: Up?

1631
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:00,319
Speaker 4: Then?

1632
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:01,399
Speaker 9: What's up?

1633
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 4: Man? Uh? By the way, uh, we have named and

1634
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,000
you'll be proud of us. We have named a group

1635
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:11,119
of Sasquatches a band of boogers, so you would be

1636
01:40:11,239 --> 01:40:12,199
very proud of us.

1637
01:40:12,359 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 10: Roger, Yes, sir, I didn't know they were boogers until

1638
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,600
about six years ago. I mean, nobody talks about it

1639
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,279
around here. So when I started meeting some of the

1640
01:40:23,319 --> 01:40:27,399
southern people, uh, they were talking about boogers, and I'm like, well, okay, this,

1641
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:28,720
I guess we can call them that.

1642
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:33,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh. I think it's a great name. But really,

1643
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,840
nobody has ever named We were naming all these different like, uh,

1644
01:40:37,039 --> 01:40:40,760
what a tall of drafts?

1645
01:40:40,399 --> 01:40:42,119
Speaker 3: What are some wattle of penguins?

1646
01:40:42,279 --> 01:40:47,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's all these interesting names, but no one ever

1647
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,319
has named a group of bigfoots.

1648
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,199
Speaker 3: So flat well, Flathead did a band of.

1649
01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:58,239
Speaker 4: Boogers, So that's the official term.

1650
01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 10: Now I'm gonna get that tattoo up. Yeah.

1651
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 3: Well see, I remember my nanny, my great grandma, talking

1652
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,439
about boogers always when I was a little kid living

1653
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,640
in West Virginia. Man, my great grandmother, if me and

1654
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,680
my cousins were out getting stupid, you know, acting like

1655
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,399
a bunch of crazy fools, she'd like, you, boys, you

1656
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,600
better not go off them boys and get stupid, because

1657
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,319
them boogers they'll get you and we'll never see you

1658
01:41:27,359 --> 01:41:30,399
guys again. Oh damn.

1659
01:41:31,239 --> 01:41:34,279
Speaker 10: Now, I remember the older folks talking about the boogers

1660
01:41:34,279 --> 01:41:37,800
getting you, but I just assumed it's the boogieman or

1661
01:41:38,039 --> 01:41:40,199
you know, goat or just trying to scare us or whatever.

1662
01:41:40,279 --> 01:41:44,359
But after I heard the term and started talking to

1663
01:41:44,359 --> 01:41:46,520
people like, wait a minute, you know, maybe, and the

1664
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,600
more reports I get from this area from back in

1665
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,119
the sixties and seventies, well maybe they did mean that.

1666
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:59,039
Speaker 15: Oh absolutely, Okay, I gotta get this thing on track here,

1667
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:03,239
less unverified crops.

1668
01:42:04,079 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 3: Do you guys?

1669
01:42:05,279 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 4: Do you guys both kind of lean towards the paranormal

1670
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,680
camp when it comes to all of these weird cryptids

1671
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:20,319
like the gollum, the the rake, these winged humanoids and

1672
01:42:20,399 --> 01:42:23,319
things like that, or do you put all of them

1673
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,439
in that camp or do you put none of them

1674
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:26,039
in that camp?

1675
01:42:27,039 --> 01:42:30,039
Speaker 3: Well, the pell crawlers, the rakes, whatever you want to

1676
01:42:30,039 --> 01:42:34,479
call them, even the even the the East East Texas Gollum.

1677
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,640
I think those are all one and the same thing. Yeah,

1678
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,600
I don't know about a paranormal side of them because

1679
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:45,399
what I saw when I was seventeen was flesh and blood. Yeah,

1680
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:51,439
you know, and I can't say that that it was one. Uh,

1681
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,279
if there's paranormal activity because what I heard and what

1682
01:42:54,319 --> 01:42:59,119
I saw, I don't know. See Mixy is saying, you know, demons,

1683
01:42:59,159 --> 01:43:01,600
there is there is that possibilities. Some people think that

1684
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,960
they're demons. And again, you guys, when it comes to

1685
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,760
the realm of cryptis whether you considered it encrypted or

1686
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:11,720
not encryptied. I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong.

1687
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,399
I'm just gonna say I haven't yet encountered it yet.

1688
01:43:16,039 --> 01:43:19,720
So that's why I'm leaning towards what I lean towards

1689
01:43:20,279 --> 01:43:22,039
until I see it myself.

1690
01:43:23,159 --> 01:43:25,319
Speaker 4: I gotcha. Okay, so you don't lean that way the

1691
01:43:25,399 --> 01:43:27,399
pure normal. What do you roger.

1692
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:32,319
Speaker 10: The true answers? I don't know. I'm like Daniel. Unless

1693
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:37,239
I see something, I'll listen to somebody's story. And if

1694
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:42,079
I hear ten stories and these things, I have a description,

1695
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:44,199
and maybe you can go look, you know, two thousand

1696
01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:47,800
years ago and see what something similar was called. You

1697
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,319
just think about the first person to ever see an airplane.

1698
01:43:50,359 --> 01:43:52,439
I've talked to people that saw, you know, they didn't

1699
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,079
know what it was, and they thought it was some

1700
01:43:54,079 --> 01:43:57,199
type of monsters. So I think the best thing to

1701
01:43:57,199 --> 01:44:01,239
do is just go back my personal thoughts on some

1702
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:04,920
of this, though I never really thought about it until

1703
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,920
the past six years. It may be something biblical, It

1704
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:15,720
maybe something because I've taken reports from this county of

1705
01:44:16,039 --> 01:44:19,000
a winged creature that landed on an airport fence and

1706
01:44:19,079 --> 01:44:22,039
the fence is still bent. I went, I drove by

1707
01:44:22,079 --> 01:44:24,640
there as close to my son's house, and I believe

1708
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,399
this guy. I mean, he's my son's age and he's

1709
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,600
not into all this subject these subjects we're talking about.

1710
01:44:31,279 --> 01:44:33,720
And he came clean one night and he said, I

1711
01:44:34,199 --> 01:44:36,119
need to talk to you, but you're gonna think I'm crazy,

1712
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,079
so but really I don't. I don't know. That's one

1713
01:44:40,079 --> 01:44:42,760
thing I'm trying to figure out. I really don't want

1714
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:46,159
to see anything like that. You know. We saw some

1715
01:44:46,199 --> 01:44:51,840
strange lights last night and in the woods.

1716
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 4: It's last night.

1717
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 10: Last night, my son and I about fifteen foot behind

1718
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,239
the ceater up off the around this look a camera

1719
01:45:01,319 --> 01:45:04,479
flash And I said, I just got a flash over here,

1720
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,520
and we've seen orders there before. And then he saw

1721
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,199
it two more times, but it was navigating through the woods.

1722
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:11,560
I have no idea what that was.

1723
01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 9: Could it?

1724
01:45:14,119 --> 01:45:17,199
Speaker 10: Could it be something strange like we talk about. I

1725
01:45:17,239 --> 01:45:21,319
have no explanation. So that's that's the way I am

1726
01:45:21,359 --> 01:45:23,119
with this other stuff. I had a lady asked me

1727
01:45:23,159 --> 01:45:26,520
in the interview one time about the same question about

1728
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,600
the tie between aliens and bfoot whatever, and I have

1729
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,479
had no answer. But I said, ma'am, if I if

1730
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,600
I see a big footstep out of the UFO, you'll

1731
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,119
be the first I'll call per first person. So it it.

1732
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,560
You have to experience some of these things too. You

1733
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,640
can have opinions. But like Daniel when he when he

1734
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,720
saw what he saw, then I'll sit here and like, Daniel,

1735
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,520
are you sure it was what you saw or was

1736
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:57,319
it something representing something else? That's always a possibility too.

1737
01:45:58,239 --> 01:45:58,359
Speaker 4: Uh.

1738
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:03,199
Speaker 10: I've seen things that I can't explain, and it just

1739
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,399
the way we said all the time. It just it

1740
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,880
brings more questions to the table than anything. But at

1741
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,319
least we're at least we're exploring that, you know, maybe

1742
01:46:11,319 --> 01:46:12,760
we will find a nature.

1743
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So these orbs you saw last snake, were

1744
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:20,800
they just flashing or were they like constant on?

1745
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 10: Ever, it looked like you were up in a tree

1746
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,600
fifteen foot and you know those old flash cameras I'm

1747
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:36,560
sure you used or invented. Uh No, it was it

1748
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,960
lit up behind the cedar and I could tell. That's

1749
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:41,279
how I knew it was behind it. But it was

1750
01:46:41,279 --> 01:46:46,800
about fifteen foot up and we were looking for uh

1751
01:46:47,119 --> 01:46:49,439
it was twenty yards to the edge of the woods,

1752
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:53,800
so it was another another fifteen feet inside. Maybe is

1753
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,279
this verified? I don't have it on. I don't know.

1754
01:46:57,279 --> 01:46:58,359
I've missed the conversation.

1755
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:05,079
Speaker 3: You better, you better thrown up there you go unverified crap.

1756
01:47:05,399 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're home of unverified crap right there.

1757
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,359
Speaker 10: And that's the thing when you when you experience these things.

1758
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,880
It's so hard to catch, you know. We we caught

1759
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,000
that amazing orb on thermal, but that was by accident,

1760
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,520
you know. I wasn't setting up trying to get an orb.

1761
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,239
It just happened, and I feel fortunate that it happened.

1762
01:47:24,239 --> 01:47:28,680
But yeah, most of this stuff is unverified, and it's

1763
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:32,000
always gonna be unverified. Because I was standing behind Gary

1764
01:47:32,079 --> 01:47:34,920
Spike a few weeks ago when we had a tree

1765
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,119
picker peek out in the daylight. Yeah, and he hit

1766
01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:40,640
the button that I saw him hit it.

1767
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 3: It was perfect timing.

1768
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,319
Speaker 10: Now we've got this picture that only two peemple on

1769
01:47:44,319 --> 01:47:46,520
the planet know that it moved and peaked out twice.

1770
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can see you can see the thing, I mean,

1771
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,199
the creature and the thing I mean, you see they

1772
01:47:53,239 --> 01:47:57,319
ad and you guys claim that it was that was

1773
01:47:57,359 --> 01:48:00,359
all gone, and Adam even set up cameras there.

1774
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, and so people that don't know all we could do. Uh.

1775
01:48:06,199 --> 01:48:09,279
I went straight to it and we found we found

1776
01:48:09,359 --> 01:48:12,840
impressions at luck footprints. We had a master tracker I

1777
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,319
call him, but he came in and we followed and

1778
01:48:15,399 --> 01:48:17,600
the sound I heard, the way it went. We we

1779
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:19,720
found disturbances and it was about four or four and

1780
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:23,199
a half feet up the hill between footsteps. So, uh,

1781
01:48:23,239 --> 01:48:26,079
even though we know the pictures in the video is

1782
01:48:26,119 --> 01:48:29,520
not going to prove anything but for our own benefit,

1783
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,479
and so we could go back and tell people this

1784
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,840
is what we did after, this is what we found.

1785
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,600
And you know, it doesn't mean anything as far as

1786
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:43,920
identifying what it was. But I've never I've never seen

1787
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,560
any of that lot. It actually peaked out and did take.

1788
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 4: Well, there's a there's a bunch of theories on these orbs.

1789
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,479
Do you think they're a sentient, like like they're a

1790
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,720
living some kind of strange, living biological creature that LAIDs

1791
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,640
up per Do you think they're like from another planet

1792
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,800
or do you think they're just part of the forests

1793
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,119
that we don't understand.

1794
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 10: Well, I've had people tell me what they've been told

1795
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,399
and have been passed down through families. But here's what

1796
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,840
I tell you. When I was looking through that it

1797
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,880
was a really expensive, really good thermal and I call

1798
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:23,000
them probably the wrong thing. They was a thermal, but

1799
01:49:23,079 --> 01:49:27,920
it looked like through the eyepiece it was it was

1800
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:32,399
like four K ultra clear like a video game and

1801
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:36,600
this thing was perfectly round, and it had a membrane

1802
01:49:37,319 --> 01:49:40,199
that was visible. It had a nucleus and it will

1803
01:49:40,239 --> 01:49:45,119
see through. And it was pulsating slowly so and it moved,

1804
01:49:45,279 --> 01:49:48,359
and it moved like something alive. So whatever you take

1805
01:49:48,399 --> 01:49:51,319
from that, I can't tell you what it was. But

1806
01:49:51,359 --> 01:49:53,119
here's the thing though, I sent that to a lot

1807
01:49:53,159 --> 01:49:55,680
of people and nobody can tell.

1808
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:56,159
Speaker 9: Me what it was.

1809
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 3: I never got it.

1810
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 10: Yes, we probably showed it on your show, but what

1811
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:03,000
is with.

1812
01:50:03,039 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 4: You and orbs because you had one like go into

1813
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:06,079
your tent?

1814
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,520
Speaker 10: Yes, and I wasn't.

1815
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 4: Other people saw it. You didn't even see it, but

1816
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:11,960
other people verified there.

1817
01:50:12,359 --> 01:50:14,279
Speaker 10: There were eight people that saw this thing.

1818
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

1819
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,560
Speaker 10: We we set up, We left, went checked into the cabin,

1820
01:50:18,039 --> 01:50:20,520
came back the next day and people surrounded the truck, like,

1821
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:22,479
what do you have in your tent that can glow

1822
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:25,119
over there? There's nothing in there that go look and

1823
01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:28,560
I showed them there's nothing here, and uh they Lori

1824
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:32,279
Lad says she saw it flash outside of it and

1825
01:50:32,319 --> 01:50:35,960
then either it went inside or disappeared and showed up inside.

1826
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,600
It looked green and it was moving around.

1827
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 4: It was moving around inside the tent.

1828
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,560
Speaker 10: They could they could see it the little wall.

1829
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:45,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen ors. I've seen.

1830
01:50:45,119 --> 01:50:47,119
Speaker 4: You didn't sleep in there that night, though, did you?

1831
01:50:47,199 --> 01:50:52,520
Speaker 10: Roger didn't at that location. I didn't sleep there any night.

1832
01:50:53,199 --> 01:50:56,960
That's why I had a cabin. I learned a lot.

1833
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, just a very us. You didn't sleep in

1834
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,319
the tent with the York correct.

1835
01:51:06,319 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 10: No good, And you asked me a question like I

1836
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,520
think you asked me did it surprise you or whatever?

1837
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,079
And at this point the things we've seen, no, it

1838
01:51:18,119 --> 01:51:20,439
doesn't surprise me. And I don't know why it's always

1839
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,720
around my stuff. But I had a people start was

1840
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,159
calling me lucky Roger there for a little while, and

1841
01:51:27,159 --> 01:51:29,319
then I finally I started thinking, well, what if it

1842
01:51:29,399 --> 01:51:32,319
is something about me? I need to be checking into this.

1843
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,600
I don't know, I don't know what it is. But

1844
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:38,720
but the good thing is I've never told a story

1845
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,399
that there wasn't at least one more to multiple witness

1846
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:46,159
to witnesses or we caught on audio or videos. So

1847
01:51:48,079 --> 01:51:51,600
there's some stories that we've seen things, and it's just

1848
01:51:53,159 --> 01:51:58,199
it's happened so much it's almost it's almost getting to

1849
01:51:58,239 --> 01:52:01,560
be expected. I guess, Oh, this sounds weird, but have

1850
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:02,279
you ever seen.

1851
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:07,239
Speaker 3: An orb, Daniel, I've seen tons of orbs, but I

1852
01:52:07,319 --> 01:52:09,560
just I don't I don't really talk about them because

1853
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,079
they're paranormal to me. And and from what I understand

1854
01:52:14,079 --> 01:52:20,880
from my great grandma and my grandma, those are wandering souls.

1855
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,760
Not necessarily they're not malevolent, but they're just wandering souls.

1856
01:52:25,319 --> 01:52:28,399
I remember seeing them when I lived in uh Uh

1857
01:52:29,399 --> 01:52:32,479
near Huntington, West Virginia. We lived up in this haller

1858
01:52:34,119 --> 01:52:38,079
and uh. I remember looking out my bedroom window out

1859
01:52:38,119 --> 01:52:42,199
in the woods behind our house seeing these things move

1860
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,720
through the woods. And I always thought it was my

1861
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:49,399
cousins out there messing with me, because they're out there

1862
01:52:49,399 --> 01:52:53,520
with flashlights, and I'd seen flashes out there as well,

1863
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,680
and again I thought it was you know, like you said,

1864
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,279
it was a camera. And then I remember asking my

1865
01:52:58,319 --> 01:53:00,399
great grandma about it. She's like, oh, no, oh, no,

1866
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:04,000
you know, those are spirits. There's wandering souls. They're looking

1867
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,960
for something. He goes, you just leave them alone. You know,

1868
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,039
they're not here to hurt you. They're just out looking

1869
01:53:09,039 --> 01:53:09,560
for something.

1870
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:11,079
Speaker 4: You know what they used to call them in the

1871
01:53:11,079 --> 01:53:13,239
old days, the olden days.

1872
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,199
Speaker 3: Willow dad, Yeah, the willow of the West.

1873
01:53:16,239 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 4: My dad used to talk about those, and I was like, ooh, man,

1874
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,840
my hackles went up as a little kid sitting on

1875
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,199
the steps with my dad and he's telling me about

1876
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:27,279
Willow of the Wisps.

1877
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:32,039
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I'll tell you the first one I ever saw.

1878
01:53:32,039 --> 01:53:35,279
I didn't know anything about orbs. We have people always

1879
01:53:35,279 --> 01:53:37,920
say this, look it up. It's the Chapel Hill light

1880
01:53:38,239 --> 01:53:41,880
in Tennessee, And of course they have a legend that

1881
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:43,720
goes with it, and we all thought it was BZ.

1882
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:48,520
And I showed up one night, and the conditions must

1883
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:49,960
have been right. It was about the size of the

1884
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,720
beach ball. What I did notice though, it looked like

1885
01:53:54,039 --> 01:53:56,399
the color of ball lightning I'd seen before, but it

1886
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,520
was perfectly round, and it looked like it was drawn

1887
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:03,680
to the train tracks, And once it got up on

1888
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,760
the train tracks, it shimmied like it was trying to

1889
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,479
balance out between the two. And then once it steadied,

1890
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:14,520
it started moving towards us really really smooth and slow.

1891
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,960
And then when it left, it looked like it wasn't

1892
01:54:18,039 --> 01:54:20,039
its choice. When it left, it looked like it was

1893
01:54:20,119 --> 01:54:22,119
ripped off the tracks and went back the way it came.

1894
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:27,760
So I don't know. I've heard stories of rivers having

1895
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,880
sulfur in them, and you know, uh, these other minerals

1896
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:36,239
in each side basically causing the big battery type situation.

1897
01:54:36,439 --> 01:54:41,479
So I don't know. Maybe, like the commenter said, there's

1898
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,279
different types. Uh, and I would probably go with that,

1899
01:54:45,239 --> 01:54:52,239
but definitely its energy. And I don't think you know,

1900
01:54:52,319 --> 01:54:54,560
the way this other one was moving we caught on

1901
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,800
camera it looked like it had a little intelligence to it.

1902
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,399
So I don't know. I mean, it's it. You know,

1903
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,840
fifteen years ago, I would have been more scared, but now,

1904
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:11,399
you know, talking to people like Daniel here, we just

1905
01:55:11,159 --> 01:55:15,319
you bounce stories off each other and uh, listen, you listen,

1906
01:55:15,359 --> 01:55:16,079
you soak it up.

1907
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 16: Well.

1908
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 4: Somebody mentioned, I think it was octopus with no friends,

1909
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:24,279
or it's octopus with a ton of friends, said unified

1910
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:29,560
unied friends that they their daughter saw pink orbs, which

1911
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:33,439
mean evetsaw two pink orbs. It was in the winter

1912
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,199
and they came we we obviously they caught her eye

1913
01:55:37,239 --> 01:55:41,279
because they were neon peptal bysmal pink and there were

1914
01:55:41,319 --> 01:55:45,279
two of them traveling together and then they stopped in

1915
01:55:45,319 --> 01:55:47,720
front of the parkway and they headed right for my

1916
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:51,479
car and one they were both right above the windshield

1917
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:56,479
and one disappeared blanked out, and one took off. It

1918
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:59,560
was so weird the color, you know, like you cannot

1919
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:04,600
mistake pept ole bysmal pig for anything, right. And now

1920
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,359
they were big, you know, they were probably I would

1921
01:56:07,359 --> 01:56:09,279
say soccer ball size are bigger.

1922
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 10: Before we caught this one on video.

1923
01:56:14,039 --> 01:56:17,439
Speaker 4: Barb or sorry, sorry, it's such a good way to

1924
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:22,880
comment that, William Knighthawk said, Barbie Orbs. Okay, sorry, no,

1925
01:56:23,039 --> 01:56:23,359
you're good.

1926
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 10: What drew our attention, uh to the woods were the

1927
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:31,119
red orbs, the smaller ones. And that's when all the

1928
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,199
cameras came out and it was pitch dark, and uh,

1929
01:56:34,279 --> 01:56:36,920
that's not what. They were different than the one that

1930
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,079
I saw. Now, I've been told by many people, uh,

1931
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,800
this color means that or whatever. But hold on second.

1932
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:50,119
I got a call. Oh lord, okay, sorry, y'all cock button.

1933
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 4: Those cough buttons are so handy.

1934
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 10: Oh no, no, I used to not do it, and

1935
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,720
then I would listen to the podcast. Oh I got

1936
01:56:58,800 --> 01:56:59,199
to stop that.

1937
01:57:00,359 --> 01:57:03,359
Speaker 4: I uh, I did, I got I was. I did

1938
01:57:03,399 --> 01:57:07,800
a podcast for Dave Schrader. I was like on his

1939
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:12,239
first podcast back in the studio studio over at w CCO,

1940
01:57:13,119 --> 01:57:15,199
And I hadn't been in that studio, and I used

1941
01:57:15,199 --> 01:57:17,960
to go there a lot. You were You were there

1942
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:18,560
with me, weren't you.

1943
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:19,359
Speaker 9: Yeah? That was fun.

1944
01:57:19,479 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 4: Yeahhow they got old big giant analog square buttons that's

1945
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:26,640
in cough on it.

1946
01:57:28,119 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 9: Yep. It's an old facility. That was kind of a

1947
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,319
time warp.

1948
01:57:33,279 --> 01:57:35,359
Speaker 3: You guys talking about the one downtown Minneapolis.

1949
01:57:35,439 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, a museum. It's so amazing. The same orange couch,

1950
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,640
the plaid orange couches in the lobby that was there

1951
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,640
back when I used to go there in the eighties,

1952
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,399
still there now now.

1953
01:57:49,479 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 10: Cam just commented that she saw one like plasma polesing

1954
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,520
different colors. The first one.

1955
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 4: I've seen that too, the small colors I saw.

1956
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,079
Speaker 10: The one was like seventeen in the year, just a

1957
01:58:01,079 --> 01:58:04,399
few years ago. Heather and I were in the truck

1958
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:05,880
and I didn't felt like getting out that night for

1959
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:11,319
some reason, and just to her, right about ten foot up,

1960
01:58:12,119 --> 01:58:14,159
there was and I've told this story a bunch, but

1961
01:58:14,199 --> 01:58:18,319
there was. It was elongated, but it was pulsating like

1962
01:58:18,359 --> 01:58:20,760
she's talking about, and it was it was just changing

1963
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,680
shapes and this went on for fifteen or twenty minute.

1964
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,079
Speaker 4: Okay, well, well back the truck up Roger. Was this

1965
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:27,479
something you saw?

1966
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 10: Yes, she pointed it out, and she's like, what is

1967
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:33,880
that like? And of course I leaned over. I couldn't

1968
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:35,800
see it. I'm like, what in the world? So I

1969
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:39,760
changed position. I backed backed, and backed up and pulled forward.

1970
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,079
I don't how many times, getting different angles on it.

1971
01:58:42,279 --> 01:58:45,399
I wasn't walking over there. Of course, I investigated the

1972
01:58:45,399 --> 01:58:47,960
next day, went back. There's nothing in the tree. But

1973
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:53,680
she's right. It reminded me of something balling, but not

1974
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:57,840
not really balling. It was pulsating and they stayed the

1975
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:58,359
same color.

1976
01:58:58,439 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 4: I got the orb story that I would love to

1977
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,279
hear it from somebody else. Adams seeing one of these,

1978
01:59:04,039 --> 01:59:08,039
it's not only sparking. It's got those sparks coming off

1979
01:59:08,079 --> 01:59:11,359
it like in those old remember the old guns. You'd

1980
01:59:11,359 --> 01:59:14,239
squeeze the trigger and the sparks would come out the

1981
01:59:14,319 --> 01:59:18,520
end like that. But it's also changing colors from bright

1982
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:23,119
green blue to red yellow, green blue, and sparks are

1983
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:25,760
coming off it. And we had one come right out

1984
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:30,199
of the airport, right from the runway on the U.

1985
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,279
It would have been the east runway. And it's heading

1986
01:59:33,359 --> 01:59:37,680
towards my car, misses the windshield by maybe ten feet

1987
01:59:38,279 --> 01:59:41,640
and keeps going and goes into the woods. And I

1988
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:46,039
got the feeling like it was dying, and that's what

1989
01:59:46,079 --> 01:59:49,159
the sparks were. It was like running out of battery

1990
01:59:49,399 --> 01:59:52,199
or whatever you'd call it. And even got the same

1991
01:59:52,279 --> 01:59:55,439
feeling like it was in trouble, and the way it

1992
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:57,600
headed into the woods that it was kind of sagging.

1993
01:59:58,119 --> 02:00:02,640
It was going, but it was moving slow. So if

1994
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:06,600
anybody's seen a sparking orb that changes color, God, let

1995
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:07,720
me know when.

1996
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:08,439
Speaker 9: I was going.

1997
02:00:09,319 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 3: When I was in Germany back in ninety I almost

1998
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:16,039
say this happened in ninety two. It was part of

1999
02:00:16,039 --> 02:00:19,279
a two man mobile patrol and we were driving our

2000
02:00:19,319 --> 02:00:24,159
patrol area and it was super dark out. We were

2001
02:00:24,159 --> 02:00:29,000
working mids and uh no, yeah, we were convints and

2002
02:00:29,079 --> 02:00:32,119
as we were coming around the curve of this road,

2003
02:00:33,359 --> 02:00:38,680
we thought that somebody had like a search light searchlight on.

2004
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:43,319
As we were coming around, they were coming around and

2005
02:00:43,399 --> 02:00:45,880
all we saw was like this. As soon as we

2006
02:00:46,399 --> 02:00:49,560
came around the curve, like at the same time, we

2007
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,560
got hit with that light but immediately shut off to

2008
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:56,760
like a dim color and it looked like a basketball

2009
02:00:56,840 --> 02:01:00,560
sized thing that just went like straight and said, following

2010
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:02,119
the curve of the road. It just went straight off

2011
02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:06,159
into the woods. And this was on base. And my uh,

2012
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,159
my partner and I we pulled the vehicle over. We're like,

2013
02:01:09,199 --> 02:01:13,680
what that bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep was that? And

2014
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:16,119
we turned around and we started looking and we got

2015
02:01:16,199 --> 02:01:17,920
out where we thought it and went off in the

2016
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,840
woods and we pulled the vehicle right up. We hit

2017
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,359
the brights and we had those takedown lights on on

2018
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:27,359
the top of the car, so those are super bright,

2019
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:30,720
and we're just out looking around and we saw or

2020
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:34,279
heard nothing. But I mean, but that was on a

2021
02:01:34,279 --> 02:01:35,039
military base.

2022
02:01:35,319 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 10: You know, will even got too demerits, okay, Lord Lurid.

2023
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:42,680
Laurid just came in to chat. She's the one that

2024
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:48,520
saw the first one outside the tent and pointed it out. Yeah,

2025
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:53,399
so I'm this, uh this first one I saw what people,

2026
02:01:54,159 --> 02:01:58,159
It's hard to explain. Can you imagine something size of

2027
02:01:58,159 --> 02:02:01,159
a beach ball emitting light from every direction? Because it's

2028
02:02:01,239 --> 02:02:03,960
around right when this thing came out of the woods

2029
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:06,520
and went back, it was it was you know, probably

2030
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:10,920
midnight or after the shadows you heard the term the

2031
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:15,520
shadows dancing as it was changing each foot it went.

2032
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:19,000
It was going fast, the tree shadows were changing. It

2033
02:02:19,159 --> 02:02:22,039
was It's one of the most incredible sights I've ever seen.

2034
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:26,319
And I can't put that into words, but but that

2035
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:31,000
showed me that it was emitting light from it at

2036
02:02:31,119 --> 02:02:35,560
every angle and for year, and for some reason I

2037
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:37,439
wasn't scared of it. I don't know why.

2038
02:02:39,319 --> 02:02:42,159
Speaker 4: Roger and Dan and Jeff, I don't have e ever

2039
02:02:42,239 --> 02:02:45,840
told you guys this story. But I was in North Carolina,

2040
02:02:47,279 --> 02:02:49,840
about maybe a mile from Faetdeville, if you know where

2041
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:55,560
that is, close to Fort Bragg, and were parked at

2042
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:59,840
a light and out above from the car window, above

2043
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:04,199
the car probably I'm guessing a thousand feet up was

2044
02:03:04,279 --> 02:03:09,199
the biggest orb that from an arm's leg looked to

2045
02:03:09,239 --> 02:03:12,600
be about maybe as far as you could stretch your fingers,

2046
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:17,520
so like five inches six inches. It was massive, and

2047
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:22,520
it's sparking, going really slow and changing colors. This is

2048
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:27,119
another incident years ago, back in like ninety two ninety three,

2049
02:03:27,279 --> 02:03:30,880
nineteen ninety two ninety three, and we get over to

2050
02:03:31,119 --> 02:03:35,079
the home we're going to and on the TV while

2051
02:03:35,119 --> 02:03:38,359
we walk in the house is a special report about

2052
02:03:38,359 --> 02:03:42,960
the military looking for a down plane. I can tell

2053
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,840
you this was no jet going down. This was a

2054
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:51,520
perfectly round orb, changing colors, sparks coming off it. But massive.

2055
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:54,199
I mean it looked to me I would guess it

2056
02:03:54,239 --> 02:03:57,840
was one hundred feet across minimum. Wow. Well that's a

2057
02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:03,199
big orb, guys. Yeah. And to see the special report

2058
02:04:03,279 --> 02:04:06,279
of the military looking for a down plane and I'm thinking,

2059
02:04:06,279 --> 02:04:10,199
what a bullshit well, what a bull crap cover story

2060
02:04:10,319 --> 02:04:14,079
that was. Yeah, I just got I just gave my

2061
02:04:14,199 --> 02:04:16,239
I took I took your demerits away, William, and I

2062
02:04:16,239 --> 02:04:23,439
took throw that up. But we need body of mouse,

2063
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:25,119
we need a body mouth.

2064
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,359
Speaker 10: Go ahead, grab put a dollar in the tip jar

2065
02:04:29,159 --> 02:04:30,159
just did so.

2066
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:31,239
Speaker 4: Doug.

2067
02:04:31,319 --> 02:04:34,840
Speaker 10: When you first got into this, uh searching for Bigfoot

2068
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,239
and all the science and what what did what did

2069
02:04:37,279 --> 02:04:40,800
you think when you started, uh seeing this other stuff

2070
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:42,760
that and hearing.

2071
02:04:44,279 --> 02:04:47,319
Speaker 4: At all? I still don't really, you know, it's I'm

2072
02:04:47,359 --> 02:04:49,880
open to it, but I don't. I think they're two

2073
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:55,439
separate phenomenas. And I course, like orbs have always been

2074
02:04:55,479 --> 02:04:59,359
really interesting me because when we were maybe I was

2075
02:05:00,159 --> 02:05:02,840
nine years old, eight years old, me and my sister

2076
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:11,520
were upstairs and we both smelt sulfur. And my parents

2077
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:14,039
were gone, and they went out that night, and we

2078
02:05:14,079 --> 02:05:17,520
had cleaned the entire house. We had mopped the floors, vacuumed,

2079
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,880
and now we're sitting at the kitchen table kind of

2080
02:05:20,199 --> 02:05:22,239
you know, we're gloating our happy mom and dad are

2081
02:05:22,239 --> 02:05:25,359
going to be that we clean the whole house. And

2082
02:05:25,439 --> 02:05:28,359
we're sitting there and we both I smell sulfur. Then

2083
02:05:28,439 --> 02:05:32,199
Wendy smelt sulfur, and we kept smelling sulfur and it

2084
02:05:32,239 --> 02:05:34,880
would drift back and forth. I said, we need to

2085
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:37,840
search the house. Something could be on fire burning, right,

2086
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:41,199
So one of the first places we went is into

2087
02:05:41,239 --> 02:05:44,279
the basement, and what do you think we see? We

2088
02:05:44,319 --> 02:05:47,159
get down towards the end of the stairs and a

2089
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:53,680
sparking orb flies from my left and heads to the

2090
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:57,279
right and hits the wall by our pool table and explodes.

2091
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:01,319
Then another one comes up does the same thing, like

2092
02:06:01,479 --> 02:06:05,279
went through the concrete, but then exploded in a shower

2093
02:06:05,319 --> 02:06:11,560
of sparks. Okay, now everything pals after that, right, right,

2094
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:15,199
And we ran upstairs told our parents that obviously they

2095
02:06:15,239 --> 02:06:20,680
didn't believe us. That was my first experience truly with

2096
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:24,399
the paranormal or whatever it was.

2097
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:32,119
Speaker 10: Well, it's it's so confusing because you know, I've had

2098
02:06:32,359 --> 02:06:37,039
people that are just flesh and blood only and all that,

2099
02:06:37,119 --> 02:06:41,199
and that's fine, have their mind opened up. At the

2100
02:06:41,319 --> 02:06:43,600
LBL a few years ago, I was talking to a

2101
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,520
lady and her husband. UH know them very well.

2102
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 9: Now.

2103
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 10: They were on the flesh and blood. It's like that

2104
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:52,960
they're scared to even say anything other than that. But

2105
02:06:53,079 --> 02:06:56,800
she was telling us a story about she looked up

2106
02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:58,760
and saw I think it was a yellowish orb in

2107
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:03,039
the sky and it had that you know when you

2108
02:07:03,159 --> 02:07:06,279
burn plastic and it drips and it's on fire when

2109
02:07:06,279 --> 02:07:09,399
it's she she said it was doing that and that,

2110
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,920
and and it came down and there was a lot

2111
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:15,640
of people standing there there that saw it. Uh so,

2112
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:19,640
And since then she's had other things happen. So I

2113
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:23,199
don't know if it's the area or it could be

2114
02:07:23,239 --> 02:07:28,119
the area and the person, you know, we don't know.

2115
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:32,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so it's so weird. Okay, we gotta gotta

2116
02:07:32,319 --> 02:07:34,560
we're turning this into an orb show. We gotta quit.

2117
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,359
Speaker 10: Now what are we talking about?

2118
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 9: Crypti Rogers unverified crap I got a new one here.

2119
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:45,119
This is from christ and Christians.

2120
02:07:47,079 --> 02:07:52,279
Speaker 10: That's a great name. Question everything.

2121
02:07:55,319 --> 02:07:56,359
Speaker 4: Well, it's true.

2122
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just those are fantastic, Tristan.

2123
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 9: Tristan sent those to me.

2124
02:08:02,199 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's all copyrighted now, thank you, Tristan. Anyhow, Okay, cryptids, Okay,

2125
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:14,279
what do you guys make of these.

2126
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:16,479
Speaker 9: Like rakes?

2127
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:18,479
Speaker 4: Do you get reports down south of that stuff? I

2128
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:20,159
think it's more of a northernly thing.

2129
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:24,079
Speaker 10: I've never heard. I heard that word for the first

2130
02:08:24,079 --> 02:08:25,239
time maybe two years ago.

2131
02:08:25,279 --> 02:08:27,239
Speaker 4: Okay, so there you're not getting reports of that.

2132
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:32,479
Speaker 3: I saw mine in Tennessee and you, oh you did? Yeah,

2133
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:34,079
so you did?

2134
02:08:34,079 --> 02:08:34,399
Speaker 9: We talk.

2135
02:08:34,479 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about this yet.

2136
02:08:36,319 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 3: No, you said you want you wanted to hear about cryptids. Man.

2137
02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:45,760
I know that. But when when you automatically think of cryptids,

2138
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:48,199
you think dog man, you think of you think of

2139
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:49,640
I didn't.

2140
02:08:49,439 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 4: Say we needed the Jennifer Lopez of cryptids. I just

2141
02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:53,800
said cryptids.

2142
02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:58,439
Speaker 10: Well, Dan, I've seen stuff in Memphis I can't talk about, so, brother, I.

2143
02:08:58,479 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 3: Tell you right now, I have seen things in Memphis

2144
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:02,319
that you cannot talk about.

2145
02:09:04,159 --> 02:09:04,920
Speaker 10: That's another show.

2146
02:09:05,359 --> 02:09:07,279
Speaker 4: Okay. When I meant by that was we don't have

2147
02:09:07,319 --> 02:09:11,119
to just talk about popular ones. I liked the offbeat stuff.

2148
02:09:12,159 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 3: Well, you asked me earlier, what was one of the scariest,

2149
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:21,560
one of the scariest encounters that I've had come on

2150
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:25,800
the show. Now, outside of Joe Barger's, there's a gentleman

2151
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,159
named Tyler and he had that nine to one one

2152
02:09:29,279 --> 02:09:33,399
rate call and I had him on and if you

2153
02:09:33,439 --> 02:09:36,479
guys are the one with the truck where he says.

2154
02:09:36,239 --> 02:09:38,119
Speaker 4: It's not human, it's not human.

2155
02:09:38,319 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 3: I had him on and that call was six years ago.

2156
02:09:45,439 --> 02:09:48,319
And when I was interviewing him, we had to do

2157
02:09:48,359 --> 02:09:50,760
it twice. We had to do two interviews. The first

2158
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:54,399
one didn't quite work out, so we made we made

2159
02:09:54,399 --> 02:09:58,800
an appointment for the next day. And I could still

2160
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:02,079
see when he talks about it. I can still see

2161
02:10:02,159 --> 02:10:05,840
the terror that he goes through internally with that. That

2162
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:11,399
is one of the scariest encounters that I've ever heard

2163
02:10:12,119 --> 02:10:13,039
on on my show.

2164
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:17,119
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and so that was you had him on

2165
02:10:17,159 --> 02:10:18,720
your show, the actual guy.

2166
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:19,239
Speaker 9: Yep.

2167
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:21,840
Speaker 4: How did you find him? How did you find him?

2168
02:10:22,319 --> 02:10:23,119
Speaker 3: I know people?

2169
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, obviously I can't verify.

2170
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 3: It though, Oh no, it's verified. I'll give you, I'll

2171
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:31,159
give you, I'll give you voice actor to do it,

2172
02:10:32,479 --> 02:10:35,239
and and I actually and I actually have the nine

2173
02:10:35,279 --> 02:10:35,520
one one.

2174
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 10: Have you heard that, Roger, I've heard, I've heard the audio.

2175
02:10:42,399 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 3: You find it, Jeff, probably if you want to go

2176
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:52,239
to either the Crypto podcast and check it out there. Yeah,

2177
02:10:52,279 --> 02:10:55,960
well yeah, just play on his I'll tell you what

2178
02:10:56,039 --> 02:10:56,760
episode it is.

2179
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 10: It's funny.

2180
02:11:02,239 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 9: We just lost.

2181
02:11:06,199 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, Well, I do what I can do.

2182
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:09,159
Speaker 9: Man.

2183
02:11:09,279 --> 02:11:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, all's fear and warned podcasting.

2184
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:14,840
Speaker 10: That's right. I read a story in the late seventies

2185
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:17,159
in the newspaper. I was about eight or nine years old,

2186
02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:19,880
and everybody was laughing, and I'm like, what's going on

2187
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:23,079
at the town's about fifteen miles from here. I'm not

2188
02:11:23,079 --> 02:11:26,800
going to mention it right now. It's small. And what

2189
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:29,039
I read in the paper this man had been having

2190
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:33,520
things food stolen out of his smokehouse, and he sat

2191
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:38,199
up one night with a shotgun and something was already inside.

2192
02:11:38,199 --> 02:11:40,760
It came out and he said it had a torsover man,

2193
02:11:41,439 --> 02:11:43,760
and it had hoofs for feet. It looked like the

2194
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:47,840
devil and all this stuff. So years later I remember

2195
02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:50,319
that story and I've looked, I've looked all over. I

2196
02:11:50,359 --> 02:11:54,399
can't find it. And a few weeks ago, my wife

2197
02:11:54,439 --> 02:11:57,199
met a lady she knew, and she asked how I

2198
02:11:57,239 --> 02:11:59,600
was doing or whatever, and she told what we were

2199
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:02,000
talking about about, and she said, oh my god, my

2200
02:12:02,039 --> 02:12:06,239
granddad had an experience here and it's the same guy.

2201
02:12:06,359 --> 02:12:08,199
So we're going to get together. I want to talk

2202
02:12:08,239 --> 02:12:09,840
to him about what he saw. I want to get

2203
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:13,159
that documented before you know, he passes away. He's really

2204
02:12:13,159 --> 02:12:15,399
old now. But I was like a I was like

2205
02:12:15,439 --> 02:12:17,720
a kid on Christmas when she came home and told me.

2206
02:12:18,479 --> 02:12:22,239
I'm like, I've wondered about that story my whole life,

2207
02:12:22,439 --> 02:12:24,880
and I remember the details. I just want to know

2208
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:29,279
if I have the details correct. But the lady told

2209
02:12:29,319 --> 02:12:32,199
her that he doesn't talk about it much because people

2210
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:35,039
laughed at him and every time he went out in public.

2211
02:12:35,079 --> 02:12:36,840
You know, back then it was a whole lot different

2212
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:42,880
than now. But we just don't know how many stories

2213
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:45,680
and how many things people have seen that we don't

2214
02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:46,159
know yet.

2215
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:51,600
Speaker 4: No, because most people, the more less known cryptids are

2216
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:55,079
less likely to be talked about. So what did you see, Dan?

2217
02:12:57,159 --> 02:13:00,680
I would short? Do you mean this short short verse? Yeah?

2218
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:06,039
Not that drawn out one. No, all those details are

2219
02:13:06,119 --> 02:13:10,000
unverified anyhow, here it is unverified.

2220
02:13:10,079 --> 02:13:15,279
Speaker 3: So here here's the short thing. Move back to Tennessee,

2221
02:13:16,239 --> 02:13:17,760
hanging out with the buddy of mine that I had

2222
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,479
known since my freshman year, the first year I went

2223
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,720
to the high school I was going to my senior year,

2224
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:25,640
I skipped tenth and eleventh grade, and I was in

2225
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:29,479
school in Washington for those two grades. Was gonna hang

2226
02:13:29,479 --> 02:13:32,279
out with him for the weekend ride mini bikes, which

2227
02:13:32,319 --> 02:13:35,840
we did. His parents were gone for the night. We

2228
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:39,119
come back and as we were going through the woods,

2229
02:13:39,119 --> 02:13:41,119
it's next to his property. His dad had like three

2230
02:13:41,159 --> 02:13:43,880
hundred plus acres, I want to say roughly that he

2231
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:47,600
was a farmer, so he had grow fields. And then

2232
02:13:48,399 --> 02:13:51,600
when we went through those woods, because there's an old,

2233
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:55,880
old like farmhouse, like late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds

2234
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:58,199
house in the middle of these woods. You would drive

2235
02:13:58,319 --> 02:14:00,720
right by those to go out to where his dad

2236
02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:04,079
grows his crops. And as we were coming through, my

2237
02:14:04,119 --> 02:14:07,199
buddy kind of slowed down as many bike, he kind

2238
02:14:07,199 --> 02:14:11,960
of looked and then took off well. As he slowed down,

2239
02:14:12,039 --> 02:14:14,039
I looked as well, and I saw something standing in

2240
02:14:14,079 --> 02:14:16,880
one of the windows of this of this old house.

2241
02:14:18,039 --> 02:14:20,479
Then I took off up after him and we run out,

2242
02:14:21,239 --> 02:14:23,359
put the you know, drop the bikes, jump up in

2243
02:14:23,359 --> 02:14:28,119
the house and uh, I go, uh, man, did you

2244
02:14:28,159 --> 02:14:30,319
did you see that? Did you see that? Do you

2245
02:14:30,319 --> 02:14:32,680
see someone over there in the uh? In that house?

2246
02:14:32,720 --> 02:14:34,239
He's like, yeah, why do you think I took off?

2247
02:14:35,199 --> 02:14:37,560
And uh So when we went into the into the house,

2248
02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:39,479
he was hoping to find his dad. His dad, Hey,

2249
02:14:39,479 --> 02:14:42,680
there's someone down in that house. Didn't see him. So

2250
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:46,880
I was goofing off sitting in his dad's chair, which

2251
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:50,600
you're not supposed to do, and uh cranked up the TV.

2252
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:53,399
We'll listen to it. And I started hearing the scratching,

2253
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:57,479
and uh, I didn't know where it was coming from,

2254
02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,279
and I thought it was coming from the TV, so

2255
02:14:59,359 --> 02:15:01,560
I would kind of turned switched the channels, and I

2256
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:04,279
kept hearing and I'd slow it down or i'd turn

2257
02:15:04,319 --> 02:15:06,800
it down, and then I didn't hear it anymore. Then

2258
02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:09,319
I turn it up again and I hear the scratching again.

2259
02:15:09,319 --> 02:15:11,720
I'm thinking, oh great, I blew a speaker in this TV.

2260
02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:15,760
So then I start changing the channels again and then

2261
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:20,279
I turned it down and I didn't hear the scratching.

2262
02:15:21,239 --> 02:15:23,039
I'm getting ready to turn up again, and then I

2263
02:15:23,079 --> 02:15:23,960
hear the scratching again.

2264
02:15:24,039 --> 02:15:25,439
Speaker 4: Is this story again?

2265
02:15:25,560 --> 02:15:28,680
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, this is gonna be a short one. So

2266
02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:31,199
I look at the window, out the window that my

2267
02:15:31,399 --> 02:15:34,880
back is to, and I see something a face looking

2268
02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:41,399
into the window like this. And this thing was grayish white,

2269
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,920
pale white. Its skin was pulled tight on its skull.

2270
02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:47,720
It had like a nose, like a short like pushed

2271
02:15:47,720 --> 02:15:49,880
in nose, kind of like Voldemort kind of, if that's

2272
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:54,000
what you want to call it, a huge mouth, and

2273
02:15:54,199 --> 02:15:57,119
uh where it's eye should be, which was like dark

2274
02:15:57,359 --> 02:16:01,840
like hollow sockets almost, And I jumped off. I jumped

2275
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:04,680
out of the chair. My buddy comes running in because

2276
02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:07,760
hears me yelling. He's like what I tell him, and

2277
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:09,600
he looks and I'm thinking, he's just kind of look

2278
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:11,520
like this, But he went right up to the window

2279
02:16:11,600 --> 02:16:14,199
himself and he jumped back. He goes, I just saw

2280
02:16:14,479 --> 02:16:17,880
something take off away from the house. So we get

2281
02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:20,840
some shotguns and we go out in the backyard and

2282
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:24,319
we hear his dogs just barking. His dogs were super

2283
02:16:24,399 --> 02:16:27,720
chill dogs. They hardly bark at anything. We go and

2284
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:30,600
turn on the flashlight that he has, and I had

2285
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:33,920
this little plastic piece of crap one. And so we

2286
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:38,000
go out there and the dogs their tails are curled up,

2287
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:40,040
their hackles are all up on their back. I mean,

2288
02:16:40,079 --> 02:16:42,760
these dogs are ready to fight. We've never seen these

2289
02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:45,639
dogs like this. So we go and try to get

2290
02:16:45,719 --> 02:16:47,840
him to come away, because they're standing right at the

2291
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:50,399
tree line, pretty close to it, and we're like, come on, boys,

2292
02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:52,680
come on, come on, come on. They wouldn't move well.

2293
02:16:52,719 --> 02:16:56,559
But at that time, we hear something scream from the

2294
02:16:56,600 --> 02:17:01,760
woods and I go to turn to my buddy and

2295
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:04,639
I mean, did you just hear that? And he was gone,

2296
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:07,440
and the dogs were gone, and I turned and I

2297
02:17:07,479 --> 02:17:10,079
look behind me and they're all they're hauling butt back

2298
02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:13,840
up to the house. I take off running, but I

2299
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:16,399
hear something coming up behind me, come through the woods,

2300
02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:20,040
and I'm trying to use this blame flashlight to shine

2301
02:17:20,079 --> 02:17:22,040
the light behind me to see if I could see something,

2302
02:17:23,239 --> 02:17:26,200
but I just didn't. I get up to the house

2303
02:17:26,239 --> 02:17:28,000
with them. We all pile into the house, even the

2304
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:30,680
dogs who are not supposed to be in there. We

2305
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:33,120
lock all the doors, all the windows, pull all the

2306
02:17:33,159 --> 02:17:37,920
shades and curtains, and we stayed up as late as

2307
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:40,639
we possibly could. We were afraid that this thing was

2308
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:43,680
gonna come and get us. We had taken his dad's

2309
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:47,319
chair and shoved it up into the stairway going upstairs

2310
02:17:47,319 --> 02:17:49,239
because we thought that was gonna protect us if it

2311
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:55,479
was coming in through the top windows. As we you know, crashed.

2312
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:59,479
The next thing I remember is his dad kicking me

2313
02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:02,280
in the in the in the foot and wanting to

2314
02:18:02,319 --> 02:18:04,040
know what the heck was going on because the dogs

2315
02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:06,680
are in there. We got shotguns out, and we tell him,

2316
02:18:07,159 --> 02:18:09,840
we tell him what happens. So he tells us to

2317
02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:12,159
get in the truck. So we get in the truck,

2318
02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:16,159
we go down into the woods. He pulls it up.

2319
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:18,440
You know, he grabbed his ar before we did this,

2320
02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:21,639
and he goes up into this house. You know, He's like,

2321
02:18:21,959 --> 02:18:24,360
which window and I had to tell him because my

2322
02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:26,360
buddy wasn't telling him the right window. So I told

2323
02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:29,760
him what window was and as he walked in the house.

2324
02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:32,159
There's two ways to get up to the upper floor

2325
02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:34,239
of this house. There's one right to the right of

2326
02:18:34,319 --> 02:18:38,159
the front door. It goes upstairs to the second floor,

2327
02:18:38,200 --> 02:18:41,399
and then at the top of that stairs it turns

2328
02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:44,239
to the left, or it goes straight left is where

2329
02:18:44,239 --> 02:18:46,559
the bedrooms, and I think a bat like two or

2330
02:18:46,559 --> 02:18:49,120
three bedrooms, and then the bathroom. And then if he

2331
02:18:49,159 --> 02:18:53,000
goes straight, the hallway goes to another stairway that goes

2332
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:56,520
down into the kitchen. He goes his dad, goes up,

2333
02:18:56,959 --> 02:18:59,000
looks in the living room, goes into the next room,

2334
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:02,639
looks in the dining room, goes into the kitchen, walks

2335
02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:05,120
around x saying you know. We hear him yell, start

2336
02:19:05,159 --> 02:19:07,479
the truck, Start the truck, Start the truck, and he

2337
02:19:07,559 --> 02:19:10,399
comes running through the house. He was a big boy,

2338
02:19:11,479 --> 02:19:14,280
three hundred plus pounds, six foot five, six foot eight

2339
02:19:14,319 --> 02:19:18,319
something like that, just a big country fed farmer. And

2340
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:22,680
he jumped off of the porch down to the truck,

2341
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:28,200
puts it in gear, drives up through his backyard, which

2342
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:30,959
he loved, his backyard. His backyard looked like a like

2343
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:33,959
a golf course that was so immaculate. Tore up his

2344
02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:38,000
backyard driving through it. Gets out. Now we're thinking something's

2345
02:19:38,040 --> 02:19:41,079
coming after so me and my buddy we're still have

2346
02:19:41,159 --> 02:19:43,200
our shotguns and we're looking to see if something comes

2347
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:47,639
out of the tree line. Nothing does, but so soon

2348
02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:51,840
we hear a big semi truck pulling up into his

2349
02:19:51,959 --> 02:19:55,280
dad's property, and there was an excavator on the back

2350
02:19:55,319 --> 02:19:57,399
of this on this trailer that it was pulling.

2351
02:19:58,559 --> 02:20:01,959
Speaker 4: See Dan, Yeah, I would have started this story right there.

2352
02:20:03,559 --> 02:20:09,079
Speaker 3: Wow. But his but but his dad go and and

2353
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:12,239
takes takes the excavator off of the trailer. This guy

2354
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:14,120
takes it off the excavator, his dad gets in it

2355
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:19,280
drives it down and they completely level that old house.

2356
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:21,159
It was in the woods, and then he set fire

2357
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:22,360
to all the rubble.

2358
02:20:23,319 --> 02:20:23,879
Speaker 4: Crazy.

2359
02:20:24,079 --> 02:20:26,760
Speaker 3: Now, I asked my buddy later, what did your dad see?

2360
02:20:27,120 --> 02:20:29,159
He didn't really want to talk about it. He says

2361
02:20:29,159 --> 02:20:32,440
he didn't see anything, but he heard something and it's

2362
02:20:32,440 --> 02:20:34,680
scared him enough to have him come running out of

2363
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:37,319
the truck or out of the house. And since then

2364
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:38,440
they sold the property.

2365
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:38,879
Speaker 4: Uh.

2366
02:20:39,239 --> 02:20:41,760
Speaker 3: Last I heard. His dad now lives in Florida, and

2367
02:20:41,799 --> 02:20:44,920
my buddy lives over and over like middle to eastern

2368
02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:45,840
Tennessee somewhere.

2369
02:20:47,799 --> 02:20:48,799
Speaker 10: He's probably close to me.

2370
02:20:49,959 --> 02:20:54,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still running. Yeah, that's a crazy story. Anyhow,

2371
02:20:57,520 --> 02:21:02,680
what is the what's the weirdest cryptid down in your

2372
02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:03,360
neck of the woods?

2373
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:03,799
Speaker 9: Roger?

2374
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:07,479
Speaker 4: Is it just dog? It's dogmen, isn't it.

2375
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:12,360
Speaker 10: I don't know that's that would be you know LBO

2376
02:21:12,520 --> 02:21:15,040
is famous for that. That's about two and a half

2377
02:21:15,079 --> 02:21:15,719
hours from here.

2378
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:19,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw something that looked like a dog man.

2379
02:21:20,479 --> 02:21:24,360
Speaker 10: Me, yeah, uh no, I've never, thank goodness, never laid

2380
02:21:24,399 --> 02:21:25,559
eyes on anything like that.

2381
02:21:26,520 --> 02:21:26,639
Speaker 9: Now.

2382
02:21:26,680 --> 02:21:30,559
Speaker 10: I've seen I've seen thermal video from some okay.

2383
02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:32,959
Speaker 4: But I thought you saw something white. I can't remember

2384
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:34,120
what it was. Was that.

2385
02:21:34,639 --> 02:21:35,680
Speaker 3: Oh that was a wolf.

2386
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:37,479
Speaker 4: That was oh, just a regular wolf.

2387
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:39,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was unexpected.

2388
02:21:39,280 --> 02:21:39,600
Speaker 9: That was it.

2389
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:40,559
Speaker 10: They'll be l two.

2390
02:21:41,399 --> 02:21:43,360
Speaker 4: There's timber wolves down there.

2391
02:21:43,559 --> 02:21:49,399
Speaker 10: Well that there. I've seen red wolves here. They're rare,

2392
02:21:49,479 --> 02:21:52,920
but i've seen those. I've been close to one wolf.

2393
02:21:52,959 --> 02:21:55,200
It was a pet, so I knew how big they were.

2394
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:58,879
I knew how long their legs were. But after midnight

2395
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:02,559
on the road, you know, driving and you can imagine,

2396
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:05,000
he was snow white. So when the lights hit him,

2397
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:09,600
he just lit up. But what was strange his ears

2398
02:22:09,639 --> 02:22:11,440
were up and his neck was up like he was

2399
02:22:12,159 --> 02:22:14,879
after something. And then when when we came around the

2400
02:22:14,920 --> 02:22:17,600
curve and the lights hit him, he looked at us.

2401
02:22:18,319 --> 02:22:21,319
And I've never seen red eye shine like this on

2402
02:22:21,399 --> 02:22:23,760
a dog. They may do it, I've just never seen it.

2403
02:22:24,159 --> 02:22:27,760
But when our lights hit him, they just exploded with

2404
02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:31,000
shine and he you know, a squirrel. She mean, like

2405
02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:33,600
it doesn't know which way to go. That's what it did.

2406
02:22:33,639 --> 02:22:35,680
And when it did, it blended together. Now I know

2407
02:22:35,719 --> 02:22:39,319
what that was, but it was unsettling. And but here's

2408
02:22:39,440 --> 02:22:43,280
here's the kicker. There was a turn in and he

2409
02:22:43,399 --> 02:22:44,920
ran at an angle back the way it came. I

2410
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:47,639
knew he's going to cross that road and I pulled in,

2411
02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:51,479
didn't see him. And my wife, she said, oh heavens,

2412
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:53,920
I'm like, what is it? She said, I just saw

2413
02:22:53,959 --> 02:23:00,000
a vapor, a vapor moving across the road. What was

2414
02:23:00,159 --> 02:23:02,040
the size of it, by the size of a big dog.

2415
02:23:02,479 --> 02:23:05,639
So I didn't see it. I'm looking headlights down this

2416
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:09,600
trail or this this road. I didn't see anything. And

2417
02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:14,040
she sees something and the way she described that, now

2418
02:23:14,079 --> 02:23:16,959
you we interviewed Mike Smith. Mike's a great guy. He

2419
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:23,040
lives up there, and uh, they had a similar situation. Uh,

2420
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:26,959
he saw something looked like a mist or a vapor,

2421
02:23:27,319 --> 02:23:30,600
had a shape to it, and it's I don't know

2422
02:23:30,639 --> 02:23:31,799
what's going on up there, y'all.

2423
02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:35,879
Speaker 4: It's well, it sounds a little odd. I mean, it's

2424
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:39,479
just very out of place. It's almost a encryptid sighting

2425
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:43,159
well white wolf, because you know what would a big,

2426
02:23:43,239 --> 02:23:47,120
long legged white wolf be doing down in the LBL.

2427
02:23:47,559 --> 02:23:50,879
Speaker 10: It's the biggest canine I've ever seen. Look at David

2428
02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:52,200
Ellis's comment there.

2429
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:55,959
Speaker 4: No, yeah, Ron Moorehead's daughter.

2430
02:23:55,799 --> 02:23:58,840
Speaker 10: Well there was one. He just put it that there.

2431
02:23:58,879 --> 02:24:03,799
They normally fiery, white, yellow or greenish eyeshine. This, y'all,

2432
02:24:03,920 --> 02:24:10,120
this was this was this red wow. And that's and

2433
02:24:10,159 --> 02:24:12,200
I don't know if that was the unsettling part of it,

2434
02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:14,120
but you know, I mean, I was in the truck.

2435
02:24:14,120 --> 02:24:14,840
It shouldn't so.

2436
02:24:14,719 --> 02:24:16,159
Speaker 4: How do you know you didn't see a dog man

2437
02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:17,159
on all fours?

2438
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:17,479
Speaker 3: Well?

2439
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:19,879
Speaker 10: Let meet, okay, let me tell you this.

2440
02:24:19,879 --> 02:24:22,000
Speaker 4: This is all unverified crap, you know.

2441
02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:22,399
Speaker 9: I know.

2442
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:22,760
Speaker 4: So.

2443
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:29,159
Speaker 10: Uh when it when it turned to leave, it was

2444
02:24:29,239 --> 02:24:37,159
odd looking because most animals will crouch down and change

2445
02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:41,159
directions and push away and spin. This thing lifted its

2446
02:24:41,159 --> 02:24:44,879
front legs off the ground and turned at the at

2447
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:48,479
the hips like a trailer and set it and turned

2448
02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:51,440
almost backwards and set its front feet down in the

2449
02:24:51,479 --> 02:24:55,280
rear end followed it like a trailer. That that didn't

2450
02:24:55,319 --> 02:24:58,639
make sense to me. Now I'm not I'm not saying

2451
02:24:59,079 --> 02:25:01,079
that it was anything other than a wolf. But you

2452
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:03,520
can see why I was unsettled because nothing was right

2453
02:25:03,559 --> 02:25:04,159
about that thing.

2454
02:25:04,600 --> 02:25:08,399
Speaker 4: It was a very what we would call a not

2455
02:25:08,639 --> 02:25:16,159
wolf or not wolf. So Jeff finally saw something near

2456
02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:20,520
with me. You were driving right behind me, right, Joe,

2457
02:25:20,799 --> 02:25:22,639
and we saw a not deer.

2458
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:24,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's weird.

2459
02:25:25,159 --> 02:25:29,920
Speaker 4: 's first weird thing. Where do you think, uh, somewhere

2460
02:25:29,959 --> 02:25:31,239
that you drove right.

2461
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:34,280
Speaker 3: By the other day, Dan bro Are you kidding me?

2462
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:39,799
Speaker 9: Yeah? Right? And Blane No, no, no, it wasn't Rolina Lakes. Yeah,

2463
02:25:40,559 --> 02:25:48,040
between from Blaine are you three three of us sat, Yeah,

2464
02:25:48,079 --> 02:25:50,959
it was. It looked it was a miniature deer. It

2465
02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:52,920
was not a fawn. I know, I know white tailed

2466
02:25:52,959 --> 02:25:56,040
deer extremely well. Yeah, And it was not a faun.

2467
02:25:56,319 --> 02:25:57,920
It wasn't spot I mean, it was.

2468
02:25:58,079 --> 02:26:00,280
Speaker 4: A full grown deer that was full grown year.

2469
02:26:02,680 --> 02:26:06,040
Speaker 9: It was weird. I was three of us saw it.

2470
02:26:06,440 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 4: It was like a complete dough and literally put it

2471
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:12,399
in and shrunk.

2472
02:26:12,440 --> 02:26:16,239
Speaker 9: It colored like an adult dough.

2473
02:26:17,879 --> 02:26:20,239
Speaker 3: Were you did you go by? Right? Was over by

2474
02:26:20,319 --> 02:26:21,120
Rice Creek area?

2475
02:26:21,239 --> 02:26:24,360
Speaker 4: That was right by the Bill's supert.

2476
02:26:26,799 --> 02:26:32,879
Speaker 3: No, kid, I guess I know what I'm going to

2477
02:26:32,959 --> 02:26:35,719
be looking for. But you know, when Roger you talk

2478
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:38,680
about that deer, I mean that wolf, you know. I

2479
02:26:38,719 --> 02:26:42,239
told I told Doug yesterday about the encounter I had

2480
02:26:42,280 --> 02:26:46,959
up up in the ute up in Michigan, just just

2481
02:26:47,079 --> 02:26:50,959
west of Escanaba. I saw the biggest wolf I had

2482
02:26:50,959 --> 02:26:54,280
ever seen in my life. And I told Doug it

2483
02:26:54,399 --> 02:26:57,000
was so big that it could have taken its chin

2484
02:26:57,040 --> 02:26:58,959
and rested it on the hood of my my full

2485
02:26:59,000 --> 02:27:02,760
sized Silverado. And I told him, I said, I was

2486
02:27:02,760 --> 02:27:05,479
at a dead stop on the road. There was no

2487
02:27:05,479 --> 02:27:09,559
one else coming towards me or behind me. This wolf

2488
02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:11,719
was looking at me. It had stopped in the middle

2489
02:27:11,719 --> 02:27:14,760
of the road, and I had to fight the urge

2490
02:27:15,799 --> 02:27:19,559
to get out of my truck and approach this animal.

2491
02:27:20,200 --> 02:27:22,239
Like I'm not saying that, oh I want to go,

2492
02:27:22,559 --> 02:27:27,159
Like I felt like something was compelling me to get

2493
02:27:27,159 --> 02:27:29,600
out of your truck, open your door, get out of

2494
02:27:29,600 --> 02:27:35,559
your truck and approach this wolf. And then it just

2495
02:27:35,639 --> 02:27:37,959
kind of looked at me a couple more times, and

2496
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:42,399
then it just walked away. Now, the coincidental part of

2497
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:47,760
this is just west of Escanaba, there is a cemetery,

2498
02:27:47,920 --> 02:27:51,399
and it just so happens it took place in that area,

2499
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:54,200
and it moved from the side of where the cemetery

2500
02:27:54,280 --> 02:27:58,680
is from going across the road towards the lake. So

2501
02:27:58,799 --> 02:28:01,639
it's coincidental. But you guys, I hate to do this

2502
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:04,639
to you. I've gotta go. I gotta you gotta, you

2503
02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:08,120
gotta do Dano in the morning, I am yeah, six

2504
02:28:08,479 --> 02:28:11,879
six forty five am Central Standard time, you guys, so.

2505
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:15,799
Speaker 4: Catch him early tomorrow morning. Yeah, he's gonna do you

2506
02:28:15,879 --> 02:28:16,799
drink coffee?

2507
02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:17,639
Speaker 10: Uh?

2508
02:28:17,680 --> 02:28:20,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes I drink coffee. Sometimes I drink mountain dew. A

2509
02:28:20,479 --> 02:28:23,760
lot of times I drink unsweetened iced tea.

2510
02:28:24,159 --> 02:28:27,520
Speaker 4: I might. I might be watching tomorrow, Doug.

2511
02:28:27,639 --> 02:28:29,159
Speaker 3: You hardly ever sleep.

2512
02:28:29,239 --> 02:28:32,719
Speaker 4: I might watch. Oh, man, I was a I saw

2513
02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:35,120
the sun come up today, but I went to bed

2514
02:28:35,159 --> 02:28:36,600
about when the sun was coming up.

2515
02:28:36,639 --> 02:28:40,200
Speaker 3: So awesome.

2516
02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:44,120
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Daniel, and it's a pleasure.

2517
02:28:44,479 --> 02:28:46,360
Speaker 3: Hey, Jeff and Doug, we have we have to do

2518
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:46,920
lunch again.

2519
02:28:47,159 --> 02:28:48,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, we'll have you.

2520
02:28:48,799 --> 02:28:51,760
Speaker 4: We'll have you back and we'll yeah, pick up on

2521
02:28:51,799 --> 02:28:54,520
some more CRYPTI stories.

2522
02:28:54,799 --> 02:28:58,319
Speaker 3: Cool, all right, guys. Hey Roger, great seat again, buddy,

2523
02:28:58,520 --> 02:29:00,000
you too. Bye.

2524
02:29:00,559 --> 02:29:02,559
Speaker 4: Have a safe flow.

2525
02:29:03,799 --> 02:29:06,399
Speaker 3: I will, man, and don't forget man. Don't bump your

2526
02:29:06,399 --> 02:29:07,120
head walking.

2527
02:29:06,920 --> 02:29:09,719
Speaker 4: Through the door because you because I am taller.

2528
02:29:10,239 --> 02:29:12,680
Speaker 3: I see you guys later. Bye, guys.

2529
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:16,000
Speaker 10: See Oh my god.

2530
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:18,399
Speaker 4: Now what now?

2531
02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:21,920
Speaker 9: What talk about? Well, I've got that. I've got the

2532
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:23,520
clip that he talked about. I got that right.

2533
02:29:23,799 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's play that real quick.

2534
02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:27,760
Speaker 9: Let's talk about this.

2535
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:30,840
Speaker 4: It's hard. Here's my point on a clip like this.

2536
02:29:31,319 --> 02:29:34,559
Audio is the hardest thing to fake. It's even harder

2537
02:29:34,600 --> 02:29:38,239
than visuals is audio. So listen to the audio.

2538
02:29:39,399 --> 02:29:40,840
Speaker 9: This is straight from his podcast.

2539
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:50,959
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure we have permission. Turn up the volume.

2540
02:29:56,760 --> 02:29:56,959
Speaker 15: One.

2541
02:29:57,040 --> 02:29:59,879
Speaker 16: What's the address of your emergency?

2542
02:30:00,399 --> 02:30:03,440
Speaker 12: I'm driving on two ten. I just crossed the Black River,

2543
02:30:03,559 --> 02:30:06,200
and I thought I saw a guy standing on the

2544
02:30:06,200 --> 02:30:07,280
side of the road bleeding.

2545
02:30:08,559 --> 02:30:11,600
Speaker 16: Okay, where are you at, sir.

2546
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:16,079
Speaker 12: I'm on two ten, I just crossed the Black River.

2547
02:30:16,159 --> 02:30:23,159
I'm heading forwards fifty three E. I just passed Patriots.

2548
02:30:23,239 --> 02:30:23,600
Speaker 4: Watch.

2549
02:30:24,520 --> 02:30:32,520
Speaker 16: Okay, see you're aver near Morse Creek chet Okay, And

2550
02:30:32,600 --> 02:30:35,399
did you you saw me and stand on the side

2551
02:30:35,399 --> 02:30:38,559
of the road, just ma'am.

2552
02:30:38,600 --> 02:30:40,159
Speaker 12: And it looked like he was bleeding because when I

2553
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:42,520
drove by, I had my high beings on and all

2554
02:30:42,559 --> 02:30:44,760
I could see was just some streaks of breast going

2555
02:30:44,799 --> 02:30:47,520
down in his body, starting at his head.

2556
02:30:48,879 --> 02:30:54,360
Speaker 16: Okay, Hold, I'm trying to get back to where you're at. Okay,

2557
02:30:54,719 --> 02:30:55,520
I'm trying.

2558
02:30:55,239 --> 02:30:57,639
Speaker 12: It in the middle of the woods at the moment.

2559
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:00,280
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm familiar with the area.

2560
02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:05,760
Speaker 8: Now partnering with dish Starlight.

2561
02:31:09,239 --> 02:31:12,200
Speaker 4: I don't think that was the whole clip. That wasn't

2562
02:31:12,239 --> 02:31:15,520
the clip, tritting that. That was not the clip.

2563
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:17,920
Speaker 10: Jeff, you're muting your muted.

2564
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:20,319
Speaker 9: Jeff, Yeah, that's it.

2565
02:31:20,319 --> 02:31:25,360
Speaker 4: Hold on, now go to the Tristan clip. You only

2566
02:31:25,360 --> 02:31:27,159
played like a small part of that clip.

2567
02:31:27,239 --> 02:31:29,520
Speaker 9: I just played right from YouTube. But this is the

2568
02:31:29,559 --> 02:31:31,600
right clip. Hold on a second. We just went to

2569
02:31:31,639 --> 02:31:33,200
an ad the moment.

2570
02:31:33,600 --> 02:31:35,319
Speaker 16: Yes, sir, I'm familiar with the area.

2571
02:31:36,680 --> 02:31:42,239
Speaker 4: We already heard this. Just step forward a little bit.

2572
02:31:42,399 --> 02:31:43,280
Speaker 9: It's coming up.

2573
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:46,959
Speaker 16: What was that, sir, tip.

2574
02:31:46,959 --> 02:31:51,040
Speaker 4: Chair, sir?

2575
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:52,040
Speaker 16: Are you okay?

2576
02:31:52,239 --> 02:31:52,440
Speaker 9: Sir?

2577
02:31:55,959 --> 02:32:00,000
Speaker 16: Okay, what's in the road.

2578
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:00,920
Speaker 10: It's truck.

2579
02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:04,000
Speaker 16: There's something in the bed of your truck.

2580
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:06,360
Speaker 3: Just ma'am.

2581
02:32:06,399 --> 02:32:08,760
Speaker 12: I just turned on my bed lights for my trucking

2582
02:32:08,879 --> 02:32:09,879
or something in my thut.

2583
02:32:11,120 --> 02:32:13,399
Speaker 16: Okay, So when you say something, what do you mean.

2584
02:32:15,680 --> 02:32:17,120
Speaker 12: I just knocked it off to the bent of my

2585
02:32:17,200 --> 02:32:18,319
truck and went over my room.

2586
02:32:18,920 --> 02:32:20,120
Speaker 16: Okay, what was it?

2587
02:32:24,239 --> 02:32:29,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, So with these headphones on, I heard whatever it

2588
02:32:29,120 --> 02:32:32,799
was go in the truck, sound like hoofs, and I

2589
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:34,840
heard him gun. He floored it.

2590
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:36,040
Speaker 4: Really, I.

2591
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:40,680
Speaker 10: Heard the engine he when he right as he started panicking,

2592
02:32:40,760 --> 02:32:43,600
he floored it. The engine was humming. Uh are you

2593
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:45,399
going now, now one one operator?

2594
02:32:45,559 --> 02:32:46,040
Speaker 4: Oh? Really?

2595
02:32:46,239 --> 02:32:46,440
Speaker 10: When?

2596
02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:46,920
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2597
02:32:46,959 --> 02:32:48,639
Speaker 10: For a couple of years right out of high school,

2598
02:32:48,760 --> 02:32:51,319
I worked at the Sheriff's department, and I did all

2599
02:32:51,399 --> 02:32:56,200
kinds of different jobs. But uh that when somebody calls you,

2600
02:32:56,319 --> 02:32:58,440
they're not there. You're not going to call now one

2601
02:32:58,479 --> 02:33:01,399
one in prank? You know that, you can't. You know

2602
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:04,639
you don't do that. And listening to the.

2603
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:07,520
Speaker 4: I don't, Yeah, because everybody knows they're going to trace

2604
02:33:07,559 --> 02:33:08,319
your damn call.

2605
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:08,760
Speaker 9: Right.

2606
02:33:09,000 --> 02:33:11,520
Speaker 10: But I but hearing that fear that gave me flashbacks.

2607
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:14,600
Hearing that fear in his voice, needing help. I've heard

2608
02:33:14,639 --> 02:33:16,879
that so many times. You you can't fake that.

2609
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:19,479
Speaker 4: Does anybody know who he is?

2610
02:33:22,040 --> 02:33:22,399
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2611
02:33:22,559 --> 02:33:25,319
Speaker 4: Well obviously did he ever he had him on the show.

2612
02:33:25,399 --> 02:33:25,799
We got it.

2613
02:33:25,959 --> 02:33:31,360
Speaker 9: Yeahs I'm going to get that number from Daniel and

2614
02:33:31,399 --> 02:33:32,239
I'll share it with you.

2615
02:33:32,360 --> 02:33:37,079
Speaker 10: Roger all right, the h the accident on the dispatchers

2616
02:33:37,319 --> 02:33:39,360
sounded like they could be from around here somewhere.

2617
02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:40,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy.

2618
02:33:40,959 --> 02:33:43,680
Speaker 10: Well, he gave clues the highway two ten and what

2619
02:33:43,760 --> 02:33:47,200
was it the Black River, so we might could search

2620
02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:48,639
Google Earth.

2621
02:33:49,719 --> 02:33:52,879
Speaker 4: The other weird thing that I wanted love to follow up.

2622
02:33:53,040 --> 02:33:57,079
Somebody had mentioned the woman on the airplane that when

2623
02:33:57,200 --> 02:34:00,600
viral everybody filmed her, she was freaking out going that

2624
02:34:00,719 --> 02:34:05,360
guy or that person is not human, and I think

2625
02:34:05,440 --> 02:34:07,840
David Birch brought that up, that we should try to

2626
02:34:07,879 --> 02:34:15,079
locate her. That was really creepy too. Obviously that was real.

2627
02:34:15,239 --> 02:34:16,239
That was verifying.

2628
02:34:16,959 --> 02:34:22,440
Speaker 10: Well, her her reaction. First off, she got space between

2629
02:34:22,799 --> 02:34:24,360
her and whatever she was.

2630
02:34:24,319 --> 02:34:26,639
Speaker 4: Talking, right, she left and walked away.

2631
02:34:26,760 --> 02:34:31,440
Speaker 10: And then she she something was something scared that lady.

2632
02:34:31,719 --> 02:34:31,920
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2633
02:34:31,959 --> 02:34:35,200
Speaker 10: I mean, like I said, you can, you can act,

2634
02:34:35,399 --> 02:34:38,399
but I've heard and I know everybody else has too,

2635
02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:41,639
but I've heard like fear when people think they're gonna

2636
02:34:41,639 --> 02:34:46,120
die in the moment, and it's you can't fake that.

2637
02:34:46,200 --> 02:34:47,639
I don't care how good an actor you are.

2638
02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:51,159
Speaker 4: You know what, though, I have a feeling that she's

2639
02:34:51,159 --> 02:34:56,000
saw something, probably with his eyes. I'm just guessing just

2640
02:34:56,040 --> 02:34:59,879
guessing because one time. I'm not gonna say where I was,

2641
02:35:00,040 --> 02:35:02,600
I'm not gonna say who I was with, But I

2642
02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:05,639
was trying to calm somebody down who wasn't mad at me.

2643
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:08,520
They were mad at somebody else, and they were really

2644
02:35:08,559 --> 02:35:12,799
angry at them, and I'm trying to get them to like, no,

2645
02:35:12,959 --> 02:35:18,719
we don't need this. We were setting up. Yeah, I'm

2646
02:35:18,760 --> 02:35:23,440
not even gonna go to any details. And I watched

2647
02:35:23,479 --> 02:35:28,680
this angry person, this very angry person's eyes turn into

2648
02:35:28,879 --> 02:35:35,000
slits up and down, vertical slits, and their eyes kind

2649
02:35:35,040 --> 02:35:39,280
of started shaking before that happened, and I backed off

2650
02:35:39,319 --> 02:35:43,239
away from that guy because it did not It was

2651
02:35:43,360 --> 02:35:45,799
kind of like, uh, what am I looking at here?

2652
02:35:46,319 --> 02:35:48,639
And it was on a really good lighting and yet

2653
02:35:48,799 --> 02:35:54,000
their eyes turned to like reptilian slits and they were

2654
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:57,559
extremely angry when it happened. I don't think human eyes

2655
02:35:57,559 --> 02:35:59,479
are capable of that, are they?

2656
02:36:00,120 --> 02:36:02,719
Speaker 10: Mm hmmm? I don't think so.

2657
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:07,479
Speaker 4: And I, yeah, that freaked me out really bad. To

2658
02:36:07,559 --> 02:36:11,600
see that I'm close. Yeah, personally.

2659
02:36:13,559 --> 02:36:14,719
Speaker 10: Makes you makes you wonder.

2660
02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:17,639
Speaker 4: It just makes you wonder, like is that what she saw?

2661
02:36:18,479 --> 02:36:18,680
Speaker 9: You know?

2662
02:36:18,760 --> 02:36:21,360
Speaker 4: The guy was. I kind of believe in that because

2663
02:36:21,399 --> 02:36:25,079
when I when you see it yourself, you believe in it, right,

2664
02:36:26,079 --> 02:36:28,399
And I saw it myself and I was not mistaken.

2665
02:36:28,440 --> 02:36:31,840
I was in really good lighting, like really good, like

2666
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:36,280
fluorescent lighting, and this guy's I started quivering and then

2667
02:36:36,319 --> 02:36:39,639
they turned to slits, and the guy looked like a reptile,

2668
02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:43,760
and then they went back to which is the weirdest

2669
02:36:43,799 --> 02:36:45,120
part of it.

2670
02:36:45,239 --> 02:36:49,840
Speaker 10: So what the hell Rusty says he has feline eyes.

2671
02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:52,000
I ain't noticed that. I've talked to you several times

2672
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:52,559
face to face.

2673
02:36:54,360 --> 02:36:56,200
Speaker 4: Rusty's got feline eyes.

2674
02:36:56,319 --> 02:36:58,920
Speaker 10: That, yeah, that's what he said.

2675
02:36:59,399 --> 02:37:03,559
Speaker 4: Okay, well our feline eyes, Yeah, they're kind of up

2676
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:04,520
at vertical, aren't they.

2677
02:37:04,600 --> 02:37:05,760
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2678
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so our goats. Goats have weird eyes too.

2679
02:37:09,440 --> 02:37:13,920
Speaker 10: Think about this, dude, just me kicking around the why

2680
02:37:14,120 --> 02:37:18,600
and all that. You You think if now, I know

2681
02:37:18,639 --> 02:37:21,159
the people have been standing there, if they'd have been

2682
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:23,479
able to see it, maybe some of us can see

2683
02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:26,280
things that others can't. You ever thought about.

2684
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:29,399
Speaker 4: That that some of us can? Oh, I see kind

2685
02:37:29,399 --> 02:37:31,680
of like uh, Roddy Piper when he.

2686
02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:37,000
Speaker 10: Put the glasses on, right, that's awesome. I love that movie.

2687
02:37:38,120 --> 02:37:42,920
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I knew him because my business partner

2688
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:46,280
was Kurt Henning when I first started. We were shooting

2689
02:37:46,719 --> 02:37:49,559
a TV show. I mean, Kurt became good friends, and

2690
02:37:49,639 --> 02:37:53,200
he was good friends with you know, with Rod Roddy,

2691
02:37:53,959 --> 02:37:56,719
and so I'm meeting all these guys. I've met some

2692
02:37:56,719 --> 02:38:00,840
man of those guys, but he was super cool. I

2693
02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:03,200
don't believe he's around with us anymore, is he?

2694
02:38:04,360 --> 02:38:05,760
Speaker 10: I don't think so he's passed.

2695
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:06,920
Speaker 4: But that was a good movie.

2696
02:38:08,760 --> 02:38:10,879
Speaker 9: Roddy Piper, Yeah, Riddy Piper passed away.

2697
02:38:10,639 --> 02:38:13,440
Speaker 4: That they I think it was called They Live.

2698
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:15,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's John Carpenter movie.

2699
02:38:15,319 --> 02:38:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was a good movie. And but yeah,

2700
02:38:19,159 --> 02:38:22,079
maybe that's possible. But I was alone with this guy.

2701
02:38:22,120 --> 02:38:24,959
We had stepped aside, so I wanted to have words,

2702
02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:27,280
you know that like calm down, you don't need to

2703
02:38:27,319 --> 02:38:30,200
be mad about this, you know, and just trying to

2704
02:38:30,200 --> 02:38:33,559
get him just settle down. And there was a lot

2705
02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:36,920
at stake with these guys going at it, and I'm like, god,

2706
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:39,159
it's it's like the worst thing you could do right now.

2707
02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:43,440
But to see those eyes shimmer and then to go

2708
02:38:43,479 --> 02:38:49,280
to slits was quite disturbing. I never thought about that

2709
02:38:49,319 --> 02:38:50,639
guy ever the same again.

2710
02:38:50,879 --> 02:38:56,799
Speaker 9: Ever Minxy's comment father Chad Ripperger is American Catholic priest.

2711
02:38:56,840 --> 02:38:59,680
He's he's he's the top exorcist in the in the

2712
02:38:59,719 --> 02:39:03,559
North America, and it's worth watching interviews with him. He

2713
02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:08,000
talks about that kind of stuff, shape shifters, and yeah,

2714
02:39:08,399 --> 02:39:15,399
that's straight out of you know, kind of esoteric Catholic theology.

2715
02:39:15,840 --> 02:39:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy stuff. I'm looking here. I talked to a

2716
02:39:24,639 --> 02:39:28,639
boy with diamond shaped pupils. They're rare, but real well,

2717
02:39:28,840 --> 02:39:32,840
I know, but this is not. This guy's eyes changed

2718
02:39:34,239 --> 02:39:37,360
and they're like really reptilian looking. I mean, everything about

2719
02:39:37,360 --> 02:39:40,600
the eye wasn't just the pupils, it was the whole eye,

2720
02:39:40,799 --> 02:39:44,399
just to color. Everything changed and then it was like

2721
02:39:44,600 --> 02:39:47,239
he realized it and they went back to normal again.

2722
02:39:47,840 --> 02:39:50,799
Speaker 10: I've only seen eyes like that one time, but it

2723
02:39:50,840 --> 02:39:52,760
didn't they didn't change. I was at our store where

2724
02:39:52,760 --> 02:39:55,120
I was younger, and a couple came in. It was

2725
02:39:55,159 --> 02:39:57,639
a lady and when I looked up, the hand to

2726
02:39:57,680 --> 02:40:01,280
her change back. Her eyes had pupils that were elongated,

2727
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:05,440
and I know, I couldn't hide it. I you know,

2728
02:40:06,159 --> 02:40:09,239
stared at her and she smiled, and I just I

2729
02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:12,159
was being respectful, you know, And I wish I had

2730
02:40:12,399 --> 02:40:15,280
asked her about it, because I mean, I think I

2731
02:40:15,319 --> 02:40:19,079
think some people might have that, but they didn't change

2732
02:40:19,159 --> 02:40:21,479
or anything. But it was just odd looking into a

2733
02:40:21,559 --> 02:40:25,719
human's face and seeing cat eyes. You know, I don't

2734
02:40:25,760 --> 02:40:27,799
think they were you.

2735
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:31,200
Speaker 4: Know, did you ever see it? Did you ever see

2736
02:40:31,200 --> 02:40:37,559
anybody with black you know, the completely black eyes? No? Good, No,

2737
02:40:37,760 --> 02:40:40,520
it was I was where the heck was the Oh

2738
02:40:40,559 --> 02:40:46,319
we were at a mall and it was just a family.

2739
02:40:46,440 --> 02:40:48,280
I don't know. It was like a woman and her

2740
02:40:48,280 --> 02:40:52,000
two kids, and they all had black eyes. Black eyes

2741
02:40:52,280 --> 02:40:55,040
in the mall at this table, now brown eyes, they

2742
02:40:55,040 --> 02:40:59,239
were black. We were just staring at him while we

2743
02:40:59,280 --> 02:40:59,920
were eating.

2744
02:41:00,600 --> 02:41:04,239
Speaker 10: Was the weirdest thing, the weirdest thing that I've ever

2745
02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:08,079
encountered with humans. A man, a hitchhiker come in. He

2746
02:41:08,159 --> 02:41:10,200
was an old man, probably you know, I don't know

2747
02:41:10,239 --> 02:41:15,079
how he was, but he's really dirty and he was speaking.

2748
02:41:16,120 --> 02:41:18,879
It wasn't a language, but he was constantly talking. I

2749
02:41:18,879 --> 02:41:22,600
couldn't understand. I didn't pick up on anything that I

2750
02:41:22,639 --> 02:41:27,000
that I recognized, and I something about this man. He

2751
02:41:27,079 --> 02:41:30,440
walked up to the counter and his eyes were blue

2752
02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:32,600
as they could be. The whites were as white as

2753
02:41:32,600 --> 02:41:36,120
they could be really and I felt I felt this peace,

2754
02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:39,399
and I gave him. I went, I got like six

2755
02:41:39,479 --> 02:41:42,840
bottles of water and some food and everything, and I'm like, here, man,

2756
02:41:43,040 --> 02:41:44,879
take this, I know you're probably having a hard time.

2757
02:41:45,319 --> 02:41:47,520
And he took one bottle of water and one snack

2758
02:41:47,600 --> 02:41:50,200
and pushed the rest to me. The beer man. The

2759
02:41:50,200 --> 02:41:53,280
beer man was outside. I saw him talking to him,

2760
02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:57,239
and he had bottles of water on the truck too

2761
02:41:57,319 --> 02:41:59,879
and all that, and he said, you need anything. He

2762
02:42:00,120 --> 02:42:03,920
shook his head no. And when he came in, I'm like,

2763
02:42:04,639 --> 02:42:07,120
did you find that weird? He said, man, I got

2764
02:42:07,159 --> 02:42:10,360
I've got chills. I said, what do you think that was?

2765
02:42:10,440 --> 02:42:13,799
He said, I don't know. I've never had anybody, hitchhiker,

2766
02:42:14,040 --> 02:42:16,399
homeless turn anything down. I said, dude, I tried to

2767
02:42:16,399 --> 02:42:18,120
give it. I tried to load him up with stuff

2768
02:42:18,280 --> 02:42:20,520
and he only took what he needed. I've never had

2769
02:42:20,520 --> 02:42:24,479
that happen either. And we I said, do we just

2770
02:42:24,479 --> 02:42:28,159
say an angel? He said, I wouldn't put I wouldn't

2771
02:42:28,159 --> 02:42:31,000
write that off, because that's the weird. Looking in his

2772
02:42:31,120 --> 02:42:34,680
eyes was the most peaceful, weird thing I've ever experienced

2773
02:42:34,719 --> 02:42:37,040
in my life. So we had the same experience and

2774
02:42:37,120 --> 02:42:39,520
he was outside, I was inside. We talked about it later,

2775
02:42:39,799 --> 02:42:42,280
you know, the same a few minutes later. I don't

2776
02:42:42,280 --> 02:42:46,079
know what that was, but I have heard stories since

2777
02:42:46,120 --> 02:42:50,559
then the same thing, the exact same situation, So I

2778
02:42:50,559 --> 02:42:50,920
don't know.

2779
02:42:52,239 --> 02:42:55,000
Speaker 4: So he had asked about whether the black no, the

2780
02:42:55,120 --> 02:43:00,280
whole eye, the whites, everything black. Wow, it was really weird.

2781
02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:02,600
And we just kept staring with my daughter and we

2782
02:43:02,760 --> 02:43:05,760
just kept staring at this. I felt bad for him

2783
02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:09,079
because I think they started noticing we were staring. But

2784
02:43:09,239 --> 02:43:11,840
I don't think somebody would put contacts in the little

2785
02:43:11,920 --> 02:43:15,120
kids too, right, for it wasn't around Halloween or anything.

2786
02:43:15,399 --> 02:43:18,520
What the deal was going on there? And you've heard

2787
02:43:18,559 --> 02:43:21,360
about the black eyed kids, right and all that stuff,

2788
02:43:22,200 --> 02:43:25,680
which is kind of a creepy, you know, creepy pasta

2789
02:43:25,959 --> 02:43:27,799
kind of stuff that goes on.

2790
02:43:28,959 --> 02:43:34,239
Speaker 10: Well, I have a family photo, probably from the early

2791
02:43:34,319 --> 02:43:40,840
nineteen hundreds, maybe a little later, and I didn't Kenny Shivers,

2792
02:43:40,920 --> 02:43:44,760
our buddy, found all this for me. And so it

2793
02:43:44,959 --> 02:43:48,479
was great great great great granddaddy and his second wife

2794
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:50,719
and then all of these little kids.

2795
02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:51,000
Speaker 9: Doug.

2796
02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:53,000
Speaker 10: I'll see if I can find the picture all of

2797
02:43:53,040 --> 02:43:55,399
these little kids that he had with his new lady.

2798
02:43:55,479 --> 02:43:59,120
Even the woman in that photo, they look like they

2799
02:43:59,159 --> 02:44:02,159
have black eyes, the creepiest looking picture. You're a single life.

2800
02:44:02,440 --> 02:44:08,799
But I'll see if I can find that. But I

2801
02:44:08,840 --> 02:44:11,600
don't know. There's so much. It's like, you get into this,

2802
02:44:11,680 --> 02:44:15,239
you want to learn about Bigfoot and everything that comes

2803
02:44:15,280 --> 02:44:16,799
along with it. You don't know where to put it.

2804
02:44:17,399 --> 02:44:19,600
And but when you get out in the woods or

2805
02:44:19,639 --> 02:44:22,760
out at midnight, at one o'clock in the morning and

2806
02:44:22,799 --> 02:44:25,719
this weird stuff, you hear things that you wouldn't hear

2807
02:44:25,719 --> 02:44:30,239
done during the day. I heard a woman laughing out

2808
02:44:30,280 --> 02:44:34,319
at the land, and Heather didn't hear and hurt. See

2809
02:44:34,319 --> 02:44:37,200
that's the thing. Her hearing is better than mine. And

2810
02:44:37,239 --> 02:44:41,000
I heard clearly a woman laughing. There's nobody within a

2811
02:44:41,079 --> 02:44:44,959
long ways from this place, and I'm like, did you

2812
02:44:45,000 --> 02:44:48,440
hear that woman laughing? She know usually she's asking me,

2813
02:44:48,559 --> 02:44:51,120
did you hear this? Did you hear that? The next

2814
02:44:51,200 --> 02:44:54,159
time we went, I heard the same life from the

2815
02:44:54,200 --> 02:44:59,239
same area and I've never heard it again, but that

2816
02:45:00,399 --> 02:45:03,079
he reminded me of a cartoon witch, you know what

2817
02:45:03,120 --> 02:45:07,799
I mean, like a cackle. And I look, y'all, when

2818
02:45:07,840 --> 02:45:10,920
I start telling stories, I know there's people this first

2819
02:45:10,959 --> 02:45:14,719
time they've heard me talk. I know I sound crazy,

2820
02:45:14,840 --> 02:45:16,799
but all I can tell is what I've heard, what

2821
02:45:16,840 --> 02:45:21,079
I've seen, you know, and all that Doug Pro Wrestling.

2822
02:45:22,159 --> 02:45:24,319
Oh my god, I got it, I got it.

2823
02:45:24,760 --> 02:45:25,799
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what is it?

2824
02:45:25,879 --> 02:45:30,959
Speaker 10: Roger Magicchick? Oh god, I check Magic.

2825
02:45:31,079 --> 02:45:31,319
Speaker 9: Well.

2826
02:45:31,399 --> 02:45:33,680
Speaker 4: I used to hang out with a guy named mister Perfect,

2827
02:45:33,799 --> 02:45:37,360
so there you go. Oh had We had so much

2828
02:45:37,399 --> 02:45:39,399
fun with that name. And I was actually it was

2829
02:45:39,440 --> 02:45:42,159
weird because I was thinking about Kurt today because I

2830
02:45:42,319 --> 02:45:49,079
saw something on Facebook and then Eric had mentioned that

2831
02:45:49,200 --> 02:45:54,079
he knew or Kurt's son, Joe, and he lived only

2832
02:45:54,159 --> 02:45:56,440
a couple of blocks from Miss House, and so I

2833
02:45:56,719 --> 02:45:59,600
was got to call Joe and tell him some stories

2834
02:45:59,600 --> 02:46:05,559
about us father lots of awesome. I knew Larry really

2835
02:46:05,559 --> 02:46:09,719
well too. Yeah, I knew obviously Joe's grandfather and Larry.

2836
02:46:09,840 --> 02:46:14,799
Oh my god, the weirdest Larry story I have, But

2837
02:46:14,840 --> 02:46:20,000
I gotta tell. I gotta tell this story. So with

2838
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:23,000
I'm with Larry. We're at my office, and Larry the

2839
02:46:23,000 --> 02:46:27,440
accent and I just Larry kept having me because I

2840
02:46:27,479 --> 02:46:30,639
was working with Kurt. So Larry's like, oh, Doug can

2841
02:46:30,680 --> 02:46:33,879
shoot our because Larry liked to raise money for kids.

2842
02:46:34,879 --> 02:46:37,920
So Larry's like, Doug, can you shoot this thing for

2843
02:46:38,280 --> 02:46:41,399
this event, shoot the commercial for this event. Whatever. So

2844
02:46:41,479 --> 02:46:43,920
I do all this stuff, no charge for him. So

2845
02:46:44,040 --> 02:46:46,760
me and Larry became friends too, And Larry's in my

2846
02:46:46,840 --> 02:46:51,120
office and one day he gets a call and he goes, yeah,

2847
02:46:51,360 --> 02:46:55,760
he's talking to this guy and he goes he goes, Doug,

2848
02:46:56,000 --> 02:46:58,399
talk to this guy for a second. He's really famous.

2849
02:47:00,399 --> 02:47:04,840
He was the one that flew Theanola Gay and dropped

2850
02:47:04,840 --> 02:47:07,680
a Hiroshima bomb. And I'm like, he just hands me

2851
02:47:07,760 --> 02:47:13,799
the phone and I'm talking to this guy, going uh,

2852
02:47:15,079 --> 02:47:16,040
oh my god.

2853
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:18,200
Speaker 9: Larry the Axe, he was a legend.

2854
02:47:18,399 --> 02:47:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's before he had his beard, and that

2855
02:47:20,319 --> 02:47:22,360
was when he was young. But he looks a lot

2856
02:47:22,479 --> 02:47:24,840
like Hurt in that picture put up a picture of

2857
02:47:24,920 --> 02:47:33,440
Kurt Sure, mister perfect. And but Larry, Larry's like, why

2858
02:47:33,520 --> 02:47:35,559
why did you have me talk to him? He goes, well,

2859
02:47:35,639 --> 02:47:37,920
because we're gonna work on a project and you're gonna

2860
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:41,680
film it. I'm like, oh gosh, I mean, is that

2861
02:47:41,879 --> 02:47:45,200
some bad maybe bad karma talking to the guy that

2862
02:47:46,120 --> 02:47:52,280
dropped a nuclear weapon or a hydrogen weapon on a Citio.

2863
02:47:52,680 --> 02:47:53,760
Speaker 10: And his cat bombed.

2864
02:47:53,760 --> 02:47:59,920
Speaker 9: Oh, I love that sidetrack him like this. I love

2865
02:48:00,120 --> 02:48:01,600
this stuff is great.

2866
02:48:01,719 --> 02:48:07,799
Speaker 4: That's fine. Uh. That's obviously a younger picture of Kurt.

2867
02:48:08,959 --> 02:48:11,440
He kind of looked like that when I first started

2868
02:48:11,479 --> 02:48:14,040
working with him, kind of a kid. But then he

2869
02:48:14,079 --> 02:48:16,760
went to this go ahead and put on mister perfect

2870
02:48:16,840 --> 02:48:22,479
Kurt when he went to work for the w w E.

2871
02:48:23,600 --> 02:48:26,479
But Kurt was really he really was a wonderful guy.

2872
02:48:26,639 --> 02:48:29,239
I really enjoyed his It was like a brother to me.

2873
02:48:29,319 --> 02:48:33,479
He was a great friend, and he uh had the

2874
02:48:33,520 --> 02:48:37,239
greatest sense of humor ever. I was happy, I was smiling,

2875
02:48:37,879 --> 02:48:41,799
and we did a lot of crazy stuff together, riding

2876
02:48:41,799 --> 02:48:45,280
a uh in a motor home with a whole bunch

2877
02:48:45,319 --> 02:48:49,159
of uh. There's that's fake, that's.

2878
02:48:48,959 --> 02:48:58,159
Speaker 9: Not him, that's a that's sorry grows uh.

2879
02:48:58,399 --> 02:49:01,280
Speaker 4: But he with the a whole bunch of wrestlers and

2880
02:49:01,360 --> 02:49:04,440
you're out partying, and these guys were all these you

2881
02:49:04,479 --> 02:49:10,399
know ww wwf WWE wrestlers, and I would always be

2882
02:49:10,440 --> 02:49:12,639
the one to keep them in line because I'm the

2883
02:49:12,680 --> 02:49:14,719
guy they're not going to pick on. I was like

2884
02:49:14,799 --> 02:49:17,600
a third of their size, and so I could tell

2885
02:49:17,639 --> 02:49:21,200
them what to do and get away with it. Knock

2886
02:49:21,239 --> 02:49:24,120
it off. You know, it was constantly We're not doing that.

2887
02:49:24,159 --> 02:49:28,000
We're not going there. We're not doing that. Don't take

2888
02:49:28,040 --> 02:49:31,079
a p there. No, don't do that. There's people walking there.

2889
02:49:31,280 --> 02:49:34,040
Don't do this, don't do that. We had fun. You know,

2890
02:49:35,239 --> 02:49:36,319
Jeff's having a trouble.

2891
02:49:36,319 --> 02:49:41,520
Speaker 9: There's got to be a Jillian picture. Yeah, that's I

2892
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:46,040
think that's Ai too, But that's He.

2893
02:49:46,319 --> 02:49:47,760
Speaker 4: That's not that's Ai.

2894
02:49:48,200 --> 02:49:51,639
Speaker 10: Trust me, Okay, everything they are now.

2895
02:49:51,680 --> 02:49:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people are putting up yeah, because you know

2896
02:49:54,319 --> 02:49:59,280
it's been you know, twenty four years probably since Kirk's passed.

2897
02:50:00,079 --> 02:50:05,319
It's been a while. Any of them that I never

2898
02:50:05,360 --> 02:50:08,639
did ask Kurt if you ever saw a ghost or

2899
02:50:08,760 --> 02:50:10,120
cryptid or whatnot.

2900
02:50:10,200 --> 02:50:11,079
Speaker 9: All right, let's.

2901
02:50:10,840 --> 02:50:15,639
Speaker 4: Wrap this up. We're off target completely, Roger, just hang

2902
02:50:15,719 --> 02:50:16,879
in there one more second.

2903
02:50:17,639 --> 02:50:20,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll be right back. Let's play some wisdom.

2904
02:50:21,040 --> 02:50:24,399
Speaker 1: It's now time for Untold Radio AM Wisdom of the Week.

2905
02:50:24,680 --> 02:50:30,000
Patience is power. It sharpens judgment, prevents costly mistakes, and

2906
02:50:30,079 --> 02:50:33,360
puts you in control when others lose theirs. It lets

2907
02:50:33,399 --> 02:50:36,600
you see opportunities others miss and act at the right

2908
02:50:36,639 --> 02:50:39,760
moment instead of the fast one. In the long run.

2909
02:50:39,920 --> 02:50:42,879
Patience doesn't slow success, it multiplies it.

2910
02:50:43,680 --> 02:50:44,079
Speaker 9: Good Night.

2911
02:50:44,200 --> 02:50:46,639
Speaker 1: We hope to see you all next week. If you

2912
02:50:46,799 --> 02:50:49,680
like the show tonight, please consider giving us a thumbs up,

2913
02:50:50,120 --> 02:50:53,079
leaving a nice comment, and most of all, subscribing and

2914
02:50:53,159 --> 02:50:55,680
hitting the bell so you will be notified when a

2915
02:50:55,719 --> 02:50:56,840
new episode is dropping.

2916
02:50:57,680 --> 02:50:59,239
Speaker 9: Also, please share this episode.

2917
02:51:00,200 --> 02:51:02,559
Speaker 1: Now back to Doug and Jeff for our rap.

2918
02:51:07,040 --> 02:51:12,600
Speaker 4: We are back, we are back, We'll be back. Thank

2919
02:51:12,639 --> 02:51:16,520
you for watching all of this. You're home for unverified crap.

2920
02:51:20,600 --> 02:51:25,959
I'll have to uh talk to you Roger tomorrow. Good time.

2921
02:51:26,360 --> 02:51:30,120
We can go over a bunch of new new things

2922
02:51:30,159 --> 02:51:32,440
going on. Hm.

2923
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:35,360
Speaker 10: Now we'll he plants, seeds and I want to be

2924
02:51:35,399 --> 02:51:36,319
able to sleep tonight.

2925
02:51:39,559 --> 02:51:41,520
Speaker 4: It's all good, it's all good stuff.

2926
02:51:42,000 --> 02:51:43,520
Speaker 10: I'm calling you after the show.

2927
02:51:43,559 --> 02:51:47,399
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's fine. Can you can but good night?

2928
02:51:47,479 --> 02:51:50,799
Everybody would be back. I do not know who our

2929
02:51:50,840 --> 02:51:55,280
guest speaks to either, because I never know. It's written

2930
02:51:55,319 --> 02:51:58,719
in the calendar. Well, we'll be here tomorrow, and thank

2931
02:51:58,760 --> 02:51:59,799
you so much, Roger.

2932
02:52:00,079 --> 02:52:02,000
Speaker 9: Thanks Roger, surprised again.

2933
02:52:03,520 --> 02:52:06,399
Speaker 4: With your friendly southern drawl.

2934
02:52:07,159 --> 02:52:12,600
Speaker 10: Well, I appreciate it. I don't I don't know what

2935
02:52:12,639 --> 02:52:14,559
the appeal is. But I have people. I used to

2936
02:52:14,600 --> 02:52:18,559
have people come in our store from traveling from up north,

2937
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:21,719
and I've had so many times people bring video cameras

2938
02:52:21,719 --> 02:52:23,000
in can you talk again? Can you?

2939
02:52:26,000 --> 02:52:26,799
Speaker 9: Yeah? Can you? Yeah?

2940
02:52:26,920 --> 02:52:29,520
Speaker 10: Just just do that right there. I'm like, okay, and y'all,

2941
02:52:29,799 --> 02:52:32,920
I'm actually worse. I'm actually worse than this. But I

2942
02:52:33,040 --> 02:52:35,600
slow down and annunciate. If you catch me out around

2943
02:52:35,600 --> 02:52:37,440
the fire, you won't be able to understand what I'm saying.

2944
02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:42,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's funny. It's funny. Yeah, it's a

2945
02:52:42,600 --> 02:52:46,879
fun show tonight. Yeah, I'm sorry for all the goofing

2946
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:50,639
around tonight. It just happens. It's just happened that night

2947
02:52:50,719 --> 02:52:53,559
that the tongues were hanging out all of our news pictures.

2948
02:52:54,159 --> 02:52:57,120
Speaker 9: Remember that, Yes I do. It was a fun night too,

2949
02:52:57,200 --> 02:52:58,239
So that fun.

2950
02:52:58,520 --> 02:53:00,280
Speaker 10: When I got up off the couch, heathers, so where

2951
02:53:00,280 --> 02:53:02,239
are you going? I said, I have been summoned.

2952
02:53:04,719 --> 02:53:04,959
Speaker 16: Mad.

2953
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:07,920
Speaker 4: Others not gonna like me.

2954
02:53:08,559 --> 02:53:08,600
Speaker 7: No.

2955
02:53:08,879 --> 02:53:14,920
Speaker 10: She hears all the h the conversations when we're on

2956
02:53:14,959 --> 02:53:17,280
speakerphone and all that, and she just over there smiling

2957
02:53:17,319 --> 02:53:22,120
and laughing at us. Yeah, it's just like just like

2958
02:53:22,200 --> 02:53:25,120
your wife. I mean, I've talked her more times than

2959
02:53:27,120 --> 02:53:30,200
and uh, you know who would have thought six years

2960
02:53:30,200 --> 02:53:33,000
ago when I first started doing this.

2961
02:53:33,200 --> 02:53:35,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because I'll call me and I just I

2962
02:53:35,479 --> 02:53:43,559
don't even reward Roger your in, either of them, just patriman,

2963
02:53:44,159 --> 02:53:47,079
and so I watch what I'm saying at all times

2964
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:49,840
now with him, so you never know when he's gonna

2965
02:53:49,840 --> 02:53:50,399
do you like that?

2966
02:53:50,719 --> 02:53:53,600
Speaker 10: Oh this is the person right here. How long you

2967
02:53:53,719 --> 02:53:54,360
been on here?

2968
02:53:55,639 --> 02:53:58,959
Speaker 4: Yeah? I uh, I happened of doing that with all

2969
02:53:59,000 --> 02:54:01,879
sorts of people. One day I did that, and then

2970
02:54:01,959 --> 02:54:07,079
we ended up with like five people on. I just

2971
02:54:07,159 --> 02:54:08,840
got patching him in, patching him in.

2972
02:54:08,959 --> 02:54:11,920
Speaker 10: Patching, I asked, Doug, I've already picked up on I

2973
02:54:11,959 --> 02:54:14,120
know when people are coming in. I said, I need

2974
02:54:14,159 --> 02:54:18,639
to fly up there and and grease your door.

2975
02:54:19,000 --> 02:54:19,559
Speaker 9: Yeah you do.

2976
02:54:20,239 --> 02:54:23,360
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well you can flow up flow up here,

2977
02:54:23,399 --> 02:54:25,959
as Daniel would say, come up here and flow up

2978
02:54:25,959 --> 02:54:29,719
here in the grease door. And okay, remember this crap

2979
02:54:30,319 --> 02:54:34,000
all night with this stuff. We love everybody. Thank you

2980
02:54:34,079 --> 02:54:38,120
so much. You guys were a really fun crowd. We

2981
02:54:38,200 --> 02:54:41,399
will be back next week, same time, same channel, and

2982
02:54:41,440 --> 02:54:42,159
thank you Roger.

2983
02:54:42,639 --> 02:54:46,200
Speaker 10: Thanks everybody always fun.

2984
02:54:46,719 --> 02:54:49,559
Speaker 14: Can call you up in the middle of the night

2985
02:54:50,120 --> 02:54:54,879
and bothered by dreams and feeling all day. You give

2986
02:54:55,000 --> 02:54:58,120
me comfort, say just give it some time by the

2987
02:54:58,239 --> 02:55:03,600
end of the talk, fe heeling fine during our race,

2988
02:55:03,760 --> 02:55:06,360
No will we be long.

2989
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:18,319
Speaker 17: The same ordinarysm we got go in all, I pick

2990
02:55:18,440 --> 02:55:20,840
you up, and not fifteen our part.

2991
02:55:21,280 --> 02:55:23,120
Speaker 4: We shad on down the road.

2992
02:55:23,200 --> 02:55:30,319
Speaker 14: Till we care for just doing the sudden gowin if welciou.

2993
02:55:29,760 --> 02:55:36,239
Speaker 5: Stop calling, ohad on home again everybody chance where we

2994
02:55:36,479 --> 02:55:44,360
be long in no ordinary we gotta go in.

2995
02:55:44,760 --> 02:55:51,879
Speaker 6: All at the end of the world together forever swall

2996
02:55:52,079 --> 02:55:52,920
and our ray.

2997
02:55:53,479 --> 02:55:56,879
Speaker 5: It better you should be in town in our race.

2998
02:55:57,360 --> 02:56:01,239
Speaker 6: We never confuse far Norway.

2999
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:05,159
Speaker 5: All the time I would made.

3000
02:56:05,200 --> 02:56:11,360
Speaker 6: Together, never reday, but it never would be less trained

3001
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:14,399
up alway basic.

3002
02:56:15,200 --> 02:56:16,879
Speaker 5: You lokay.

3003
02:56:34,239 --> 02:56:38,680
Speaker 6: Every end of the world together forever it is well

3004
02:56:39,239 --> 02:56:39,760
our way.

3005
02:56:40,360 --> 02:56:44,719
Speaker 14: It never you should be endowed and comparate. They never

3006
02:56:45,239 --> 02:56:48,079
compose a part in Norway.

3007
02:56:49,840 --> 02:56:54,319
Speaker 6: At the end of the world together forever is fond

3008
02:56:54,520 --> 02:56:59,239
in Norway. If never you should be endowed and Hollway.

3009
02:56:59,760 --> 02:57:02,319
Speaker 10: They never stops partly.

3010
02:57:02,559 --> 02:57:09,120
Speaker 5: Always at the time whenever we beg together, we never

3011
02:57:09,319 --> 02:57:14,000
retable find those we never would be at straight and

3012
02:57:14,280 --> 02:57:18,440
all by the way, by going to jug