Speaker 1: Tonight's guest, Daniel Hamilton Strange crypts before the.
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Then resting home in the crowd, stick around through the
create the feeling for the fire.
Speaker 3: You'll be dancing around.
Speaker 2: Only here is the sound of the treating, and no
one cares where.
Speaker 4: He's coming from. My ears are string and feeding.
Speaker 2: I guess we are new from the start.
Speaker 3: The other days not close. You know, one of these days.
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Speaker 4: These are the test, my cost.
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AF with Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co
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Speaker 1: Now Here are your Untold Radio A m posts, Doug
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Speaker 4: Hello everyone, Hello, good evening, Jeff, good evening everybody. Yes,
our Untoldians, what a beautiful evening tonight. So join the weather.
I hope everybody's not listening to our podcast and just
join the weather. Just kidding. It is nice.
Speaker 9: It was like a day time.
Speaker 4: Sixty nine today and sunny like there wasn't even a
contrail in the sky. That was just a blue robin,
blue skies all day. I never even saw yet or
an airplane.
Speaker 9: The windows all open and getting it was great.
Speaker 4: Don't people fly on Sunday? It's like, what's going on? Anyhow?
What do we got other than this? Definitely is for
absolutely sure my favorite month. I don't know about you,
but me, it's.
Speaker 9: Just we really thought it and I like fall.
Speaker 4: Well yeah I know, but everything goes from brown and
greens and purples and blues and all the trees are flowered,
and I mean it really is, because it's pretty dismal
about you know, November, and then it gets even worse
in the spring when the snow thaws out everything dirty
looking and anyhow, now it's beautiful.
Speaker 9: I love it.
Speaker 4: Okay, what do we get going on tonight? We have
Daniel Hamilton joining us, and we're going to talk about
cryptids all over America. Yeah and yeah and the people
that encounter them. So me and Daniel had lunch on
remember what day. It was Saturday. We had lunch on Saturday.
Of course, we picked the worst restaurant you could ever pick,
right by the international soccer thing going on, and there's
like one hundred thousand people in town right next to
the restaurant that we picked. Two I'm not exaggerating, two
and a half hours before we got our food. That
was like what. But we went on. We went on
the patio we weren't supposed to be at and we
went on the patio and just you know, and enjoyed
the sun and covered was quiet. Nobody was out there,
so it was cool. So anyhow, that's what I did
on Saturday, waiting for a burger. Oh okay, so we're
gonna go down some some strange stuff and we talked
a little bit about what we're gonna talk about tonight,
so it will definitely be definitely So what do we got.
We've got weird news, weird fact, weird fact. Is that
worth even announcing the weird fact of the week. Yeah,
it's true. It's kind of weird. And we've got clips tonight,
clip picks, and we've got some other stuff. So you
definitely don't want to stay tuned. Grab a chill beverage
like Jeff as and I do I have. I'm on
a dan. I'm on, Jeff, I've gotta drink. I've got
to drink this. Some kids sugar tastes good, I guess,
And I have my my water too. But you got
it's a graphical beverage. Get a comfy chair, get something
to keep you safe in the lights, and we'll get underway.
Speaker 9: All right, some news.
Speaker 4: It's time for weird and fast knees. And what could
be weirder than scientists growing a mini I repeat many
beating heart in a lab dish.
Speaker 9: That's a terrible idea.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, what could be weirder than that? So apparently
researchers have successfully grown a tiny, functional human heart like
structure whatever that means, that actually beats using stem cells,
unlike earlier organoids. Now have you ever heard of the
word organoid?
Speaker 9: Yes you did, Yeah, we talked about it last week.
Speaker 4: We don't use here, not organoids. You probably call them
organ pies or something.
Speaker 9: Organ pies.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, this one shows coordinated contractions in early chamber formations,
basically a primitive heart in a dish. The goal isn't
to create a full organ yet, but to study heart
disease and test drugs in real human tissue without risk.
It says we're now at a point where scientists can
grow parts of the human body that function on their own,
which kind of feels like something straight out of science fiction.
Speaker 9: Yeah. I think it's a terrible idea. Yeah, what do
I know?
Speaker 4: I did get invited once. I'm not gonna say by
who to go into a lab and look at all
of this organ's growing, And I went, I don't want to.
Speaker 9: No, that's just.
Speaker 4: One of the hour drive. And I'm like, nah, I'm
gonna pass on that. I might have nightmares, but little
beating hearts anyhow. And then next, which is totally unassociated
with the little beating hearts in a dish, is humpback
whales create a new type of bubble net. Have you
ever seen this done.
Speaker 9: Jeff, Yeah, I've seen. That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 4: Like you're blown out cigars smokering, same thing, right.
Speaker 9: They're hurting, hurting the kayat Pretty crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Marine biologists just documented humpback whales using previously unseen
hunting strategies. I know they've known about bubble rings. This
is modifying their famous bubble net feeding technique. Some whales
were observed coordinating in new patterns, almost like they were
teaching and evolving tactics socially crazy. Now, this suggests whales
intelligence is even more advanced than we thought. I think
they're smarter than we are. Yeah, yeah, I mean think
about it. Their brain's got a weigh like what two
three hundred pounds? I want a brain that big could do? Okay,
So it's not just instinct but shared learning and cultural behavior.
In other words, whales might have their own version of
passing down knowledge, kind of like the Hunting playbook.
Speaker 9: So cool, I think.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna try that in a swimming pool.
Speaker 9: A bubble net, and I'll video. I'll put it on TikTok.
Speaker 4: God. I remember those days where I had to go
swimming all the time. I like swimming, but it's the
thought of doing it and then you get it in here.
I usually cold for a little while and then you
do it. But gosh, my kids are all growing, but man,
they like to swim.
Speaker 9: I did too. I was a varsy swimmer. A lot
of fen.
Speaker 4: All right. Next, nothing to do with bubble nets. Geologists
are using advanced imaging techniques. They have discovered a previously
unknown layer of magma deep beneath an active volcano vulcan
volcanic region. This hidden reservoir wasn't detected before. It could
change how scientists eruptions, which is good. We're still waiting
for the the yellow Stone thing to kind of go. Goodoos.
Every time I get an invite to Montana, I go.
Maybe next time, beautiful place, I do too, Like God,
I need to be there during an eruption. The discovery
shows of volcanoes are far more complex than we once thought,
more like multi level systems with backup fuel tanks. It's
a reminder that even the ground under our feet still
whole major secrets. And I'm gonna tell you, Jeff, if
you could look directly below where you're sitting right now,
and you would freak you out if you saw the
caves and weird tunnels that are right below your feet.
If you get floor the ground, you would see tunnels.
You might see creepy things crawling through them. There could
be there could be things living in there. There could
be gosh, who knows what could be in there. There
could be Northern Pike.
Speaker 9: So when they could be you never know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, The next story has nothing to do
with magma nothing. Birds can see Earth's magnetic field. Now,
we all kind of knew this that they were directed,
you know, when they migrated, But apparently now they have
figured out they can actually see it. They can see
the magnetic fields. Scientists just confirm new details about how
migratory birds navigate. They can actually visually perceive Earth's magnetic
field using special protein in their eyes.
Speaker 9: I've been working on it. I've been practicing on weekends,
but I'm not quite there.
Speaker 4: Instead of just sensing direction like a compass, birds may
literally see patterns or a shading link to magnetic fields,
guiding them across thousands of miles. So it's basically a
built in GPS, but one that works through vision, not
instinct alone. Now, remember, folks, we don't know if any
of those crap's true. Do we know? We don't do
your own.
Speaker 9: We know birds migrate, No, I know.
Speaker 4: That, but I'm just saying everything in this whole show,
we don't know if it's true.
Speaker 9: We could be full of crap.
Speaker 4: It's literally for entertainment purposes. Yeah, exactly, this stuff isn't verified.
I'm just a meat puppet reading this stuff.
Speaker 9: It's conjecture, the hypoc Yeah.
Speaker 10: So it's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's based on who knows all right, Next, the
next story has nothing to do with birds, nothing at all,
nothing at all. Researchers working in and Arctic permafrost have
successful successfully revived ancient viruses that were frozen for tens
of thousands of years. These so called zombie viruses, and
I know we've talked about these before, were still infectious
at least to a single cell organism. Look after being thought, yeah,
they still would infect things. Ugh, it says. The concern
isn't that these exact viruses will infect humans, but the
climate change meltz permafrost, unknown ancient microbes could emerge naturally,
and it's like opening a biological time capsule and nobody
knows what's inside. And I'm sure that process has been
going on for eons and eons and eons.
Speaker 9: The Earth is always warming and cooling.
Speaker 4: That's all always doing that.
Speaker 9: Come on, where we sit right now is once worm
because right where you're sitting and right where I'm sitting
used to be a glacier. Yeah, mile thick ice right
right where we are.
Speaker 4: Right where we are, which is how they formed all
those creepy tunnels below your house, those big giant tunnels
waiting to cave in m sink Could you imagine? Have
you seen the sinkhole videos where people's floors have opened up?
That one guy right sucked his bed in one night?
Speaker 9: There was one in the Corvette Museum in Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all those corvettes. Just oh that was so weird.
The ground opened up and sucked a ton of corvettes
into a giant museum. Yeah, that's crazy. Did they ever retrieve.
Speaker 9: Those some of them? I think a lot of them
are just got destroyed, lost, no way, there's no way
to get them out. Some historical stuff was lost. Pretty sad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then what do we gott next? And the
next story doesn't have anything to do with zombie viruses.
Speaker 9: Nothing, nothing, or bubbles.
Speaker 4: Or bubbles or bird or birds or fake hearts. It
has to do with astronomers that are now seeing evidence
of the very possibly the very first stars ever formed
in the Verse, hidden inside distant gas clouds. These stars
could have existed just after the Big Big Bang, meaning
they were basically looking back to the birth of light itself.
It's no, it's like finding the universe's first spark plug.
Speaker 9: Spark plug pretty amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's amazing to you.
Speaker 9: It is. I love this stuff. This is our audience
loves it interesting. I just I just love general science.
I always have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun. But once again, we don't know if
any of this crap is true. We read yes, well, yeah,
we're not only sharing what we're we're trying to paraphrase
them shorten, so I don't boreo with a ten thousand ages.
Speaker 9: We fly, Yeah, weirdly and fast?
Speaker 4: Why we call it weird and fast? All right? The
next has nothing to do with stars at all, or
bubbles or birds or hearts a little creepy. It has
to do with animals that may hold the secret to
living hundreds of years just what we want to do.
Scientists studying ultra long lived animals like greenland jarks and
whales are uncovering genetic tricks that resist aging and disease.
Some species repair DNA better to avoid cancer maintain cellular
health for centuries that take away. Aging might be might
not be inevitable. It might be that it can be
biologically adjusted. And they are doing some amazing I just
read an article that I'm going to read to you
guys next about stem cell therapy on toughness to read. Yeah,
I think so. And there's nothing to do with stars, DNA, birds,
whale nets, or little creepy hearts.
Speaker 9: Do you know much about greenland sharks though, they're amazing?
Speaker 4: A lot about greenland sharks because you want to know why.
I know a lot about greenland sharks because it was
my crew that filmed the first greenland shark in a
freshwater river way in the central part, like right in
the middle of the United States North.
Speaker 9: Wow. I did not know that. That's a.
Speaker 4: Rip by a guy's wallleye dock.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're pretty amazing. Most of them are blind, I'm.
Speaker 4: Sure you because they get cataracts and gross.
Speaker 9: Incredible. Yeah, got to slowly tool around and yeah, with
a long time now.
Speaker 4: These things have been swimming there since like the America
was discovered.
Speaker 9: It's crazy, unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they don't really know. They think there could
be greenland sharks that are over two thousand years old.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, some scientists suspect. Incredible.
Speaker 4: Okay. Anyhow, the next article is about deafness reversed in
ninety percent of patients. That's pretty cool that if true.
In a breakthrough clinical trial, a gene therapy restored hearing
in about ninety percent of patients with inherited deafness. Instead
of hearing aids or implants, doctors delivered a corrected gene
directly into the year. The result, patients who never heard
sound suddenly could. Now that's not an improvement, that's a
full sensory restor.
Speaker 9: Yeah, my dad and I both have hearing losses. That
would be amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just just this kind of stuff with the
genes that I love it because it's not drugs. It's
using your own bodies healing power to correct things. It's
pretty cool, really cool.
Speaker 9: Time for your weird fact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that weird fact you're all excited about.
Speaker 9: I like playing the sumper. What can I say? Oh?
You do like that?
Speaker 4: Law? Right, let's do it.
Speaker 1: It's now time for untold Radio weird Fact of the week.
Speaker 9: That is kind of weird. All right, weird fact.
Speaker 4: Somebody said that Monster wast episode rock that was great work. Yeah.
People always go you never find anything, Well we.
Speaker 9: Did, Yeah, you did lots of cool stuff anyhow.
Speaker 4: Giant squid greenland sharks. Could you imagine though by Guy's
Walleye fishing dock that is fresh water, just fishing walls.
Speaker 9: I mean, sharks in fresh water alone is pretty rare.
A greenland shark is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but think about this thing was huge.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 4: It was like seventeen feet long or some damn thing
I can't remember.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're amazing, but it was kind of a historical first, Okay, purely.
Speaker 4: The weird fact is that there are more lakes hidden
under Antarctica than at all of North America. All that
is actually pretty amazing because we have some pretty big lakes.
I mean, if you empty lakes Superior, you'd have enough
what three inches of water over all of North America.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a lot of water.
Speaker 4: Which is insane, all right. Beneath miles of solid Antarctic ice,
scientists have discovered over four hundred liquid lakes, not frozen,
liquid lakes completely sealed off from the surf for millions
and millions of years. They are not frozen. They are
actually liquid water lakes kept from freezing by pressure in
geothermal heat from the earth below. What's truly wild is
that this stuff's under Jeff's house. Yeah. What's truly wild
is that these lakes may contain entire ecosystems that we
have known nothing about that have evolved in total isolation,
meaning lifeforms could exist down there that have never seen
sunlight ever, possibly unlike anything on Earth's surface. It's basically
a hidden alien world right here on our planet and
on Jeff's right below his house is studio. You keep
looking down. Could happen?
Speaker 9: Could happen?
Speaker 4: I just, oh my god, I just saw a movie
on Netflix called Libria about the Labria tar pits caving in.
It's a big sinkhole and that kind of swallows part
of la in there, and people fought you got to
leave your brain in the on the codok right, Yeah,
people fall through the hole and then land safely on
grass and then their sabertoothed tigers and giant uh you know,
giant condors and things that eat them, and I'm waiting.
I just I had to shut it off after a while. Yeah, yeah,
when the sabertooth attacks them or no, well, a dire
wolf attacked a kid. So if you want to it's
good special effects. I guess I think.
Speaker 9: Some clips.
Speaker 4: Uh did I even? Yeah? I did finish the lake thing,
but the four hundred Secret Lakes what's cool is they
could they can study either evolution or lack of evolution,
because these things all would have all separately because they're
they're they're not connected, so you would learn a lot.
There's no interconnection, but is maybe there is maybe, you
know what I mean? I was thinking this rock's gonna
have little tunnels through it to one.
Speaker 9: Well, at one point, I mean, Antarctica was way further north,
a long time ago.
Speaker 4: Way up, way up to a NOOKA Yes, was it really?
I'm glad, I'm glad it was. Oh, let's see here anyhow,
So let's do our clip pics. Yeah, and you see
we got old Dano in the back room and the
green you know, are you eating popcorn? Daniel?
Speaker 9: I don't think you can hear it?
Speaker 4: Like no, no, it's not no. And then what do
we got clips?
Speaker 9: Let's do it some clips, all right? Clip one?
Speaker 4: All right? No, nice freeze frame. Okay, before we get
into this clip once again, unverified crap. I have no
idea if this is true. It could be. I was
really interested, and I hope it's true. So let's play it.
Speaker 11: We now know the legendary cracking what real. It was
not a myth that is not fantasy. Scientists announced this
week they have found the fossils of a giant octopus
that would have been big enough to eat modern day
whales easily. It is possibly the biggest creature to ever
exist in the ocean. Okay, they are doing more research
on right now to try to determine exactly how big
this creature was, but absolutely montrosously huge. They found it
off the coast of Japan. And my question is, how
did our ancestors know about this? Okay, why did we
think for so long this is just some kind of
fantastical tail. Maybe they're seeing a giant squid one to
two thousand years ago. People were commonly reporting now that
right now they're saying that this fossil was like sixty
million years old or whatever.
Speaker 9: And maybe that one is.
Speaker 11: But how do we know it's not still down there
because our ancestors might have only been seeing them commonly
because they're using wooden ships that don't use motors or engines. Okay,
if you did not know it, octopus are extremely sensitive
to loud mechanical noises. In fact, they're so sensitive to
it that octopus have been found with having abrasions on
the inside of what their ear drums would be because
the noise is.
Speaker 4: So loud to them, it drives them away.
Speaker 11: So if there was something as big as a crack
and it would be even more sensitive to these noises,
that could drive it deep into the ocean. You guys
have heard me do the podcast about the blue fifty
two noise that we can hear in the ocean. That
the bank is a well, but no one has ever
photographed it or filmed it because it's so deep down
in there.
Speaker 9: What if it's this thing gets over that crowd enough?
Speaker 4: I love octopus with no friends. This is about octopus. Sorry,
she goes, I Live unverified Crap. Then you have come
to the you have come to the rockday because this
whole show is unverified crap. I think we gotta get
t shirts made. Radio am on a total load of
unverified crap.
Speaker 9: Tune in for unverified crap.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm gonna get to work on it.
Right after the show. You will buy next week you'll
be able to buy I Live for Unverified Crap T shirt.
Speaker 9: I'm making a note so I can remind you we.
Speaker 4: Got to send one to her. You gotta send one
to herry him. Whoever octopus with no friends is you
have a friend in us?
Speaker 9: All right, I'm making a note, unverified. We need to
change radio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to change the whole name of the
whole network. Pure.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ourst line for that shirt is I live for unverified
crap until Radio Am Jesus is fantastic. Yes, we are
gonna let you. We're going to keep our promise.
Speaker 9: Yep, it's not a contest.
Speaker 4: Not a contest your idea, don't sue us.
Speaker 9: No prices, No to a priceless.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, okay, clip two, clip too. There's probably
some more unverified stuff. No, we can't clip to that
sound is good. This is a synthetic species that was
created in a lab. All species created in a lab.
So this is the best unverified crap you're ever gonna hear.
Go ahead, So this is what all the fuss is about.
Speaker 8: This is the first synthetic species. And how long did
it take you to make this? Well, if you count
the total time from the conception, about.
Speaker 4: Fifteen years, and how many millions.
Speaker 12: About forty dollars over that entire time.
Speaker 4: Enough of that unverified crap. It's interesting, though, if it's
real yeah, I would imagine it probably is, but we
don't know. It's unverified, all right. Clip three. The sound
is not good, not good. Somebody sent me this. I
don't know it's you, Jeff or Adam or maybe somebody
did I care, somebody I knew anyhow. Cougars apparently they
said our officially back down Minnesota because they verified these
kittens that we've known for Minnesota. So now we have
Obviously you had to have a man cougar and I
got a woman cougar, and they made little baby cougars.
Speaker 9: Can't verify that, No, we can't.
Speaker 4: They could just be pets that are wayward. Whatever I've
seen two cougars in Minnesota is all I know. Lots
of reports, Yeah, yeah, there are lots of reports. So
it's uh, it's verified by me and Jeff, but that's it.
But our opinions are worthless, all right. Don't just don't
want to run into any mama cougars with their little
kiddies while you're walking your dog. Ah. Clip four. Sound
is good on this unverified crap. This is a I obviously,
But what's interesting this is the supposedly the biggest represents
the biggest mammal ever to rome the earth. It was
as tall as a three story building. Look at it,
Back it up a little bit and show the elephant
there next to it. This is called a parah Sarah
Sarah theo you want to take a stab at the Yeah,
really good job, Jeff, thanks for making Thanks for me.
Can we look bad?
Speaker 10: So?
Speaker 4: That was a massive hornless rhino the size of a
two story house. See I said three story, two story.
It weighed as much as five African elephants and spend
its day stripping entire entire trees. Bear just to keep going. There,
you go, say that word.
Speaker 9: Again, paraserathereum. Say it again, parasarathereum.
Speaker 4: Say it again, Say it really fast now and I'll
say shopper city ten times fast. No, do you remember that?
You remember that old one? Oh my god?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Then you gotta hold your tongue and say it shopper city.
Speaker 10: You remember that?
Speaker 4: Okay, don't don't try it people dangerous, don't do it
in front of your kids. Clip five, no sound, and Jeff,
you can read. I want you to read, all of you,
since you made me look bad, I'm a pair of
seraphthereum name. So now you got to read all of these.
Speaker 9: A murder of crows, these are so these are names
for groups of animals. A murder of crows, a parliament
of owls, something like that. A pot of dolphins, a
crash of rhinos, tower of giraffes, a coalition of cheetahs.
That's a good one too, A skulk of foxes, a
leader of puppies, a wattle of penguins. I can't read
the bottom of there. What the bottom say?
Speaker 4: Come on, Jeff, you can.
Speaker 9: Do well the time we go. A mob of kangaroos,
a basket of crocodiles, and a smack of jellyfish.
Speaker 4: Now, who'd have thought? Did you know any of those?
Speaker 9: I probably half of them?
Speaker 4: Half a smack of jellyfish?
Speaker 9: That one?
Speaker 4: Are you serious?
Speaker 9: A parliament of oowels. I kind of like that one
the best.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we knew the litter, we knew the
skulk of foxes. I did not know. I would have
thought they would have been a litter to a coalition
of cheetahs. A tower of girafts. That didn't make any sense,
David Birch says, A den of lawyers, as far would
say a leader.
Speaker 9: No, I think we got I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't even read it. All right, what's this, Jeff, come
up with a name? KAYU has challenged you. Look at
the screen.
Speaker 9: What is a stink of bigfoot?
Speaker 4: What's a collective of bigfoot? A steak, steak of bigfoot,
A stink of bigfoot that deserves a clap or a
fun a bigfoot, a funk of bigfoot, a step of bigfoots.
Come on, people by and chat, Come on, get in
on this, let's speak. Come on, people, get in on this.
What do you call a but what are we gonna
call a group? A collective of bigfoots? We need to
have your answers. No, David Birch, that's not appropriate. Come on,
a clan we've got let's see here we have a
tangle of hairy people. That's pretty damn Come on, people,
get creative. If we might send you one of those
unverified crap t shirts, if you come up with the
best name for a for a collection of bigfoots together,
a lump of bigfoots, unverified of bigfoots. Yeah, that's actually
not that's pretty.
Speaker 9: Creative, an unverified crap of.
Speaker 4: And unverified a bigfoot? Yeah, because the other not verified yet?
A clan o killing. Okay, Oh, there we go, just
big feet. That's not bad. A band of boogers. Oh
my god, that wins. A band of boogers. Jeff, you
don't you agree?
Speaker 9: I like that one.
Speaker 4: A band of boogers. Yes, that's close. U kyu you
were a second.
Speaker 9: Oh I like. I like a howl of bigfoot too.
That's pretty good. Oh, Carl had a good one incognito.
Speaker 4: Jeff, o's your unverified crap T shirt? Oh my god,
this show's going down the toilet.
Speaker 9: Not a contest a big foot?
Speaker 4: Okay, we still have one more. One more clip clip six?
This uh sound is good now just just go ahead
and play it.
Speaker 13: Eighteen seventy seven, Chief Age Huffer was hired to look
for giant birds called thunderbirds in Illinois.
Speaker 9: In July.
Speaker 13: He spotted large birds and recorded this video. He was
originally hired by CBS News to obtain footage of the
legendary creatures. This footage became so popular that was eventually
featured on an episode of Monster Quests. First centuries, indigenous
traditions across North America have told stories of massive birds
associated with storms, thunder, and the sky itself, but by
the nineteen seventies, some people began to believe that thunderbirds
might actually be out there and not just a myth.
Speaker 4: There you go. Now, a friend of mine, doctor Reddick
over at the Raptor Center, even thought he, I mean
he knows birds better than anybody. I mean he does Surgeriana.
I mean he's do with them all day, every day,
every day, and he could not identify that bird.
Speaker 9: That was a good episode. I remember that one.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well I remember because one of the inside
stories of the episode was we needed to have a kid,
young man fly through the area as heasy getting lifted
to reenact the thunderbird. And I just grabbed a broomstick
and put it through his his uh what do you
call it? Uh s tak top that he was wearing,
and just one guy in one hand to one guy
on the other hand, and we just looked at him
at work and I said, kick your feet, kick your
feet and straight. Oh that was a real expensive special
effects folk, folks. That was cost one broomstick. Anyhow, I
shouldn't given that secret away. Okay, what do we got,
I think we're done. Let's do Uh Is it fake
as funk?
Speaker 3: Is its fake as bunked. Have we been pumped?
Speaker 14: Is it bs fake?
Speaker 7: As?
Speaker 4: Have we Been pumped? That's my favorite. I like that,
it's my favorite. Okay, So the sound is good on
this next clip. I don't know if there's much sound
to hear, but it's apparently filmed over New York. So
is it ai? Is it real? Is it whatever?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 4: You decide and please vote in the chat. I want
to hear your opinions. Well, there's a helicopter, stay done,
there's the helicon, there's the object, supposedly keywords supposedly Jeff
allegedly Allegedly it'd be real.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 4: It's unverified crap.
Speaker 9: Just more unverified crap.
Speaker 4: It's more unverified crap. But I want it see your
opinions on it, because I really want to know where
people are at. Oh, let's see here. What are people saying?
Kiddy has ai? And you could be right? I just
I mean, that's obviously the thing most people are going
to go to now on UO footage, it's sad in
a lot of ways. Oh bigs, he just jined, she's
she's in trouble. She gets for demerits, for being late.
She said she lost track of time. We'll forgive you.
Speaker 9: We forget an unverified flying crap object.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all you missed is a bunch of unverified
crapnified crowd c I a uh studied these sounds supposedly,
and go ahead, and you can play the next one.
I don't know what do you see it there?
Speaker 9: The second one or the third one?
Speaker 4: Second?
Speaker 9: Okay, hold on a second, here we go. No sound
on this one.
Speaker 4: No, so what is this? This is the kind of
stuff I have seen stuff like this. That doesn't mean
this footage is real, but just hay on, there you go. Say,
you start seeing like multiple objects all moving. And I
remember a night back in literally in the sixties, probably
like nineteen sixty four. I was on the yard with
my cousins and we saw this going on up in
the sky. Was one of those really dark nights, no moon,
and we called, you know, my mom, my dad came out,
my uncle, my aunt came out. We're all watching this.
These things were just zigzagging all over. And that's before satellites, right, Yeah,
so who knows? I don't know, all right, what's the
next one? And next one is about sound? So I
don't know if you once again put your opinion in
the chat. I will review it. See here, somebody thinks
he's going we had a wedge with the three lights
flower one night. We were all sitting in the jacuzzi
and it was silent.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't even remember what this clip is. Go ahead
and play it. It's unverified, that's for sure.
Speaker 9: I can't verify this clip, he would exists.
Speaker 4: No, I can't this Okay does have something? Oh yeah,
I remember now. This is supposed to reset something. Don't
let me read about this. This is supposed to reprogram
your brain. Uh, forget about what you're thinking about meditation,
It says. Apparently the agency the investigating called the Gateway
experience and they used by how do you pronounce it?
I think binari beats and specific frequencies. You can play
it again to him, I saying to synchronize the brain's hemispheres.
The goal to reach deep, thatta and delta states same
level of consciousness linked in the ancient you know the ome.
You know that that is what Jeff does when you
get up in the morning, you just go home.
Speaker 9: I can't verify that until he looks in the mirror
and then he goes home.
Speaker 4: Okay, what we're talking about apparently is from this is
a just again, it's all unverified. What it says it
came from declassified documents that red light science fiction psychoacoustics.
It's called So there you go.
Speaker 9: What do you think. I think there's some truth to that.
Speaker 4: Freak could be that does kind of give me a
give me the willies.
Speaker 9: Yea, there's definitely something.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely reset.
Speaker 9: Jeff, not there yet. I can't verify.
Speaker 4: We'll play it about twenty times when you get home.
All right, that's it. That's all we got. We're going
to bring Daniel on.
Speaker 9: Daniel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Daniel, are you ready?
Speaker 9: He is ready?
Speaker 4: He stumbs up. Well, let's see what we say. Daniel
runs the it's called the Cryptid Podcast. Now the hell
he came up with that name name? Who never thought
that was available?
Speaker 9: Daniel?
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have jected that should not have been available
to you. This it's like, okay anyhow, but that's the
name of this podcast. It's a good podcast. But let's
go ahead and welcome Daniel Hamilton. He calls himself Dano.
Speaker 3: Apparently, No, you guys are like my bros. So you
guys can call me. You guys can call me Daniel.
Everybody can call me Daniel if you want to.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, where did you get that? Because you do
a thing in the mornings called coffee with dan O.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like mornings with dan O.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've had that nickname for, like, I don't know, almost
thirty years. So yeah.
Speaker 4: And by the way, you have to verify we did
wait two and a half hours for our food, didn't we? Uh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely we did.
Speaker 4: And that was and you picked that restaurant, didn't you, Dan.
Speaker 3: You gave me two choices. One, yeah, tavern grill or two.
Speaker 4: I don't give their names. Oh my god, don't.
Speaker 3: They don't know where they're at. So I didn't give
the name he uh, Jeff? Is it just Smeard? Does
Doug look a little taller today?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I am taller? Oh my god. Okay, all right,
So I'm gonna I'm just gonna tell everybody what I
originally said, and this is true. I'm gonna swear by it.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I I woke up two three days ago and I
did I do you just walk right? You walk, you
can get coffee. You wake up, you get coffee, and
you sit down. I swear to God the chair felt lower,
and then when I was walking, because it was double things,
the chair felt lower, and I felt like I was
seeing things from a little different perspective, like about two inches,
nothing dramatic, and I thought, am I hallucinating? Then I
went and sat in another chair, and that one seemed shorter,
and I went, Okay, what's going on here? Did I
slip into a new dimension while I slept? And I
told Daniel the course he's been teasing me ever since,
So now you can all get in on it and
tease me.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you sent me to text. I
literally I was taking a drink and I opened up
with your text and I saw you. I spit my
drink out. I was laughing so hard. My wife looked
at me. She's like, what is your problem? I go, Doug,
She's like, who I go?
Speaker 9: Check?
Speaker 3: He's a jokester right now?
Speaker 4: Oh it's bad, you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was good.
Speaker 10: It was good.
Speaker 3: Catch up with you yesterday?
Speaker 4: Man? Yeah, Jeff, can you turn his mic up a
little bitter?
Speaker 9: Sure?
Speaker 4: Maybe? Aim yours better? You're supposed to know how to
deal with your mic? There, Daniel?
Speaker 3: Is that better?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 4: It's directional and a condenser. Mic, you gotta be aimed
exactly at your damn lips.
Speaker 3: But but I I will say this though, yesterday at
lunch like it, it looked like he was taller than
what the chair should have been because his knees were up. True,
he goes, do my gleating? Look at my knees are
way up here? And I'm like, oh, yeah they are.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, KYU goes, we can't verify this.
Speaker 3: Oh I was there one hundred percent verification.
Speaker 4: Well, you know part of the chairs being lower is
that you're getting older, right, Yeah you do. I mean,
you know you get this se older, you get it's
a little more when you get up on of chairs.
And I talk to my old buddy, who I literally
remember distinctly going to his fiftieth birthday party, going, god, dang,
I don't ever want to be that old. And I
asked him yesterday how old he was and he said
he was eighty four, and I went, oh, what happened?
Speaker 9: Crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably know who I'm talking about, Daniel.
Speaker 3: Is it the person you called while?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, did he really say that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, Well, I will tell you the older I get.
I agree I look for a chair that I don't
have to sit further down in so it's easier to
get up. Yeah, and the porcelain god. I try to
find a higher porcelain god than these little ones that
make you feel like you're squatting in the field. I
can't do that good. That'll blow your knees out. Gentlemen,
you go down to do your business. Next thing you know,
you got nine one one. You're laying on the floor,
your knees are all blowed out, and you still haven't
clean yourself. That's kind of messed up.
Speaker 9: Can I predict the conversation would go with this direction?
Speaker 4: Well I didn't either, But here we are, Oh my god, okay,
but then you said, okay, I admitted what I said.
Speaker 3: Oh, i'll what I said.
Speaker 4: And it was talking about flights and whatever, and he goes,
he goes, you tell him I can't.
Speaker 3: Do it, instead of saying, I, you know, I don't.
I normally don't fly. And I said yeah. When I
went to the other one, I flowed.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't normally flow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't normally flow. And so like, oh, here
we go.
Speaker 4: I haven't like I'll live that one down either Nope.
See sche you don't say anything about me saying I
felt taller, and I won't say anything about you you flowing.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to I check, I'm going to my brother.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's talk. Let's talk crazy cryptid stuff. So you
got interested in this because you had some kind of
very strange experience when you were younger.
Speaker 9: Yeah, do you want to?
Speaker 4: I don't want to waste too much time on you,
because if we have so many other people we can
talk about Bud it affected your life. Can you condense
that story a bit?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean what got me interested in the whole
subject of cryptids was seeing the Patterson Giland film Oh
when I was about ten or eleven years old, and
I was super super, you know, fascinated with him because
I lived in the Pacific Northwest. I lived up in
Washington State, and I you know, if they got video
of it, I say, a clan, but I like flat rocks.
What was it a something of a boogers whatever? He said? Yeah, yeah,
bandon boogers. That's awesome. But anyway, so you know, I
I believe that they were definitely California, Northern California, quite
possibly organ but I didn't think that they were going
to be able to cross the Columbia River. This is
my thought process when I was like eleven years old,
ten eleven years old, that they wouldn't be able to
get across the Columbia River, so there's no way they
would be in in Washington State. Nineteen eighty four, that
all changed when my dad and I and my little brother,
we were coming home from Tacoma and we saw one.
We pulled off of the Bay Drive. My brother was
asleep in the back of the car. I was sitting
in the front passenger seat, and as we came off
the road, my dad his head lights they hit made
some eyeshine or something way up and I was like, Dad,
there's something up in the road. Turn your brides on.
Like no, no, no, they'll see us coming. They'll hear
us coming, you know, they they'll they'll get out of
the way. So the road kind of dipped off of
the main road and then it kind of leveled off
and then have like a small rise. It would come up,
then we go back down again. It did this a
couple of times before it hit We hit our property
and we went down down a little dip and they
came back up on the rise and uh, I still
saw the I go, Dad, it's still there, still there.
Turn your brides on and he's like, no, no, it'll it,
trust me, it'll it'll it'll be uh, you know, it'll move,
it'll hear us coming, it'll see us, it'll move. Go
back down this little dip, come back up this rise.
And my dad he hit, he hit the uh, hit
the brights. And he had installed some like aftermarket driving
lights that would He had him angled out as far
as he could so he could see both sides of
the road because in this area we had tons of wildlife, fox, coyotes, deer,
wild dogs, things like that. And uh, he hit those brights,
turned on those driving lights, and it lit the entire
area up in front of us. And there she was.
She just started standing up. I didn't think she was
gonna stop standing up. She turned her she turned to
look at us. You know, her whole body turned pretty much.
She put her hand up like this to block the light.
You could see the palms of her hand. Her skin
was black, her face was black, dark charcoal colored hair.
Saw her chest region. There was hair there, but not
a bunch of hair. There was more hair on her
like arms and shoulders and head than there was in
the chest and stomach area. Uh yeah, uh she if
I had to give you a description like size and
hythe wise and body type wise, she resembled Patty, but
not as robust. She but she wasn't skinny. She was
she was still but she wasn't as thick as Patty.
But she wasn't skinny. Probably seven seven and a half
feet tall, probably between five and six fifty five hundred
and six hundred and fifty pounds. At that second, I
was I had two emotions going on. I was absolutely excited,
but I was terrified. I went down into the floorboard
of the car. I looked up at my dad, thinking
my dad was going to speed off, but he didn't.
He kept the He kept the same constant speed, never
slowed up, never slowed down. And we turned into the
driveway shortly after that. But before we did that, I
figured we were still around the same spot, or we
had passed the same spot that she was standing in.
So when I looked up, I kind of peeked up
and looked out the passenger window, and I could see
her standing in the tree line. And that's what I
noticed that. What I mean, I had enough of a
light still that I could see that her eyes were black. Now,
the eyeshine that I saw was like a dark amberish
reddish color. To this day, I still don't know what
it is. I don't know if it's a reflection from
the lights. I don't know if they can self illuminate
their eyes. I don't know. I wish I had an answer.
I wish someone had an answer. I don't know. We
pulled into our driveway and as my dad was slowing down,
I jumped out of the car. I jumped out of
a movie car, jumped up into up on the porch,
and into the house. How would I describe the face? Okay,
so one, Yes, I did see the breast. Yes, they
did have a light like thin hair on it. Her face,
a nose similar to ours but on a bigger scale,
a full lower lip and a thinner upper lip. The eyebrow,
the you know, the pronounced eyebrow I read bridge route
or whatever you want to call it. It didn't look
like she had a conical head. I didn't see ears
because hair was coming down, but her face from like
her forehead, like right above her brow, all the way
down to like right in this part of her chin
was completely hairless. There was no hair at all the
brow ridge.
Speaker 9: That's it.
Speaker 3: So that's the best description I could give you of
her face. Now, as I jumped back up on the
like I said, jumped on the deck and then into
the camper, I heard my dad's car door shut, and
then my little brother. My dad was my little brother
up into the camper. We lived in the fifth wheell,
and we lived My brother and I slept on that
little loft area. So my dad puts my brother up there,
goes and takes his My dad comes back downstairs, goes
into the cupboards and the refrigerator, gets food, goes outside,
puts it on like a little table that we had
on our deck that he had built, goes around, gets
a ladder that brings it up. Now, my dad had
attached a long pole on the back left corner of
the deck because he's a birdwatcher, and he was gonna
put a bird feeder on the top of this pole
so he could definitely, you know, take pictures and notes
about the birds coming in. But he hadn't put the
birdhouse of the bird feeder up there yet. There was
just a basic wood platform that he had attached to it.
Somehow he put the ladder up, put all the food
up there. He had taken a rag out from underneath
the think and then he squeezed what I later found
out was grease into the rag, and he greased the
entire pole, gets off the ladder, of course, puts it up,
puts the ladder up, and he comes in the house
and I asked him, I go, Dad, why did you
what did you what did you just put on on
that pole? And he goes, oh, grease, And I go,
why did you do that? And he goes, oh, that's
to keep the animals away from the food. And when
he asked me that, when he when he told me that,
I go, oh, so you mean like raccoons, and he's like, yeah, yeah, raccoons.
And it made sense to me, Daniel, what was your
dad's opinion of Bigfoot? Before deciding I'll answer that one
after I tell you the story. So he goes outside,
he starts to smoke a cigarette. I'm kind of eavesdropping
what he's saying because I hear him say. I hear
him talking, and he says something to the effect of like,
you know, we know you saw us, you know, we
saw you. You know, don't hurt us. These are my boys.
That food is up there for you. Don't scare my boys.
We don't many dis you know that kind of things.
He comes back in and I asked him who he
was talking to, and he said, well, I I was.
I was praying, and I go, Dad, I didn't hear
you say amen? And he kind of chuckled and he
says amen. And then he asked me, goes, Bud, do
you want do you want to sleep with me? You know,
sleep with me? And I'm like, yes, I do. Now again,
I'm terrified. I'm excited. I didn't think that these things
are going to be in Washington State. Yes, that night
I found out that they were. So my dad had
one of those old alarm clocks that had like an
amber's glow behind the numbers, and the numbers were like
these white plastic like tiles, and they would flip every
time it changed the time, so you hear the little
flip and then it kind of gave an ambient color,
like an ambush color in the room. Go to bed,
and it was around one between one and one fifteen,
because I remember that specific time. One am something and
I hear this loud like creak, like something stepping up
onto the deck, something very heavy stepping onto the deck.
And I opened my eyes. I look at my dad
and he's kind of putting his fingers to his lip
to tell me to be quiet. And I try to
ask him, like how many, how many are there? And
he just put the number three up. I don't know
how he knew that specifically, but when he did that,
I kind of had my back resting against the wall,
and at that time I heard and felt something run
by really quick on that back side of the wall,
of the backside of the camper, and it sounded like
it went to the very end of the camper and
then turned and went around behind the camper. And then
I hear something climbing up onto the deck again. And
then I hear something else walking up onto the deck. Now,
if you guys have heard the sound of wood when
something extremely heavy is placed on top of it, you
hear the groans, the pops, the cracks, the creeks, and
that's what I was hearing. And then the next thing
I heard, and again this is a horrible rendition, but
I heard something like, oh yeah, like some vocalizations, but
much much scarier than that. And I know I just
started freaking out. I grabbed a hold of my dad.
I buried my face and his shoulder. He's trying to
hold onto me. He's reaching over here with his right hand.
He's trying to pull me close. He's trying to keep
you know, himself between me and the door. I know
I fell asleep. I know I cried myself to sleep,
because the next thing I remember, I was waking up
with some sunlight coming in through one of the window
on the door. Now, you couldn't see out the window.
The window was like opaque, so it was like you
could see light coming in and out, but you just
couldn't see what was inside or what was outside. I
get up, I open up the door, and I go
and I jump and climb up on the railing of
the deck and I look up and I don't see
any food up on this platform. I jump off and
I yelled to my dad, Dad, Dad, it's all gone.
It's all gone. They took it. They took it. It's
all gone. And he gets up and he comes out
and he's starting to look and he stands there and
he's looking. He doesn't see anything. And I'm over here
now looking at the pole, and I see where something
had grabbed this pole in multiple places, and then it
had taken its finger and dragged it all the way
down and then wiped all the grease off onto the railing.
I showed my dad that. My dad says, you know,
don't tell your brother. So fast forward to summer. It
was a Saturday when this happened. My dad was not
in a good mood because he had to go into
work on a Saturday to do inventory. He comes home
the whole day, me and my brother just goofing off.
We're listening to music, playing video games, eating food that
we shouldn't be eating in a place that we should
not be eating it, drinking my dad's pepsis. And he
comes home and I hear my dad do something that
I've I've only maybe heard him do three times in
my lifetime, and that slam his car door. And my
dad had a really nice Mustang, like a seventy one,
like Boss three to H two or something like that.
It was a super It had bloovers on the back window.
It was a nice, nice car. And he slammed the
heck out of that car door, and I hear him
and he yelled. He says my entire name. He gives
my first, middle, and last name, and I know I'm
in trouble for something. I'm trying to think what I
had done. And he comes up on the deck and
he's like, he's like, do you want to tell me
when the burn barrel is? And I'm like, I'm like you,
what are you talking about? He's like, seriously, where's the
burn barrel? I go, how do I know I didn't
burn any trash today, dad? Because back in those days
we are out in the area, in the rural area,
we didn't have trash service. We burned all of our trash.
And I go, Dad, I didn't have any I didn't
burn any trash. And he goes, well, what happened to
the burn barrel? What? Now? I'm starting to get agitated
with my dad. He's accused me of something I didn't do.
He's like, get out here right now. He grits his
teeth and uses his finger and says, get out here.
I go outside, go around. And the first thing I
asked my dad is I'm like, Dad, what happened to
the burn barrel?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 3: Where's the burn barrel. He's like, that's what I'm trying
to ask you. What did you do with it? I go,
I have no clue what you're talking about. And he's
like listen. I go, Dad, you listen to me. I
didn't do anything of that burn barrel. He's like, well,
just didn't work, you know, didn't get up and walk
away itself. I said, you know what, I bet you
one of those bigfoot took it. And he's like, shut up.
He goes, what would they do with the burn barrel?
And he goes go find it? I go where am
I supposed to look? He's like, I don't know. So
he goes one way looking for it, and I walk
into this area that after we had first moved in there.
I had seen something walk into the woods in this
area one night.
Speaker 4: Dan it was this a fifty five gallon drum. Yes,
burn barrel. So it was a full sized.
Speaker 3: One, yep. And my dad had put like two bags,
like two twenty pound bags of sand at the bottom
of it.
Speaker 4: So is it rusted? Is it painted? What's it look like?
Speaker 3: It was painted? It was painted blue?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: And uh it he put all the sand in there
so it wouldn't wouldn't blow over, right. So I go
into this area where I saw something walk into the woods,
you know, months earlier before we had our sighting, And
about thirty feet inside the woods, I find the burn
barrel and it looks like something had grabbed the bird
barrel and just threw it into the woods, like just
chucked it into the woods. And so I yelled my dad.
I'm like, Dad, I found it. I found it. And
he's like what. I go, what do you think you're
what are we looking for? You know? And now I'm
already I know I'm past the point in overturn. You know.
My mind, in my mind is telling me to shut
my mouth, and my pride is telling me keep going, man,
keep going, keep digging a hole for yourself. And my
dad comes running over. I go, I found what you're
looking for. He's like, Daniel, I'm not gonna tell you again,
and he goes, well, how did you get in here?
And I said, Dad, I already told you. I bet
you it's one of those big foots. And he's like,
shut up, don't say nothing to your brother. I don't
need your brother scared. He's gonna want to go move
back with your mom. Just you know, knock it off.
So we moved the burn barrel back and I go, Dad,
I'm telling you, I'm telling you it's one of those
dang bigfoots. I bet you was the one we saw.
And he goes, don't tell your brother. And about that time,
my little brother comes walking around from to the front
of the camper and he's like, tell me what And
before my dad could say anything, I said, Bobby, a
bigfoot through the burn barrel in the woods. My Dad's
smack me upside the head, and my brother just very
plain as day, goes, well, I don't think it was
one of the little ones that I've seen. And we're
both like, whoa, whoa, what do you talk to? What
do you mean little ones that you've seen. He's like, oh, yeah,
I see two small ones. I see him all the time.
Like what do you mean you see them all the time?
He goes, well, not like every day, but when we
play music or we cook out, I see him. They
walk along this part of the of the woods and
then they go and they sit. They sit over in
this little area and I go. My Dad's like, well,
what do you mean. So he's like, come, I'll show
you so we both follow him over. He walks right
to this area. You could see where something has continuously
sat there or laid there, because everything is just maded
down like it is flat as flat can be. And
he goes, yeah, I've thrown a bunch of tennis balls
and baseballs out here, but I never find him. They
never give them back to me, They just keep them.
And there's been times where my brother said, you know,
he would go out to the treehouse that we built. Well,
it was just inside the woods, maybe fifty yards inside
the woods, and he said one time he was walking
in he saw one jump out of the out of
the treehouse, and he said, the way that it landed,
it didn't like stick the landing then get up a
takeoff running. It just came down and like it was
run like kind of like on the zip line, and
it just hit the ground at a dead run and
just took off, just took off. He said, it was
gone so quick. He goes, I hardly even saw which
way it went. It was gone that quick. And there
have been times where we were both in the treehouse
and then you just get this really eerie, eerie feeling,
and I remember looking out the window or a treehouse just
in time to see something like this, and then moved
his head back, and then he look over on this
side of the tree and move his head back when
he realized I was focused in on where he was at,
and I called that when the peak. Later on the
following October, we actually had to leave that property. My
dad was involved in that car accident. We moved back
to Tacoma to live with my aunt so my dad
could recuperate and heal. I mean, my dad was almost
killed in the car accident, and so he lost the property.
He couldn't work, and so he sold the camper, lost
the property. The new owners wanted the camper off. We
were going out there to clean it up, me, my dad,
my aunt, and my dad, I, me and my brother
and all four of us were out there. Everybody was
else was cleaning out the camper. I had already taken
everything I wanted when my aunt came and picked us
up the day of the accident, and I noticed that
it looked like something was trying to look in all
of the all of the windows, even the tall ones
up where the the loft was. And I firmly believe
that what we had there was a family unit.
Speaker 4: I'm a band of burgers.
Speaker 3: A band of burgers. I think there's a band of
boogers on there. But I don't think they were like
living on the five acres of land we were. I
think they were just in that area. And I've looked,
I've Google mapped it, and uh, it looks nothing like
a lot of the woods are gone, almost as thick
as the woods were. They're they're hearty there. Now, when
we lived there, there was only two other houses, and
you had to do some really if you took the roads,
it took you about ten minutes to get to each house.
But if you cut through the woods, you get there
a little faster. But again, you know what type of trees.
These were pines and then other native trees of Washington State.
There was a creek and a pond out in the woods.
Plenty of plenty, plenty of of animals, deer, fox, kyoe, porcupines.
Uh So there was plenty. And plus you know there
was people that uh raised rabbits. There's people out there
that had small little gardens. So I'm sure there was.
You know, there's more enough. And that was just on
our five acres of lamb that had you know, that's
that little like creek and that pond. And it was
in Graham, Washington, so it was in Pierce County.
Speaker 4: So did this, all of this stuff affect your career choice?
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna be honest, No, it really didn't. You
know what I did is, you know, I tried to
talk to people about it, and I would get laughed at,
you know, oh, you're just seeing things, You're you know,
you're you're so little liar. And and a lot of
these people that I was talking to were family members,
you know, and so I just kind of kept it
repressed way way down and just didn't really talk about it.
Every time that i'd see something come up, you know,
I would mention it and no one would really listen.
And then, you know, I joined the Air Force, served,
you know, did my four years, almost five years, got out,
and the Internet just started to come around, you know,
AOL dial up, all that type of stuff, and I
never really thought about looking for anything there. But then
when Facebook came around, YouTube and stuff like that, now
everybody's able to post things and stories that I found
forums and things like that, I really really started getting
interested into it again. And then you know, realizing that,
you know, that wasn't the only time I had ever
seen one, and it definitely wasn't the only time I've
had an encounter with one. So yeah, and then it
was just me wanting to kind of validate what I
had seen. What I had heard is why I started
a podcast, and you know, I wanted I wanted everybody
to kind of.
Speaker 4: Because you're podcast all verified.
Speaker 3: The last I looked, it's verified, you know. I uh,
I think as much as I could verify it, you know. Uh,
but uh, yeah, you know, I just want to give
people a platform that have, you know, to come out
here and and just tell people, you know, hey, this
is a safe place for you guys to come and
hang out tell your stories. We have a great group
of moderators in my chan, my live chats, and yeah,
it's just, you know, I just want people to know,
you know, I've been there. I've felt that fear, but
I've also felt that excitement. Yeah, and uh, you know,
it's just I want, uh, you know, I want you
guys to know that it's okay, you're not crazy, You're
not alone. That people have had encounters like this, some
more scarier, you know, and some not. So I've had
only one aggressive encounter. I never saw it, I heard
it it let us know that it was there. My
brother saw it. But everything else has been very very
passive that I've absolutely knew one hundred percent that it
was a bigfoot. Now I had two prior ones that
one was passive. The other one is is it's actually
very aggressive. But I thought they were bears because I
never saw anything, you know, I mean, but if you
take all the puzzle pieces from that camping trip and
put them together, what else could it be?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that's a lot of quite a
few things in one spot. As a how old were
you during all that?
Speaker 3: Again, it would be my first sighting, Well just from
that whole period, Well, the first things I believe that
I had encounters started like nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine,
so I was about out six or seven. And then
the last time I had any type of an encounter,
I guess you would say is I was fifty fifty three.
Oh okay, last one was in Michigan.
Speaker 4: Very interesting, Okay, so what happened? Now? You get a
lot of obviously cryptid reports, I would imagine on a
pretty regular basis kind of what's the trend right now
and what's the hottest location for people seeing some kind
of utoplaced animals.
Speaker 3: There are two really huge things going on right now
within the last I want to say, probably last sixty
to seventy five days. First, you know, you hear about
what's going on in northeast Ohio. There's a flap that
hit that area. I think there was a nine sidings
by ten people. And then just north of it up
in Ontario, Canada. From April fourth to April twenty fourth,
so in about a twenty day period there was I
think sixteen to eighteen reported sightings of bigfoot.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: And just recently, I want to say, in the last
maybe five days, there was one in Kansas.
Speaker 4: I didn't hear about the Kansas. That's Kansas. Kansas is
not the first place you think of, Nope, when you
think of big foot sightings. But yes, but if they're
going to go north and south, you're going to have
to go through Kansas.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 4: So it doesn't it doesn't really shock me. And yeah,
Jeremiah was covering that Ohio absolutely, and of course once
again it's all unverified.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, uh, Jeremiah he he messaged me. He's like, man,
you're not gonna believe what's going on. Man, You're not
gonna be just going on and goes stay tuned. I'm like, okay,
so you know, I you know, got back to But
do I think they migrate? Absolutely? I think they migrate.
Excuse me, Yeah, I absolutely believe.
Speaker 4: Well, they'd have to dan because if you need to eat,
you're gonna have to move. Yeah, I mean, it's just
unless you're just gonna go after deer and deer and
dear nothing else.
Speaker 3: But you know, also, when the Ohio flap happened, it
all kicked off like right after I guess a meteor
strike hit Ohio, and you know, you have everybody jumping
on board on that. You know. I've heard a lot
of people, oh, you know the meteor it caused them
to do something different than they normally do. And I'm like,
do you guys realize how many meteors hit the Earth
every single day and you don't even know about it.
If that was the case, then this whole If if
every cryptid in the world was going to be what
was was going to be affected by a meteor strike,
then oh my gosh, we'd see him walking down Rodale
Drive and Wall Street and everything else.
Speaker 4: True. So I know this is kind of a loaded question.
What is the the most chilling cryptid encounter that you've
ever heard or featured on your show?
Speaker 3: Oh, Man, Doug, I've had so many. Oh uh see,
we just had Joe bargeron. He had a dog man
encounter in the Maniste National Forest where he actually shot
one and killed it. He was a long hauler drove
you know, over the road for the week, and he
had just picked up a load and he was going
through the Maniste National Forest and he was getting some
really weird readings on his air pressure. So he decided
to pull over and got out of his truck and
found that there was an air leak on one of
his airlines for his air brakes. And he didn't really
want to sit around and wait for service to come
out there and fix it. He already had, you know.
He says, he carries the essentials on his truck to
make repairs like that where they'll hold enough until he
can get it into a shop and get it professionally repaired.
So he fixes his truck and then he gets back in,
starts it up and starts taking off, and here's his noise,
and he's not sure what it is. And he looks
over out the passenger side window and looks at the
mirror and sees this thing running alongside of his truck.
And he's going up like a gradual incline. So he
can't just and if anybody's ever been in a rig
or have driven a rig, you know you just can't
go from zero to sixty like that. It's gonna take
some time to get that truck and go through those
gears to get it up to the speech you need to,
he says. By that time, he goes and he looks
and he sees this thing now staring at him through
his passenger window. He sits about ten or about nine
to ten feet up up in his cab, in this truck,
and this thing was like looking in on him, and
he said, I believe he said it was trying to
open up his door, his passenger door, and he had
a firearm, and he pulled out his firearm and shot it,
shot at it twice. He knows he hit it once.
He believes he hit it in the eye. And he
looked out out the mirror as it had dropped and rolled.
He kept going, went to turn around. So he turned around,
came back, and by the time he got back the
the dog Man was nowhere to be seen. You could
definitely see where there was. There was a ton of
blood on the ground. But there were also two people
in a black vehicle that he believes was like a Jeep,
Grand Cherokee or something. They were both wearing like khaki
cargo pants and like a polo shirt. And when he
slowed down his truck to ask if they needed help,
he's like, hey, you know what happened here? Do you
need help? Second they're like, oh no, no, you know,
we don't need help. We were just watching two bears
fight and then they ran off. Well, yeah, I don't
believe that. And you know, a little while after that happened,
he gets a knock on the door and he answers
and the people go, you know, they talk to him,
they identify themselves and they let him know that he
had taken out one of their assets and he's not
to say anything. He's not to you know, talk about it.
It never happened. And even one time he said that
they even locked his checking his bank account just to
prove that they could do what they wanted to do
and there was nothing that they could do about it.
Speaker 4: Interesting. So when you hear something like that that sounds
pretty fantastic, do you have a skeptical side to you
that goes it's unverified? Do you think or do you
judge him by his sincerity? What do you what do
you do well at that point when you have somebody
on that's I mean, that's a fantastic story.
Speaker 3: It's an absolutely amazing So and by the way, I
sent him a text message and asked him if he'd
be available to come on your show. By the way,
so oh yeah, but you know, I think I think
with my background being in the military, working in the
Department of Corrections, you know, that gives me an edge,
not a big one, but an edge over most people
that deal with interviewing people on a daily basis because
I learned how to read people's body language. I learned
how to read their facial expressions. You can definitely tell something,
you know, by the tone of their voice, if it
raises or lowers. You know, you kind of pick up
on little things. I don't have any I don't have
any reason not to believe him at all. And That's
the way I look at it. When most people, you know,
pretty much all people come on my show, because you know,
how can you, with all one certainty check out their
entire story? You really can't do. Some people embellish their
stories a little bit. I think everybody embellish is a
story of time or two.
Speaker 4: Right, And it's not it's not our job too. It's
really not our uh doubt or do anything. It's our
doubt to get the information from.
Speaker 3: Them, right from you know, their story, right A hundred.
That's funny. Yeah, I heard him smash it. I heard
him smash it on his h on his keyboard. That's fantastic,
you know.
Speaker 4: That's design, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to give everybody, you know, the benefit of
the doubt, you know. And you know, has it come
back to.
Speaker 4: Burn me yet?
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what a time or two. But you know,
I just kind of roll with the punches and keep
on going.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but you know, and I've had people call
me after a show and they go, well, how do
you you know, how do you buying into this and
that and portals or whatever. It's like, hey, that's not
my job, right jobsted let them tell their story. Yep,
it's your job if you believe them not believe them.
It's not my job as all. I've listened to other
podcasts where the host is judgy. It's really awkward, and
then it's really uncomfortable for the host to be judgy.
Speaker 3: Now there's times where I'll ask pretty hard questions, you know,
And it's not that I'm trying to disprove them or
make them feel bad or anything like that, because I'm
trying to ask the questions that I know are going
to come, that I know are going to come, you know,
and so like, you know, well, how do you know this?
Or how do you know that? Or you know what
what how did you come to that conclusion or you
know that. That's that's what I try to do. And
again it's not me trying to disprove them or discredit them.
It's just and I tell them, I says, you know,
I'm gonna ask some questions that I think people are
going to want to ask, that are going to want
to know the answers to I said, this isn't coming
for me, you know, these are just questions that are
coming in my mind that I think you might see
if you look at the chat, so you know, and
then I just you know it kind of I guess
takes the air of some people's sales if they want
to get into the chat and start trying to ridicule
person or or start trashing them, because that's the last
thing I want to happen in any of my chats.
Has happened well.
Speaker 4: Even okay, so a few things. So even if a
guest turns off your audience, that doesn't mean the next
the next guest is going to turn you off.
Speaker 3: That's correct.
Speaker 4: I don't go, oh, I'm only going to get woo people. Oh,
I'm only going to get flesh and blood people. I'm
only going to get this. I don't judge, because that
would what do I think I'm smarter than them? Or
who am I to poo poo their experience?
Speaker 3: Exactly, it's not my job.
Speaker 4: It's really not. Our job is just to bring stories
to you. That definitely is for sure the audience's job.
Jeremiah said, ah.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I love Jeremiah, and I actually Roger's in
the house, so that's awesome too. But yeah, you know,
it's funny. It's like, you know, I'll talk about my
military service and people.
Speaker 4: But I hold on, hold on one second, Jeff, if
you put your email address, if any of you guys
that are that have a mic handy and you have
your setup, if Jeff put your email address up and
we'll you know, you can just say, yeah, we'll send
you a joint link Jeremiah Roger whoever, because we want
to talk about Yeah, And there's a lot of weird
things happening, especially now because people are less afraid to
report it.
Speaker 3: And you know, I had that exact conversation with somebody
and they asked me, you know, why do I think
why why do I think that more reports are coming out?
Do you think it's they're people trying to jump on
the bandwagon to make themselves give them fifteen minutes of fame?
Or is it like you just said there, Because it's
now so mainstream that that people are beginning are getting
less and less afraid to come out with their encounters,
you know. And one thing that I have noticed, I'm
seeing a lot of people that are around my age
are a little older than me, you know, I'll say
between fifty and eighty that are coming out with stories
that have that had them way back in the seventies
or way back in the eighties, you know, and you
know they've held on to him their whole life, and
now they're seeing these things. You know, the grandkids are
showing them how to mess around on YouTube, and they find,
you know, all of a sudden, they find your show,
or they find my show, or they find you know,
you know, any of the dozens of other shows out there,
you know that talk about these things, and they may
catch them an interview or a picture being shown during
an interview of what they saw or renditional what they saw.
They're like, oh my gosh, that's what I saw. And
now they're at more app to come out here and say, yes,
I had this encounter, it was this time, this is
when it happened. I was this old and I have
not been able to talk about this for fifty years,
you know.
Speaker 4: So did the gentleman ever tell you back to that
story what he meant by or what those people meant
by you killed one of our assents. What would you
possibly use a dog man for?
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think? I don't know what
you're in my opinion, I think that it's it's well
right there, I am the key. I'm VICKI I think
that's what that's clever. They use dog manicuelle people. They
use dog Man as a weapon. Absolutely, they weaponize it.
That's what I think. And again, but here here's my thing,
you guys, I.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I want to qualify what he says.
He thinks doesn't mean he believes it.
Speaker 9: Itied crap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unverified crap.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of unverified crap.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know, I'm on the team of
flesh and blood because everything I've encountered was flesh and blood.
Very credible people that I know have seen things come
out of portals or you know, they've you know, teleported
or or what not. I'm not saying that it's not possible.
I just haven't seen it. And when someone comes to
me with a story like that, I'm not going to
try to disprove them. It's just one more story to
add to the dozens of other stories that I've heard
that just gives it that much more substance of being true.
Speaker 4: You know, this is a kind of an interesting theory too,
that they use them to chase people away from certain areas.
Speaker 3: Because a lot of times.
Speaker 4: There you go, thank you, you.
Speaker 3: Know, but It's like you'll hear a lot of stories
of people out in the middle of nowhere, like legit,
there are like a super long, you know, back mountain,
backcountry hike with a group of friends and all of
a sudden they're here steel door slam shut, or they're
hearing metal grinding on something and they're like, what is
that noise? I don't know? And I've had people, you know,
tell me they've heard that noise, and my question is, well,
what do you think it is? You're like, well, I
don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people do here like doors slamming, yep,
in the middle of the woods, which is completely unverified.
It could be crap, but it could be true. No.
I mean, I'm Joe, you can't remember. I've been joking
around a lot just because I'm in that kind of
I'm in that tall mood today.
Speaker 3: If you fill a couple of inches taller just make.
Speaker 4: And then you have the zippers all these weird, metallic
y strange sounds. But you know what's cool is when
it does get verified by another witness.
Speaker 3: YEP, like they didn't know that.
Speaker 4: This guy heard zah blah blah, and then Adam, he
never heard of was such a thing called a zipper sound.
But his wife was camped out with him one night
on his thirty day quest and Adam hears a zipper
sound outside the tent. But he's like but he asked
his wife, did you on zip your sleeping bag? And
she's like no, And he hears the sleeping bag on
zipping or something similar to a zip you know ye.
And then we were up at sell Grove and Adam
comes in one day early morning, was like five in
the morning, and he comes in and he goes, I
just turned the zip zip zip, zip zip sound outside
and then he he thought, well, I'm gonna talk to
the zip sound. And then all of a sudden he
hears zip zip. There's really a low one and then
the little one quit yep.
Speaker 3: And here's my thing. I think they're mimics. I think
it's a sasquatch. They've been known to mimic sounds and voices.
I mean, how many stories have you heard, and I'm
talking even to the chat you guys. How many times
you guys heard a story where Joe Schmoe was on
the back deck and joined a cup of coffee and
all of a sudden he hears his name being called
from the woods. That sounds like his wife, and he
knows darn good well his wife just got into the shower,
yet he's hearing her voice call his name out in
the woods. It happens all the time, you know. Or
you'll hear like a mom out in the backyard working
in her garden, and she'll hear her kids laughing, and
her kids are either in the house, or they're over
grandma and Grandpa's house, or they're over with their dad,
if she's a single mom. You know. So I mean,
think about it, you know, could it have been, like
like you said, could Adam and maybe heard something mimicking
that zipper sound?
Speaker 4: Sure? Yeah, absolutely. But Managa Hala believes, and he's another
sound expert, that that sound is their word for human
because he's heard it too many times in the company
of people or near people, and he kind of you know,
once again, it's an unverified theory. Go ahead, Jeff, it's
a it's unverified, but it makes sense. You know, it's unverified,
but it makes sense. So there you go.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna keep that one handy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Somebody David Birch said, hear my
wife calling to me creepy style from out of the woods.
I'm leaving smoke Scooby Doo style. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3: That is hilarious.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of hunters that I don't know
if you've ever heard about this, Daniel, but hunters here
like a little child calling them for help, yep. And
that is the creepiest thing. And I've heard this personally
from three hunters going I'm out on the woods and
I'm hearing what sounds like a little child calling me
for help. And I started walking towards it, and then
I hit him, this could be a trap of some sort.
Speaker 3: Have you heard of the East Texas gollum? Have you
heard that story?
Speaker 4: Yes, I've heard of Yeah, I've heard these terms.
Speaker 3: Oh go ahead where Okay, So this guy uh got
a hunting lease with somebodies of his yes, William, you
can you know? And he wanted to kind of up
his hunting game because they were out there hunting wild,
wild pigs. Right, So he goes and spends like three
to six thousand or five to six thousand dollars for
a new thermal scope to put on his rifle. And
so he decides he wants to go out one night
and test it out. So he goes out to their
hunt and least he sets up on this tree and
he's there for about an hour, right yeah, and nothing
nothing at all around, piney woods and brush and all
that type of stuff. So he gets up. He's like, hey,
I might as well move over here. Maybe I'll get
a different angle and sees things I'm not really sure.
So he goes and moves about one hundred and fifty
yards away, and he sets up on this tree and
he is sitting there waiting. He's looking through his scope.
All of a sudden he sees something moving through like
the piney woods. He's like, what is that? So he's
looking through a thermal and he says, what is that?
He said, it looks like a person. He first he
thought it might have been a bear, but then a
way it moved. He goes, that's a person. And it
was kind of moving on all you known hands and feet. Well,
it goes to the tree that he was sitting up
at before, and he said, this thing was fixated on
the tree, like it was sniffing and sniffings where he was.
His back was up against the tree, sniffing the bark,
he said, All a sudden, the thing squats and puts
his hands behind its legs as it's squatting down, and
it starts sniffing the air, and it looks around. All
of a sudden, it lifts its head up and he hears,
help help me, I need help, And he's like, what
the heck is going on? He says, what he heard
was a woman's voice. So he's still looking to this thing,
and then he hears again, help help me.
Speaker 4: I'm hurt.
Speaker 3: Can someone help me? And he said, it started looking
around and it kind of looked at him in his direction,
so he took a shot at it over its head
because he still wasn't sure if this is a person,
and this thing didn't even move, so then he takes
another shot at it, and that's when it took off,
and it took off in the opposite direction that it came,
which just so happened to be the opposite direction where
his truck was. So he grabbed his stuff and ran
his truck and got out of there. But I mean, again,
you hear people saying, well, I heard someone saying, Oh,
what I heard was yelling mommy, or was crying for
mom or mommy, you know, and then you have people
that are saying you know that you know, uh, big
cats make certain noises. I mean from being from the
Pacific Northwest, I mean I've heard cougars and mountain lions
and kits and things like that, their cubs, you know,
I've never heard them make noises like children laughing.
Speaker 4: Well not talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but I.
Speaker 4: Mean Roger's surprise, guest.
Speaker 3: Who do we got here? What's up? Brother?
Speaker 7: Up?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 9: What's up?
Speaker 4: Man? Uh? By the way, uh, we have named and
you'll be proud of us. We have named a group
of Sasquatches a band of boogers, so you would be
very proud of us.
Speaker 10: Roger, Yes, sir, I didn't know they were boogers until
about six years ago. I mean, nobody talks about it
around here. So when I started meeting some of the
southern people, uh, they were talking about boogers, and I'm like, well, okay, this,
I guess we can call them that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh. I think it's a great name. But really,
nobody has ever named We were naming all these different like, uh,
what a tall of drafts?
Speaker 3: What are some wattle of penguins?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's all these interesting names, but no one ever
has named a group of bigfoots.
Speaker 3: So flat well, Flathead did a band of.
Speaker 4: Boogers, So that's the official term.
Speaker 10: Now I'm gonna get that tattoo up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well see, I remember my nanny, my great grandma, talking
about boogers always when I was a little kid living
in West Virginia. Man, my great grandmother, if me and
my cousins were out getting stupid, you know, acting like
a bunch of crazy fools, she'd like, you, boys, you
better not go off them boys and get stupid, because
them boogers they'll get you and we'll never see you
guys again. Oh damn.
Speaker 10: Now, I remember the older folks talking about the boogers
getting you, but I just assumed it's the boogieman or
you know, goat or just trying to scare us or whatever.
But after I heard the term and started talking to
people like, wait a minute, you know, maybe, and the
more reports I get from this area from back in
the sixties and seventies, well maybe they did mean that.
Speaker 15: Oh absolutely, Okay, I gotta get this thing on track here,
less unverified crops.
Speaker 3: Do you guys?
Speaker 4: Do you guys both kind of lean towards the paranormal
camp when it comes to all of these weird cryptids
like the gollum, the the rake, these winged humanoids and
things like that, or do you put all of them
in that camp or do you put none of them
in that camp?
Speaker 3: Well, the pell crawlers, the rakes, whatever you want to
call them, even the even the the East East Texas Gollum.
I think those are all one and the same thing. Yeah,
I don't know about a paranormal side of them because
what I saw when I was seventeen was flesh and blood. Yeah,
you know, and I can't say that that it was one. Uh,
if there's paranormal activity because what I heard and what
I saw, I don't know. See Mixy is saying, you know, demons,
there is there is that possibilities. Some people think that
they're demons. And again, you guys, when it comes to
the realm of cryptis whether you considered it encrypted or
not encryptied. I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong.
I'm just gonna say I haven't yet encountered it yet.
So that's why I'm leaning towards what I lean towards
until I see it myself.
Speaker 4: I gotcha. Okay, so you don't lean that way the
pure normal. What do you roger.
Speaker 10: The true answers? I don't know. I'm like Daniel. Unless
I see something, I'll listen to somebody's story. And if
I hear ten stories and these things, I have a description,
and maybe you can go look, you know, two thousand
years ago and see what something similar was called. You
just think about the first person to ever see an airplane.
I've talked to people that saw, you know, they didn't
know what it was, and they thought it was some
type of monsters. So I think the best thing to
do is just go back my personal thoughts on some
of this, though I never really thought about it until
the past six years. It may be something biblical, It
maybe something because I've taken reports from this county of
a winged creature that landed on an airport fence and
the fence is still bent. I went, I drove by
there as close to my son's house, and I believe
this guy. I mean, he's my son's age and he's
not into all this subject these subjects we're talking about.
And he came clean one night and he said, I
need to talk to you, but you're gonna think I'm crazy,
so but really I don't. I don't know. That's one
thing I'm trying to figure out. I really don't want
to see anything like that. You know. We saw some
strange lights last night and in the woods.
Speaker 4: It's last night.
Speaker 10: Last night, my son and I about fifteen foot behind
the ceater up off the around this look a camera
flash And I said, I just got a flash over here,
and we've seen orders there before. And then he saw
it two more times, but it was navigating through the woods.
I have no idea what that was.
Speaker 9: Could it?
Speaker 10: Could it be something strange like we talk about. I
have no explanation. So that's that's the way I am
with this other stuff. I had a lady asked me
in the interview one time about the same question about
the tie between aliens and bfoot whatever, and I have
had no answer. But I said, ma'am, if I if
I see a big footstep out of the UFO, you'll
be the first I'll call per first person. So it it.
You have to experience some of these things too. You
can have opinions. But like Daniel when he when he
saw what he saw, then I'll sit here and like, Daniel,
are you sure it was what you saw or was
it something representing something else? That's always a possibility too.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 10: I've seen things that I can't explain, and it just
the way we said all the time. It just it
brings more questions to the table than anything. But at
least we're at least we're exploring that, you know, maybe
we will find a nature.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So these orbs you saw last snake, were
they just flashing or were they like constant on?
Speaker 10: Ever, it looked like you were up in a tree
fifteen foot and you know those old flash cameras I'm
sure you used or invented. Uh No, it was it
lit up behind the cedar and I could tell. That's
how I knew it was behind it. But it was
about fifteen foot up and we were looking for uh
it was twenty yards to the edge of the woods,
so it was another another fifteen feet inside. Maybe is
this verified? I don't have it on. I don't know.
I've missed the conversation.
Speaker 3: You better, you better thrown up there you go unverified crap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're home of unverified crap right there.
Speaker 10: And that's the thing when you when you experience these things.
It's so hard to catch, you know. We we caught
that amazing orb on thermal, but that was by accident,
you know. I wasn't setting up trying to get an orb.
It just happened, and I feel fortunate that it happened.
But yeah, most of this stuff is unverified, and it's
always gonna be unverified. Because I was standing behind Gary
Spike a few weeks ago when we had a tree
picker peek out in the daylight. Yeah, and he hit
the button that I saw him hit it.
Speaker 3: It was perfect timing.
Speaker 10: Now we've got this picture that only two peemple on
the planet know that it moved and peaked out twice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can see you can see the thing, I mean,
the creature and the thing I mean, you see they
ad and you guys claim that it was that was
all gone, and Adam even set up cameras there.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and so people that don't know all we could do. Uh.
I went straight to it and we found we found
impressions at luck footprints. We had a master tracker I
call him, but he came in and we followed and
the sound I heard, the way it went. We we
found disturbances and it was about four or four and
a half feet up the hill between footsteps. So, uh,
even though we know the pictures in the video is
not going to prove anything but for our own benefit,
and so we could go back and tell people this
is what we did after, this is what we found.
And you know, it doesn't mean anything as far as
identifying what it was. But I've never I've never seen
any of that lot. It actually peaked out and did take.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a there's a bunch of theories on these orbs.
Do you think they're a sentient, like like they're a
living some kind of strange, living biological creature that LAIDs
up per Do you think they're like from another planet
or do you think they're just part of the forests
that we don't understand.
Speaker 10: Well, I've had people tell me what they've been told
and have been passed down through families. But here's what
I tell you. When I was looking through that it
was a really expensive, really good thermal and I call
them probably the wrong thing. They was a thermal, but
it looked like through the eyepiece it was it was
like four K ultra clear like a video game and
this thing was perfectly round, and it had a membrane
that was visible. It had a nucleus and it will
see through. And it was pulsating slowly so and it moved,
and it moved like something alive. So whatever you take
from that, I can't tell you what it was. But
here's the thing though, I sent that to a lot
of people and nobody can tell.
Speaker 9: Me what it was.
Speaker 3: I never got it.
Speaker 10: Yes, we probably showed it on your show, but what
is with.
Speaker 4: You and orbs because you had one like go into
your tent?
Speaker 10: Yes, and I wasn't.
Speaker 4: Other people saw it. You didn't even see it, but
other people verified there.
Speaker 10: There were eight people that saw this thing.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 10: We we set up, We left, went checked into the cabin,
came back the next day and people surrounded the truck, like,
what do you have in your tent that can glow
over there? There's nothing in there that go look and
I showed them there's nothing here, and uh they Lori
Lad says she saw it flash outside of it and
then either it went inside or disappeared and showed up inside.
It looked green and it was moving around.
Speaker 4: It was moving around inside the tent.
Speaker 10: They could they could see it the little wall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen ors. I've seen.
Speaker 4: You didn't sleep in there that night, though, did you?
Speaker 10: Roger didn't at that location. I didn't sleep there any night.
That's why I had a cabin. I learned a lot.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, just a very us. You didn't sleep in
the tent with the York correct.
Speaker 10: No good, And you asked me a question like I
think you asked me did it surprise you or whatever?
And at this point the things we've seen, no, it
doesn't surprise me. And I don't know why it's always
around my stuff. But I had a people start was
calling me lucky Roger there for a little while, and
then I finally I started thinking, well, what if it
is something about me? I need to be checking into this.
I don't know, I don't know what it is. But
but the good thing is I've never told a story
that there wasn't at least one more to multiple witness
to witnesses or we caught on audio or videos. So
there's some stories that we've seen things, and it's just
it's happened so much it's almost it's almost getting to
be expected. I guess, Oh, this sounds weird, but have
you ever seen.
Speaker 3: An orb, Daniel, I've seen tons of orbs, but I
just I don't I don't really talk about them because
they're paranormal to me. And and from what I understand
from my great grandma and my grandma, those are wandering souls.
Not necessarily they're not malevolent, but they're just wandering souls.
I remember seeing them when I lived in uh Uh
near Huntington, West Virginia. We lived up in this haller
and uh. I remember looking out my bedroom window out
in the woods behind our house seeing these things move
through the woods. And I always thought it was my
cousins out there messing with me, because they're out there
with flashlights, and I'd seen flashes out there as well,
and again I thought it was you know, like you said,
it was a camera. And then I remember asking my
great grandma about it. She's like, oh, no, oh, no,
you know, those are spirits. There's wandering souls. They're looking
for something. He goes, you just leave them alone. You know,
they're not here to hurt you. They're just out looking
for something.
Speaker 4: You know what they used to call them in the
old days, the olden days.
Speaker 3: Willow dad, Yeah, the willow of the West.
Speaker 4: My dad used to talk about those, and I was like, ooh, man,
my hackles went up as a little kid sitting on
the steps with my dad and he's telling me about
Willow of the Wisps.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I'll tell you the first one I ever saw.
I didn't know anything about orbs. We have people always
say this, look it up. It's the Chapel Hill light
in Tennessee, And of course they have a legend that
goes with it, and we all thought it was BZ.
And I showed up one night, and the conditions must
have been right. It was about the size of the
beach ball. What I did notice though, it looked like
the color of ball lightning I'd seen before, but it
was perfectly round, and it looked like it was drawn
to the train tracks, And once it got up on
the train tracks, it shimmied like it was trying to
balance out between the two. And then once it steadied,
it started moving towards us really really smooth and slow.
And then when it left, it looked like it wasn't
its choice. When it left, it looked like it was
ripped off the tracks and went back the way it came.
So I don't know. I've heard stories of rivers having
sulfur in them, and you know, uh, these other minerals
in each side basically causing the big battery type situation.
So I don't know. Maybe, like the commenter said, there's
different types. Uh, and I would probably go with that,
but definitely its energy. And I don't think you know,
the way this other one was moving we caught on
camera it looked like it had a little intelligence to it.
So I don't know. I mean, it's it. You know,
fifteen years ago, I would have been more scared, but now,
you know, talking to people like Daniel here, we just
you bounce stories off each other and uh, listen, you listen,
you soak it up.
Speaker 16: Well.
Speaker 4: Somebody mentioned, I think it was octopus with no friends,
or it's octopus with a ton of friends, said unified
unied friends that they their daughter saw pink orbs, which
mean evetsaw two pink orbs. It was in the winter
and they came we we obviously they caught her eye
because they were neon peptal bysmal pink and there were
two of them traveling together and then they stopped in
front of the parkway and they headed right for my
car and one they were both right above the windshield
and one disappeared blanked out, and one took off. It
was so weird the color, you know, like you cannot
mistake pept ole bysmal pig for anything, right. And now
they were big, you know, they were probably I would
say soccer ball size are bigger.
Speaker 10: Before we caught this one on video.
Speaker 4: Barb or sorry, sorry, it's such a good way to
comment that, William Knighthawk said, Barbie Orbs. Okay, sorry, no,
you're good.
Speaker 10: What drew our attention, uh to the woods were the
red orbs, the smaller ones. And that's when all the
cameras came out and it was pitch dark, and uh,
that's not what. They were different than the one that
I saw. Now, I've been told by many people, uh,
this color means that or whatever. But hold on second.
I got a call. Oh lord, okay, sorry, y'all cock button.
Speaker 4: Those cough buttons are so handy.
Speaker 10: Oh no, no, I used to not do it, and
then I would listen to the podcast. Oh I got
to stop that.
Speaker 4: I uh, I did, I got I was. I did
a podcast for Dave Schrader. I was like on his
first podcast back in the studio studio over at w CCO,
And I hadn't been in that studio, and I used
to go there a lot. You were You were there
with me, weren't you.
Speaker 9: Yeah? That was fun.
Speaker 4: Yeahhow they got old big giant analog square buttons that's
in cough on it.
Speaker 9: Yep. It's an old facility. That was kind of a
time warp.
Speaker 3: You guys talking about the one downtown Minneapolis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a museum. It's so amazing. The same orange couch,
the plaid orange couches in the lobby that was there
back when I used to go there in the eighties,
still there now now.
Speaker 10: Cam just commented that she saw one like plasma polesing
different colors. The first one.
Speaker 4: I've seen that too, the small colors I saw.
Speaker 10: The one was like seventeen in the year, just a
few years ago. Heather and I were in the truck
and I didn't felt like getting out that night for
some reason, and just to her, right about ten foot up,
there was and I've told this story a bunch, but
there was. It was elongated, but it was pulsating like
she's talking about, and it was it was just changing
shapes and this went on for fifteen or twenty minute.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, well back the truck up Roger. Was this
something you saw?
Speaker 10: Yes, she pointed it out, and she's like, what is
that like? And of course I leaned over. I couldn't
see it. I'm like, what in the world? So I
changed position. I backed backed, and backed up and pulled forward.
I don't how many times, getting different angles on it.
I wasn't walking over there. Of course, I investigated the
next day, went back. There's nothing in the tree. But
she's right. It reminded me of something balling, but not
not really balling. It was pulsating and they stayed the
same color.
Speaker 4: I got the orb story that I would love to
hear it from somebody else. Adams seeing one of these,
it's not only sparking. It's got those sparks coming off
it like in those old remember the old guns. You'd
squeeze the trigger and the sparks would come out the
end like that. But it's also changing colors from bright
green blue to red yellow, green blue, and sparks are
coming off it. And we had one come right out
of the airport, right from the runway on the U.
It would have been the east runway. And it's heading
towards my car, misses the windshield by maybe ten feet
and keeps going and goes into the woods. And I
got the feeling like it was dying, and that's what
the sparks were. It was like running out of battery
or whatever you'd call it. And even got the same
feeling like it was in trouble, and the way it
headed into the woods that it was kind of sagging.
It was going, but it was moving slow. So if
anybody's seen a sparking orb that changes color, God, let
me know when.
Speaker 9: I was going.
Speaker 3: When I was in Germany back in ninety I almost
say this happened in ninety two. It was part of
a two man mobile patrol and we were driving our
patrol area and it was super dark out. We were
working mids and uh no, yeah, we were convints and
as we were coming around the curve of this road,
we thought that somebody had like a search light searchlight on.
As we were coming around, they were coming around and
all we saw was like this. As soon as we
came around the curve, like at the same time, we
got hit with that light but immediately shut off to
like a dim color and it looked like a basketball
sized thing that just went like straight and said, following
the curve of the road. It just went straight off
into the woods. And this was on base. And my uh,
my partner and I we pulled the vehicle over. We're like,
what that bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep was that? And
we turned around and we started looking and we got
out where we thought it and went off in the
woods and we pulled the vehicle right up. We hit
the brights and we had those takedown lights on on
the top of the car, so those are super bright,
and we're just out looking around and we saw or
heard nothing. But I mean, but that was on a
military base.
Speaker 10: You know, will even got too demerits, okay, Lord Lurid.
Laurid just came in to chat. She's the one that
saw the first one outside the tent and pointed it out. Yeah,
so I'm this, uh this first one I saw what people,
It's hard to explain. Can you imagine something size of
a beach ball emitting light from every direction? Because it's
around right when this thing came out of the woods
and went back, it was it was you know, probably
midnight or after the shadows you heard the term the
shadows dancing as it was changing each foot it went.
It was going fast, the tree shadows were changing. It
was It's one of the most incredible sights I've ever seen.
And I can't put that into words, but but that
showed me that it was emitting light from it at
every angle and for year, and for some reason I
wasn't scared of it. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Roger and Dan and Jeff, I don't have e ever
told you guys this story. But I was in North Carolina,
about maybe a mile from Faetdeville, if you know where
that is, close to Fort Bragg, and were parked at
a light and out above from the car window, above
the car probably I'm guessing a thousand feet up was
the biggest orb that from an arm's leg looked to
be about maybe as far as you could stretch your fingers,
so like five inches six inches. It was massive, and
it's sparking, going really slow and changing colors. This is
another incident years ago, back in like ninety two ninety three,
nineteen ninety two ninety three, and we get over to
the home we're going to and on the TV while
we walk in the house is a special report about
the military looking for a down plane. I can tell
you this was no jet going down. This was a
perfectly round orb, changing colors, sparks coming off it. But massive.
I mean it looked to me I would guess it
was one hundred feet across minimum. Wow. Well that's a
big orb, guys. Yeah. And to see the special report
of the military looking for a down plane and I'm thinking,
what a bullshit well, what a bull crap cover story
that was. Yeah, I just got I just gave my
I took I took your demerits away, William, and I
took throw that up. But we need body of mouse,
we need a body mouth.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, grab put a dollar in the tip jar
just did so.
Speaker 4: Doug.
Speaker 10: When you first got into this, uh searching for Bigfoot
and all the science and what what did what did
you think when you started, uh seeing this other stuff
that and hearing.
Speaker 4: At all? I still don't really, you know, it's I'm
open to it, but I don't. I think they're two
separate phenomenas. And I course, like orbs have always been
really interesting me because when we were maybe I was
nine years old, eight years old, me and my sister
were upstairs and we both smelt sulfur. And my parents
were gone, and they went out that night, and we
had cleaned the entire house. We had mopped the floors, vacuumed,
and now we're sitting at the kitchen table kind of
you know, we're gloating our happy mom and dad are
going to be that we clean the whole house. And
we're sitting there and we both I smell sulfur. Then
Wendy smelt sulfur, and we kept smelling sulfur and it
would drift back and forth. I said, we need to
search the house. Something could be on fire burning, right,
So one of the first places we went is into
the basement, and what do you think we see? We
get down towards the end of the stairs and a
sparking orb flies from my left and heads to the
right and hits the wall by our pool table and explodes.
Then another one comes up does the same thing, like
went through the concrete, but then exploded in a shower
of sparks. Okay, now everything pals after that, right, right,
And we ran upstairs told our parents that obviously they
didn't believe us. That was my first experience truly with
the paranormal or whatever it was.
Speaker 10: Well, it's it's so confusing because you know, I've had
people that are just flesh and blood only and all that,
and that's fine, have their mind opened up. At the
LBL a few years ago, I was talking to a
lady and her husband. UH know them very well.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 10: They were on the flesh and blood. It's like that
they're scared to even say anything other than that. But
she was telling us a story about she looked up
and saw I think it was a yellowish orb in
the sky and it had that you know when you
burn plastic and it drips and it's on fire when
it's she she said it was doing that and that,
and and it came down and there was a lot
of people standing there there that saw it. Uh so,
And since then she's had other things happen. So I
don't know if it's the area or it could be
the area and the person, you know, we don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so it's so weird. Okay, we gotta gotta
we're turning this into an orb show. We gotta quit.
Speaker 10: Now what are we talking about?
Speaker 9: Crypti Rogers unverified crap I got a new one here.
This is from christ and Christians.
Speaker 10: That's a great name. Question everything.
Speaker 4: Well, it's true.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just those are fantastic, Tristan.
Speaker 9: Tristan sent those to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's all copyrighted now, thank you, Tristan. Anyhow, Okay, cryptids, Okay,
what do you guys make of these.
Speaker 9: Like rakes?
Speaker 4: Do you get reports down south of that stuff? I
think it's more of a northernly thing.
Speaker 10: I've never heard. I heard that word for the first
time maybe two years ago.
Speaker 4: Okay, so there you're not getting reports of that.
Speaker 3: I saw mine in Tennessee and you, oh you did? Yeah,
so you did?
Speaker 9: We talk.
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about this yet.
Speaker 3: No, you said you want you wanted to hear about cryptids. Man.
I know that. But when when you automatically think of cryptids,
you think dog man, you think of you think of
I didn't.
Speaker 4: Say we needed the Jennifer Lopez of cryptids. I just
said cryptids.
Speaker 10: Well, Dan, I've seen stuff in Memphis I can't talk about, so, brother, I.
Speaker 3: Tell you right now, I have seen things in Memphis
that you cannot talk about.
Speaker 10: That's another show.
Speaker 4: Okay. When I meant by that was we don't have
to just talk about popular ones. I liked the offbeat stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, you asked me earlier, what was one of the scariest,
one of the scariest encounters that I've had come on
the show. Now, outside of Joe Barger's, there's a gentleman
named Tyler and he had that nine to one one
rate call and I had him on and if you
guys are the one with the truck where he says.
Speaker 4: It's not human, it's not human.
Speaker 3: I had him on and that call was six years ago.
And when I was interviewing him, we had to do
it twice. We had to do two interviews. The first
one didn't quite work out, so we made we made
an appointment for the next day. And I could still
see when he talks about it. I can still see
the terror that he goes through internally with that. That
is one of the scariest encounters that I've ever heard
on on my show.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and so that was you had him on
your show, the actual guy.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 4: How did you find him? How did you find him?
Speaker 3: I know people?
Speaker 9: Yeah, obviously I can't verify.
Speaker 3: It though, Oh no, it's verified. I'll give you, I'll
give you, I'll give you voice actor to do it,
and and I actually and I actually have the nine
one one.
Speaker 10: Have you heard that, Roger, I've heard, I've heard the audio.
Speaker 3: You find it, Jeff, probably if you want to go
to either the Crypto podcast and check it out there. Yeah,
well yeah, just play on his I'll tell you what
episode it is.
Speaker 10: It's funny.
Speaker 9: We just lost.
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, Well, I do what I can do.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all's fear and warned podcasting.
Speaker 10: That's right. I read a story in the late seventies
in the newspaper. I was about eight or nine years old,
and everybody was laughing, and I'm like, what's going on
at the town's about fifteen miles from here. I'm not
going to mention it right now. It's small. And what
I read in the paper this man had been having
things food stolen out of his smokehouse, and he sat
up one night with a shotgun and something was already inside.
It came out and he said it had a torsover man,
and it had hoofs for feet. It looked like the
devil and all this stuff. So years later I remember
that story and I've looked, I've looked all over. I
can't find it. And a few weeks ago, my wife
met a lady she knew, and she asked how I
was doing or whatever, and she told what we were
talking about about, and she said, oh my god, my
granddad had an experience here and it's the same guy.
So we're going to get together. I want to talk
to him about what he saw. I want to get
that documented before you know, he passes away. He's really
old now. But I was like a I was like
a kid on Christmas when she came home and told me.
I'm like, I've wondered about that story my whole life,
and I remember the details. I just want to know
if I have the details correct. But the lady told
her that he doesn't talk about it much because people
laughed at him and every time he went out in public.
You know, back then it was a whole lot different
than now. But we just don't know how many stories
and how many things people have seen that we don't
know yet.
Speaker 4: No, because most people, the more less known cryptids are
less likely to be talked about. So what did you see, Dan?
I would short? Do you mean this short short verse? Yeah?
Not that drawn out one. No, all those details are
unverified anyhow, here it is unverified.
Speaker 3: So here here's the short thing. Move back to Tennessee,
hanging out with the buddy of mine that I had
known since my freshman year, the first year I went
to the high school I was going to my senior year,
I skipped tenth and eleventh grade, and I was in
school in Washington for those two grades. Was gonna hang
out with him for the weekend ride mini bikes, which
we did. His parents were gone for the night. We
come back and as we were going through the woods,
it's next to his property. His dad had like three
hundred plus acres, I want to say roughly that he
was a farmer, so he had grow fields. And then
when we went through those woods, because there's an old,
old like farmhouse, like late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds
house in the middle of these woods. You would drive
right by those to go out to where his dad
grows his crops. And as we were coming through, my
buddy kind of slowed down as many bike, he kind
of looked and then took off well. As he slowed down,
I looked as well, and I saw something standing in
one of the windows of this of this old house.
Then I took off up after him and we run out,
put the you know, drop the bikes, jump up in
the house and uh, I go, uh, man, did you
did you see that? Did you see that? Do you
see someone over there in the uh? In that house?
He's like, yeah, why do you think I took off?
And uh So when we went into the into the house,
he was hoping to find his dad. His dad, Hey,
there's someone down in that house. Didn't see him. So
I was goofing off sitting in his dad's chair, which
you're not supposed to do, and uh cranked up the TV.
We'll listen to it. And I started hearing the scratching,
and uh, I didn't know where it was coming from,
and I thought it was coming from the TV, so
I would kind of turned switched the channels, and I
kept hearing and I'd slow it down or i'd turn
it down, and then I didn't hear it anymore. Then
I turn it up again and I hear the scratching again.
I'm thinking, oh great, I blew a speaker in this TV.
So then I start changing the channels again and then
I turned it down and I didn't hear the scratching.
I'm getting ready to turn up again, and then I
hear the scratching again.
Speaker 4: Is this story again?
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, this is gonna be a short one. So
I look at the window, out the window that my
back is to, and I see something a face looking
into the window like this. And this thing was grayish white,
pale white. Its skin was pulled tight on its skull.
It had like a nose, like a short like pushed
in nose, kind of like Voldemort kind of, if that's
what you want to call it, a huge mouth, and
uh where it's eye should be, which was like dark
like hollow sockets almost, And I jumped off. I jumped
out of the chair. My buddy comes running in because
hears me yelling. He's like what I tell him, and
he looks and I'm thinking, he's just kind of look
like this, But he went right up to the window
himself and he jumped back. He goes, I just saw
something take off away from the house. So we get
some shotguns and we go out in the backyard and
we hear his dogs just barking. His dogs were super
chill dogs. They hardly bark at anything. We go and
turn on the flashlight that he has, and I had
this little plastic piece of crap one. And so we
go out there and the dogs their tails are curled up,
their hackles are all up on their back. I mean,
these dogs are ready to fight. We've never seen these
dogs like this. So we go and try to get
him to come away, because they're standing right at the
tree line, pretty close to it, and we're like, come on, boys,
come on, come on, come on. They wouldn't move well.
But at that time, we hear something scream from the
woods and I go to turn to my buddy and
I mean, did you just hear that? And he was gone,
and the dogs were gone, and I turned and I
look behind me and they're all they're hauling butt back
up to the house. I take off running, but I
hear something coming up behind me, come through the woods,
and I'm trying to use this blame flashlight to shine
the light behind me to see if I could see something,
but I just didn't. I get up to the house
with them. We all pile into the house, even the
dogs who are not supposed to be in there. We
lock all the doors, all the windows, pull all the
shades and curtains, and we stayed up as late as
we possibly could. We were afraid that this thing was
gonna come and get us. We had taken his dad's
chair and shoved it up into the stairway going upstairs
because we thought that was gonna protect us if it
was coming in through the top windows. As we you know, crashed.
The next thing I remember is his dad kicking me
in the in the in the foot and wanting to
know what the heck was going on because the dogs
are in there. We got shotguns out, and we tell him,
we tell him what happens. So he tells us to
get in the truck. So we get in the truck,
we go down into the woods. He pulls it up.
You know, he grabbed his ar before we did this,
and he goes up into this house. You know, He's like,
which window and I had to tell him because my
buddy wasn't telling him the right window. So I told
him what window was and as he walked in the house.
There's two ways to get up to the upper floor
of this house. There's one right to the right of
the front door. It goes upstairs to the second floor,
and then at the top of that stairs it turns
to the left, or it goes straight left is where
the bedrooms, and I think a bat like two or
three bedrooms, and then the bathroom. And then if he
goes straight, the hallway goes to another stairway that goes
down into the kitchen. He goes his dad, goes up,
looks in the living room, goes into the next room,
looks in the dining room, goes into the kitchen, walks
around x saying you know. We hear him yell, start
the truck, Start the truck, Start the truck, and he
comes running through the house. He was a big boy,
three hundred plus pounds, six foot five, six foot eight
something like that, just a big country fed farmer. And
he jumped off of the porch down to the truck,
puts it in gear, drives up through his backyard, which
he loved, his backyard. His backyard looked like a like
a golf course that was so immaculate. Tore up his
backyard driving through it. Gets out. Now we're thinking something's
coming after so me and my buddy we're still have
our shotguns and we're looking to see if something comes
out of the tree line. Nothing does, but so soon
we hear a big semi truck pulling up into his
dad's property, and there was an excavator on the back
of this on this trailer that it was pulling.
Speaker 4: See Dan, Yeah, I would have started this story right there.
Speaker 3: Wow. But his but but his dad go and and
takes takes the excavator off of the trailer. This guy
takes it off the excavator, his dad gets in it
drives it down and they completely level that old house.
It was in the woods, and then he set fire
to all the rubble.
Speaker 4: Crazy.
Speaker 3: Now, I asked my buddy later, what did your dad see?
He didn't really want to talk about it. He says
he didn't see anything, but he heard something and it's
scared him enough to have him come running out of
the truck or out of the house. And since then
they sold the property.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Last I heard. His dad now lives in Florida, and
my buddy lives over and over like middle to eastern
Tennessee somewhere.
Speaker 10: He's probably close to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still running. Yeah, that's a crazy story. Anyhow,
what is the what's the weirdest cryptid down in your
neck of the woods?
Speaker 9: Roger?
Speaker 4: Is it just dog? It's dogmen, isn't it.
Speaker 10: I don't know that's that would be you know LBO
is famous for that. That's about two and a half
hours from here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw something that looked like a dog man.
Speaker 10: Me, yeah, uh no, I've never, thank goodness, never laid
eyes on anything like that.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 10: I've seen I've seen thermal video from some okay.
Speaker 4: But I thought you saw something white. I can't remember
what it was. Was that.
Speaker 3: Oh that was a wolf.
Speaker 4: That was oh, just a regular wolf.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was unexpected.
Speaker 9: That was it.
Speaker 10: They'll be l two.
Speaker 4: There's timber wolves down there.
Speaker 10: Well that there. I've seen red wolves here. They're rare,
but i've seen those. I've been close to one wolf.
It was a pet, so I knew how big they were.
I knew how long their legs were. But after midnight
on the road, you know, driving and you can imagine,
he was snow white. So when the lights hit him,
he just lit up. But what was strange his ears
were up and his neck was up like he was
after something. And then when when we came around the
curve and the lights hit him, he looked at us.
And I've never seen red eye shine like this on
a dog. They may do it, I've just never seen it.
But when our lights hit him, they just exploded with
shine and he you know, a squirrel. She mean, like
it doesn't know which way to go. That's what it did.
And when it did, it blended together. Now I know
what that was, but it was unsettling. And but here's
here's the kicker. There was a turn in and he
ran at an angle back the way it came. I
knew he's going to cross that road and I pulled in,
didn't see him. And my wife, she said, oh heavens,
I'm like, what is it? She said, I just saw
a vapor, a vapor moving across the road. What was
the size of it, by the size of a big dog.
So I didn't see it. I'm looking headlights down this
trail or this this road. I didn't see anything. And
she sees something and the way she described that, now
you we interviewed Mike Smith. Mike's a great guy. He
lives up there, and uh, they had a similar situation. Uh,
he saw something looked like a mist or a vapor,
had a shape to it, and it's I don't know
what's going on up there, y'all.
Speaker 4: It's well, it sounds a little odd. I mean, it's
just very out of place. It's almost a encryptid sighting
well white wolf, because you know what would a big,
long legged white wolf be doing down in the LBL.
Speaker 10: It's the biggest canine I've ever seen. Look at David
Ellis's comment there.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, Ron Moorehead's daughter.
Speaker 10: Well there was one. He just put it that there.
They normally fiery, white, yellow or greenish eyeshine. This, y'all,
this was this was this red wow. And that's and
I don't know if that was the unsettling part of it,
but you know, I mean, I was in the truck.
It shouldn't so.
Speaker 4: How do you know you didn't see a dog man
on all fours?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 10: Let meet, okay, let me tell you this.
Speaker 4: This is all unverified crap, you know.
Speaker 9: I know.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 10: Uh when it when it turned to leave, it was
odd looking because most animals will crouch down and change
directions and push away and spin. This thing lifted its
front legs off the ground and turned at the at
the hips like a trailer and set it and turned
almost backwards and set its front feet down in the
rear end followed it like a trailer. That that didn't
make sense to me. Now I'm not I'm not saying
that it was anything other than a wolf. But you
can see why I was unsettled because nothing was right
about that thing.
Speaker 4: It was a very what we would call a not
wolf or not wolf. So Jeff finally saw something near
with me. You were driving right behind me, right, Joe,
and we saw a not deer.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 4: 's first weird thing. Where do you think, uh, somewhere
that you drove right.
Speaker 3: By the other day, Dan bro Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Right? And Blane No, no, no, it wasn't Rolina Lakes. Yeah,
between from Blaine are you three three of us sat, Yeah,
it was. It looked it was a miniature deer. It
was not a fawn. I know, I know white tailed
deer extremely well. Yeah, And it was not a faun.
It wasn't spot I mean, it was.
Speaker 4: A full grown deer that was full grown year.
Speaker 9: It was weird. I was three of us saw it.
Speaker 4: It was like a complete dough and literally put it
in and shrunk.
Speaker 9: It colored like an adult dough.
Speaker 3: Were you did you go by? Right? Was over by
Rice Creek area?
Speaker 4: That was right by the Bill's supert.
Speaker 3: No, kid, I guess I know what I'm going to
be looking for. But you know, when Roger you talk
about that deer, I mean that wolf, you know. I
told I told Doug yesterday about the encounter I had
up up in the ute up in Michigan, just just
west of Escanaba. I saw the biggest wolf I had
ever seen in my life. And I told Doug it
was so big that it could have taken its chin
and rested it on the hood of my my full
sized Silverado. And I told him, I said, I was
at a dead stop on the road. There was no
one else coming towards me or behind me. This wolf
was looking at me. It had stopped in the middle
of the road, and I had to fight the urge
to get out of my truck and approach this animal.
Like I'm not saying that, oh I want to go,
Like I felt like something was compelling me to get
out of your truck, open your door, get out of
your truck and approach this wolf. And then it just
kind of looked at me a couple more times, and
then it just walked away. Now, the coincidental part of
this is just west of Escanaba, there is a cemetery,
and it just so happens it took place in that area,
and it moved from the side of where the cemetery
is from going across the road towards the lake. So
it's coincidental. But you guys, I hate to do this
to you. I've gotta go. I gotta you gotta, you
gotta do Dano in the morning, I am yeah, six
six forty five am Central Standard time, you guys, so.
Speaker 4: Catch him early tomorrow morning. Yeah, he's gonna do you
drink coffee?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 3: Sometimes I drink coffee. Sometimes I drink mountain dew. A
lot of times I drink unsweetened iced tea.
Speaker 4: I might. I might be watching tomorrow, Doug.
Speaker 3: You hardly ever sleep.
Speaker 4: I might watch. Oh, man, I was a I saw
the sun come up today, but I went to bed
about when the sun was coming up.
Speaker 3: So awesome.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Daniel, and it's a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Hey, Jeff and Doug, we have we have to do
lunch again.
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, we'll have you.
Speaker 4: We'll have you back and we'll yeah, pick up on
some more CRYPTI stories.
Speaker 3: Cool, all right, guys. Hey Roger, great seat again, buddy,
you too. Bye.
Speaker 4: Have a safe flow.
Speaker 3: I will, man, and don't forget man. Don't bump your
head walking.
Speaker 4: Through the door because you because I am taller.
Speaker 3: I see you guys later. Bye, guys.
Speaker 10: See Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Now what now?
Speaker 9: What talk about? Well, I've got that. I've got the
clip that he talked about. I got that right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's play that real quick.
Speaker 9: Let's talk about this.
Speaker 4: It's hard. Here's my point on a clip like this.
Audio is the hardest thing to fake. It's even harder
than visuals is audio. So listen to the audio.
Speaker 9: This is straight from his podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure we have permission. Turn up the volume.
Speaker 15: One.
Speaker 16: What's the address of your emergency?
Speaker 12: I'm driving on two ten. I just crossed the Black River,
and I thought I saw a guy standing on the
side of the road bleeding.
Speaker 16: Okay, where are you at, sir.
Speaker 12: I'm on two ten, I just crossed the Black River.
I'm heading forwards fifty three E. I just passed Patriots.
Speaker 4: Watch.
Speaker 16: Okay, see you're aver near Morse Creek chet Okay, And
did you you saw me and stand on the side
of the road, just ma'am.
Speaker 12: And it looked like he was bleeding because when I
drove by, I had my high beings on and all
I could see was just some streaks of breast going
down in his body, starting at his head.
Speaker 16: Okay, Hold, I'm trying to get back to where you're at. Okay,
I'm trying.
Speaker 12: It in the middle of the woods at the moment.
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm familiar with the area.
Speaker 8: Now partnering with dish Starlight.
Speaker 4: I don't think that was the whole clip. That wasn't
the clip, tritting that. That was not the clip.
Speaker 10: Jeff, you're muting your muted.
Speaker 9: Jeff, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4: Hold on, now go to the Tristan clip. You only
played like a small part of that clip.
Speaker 9: I just played right from YouTube. But this is the
right clip. Hold on a second. We just went to
an ad the moment.
Speaker 16: Yes, sir, I'm familiar with the area.
Speaker 4: We already heard this. Just step forward a little bit.
Speaker 9: It's coming up.
Speaker 16: What was that, sir, tip.
Speaker 4: Chair, sir?
Speaker 16: Are you okay?
Speaker 9: Sir?
Speaker 16: Okay, what's in the road.
Speaker 10: It's truck.
Speaker 16: There's something in the bed of your truck.
Speaker 3: Just ma'am.
Speaker 12: I just turned on my bed lights for my trucking
or something in my thut.
Speaker 16: Okay, So when you say something, what do you mean.
Speaker 12: I just knocked it off to the bent of my
truck and went over my room.
Speaker 16: Okay, what was it?
Speaker 10: Yeah, So with these headphones on, I heard whatever it
was go in the truck, sound like hoofs, and I
heard him gun. He floored it.
Speaker 4: Really, I.
Speaker 10: Heard the engine he when he right as he started panicking,
he floored it. The engine was humming. Uh are you
going now, now one one operator?
Speaker 4: Oh? Really?
Speaker 10: When?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 10: For a couple of years right out of high school,
I worked at the Sheriff's department, and I did all
kinds of different jobs. But uh that when somebody calls you,
they're not there. You're not going to call now one
one in prank? You know that, you can't. You know
you don't do that. And listening to the.
Speaker 4: I don't, Yeah, because everybody knows they're going to trace
your damn call.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 10: But I but hearing that fear that gave me flashbacks.
Hearing that fear in his voice, needing help. I've heard
that so many times. You you can't fake that.
Speaker 4: Does anybody know who he is?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well obviously did he ever he had him on the show.
We got it.
Speaker 9: Yeahs I'm going to get that number from Daniel and
I'll share it with you.
Speaker 10: Roger all right, the h the accident on the dispatchers
sounded like they could be from around here somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 10: Well, he gave clues the highway two ten and what
was it the Black River, so we might could search
Google Earth.
Speaker 4: The other weird thing that I wanted love to follow up.
Somebody had mentioned the woman on the airplane that when
viral everybody filmed her, she was freaking out going that
guy or that person is not human, and I think
David Birch brought that up, that we should try to
locate her. That was really creepy too. Obviously that was real.
That was verifying.
Speaker 10: Well, her her reaction. First off, she got space between
her and whatever she was.
Speaker 4: Talking, right, she left and walked away.
Speaker 10: And then she she something was something scared that lady.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I mean, like I said, you can, you can act,
but I've heard and I know everybody else has too,
but I've heard like fear when people think they're gonna
die in the moment, and it's you can't fake that.
I don't care how good an actor you are.
Speaker 4: You know what, though, I have a feeling that she's
saw something, probably with his eyes. I'm just guessing just
guessing because one time. I'm not gonna say where I was,
I'm not gonna say who I was with, But I
was trying to calm somebody down who wasn't mad at me.
They were mad at somebody else, and they were really
angry at them, and I'm trying to get them to like, no,
we don't need this. We were setting up. Yeah, I'm
not even gonna go to any details. And I watched
this angry person, this very angry person's eyes turn into
slits up and down, vertical slits, and their eyes kind
of started shaking before that happened, and I backed off
away from that guy because it did not It was
kind of like, uh, what am I looking at here?
And it was on a really good lighting and yet
their eyes turned to like reptilian slits and they were
extremely angry when it happened. I don't think human eyes
are capable of that, are they?
Speaker 10: Mm hmmm? I don't think so.
Speaker 4: And I, yeah, that freaked me out really bad. To
see that I'm close. Yeah, personally.
Speaker 10: Makes you makes you wonder.
Speaker 4: It just makes you wonder, like is that what she saw?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 4: The guy was. I kind of believe in that because
when I when you see it yourself, you believe in it, right,
And I saw it myself and I was not mistaken.
I was in really good lighting, like really good, like
fluorescent lighting, and this guy's I started quivering and then
they turned to slits, and the guy looked like a reptile,
and then they went back to which is the weirdest
part of it.
Speaker 10: So what the hell Rusty says he has feline eyes.
I ain't noticed that. I've talked to you several times
face to face.
Speaker 4: Rusty's got feline eyes.
Speaker 10: That, yeah, that's what he said.
Speaker 4: Okay, well our feline eyes, Yeah, they're kind of up
at vertical, aren't they.
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so our goats. Goats have weird eyes too.
Speaker 10: Think about this, dude, just me kicking around the why
and all that. You You think if now, I know
the people have been standing there, if they'd have been
able to see it, maybe some of us can see
things that others can't. You ever thought about.
Speaker 4: That that some of us can? Oh, I see kind
of like uh, Roddy Piper when he.
Speaker 10: Put the glasses on, right, that's awesome. I love that movie.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I knew him because my business partner
was Kurt Henning when I first started. We were shooting
a TV show. I mean, Kurt became good friends, and
he was good friends with you know, with Rod Roddy,
and so I'm meeting all these guys. I've met some
man of those guys, but he was super cool. I
don't believe he's around with us anymore, is he?
Speaker 10: I don't think so he's passed.
Speaker 4: But that was a good movie.
Speaker 9: Roddy Piper, Yeah, Riddy Piper passed away.
Speaker 4: That they I think it was called They Live.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's John Carpenter movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was a good movie. And but yeah,
maybe that's possible. But I was alone with this guy.
We had stepped aside, so I wanted to have words,
you know that like calm down, you don't need to
be mad about this, you know, and just trying to
get him just settle down. And there was a lot
at stake with these guys going at it, and I'm like, god,
it's it's like the worst thing you could do right now.
But to see those eyes shimmer and then to go
to slits was quite disturbing. I never thought about that
guy ever the same again.
Speaker 9: Ever Minxy's comment father Chad Ripperger is American Catholic priest.
He's he's he's the top exorcist in the in the
North America, and it's worth watching interviews with him. He
talks about that kind of stuff, shape shifters, and yeah,
that's straight out of you know, kind of esoteric Catholic theology.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy stuff. I'm looking here. I talked to a
boy with diamond shaped pupils. They're rare, but real well,
I know, but this is not. This guy's eyes changed
and they're like really reptilian looking. I mean, everything about
the eye wasn't just the pupils, it was the whole eye,
just to color. Everything changed and then it was like
he realized it and they went back to normal again.
Speaker 10: I've only seen eyes like that one time, but it
didn't they didn't change. I was at our store where
I was younger, and a couple came in. It was
a lady and when I looked up, the hand to
her change back. Her eyes had pupils that were elongated,
and I know, I couldn't hide it. I you know,
stared at her and she smiled, and I just I
was being respectful, you know, And I wish I had
asked her about it, because I mean, I think I
think some people might have that, but they didn't change
or anything. But it was just odd looking into a
human's face and seeing cat eyes. You know, I don't
think they were you.
Speaker 4: Know, did you ever see it? Did you ever see
anybody with black you know, the completely black eyes? No? Good, No,
it was I was where the heck was the Oh
we were at a mall and it was just a family.
I don't know. It was like a woman and her
two kids, and they all had black eyes. Black eyes
in the mall at this table, now brown eyes, they
were black. We were just staring at him while we
were eating.
Speaker 10: Was the weirdest thing, the weirdest thing that I've ever
encountered with humans. A man, a hitchhiker come in. He
was an old man, probably you know, I don't know
how he was, but he's really dirty and he was speaking.
It wasn't a language, but he was constantly talking. I
couldn't understand. I didn't pick up on anything that I
that I recognized, and I something about this man. He
walked up to the counter and his eyes were blue
as they could be. The whites were as white as
they could be really and I felt I felt this peace,
and I gave him. I went, I got like six
bottles of water and some food and everything, and I'm like, here, man,
take this, I know you're probably having a hard time.
And he took one bottle of water and one snack
and pushed the rest to me. The beer man. The
beer man was outside. I saw him talking to him,
and he had bottles of water on the truck too
and all that, and he said, you need anything. He
shook his head no. And when he came in, I'm like,
did you find that weird? He said, man, I got
I've got chills. I said, what do you think that was?
He said, I don't know. I've never had anybody, hitchhiker,
homeless turn anything down. I said, dude, I tried to
give it. I tried to load him up with stuff
and he only took what he needed. I've never had
that happen either. And we I said, do we just
say an angel? He said, I wouldn't put I wouldn't
write that off, because that's the weird. Looking in his
eyes was the most peaceful, weird thing I've ever experienced
in my life. So we had the same experience and
he was outside, I was inside. We talked about it later,
you know, the same a few minutes later. I don't
know what that was, but I have heard stories since
then the same thing, the exact same situation, So I
don't know.
Speaker 4: So he had asked about whether the black no, the
whole eye, the whites, everything black. Wow, it was really weird.
And we just kept staring with my daughter and we
just kept staring at this. I felt bad for him
because I think they started noticing we were staring. But
I don't think somebody would put contacts in the little
kids too, right, for it wasn't around Halloween or anything.
What the deal was going on there? And you've heard
about the black eyed kids, right and all that stuff,
which is kind of a creepy, you know, creepy pasta
kind of stuff that goes on.
Speaker 10: Well, I have a family photo, probably from the early
nineteen hundreds, maybe a little later, and I didn't Kenny Shivers,
our buddy, found all this for me. And so it
was great great great great granddaddy and his second wife
and then all of these little kids.
Speaker 9: Doug.
Speaker 10: I'll see if I can find the picture all of
these little kids that he had with his new lady.
Even the woman in that photo, they look like they
have black eyes, the creepiest looking picture. You're a single life.
But I'll see if I can find that. But I
don't know. There's so much. It's like, you get into this,
you want to learn about Bigfoot and everything that comes
along with it. You don't know where to put it.
And but when you get out in the woods or
out at midnight, at one o'clock in the morning and
this weird stuff, you hear things that you wouldn't hear
done during the day. I heard a woman laughing out
at the land, and Heather didn't hear and hurt. See
that's the thing. Her hearing is better than mine. And
I heard clearly a woman laughing. There's nobody within a
long ways from this place, and I'm like, did you
hear that woman laughing? She know usually she's asking me,
did you hear this? Did you hear that? The next
time we went, I heard the same life from the
same area and I've never heard it again, but that
he reminded me of a cartoon witch, you know what
I mean, like a cackle. And I look, y'all, when
I start telling stories, I know there's people this first
time they've heard me talk. I know I sound crazy,
but all I can tell is what I've heard, what
I've seen, you know, and all that Doug Pro Wrestling.
Oh my god, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what is it?
Speaker 10: Roger Magicchick? Oh god, I check Magic.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 4: I used to hang out with a guy named mister Perfect,
so there you go. Oh had We had so much
fun with that name. And I was actually it was
weird because I was thinking about Kurt today because I
saw something on Facebook and then Eric had mentioned that
he knew or Kurt's son, Joe, and he lived only
a couple of blocks from Miss House, and so I
was got to call Joe and tell him some stories
about us father lots of awesome. I knew Larry really
well too. Yeah, I knew obviously Joe's grandfather and Larry.
Oh my god, the weirdest Larry story I have, But
I gotta tell. I gotta tell this story. So with
I'm with Larry. We're at my office, and Larry the
accent and I just Larry kept having me because I
was working with Kurt. So Larry's like, oh, Doug can
shoot our because Larry liked to raise money for kids.
So Larry's like, Doug, can you shoot this thing for
this event, shoot the commercial for this event. Whatever. So
I do all this stuff, no charge for him. So
me and Larry became friends too, And Larry's in my
office and one day he gets a call and he goes, yeah,
he's talking to this guy and he goes he goes, Doug,
talk to this guy for a second. He's really famous.
He was the one that flew Theanola Gay and dropped
a Hiroshima bomb. And I'm like, he just hands me
the phone and I'm talking to this guy, going uh,
oh my god.
Speaker 9: Larry the Axe, he was a legend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's before he had his beard, and that
was when he was young. But he looks a lot
like Hurt in that picture put up a picture of
Kurt Sure, mister perfect. And but Larry, Larry's like, why
why did you have me talk to him? He goes, well,
because we're gonna work on a project and you're gonna
film it. I'm like, oh gosh, I mean, is that
some bad maybe bad karma talking to the guy that
dropped a nuclear weapon or a hydrogen weapon on a Citio.
Speaker 10: And his cat bombed.
Speaker 9: Oh, I love that sidetrack him like this. I love
this stuff is great.
Speaker 4: That's fine. Uh. That's obviously a younger picture of Kurt.
He kind of looked like that when I first started
working with him, kind of a kid. But then he
went to this go ahead and put on mister perfect
Kurt when he went to work for the w w E.
But Kurt was really he really was a wonderful guy.
I really enjoyed his It was like a brother to me.
He was a great friend, and he uh had the
greatest sense of humor ever. I was happy, I was smiling,
and we did a lot of crazy stuff together, riding
a uh in a motor home with a whole bunch
of uh. There's that's fake, that's.
Speaker 9: Not him, that's a that's sorry grows uh.
Speaker 4: But he with the a whole bunch of wrestlers and
you're out partying, and these guys were all these you
know ww wwf WWE wrestlers, and I would always be
the one to keep them in line because I'm the
guy they're not going to pick on. I was like
a third of their size, and so I could tell
them what to do and get away with it. Knock
it off. You know, it was constantly We're not doing that.
We're not going there. We're not doing that. Don't take
a p there. No, don't do that. There's people walking there.
Don't do this, don't do that. We had fun. You know,
Jeff's having a trouble.
Speaker 9: There's got to be a Jillian picture. Yeah, that's I
think that's Ai too, But that's He.
Speaker 4: That's not that's Ai.
Speaker 10: Trust me, Okay, everything they are now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people are putting up yeah, because you know
it's been you know, twenty four years probably since Kirk's passed.
It's been a while. Any of them that I never
did ask Kurt if you ever saw a ghost or
cryptid or whatnot.
Speaker 9: All right, let's.
Speaker 4: Wrap this up. We're off target completely, Roger, just hang
in there one more second.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll be right back. Let's play some wisdom.
Speaker 1: It's now time for Untold Radio AM Wisdom of the Week.
Patience is power. It sharpens judgment, prevents costly mistakes, and
puts you in control when others lose theirs. It lets
you see opportunities others miss and act at the right
moment instead of the fast one. In the long run.
Patience doesn't slow success, it multiplies it.
Speaker 9: Good Night.
Speaker 1: We hope to see you all next week. If you
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Speaker 1: Now back to Doug and Jeff for our rap.
Speaker 4: We are back, we are back, We'll be back. Thank
you for watching all of this. You're home for unverified crap.
I'll have to uh talk to you Roger tomorrow. Good time.
We can go over a bunch of new new things
going on. Hm.
Speaker 10: Now we'll he plants, seeds and I want to be
able to sleep tonight.
Speaker 4: It's all good, it's all good stuff.
Speaker 10: I'm calling you after the show.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's fine. Can you can but good night?
Everybody would be back. I do not know who our
guest speaks to either, because I never know. It's written
in the calendar. Well, we'll be here tomorrow, and thank
you so much, Roger.
Speaker 9: Thanks Roger, surprised again.
Speaker 4: With your friendly southern drawl.
Speaker 10: Well, I appreciate it. I don't I don't know what
the appeal is. But I have people. I used to
have people come in our store from traveling from up north,
and I've had so many times people bring video cameras
in can you talk again? Can you?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Can you? Yeah?
Speaker 10: Just just do that right there. I'm like, okay, and y'all,
I'm actually worse. I'm actually worse than this. But I
slow down and annunciate. If you catch me out around
the fire, you won't be able to understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's funny. It's funny. Yeah, it's a
fun show tonight. Yeah, I'm sorry for all the goofing
around tonight. It just happens. It's just happened that night
that the tongues were hanging out all of our news pictures.
Speaker 9: Remember that, Yes I do. It was a fun night too,
So that fun.
Speaker 10: When I got up off the couch, heathers, so where
are you going? I said, I have been summoned.
Speaker 16: Mad.
Speaker 4: Others not gonna like me.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 10: She hears all the h the conversations when we're on
speakerphone and all that, and she just over there smiling
and laughing at us. Yeah, it's just like just like
your wife. I mean, I've talked her more times than
and uh, you know who would have thought six years
ago when I first started doing this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because I'll call me and I just I
don't even reward Roger your in, either of them, just patriman,
and so I watch what I'm saying at all times
now with him, so you never know when he's gonna
do you like that?
Speaker 10: Oh this is the person right here. How long you
been on here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I uh, I happened of doing that with all
sorts of people. One day I did that, and then
we ended up with like five people on. I just
got patching him in, patching him in.
Speaker 10: Patching, I asked, Doug, I've already picked up on I
know when people are coming in. I said, I need
to fly up there and and grease your door.
Speaker 9: Yeah you do.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well you can flow up flow up here,
as Daniel would say, come up here and flow up
here in the grease door. And okay, remember this crap
all night with this stuff. We love everybody. Thank you
so much. You guys were a really fun crowd. We
will be back next week, same time, same channel, and
thank you Roger.
Speaker 10: Thanks everybody always fun.
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in Norway. If never you should be endowed and Hollway.
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