Speaker 1: Here with Gil Melndez Nada, two of my best friends
Speaker 1: were chilling in Hawaii. Uh, Hawaii, so where we both
Speaker 1: been a lot. Me and Gil used to fight here.
Speaker 1: You've been out with fights with us out here, so
Speaker 1: I came. We get a little mini podcasts and what
Speaker 1: up Gilbert.
Speaker 2: What's up? Jake Shills.
Speaker 3: I do remember coming out here and fighting one of
Speaker 3: my first biggest fights against Stephen Bozo paullin out here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: The Hawaiians do it well, they do it. Uh, they
Speaker 3: do it big out here man, and the Blaisdale Arena.
Speaker 3: We used to fight out here and a lot of
Speaker 3: nostalgic moments over here today, you know, and just being.
Speaker 2: Out here in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember we would come out here and we
Speaker 1: feel like superstars and we go back to mainland.
Speaker 4: No one knew us, like, well this sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, superstars for like a weekend or something like that.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, the Hawaiians loved fighting, and like I remember,
Speaker 3: they had Rumble in the Rock out here, like bj
Speaker 3: Pen created that.
Speaker 2: And uh and his brothers and you know Rich Chow.
Speaker 3: Like one of the guys we know out here. Remember
Speaker 3: just fighting out here, and it was it.
Speaker 4: Was did you I want to hear the story. Now
Speaker 4: what happened is enough story. You don't beat his ass?
Speaker 5: Cool?
Speaker 2: Now did you ever come out here, Nate? Did you
Speaker 2: ever come out here in that corner?
Speaker 6: Corner?
Speaker 2: Nick out here?
Speaker 7: Who do you fight?
Speaker 6: Nick? Fo Harris Torentomento. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Bought kjnunes out here too, right?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, kJ news out here, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: He Mike, Mike, great, Yeah, I got I would just
Speaker 1: clip it on the shirt maybe make.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: I think we just yeah, we we missed the kJ
Speaker 1: neons uh brawl out here because we always had. We
Speaker 1: were always tight. You guys had a big brawl with
Speaker 1: kJ without being gil.
Speaker 4: What happened with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Nick fought Nick fought.
Speaker 8: Nickus Corrie and the and we went to uh in
Speaker 8: the cage afterwards. Oh no, what happened was kJ fought
Speaker 8: and then they were yelling at Nike.
Speaker 6: That's crazy how that was worked out. It was all
Speaker 6: set up.
Speaker 8: They were yelling at Nick like getting the cage, getting
Speaker 8: the cage because they wanted the Nick for his kJ rematch.
Speaker 8: They didn't know what they were doing, and they waned
Speaker 8: it all because we're sitting there on the set of
Speaker 8: the cage watching the fight, and they started yelling, hey,
Speaker 8: getting the cage, getting next, get in the cage, like yeah,
Speaker 8: go go callmar or whatever like how they did with
Speaker 8: ma'am Miller and then and.
Speaker 6: Then uh and then Nick was like, funk, let's get
Speaker 6: in the cage, and and he watched in.
Speaker 8: We all walk in, and then they're sitting there with
Speaker 8: their winning and they were just sacking, like what these
Speaker 8: guys doing in here?
Speaker 6: And so I remember sitting there. I was the youngest
Speaker 6: one in there, like I was like, fuck.
Speaker 8: You guys, and they were mad and they were it
Speaker 8: was just they set up for fucking ruggets. And then uh, yeah,
Speaker 8: it all, it all popped up in there a little
Speaker 8: bit that major happened.
Speaker 2: I think it was only that at that time you
Speaker 2: were fighting for them too.
Speaker 3: But I remember watching on TV and I remember seeing
Speaker 3: you guys in there just giving the finger kJ news.
Speaker 3: Dad was in there's a bunch of yeah, Goldberg was
Speaker 3: in there, and Dad's no fucking bomb.
Speaker 1: It's what's funny is we all went Mayhem's ass. And
Speaker 1: I just the other day I thought, you know what
Speaker 1: Mayhem got set up? He probably got pushed in the
Speaker 1: cage and we beat his ass. I'm like, I had
Speaker 1: that realization, but whatever, I'm still glad we beat his ass.
Speaker 8: They're making they were making ruckas for good pgs.
Speaker 2: But they thought we thought we didn't. We didn't get
Speaker 2: that part right. We didn't understand that. I didn't understand
Speaker 2: that part at least I didn't know things were scripted
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were just young g's like you know, they
Speaker 6: get in there, get in there.
Speaker 1: Of course, they didn't think we were gonna fight. They
Speaker 1: thought we were gonna talk ship, but we didn't. We
Speaker 1: didn't roll that way. So we beat his ass and
Speaker 1: they weren't too happy with us afterwards. They lost their
Speaker 1: CBS deal and.
Speaker 3: Uh, we'll circle though now CBS Paramount UFC just signs
Speaker 3: a you know, seven billion dollars deal with them and everything.
Speaker 6: They involved in that whole ship due there in the
Speaker 6: paramount paramount.
Speaker 2: And am I right? Am I right?
Speaker 3: I think affirm that if not exit out, but I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: full circle. I think you know, you'll probably be watching
Speaker 3: m M A back on CBS soon, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's great, man, Yeah, because we used to
Speaker 1: fight like on CBS people don't realize how big that was.
Speaker 1: Eve though it wasn't in the UFC. Fighting in those
Speaker 1: CBS cards was getting so many views like the Strike Force,
Speaker 1: it felt like.
Speaker 4: The same UFC.
Speaker 7: I got to share my micae with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of pass you think of that. Let's
Speaker 4: light up the joint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7: Like this.
Speaker 3: I laugh because I hang out with Scott Coker and
Speaker 3: every so often he talks about how we like messed
Speaker 3: messed up the CBS.
Speaker 4: Still, you know, like hates me. Still.
Speaker 2: I think it was that Strike Force with the CBS
Speaker 2: brawl right there, apologetic.
Speaker 7: It looks at me and he's like, look this there
Speaker 7: we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably crazy.
Speaker 6: That's time though.
Speaker 4: See let me know how Ron did on Joint.
Speaker 8: And then when they got there, Yeah, we we would
Speaker 8: love for you to come in here and get your has.
Speaker 4: That's the wrong time to roll.
Speaker 6: Up on the wrong people. That bag man Miller settled down, buddy,
Speaker 6: you hitling out, we bitch.
Speaker 1: But he took a beating and never complained like a bitch.
Speaker 1: I'll give him credit for that. He never cried about it.
Speaker 1: He took He took a beating like a man. So
Speaker 1: I'll give him some credit.
Speaker 2: He's doing good for himself now, right, he's doing pretty good.
Speaker 7: I think you're doing better. And Gilbert, you got your
Speaker 7: own fight show.
Speaker 6: Now, I do, I do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing something in the Bay area, just something in
Speaker 2: the Barry you have been Uh.
Speaker 3: Scott Coker has been a great mentor for that and
Speaker 3: has a lot of infrastructure.
Speaker 2: So we're doing the fight show over there, fight Night
Speaker 2: right now in San Jose Man. You know, I feel like.
Speaker 3: Barry needs it, you know, just Bary the Burier ecosystem.
Speaker 3: It's been fun, it's been out there supporting.
Speaker 6: I feel in our account in general, we need some
Speaker 6: more fight show shows.
Speaker 4: Right, maybe you can get me in Scott cool again.
Speaker 2: I think Scott losy what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: I'm happy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he loves it.
Speaker 3: No, for sure, let's be honest, right, Dan Henderson was
Speaker 3: a new guy. They signed a big star, and you know,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of times we're in those positions.
Speaker 2: We weren't there to win, Jake, we weren't.
Speaker 3: There to win, but we but you do, and then
Speaker 3: that's uh, you know, and then they say the person
Speaker 3: wasn't that good, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they wanted me to lose, so I understand
Speaker 1: why he wasn't happy. Then we beat up Ahem on TV.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the moment.
Speaker 1: But let's get back into history real quick where the
Speaker 1: people were known as the scrap Pack.
Speaker 4: We're three fourths of it a boy Nicks in Mexico
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 6: So how do we meet.
Speaker 2: Gilbert shoot Man?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I met Jake Shields at SF State my second year
Speaker 3: in college. Jake shild showed up over there, and I
Speaker 3: think we got we were friends first because, like you know,
Speaker 3: Jake was looking to hang out and we like, we
Speaker 3: want to go hang out and party a little bit
Speaker 3: and a lot that a lot, a lot of bit.
Speaker 2: But back in the day we.
Speaker 3: Had VHS's, you know, like cassette tapes and then uh
Speaker 3: and Jake and I and everyone in the dorms was
Speaker 3: watching like Sheer Dog, the Sheer Dog highlight videos. Did
Speaker 3: you watch those nigga highlight videos like with Ego about Champion.
Speaker 8: Everything everything you can you watch? I was find we
Speaker 8: were hunting down for sure.
Speaker 3: I didn't even watch Choke Tilter, but we used to
Speaker 3: watch other Anyways, my sophomore year in college, Jake Shields
Speaker 3: shows up and says he's.
Speaker 2: Done m M A fights and I said, I thought
Speaker 2: I was a liar.
Speaker 3: I thought he was a liar. Bro I said, I
Speaker 3: thought you were a liar. I've seen every UFC and
Speaker 3: you aren't in any of them. And I challenged him
Speaker 3: in the dorms, you put what you fucked me up,
Speaker 3: You put me in some pretzels, and uh, I was like,
Speaker 3: this guy got some real stuff. And then he showed
Speaker 3: me some VHS tapes and uh, what was it? A
Speaker 3: Glandator Challenge or U? I cannot at the moment.
Speaker 4: Right, all right, we have people try to get something
Speaker 4: joint or what our neighbors. I didn't above us trying
Speaker 4: to smoke. I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then we had VHS and I saw you
Speaker 3: fighting Gladator Challenge King of the Cage, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I always wanted to try that ship. I always wanted
Speaker 3: to try that. And uh, dude, I admired that, Jake.
Speaker 3: I admired that about you. You whoop my butt.
Speaker 2: And then you took me to see the gracies or
Speaker 2: I mean, and.
Speaker 4: That's and that's how Nate got sucked in.
Speaker 1: I brought Gilbert and I think Nick's like, well, my
Speaker 1: brother has to trade with Gilbert now because me and
Speaker 1: Nick used to we were friends, but we were super competitive,
Speaker 1: like the best dudes of the gym, or this guy
Speaker 1: at David Drell. He was just a savage. But after
Speaker 1: that it was like, you know, me and me and
Speaker 1: Nick were battling it out. So once I brought gil
Speaker 1: Nick started bringing Nate and I.
Speaker 3: Walked in, dude, and like like, right, correct me if
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, dude, Like Jake and Nick like just had
Speaker 3: this look on their eye like they're mad. They they
Speaker 3: were like they already knew they were gonna be world champions.
Speaker 6: Like they were just like, you know, when you got
Speaker 6: out of the car, you can tell why we're here.
Speaker 6: Come on, let's go. Don't fucking embarrass me.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, dude.
Speaker 3: I was just right, yeah, I love I love kicking
Speaker 3: it with Nate because where it was like He's like
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, yeah, dude, he's the tension, and
Speaker 3: it was like comic Relieve you guys were so serious
Speaker 3: and like I just admired you about.
Speaker 8: Nick earlier always easing the tension, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: right neck all the time, and he spooked the whole
Speaker 8: room when I'm a kid and I have to fucking
Speaker 8: and I was the most uncomfortable becuse I already knew
Speaker 8: it was coming. So I like, I have to line
Speaker 8: up this room somewhere. I gotta start talking. I gotta
Speaker 8: learn how to talk. And training help me with that too,
Speaker 8: because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Nick were probably a little too serious,
Speaker 1: but we were on a mission to like take over
Speaker 1: the world. We were completely obsessed, so we were kind
Speaker 1: of lunatics. I used to get fights in the gym
Speaker 1: all the time, but fuck man, we were on a mission.
Speaker 1: We had something to accomplish.
Speaker 8: They were like, you, guys, how guys are coming to
Speaker 8: have a thing going on just somewhere else.
Speaker 7: It's like, hey, guys, I'm demonetized everywhere.
Speaker 1: So if you want to support me in the podcast,
Speaker 1: go to fight Back podcast dot com and you can
Speaker 1: buy some cool merch. I they shut him right now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but like they told me one time too, Like, bro,
Speaker 8: he's like all fucking high telling me that these motherfuckers
Speaker 8: are we need to go train with him twice a
Speaker 8: week otherwise we're gonna be fucked. They're the fucking Yin
Speaker 8: and the Yang motherfucker's preaching me all fucking loaded. I'm
Speaker 8: sitting there at fifteen like yeah, yeah, because you guys
Speaker 8: wrestling and kick box and we boxed and.
Speaker 6: Grappling, and was like he went fucking ini yang. Motherfucker
Speaker 6: couldn't get no more najay than that. He's talking to
Speaker 6: a little kid out like fuck, you're right. That was it.
Speaker 8: That was and then they capitalized you know what I'm saying, yo,
Speaker 8: And then if I didn't go now and then ever,
Speaker 8: That's why I love that fact that people think I
Speaker 8: can't wrestle. I'll go fucking wrassle people, uh when we're
Speaker 8: strictly wrestling on my bride year.
Speaker 4: The wrestling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think he's actually really unusual that
Speaker 1: we were able to become competitors and such good friends
Speaker 1: because we we drove each other for competition, like you know,
Speaker 1: me and Nick and you and Gilbert. But it never
Speaker 1: turns like we were always like brothers the same fine.
Speaker 1: We had an agreement, like we ain't fighting each other.
Speaker 8: He should have seen how I'm madd he was. They
Speaker 8: win mahn Miller. We fucked him up and it was
Speaker 8: funny and after they and out over it, right, and
Speaker 8: Nick was like.
Speaker 9: No, dude, he fucking dis Drake when he just beat
Speaker 9: fucking Dan Henderson and he was having just a moment
Speaker 9: and he's fucking like such a nice guy, and he
Speaker 9: was just telling me how infinited he.
Speaker 6: Was that man, like, damn, you hate him.
Speaker 8: Just got my back, Nil passionate with he like, bro,
Speaker 8: this my boy like that. It was fucking but that's
Speaker 8: just all from the work and all that made it
Speaker 8: more like that than it could be.
Speaker 1: You know, he really had my back, and that's rare
Speaker 1: someone that's willing to goever matter what. And like when
Speaker 1: I thought Strike Force Nick was the one seventy pounds champ,
Speaker 1: it wasn't even all these dumb asses.
Speaker 4: Would be like, oh, we'll fight. It was just like
Speaker 4: someone asked me. It's like, fuck you, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: fight Nick. I'll moved twenty eighty five.
Speaker 6: Remember on the young day, he was telling me when
Speaker 6: he went, did your pan with him?
Speaker 8: Because he's older than Nick, And Nick was like, Nick
Speaker 8: would just tell me everything.
Speaker 6: Well, we'd send him one night and he said, bro,
Speaker 6: this went on there.
Speaker 4: Fuck the main guy up.
Speaker 6: They made me go fight with him too.
Speaker 8: Crazy cauld he find the same guard, and we watched
Speaker 8: that table all the time, the shooto the table and
Speaker 8: it was so tight, and he was that.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know he were any to tell me
Speaker 6: all that.
Speaker 1: Man, that was crazy. We were young, they're been on
Speaker 1: a plane. They invited me to fight the number two
Speaker 1: ranked fighter in the world.
Speaker 6: They told me how scared he was going across.
Speaker 2: I said, no, I was gonna. I went with him
Speaker 2: a couple of times, but I was. I regretted it.
Speaker 2: I said down like I thought you wanted to be.
Speaker 2: I was scared to go to Japan.
Speaker 6: I don't even think I started yet, dude, I was,
Speaker 6: I was you.
Speaker 4: We were so scared, bro, neither one of either one
Speaker 4: of us have been on a plane.
Speaker 6: You weren't even fighting over there yet.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I chose like I made the
Speaker 2: wrong choice, You know, I made the wrong choice.
Speaker 6: I could be in Japan. I could have been like
Speaker 6: a real ninja, but I'm here. I need to get
Speaker 6: over there. What the I'm doing?
Speaker 7: Yeah it was, But I remember you did soccer?
Speaker 4: Remember that two in the world.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't go down back with
Speaker 8: that same house song, right, I remember that too. I
Speaker 8: watched that fight, Like, but I watched that fight like
Speaker 8: hundreds of time.
Speaker 6: You know, back in the day you have fucking four
Speaker 6: mm a tape, so you just watch them over and over.
Speaker 6: Bro watched that and Nick when he fought the dude dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 6: I forget that guy, name that guy and that song. Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: no no.
Speaker 8: Nick fought the same card though as Jake, and we
Speaker 8: watched that tape all the time.
Speaker 6: Nick fight Jake and then he ran over.
Speaker 1: So people always ask me, like, what's your favorite fight?
Speaker 1: I say that time people are like who, They've never
Speaker 1: heard of him? But at the time, like I was
Speaker 1: a superstar in Japan. That was like such a big
Speaker 1: moment for me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was huge.
Speaker 4: I remember that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you were there to.
Speaker 4: Lose, exactly. I went there to lose. Back there.
Speaker 2: Probably you were there to know they flew you there
Speaker 2: to lose, is what I meant.
Speaker 1: You know, no one told you that you fought in
Speaker 1: Japan a couple of times, right name. I know Gil
Speaker 1: fought there a lot.
Speaker 8: I thought there, I thought there, yeah, I thought that
Speaker 8: maybe yeah, Nick be it was my second fight and
Speaker 8: I fucking fought the guy Nick b and pancras and
Speaker 8: I foughtow I.
Speaker 6: Lost the decision, and we went and saw, Uh, we
Speaker 6: hopped in a fucking train. We gotta fight. After the
Speaker 6: fight too, we got brushing down rapunk. It was fucking insane.
Speaker 8: I got busted in my busted eye and split everywhere
Speaker 8: like I was only fucking And then the next day
Speaker 8: we fucking got tickets to Pride was the next Yeah,
Speaker 8: Pride was the next day and uh and uh the
Speaker 8: Pancraves got us tickets and so we hopped on the
Speaker 8: train and we took a train over the Pride and
Speaker 8: we saw Merco Cocop fight fad Or Yeah, Thomas quite.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. And I was there with a big old
Speaker 6: busted eye and I had a and we gotta fight.
Speaker 8: After I had got sitters. I had gone to fight
Speaker 8: and I got busted in my big as. I was
Speaker 8: blood squirted everywhere.
Speaker 6: I was like that may were bunting over the Citi Show.
Speaker 6: I was walking with the uh white town from the hotel,
Speaker 6: dabbing my eye on that jobs were looking at me
Speaker 6: like what the hell happened? I'm going to train people
Speaker 6: like what this got? We had and we're Pride watching
Speaker 6: is awesome?
Speaker 2: How my Yeah, that's a I. I didn't know that, man,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I remember watching that fucking couple
Speaker 2: of out do have the whole card?
Speaker 6: Was it? Though?
Speaker 8: I can't remember the whole card, but I think I
Speaker 8: will start over and was on their showgun.
Speaker 6: Oh that she was god bro. We were on the floor, yeah,
Speaker 6: said Tama.
Speaker 2: Super fought here once.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I gotta fight on the car with or once and
Speaker 3: everything like that too, and do you mark hunt on there?
Speaker 3: And uh, I gotta fight a Seeta guys know if yeah,
Speaker 3: I actually fight Prideido against so Ba.
Speaker 6: We fighting Canada that yeah, no, I remember when that was.
Speaker 3: That that was we had sixty second or ninety second rest.
Speaker 3: I remember like Nate was coaching me. He like slapped
Speaker 3: me in the face.
Speaker 6: Fuck you, like I wake the fuck up.
Speaker 8: I said that.
Speaker 6: I needed it.
Speaker 2: Though Chris Vera was there. I think you had a
Speaker 2: fight coming.
Speaker 6: Out and they did that to me, the budget of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I loved it.
Speaker 7: It was good.
Speaker 3: It was ten in around right there. And then I
Speaker 3: thought a sheet over there, it's in Goku, so I
Speaker 3: thought private sheeto. But not eventually Pride.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been in so many fighters, both in and
Speaker 4: out of the cage.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know.
Speaker 8: I don't remember that, but my brother did that to me,
Speaker 8: so he getting credit because you can see it when
Speaker 8: it's time when you need that to hear that too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I wake wake up, and now I'm like,
Speaker 6: nicebout it and I wake up. Get the funk up.
Speaker 6: You better get trashed with you know anyways, you're you.
Speaker 4: Missed out in the fun we had in Thailand.
Speaker 6: No, I know, man.
Speaker 1: After that, I'm like, I need to stop getting in fights.
Speaker 1: We've been getting in fights for so many years, but
Speaker 1: it's just hard. All these guys always testing them.
Speaker 3: So it's like, uh, yes, yeah, I got a tell
Speaker 3: one of my mess street fight stories. Then with Jake Shields, right,
Speaker 3: I remember being with Jake Shields.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: We were going to a club called the Starlight Room.
Speaker 3: It was a bar up stop and when we go
Speaker 3: to side room, I think we're having fun all day.
Speaker 3: We were probably like doing some day party stuff and
Speaker 3: it was me and you and talkies and we were
Speaker 3: walking by and there's these two guys, big old yoke
Speaker 3: dudes with their girls walking I think.
Speaker 2: We smiled at him.
Speaker 3: We're probably like kind of like you know, we went
Speaker 3: around the corner San Franciscos. Yeah, right, find the Starlight
Speaker 3: room right there. Me and Talkies are down in the bottom.
Speaker 3: These two guys come running up, big old' buff guy's yoke.
Speaker 6: They're like, what what, what's up?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: And they try to fight us, but they didn't know
Speaker 3: that Jake was with us, and he was walking with
Speaker 3: the girl behind us.
Speaker 2: So these guys sware up.
Speaker 3: There were a huge yoke, probably like two thirty two
Speaker 3: forty two big guys, and all of a sudden, Jake
Speaker 3: just reared nanked chokes one of them.
Speaker 2: Wow, and he got some.
Speaker 3: I smack one of them five and then Talkies you know,
Speaker 3: runs in a double leg talking them over.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he grabbed, he jumped in, dude, security man.
Speaker 2: The guy punched me, dude, and they and then the
Speaker 2: guy was like he was passed out.
Speaker 3: Jake on the floor laid back on it and everything.
Speaker 3: Dude and I and then the guy you know was
Speaker 3: out there. Yeah, we got a little bit more of
Speaker 3: a scuffle. He woke up and then you know, you
Speaker 3: told him I could have killed you, you know, but
Speaker 3: he was all pumped him.
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was a long story.
Speaker 6: You call me.
Speaker 4: I remember that.
Speaker 1: I'm just I was always more protective of my friends
Speaker 1: and myself. Someone talks it to me, I'm like, whatever
Speaker 1: they talked ship to you guys, I'm like, well that
Speaker 1: was why he got a fighting fucking thailand his mouth
Speaker 1: and off to night like fucking can't keep talking.
Speaker 8: I don't kind of condone fighting, but when when you
Speaker 8: when there's a friend fight, there.
Speaker 6: Better than that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my friend, thank you.
Speaker 8: I ain't trying to find nobody, but you know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying, when when they did happen and then union
Speaker 8: friend become more friends?
Speaker 6: Yo, boom, I know I got to you got me.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Know, we look out for each other.
Speaker 2: I lost friends like that. I'm going you know from.
Speaker 1: Time I got like jump beat ups, Like what am
Speaker 1: I supposed to do? I'm like, good, jump with me,
Speaker 1: you buzzy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, no ship. Maybe though sometimes you scrap, you
Speaker 4: can win, you better.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I feel better at getting fucked up, not help.
Speaker 4: So what's up?
Speaker 6: Gil?
Speaker 4: Anybody come out of retirement? Man?
Speaker 3: You always you know, yeah of course, right, never retire,
Speaker 3: always stay ready, always in the gym.
Speaker 2: I love training. I love doing all that, and you know, you.
Speaker 3: See you got you know, you see Nate getting down,
Speaker 3: You see all the guys getting down, you see all
Speaker 3: the box and stuff. There's always I always want to
Speaker 3: be my optimal self, Jacob, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm always training. I'm trying to be the best version.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe not the best ever, our best, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to be the best version of myself makes me
Speaker 3: better on the outside, in the in the world world.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, man, I'm always ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then when you would like to fight in Nate
Speaker 1: or just whoever's ready, I'm to fight in. The fans
Speaker 1: are always asking for you versus Connor three. But I
Speaker 1: don't know you you don't want to pay for some reason,
Speaker 1: the cough that money up.
Speaker 6: Now, I'm sure it all work out. I'm just sucking up, you.
Speaker 2: Know, you kidding?
Speaker 4: Box up.
Speaker 1: That's like the super fight that everyone wants to see.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, there's always lots of good options boxing.
Speaker 1: You'll see either way they're.
Speaker 8: Talking about how like we're talking about what was your
Speaker 8: best fight, and they always say sock Ryan Ship, And
Speaker 8: I was like, I'm always like, uh, there's different cause they.
Speaker 6: Want to set ask me out. Then Connor McGregor.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, I'm like, bro, settle down,
Speaker 8: because Connor McGrady was a huge fight we want to
Speaker 8: get in my career. But it's like there's just different fights.
Speaker 8: It's timeline exactly. It's like a timeline. I'm like, well, bro,
Speaker 8: that was the biggest ship when I cowboy and you
Speaker 8: bitch like that, Like that was like fighting a guy
Speaker 8: that I thought, I'm like, you are looking at this
Speaker 8: bitch ass motherfucker. No, you know what I'm saying, I've
Speaker 8: been here woo woo, because the new thing coming from
Speaker 8: the w ship should be his asked like what's up?
Speaker 8: And that to me felt like a baby Peter for timeline, well,
Speaker 8: like you know what I'm saying. And then plus I
Speaker 8: fight talking Tori Gom and Gomy was like the goat
Speaker 8: when I was fucking kicking off, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It was like gom and bj pen you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 8: And then BJ Folman that just fucking that's the dope
Speaker 8: shit because then that's what I try to do, is
Speaker 8: what he did was from on the rock. He's like,
Speaker 8: I can't do this issue and I want some bigger
Speaker 8: than that, something bad, better than that. But it's like
Speaker 8: there's nothing better than inside because you're inside and out. Okay,
Speaker 8: this is biggest sit down and shut up type of thing.
Speaker 8: So it's like you gotta go out there and make
Speaker 8: some noise and by but you need tango partners and
Speaker 8: people out there. They're fucking so I understand that looking
Speaker 8: at that back then Donald throni's a new thing coming in.
Speaker 6: Well, something's coming in.
Speaker 8: It was popping it and then it takes two to tangos.
Speaker 8: So then when you beat those motherfuckers like point made
Speaker 8: whatever it is, even if they don't understand that, I
Speaker 8: feel my points made, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 8: that's the checking the timeline and the other big moments
Speaker 8: like I go me, I mean and you guys too,
Speaker 8: I'm sure you feel the same way. Have done this
Speaker 8: and then that, and then I did that by say,
Speaker 8: so there's no biggest fight, there's just bigger when they're
Speaker 8: all the biggest.
Speaker 6: And one way for y'all, Connor, then you know what I.
Speaker 11: Like.
Speaker 6: But but for me, though, like beating gmmy, that was.
Speaker 8: The scariest fight of my life and that's why it happened.
Speaker 8: So perfect for me, not to he's older and not peaking,
Speaker 8: like because I watched him.
Speaker 6: I based a lot of my fighting off the him.
Speaker 8: I'm like, bro, Ship, you're the guy, and now I
Speaker 8: find you and Nick fucking you're really mad at me.
Speaker 6: I'm like Gottel problem.
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Speaker 6: I'm having a hard time sleep in the net.
Speaker 8: You might just get fucked up because of that, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. So it's better when they want
Speaker 8: you and not sleep when that And like someone on
Speaker 8: the dunk ship and people though ship look good bringing nigga.
Speaker 10: Ship.
Speaker 2: Remember he like tried to give you the fingers at
Speaker 2: the beach my.
Speaker 8: Second round, I'm like and I'm like, use little bit,
Speaker 8: I already know I could get sucked up, and.
Speaker 6: You're just like, I'm gonna nigga, I'm gonna beat your
Speaker 6: ass if you don't funk me up.
Speaker 4: That that was an epic fight fight.
Speaker 6: But so that's a big one.
Speaker 8: And then uh go me and then uh like just
Speaker 8: different stages when I went like different times. I didn't
Speaker 8: remind you of the years and ship Okay those years.
Speaker 6: I was doing this and I was I gotta do
Speaker 6: that again.
Speaker 4: That was one of those help remember Gilbert versus Diego Sanchez.
Speaker 4: That was dope chunked it.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I had a crazy or ship thoes
Speaker 6: that And then that was like.
Speaker 8: When you Jerry's ass, bro that time. Oh that was
Speaker 8: a tight ass fight, dude, that's a tight fight. I
Speaker 8: watched a lot of that fight. I watched that fight
Speaker 8: so many times.
Speaker 2: But to your point, and it's like big to the audience.
Speaker 3: Like, I know my Diego fight had an impact on
Speaker 3: the whole world, but I look back, you know, like
Speaker 3: my fight with Josh Sampson too is way more important.
Speaker 3: You know, my fight with Kyle Jerry and Japan was
Speaker 3: way more important at that time, you know. But the
Speaker 3: one that resonates happened to be different. But those were
Speaker 3: also making fights for me though, you know.
Speaker 6: Changing you You're like, that's what I'm talking about. Was
Speaker 6: the moment I needed now, motherfuckers, you know what, I know.
Speaker 1: What to what builds up, what gives us the confidence
Speaker 1: and sometimes, yeah, the fans aren't seeing these massive fights
Speaker 1: like Rumbling the Rock for me is a good example.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like on big TV, but it was such
Speaker 1: massive fights. Three three fights, all big fights. What Carlos
Speaker 1: Kan did, Dave Maney Economy.
Speaker 8: So for me though, usp too though, because I thought,
Speaker 8: you beat GSP, but you're never gonna win that fight.
Speaker 6: I thought to beat fucking Polo. I might, I might
Speaker 6: go ahead and do it because you're running the game.
Speaker 6: But guess who's still gonna be here? Mean motherfuckers, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna be here to.
Speaker 8: Beat your ass at some point, so you gotta come
Speaker 8: within a time time him and.
Speaker 6: Other people too. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Isn't Jake Paul fighting in a boxer soon like uh Davis?
Speaker 8: And they don't really do the punch counters and ship
Speaker 8: the punch counters like you them just being a punch count.
Speaker 6: And people will be like you're you locked all they
Speaker 6: remembers you locked.
Speaker 8: I'm like, go watch it right now, go watch it
Speaker 8: count yourself. Okay, we ain't gonna bring it up because
Speaker 8: those ships.
Speaker 6: Okay we won't.
Speaker 1: Let's so you know, go look, the punch counters a
Speaker 1: complete bullsh It's just some random guy pushing it. And
Speaker 1: then the announcers can.
Speaker 6: But get it right, you know where else you know
Speaker 6: when you're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Sometimes announcers are so off, like watch me and Robbiel
Speaker 1: with no sound and with a sound like I pick
Speaker 1: them apart.
Speaker 4: But if you listen to announcers, oh my god, destroy them.
Speaker 6: I showed people that fight for examples all the time. Man,
Speaker 6: I'm gonn announce.
Speaker 4: You're talking about you guys?
Speaker 6: Think be done? Yeah, bad watching Jake and funk up
Speaker 6: right all you five seconds. I don't know how man
Speaker 6: you were, but that was a great fight for me
Speaker 6: to watch. Whatever. Yeah the man James man like Robbie
Speaker 6: like him. Yeah, Robbie's man for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a really good left kick, Jake, left
Speaker 3: kicks to the head, some slapping, some kicks.
Speaker 2: You were controlling everything and.
Speaker 6: All the fights like that, dude, like my fights with
Speaker 6: a few people. I only want to say and then
Speaker 6: going to help him like that.
Speaker 8: But it's like Broy McDonald and that fight was fucking
Speaker 8: even I got sucked up and I swam.
Speaker 6: I didn't get sucked up. I just fucking looked bad.
Speaker 8: But but if you watch that fight even I'm about
Speaker 8: to win any man, I got tired. I was knew
Speaker 8: I finally with seventy two. I tried to be stronger
Speaker 8: than him when he tired. I've never been tired of
Speaker 8: the fight beside that. And uh, I didn't train for
Speaker 8: I was drunk that day.
Speaker 2: I was du seventies for you and I was drunk.
Speaker 6: My bad.
Speaker 4: That was that place was fun.
Speaker 6: I wasn't. Yeah, I don't bit.
Speaker 4: You're right. Yeah, yeah, it's a big fucker trying to
Speaker 4: no problem with you. But last we had wired about
Speaker 4: hit vacation and the last thoughts.
Speaker 3: No nothing, man, just good hanging out with the boys
Speaker 3: out here. This is a lot of where the history
Speaker 3: went down. So it's good to be here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I know, like we're doing a lot of wha, let's
Speaker 8: get some blue belts in.
Speaker 4: Some filming. F some people up. We're not gonna get
Speaker 4: a fight tonight, but we'll get the boys together.
Speaker 8: I saw I saw Jake one time training and fucking
Speaker 8: dipping Ben asking all over the fucking match.
Speaker 6: I'm like, why are they arrested the Olympics. I didn't
Speaker 6: even know who he remember that.
Speaker 4: We used to always try that easy too, we traveled it.
Speaker 6: Yeah easy dude. But I saw you taking him down
Speaker 6: and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4: He's the best wrestlers. Like he's pulling off, but I'm
Speaker 4: taking his ass down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw you that. What's happening. We used to
Speaker 6: have the.
Speaker 1: Everywhere went we storm in the gym and it was
Speaker 1: like serious, it's like fight time we traveled, we're still fighting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's no offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he's uh, he had some health issues.
Speaker 4: I think he's doing a lot better. I think he's
Speaker 4: doing way better though he had like a transplant. So yeah,
Speaker 4: thats go. Well, thanks for coming on this. We'll help
Speaker 4: back sometime soon.
Speaker 6: Let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Since this is such a short interview, I
Speaker 1: also decided to attach the question answer that me and
Speaker 1: the Diaz just did it a private seminar at Matt
Speaker 1: Sarah's gym.
Speaker 4: So enjoyed.
Speaker 10: Right now, we're gonna do a little QA.
Speaker 1: We got them here.
Speaker 7: No, we taught these questions, no politics. Let's keep it fun.
Speaker 7: But at some questions.
Speaker 5: Got a couple of legends in the room.
Speaker 10: Let's ask question for a confident Yeah, you guys get.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll get you questions, but we'll avoid politics. Personal
Speaker 7: questions and retired questions are fine. Get comfortable, right, un't
Speaker 7: I be like each other?
Speaker 4: Come in?
Speaker 7: You guys are all scared. D you squeeze and squeeze in?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just like basically jiu jitsu questions by questions,
Speaker 1: live questions like I can be a life coach.
Speaker 7: I know you guys got some questions. Yeah, what exercises
Speaker 7: or muscle groups are you trying to strengthen? To strengthen
Speaker 7: your choke strength? I like girls go by seven girls back,
Speaker 7: allow back. That's really important for the jiu jitsu. Think
Speaker 7: really you want to kind of do everything you want
Speaker 7: to like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pull ups are great. You went all around strings
Speaker 1: for jiu jitsu. Honestly, push up pull ups. I don't
Speaker 1: know push us greatnesses for topy, but they're great thing
Speaker 1: to do. You know, time to pull ups, like curls,
Speaker 1: like squats, maybe cardio cardio running, I think is the
Speaker 1: best thing you could do. You know, my knees a
Speaker 1: little messed up now, So if you're not rowing, you
Speaker 1: could do like assault bikes or.
Speaker 4: But running right?
Speaker 5: Hey do you played?
Speaker 7: Really it sucks, but that's the answer.
Speaker 10: Really want that swimming too?
Speaker 5: You want to swimmings? Get I sink?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: We were in Thailand and then after we fought those chests.
Speaker 1: We were out those monkeys like punk me like five
Speaker 1: years of boiling by myself, and the guy told us
Speaker 1: how to go and tried to swimming out there.
Speaker 7: This motherfucker could swim so good trying to get these monkeys,
Speaker 7: and I ass almost drowned.
Speaker 12: We didn't even make it.
Speaker 6: To the monkeys.
Speaker 4: They had.
Speaker 7: One of the guys that they had there.
Speaker 4: The guy was telling me to tie some kind of fucking.
Speaker 7: Steam rays or something that was I saw know what
Speaker 7: they are. He was, no, Sei, you can't go, you
Speaker 7: can't go. But we got all fucked up.
Speaker 5: We're all free.
Speaker 7: So we didn't even make it to get paid back
Speaker 7: on the monkeys.
Speaker 6: We tried.
Speaker 7: We tried Steve Pools. I went almost drowned. That was
Speaker 7: that was the point of my story.
Speaker 1: But He's just swimming fucking back like a pro, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking, oh fuck do battle all tired drink
Speaker 1: all day?
Speaker 5: He was what the fuck you guys gets Christmas with us?
Speaker 7: To rit Chris had her back to He's like, fuckers
Speaker 7: can swim. They took off, like, were you guys like
Speaker 7: swim team or what? You don't think those monkeys arena
Speaker 7: like eat your face.
Speaker 1: Like monkeys up, back up, like a true story, like
Speaker 1: ten years before.
Speaker 7: I'm walking into Thailand holding like a soda or something.
Speaker 1: This monkey runs up to me and swats it out
Speaker 1: of my hand and starts like hollering at me, like
Speaker 1: ten monkeys pinding, and they're.
Speaker 7: Like, hey, get it on.
Speaker 10: I had my friend.
Speaker 1: My friend darted and I'm just sitting there faced off
Speaker 1: this monkey for like thinking about your fighter.
Speaker 10: So I'm like I got back up.
Speaker 13: Now they'd have a back.
Speaker 6: That was not the island.
Speaker 10: It was the island over.
Speaker 7: Already gotten with those of you guys. But I got pumps.
Speaker 5: How many monkeys do you think you could fight up once?
Speaker 10: How big.
Speaker 1: Were actually the ones that challenged me were pretty fucking
Speaker 1: big to take like three, they were a good size.
Speaker 1: They were kind of meane. One bally like attacked my
Speaker 1: girl and like bitter, I ran and like kicked the
Speaker 1: thing in the head. Went flying people looking like an
Speaker 1: asshole kicked a monkey. It was attacking my girl.
Speaker 7: She had raby shots. Yeah, I was like thousands of
Speaker 7: dollars and it was like I ran, just booted the monkey.
Speaker 7: Wren an asshole, like fuck that monkey up. Monkeys they're
Speaker 7: not always.
Speaker 14: Cool when you're when you're on like the praterst stages
Speaker 14: and you guys have been in you know, main events,
Speaker 14: title fights when you're in the back, like what coars
Speaker 14: were your.
Speaker 15: Head not nerus at all, just regular to day good
Speaker 15: question better not this one? Yeah, Like it's.
Speaker 1: Man, that's a tough question. It's you want to just
Speaker 1: stay relaxed. You want to think about the fight. You
Speaker 1: don't want to overthink about it. I tried to never
Speaker 1: let like bad emotions, like the five losing is not
Speaker 1: a possibility, and you want to be nice and calm
Speaker 1: and clear. There's a there's times you walk out and
Speaker 1: you feel good, but there's times when your head's like
Speaker 1: scattered and that sucks.
Speaker 7: Have you ever had that? You're walking out feeling like
Speaker 7: your mind's not quite focused?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: It's or both of you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, getting your mentals is important as the shape
Speaker 11: you're in. You know, if you if you got stuff
Speaker 11: going bit at home or if you personal shi it's
Speaker 11: not right, you could it will carry.
Speaker 6: Over to the cage.
Speaker 4: No, you can tell.
Speaker 7: You can tell when you guys your corner sometimes, like
Speaker 7: you know, first conifile with the nay, like oh, you's
Speaker 7: fuck this dude up. I knew you were ready to
Speaker 7: go beat his fucking beat that fools up. It's kind
Speaker 7: of was a real fights the way you need to say, but.
Speaker 12: It was kind of like you talked to me all
Speaker 12: athleticism and the work kind of not even there.
Speaker 5: It's just like this guy, you're gonna fucking.
Speaker 12: Die or I'm not going to That's that's why I
Speaker 12: like will fight when it gets like.
Speaker 5: The whole sound sporty. I lose you.
Speaker 1: You broke that bitch. Someone sent me like the audio
Speaker 1: the whole second round. I didn't even go to aways talk.
Speaker 5: Shit to Connor.
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, ship, yeah, but I think it works
Speaker 7: a little bit. You're like, oh, you'll get a little bit.
Speaker 7: You're getting tired.
Speaker 4: Oh look at you.
Speaker 7: You're about to get broke. And you see him look
Speaker 7: over a couple times like fuck you.
Speaker 5: To embarrass me talking about money and ship and.
Speaker 7: Beat your eyes.
Speaker 5: Fantastic.
Speaker 10: What else game? What do you got showing you're talking
Speaker 10: of Christians? Question?
Speaker 7: What is your like shrimp and conditioning routine throughout the meet?
Speaker 5: How many times are you lifting.
Speaker 7: Now hour when I was fighting now hour? When I
Speaker 7: was fighting.
Speaker 1: Hockey that's it rotates a little bit. But I usually
Speaker 1: train jiu jitsu like six days a week. But that
Speaker 1: was like my staple. I would mix wrestling jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1: I would spar ben on twice a week, a lot
Speaker 1: of times, three times a week, trying to run a
Speaker 1: couple of times a week, lift like twice a week.
Speaker 1: We fucking tread hard, like we fucking the soldiers, like
Speaker 1: you spired almost every day.
Speaker 12: I would spar five days a week, and uh, I
Speaker 12: would grapple every day and run every week. And then
Speaker 12: I started doing more biking than swimming, so and then
Speaker 12: I would run three days a week or four days
Speaker 12: and wee bread if you don't get all that other cheat.
Speaker 12: I would run five days a week, I'd grapple five
Speaker 12: days a week.
Speaker 5: And I would.
Speaker 7: These guys think they can spar once a week, like.
Speaker 16: Just like jiu jitsu, like when you get your black belt,
Speaker 16: you don't did you get you every day? You just
Speaker 16: gotta touch that bitch up three days a beach and
Speaker 16: fix it. But if you're not a black bell, then
Speaker 16: you need to.
Speaker 17: Be in there every day and pat cause there's a
Speaker 17: lot of people would catch up and pass up and
Speaker 17: the people gaming on new dudes. You gotta be in
Speaker 17: there every day and then uh, once you master one,
Speaker 17: when then you just touch them fuckers up.
Speaker 5: Beat up the week, you know what.
Speaker 1: So when you go train like four hours, some days
Speaker 1: we'd meet well, well one session and we'd go train
Speaker 1: back at night.
Speaker 7: We'd beat up some nice three four hours and I'd.
Speaker 1: Go back and train night in San Francisco because he
Speaker 1: would drive like an hour stock and I'll drive an
Speaker 1: hour Chanprcisco to go meet one.
Speaker 12: One time, I'm in a boxing camp with the Underward
Speaker 12: for like three months and I was on point, and
Speaker 12: I would doing three days a week with this guy
Speaker 12: and he need to best boxing.
Speaker 7: One of the best.
Speaker 16: I'm sparring this dude every day, every day, every other day,
Speaker 16: and then one day I'm fun. I'm driving out to Oakland.
Speaker 5: And spark him and uh, it's a at ten o'clock.
Speaker 5: And then they hit me up and like, hey, we're
Speaker 5: trending that we're training at one. So like I'm just
Speaker 5: sitting go there after I trained here and uh, and
Speaker 5: I I went spartable board at ten o'clock and I
Speaker 5: and I got my shit and I smashed over there
Speaker 5: and They're.
Speaker 16: Like, we're sparring today, and uh uh I thought they
Speaker 16: were to k kick fine or mma spart with.
Speaker 5: Short guards in the glove. And then I was like,
Speaker 5: the motherfucker's going to spar with me right now. I'm
Speaker 5: one point right now.
Speaker 18: They should not be sparing with me, like if I
Speaker 18: had him thinking there and I and I've been cutting
Speaker 18: to boxing for they went with him and uh and
Speaker 18: I went and uh my r round room.
Speaker 5: With Jake, and then I was like, I wan't gonna
Speaker 5: do again. I started getting ready to punch with him,
Speaker 5: and these fool fucking kicks me like kick the leg,
Speaker 5: and I'm I'm gonna sock him. And then I I
Speaker 5: go to I go to soccer him and he kicks
Speaker 5: me again. He hits me three times and then grips me,
Speaker 5: and I just got my ask with me because I
Speaker 5: was just one dimensional boxing. But I remember that, and
Speaker 5: then then I refreshed my memory.
Speaker 12: I'm like, fucks, I don't care if you box, you
Speaker 12: better be doing all that shit or some of these
Speaker 12: I got a fucking he gets want.
Speaker 5: Me a park all break your box if and this
Speaker 5: ship you know that's off topic.
Speaker 7: I just thought it's good you know, but that's the
Speaker 7: good moments when you're over cocky.
Speaker 5: You know something. I'm watching Ward the Best is the best.
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm gonna box and day today and beat
Speaker 8: my ass off in the head more time because I
Speaker 8: was like switching out my legs now because just like
Speaker 8: in a one dimensional movie.
Speaker 7: No, that's why you gotta like train mma and these
Speaker 7: dudes they do it once a week.
Speaker 1: You gotta be sparring. We spar big gloves, small gloves.
Speaker 1: We switch it up, you know, like you can spar lighter.
Speaker 1: Some days you don't want to get your head beat in,
Speaker 1: but you gotta spar fucking You're not gonna get good
Speaker 1: or something if you're not doing it.
Speaker 7: A lot of these new generations kind of soften thing, you.
Speaker 11: Know, but it's gotta be monitored where you don't want
Speaker 11: them getting CTE. If it's to rock them, sop them,
Speaker 11: you know, towards they gotta know, you know, just like
Speaker 11: in jiu jitsu, you don't just put them with attack
Speaker 11: each other. No, you got the right sparing parts. Yeah,
Speaker 11: you can get in there a lot.
Speaker 7: It's really interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't think we none of us really hurt each
Speaker 1: other despite all the years, not serious injuries, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not how sparring.
Speaker 7: With Nick and Nick and Gil and we're like managed
Speaker 7: not like seriously hurt each other, and.
Speaker 5: We could fight and we went hard to do full
Speaker 5: on fighting. Dude, you know we we we went. We're
Speaker 5: just wearing my main left sitting there.
Speaker 7: It's amazing we're aboud to go hard and be good
Speaker 7: friends still each other.
Speaker 6: Yeah, some.
Speaker 2: What what was your why?
Speaker 7: And how has that changed as you become more accomplished
Speaker 7: in each of your careers? Like what your why?
Speaker 6: Like why we do it? Why you do it? Why
Speaker 6: you keep going that?
Speaker 7: Yeah? You know we weren't right back them, sure saying
Speaker 7: right we were?
Speaker 5: We were.
Speaker 4: We weren't.
Speaker 7: Okay, why we're doing that?
Speaker 4: Ship?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Somebody else do ship?
Speaker 4: You know, mm hmm Yeah.
Speaker 7: Back then it was fucking not a real sto.
Speaker 12: I was motivating for men to do something fighting something
Speaker 12: else I'm doing, and I wanted up doing them.
Speaker 16: And like we were fighting five three to five times
Speaker 16: the end, and so like I'd fight, and then Jake
Speaker 16: would fight, and then Gil would find and Nick would fight.
Speaker 16: So then as soon as you're then you're like, okay,
Speaker 16: I want to go help them, and they would they
Speaker 16: would be something like I want to fucking do something too.
Speaker 16: So it's like you rick the Shane off each other,
Speaker 16: and it's about a good thing we had.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a we had a great thing
Speaker 1: when we momentum him and him and Gill. So it
Speaker 1: was a perfect like a very friendly arrival with me
Speaker 1: and Nick and very friendly level. Like some of these
Speaker 1: fuckers saying would fight their friends, that's insane, like when
Speaker 1: we fight.
Speaker 5: The man Millard together.
Speaker 7: Brought up today the podcast because because well I went
Speaker 7: to Strike Force. Nick was the seventy pound champ, so
Speaker 7: it wasn't even discussion. I just came in eighty five.
Speaker 7: It's like there's no fight.
Speaker 1: It's like, shut the fuck up, idiot, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: fight Nick. It's so much whole thing. And people would
Speaker 1: ask like asking who went out of any brothers this
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, go fuck off, bro.
Speaker 11: Last type of stuff we talked about that there's no
Speaker 11: boyal to your code anymore, like but it's not all
Speaker 11: together dead.
Speaker 10: I mean you saw Morob and al Jael, you know.
Speaker 10: I mean it's still it's still a lot out there
Speaker 10: with certain people.
Speaker 7: Most people homes, you have layer.
Speaker 1: That's why we've always liked each other, you know, like
Speaker 1: I could see you have the real loyalty. We were
Speaker 1: like a cousin team and we're one of those gems
Speaker 1: that had true loyalty with each other.
Speaker 7: We're always you see.
Speaker 1: These gyms guys get jealous on someone else is getting
Speaker 1: more fun because we've all taken turns from one of
Speaker 1: us more famous than others. And you see these guys
Speaker 1: getting like jealous. But I was always so happy when
Speaker 1: my friends are getting paid and.
Speaker 5: Get yeah, And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 12: And you need to make you wanted something many to
Speaker 12: get any to be good for them with them, make
Speaker 12: them I got these look good like them mac Millan good.
Speaker 10: And you know who your friends are. After you fight,
Speaker 10: you you don't have something coming up, you're helping your friends.
Speaker 10: The guys who fight and then they don't have something
Speaker 10: coming up, you don't see them against.
Speaker 5: They able to fight again.
Speaker 4: So that's not you.
Speaker 7: They're such sure no loyalty. Those are the worst people ever, bro,
Speaker 7: They're not my friends. If they're you go and help
Speaker 7: no tram or fight and then you need help. Oh
Speaker 7: they're not in camp.
Speaker 1: So many guys do that if you're trying to get
Speaker 1: real loyalty in the team, you have to help your
Speaker 1: teammates out. It's not just about you you need Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's individual sport, but you need people to help get there.
Speaker 1: And I was very fortunate having Nate, Nick and Gil is,
Speaker 1: like they're always there from when I needed them. They
Speaker 1: would go a way out of their way, driving two
Speaker 1: hours to come beat me and need help.
Speaker 7: And but then we do the same. It's like not
Speaker 7: a lot of people are lucky to have that loyalty.
Speaker 7: But we were all, you know, young, poor kids, but
Speaker 7: we were all on a mission. We all knew we
Speaker 7: were gonna be world champions. No one else preaching us,
Speaker 7: but we knew we were gonna go out there and
Speaker 7: take shit over.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 10: Yeah you did what else?
Speaker 12: Guys?
Speaker 6: What do you got?
Speaker 1: Nick?
Speaker 13: You guys like approached a cage fight differently from like
Speaker 13: the street fight, Like of course you do, but like
Speaker 13: do instincts coming you just kind of like scrap.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's definitely a huge difference between.
Speaker 1: Streets and uh in cage fights, you know, people you
Speaker 1: don't want to go to the ground as much different angles.
Speaker 1: I like choking people out while on your feet. You
Speaker 1: have to be looking for weapons. If you're with friends,
Speaker 1: you have to learn to fight as a team.
Speaker 4: This is shit.
Speaker 7: We don't do anymore well, fucking unfortunately, still do.
Speaker 8: I have a tid.
Speaker 7: I'm like, God, damn it, I gotta stop getting as well.
Speaker 1: My dumb ass fucking had this fucking punch of that
Speaker 1: fucking chesch in dude, and like thirty Chestion in judge up.
Speaker 10: Men, did you guys have any problems with them?
Speaker 5: Like Stien, you're selling.
Speaker 7: Thailand some shady ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went there. We're behind the new lines, these
Speaker 5: guys say this. So we started our vacation about thirty
Speaker 5: minutes in the film. We're all in Thailand. Now let's go.
Speaker 5: Let's go to Thailand and fuck this show.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We literally got off a plane. We're trying to rush
Speaker 1: a straight to film and they were like, relash, when
Speaker 1: we need to go back, shower show up for a second.
Speaker 1: So we went to after an hour. As soon as
Speaker 1: we get there to start slapping the driver I think
Speaker 1: because he was like late, but it was our fault
Speaker 1: and this detension.
Speaker 7: Right away, were like, oh fuck.
Speaker 4: It looks shy.
Speaker 10: They looked shad and that I was going up to
Speaker 10: you when he's trying to he deserved to get They do.
Speaker 7: Little things like sit down, sit down, like Punky's like, no,
Speaker 7: brom' sit down. We're getting the back of my bike.
Speaker 7: I say no, I'm not getting the back of your bikes.
Speaker 7: They do like little light things trying to punk you.
Speaker 5: Passive granted, better to get out of there before. That
Speaker 5: was a fun trip.
Speaker 1: It was yakay, like one hundred Chuchans and whatever some monkeys.
Speaker 7: Hong Kong. Hong Kong was dope.
Speaker 5: Hong Kong was way cool.
Speaker 7: You got paid vacation dope. She got mad favorite UFC
Speaker 7: fight for both of you, guys, But we were in
Speaker 7: he just or overall to watch that you were in.
Speaker 7: I don't know UFCU tars overall fight my price.
Speaker 1: Probably not in the USC, you might be half to
Speaker 1: a soccer ride because he was number two in the world.
Speaker 7: Now was unknown get Hanerson.
Speaker 1: Maybe not us in the USC, you know, I lost
Speaker 1: maybe GSP because sixty thousand people there.
Speaker 7: Just that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Arenas to futher too, it was a crazy experience, you
Speaker 1: know out right here keeping up for Matt guy.
Speaker 7: That oh yeah, that was that was epic. You guys,
Speaker 7: are the best.
Speaker 10: Hey, what else we got anything else? Oh Freddie where
Speaker 10: we got warned.
Speaker 7: Will be your best advice and fighters today. Yeah, you
Speaker 7: better like make sure you actually want to do it,
Speaker 7: and if you do, you gotta go all in.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be like the that's gotta be your top
Speaker 1: priority of everything else, Like nothing else matters when you
Speaker 1: gotta fight coming like everything else becomes like noise in
Speaker 1: the background. You know, I was gonna get a friends' weddings, birthdays.
Speaker 1: You gotta be selfish exactly if you're not being telling
Speaker 1: about your friends, don't understand that they're not your friends.
Speaker 7: You know, like, no, I'm not going to your body.
Speaker 7: I'm training for a fight. No I'm not going to
Speaker 7: your birthday thing. No I'm not like you gotta be
Speaker 7: later focus if that's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 11: When I was still fighting, my wife would take my
Speaker 11: young kids over to my inlaws folk the month before
Speaker 11: six weeks, you know, just so I sleep.
Speaker 7: They were young.
Speaker 11: So you gotta if you gotta be a little selfish,
Speaker 11: and those those around you gotta understand that, and they
Speaker 11: usually they know what you're getting ready for.
Speaker 7: They will if they don't, they're not your friends exactly.
Speaker 10: Guys, we're gonna be a picture in the second. Oh
Speaker 10: what you got, Mikey? You thought they thought it was tight.
Speaker 7: Gappy, looking for a challenge.
Speaker 10: We're friends here in a while.
Speaker 5: No, it's Mikey.
Speaker 7: Yeah, free at the White House.
Speaker 5: We're going for it.
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, let's get a group picture.
Speaker 6: What you got?
Speaker 13: So you guys are like all champions and like you've
Speaker 13: been there, done that, and then like you have to
Speaker 13: deal with like losing that too, like everybody here, like
Speaker 13: we're not luckily champions like you guys, but I'm sure
Speaker 13: everybody here is a champion somewhere or another, and like
Speaker 13: it's gonna be fall off and you know, we're just
Speaker 13: working on to five careers.
Speaker 6: How do you guys?
Speaker 5: Do you guys like any advice for like picking yourself
Speaker 5: back up?
Speaker 7: And it's like, yeah, I was up here, now I'm
Speaker 7: kind of going down. And then they say life goes
Speaker 7: up and down all the time.
Speaker 1: We were talking about that in the podcast, kind of
Speaker 1: the walking and fighting, Uh, get focused on something else.
Speaker 7: For me, I just focused on different.
Speaker 1: Things after I tired of fighting, because it's it's tough
Speaker 1: walking away from you know, being like, oh, a superstar
Speaker 1: fighter to now you got to go out and try
Speaker 1: to go in the normal world.
Speaker 7: And I just for me, it's like find it, you know,
Speaker 7: a project to work on or I know it's not
Speaker 7: easy to try to find a job that you enjoy somewhat.
Speaker 13: So like what like what about just like down, say
Speaker 13: so like before you when you just dealt with a loss,
Speaker 13: how did you come back from that loss?
Speaker 5: And like, no, I still got this.
Speaker 7: Like I'm like earlier in your career loss, I would
Speaker 7: just go right back to the gym. Yeah, just right
Speaker 7: back to training. You know it hurts, but you have to,
Speaker 7: like you can't let it just like devastate you.
Speaker 1: The point you basically gotta just keep moving forwards and
Speaker 1: keep grinding, grinding, grinding, just always.
Speaker 7: You know you can't it should bother you, but I
Speaker 7: can't bother you. The point where you're not right back training,
Speaker 7: Its just piss you off, make you want to train harder.
Speaker 10: When you get your ass kicked, the best way to
Speaker 10: get over it is to kick someone else. My second
Speaker 10: final loss and it was like my record already fuck.
Speaker 8: All right, well now I just got it ten wins
Speaker 8: to wear out so no one will see that and win.
Speaker 5: Then I win a couple lost another like now I
Speaker 5: gotta get ten more.
Speaker 12: And so I just get back to it and keep grinding,
Speaker 12: because Wena you sit there and crying about it.
Speaker 19: The worst thing to keep on keeping on the worst
Speaker 19: thing you do is to sit there. You know you've
Speaker 19: got to keep working toward your goals and run far.
Speaker 19: I'll get your mind right, guys. One more, let's hear
Speaker 19: it from
Speaker 7: M.