Speaker 1: You know, I had a start planned for this where
Speaker 1: I was going to make fun of you that, now
Speaker 1: that you don't work at Woodward anymore, where you big
Speaker 1: timed areties on Tuesdays on my show because you were
Speaker 1: too fancy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I even made a comment about it in the nine
Speaker 1: o'clock hour of my.
Speaker 2: Tuesday show, that you were too big today. I did.
Speaker 1: I did. That's actually how I started the Wednesday show.
Speaker 1: I said, Actually, it's not the bulky's too big. It'said
Speaker 1: I'm too illiterate too.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's not a literate it's just just ignorant, or
Speaker 2: maybe more maybe it's a technical problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I was. I was sitting there in
Speaker 1: the movie scrolling through texts I missed. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: son of a bitch, there was. It is not It's
Speaker 1: not even like it was during the segment. It was
Speaker 1: literally sixty seconds after I sent you the text, right immediate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was ready for it, and then like
Speaker 2: you didn't, I honestly forgot about it, and then you
Speaker 2: didn't call it. And then I tuned in at like
Speaker 2: five to nine, and I think it was on a break. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you're on a break, I'm like Okay, well, something
Speaker 2: obviously happened.
Speaker 1: So well, my normal host is a co host on
Speaker 1: the eight thirty segment from w BA Y who normally
Speaker 1: runs a little shorter because she has obligations. Aisha Morales
Speaker 1: couldn't make it. Her dog actually tore her ACL so
Speaker 1: she was an e vet. I know, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know dogs had acls. I'm gonna be honest, but so
Speaker 1: I had landed more. He and I just talked for hours,
Speaker 1: So I was like, is bulky here or not? I
Speaker 1: was gonna cut it off. I was like, well, he
Speaker 1: didn't text, so I guess, but no, he did text
Speaker 1: here we are? And what did he text about? What movie?
Speaker 1: Did he text about? Anaconda twenty twenty five. That's when
Speaker 1: I realized when he was there, and I gotta say,
Speaker 1: I am, this is gonna be It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: two halves of my brain or doing a review here,
Speaker 1: because there were things Paul Rudd and Jack Black are very,
Speaker 1: very charming and entertaining individuals. Did I think cover up
Speaker 1: a lot of holes in this movie? Okay, being honest, well,
Speaker 1: what are your initial thoughts?
Speaker 2: Well, so I didn't know what I was getting into.
Speaker 2: Number one, I didn't, did you feel like you needed
Speaker 2: to go back and watch the original Anaconda.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I think you might be closer
Speaker 1: in age to Jack Black and Paul Rudd than I am.
Speaker 1: I was like nine or ten years old when the
Speaker 1: movie came out. I rented it once and immediately made
Speaker 1: my parents go and buy me the VHS and I
Speaker 1: watched it a thousand times, like I thought it was
Speaker 1: the best thing. So when I was nine years old,
Speaker 1: was terrifying. Big giant snake looks so real at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good causs. So like, if you wanted, I could do
Speaker 1: the movie line for line for you right now.
Speaker 2: If you need aspress.
Speaker 1: Just like the characters when they're quoting John Boyd. I
Speaker 1: was I could have been there with them saying John
Speaker 1: Boyd's lines.
Speaker 2: So I was hurt. I was. I read that this
Speaker 2: was described as a meta sequel, which is a word
Speaker 2: I'd never heard before, but it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. So anything meta screen Cabin in
Speaker 1: the Woods, meta narratives oftentimes do hit me. And like
Speaker 1: when You're when You're seven Psychopaths is a great example.
Speaker 1: Whereas they're writing the script, the script is happening in
Speaker 1: the movie, and it's like that, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: what they play on with this in a way that
Speaker 1: I found to be not original but fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I so there is that, and then you know
Speaker 2: what else I got in the second half of it. Well, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll bring this up later, but let's talk about what
Speaker 2: Initially I thought I was gonna Paul Rudd, Jack Black
Speaker 2: forgot Steve's On was in it. Yeah, And and so
Speaker 2: initially I thought, well, this is gonna be a comedy.
Speaker 2: It's like a comedy whoror, but definitely more emphasis on
Speaker 2: the comedy, right. Didn't know anybody really else in the movie.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that was Tandy Newton in the trailer,
Speaker 2: which blew my mind, and I even like looked it
Speaker 2: up during the movie. I'm like, god, it that looks
Speaker 2: just like Tandy Newton, but she looks so so much younger,
Speaker 2: and sure enough it was her.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I like, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: her filmography now and I've seen almost every single one
Speaker 1: of these movies, and I guess she just doesn't register
Speaker 1: in my memory, so like, I don't know who this is.
Speaker 1: She did crash yep, Okay, Yeah, Mission Impossible to Westworld
Speaker 1: Norby that was and that was the last thing I
Speaker 1: remember her from was Westworld, and she looked much now.
Speaker 2: She played a much serious, much more serious character in
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 1: She's been acting since Interview with a Vampire, So she's
Speaker 1: been around.
Speaker 2: She's been around, and I think she's fifty three. I
Speaker 2: want to say something like that. Okay, yep, roughly, And
Speaker 2: I thought she was older than Paul Rudd and Jack
Speaker 2: Black and but no, it's right in the same wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so I'm expecting comedy or whatever, and then
Speaker 2: there's this kind of like a little bit of I.
Speaker 1: Know exactly what scene you're talking about.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, to kick it off the way that
Speaker 2: they set it up, Like the first ten fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stand by me ish stuff, you know.
Speaker 2: You know that they used to film these movies when
Speaker 2: they were kids or whatever, and obviously, like most people,
Speaker 2: their lives did not take them in a way that
Speaker 2: they expected or were hopeful of. So then I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, thirty minutes in, forty minutes in, and
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, I don't think this is going
Speaker 2: to turn out to be very good. And then an
Speaker 2: hour into it, I'm like, yeah, this is not good.
Speaker 2: I don't like this at all. I feel like this
Speaker 2: was not Jack Black. Okay, So I'm with you, man,
Speaker 2: I'm so Jack Black. I think when now I'm not
Speaker 2: a Kung Fu panda guy or whatever school of rock.
Speaker 2: I thought he was solid in and then Shallow Hell,
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I'm gonna get the Tropic Thunder in
Speaker 2: a second. That's, by the way, there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: couple of trap Tropic Thunder references. I have ye, Shallow
Speaker 2: Hell star right, and and I just feel like that
Speaker 2: does not suit him. I think he is he is
Speaker 2: best as a rebounder, and and he was more of
Speaker 2: a star in this movie as well.
Speaker 1: Example that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and so I think that in this flick viewing,
Speaker 2: you know, seeing how I've seen Jack Black act and
Speaker 2: the characters he's played in the past, I don't necessarily
Speaker 2: think he has the range to play the type of
Speaker 2: character he did in this movie. He had his moments, right, sure,
Speaker 2: but I don't think like, I mean, he was kind
Speaker 2: of you know what's funny about this is I read
Speaker 2: that Paul Rudd was signed on for this as the
Speaker 2: director of the film. He was going to be the
Speaker 2: director of The Anaconda twenty twenty five. Then they signed
Speaker 2: Jack Black and he read the script and he went
Speaker 2: to Paul Rudd and say, I think we should switch.
Speaker 2: I don't think I should be the star. I think
Speaker 2: you should be the star and I should be the director.
Speaker 2: And then they switched, okay, which I thought was kind
Speaker 2: of interesting. But for me, this was not You're you're
Speaker 2: kind of trying to think of a good example here
Speaker 2: for this. You're taking, like to borrow a sports term.
Speaker 2: You're you're taking a field flipper wide receiver, all the
Speaker 2: speed in the world, and you're sticking them in the
Speaker 2: slot and you're having him run these little hitches and
Speaker 2: intermediate routes. Right, You're not utilizing him to what he's
Speaker 2: best at. And there was some slapstick physical comedy with
Speaker 2: Jack Black in this, but I expected more. I think
Speaker 2: about Tropic Thunder Dude, yeah, or even High Fidelity, which
Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot more clips. Do you ever
Speaker 2: see High Fidelity? You know?
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 2: I Do you like that movie? John Cusack, Jack Black,
Speaker 2: Tim Robbins, It's good, Yeah, But I've been watching and
Speaker 2: he was so good in that movie too, but again
Speaker 2: he was a rebounder. He wasn't like the star and
Speaker 2: so I feel like they they asked him to do
Speaker 2: too much in this film, and maybe he wanted to
Speaker 2: too much, and I feel like that's was part of
Speaker 2: the letdown for me. And Paul Rudd was kind of
Speaker 2: like just this vanilla what do they call it, the
Speaker 2: non playing character and mpce it was kind of an NP.
Speaker 2: I just I don't it did nothing for me.
Speaker 1: Did you find the humor fell flat?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I thought the whole movie phil flat.
Speaker 2: There was just there's no and then okay, and I'll
Speaker 2: tell you this is the other thing too that ruined
Speaker 2: my expectations. I don't know how you feel about Saving Silverman,
Speaker 2: but this is a movie that came out in.
Speaker 1: Like I forgot, you know, I forgot that they that
Speaker 1: was a reunion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two thousand and one, roughly sure, and it was
Speaker 2: Steve Zon and Jack Black. Jason Biggs was the main
Speaker 2: character in that. But they were the two uh the kidnappers,
Speaker 2: the kidnapped and they were hilarious in that two thirds
Speaker 2: of this Neil Diamond cover band. It was awesome. And
Speaker 2: then uh so I see Steve's on in this, I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is gonna be great, right And it wasn't. And
Speaker 2: steves On's character I just felt like was never developed.
Speaker 2: He's buffalo sober, that was the funniest thing, with a
Speaker 2: lot of doubt. There's just there. There wasn't a whole
Speaker 2: lot of meat to this.
Speaker 1: He puts on a voice that I honest to god, balky.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there. I was in the theater googling
Speaker 1: if he had a stroke, like I wanted to see.
Speaker 1: Was this because of health reasons he's talking this way
Speaker 1: or because he thinks does he think this is a
Speaker 1: funny character. It turns out he thinks it's a funny
Speaker 1: character because he doesn't have any health issues. So he
Speaker 1: decided that that was the best way to deliver this character.
Speaker 1: I found him kind of painstaking. I found the delivery
Speaker 1: of all three characters. There was one time I left
Speaker 1: and I'm not even spoiling anything. Five minutes into the movie,
Speaker 1: they have a video that they made when they were kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they were gonna put it in the VCR to
Speaker 1: play it, and one of the moms in the room says,
Speaker 1: is they're cussing in there, and Paul Rudd goes, I
Speaker 1: don't give a shit. Let's put it in the only time.
Speaker 1: And it's not even like a joke, like it's just
Speaker 1: like the way he said it. It's not like there
Speaker 1: was a setup and a punchline. It was just And
Speaker 1: this is how I've been describing it to everybody who's
Speaker 1: been asking the whole film is carried if you could
Speaker 1: even say it was carried by the charm of the
Speaker 1: two leads, if it weren't for those two being cast,
Speaker 1: if this would have been an Anaconda reboot, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get two handsome, twenty five year old dudes that
Speaker 1: we don't know who they are to helm this movie.
Speaker 1: It does not make any money. It doubled its budget
Speaker 1: in the box office, so it's al really, it's ninety
Speaker 1: million in the first weekend it cost forty five, So
Speaker 1: I mean it's a success in terms of Hollywood standards.
Speaker 1: But to me and tell me if this is wrong.
Speaker 1: I do this all the time. People will calling outside
Speaker 1: the box and they'll say, Ben, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: they can't make. They can't make Blazing Saddles. Today, I'm like,
Speaker 1: of course they can't, because Blazing Saddles from fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: and comedy evolves. If you are telling the same jokes
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two, you're telling in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I would assume most people would find your jokes to
Speaker 1: be not funny because we've seen them a thousand times over.
Speaker 1: This felt like a rehash of nineties comedy that I
Speaker 1: grew up on that I love. And it all felt
Speaker 1: like you'd be like Jack Black will randomly like hookers.
Speaker 1: He'd like yell something and you could tell there was
Speaker 1: even a pause for the laughter. No laughter theater they're
Speaker 1: Beline deliveries. And I think it's because that would have
Speaker 1: been funny twenty five years ago, and it was. It
Speaker 1: was humor by today's many. I don't in terms of
Speaker 1: bits other than the one in the commercial that we've
Speaker 1: all seen with the hog when he's dead with the
Speaker 1: squirrel in his mouth that they do.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, to be honest with you, I forgot about that, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And then there's one where they set up
Speaker 1: to pee in a way that is absolutely hilarious. And
Speaker 1: other than those two bits, there's really not jokes. They're
Speaker 1: banking on the fact that Paul Rudd and Jack Black
Speaker 1: are just innately funny and their delivery of words is funny,
Speaker 1: and that's what they're back.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder if if part of me was like because
Speaker 2: I knew this is a remake and it was a
Speaker 2: very meta thing like where they're obviously they live in
Speaker 2: the same you know, in the universe where the Anaconda
Speaker 2: movie from ninety seven like was made or whatever, and
Speaker 2: I wonder if I just felt like something bigger was coming,
Speaker 2: like they were gonna do more with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did a.
Speaker 2: Couple of things. No spoilers, but there's a couple of surprises.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some wrinkles.
Speaker 2: Did you see the first wrinkle coming? No, because when
Speaker 2: when they're showing that, I'm like, oh, you know, it
Speaker 2: would be awesome if it's this. Yeah, And then it
Speaker 2: was I'm like yeah, yeah, I think I was pretty verbal.
Speaker 2: Uh and when when that happened, And there was one
Speaker 2: other time I laughed pretty hard and I can't remember what.
Speaker 1: It was, which is how I described the movie.
Speaker 2: You know, which is which is funny that that like
Speaker 2: I remember because I remember after I got done, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2: On the podcast, I got to bring up that I
Speaker 2: laughed twice in this film and I can't even remember
Speaker 2: the second.
Speaker 1: Time exactly that that's kind of my whole I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I remember. There's one jump scare that didn't
Speaker 1: make me jump, but I was like, Oh, if you
Speaker 1: don't watch horror movies, I bet that scared the crap
Speaker 1: out of you.
Speaker 2: Talking about the binocular thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh and then and then the the
Speaker 1: pen set up and they do take the hog on
Speaker 1: the back scene from the trailer, and they do build
Speaker 1: on that with one more layer that did get me
Speaker 1: to laugh. That might be what you're thinking about, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it was. Yeah, because they add the extra
Speaker 1: layer once Jack Black wakes up, which again not a spoiler,
Speaker 1: you see it in the trailer and he's running, they
Speaker 1: add an extra element that they don't include in the
Speaker 1: trailer there that did make me laugh. And I'll tell you, bok,
Speaker 1: there was one. There's one goober and I hate these
Speaker 1: that work. There's one goober in the audience because there
Speaker 1: was like fifteen twenty people watching it in the theater
Speaker 1: with me that was laughing so hard the entire lay.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there and I'm like so like because
Speaker 1: it's the exact opposite of what happened when I went
Speaker 1: to go see Roses. Like in Roses, there was no
Speaker 1: seats available and I'm the only one holding my stomach laughing.
Speaker 1: And here I'm sitting there and this guy's just dying
Speaker 1: and I'm just like then, I'm like feeling like condescending almost,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this just? You have to be
Speaker 1: of a certain level of humor for this to resonate
Speaker 1: with you, because I am not finding this funny here.
Speaker 1: This guy wouldn't stop laughing.
Speaker 2: I was at my kids basketball tournament this past Saturday,
Speaker 2: and there was a guy sitting behind us for one
Speaker 2: of the games calling for traveling, calling or fouls that
Speaker 2: just were not happening, you know. And I turned to
Speaker 2: my mom and I said, it's like, this guy's never
Speaker 2: watched a basketball game. And I feel like that's the
Speaker 2: guy in the theater where if you are laughing super
Speaker 2: hard at this, like, have you not seen a comedy?
Speaker 1: This is the first comedy you've ever got, And there
Speaker 1: aren't many new comedies. They're starting to come out again
Speaker 1: now we've seen a.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? I mean, there was
Speaker 2: just this long stretch where there's no comedy.
Speaker 1: I'm not a cancel culture guy, but I do think
Speaker 1: there was a period of oversensitivity I think made it.
Speaker 2: There have to be a cancel culture guy to recognize
Speaker 2: that other people are and maybe that's the reason why.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is like, I don't blame it
Speaker 1: specifically on that, but I do say I think there
Speaker 1: was a lot of hesitance because a lot of the
Speaker 1: shit that made us laugh when we were teenagers, some
Speaker 1: of it might be like, oh, okay, like you can't
Speaker 1: say that anymore. I don't think we're bad people for
Speaker 1: laughing at it. I think it was a different time,
Speaker 1: and I think people are just nervous about or were
Speaker 1: I should say. And now I'll tell you what we
Speaker 1: could gun What three was absolutely tremendous. This one kind
Speaker 1: of whiffed in a lot of ways. I think I'm
Speaker 1: making a good comedies hard, and I hope more people try.
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, though, that might be
Speaker 1: why that dude was laughing like that, because there hasn't
Speaker 1: been a lot of contemporary comedy lately, so people are
Speaker 1: starved for it.
Speaker 2: Let me throw something else at you. What about the
Speaker 2: fact of we can get comedies at home on streaming services.
Speaker 2: We can get certain dramas on home at home on
Speaker 2: streaming services. The stuff we go to the theater for
Speaker 2: is the avatar stuff, the f one stuff, Yes, the
Speaker 2: stuff where you're actually immersed in the actual film, whereas comedies,
Speaker 2: I mean, did you feel like you were immersed in
Speaker 2: the Amazon jungle in this one?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, no, And I don't think that's the idea, right,
Speaker 2: So for something like this, Hollywood's probably like, why would
Speaker 2: we make stuff that the experience in the theater is
Speaker 2: not accentuated at all?
Speaker 1: Counterpoint I have actually said since twenty fourteen, and I
Speaker 1: know it's twenty fourteen, and I'll explain why in a second,
Speaker 1: that the only reason theaters are still relevant is for
Speaker 1: big budget action movies, horror movies that you want to
Speaker 1: get like engrossed in, like the scary parts of it,
Speaker 1: and comedies for packed theaters. And the reason I.
Speaker 2: Know, wait, okay, what's the comedy? What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Comedies for pack theaters?
Speaker 1: I saw Dumb and Dumber two without a seats available,
Speaker 1: and that makes sense, and it was one of the
Speaker 1: best movie experiences I ever had in my life. So
Speaker 1: I bought the movie on Blu Ray when it came
Speaker 1: out and rewatched it. I went. I went with my
Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time, my brother and his girlfriend at
Speaker 1: the time, and we were like, you guys have to
Speaker 1: see this movie, and we bought it on Blu Ray.
Speaker 1: We watched it again, not in a theater, and we
Speaker 1: were looking at each other and we're like, you know,
Speaker 1: it might have been the environment that we were in,
Speaker 1: because the whole theater was cracking up. Being in a
Speaker 1: comedy movie when everyone's laughing with you. It happened for
Speaker 1: Naked Gun. For me, that is such a fun time.
Speaker 1: It's just like going to a comedy show. You might
Speaker 1: watch a stand up comic and maybe chuckle look couple
Speaker 1: of times, but when you like at your house, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you were sitting next to a bunch of
Speaker 1: people holding their sides cracking up, you all of a
Speaker 1: sudden find yourself laughing more.
Speaker 2: So then to your point, Ana Conda would not classify
Speaker 2: one of these.
Speaker 1: Packed because it didn't draw the audience, and even the
Speaker 1: people that were there, one out of twenty thought what
Speaker 1: was happening? What was that was actually fun?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like I mean to use your example,
Speaker 2: Dumb and Dumber two, Do you feel like that was
Speaker 2: because of the anticipation, like we had not seen a
Speaker 2: Jeff Daniels, Jim Carrey Thumb and Dumber in whatever it
Speaker 2: was thirty years. That probably contributed to it, right, Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But conversely, I think Anchorman two would have bombed
Speaker 1: in the theater, you know what I mean. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I would have been laughing at that at all.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Anchorman two is all that good.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think it's not so much
Speaker 1: the I think if Dumb and Dumber two would suck.
Speaker 2: But I'll say this, I'll say this, like Dumb and
Speaker 2: Dumber two, I feel no compulsion to rewatch. I've only
Speaker 2: saw it, seen it once, so so.
Speaker 1: I remember when Jeff Daniel says though, he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't to my parents since I told him I
Speaker 1: was gay. Gary says, but you're not gay, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sick and tired of mowing the lawn. That's
Speaker 1: a good job. That's a good job.
Speaker 2: Uh. The The other thing with this, and I wonder
Speaker 2: if it would have changed. Do you feel like this
Speaker 2: was missing a leading man a leading comedy comedic actor.
Speaker 2: If somebody like Jim Carrey or Will Ferrell had been
Speaker 2: in this along with Rudd Jack.
Speaker 1: Black, see, I think that question just offended a lot
Speaker 1: of people because I think I love you man.
Speaker 2: All the rules we've.
Speaker 1: Just listed with Jack Black. Paul Rudd's role in Forgetting
Speaker 1: Sarah Marshall, Oh Hello, looks like someone's from London. Like
Speaker 1: it's funny, It's quotable, funny stuff. I think these guys
Speaker 1: have the chops to do it. I think it felt
Speaker 1: mailed in man to be perfectly okay.
Speaker 2: But but but again to my earlier point, Paul Rudd
Speaker 2: was a bit part in that movie, was a bit
Speaker 2: part in that movie, and I would I would contend
Speaker 2: that Jason Siegel was the main attraction sure quite frankly,
Speaker 2: in both those movies, and I love it, Like which
Speaker 2: is weird to say, what's he been doing lately? I'm
Speaker 2: not seeing in anything, or maybe he's just directing now honestly,
Speaker 2: Forgetting Sarah marsh No, he did that weird AMC show
Speaker 2: Dispatches from Nowhere.
Speaker 1: I watched two episodes of it and lost interests, probably
Speaker 1: why I got canceled as quickly as it.
Speaker 2: You know, it was weird because I think, like, did
Speaker 2: you ever what was the Gunslinger movie with McConaughey and
Speaker 2: Idris Elba Dark Tower?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: That was the book. Series kind of ends in a
Speaker 2: in a circular manner where the ending is the same
Speaker 2: as the start, right, And I believe that's how Dispatches
Speaker 2: from Nowhere ended where it turned out. Spoiler alert. I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm enough Dispatches from Elsewhere. Elsewhere not Nowhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the ending was him writing the whole thing. Oh you
Speaker 2: know like this, this was a whole thing that he
Speaker 2: had written, that Siegel had written. Yeah, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: I sometimes wonder when this I love how off topic
Speaker 1: we are at this point, but I sometimes wonder when
Speaker 1: people as talented as him don't show up. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a shady underbelly of Hollywood, and I sometimes wonder
Speaker 1: if people like you know what I'm out, Like, like,
Speaker 1: you're asking me to do some stuff that I do
Speaker 1: not want to be a part of. And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna call it because I'm looking at his filmography. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's in something called Shrinking, which I guess is a show.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was Apple TV. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, it looks like we got sex tape
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, like he has fallen off a cliff
Speaker 1: other than yeah yeah, I saw that in theaters with
Speaker 1: a girl I was dating, and uh yeah, Despicable Me
Speaker 1: in twenty ten, five Year Engagement, twenty twelve, Muppets, and
Speaker 1: eleven I Love You Man, and nine. I think I
Speaker 1: don't know this or fact, but I always because I
Speaker 1: do think he's a talented actor. I think he's a
Speaker 1: funny guy.
Speaker 2: Can you is that as IMDb?
Speaker 1: I'm on his Google movies and shows.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he because I think he was kind
Speaker 2: of transitioning to directing a little bit more, and I
Speaker 2: wonder if that's what he's been doing instead of acting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe going I'll look for it while you're talking here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well not not, I mean not to believe.
Speaker 1: He's only got two director credits Dispatches and Jason Seagull
Speaker 1: and Paul Rudd meet Rush in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, Well, how Paul rudds still getting
Speaker 2: all this work? It seems like him and Siegel are bodies.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's what leads me to believe you either
Speaker 1: are part of a scandal or don't want to be
Speaker 1: part of the sand, and those are the only two.
Speaker 2: We haven't heard anything about a scandal with Seagull.
Speaker 1: Because he disappeared, because that whole crew James Franco's in
Speaker 1: some hollw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we knew. But we knew about Franko, Yeah
Speaker 2: we did. We always we find out about this stuff
Speaker 2: and then and then all of a sudden, like Segull,
Speaker 2: we never there were no even whispers or rumors.
Speaker 1: I think he would have been a great addition to
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 1: And I'll be real, I think both women played like
Speaker 1: the traditional woman parts of like nineties comedies like I
Speaker 1: don't think either one of them was particularly entertaining, not
Speaker 1: to say they're bad actors. I think they weren't put
Speaker 1: in a position to be funny.
Speaker 2: I don't. It's like Tandy Newton needed a paycheck. This
Speaker 2: is not her right, million right.
Speaker 1: And Daniella Melchoir or melcoor melkor Yeah. I thought she
Speaker 1: was AI for the first ten minutes because she's so
Speaker 1: beautiful that I was like, there's no way a person
Speaker 1: that exist beautiful.
Speaker 2: God, your version of beauty is.
Speaker 1: Just there's no way a person like this lives in
Speaker 1: reality because I can't stop looking at this girl. And
Speaker 1: I've seen almost every movie she's in, and I feel
Speaker 1: like I've never seen her before in my life. Who
Speaker 1: was she in Guardians of the Galaxy? Get out of Here?
Speaker 1: She was in Guardian Who was she? I have no idea,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Just says she's in the movie.
Speaker 1: I'll look it up. But uh, but yeah, she was
Speaker 1: in Suicide Squad, the second one. Oh, she's probably the
Speaker 1: Ratcatcher's daughter now that I think about it. But she's
Speaker 1: in the Fastest Yeah movie.
Speaker 2: God, I didn't realize she was in all this stuff.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. She's in a ton of big
Speaker 1: budget stuff. The Roadhouse remake, she was doing all these things.
Speaker 1: But let's see here, Guardians of the Galaxy three, There
Speaker 1: we go. She's Eura. You are a?
Speaker 2: Is that one of the Ravagers or something?
Speaker 1: She's one of the red skinned Oh, she's the one
Speaker 1: that that Peter Quill flirts.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait when they're in like the
Speaker 2: Weird Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're like the flesh yeah thing. Yeah okay, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's why I didn't recognize her. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought She was stunning in this movie, not hilarious at all,
Speaker 1: though she really didn't have any lines that were funny.
Speaker 1: They wrote all the lines for the three leads, and
Speaker 1: those three leads to hit about twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 2: The other thing too, like this was not like a
Speaker 2: well known director at least I'm not familiar with him
Speaker 2: at all. And the guy who wrote this with him,
Speaker 2: I think it was Kevin Evan, was like a co writer.
Speaker 2: The director is Tom something I want to say. I
Speaker 2: could be wrong on that, but it's weird that you
Speaker 2: get this cast together, Oh that's the original, keep going.
Speaker 2: You get this cast together and it's like, really, this
Speaker 2: is what they churned out. You know, they couldn't have
Speaker 2: loved the script all that much. They could not have.
Speaker 2: There's just no way. And then you get all this
Speaker 2: talent that has done so much other so many other
Speaker 2: great things. It's it's I don't know, it's just a
Speaker 2: lot about this to not make any It's.
Speaker 1: Interesting you bring that up, and now I have a theory.
Speaker 1: I'm going to run this past.
Speaker 2: Yeah please, I'm probably gonna agree to it because I
Speaker 2: don't have a good answer.
Speaker 1: Nostalgia bit is big in America. Right, we're trying to
Speaker 1: find the things you and I grew up on. Repackage
Speaker 1: it make you bring your kids. In my case, if
Speaker 1: it's just enough to intrigue you from your childhood, come
Speaker 1: out and see it. There's a very famous anecdote about
Speaker 1: Sean Connery who turned down Gandalf. It's why Ian McClellan
Speaker 1: is Gandalf. They originally asked Sean Connery and he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what this movie is. It seems dumb,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to ruin my career. And Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings goes on to be what Lord of
Speaker 1: the Rings is?
Speaker 2: A movie? For him?
Speaker 1: Mad at himself for passing up on that opportunity, he
Speaker 1: decided he wasn't going to make the same mistake twice
Speaker 1: and took the role as the lead in the League
Speaker 1: of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a movie I personally did not hate,
Speaker 1: but America did hate.
Speaker 2: A I didn't even know that was a nostalgic thing.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's not nostalgic. But he in his own
Speaker 1: mind equated Lord of the Rings with League of Extraordinary
Speaker 1: People around you, and as a result, he just after
Speaker 1: that movie. I just don't understand Hollywood anymore and retired
Speaker 1: after that movie.
Speaker 2: This was his last film.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, this might have been a play by Jack
Speaker 1: Black and Paul Rudd to be like, you know, nostalgia
Speaker 1: bates in. People love Anaconda. Let's just do the Anaconda
Speaker 1: movie and make up a billion dollars because everyone's to
Speaker 1: see it. And this was their league of extraordinary gentlemen.
Speaker 1: They thought they were cashing in on that feeling. But
Speaker 1: in reality, I love Anaconda. How many knees are there
Speaker 1: in the world, clearly enough to double your box office,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily enough for just to be memori you know.
Speaker 2: I just maybe it's a delicate thing, trying to combine
Speaker 2: comedy with horror. Because I thought Anaconda was a great movie.
Speaker 2: I loved it me too, and we were all so
Speaker 2: much younger in my case much. I don't even think like.
Speaker 2: I think like I would still enjoy it today. You
Speaker 2: may not, because I think there is a lot of
Speaker 2: tropes in that that were easily predictable. Yeah, somebody as
Speaker 2: as conditioned as you are now. But I still would
Speaker 2: enjoy it. You know. This brings me back to stranger things.
Speaker 2: I have been listening to the two guys I work
Speaker 2: with the last couple of days do nothing but complain
Speaker 2: about how Stranger Things ended and how the Duffer brothers
Speaker 2: are feel and that, and that they're the worst writers
Speaker 2: ever that they can leave all this stuff open. And
Speaker 2: you know this, are you following conformity Gate at all? No? Oh, dude,
Speaker 2: this is this is massive conformity Gate. Is this huge
Speaker 2: thing on the Internet that is showing all these like
Speaker 2: little easter eggs and and stuff that they're seeing not
Speaker 2: only from the show itself, but in popular culture in
Speaker 2: the real world that is pointing to not only a
Speaker 2: bonus episode today, but maybe four bonus episodes of Stranger
Speaker 2: Things today. In other words, stuff that's going to happen
Speaker 2: with Stranger Things prior to this VECNA spinoff that we're
Speaker 2: supposed to be getting. And I'm like, I'm not filing
Speaker 2: at all. But the point of it is, as I've
Speaker 2: done nothing but listen to these guys complain, It's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, why can't you guys just enjoy it for
Speaker 2: what it is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why why why do we? And I know we have
Speaker 2: a podcast critiquing this stuff, But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I watch this stuff with an open mind. I don't
Speaker 2: have to enjoy it. But once it's ended, I'm done,
Speaker 2: you know, Like if I really really enjoy it, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it more. I want to
Speaker 2: experience more of it. But if I didn't like it,
Speaker 2: why am I dragging you know, myself through the mud
Speaker 2: of the muck and the meyer of stuff I didn't like?
Speaker 2: And that's that's like the whole thing where it comes
Speaker 2: back to this, this film like it's it's done. Uh,
Speaker 2: didn't really enjoy it? Yeah, but that's where But that's
Speaker 2: where it ends.
Speaker 1: For big difference the movie, I get you can move
Speaker 1: past the movie. If Endgame would have sucked, it always
Speaker 1: comes back to Marvel. If Endgame would have sucked, I
Speaker 1: would still be complaining about it.
Speaker 2: The difference with that is how many films have we
Speaker 2: gotten since Endgame?
Speaker 1: And how many years have your co fellow coworkers been
Speaker 1: watching Strangers Things since twenty fourteen twenty?
Speaker 2: Well is that when it came out to fourteen I'm sure? Uh?
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones twenty ten to twenty nineteen, six years
Speaker 1: it's absolutely brilliance, but and then a complete of the bed.
Speaker 2: So I come back to this as well, it's not
Speaker 2: what I didn't like it how it ended. It's not
Speaker 2: what I would have done, but it is what it is,
Speaker 2: and and so then I'm done with it. After that,
Speaker 2: I don't sweat it. Why do you take the time
Speaker 2: to put yourself through the pain of continuing to rehash
Speaker 2: why you didn't like it? Why these guys are morons?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Like for me, it's just like it's it's not worth it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm turning this into a mental health thing, like,
Speaker 2: but like the thing is I like this. Why do
Speaker 2: we do that to ourselves?
Speaker 1: It's because it's just like the trope of like when
Speaker 1: a couple breaks up in their late twenties and the
Speaker 1: girlfriend roll was yoe, you wasted the best years of
Speaker 1: my life. I watched Game of Thrones from the time
Speaker 1: I was twenty two until the time I was thirty one,
Speaker 1: and was so invested, and it's like it didn't even exist.
Speaker 1: I will never rewatch Game of Thrones because.
Speaker 2: Jonas for me in general, are heart like I'll tell
Speaker 2: you this breaking bad, better call Saul. I think those
Speaker 2: are two of the greatest dramas we've ever seen in
Speaker 2: television history. I have no inkling to rewatch those.
Speaker 1: Oh see I used to rewatch the seasons of Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones in expectation of the next season of Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones coming up.
Speaker 2: Like that. You almost had to do that because there
Speaker 2: was so long between seasons that you had to refresh,
Speaker 2: like Okay, what's this guy's name again? Okay, what's going
Speaker 2: on with this person? You know that. That's why I
Speaker 2: think I had to do it. But now for pleasure,
Speaker 2: I mean that both of them are on Netflix. I
Speaker 2: have not desire. Comedies are so much more rewatchable to
Speaker 2: me sure than dramas, so I just kind of skip over.
Speaker 1: But the lesson that should be learned from that then
Speaker 1: is either bang these seasons out year and a year
Speaker 1: out because by dragging it out. When Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: says we put one hundred million dollars into every one
Speaker 1: of the last six episodes, yeah, and it's gonna take
Speaker 1: us two years because we're basically making them all little movies.
Speaker 1: And then that's what you churn out after making everybody
Speaker 1: wait and letting those expectations build. Same thing with Stranger Things.
Speaker 1: You let the expectations build and then all the sudden
Speaker 1: you have a collapse. If endgame wouldn't have stuck the landing. Hell,
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. Is crap about Doomsday? I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to pull it off or not. Well,
Speaker 1: see these little trailers and I see how they're going
Speaker 1: to take the vision that Iron Man had an age
Speaker 1: of Ultron and they're saying that was an Infinity War
Speaker 1: that was actually Doomsday that he was seeing, and like
Speaker 1: they're tying it all in in a way that I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: damn it. How are these guys always so on point
Speaker 1: with this stuff?
Speaker 2: That? The other thing to is like that was that
Speaker 2: was ten years of anticipation with with where they and
Speaker 2: they knew they were golden, like they could they could
Speaker 2: do whatever they wanted with Doomsday. How long has it
Speaker 2: been since Endgame? Seven years?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, So it's not it hasn't been the as long.
Speaker 2: We've gotten fewer films.
Speaker 1: And that, Yeah, but they're less highly regarded movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 1: Yes, But so that's what it comes down to, you,
Speaker 1: I think is expectation. I think we both expected a
Speaker 1: little more out of this cast and out of this
Speaker 1: premise than what we ultimately ended up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it couldn't decide what it was.
Speaker 2: Is this is this a meta thing with like, you know,
Speaker 2: where the Anaconda fans are gonna feel all the nostalgia
Speaker 2: from all these different little Maybe there was a bunch
Speaker 2: of Easter eggs I didn't pick up on.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I would have saw them. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I would I saw them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And or is this a comedy where they kind
Speaker 2: of referenced it a little bit? Is it still horror?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I guess there are a couple elements of horror.
Speaker 2: What did you make of the Snake?
Speaker 1: I thought there were good scenes.
Speaker 2: I did not feel like and I don't know what
Speaker 2: the budget for this was. I don't know what the budget. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the budget for the original was either.
Speaker 2: But but my whole thing was, I didn't really feel
Speaker 2: like there was you know, we're talking about thirty years
Speaker 2: of advancement in CGI. Sure, I didn't really think it
Speaker 2: was all that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't impressive. It definitely looked more real than the
Speaker 1: ninety seven one, which is basically just a puppet. I
Speaker 1: think what bothered me the most. I guess this is
Speaker 1: maybe it's a quasi spoiler. I'll say it this way.
Speaker 1: There are very obvious characters that have very obvious plot armor,
Speaker 1: Like you're not going to be watching this movie wondering
Speaker 1: if the cast is going to get out of this movie.
Speaker 2: Not that type.
Speaker 1: It's not that type, whereas Anaconda creature features in general. Yeah,
Speaker 1: only two or three people are supposed to come out
Speaker 1: of this movie when it's all said and done. And
Speaker 1: this film starts introducing bad guys and people that are fodder,
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, I know who the snake's gonna kill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know who the snake isn't going to kill,
Speaker 1: and you will not be surprised, Like there's not one
Speaker 1: moment where you'd be like what, that's not a thing
Speaker 1: that takes place. And my fav as far as somebody dying, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And I think we talked about before. My
Speaker 1: favorite off the Off the podcast, my favorite giant monster
Speaker 1: killing people movie of all time is a more recent one.
Speaker 1: I freaking love Skull Island and there's like five different
Speaker 1: Island is pretty good. That movie does a great job
Speaker 1: of like really making you invest in the characters, being like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy just had a son at home. This is great. Oh,
Speaker 1: never mind the creature that looks like a log and
Speaker 1: camouflage itself. Just ate him and I like, you move on.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Marvel people, absolutely, yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 1: But like, there's just so many cool moments. Deep Blue
Speaker 1: Sea was another great one from the mid two thousands
Speaker 1: me too, Like there's a way you do these movies,
Speaker 1: and the way you do it is you put between
Speaker 1: nine and thirteen people in a situation, two or three
Speaker 1: of them make it out, and you have your moments
Speaker 1: along the way. This put five people in a situation
Speaker 1: and said, this is the entire cast and they're all
Speaker 1: none of them. If any of them die, there's a
Speaker 1: good chance you're gonna hate this movie. Still, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna let that.
Speaker 2: Well. Skull Island the other thing that they did too,
Speaker 2: it was like three different at least at least two
Speaker 2: but probably if I remember correctly, like three different plots
Speaker 2: going on at the same time. Yeah, Like you had
Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson's group, you had, right, you had Bree Larson
Speaker 2: and Tom Hidleston's group, and then you had the you know,
Speaker 2: John c Riley thing, and they kind of all came together.
Speaker 2: But then it was like, now the stakes are even
Speaker 2: higher because you know multiple people in each one of
Speaker 2: these groups yes.
Speaker 1: Are gonna go yeah, and there's none There's like two
Speaker 1: characters that are the jerk characters, like, oh, that guy's
Speaker 1: gonna die. Everyone else you're like, oh, I hope this
Speaker 1: guy makes it, and when he doesn't, she's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, why'd you make me get that attached to him?
Speaker 1: And like And that's a skill, especially in this era
Speaker 1: of hyper good TV shows, where I often say it's
Speaker 1: hard to get me to care in those kind of
Speaker 1: movies because if I'm watching We'll just use Walking Dead
Speaker 1: as an example. If I've gotten to known characters over five, six,
Speaker 1: seven seasons and then I watched don oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I can't believe they killed that guy. Whereas in
Speaker 1: a movie, I'm watching it for an hour, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: well that is shows. Yeah, sko Island got me there.
Speaker 1: This movie did not get me there, And at no
Speaker 1: point was I wondering if I was going to get there.
Speaker 1: I kind of knew what. It's kind of like late
Speaker 1: game Game of Thrones, where you knew Daryl and Carroll
Speaker 1: were untouchable. Yeah, and we might kill the people around them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: walking Dead, you knew her Game of Thrones. We know
Speaker 1: John Snow once it brought him back, is not dying right, So,
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden that tensions removed. I feel
Speaker 1: like that might be part of why the show started
Speaker 1: sucking later. This show, this movie was just a movie
Speaker 1: of plot armor. At no point were you wondering.
Speaker 2: So so let me ask you this. I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: back to the tropic thunder aspect. So Jack Black was
Speaker 2: in both of those movies, Traffic Thunder and then this one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Now he took much more of a starring role in
Speaker 2: Traffic and Anaconda than he did in Traffic Thunder. I
Speaker 2: didn't even think about this until I was watching the credits.
Speaker 2: Did you notice a similarity in the closing credits to Anaconda?
Speaker 2: And I wonder? Now, I'm like, were they just trying
Speaker 2: to make like maybe a little bit of a poor
Speaker 2: man's tropic Thunder? And that's how they got Paul rodd On,
Speaker 2: That's how they got Steve's on On, That's how they
Speaker 2: got Tandy Newton. Now the difference in that is, you know,
Speaker 2: say what you will about Ben Stiller, but there was
Speaker 2: something to be said about how he carried that movie.
Speaker 2: Downey Junior got nominated for an Academy Awarding Blackface, which
Speaker 2: they referenced in the movie, right, didn't they reference in
Speaker 2: the movie? Yeah, and then you had Jack Black being
Speaker 2: a bit player. But then you had Nick Nolty, Danny McBride,
Speaker 2: Tom freaking Cruise Bill here yet all these other guys.
Speaker 2: So this was never gonna live up to that. No, obviously,
Speaker 2: I'm sure the budget was much smaller as well, but
Speaker 2: that was the I got very big tropic thunder vibes,
Speaker 2: and I was watching that, I'm like, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: this this was intended to be something else to harken
Speaker 2: to that that totally missed me, like, and obviously missed
Speaker 2: you because you didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't even And for the record, I looked it
Speaker 1: up before I went, and I normally don't do that.
Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes audiences are over seventy percent. This is what
Speaker 1: I think we're not accounting for. Maybe my cynicism is
Speaker 1: wearing off on you a little bit. The rud black
Speaker 1: charm does charm. A lot of America critics were like, no,
Speaker 1: it's under fifty percent, which, in Ben Kommono's world, critics
Speaker 1: under fifty and audiences is seventy. I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a cool movie. Like that is absolutely
Speaker 1: my attitude. That is not how I can like. This
Speaker 1: is probably the most disappointed I've ever been with those
Speaker 1: metrics on a Rotten Tomatoes score, because normally critics are
Speaker 1: the pretentious ones. And I even read some of the
Speaker 1: reviews and they said kind of how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, rud and black or charming, but
Speaker 1: it's not enough to make up for a lot of
Speaker 1: the flaws in this movie. And that's kind of how
Speaker 1: I started this whole podcast off, and it is the
Speaker 1: appropriate assessment. Like it was never too scary, it was
Speaker 1: never too funny, it was never too dramatic. And I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, you know, I love this plot point in movies.
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of good fortune in there.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit it's the uh, go achieve your
Speaker 1: dreams and be able to afford your life and do
Speaker 1: these things, and it felt very real and as per usual,
Speaker 1: I resonated very much with Paul Rudd's attitudes in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways throughout that movie when he was having
Speaker 1: more human elements, and I think if I weren't kind
Speaker 1: of into those scenes of the movie, I probably would
Speaker 1: have been way less interested than I already am in
Speaker 1: what the film was. But I found his character arc
Speaker 1: to be incredibly interesting. But then they just make it
Speaker 1: a joke by the end of it. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: spoil how but like they completely undercut any kind of
Speaker 1: unlike Good Fortune, where Azaz ends up going back to
Speaker 1: living in a life of you know, traditional and trying
Speaker 1: to work his way out of it. They just kind
Speaker 1: of give Paul, we're giving spoilers now, and it's it's
Speaker 1: six months old over yourself.
Speaker 2: Paul Rudd can be very funny. Yeah, he was very
Speaker 2: funny in Anchorman. He was very funny in forty year
Speaker 2: Old Virgin. This type of character was too sugary sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you need a little bit of that spice. De gaff Uh,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the best way to say it.
Speaker 2: This this de gaff rough around the edges type character,
Speaker 2: which is what he was. Yeah, in in those two films,
Speaker 2: I think, uh, knocked up, this is forty you know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a little this It just it seemed like
Speaker 2: it was so cookie cutter and like not a believe
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say not a believable character, but just
Speaker 2: to to to Chris evansish, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and and.
Speaker 2: Paul that's not Paul Jack Black, same thing. And I'm
Speaker 2: going to reiterate this point too. I think he's really
Speaker 2: good when the focus is on physical comedy, line delivery,
Speaker 2: and there was just too much emotional weight that he
Speaker 2: had to carry around mostly the first half of the
Speaker 2: movie for me to really get into his character.
Speaker 1: Do you think we'd be laughing? And like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound careless here, because.
Speaker 2: Before he asked me this, I'm gonna tell you this
Speaker 2: right now. I don't think there's any casting on planet
Speaker 2: Earth that would have saved the writing in this movie.
Speaker 1: I agree. I totally agree if he were not taken
Speaker 1: away from us far too early, do you think we'd
Speaker 1: still be laughing at if he didn't evolve it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So Leo is a big huge I mean Leo and Alex,
Speaker 2: I mean they love Farley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he only has four movies, like we all quote.
Speaker 2: And I'll say this, I think he was very funny.
Speaker 2: He was something we had never seen before, at least
Speaker 2: I mean maybe John Belushi but I mean I grew
Speaker 2: up with Chris Farley. I didn't grow up with with
Speaker 2: John Belus me too, Yeah, exactly, and so so he
Speaker 2: was this revolutionary guy. I thought Tommy Boy was great.
Speaker 2: Black Sheep was not.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, in my heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I did not care for that movie.
Speaker 1: I actually think it's better than Tommy Boy.
Speaker 2: Listen, what did you turn into a hipster all of
Speaker 2: a sudden? What does what know? Black Sheep was better
Speaker 2: than me?
Speaker 1: Hoff Jack?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I'm not saying there was no moments
Speaker 2: like they had its moments.
Speaker 1: No one pulls over on the shoulder.
Speaker 2: It's so you know what, I just realized Tim Tim
Speaker 2: Matheson was in that movie and he got to work
Speaker 2: with Belushi and Farley. That list probably is not very
Speaker 2: probably not anyway, yea, Beverly Hills, Ninja, it's whatever. And
Speaker 2: then what was the Almost Heroes with Matthew Perry, which
Speaker 2: was not completely forgettable. So so, and I've said, I say,
Speaker 2: Jack Black, So here's the thing. It's what I want
Speaker 2: to bring back to before pretty back to check Blaye. Yeah,
Speaker 2: regarding Farley, and I've said this before on the show,
Speaker 2: I used to think like the late eighties early nineties
Speaker 2: was my favorite SNL cast, you know. And it was
Speaker 2: a star studded cast that was like the Bad Boys era, right,
Speaker 2: you know. And I go back and I watch some
Speaker 2: of those skits and yeah, Farley's okay, but you know
Speaker 2: there is a lot of them where it he just
Speaker 2: missed like the comedy, just missed the audience and missed
Speaker 2: me or whatever. I've often said this about Kurt Cobain,
Speaker 2: how revolutionary he was in the big role he played
Speaker 2: in the grunge movement in the late eighties early to
Speaker 2: mid nineties. Sure, and then he allegedly kills himself, which
Speaker 2: I'm sure he did, by the way, I don't want
Speaker 2: to start that, yeah, rabbit hole, I will or fall
Speaker 2: into that. But he kills himself in the mid nineties,
Speaker 2: and Rolling Stone did a piece on the thirtieth anniversary
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty fifth or thirtieth anniversary of
Speaker 2: his death, and they were they kind of wondered what
Speaker 2: he would be like today, what kind of music he'd
Speaker 2: be making, what the what the status or what what
Speaker 2: where grunge music would be in the sure whatever you
Speaker 2: call it the zeitgeist, right, And it's my contention that
Speaker 2: he they those guys were so good and went out
Speaker 2: on top. There would there would have been Nirvana fatigue. Yes,
Speaker 2: there would have been Chris Farley fatigue. Yeah, there probably
Speaker 2: would have been too Chris Farley comebacks by now, right
Speaker 2: if if he was still alive? Right? And with Jack Black,
Speaker 2: are we kind of seeing another com I mean, like
Speaker 2: we saw the Kung Fu Panda thing has been huge
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 1: Just in the last twelve months. He's had the Minecraft's movie.
Speaker 1: He's a voice of.
Speaker 2: Bowser, and I wonder if we're seeing his second comeback too.
Speaker 1: But he's the same guy. It's not like he's evolved.
Speaker 2: No, it's just it's just fatigue. Yeah, and and uh
Speaker 2: then we're like, oh yeah, Jack, he's really funny. And
Speaker 2: then my wife, actually she says the two people she
Speaker 2: cannot stand as far as Hollywood actors go, and she'll
Speaker 2: never see a movie with him, Jack Black and Seth Green.
Speaker 2: Can't stand either one of them. Yeah, she's just grossed
Speaker 2: out by both.
Speaker 1: Fun fact, there was a large stretch of my life
Speaker 1: where Jack Black was on my list too. I used
Speaker 1: to be a hater and then I kind of grew
Speaker 1: once I found Tenacious Dye and I heard him in
Speaker 1: that then I kind of got it, like I understood
Speaker 1: what he was at that point. I'm like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: actually brilliant. Now I understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does wear on me. Yeah, every now and then.
Speaker 2: I mean there's certain.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you just need a roll. I used to
Speaker 1: hate Tracy Morgan, Like why do people find this guy funny?
Speaker 1: I still and then I saw thirty Rock and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a genius.
Speaker 2: My bad. I don't know. I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: a genius, but but he's talented. He's a talented guy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's another that's another guy. I never really
Speaker 2: he's all right, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, getting back to the whole aspect of of
Speaker 2: of Jack Black, I think that this maybe was a
Speaker 2: like not the crescendo of the wave with you mentioned
Speaker 2: like Minecraft yeah, and you mentioned the Mario thing yeah,
Speaker 2: And now this is just he's kind of riding that
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he gets there will be five more Marios
Speaker 1: and there will be three more Minecrafts, like he'll work
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how many more lead rules.
Speaker 2: Maybe this was just to break it up for him too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know, just like I don't want to sit
Speaker 2: here and do Mario stuff. I don't want to sit
Speaker 2: here and do Minecraft. Maybe it was a favor. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe it was a favor. I don't know, I have
Speaker 2: no isn't it weird? Like you know, we this is
Speaker 2: what this, this edition of the podcast has come to.
Speaker 2: How did this get made? Why did this get made?
Speaker 2: You know, like, I don't think we've ever.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't believe you're here. I expect, like because
Speaker 1: I know this isn't your type of movie to begin with,
Speaker 1: but like you're normally more rosy.
Speaker 2: Here's here's the way you framed it. We're gonna do Avatar,
Speaker 2: which I was not looking for. Yeah, neither of us were.
Speaker 2: And then you were like, well what about Anna ConA.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, right. And I even had like a
Speaker 2: couple of my my buddies like posted in group chats
Speaker 2: the trailer for this like this looks awesome, this looks
Speaker 2: on and maybe that raised my expectations a little bit.
Speaker 2: Two like it's these expectations are so difficult to not
Speaker 2: have going in either high or low, good or bad.
Speaker 1: I'll even take you one step further. John Jordan sent
Speaker 1: me the trailer, he said this looks great, and I
Speaker 1: got halfway through and stopped watching. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: what the hell's wrong with you? Ana Conda but a
Speaker 1: comedy because the first half of the trailer plays like
Speaker 1: they're making the movie. The other shoot doesn't drop that
Speaker 1: they actually lived through the Ana Condom movie. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is gonna be great, Like I
Speaker 1: like that kind of he made me rewatch it. And
Speaker 1: then when I saw the whole thing, that's when I
Speaker 1: was there.
Speaker 2: That's what they should they should have put in at
Speaker 2: Like the front of that trailer is Paul Rudd announcing
Speaker 2: he has the rights to Anna Conda. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that would have that would have been Ultimately doesn't change
Speaker 2: the end product.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it does not, And uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: was heavily disappointed and like, just I can feel we're
Speaker 1: running out of steam on it. But just to put
Speaker 1: a bow on it, because I'm a big horror comedy guy.
Speaker 1: To me, the pinnacle is nineteen.
Speaker 2: Shot of the Dead.
Speaker 1: Eh, I'll be I find them funny, They're good. I
Speaker 1: think there's definitely quotable lines. To me, the funniest slash
Speaker 1: and again skewed because I was young. The funniest, slashed
Speaker 1: scariest movie that I have seen that blended them both
Speaker 1: together so well was nineteen ninety eight Spride of Chucky,
Speaker 1: And there's an element of like, there's moments whe we're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen, mixed with butt butt
Speaker 1: gut busting laughter with some of the lines that they
Speaker 1: use in that movie, and it kind of it is
Speaker 1: such a high standard. John Ritter, Jennifer Tilly, like there's
Speaker 1: a solid cast in Rider.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. He was actually I was thinking,
Speaker 2: like his voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's the dad. Yeah, Catherine Heigel is the
Speaker 1: main girl who has disappeared from Hollywood for reasons we
Speaker 1: do know. Yeah, but in any event, like that's kind
Speaker 1: of like my holy grail of like, no, this is achievable.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of horror comedy misses the mark.
Speaker 1: If you watch Honest trailers on YouTube, one of the
Speaker 1: best descriptions I've ever seen the Leprechaun movies with Warrick Davis.
Speaker 1: They say, a horror comedy there's neither funny nor scary,
Speaker 1: and like that's nor believe where they end up falling
Speaker 1: and so like there are examples Tucker and Dale Versus
Speaker 1: Evil fucking hilarious, like there's there's there's movies that do
Speaker 1: it right, and to have a list comedic actors fall
Speaker 1: so flat. I don't know if it was mailed in.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a paycheck. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they thought it was so much funnier than
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: I don't know if maybe the movies you mentioned definitely
Speaker 2: have more much greater emphasis on the horror aspect than
Speaker 2: this one did.
Speaker 1: Yes, this was this was more comedy than horror. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and those Tucker and Dale Versus Evil.
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, now I think about it,
Speaker 2: I mentioned traffic Thunder reminded me of not lean on me?
Speaker 1: Did I say lean on me?
Speaker 2: Okay? And stand by me? And then the other one
Speaker 2: I just thought of that. There's similarities to is Oh God,
Speaker 2: I just had it, now stand by me. It's another like,
Speaker 2: oh grown ups. There's a little bit of a grown
Speaker 2: ups aspect to this as well, which I don't think
Speaker 2: any of those, any of these actors were.
Speaker 1: In none of that. That's the Adam sandler bergre than those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can even read the text I said to my brother.
Speaker 1: He said, how was Anna Konda? I said, if you
Speaker 1: see it, watch the first team first fifteen minutes and
Speaker 1: turn it off. I did find the first fifteen minutes engaging,
Speaker 1: and then after that I was completely interested.
Speaker 2: I told Sturfry at work, I said, you know, I
Speaker 2: watched Anna Conda last night. He's like, oh really, and
Speaker 2: his eyes lit up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's just now He's like, what really,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's just I don't know, man, And
Speaker 1: I wanted to like it.
Speaker 2: I wanted to like it too. Yeah, I thought this
Speaker 2: is gonna be I mean, I love big monsters, I
Speaker 2: love comedy. Jack Black and Steve's on together. Yeah, sign
Speaker 2: me up.
Speaker 1: Paul Rudd in his ageless face, I'm noticing age in
Speaker 1: it now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can tell. It's yeah. I mean it's
Speaker 2: everybody jokes about that. He looks good for his age,
Speaker 2: but you can tell. I mean, dude, dude's fifty plus
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: Remember that and that Pull three when Man's corpse is
Speaker 1: in the body. He's like, Paul finally aged. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very cool.
Speaker 2: So did you see the The X Men trailer? Then?
Speaker 2: For Doomsday? I think there's one more that's coming out
Speaker 2: in the next week or so.
Speaker 1: So I caught the Guatemalan or whatever South American Yeah trailer,
Speaker 1: but it was dubbed in English, so I could still
Speaker 1: see what happened. Uh uh, And I caught it before
Speaker 1: Twitter took it off because it had been leaked. It's
Speaker 1: not worth getting excited.
Speaker 2: Was Wolverine in that one?
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not even x men?
Speaker 2: So yeah, the one, the one that Marvel posted had
Speaker 2: X men in it on on their YouTube.
Speaker 1: Oh, the one with Charles Xavier and Cyclops and all that.
Speaker 1: And there's another one.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know there was another.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I thought you just said there's another one.
Speaker 2: Well, there's one I saw on TikTok and it looked
Speaker 2: like it was real like people were tapically, you know,
Speaker 2: like using their phones to recorded, and Wolverine was in it.
Speaker 2: But then I saw the one that Marvel posted, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was not in it.
Speaker 1: See. I saw that that one that got leaked back
Speaker 1: during Christmas break. I saw it when it was a
Speaker 1: leaked vot Pyclops one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there was one that just got leaked yesterday
Speaker 1: of the fan of Ben Grimm meeting Shurry in Wakanda.
Speaker 1: Oh really, Yeah, but that just got pulled off the
Speaker 1: internet because it wasn't supposed to be out yet. And
Speaker 1: what's funny is black Panther was introduced in Fantastic four,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be a huge moment for a lot
Speaker 1: of market.
Speaker 2: I did not realize that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh so the other people that get it
Speaker 1: will be very excited. Sorry for the spoilers there. That'll
Speaker 1: be dropping shortly, I'm sure. But nevertheless, Uh, do I
Speaker 1: do this? Do I rate this lower than him? Because
Speaker 1: I might rate it lower than him, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: feel dirty. I don't remember what you rated five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go lower than five. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do five and a half for this. I
Speaker 1: think I might have to go four and a half
Speaker 1: just based on expectations and uh.
Speaker 2: We said we're not going to try to base it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, I'll give it a five even that's
Speaker 1: the best I can do. It's definitely not six. As
Speaker 1: I said in the very first episode. Six means if
Speaker 1: I were watching it in my house, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: started scrolling on my iPad. Well it was on, and
Speaker 1: I definitely would have been scrolling. Yeah, during this movie
Speaker 1: before it were over. So I was scrolling in the theaters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just there. It was. It was not engaging.
Speaker 2: It was not you know, if you.
Speaker 1: Do see it, you want to laugh. The uh staff
Speaker 1: at the theater that I used that I refuse to
Speaker 1: say their name because they won't pay me to came
Speaker 1: up to me instead, like I bought the tickets, I
Speaker 1: walked away, and the ticket taker chased me down in
Speaker 1: line to get the snacks and to tell me just
Speaker 1: so you know, there's a mid credit scene and you
Speaker 1: don't want to miss that, so stay through anaconda.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think if I stayed through it?
Speaker 1: Did you stay through like the oh hold on?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, And this is the one guy I didn't
Speaker 2: bring up that I want to ask you about. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think he was funny? Handler there?
Speaker 1: There was a moment or two, but by and large
Speaker 1: it was more sad than anything else.
Speaker 2: Did you am I remembering the mid credits scene? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I did see it. Yeah. I feel like he was
Speaker 2: one of these guys that like, this is like his
Speaker 2: Melissa McCarthy and Bridesmaids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just yeah, not enough there. Oh, No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: not to me. I'll be real not to be that guy.
Speaker 1: But it felt a bit outdated in the sense that
Speaker 1: it was almost like, Hey, look at this foreigner and
Speaker 1: is weird connection with snakes? It's like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that's what the comedy was.
Speaker 2: You know, you know who they probably could have got
Speaker 2: to play that role instead that Jason Siegel. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: could have been very good. Could have been very funny. Yes,
Speaker 2: could especially Siegel with an awful accent. That could have
Speaker 2: been really good. Before we sign off, I want to
Speaker 2: bring this up because there's a ton of stuff that
Speaker 2: I always say I'll tell you off air, and then
Speaker 2: I forget to tell you. Yeah, Bohemian Rhapsody. Was watching
Speaker 2: it again last night and I was looking at because
Speaker 2: the guys that played the other members at Queen God,
Speaker 2: did they look just like I mean? And so the
Speaker 2: guy who played John Deacon looked just like him, right,
Speaker 2: And so I'm researching this and I'm like, oh, who
Speaker 2: is this guy? And I looked him up. Did you
Speaker 2: see Bohemian Rhapsody?
Speaker 1: Saw yeah one time?
Speaker 2: So John Deacon in Queen I want to make sure
Speaker 2: you know who I'm talking about, not the drummer.
Speaker 1: Okay, not the guitarist.
Speaker 2: With the long hair, Brian May.
Speaker 1: The other guy in Queen got it? Okay, Yeah, that actor.
Speaker 2: Was Timmy from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: Get out of here, blowing your mind right, Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Wow, when I gave up, Yeah, I got But he's
Speaker 2: He's been in a ton of other stuff. He was
Speaker 2: in g I Joe Retaliation, he was Dustin Moskowitz in
Speaker 2: the Social Network. Yeah, I mean he he I mean,
Speaker 2: good for him. Yeah, and I guess he made a
Speaker 2: ca Now you might remember this. He made a cameo
Speaker 2: in the second Jurassic Park Lost World. Do you remember
Speaker 2: this at all?
Speaker 1: I don't speak.
Speaker 2: He said this was Spielberg's college gift to him because
Speaker 2: that helped pay for his college NYU or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I was blown away by how much stuff he's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for wild That's a nice positive note to
Speaker 1: end on and a perfect a very un brand for
Speaker 1: off topic. Yeah, exactly is it is it? Can we
Speaker 1: do two creature features in a row?
Speaker 2: Or yeah? Cool? So so I was going to ask
Speaker 2: you here, So number one, what we should have done
Speaker 2: instead of anaconda Hindsights twenty twenty is this. I think
Speaker 2: it was called Mickey Supreme. Oh yeah, okay, that would
Speaker 2: have been a good one. So we could do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could.
Speaker 2: Also do oh god, the Joel Bluth will Arnow, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: this thing on? Is this thing on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We could do that on that piques my interest?
Speaker 2: Or Primate, yeah, which which I would assume that's what
Speaker 2: you'd want to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm fine with any of them. Primate did
Speaker 1: debut it in ninety two by audiences people are loving me.
Speaker 2: I think we probably have to do Primate.
Speaker 1: Then it looks good as shit.
Speaker 2: So is that is that out this weekend?
Speaker 1: It's h I think it.
Speaker 2: I think it actually came out Friday, this past Friday.
Speaker 2: I think because is this thing on comes out this Friday?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Mickey Supreme has been out since Christmas? Yeah, So so.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to do that one, I
Speaker 1: don't know how much longer we have to catch it.
Speaker 1: I'd have to see. Because I like the movies to
Speaker 1: be on in like the early to mid afternoons, I
Speaker 1: can conveniently do it, so as long as there's we
Speaker 1: can do this off the air. But I think one
Speaker 1: of those movies.
Speaker 2: Let's do the teas right now, let's do Primate, okay,
Speaker 2: and then we'll we'll because there's gonna be new movies
Speaker 2: that are coming out and if we miss.
Speaker 1: One, body do I have some movies? So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm willing to sacrifice.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, let's I want to do stuff that we
Speaker 2: want to do, right and if there's stuff that we're
Speaker 2: ok because I'm it's not like I'm dying to see
Speaker 2: Mickey Supreme or is this thing on? Right?
Speaker 1: Is this thing on? Does peau my interest?
Speaker 2: So well, that can do that after Prime because it's
Speaker 2: not even it's not even out yet.
Speaker 1: I would like to see that one. Mickey Supreme similar
Speaker 1: what you said, I'd see it. It seems like it's
Speaker 1: like a classic movie. But uh, Peyton.
Speaker 2: Manning, by the way, yeah, is in is this thing on?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he has a he has a role and is.
Speaker 1: This thing see? I love because you always hear there's
Speaker 1: like the dark side of comedy, and it seems like
Speaker 1: that's what this is going to focus on. I could
Speaker 1: be completely fitting in blanks.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm kind of getting some fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this and even in the trailer, he says I
Speaker 1: thought this was a comedy, like I feel like it's
Speaker 1: not going to be super funny.
Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty and then funny people. Yeah yeah, is
Speaker 2: that Seth Rogan and Adam Sandler. Yeah, that's the other
Speaker 2: one that this kind of like I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then I'll be good, I think.
Speaker 2: But yeah from Primate this coming week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just I know we're looking way for in advance,
Speaker 1: but a lot of new trailers are dropping, and there's
Speaker 1: this movie Whistle coming out February sixth, not negotiable, So
Speaker 1: what is it? That's why I'm willing to they come
Speaker 1: across this Aztec whistle and if you blow and it
Speaker 1: death follows you. It looks so good, I'll send you
Speaker 1: the trailer.
Speaker 2: Is there anybody of note?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so, which means
Speaker 1: even better.
Speaker 2: But like like, well, I have to do it right
Speaker 2: away because this might not be in theaters.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I'm telling you. My spider
Speaker 1: senses are going off. I think this is an underrated
Speaker 1: gem that I think in like a year, everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about Whistle. Like I'm telling you. When I'm watching, like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, Okay, like this, I feel like just the imagery,
Speaker 1: the way the trailers shot, they might be they might
Speaker 1: be snooker in me. I don't know, but I got
Speaker 1: a good feeling. I'll send you the trailer.
Speaker 2: Listen, Yeah, send me the trailer.
Speaker 1: That's not going to compromise on Primate. If you want to,
Speaker 1: don't make it.
Speaker 2: Don't make it seem like this is a because you don't. Okay,
Speaker 2: I honestly don't care between these three.
Speaker 1: Okay, good because you even texted me about Primate, and
Speaker 1: I was so excited when you.
Speaker 2: I texted you because you're the first person I thought about.
Speaker 2: I saw that, I'm like, oh god.
Speaker 1: We both saw the same trailers on during the NFL game.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'd love to see that movie for
Speaker 1: the podcast, And you texted me. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is hid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So okay, good Primate next week. This movie sucks, don't
Speaker 1: see it in theaters. Well next week