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Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw.

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Speaker 2: It's sure is Joe, It's there.

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Speaker 1: Shit's happening. You could call it that if you want.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, it's no, it's no Saturday

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Night's main event show. Let's just be honest. Okay, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I will say I did, like, and it's like, I'm

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not trying to be an asshole because.

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Speaker 2: People like, you know, they're.

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Speaker 1: Allowed whatever the obviously, whatever the fuck they like. But

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some people were like leaving us full fucking thesis statements

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on that Saturday Night Main event video.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was actually very good because of these reasons.

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And I was like, all right, hey, I'm glad. I'm

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glad that, uh, you're having fun. Like once again, I'm

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not trying to fucking completely yuck. You're young here, but

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all right, it really fine and finding some corn in

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that pile of shit, man, like you're really going, you're

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going full steam ahead. It's it's weird, dude, it is

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very very weird.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's it's a mixed bag. Like I understand

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what some of the people like, you know what I mean,

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I'm glad that the matches are still a strong point

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for a lot of people because it seems like what

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they hold on to, and it seems like even when

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the storylines and the performance and the entertainment side of

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the show is pretty rough. Uh to put it nicely,

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it seems like people hold on to the idea that, hey,

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but the wrestlers can wrestle.

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Speaker 1: They're not terrible in the ring, and it's like, well, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's multiple facets to this, right, being able

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to perform the moves is one facet and you're right,

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it's good that these guys aren't out there breaking each

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other's next because a they're assholes or be there just unseasoned.

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But at the same time, there's reasons for the storylines,

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there's reasons for the moves, there's reasons for these matches

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that really don't add up to a good match, Like

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it's I don't know, Joe, I think uh. I think

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sometimes a lot of fans compartmentalize their fandom. They just

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take bits and pieces out, which which is again fine, right,

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like you're not trying to yuck, they're young. But at

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the same time, it's like, can't we just appreciate something

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on the whole? Can't something be or or deliver on

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all different levels, at least to a mediocre degree. It

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just feels like I shouldn't have to dissect every fucking

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thing in order to determine, in order to weigh it

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out like some kind of fucking scale whether I enjoyed

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it or not.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well it is like, uh, what's what's the way

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I'm looking for here? It's one of those uh maybe

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not a double edged sword. I'm trying to think of

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the right word here where you want to say, yeah,

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I mean, don't look too much into it and just

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you know, go on the vibes and how you feel

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about it. And then also at the same time, like

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I've now gotten to the point where I watch Monday

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Night Raw and I see what happens to it and

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it's less of a TV show and more of like

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an examination of something that I used to know and understand,

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and it's strange decay and decline and like, what what

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was this? What was this thing that once happened and

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where did it go? Like what is the audience for

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this anymore? It's got to be the actually interested in it,

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really has to be the youngest. That's the only thing

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I can think of. It just doesn't make sense any

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other way that the old heads, that the eighties watchers,

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that the nineties watchers are seeing this going, wow, you

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guys are wrong. This stuff is way better than the

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eighties this. I mean, look, it's clearly better than Macho

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Man and Ricky Steamboat.

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Speaker 2: It's clearly clearly better than big personalities like Ultimate Warrior

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Bam bam, bigelow. It's I mean, it's it's awesome theory. Guys,

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come on, it's just.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Austin's theory. Now, it's like in lieu of

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a character. His thing now is he just grabs another

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man's wife's ass.

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Speaker 2: He's that's he's That's what it is. And I hate

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to say it, but I guess what should I say? Millennial?

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He's he's millennial ravishing rick Rude, Like.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's the case. Like it's

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just honest to god, well he watched.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest. The idea that he's pulling maccine is

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it's it's above him. He doesn't. He doesn't seem like

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a character, uh that in the real world you look

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at Oh yeah, he totally pulled a mac Seinte like,

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but it.

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Speaker 1: Is and it isn't. At the same time, because I mean,

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he's a pretty boy for sure. I know that they

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they thought they could gruff him up by telling them.

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Speaker 2: He looks like a Brisco at this point.

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Speaker 1: Come on, no, all right, let's let's let's be he'd

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be the most handsome of the Brisco says. They tried

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to brisco him, Sir. They were like, what if we

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give you a bus kit, you grow a little beard,

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And I'm like, come on, come on, he's still like

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a twink pretty boy.

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Speaker 2: Like that's widow's peak, is getting awfully high just saying

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you know, well.

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Speaker 1: That's it is when they have to make a conscious

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effort to gap you know, they're not a bad looking person.

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When they're trying to they're like, look, we're gonna make

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you ugly, bag. You're gonna get a haircut, and it's like,

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phot come on, come on, that's not what this dude is.

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Speaker 2: They didn't do that to Logan, which which is great

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I guess for him too. But I always kind of

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thought that Austin Theory and Logan Paul were kind of

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supposed to be like parallels of one another, and Austin

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theory is starting to look like the other Steiner brother

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the other lifesteiner as opposed trying to stay in the

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zeitgeist of Logan Paul.

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Speaker 1: So do you know what though, like, had he not

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gotten hurt, i'd have been didn't I don't want to

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say all in on it, I wouldn't have been like

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this is the greatest thing. But I remember right from

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the jump, I'm like, that's a good tag team. It

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makes sense. It makes sense for those guys to be together. Yeah,

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Logan Paul has the personality Austin theory is going to

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be able to keep a match together because it's not

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as though, in any way, shape or form, he's like

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a bad, shitty wrestler that doesn't know what he's doing

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in the ring. He's just a dull pretty boy. And

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that's you know, that's why Vince was into a Vince

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was into dull pretty boys.

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Speaker 2: I mean the character wise, like him and Logan Paul

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look like they listened to the same Nickelback album, you know.

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Like it's just it made sense watching them out there

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together as characters, and now they don't even look like

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they belong in the same stable. It's just it's a

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matter of fact. If anything, Logan Paul might be the

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prettiest one in this whole fucking stable. Now, I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're getting to the point. Yea, Logan Paul

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is over there, Well, Logan Paul, and you know, respect

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to him happens all of us, especially when they more

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than likely have at some point the substances that he

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may have. Allegedly that hair is going on on that boy,

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that hair is going Yeah, he might be uh, he

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might be taking a trip to Turkey soon. That that's

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a possibility, which if which, if that's the case, it's like,

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say they do that whole deal where Logan Paul comes back.

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more of a proponent of hair versus hair matches because

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at least it's a thing, like I noticed last week

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but I'm like, at least it's a thing, like it's

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a stipulation that's like wrestling oriented as opposed to whatever

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the fuck it is that we're watching at this point, right,

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But no, like Maxine and Maxine too, she's also like

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I get aesthetically obviously, you know you're going for the

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Stacy Keebler saying, but she's dull, she doesn't have a

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big personality.

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Speaker 2: Really, all I got from her personality Monday and even

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watching the between the commercials interviews that she did with

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like Iron Saxton, she is trying her damnedest to be

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Live Morgan.

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Speaker 1: She's working, she's trying to give you that I'm a

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me nasty bit.

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Speaker 2: But even the closeness like jumping all over theory the

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way that Lived it with Dominic, when Live in Dominic

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did that shit well, even when Domin riha to a

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little bit lesser of a point, but when Live did

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that with Dominic, that was just so grating and annoying

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and it worked for them because of the character differences

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between Live Morgan and Rio ripley Ria being way more

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stoic and obviously totally into dom as the character. But

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Live was more hands on and she was evil using

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her body and she was coming out there with the

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fucking butt hugger shorts that you saw her heartbeat through

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her asshole. And now Maxine is trying to pull that

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with Austin Theory, and it's like, ah, I would have

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almost been okay with this type of mimicry if she

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was doing that with Logan Paul instead of Austin theory.

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Speaker 1: You're not Yeah, you're not wrong, you're not wrong. But

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then but then we'd have this weird conversation. And this

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is also where I don't get this either, where if

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they were like, well, if you put her with Logan Pulp,

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but we all know Logan Paul's married. Yeah, we all

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know Maxine's married too. We all know Dominic Mysterious married.

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Like it's the weirdest, you know, like it's it's so

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odd because they can't wait to which I know they

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released the new season of the show, the unscripted show

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or whatever they're calling it, Like I for some reason,

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the name just.

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Speaker 2: Will not uncastrated is what it's called. This unneutered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they're trying to do with Jacob, right, No,

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I they can't wait to pull the curtain back, and

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then they don't realize how that doesn't take away from

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the story lines, you know, Like it's it's very odd

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to me, Like it's like, yeah, we all know that

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Caine wasn't a burned victim.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was a fun fandom. Though that's the problem too, right,

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Like I get that, right, we understand that all these

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people are married and shit. But it's almost as if

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the fandom crosses over and picks and chooses what it

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gets upset about, like this isn't real enough, this is

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too real and so, you know what, I don't understand.

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So if you're going to watch the show and enjoy

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the characters for what they are, then stop believing that

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this ship is real if you're not right. And so

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I understand what you mean with like you know, she's

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married and he's married, and like that. I just said

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that Logan Paul in Maxine makes sense because Logan Paul

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is already the big star. So you can imagine a

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girl pawing all over.

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Speaker 1: Him, onto him and trying to get clout. Yeah, no,

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you're right, that's that would fit. That would fit the

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theme of the character, right, it's supposed to be I'm

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getting away from these two fucking you know, these two

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chuckle fucks, and I'm trying to get into the big Hollywood,

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like I want to go, I want to go sit

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inside UFC, a big celebrity.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that could be a storyline too. Maybe it

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turns out that Maxine's polyamorous.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh polyamorous? Is that a new girl in

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t NA po No, and maybe that's Lyrius next move.

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Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, lys lys Stocking? Who did she fucking run

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up on Soul? Did you watch that ship? That fucking interview?

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So yeah, this is all the between the commercial ship.

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I've been finding myself enjoying watching.

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Speaker 1: More than the show because the the.

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Speaker 2: Byron Saxon stuff is almost funnier because it's like, here

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you go, here's something to watch during the commercials. That's

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Soul out there kind of hyping herself up. And Lyra

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comes out there and goes, yeah, yeah, you're just big ship.

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Aren't you wearing my belt that I fucking made? Aren't you? Bitch?

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And salts like, uh, are you okay? Is there something

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wrong with you? What's that smell? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn get that. I didn't get that promo.

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I'm sure though, that it's not awkward at all because

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Soul has the personality of a dead dog, and she.

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Speaker 2: Was just like, you know, I'm out here, I'm gonna

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have a match soon, and hey, I appreciate all of

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you for liking me, and fucking Lyra just drunkenly walks

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up yeah, and she's just like you fucking bitch, buddy,

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you're doing wearing my health. It's like, God, damn dude,

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who let this cuckoo bar?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who let this like mentally ill, fucking nasty bitch

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roam around and a.

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Speaker 2: Street fight like soul is high surfer girl? Yeah, well,

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when the high surfer girl is looking at you like

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you got the drug problem, maybe there's something off about

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the character just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, what is this a sublime concert? Let's get

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this ship, clean this up. By the way, that is

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kind of that is kind of odd, and I think

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that it's should be done kind of across the board.

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I think WWE needs to make this more uniform again,

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where if you like, if you like cripple someone on

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the television show, you should get suspended.

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Speaker 2: Oh I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If that just seems like what do we got a

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whole wrestling company, a Draymond Greens. You just never get

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in trouble for anything. You're just allowed to stomp on

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people's dicks and set them on fire and shit and

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no one cares. Like, it's very weird to me that

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that happens. Where it's like, wait, so what happened? So

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she fucking just fucked Bailey up and took her off

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the TV show, and then they're like, man, it's all right.

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Speaker 2: They didn't even give her a proper promo about it.

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Once again, in between the commercials, that's all she did.

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She's like, yeah, I got rid of Bailey. What did

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you do with your fucking life?

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Speaker 1: Saul? This sounds like covering her drink. She doesn't want

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her to spit on it. It's like it's fucking nasty.

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It's like when you're at a bar and it's just

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like something gross nasty. They just get too close to you, like, yeah,

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fucking gross ass person.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, it's sorry. There. He's like, this is why

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people can't keep up with the show storyline. Almost during

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the commercials, I wouldn't be surprised if she was actually

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trunk Street, Like, well, Jay was there.

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Speaker 1: It is a possibility, yo, Irish girl, let's get some

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fucking tricks.

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Speaker 2: In us, yo, Like.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you drunk, that's the next romance angle instead of

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having Jay with like this is literally.

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Speaker 2: Hot rebound black girl friend.

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Speaker 1: He's a smelly, smelly, alcoholic clire about stereo.

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Speaker 2: God damn.

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Speaker 1: Damn g talk about a rebound yo.

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Speaker 2: I got I got a match with Saul.

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Speaker 1: Once again, they're like, hey, wait a second, isn't he

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with that like smoking hot chick that wrestles down at

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an XT They're like, nah, it's not forget it, Hey,

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no attention to this.

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Speaker 2: It's all like you blew a marriage. Yeah, do you

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know how dude? It is?

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Speaker 1: Really it is fucking weird to me because we're looking

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at what's going on with the show with some of this,

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and once again it does go back to the reality

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show where they're like, let's peel back the curtain. Isn't

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this amazing. We're gonna put a Netflix show that tells

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you all of these people's lives and it's directly next

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to the fucking raw screen on that so click from

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this one of that one. It's like, you don't have

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to go searching for it. I talked about Caine earlier

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and him being yeah, he.

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Speaker 2: Was the dentist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the idiots like us that fucking read the internet

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knew that in nineteen ninety seven, ninety ninety eight, right,

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Like that wasn't on WWE television. They weren't saying we're

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going to make a reality show. And it's about how

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Caine used to be a dentist, right, and now look

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at this, you know, like that was the fandom seeking

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out that information. Now they're just rubbing your face in

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the piss and then trying to make a TV show.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I think that's the other thing though too. I

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still think it's like a controlled narrative, right, like no

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put to the cyn But in the vein that we've

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always hungered as wrestling fans for shoot interviews, we've always

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enjoyed behind the scenes drama. With this show, I feel

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like this is WWE's way of rewriting history before people

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can keep it in the books, before before the rumors

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and the conjecture take a life of its own, you know,

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life on its own or of its own even maybe.

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So it's just one of those things that I think

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that's why this show is so popular. It's dark side

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of the ring, but told by WWE. It's kind of

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like you can't make fun of us if we make

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fun of ourselves first, you know, oh yeah, we fucked

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it up, and see we're admitting it. We're cool, right,

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It's and.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's just like Ralphie May and that worked

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out well, right, Like this is this is what we're

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watching like I I don't understand once again, where you

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have this fucking show where it's like, hey, look here's

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Maxine getting married, and then we're gonna do a relationship angle.

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And then meanwhile, Damian Priest is like sitting around staring

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at the wall, and they're like, yeah, we're gonna put

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your smoking, hot, fucking girlfriend with the lizard guy in Mexico.

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It's like, Damian Priest needs help help him, Yeah, give him,

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give him the actual woman he's in a relationship with,

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and try to do something.

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Speaker 2: Jesus somebody called bad Bunny back something like Damian Pries

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is another one that's fallen just like Killer or crossed it,

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you know what I mean. Like, in a lot of ways,

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here's another very talented person. And I remember us having

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a lot of back and forth with people too that

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some people just felt that cross was never special, there

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was nothing talented about the guy, and I just kind

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of found that oblivious. But here we are with Damian Priest,

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and I know for a while there you felt a

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way about Damien Priest that wasn't very flattering to the guy.

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I've always kind of been in the corner of the guy.

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But it's almost as if his star has fallen so far.

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Could he ever get back to the point of being

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main event conversation? Could he ever become that guy again?

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Because he's got the look, he's got this size. I

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think in the ring he's not awful. I like his

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little mannerisms that he does that makes him unique. Like

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I said, it's a flashback to the days of people

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like road Dog and Dlo Brown where they added a

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little flare to their boring punches to make it something unique.

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And it's like Damien Priest has a natural chrisma about himself,

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let alone the crazy enough work ethic of coming from

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a fucking four hundred pound dude and dropping himself into

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a fucking Latin madonnas. You know, like, there's nothing wrong

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about this guy on any facet, and he did really

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well in the judgment day. People seem to forget that,

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but you're right. They got him staring in the corner

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like he did something wrong, Like he's gonna get smacked

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with the magazine at the end of the day, and

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I don't know what they're gonna do to fix him.

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He almost feels like a guy who's going to get

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cut soon, or they're gonna or they're gonna cut his

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contract in half and now he's gonna be working for peanuts.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, yeah, well this this is also the

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problem too, is like real life throws them a lob

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ball and they refuse to swing like he is. Is

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it possible that he'll never ever be able to become

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a main event world champion? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Like maybe maybe not right, but he could at least

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be a mid card cocky, big heel with a hot

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girl with him. That's like, look at my fucker you

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you know, fuck you man, Like you're never gonna get

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a girl looks like this, Like at least that's a

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that's something. And she has the ability to pull that

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off too, where like Maxine just like makes a poopy

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face and she's just like, yeah, a poopy face. I'm

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like this is boring and no one believes.

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Speaker 2: She's trying to be lived now. Like literally this week, Joe,

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this Monday was her real coming out as Live Morgan's

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big sister, little sister, Like that's that's what it is,

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And there was so many similarities, like I don't know, man,

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her her attachment to theory is almost a splitting image

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of what domin lived were absolutely so, yes, you're right,

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all these things. Somebody must have hit her up. Somebody

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must have told her, hey, can you get a personality?

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Can you look like you do more than one thing? Good? Uh?

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And she's like, I know I can copy other people

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and they're like, great, do that?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, how about you copy someone that's not on

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twenty minutes after you that? How about not that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, we heard copying fucking Alexa Bliss. I'lla

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bray Wyatt now. So I don't fucking know.

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Speaker 1: Right, but at least that's been off television for seven years,

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well you know what I mean? Like it's And by

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the way, I think Damian Priese was on the mind

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because I did see the shit that he's doing in

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Tripaa yea, and you know, ta da, it's the exact

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thing I've been saying he should have been doing right

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after the Bad Bunny matches, doing the promos in Spanish,

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just looking like a guy that kicks ass. He was

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way more comfortable, Like I saw him doing the promo

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and I was like, where is this guy? Why am

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I looking at this?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was his biggest problem before though, too. When we

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talked about that was he couldn't figure out who he

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was and one minute and it was a running gag

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even between me, you and Kevin. It's like, one minute,

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this guy is the Latin guy, like he's fucking referencing

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things Spanish. The next minute he's a hardcore New York dude,

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and then he's like a yo yo hip hop guy.

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It was like, Wow, where the fuck are we going

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with this character? And then he was just relaxed, normal

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dude hanging out in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: It's so he needs to wearing purple pleather yea. And

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by the way, like I get it, New York is

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very eclectic. I know the people there culturally are very

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you know what I mean. Like it's the same way

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as like, even though I'd make fun of a dude

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like Andrew Schultz and now he's obviously clean, let's let's

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just say he's code switched. He's not doing his like

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yo gee, let's go you know, mad hill yo, Like

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he's he's cut back on that. But at least there

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was that part of me where I'd see him and

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I'd go, oh, this is what like white kids in

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New York will do.

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Speaker 2: They'll be like yo, look at me.

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Speaker 1: I'm down at the basketball court jog. Yeah. Gee, and

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you're like, oh my fucking god, cut it out, dude,

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go go go eat it fucking Wendy's and say it's spicy.

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Speaker 2: Coming from like six foot to Latin dude, you know, just.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like pick it, yeah, pick a thing and

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go with it. Right, It's fine, you know. And yeah,

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it's like okay, here's uh, you know, street fighters posting

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all this ship like it's he's in his leather vest

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and he's looking like a big guy. He's wearing jeans. Wow,

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imagine that putting him in jeans.

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Speaker 2: It's like this. You think he had to get fitted

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for those or do you think he just had a

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pair in his gym bag? Yeah? I know, right.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Undertaker might have just looked at him,

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like can you imagine the face he probably gave him,

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like a like a complete like queer eye face, you

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know where he like looks them in the gear and

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he just.

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Speaker 2: Goes I'd love that Undertak like licked his yeah, licked

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his thumb and like, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Honey, can we get you some jeans? This is not

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this is giving ninety six like dar a little of

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this hot girl. Does she let you dress like that? Honey?

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Like come on no, But like that's the funny thing

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to me is, once again you have this TV show

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where they're just constantly trying to pet like paddle upstream

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with ship that makes no sense and isn't really good

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going to go anywhere or work. And then they're like, hey,

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love ball, catch it and they go, oh.

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Speaker 2: Good, I don't want to play ball. You're not my dad.

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Yeah you're not. You're not my dad.

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Speaker 1: Common sense, reason and basic fucking storytelling and writing and logic.

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You're not my real dad, right right, Yeah, that's a

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good point. We should just keep trying to fucking do

467
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,160
all this shit that makes no sense and doesn't do

468
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,039
anything for anything.

469
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: Raw Again. Look, I hate to say, but Raw Again

470
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:41,480
was absolutely entertaining if you're watching it the wrong way,

471
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,759
absolutely entertaining. I had a good time. A lot of Dominic,

472
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,839
a lot of Dominic, a lot of comedy segments on Monday.

473
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,279
I know that, uh, that's been in the pipeline for

474
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,559
a while, that Dominic was going to get more TV time,

475
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:57,680
more storyline time. Boy, oh boy, do they they couldn't

476
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,480
wait to just turn him into a into a joke,

477
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:01,359
could they.

478
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were Russian. They were Russian the goof fucking

479
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:08,680
logic and storytelling if you want to call it that.

480
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:10,279
For him, they just couldn't wait.

481
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: Speaking of Russian goofs. Huh Man Russev is a fucking dork.

482
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: Now, huh. Like that's done.

483
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, Now he's got a catchphrase that Ethan Page

484
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,880
has to decipher for everybody. I'm just like, oh, this

485
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,920
is us.

486
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: Honestly, like I said, it's not even a TV show

487
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,559
that I watch anymore that I go, oh, well, like

488
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,559
it's it's almost just like a weird psychological study, you know,

489
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:44,920
where I'm looking at the characters and I'm looking at

490
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,200
the reaction of the audience. I mean, I would say

491
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,960
of this whole night, and obviously we could just jump

492
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,640
around all the ship.

493
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

494
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,039
Speaker 1: Probably the most sobering thing for me as far as

495
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,599
like what the crowd is in twenty two twenty six

496
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,400
and the divide between the people who are still paying

497
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:07,000
to be in the building and the people that are

498
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:12,079
still watching it at home feeling disappointed and confused. And

499
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,119
you know, whatever you want to say is La Night

500
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:20,720
coming out and cutting that chromo and I'm thinking to myself,

501
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,000
he's talking to an audience that won't pay for tickets anymore.

502
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:32,200
That's who he's talking to. Like, the crowd is confused

503
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,480
because he's coming out and just he's telling the truth.

504
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,359
He's like, yeah, I get it. All this Shield shit

505
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,440
was shot down your fucking throats for fifteen years, No

506
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,359
wonder you're cheering for it. Remember when no one gave

507
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,000
a fuck about Roman for seven years and then he

508
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,240
finally found a thing that worked, and now you people

509
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:53,519
fucking blonde onto it and now you just can't help yourselves.

510
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:59,480
And the audience is like, I'm paid to see the Shield, guys,

511
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,799
that's what they've That's what it is. So the audience

512
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:08,640
at home that you chased off through prices and through

513
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:14,039
a fucking fifteen years of pushing Roman rings and seth

514
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:19,359
for rollins constantly and the Samoan fucking slop, like those

515
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,799
people are still if they are watching it home going.

516
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,519
Speaker 2: Fuck Elle night, way to go.

517
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: And the people in the crowd are like, oh no, no,

518
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,039
that's what I paid to say.

519
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:31,359
Speaker 2: I paid to.

520
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: Chant for the Samoan. Heel, babyface heal, babyface heel. That's

521
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,279
I'm still the person that's going to put money down

522
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:44,039
for a ticket because that's what I actually like. So

523
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,359
the people that would go to the show who would

524
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:50,359
all dissent from it or feel a sort of way

525
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,039
about that, they're gone. They're gone. And I know it's

526
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,960
like it's one crowd. Sure you could just say, well,

527
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,359
you're just you're basing this off one group with people

528
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,680
or whatever, the fuck, But do you think La Knight

529
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,720
could cut that promo and yeah, half the cities that

530
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:07,680
they go to and get a good reaction anymore.

531
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: No. The problem with that crowd that they cut off though,

532
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:15,799
it's the loudest crowd, way louder than the casuals, way louder.

533
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,480
And they're the ones that don't forget. They're the ones

534
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,640
that will continue to pester and troll and shit all

535
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,039
over WWE forever and ever until they fix themselves. So

536
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,759
it's like, yeah, sure, or fine, you got rid of

537
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:32,359
a majority of your paying customers and now you're going

538
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,000
to try and gardner new fans with this half hearted

539
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:41,160
product with half hearted storylines and half hearted matches, And

540
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,720
do you think you're going to explode because all of

541
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:46,720
your marketing team can squeeze every dime out of fucking

542
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:50,039
whatever the hell they see. It's just I don't know, man,

543
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,000
it's a recipe for disaster. It is literally riding this

544
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:57,079
until the wheels fall off. I don't see much of

545
00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,599
a future for it. When LAE Knight is talking to people,

546
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,039
I got it's like you said, you know, it's you're

547
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:05,920
not wrong. And the thing is is it makes more sense.

548
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,119
It's almost romantic coming from l A. Knight because we

549
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:17,480
know he's doomed. Like it's kind of like the last

550
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:20,079
man on the ship, you know, and it's not the captain,

551
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:25,720
and he's just like, well, I mean, I guess I'm

552
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:26,880
going down. Guys.

553
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: It's like you're watching that that movie where it's like

554
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,359
a maybe like a romantic whatever drama movie, and the

555
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,599
guy just keeps go visiting his dad in the hospital, yeah,

556
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:40,119
you know.

557
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Or grandma or his mom, and he's the musicians on

558
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,160
the Titanic they didn't have to go down, but they

559
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,200
chose to. They knew what was happening.

560
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: L A. Knight's got the fucking heart, moner.

561
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: Arn.

562
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: He's just like, you gotta trust your gut, trust your gut, honey,

563
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,799
you gotta believe yourself, you know, We're like, come on, La,

564
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,240
you're gonna get up soon again.

565
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,039
Speaker 2: You're gonna be right around.

566
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna be taking your sunglasses off real fast.

567
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

568
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:12,559
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one.

569
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,279
Speaker 2: You just called himself the going marry. At this point,

570
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,359
it can just burn him alive. It's just a l. A.

571
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Knight is the last purveyor of doom. He is, He's

572
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:27,480
the last one. He's like, trust me, after this, there's nothing.

573
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:33,799
There is nothing. I'm tired, boss. I am the last

574
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,160
gas station across the desert. That's what it is.

575
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you better get yourself a peanut and some pop

576
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,640
because you ain't gonna eat me for a while.

577
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: And past summer slim. I feel like that is all desert.

578
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,720
That's all desert. What are we gonna get guys? Oh man,

579
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:59,039
I can't wait for that. Lyra's Soul Survivor Series cage match.

580
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:06,119
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah hell. Isn't it great that Lyra has

581
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,519
barely had the opportunity to catch her breath or even

582
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,759
get in the vicinity of be a character that people

583
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:14,839
are supposed to give a shit about at all, and

584
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,839
they're already gonna just shift gears and be like, all right,

585
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,720
Lyra now you're gonna make soul look good?

586
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:27,079
Speaker 2: So what ooh what about Cody cmpunk five at Survivors series?

587
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,279
What be day?

588
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's rough outs here. But once again, when

589
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,599
I'm watching the show and La Knight's cutting this promo

590
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,359
and he is fully entrenched in the I am the underdog.

591
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:48,119
I'm saying the thing that this the audience wants to

592
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,079
hear me say this, and I'm like, yeah, the audience

593
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:56,680
at home, that's that's how much they've fucked this thing up.

594
00:33:57,359 --> 00:34:00,880
Where half a dozen years ago, seven years ago, eight

595
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,599
years ago, the guy, you know, even when Sena was

596
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,440
there for foxs sake, anyone that would have looked at

597
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,000
John Cena you're full of shit. Oh yeah, woo. Now

598
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,320
these people can't even look at go Roman Reigns, you're

599
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,159
full of shit because the crowd's like, but.

600
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: I like Roman, I like him, use my tribal chief.

601
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: You know.

602
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,159
Speaker 2: The problem is when you say things like this, they

603
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,199
hear you fucking call out Roman like this and Roman

604
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,519
fans and they think that you're talking directly about them.

605
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,840
They really do. As opposed to just talking about the

606
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,039
blanket understated problem of the way that WWE has made

607
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,719
the mistake of pushing this guy releemlessly for years. It

608
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,519
isn't Roman. It could have been anyone. It could have

609
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:47,679
been Jay Luso, and boy did they want it to be.

610
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,559
It could have been It could have been a lot

611
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:54,400
of people. It just happens to be Roman. So if

612
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,239
you're a Roman fan, don't take it personally. Wwe could

613
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,519
have plugged and played anybody into this f and roll.

614
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,320
And that's the problem is that it could have been anybody.

615
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,360
So why couldn't it have been somebody talented?

616
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: Wow, someone who even would register as slightly above average?

617
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: Right, right? So it doesn't have you know, slur of

618
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:20,679
blood disease.

619
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,199
Speaker 1: I just see it, right, what compounded with the fact

620
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:29,719
that they're barely there at all, ever, and seemingly that's okay.

621
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,840
I just it is such a revisionist and I know

622
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,599
WW is great at that. They're great at the revision

623
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,320
history because it's wrestling. It's a farce. You're selling me

624
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:48,079
a car. I get it, Like, I know what you're doing.

625
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,119
And sure, but we've gotten to this point where it's

626
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:57,840
like the Roman Reigne Samoan thing and it's like, like

627
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,559
I said, him and Seth come out and they cut

628
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,480
promos on each other and the crowd just sits there

629
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,760
and they're like just but their heads that they're just

630
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,320
like fucking buzzing because they don't know what to do.

631
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:11,719
They don't have any really, all they know is they

632
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,360
are like, that's what I like. I'm here for this.

633
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,159
Yay Roman, Yay Seth.

634
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,559
Speaker 2: Is there any emotions reactions from a women's tennis match, Dude,

635
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,920
it's just it's quiet. It's crickets watching this ship half

636
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,679
the time, and it's just it's embarrassing because this is

637
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,800
these are the guys that are representing the company and

638
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:34,599
arguably the second biggest show of the year, I mean,

639
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,920
if you want to believe that or not.

640
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:45,119
Speaker 1: But and and really like just anything involving the Shield guys,

641
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,639
the Shield like it's just slop. And I know they

642
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,679
kept showing, they kept showing these match, Like look at

643
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,679
the history between Roman and Seth throughout the years, and

644
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:04,000
I'm like, yeah, we know, we know, we know, we

645
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,639
all fucking saw it. And I'm sure someone goes, well,

646
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,199
not everybody's fucking what.

647
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:13,559
Speaker 2: We know it's not Back when was with Lana, remember

648
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,559
those days, Remember those days?

649
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:22,559
Speaker 1: Look at this this ancient history, right WWE and how

650
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:23,679
important it is.

651
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,199
Speaker 2: Kevin Owens was beating the ship out of Johnson, Remember

652
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:31,559
those days, Remember those days? Which this is it?

653
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: And I know because the point of conversation is always

654
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:41,440
well Roman Reigne Sina and people try to pretend like

655
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,880
they're even comparable. I'm like, for as much as you

656
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:48,440
dislike Sena or could have hated seen her throughout the years,

657
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,199
and Seena is so fucking overpushed and this that or

658
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,960
the other thing, there's it at least that if you

659
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:58,800
were paying attention, there's a half a dozen John Cena

660
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,320
moments every year or every other year, towards the tail

661
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,400
end of the last let's say, even half decade of

662
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:13,079
his career that mattered, that were interesting. Roman Reigns in

663
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:19,119
a fifteen year run had the bloodline, which was everyone

664
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,440
else plus him, and that's it.

665
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:28,119
Speaker 2: The difference is is the character core Joe Sina represented

666
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,199
a style of babyface that was very eighties. He was pure,

667
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,400
he was unadultered, he was what he was no matter what,

668
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,719
so win, lose, like, dislike whatever. Roman Reigns tried to

669
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,920
make it cool to be the guy that doesn't try,

670
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,519
and unfortunately that was more than just a gimmick that

671
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,239
ended up being part of his personality. It feels like,

672
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:58,159
you know, so when you dislike Sena or the way

673
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,320
that Sina was presented, that's fine because Sena represented something

674
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,400
that you didn't like. Roman is too busy being middle

675
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,360
of the road guy for anybody to give a shit anyways.

676
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: It's and the people that are buying into that, you

677
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,239
can't talk them out of it, you know.

678
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: And I remember, I think I made this.

679
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:24,679
Speaker 1: Point towards like the end of the NBA Finals or

680
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,280
whatever the fuck, where that became a thing in the

681
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,840
NBA somewhat recently, where it's the non chalant NBA era,

682
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,320
you know, where the players doesn't give a fuck.

683
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, hey, you know SGA, you won the MVP,

684
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,519
and he's just like nice, right, It's.

685
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: Like, can you enjoy something? Please? Pretty please? Can you

686
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,440
at least fiend? Like, it doesn't matter if people think

687
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,079
you're cool or not for liking or for doing something

688
00:39:56,119 --> 00:40:00,840
for yourself. And that's that's that entire fucking I don't

689
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,000
even know if it's a generational thing or whatever the

690
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,599
fuck it is, but it's just this entire personality archetype

691
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,800
that's seen as cool and entertaining and cutting edge. Now

692
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,199
it's like, oh, you're so edgy because you don't care

693
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,880
about anything. Look, dude, I'm fucking I'm getting close to

694
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,519
fifty and I still don't fucking care. Jesus, not cool

695
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,000
or edgy, you're an asshole.

696
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: Well there's also like, you know, I guess it goes

697
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,480
back to it and it shows you just the sharp

698
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:36,800
change and mindset of people right where it was really

699
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,400
easy to make fun of Cody for a hot minute

700
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:40,920
because Cody.

701
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: Cared so much.

702
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 1: Right like even going back to the aw days where

703
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,440
Cody would be like hysterically sobbing because he had a

704
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,119
match on Wednesday against fucking Brian Cage or something, and

705
00:40:56,159 --> 00:41:00,159
you're like, all right, like let's relax. This is like yes,

706
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,400
if Cody, But now I'm already getting to a point

707
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:11,000
where I'm slightly nostalgic for three years ago because Cody

708
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:15,880
at least cared, at least he seemed to give a fuck.

709
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:19,679
Was it did he overact? Was it corny at points?

710
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,599
Speaker 2: Yes? Of course? You know.

711
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,199
Speaker 1: Was he a cheeseball draped in an American flag holding

712
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,039
a sparkler?

713
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: Sure, but they wouldn't turn him heel. I mean, honestly,

714
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,320
I think that that was the trajectory of that story,

715
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,559
that that would have made it perfect. As Cody continues

716
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:39,159
to be a babyface, continues to tell people about his

717
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,400
love for his father and his love for wrestling and

718
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,559
proving it, and the fans just eventually become lazed and

719
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:46,639
don't give a shit. And then that's when you turn

720
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,159
Cody heel. That's when you give him the simple storyline

721
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,960
of fuck you too, and then people would have loved him,

722
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,559
which would have been the fucking just the way everything works.

723
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:58,119
Speaker 1: But and this is and this is what's funny, right

724
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,000
because whoever, somebody just put up a picture of old

725
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:04,639
Randy Orton somebody knew in their wrestling life, or shout

726
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:08,360
out to them, Uh, it's Randy Orton. Randy Orton was

727
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,719
kind of almost like the start of that nonchalant wrestler

728
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,400
guy twenty years ago.

729
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,559
Speaker 2: Wasn't Billy Kidman? Yeah right, No?

730
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: I think he was more so just like in Shock,

731
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,159
like he's like Tory Wilson.

732
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: How the fuck did I hear that?

733
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:30,639
Speaker 1: Like he's just he's just walking on eggshells trying to

734
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,320
not fuck that up. I think that was was this

735
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,920
old thing maybe.

736
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: But here's the funny thing.

737
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,199
Speaker 1: Someone I could see say like, well like Raven, and

738
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,360
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

739
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,280
Raven cared too much. He would hide his insecurities by

740
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,800
being the guy that was like, I am a crestfallen

741
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,840
you know, I am a crew that lives in the

742
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,719
Eucharist of the fucking whatever. You know, Like this was

743
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,079
Randy did kind of stop become that guy who was

744
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:00,920
like the out give I don't even give a fuck,

745
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,880
but everyone else around him gave a fuck. And who

746
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,280
was the guy that always was a step above rand

747
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,679
Yorton John Cena, who gave all the fucks. And now

748
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,079
we're at this point where we're back to Roman Reigns,

749
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:19,039
who doesn't fucking care about anything.

750
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,679
Speaker 2: See I was gonna guess Rick Flair, but yeah.

751
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: No, well Rick Flair cares about things in the way

752
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,480
that like a severely brain damaged alcoholic for.

753
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: You know, where are my glass? Very well?

754
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like he's like method acting.

755
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:53,559
Speaker 2: My goodness, did he ja came Phoenix sees uh, sees

756
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:55,800
Ric Flair and goes take it down and you're a

757
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,920
little away that tend un wreck.

758
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Ah joy it, Oh my god, poor Well that's lyra huh.

759
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:10,239
By the way, like I it is funny to me

760
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,280
because I did take a sense of relief though from

761
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,880
the Satura I main event review, where I did see,

762
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,800
like if you clicked on any sort of thing that

763
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,119
was posted about it on any of the Sports Center,

764
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,400
any ESPN, all that shit, every comment was like this

765
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:32,599
is fucking stupid. I saw very very little positive reaction

766
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,480
to it in a way that I was like, all right, good,

767
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:39,920
maybe I'm just not overly being a curmudgeon here because

768
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:44,360
just regular people that are tuned into ESPN or tuned

769
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,119
into Sports Center looking at this, going what is this shit?

770
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,079
Speaker 2: What is this? This is stupid? And that's the best

771
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:52,880
part too, is I saw that we were getting a

772
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,440
lot of shots. You know, they're like, hey, you guys

773
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000
are the one just weeks ago talking about ww we

774
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,239
needs cater to casuals. And it's like, look, there's a

775
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,440
difference because I don't think casuals are finding this shit

776
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,920
attractive either, you know what I mean. And and even

777
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,679
if you're and I know we were talking about that earlier,

778
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,280
about dumping the hardcore fans, it's like that's what you're doing.

779
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,239
You're separating the hardcore fans from the casuals. It's like,

780
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,000
is there a way to maybe do it so that

781
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:21,559
you keep both Like why isn't the goal to make

782
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:27,119
everyone happy? Why isn't the goal to give both sides

783
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,400
just enough to keep their bet their bequet. You know,

784
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:33,960
it's right, it's weird that you have to the only

785
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,679
way that you can show success is by dumping out

786
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,800
a major part of your audience and then just catering

787
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,199
to this tepid new audience that may or may not

788
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,920
be with you past Summer Slam.

789
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,639
Speaker 1: Right, every every year, and I know this year was

790
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:54,519
a bigger example of it, but every year there's a

791
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:58,440
cry baby shit fit about who is the halftime show

792
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,199
of the Super Bowl?

793
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,559
Speaker 2: Every year whoever it is.

794
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: This year was more so because you know, we're fucking

795
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,119
speak American or whatever the fuck. But every year it's like, well,

796
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,519
I don't know why a football fad would want us

797
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,960
see Shakira. It's like, because, believe it or not, not,

798
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:22,000
everybody is you motherfucker because we're casting a huge net, right,

799
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:26,119
but we're also having Shakira come out and be Shakira.

800
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:30,480
We're not having Shakira do the fucking kickoff, you know,

801
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,519
Like Shakira is not kicking the fucking you know, and

802
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,719
now to kick the extra point out comes Ricky Martin,

803
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,679
Like they're not doing that. However, the funny thing is

804
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,360
in wrestling, you can have those things, you can have

805
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,760
those people involved in That is what makes it different

806
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,280
and interesting to where you go back to the trope.

807
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,440
Of course the most recent one. We don't even want

808
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,400
to go back to the eighties even but like Mike Tice,

809
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:05,079
Mike Tyson, you know, punching Sean Michaels. If Mike Tyson

810
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:12,480
just stored next to Sean Michaels and stared blankly, would

811
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:13,559
anyone remember that?

812
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,079
Speaker 2: No, No, because it's not a Well there was also

813
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,960
something that WWE doesn't highlight. Ww he's not going to

814
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,920
give you highlights of that. And then that's where that

815
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:28,280
audience that you threw away would know what that is.

816
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,159
But this is why WW I understand why they want

817
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:35,320
the casual audience. I really do. Financially, it makes perfect

818
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,199
sense because you don't even need shows like Unreal like

819
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,719
they can use shows like Unreal to create those casual

820
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,000
audiences that think that they're deeper fans than they actually are.

821
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,599
So now they have the mindset of, oh, I'm not

822
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,639
just a fan out now I've watched Unreal, I'm a

823
00:47:54,679 --> 00:48:00,559
hardcore fan. I've been watching Unreal for three seasons. I

824
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:03,480
know everything there is to know about wrestling. I've seen

825
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:06,159
all the behind the scenes stuff, and now that's what

826
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,400
you're gonna get. So when you have these moments where

827
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,519
people step outside of the box and make references to

828
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,000
the earlier days, you know it's it's gonna be lost

829
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,880
on them. And chances are not only will it be

830
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,960
lost on them, but it'll be lost on the idea

831
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,239
of even doing it, because then it's like, wrestlers, who

832
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,159
are you doing this for? If nobody fucking gets it

833
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:27,840
in the audience?

834
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: Right, But it's what is what is any of this

835
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:37,519
being done for? But also with the celebrity thing, And

836
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,280
I'm just referencing the Jalen Brunson thing because it's the

837
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,079
soonest thing that oh okay, yes, yeah, And I noticed

838
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:47,039
Anna also said something like has a somebody ever? Has

839
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:49,320
a celebrity ever heard anybody? And it's like, well, yeah,

840
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Travis Scott, And that's why Travis Scott fucking.

841
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: Run away to the They did try to bring him

842
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,719
back at least two other times after that, they just

843
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,280
weren't sure.

844
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why we don't really talk about that anymore,

845
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,320
because he just he busted Cody's ear drum like a dipshit.

846
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,559
But that's kind of the point of why you even

847
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,920
have the celebrity on there to begin with an indie show,

848
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,159
where you'd have the local fucking radio DJ, you know,

849
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,320
come out or the high school principal at the fucking

850
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:28,400
you know indie show. He's gonna give someone a stone

851
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:34,639
cold stunner. Whoa, he's gonna hit somebody with an RKO

852
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:43,199
if he's Telsey and physically, you know, no one's taken

853
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,079
the seventy five year old woman principle and saying, all right,

854
00:49:47,159 --> 00:50:00,440
Canadian destroyer, all right, Margaret, you gotta flip flip Margaret jump. Yeah,

855
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,880
I don't know what's wrong with this Margaret. No work rate. Yeah,

856
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,159
that's whoever she's just she's not even trying out there.

857
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,800
But no, like, that's that's what it was. That's what

858
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,320
you would do, like even like TNA, Jeff Jarrett, Toby

859
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,320
Keith hits you with the fucking guitar right, Like Toby

860
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Keith didn't just come out there and play your courtesy

861
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,639
of the Red, White, and Blue and then fuck off.

862
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,199
Like the point is you put the people on the

863
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,199
show to have the crossover, to have the moment of

864
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,440
the physicality, and a real interaction becomes memorable.

865
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: And the thing is that there's plenty of examples of

866
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:39,559
good interactions with Like, look, did anybody think that Drew

867
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:43,599
Carrey was really healthy? Did anything? Did anybody look at

868
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,880
Pete Rose and go, man, that's a healthy individual. Hey, hey, Kine,

869
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,280
can you tombstone him like twelve to twelve years in

870
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:51,679
a row?

871
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,039
Speaker 1: Like make sure his head is eleven inches off the ground.

872
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:03,320
But that's a point, Like the point of the crossover

873
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,400
is the physicality. It's pro wrestling, and that's what makes

874
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,639
it a moment, and that's what makes it interesting. That

875
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,599
what makes it different. We people could shoot on Snooky

876
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,400
Beig in WrestleMania, but Snooky try to thing.

877
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: Dude, not even just that. Even if you want to

878
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:25,039
go back to basketball players, Dennis Rodman and Carl Malone

879
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:25,559
did more.

880
00:51:26,679 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the fuck, I mean, we kind of

881
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,119
want to pretend to cow cam alone. I think Camlone

882
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:38,920
and Jerry Lawler might have had some good boy you

883
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:40,760
might be in that fucking cor ride.

884
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: No school zones a lot stop at the same school. Yeah,

885
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:51,360
Jesus Christ.

886
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: Guys, what's what all these lollipops in this car? It's

887
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,800
fucking unsettling.

888
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's just Pokemon cards and fucking

889
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,159
Gotcha pods that see what's going on? Boys? Yeah, I'll

890
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:03,719
tell you what.

891
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,599
Speaker 1: It was kind of strange, but a lot of candy

892
00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:08,440
in the car, a lot of hide.

893
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: Snacks, candy hills. You know, It's just.

894
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want to do that one again.

895
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,599
Speaker 2: But uh, I was it was, it was, it was.

896
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: It was an interesting rude yeah, but no, like that's

897
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:26,880
that is why you do that.

898
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:28,079
Speaker 2: That's why you do that.

899
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: Fucking even you know, I don't want to see Tom

900
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,400
Brady do it, but I'm accepting it as an inevitability.

901
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,559
But Tom Brady's like, yeah, I gotta slap Logan Paul

902
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,599
because that's the point, the physicality of it. That's that's

903
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:46,639
what wrestling is. But that's it. It's like just to

904
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:51,679
have someone just stand there next to someone gives a fuck,

905
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,000
gives a fuck.

906
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: It's for no one.

907
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: Oh, this is for the This is for the casuals

908
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,679
who want to see them raise a belt and fireworks

909
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,159
go on off.

910
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: Who is that? Who is that?

911
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, couple, you know, I get it, Like I'm not

912
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,679
trying to shoot on New York again, but it's like, yeah,

913
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,239
guys in New York wearing Tim's being like yeah, it's down.

914
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,440
That's fucking down, ass or whatever the fuck they say, like, yeah,

915
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,159
this is great, whooped the ship.

916
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: I just want to thank New York for their purchase

917
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,840
of purchases of timber Timberland boots from me. I just

918
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,039
thank you very much.

919
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,079
Speaker 1: They're helping you out.

920
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 2: They're doing a good job, doing a great job in

921
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,320
New York.

922
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, keep buying them, keep buying them. Shout out

923
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,280
Jada kiss my favorite New Yorker.

924
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

925
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: No, it is raw in general, and what they're trying

926
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,920
to do with the stories and the different people on

927
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,159
the show. It's a character study. It's not a television

928
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,199
show anymore. Like I said, it's a character study. You

929
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,360
look at what they're talking about.

930
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk about characters. Let's talk about Jacob Fasu.

931
00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, I.

932
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: I don't wow. I mean the joke about neutering Jacob

933
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,519
fatu was bad enough when Cole said it, but now

934
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:13,880
it's almost like they're trying to follow through. And now

935
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,400
he's getting the finger pointed at his chest because it's

936
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,000
going like, you can't do ship. You can't do ship

937
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,199
because your boss didn't tell you to do ship. Pussy

938
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,119
do I get you? Is my bitch? You like you

939
00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:31,119
can juggle my balls after I win the bound from

940
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:37,159
your old man. It's like Jesus Christ, I know what

941
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:40,079
he's like. But the treble chief told me to do it.

942
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,599
But but but but but but shut up water boy, Like.

943
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: The mama said, I can't hit you.

944
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: Roman said, Roma is not okay.

945
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I hit you like this is once again we are

946
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:02,119
we are come up with new creative ways to make

947
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:05,239
people fucking completely useless.

948
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: To make Romans to make money useless.

949
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,199
Speaker 4: There Jacob thoughts who had a genuine, decent following, and

950
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,119
it's like, who's gonna stay in this guy's corner watching

951
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:19,039
him be a bitch for Roman for no reason other

952
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:21,480
than he got chili pepper necklace.

953
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: You got chili pepper neicks. I gotta obey? Is he gonna?

954
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: Is he gonna stand up to him? Someday who cares.

955
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: Probably yes, probably not, because that's not the story. The bloodline.

956
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:37,280
You fall in line and that's it, and if you don't,

957
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,360
you're out of the family. There's nothing.

958
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes nowhere and it never ends. That's what

959
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,119
it is. It goes nowhere and it never ends. And Jacob,

960
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,639
like you said, you took a cool guy. He took

961
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:56,559
an actual interesting, cool guy and now he's just a

962
00:55:56,679 --> 00:56:01,079
little suckophant again and the biggest mistake. And now they're

963
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,679
months removed from it, so they can't ever go back

964
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,960
to it. But with Cole saying that on commentary and

965
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,000
then Jacob Otu not responding to it, you're dead in

966
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:14,440
the water.

967
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: You're dead in the water. That's it. That is fucking

968
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,400
this point.

969
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: I know he should like that's that is one of

970
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:27,199
those moments where, like I said, if this had happened

971
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,159
at any other time in pro wrestling, Michael Cole would

972
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:32,480
have walked to the back and gotten fucking punched in

973
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,079
the face and they would have been right to hit him.

974
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,039
Speaker 2: Note I got to give Michael Cole and Corey Graves credit.

975
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,880
This week they pulled a Bobby and Gorilla bit that

976
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,119
actually had me laughing my ass off when they were

977
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:49,400
talking about how much Otis stinks as a person, like

978
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,000
he just smells. Corey was doing his best to be

979
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:56,239
Bobby and fucking Michael Cole on point is just doing

980
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,760
the will you stop, and I fucking I laughed. I

981
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,119
fucking howell. They caught me off guard. Them just making

982
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:06,559
fun of Otis's odor was just it was classic. It

983
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:07,679
was classics.

984
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,119
Speaker 1: But you know what is killing me though, is I'm

985
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,800
waiting for the Michael cole retirement because I want Corey

986
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,719
doing play by play and I Kevin Owens, if you

987
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:24,039
are done, please be done and get Michael Cole off commentary.

988
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:27,159
Let Corey Graves be the straight man. You do color commentary.

989
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,280
I'm fucking begging for that announced team. Not because I

990
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,719
think Corey Graves is like the greatest fucking thing in

991
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,199
the world, but he's a good straight man when he

992
00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:40,119
does triple A. And I think a guy like Kevin Owens,

993
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:45,239
who actually is a seasoned wrestler, the audience knows he's quick,

994
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,000
he's sharp, he's funny, he has a pedigree. He could

995
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:52,760
make the show interesting. They desperately need something like that.

996
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,199
Speaker 2: They've had those a few times over the years. I

997
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:58,239
think even Booker t was funny once once upon a time.

998
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,000
I liked Wade for a while there too. Way it

999
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,480
feels so watered down, and it's almost like he's been

1000
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:07,079
beaten into this shell of his former self. So it's

1001
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:10,199
not as if all the color commentary guys have been bad.

1002
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,880
But yeah, Kevin Owens, it would absolutely be refreshing to

1003
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,599
have him in there.

1004
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: So imagine him with a straight man, Corey Graves. That

1005
00:58:18,519 --> 00:58:22,320
would actually be good. That'd be good. And yes they did.

1006
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,519
They have their moments. Michael Cole and Corey Graves have

1007
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:26,079
their moments.

1008
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I was very surprised. Like I said, I

1009
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,480
had to point it out. It was just it was odd,

1010
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:32,639
it was funny. It caught me off guard, and it

1011
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:36,599
was it was absolutely eighties stick. It's absolutely Gorilla and

1012
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:39,320
Bobby Stick that they were doing to start off the shot.

1013
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:42,159
Speaker 1: But then they did then they kind of wiped that,

1014
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:46,440
kind of wiped that whole good moment out when later

1015
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:50,760
on they did the thing with La Knight and him

1016
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,880
laying into Roman and then the commentators have no idea

1017
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,360
how to react to it because all they've been told

1018
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,480
to do for fifteen years is talk about how amazing

1019
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:03,239
Roman reigns is. They're like, what do I say? It's

1020
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,360
like Stockholm syndrome.

1021
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know what to do.

1022
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:08,119
Speaker 1: We don't know how. They had no idea how to

1023
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,239
respond to what he had said. And Cory Graves, who's

1024
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,119
supposed to be like the light heel of the show

1025
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:19,119
or whatever. He's supposed to be the voice of the

1026
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,920
people in the audience, or he's supposed to kind of

1027
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,960
punch things up. How doesn't he make any reference to

1028
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,280
the fact of anything La Knight's at Oh he doesn't say. Yeah,

1029
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,639
he doesn't go you know what, La Knight. You know

1030
00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:35,760
he's got a point there for what it's worth. Yeah,

1031
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,639
he might be the tribal chief now, but what do

1032
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,039
we just kind of pretend that all that didn't happen,

1033
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:43,239
that he used to come out here begging for people

1034
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,239
to cheer for him, and babba baba bah nothing.

1035
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: Nothing.

1036
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,239
Speaker 1: There's no reference to it, because the whole show is

1037
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,480
built around a guy who's nonchalant and barely there and

1038
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:56,840
doesn't give a fuck and is probably the least talented,

1039
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,079
most overpushed professional wrestler of all time. My fucking words,

1040
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,559
on that. Anybody who'd like to present me with someone

1041
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:11,480
else who has been pushed for fifteen straight years, Dan Housen. Yeah,

1042
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:20,519
that's right. If in the year twenty forty one, that's serious.

1043
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:24,920
Right now, in the year twenty forty one, if Dan

1044
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:29,960
Housen is still coming out, yeah, going uh getting pushed,

1045
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,239
that would be a little much, don't you think?

1046
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,559
Speaker 2: Oh he kept no as Sean's right, He's like, how

1047
01:00:35,559 --> 01:00:38,320
about Cole calling Joe Henry Joe Henry. I thought he

1048
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:43,400
was calling him John Henry. He's calling him John Hendry,

1049
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,840
and Corey's like, no, that's his dad, He's Joe or

1050
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,880
some shit like that. Well that, to be.

1051
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Fair, that's a really hard name to remember.

1052
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean he could have called him John Henry.

1053
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:56,960
I mean that would have been really confusing at that point.

1054
01:00:57,079 --> 01:01:04,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, the way I gotta say Joe Hendry. He

1055
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,199
like in his match, he's starting to do little like

1056
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,760
power moves and stuff.

1057
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1058
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: I like that they're kind of doing that with him

1059
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,800
as a character where it's like, hey, listen, you think

1060
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,599
he's kind of a silly guy, and he is. He's

1061
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,239
got the blonde hair and the big smile, and he's

1062
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,239
playing silly songs. But you know what, like when push

1063
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,800
comes to shove, if he's got to pick a bitch

1064
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,239
up and throw on me, can I that's good. That's

1065
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,000
at least something that they're.

1066
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,679
Speaker 2: Trying something to grow from when they get tired of

1067
01:01:38,719 --> 01:01:42,039
making him wacky white dude, when they're tired of making

1068
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,639
wacky yeah, wacky singing white dude. It's it's kind of

1069
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,760
like an Elias, but hopefully not like an Elias.

1070
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:56,719
Speaker 1: Where Elias was a fucking jack tope.

1071
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:03,159
Speaker 2: Murderer. Like Elias is the guy you pick up on

1072
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:05,119
the side of a California road and you don't know

1073
01:02:05,159 --> 01:02:06,639
if we're going to make it to the next town.

1074
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,320
You know, That's what Elias always looked like to me.

1075
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,039
It's like a fucking murdering hippie is what I always

1076
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:14,639
thought Elias was supposed to be.

1077
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,039
Speaker 1: But Elias was the guy that you went to school

1078
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:19,920
with where everyone picked on him and you were like,

1079
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,320
does this guy know he could kick the fuck out everyone?

1080
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: He just has barken stocks with like black toes, you know, just.

1081
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: Like you just like now you're an adult and you

1082
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,199
think about it, You're like, oh, his dad must have

1083
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,679
been horrible. To him, how did that.

1084
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: Kid not stand up for himself?

1085
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,119
Speaker 1: Like you're like, he just sit there and take it.

1086
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:45,719
He was half a foot taller than everyone. Why then

1087
01:02:45,719 --> 01:02:47,920
you're like, oh, yeah, oh his dad was a state cop.

1088
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,320
That makes that Ah now we know.

1089
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:52,599
Speaker 2: Oh there you go.

1090
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:56,559
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you jump with me. Just comes

1091
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:59,519
home at one am fucking drunk from Applebee's. Like you

1092
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:08,639
can just you're just filling the brother now yeah, Lyra, Yeah,

1093
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:14,880
stumbling in with Lyra, Mommy, don't tell your mom. He's like,

1094
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,559
mom's right there, don't tell her anyways.

1095
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:22,719
Speaker 2: You get at school again. I'm really loving belligerent Lyra.

1096
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:23,360
I don't know.

1097
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm just uh, I don't well, honest to god, it's

1098
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,159
kind of it's only funny more so because of the

1099
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:34,800
fact that you know, she's just this cutesy little nerd girl,

1100
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,719
you know, like you know, like we know she's not

1101
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:44,400
some fucking drunk. We know, we know she probably thinks

1102
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,559
he's gross. Come on, like we don't. She's like I

1103
01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:50,880
was around drunk, irish runkles my whole life, and this

1104
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,920
is still a little much.

1105
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:54,119
Speaker 2: No.

1106
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: We we know we've seen her, We've seen her husband,

1107
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,639
who's like it's like dorky, little like Lord of the

1108
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:02,159
Rings looking motherfucker, like that's who she is, like, which

1109
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,440
maybe that's also it too. It goes back to the

1110
01:04:05,079 --> 01:04:08,159
KFA aspect of it, where you know Lyra's you know,

1111
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,239
itching herself and we're like, stop, that's not of this

1112
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,960
girl is. She's a cute, little nerd, cut, little nerdy

1113
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,840
Irish girl that you know, had some toughness to her,

1114
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,079
she's got some scrap to her. Do that with her

1115
01:04:21,159 --> 01:04:23,840
instead of whatever the fuck this is? You know, like,

1116
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,880
why are we once again just swimming against the tides

1117
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:32,559
for no fucking reason? Hey, Roxanne, are you a four

1118
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:36,440
foot eleven, adorable, little like Latina girl that you know

1119
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:40,159
could fight and claw and actually can work matches? Yeah, well,

1120
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:41,760
why don't we just make you a fucking heel for

1121
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,079
two straight years and have it not work in any

1122
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:48,880
vicinity whatsoever. Let's just keep doing that.

1123
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,159
Speaker 2: That's a great idea. Why do I still think the

1124
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:53,239
meanest thing that people were saying and she's the new

1125
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,559
Nikki Cross, Like, that's just that is a sad ending.

1126
01:04:59,119 --> 01:04:59,960
It's a sad ending.

1127
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: But if there's too many similarities for people to not

1128
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,360
draw that.

1129
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:08,599
Speaker 2: Let's help it. It's still a little early. It's a

1130
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,960
little early to to give her the nicky cross band aid.

1131
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: You know you are if you are rounding up, sir, Right,

1132
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,159
She's only.

1133
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: One tour of duty here in w w Euen.

1134
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: Fucking Maybe some other goth character will pass away and

1135
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,199
then she gets to play a spooky doll. Here's guys,

1136
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:34,440
maybe somebody, yeah, maybe someone else will have an untimely passing,

1137
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,159
and then she'll get to play a fucking Annabelle haunted doll,

1138
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,599
and then she'll milk another three four years of paydays

1139
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:42,800
out of it. On the show, we got to get the.

1140
01:05:42,719 --> 01:05:46,199
Speaker 2: Other things on this show. We got uh pent Yeah,

1141
01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:49,039
Penta and Chad Cable versus Page and Russev. Look, the

1142
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:54,239
Russev ship is corn It is fucking corn There they are.

1143
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,760
They are better than this. Russev should be a murdering machine.

1144
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,920
Yet again, not a cornball for Ethan Page. Russ being

1145
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,199
a cornball devalues Ethan Page. Ethan Page looks like a

1146
01:06:07,239 --> 01:06:10,599
dork and an idiot for siding with a cornball as

1147
01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:14,400
opposed to commoning up with a fucking murder.

1148
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,719
Speaker 1: Hid behind a beast.

1149
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: Right and the match though fantastic. Again, this is one

1150
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,000
of those cherry moments that you have to pick and choose. Yeah,

1151
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:26,000
Penta and Chad Gable, Chad.

1152
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: Gable breaking out of Russ's lock like that.

1153
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: I mean that shit was cool. Like I enjoyed that.

1154
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,360
It was arguably the best match of the night. I

1155
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,199
think we only got two matches though, so you know,

1156
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:37,559
oh I did.

1157
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,599
Speaker 1: I did see a little I mean, come on, it

1158
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:42,320
was a very muted reaction. I'm not going to sit

1159
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,559
here and say like the world was on fire about it,

1160
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,159
but I saw a couple of people being like, uh,

1161
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,440
there was some anger towards the booking of rob because

1162
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,360
there were no women's matches, and I'm like, shut, oh, stop,

1163
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,960
cut it out, cut it out. Give you o Sky

1164
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:00,679
a goddamn day off.

1165
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,559
Speaker 2: The poor girl. I just want one day off.

1166
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:09,679
Speaker 1: Just want don't go out there get kicked by Raquel, bitch,

1167
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:10,760
that's your job.

1168
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: No like that.

1169
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:14,559
Speaker 1: That, Honest to god, I was laughing when I first

1170
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:17,119
saw that. I'm like, all right, stop, there's a lot

1171
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:19,000
of things to shoot on the show about in the

1172
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,400
booking and triple h and whatever, but like they've really,

1173
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,599
honest to god, done a good job as far as

1174
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:27,880
like having women's matches on the show once again. EO,

1175
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,800
I guess uh that are are good. They've done a

1176
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,960
good job with that. So it just so happened one

1177
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,440
week they didn't put a women's match on it. Let's

1178
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:39,960
let's chill the fuck out, you know. Yeah, but yeah,

1179
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:44,760
so what else happened on this on this weird ass show?

1180
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: We went through Dan Hausen and Joe, We went through

1181
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:50,599
the U, the Penta and Chad Gable Friends for Now

1182
01:07:50,639 --> 01:07:55,400
a bit with Ethan and russev. Oh what else? We

1183
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:00,559
got Oba Femi and Forehead. H Yeah, that was that

1184
01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:05,079
was a quick little That was a quick little I mean,

1185
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:07,800
of course, he squashed the ship out of JD. Like

1186
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,760
what did anybody expect? Like they mentioned it last week

1187
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,359
as if there was any chance that oh JD might win. Guys, Yeah,

1188
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,239
you taking that best?

1189
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: I love I do kind of love how JD even

1190
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:27,079
though he's another guy where personality is not there. There

1191
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:31,279
is no personality, but he's a little bit of a try.

1192
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,039
Speaker 2: He just wants to make his boy happy. But they're

1193
01:08:36,079 --> 01:08:36,600
also not.

1194
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:40,399
Speaker 1: They're also not expecting him to sit there and do

1195
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,720
five ten minute long promost and ship like he's, oh yeah,

1196
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,560
he's just kind of we know what he's good for.

1197
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,439
We know he's going to give you a good match.

1198
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,600
He's going to sell his ass off, he's going to

1199
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,640
make whoever he's going against look good. And that's his role.

1200
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,239
And they're fine with that. But no, the old but

1201
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,319
thing like him killing people like that, I was a

1202
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:01,000
good good That's what we should have been doing for

1203
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,880
you know, the last month and a half. That's what

1204
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:07,560
should have actually have been happening. However, on the flip

1205
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:16,800
side of that, uh, Paul Hayman, And did he say

1206
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:22,680
a single thing in that promo? Nothing he said, abs

1207
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:29,119
of fucking lutely nothing, barely, Like he's like the only

1208
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,960
person who had as good of a rookie year as

1209
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:37,840
Brack listener is op Femi. And it's like, okay, all right,

1210
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,520
all right, so one thing you said, one thing, Now,

1211
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,199
let's stretch that out for three and a half minutes.

1212
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:51,239
Let's not and you're he's Paul Hayman, right, everybody bow Paul. Yeah,

1213
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,359
you can make chicken shit, you know, chicken salad of

1214
01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:59,600
chicken shit, YadA YadA, But he had nothing to work with.

1215
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:03,359
Speaker 2: Hayman doesn't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. He

1216
01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:05,640
makes you eat chicken shit and then tells you it's good.

1217
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yummy. Did you chaste the pickle on there?

1218
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,560
I don't think there was a pickle on there. There

1219
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,039
was a pile on there. There's a pickle on there.

1220
01:10:18,079 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: That's Paul. That's Paul's magic ability right there. Now you're

1221
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,399
eating chicken shit. But it's delicious, isn't it.

1222
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he was like, Brocklesner has never lost a

1223
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,720
hell in his sound. I'm like, all right, So.

1224
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: We could have been Oh, I absolutely could have. But

1225
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,560
I think the promise of the promo was to try

1226
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,520
and sit there and say that Obafemi is going to

1227
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,560
leave WWE, go to UFC and become champion there. So

1228
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:47,920
that's what I got out of the promo. Yeah, he's

1229
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,960
gonna go play for the Minnesota Vikings and get cut

1230
01:10:52,359 --> 01:10:53,560
in the first.

1231
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 1: Off, and then he's gonna beat He's going to beat

1232
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,560
people to death with thirty pounds of rotted poop in them.

1233
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes, asked half full. Hey can you hear that? Yeah?

1234
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:14,720
Thats yes, she's calling right now. What you're saying about me? Yeah,

1235
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,520
I'm no Lyra Valcaria.

1236
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm better than her.

1237
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: I swear my career went down without the without a

1238
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,479
whiskey sour.

1239
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,039
Speaker 1: She's like, have you heard anything about any Spooky Doll openings?

1240
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,800
Any openings in the Spooky Dolls apartment?

1241
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: Do I have to show my feet like Sarah Logan?

1242
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:42,920
Remember remember the Vikings?

1243
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: Were they doing somewhere doing something in Mexico.

1244
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,319
Speaker 2: I think that was the last time we saw was

1245
01:11:49,359 --> 01:11:50,159
in Mexico. Right.

1246
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,199
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, okay, rest in peace of the

1247
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:57,000
street profits they disappeared again.

1248
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,399
Speaker 2: To Hey, congratulations on that big push Montes. Yeah, that's

1249
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:01,920
just nice.

1250
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,079
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they they just and they're just gone again,

1251
01:12:06,079 --> 01:12:07,880
all right, I see later, guys, thanks for that thanks

1252
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:14,239
to a locker. Uh poor mont has Man Pomon Like

1253
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:15,760
at this point, I.

1254
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,399
Speaker 2: Am saying it's because their their wives are about to

1255
01:12:19,399 --> 01:12:19,960
give birth.

1256
01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh a loti dah, I guess that's.

1257
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 2: That's a likely excuse. Yeah, exactly.

1258
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, by the time this show comes out,

1259
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,439
if they if they had kids, then I'll be your

1260
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,720
horses patuit my apologies, but I'm the only reason why

1261
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,680
I'm saying that is because I'm rooting for the motherfucker.

1262
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,439
I want him on the show. Not saying that to

1263
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,359
be I'm not being like, how dare he'd be with

1264
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:50,159
she's going into labor. I'm just saying like, the guy

1265
01:12:50,279 --> 01:12:53,840
is so fucking talented, and I wish he was actually

1266
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,439
getting featured on the show. But you know, I guess

1267
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,439
there's some omens to put on. Make sure sure there's

1268
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,800
some owens. They got to have them there where. How

1269
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,039
did we almost forget about that too? We got to

1270
01:13:08,039 --> 01:13:08,880
make sure we covered the.

1271
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 2: And Seth thing.

1272
01:13:13,079 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: I like Solo was now dressed up like getting arrested

1273
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:17,560
Andrew Tait.

1274
01:13:18,119 --> 01:13:20,199
Speaker 2: That's his look. I guess he looks like a game

1275
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:25,199
show tacos. It's just I don't know. The weird red

1276
01:13:25,359 --> 01:13:27,319
pink salmon blazer.

1277
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: And he wears it all the time.

1278
01:13:31,159 --> 01:13:34,119
Speaker 2: Yeah too? Is that like a Samoan color? Is that

1279
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:35,720
what that is?

1280
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: Is he representing for the Bloods? Is that what's going on?

1281
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,439
Because I remember that was Jacob's thing for a while. Well,

1282
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,039
I think they kind of told him to tone that

1283
01:13:42,119 --> 01:13:44,800
down once they put together they were like, oh, kind

1284
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,640
of wearing gang colors every week. Maybe we can't align

1285
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,760
that with our advertisements for wings.

1286
01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 2: Stops trying to Jesus no, that is that is very weird.

1287
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:03,079
Speaker 1: Him in the suit every single it looks awful.

1288
01:14:03,079 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: He's been doing it for a while, but it's just

1289
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:10,079
I don't know why he thinks it's flattering. I mean,

1290
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:13,640
it's not even wrestling flattering. Matter of fact, it's funny

1291
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,960
because every other Samoan guy that comes out is usually

1292
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,439
wearing a stylish suit. When they want to dress up,

1293
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,279
they really can't. From the Rock to Roman, like all

1294
01:14:22,319 --> 01:14:25,159
of them, they really can't dress up. Except for Solo.

1295
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:28,960
Solo dresses like he shops at the kids section or

1296
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,600
something like. No, you're right.

1297
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: They dress him like a cute ring bearer, right right, yeah,

1298
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,039
you know, someone like us, like a little kid, and they're.

1299
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: Like, oh look it cute out.

1300
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna come down with the flower girl.

1301
01:14:45,279 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: It's like, na, Solo has a novelty suit, like I

1302
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,079
wouldn't be surprised if there was like a plastic flower

1303
01:14:52,119 --> 01:14:54,359
with like a little squeeze thing to make water shoot out.

1304
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:59,039
It's just he doesn't look like a real person. He's

1305
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:04,520
a cartoon character. The hair doesn't help the jay usso

1306
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:11,800
fucking throwback hair is not helping him. He looks is stuck. Yeah,

1307
01:15:12,319 --> 01:15:12,640
it is.

1308
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: It is very much.

1309
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: So, You're right.

1310
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,520
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like an extra in the Mask

1311
01:15:19,159 --> 01:15:20,279
starring Jim Carrey.

1312
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: He looks every single he looks more like a grown

1313
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,600
up when he was in the fucking Bloodline. Yeah, oh,

1314
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,760
you're right. Why doesn't he like.

1315
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:35,199
Speaker 1: He can just wear a button up shirt? That's fine.

1316
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,520
Speaker 2: Shirt. I love that we could solve all of Solo's

1317
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,039
problems just with like a trip to Old Navy or

1318
01:15:45,079 --> 01:15:46,000
some ship.

1319
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: You know, right, go to a men's warehouse. Fine, yeah, turtle,

1320
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:56,640
someone who doesn't want to dress you like Kat Williams

1321
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,399
and you do that, just honest to god, It's like,

1322
01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:03,960
what who he is? Like, I'm here to fight my

1323
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:07,560
family and I'm dead ass serious by the way, like

1324
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,079
I used dead ass earlier too, but they just like,

1325
01:16:11,119 --> 01:16:13,079
I'm here to help fight, I'm going to stand up

1326
01:16:13,119 --> 01:16:15,000
for It's like, then, what is this?

1327
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: Right?

1328
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 1: What is this? What is this outfit? Why are you

1329
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,119
constantly dressed like this? Did somebody tell you that this

1330
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:26,880
is going to make people take you seriously? Being in

1331
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,079
like little red loafers and shit? No, put on of

1332
01:16:31,119 --> 01:16:33,399
like I said, put on a button up shirt and

1333
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:34,760
some dress bands.

1334
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,399
Speaker 2: I always thought heels were supposed to be cutting edge anyways.

1335
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,960
I always thought heels, I mean, unless they're like a

1336
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,920
comedy heel. But if you're a serious heel, I always

1337
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,159
thought that they're the ones that are supposed to look good.

1338
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,159
They're supposed to be the ones that are fashionable, that

1339
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,680
have that aura, you know, and solo, unless they're trying

1340
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,119
to make him a comedy character, which it doesn't feel like.

1341
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:00,239
I know he's a comedic guy, but I don't look

1342
01:17:00,279 --> 01:17:01,840
at him in the same vein of the way that

1343
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,119
they're pushing like a Hendry or or a fucking dominic now,

1344
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:06,960
you know.

1345
01:17:07,159 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: But now that he's a baby face, Now that he's

1346
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:15,039
a babyface, why is he? I guess right. I mean,

1347
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:16,640
we just have to assume.

1348
01:17:16,399 --> 01:17:19,399
Speaker 2: The show because they wrestled together once, so now he's

1349
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:19,920
a good guy.

1350
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:24,159
Speaker 1: Okay, is he a good guy who knows.

1351
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,279
Speaker 2: Like another successful turn angle on WWE television? Thank you, guys.

1352
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,399
Speaker 1: Let's assume. Let's assume he's supposed to be the babyface

1353
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:34,000
in the situation, since he's technically aligned with two people

1354
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,039
who are babyfaces, even though one doesn't get the reaction

1355
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:39,359
you should because he showed up three weeks ago and

1356
01:17:39,399 --> 01:17:41,800
the other one's shitting on Roman reigns. But he's performing

1357
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,119
in front of a bunch of Disney adults, so they

1358
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:47,880
don't know what to do. Why is he still in

1359
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,359
the same shit as when he was doing the heel

1360
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:56,439
mob boss character on SmackDown with the C Team? Samoans like,

1361
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,159
he should be look, he should be presented differently, he

1362
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:04,520
should look differently. And also, Doug, why are you sneaking

1363
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,399
into the building dressed like a road cone? Like a

1364
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:08,039
stop sign?

1365
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:09,520
Speaker 2: Like He's like, I'm sneaking in.

1366
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you mean the guy in the bright red

1367
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:16,319
fucking suit top to bottom? The fuck Like, that's that's

1368
01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:19,600
your that's your sneaky outfit. Yes, it's a it's annoying

1369
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,800
when every wrestler wears black pants and a black hoodie

1370
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,479
to sneak in all the time. Yes, that is annoying.

1371
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,840
They did that to death. But also maybe, like, I

1372
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,920
don't know, don't dress like a fucking road flare so

1373
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,159
everyone goes, oh, there he is.

1374
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,319
Speaker 2: There is is the fact that they all settled on

1375
01:18:38,359 --> 01:18:40,279
it and he was cool with it just shows me

1376
01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:44,319
the mindset that they have for him serious nothing. It's

1377
01:18:44,359 --> 01:18:46,479
not like it's not like they did this one week

1378
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,840
and then the next week it was gone, and nobody

1379
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,920
ever mentions the blazer again, the car salesman blazer. But

1380
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,199
he's been rolling with that thing for a while now,

1381
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:58,199
so clearly he he thinks the car blazer is a

1382
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:04,399
great idea. Holy, it's getting me so much attention, this

1383
01:19:04,399 --> 01:19:05,239
this blazer.

1384
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,359
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'll give him this, I'll give him this.

1385
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:14,199
Royce Keys came out looking like he was a regular

1386
01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:17,479
not a regular guy, jack as fuck, but like he's

1387
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,199
in a tank top and jeans, and it's like flattering,

1388
01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:22,800
like you go, that's a god. I don't want to

1389
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,880
fuck with that guy. Like it's flattering, like you go, oh,

1390
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,560
that's a dude that he's coming at you and he's

1391
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,880
trying to punch you. No bueno, that's some scary shit.

1392
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,560
But yeah, solo is you know, I'm moving away from

1393
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,800
my family and what is this?

1394
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,039
Speaker 2: Honestly I kind of feel like it should be the

1395
01:19:40,079 --> 01:19:42,600
other way And maybe you'd agree with me on this

1396
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,720
one or not. But considering that the bloodline, you know,

1397
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,760
Roman and Jay and little j all kind of look

1398
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,479
the same and they're kind of wearing the same stick,

1399
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:58,560
the very americanized casual like clothes and stuff. I'm surprised

1400
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:06,399
Solo doesn't go straight fucking like Haku or fucking super

1401
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,760
Fly Snooka, Like, I mean, why doesn't he Why doesn't

1402
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,560
he go a little more tribal, like if his whole.

1403
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,359
Speaker 1: Means like when he was over, how he dressed.

1404
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,399
Speaker 2: Well, so yeah, but that's what I'm saying is like,

1405
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,199
if your whole thing is still fucking with the blood line,

1406
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:21,359
because the bloodline doesn't represent you, you're not a part

1407
01:20:21,399 --> 01:20:24,880
of the family, blah blah blah, why wouldn't you go

1408
01:20:25,039 --> 01:20:27,840
back and kind of prove your point as a heel

1409
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,279
because this is what I believe the blood line should be,

1410
01:20:31,279 --> 01:20:33,920
because I should be the leader of this type of bloodline.

1411
01:20:34,039 --> 01:20:37,159
Like they just don't, And all it is is what

1412
01:20:37,239 --> 01:20:39,600
they just give him a grass skirt and a couple

1413
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,840
of bow necklaces or something like what the fuck do

1414
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,159
they need to do? It's gotta be cheaper than that

1415
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:48,960
fucking salmon blazer that they stole from Mark Henry's closet.

1416
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,319
Speaker 1: Right well, like that like street Fighter just posted it.

1417
01:20:52,399 --> 01:20:54,680
That's what he looks like when he was over yes,

1418
01:20:55,239 --> 01:20:57,920
at yeah, that's the thing, like, put him in the

1419
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,399
same shit, send him out there, tape his fucking hands up,

1420
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,880
you know, like believe it or not. At this point,

1421
01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:08,119
that's not what no one else on the show was

1422
01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:12,840
looking like that, And it's a good look as opposed

1423
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,279
to whatever the fuck this is. And you're looking at

1424
01:21:16,279 --> 01:21:18,239
this picture now, a lot of them leaving them laying

1425
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,920
right where you know, Royce Keys in the middle looking huge,

1426
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:26,520
still looking huge, l A Knight, still looking huge. And

1427
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,119
then you look over to the right and it looks

1428
01:21:29,159 --> 01:21:30,680
like somebody toppled the build a bear.

1429
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: The black shirt almost makes him look like he's just

1430
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,880
all belly. It's just it's awful.

1431
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: It's like he put on the black shirt for it

1432
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,720
to be slimming, and it is doing the opposite.

1433
01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: You know.

1434
01:21:46,319 --> 01:21:48,199
Speaker 1: It's the fact kid wearing the shirt in the pool,

1435
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,920
like just it's fine, man, Where your ship? Where your gear?

1436
01:21:53,119 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah?

1437
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,279
Speaker 1: Like even street Fighter just put it up there.

1438
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: You can keep that shield ship.

1439
01:21:57,359 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: He doesn't, I know, I know, but it's better than this.

1440
01:22:00,279 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but everything is better than this. I genuinely

1441
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,960
think you could go back tribal and still tell an

1442
01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:12,279
amazing story with Solo by making him stand out against

1443
01:22:12,319 --> 01:22:17,239
the family by being more family than family. He's more

1444
01:22:17,279 --> 01:22:21,319
bloodline than you. How how is that possible? Because he's

1445
01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:25,920
still representing the old world traditions while Roman is fucking

1446
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,760
living his fast lane and his cars and his bitches,

1447
01:22:29,119 --> 01:22:31,479
and you got Jay and Little Jay out there doing

1448
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,479
whatever the fuck they're doing. Here you have Solo representing

1449
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,399
the old family traditions that Roman and Jay have forgotten about.

1450
01:22:40,119 --> 01:22:43,399
Speaker 1: You need a real catchphrase, like something to wear, a

1451
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:47,199
shirt that has some whatever it might be. Like you're saying, like,

1452
01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:49,279
whatever the fuck something.

1453
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: I don't even think if he wants to do something

1454
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,920
like that, I don't even think it should be in English.

1455
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,399
I think if you want to connect him as a yeah,

1456
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,800
fuck your heaven in the Native to have it in

1457
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,000
the fatherland tongue, you know.

1458
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: Right, something Yeah, I know you're right, Like something that

1459
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:11,079
differentiates him from it. Maybe that's it. Maybe you look

1460
01:23:11,079 --> 01:23:13,720
at him and you go, why are these guys? God

1461
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:14,439
it stops.

1462
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:20,079
Speaker 2: Hair, Stop with the multi colored fucking hair. Shit, grow

1463
01:23:20,119 --> 01:23:24,079
it out, start looking like some of your past, start

1464
01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:27,720
looking like the you know, the Segus and shit like

1465
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:28,199
it's just.

1466
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, and it sounds mildly offensive, but

1467
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:32,960
I don't give a fuck because I know where I

1468
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,319
know where my heart is when I say this, and

1469
01:23:35,359 --> 01:23:37,680
I think people that are being honest with themselves know

1470
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:42,159
what I mean. There's a reason that all of the

1471
01:23:42,279 --> 01:23:47,720
tiny little five foot tall Japanese girls in the whatever

1472
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,039
Marabelle Marigold, like, there's a reason why they're like I

1473
01:23:51,119 --> 01:23:54,279
have purple hair, you have red hair. I have green hair.

1474
01:23:54,840 --> 01:24:02,319
Because if it was all just five foot tall Japanese girls.

1475
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,279
Speaker 2: Then it would be nineteen ninety seven.

1476
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be nineteen ninety ve Yeah, but like I

1477
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,000
get it. The brothers and they all look exactly the

1478
01:24:09,039 --> 01:24:12,600
fucking same, right, and they're all Samoan dudes, And yes,

1479
01:24:14,039 --> 01:24:16,039
you gotta do something so they look a little different.

1480
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: You gotta.

1481
01:24:17,119 --> 01:24:19,159
Speaker 1: So It's like I get why they want Solo to

1482
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:21,960
be blonde, because it's like, Okay, look he looks different.

1483
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,880
It stands out or whatever the fuck because he looks

1484
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,720
like his brother his hair.

1485
01:24:27,359 --> 01:24:32,039
Speaker 2: Just growing his hair up with the actual outfits makes

1486
01:24:32,119 --> 01:24:34,560
him look different. Maybe even when he grows it all out,

1487
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,479
shave the face go completely baby's face.

1488
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, something that gotta do something, and that when he

1489
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,199
looked younger, that helped him, That really did when he

1490
01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:48,039
was younger, that you're you're right when he had the

1491
01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:50,840
goatee and the shit, and like they did everything they

1492
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,680
could because he had such a youthful like he was

1493
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,840
like twenty two or twenty three years old when he

1494
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,119
first started, if I remember correctly, he's he's a kid

1495
01:24:59,159 --> 01:25:03,560
compared to the other too. But at this point, like, yeah,

1496
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,760
they got to do something where he looks different than

1497
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,520
the other ones. But yeah, the sending him out there

1498
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,760
in the red suit, it almost makes it like it's goofy.

1499
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,760
He's not taking it seriously in a way, like.

1500
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:18,199
Speaker 2: He's not.

1501
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm a defiant I'm here to fucking I'm like

1502
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:28,119
he's acting like he's, you know, crossing the fucking picket

1503
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:30,680
line or something like that, Like he's like, I'm standing

1504
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,479
up against the you know, I I'm you know, not

1505
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,199
going to do this. And it's like, but you look goofy.

1506
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: You look goofy.

1507
01:25:39,039 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, it looks like a build a bear.

1508
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,520
He's like a fucking tender heart bear with this with

1509
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,479
his belly, and it's just it's not good, not good

1510
01:25:47,079 --> 01:25:49,680
but I'm rooting for so But honestly, God, of all

1511
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,279
of them, Solo at this point has kind of even

1512
01:25:52,399 --> 01:25:55,439
in spite of the look, he's won me back because

1513
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,439
I'm looking at it and I'm going maybe they can

1514
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,680
pull something for him. And it makes sense to put

1515
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,399
him with an l a night because Solo was legitimately

1516
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,199
put into that kind of underneath subcategory of these are

1517
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:11,680
the guys who are gonna push forever, your your brothers

1518
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,960
in Roman and you can go fucking kick rocks. So

1519
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:17,000
it makes sense that he would look at a guy

1520
01:26:17,039 --> 01:26:19,399
like La Knight and say, yeah, let's team up, dude, Like,

1521
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,079
enough of this bullshit. This is ridiculous. But the presentation

1522
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,920
is is cheeks. They gotta figure that out, they gotta

1523
01:26:26,199 --> 01:26:26,800
clean that up.

1524
01:26:27,119 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think we're we're ready to wrap this up.

1525
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,680
We got a show on Thursday tonight. There should be

1526
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:38,239
another episode of LFG Blu Fisto and Jeff catching up

1527
01:26:38,279 --> 01:26:40,239
a little bit on some episodes this week, so you

1528
01:26:40,319 --> 01:26:42,880
got three episodes to catch up on a lot more

1529
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,760
interest there, and then of course Thursday, myself and Joe

1530
01:26:46,399 --> 01:26:48,880
we'll be live for more wrestling soup and catch it

1531
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:50,399
on the download or on page.

1532
01:26:50,279 --> 01:26:52,199
Speaker 1: You miny, did you watch I'm sorry, did you watch

1533
01:26:52,239 --> 01:26:53,920
the New Dark Side of the Ring yet?

1534
01:26:54,399 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: No? No, I have not, did you?

1535
01:26:56,039 --> 01:26:58,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta no, I gotta find it so we

1536
01:26:58,399 --> 01:26:58,760
can talk.

1537
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, o WC show on Wednesday, So make sure

1538
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,319
to check that out tonight. Of course, if you have

1539
01:27:04,359 --> 01:27:07,880
a chance, check out Spitball Media, check out Lee Saners

1540
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,119
and the RCWR show. And if you have a chance,

1541
01:27:10,199 --> 01:27:12,760
to donate to Brian to help them him and his

1542
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,800
wife out. She's going through some serious medical issues and

1543
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,800
you can find that here on our discord too. So

1544
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,720
but yeah, no, we'll talk about dark Sight on on Thursday.

1545
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,239
I think that that's me if you find that.

1546
01:27:23,319 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Passed it along to me too, because because I could

1547
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,520
find the TNA episodes everywhere, because obviously that was considered,

1548
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,640
you know, a bigger thing. But because it's the necro

1549
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,800
Butcher and the CMO R Joe thing, they're not as

1550
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:36,600
big on it apparently.

1551
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,319
Speaker 2: Oh let me see, I'll tell you right now, if

1552
01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:42,479
I got it.

1553
01:27:41,279 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: It's not it, which, by the way, that to me,

1554
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:49,600
and like any any fucking dark person, we know that story,

1555
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,119
we know it well. But I see it obviously not

1556
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,079
resonating with the audience.

1557
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,119
Speaker 2: As much as it should. As much as it should.

1558
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: It's a fucking hell of a match, I mean in

1559
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,479
terms of just a spectacle. You know, people don't know

1560
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,640
it as well. And I guess what's his name too?

1561
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,840
Whang Whang is on it?

1562
01:28:11,039 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Seen him in the night.

1563
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: He was doing a w ship for for a hot

1564
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,640
minute and then I and then I think he showed

1565
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,640
up drunk and then swore on the pre show and

1566
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,079
then they.

1567
01:28:21,039 --> 01:28:24,319
Speaker 2: Excuse me, now, did they take the week off? Is

1568
01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:24,880
that what happened?

1569
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Because no, no, they definitely did it now, because that's

1570
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,199
I've been seeing the ads for it left and right,

1571
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,800
and I was at a debut last night. But now

1572
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:36,479
I'm having a I'm having a little bit of a

1573
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,399
harder time finding it. So fair enough, so if you,

1574
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,680
if you can finally pass it along anybody else find it.

1575
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:42,640
Just dropped me a message

1576
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 2: But well, M's love everyone Thursday, So he's a PI