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Speaker 1: The plays get broken down, then science gets denied to
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Live from the Mercedes Benz Baton Rouge Studio starts.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in hour number two of OTB
one O four five ESPN, Beton Ruge, Jake Flynn, Alandre Taylor,
Ah here with on this Monday morning.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a positive hour. Positivity our one great energy,
but it was great negative energy.
Speaker 4: Well, me and everybody watched the game yesterday, but yeah,
look did our quarterbacks?
Speaker 5: Look they were great, but we we said shout out
to the defense though, so positive really on a positive.
Speaker 2: Really just the offensive line we poo pooed on a
little bit, but everybody else.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ratler, well, running backs in half seven of eleven.
Speaker 6: Well, I guess I meant the running game.
Speaker 7: Running game for sure, running game with.
Speaker 2: Some poo pooh. Well not for Spencer Ratler. Twenty two
yards Well, all right, he was. He caught the ball.
Speaker 7: He's like, oh god, oh.
Speaker 2: Boy, I guess there was large.
Speaker 8: These yards were not designed. We were not designed design.
Speaker 7: But you know, credit to him for u but.
Speaker 2: He did and they were all they were all the
right decision as well. And he got down safely. Well
one time he tried to score.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you tried to get in and like he
might have a chance and you So those are two
large individuals, not very big.
Speaker 2: Stopped right there. Let me recant my statement about him
getting down safely. He did take a couple of shots.
He he he stuck his head in there like on
a third down to to get the first down, which
you want to see. Maybe not the first preseason game
when you're in a quarterback battle, I don't know, not
the biggest guy, not the I don't know.
Speaker 6: They were dropping like flies in terms of injuries.
Speaker 2: Yes, like second.
Speaker 8: There, all right, get here, excellent. Yeah, Jake's got Mason tip.
I was telling Mat before the show started. I was like,
when I saw Shock throw that ball out, I see
Mason tempting down there, I was like, somewhere, Jacob Ester
is just getting the laugh out of this.
Speaker 4: I y'all don't understand how bad I want Mason tipped
in preseason to show up in the regular season.
Speaker 7: And I mean that.
Speaker 4: With every ounce of everything I have because if he does,
there's another receiver for the Saints and they need all
they can take. All right, we're not talking Saints anymore.
We gotta keep talking to positive. He did great, but
it's going to turn negative inevitably really quick.
Speaker 2: Our wide receiver coach, you used to say, you don't
get catch, You don't get credit for catching it. Twice
it did bounce off his shoulder pads. He had to
catch it again. Ours used to say, one catch per ball,
won't catch for ball. By all right.
Speaker 4: The old TV Top twenty five is get a quick
recap before Landra gives you. The seventeenth ranked team at
number twenty five, the Boise State Broncos at number twenty four,
the Memphis Tigers at twenty three, the Baylor Bears at
twenty two, the Georgia Tech Yellowjackets at twenty one, the
Tennessee Volunteers at twenty, the Iowa State Cyclones at number nineteen,
the Texas eight and four Aggie's at number eighteen, the
Indiana Hoosiers, and at number seventeen Alandra.
Speaker 6: At number seventeen. We have the all Miss Rebels All
Miss Rebels.
Speaker 5: At number seventeen, Lane Kiffin another.
Speaker 6: Year with the Revs.
Speaker 5: UH still have not been able to make it to
the playoffs. So I can't put them any higher than that,
or at least I cannot put them in the top ten.
Speaker 9: I can't.
Speaker 6: I just can't do it.
Speaker 5: There's some people that think maybe they are, but I
not me. They're replacing eight players that were drafted in
the NFL, Walter Nolan, Jackson, Dart. But they've got a
couple of key returning players, so linebacker Sunterine Perkins and
wide receiver Kayden Lee. Also they've got two they got
two tight ends that are on the Mackie watch list.
Speaker 2: Get hurt, we'll.
Speaker 9: We'll see about.
Speaker 2: Little but be okay.
Speaker 5: So they got like half half the tight ends and
then we got sophomore quarterback Austin Simmons.
Speaker 2: To lead the way. Yeah, so.
Speaker 5: Replacing a lot, But you know Lane Kiffin, he is
He's been dubbed the portal King by some. So I
think maybe they've got a good chance, but it's like
every year they kind of get handed. Last year Yea
and the like the opportunity to make the playoffs and
they just can't do it. So can Lane Kiffin get
over that hump? We'll see this season. But for number seventeen,
that's why I'm picked ole Miss.
Speaker 4: Reppeles look d and to your point, last year we
all did it. We're like, if not now then when
I mean they have their front seven was really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't think ole Miss has ever had a better
front seven than the history of their football program. If
you watch the NFL Draft, I mean you'll you'll know
what I'm talking about. It was like, you know, even
the lineman from ole Miss, linebacker ole Miss. I mean,
they had a lot of Sunday players there. Now, as
you point out the portal King, he's done a good job.
Speaker 2: He's been there.
Speaker 4: Bringing in additions, you bring in DeShawn Willmack, who obviously
former LSU player uh Sage Ryan, Yeah, LSU player on
that one surprised me.
Speaker 7: That's a guy that ups and downs, We'll just say
ups and downs in an l s U uniform.
Speaker 4: Deshaun Willmack like you were waiting for him, Like he
looked like he was about to take that next step
he never did.
Speaker 2: See if he can do it and get transfer from Marshall.
Speaker 5: Jaden Yates led the Sun Belt Conference in tackles last season,
so I don't know.
Speaker 6: We'll see Gramley State transfer Andrew Jones as well.
Speaker 4: They brought in five new receivers through the portal. Caden
Lee is going to be your top target. He was
great at SEC media Day. I honestly think that it
is going to come down to the running back position
and a guy that we know well here, Logan Diggs.
Can he stay healthy? Can he be the guy that
we have seen in spurts and he'd be consistent. Ole
miss is not good to the standard that they want
to beat. If they can't run the football, that's just
matter of fact. In fact, they're head coach. I was
talking with Lane at SEC media Days and he said,
we didn't get to double digit wins last year because
we couldn't close out games because we couldn't run the football.
Lane Kiffin wants to run the football.
Speaker 7: It is who he is.
Speaker 4: Just because they go fast does not mean that they
throw it sixty times a game. Kentucky LSU game you
were up, you couldn't put them away because you couldn't
run the football in four minute offense. They are only
as good as they can run the football. So that's
going to be something to pay attention to. You lost
really good.
Speaker 9: You lost Bentley, you lost Henry Pier.
Speaker 4: Lost running backs the year before to Ohio State, and
then Bitley and Paris. You brought Parish back from Miami
and he just didn't give you the juice that you needed.
Logan Diggs is good when he's healthy. He's just not
healthy very much. You also bring in Lacy and Taylor
through the transfer portal. So that's my biggest concern if
I'm an Old Miss fan, is are we going to
be able to run the football. Austin Simmons is somebody
that we saw coming against Georgia last year.
Speaker 7: It certainly was not too big for.
Speaker 4: Him, and so quarterback obviously, but I think the running
back position is going to be key for Old Miss.
Speaker 7: When you look at their schedule.
Speaker 4: Georgia State in the opener at Kentucky, Arkansas, TWU Lane LSU,
so of those games only at Kentucky. The rest of
those games are going to be at home. Before you
get a bye week, Washington State comes to town, and
then this is where you gotta be good if you're
Old Miss. At Georgia at Oklahoma, and South Carolina at
home before you close out with the Citadel Florida and
at Mississippi State.
Speaker 2: That is the three game stretch.
Speaker 4: October the eighteenth until November first at Georgia, at Oklahoma,
and South Carolina.
Speaker 6: I it's a pretty tough three game stress.
Speaker 7: That's that's one of the tough ones in the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't care what Ole Miss is bringing back.
I don't know what they're I don't care what they're
bringing to the table. I don't think they should ever
be preseason ranked higher than somewhere in the teams. Yeah,
Lane Kiffin thirteen season as a college football head coaches
one oh five and fifty two winning record, pretty good,
But he's never that record doesn't scream. I am capable
of a top five, top ten preseason type of team.
And like Jake just kind of alluded to, if it
wasn't last year, when when is when, when's he gonna
do it? Well?
Speaker 8: Not only that, like you could say, okay, he has
arguably a worse running game, at least on paper than
he did a year ago. Yeah, but Jackson dark covered
up a lot of things for this team because he
was a three year starter. The fact that you have
no running game and a brand new starter, how much
can you put on Austin Simmons, Like, I get it.
He was good in the Georgia game.
Speaker 9: That was one game. Can he do it for an
entire season like that?
Speaker 8: That's my biggest thing, the combination of like, let's put
it all on the young guy. If we can't run
the ball, that's an issue for me.
Speaker 2: I just like we all say, everybody loves you, we
love the clips, we love his we all want to
have a drink with him, we want to go fishing
with him, we want to hang out with and I
want him. I wanted to be around a long time
to head coach and he probably will. He already had.
Speaker 4: But he has shown Ole Miss fans when you talk
with them, and I agree with everything you're saying, but
old Miss fans, you got to think where their mindset
is compared to where ours is.
Speaker 2: Sure, I get it, and he it And he is
the fastest coach at ol MIST ever get the forty wins, yeah,
which is saying something. I think he's a really good coach.
He just doesn't have the credentials of being being able
to take a program to the next level. He's he's
great for old great. Now let's say like, yeah, Kelly
last state.
Speaker 8: I let she was a head coaching vacancy right now,
And someone asked me, do you want Lane Kiffin? My
response would be as a head coach as an offensive coordinator,
because the answer to those two questions are different from me,
at least right now.
Speaker 2: We also forget he was I believe I'll get fact
checked me on. That's pretty sure he was Sparks's head coach.
He was in Oakland my rookie year were the NFL
when we played against the Raiders in two thousand and seven.
She like the youngest one out narteen years ago. Oh,
my head coach for the Oakland Raiders, my rookie.
Speaker 7: Year seven, seventeen years ago, year old old.
Speaker 2: The head coach for the Raiders.
Speaker 4: He might have gotten fired after we beat him because
they were up like seventeen to nothing.
Speaker 2: We came back and beat them.
Speaker 4: I think that's the game that he that Sea Bass tried,
like the seventy five yard field goal.
Speaker 7: I think that was that game.
Speaker 9: He was thirty one when he got hired.
Speaker 2: Thirty one.
Speaker 9: Do y'all know who the youngest coach fellows right now
right now? But Kellen Moore, It's Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how old was Sean McVay thirty? He was thirty? Yeah,
Oh my god, what are we doing with our lives?
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Speaker 2: Anyway. Kiffin been a head coach a long time, and
that feels very properly ranked, though very properly. It's nice
work there. I don't know what the other people. I
don't know what the coaches thought they were going to
be at, but.
Speaker 6: This I think they put them like top fifteen or like.
Speaker 4: Something like that.
Speaker 2: It's the coaches. Poll Ole Miss came in at number fifteen.
Speaker 9: Oh, I mean we're seventeen, so like we're locked in.
Speaker 7: I'm locked in, locked in, all right.
Speaker 2: I feel like we know more than the coaches, all right.
Speaker 4: So that's number seventeen coming up at sixteen tomorrow that
will be TATA fifteen.
Speaker 2: Big shocker will be Flynn and I'll be number fourteen.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: It's definitely easier doing it now than whenever.
Speaker 5: It was like I had to do number twenty five
and I was like, I don't know if I for
some reason I just couldn't.
Speaker 6: And then even twenty four, I was like, who do
I put here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Look, there are some teams that were ranked in the
Coach's poll, and it's honestly the sid pole because that's
who fills it out and not the coaches. Yeah, let's see,
I don't think we've had Kansas State. They came in
at twenty. Wait, why you came in at twenty.
Speaker 2: Kelly's not sitting there filling out the top twenty five
preseason US.
Speaker 4: No what No, Texas Tech came in at twenty before
we didn't have them. And so yeah, we've had our
own certain way of doing this and it hasn't been
just to be a sheep.
Speaker 2: We're not cheap're noteop?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you might hear a team that's like maybe
their top four in the coaches pull top five, they
might be thirteenth on the OTB.
Speaker 6: Can't hurt us the definitive correct poll.
Speaker 8: That's what everybody it ain't no country this is I mean, look,
the reality is, guys, we've done twenty five to seventeen.
Find me a team where you're like, terrible pick they
don't belong there, can't do it. I mean it's it's
actually a really good poll.
Speaker 6: Taylor.
Speaker 2: Just kidd. Wow, that's a shot right at Flynn. Right,
what what Let's see February first, we'll see who was
ranked twenty. I can't wait to compare our top twenty
five to the final one final.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, wait, how many? How many do we have
to get? Right as far as teams still in the
top twenty five to feel good to.
Speaker 9: Get twenty five? Exactly right?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no number the number.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's on the numbers.
Speaker 6: That'd be pretty cool if we got at least one.
Speaker 2: We got at least one, that'd be great.
Speaker 6: Well, Ole mess for sure, Ole Miss is gonna finish
the season at number seventeen. I'm calling it now, all right.
Speaker 9: Easy because they're scheduled so easy.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll give you Taylor's top three
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EESPN beton Rouge. It is now time to turn it
over to Tay Tay for Taylor's top three Today.
Speaker 8: We are going to do the top three rookie quarterbacks
after week one of preseason, and number three it's Tyler
Shuck of the New Orleans Saints. I mean, look, fifteen
to twenty two, won sixty five, a touchdown and a
pick made a bad decision through a pick six early
in the third quarter, but it's how you respond. He
came back to nextra drive fifty four yard touchdown pass.
He did a really good job. Mason Tipton Jacob Pester's
favorite player. So I mean I thought, I thought overall, like,
I get it, it was second half of a preseason game.
You're not playing against all pros out there. I understand that.
But I mean when I give Shuck a B minus
in that game, I think he was fine all things considered.
Speaker 2: I'll defend him a little bit. You said it was
a he made a mistake on the mintle air. It
wasn't really a mental ara like, it's a timing out
route to throw the posit like the I blame it
more on the formation. They ran that formation so many
times and you can't there's only so many routes you
can do. They got. I mean, he's playing cover three corner,
just made just jumped on it. You're not looking at
the corner really, if he's sitting or not. It's a
timing throw. It's a left right foot, sticky right foot
in the ground and throw it like I made a
good play. You don't want it to happen in the
quarterback always looks terrible. But like I'll defend him on
that one for sure. That it's as the time, I
kind of blame the formation and the guy just jumping
making a good play.
Speaker 8: But look again, second half of a preseason game. We're
not gonna look too much into it. We'll get into
a guy that people are hyping up a lot here
in just a second. But sixty eight percent completion again,
he had a big touchdown. He only touchdown on the
day for the New Orleans. The drive right after that pick.
He was able to shake it off. Abil Schuck did
a really nice job. So he's going to be number
three for me. Number two it's Jackson Dart of the
New York Giants twelve of nineteen, one fifty four in
a touchdown. I think statistically, Jackson Dart actually had the
best game of the weekend in terms of all the
rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 9: He was efficient. He had a quarterback rating of one
hundred and six in his first game. He was awesome.
Speaker 8: But every quarterback for New York was actually really good
over the weekend. The worst quarterback was Russell Wilson. He
went six of seven for twenty eight yards. That was
the worst quarterback for the Giants over the weekend, and
he was effishing as well. Jackson Coat did a night job.
He led the team in rushing three carries twenty four yards.
He talked about Spencer Ratler having to take off make
a little bit happen. Jackson Dart did as well. So
he's number two.
Speaker 9: For me and number one.
Speaker 6: Can I guess Shadoor Sanders number one.
Speaker 9: Out here calling me the Chador hater. Chador is number
one now tisnically the completion.
Speaker 8: Percentage Joe wise, yardage wise, Dart actually had a little
bit of a better game. Shador Sanders had the extra touchdown,
so he was fourteen to twenty three, one thirty eight,
two touchdowns and no turnovers. The reason I put Sanders
a head of Jackson Dart is because this game meant
a lot more to him than it did Jackson Dart.
Jackson Dart's a first round pick. He's not going anywhere.
Cleveland has five quarterbacks right now. Shador Sanders is a
fifth round pick. Like I think, I think his his
path through the field is a lot more difficult than
a guy like Jackson Dart.
Speaker 9: And look, Dylan Gabriel got hurt. Can he pick it?
Got hurt? So by default, this.
Speaker 8: Was a game that Shador really didn't think he was
going to start until about three or four days before
the game, and to go in there and perform like
that kind of quiet the noise around like, hey, is
this guy cut out to be his starting quarterback? The
national media chill out, He's not the next Tom Brady
because of this game, like some people are saying. But
I thought he did a nice job overall on kind
of short notice because he was not originally scheduled to
start this game. So Shodear Sanders a nice job. Number
one on the list.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked. I feel shocked. Uh no, it's properly ranked
here because and this wasn't mentioned, but what Shador did
versus what a Jackson Dart did was so much more
impressive just from this one week because he did it
against the ones right he started the game, it was
the best on best. Now, I know every team had
like their stars sitting out. I get that, so he's
not playing like pro bowlers out there or all pro guys.
But Jackson Dart did it second half. We keep talking
about the second half, second half, right, Schador did it
against the best guys that were out on the field
and looked looked the part you talk about. Now. I
didn't see Jackson play, but I watched Sador because there's
a lot of interest. Was you know that was that
was the only game really on. He looked poised, he
went through his routes. Nothing seemed too big for him.
And talent has never been the issue for this guy
as far as is he He's not a fifth round
talent guy. From a play perspective, he was a top
two round I think on any given draft top three,
there's the other stuff outside it. Certainly him, if he
had an agent, would have helped them tremendously, right, But
he looked the part, went through his reads, made accurate throws,
made good decisions, and inside the pocket and outside the pocket.
Just I mean, he did all the things.
Speaker 7: That touched I think it was the rouse of skinny post.
Speaker 4: I think he did like he he kind of started
left and went one, two, and he came back to
three the third read in it and delivered.
Speaker 9: That was the big thing about him, right.
Speaker 8: Everybody's like, oh, he took a lot of sacks in college,
Zoe Line's bad, But how good is his processing skills?
Speaker 9: He actually looked really good.
Speaker 8: And then somebody in the chats like, yeah, Matt, but
he played with the Ones as well. I think that
makes it even more impressive because if you followed the
Cleveland quarterback situation like I have, just because I think
it's really interesting this offseason, Shador Sanders had basically zero
reps with the Ones all throughout camp because he's kind
of been running forth like it's when Flacco and Pickett
and Gabriel got reps over him until he got hurt.
So Shador was playing with guys that he really never
had live reps with, and look.
Speaker 9: Like, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm always saying he's going against the ones, he's going
against the best, and then the rebuttal to that is, okay,
well he's playing with the best. Yeah, I got that.
When you play best on best, the game's faster. It's
different than college football. Tyler Shutt, Jackson Dart, they get it.
They did it against college players that are trying to
learn the NFL game. That shouldn't be a shock to
anybody because we know these guys are good against college people.
It's are they good against NFL veteran players at NFL speed?
And that's the difference between the first quarter, most of
the first half than the end of a second quarter
and a second half. We know that Jackson Dart and
Tyler sh are good against college kids, we got it.
That's why they're drafted. Are they good against NFL people?
And that's the difference. Now they have to have that
opportunity like they might be they might be great. And
Shaudor got that opportunity, and like you said, he didn't
note that until a couple of days leading up to it,
and he probably shouldn't have, but injuries played a point
and you have to take advantage of the opportunity. You
can't apologize because you got an opportunity and Jackson Dart didn't,
Tyler Shuck didn't. Can't apologize for that. All you can
go do out there is play your best. So that's
the difference to me. And this is how silly sometimes
like the draft hype is, and how what a big
decision a thing like not getting an agent is for
a guy. If he was a top thirty pick, a
top to a second rounder, even there'd be rumblings all
over the NFL that shaudor Sanders after that would be
in the running potentially to be a Day one, a
game one starter. But now the rumblings are just like, ah,
he's in better position to make the team, or like
that's differ because.
Speaker 8: There's been a lot of people that are like, maybe
they don't keep the young qbs, maybe they trade a
Chadur and a Dylan Gabriel. Let's be honest, should's name recognition.
He's got a hell of a lot more trade value
right now than Dylan Gabriel. Like he was kind of
that guy that everybody's talking about, hey, he might not
be on the opening day roster for Cleveland.
Speaker 9: I think he did a lot to help his cases
stay there. That's why I put him number one.
Speaker 2: O'd Dylan needs to know.
Speaker 9: To get back to Dylan has to play week two
and play well.
Speaker 2: And you talk about you don't want the distraction, you
don't want the distraction. Like that's why a lot of
people he dropped off the the draft board because they went, now,
now you're in it. Now. The Browns dove in head
first when they took him fifth pick after drafting Dylan Gabriel,
Like what's what's louder the noise of keeping Dylan ahead
of him after performance like that or not? So?
Speaker 8: I mean, hell did Dylan Gabriel may get the start
next week, be awesome, and Shador goes seven of twenty
two picks and then people forget about it.
Speaker 9: But right now he's in a good spot.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. Like the way he played,
Like you you got to judge everything operationally, that how
they how you know, of course physically the throws they make,
but like how they got to that the progression And
I don't see anything from that game he put out
there that tape that would have him regress.
Speaker 4: Cam Ward five of eight sixty seven yards, didn't have
a score, didn't have a pick, eight point four yards
per attempt, did not take a sack.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: He threw He threw an out route where he kind
of stood tall in the pocket, stood up, slid to
his left and threw it to his left.
Speaker 2: It was he's a stud man, He's a study. He's
gonna be good this year. Yeah. Uh, look his his
surrounding parts. We'll see.
Speaker 4: They got some guys that you know, gosh, I guess
Taji Spears did kind of go out with this game
and have a spring ankle, but he's got enough pieces
where he could be dangerous. So cam Ward even though
he didn't have the attempts, and everybody that you mentioned
there but certainly didn't have a disappointing opening preseason game.
Speaker 8: Well, the good news is for the Titans, if Kim
Woard doesn't work out, they got Tim Boyle.
Speaker 2: As much as we've talked about him at the break,
we we got to give Tim Boyle his own segment
here sometime today.
Speaker 6: Gott it's like for some reason doing a tim boil.
Speaker 8: Tim Boyle Taylor's girlfriend Tim Boyle just fascinates me.
Speaker 2: Ye seven, I respect the hell out of so many
deep dive Tim Boyle's high school stats college has now
Now it's like transferred over to Anthony Richardson. We're like
checking out percentage. So let's go through what well we
need to go through these stats. Most of our listeners
probably don't even know who Tim Boyle is. You're about
to I didn't the guy.
Speaker 7: You only know him because he was on Hard Knocks
that one year the Lions.
Speaker 9: Look he's going in a year seven five games in
the NFL.
Speaker 2: It was about to give you a full rundownography.
Speaker 6: He does not look like what I thought he was
going to look like.
Speaker 9: He looked exactly like what I thought he'd looked like.
Do you ever watch him play?
Speaker 2: And strapping young man?
Speaker 4: All right, before we do too deep of a dive
into Tim Boyle again here on air, we will step
away and when we come back, let's get to the
LSU Tigers. They had a practice on Saturday. Of course,
the social media team had a couple of bangers. I
felt like the Nussmeyer post was great the three weeks
until kickoff with the three weeks brothers, well done, great
dad joke appreciated that as well. We'll talk tigers when
we come back here on OTB.
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves, gets off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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Speaker 4: L s U had a big practice on Saturday. Check
out the article Louisiana Sports dot Net. Our guys Chris
Marler and our very own t Tay Taylor sharp and
of giving you the latest and greatest and so I'm
going to throw it to our guy now.
Speaker 2: Probably the biggest.
Speaker 4: Takeaway, Taylor would be that Garrett Nesmeyer has both legs.
Was out there and we can all, like, you know,
move past what happened in the middle of last week,
but you know more than that.
Speaker 2: What were some of your biggest takeaways from practice?
Speaker 8: Well, Mansor Delane looked excellent. He had two picks, he
had two tackles for a loss. They moved him around
a little bit. You were asking last week Matt about
who's playing the nickel. They moved Mansour in there and
he blitzed off the edge a few times, looked really good.
I thought Michael van Buren had his best practice since
I'd been out there by a lot, which we need,
like which we needed.
Speaker 2: But because you came in last week and you were
like the practices I've been.
Speaker 5: He.
Speaker 8: Had not been great. I mean, and like you look,
you're like, oh yeah, I know. They brought him in
because he started eight games in the SEC. He just
didn't look good. The accuracy wasn't there. He looked good,
he looked on Saturday. You watched him, You're like, that
guy can play in the SEC. Like now you see.
Maybe maybe you just needed a little bit of a
little bit of time with these receivers, a little bit
of everything. But I thought he had a really good practice.
Treds Green continues to be a matchup nightmare. I mean,
they're gonna like just wait for the sideline catches. They
threw it to him time and time again. Nobody can
cover him. Linebacker, safety, corner, doesn't matter. Put anybody on him.
Speaker 9: Can't cover him. Kyle Parker is going to play a
lot this year.
Speaker 8: They did eleven on eleven period twice and that was
only about ten plays a piece on Saturday, but both
times had eleven on eleven. Kyle Parker is one of
the starting three. It was Chris Hilton's avion, Thomas, Kyle
Parker both times. I mean that that was their starting
three guys.
Speaker 7: I think we told I don't know if we told
our listeners this.
Speaker 2: We told Taylor and Elandra this.
Speaker 4: We had two LSU coaches and the practice that we
went to, we didn't ask him about Kyle Parker.
Speaker 2: They told us about Kyle Parker.
Speaker 4: Like we were talking offense, we were talking guys who
had good days, and both the coaches brought Kyle Parker
out and kind of wax poetic about him.
Speaker 7: So like that's another.
Speaker 8: Kelly mentioned him first press conference, Kelly out of fall camp.
Like they said, tell us about the receiver room. Kyle
Parker first name out of his mouth, unsolicited, just said,
tell us about the receivers.
Speaker 9: He's gonna play a lot.
Speaker 2: He looks good, what positions he's lining up at them?
Speaker 9: So he's been on the he's.
Speaker 8: Been on the outside a lot, and it's been Thomas
in the slot Anderson back at practice. He didn't participate
in seven on seven or eleven on eleven, so I
mean he's obviously in that rotation as well. But assuming
Hilton's at X, Hilton is at X, Y is on
the side by himself, okay, and it's it's kind of
been Parker and XAVI on Thomas on the same side.
Speaker 2: So X would be normally just lined up to your left,
Z would be lined up to your right for those
for our listeners, that's how he Usually the X is
your dominant like really good pass runner, route runner, pass catcher,
you're straight up guy that can beat people deep, but
run good crisper outsiutside. X doesn't move in the slot
a lot traditionally a lot more in the last like
five six years offenses.
Speaker 8: Well, so that's the thing, Like a lot of times
sometimes Parker's in the slots, sometimes Aviana's, Chris Hilton's out
wide every time.
Speaker 4: To your point, one of your takeaways is I see
in your report again check it out. Great job by
Marlar and Tata Luisansports dot Net. Juwan Johnson. Yes, and
the practice we went out to he's involved. He is
involved in the first team offense, like there is a
plan for him.
Speaker 2: But with J. T.
Speaker 4: Lindsay right now suspended and who knows like, what that
how all that's going to play out. He's gonna have
to be big at running back. He already, like you
already kind of had me nervous about the group just
because you had nothing but young players and unproven players
behind Caden Durham. Juwan Johnson's gonna have to play some
running back. And I know he's done quarterback drills. I
know he's been in there individual period. He has got
to give them something at the running back position because
right now it is a concern as far as what
your depth looks like.
Speaker 9: Well, so that's that's where it's going.
Speaker 8: Like you were talking about working with quarterbacks, they're an
individual period, not on Saturday. On Saturday, he was with
the running backs an individual period and he was actually
running with the two's Like I think, if the season
started today, Juwan Johnson's probably your number two back.
Speaker 9: And I was telling Matt. I was telling Matt before
the show started.
Speaker 8: First team Offense eleven on eleven, I saw Jawan Johnson
line up at quarterback, running back receiver for the first
team offense because they had a little formation that they did.
Nuss was under center, he he'd motion out wide and
then it's Kaden Durham and Johnson, and Durham's just lead
blocking for Jawan Johnson, kind of a little wildcat package
in their receiver in their running back, Like, you better
hope he's good because he's gonna play a lot he's
gonna play.
Speaker 2: That sounds an awful like a play in a package
you put in while the media is out there. So
Clemson's got a little couple of things extra to work.
Speaker 9: Because you were asking, You're like, why would they show them?
Speaker 2: They show that they probably.
Speaker 9: Never run it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never run. They'll just making Cleon work on it.
But they did.
Speaker 8: They did that a lot in like their their goal
line period. That was kind of their go to formation.
There were a lot of drops on Saturday that was
That was maybe my biggest negative takeaway. Now I'm not
looking too much into it because that hasn't been an
issue all fall camp. I think your receivers are studs,
but I haven't seen Bower Sharp drop a ball all
fall camp. He dropped two on Saturday. I mean, Jolannie Watkins,
he's had trouble with his hands. He dropped a couple.
Barry and Brown dropped a deep ball that Nuss put
on the money, Barran Brown just couldn't control it. But
outside of that, like the O line had a lot
of penalties, but eleven on eleven they had five penalties, four.
Speaker 9: Of them pre snap fall start. But out of the
five penalties, four of.
Speaker 8: Them were the second team out line, So I mean,
I'm not looking too much into that as well, but
that's probably my only two negatives overall.
Speaker 9: I thought there were some guys that flashed.
Speaker 4: What about the interior offensive line. That's been something that
we've talked about. They've had some times where they've gotten
beat in past rush situations.
Speaker 2: In eleven on eleven, how did they look?
Speaker 8: I thought they looked a lot better in the run game, because,
like I mentioned, there were some guys that got pressure,
but it was Pyeburn off the edge. It was mansword
de Lane off the edge. Like you hear about you
can't block Bernard good and Bernard Gooden did not live
in the backfield on Saturday like he had. I mean,
there were a couple of blown plays, but at least
running like the inside run period or whatever, it was
better than it had been for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's groove that you're gonna pay attention to because Remember,
Clemson's got three Sunday players in their front seven.
Speaker 7: And I'm not talking about late round draft picks.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about first three round guys, and so that's
gonna be the group to kind of pay attention to
throughout fall camp. A quarterback will tell you I can
live with pressure from the outside, I can do nothing
with it if it's coming in the interior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have a place to step up,
if you don't have a place to move around, Yeah,
good quarterbacks with you know, smart tackles. They don't always
have to win, but as long as they even if
a tackle gets beat, they can push them out of
the way a little bit enough for a good quarterback
to slide. But if you've got nowhere to step up to,
it makes your life really hard. If you got guys
at your feet, nearly impossible to play the position. So
I don't know, the it's good to hear that the
offensive lineman is coming together a little bit. You know,
the first week of training camp, especially this day and
age we're in training camp, you're not really going live
early on, there's like an acclamation period that all these colleges.
That's the trend keep people healthy acclamation. It's hard on
offensive linemen when you're pricing in shells and not going
full contact, not going full speed, because it's just it's
just nobody else. Everybody goes full speed anyway in the trenches. Yeah,
but you don't have all the padding and like the
rules behind what you're doing to really kind of throw
your body in their lives. So you know, it's it's
good that in these full contact, live drills, at least
live for in the trenches, live with the offensive line
that they are showing up a little bit. So that's
the big question mark. So if we can get that handled.
But said Clemson, they got three guys on there in
their front seven, really good. It's gonna be a Joe
Sloan type of game plan, especially early on when there's
gonna be a lot of hype that team's gonna be
flying around. It's withstanding the early punches since like a
heavyweight boxer coming out there and swinging for the fences
the first like minute or two of a fight, that's
how the first usually in a big games, opening games,
that's usually how the first drive, drive and a half
goes is man As an offense, you just got to
withstand the blows, don't take any no turnovers, don't lose
the game in the first first drive.
Speaker 4: One thing, because I just got hit up on social
media talking about Kyle Parker and they're like, what about
the transfer receivers. Just because you bring somebody in doesn't
mean they're gonna win the job. I think that's important
to remember. And also you have the argument, yeah, but
you brought this guy in to be the guy. That's fine,
But you're at l Shoe. So if you recruit Kyle
Parker to come play at LSU, he's an LSU recruit.
When you sign with LSU out of high school, you're
the best of the best, like your top tier high
school talent. So just because you bring somebody in, no
matter even if it's another SEC school, if Kyle Parker
is holding them off and winning that job, that's not
a thing to be worried about. That's just the guy
that you recruited, again, a top tier high school talent
stepping his game up. Whenever there's competition. When you bring
somebody into the portal, that should not guarantee them a
damn thing, not at all. They should be just like
they're coming from high school as far as like you
have to go earn your job. So if Kyle Parker
is earning his job, that's not to be worried. Like
maybe the transfer receivers are playing good. Maybe they are,
but maybe they're not playing as well as Kyle Parker.
So that is not like a slight at the receiver room.
That's just a guy that you recruited, homegrown, developed, stepping
up and winning a competition.
Speaker 9: Also, like, look, all of these guys are going to play.
Speaker 8: When I say the starters, I just mean the first
couple of reps of eleven to eleven out there, all
of these guys are going to right.
Speaker 4: But I don't think roll nine receivers out there. No,
I agree, I think I then you could. Next second,
when we come out, you can tell me different, Like
I wan't like core five guys. I had a core
five and then we'll figure out of that five coming.
Speaker 9: Out and I think, I think I think you have
six right now.
Speaker 2: This is a philosophical statement that didn't have a Kyle
Parker's name or any transfers name on it. But like
if you bring in a transfer who's a highly recruited
guy to play a position, but the fallback of that
is it made somebody else that was currently your team
better to beat that guy out. It was it was
a successful signing. Yeah right, you're signing a guy to
have a very good rider. So if it makes somebody
else better.
Speaker 4: So what by the times you draft a guy, Hey,
we drafted a guy in the second third round, Like,
go and compete for the job. Let's go see what
you got ye Spencer Rattler drafted Tyler Shuck in the
second round. Yep, all right, let's see what you got.
You're gonna win the job. Are you going to the
second round or get it? And if Spencer Rattler raises
his level of plate and beats out Tyler Shuck, right,
Tyler Shuck might not have worked as a second round pick,
but if you get the best out of Spencer Rattler,
there's benefits of that.
Speaker 2: So when Green Bay take Jordan Love, yeah, I was like,
they're like, why do they do that? Well, Aaron won
MVP two times in a row. It's like, that's the
greatest first round pick of all time. You got to
you drafted the first round guy and it pissed your
bet off to get MVP twice. Like even if Jordan
Love never played, it was good. It was a great
first round pick. Yeah, all right, we'll take a break
close out hour number two.
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