Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It
Speaker 1: is episode eighty six. It is almost August. It's hot
Speaker 1: as fuck here. It's really annoying. I don't want to
Speaker 1: start talking about the weather right away because it's boring.
Speaker 1: Simpletons talk about the weather. But it's really fucking hot
Speaker 1: and I'm sick of it. Anyway. I'm Mike Mahardy here.
Speaker 1: As always with Dan Riikert.
Speaker 2: You gotta say ah to marry and then immediately pivot
Speaker 2: to something really interesting, because he blew it with the
Speaker 2: weather thing up top. All right, Mary and Mary kish woo.
Speaker 1: Someone broke into my house last night and kissed me
Speaker 1: right on the mouth, the.
Speaker 3: Weather man, and he was like, it's going to be
Speaker 3: a hot one today.
Speaker 1: Boys. That's how I get my weather.
Speaker 3: And then here.
Speaker 1: I don't get apps anymore. I pay a weatherman sneak
Speaker 1: in and go. It's why you be overcast.
Speaker 2: You made the weather interesting.
Speaker 1: Excellent, bring up park everywhere you go. Some mornings leave,
Speaker 1: some mornings. He sticks around and Amanda, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know what they you know, quote unquote tag team
Speaker 1: the weather man. What do you mean there's no double entendre.
Speaker 1: We just we wreck him together.
Speaker 2: And what context.
Speaker 1: We just rock his world sexually.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I see, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thunder, here's some thunder for you.
Speaker 3: Cast and stormy.
Speaker 1: This trip so light right at the end.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Like, how are you two?
Speaker 2: How are yours too?
Speaker 1: I said, how are you too?
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm good. I'm doing all right?
Speaker 1: Are three in the morning?
Speaker 2: My weatherman? Three ss we knew foursomes. We're very progressive, the.
Speaker 1: Weather man and the sports anchor, the.
Speaker 2: Entire weather department of the Star Tribune here. We we
Speaker 2: have over every week. So yeah, it's it's a good
Speaker 2: time here.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 3: The idea is that the more progressive just means more
Speaker 3: people in your orgy.
Speaker 2: Well, and we support print media. I'm not having like
Speaker 2: website meteorologists over here. We're supporting the newspapers meteorology department
Speaker 2: by having sex with them.
Speaker 1: Oh I was thinking, like broadcast local news team, you're
Speaker 1: going on to school print.
Speaker 2: That's too new media. There's a local news.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of tweed in your orgies.
Speaker 2: Tweet Oh yeah, yeah, patches, a lot of shoulder patches.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Mary is just all streamers. I probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't say that, do they have weather streamers. Well, I
Speaker 2: just saw twisters, so I know there are weather YouTubers.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I do think there are people that observe the weather,
Speaker 3: but I don't think there's meteorologists that stream on the.
Speaker 1: Rag observe the weather. Like the streamers just them look
Speaker 1: at the sky, but it's kind of blue, kind of gray.
Speaker 2: That I've got a green screen wall. Why don't I
Speaker 2: become a twitch meteorologist that's like totally unaccredited.
Speaker 1: It's like Rob Andleery's audition tape that he.
Speaker 3: Has unaccredited Meteorology is a funny uh side gig.
Speaker 2: All right, that's a good gimick.
Speaker 1: It can't be any worse than what fucking Apple weather
Speaker 1: tells me every day. It has not been right once
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: I had a thing about all meteorology and weather men
Speaker 3: like more women. It's really inaccurate, and we just agree
Speaker 3: that that's the normal, and so we don't do anything
Speaker 3: about it. I think any of us could be a
Speaker 3: weather person and be like, it might rain tomorrow. There's
Speaker 3: like a twenty percent chance, and if it does, you're
Speaker 3: like I said, there was a small chance, and if
Speaker 3: it doesn't, you're like I said, it was a small chance,
Speaker 3: and you could just get away with being really bad
Speaker 3: at your job and no one would be the wiser.
Speaker 1: The pseudoscience, it's like chiropractors and people who think the
Speaker 1: Earth is spherical. I don't buy any of that. I
Speaker 1: won't have it.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's more important to be accurate and
Speaker 2: good at predicting weather or as good at being on
Speaker 2: camera and work a green screen and know where you're pointing.
Speaker 3: Based on all of the meteorologists I see who go viral,
Speaker 3: it's really important that you have a big fat cake,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter what you say about the weather
Speaker 3: owl wild?
Speaker 2: Wait what context are their cakes?
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's slang for a really nice butt.
Speaker 2: You got? The weather thing is? But I think she's
Speaker 2: talking about I haven't watched a weather report in years.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on over there now.
Speaker 3: Every time I see the weather reports, it's always some
Speaker 3: like smoking hot lady with a huge.
Speaker 1: Shelf, shelf and cake.
Speaker 2: I'm behind on the terms. The kids use trolley term toolley.
Speaker 3: Okay, her flappers were hanging, you know what I mean
Speaker 3: of our boobs? Not anymore?
Speaker 2: What else could they be?
Speaker 1: But chets?
Speaker 3: Her lower flap birds they don't.
Speaker 2: I think you're trying to get me with that one.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard people say cake, never heard
Speaker 2: shelf until now.
Speaker 1: If you want to be if you want to be cool,
Speaker 1: next time you're you jump into a Giant Bomb video,
Speaker 1: say what's up, Sliz?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: Don't worry, but the kids will know what you mean.
Speaker 1: All those kids that watch Giant Bomb.
Speaker 2: I know about the skibbity.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, there's skibbity, there's slizz, there's Cake, the shelf.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to say sliz because I don't know what
Speaker 2: it means. I don't know what skibbity means either, But.
Speaker 1: He just said you've got it now skibbity.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, I just know it's a term. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I've never heard of sliz until a minute ago.
Speaker 2: And probles, you're making stuff up?
Speaker 3: What's the probles?
Speaker 2: Is the problem?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 1: Oh? Going on?
Speaker 3: What's that one?
Speaker 1: Now? Going on?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not I'm not doing that. Fraggle down and fraggle.
Speaker 1: They say, uh huh, this is great radio.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, us trying.
Speaker 1: How was Twisters? Was it good?
Speaker 2: I liked it a lot? I mean, you go see Twisters,
Speaker 2: you kind of know what to expect, where you just
Speaker 2: want it to be the fun you know, you want
Speaker 2: some likable characters chasing tornadoes around and fun stuff happening,
Speaker 2: and like that's basically exactly what the movie was. It
Speaker 2: was similar, i'd say, to just the tone and just
Speaker 2: vibe of the first one, but a different story, different characters.
Speaker 2: They you know, there's some things that are definitely modernized
Speaker 2: where it's like he's a tornado wrangler YouTuber Glenn Powell is,
Speaker 2: and then it's like, you know, it's like a group
Speaker 2: of kids doing like science projects and trying to like
Speaker 2: use new technology to like map tornadoes and stuff. Can
Speaker 2: I can I tell you a Twister spoiler? If I no? No,
Speaker 2: okay wait the original no Twisters, No fuck off, It
Speaker 2: just came out, okay, okay, okay, fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 3: I can't agree with such earnestness.
Speaker 2: I took Grub was very excited to hear it, and
Speaker 2: I said it today I'm Blake Club, and the whole
Speaker 2: chat was like, oh, I'm more excited to see it now.
Speaker 1: We are not Grub. This is not Blake Club. Sick
Speaker 1: of hearing about both of those fuckers, shut up about them.
Speaker 3: Stop talking about Blake Clubs. Stop talking about the round
Speaker 3: Earth kisses mic cof.
Speaker 1: Oh, I liked the First Twister back in Classic that
Speaker 1: was that was also summer blockbuster, right, Yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: To hear it was that way outside of Kansas because
Speaker 2: there I did start to question recently about like, oh,
Speaker 2: is that just huge because I was in Kansas and
Speaker 2: we all knew tornadoes. But like, no, it sounds like
Speaker 2: got people liked it too.
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. That's the movie, right where
Speaker 1: a stop sign flies through the air and behead someone. Right,
Speaker 1: because the wind.
Speaker 2: Something behead someone.
Speaker 3: No, Rich Twister, there's like a cow that goes around
Speaker 3: and then it goes round again.
Speaker 1: What's her name, Helen Hunt, Jamie Gerty. I'm confused, Hoffmann,
Speaker 1: I'm confusing.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a final destination thing.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't think it shows the beheading,
Speaker 1: but it definitely hurts somebody.
Speaker 2: It's been forever. I don't know. I don't remember a
Speaker 2: lot of death in the first Twister.
Speaker 1: That cow's probably dead.
Speaker 3: The so they have an explosion of a truck because
Speaker 3: there's competing people that are also storm chasers and they
Speaker 3: get too close and they get sucked up and then
Speaker 3: they like the whole truck explodes and so it's presumed dead.
Speaker 2: Carry always the Princess bride. Like he's the leader. He's
Speaker 2: the bad guye of the Tornado movie. That's yeah, he's
Speaker 2: worse than the tornadoes.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought he's like the voice of the Tornadoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a Pixar Tornado.
Speaker 1: Glenn Cowell's like the hot thing right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it seems like he's just popping up and everything.
Speaker 2: Bunk and I watched that Hitman movie on Netflix recently
Speaker 2: that was really good. Net top Gun this like.
Speaker 1: We just watched Anyone but You him and Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 2: Can you confirm something? I mean, I don't think he
Speaker 2: was lying. This just sounds like a crazy scene. So
Speaker 2: I saw Twisters with Ben Hanson and Bank and Hanson
Speaker 2: we were talking about this and he saw Anyone but
Speaker 2: You and said, there's a part where he gets a
Speaker 2: spider on him and he freaks out and he gets
Speaker 2: naked and then he like goat sees himself like spreads
Speaker 2: his asshole open next to like a bunch of people
Speaker 2: on the beach and ask them to look inside his
Speaker 2: asshole for a spider.
Speaker 1: Uh, the first half was correct, but no, he asked
Speaker 1: Sidney Sweeney specifically look for the spider and just one person. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: well find him that are distracted by a koala okay.
Speaker 2: Well that he wasn't lying about him pulling his asshole
Speaker 2: open and asking if a spider's inside, because that's part
Speaker 2: to sounded crazy.
Speaker 1: They don't show the goats so you see it from
Speaker 1: the front.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but it's implied that he's pulling his asshole open.
Speaker 1: Sidney Sweeney's up in his shelf.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1: They just yeah, they want to. Those two do not
Speaker 1: have their clothes on as often as possible.
Speaker 3: It does seem like somebody lied to you to make
Speaker 3: you believe that, and it is funny that it is
Speaker 3: technically true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he told me the truth about that.
Speaker 2: That sounds it's crazy. You thought it was a good
Speaker 2: plane movie.
Speaker 3: I started that film and I could not finish it.
Speaker 3: I thought it was grade a dog shit. I quit
Speaker 3: within twenty minutes. I mean, it is bad. I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna say it. It's a fucking bad film. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I was hoping it would be more on like the fun,
Speaker 1: kind of funny rom com side because we picked it
Speaker 1: because we didn't really want to watch anything, and then
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, yes, we'll watch this, but halfway through
Speaker 1: it got really cringey and like saccherin like speeches to
Speaker 1: each other about love. I'm like, all right, this is
Speaker 1: not what I was.
Speaker 3: It's just a mess. I have a low bar for
Speaker 3: rom comms, where it's like, yeah, the writings are gonna
Speaker 3: be great, and it's gonna be kind of kitchy and
Speaker 3: you know, garbage because it's about people falling in love
Speaker 3: and all that's crap. But like, just the way they
Speaker 3: wrote these characters is so unbelievable, And a part of
Speaker 3: me was a little nervous because I've always been a
Speaker 3: believer that Sidney Sweeney was like excellent in Euphoria. This
Speaker 3: was the some I've ever seen her, and I've been like,
Speaker 3: did you like forget how to act? Did you forget
Speaker 3: how you do it?
Speaker 2: Because that you just have like one speed.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't make sense, Like her character is all
Speaker 3: over the place. It's it's weird how she's portrayed. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's just a badly written character. I don't know if
Speaker 3: she couldn't save it.
Speaker 1: I guess like a lot of rom coms are contrived.
Speaker 1: This the beginning, the way they meet and then how
Speaker 1: they get pissed at each other is so Amanda, Like
Speaker 1: three quarters of the way in the movie, I think
Speaker 1: describe it in a way I couldn't put my finger around.
Speaker 1: She's like this movie feel is like very schizophrenic. Like,
Speaker 1: yeah it is. It's pretty all over the place and
Speaker 1: it stops. The beginning, it's entertaining despite how odd and
Speaker 1: like all over the place it is, but then later
Speaker 1: on it just becomes I have no idea what tone
Speaker 1: you're going for. Like, I'm a huge fan of the
Speaker 1: rom com Sleeping with Other People with Allison Brie and Sadaikis.
Speaker 1: That's a quality rom com if you're looking for a
Speaker 1: good one to watch, that's really good. Pump Springs. I
Speaker 1: think it is good.
Speaker 2: I like that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, sorry, Pump Springs I know is good. However,
Speaker 1: he also does that cheesy speech at the end, which
Speaker 1: I could have done without, but she kind of cuts
Speaker 1: him off so it works. But yeah, anyone but you
Speaker 1: was I agree. I didn't like it.
Speaker 2: Every time rom coms come up, I am scanning my
Speaker 2: brain to think if I've seen any, and then I
Speaker 2: always just wind up going to my letterbox and I
Speaker 2: think I've seen some, but they're like sneaky, you know,
Speaker 2: like you wouldn't know the rom.
Speaker 1: Coms we've had this exist.
Speaker 2: No I know. And every time that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Every time it comes up, I'm like, have I seen any?
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I probably haven't.
Speaker 1: I probably mentioned sleep with other people before on this show,
Speaker 1: but it's a good movie.
Speaker 2: If you said something on the show, I would remember it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I trust you to remember it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: It's a loaded statement.
Speaker 2: Have you seen all this. There's a lot going on
Speaker 2: now about raw dogging being a thing on flights, and
Speaker 2: I'm hearing it now. I was just hearing Jan just
Speaker 2: did a flight from Japan where he raw dog the
Speaker 2: whole way. But raw dog as it is used now
Speaker 2: in the media and colloquially is a different than how
Speaker 2: I said it. I'm not taking credit for raw dogging.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's a weird thing that what six
Speaker 2: months ago or more I was talking about raw dogging
Speaker 2: on flights.
Speaker 1: It was sooner than that. You you said it not
Speaker 1: long before there was a GQ story about it that
Speaker 1: Luke Winky, the game freelance games writer, was apparently he
Speaker 1: raw dogs flights, but not in the same way as you.
Speaker 2: It was too weird to know. I know, I've sawn
Speaker 2: zero instances of that being named that until like a
Speaker 2: month ago. I'm not taking I think it's a weird
Speaker 2: on but it's different. It's different the way I use
Speaker 2: the term.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Luke Winky listens to Firescape and
Speaker 1: uh and uh, he's just kind of co opting a
Speaker 1: term that he didn't he didn't invent. No, he didn't
Speaker 1: invent it. There's other people in that story that we're
Speaker 1: using it like last year.
Speaker 2: But it's I hear a bit in the news and
Speaker 2: stuff as you're staring at the flight map and you're
Speaker 2: not doing anything. You're not doing anything, yeah, which is
Speaker 2: not like I'm doing everything to try to just get
Speaker 2: through the flight. So I'm playing every game, I'm checking,
Speaker 2: I'm doing all sorts of shit. I'm eating, I'm drinking,
Speaker 2: I'm doing everything. So right, talking to me is just sober,
Speaker 2: you know, not not doing anything.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the way they describe it, it's like tantric meditation.
Speaker 1: They just stare at the flight screen and do nothing else,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I have a hard time just
Speaker 1: staring at like what's happening. The other day, I was
Speaker 1: tired enough where I was watching. I watched like an
Speaker 1: entire game download on Steam because I was exhausted.
Speaker 2: And that was the Red Dead Redemption two.
Speaker 1: No, it was. It was small. It was like four minutes,
Speaker 1: but like I was like, man, that was that further
Speaker 1: exhausted me to watch it. I just stared at the
Speaker 1: bar for the four and a half minutes it took.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine doing that for eight hours.
Speaker 2: I feel like, if the intention is to get into
Speaker 2: like a meditative state, I guess that's admirable. But I
Speaker 2: think it's so weird that, like I don't hear about
Speaker 2: it from people that like meditate, you know. So it's
Speaker 2: not like, oh, this is like a test of my
Speaker 2: meditation in the village. It's just like you're doing like
Speaker 2: an eight hour chunk of meditation at once. And like
Speaker 2: I've meditate like ten minutes a day, like ten, maybe
Speaker 2: twenty a day, And to me, the idea of doing
Speaker 2: several hours on a plane is crazy. And I meditate regularly.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine these people who don't meditate. They're just like,
Speaker 2: I'll just look at this thing for ten hours and
Speaker 2: not do anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a few people in that story I read, we're
Speaker 1: saying it's more of a masochistic thing, like when they
Speaker 1: finished the flight, they're like, Wow, that was a workout,
Speaker 1: and then they're supposedly high energy when they land and
Speaker 1: good to go, as opposed to shot. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I do think there's something to be said about boredom
Speaker 3: and how we're bored less than we used to be
Speaker 3: when we were children. You know, before we had phones
Speaker 3: all the time. Sometimes you didn't have anything to do
Speaker 3: for thirty minutes and you had to sit there and
Speaker 3: look at your shoes, and if you tried to like
Speaker 3: run around or get up, your parents would yell at you,
Speaker 3: and you just had to sit there and deal with it.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of good for you to be bored,
Speaker 3: and I like the idea to a degree that people
Speaker 3: are enjoying these flights without anything and allowing themselves to
Speaker 3: experience boredom. I think it allows your imagination to flourish
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: If you always have media in front of you, you
Speaker 3: don't have to think about stuff. But when you got
Speaker 3: nothing but a blank screen, you probably get to think
Speaker 3: about all sorts of stuff your life, what you want
Speaker 3: to do in the next five to ten years, people
Speaker 3: that you haven't thought about in a long time, that
Speaker 3: you miss that maybe you should get back in touch
Speaker 3: with all that stuff seems good. I think the way
Speaker 3: we describe raw dogging flights makes it sound like these
Speaker 3: people are psychopaths, but it's possible that they are just
Speaker 3: actually experiencing boredom and being alone in one of those
Speaker 3: like pure ways, which is like I would just like
Speaker 3: to have six hours of uninterrupted thinking time.
Speaker 2: I get that. I just feel like I would like
Speaker 2: it more. I feel like cou'd be more effective to
Speaker 2: just incorporate that into a daily routine rather than every
Speaker 2: once in a while when you fly, just do like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it all in at once, you know.
Speaker 2: I would feel like a regular habit of just being
Speaker 2: more mindful and not constantly distracted would be better.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I mean, I think you're right. I
Speaker 3: think it would be better if you were actually practicing
Speaker 3: things and doing it regularly. I would rather do ten
Speaker 3: minutes of meditation a day like you do or walk
Speaker 3: or work out, you know, for thirty minutes every day.
Speaker 3: But what ends up happening to a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I won't like specify what type, but I would say
Speaker 3: maybe a lot of men will just not do things
Speaker 3: that are good for them and then cram it all
Speaker 3: in in one day and be like I've had six
Speaker 3: protein shakes and I've worked out four times and now
Speaker 3: I'm healthy.
Speaker 2: That was in pushups and now I'm good.
Speaker 3: That's right. It's just like it's more about being consistent.
Speaker 3: But if you've i haven't done it in a while,
Speaker 3: then maybe you just kind of blow the cap and
Speaker 3: you have to you have to have eight hours of
Speaker 3: thinking time and then do a thousand push ups and
Speaker 3: then have all of the vitamin C beverages that you
Speaker 3: can get your hands on, and then that's a year.
Speaker 2: That's you're rip. You don't have any anxiety anymore. You're
Speaker 2: just your good to go after that. Man, that would
Speaker 2: that's how it worked. I would do that all the time,
Speaker 2: just like get in a few times a year, just
Speaker 2: knock it all out, like yep, this is the day.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna fix everything. That sounds great.
Speaker 3: The medical industry as we know, it would collapse if
Speaker 3: the actual secret was just do it all on one
Speaker 3: random Tuesday, just shut it all in. As long as
Speaker 3: you do it on this day. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: what's that day the movie where you can break the
Speaker 3: law and it's a.
Speaker 2: Purge day, the Purge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one day where you get to cram all
Speaker 3: your push ups in and then it counts a whole year.
Speaker 2: Shit, it's like a rollover miles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we have rollover miles, roll over push ups.
Speaker 1: I do those. Apparently the guy that's GQ article did
Speaker 1: a twenty one hour flight from Bali to that London.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, I have two European flights coming up,
Speaker 2: like back to back, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Fucking generally how you get to and from somewhere?
Speaker 2: Oh well, well, yeah, one's going there, one's coming back. No,
Speaker 2: it's like one of them is like one weekend and
Speaker 2: one of them I get back and then it's like
Speaker 2: five days later, I'm back and uh, someone who does
Speaker 2: not travel internationally much, that is a daunting thought.
Speaker 1: But let's right, you're doing it. It's it's the worst
Speaker 1: part lies in the anticipation. Once you're there, It's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be Okay, Yeah, I'm going to try
Speaker 2: to try to row dog well, I might know. I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to medication instead of twelve beers. I
Speaker 2: think that's probably a healthier way to get there.
Speaker 3: Do you mean like sleeping medication?
Speaker 2: I mean xanax? I mean that's that's fine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, which I guess could hopefully any Hell yeah,
Speaker 2: that'd be great.
Speaker 3: But uh, you could take all of your xanax at once,
Speaker 3: and then you won't have anxiety for the rest of
Speaker 3: your life.
Speaker 2: And you should be a doctor. Doctor gosh, I feel
Speaker 2: like you should legally say a disclaimer right now that
Speaker 2: you are not a doctor and no one should take
Speaker 2: all of it.
Speaker 3: Take all your xanax.
Speaker 2: Kids, No listen to your doctors.
Speaker 3: Ding dongs.
Speaker 1: I'm just going in the kitchen right now. Chug every
Speaker 1: bottle of wine. I'm like, I know, wine, just.
Speaker 2: Get your Somebody comes in with your license for some reason.
Speaker 2: It's the weatherman who wakes you up. He also gives
Speaker 2: you your wine license.
Speaker 1: He puts the pin on my lapel that I'm sleeping
Speaker 1: with because I sleep in a jacket.
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear something gros racket?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Always when I was.
Speaker 3: A teenager and I had bad skin and I would
Speaker 3: break out. I used to wish that I could have
Speaker 3: one pimple instead of like forty. That was just massive,
Speaker 3: maybe on like in my scalp that way people wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: No, just wishing for contact. Is this like wishing to
Speaker 2: like on a star, Jesus, who are you talking to here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Jesus Christ, superstar?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, so Jesus, please give me one
Speaker 2: giant pimple.
Speaker 3: I would just be like, come on, Like if if
Speaker 3: you just put it all in one, I could get
Speaker 3: it over and done.
Speaker 2: With, and I would like the T one thousand could
Speaker 2: just go into one spot in the nepop. But actually
Speaker 2: that'd be really satisfying.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: That was kind of like my dream. That was my
Speaker 3: teenage dream as a kid. If I could only have
Speaker 3: all of my acne be one giant pimple, that would
Speaker 3: be really cool.
Speaker 2: God cool is the word.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I remember wanting that and like thinking how
Speaker 3: neat that would be if I could just merge them
Speaker 3: all into one. And I think that's kind of like
Speaker 3: this conversation as well, like what other things if you
Speaker 3: could just merge it into one life would be so
Speaker 3: much better my friends. Oh, that's so weird, insult.
Speaker 1: I have to worry about?
Speaker 3: Which point would you take of me?
Speaker 1: Oh? I see, it's like a robotron, like a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's build a Frankenstein of our friends. Okay, who's
Speaker 2: all work together to make a friend Frankenstein?
Speaker 1: Dan?
Speaker 3: You have to call it that.
Speaker 1: Man shelf, Dan's cake, Mary's riz.
Speaker 2: It's just physical. It's physical if you can take a brain.
Speaker 1: Uh, whose brain would I want in this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And what are we doing? Why are we making
Speaker 2: this monster just to be a friend. It's not like
Speaker 2: it's not trying.
Speaker 1: To an insult like that. You are all just a
Speaker 1: lot to deal with. But okay, I'm no easier of us.
Speaker 3: We're all perfect, right right?
Speaker 1: Who's brain? Who do I find? Like? If it's just
Speaker 1: like if the goal is, like, you know, a funny
Speaker 1: friend I love hanging out with. But I also we
Speaker 1: don't mind.
Speaker 3: I would hair. I just think that's a really good
Speaker 3: head of.
Speaker 2: Hair, Mike's hair.
Speaker 1: But who's Okay, whose brain would you pick? Mary? Of
Speaker 1: any of your friends doesn't have to be people that
Speaker 1: we are the listeners know? Actually yes it does. That's
Speaker 1: more interesting.
Speaker 3: It is more interesting. I think Jan is a safe
Speaker 3: bet again just lovely Michael Hyam maybe yeah, he's really.
Speaker 1: Fun to hang out fashion.
Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds good.
Speaker 2: I would say Hansome and Manati good brains.
Speaker 1: You picked the two? Where does people? Well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're interesting brains. That's why I picked him.
Speaker 2: I like a good, interesting, weird we're gonna get.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get a six ' five blue eyed finance
Speaker 3: guy walking through Disney theme parks.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so can we settle on Jan's brain?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Are we all? We're all going to Jan's.
Speaker 3: Brain has a bad thing to.
Speaker 2: Say about him, I know. Okay, So so we got
Speaker 2: your brain.
Speaker 1: Okay, you could pick Mike and Ben. By the way,
Speaker 1: I was just giving them a hard time.
Speaker 2: Mike's hair, Jan's brain. Anyone have really good vision? Bok
Speaker 2: has like twenty twenty vision. She's got great.
Speaker 1: Great last I checked, I was twenty thirteen. Oh that
Speaker 1: was like two years ago. Well, we already got your hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, you can't have it all?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: When one jack that we know?
Speaker 3: I think Vinnie has a good wingspan.
Speaker 1: Are we designing a fighter or a friend?
Speaker 2: I was thinking, think about you want to reach that guy.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't need a strong friend. It's not
Speaker 1: a body.
Speaker 2: But if we picked well, no, but then they can
Speaker 2: do it all. They can talk, they can be funny,
Speaker 2: they can they can grab things, they can fight, they
Speaker 2: can trouble you.
Speaker 1: Because Mary's gonna Oh Mary, wait no, because you're intact
Speaker 1: it's your friend. I'm just like, yeah, when Mary gets
Speaker 1: in fights with these Jersey moms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vinny's arms strong reach.
Speaker 1: Vinnie's arms could wind mill her. Yeah, my palate for sure.
Speaker 2: Not tall Jack, pretty tall hair. Shit, do we want
Speaker 2: Decker's legs? He's pretty tall.
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining this person. Someone, please, someone right in
Speaker 1: draw this. If any if anybody listening knows all of
Speaker 1: these people.
Speaker 3: You know what Decker has. He's got good teeth.
Speaker 2: It does okay, so Decker's teeth, anyone that we know
Speaker 2: it smells like their sense of smell is very good.
Speaker 2: We got to get a nose.
Speaker 1: Who's got who's got?
Speaker 3: Suggesting yourself ship.
Speaker 2: I just had sinus surgery, so I should be all
Speaker 2: cleared out for the nose.
Speaker 3: Well, you're an enigma that you exist at all. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm not taking anything. You gotta take something from not sight.
Speaker 1: Sounds like like Nicholas Cage and Moonstruck. You take something
Speaker 1: from me?
Speaker 3: How about your gamer prowess? Your fingers?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Dan's fingers.
Speaker 2: Oh, don't make it weird, Mike, she said it. Were
Speaker 2: talking about gaming prowess.
Speaker 1: God, I want the photo.
Speaker 3: He's wingspan with your dirty things?
Speaker 1: Whose legs? Whose legs?
Speaker 2: Said, Decker's legs. He's tall.
Speaker 3: They gotta be like really nice gams.
Speaker 2: What makes a nice.
Speaker 3: Gam you know, sleek?
Speaker 2: But sleek? Who's looking at the friend's legs as much?
Speaker 1: Dude, I have a notebook full of sketches.
Speaker 2: I just no height. And Jake Decker's tall, but.
Speaker 1: We already have his teeth. Do we want Jake's legs
Speaker 1: and someone take someone else's teeth?
Speaker 3: Can't we just know I like Jake's teeth. Let's get like,
Speaker 3: can we just cheat ones? Can we get like selm
Speaker 3: the high as legs?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay? With Vinny's arms and dance fingers. Sure we need
Speaker 1: a torso that's the case.
Speaker 2: We're definitely getting the scene from the movie where it
Speaker 2: starts panning up from the bottom. It's playing like sexy
Speaker 2: music while it shows the legs and it's just this
Speaker 2: like crazy freaking stuf.
Speaker 3: She's so hot, though, I don't think that.
Speaker 1: Who's against the movie with her in the in that
Speaker 1: maroon dawn?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, going full Tarantino with that Tarantino's torsos,
Speaker 2: his pudgy white torso. That is not a win x
Speaker 2: X the Rocks the Rocks Torso with that too.
Speaker 3: Don't we know anyone who's got like a good core.
Speaker 2: Mike, you probably you do, sit up and stuff.
Speaker 1: But his hair.
Speaker 3: Stop taking perfect things from.
Speaker 1: No person.
Speaker 3: Why don't we take mike stupid ugly ears?
Speaker 1: Oh dude, these ears are tiny. You don't want these
Speaker 1: there tiny, They're real small.
Speaker 2: You could fit like five of those in his headphones.
Speaker 2: He's wearing.
Speaker 3: His only is his only flaw. He's like this perfect
Speaker 3: man and he covers his little ears with his headphones.
Speaker 3: So no one perfect little specimen. I just hate it.
Speaker 1: There's I think there's footage somewhere. I don't know who
Speaker 1: would have had it saved. Maybe Jean, Luke, Psyche Uh.
Speaker 1: We were getting ready, like warming up before a Lobby episode,
Speaker 1: and Lucy was staring at me and she's like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: you have small ears. And I looked at her. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you have a long neck. And we
Speaker 1: both admit to both of those things, but we had
Speaker 1: never noticed about the other until that moments.
Speaker 2: All right's ears.
Speaker 3: What about TAM's torso. It's got a nice torso.
Speaker 2: Called the Tam torso. Split it up to abs in
Speaker 2: upper torsos, so like pecks and abs.
Speaker 3: Well, then I would do TAM's abs, and I would
Speaker 3: do like, uh, a big set of honkers.
Speaker 1: Who's got boobs like covered in tattoos?
Speaker 2: The rock. I don't know anyone but tattooed boobs.
Speaker 1: I've got so many things swirling through my head right
Speaker 1: now that I'm like, now we need to cut that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make Jake cut this.
Speaker 3: We can't. We can't out any like hot titties of
Speaker 3: games journalism.
Speaker 1: Who's pooper do we have on this thing? Right now?
Speaker 3: I thought we said shelf, didn't we We don't have
Speaker 3: anybody's butt?
Speaker 1: Oh no, right, soma hecks the butt was the button?
Speaker 2: Clue your legs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have it. We don't have a dumper yet.
Speaker 2: Manati manati butt.
Speaker 3: He's got a butt?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: All he doesn't have a butt. He fills that he
Speaker 3: fills that role.
Speaker 1: But oh wait, okay, I got one. I've got one.
Speaker 1: So TAM's core towards it, and then Tim Turry's chest.
Speaker 1: You'll get a really like stark differ and and hair color.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, really really nice.
Speaker 1: Okay, it would be a good conversation piece, as long
Speaker 1: as they don't wear a shirt to the parties.
Speaker 2: As what are we missing? Most of you got my fingers?
Speaker 2: Does that include palms just.
Speaker 1: As as your Okay, okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: They got kind of fucked up and I was doing
Speaker 2: Tyson speed grubs palms like grubs grubbed older than may
Speaker 2: Andy does speed running stuff too, so his are probably
Speaker 2: more fucked up than mine.
Speaker 1: What grubs beard maybe would be nice. We don't really
Speaker 1: have much of the face on this on this sucker yet.
Speaker 3: That sounds nice? Sorry? What if mine is on here?
Speaker 2: Fighting spirit? I think we said.
Speaker 3: My physical attribute that's.
Speaker 2: A gland or something?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: My abdullah Oma.
Speaker 2: What do you want to toss in?
Speaker 1: This is your friend, So you're intact as you are.
Speaker 2: You're just shaving your head like the wig charity thing?
Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing for this?
Speaker 3: Mike's shaving his head and you have to cut off
Speaker 3: your fingers.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, and you just get to be intact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's my friend.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1: What else would you want to put all of X
Speaker 1: into one y in your life? What we're talking about?
Speaker 1: You were talking about putting all your pimples into one
Speaker 1: giant thing, all our friends.
Speaker 2: What all my beard hairs into one long hair?
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1: Long would not stay in your face for longer than
Speaker 1: two seconds.
Speaker 2: I'd protected, I'd get like an acrylic protector. I carried
Speaker 2: it around, and.
Speaker 1: You're laminating your one mustache.
Speaker 3: Hair, the world's greatest hand model. You're one hair.
Speaker 2: Roll it up like no, no, you know, like the
Speaker 2: pulling peel twizzlers. I could like kind of roll it
Speaker 2: up and put it in my mouth and just keep
Speaker 2: it there.
Speaker 1: Ew. I was gonna say, you're not gonna just rent
Speaker 1: out a second house down the street for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, what if instead of long we just put all
Speaker 2: the hairs together wide styles, so it's just like a really.
Speaker 3: One thick hair.
Speaker 2: That's it's like a pretzel.
Speaker 1: I don't like it, have this gaping hole of fresh flesh.
Speaker 2: Gross. I know, my teeth into one big tooth like
Speaker 2: those babies. It's like you to make the big cheese.
Speaker 2: It's it's like that of teeth. How would you eat it?
Speaker 2: Suck eyes? I can put them both together.
Speaker 3: That's not like a lot into a little.
Speaker 2: That's just that's just half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't qualify freckle all of my I used to.
Speaker 3: Think about that too. All your eyelashes.
Speaker 1: Into one long eyelash hair that hangs down, and then
Speaker 1: the bottom into one long one that hangs down. So
Speaker 1: every time I blink, it's like.
Speaker 2: What organs one that does everything?
Speaker 1: Could you do that?
Speaker 2: Just one big orb in your torso that just does everything?
Speaker 3: Doctors, there's something wrong with my orb.
Speaker 2: It's like pumping blood and ship and.
Speaker 3: I got some really bad diarrhea hiccupside.
Speaker 2: In there with your blood. That would probably there's some
Speaker 2: wrong with my or we just had an orb, it
Speaker 2: would make there'd be less doctors you have to see
Speaker 2: if there's a problem.
Speaker 1: You have a heart attack on the plane. So ione's like, God,
Speaker 1: bless you, do we.
Speaker 2: Have an ORB doctor? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do we have an ORB doctor on this flight?
Speaker 2: I'd love you for that.
Speaker 1: Oh this is a nice oak, okay to it?
Speaker 2: Oh, God.
Speaker 1: Of complications? That would arise. I I think I like
Speaker 1: my numerous things on me, aside from too many friends.
Speaker 1: M hmm, I have too many friends.
Speaker 3: I can think that there's there's there's yeah, I can
Speaker 3: get rid of them. There's a horror movie where where
Speaker 3: somebody builds the perfect friend and kills a bunch of
Speaker 3: people and then takes parts of their bodies and then
Speaker 3: builds them into like one person.
Speaker 2: That's a centennial man, strangely similar to what we'd I know, and.
Speaker 3: I can't. It's a spoiler, but it's got a really
Speaker 3: cool ending. Let me say I can find it. Well,
Speaker 3: it's a spoiler, I promise.
Speaker 2: Is it weird science? That wasn't? Oh?
Speaker 1: This is Santa Claus three with Tim Allen.
Speaker 3: No, she builds a friend by killing people and then
Speaker 3: like ripping and she's like, oh wow, you have really
Speaker 3: nice arms, and so she cuts his arms off and
Speaker 3: puts them on the body. Let me see if I
Speaker 3: can find it. It's really doubt.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that in the results. I think you're
Speaker 1: making it up.
Speaker 3: No, I swear I saw it.
Speaker 1: It's a real z. I know you think you do.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're making up to mess with us.
Speaker 1: I think you're just misremembering.
Speaker 3: My problem is is Google usually solves it when I
Speaker 3: when I say Google movie girl imaginary friend builds killing,
Speaker 3: cuts off arms and it didn't work out. But usually
Speaker 3: when I do that, Google actually knows what I want.
Speaker 2: There's an FBI ask Ai, let's see do you have
Speaker 2: the windows thing that they forced where it's Ai stuff?
Speaker 3: No, I'm trying to avoid it sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like Nicholas Cage movie plot.
Speaker 2: Siri, what's the movie where a girl chops off arms
Speaker 2: and stuff from other people to make a friend?
Speaker 3: May? What think with May and May?
Speaker 2: Why this isn't like a Girl next Door?
Speaker 3: It's wrong? It's May and May. Why I saw this
Speaker 3: year's This is Old. It doesn't have a very good rating,
Speaker 3: and I think it's probably because it's kind of a
Speaker 3: freakish movie. But it's got a really cool concept, which
Speaker 3: is that she's like, I wish I had more friends,
Speaker 3: and then she just starts making one.
Speaker 2: Why did you? How did you come across this movie?
Speaker 2: From two thousand and two?
Speaker 3: I watch a lot of like horror movies. It's kind
Speaker 3: of my jam.
Speaker 2: But do you just bind them on TV? Or like
Speaker 2: what drew you to this God, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, I think it. I think it was probably
Speaker 3: like horror movie of the time and I just put
Speaker 3: it on.
Speaker 2: Wow, huh, what do you know?
Speaker 1: We watched a lot of horror movies too. Because of
Speaker 1: our podcast, people were setting in recommendations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like watching movies.
Speaker 1: The horror movies that still mess.
Speaker 2: With me, which was, Oh, it follows as good.
Speaker 1: No, it follows doesn't mess with me. I rewatched that recently.
Speaker 1: I actually don't think it's as good as I thought
Speaker 1: it was. It's still decent. But The border Lands, that
Speaker 1: UK horror movie, it was like the first thing we watched.
Speaker 3: For you cannot go in my memory.
Speaker 1: No, the Borderlands it's called something Else when it came here,
Speaker 1: but it's from the UK. It was like found footage.
Speaker 2: A guy like moves.
Speaker 1: To a rural place in the UK and there's something
Speaker 1: wrong with the priest and he's like trying to escape
Speaker 1: something and the ending horrifying things ever, and it reminds
Speaker 1: me of apart from Nope, I Love. I thought Nope
Speaker 1: was really good, but there's a scene in Nope. I
Speaker 1: liked it. I watched it again because I couldn't stop
Speaker 1: thinking about it. I was like, I like it a
Speaker 1: lot more. And there's one scene that reminds me of
Speaker 1: the end of Borderlands, basically like when this huge thing
Speaker 1: you thought was something else actually ends up being something
Speaker 1: like organic and specifically digestive. There's an ending in the
Speaker 1: Borderlands that's similar to that scene from Nope.
Speaker 2: Will you see the Borderlands movie?
Speaker 3: No, Mary, the one about the game?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Borderlands the game.
Speaker 2: I probably won't.
Speaker 3: It might be a home theater type situation. Sure, but
Speaker 3: I saw both sonics and like, let me tell you,
Speaker 3: that second one really pushed it for me, and I.
Speaker 2: Still saw it. Wait, like it was not great.
Speaker 3: No, it's not great.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought the first one. I thought it was
Speaker 2: like by video game movie standards, fine, yes, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't see the second one.
Speaker 3: I saw both. I usually see video game movies even
Speaker 3: if they're not good, just because I don't know, just
Speaker 3: because I've probably interacted with that game at some point
Speaker 3: and sometime, and it's fun to have it reenacted. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like it's kind of like if you read
Speaker 3: a book and then they they're like, we're making it
Speaker 3: into a kind of a B movie, and you're like well,
Speaker 3: I read it, I gotta see it, and so you
Speaker 3: just kind of observe it, even if if it's not
Speaker 3: going to be great. What do you think is like
Speaker 3: the best video game movie that was ever made?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, a lot of people think the first
Speaker 2: Mortal Kombat, which would probably be mine, although I mean
Speaker 2: both in terms of success and quality. I think the
Speaker 2: Mario Brothers movie was a success. Like I didn't think
Speaker 2: it was like amazing or anything, but like for what
Speaker 2: it was, but.
Speaker 3: I thought it was very well done. But it wasn't
Speaker 3: like my type of movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know, my favorite series or whatever,
Speaker 2: but it's not like I I think they just did
Speaker 2: a good job with it as far as like the
Speaker 2: audience was mostly kids. I mean, it was true to
Speaker 2: those characters and series in a way that like the
Speaker 2: live action one certainly was not. So like I consider
Speaker 2: that a success in terms of video game movies, you know,
Speaker 2: other than that.
Speaker 3: Fuck all the Toune Raiders.
Speaker 2: I don't remember liking those, but like those very different reasons.
Speaker 3: Those were so good.
Speaker 2: Were there?
Speaker 3: She did like a flip on a ski doo.
Speaker 1: I was the one with a Gerard Butler in it,
Speaker 1: and she's wearing like gamer. No, it's a tomb Raider.
Speaker 1: She's wearing silver spandex on the front.
Speaker 2: That's the cover of the that's a poster for the
Speaker 2: first one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cradle of Life.
Speaker 1: Cradle of Life. Yes, she was so.
Speaker 3: She then gave her a padded.
Speaker 2: Bra really yes, huh.
Speaker 3: And she's got huge boobs. It's unnecessary, but they were
Speaker 3: like your Laura Croft, you better pump them up a.
Speaker 2: Notch or whatever.
Speaker 3: Need them a little bigger. Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Wait are you suggesting we're into pointy boobs in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three?
Speaker 2: I mean, did you play the first couple of two
Speaker 2: Raider games? They were point boobs?
Speaker 1: I've heard, but those those are from the early.
Speaker 3: But my friends have told me, who are perverts? May
Speaker 3: I add?
Speaker 2: My friends were like, oh, yeah, those boobs are pretty pointy.
Speaker 3: Crofts cone boobs, my friend, that's what I want.
Speaker 2: You want the boobs?
Speaker 3: Yeah, PlayStation one tomb Raider boobs. Okay, it's my friend.
Speaker 1: I just had I had an idea, a thought. It's
Speaker 1: really not an idea. It's just a fleeting image of
Speaker 1: Samahayek from Dustled On Fighting Elizabeth Hurley from the I'm
Speaker 1: Not sure, what if it's like a movie or a
Speaker 1: like a theatrical.
Speaker 2: Thing, the Wet Dream Special Special on.
Speaker 1: The top like for some reason, it's a very memory.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've gone back to it many times
Speaker 1: for a specific purpose.
Speaker 2: And be a good movie. It would just be a
Speaker 2: good movie. We like cinema would be.
Speaker 1: A great movie. Call up Deny vill Neu. He's he's good?
Speaker 2: Would he be the guy?
Speaker 1: Because he's Because it sounds art house and it looks
Speaker 1: in my head it's hard to explain. Sure, Alex Garland
Speaker 1: could probably do it, Sofia Coppola would probably want to
Speaker 1: be on board. I would imagine, uh, who's the who's
Speaker 1: the Gretta? Greta? Actually Greta has pitched something similar to me,
Speaker 1: so maybe she would want to. Okay, she want to
Speaker 1: work on this with me. I would script it for sure,
Speaker 1: and be cinematographer and direct it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, starred produced.
Speaker 1: The Referee of the Fight.
Speaker 3: Edited by Mike Maharty.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about video games?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, so horny.
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Speaker 3: I've played a lot of games.
Speaker 1: What have you played well?
Speaker 4: I I'm going to start by talking about Bow of
Speaker 4: the Teal Lotus, which is another metroid vania, which is
Speaker 4: crazy genre where they're popping off this year. I remember
Speaker 4: talking to you about another one last episode. This one
Speaker 4: is more in the platforming space. I would compare it
Speaker 4: more to Or because it's very much about platforming, and
Speaker 4: then the the benefits that you're getting for your character
Speaker 4: help you traverse faster and get to different areas.
Speaker 3: Double jomp, the dash very important. You get those probably
Speaker 3: within the first three hours. It's beautiful. I would say
Speaker 3: it kind of looks like Okamie, like a water color
Speaker 3: animalistic space. It's very beautiful.
Speaker 2: You know one that does that really well? Have you
Speaker 2: played Hollow Night?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 3: Damn it, this one degree. The thing is like, you're
Speaker 3: such an ass. We know you're joking, but you forget
Speaker 3: every game. So it is quite possible that somewhere in
Speaker 3: the recesses of your brain, you have forgotten that you.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't forget a masterpiece. I always say, anyway.
Speaker 3: I've I have always said, it's a masterpiece. You have
Speaker 3: just gotten on this train, you have just come to
Speaker 3: see I can it literally happened two weeks ago. The
Speaker 3: tape shows that I was right.
Speaker 2: Both.
Speaker 3: Path of the te Lotus is a metroid Vania platformer.
Speaker 3: It has really stunning artwork, boss fights that are not easy.
Speaker 3: It's got some tough boss fights to it, and again
Speaker 3: I would say, or like sequences where let's say, a
Speaker 3: big wave of water is coming and so you have
Speaker 3: to traverse all these sequences in real time, like really
Speaker 3: hardcore platforming, and if you lose, you die and you
Speaker 3: have to start the entire scene over again. I've really
Speaker 3: enjoyed it. There's only been a couple times where I've
Speaker 3: not really been sure where I was supposed to go.
Speaker 3: It does not have all of the quality of life
Speaker 3: things that modern Metroidvanias have. You cannot take screen shots,
Speaker 3: you cannot mark your map, which I think is disappointing,
Speaker 3: But I think it does have really excellent design in
Speaker 3: the sense of character design, is really beautiful. I love
Speaker 3: some of the different characters I'm interacting with, like giant
Speaker 3: monkey with little kids, that's so cute, really beautiful, nine
Speaker 3: tailed foxes. It's a fascinating game. I do enjoy it,
Speaker 3: and I'm planning on playing more of it, So bo
Speaker 3: Path of the Tia Lotus. For all the metroid Vana
Speaker 3: fans out there, do.
Speaker 2: You think we're gonna get to a point where if
Speaker 2: a Metroidvania comes out and it doesn't have you know,
Speaker 2: like taking pictures or at least putting map markers down,
Speaker 2: it's going to be seen as like, how the fuck
Speaker 2: did they fight? Like, do you think it's going to
Speaker 2: be that commonplace? Because of Prince of Persia and other
Speaker 2: games doing that.
Speaker 3: So well, it's become it's just come to be an
Speaker 3: expectation to me. Because Prince of Persia was January as
Speaker 3: far as I'm jeesus, this year, I know, and you
Speaker 3: know a lot of games are already cooked by this point, right,
Speaker 3: so they didn't know to put that in there, just
Speaker 3: like how Hollow Knight really shaped a lot of modern games,
Speaker 3: but it took a couple of years for that for
Speaker 3: everyone to be like, oh, you got to have this stuff.
Speaker 2: So just realized Hollow Knight was doing that map marker stuff,
Speaker 2: and you know, I doubt it was the first, but
Speaker 2: I feel like when I've talked about that concept of
Speaker 2: like marking the map, I've always brought up Breath of
Speaker 2: the Wild. I mean, granted very different games. You know,
Speaker 2: that was a big open world map thing, so I
Speaker 2: think that was a fairly different thing. But yeah, the
Speaker 2: marking the map thing, I'm trying to think pre Hollow Night,
Speaker 2: can you think of examples, regardless of genre, where you
Speaker 2: could mark the map Metrodvenea, open.
Speaker 1: World like custom waypoints.
Speaker 2: Custom one's not just I know, you can just set
Speaker 2: like a custom waypoint like a GTA and it'll like
Speaker 2: your GPS will guide you. But like I'm talking about
Speaker 2: more like, hey, you've got these different icons you can
Speaker 2: put down, like Breath the Wild style, Hollow Night style,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Right, or like there's a wall and I can't break it,
Speaker 3: but it looks breakable, so I'm going to put a
Speaker 3: marker on my map that says like can't get through
Speaker 3: but should eventually and it a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like animal Well where you can straight up
Speaker 2: right on the map at a certain point you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's genius. I wrote Dan sucks on my map.
Speaker 2: I have it.
Speaker 3: I did. I can show you I did. I'll take
Speaker 3: a screenshot. I think this game has a lot of that,
Speaker 3: those elements where you'll walk on the ground and the
Speaker 3: ground will shake and I try to do like a
Speaker 3: ground pound and it doesn't move, but it's shaking. So
Speaker 3: it's like, I know I'm going to be able to
Speaker 3: eventually get through there, which is really exciting. It It
Speaker 3: just has a lot of the elements of games that
Speaker 3: I like, and I can tell this is going to
Speaker 3: be one that I'm going to enjoy. It's visually very pretty,
Speaker 3: the music is nice. It's got some like some of
Speaker 3: my foibles with it is it's it's got some rough
Speaker 3: combat where I don't think it's as meaty as modern
Speaker 3: combat systems where you know, when you like slice something,
Speaker 3: you can feel that you're like kind of cutting through.
Speaker 3: This one just doesn't feel as smooth.
Speaker 2: But the platforming is that can hurt, because like I
Speaker 2: remember I like the platforming and that tales of kenzeru
Speaker 2: Zau game, and but I remember thinking the combat was
Speaker 2: kind of like Okay, I got some aero stuff, but
Speaker 2: like the melee stuff never felt that great, especially like
Speaker 2: I consider Prince of Persia and now Hollow Night despite
Speaker 2: being several years old, Like those games had like meaty
Speaker 2: combat that had some like real you know collision to it.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it made you feel good. Oh, this
Speaker 3: game also has a uh, how would you call this
Speaker 3: a badge system?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: You know? In my Troy Sorry and Hollowinite, you can
Speaker 3: get badges, but you only have so many slots, and
Speaker 3: certain badges take up more slots than other ones, so
Speaker 3: you have to be particular with which ones you take.
Speaker 3: This game is very similar. It'll have one where it'll
Speaker 3: be like, hey, you can heal faster and you'll heal
Speaker 3: more juice, but it takes all three of your slots
Speaker 3: and so it's very precious. Whereas I picked one that
Speaker 3: extended the length of my sword, which is the most
Speaker 3: valuable I feel like, of any badge ever talk about
Speaker 3: the specific one the nail longer. Yeah, I love the
Speaker 3: Anything that extends the reach of my weapon I think
Speaker 3: is worth gold. It's like the number one thing that
Speaker 3: I always do when I played the shooting game that
Speaker 3: you like that looks like crap?
Speaker 2: Oh, many shoot adventures.
Speaker 3: Many shoot adventures. Very first thing upgrade it. Well, I
Speaker 3: wanted to say about you that the range of my
Speaker 3: weapon was the very first thing I upgraded all the way.
Speaker 3: It's so valuable, it's so valid. Any anyway that I mean,
Speaker 3: there's really not that much more to say about it.
Speaker 3: It's pretty. Uh, it's it's very animally. There's lots of
Speaker 3: different environments. I'm already in, like a snow environment, which
Speaker 3: is pretty rad. Uh. Apparently it's hand drawn, which is amazing.
Speaker 3: I could absolutely see that because it's so pretty. Give
Speaker 3: it a shot.
Speaker 2: Nice?
Speaker 1: What What else am I playing? I'm well, you both
Speaker 1: have played. I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness you're here. If if you're listening to this
Speaker 2: when it comes out, I think you still got a
Speaker 2: day or two before the game comes out. That's why
Speaker 2: it was delayed a little bit. Today was so we
Speaker 2: could talk about this from Bargo. Oh my god, Mary,
Speaker 2: I I gave you the Herd, so I give you
Speaker 2: both the hard sell. Mary, you played it. I don't know,
Speaker 2: Mike did Mike did.
Speaker 1: You when this is the first time I'm seeing the
Speaker 1: name of this game is on this doc what you
Speaker 1: told you?
Speaker 2: This is just rude. This is wow.
Speaker 1: You've talked about this game to us.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've got screenshots. Listen. I had never
Speaker 2: heard of this game, and then I started hearing some
Speaker 2: chatter among Giant Bomb and there are some folks being like, hey,
Speaker 2: talking big on this game, and so I just kind
Speaker 2: of checked it out. Side unseen immediate feeling I had
Speaker 2: on it when I booted it up is it is
Speaker 2: the most British thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 3: Show it is it is so it is absolute British comedy. Yes,
Speaker 3: it is kind of like peep Show because they're always
Speaker 3: being very cheeky, even delicately dancing around sexual content. I'll
Speaker 3: give you an example. Very early in this game. I
Speaker 3: actually do not know what genre of game this is.
Speaker 3: I don't know how the buck Okay, it's it's so odd.
Speaker 3: There's two buttons. It's it's wahs walk around and hit smack. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the only that's all you have.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have a name. You're a
Speaker 2: cool little dude, and your guy with a big head
Speaker 2: that walks around.
Speaker 3: You're small, you look like a lemon with legs, and
Speaker 3: I anyway, early on the game, someone was like, I
Speaker 3: gotta get this lawn work done, and so I hit
Speaker 3: the mower. I immediately start mowing. A very funny sequence
Speaker 3: happens with this mower. I just think a lot of
Speaker 3: this stuff you have to experience to actually enjoy it,
Speaker 3: but very funny where you're like mowing and it's focusing
Speaker 3: on these flowers, and the flowers are telling each other
Speaker 3: how much they love each other, and you're just kind
Speaker 3: of mowing closer and closer and closer to these flowers
Speaker 3: who were saying I love you, and then you mow
Speaker 3: over one of them and just kill its like partner.
Speaker 3: And then I returned the mower to the guy in
Speaker 3: the game and he goes, ah, I had a really
Speaker 3: good gripa on that mow. I'll have to have it,
Speaker 3: have to have you talk to my wife, and I
Speaker 3: remember being like, what, like you just the whole game
Speaker 3: makes you look around and be like that was the
Speaker 3: sex thing, isn't it?
Speaker 2: It's I haven't thought.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's so much any sex jokes in
Speaker 3: this game. It blows my mind.
Speaker 2: Like pies and sweet pies are very very well, yes,
Speaker 2: but I don't feel like it was overtly going for
Speaker 2: sexual stuff. I thought it was just very British, just
Speaker 2: like the game is. I guess it's kind of adventure game,
Speaker 2: kind of platform where you can't die. It's just like
Speaker 2: you're walking around as this dude and you're gonna run
Speaker 2: into someone's like, oh, thank goodness you're here. Can you
Speaker 2: fix the stores all fucked up? Can you fix the store?
Speaker 2: And you're just going around on the shelves punching stuff
Speaker 2: basically until it's fixed, or like oh I need to
Speaker 2: find these things. Or there are a bunch of recurring
Speaker 2: bits that are funny on their own, but the animation
Speaker 2: style and the comedic timing on everything is unmatched. Like
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it justice, like trying to explain a
Speaker 2: joke or anything. I will say I think it's the
Speaker 2: funniest game I've ever played. I think I don't. I've
Speaker 2: said a lot, how I don't think games in general
Speaker 2: to date have done comedy that well. I think some
Speaker 2: portal hit Man, but like Hitman's almost like a weird
Speaker 2: physical comedy. Hitman's got really funny NPC dialogue stuff too.
Speaker 2: Hitman's very funny, but like it's few and far between
Speaker 2: that a game makes me laugh. This game, it's like
Speaker 2: three hours long. Played the whole thing in a hotel
Speaker 2: bed while I was in Kansas City, and I was
Speaker 2: just smiling and laughing to myself the entire time. It
Speaker 2: is such a joy, just the den recurring pits, like
Speaker 2: there's this little sad kid that's always sitting on a
Speaker 2: bench and he's always got like a little pop. It's
Speaker 2: got a little sausage pop or a pasty pop or
Speaker 2: a weenie sausage and whatever he calls it. It's all
Speaker 2: very British and you go out like yeah, and you're
Speaker 2: one way of like interacting with anything. It's just punching it.
Speaker 2: And so you punch him and it always just makes
Speaker 2: the sausage thing just like a splat in his face
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, he was so excited to eat it,
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, my pasty pump.
Speaker 1: The fact that Mary is picking up on a lot
Speaker 1: of sexuality and Dan, you didn't get any of it
Speaker 1: and makes me think it actually is really British because
Speaker 1: they're British people are never forward about the sexuality.
Speaker 2: Stuff, and I like British humor. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a lot of sexual stuff. There might be some.
Speaker 3: There's a lot and it's subtle. I think. I think
Speaker 3: good homework. Then mic is for you to play it
Speaker 3: and count how many sexual things are because there's there's
Speaker 3: a lot. There's a lot in it, but it's not overt.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like that one I was. I think
Speaker 3: that one is a good example with the lot with
Speaker 3: the mower. He's like, you're gonna have to talk to
Speaker 3: my wife, which is just like, we all know what
Speaker 3: that means. But it wasn't literal the way he was
Speaker 3: saying it. It's very casual the way these references are
Speaker 3: are sprinkled in. This one's not sexual. But I also
Speaker 3: I laughed out loud a lot playing this game. And
Speaker 3: another one was I went all the way down a
Speaker 3: well and I'm at the bottom and a little worm
Speaker 3: comes out and he just starts talking about his life family.
Speaker 3: There's something you might not know about us worms, but
Speaker 3: Dan hate pairs.
Speaker 1: In the description on Steam, the town's colorful inhabitants are
Speaker 1: brought to life with vibrant hand drawn animation, fully voiced dialogue,
Speaker 1: and wall to all double entendres.
Speaker 2: M I'll have to play it again, but it's like
Speaker 2: that the recurring bits are like you falled out a fireplace,
Speaker 2: shoot and like get sit everywhere. That's not a sex thing.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's actually I just like that.
Speaker 1: They said, they like specifically pointed out.
Speaker 3: It is filled with double entendres. It is filled with
Speaker 3: double entendres. And there's even a scene where characters are doing.
Speaker 2: It when it's just not on camera. When you're going around,
Speaker 2: you're like outside.
Speaker 3: Windows, You're outside a window.
Speaker 2: Okay, I beg, okay, okay. Also, it's entirely possible. I
Speaker 2: just forgot a lot of this game, and I probably
Speaker 2: picked up on it when it I'm a smart guy, right,
Speaker 2: just not present.
Speaker 3: Let me let me I wonder how many times you've
Speaker 3: been hit on Dan, and she's been like that to
Speaker 3: my place if you need to know what I mean,
Speaker 3: And she's like, I don't really know about that. Let
Speaker 3: me give you my place.
Speaker 2: I will give you Exhibit A and Exhibit B my
Speaker 2: first date and my first kiss, and you can tell
Speaker 2: me if your hypothesis is correct. First date, I'm fourteen.
Speaker 2: I go to see what dreams may come? The one
Speaker 2: about Robin Williams going to Hell in Heaven. I've been
Speaker 2: there with Elizabeth. She asked me out, I've never kissed anyone.
Speaker 2: I've never got on a date. I'm staring straight ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm raw dogging what dreams may come. I'm just staring
Speaker 2: at the fucking screen because I'm so nervous about being
Speaker 2: on a date. She told me later that, like, I
Speaker 2: was trying to kiss you that entire movie. You had
Speaker 2: no idea you wouldn't turn your head an inch and
Speaker 2: kiss me. I had no idea first actual kiss. I'm eighteen.
Speaker 2: I go to see Minority Report with girl Rachel in
Speaker 2: the dorms. I'm in college at this point. I'm driving back.
Speaker 2: It's at night after the movie, and we get back
Speaker 2: to the dorms and she's like, hey, perk Afew rows
Speaker 2: back and I was like why and she was well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh yeah, just perk Aphew's a smart
Speaker 2: right here. What are you talking about? And I just
Speaker 2: like it wasn't an argument, but I was like, I
Speaker 2: just don't understand the logic. I don't get it, and
Speaker 2: she's like, to us or not.
Speaker 1: That's George Costanza when the girl asks him up to
Speaker 1: her apartment when he's dropping her off. She's like, do
Speaker 1: you want you want some coffee. He's like, ah no,
Speaker 1: it's midnight. I would never sleep. I guess.
Speaker 2: She's like, okay, all right, I play it again and
Speaker 2: I'll look for sex stuff.
Speaker 1: Dan. I have to ask. It's been throwing me off. Yeah, night,
Speaker 1: when did you start looking at the camera.
Speaker 2: I was wondering if you were. You're a very observer.
Speaker 1: I really dislike when people do that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't think Dan usually does this. No, I gotta
Speaker 1: tell Mary was talking about teleprompter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the it's hell gotta. I got it
Speaker 2: for my birthday. I was telling Mary my mom got
Speaker 2: me this really nice bottle of whiskey and a teleprompter.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I use the telepropter for well, because
Speaker 2: like right now, the reason is I switched the windows
Speaker 2: around during the break and that's why you're just noticing it.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at you right now. I'm looking directly
Speaker 2: at you too. I will see you, but the camera's
Speaker 2: behind the glass, so like the camera and you.
Speaker 1: Well, Mary was talking about bo I was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: Dan became one of those people. I hate that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. No, it's just funny because oh no, no,
Speaker 1: it's oh it's do you want me to change it? No? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're fine. It's just it's someone I really dislike in
Speaker 1: the past did that all the time. I've probably talked
Speaker 1: about him before to YouTube, not on the show. I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I don't was Dan always one
Speaker 1: of these people? Because a lot of people do it
Speaker 1: and it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2: Well, you just look like you're like, I can put
Speaker 2: my notes up there. I can put the cameras up there.
Speaker 2: I figure like during zoom calls and podcasts, I generally
Speaker 2: try that. Now came bothers me.
Speaker 3: Now, Like, I didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: I put my notes up there.
Speaker 1: We'll pull the patrons see if they're like, what is
Speaker 1: he doing?
Speaker 2: Because I fisk you out, Mary, I think you should see.
Speaker 1: What it looks like.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it. I'm looking at the screen. Yes, anyways,
Speaker 2: thank goodness, you're here, married to you?
Speaker 1: Beat it?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's I rolled credits on it. It's only like
Speaker 3: three hours long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it's a breezy thing. I beat it in
Speaker 2: like two sittings.
Speaker 3: It's also it shouldn't be longer.
Speaker 2: No, like it is the perfect length.
Speaker 3: It's where it should be yep.
Speaker 2: It's also like like not only is like the writing
Speaker 2: really funny and everything, but like it's surreal and weird
Speaker 2: in that like you're weird little guy with no he
Speaker 2: doesn't talk, he doesn't have a name, you don't really
Speaker 2: know what he's doing. He's just kind of wandering around
Speaker 2: this British town. But like sometimes he's like normal size
Speaker 2: and he's like similar size to other people walking around
Speaker 2: the Times Square and everything. And then you like walk
Speaker 2: in to where this guy's fixing like a fish and
Speaker 2: chips thing and it cuts to like inside and you're
Speaker 2: like a tiny, tiny, tiny little guy like walking across
Speaker 2: the dude's belly as he's fixing the fish and chips machine,
Speaker 2: and it's just like there's no explanation. It's just super
Speaker 2: surreal weirdness sizes.
Speaker 3: You go through tubes, you go through tunnels, you go
Speaker 3: through pipes. At one point, it doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 3: very evocative. It's surreal again all euphemisms for the old
Speaker 3: in and out.
Speaker 2: There is that store that closes because you jump up
Speaker 2: on like it's like a food truck thing and you
Speaker 2: jump up and it's just a big ass in the
Speaker 2: window and you punch the ass and the sign comes
Speaker 2: down and it says like closed, dude to bum swaddling
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: It's like, I think it says closed due to slappy
Speaker 3: bum bum.
Speaker 2: That's right. There's a lot of good signs in the background,
Speaker 2: so like weird products and grocery stores and yeah, oh man,
Speaker 2: it's the.
Speaker 1: Aesthetic looks like British rural hey arnold like character.
Speaker 2: Wow wow yeah, let me see what it looks in screenshats.
Speaker 2: I was this went from a game I'd never heard
Speaker 2: of to like thirty minutes later, I was in love
Speaker 2: with this game. It's definitely going to be in my
Speaker 2: top ten of the year, I think. And again, I
Speaker 2: go into games. If you told me it's a comedy game,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of the main thing it's got going
Speaker 2: for it. And it's also like, you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: I guess it's story based. It's not.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it. It's kind of dewey. You're just
Speaker 2: kind of go around interacting with stores.
Speaker 3: It's very dewy. You're helping people with tasks, right, like
Speaker 3: the mowing of the lawn. That lady with the chip store,
Speaker 3: she's like oh, I want to make me chippies, but
Speaker 3: the oil is broken and we don't have a spana,
Speaker 3: and so you got to go find the wrench so
Speaker 3: that they can fix the chippy machine. And it's stupid,
Speaker 3: like none of this stuff is important or impactful, but
Speaker 3: it's funny, like the whole thing is cheeky and oozing charm.
Speaker 3: It's it feels great.
Speaker 2: To pleasure, but also it gets weirdly dark too, like
Speaker 2: there's the stuff with the meat, and like there are
Speaker 2: parts that were stance fucked up, kind of like I
Speaker 2: appreciate it stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's great. Uh, I do recommend it.
Speaker 3: I think right around the time it ends, I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, I've had it with this game, but like,
Speaker 3: you know, three hours is.
Speaker 2: The right amount of time in a way that like
Speaker 2: I wasn't like bored by the end. I was just like,
Speaker 2: all right, you stuck the whole Like every part of
Speaker 2: that I enjoyed and it ended, and I wasn't left
Speaker 2: being like, oh, another couple hours, and I didn't think
Speaker 2: it overstated, it just welcome. I thought, how much is it?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 3: I asked a good three hour game? It's not always
Speaker 3: like the best sell for certain people.
Speaker 2: But I think good about that.
Speaker 3: I think it's a fantastic experience, and it's to me,
Speaker 3: it's the equivalent of a good movie, right, so it's
Speaker 3: worth the cost.
Speaker 1: Of a movie to me.
Speaker 2: Oh it's on Switch. Oh that'd be a good Switch game.
Speaker 2: It's a great Steam that game. I played it on that.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, here's a price for it. And
Speaker 2: let me see make sure this is right. Well, I
Speaker 2: just didn't load once I clicked it. It says here
Speaker 2: on the Google search thing. It says sixteen ninety nine
Speaker 2: on Switch. Okay, I think that sound pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's the cost of a movie, you know, So I
Speaker 3: don't think that's bad. I would say, yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: three hour experience. That's like the one thing to keep
Speaker 3: in mind. I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: The developer's previous game is a free game, also on
Speaker 1: Steam called The Good Time Garden.
Speaker 2: Hm hmm.
Speaker 1: Look it up, because it just is just like sexual organs,
Speaker 1: well explore a throbbing.
Speaker 3: Not to Dan, that's just a garden looks throbbing pink world.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that naked creatures to gather
Speaker 1: food for your friend. The Schorcer experience, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: the video is pretty watching.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think this game called.
Speaker 3: The Birds and the Bees and he learned how to.
Speaker 1: Guard good Time God and it sounds like a Laslow game.
Speaker 1: This is my Good Time God.
Speaker 2: Oh this looks fucked up too man twenty nineteen, Good
Speaker 2: Time Garden interesting. Yeah is the developer, yeah, Cole Sepper,
Speaker 2: also a very British sounding name. But yeah, yeah, huge,
Speaker 2: huge into it, love it games? Are you funny?
Speaker 3: I think it's great, a very good. It felt like
Speaker 3: playing a modern cartoon.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, or like a just a great British comedy.
Speaker 2: You know if you likes myny Python's the obvious one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, British humor.
Speaker 3: Good stuff.
Speaker 1: I've been playing. I've played more Diablo FO. I got
Speaker 1: into like World tiers three and four. That game's pacing
Speaker 1: is odd. I think I mentioned this, but they don't
Speaker 1: really tell you that you can't go to World tier
Speaker 1: three until you beat the story, which I wish I
Speaker 1: knew because I was taking my time with it being
Speaker 1: an open world, as taking my time with side stuff.
Speaker 1: I wish I had just plowed through the story and
Speaker 1: then gone back to clean everything up and gotten more
Speaker 1: experienced for it on higher levels. I recommend people do that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that expansion. I think that game isn't
Speaker 1: a great spot. I'm having a lot of fun with
Speaker 1: it progression wise, loot wise, it becomes a lot. On
Speaker 1: World tier four, you're like finishing a challenge or going
Speaker 1: up in the battle pass, or getting three new good
Speaker 1: pieces of loot that you're going to equip every five minutes,
Speaker 1: so it becomes a lot. And I I something like,
Speaker 1: thank goodness, your hair sounds nice because Diablo four is
Speaker 1: definitely one of those games where I look back on,
Speaker 1: like the past two hours spent playing it and like, huh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was me enjoying a game
Speaker 1: or just continuing to play it because there was a
Speaker 1: drip feat of addictive things every five seconds whatever.
Speaker 2: Anything sexual in that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lilith herself is just all boobs and like
Speaker 1: a shelf.
Speaker 2: They call it.
Speaker 3: Put it all that's but put her on my best friend.
Speaker 1: Actually, no, a shelf might be either way. It was.
Speaker 1: Jabble four is niggat spot much better than used to be.
Speaker 1: But I haven't played much outside of that.
Speaker 2: I would like to try that more. I you know,
Speaker 2: I did put it on my Steam deck at one point,
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, this is on a flight, but you
Speaker 2: had to be like logged into battle neet or whatever, like, well,
Speaker 2: that sucks. That seems like that'd be an ideal game
Speaker 2: to play on a plane or something and just kill time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, having to well, plans have Wi Fi now,
Speaker 2: but I think it just has to connect. But still
Speaker 2: just let me play it offline.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Diable Forward run well on plane Wi Fi.
Speaker 2: Well if it just has to do like an online check,
Speaker 2: you know, it's all.
Speaker 1: I've seen bad rubber banding and then I had to
Speaker 1: reset my WiFi here. I don't know. Maybe maybe you'd
Speaker 1: have good luck. No, because it's actually running. You're in
Speaker 1: the world that you you make your characters in is
Speaker 1: a server of X number of players, okay, because it's
Speaker 1: you can run into other players in the open world.
Speaker 1: So it's not just like Diablo three for instance, that
Speaker 1: it just needs to check that you are in.
Speaker 2: Fact on the okay, gotcha. Yeah, I'm curious check it out.
Speaker 2: You know, you got codes for a PS five and
Speaker 2: I'd like to play it, And it's just things are
Speaker 2: actually kind of starting to come out now, so once,
Speaker 2: once there's a dearth, then I do want to check
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are picking up, but I agree. I really
Speaker 3: enjoyed it when it came out and I dropped off,
Speaker 3: and I'd like to get back into it.
Speaker 1: Uh, Mary, you is this blued Blood?
Speaker 3: I've been calling it hashtag blood spelled b l U
Speaker 3: D blued. Nineties cartoon style game Dungeon Crawler's probably how
Speaker 3: I would describe it. You're a girl in school and
Speaker 3: you find out that you're a vampire hunter of sorts,
Speaker 3: and you start killing creatures of the night with a
Speaker 3: lot of the tools that a school girl would have,
Speaker 3: like pencils. You throw the pencil like a like a dagger,
Speaker 3: and if you can get them in the heart, you
Speaker 3: can take out vampires that way. It's pretty neat, but
Speaker 3: it has a lot of really cheeky charm as well.
Speaker 3: The entire game is very phone focused, and you get
Speaker 3: all of your tasks through a social media app. You
Speaker 3: also take selfies throughout the game, and they have pre
Speaker 3: made reactions in your selfie, so when you take a
Speaker 3: selfie like with your friend or maybe in front of
Speaker 3: a fountain or something, you can be like smiling, and cute.
Speaker 3: You can make a silly face. I could be like
Speaker 3: really upset or disgusted, or make a puke face. It's
Speaker 3: kind of cute, and I think, ultimately this is a
Speaker 3: very cheeky, very funny game where you are solving a
Speaker 3: town crisis that's being overrun by vampires and you're essentially
Speaker 3: trying to kill them and figure out what's causing all
Speaker 3: of this. It's a bit unfortunate that I don't think
Speaker 3: a combat is that enjoyable to me. I think it's
Speaker 3: a bit simplistic. There's really not a lot of progression
Speaker 3: in it. And I also found myself just getting frustrated
Speaker 3: sometimes with the same enemies coming at me in the
Speaker 3: same ways again and again again. But I played through
Speaker 3: the whole damn thing. I burned through this game on
Speaker 3: a flight. I loved it. I really did like the
Speaker 3: story arc and going to school every day, solving puzzles
Speaker 3: with my best friend and figuring out how I was
Speaker 3: going to take down the main vampire demon god. And
Speaker 3: it ended up having like a pretty satisfying ending when
Speaker 3: I was able to like finally take him out. It's
Speaker 3: it's a cute game. It has some really incredible animation sequences,
Speaker 3: like watch the opening animation, You'll be like, what the hell, Like,
Speaker 3: where did this come from? It surprised me.
Speaker 2: I was just looking at some images and gifts here,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it reminds me that like maybe like two
Speaker 2: thousand style of like Nickelodeon, like Fairly Odds type stuff,
Speaker 2: and something about the setting and everything reminds me that
Speaker 2: remember they made that Scott Pilgrim game. Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 2: kind of just brought me back to that a little
Speaker 2: bit so.
Speaker 3: But it reminds me of Dexter's Laboratory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what Cartoon Network. Yeah, yeah, cause I
Speaker 2: think of that as like, you know, that era was
Speaker 2: kind of like beyond my you know, like my sisters
Speaker 2: watched that they were younger, and I remember thinking, like,
Speaker 2: when I look at that art style, it reminds me
Speaker 2: of like the cartoons my sisters would watch on like
Speaker 2: Cartoon Network or Fairly odd Parents and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: It's got style for days. It's very good. I just
Speaker 3: really thought it was so cheeky and funny, and I
Speaker 3: liked the conversations that took place in it. It is young.
Speaker 3: I would say this is like a younger focused game
Speaker 3: maybe for like younger audiences just the way that it's presented.
Speaker 3: But as long as you're okay with that, it's an enjoyable, simple,
Speaker 3: cutesy story that I completely I poured myself into it
Speaker 3: over like a six and a half seven hour flight,
Speaker 3: and I was like, that was great, what a good
Speaker 3: use of time.
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 3: When I finished it. There's a really crazy bus sequence
Speaker 3: that it's just all animated, and it's wild that they
Speaker 3: animated all these cut scenes the way that they did.
Speaker 3: I thought they put a lot of time and energy
Speaker 3: into making the animations as fluid and as smooth as
Speaker 3: they made it. So to me, that made up for
Speaker 3: the fact that I did not care for the combat system,
Speaker 3: and every once in a while I thought one of
Speaker 3: the puzzles was dumb, but generally I thought that was
Speaker 3: quite good.
Speaker 2: That's blood b l U d Mary remind me I've
Speaker 2: been thinking about Dungeons of Heinterberg for the last week
Speaker 2: or two, and I was like, yeah, I'm on so
Speaker 2: many fucking podcasts, and you know, like I talked to
Speaker 2: Bond called Tien about games, and sometimes I forget where
Speaker 2: somebody recommended something. Were you talking about Dungeons of Heindterberg. No, God,
Speaker 2: damn it. I thought it must have been you. Who
Speaker 2: the fuck was telling me about this game? Because I
Speaker 2: note to myself to play it? I downloaded it, and
Speaker 2: now I'm trying to remember who the fuck told me
Speaker 2: to play it? And yeah, I don't know if I'd
Speaker 2: like it or not. Have you played it?
Speaker 3: I have never heard of this game?
Speaker 2: The fuck was talking about it because it seemed like
Speaker 2: a merry game, Like when I downloaded it and looked
Speaker 2: at images and stuff like that day, this seems like
Speaker 2: a merry game.
Speaker 3: Looks like a merry game. Yeah, it's cool, like you're
Speaker 3: like skating, You're like a little skater chick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I heard.
Speaker 2: It's got a really good style. It's got these like
Speaker 2: Zelda style dungeons like I want to check it out,
Speaker 2: but I cannot remember who the fuck A weird way
Speaker 2: that it was a merry game, you just didn't know
Speaker 2: about it yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it is. Was that open world desert
Speaker 1: scavenger game with Japanese Breakfast soundtrack from two years ago.
Speaker 1: Japanese Breakfast. She did the soundtrack for it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. Mary. I feel like you should
Speaker 1: know this Japanese Breakfast is the artist she did this
Speaker 1: soundtrack for. It was like kind of quiet, meditative, open
Speaker 1: world game where you're a scavenger, but you're like, you
Speaker 1: get a hover bike. I think it was not Sable.
Speaker 2: It was a table Okay, I remember.
Speaker 3: That game was beautiful.
Speaker 1: That looks similar to like that cell shaded third person
Speaker 1: of Sable that Dungeons of Hinterberg does.
Speaker 2: That is Mary. We both try to play this before
Speaker 2: next time. Sure, I think this would be This seems
Speaker 2: like something we might both like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this does seem like something I would like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my summer slam plate. I'll play this, Okay, Great's easy?
Speaker 3: What else, Dan? What are you playing? Any World Championships?
Speaker 2: This is the most me old man shit imaginable, and
Speaker 2: it's for me, and it's hitting with me, and it's
Speaker 2: uh yeah, it's I don't I could not. If you
Speaker 2: didn't grow up with it, I don't think you care.
Speaker 2: I think if you don't care about speed running and
Speaker 2: you didn't grow up with any s stuff, it seems
Speaker 2: like a hard sale to me. But for guys like
Speaker 2: me and Greb and Minatti, who very much grew up
Speaker 2: playing this stuff, we are obsessed with this game, despite
Speaker 2: the inexplicable you've heard the leaderboard thing. No, oh god, okay,
Speaker 2: so get this. It's like, you know, over one hundred challenges,
Speaker 2: like little mini challenges of any s games. You know, Zelda, Mario,
Speaker 2: you know, how fast can you get the mushroom type stuff.
Speaker 2: There's no fucking leaderboards in the speed run game it's about.
Speaker 2: It's called the nes World Championships. There are no leader there,
Speaker 2: who are weekly leaderboards for specific challenges, no friends leaderboards,
Speaker 2: so you can't see how your times go up against
Speaker 2: your friends or anything. So we're fucking taking pictures of
Speaker 2: our switch screens and tweeting them to each other or
Speaker 2: discording to each other. That's how we have to track
Speaker 2: who's winning or whatever. It's just the most Nintendo shit
Speaker 2: ever where it's like you have this idea where it's
Speaker 2: just so obvious that they show the reveal trailer and
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, that's gonna be great. That'll be great
Speaker 2: for leader words. We'll get to like we'll do a
Speaker 2: bunch of streams and stuff and compete with each other. No,
Speaker 2: it has none of that shit. So uh, it's fun.
Speaker 2: I like seeing how fast I can beat Larry Koopa
Speaker 2: and Mario three. But you know, if I get a
Speaker 2: world record sitting by myself, I have to fucking like
Speaker 2: videotape my thing with my phone and then upload it
Speaker 2: to YouTube and go to speedrun dot com and upload
Speaker 2: which I have. I'm not too good to do that.
Speaker 2: I'll go do it. I'll do I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I do kind of like it, but I just wish
Speaker 2: it was in the fucking game, And then no understood
Speaker 2: how to just at how does sometimes look like this
Speaker 2: come through at like historically the most successful video game
Speaker 2: publisher and developer of all time, and not one person's like, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe the thing about getting fast times, maybe we should
Speaker 2: have leader words in this, but it's just insane and
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's also playing through a lot of
Speaker 2: these old games, it does reinforce some stuff I've always
Speaker 2: known of, like Man Kid Air Chris always sucked, and
Speaker 2: then having realizations that like, oh, excite Bike, despite the
Speaker 2: fact that everyone played it is not that fun. Ice
Speaker 2: Climber's always sucked, Curve is overrated. But some of the stuff,
Speaker 2: like Mario and everything extremely timeless, especially Mario three. Is
Speaker 2: all this stuff's fun, but it's all just very first
Speaker 2: party stuff you're not gonna and even those first party
Speaker 2: doesn't have like punch out, it's missing a lot of
Speaker 2: obvious ones. There's no Contra, there's no Caslvania. Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: It's just a lot easier to like, hey, we've got
Speaker 2: Mario and Zelda in Balloon Fight. Let's just put that out,
Speaker 2: you know, instead of having to do all the like, well,
Speaker 2: let's talk to Konami, let's talk to Capcom, get Mega
Speaker 2: Man and Caslvanian and all this shit in there. Like
Speaker 2: that would have made this a million times better, But
Speaker 2: as it is, Look, we're nostalgic dorks for this era.
Speaker 2: It's the shit we grew up on. So for a
Speaker 2: guy like me, I've been playing it obsessively for the
Speaker 2: last week. I mean I've probably made five thousand attempts
Speaker 2: at various challenges like not exaggerating the number, but yeah,
Speaker 2: some some huge mistakes there. And it's for a very
Speaker 2: specific audience. I would say, do you recommend it if
Speaker 2: you are a forty year old dude that started playing
Speaker 2: games on the nes he a, it's for you.
Speaker 3: If you're a footy year old mark walking around with
Speaker 3: a handful of cash being like I don't like money.
Speaker 3: I wish I had a mediocre game that reminded me
Speaker 3: of the good old days.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a good game. It's a good video game.
Speaker 3: They half asked it and they stole your monies.
Speaker 2: Oh that's classic Mary accusing devs of being lazy, lazy devs.
Speaker 2: That's your gimmick, Mary, Move on. All you ever do
Speaker 2: is lazy devs. Oh, Puddles and Spider Man, these lazy devs.
Speaker 3: Those are the only ones who put in any of
Speaker 3: the backbone these days.
Speaker 2: But I'm not recommending this game, do you two?
Speaker 1: This is the longest villain here. This is the this
Speaker 1: is the longest my list of games that I need
Speaker 1: to catch up on has been in years.
Speaker 2: Hit us with it.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's go back to the top game. The Operator.
Speaker 1: Cass Marshall of urt Polygon wrote about it, you're kind
Speaker 1: it's similar.
Speaker 2: To one operator.
Speaker 1: No, it's like her story kind of thing where you're
Speaker 1: I think it's like nineties or eighties. You the game
Speaker 1: interface itself is someone's computer screen nineties and you're like
Speaker 1: trying to solve like Deep State CIA crime ship by
Speaker 1: zooming in on different suspects on different cameras and like
Speaker 1: going through this guy's files and his computer. Next a Ranger,
Speaker 1: a role puzzling adventure. I actually don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: I've wrote it down though.
Speaker 2: Next, Oh, this was gong show like Mary here, uh
Speaker 2: where it.
Speaker 1: Goes out to my laptop? Uh, Panta Land? Lost in
Speaker 1: Fanta Land, like don't you want to want to fast?
Speaker 1: Lost in Fanta Land. It is described as into the
Speaker 1: Breach meets Final Fantasy Tactics. It's like a road on
Speaker 1: a small board. But I'm sorry, what's the name of
Speaker 1: this Lost in Fanta Land? One word is it? Is?
Speaker 1: It like fantas and that can be up for the
Speaker 1: worst title of the year, So you're apparently it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: Lost in Fanta lande is a retro pixel style roguelike
Speaker 1: game that blends deck building and turn based tactics on
Speaker 1: a checkerboard. But it's like Final Fantasy Tactics vibes.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to put that steam deck for flight
Speaker 2: well people.
Speaker 1: Ken Levine was tweeting about it and I was like, oh, damn,
Speaker 1: this game does sound sick.
Speaker 2: Oh oh I want to play this. Oh yeah that
Speaker 2: I totally see the end of the breach.
Speaker 1: Next this looks good. What the hell's fallen aces about
Speaker 1: the Dave Osher game? It's the you know oh yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, like noir kind of.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I still got to play crow Country.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so good.
Speaker 1: Dungeons of Hinderberg's on there now. I still have not
Speaker 1: played the sniper game where you're going from guy to
Speaker 1: guy with the bullet. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Children, Children of the Sun, Oh yeah yeah, suncorn.
Speaker 1: That's actually it an animal. Well, I have not caught
Speaker 1: up on things. Anytime I play something, I don't have
Speaker 1: my time to play games lately. Yeah. Between my my
Speaker 1: like vacation and then work, I'm playing other stuff specifically
Speaker 1: for work. Uh, and then free time, I'm like, I'll
Speaker 1: play like an Hour of the Elbow because I can't
Speaker 1: start anything and really sink into it.
Speaker 3: I play crow Country again.
Speaker 1: I know, I saw that I really need to play it.
Speaker 1: Tim Turry and I were talking about it.
Speaker 3: It's even better the second time. I want to say
Speaker 3: this because I don't think I express The first time
Speaker 3: I played crow Country, I was like, this is great.
Speaker 3: It's really similar to Silent Hill, and it's great for
Speaker 3: horror game enthusiasts because it's built very much in love
Speaker 3: of old horror games like Silent Hill, so old fans
Speaker 3: would love to correct. The thing I don't think I
Speaker 3: conveyed is I gave this to my twelve year old
Speaker 3: niece and she played through ninety percent of the game
Speaker 3: in two days. She did not stop playing this game.
Speaker 3: She's fucking addicted and she's very good at it. And
Speaker 3: what I recognize is is this is not a game
Speaker 3: for us oldies that are like wow, this reminds me
Speaker 3: of games of old that are really good. They don't
Speaker 3: make them like this no more. This is a modern
Speaker 3: take on a game style that is still fucking good
Speaker 3: to this day. It has modern niceties that I appreciate
Speaker 3: that they did that I think help it be a
Speaker 3: more modern game. But it looks and has that vibe
Speaker 3: of a classic horror game. And she she absolutely loved it,
Speaker 3: and it made me realize, like this is this is
Speaker 3: like gody material, Like this is not just a game
Speaker 3: that I liked because I because I'm nostalgic. It's a
Speaker 3: very good game.
Speaker 2: I think that's extremely telling what you're saying, because like
Speaker 2: I have not played that, but I've just seen, you know,
Speaker 2: screenshots and a little video of it, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, of course, my thought is like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: like you know, late nineties to Rival Horror. You saying
Speaker 2: that the gameplay is up to snuff to a degree
Speaker 2: that a young person today could find joy in it
Speaker 2: removed from nostalgia, Like, I think that's a pretty awesome
Speaker 2: like serving two Master's thing of Like you can get
Speaker 2: the nostalgia hip, but also it's like a good game
Speaker 2: if you're a kid who doesn't give a fuck about
Speaker 2: you know, she has all.
Speaker 3: Those games, she's never played any of that shit before,
Speaker 3: but she's always told me that she likes Harry games.
Speaker 3: But she's twelve, and that's tough, right, because I can't
Speaker 3: give her a really fucked up game. Croak contes is
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 2: I bet she would just as much enjoy to do
Speaker 2: speed run challenges on Kiddick Right, kids, you got kid
Speaker 2: writing the name, it's for you.
Speaker 3: I would love the nes World Championships.
Speaker 2: No, she would, No, she would not this game.
Speaker 3: This game really did it threads the needle. I understood
Speaker 3: the references and the appreciation of old Rezie and Silent Hill.
Speaker 3: She appreciated it because she was like, it's very scary
Speaker 3: there's monsters that are coming at me. I don't have
Speaker 3: that much AMMO. The game is also very forgiving. When
Speaker 3: you run out of AMMO, you can kick a machine
Speaker 3: and it'll give you like eight more bullets. You have
Speaker 3: to be very smart with how you use them. They're forgiving,
Speaker 3: but it does have save systems, and if you forget
Speaker 3: to save or you don't save in a while and
Speaker 3: you die, she lost progress and that was hard for
Speaker 3: her to handle. But I actually loved as the aunt
Speaker 3: in this situation when she was like, oh, man, I
Speaker 3: have to go backwards and do that again. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know what to do now, don't you?
Speaker 1: And she was like yeah.
Speaker 3: She like got back in the I've never felt more
Speaker 3: like a parent, like a proud parent, than watching my
Speaker 3: niece play Crow Country and just just ultimately like, by
Speaker 3: the end of it, really own it and understand how
Speaker 3: she was going to get through all these monsters. And
Speaker 3: the game does get pretty intimidating, especially towards the end.
Speaker 3: I was just so proud of her the way she
Speaker 3: got through it. So I'm buying it for her now.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like set her on a path, I
Speaker 3: think where we're both like really stoked that she's going
Speaker 3: to start playing these scary games together.
Speaker 2: It sounds like she's coddled and she's never going to
Speaker 2: get a job unless she knows how to use an
Speaker 2: ank ribbon to save that's right, Yeah, she's I'm going.
Speaker 3: To make my your Elden ring and tell her if
Speaker 3: she can't finish it, I'm never talking to her again.
Speaker 1: Yeah this okay? So the game the other game I
Speaker 1: mentioned a Ranger, a role puzzling adventure. Looking at video
Speaker 1: of it now on Steam, and it looks you're on
Speaker 1: these tieills like a Zelda esque kind of level layout. However,
Speaker 1: you're not moving your character. Technically, you're moving the tiles
Speaker 1: of the level to move your character across it. So
Speaker 1: you're picking up scissors to cut stuff and puzzle it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I see almost like.
Speaker 1: High Rule that music game.
Speaker 2: Crypto the Necro Dancer. Yeah, it's like you're reminding me
Speaker 2: what the slide puzzles, you know, the like grid three
Speaker 2: and you gotta make it to you know the thing.
Speaker 1: Also, the description is find your way in a world
Speaker 1: of breezy, thoughtful puzzles along a charming journey of self discovery.
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of self discovery. I don't want. I
Speaker 1: don't give a ship.
Speaker 2: Have you ever found self discovery in a video game?
Speaker 3: I don't care. I refuse to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: Same you can't make me grow. I refuse. Like learning
Speaker 2: something about yourself through a video game.
Speaker 1: In the game is a character who is discovering herself
Speaker 1: on this Yeah, what I just made I'm joking it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't need another
Speaker 1: character finding themselves.
Speaker 2: And I don't need a game to teach me anything
Speaker 2: about myself either.
Speaker 1: Pocket launchers and big knives and cops are chasing them
Speaker 1: in the woods.
Speaker 3: Jump button, Yeah, I require a jump button.
Speaker 2: Any numbers above things, heads bars, life bars.
Speaker 3: I want to be able to throw pencils and stab
Speaker 3: vampires through the heart.
Speaker 2: Checkpoints No, no ink, ribbons in ribbons.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play crow Country soon. I have it downloaded.
Speaker 1: That one.
Speaker 3: That one's up there for me, So I'm glad I
Speaker 3: got to talk about again. And then the last one
Speaker 3: that I have to mention briefly, Dan, this one might
Speaker 3: be for you. No, I'm gonna tell you things that
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna like about it. And then I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you the things I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 3: like about it, and then ultimately I would like you
Speaker 3: to play it and tell me if I'm right or wrong. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: this game is very much like Powerwash Simulator. Okay, but
Speaker 3: instead of cleaning, the world is completely in black and white,
Speaker 3: and you are essentially a color gun and you have
Speaker 3: to color the world in with like a washing style.
Speaker 2: Gun like the Unfinished Swan. You play that kind of okay?
Speaker 3: I like that game great. The game is takes place
Speaker 3: in Montreal. I don't think that's a pro oricon.
Speaker 1: Like the third best city on the planets.
Speaker 2: There are so many good wrestlers from Canada.
Speaker 3: I'm pro it's very clean.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You are an artiste and the world is in black
Speaker 3: and white, and as you color the spaces in your
Speaker 3: apartment or in the local area, everything that you color
Speaker 3: becomes a part of your rolodex for you an artist
Speaker 3: to paint. So if I color like a cat and
Speaker 3: the sidewalk and a cone for you know those orange
Speaker 3: cones for.
Speaker 1: Construction unfinished.
Speaker 3: Now, when I go to paint, I can pull up
Speaker 3: the bird and the traffic cone and the cat and
Speaker 3: I can make a painting out of them, and it's
Speaker 3: my painting.
Speaker 2: Real quick. I'm looking at a video right now. I
Speaker 2: just want to sure if we said the name of
Speaker 2: the game Eta. Okay, I'm looking at the video right now.
Speaker 2: I love the look of this, and it's like, is
Speaker 2: this watercolor?
Speaker 3: Is that kind of definitely watercolor style? It's simple at first,
Speaker 3: and I think you might, like some people might be like, oh,
Speaker 3: this looks like an indie ass indie game, and I
Speaker 3: think it has those elements to it. But it's so
Speaker 3: fucking charming. So let me just give you the rest
Speaker 3: of the game loop. You paint the things that you've
Speaker 3: seen now that you can paint them, and then you
Speaker 3: take them to a cafe and you put them on
Speaker 3: the wall and people buy your art, and then you
Speaker 3: use the money to buy shit to build your apartment.
Speaker 3: And then so I was like buying like nicer clothes,
Speaker 3: and I was buy I bought maple syrup because I'm
Speaker 3: in Montreal. I bought a hot dog, I bought a
Speaker 3: chair for my kitchen. I've just been decorating my apartment
Speaker 3: and making artwork for the locals and selling it in
Speaker 3: the cafe. And it's it's extremely cozy and it's it's
Speaker 3: quite lovely.
Speaker 2: Can you paint things? So is it like a you know,
Speaker 2: paint by the numbers where you have to do things
Speaker 2: a certain way or can you kind of paint like whatever, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can make this apple blue, you know, right?
Speaker 3: So you can alter stuff very significantly. What I really
Speaker 3: like about this game is you can. It's they're three
Speaker 3: D objects, and you can change the position of them
Speaker 3: in every conceivable way, size the way that it you know,
Speaker 3: whether it's looking right at you or whatever, and you
Speaker 3: can change the colors of them. As far as I'm aware,
Speaker 3: and I could be wrong, I have not seen a
Speaker 3: free hand paint brush, so I have not been able
Speaker 3: to like literally paint like sure Mary rules suck it.
Speaker 3: I can't do that. But I can make really fun
Speaker 3: pieces of art with all the crap that I've found
Speaker 3: in the world and I and I can place it
Speaker 3: in any way, and I can color it in lots
Speaker 3: of different ways. You earn things throughout the game. So
Speaker 3: in the very beginning, you pick one color on your
Speaker 3: palette and you get lots of shades of that color,
Speaker 3: and then to earn other colors, you have to find
Speaker 3: colors in the world, and then it it adds to
Speaker 3: your palette.
Speaker 2: You know, I think you're right. I think this is
Speaker 2: something I could enjoy, you know, in thinking about this, like,
Speaker 2: I think there is this I don't know if you'd
Speaker 2: call it a genre, but the type of game where
Speaker 2: you are doing things that would seem mundane or time consuming,
Speaker 2: but you know, you're building towards something. I do really
Speaker 2: find the satisfaction that. I think the two that come
Speaker 2: to mind immediately are you mentioned powerwash simulator and also unpacking.
Speaker 2: You know, if you describe these the people who don't
Speaker 2: play games, like oh, yeah, you're just washing stup off
Speaker 2: a car or whatever. You're you're just unpacking boxes, It's like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you know here? It's like, well,
Speaker 2: you're kind of like painting things and stuff. It probably
Speaker 2: just sounds mundane, but.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I get a lot of satisfaction of it. I also
Speaker 2: love that, like that type of game is the perfect
Speaker 2: Like I've got something on the background, you know, I've
Speaker 2: got wrestling on the TV, or I'm listening to a
Speaker 2: podcast or something, and I'm just kind of playing this
Speaker 2: and zoning out or a plane game, you know, like
Speaker 2: I think this shit really works for me? And uh,
Speaker 2: do you think control wise? I assume you probably played
Speaker 2: with keyboard and mouse. Do you think it would work
Speaker 2: well for steam deck?
Speaker 3: I played it with a game pad, so I think
Speaker 3: you could play it with a steam Deck, providing that
Speaker 3: it it doesn't overload, because I think when I downloaded,
Speaker 3: I was shocked that it was like nine gigs, which
Speaker 3: means obviously there's a lot of textures in this game.
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know which.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, but I played on a game pad, So
Speaker 3: yes you should. In theory, the control should work. It's
Speaker 3: just a matter of whether or not the steam deck
Speaker 3: can handle it.
Speaker 2: But even if it's kind of chunky, it's not like
Speaker 2: this is a platform or an action game where like,
Speaker 2: you know, like and put you know, like, if it
Speaker 2: chugs a.
Speaker 3: Little bit back to it'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Do you have you messed with that setting on the
Speaker 2: steam Deck. I have found this to be a lifesaver,
Speaker 2: that TDP setting. No, oh my god, thing, Oh it's playing.
Speaker 3: Like the Witcher or anything on my steam deck. I'm
Speaker 3: always playing some like Little Bandy Dark Mary.
Speaker 2: This is extremely for you. It's something where it's like
Speaker 2: I think it defaults if you hit the whatever, the
Speaker 2: it's not the same. I think it's the three dots
Speaker 2: on the right side, the one that pulls up the
Speaker 2: like Bluetooth settings and the power settings and all that.
Speaker 2: You go to the power settings, you scroll down and
Speaker 2: there's like a TDP setting and I think it's default
Speaker 2: into like fifteen. And so that's the thing where it's
Speaker 2: like you're trying to play cyberpunk or something you wanted
Speaker 2: a fifteen, but the stuff you're playing, like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're playing a little indie game, little tile based thing,
Speaker 2: or I've done the slot with Hollow Night, you can
Speaker 2: bring that down. You can kind of like, okay, this game,
Speaker 2: I'll bring it down to five and see how it runs.
Speaker 2: And if it runs perfectly, great, keep it at five.
Speaker 2: If it's chugging, you know, bump it up, give it
Speaker 2: a little more power, bring it to seven. You know,
Speaker 2: find the sweet spot where you don't feel like you're
Speaker 2: sacrificing any performance, and you will see on the estimated
Speaker 2: like power drain and stuff like that, like it will
Speaker 2: jump up by hours.
Speaker 1: Wow. Steam Deck too, though I do have the O lead.
Speaker 2: But I check if you have the base model. I
Speaker 2: don't know what.
Speaker 1: The battery life just inherently better. Also on the well,
Speaker 1: it's a little better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like if I'm playing elden Ring on
Speaker 2: that thing at fifteen tdp, I'm going to get two
Speaker 2: and a half hours maybe out of it if that,
Speaker 2: you know, but you elden Ring is not a good
Speaker 2: example because you wouldn't want to bump that down. But yeah,
Speaker 2: hollow Night, you know any of these like older games,
Speaker 2: I'm playing Windwaker, I'll bump it down to like seven
Speaker 2: or eight, and you will like double your battery life.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: That's a good advice.
Speaker 2: I will check this out all download this for the
Speaker 2: same deck. I'm gonna get lost in pants Land. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get Etta and Dungeons of Hinterberg are on the
Speaker 2: shortlist for my flights coming up.
Speaker 1: Good Mary, do you have anything else?
Speaker 3: I very briefly played a Gotcha Pond game. I don't
Speaker 3: know if anybody else played it. I think we all
Speaker 3: got little codes for it. It's uh, it's very much
Speaker 3: like that Oh God, I forget the name of it,
Speaker 3: but it's the one with the fruit and the fruits
Speaker 3: combined into bigger fruits.
Speaker 2: Sweaker game.
Speaker 3: Sweeker.
Speaker 2: It's very much.
Speaker 3: It's it's that, but it's gotcha pon's and so you're
Speaker 3: combining them to get them to you know, be the
Speaker 3: biggest gotcha pond that you can get.
Speaker 2: What is that? I hear that term? What is gotcha?
Speaker 3: Okay? In Japan? You know when you see all those things,
Speaker 3: you put quarter in it and.
Speaker 1: You captal toy stuff toys Okay, right, right, games like
Speaker 1: Gnchin and Honky Starro and Sendless Zone zero embrace that
Speaker 1: and put that in digital form.
Speaker 2: Is it basically loop boxes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's system ones or rares or shinies.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Also people will like churn the quarters to get the
Speaker 3: specialty ones.
Speaker 1: The difference being, and I might be butchering this a bit,
Speaker 1: the difference being with gotcha, you know, a pool of
Speaker 1: potential things you can get of rarities. Yeah, no, ess
Speaker 1: actually it is similar. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you know Bonco's gambling. Okay, Well, it's
Speaker 2: well you'd also like buy the sets because like I
Speaker 2: saw a story about these piman or no, it's a
Speaker 2: Bryan Altano post of these uh pickman terrarium things they
Speaker 2: have in Japan, and there's like six of them you
Speaker 2: can get it. And Bonk was in Japan and I
Speaker 2: texted her. I was like, oh my god, if you
Speaker 2: see this, get it. And instead of like sitting at
Speaker 2: a Gotcha machine and trying to get me all of them,
Speaker 2: she did find a place where it's here's the box
Speaker 2: of all six of them, and like now they're doing Nintendo,
Speaker 2: who's doing ones where it's like just the face buttons
Speaker 2: for all their consoles. So it's like, here's just a
Speaker 2: circle keychain with the S and E S buttons, or
Speaker 2: here's the analog stick for the sixty four or the
Speaker 2: buttons for the GameCube. And now it's like I've sent
Speaker 2: at to Bonk, like please look for this in Japan.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's that like limited, limited batch capital machine
Speaker 2: type separately.
Speaker 3: And man, maybe yeah, so that's what a Gotchapon is.
Speaker 3: This game is more like the sweek of game. I
Speaker 3: think it's probably ideal for kids. I actually wish I
Speaker 3: had it when I was with my nieces, because just
Speaker 3: as much as I think my twelve year old would
Speaker 3: have loved Crow Country and she did, I think that
Speaker 3: the five year old niece that I have would have
Speaker 3: loved Gotchapon. It just seems like it lends itself to
Speaker 3: a younger audience. It's very colorful and cute. It has
Speaker 3: nice little like yay sound effects and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It's it's obviously for younger audiences, but it's adorable and
Speaker 3: it does its job, so I think it's probably great
Speaker 3: for kids.
Speaker 1: Nice cool, all right, A bunch of stuff to add
Speaker 1: to my list, which is not getting any shorter.
Speaker 2: Also, I have one dungeon left a wind Waker and
Speaker 2: it's it's still an incredible game.
Speaker 1: What's the last dungeon? Uh? You got to go?
Speaker 2: It's like the Earth. I think I beat the Wind
Speaker 2: Temple and I'm going to the Earth Temple.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: The little leaf dude, I gotta go float around within
Speaker 2: the last hungeine Yeah, yeah, a little corrac fella. Nice god,
Speaker 2: I'm so good. That's been one. I've been playing on
Speaker 2: planes too, and there's something about wind Waker on planes
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, this is a good, just kind
Speaker 2: of journey game.
Speaker 3: We play it on a boat.
Speaker 2: I've had on boats. You two are the ones on
Speaker 2: boats all the time, just saying I've been on a
Speaker 2: boat in a while.
Speaker 3: That's like not the right Zelda game for a plane.
Speaker 3: I guess Skyrid, but that's would be the one to
Speaker 3: play I have.
Speaker 2: That one is not good. Really, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to get a boat.
Speaker 1: Here's the Kingdom.
Speaker 2: Oh if I could take a boat everywhere, take it
Speaker 2: to Europe. I would love to take a fucking boat.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure it takes months or whatever or is
Speaker 2: that just wait? It used to take months when it
Speaker 2: was like the Nina and the Pinza and stuff. But like,
Speaker 2: I can you take a boat to Europe quicker?
Speaker 1: Now? Yeah? Right way?
Speaker 3: Since the Santa Maria down.
Speaker 2: Well, I know you're a boat science like there's still
Speaker 2: just privy to the it's just the winds, right.
Speaker 3: Shrap you to a rocket.
Speaker 1: We'll get There's three ships you just mentioned were six
Speaker 1: hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: Right, But I look at the boat now and it's like,
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have motors and stuff. I'm sure it's better.
Speaker 2: But is it like twice as fast?
Speaker 1: It's more than twice. I know you can, like it's
Speaker 1: a matter of weeks, not as long as it.
Speaker 3: Took doff like to sail across the ocean.
Speaker 2: Blue weeks is still a lot loser is a boat
Speaker 2: trip I mean it's gonna be longer than the like
Speaker 2: eight hours or ten hours.
Speaker 3: I gotta take so to play crossing game.
Speaker 1: Okay, who is this guy?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: A ship from New York to London is generally seven nights.
Speaker 2: I think seven nights. I wonder if I could expense
Speaker 2: a boat triplet's stay atlantic. Is it cheap to get
Speaker 2: a boat?
Speaker 1: No? O?
Speaker 2: And then once you get there, it's not like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're going to like London, it's not like on
Speaker 2: the shore you gotta take a train or something. I
Speaker 2: don't know to figure that out.
Speaker 1: I mean some cities are on the shore.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be London on a beach in Europe, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a dest ranting now. Yeah, the airports have taxis
Speaker 2: and stuff. Do they have ubers in Europe?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okayft.
Speaker 1: You've been to Europe before, haven't you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I've been several times. Yeah, but like
Speaker 2: only once in Uber times.
Speaker 1: I would. I think Uber is still more pervasive than lyft. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but either one, I mean land and then press the
Speaker 1: button that says uber and if you find ubers, and
Speaker 1: then if you don't find press the button that says
Speaker 1: the lift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I guess we took an over to
Speaker 2: the airport. Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, Yeah, they got
Speaker 2: to find in Europe. Yeah, they take europe dollars though
Speaker 2: you can't like it'll translate it on the app though.
Speaker 1: Yep, you're gonna be okay in Germany.
Speaker 2: Oh, what's them there? It's gonna be a bunch of
Speaker 2: people I know and stuff that'll be good.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then it's just a flight. Assumes I'm knowing with
Speaker 2: the flight, it's just like, all right, let's just have
Speaker 2: fun in Germany.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, are you just doing Cologne for games?
Speaker 2: Come? And then I got a little pit stop in
Speaker 2: England on the way back.
Speaker 1: That's the same trip. You're stopping in England.
Speaker 2: And I've got an England trip before that trip. And
Speaker 2: then I come back and then I go to Germany
Speaker 2: and England. Okay, gotcha, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, England's not bad from Minneapolis. It's gonna be seven hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not bad to Heathrow or yep, yep, sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll live.
Speaker 1: All right. You guys want to do emails, Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: as usual, you can write into Firescape cast at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. Questions, comments, thoughts, insights might ask. I read
Speaker 1: your question, vibes, question on the air, got a couple here,
Speaker 1: I think so usually try yeah, one game, one non game.
Speaker 1: I'll read this first one because it was a response
Speaker 1: to something I said from France, and then whoever can
Speaker 1: take this second one? Greetings. My brother has been going
Speaker 1: to school at a seminary to become priest, and one
Speaker 1: of the more seasoned fathers there gave him a bottle
Speaker 1: of Chartruse as a gift. We shared a drink together
Speaker 1: during his most recent visit home. Mike, I was curious
Speaker 1: if you ever ended up tasting Chartruse, the green variety.
Speaker 1: I was able to finally have a glass for myself,
Speaker 1: but was hit with immediate heartburn. I was wondering what
Speaker 1: your experience might have been with it, and if you
Speaker 1: guys ever run into similar problems with cocktails, drinks, digestive heartburn,
Speaker 1: et cetera. I figured, I hate this. What are you doing?
Speaker 2: You were talking?
Speaker 1: Go ahead to the listeners, Dan, It's just zoomed in
Speaker 1: very close and looking at me through the teleprompter.
Speaker 3: Making us uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Hey, yes, I have I brought back a bottle of
Speaker 1: I brought back a bottle of green Chartruse toast from
Speaker 1: Paris because it was forty five year old there as
Speaker 1: opposed to like one hundred dollars here with a shortage.
Speaker 1: I also brought back like the super green variety, the
Speaker 1: delixur it look it's called, which is great. We're going
Speaker 1: to hang on to that. It fortunately does not give
Speaker 1: me heartburn. However, one thing that it's it's not really
Speaker 1: like a cocktail that messes with me. But I'm definitely
Speaker 1: getting more and more lactose intolerant, like by the week.
Speaker 1: Which it's not fun because I can eat like and
Speaker 1: I'm starting to figure it out. I can eat like
Speaker 1: real cheese, like non heavily processed stuff, ice cream, artificial
Speaker 1: artificial stuff, ice cream like shitty like the cheese. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't tried frozen yogurt. That's that's I'd
Speaker 1: be interesting because I could do Greek yogurt. That's relatively fine.
Speaker 1: Uh it's ice cream. Just almost immediately when I'm done
Speaker 1: it hits me.
Speaker 2: Is shit or what happens? I don't really know.
Speaker 1: The stomach in in general, it's just one of those
Speaker 1: things where you're like I need to. Oh no, it's
Speaker 1: stomach and shitting. Yeah, okay, but it's not like you
Speaker 1: swallow it and you ship right away with ice cream.
Speaker 1: It happens quickly like I need to. If I wanted
Speaker 1: ice cream really badly, I would have to like plan afterward.
Speaker 3: Sometimes if I put human food near my dog's mouth,
Speaker 3: as he's like leaning into bite it, he farts.
Speaker 1: His body getting ready.
Speaker 3: His body is preprocessing that he's about to get human love.
Speaker 2: Dogs They're awesome.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 2: Let me get this out of the way. Now, let
Speaker 2: me pre fart.
Speaker 3: You guys don't pre fart. Oh I do a pre post,
Speaker 3: preman and post fart. It's all part of the process.
Speaker 3: It's just constantly farting.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Now, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: I doubt you too want to talk abouts or heartburn,
Speaker 1: but I just want to read that because I want to.
Speaker 3: I've never had heartburn.
Speaker 1: What's it like?
Speaker 2: I've got it. I don't get it a lot, which
Speaker 2: is surprising considering how much garbage I eat.
Speaker 1: It's like when you get it though, yeah, like bliody,
Speaker 1: It's just.
Speaker 2: There's something very concerning anytime there is a feeling in
Speaker 2: your like like under your stern, you know, like where
Speaker 2: that's where my heart goes. That's a very scary way,
Speaker 2: whether it's a gas bubble or heartburn or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine, mine, I get like acid reflux or I
Speaker 1: have gotten acid reflux like twice in my life, and
Speaker 1: it fucking sucked, and I feel I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a matter of meat like acid.
Speaker 1: Yes it does. It feels like stomach bile is just
Speaker 1: kind of like gurgling in your throat a little too
Speaker 1: much and you have to keep.
Speaker 2: Swallowing to bubbly and hot, and it just feel the
Speaker 2: esophag is filled with this like bubbly. Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what like, I have not gotten
Speaker 1: it in the last four years for some reason. I
Speaker 1: think maybe I had just been sick and then I
Speaker 1: went back to like drinking too quickly. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: But I feel for people who get it a lot,
Speaker 1: because holy shit, I would meet I would. I understand
Speaker 1: why people make a lot of money selling medicine for it.
Speaker 2: I will get it where It's like, you know, I've
Speaker 2: eaten so much fast food in my life, but like,
Speaker 2: you know, if I got a big ass thing in
Speaker 2: Taco bell on Friday and had some leftovers the next morning.
Speaker 2: I'd be fine. But sometimes I'll do, you know, to
Speaker 2: steal a phrase from Lucy James a rat weekend where
Speaker 2: it's like I'm just bang bang bang, just tacobout McDonald's
Speaker 2: pizza Hut, or you know, like I'm on the road
Speaker 2: and I'm just eating garbage. And after like two half
Speaker 2: three days of just NonStop that and then he throws
Speaker 2: my drinking on there, I will start to get that
Speaker 2: thing in the last day where it's like, oh, my
Speaker 2: body is like yelling at me to like eat a fruit,
Speaker 2: you idiot. What are you to drink water? This is
Speaker 2: not good for you.
Speaker 1: Like your body will tell you you go days without
Speaker 1: drinking water.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. But I mean like your
Speaker 2: body will just clearly just be like we need stuff
Speaker 2: that's good for us.
Speaker 3: Dan doesn't drink water, and then one day a year
Speaker 3: he basically chugs like eight gallons.
Speaker 2: You know right now, Prime, that's not water. Yes, they're
Speaker 2: both water.
Speaker 3: There's no hydration and Prime, you are drinking chemicals.
Speaker 2: No, there is Look, say what you wild up, Prime?
Speaker 2: The taste or whatever it is water, it is hydration.
Speaker 3: It's not water.
Speaker 2: Okay, Gatorai hydration. Does gatorid hydrate you?
Speaker 1: Is? Uh? Yes, Gatorade hydration hydration.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never had a red Bull. I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about that. Prime is it does hydrate.
Speaker 2: It's like a sportsdrink. It's no different than like a
Speaker 2: Gatorade or something in that way. It's coconut water and
Speaker 2: like electrolytes and shit, wait wait wait dan.
Speaker 1: Every time I search Prime, a new lawsuit comes up.
Speaker 1: The the US Olympic Committee sued Logan Paul's Prime Energy
Speaker 1: drink over Oh this is a copyright.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. Copyright can't get you sick. Wait's hydration
Speaker 2: thing and so liquid death. There's just water. It's Seltzer water.
Speaker 2: That's not hydration. That's not water.
Speaker 1: It has seltz hydra. What does Seltzer does not hydrate you?
Speaker 1: All that much liquid depth is water. It's just we're
Speaker 1: so hydrating. It doesn't hydrate you as much as water.
Speaker 2: I also drink a lot of just like shoot water,
Speaker 2: real water, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, yeah, Seltzer. Seltzer will hydrate you. You have
Speaker 1: to just drink more of it because it's so much
Speaker 1: of Seltzer is just air.
Speaker 2: I am, for the first time in my life drinking
Speaker 2: more water and then also seltzer and hydration drinks than
Speaker 2: I am soda. You know, my entire life until now,
Speaker 2: I've drank way more soda than water, and lately, I
Speaker 2: know sometimes it's in the form of a liquid death
Speaker 2: or a prime or something. Frequently I'd say I drink
Speaker 2: more just normal ass tap water than anything.
Speaker 1: What the story you just told though, did not paint
Speaker 1: this picture at all. What part you're just saying, like
Speaker 1: how your body has to remind you after.
Speaker 2: On a rat weekend. On a rat weekend, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes I'll super hydrate. I'll throw a liquid
Speaker 2: IV or something into a bottle of water. I had
Speaker 2: one of those before this podcast here because I know
Speaker 2: I'd be drinking. I'm good at hydration. You don't even
Speaker 2: tell me about hydration hydra than you.
Speaker 1: I highly doubt that. How muchast like probably a gallon
Speaker 1: and a half, two gallons.
Speaker 2: I've had, like three, No you haven't, I have? Uh wow,
Speaker 2: Mary's got three Lacroix. Lacroix is good too. I love
Speaker 2: the seltzer, or as we call it water, The la
Speaker 2: Croix every bit as water as liquid Death is.
Speaker 3: You were await, okay, yes, no, no, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like if the water contents equivalent, Liquid
Speaker 1: Death only has sugar that Lacroix does not have.
Speaker 2: It has like a gram in one of those big
Speaker 2: ass cans.
Speaker 1: That's more than Lacroix. So I was right.
Speaker 2: No sugar like a spin dript. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like a spin dripped.
Speaker 1: Sugars from the juice though, or from the fruits. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure liquid deaths sugar is artificial stuff, whereas spin
Speaker 1: drift is actual, the like sugar from natural fruits that
Speaker 1: they add the juice in.
Speaker 2: I should this up, Dan, I.
Speaker 1: Can't believe you're arguing about water.
Speaker 2: Let me see what blueberry buzz saw liquid death. Let
Speaker 2: me see what that has, or green guillotine, slaughterberry, grim leaper,
Speaker 2: rest and peach. Let's see.
Speaker 1: I love liquid Death. I don't like stock up on it,
Speaker 1: but when I'm at like game studios, I have it.
Speaker 1: I chug it.
Speaker 2: Do you have that now?
Speaker 1: Yes? Something like the West.
Speaker 2: Coast stock nice, very nice.
Speaker 1: I like the mango a lot.
Speaker 2: That's the mango chainsaw. That's I had that I was
Speaker 2: on a road dripped. I just randomly grabbed it off
Speaker 2: the shelf pedagas station. I was like, oh shit, this
Speaker 2: stuff is really good.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: Liquid Death. I'm just saying it's not not if you
Speaker 1: were drinking Lacroix. I would if you had to pick
Speaker 1: one that is healthier, fair enough, Lacroix by ultimately drink water.
Speaker 2: Just but between if I'm having liquid death and lieu
Speaker 2: of a starry or a fantat or something, it's a
Speaker 2: step up right.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, for sure.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 1: I was never arguing that. I was saying, like, spin
Speaker 1: drift has sugar, but spin drift sugar I believe is
Speaker 1: mostly from the actual like natural sugars from the fruit.
Speaker 2: Fair enough. And also settle this because I know Mike
Speaker 2: McNaught's listening. We've been yelling at each other at Liquid
Speaker 2: Death on Giant Bomb as well. Manati thinks he keeps
Speaker 2: calling like affliction water ed hardy water stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He thinks it's un ironic the branding. It's it's clearly
Speaker 2: ironic like that. There's interviews with the CEO where's like
Speaker 2: we wanted to come up with a dumb ass name.
Speaker 2: It's just water. We call it death. That's fucking stupid.
Speaker 2: It's self aware, manaate's like, no, it's like ed hardy water.
Speaker 1: No, it's absolutely self aware that the CEO is like
Speaker 1: the There have been studies about how good the branding
Speaker 1: is for it and like how self aware it is.
Speaker 1: They they they nailed it, but no, they're not trying
Speaker 1: to be like they don't think it's cool. Like look
Speaker 1: at the names of them. It's they're all puns.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're clearly supposed to be stupid. Yes, yeah, what
Speaker 2: do you think of that match? I do think Dan
Speaker 2: is probably right.
Speaker 3: Thanks went through my entire part.
Speaker 2: For a time. Do you want to hear one?
Speaker 3: What's the next email?
Speaker 1: Uh? Mary? You want to read this one? Dick Mary?
Speaker 1: Do you want to read this one?
Speaker 3: Very happy to read that email. I was not being
Speaker 3: rude to you, Hi fire Escape. Common pain point for
Speaker 3: the gaming press.
Speaker 1: Is the no no no no, no no one about
Speaker 1: that from the one I had highlighted the secondary.
Speaker 3: You know I can't read hi scrapers skapers.
Speaker 1: Let me sc now. Dan got his sight as a
Speaker 1: scrape we're all scrapers.
Speaker 3: Hi skapers. I also played Ocarina of Time for the
Speaker 3: first time on three DS a few years ago and
Speaker 3: thought it was fantastic. I really saw why it was
Speaker 3: a big deal at the time. It's actually the only
Speaker 3: actual Zelda I've beaten, though I've played parts of other
Speaker 3: handheld titles beforehand, and if anything, I have negative nostalgia
Speaker 3: towards the N sixty four, having never owned one but
Speaker 3: played it occasionally at a friend's house. So opposite question,
Speaker 3: I guess, what's something you hadn't played at the time,
Speaker 3: went back to recently and loved.
Speaker 1: Yeah. This was a response to the Toronto. The subject
Speaker 1: line was Wes is wrong, because Wes had told us
Speaker 1: he finally went back to a Karna and said it
Speaker 1: didn't hold up last episode.
Speaker 3: So this is the opposite one of you didn't like it,
Speaker 3: so you went back to no no, something you didn't
Speaker 3: even play.
Speaker 1: Ogin missed, and then you went back and you loved it.
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, I've mentioned before, like the
Speaker 2: stuff like the PS two era where I was too
Speaker 2: much of an adult to play Kodie games, and like
Speaker 2: stuff that I went back to with like Sly Cooper,
Speaker 2: Ratchet and playing Jack and Daxter. It turns out those
Speaker 2: are all really fucking good games. And then another one
Speaker 2: I didn't play until it came out on Xbox Live
Speaker 2: Arcade years later, was Beyond Good and Evil and like,
Speaker 2: I don't consider it like one of the all time
Speaker 2: greats or anything, but I remember thinking, like, I'm glad
Speaker 2: I finally played this and it does hold up. It's
Speaker 2: I mean, granted this was two thousand and nine when
Speaker 2: it got rereleased, but I remember back then being like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I see why this was well regarded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it holds up perfectly, but I
Speaker 1: absolutely understood the love for Final Fantasy six when I
Speaker 1: finally went back and played it in like two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen or whenever I played it, Like that was
Speaker 1: the first thing I played on this Nest Classic when
Speaker 1: I got it. I get white people like that, and
Speaker 1: I'm not really a Final Fantasy person, but I just
Speaker 1: was really into it at the time and I had
Speaker 1: no intention of playing it. But then I got this
Speaker 1: Nest Classic.
Speaker 3: It was late to the Half Life train. I don't
Speaker 3: think I knew about Half Life, and I mean, it's
Speaker 3: already an old game, but I don't think I played
Speaker 3: it until like two thousand and eleven, twenty twelve, and
Speaker 3: that game came out way earlier than that, and it's.
Speaker 2: The first one. Half Life two O two is four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I played Half Life and so I
Speaker 3: was kind of late to that series and that was
Speaker 3: super worth finding out about later. I didn't really know
Speaker 3: anything about it, but it turns out what a good game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's one that I just I just didn't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also well, Mary, you played all the resid
Speaker 1: Evils long after the fact, most of them long after
Speaker 1: the fact. Not too shabby, they didn't. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember the ones that you said you loved, like right after.
Speaker 1: I think you liked the first couple.
Speaker 3: I loved remake lot. I liked two, and three was
Speaker 3: very stressful.
Speaker 1: But I also three which series Nemesis Residevil. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that three one is pretty well anybody, that's that's the
Speaker 1: game where I'm like, I used to be that person
Speaker 1: who swore that Nemesis was my favorite resident Evil and
Speaker 1: like that it still holds up and everything. And I
Speaker 1: went back watching Mary play it again, and then even
Speaker 1: the remake of that I think was still far inferior. Remake.
Speaker 1: Resuable two remake is so fucking good. Yeah, anyway, Resuble
Speaker 1: three Nemesis, uh Code Veronica played zero zero is also
Speaker 1: worse than I remember. This is zero. This is answering
Speaker 1: last episode's question, like I forgot zero Code Veronica Nemesis.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of Resume five, Resuble five, There
Speaker 1: are a lot of Resumeal games. I went back to
Speaker 1: and realized they weren't as good as I remembered. But
Speaker 1: I love one and two.
Speaker 2: The series is all over the place. And then had
Speaker 2: the fact that they're all remade now too, and those
Speaker 2: all have varying levels of quality.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, crazy of the remakes, they've got a good,
Speaker 1: pretty good track record with remake.
Speaker 3: We got to get back into it, Mike. We still well,
Speaker 3: we still.
Speaker 1: If you're talking the one remake, like oh two, yeah,
Speaker 1: that they're three for four with really good remakes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh shit, we do need to finish that. You're getting there.
Speaker 1: You're at the you're I think you're like that into
Speaker 1: the island. You did the first big fight on the island,
Speaker 1: so you're yeah, two hours in the end.
Speaker 3: We we got to get we got to get that
Speaker 3: thing done.
Speaker 1: We're close, but I don't know, I'm trying to remember
Speaker 1: anything else I went back to. It's like I get
Speaker 1: why people like this.
Speaker 2: I never played Super Metroid until the WE Virtual Console,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, okay, I see why that's good.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's just the tough thing with games is
Speaker 1: that so much of it, Like a game can be
Speaker 1: good for many reasons. But like Corona Trigger I remember
Speaker 1: going back to and I liked it, but so many things,
Speaker 1: like games are really young still and they evolved really rapidly.
Speaker 1: They just don't age.
Speaker 2: Well, did you play the DS one? No, because I
Speaker 2: didn't play it on SNS. But then I reviewed the
Speaker 2: DS one when it came out, like ooh, it'll quit
Speaker 2: your life stuff there.
Speaker 1: I played on like yes three PlayStation Store or something.
Speaker 2: I I like the DS one lot. I thought Crowner
Speaker 2: Trigger is one of the rare like old j RPGs.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I get it, Yeah this is good.
Speaker 1: Oh I got it. Yeah. It was just like it's
Speaker 1: still I don't know, like finding my way through that
Speaker 1: world I didn't always feel like was as intuitive. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, there's a bunch not all games,
Speaker 1: not all all games suck, but it's just like good
Speaker 1: others Ockering of Time is a nice two thousand and
Speaker 1: eleven Vina Tondonia from what I've always said, I know,
Speaker 1: I actually stole that from Dan. Dan, you want to
Speaker 1: read this last one from Arthur? Sure?
Speaker 2: All right, High Fire Escape. A common pain point for
Speaker 2: the gaming press is they have to compare things that
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with one another. Since you're all
Speaker 2: experienced games press people, I thought you could navigate these
Speaker 2: fraught comparisons. Could all three of you say which one
Speaker 2: in each matchup is better than the other. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: go one of the time here, super Mario Brothers three
Speaker 2: versus cheese.
Speaker 3: I mean you kind of have to have cheese.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of these are that one's
Speaker 1: I feel like he geared some of these towards specific people.
Speaker 1: That feels very assaulting. Dan vibes, Oh no, it's the
Speaker 1: first one.
Speaker 3: Cheese.
Speaker 2: If it was Mario World versus cheese, I might go
Speaker 2: with Mario World. I love Mario Brothers Three, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with cheese, right, So that's unanimous?
Speaker 1: Yeah, cheese?
Speaker 2: Okay. Next to the ability to breathe through your nose
Speaker 2: versus the ability to save your progress in video games,
Speaker 2: including we not limited to auto saves and cloud saves.
Speaker 2: I will say definitively, I prefer the ability to breathe
Speaker 2: through my nose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's keep mind. Rather, this is what is better.
Speaker 2: It is the ability to breathe through your nose. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't know until they take it away. And holy shit, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm going.
Speaker 1: With that, unless maybe it isn't what you rather now,
Speaker 1: Like the next one feels like it's geared toward me.
Speaker 2: Sorry, wait, so okay, I guess I guess it's kind
Speaker 2: of both, right, I mean.
Speaker 1: If you had to like eliminate the other one. That's
Speaker 1: not how he said, though, he said, could you say
Speaker 1: which of the three? Which of the ones in the
Speaker 1: matchup below are better?
Speaker 3: But you can look at them the same way, which
Speaker 3: is like which one would you be more willing to
Speaker 3: live without? And it's like I gotta have cheese and
Speaker 3: I gotta be able to breathe through my nose. I
Speaker 3: just need those for quality of life, because even if
Speaker 3: I'm playing a game and I'm like, what a great
Speaker 3: game and I could save, if I can't fucking breathe,
Speaker 3: my life sucks.
Speaker 1: Like which pick one and the other it's gone. He
Speaker 1: is out of the world eight hundred times.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: No, no, okay, I guess at this point.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you take it away now yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Sure yeah, breathe your nose, I guess. But then every
Speaker 1: game we play from here on out, you can't.
Speaker 2: That's gonna suck.
Speaker 1: But hey, you know putting but not limited to Okay,
Speaker 1: get good?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Mary, where you also knows? Oh yes,
Speaker 2: I have Okay, so we've been unanimous the whole time here. Okay,
Speaker 2: Alex Garland's filmography versus being Warm, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 2: being Warm. I love Alex Garland, but like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like Dev's was. Okay, let me look up it. Like
Speaker 2: there was that Men movie. Okay, there's a movie that
Speaker 2: people didn't like. I haven't seen twenty eight whatever later.
Speaker 1: I've seen twenty eight days later.
Speaker 2: I have not later.
Speaker 1: Is fucking He.
Speaker 2: Didn't exactly stuff he wrote it.
Speaker 1: He wrote that in Sunshine, and then he directed Annihilation,
Speaker 1: Amen Civil War recently fantastic. He uh, he wrote that.
Speaker 2: I believe I don't think he directed count Okay, wow, okay, anyway,
Speaker 2: you gotta be warm. Yes, yeah, it's warm.
Speaker 1: I love his movies. But uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow like being warm halfway and we're unanimous dogs
Speaker 2: versus having thumbs. It's ironic because dogs don't have thumbs.
Speaker 3: I know I don't thumbs.
Speaker 2: I can we get like medical intervention to get like
Speaker 2: a robot thumber.
Speaker 3: You get a little metal boy on the end of it.
Speaker 2: You don't do that, and my insurance covers it. I'm
Speaker 2: going with I'm keeping dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have robotic dogs.
Speaker 2: No, it's not the same, not the same.
Speaker 1: How is it different than if you're replacing a thumb
Speaker 1: with a press.
Speaker 3: Because you can just do this, but you can't.
Speaker 2: There's gizmos out there.
Speaker 3: No, they're not psycho.
Speaker 1: I think they're I think your underestimate your ability to
Speaker 1: gettesched to a robot.
Speaker 2: Well, even if that's true, like an actual, warm, fuzzy,
Speaker 2: living dog, that's that's the best thing out there, right.
Speaker 1: I think we'll replicate dogs pretty soon.
Speaker 2: I'm just being how fucking weird dogs are? Dogs are
Speaker 2: extremely weird.
Speaker 1: Cats. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Throw them out.
Speaker 1: I would take dogs. Yeah, I'll go out the window
Speaker 1: your cats. You're gonna you just threaten to throw my
Speaker 1: cats out the window. Yeah, Mary, I will beat your
Speaker 1: fucking skull until it's a pulp under my foot. If
Speaker 1: you ever say that again, I swear to God this
Speaker 1: is not a fake threat. I will fucking end you.
Speaker 1: And then I will stare Seem on the face and
Speaker 1: say she's never coming back.
Speaker 3: He doesn't exist. He's a robot. Because you went with thumbs,
Speaker 3: you piece of shit.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't go with thumbs. I love dogs too,
Speaker 1: if we have If.
Speaker 3: We have thumbs and no dogs, I'm coming for your cats.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: If I can't have my dog, you can't have your cat.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Sorry, is my thumb to squeeze out?
Speaker 2: Zeus?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I went from zero to eleven real quick there.
Speaker 2: That was the most explicit death threat yet. And that's
Speaker 2: saying something.
Speaker 1: I see what happened. If I were to eliminate dogs,
Speaker 1: you would come to my cats. I see. No, I
Speaker 1: don't want to liminate dogs. I was just like playing
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate. I love dogs. We're close to getting one,
Speaker 1: but like, oh, sorry, I got a cool down for
Speaker 1: a second, you're going to pass out? No, I agree,
Speaker 1: I can.
Speaker 2: I want I want to keep dogs we're nanimous.
Speaker 1: What do you know?
Speaker 3: The next one?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Blood?
Speaker 2: Any notes? I have both of them rated as five
Speaker 2: out of five on letterbox, and I'm very picky with
Speaker 2: my five out of five's on letterbox. It's mcgroeber. I
Speaker 2: love there will be Blood. That's one of the best
Speaker 2: new I've ever seen. I've seen there will be Blood
Speaker 2: once or twice. I have seen Macgoober over fifty times.
Speaker 1: So this is where this This is where, like the
Speaker 1: the other one gets eliminated. Format doesn't really work because
Speaker 1: movies are like I think it's easier to give up
Speaker 1: there will be blood because you've already seen enough times.
Speaker 1: Groover is more watchable.
Speaker 3: You don't need to see there will be blood again.
Speaker 2: No I need.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. I'm gonna make it up.
Speaker 1: I think slightly more difficult. Imagine you've never seen either.
Speaker 2: It's still magroo. Yeah, but how would you know because
Speaker 2: it's I had a ankling.
Speaker 1: I love Macgoober a lot. But if if I'm just
Speaker 1: answering his question, I still think there will blood is better.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's apples and orages. That's why he did
Speaker 1: I know, But I still think if I had to
Speaker 1: pick one, I would still pick there will be blood.
Speaker 2: I mean it's weird to say mcgoober brought me more
Speaker 2: joy because I don't think joy is the point that
Speaker 2: there will be blood at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what. That's the point of that talking.
Speaker 2: Cinema like mastery. It's pretty obvious what the answer is here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we're talking. There's something that has enriched my life
Speaker 2: so much for so long.
Speaker 1: We don't watch there will be blood and hotel rooms
Speaker 1: during conferences.
Speaker 2: It's true. I made marry to that in a hotel
Speaker 2: during a conference a couple months ago.
Speaker 1: We did that at GDC or whatever it was, p
Speaker 1: s X or something back.
Speaker 2: We've done as many times.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, here's a different one. Mcgroober or eyebrows mcgroo.
Speaker 2: I buy a sharpie.
Speaker 1: It's fine, I like it, bushy, I have my eyebrows.
Speaker 1: I don't lend you some eyebrow hair.
Speaker 2: Why do you need them to keep? Give him a
Speaker 2: water out of your eyes?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Is that what that is?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: Looking cool for double unpundra, for being for being surprised.
Speaker 2: I don't think when we evolved eyebrows were like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's for facial expressions or God, I mean they were.
Speaker 1: Making facial expressions before they were speaking.
Speaker 2: But it was a survival thing. I think it's keeping
Speaker 2: the rain out of your eyes when a saber two
Speaker 2: tigers coming after.
Speaker 1: Your ass like pubes, or to keep your your bits warm,
Speaker 1: you get the right temperature to reproduce.
Speaker 2: Oh is that it really?
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm not a evolutionary palaeontologist or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them, but uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: believe like you know how, Okay, you know how when
Speaker 1: it's cold, your balls shrink up and go closer you
Speaker 1: to body. Yes, it's because your testicles and the bit
Speaker 1: the stuff they're in needs to stay warm, so it
Speaker 1: goes close to your body.
Speaker 2: Tust them in their man bodies are fucking nuts? Why
Speaker 2: do they put them out there? And it was it
Speaker 2: just too hot in there to be in there all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Well, you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: put it in something else if it was in your body.
Speaker 2: Why are our balls outside of our bodies? Is what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Is just too warm in there?
Speaker 3: Ask well, the sphere inside of us doesn't want to.
Speaker 2: Have the orb merritt.
Speaker 1: It's called the orb. You're just sounding ridiculous.
Speaker 2: N't the balls just be in the ORB? I want
Speaker 2: all when I say organs, I want all organs to
Speaker 2: be in the ORB, including balls.
Speaker 1: You've got your dead just floating around inside you.
Speaker 2: I want my balls to be in my orb.
Speaker 1: I hate this stuff that you're saying so much more
Speaker 1: in this episode because you're looking at me right in
Speaker 1: the eye.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I want my balls to be
Speaker 2: in my orb. Do you hear me?
Speaker 1: Are they floating or they packed in there? Like? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're not separate. They're not separate in
Speaker 2: the ORB system for human organs, it is. It's just
Speaker 2: the ORB. It's not like, oh, we crammed and intestine
Speaker 2: in there. Oh, here's a lung. Okay, it's just the
Speaker 2: ORB does all.
Speaker 1: Here's where here's where the evolutionary benefits of the ORB
Speaker 1: falls short, because how would you use an ORB that's
Speaker 1: just inside you. That's one big thing to reproduce with
Speaker 1: another human.
Speaker 2: You're you still have a dick. Okay, but balls, the
Speaker 2: balls are in the ORB. Don't get shot because if
Speaker 2: you get shot in the ORB, you're super fucked.
Speaker 1: It kills everything that all your organs.
Speaker 2: Got a shot and punctured. If they hit the orbits,
Speaker 2: it's a tective.
Speaker 1: Of the orb. It's almost like the human body benefits
Speaker 1: specifically from having a separated or.
Speaker 2: It's so complicated in there. You gotta go to all
Speaker 2: these different doctors. There's you gotta pancreas, you gotta have
Speaker 2: fucking gallbladder.
Speaker 3: Or doctors out there.
Speaker 1: There will be in this new future Dan, Dan with
Speaker 1: the ORB would be able to walk into a guy
Speaker 1: to college's office and be like, I have problems with
Speaker 1: my orb.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you know how it works, because you know how.
Speaker 2: It's removal. It's removal. You open up the chest, take
Speaker 2: the orb out, They knock you out, they do all
Speaker 2: whatever on the orbit. You're just you're you're in a
Speaker 2: tube somewhere in the chest.
Speaker 3: But it could absolutely be in your butt.
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm picturing the orb is huge because I'm picturing
Speaker 2: the mass of all the organ which is the same size.
Speaker 2: So like, it's not like a little baseball. Put my ass.
Speaker 1: Necesarously put it. Put a baseball in Dan's ask.
Speaker 3: Doctor do it.
Speaker 2: I'm sick. Doctors put it in there.
Speaker 1: Go to a proctologist to have stuff put in you no, let's.
Speaker 2: Not be ridiculous. I think the ORB would have to
Speaker 2: be the size of all the organs put together, like
Speaker 2: in brain to brain and what's organs?
Speaker 1: Okay, you're just describing like if you or your body
Speaker 1: was Mike Wazowski from Monsters, Inc. It would all be
Speaker 1: just the ORB and then a few limbs coming out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: You need the limbs because they do they walk and
Speaker 2: grab and stuff. And the heads if you just look
Speaker 2: all freaky if you didn't have a head. So we
Speaker 2: keep all that from the outside. Nothing's different if your
Speaker 2: brain is in the ORB, though, it's as aesthetics and
Speaker 2: also well seeing.
Speaker 1: Are there tubes connected from the ORB to your eye?
Speaker 1: How's your eye? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we'rell don't be ridiculous, like you still got
Speaker 2: you got a tongue, you got eyes. You know, it's
Speaker 2: like that's all that's all connected to the ORB.
Speaker 1: Because it's not okay, because yeah, I guess that makes.
Speaker 2: They're up there. Eardrums are up there. Actually, if we
Speaker 2: tuck the ear drums into the ORB, then we don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about them being punctured. We just got
Speaker 2: to make sure you can hear through the ears.
Speaker 1: I have a little a little wrinkle. I just thought
Speaker 1: of huh, so the eye tight. The tongue makes sense
Speaker 1: to not be in the orb because it's not an organ.
Speaker 1: It's a muscle, right, knows, ears, cartilage, sciences, whatever.
Speaker 2: I think, face is pretty much you know what our.
Speaker 1: Biggest organ is is our skin. So where would the
Speaker 1: skin be? Skin?
Speaker 2: You're being ridiculous, Mike. The skin from the outside everything
Speaker 2: looks the same functionally inside, all organ functions are managed
Speaker 2: by the orb.
Speaker 1: What is the definition of an organ? Because now I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: are my eyes an organ?
Speaker 2: Probably? But again, look there are exceptions. The face stays
Speaker 2: pretty much.
Speaker 1: The eyes organs, Yes, the eyes are sensory. Organs are
Speaker 1: the visual system. But why what defines an organ is
Speaker 1: something that could like performs it.
Speaker 2: It's just in your body that does a thing.
Speaker 1: An organ is a collection of tissues that work together
Speaker 1: to form a specific function. So wouldn't got it.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking too much about the human body because I
Speaker 2: have one in in one right now?
Speaker 1: Is the tongue an organ? The tongue is a muscular organ. Okay,
Speaker 1: I stand corrected, it.
Speaker 3: Is both, but it could have like a long stick
Speaker 3: going into the orb.
Speaker 1: It's like a lung.
Speaker 2: It's like a ker like you know, Frank is down there.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep in mind, like if you look at
Speaker 1: an actual cross station of the orb, it actually looks
Speaker 1: more like a Catamari ball of organs and like stuff
Speaker 1: jetting out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, could you guys dissect al pellets in science class
Speaker 2: and frogs? Okay? I think I was telling Bunk about
Speaker 2: this and she didn't know about the alpellet thing, and
Speaker 2: she's like, what is it? And I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what was the alpellet?
Speaker 3: It was a way to reconstruct an animal through bones
Speaker 3: because owls it was poop eat mice, and an owl
Speaker 3: pellet is poop.
Speaker 1: No, that was owl excrement.
Speaker 3: Excrement okay, because it's very dry, and then when you
Speaker 3: broke it apart, you get all the bones and you
Speaker 3: could put together a mouse.
Speaker 1: But how do they know that the droppings they picked up?
Speaker 1: Would they like inspect them first and then say, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a dead mouse.
Speaker 3: And it's just like natural that the owls diet is
Speaker 3: like ninety percent mice. And what's interesting is like sometimes
Speaker 3: someone would get two like skulls, and somebody else would
Speaker 3: get like no, uh, like leg bones and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: can I have like one of your skulls And I'll
Speaker 3: give you one of my leg bones. Because it all
Speaker 3: evened out in the end.
Speaker 2: You put the poop through like an airport metal detectors
Speaker 2: or like the body scan thing, just to make sure
Speaker 2: there's a whole skeleton in there. Yeah, that's the mouse. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The next Alex Garland movie is going to be about
Speaker 1: a guy, a kid who's dissecting owl pellets and then
Speaker 1: puts the skeleton together and it's just a mini version
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wow, I think that's tiny eye shrunk.
Speaker 3: And then he looks out the window and there's an
Speaker 3: owl dun dun dum.
Speaker 1: And then he and then he dissects the stomach of
Speaker 1: many him and there's many his father.
Speaker 3: I think the title of this dome would be who oh.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good.
Speaker 1: And actually I can hear the soundtrack too that starts
Speaker 1: it off. It's like very ethereal, it's like and then
Speaker 1: Oscar Isaac leading from the mouth, is rushed to the
Speaker 1: hospital and then Natalie Portman discovers that her husband's dead.
Speaker 2: And then you're just describing a different movie.
Speaker 1: The shimmery Dome is over southern Florida the swamp, and
Speaker 1: then Jennifer Jason Lee says, we don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but we're going in. And then Tessa Thompson's there, and
Speaker 1: then Gina Rodriguez is there, and then there's a crocodile,
Speaker 1: and then there's a bear that eats screams.
Speaker 3: And then an orb Man.
Speaker 2: You're making me want to watch that again.
Speaker 1: That's a cool and watch it the other night. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I keep trying to get a man to watch it.
Speaker 1: But then she's like, all right, show me the trailer again,
Speaker 1: and she does not like horror.
Speaker 2: It's a type of horror.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the scene they find from Oscar Isaac
Speaker 1: squad that can fuck with peoples all like they go
Speaker 1: crazy together. They go crazy together, and they all agree
Speaker 1: to cut open his stomach. Then they see the stuff
Speaker 1: moving in it. Yeah, and they look back at the camera.
Speaker 1: They're like, see, it's just orb man.
Speaker 2: The movie's fucking cool.
Speaker 1: I know, I love it. Tessa Thompson just becomes a
Speaker 1: bush yeah yeah, and uh Netlie Portman almost bangs herself
Speaker 1: at the end.
Speaker 2: And you don't just describing this if you hadn't seen
Speaker 2: the movies. What the is this movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good. It's the best movie ever made.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, cheese, cheese.
Speaker 1: I'd still the.
Speaker 3: Cheese mcgruber or both of your pinky fingers.
Speaker 2: If if I say, okay, well you can get by
Speaker 2: without pinkies, right, I'm doing. Look, I love its parriage.
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going fingers wow. But in this scenario,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's like it's not that I never saw mcgroober,
Speaker 2: it's that just like I'm done seeing it, it doesn't
Speaker 2: exist anymore.
Speaker 3: And like fifteen minutes ago, no no, no.
Speaker 1: No, Dan, here's here's here's here's the thing. Would you
Speaker 1: want to continue having pinkies? However, you have to erase
Speaker 1: all memory of mcgroober from your head ever having seen it.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't know what I was missing. But
Speaker 2: that is a sad thing to think about. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you know that there's a there's a void, there's.
Speaker 1: A basic premise of the movie, and you know that
Speaker 1: it was like a central aspect you life, but it
Speaker 1: just doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: It'd be sad, But I think I do need all
Speaker 2: my fingers.
Speaker 1: I think I'm just describing like the death of a
Speaker 1: loved one is orb.
Speaker 2: There's no way ORB is a desirable thing.
Speaker 1: It's indifferent.
Speaker 2: We want the orb.
Speaker 3: We do not want the orb. You want the orb.
Speaker 2: It simplifies things.
Speaker 3: It does it makes you more killable.
Speaker 2: It does do that. Okay, how about this, how about this,
Speaker 2: here's a bonus for it.
Speaker 3: Like a paper cut in the ORB could take you out.
Speaker 2: Mary. Let me tell you on this. The orb is
Speaker 2: bullet and stab proof.
Speaker 3: What kind of ethereal sack is this? This doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't know the science behind it.
Speaker 2: I'm not an ORB doctor. We've got plenty of those.
Speaker 2: Now you cannot because they can't puncture it. It's got
Speaker 2: to laugh. It's like, you know, like the luggage that
Speaker 2: has the t S lock on it. It's got bad.
Speaker 1: But doctors from outer wilds, like, yeah, what if they
Speaker 1: have to drain your the part of no Floods.
Speaker 2: Dead, doctors have the tsa code for your orb.
Speaker 1: Okay, watching in the.
Speaker 3: Last one of my favorites, what number was this? One?
Speaker 1: Eight six eighty six? This episode if you know Jay
Speaker 1: cut the part where I like violently threatened Mary. We'll
Speaker 1: get rid of that cut that No.
Speaker 2: That's our social that's our social clip, and don't give
Speaker 2: any context.
Speaker 1: I thought Mary was just out of nowhere threatening to
Speaker 1: throw one of my cats out the window, to which
Speaker 1: I usually respond pretty violently. And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I see you're saying if I got rid of dogs.
Speaker 2: She was answering the question we were asking.
Speaker 1: I would just took it as a random act of
Speaker 1: like three, why did you what you say? I really
Speaker 1: went into merry mode against a Jersey mom there for
Speaker 1: a second. Is that what you feel like?
Speaker 3: Every time that happens, every once in a while, you
Speaker 3: just kind of want to kill them.
Speaker 1: One of my casts right here, she's licking her ass.
Speaker 3: Right now, she's she's fine, get that or honey.
Speaker 1: Is the butthole? And organ?
Speaker 2: Google is the anus?
Speaker 1: Is the anus? Thank you? Is the in organ? Yes? Wow?
Speaker 1: Oh it's considered part of the digestives.
Speaker 2: Is it part of the rectum?
Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 1: I think we forgot to turn that sale off. It's
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Speaker 3: I think automatically summer.
Speaker 1: Oh never mind, No, if you automatically, okays.
Speaker 3: It is still summer, but the.
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Speaker 1: can just treat it as a tip jar if you want,
Speaker 1: or like I said, unlock those other two versions. I
Speaker 1: know we want to do some sort of bonus episode soon.
Speaker 2: Yes we do.
Speaker 1: It's been a while we were I was gonna say
Speaker 1: we're sort of done traveling for a bit, but Dan,
Speaker 1: we're traveling soon. Yeah, but we got a little bit
Speaker 1: of a gap, so try Uh, Dan, what do you
Speaker 1: have going on.
Speaker 2: Dot com? Check it out. Plenty of fun stuff going
Speaker 2: on Blake Club, my favorite thing we're doing over there.
Speaker 2: Check it out. Got Jeff Grubb playing Diakatana having a
Speaker 2: great time with it, So check that out on the YouTube, Mary,
Speaker 2: what about you?
Speaker 3: Twitch stuff usually streaming on Mondays on twitch dot tv
Speaker 3: slash Mary Kish come join.
Speaker 2: Me, sweet, what about you?
Speaker 1: Uh? Nothing like public facing playing games, but it's all
Speaker 1: for for day job stuff. Now, trying to think what
Speaker 1: I have coming up social life. I honestly have a
Speaker 1: fairly relaxed August, which is nice. It is the first
Speaker 1: month where I don't think I have knock on wood,
Speaker 1: any major plans outside of New York.
Speaker 2: Ooh, if you're I should hang out with you in October.
Speaker 2: I'll be on the East Coast, so we should talk
Speaker 2: about that October.
Speaker 1: I'm like barely you h But if I'm here, yes absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm like away for a night in Texas in August,
Speaker 1: but that's it, like one night. But no October we
Speaker 1: have a wedding and then we're going to Hawaii for
Speaker 1: another wedding. And it's also our anniversary. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have back to back weddings in October, so yeah,
Speaker 2: look at us.
Speaker 1: One in New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one's in New York. One of them's in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you'll be here twice or is it all
Speaker 1: one trip?
Speaker 2: One trip?
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, I'm sure I'll overlap at some point because
Speaker 1: it's like it's October nineteenth onward.
Speaker 2: Will be busy, well, chatd be good to see you sweet.
Speaker 1: All right, that's our episode. Thanks for joining everybody. We'll
Speaker 1: be back in a couple of weeks, deeper into August.
Speaker 1: Hopefully i'll cool off by then. Hopefully I'll have played
Speaker 1: more games by then than I could talk about, not
Speaker 1: just Diablo. It's been fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a list I love. Every time I
Speaker 2: leave this podcast, I have a list of games to
Speaker 2: check out, and I get lost in fanta Land at
Speaker 2: day and hinter p Dungeons of Hinterberg looking at me.
Speaker 2: So that sounds fun.
Speaker 3: Panta Land.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll see everybody in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Thank you, b