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are you doing today? John?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. How about yourself?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic. I love the book that's sitting right behind you.

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You're gonna have to tell me that. I realize listeners can't,

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but that's what I love about radio. It's theater of

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the mind. And that book that's right behind you, passion

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struck that You're gonna have to explain that one to

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me because there's something that's going on in the center

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of that book cover that's got my attention. What is that?

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Speaker 2: That is a flame?

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Speaker 1: I thought? So where there's flame, there's energy, there's power,

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there's purpose. What's going on there? Buddy?

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Speaker 2: Do you pronounce it? Arrow?

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Speaker 1: You got that right? Man, you pass you got two

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extra hundred dollars from monopoly here. Congratulations. You know that's

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one thing. That's one thing you learned about radio.

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Speaker 2: Sure my name all the time?

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Speaker 1: Oh in what way?

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Speaker 2: H well Mills milaise yes, yes, all kinds of mispronunciations. Yeah,

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Johnny yoh? Is that the is that the pet peeve

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right there? When somebody goes, hey, Johnny, what's up? And

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you're going, I'm not sure it's Johnny. That's not just

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not what it was? So late lean out the groundwork

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of a book? What what is the process that that

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you moved through? Because a book is like a movie.

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It doesn't just happen, It comes to you in pieces parts. Well,

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do you want to talk about Passion Struck or do

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you want to talk about you Matter Aluma the children's book?

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Because theses were both very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely want to talk about both, because that

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is I was going to talk about that, the two

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different personalities that are required here and how did you

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have to shift that engine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I had always thought I could be a writer,

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but most of my career I was a business executive,

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and so what I was practicing it wasn't really creative writing.

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It was more writing for boardrooms or project updates or

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business cases. So one of the hardest things for me

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was was to change my writing style so that it

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would really be as if as I'm writing, I'm trying

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to speak to the person who's sitting next to me

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in the car, which I think is really a profound way,

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especially if you're working on a nonfiction book or a

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children's book, to do it, because you're opening the reader

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into your world and you're also opening yourself into theirs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but even when you're writing a children's book, do

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you not also have to keep the parent in mind,

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because if you can keep them engaged, I'll be inside

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that room reading that book to that child anytime, any night.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, absolutely. For the children's book, it was difficult

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on two fronts. One, because you're absolutely right, the main

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audience who's actually buying the book is parents, it's not

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the kids, So that's the person you have to appeal

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to if they're going to buy it. But I was

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also trying to bring in developmental psychology, behavioral science, and

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neuroscience into a children's book in a way that it

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would both be understood by the child in a way

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that they don't even realize it, but also in a

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way that an adult would pick up these concepts and

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see themselves in them and make them a better parent,

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better partner, better friend.

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Speaker 1: Well see, I call that speaking the street. You understand

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who's going to receive this, and so you've got to

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put it in the language to which they understand. That's

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a skill to be holding onto.

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Speaker 2: John Well, it definitely is, and it's one that has

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taken a lot of work to try to develop. I

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Speaker 1: When you put a book like this together, I mean

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it's you know, it's one of the things that I

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learned about you Matter Luma is that building habit formations,

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you know, learning how to be positive and to stay positive.

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lot of people, and a book like this really does

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open up that door for someone to say today, my

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choice is to be a little bit more positive than yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we all need a little more positivity

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in our lives. But you've got to do it in

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a way that feels real, right, because if not, people

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aren't really gonna find it authentic. So I think it's

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a cross between having a positive effect, but also making

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it real for the participants. So in this children's book,

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one of the scenes that ended up adding was one

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that has actually made some young readers cry. I created

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a storm scene. The main character in the book, Luma,

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little Bunny, finally kind of finds her superpower, and all

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of a sudden, a storm arises in her life, just

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like the storms that arise in any of our lives,

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and it makes her question herself and her own self worth.

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books that I read for kids don't really do that.

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faced so many challenges in my life, and I think

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early is that they are going to find themselves at

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some point in their life dealing with a struggle. And

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so I think when they see another person who's able

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to navigate it, they experience it themselves as a mirror,

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and it helps them process that they could do it

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someday as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: The one way that I really related with Luma was

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the fact that we raised one hundred and twenty five

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rabbits up in Montana, and those rabbits didn't have special

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house or anything. They had rabbit huts. So when you

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talk about the challenges that Luma goes through, it really

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made me think about I've never lived through a rabbits

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set of pause. In other words, I didn't know what

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they were going through out there. I just knew that

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they built their nest, they had their families, and life

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moved on. But you give me that opportunity to it's

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not about us learn to live and love all living

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things and learn to love their story that goes with it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, just last night, and I'm here in Florida, so

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you don't think it's very cold, but we hit the

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thirties and we have a ton of rabbits in our neighborhood.

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under the ground to keep them warm. So I've woken

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up the past couple of days to find holes unfortunately

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my backyard. But it does teach you that all living

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things need community, need need safety, and need to feel loved.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, now do you take the book You Matter

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Luma to another level in the way of creating educational

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digest you know, like we used to have the Think

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and Do book when I was in school would we

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would have a story that we would read, then we

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would go to the book and we would answer questions

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to you know, to activate what the message was in

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each one of these books. Because your book is built

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with so many different areas where activation can actually happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have built a number of things, and I'm

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glad you asked me that. So there's a parent and

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teacher guide that goes seen by scene. Yeah, it goes

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scene by scene and it kind of explores in more

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depth in case they're missing it what's going on in

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a different scene. But outside of that, I provide two

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to three activities that a teacher or a parent can

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do beyond the scene that's in the book to reinforce

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what we're teaching. And then at the end of the book,

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I didn't want this to be a story that ended.

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I wanted it to be a beginning. Yeah, so I

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did two things. First, I created a whole page, which

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is really an opportunity for the parent to ask their

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child a series of three or four questions so that

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they could start shifting the conversation from doing from being

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about performance to being you know, things like what makes

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you light up inside? How have you helped someone else

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in your life feel like they matter in children's like terms.

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you learn a lesson the most when you get to

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put it into place in your own life. And I

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happen to hear about this school in Grand Juncture, Brand Junction,

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Colorado that needed new playground equipment, and so they did

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this kindness challenge in the school ended up raising thousands

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of dollars, but more importantly, they created twenty five hundred

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kindness moments. And so I said, if one school can

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do something like that, what could lots of kids who

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read this book do? And so we created something called

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Pass the Ripple. You can go to it at Passthripple

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dot com. And we're actually now partnering with that school

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in Colorado to build this out so that kids can

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log an active kindness, and we have a global mapping

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technology built out so they can see how far their

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kindness travels throughout the world and how many people at

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impacts beyond the one person that they helped, maybe Baker

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Cake or Carrie Groceries in for their neighbor, or help

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a sad friend.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with John R. Miles

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coming up next. Hey, we want to welcome you back

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to podcaster as well as author John R. Miles. Don't

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you love it when the thought of an author one thought.

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We don't know what went into that thought, what was

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required for that thought to happen? That one thought can

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change multiple lives beyond that thought and that page, and

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it starts with the author.

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Speaker 2: Well, what I call this the mattering effect. So it's

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one thing to it's like one thing to feel like

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you matter. But the ripple effect really starts happening when

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you make other people feel like they hold value and

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you do kind things for others. And that's the principle.

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I was trying to really not only show the kids,

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but show the adults because I think if you look

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at the way so many of us are living, we're

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not really practicing moral beauty in our lives, are we?

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And the interesting thing about it is science really shows

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that when you perform acts of kindness, that's when you

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feel the most awe in your life. So wouldn't more

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of us want to experience on an everyday basis.

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Speaker 1: With you being down there in Florida, we're up here

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in Carolina. Are you going to do a book tour.

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Are we going to see you up here at the

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Park Road Shopping Center bookstore and any other one of

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the small, privately owned stores.

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Speaker 2: Man, I would love to. I think the best thing

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to do would be requested. I was recently in Austin

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for this. I'm heading out to Colorado, going to Puerto Rico.

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I'm here soon and up to Tallahassee, which is four

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or five hours north of me here in Florida. So,

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and I was in Winston Salem talking about Passion Struck

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a few months ago. So I used to live in Charlotte.

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So love getting back up to Carolina area.

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Speaker 1: Wow. What part of Charlotte did you live in?

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Speaker 2: I was an executive at Low's. So I wear you

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well you're not. Okay, then you're gonna understand

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where I am right now. We are currently camping at

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Lake Norman State Park.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes I lived. I lived right down Raleigh

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School Road, so I know the area. Well.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know your backyard all too.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Man, that traffic it's in there. Holy no wonder you

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found time to write. It's like, okay, I'm just stuck

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in traffic. I'm just gonna sit here and write a book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for people not familiar with that lake. Sometimes on weekends,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so true. Because when we were

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we always do, we're the white Caps. What did the

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white Caps look like on the lake? Because that's going

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to determine what they see. And it's the same thing

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as a book. You see the white Caps, but you

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don't know the story until you get into the action.

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Speaker 2: That's so true. I remember when we first moved there,

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I had like a nineteen foot se ray and I

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went out on it maybe two times. I'm like, boy,

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twenty four foot boat. So we had upgrade.

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Speaker 1: Were you ever inspired to write stories while out here

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on Lake White and Lake Norman not Lake Wiley with

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the end again, you know Lake Wiley is so close.

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Maybe you did run away to lake.

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Speaker 2: I've been on Lake Wiley too, have some friends who

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have boats down there. I had I have always wanted

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to write a book about my experience. When I was

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at the Naval Academy, I was on the Brigade Honor Staff,

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one of the six primary members during the time that

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the Brigade had its largest cheating scandal, and I've always

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thought about writing a book about that, and so back

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during those days in North Carolina, I was pondering writing

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that story, and I still ponder it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you got to do it, man, because you can

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turn that thing into like a six year series when

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it comes to binge watching on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Well, man, this story has it all. It's got people

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blowing up in cars, people disappearing, and CIS agents, corrupt admirals,

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So it has a lot of hooks in it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Where can people go to find out more about you?

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Because obviously you're writing in so many different directions, but

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you're giving You're giving people that opportunity to find their

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own voice within your paragraphs.

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Speaker 2: Well ero, if they want to learn about the children's book,

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they can go to you Matter Luma l u m

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a dot com. If they want to learn more about

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the challenge that we're doing, it's at passthar Ripple dot com.

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They want to learn more about me, they can go

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to John Rmiles dot com, and I have a great

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substack if they're interested in getting weekly doses of inspiration

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at the ignitedlife dot net.

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Speaker 1: Did you get this this book for the library that's

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in uptown Charlotte, the Children's library that's right up there

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on Seventh Street, Because I mean that that is one

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of the greatest places. When when I go walking in

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there and I go into the children's section, I i

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see the authors that I've shared conversations with. You need

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to be in there with these books, and it's imagine

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an I would imagine it's such a great place for

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this book.

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Speaker 2: I would you know, I would love to do that.

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I sent a book out to a friend of mine

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who's a professor at the University of Rochester, and his

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niece is actually a librarian in a library in New

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York City, and she loved it and thought it could

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have such a big impact. So I'm going to have

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to look up this library.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine. And what I love about them, John, is

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the fact that they have their story reading time for

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all age groups, and then they turn it into things

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where they can activate the story and get them on

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little scavenger hunts afterwards and stuff, So it's not just

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sitting there reading the book. They actually get those kids

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involved into the lessons that were learned inside that story.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's so cool about this is I've

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actually partnered with a division a Kaplan, the education company, Yes,

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and we have developed a six six episode learning discovery

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series where they've taken the characters and they've made them

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like Pixar like animated and it shows a core value

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that's lived through a short two to three minute video

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with each one of these animals. And so again we're

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implementing this first in that school in Colorado, but the

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idea is that this could be used in programs like

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Imagine on or in schools, or in after school programs,

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or even in Boy Scouts, Cub Scouts, Girl Scouts, church

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programs throughout the country.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well, you've got to come back to this show

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anytime in the future. Maybe we should do some camping

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up here at Lake Norman State Park. Dude, I mean,

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we just found out there was a huge fire here

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in twenty twenty and to walk through that, what they

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must have gone through, that's walking through history and learning

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for the presence of right now.

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Speaker 2: Man, Well, I love camping and I love Lake Norman.

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There's a great there's a great campsite down here as well.

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That's right on the golf and it's part of Fort

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DeSoto State Park and you can camp right on right

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on the inner coastal and they have about eight boat

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ramps there, so it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Well, you be brilliant today, and thank

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you so much for taking the time to spend a

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moment with us about your writing and exploration so that

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other writers can be inspired to grow their own stories.

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Speaker 2: Ero, thank you so much for having me real honor

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to be on your show.

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Speaker 1: You'd be brilliant today, Okay, sir, thank you you too,