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<v Speaker 1>Oh bead of Thattar, Hello, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Night.

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<v Speaker 2>And today.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was brought to my attention that we

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<v Speaker 1>go over so many conspiracies we do, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are more obscure, some of them are more widely

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, relatively well known within the conspiracy community. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have a lot of new listeners, We

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of people who are relatively new to

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<v Speaker 1>the conspiratorial mindset, if you will, the Truther movement, as

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<v Speaker 1>we say, because it's not conspiracy. So many of them

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<v Speaker 1>have been confirmed. So you know, I figured on this

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<v Speaker 1>episode we could take a step back and look at

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<v Speaker 1>one of the oldest and most well known conspiracies that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people know about but don't actually know

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<v Speaker 1>much about, and that would be Freemasonry. And we're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to tie in some Illuminati connections here. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to tie in some esotericism connections here. Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>big key players here before we begin, Raven Lee. You

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<v Speaker 1>know the Masons exist. You see their iconography, you see

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<v Speaker 1>the bumper stickers, you see old white dudes of the

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<v Speaker 1>fat ring on and they got the square encompass on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I always see them.

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<v Speaker 3>I started seeing them at the parades at the Mardi

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<v Speaker 3>Gras festivals. Yeah, so that's where I was like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what are these And they're at some of them,

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<v Speaker 3>they're really prominent, and the shit they have like fifty

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<v Speaker 3>floats and some of them, so it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>A whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're thinking of with the parades would be

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<v Speaker 1>the Shriners, which these dudes wear like a red fez

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a little, yeah, a logo on it

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<v Speaker 1>with usually an Arab looking name and a scimitar, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're always around parades. They got these little little doom

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<v Speaker 1>buggy looking carts that they ride around all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you probably have heard of like the Shriner's

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<v Speaker 1>Charity Hospital. That's a big thing that we see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of, Like they're really tied in with charity hospitals

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<v Speaker 1>for kids and a lot of freemasonry. Does go back

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<v Speaker 1>to insane amounts of charity work. I think the last

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<v Speaker 1>last time I really looked into it, they spend like

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<v Speaker 1>two million a day on charity worldwide.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a very well funded organization, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And although their number are dwindling these days, they still

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of money coming in because throughout the years,

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<v Speaker 1>different temples and different lodges have put their money into

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<v Speaker 1>endowments that they are still the lodge is getting the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of these days. So for anybody who doesn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>they are listed as a five oh one C ten

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit in a lot of places, and a five a'

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<v Speaker 1>one C ten is a I actually don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they're listed as a five to oh one C ten

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<v Speaker 1>or now a religious organization. I believe they would be

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<v Speaker 1>classified as even though they are specifically non religious, a

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<v Speaker 1>C ten versus a C three like you might have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of, a C three you can donate money to

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<v Speaker 1>other organizations, a C ten you can donate money to

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<v Speaker 1>an individual if they meet a certain criteria. So I

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<v Speaker 1>believe they're listed that way. But besides the point, they

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<v Speaker 1>took a lot of because they paid dues. They pay

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<v Speaker 1>monthly dues their members due to their lodge, and that

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<v Speaker 1>money gets put in an account that later on the

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<v Speaker 1>treasurer and the grand Master can take and put to

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<v Speaker 1>words whatever they want as far as an investment goes,

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<v Speaker 1>not to enrich themselves but to enrich the lodge, and

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<v Speaker 1>that does in turn enrich the members because let's say

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<v Speaker 1>a freemason gets in some sort of legal trouble, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the case may be, his lodge will fund his legal fees.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they will absolutely feel the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah unless it's okay, if it's like a murder and

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<v Speaker 1>like multiple murders went down, I don't believe the lodge

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<v Speaker 1>is going to fund that.

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<v Speaker 2>But divorce court or some.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of a DWI situation or yeah, yeah, the lodge

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<v Speaker 1>will absolutely cover the lawyer costs one hundred percent. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's say you have a brother that gets

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<v Speaker 1>hurt on the job and he, you know, can't pay

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<v Speaker 1>his bills. The lodge will start sending some money his way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I mean. They're able to send money

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<v Speaker 1>to an individual rather than just an organization. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of benefits that a lot of freemasons get

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<v Speaker 1>from joining these lodges. And uh, not only of the

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<v Speaker 1>camaraderie and of the networking that they get, but but

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<v Speaker 1>also some financial things. However, yes, there are dues involved.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go to meetings, it's a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So we see these dudes at parades and in certain

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<v Speaker 1>case You'll even see some that are claiming that they're

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<v Speaker 1>Knight's templars, right, and so these are two sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the same coin as far as freemasonry is concerned. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm getting way ahead of myself here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is more.

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<v Speaker 1>This is more or less what you'll see in our

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<v Speaker 1>every day you know, comings and goings.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see the logos on the back of the cars.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a lot of them down here, A lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, like one in five cars will have

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<v Speaker 3>a type of logo on it. So there's a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>like every day, I see it consistently. So absolutely why

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<v Speaker 3>I brought this to your attention was because I've had

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<v Speaker 3>people talk about this, and to be fair, I do

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<v Speaker 3>know I feel like I know a bit about a bit,

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<v Speaker 3>but I also feel like there's so much information when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to this, and there's a lot of misinformation

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<v Speaker 3>too that like when people are asking me, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I know somebody that knows a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>in depth history that can actually explain it. And for

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<v Speaker 3>those that we have of new listeners that are just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to understand the basis of what the hell the

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<v Speaker 3>world has been doing for the last you know, two

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred years or something. Then this is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>one of those topics of you know, where did it begin,

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<v Speaker 3>how did it actually start? Is it the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>as the Knight's Templar, how are they different? And like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all of the questions that people have is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was hoping that you could shed some

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<v Speaker 3>light for the new cult members and kind of break

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<v Speaker 3>it all down for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So that's what we're going to do on this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>good cult members. We're going to break it all down.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to really, I don't want to say, do

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<v Speaker 1>the most comprehensive deep dive to ever be done. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be going down the rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 1>on the Freemasons. So for anybody that would like to

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<v Speaker 1>see all the articles, the videos, the publications that we

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<v Speaker 1>have pulled up to go into this, what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to see this rather than just hear us

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it is go to Patreon dot com slash

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<v Speaker 1>Cult Conspiracy Podcast. When you go there, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>all the information. This is the only place to get

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to that third Eye all the way

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<v Speaker 1>Open tier, not only will you get these things, but

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<v Speaker 1>cult member live events. They're always fun, they're always unhinged,

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<v Speaker 1>just a back and forth conversation with our good cult members.

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<v Speaker 2>And also if you go to that top tier, that

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<v Speaker 2>Manic Tier, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Only will you get everything that has been listed thus far,

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<v Speaker 1>you will also be receiving exclusive merchandise mail directly to

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<v Speaker 1>you from us as a massive token of our appreciation

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<v Speaker 1>for supporting us in this way. We have more and

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<v Speaker 1>more Manic Tier members that keep joining on a daily

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<v Speaker 1>and it's amazing. Also, I should mention that we are

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<v Speaker 1>still running the promo where if you sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire year, you're getting three months free.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just the way, yeah we are.

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<v Speaker 1>You sign up for the entire year, you're basically getting

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent off your order.

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<v Speaker 2>You do the math on that. My math ain't always math,

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<v Speaker 2>and but.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that that means three months out of

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<v Speaker 1>the year are free of charge and it is best

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<v Speaker 1>bang for buck as far as the content goes.

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<v Speaker 2>And we appreciate everybody's already gone and done so.

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<v Speaker 1>Without further ado, let me go ahead and share the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are gonna get started. Actually know what. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna share the screen just yet. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>paint a picture. I'm gonna paint a picture for everybody. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The year is circle way fucking back in the day, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have the year of our Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to say it correctly. Way the fuck yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And essentially you have these guys who are of a

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<v Speaker 1>more educated mindset. And I don't mean educated in the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional sense of uh oh, well, this is a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a noble class, or whatever the case is,

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<v Speaker 1>although that would definitely come in. You basically had a

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<v Speaker 1>network of dudes that were trying to not only help themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>think of a like a mafia almost, you know, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a networking opportunity and they're in the club, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. So they get hooked up whenever they get

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<v Speaker 1>in a jam, because you know, they just reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to some of their other guys in the club, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. And so cut to it's the Middle Ages,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have these these builders of all these great

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<v Speaker 1>castles and all these things, and you would have certain

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<v Speaker 1>tricks of the trade for these trades guilds, right like

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<v Speaker 1>the stone mason guild or the blacksmith guild or the

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<v Speaker 1>carpentry guild. Yeah, any old guy can get out there

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<v Speaker 1>and start busting up some rocks, for sure, but to

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<v Speaker 1>get a certain geometri Jesus Christ, geometric pattern, emetric words,

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<v Speaker 1>things and stuff. Then things you would need.

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<v Speaker 2>To be taught by a journeyman.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same concept as far as kraft work goes today.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're trying to be a welder, yeah, sure you

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<v Speaker 1>probably make some stuff stick. But if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>become a master at welding, you would want to get

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up with a journeyman who's been doing it for

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<v Speaker 1>reason it's still done to this day. So the Stonemason

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<v Speaker 1>Guild was very particular about who they would allow to

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<v Speaker 1>learn their craft. All of them were, but the Stonemasons

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<v Speaker 1>were special because they were the ones that were constructing castles,

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<v Speaker 1>their craft as spiritual and also physical. Yes, but you

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<v Speaker 1>to have a real set of skills blessed by God

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense clearly, right, And this goes back they

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, arithmetic, but not all things could be

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<v Speaker 1>of the Stonemasons weren't literate to that level. So they

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<v Speaker 2>And you see what I'm saying. They would like find ways.

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<v Speaker 1>To imbue spiritual and oftentimes biblical stories into their craft work,

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<v Speaker 1>and that story is very similar to how oral traditions

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<v Speaker 1>the way they are, these traditions are being used in

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, so okay, So it's like a fancy get

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially as far as stone masons go, yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why they wear a lambskin apron, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why they use the compass in square,

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<v Speaker 2>Now the lambskin.

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<v Speaker 1>Apron. That goes back to the original stone Masons as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because they would use lambskin it was readily available, and

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<v Speaker 1>random shard of rock, as they're essentially grand scale flintnapping, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so the apron has its origins in that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>modern Freemasons will make the connection to the Garden of

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<v Speaker 1>Eden and how the first clothing ever created biblically speaking

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<v Speaker 1>was fig leaves. And what did Adam and Eve do

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<v Speaker 1>with these fig leaves? They made aprons to cover their nakedness.

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<v Speaker 1>So they find ways of, like I said, imbuing spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>narratives into the craft work itself. You see what I'm saying. Ok? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So Middle Ages come around and the Stonemason's Guild. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of their secrets are their secrets, and at this

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<v Speaker 1>point it's not necessarily of the esoteric variety.

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<v Speaker 2>It's craft secrets, right, trade secrets, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we get into the renaissance, where now people are

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<v Speaker 1>school traditionalism, or at least what they thought it was anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is a renaissance not just of the culture,

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<v Speaker 1>but of masonry. And this is around the time when

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<v Speaker 1>what we see as free and accepted masonry comes into

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<v Speaker 1>the forefront. There are sigils that are carved into rocks

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<v Speaker 1>that date back to the fifteen hundreds of the Square

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<v Speaker 1>and Compass. But we're starting to get into murky territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether that was freemasonry or if that was stone masonry,

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<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying. There's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>controversy and a little bit of back and forth debate

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<v Speaker 1>on that. But some will say that freemasonry dates back

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the building of the Temple of Solomon,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what Freemasons believe.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a a far back way, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, and that's also why a lot of their iconography

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to that, why they have the grand worsh

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<v Speaker 1>full master and adult.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't practicing, and they didn't actually have a group

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<v Speaker 3>though until like later on.

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<v Speaker 4>Then how did it go all the way back?

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<v Speaker 1>They claim that this group operated in secret for centuries

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<v Speaker 1>and it only became a prominently well known thing around

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<v Speaker 1>the time of the Renaissance.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but if they had no like actual anything written down,

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<v Speaker 3>or they don't know anybody that was a part of

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<v Speaker 3>the secret society or anything, so they just made it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and no.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, depending on who you asked, they'll say that they

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<v Speaker 1>actually are the ones that built the Pyramids of Egypt

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<v Speaker 1>were clearly Freemasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, there's got a lot of bolster. They they really

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they did a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, and a lot of the principles that they

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<v Speaker 1>teach come out of Hermetic Cobbalism, but that came about later.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get to that in a bit. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so according to them, according to their story,

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<v Speaker 1>they claimed directly from the knights templars, which okay, is

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<v Speaker 1>a bold claim and I disagree with it for multiple reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, basically all historical.

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<v Speaker 1>To be completely honest with you, So all right, cut

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<v Speaker 1>back you ever see national treasure of course, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course you remember whenever they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Templar gold, that it made its way here from

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<v Speaker 1>the Freemasons, who took their name off the builders of

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Pyramids and the temples in Egypt. That is

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not exactly a direct connection like people might

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking, because the temples in Egypt and the Pyramids

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<v Speaker 1>were built, you know, twenty five hundred BC. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me for upwards of three thousand years the Freemasons

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<v Speaker 1>were operating in secret and no one knew about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I find this highly unlikely. So the Freemasons as we

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<v Speaker 1>know today really came about sixteen hundreds seventeen hundreds. They

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<v Speaker 1>started becoming a thing that people like understood were operating

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<v Speaker 1>right and around the same time the Illuminati became a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to get to them in specific here

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<v Speaker 1>in a bit. So the Knights Templars, for anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>does not know, were a group of warrior monks blessed

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<v Speaker 1>by the Pope to operate in and around the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Land and protect pilgrims. They were able to own land.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually, in the craziest turn of events ever, somehow

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to convince the pope to not pay

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<v Speaker 1>taxes or tithes, which y'all got to understand how fucking

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<v Speaker 1>wild that was for this day and age. For you

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<v Speaker 1>to be a ecumenical order to not pay taxes to

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<v Speaker 1>your local lord. Okay, you can probably get away with that,

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<v Speaker 1>to not pay tithes to the local church. Basically, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a group that was only answerable to the Pope himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Kings had to acknowledge the fact that that knights templars

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<v Speaker 1>were untouchable. This is this is fucking insane for the

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<v Speaker 1>day and.

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<v Speaker 4>Age, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They also formed the first system of we might

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<v Speaker 1>call international banking. So the knights templars would traveling to

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<v Speaker 1>and from Jerusalem on a pilgrimage, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Christians did back in these days, which I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to do one of these days.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't just carry.

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<v Speaker 1>Around all of the gold and all the money you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need for the next year of your life, because

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get bandits attack you on the road, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a thing that a lot of the Islamic

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<v Speaker 1>bandits were doing to the Christian pilgrims who were going

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<v Speaker 1>unarmed because they're on pilgrimage. So the Knights Templar started

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<v Speaker 1>out as a way to protect these pilgrims. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they realize, what if we were to do this, What

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<v Speaker 1>if we were to set up a spot in Jerusalem

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<v Speaker 1>or in Acker or wherever in Jaffa where we would

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<v Speaker 1>have a storehouse full of gold, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>spot in Paris and in Rome and in all these

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<v Speaker 1>places full of gold. And basically, let's say, old boy

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<v Speaker 1>gives me one hundred gold pieces and I will write

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<v Speaker 1>him a ledger what we today might call a check,

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<v Speaker 1>and this person instead of carrying around one hundred pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of gold, they'll carry this paper ledger with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>then once they get to their location, we'll give them

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<v Speaker 1>equal parts gold with interest, of course, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>my God. The fact that they charged interest was that

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<v Speaker 1>was seen as evil for the DNA, But the Knights

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<v Speaker 1>Templars were allowed to charge interest again, blessed by the

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<v Speaker 1>Pope to do so so.

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<v Speaker 4>Share They weren't Jews, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Would think, you would think, but no, no, they weren't. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were kind of They were not too kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jews to be completely honest with you, but that you know, historically.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking, neither were the Muslims.

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<v Speaker 1>So is what it is. But anyway, so they would

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<v Speaker 1>have this international banking system set up, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to own land. As a matter of fact, at

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<v Speaker 1>one point in time they bought Cyprus, like the island

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<v Speaker 1>of Cyprus, which that was because of Richard the lion Heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a whole other thing. But beside the point,

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<v Speaker 1>the Templar Knights, who started off being so poor that

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<v Speaker 1>two knights had to share the same horse, became this

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<v Speaker 1>internationally overly well like more wealthy than any king organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of that, they got the boot, they were tortured,

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<v Speaker 1>they were arrested, They had drummed up charges about all

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<v Speaker 1>these heretical things that they were doing. Some were saying

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate kisses, some were saying spitting on the cross, some

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<v Speaker 1>were saying that they were worshiping the head of John

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<v Speaker 1>the Baptist. There's so many stories, so many stories about

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<v Speaker 1>what the knights Templars were doing that made them actually

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<v Speaker 1>super evil. Even though like a hundred years after they

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<v Speaker 1>were all burned at the stake and all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of church fathers came up and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, they totally didn't do that like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that understandably did not happen. And then Pope Francis, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not mistaken, actually publicly released all of the information

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<v Speaker 1>to say no, the Knights Templar were absolutely not doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything evil behind closed doors. All of that was drummed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Charges were sorry, so it's understood.

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<v Speaker 4>We killed all these people, but like, ma bad.

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<v Speaker 2>The Catholic Church be doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes the Catholic Church be doing that quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, yeah, they do. So the Knights Templars went underground.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them were murdered, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>were arrested, but there was a few that escaped to Portugal,

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<v Speaker 1>which was seen as a safe haven for the Knights Templars.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are still a few groups of Templar Knights

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<v Speaker 1>that do claim direct lineage from the original Templars that

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<v Speaker 1>are out of Portugal, and I have to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>they have the strongest claim of anyone else on earth

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<v Speaker 1>by and large, because they can actually prove that historically

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<v Speaker 1>and documents in all the things. The last grand Master

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<v Speaker 1>of the Knights Templars was a guy named Jacques de Molat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a French dude, and for over a year they

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<v Speaker 1>brutally medieval tortured this guy to get all these confessions out.

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<v Speaker 1>One day he was burned at the stake in view

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<v Speaker 1>of Notre Dame, and he put out a curse on

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<v Speaker 1>the King of France who arrested him, and the Pope

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<v Speaker 1>who over saw it and said, before a year is up,

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<v Speaker 1>I will see you before a tribunal in front of God.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of those dudes are dead within a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Interestingly enough, Wow, so all the things okay, so they

425
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<v Speaker 3>came first.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Then this is where then came. Well, this is where

427
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<v Speaker 1>the legend begins. Because when the knights Templars were arrested,

428
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<v Speaker 1>all of their storehouses which were full of gold, their banks,

429
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<v Speaker 1>they think of their big banking hubs, they're big vaults.

430
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<v Speaker 1>When they were arrested the green gods, let's think about that,

431
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<v Speaker 1>the Knight's templar version of green gods all over Europe,

432
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<v Speaker 1>all over what in one spot, hundreds of these locations.

433
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<v Speaker 1>When they were arrested, all of the guards went in

434
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<v Speaker 1>to snatch the gold. Not a single piece was ever found, really,

435
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<v Speaker 1>not a single piece.

436
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<v Speaker 3>So either to this day, to this day, the gee's

437
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<v Speaker 3>got it.

438
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

439
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest with you, I think that they

440
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<v Speaker 1>had some inside knowledge because they were very well funded

441
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and very well plugged in. So when the King of

442
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<v Speaker 1>France decided that he was going to come and excommunicate

443
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<v Speaker 1>them and do well, the pope ex communicate the king

444
00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>arrested them. I have a weird feeling that somebody in

445
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<v Speaker 1>the king's court overheard the conversation and got word to

446
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<v Speaker 1>the knight's templars and they got all the gold out

447
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<v Speaker 1>there a week prior to them getting arrested. It happened

448
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<v Speaker 1>on October thirteenth, as a matter of fact, which most

449
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<v Speaker 1>historians would say is why October or Friday the thirteenth

450
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<v Speaker 1>is seen as a unlucky day.

451
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<v Speaker 2>It goes back to this.

452
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<v Speaker 1>So none of the gold was ever found, and there's

453
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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of groups that still to this day will

454
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<v Speaker 1>claim that that's where they got their austatious wealth from

455
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<v Speaker 1>is from templar gold or something like that. I am

456
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<v Speaker 1>of the belief that a lot of it made its

457
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<v Speaker 1>way to Portugal, some of it made its way to England,

458
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<v Speaker 1>some of it made its way to the northern European countries.

459
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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the case, there's all kinds of people that claim

460
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<v Speaker 1>that they know what happened, but nothing is concrete. So

461
00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the Knight's templar, some of them went underground with their gold.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Some of them were just never seen of again. But

463
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<v Speaker 1>here is where the Mason templar connection starts and stops.

464
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<v Speaker 1>And then a new myth and legend picked up. So

465
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<v Speaker 1>Jacques de Molay he gets burned at the stake. His

466
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<v Speaker 1>second in command who took over after him, was a

467
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<v Speaker 1>dude named Larminius. Larminius wrote a charter which we're gonna

468
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<v Speaker 1>talk about here in a bit. I got a section

469
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<v Speaker 1>of it pulled up specifically. In this charter he talks

470
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<v Speaker 1>about how there is a group of templars in Scotland

471
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<v Speaker 1>that are not associated with the actual knights templars. They

472
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<v Speaker 1>do not hold true to the templar values, they do

473
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<v Speaker 1>not hold true to Christianity. These templars are not us,

474
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<v Speaker 1>the people in Scotland. We're operating out of a place

475
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<v Speaker 1>called Rosalind Chapel. And if you've ever seen the Da

476
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<v Speaker 1>Vinci Code, that would be the Roslyn Chapel in question,

477
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<v Speaker 1>which is a real place and that is what a

478
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<v Speaker 1>lot of people would say would be the birthplace of Freemasons.

479
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<v Speaker 1>So the actual Knights Templars is said that this group

480
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<v Speaker 1>that later became Freemasons are not true templars yet somehow

481
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<v Speaker 1>the Freemasons have two routes you could take, right, so

482
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<v Speaker 1>you have your first basic levels. There's thirty three degrees

483
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<v Speaker 1>in regular freemasonry, blue side free masonry, if you will.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Three is usually the number of the people will get

485
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<v Speaker 1>to entered apprentice, and then uh, what's the next one?

486
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<v Speaker 1>Fellowship apprentice or something like that, and then master Mason,

487
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<v Speaker 1>which is the third level. And you could stop there

488
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<v Speaker 1>and just chill there for the rest of your life.

489
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<v Speaker 1>But if you want to go further into masonry, you

490
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<v Speaker 1>have to choose Scottish right or York right, i e.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Knights Templars or Shriners.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I didn't realize that.

493
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<v Speaker 1>So this is where the templar connection comes.

494
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<v Speaker 3>So this is like the Knights templar that they're claiming

495
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<v Speaker 3>is the fake ones, not the true ones.

496
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Oh okay, okay, So you.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Know what with that one. Let's go ahead and share

498
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<v Speaker 1>the screen and we're gonna play a quick little clip

499
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<v Speaker 1>about Rosalind Chapel and templars. And there's iconography that would

500
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<v Speaker 1>say that, oh, clearly the Knights Templers are here. This

501
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<v Speaker 1>is what we would call a forgery. But beside the point,

502
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen. Let's talk

503
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<v Speaker 1>about it more so. Now, let's talk about the Rosalind

504
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<v Speaker 1>Chapel in Scotland and why so many people believe that

505
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<v Speaker 1>this is where the Templars ran to and hid, even

506
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<v Speaker 1>though again we're gonna talk about the charter itself in

507
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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but let's talk about Roslin Chapel first.

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<v Speaker 5>A building is just a building until it becomes part

509
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<v Speaker 5>of a story, and the story becomes part of a legend.

510
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<v Speaker 5>That's what happened to Rosalind Chapel, located just seven miles

511
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<v Speaker 5>southeast of Edinburgh, Scotland. The chapel was founded in fourteen

512
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<v Speaker 5>forty six by Sir Williams and Clair as a Roman

513
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Catholic collegiate church, meaning it was self governing, with financial

514
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:10.079
<v Speaker 5>support coming from the Sinclair family. What really made Rosalind

515
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<v Speaker 5>Chapel famous was the twenty three publication of Dan Brown's

516
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 5>best selling mystery novel The Da Vinci Code. This was

517
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<v Speaker 5>followed by the huge box office success of the movie

518
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<v Speaker 5>version in twenty oh six starring Tom Hanks. Rosalind Chapel

519
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 5>now welcomes about one hundred forty thousand visitors each year.

520
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.720
<v Speaker 5>It's an easy, inexpensive public bus ride from the heart

521
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 5>of Edinburgh. The number twenty two bus takes you to

522
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 5>the village of Roslin, just a short walk from the chapel.

523
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<v Speaker 5>Indoor photography is not permitted, but published images and outdoor

524
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<v Speaker 5>photography give you an idea of the intricate masonry and

525
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:55.640
<v Speaker 5>carving that first made it famous. The chapel we see

526
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 5>today took about forty years to complete, but it's less

527
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<v Speaker 5>than half the size that was planned by Sir William.

528
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<v Speaker 5>He died in fourteen eighty four and his heirs apparently

529
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<v Speaker 5>decided it was big enough. A little over one hundred

530
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<v Speaker 5>years after the chapel was completed, the Protestant Reformation swept

531
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<v Speaker 5>over Scotland. The Saint Clair's were worn to close the

532
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 5>chapel or risk losing their land and possibly their lives.

533
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<v Speaker 5>They complied. The chapel sat abandoned and neglected for almost

534
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 5>one hundred fifty years. At one point during the English

535
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:36.440
<v Speaker 5>Civil War, Oliver Cromwell stabled horses in the chapel. In

536
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<v Speaker 5>sixteen sixty the old Roslyn Inn open next door. It

537
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 5>attracted artists, writers, aristocrats and royals. The great Scottish writer

538
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 5>Sir Walter Scott campaigned to restore the chapel as part

539
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<v Speaker 5>of an effort to build national pride and identity. The

540
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 5>first major renovation began in eighteen thirty seven. The legend

541
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<v Speaker 5>that attracted Dan Brown was the possible link between the

542
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:05.960
<v Speaker 5>chapel and a religious order of warrior knights called the

543
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<v Speaker 5>Knights Templar. They provided protection to pilgrims who flocked to

544
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<v Speaker 5>the Holy Land after the Crusades. In the process, they

545
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 5>became very rich and very powerful. They built a fort

546
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<v Speaker 5>on top of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. When the

547
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<v Speaker 5>Crusaders were driven out of the Holy Land they returned

548
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 5>to Europe. French King Philip convinced the Pope to disband

549
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:34.160
<v Speaker 5>the Templars. Eventually there were mass arrests and executions, but

550
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 5>some got away and may have been able to take

551
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 5>some of the Templar treasure and holy relics collected in Jerusalem,

552
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.839
<v Speaker 5>most notably the Holy Grail, the cup Jesus used at

553
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 5>the Last Supper with them. Many believed the Templars became

554
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<v Speaker 5>Masons and created the Order of Freemasonry, and that the

555
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 5>Masons who built Rosalind Chapel did so with the idea

556
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<v Speaker 5>of making it a sacred place to house the gray

557
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<v Speaker 5>and other sacred objects. Is that real history or just

558
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<v Speaker 5>a good story. Whatever people believe, it's bringing them back

559
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<v Speaker 5>to Rosslyn.

560
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<v Speaker 1>So breaking this down the reason why and back to

561
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<v Speaker 1>the history lesson here. The reason why the Knights Templars

562
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<v Speaker 1>were called the Knights Templars was actually they started off

563
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<v Speaker 1>being the poor Knights of Christ. That was their official

564
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 1>name in the papal bowl from the Pope. But they

565
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 1>were used in a couple of big military campaigns. They

566
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<v Speaker 1>retook the city of Jerusalem and then they were given

567
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<v Speaker 1>the site of what once was the Temple, the Solomon's Temple,

568
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the holy spot where the Jews for years would do

569
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>their big things right, So when they got there, there

570
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>was about ten years where they didn't really do much.

571
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<v Speaker 1>Some speculated that they started digging and excavating underneath the

572
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<v Speaker 1>temple and where they found a bunch of holy relics

573
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that were underneath. In some of these like I don't

574
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 1>want to say underground caves, but basically like the basement

575
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>levels of the original site of the temple. They later

576
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>were called Templar Knights and then later just Templars because

577
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>they took the Temple of Solomon. Okay, okay, I.

578
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Didn't actually know the history of how they got their

579
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<v Speaker 4>name at all.

580
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, okay, fair enough, fair enough. And that's is part

581
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<v Speaker 2>of the.

582
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<v Speaker 1>Reason why we're doing this episode. We're just going in deep,

583
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<v Speaker 1>you know, so tell me Allegedly they found certain relics.

584
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<v Speaker 1>And I don't like the fact that he even brought

585
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>up the Holy Grail. Here's the deal, y'all. The Holy

586
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Grail doesn't exist. I hate to be that asshole.

587
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:44.880
<v Speaker 4>You don't think it exists.

588
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 1>It only gets brought up in Middle Aged Romantic literature

589
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the same way that King Arthur's sword Excalibur.

590
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Gets brought up.

591
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<v Speaker 3>You are not gonna say that Excalaber doesn't exist or

592
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 3>the Lady in the Lake doesn't exist.

593
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's rude.

594
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>King Arthur being a play a dude, sure, a Camelot

595
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 1>being a spot okay, fine, Merlin being a druid wizard, okay, fine, sure,

596
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 1>for sure. But the part itself Excalibur, and that's the thing,

597
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 1>perfect example, was it the Lady in the lake or

598
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 1>did he pull the sword from the stone. Mmmmm.

599
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<v Speaker 3>See, yep, there's if I and I don't even want

600
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.839
<v Speaker 3>to be incorrect about this. I feel like at one

601
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 3>point the lady in the lake gave it to him,

602
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 3>and then something happened.

603
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<v Speaker 4>Then he ended up having to pull it from the

604
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 4>stone too.

605
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<v Speaker 1>So I've actually never heard that there was a connection

606
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 1>between the two counts. Depending on the las you go down,

607
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>either A it was given to him by a lady

608
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in the lake, or B only the true king can

609
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>pull the sword from the stone, and this ten year

610
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>old comes up and yanks it.

611
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<v Speaker 2>But that's my point, Hannah.

612
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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter what you look up on this one

613
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<v Speaker 1>because there is no set story, because this is not true.

614
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<v Speaker 1>This is a legend Excalibur itself. Yeah, maybe King Arthur

615
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>had a sword he called Excalibri, but the backstory of

616
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 1>its complete fabrication because it was about romantic literature. The

617
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<v Speaker 1>same could be said for the Holy Grail, the cup

618
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that Jesus drank from at the Last Supper.

619
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<v Speaker 2>There is zero, zero, evidence at all.

620
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<v Speaker 1>That the disciples or the apostles i should say, kept

621
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<v Speaker 1>any of the plate in silverware and cups or anything

622
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<v Speaker 1>from the Last Supper. Because keep in mind they all

623
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<v Speaker 1>went into hiding immediately after he was taken and crucified

624
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and rose from the dead. That wasn't even their house

625
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>they went to find. There was a random house that

626
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 1>already had the Passover feast set up. It wasn't even

627
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 1>their spot. That wasn't their cups, their plates or any

628
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of this shit. So the entire backstory that the Holy

629
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<v Speaker 1>Grail and all these things that that's a complete historically speaking,

630
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 1>a complete fabrication brought up around romantic literature.

631
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<v Speaker 3>And so I feel like the Holy Grail might exist

632
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 3>all Probably it probably is not, maybe honestly because of

633
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>course India and Jones is like the best. But sure,

634
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, it was like the most simple cup because

635
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 3>it was just like not anything fancy house that they

636
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 3>were at so cold. It could had the cup existed,

637
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 3>because you know whatever, they kept it because that was

638
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 3>like the last thing that he touched.

639
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 4>Maybe, so is it still around, Not highly probable, But you.

640
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Know, there's a few of them.

641
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a few of these artifacts that people talk about

642
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 1>these days that again, if you want to believe in them, fine,

643
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 1>you're you're not like a bad person or a bad

644
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Christian or whatever. You're not a bad or you know,

645
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not committing evil by believing that the Holy Grail

646
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>is a real thing, or the longenest Spear is a

647
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 1>real thing, or oh they had a fragment of the

648
00:34:53.719 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 1>True Cross. But if you look at historical documentation, soldier

649
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 1>that speared Jesus, maybe he did have a massive conversion

650
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and change his life and become a follower of the Way,

651
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and we would now call that Christianity. Possibly. Okay, why

652
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>would he save his spear? Well, you know they say, no, no, no,

653
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>See that's the thing. We're not going off of what

654
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 1>they say. We're going off of historical documentation. And there

655
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>is zero evidence that the dude who speared Jesus and

656
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the blood and water came out of him, There's zero

657
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>evidence to say that he did anything with that spear.

658
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So all these people that are acting like the longen

659
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>his spear is a real artifact, I'm sorry. There's zero

660
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>evidence to suggest such same thing with the True Cross.

661
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 1>So apparently big big Emperor dude who only converted because

662
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>his mom pressured him into it, sends his mom to

663
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Land and she's actually the one that founded

664
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>what we would now call the Church of the Holy Sepulcher,

665
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the spot where Jesus was crucified. Right, she goes and

666
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 1>does all these things and does some I want to

667
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>use the term archaeological digging, because this was before that

668
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.760
<v Speaker 1>term was even really used. But she finds allegedly a

669
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of crazy artifacts that are super special. A

670
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>part of it was a piece of the actual cross

671
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 1>that Jesus was crucified on. So say her, and if

672
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 1>you question her, you're questioning the king and you should

673
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 1>be thrown in jail.

674
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>This is the true fucking cross. Because I said, so.

675
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 4>You yeah, like that's oh.

676
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 3>To be fair, I did look up the history of

677
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 3>the sword, so I was correct. There's two. So either

678
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.880
<v Speaker 3>there's two swords or the sword got repaired. So cause

679
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.519
<v Speaker 3>originally he got the sword from the stone and then

680
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 3>it broke and then he got it repaired by the

681
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 3>lady in the lake. So there's an argument that there's two,

682
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>that there's either two swords or that it is the

683
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 3>same sword that got repaired.

684
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

685
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>So if anyone wants to actually read the history of it,

686
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 3>you can go to Ancient Word and Origins and they'll

687
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 3>like break down the entire story.

688
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 4>But I really I vibe.

689
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I vibe with Skyle, but I'm not gonna lie like

690
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a great story.

691
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a story, and it is great and it does

692
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>teach lessons and all these things.

693
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>But like then we get into the conversation of the

694
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Green Knight versus Lancelot, which one's actually the bad guy?

695
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, Yeah, there's a lot of different versions of

696
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 3>Lancelot and was he good?

697
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 4>Was he bad?

698
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Was he envious that he actually you know, purposely go

699
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 3>behind King Arthur, like there's a whole bunch of different

700
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 3>variations of the story or no one will know the truth.

701
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Never because it's more possible that these are legends that

702
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>were attributed to an ancient kingdom that probably existed.

703
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but all of these.

704
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Other story arcs and character arcs were kind of made

705
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>famous from.

706
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Playwrights m.

707
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Well back to this though. So the Holy Grail they

708
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 3>potentially found.

709
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Which again there's no record decision, which.

710
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Why would it be here? Of all places? It would not?

711
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like so that's just me.

712
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>So that's the other.

713
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Thing, right, they say that they found the Holy Grail

714
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>underneath the Temple of Solomon. Just so we're all clear.

715
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>The Temple of Solomon was housed by the dudes that

716
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>murdered Jesus. Why the fuck would they keep the cup

717
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.639
<v Speaker 1>that the heretic they called Jesus.

718
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Why would they keep that?

719
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 4>They didn't see that unless they thought it had magical powers.

720
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>But again, there's no evidence to suggest this, and the

721
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Jews wouldn't give a fuck about that. They got their

722
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 1>own version of things that have magical powers, and shit,

723
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 1>it just it makes no sense. But yes, some say

724
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 1>that the Knights Templar found the Holy Grail. Then you'll

725
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>read Dan Brown's book and he'll say, actually, the Holy

726
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Grail is Mary Magdalene, and she and Jesus had babies,

727
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's the bloodlines that led to European royalty. And

728
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 1>again there is less than zero evidence to say that

729
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 1>actually existed. If anything, Mary Magdalene and John the Beloved

730
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:58.280
<v Speaker 1>might have been a couple. We know that they at

731
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 1>least traveled to Ephesus together and died there, so there's

732
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 1>more of it.

733
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>If we're gonna say that that the apostle.

734
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>John and Mary Magdalene may have had children together and

735
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe that bloodline became the royalty of Europe. Okay, we're

736
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about two apostles. Essentially, that would be wild as fuck.

737
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 1>But the sci fi murder mystery Who done it? Book,

738
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the da Vinci cod says a whole nother story. But

739
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>we're getting off topic. So they say that they found

740
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Grail. They say they found the head of

741
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.119
<v Speaker 1>John the Baptist. Also would be fucking wild because he

742
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>was beheaded by Herod because his daughter wanted it because

743
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of her mom, who was jealous of John for calling

744
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>her a whore basically publicly. But beside the point, nobody

745
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>would have saved that. Nobody's gonna protect that relic. So

746
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just there's so many things that were attributed that

747
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 1>the templars found that cannot be historically fact checked by

748
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 1>any stretch of the imagination. It's one of these things

749
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 1>that just kind of became legend, kind of became lore,

750
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and now people just know that they had it, and

751
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, but how how do we know that? But anyway,

752
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>beside the point, so Roslyn Chapel, this is where the

753
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>connection to knights, templars, and Freemasons start and stop. And

754
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.199
<v Speaker 1>again this goes back to Larminius. So the Larminius Charter

755
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>is it's I'm gonna try to pronounce this. Karta Transmissionals

756
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay is a nineteenth century document claiming to prove the

757
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>survival of the Knights Templars after thirteen fourteen by recording

758
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>a secret lineage of grand masters starting with Johannes Marcus Larminius.

759
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>And if you look up Larminius, he was in fact

760
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>the second of command to Jacques de Molay, so once

761
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Molay died, this would have been his natural successor okay.

762
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>It is widely considered a forgery by scholars and is

763
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 1>distinct from traditions regarding templars in Scotland, but even within

764
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 1>this charter, and this charter is currently housed at the

765
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Grand International Lodge of the Freemasons in London, England. This

766
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>charter specifically says that the templars quote unquote that we're

767
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:11.639
<v Speaker 1>operating in Scotland are not true templars. Yet the Freemasons

768
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>house this in their Grand Lodge and claimed that this

769
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 1>is their connection to the Knights templars. Make it make sense?

770
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 1>I can't, but like what, it's one of these things

771
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I suppose, so anyway, The charter focuses primarily on a

772
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>continental French lineage of succession and makes no direct historical,

773
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 1>substantiated link to continued Scottish templar organizations. Controversy and forgery.

774
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 1>We might as well bring this up while we're talking

775
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.559
<v Speaker 1>about it. The document first appeared in eighteen oh four,

776
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>so the document allegedly dates back to thirteen fourteen by

777
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>an organization that was being aggressively and brutally hunted by

778
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 1>every royal family on the European continent with the exception

779
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>of Portugal, and somehow this document survived, give or take

780
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>five hundred years, and was finally brought forward. It's generally

781
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>seen as a forgery meant to bolster the authority of

782
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the neo templar groups i e. The Freemasons anyway, so

783
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that that I could pull up the actual genuine article itself.

784
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>But there's no real need, Like I said, Historians even

785
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.800
<v Speaker 1>argue to this day of it's genuine or not, or

786
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>if the copy that they have in the Grand Lodge

787
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>might be a a recreation of the original or whatever.

788
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.599
<v Speaker 4>But even so, soundly, it's bullshit.

789
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it's bullshit, but it.

790
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Sounds like they just made up some shit and they're like,

791
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 3>you know that, But like, but why specifically, I guess

792
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 3>who created the Freemasons, Like who is the founder of it?

793
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, that depends on who you ask, because the Freemasons

794
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>will claim that it goes back to Hiram Abiff, who

795
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 1>is one of the architects of the Temple of Solomon,

796
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>original Temple of Solomon.

797
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:57.679
<v Speaker 4>Because it's like, okay, well who created it?

798
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 3>So they would have they would have had to have

799
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 3>knowledge of the Knights templar and like there are at

800
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 3>least some of their information. And then fast forward to

801
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 3>this time. So were they a historian, Like did they

802
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 3>you know?

803
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

804
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it's kind of interesting though, Like you'd had

805
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 3>to have known about it. You'd had to have found

806
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 3>the records and read about the specific group to understand

807
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of what they went.

808
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Through to be able to base this group off of them.

809
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would think, you would think, But then cut

810
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to the Renaissance. You have these groups that are operating

811
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 1>in secret. And for the record, it wasn't just the Freemasons.

812
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>There was all kinds of these aristocratic groups that would

813
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>get together to discuss philosophy and they would exchange, you know,

814
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>ideas about so many different things. Well, that's kind of

815
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the point of what freemasonry became, right, So it was

816
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>no longer the craftsmen. You mean the dudes that are

817
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.760
<v Speaker 1>working with their hands. They're obviously not Masons. It's like, wait,

818
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 1>they're stone Masons, Like the dudes are actually carving. Yeah, well, yeah,

819
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about people of a certain caliber, people of

820
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 1>a certain mindset. It's a whole thing. It's a whole

821
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>fucking thing. So around the Renaissance it became this philosophical group.

822
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Two of their main rules is that you do not

823
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>discuss politics. You do not discuss religion, period fucking period. Now,

824
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a Freemason, you have to believe in some

825
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of divine power. It doesn't have to be God,

826
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to be uh Ahuramazda. It doesn't have

827
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to be uh you know, the Hindu, the elephant in Krishna,

828
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. You have to at least you can't

829
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 1>be an atheist, like, you have to at least believe

830
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>in some sort of a creator being or what they

831
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>would call the divine architect.

832
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I actually thought this was more of a religious

833
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.719
<v Speaker 3>group than anything. More of like a culty religious group

834
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:02.039
<v Speaker 3>kind of.

835
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Vibe so it became that, but that's not what we're

836
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to that orig We're gonna get to that

837
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.639
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about Albert Pike. But so where it

838
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>started from was basically around the Renaissance. Leave your religion

839
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 1>at the door. We're here to discuss high minded conversation, philosophy, rhetoric,

840
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>these types of things, basically scholarly debate and camaraderie and

841
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>brotherhood and all these things and their rituals for joining

842
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 1>actually go back to a murder that allegedly took place

843
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>when really so back to the conversation about how they

844
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>take their notes from mason guilds. Apparently there was a

845
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 1>master mason on a job site who had his book

846
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that you know, had all the secrets of the tricks

847
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>of the trade of masonry, and three of his younger

848
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>guys wanted this book and decided that, like, yo, we

849
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>want to know what these secrets are because we're trying

850
00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 1>to elevate ourselves. And he's like, no, you're not ready

851
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for them. And for the record, I don't mean spiritually,

852
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean this same conversation as you got this guy

853
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 1>who's been doing this job for forty years, and you

854
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 1>got these young cats have been in the field for

855
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>two years and they're like, well, I want to make

856
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the same money as you. And it's like, no, you're

857
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>not ready. You ain't paid your dues. You have to

858
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about before you get onto this.

859
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:24.159
<v Speaker 1>So they killed him. They killed him and stole the book. Okay,

860
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is the murder that has re enacted every

861
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.639
<v Speaker 1>time a Mason joins the order.

862
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.599
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that maybe one of the Stonemasons was

863
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:41.679
<v Speaker 3>hired to I don't know, maybe fix something that they

864
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 3>were able to find the records of the Knights, Like

865
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.119
<v Speaker 3>they were hired by the church, and they found the

866
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 3>records and they like read the records and then like

867
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 3>they I don't know, word of mouth, it decided to

868
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.599
<v Speaker 3>create some kind of society like hey, these people were

869
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 3>kind of cool back in the day, Like it's brow thing,

870
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.360
<v Speaker 3>like we could do this too.

871
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>So how can I put this without sounding insulting to people?

872
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.280
<v Speaker 2>How much experience do you have with college fraternities.

873
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm I mean I know a good bit about them. Okay,

874
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:12.760
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna join a sorority.

875
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So every fraternity, if you ask them, will say

876
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that they are the ones that created beer pong.

877
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>They were actually.

878
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>The first Greek brotherhood in the United States. They were

879
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 1>the first to create the beer pong as well. They

880
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 1>all have these stories of legend and lord that make

881
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>them the original and make them so much cooler than

882
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:40.119
<v Speaker 1>all the rest. It's all bullshit. It's all stories. It's

883
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>all It doesn't matter who created it, but everyone claims

884
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.679
<v Speaker 1>that they were the first, they are the biggest, they

885
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>are the oldest, all these things. It's the same with

886
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 1>like motorcycle clubs, like the Hell's Angels believe that they

887
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>are the biggest and the oldest. The Banditos believe they're

888
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the largest organization on Earth. The Outcast believes they're the

889
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>biggest organizations. It doesn't it doesn't make a fuck. But

890
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>same conversation here. The Freemasons basically created a bunch of

891
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>stories about their origin and it just got repeated so

892
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.320
<v Speaker 1>many times that now it's indiscernible from the truth.

893
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I guess I was just trying to figure out

894
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 3>exactly like how it got started and how they like

895
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 3>linked themselves to a thing that was five hundred years previous.

896
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 3>So in my mind, I'm just trying to follow the

897
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 3>chain of events of like who did this? Like who

898
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 3>who created this whole situation? And like how do they

899
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 3>know about this? How do they get the information? And

900
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I guess my thought processes is they worked on a

901
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 3>church for the Catholics, or they they found they were

902
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 3>doing something to where they found the information and they

903
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 3>were like, hey, I guess it sounds like a kind

904
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 3>of a cool idea.

905
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Let's let's take this and run with it.

906
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.639
<v Speaker 1>It would stand to reason that it would have started

907
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:54.280
<v Speaker 1>with actual Stonemasons, because, like we're saying, they come up

908
00:48:54.320 --> 00:49:00.039
<v Speaker 1>with these these spiritual stories to kind of juxtapose on

909
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to their craft in the building of these temples and things,

910
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 1>and then perhaps somewhere along the way it did take

911
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:09.119
<v Speaker 1>more of a esoteric and spiritual meaning behind it. And

912
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>then you get some guys that are of a higher

913
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>mind and a little more educated. They're like, wait a minute,

914
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 1>what are y'all talking about over there? Like hold on that, Yeah,

915
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.639
<v Speaker 1>that kind of lines up with something I'm reading about

916
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in this ancient book.

917
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 2>And over time, one thing leads to another.

918
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, when you look at the Renaissance, though, because that's

919
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.039
<v Speaker 3>when you really see a lot of the amazing stone

920
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:34.039
<v Speaker 3>work coming out again and so they were intermixed with

921
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 3>the art groups, which were intermixed with the philosophy groups,

922
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 3>and they were all interconnected to each other and having

923
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 3>a lot of interesting conversations. And they had a lot

924
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 3>of societal movements where they would invite multiple people in

925
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 3>different areas together to showcase their work and then to

926
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 3>have like these educated philosophy, theology and all this stuff

927
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of conversation. So I could see how, at least

928
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.679
<v Speaker 3>in my mind, how it would transverse.

929
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:03.320
<v Speaker 4>Into what it became.

930
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

931
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's actually the chain of events,

932
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 3>but at least in my mind, that's what I'm thinking

933
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 3>it would be.

934
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree absolutely. So you know what, Okay, let's read this.

935
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 1>This is from the Masons themselves. Here a brief history

936
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and philosophy of the Scottish Right. And I got another

937
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>one pulled up about the York Right as well. So

938
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>let's learn La France Lodge number ninety three. This is

939
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>the ninety third lodge ever founded on Earth. So the

940
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>introduction the first three degrees summarized the major differences that

941
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:33.320
<v Speaker 1>exist between the ancient and accepted Scottish Right, the aas R,

942
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 1>and the English rights exhortations emphasize the universally universatility of freemasonry,

943
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 1>and there is no chaplain among lodge officers to avoid

944
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:47.159
<v Speaker 1>any confusion whatsoever with religion. The questioning under the blindfold,

945
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 1>the chain of union, the embrace, and the triple kiss

946
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of the candidate's godfather, which is a it's just a

947
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>cheek kiss, It's not anything crazy. All repeated references to peace, love, joy,

948
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 1>heart's affection, kindest virtues, and the red rose given to

949
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the initiate to be offered to the woman he esteems

950
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:12.519
<v Speaker 1>most create more affectionate feelings. Manually drawing the tracing board

951
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.559
<v Speaker 1>of each degree, the bitter Cup, the four purifying ordeals,

952
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the use of swords, the mirror, and the perjurer's corpse

953
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 1>constitute a more sensorial approach, triggering a more emotional state

954
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of mind conductive to a more mystical disposition. I know

955
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:29.599
<v Speaker 1>we're going over a lot here, but we're gonna break

956
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it down, I promise. The use of the swords also

957
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>gives the whole right a definitive chivalric flavor. The order

958
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.679
<v Speaker 1>differences relating to the principle offers the steps, the tools,

959
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.679
<v Speaker 1>the ruffians blows the winding, the winding staircase, and the

960
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>middle chamber in the third degree and MB meaning the

961
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 1>father's son or new life significantly modify the symbolism of

962
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the ritual. For the record, the Ruffians blow is when

963
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 1>they get hit over the head with a hammer and

964
00:51:58.079 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>they fall back into a coffin and this is when

965
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>they do their mock death.

966
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 2>So this is an image that you've.

967
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Probably seen on a lot of cars, right. So, and

968
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you see this number thirty two, The highest degree you

969
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>could get is a thirty third degree mason, and this

970
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 1>is of the Scottish rite. Thirty two is just below it.

971
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And to get to thirty three, the only place that

972
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you could do this is at the Grand Lodge in Washington, DC.

973
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's a wild, wild pyramid in the middle of Washington, DC.

974
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a giant temple for these people. But anyway, this

975
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:35.360
<v Speaker 1>if you ever see the double headed eagle clutching a

976
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 1>sword with the Latin at the bottom and this triangle

977
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 1>in the center with a number, this is a Freemasonry logo.

978
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:48.320
<v Speaker 1>So the history of the AASR accounts for these differences,

979
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:51.760
<v Speaker 1>originating from the specific cultural environments in which English and

980
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Scottish rights were developed. The English rights were established in

981
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 1>a predominantly English Protestant culture with a more austere moral

982
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and social inspiration derived from the Old Testament, where the

983
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Scottish Rite was developed in predominantly Catholic France, inspired by

984
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a more effective and mystical message of the Gospel.

985
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>The history of aasr the.

986
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Masons. The origin of the speculative masonry is to be

987
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 1>found in the medieval Scottish operative mason labor guilds. These

988
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>early regulations are the old charges quote unquote of operative

989
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:31.440
<v Speaker 1>stone Masons described in the Regius Manuscript of thirteen ninety

990
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and William Shawl's Statutes of fifteen ninety eight and fifteen

991
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine. According to these documents, candidates were admitted during

992
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:44.559
<v Speaker 1>simple initiation ceremonies, including a brief legendary history of the craft,

993
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the articles uniting all masons, their duties, prayers, esoteric modes

994
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of recognition, and their obligation to keep this instruction secret.

995
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So before we go in further real quick thirteen ninety,

996
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:03.639
<v Speaker 1>the Regius Manuscript thirteen ninety. The Larminius Charter was allegedly

997
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>thirteen twenty four thirteen fourteen here give or take. So

998
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 1>this is where they're saying that, oh, the knights Templar died,

999
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the Freemasons were stood up. Clearly there's a connection here,

1000
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>although again there's no actual connection that could be made

1001
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 1>here because what we're reading about, and if you were

1002
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to read Regius Manuscript, this was a stone mason's guild

1003
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and there is no link whatsoever to warrior monks of

1004
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Faith to stonemasons. There's almost no connection to

1005
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that whatsoever. But the Regius Manuscript talks about the initiation

1006
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of becoming a stone mason and how you would keep

1007
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:49.519
<v Speaker 1>your trade secrets a secret.

1008
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

1009
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>So Scottish Freemasonry started moving to England in the sixteen forties,

1010
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.559
<v Speaker 1>and the Great Fire of London in sixteen sixty six

1011
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.719
<v Speaker 1>brought many more craftsmen from Ireland and Scotland to help

1012
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>with the reconstruction of the city. All they are likely

1013
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 1>to have shared their legends and primitive Masonic rituals and catechisms.

1014
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>As the construction of religious buildings, castles and mansions was

1015
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>still going on in Scotland and Ireland but was disappearing

1016
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:22.480
<v Speaker 1>in Europe and England, the operative stone mason lodges progressively

1017
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:27.800
<v Speaker 1>began to accept quote unquote non operative speculative masons. So

1018
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 1>what do we mean by that?

1019
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.559
<v Speaker 2>The stone mason guilds started taking on members into their

1020
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>little groups, their clubs if you will, that weren't actual

1021
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:37.079
<v Speaker 2>crafting stone masons.

1022
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so this is where it started to change.

1023
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Basically, Yes, And this is around once again, the sixteen forties,

1024
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:49.679
<v Speaker 1>sixteen sixty six, Like I said, sixteen hundreds into the

1025
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:53.320
<v Speaker 1>seventeen hundred. They're talking of Renaissance era here, right, So

1026
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:58.280
<v Speaker 1>moving forward, Speculative masonry at its creation is likely to

1027
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 1>have been somewhat deprived of substance, as was influenced by

1028
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the playful societies of the eighteenth century England, meeting in

1029
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:09.239
<v Speaker 1>taverns where talking, dining, card playing, and even gambling prevailed

1030
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>over knowledge and spirituality. It was fortunately improved by the intel.

1031
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey is known as a to have been actively involved

1032
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in the intellectual enlightenment of such institutions as the Royal

1033
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:27.519
<v Speaker 1>High Degree Rituals from seventeen thirty and seventeen thirty eight.

1034
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:31.239
<v Speaker 1>So this is whenever things went from a bunch of

1035
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:35.360
<v Speaker 1>dudes just dudes being bros over here. To listen, we

1036
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 1>need have a little bit of order here. We need

1037
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of structure. We need to make

1038
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:44.800
<v Speaker 1>this an official thing of a certain class of people. Right,

1039
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 1>So this really became like they put pen to paper

1040
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to make this what it was seventeen thirty to seventeen

1041
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:55.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. So Ramsey's Aura Society and the spiritual inspiration

1042
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of esoteric philosation philosoph low Socian Philosocian esoteric philosophy. Why

1043
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the fuck are they doing this anyway? I don't know.

1044
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:11.519
<v Speaker 1>It offered the doctrinal basis an original plan for the fees,

1045
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 1>such as the Rosa Crucian Society. So this is why.

1046
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 1>And for those that don't know what Rosaicrucianism is, it

1047
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.719
<v Speaker 1>is also called the Order of the Rosy Cross, and

1048
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it is a cross as unlike the Crucifix with roses

1049
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:31.119
<v Speaker 1>all over it. And it was Christian esotericism basically old

1050
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>school woo woo Christianity that kind of had a Gnostic flair,

1051
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of had a Christian flair, and took the Bible

1052
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 1>as a philosophical take rather than a historical document, and

1053
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that was gaining prominence around this time frame. Like I said,

1054
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:49.320
<v Speaker 1>there was all kinds of these secret societies that were

1055
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>popping up all over Europe of these people that basically

1056
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be like a part of the club

1057
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and have some sort of secret knowledge that it was

1058
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 1>all a part of this right. It was like the fomo,

1059
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't offer to the lower levels. It was

1060
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:05.280
<v Speaker 1>only offered to nobility class or educated class of people

1061
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to keep it the into the realm of exclusivity. So

1062
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>when the Freemasons kind of did this, they were taking

1063
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>some of their notes off of the Rosicrucians and then

1064
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>later kind of adopted them into their order. Like I said,

1065
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>one of them is Christian esotericism, and one of these

1066
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>are Eastern philosophies. We've got the York right in the

1067
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Scottish Rite, the Templars and the Shriners. One of them

1068
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>is more of the Rosicrucian Christian esotericism. One of them

1069
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:36.079
<v Speaker 1>is more of the Eastern Vedic Egyptian all these things

1070
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>as far as that philosophical take. But I'm getting ahead

1071
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 1>of myself, So moving on French masonry and Rosicrucian Society's

1072
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 1>renovation of French freemasonry and maybe considered Blue Lodge masonry

1073
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:53.280
<v Speaker 1>was slow to take its full shape. And blue lodge

1074
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:55.239
<v Speaker 1>if you will. If you've ever seen a Masonic logo

1075
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's blue with the square and compass, that's what blue

1076
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>lodge means. They also have something called a red lodge,

1077
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.079
<v Speaker 1>which are going to get to in a minute. There

1078
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>is some that's called a purple lodge that that's not

1079
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 1>like actually accepted. It's just it's like a moniker.

1080
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to.

1081
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:12.119
<v Speaker 1>And then there's whiteside free masonry that we'll talk about

1082
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.320
<v Speaker 1>more towards the end. But again getting way ahead of myself,

1083
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 1>the above mentioned manuscripts included only two degrees, apprenticed and

1084
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 1>fellow of the craft. That's the word I was trying

1085
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.239
<v Speaker 1>to look for earlier, I said, fellow craftsman, fellow.

1086
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Of the craft.

1087
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:29.000
<v Speaker 1>The arid as the first informal constitution of what would

1088
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 1>become Scottish Rite in France. At a time when masonry

1089
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.679
<v Speaker 1>started spreading over Europe. The best senior fellows became masters,

1090
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:38.280
<v Speaker 1>mainly in charge of many lodges came to be founded

1091
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:41.039
<v Speaker 1>by the followers of the Administration in supervision of the

1092
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:45.320
<v Speaker 1>work and morality Scottish Catholic Stewart dynasty, who fled from

1093
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Britain to the third degree with its legendary death of

1094
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Hiram which we're going to talk about Hiram Abiffin a

1095
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 1>bit France after the Stewarts had lost the throne of England,

1096
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 1>already mentioned in the Old Charges of the Stuarts. For

1097
00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.519
<v Speaker 1>the record, we're talking about the Royal House of Stuart,

1098
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.679
<v Speaker 1>the influence of the Stewart's on the development development in Scotland.

1099
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.159
<v Speaker 1>But it was also known in England in the mint

1100
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Scottish Rite in France that the Jacobite theory

1101
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>early seventeen twenties.

1102
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 2>The degree was officially.

1103
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Mentioned in the in the is credible when one knows

1104
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that the Duke of War in seventeen thirty eight second

1105
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:25.400
<v Speaker 1>edition of Anderson's Constitution, James Hector MacLean and Lord Darwin

1106
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Tar Darwin Water Jesus Christ As for high degrees, the

1107
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:33.639
<v Speaker 1>first reference appears in seventeen twenty eight, and there is

1108
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a record in the Daily Journal of September fifth, seventeen

1109
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:40.159
<v Speaker 1>fifty three I'm sorry, seventeen thirty five confirming that a

1110
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.679
<v Speaker 1>degree of Scots or Scotch Master was conferred at Temple

1111
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Bar in London and in Bath as early as seventeen

1112
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:50.679
<v Speaker 1>thirty three in the French lodge Saint George de le

1113
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Zervance whatever at the Convent Garden in London in seventeen

1114
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 1>thirty six.

1115
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:57.199
<v Speaker 2>So this is where we went.

1116
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:01.480
<v Speaker 1>From sixteen hundreds, we kind of have of groups of

1117
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:05.039
<v Speaker 1>stone mason guilds who are kind of talking about some

1118
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 1>esoteric things, but it's more stories to oral tradition their

1119
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:11.239
<v Speaker 1>craft a bit. Then it kind of gets into the

1120
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:15.239
<v Speaker 1>high societies of the Reformation and another Reformation I should say,

1121
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 1>the the the Renaissance, and then the first time we

1122
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.280
<v Speaker 1>actually have documented time frames as far as like a

1123
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 1>higher degree of masonry goes early seventeen hundreds.

1124
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.159
<v Speaker 3>So the babies compared to a lot of the other

1125
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.639
<v Speaker 3>secret orders that have been about for a long time.

1126
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, give me an example of a secret order that

1127
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:39.239
<v Speaker 1>predates this. And I'm not saying this to challenge you.

1128
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm just so the cult members of what we're talking about.

1129
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.480
<v Speaker 3>The nine that you talked about and the twelve that

1130
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.039
<v Speaker 3>you talked about that had been around for a long.

1131
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Time Ashoka's Nine Unknown Men, which I just because my

1132
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.199
<v Speaker 1>own biases I believe still exist. There's no record of

1133
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 1>them existing after Ashoka died, but I believe they do.

1134
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And then there's other organizations like the Twelve, but that's

1135
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like the Zodiac Club in New York, and that only

1136
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:09.039
<v Speaker 1>has existed for like one hundred years. Yeah, but as

1137
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.840
<v Speaker 1>far as Freemasons are concerned, they claim their lineage back

1138
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to the Knights Templars.

1139
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 2>And then also they are one of the.

1140
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Oldest, if not the oldest, secret fraternal orders on Earth

1141
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that are still been operating without fail. That being said,

1142
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:29.760
<v Speaker 1>when you start to look back and peel back the

1143
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:32.239
<v Speaker 1>layers of the onion as far as where their origin

1144
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 1>story really starts from sixteen hundred seventeen hundreds maybe.

1145
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean they're some pretty old, to be honest with you.

1146
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.079
<v Speaker 4>Sixteen h yeah, hot minute ago.

1147
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 1>So oh it's nothing to scoff at by any means,

1148
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:46.920
<v Speaker 1>but right before the founding of America kind of thing.

1149
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:48.280
<v Speaker 2>So when we're talking about.

1150
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:54.239
<v Speaker 1>These ancient orders from like the Germany, the Bohemians, and

1151
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the ancient orders of the Priesthood from Egypt and and

1152
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.960
<v Speaker 1>all these things, Yeah, the Freemasons aren't as old as

1153
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:03.440
<v Speaker 1>they would want.

1154
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:05.920
<v Speaker 2>People to believe, for sure.

1155
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But all right, So continuing on, so this degree seventeen

1156
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty six. This higher degree, if you will, this degree

1157
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:17.519
<v Speaker 1>was conferred on Blue Lodge masters. However, even if these

1158
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 1>early high degrees were practiced in England, probably under the

1159
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Scottish influence, they grew up and expanded in France. Andrew

1160
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Michael Ramsey, a French speaking Scottish baronet, is likely to

1161
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.840
<v Speaker 1>have been the major firebrand in this movement. In seventeen

1162
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:35.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven he delivered his famous oration in Paris extolling

1163
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the Scottish masonry of the Grand Lodge of Edinburgh, the

1164
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:44.159
<v Speaker 1>ritual of which was more complete, as he said then respectively,

1165
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in the first, second, and third Grand Masters of the

1166
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Grand Lodge of France were Catholics and Jacobites. For those

1167
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.800
<v Speaker 1>who don't know what a Jacobite is, if you've ever

1168
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>seen Outlander, they do a pretty good job of explaining it.

1169
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.400
<v Speaker 1>But basically, the Jacobite revolution, and it wasn't justin Scotland,

1170
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:05.400
<v Speaker 1>there was other Jacobethan movements across Europe. Essentially, they wanted

1171
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:08.880
<v Speaker 1>to install the true heir of Scotland back on the

1172
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:12.320
<v Speaker 1>throne in the form of Bonnie Prince Charlie.

1173
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 2>His dad was the king. He got usurped.

1174
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Basically, or I forget if it was he was usurped,

1175
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 1>or if basically they handed the reigns of Scotland to

1176
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the English king until Charlie was old enough to reign,

1177
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and then the king said no, I'm never given this

1178
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.320
<v Speaker 1>back kind of thing. But either way it goes. The

1179
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Jacobite rebellion that took place was basically the end of

1180
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the Highland way of life for Scotland. No longer would

1181
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you have clans and war chiefs. Now you would have

1182
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:42.760
<v Speaker 1>essentially British nobles that would take over swaths of Scotland.

1183
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 1>And it really became more of a repression of the

1184
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Highland way of life. But the Jacobites also had a

1185
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 1>pretty slizable following in France.

1186
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember hearing about some things.

1187
01:04:55.519 --> 01:05:00.400
<v Speaker 1>In Belgium. I remember hearing about something in the Lens,

1188
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:03.840
<v Speaker 1>But at that point it's more like where we draw

1189
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 1>in the line between legend and law and historical fact,

1190
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:08.679
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But anyway, so he gave

1191
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.760
<v Speaker 1>his his oration in Paris, and so, like they said,

1192
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Lodge in France were Catholics and Jacobites. Meanwhile,

1193
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.840
<v Speaker 1>in England they were more of the Protestant movement. The

1194
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Jacobites are likely to have been men of goodwill, wishing

1195
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.159
<v Speaker 1>to establish some order within masonry and create a new

1196
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 1>spiritual and chivalrc ethic in society, and thereby escaped the

1197
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:35.280
<v Speaker 1>papal condemnation of the seventeen thirty eight. Whatever the validity

1198
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:40.119
<v Speaker 1>of the Jacobite theory, the many interpretations of Hiram Abyff's legend,

1199
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and the more mystical nature of the third degree had

1200
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:46.639
<v Speaker 1>already triggered the creation of over thirty five quote unquote

1201
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:52.159
<v Speaker 1>high degrees in the mid seventeen thirties. So how do

1202
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:56.360
<v Speaker 1>we go from three degrees to allegedly thirty five. Well,

1203
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.880
<v Speaker 1>let's just say, egos a bitch. And you have this

1204
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:05.760
<v Speaker 1>guy who's claiming, oh well, I just achieved the highest degree.

1205
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm a third level. Oh really, that's so interesting. I

1206
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.000
<v Speaker 1>just achieved five. I didn't even know there was five.

1207
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Well you wouldn't, oh my gosh.

1208
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 3>So they just were pissing contests of one upping each

1209
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:19.440
<v Speaker 3>other to get to the highest level.

1210
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:21.119
<v Speaker 1>That's it, that's essentially.

1211
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:24.400
<v Speaker 3>And so how do we turn from this which didn't

1212
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.840
<v Speaker 3>sound honestly that terrible, Like when you're reading the top

1213
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:33.519
<v Speaker 3>part to the super bad shit that people associate with

1214
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:37.119
<v Speaker 3>the thirty three degrees and like the ones that like

1215
01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:40.079
<v Speaker 3>do some heinous, horrible crap to get to that level.

1216
01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:42.360
<v Speaker 4>How the hell did we go from this to that?

1217
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.039
<v Speaker 1>It's very funny that you would bring this up, because like,

1218
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 1>in just a second, we're going to be talking about

1219
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:50.599
<v Speaker 1>this guy right here, Albert Pike, who was a Confederate general,

1220
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.199
<v Speaker 1>who made it what it was or what it is.

1221
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 2>So let's keep going here.

1222
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:59.280
<v Speaker 1>So Ramsey's seventeen thirty seven oration, widely published in seventeen

1223
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 1>forty one, and its allusions to Knight's crusades, resulted in

1224
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 1>an explosive proliferation of so called Scottish degrees.

1225
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Although they were French products.

1226
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:14.599
<v Speaker 1>So just we're clear there is zero connection from original

1227
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Knights templars to Freemasons.

1228
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.360
<v Speaker 2>But because certain things got.

1229
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Said enough times, people just took it and ran with it,

1230
01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and now it's just seen as documented facts, even though

1231
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.440
<v Speaker 1>not even a little bit. But moving on, at some stage,

1232
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 1>there would be one four hundred and fifty degrees in

1233
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:36.000
<v Speaker 1>use in fifty two Rits covered by seventy five orders.

1234
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Jeez, So keep this in mind. We have two orders.

1235
01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Now we have the.

1236
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Scottish or we have two rights Scottish right in New York.

1237
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1238
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:45.639
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

1239
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:49.119
<v Speaker 1>That's all freemasonry has on the entire earth. And they

1240
01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:53.159
<v Speaker 1>have thirty three degrees. But why did this happen? Well,

1241
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.880
<v Speaker 1>because there was all these crazy degrees, which is also

1242
01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.239
<v Speaker 1>where Whiteside Masonry comes from. We'll get to that towards

1243
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the very end here, fifty two rites. Because everybody wanted

1244
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to start their own thing. They still wanted to be Masons,

1245
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:07.400
<v Speaker 1>but they want to do their own thing with it.

1246
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not of the Scottish brand. I'm of the Bohemian brand,

1247
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:14.920
<v Speaker 1>or I'm of the Romanian brand, or I'm of the Roman.

1248
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Or whatever the case would be.

1249
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.199
<v Speaker 1>You had all these people basically founding without any kind

1250
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<v Speaker 1>of hierarchy to say that that is and is not

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01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:26.000
<v Speaker 1>free and accepted Masons. That's why these charters all have

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01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:29.479
<v Speaker 1>F and AM on their logos. If you ever drive

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01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:33.000
<v Speaker 1>by a Masonic lodge in your local town, you'll see,

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01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, F and AM which stands for Free and

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01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Accepted Masons. Because there's all kinds of Masonic orders out

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01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.000
<v Speaker 1>there that are operating that are not accepted. They are

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01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 1>not true free Masons. They're not actually under the adherents

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01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Grand Lodge. This is where all of this

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01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:56.279
<v Speaker 1>stems from. So then, okay, Albert Pike he utilized various

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01:08:56.319 --> 01:09:01.520
<v Speaker 1>religious traditions, legends, and philosophies to convey universal truths independent

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01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:05.479
<v Speaker 1>of any specific faith. The English rituals, which had dropped

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01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:08.399
<v Speaker 1>a number of the first official mention of Scottish masonry

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01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in France old spiritual traditions that had inspired the cathedral

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01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.359
<v Speaker 1>appeared in seventeen forty three in article twenty of the

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01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Grand Lodge Builders. So Albert Pike basically came in and

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01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:23.640
<v Speaker 1>turned all this chaos into order. He wrote a book

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01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.239
<v Speaker 1>called Morals and Dogma, which we're going to talk about

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01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:29.680
<v Speaker 1>in a bit, where basically this was how Masons were

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01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 1>going to do things moving forward. This is how the

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01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.760
<v Speaker 1>rituals go down, step by step. This is what the

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01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.399
<v Speaker 1>orders are, the rights that are actually accepted, the levels

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01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:43.439
<v Speaker 1>that are actually accepted, all the things, here's the passwords,

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01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.239
<v Speaker 1>here's the handshakes, here's all the things.

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<v Speaker 2>All this other shit's too much.

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01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:49.760
<v Speaker 1>We're losing the plot here this We're gonna get it

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01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:51.600
<v Speaker 1>right back down to the original basis.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, why listen to this person.

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01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Though, because Albert Pike was an extremely influential guy, he

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01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:02.279
<v Speaker 1>was a member of multiple organizations. The two most notable

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01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:06.079
<v Speaker 1>would be the Independent Order of Odd Fellows and the Freemasons,

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01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:10.239
<v Speaker 1>both of which do very esoteric I don't want to

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01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:13.319
<v Speaker 1>use the term black magic because that's not necessarily true here,

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01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 1>but very esoteric philosophical things. And if you ask them, oh,

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01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:19.800
<v Speaker 1>we're here for charity, it's all for a big charity,

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01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 1>cause in reality, they when you look at a lot

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01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of their pledges that they make in the very beginning,

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01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:29.479
<v Speaker 1>it's very much of a spiritual nature. Then when you

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01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:31.439
<v Speaker 1>get to the upper levels, you actually are selling your

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01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 1>soul to Lucifer like by name that's mentioned, which we're

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01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna get to that in a minute. But

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01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:39.279
<v Speaker 1>essentially he's the one that came in, wrote the book

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<v Speaker 1>Morals and Dogma and changed the entire game as far

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01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:46.239
<v Speaker 1>as Freemasonry was concerned. And that was again, that's a

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01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Civil War guy. So a lot of our founding fathers

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01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:54.840
<v Speaker 1>in this country were Freemasons. And this is yeah, yeah,

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01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:57.159
<v Speaker 1>and this is before the accepted rights. They were still

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01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.520
<v Speaker 1>operating when it was all these crazy rights and all

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01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:01.760
<v Speaker 1>these crazy degrees and all this shit were going.

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<v Speaker 3>Before they got into like super super bad shit, right,

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01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 3>so before old boy made it what it is, which

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01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:10.159
<v Speaker 3>is fascinating to me how one person can change the

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01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:13.279
<v Speaker 3>course of history and impact so many people's lives.

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01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:15.119
<v Speaker 1>And most people don't even know who this guy is.

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01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:16.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the crazy part.

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01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Most people.

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01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:21.159
<v Speaker 1>If you've because of you exactly, and this guy is

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01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:24.960
<v Speaker 1>what changed the movers and shakers of the world by

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01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:28.800
<v Speaker 1>writing a couple of publications and no one knows about them.

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01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:34.319
<v Speaker 1>It's mind blowing. Okay, but anyway, anyway, so let's can

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01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:36.439
<v Speaker 1>go in here. So the first official mention we talked

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01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:44.239
<v Speaker 1>about that, Ramsey also extolled the chival chivalric ideal of

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01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:48.520
<v Speaker 1>France's regulations denying any superior powers to the Knights Crusaders,

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01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 1>whose heroic courage had been Scottish Masons over the masters

1314
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:57.279
<v Speaker 1>of Blue lodges. Once again, he just threw that together

1315
01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.239
<v Speaker 1>because that's the legend that he was told.

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01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:00.880
<v Speaker 2>There's zero evidence of that.

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01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:05.079
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, over the energizing and unifying factor of christian

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01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:09.079
<v Speaker 1>the succeeding decades or Christianity, I should say, high degrees

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01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.319
<v Speaker 1>spread over the world, eventually resulting in the progress of

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01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:16.319
<v Speaker 1>civilization of the Western Hemisphere, and in seventeen sixty one

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01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:19.760
<v Speaker 1>A tom Moram though the merging of the Eastern and

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01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Western that's basically what that means refined, received a patent

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01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:28.520
<v Speaker 1>from the highest authorities in Paris cultures. This he thought

1324
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.079
<v Speaker 1>would provide a model for as well as in England,

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01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:35.560
<v Speaker 1>appointing him Grand Inspector, so he became the Guy Masons

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01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.119
<v Speaker 1>as leaders of human society. Ramsey was con or. He

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01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:43.039
<v Speaker 1>was against this and began a chain of events leading

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01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to the creation of Vinced and through or Convinced. I

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01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:48.960
<v Speaker 1>think this is written very strangely.

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01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Wow, like it's look it like split it apart. Ramsey

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01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:54.640
<v Speaker 3>was con this, and it's convinced that though.

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01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like didn't know that spellcheck exists.

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01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, this is from the Grand Lodge.

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01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:03.479
<v Speaker 1>This is one of their documents.

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01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 3>But okay, wow, super consolidation of both mystical and crusade.

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01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's where you're at.

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01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the consolidation of both mystical mystical and a

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01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:19.000
<v Speaker 1>cascade of Deputy Inspector generals in New York and chivalric virtues.

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01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:22.920
<v Speaker 1>The Masons would uh the mason's mind would more. In

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01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:27.199
<v Speaker 1>seventeen sixty eight, three brothers, including Moses Michael Hayes, easily

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01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 1>regained the wisdom and love of its original divine and

1342
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a businessman of Dutch parentage, were empowered nature that makes

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01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:36.600
<v Speaker 1>no sense to confer all degrees in the West Indies

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01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and North America. In seventeen eighty one, Hayes commissioned eight

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01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:43.840
<v Speaker 1>brothers to establish Moran's Right in the US of these

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01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:47.560
<v Speaker 1>barren m continue. Okay, I don't know what all that's about.

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01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:51.640
<v Speaker 1>This is written very strangely, but anyway, so that is

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01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the history of how the Freemasons

1349
01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.720
<v Speaker 1>got from a stone Mason's guild. Somehow a Knight's templar

1350
01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 1>connection got thrown in the mix because fuck it, and

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01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.680
<v Speaker 1>then into the public zeitgeist of what we have now.

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01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk more specifically about the Knight's templars. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is from the York Right, the York Right of

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01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Freemasonry official information. These are some other logos you've probably

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01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:20.720
<v Speaker 1>seen on the back of cars, right, So this logo

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01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 1>they're square and compass with the g This is what

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01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:26.319
<v Speaker 1>you would see or what's called a blue side mason. Okay,

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01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>then you have or you see this, and it's called

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01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a blue lodge. Essentially, it is a lodge where you're

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01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:36.000
<v Speaker 1>only going through the first three degrees of masonry and

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01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:39.199
<v Speaker 1>that's about it. Then there is this emblem here and

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01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>this is what you might call if you see this

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01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:45.079
<v Speaker 1>on a sign, as a red lodge. This is where

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01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Knights templars are created as far as the Freemasons are concerned. Right,

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01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:52.560
<v Speaker 1>then when you get to a certain level within that

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01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:53.319
<v Speaker 1>you see this.

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01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 2>This is what you may hear a term called a

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01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:56.920
<v Speaker 2>purple lodge.

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01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.880
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of a like a nickname given, but that's

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01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:03.000
<v Speaker 1>not an actually accepted term. But essentially it is all

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01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.199
<v Speaker 1>still within the realm of the Knights templars. And this

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01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:09.960
<v Speaker 1>is the Free Masonic Knights Templar logo itself.

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01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I've seen really mm hmmm, I've seen quite a few,

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01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:16.800
<v Speaker 2>but okay, okay, fair enough.

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01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:18.880
<v Speaker 4>So I think I've seen the purple one and I've

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01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:20.159
<v Speaker 4>seen the blue one a ton.

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01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you may have seen some of these other ones.

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01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you have, maybe you have not, but uh, these

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01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:27.199
<v Speaker 1>are other logos that you may see.

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01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:31.319
<v Speaker 3>The crown, uh this, uh, this square, I've seen that

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01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:32.239
<v Speaker 3>one with the.

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01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Wreath and the green triangle. The Grand York right bodies

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01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the red Rosicrucian or rose of Cronston.

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01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:41.640
<v Speaker 4>I've seen that one.

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01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:45.000
<v Speaker 1>This is also a symbol for the Hermitic or a

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01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.520
<v Speaker 1>tree of life. This one is talking about how they're

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01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:51.000
<v Speaker 1>all knights, templars of the USA, Cryptic Mason's jurisdictions.

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01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, these are These are just more logos that

1389
01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:54.680
<v Speaker 2>you might see.

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01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I've seen a couple of those, but some of those

1391
01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.439
<v Speaker 3>I really haven't seen. But I've seen a couple of

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01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:01.359
<v Speaker 3>those throughout like down here, and I've seen a lot of.

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01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:02.319
<v Speaker 4>Them on their hats.

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01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:05.720
<v Speaker 3>So, or they'll hand out the pins, or they have

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01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:07.000
<v Speaker 3>them on the side of the floats.

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01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:12.560
<v Speaker 1>So absolutely absolutely so. Again not to get way too

1398
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:14.720
<v Speaker 1>often too the weeds here, but this is more of

1399
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the emblems you might see. Also, this one, this is

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01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.960
<v Speaker 1>what we would call a keystone or a cornerstone, and

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01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.640
<v Speaker 1>they use this for the the de Molay mark, the

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01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:27.279
<v Speaker 1>children's group of the Freemasons, Like if you're a Freemason

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01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and you want your kid to be associated with the order.

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01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:33.000
<v Speaker 1>They're called the Molayans, named after Jacques de Molay.

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01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Huh So all of those are different groups that are

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01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:40.279
<v Speaker 3>those are part of the fifty two rites that were created.

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01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, no, no, these are accepted these days. These

1408
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:44.840
<v Speaker 1>are accepted. It's like subsets.

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01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:49.720
<v Speaker 3>So you'll have it's like the variation flavors of Christianity.

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01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

1411
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:51.319
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

1412
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:52.680
<v Speaker 2>You'll see some that are like.

1413
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:59.279
<v Speaker 1>The Order of Tall Cedars, the Molayans, the Eastern Star.

1414
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:01.520
<v Speaker 2>All of these are groups.

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01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.079
<v Speaker 4>That are within the Word of Bunker Hill.

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01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Order of the Mystic Time, They.

1417
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Order of the Order of Rainbow.

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01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Order of Rainbow is one. Absolutely that the Shrine Clowns,

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01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 1>that's another one.

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01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now you're just being ridiculous. Daughters of the Nile.

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01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I have heard of White Shine Jerusalem.

1422
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Daughters of the Nile, Order of the Eastern Star, Order

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01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of Amaranth, National National Sojourners Tall.

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01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:34.119
<v Speaker 3>So all these fall under the now recognized way of

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01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:38.239
<v Speaker 3>the Freemasons. So all of them participate in the same rituals.

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01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:43.079
<v Speaker 3>They're just different flavors of it, absolutely, okay. And so

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01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:45.720
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of the ones down here with just

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01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:49.439
<v Speaker 3>the g they're not really like doing anything satanic. They're

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01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:51.239
<v Speaker 3>more or less because I see them out doing a

1430
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:53.760
<v Speaker 3>lot of charity work. I see them out. I've talked

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01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:55.560
<v Speaker 3>to a lot of the guys. They just seem like

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01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:57.560
<v Speaker 3>they're they just want to part of it, be a

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01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:59.760
<v Speaker 3>part of some like boys club essentially.

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01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:06.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's I will say this ninety nine point nine percent.

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01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, listen, but listen, I understand this

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01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that they are going to never do anything evil, like

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01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:21.079
<v Speaker 1>the vast, vast majority of Freemasons, A have never heard

1438
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:24.560
<v Speaker 1>of the crazy shit that so many conspiracy theorists. Well,

1439
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:26.319
<v Speaker 1>they may have heard the conspiracy, but they don't know

1440
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>about Albert Pike's book, right, or they haven't read it

1441
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:31.119
<v Speaker 1>covered they don't read it.

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01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I thought they like had to read it, like this

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01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:36.079
<v Speaker 3>was something that they have to know to be able

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01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to participate.

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01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Not really, I mean you can't.

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01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:41.880
<v Speaker 1>It's recommended that you would read it, but it's not

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01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:44.479
<v Speaker 1>like you don't have to read it to be a

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01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Mason by any means. It's kind of like the Blue Bible.

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01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 1>They have Masonic Bibles that they're not different from regular Bibles.

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01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:55.960
<v Speaker 1>They just have some like marginal notes, and they have

1451
01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.000
<v Speaker 1>some pictures, and they have some things that they draw

1452
01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:01.079
<v Speaker 1>comparisons to Freemasonry from the Bible which again you have

1453
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to you got to really try to see those connections.

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01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:07.640
<v Speaker 1>But whatever, it's not they're not trying to bastardize religion

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01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:13.159
<v Speaker 1>because they are allegedly a non religious organization. It's the

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01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:17.319
<v Speaker 1>ones at the very, very very top that have done

1457
01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:20.079
<v Speaker 1>and are still doing a lot of horrible shit in

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01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:23.199
<v Speaker 1>the name of the organization. But your average guy walking

1459
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:25.760
<v Speaker 1>around with a Masonic ring, even if he's at thirty two,

1460
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:28.840
<v Speaker 1>even is at the thirty second level, he's probably never

1461
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:30.640
<v Speaker 1>done some horrible shit in the name of the Order,

1462
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>the realistic.

1463
01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.439
<v Speaker 3>So what is the third like, what do they have

1464
01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:38.039
<v Speaker 3>to do at the thirty three level specifically.

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01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you bring that up. Let's move forward

1466
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:44.520
<v Speaker 1>in the conversation to Albert Pike. So this is a

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01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:48.920
<v Speaker 1>book that he wrote, the Masonic Formulas and Rituals. This

1468
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 1>is a well, I didn't mean to do that, old up,

1469
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:56.479
<v Speaker 1>old up. This is public but a publication twenty ten

1470
01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Scottish Rite Research Society.

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01:19:58.199 --> 01:19:59.479
<v Speaker 2>So let's read the excerpt.

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01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Here the source of Albert Pike's Ritual Revisions, transcribed from

1473
01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the original copy in the archives vault of the Supreme Council.

1474
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:10.239
<v Speaker 1>This never before published work includes the complete collection of

1475
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>rituals which Albert Pike received when he joined the Scottish

1476
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Right in eighteen fifty three. After receiving the degrees, Pike

1477
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:19.239
<v Speaker 1>borrowed the manuscript rituals and over the next two years

1478
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 1>he transcribed his own copies. He later used these texts

1479
01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:25.479
<v Speaker 1>to create his revision of the Scottish Right rituals. This

1480
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:29.079
<v Speaker 1>book answered the question what was the Scottish Right like

1481
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:34.159
<v Speaker 1>before Albert Pike? So before he did anything, you could

1482
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:36.039
<v Speaker 1>see a whole lot of symbolism, a whole lot of

1483
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.239
<v Speaker 1>occult symbolism on this because it essentially was like the

1484
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Hermetic orders. It was looking at philosophical and esoteric and

1485
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:50.840
<v Speaker 1>in some cases magic with a K principles. So contents

1486
01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:54.279
<v Speaker 1>include three craft degrees from the early French source, all

1487
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Scottish rights rituals, the Adoniramite write, the degrees of Knighthood,

1488
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:03.199
<v Speaker 1>the true Masonry of adoption and the Androgynists adoptive Right,

1489
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and so much more. Includes original drawings and Masonic ciphers

1490
01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:13.199
<v Speaker 1>from Pike. An introduction by ill ill Illustrious brother de

1491
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Hooyas provides insight into these rituals and the ritual development

1492
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Scottish, right. So anyway, this book kind of

1493
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:25.279
<v Speaker 1>talks about freemasonry before Albert Pike, but let's talk about

1494
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Albert Pike in specific.

1495
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:28.560
<v Speaker 2>So who is this guy?

1496
01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:33.159
<v Speaker 1>How did he get so, you know, ostensibly the key

1497
01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:36.920
<v Speaker 1>figure in what we would now call freemasonry. So Albert Pike,

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01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:40.880
<v Speaker 1>who alive eighteen oh nine to eighteen ninety one. He

1499
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:43.199
<v Speaker 1>was a lawyer who played a major role in the

1500
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 1>development of early counts of Arkansas and played an active

1501
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>role in the.

1502
01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:48.560
<v Speaker 2>State's politics prior to the Civil War.

1503
01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:51.319
<v Speaker 1>He was also a central figure in the development of

1504
01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Masonry in the state and later became a national leader

1505
01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 1>of that organization. So during the Civil War he commanded

1506
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the Confederacy the Confederate's Indian territory, raising troops there and

1507
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:06.520
<v Speaker 1>exercising field command in one battle. He also was a

1508
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:09.439
<v Speaker 1>talented poet and writer, which would go into him writing

1509
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>these books. Also him being a lawyer, he was a wordsmith,

1510
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:17.359
<v Speaker 1>if you will. It's also worth noting he was a

1511
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Confederate and his statue was taken down in Washington, d C.

1512
01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:23.840
<v Speaker 2>At one point in time, just a.

1513
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Few years ago, and your boy Donnie t made sure

1514
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.479
<v Speaker 1>that that statue got put back up.

1515
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>It's worth mentioning anyway.

1516
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.479
<v Speaker 3>Was he like a horrible human being? Well, obviously with

1517
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:38.119
<v Speaker 3>what he wrote, but like he was what he did.

1518
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>He was a Confederate general who wanted to keep slavery

1519
01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and was very clear about the fact that they are

1520
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>worshiping Lucifer.

1521
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.439
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know it's the red flags just keep popping

1522
01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:51.560
<v Speaker 3>up with good old Donnie T.

1523
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:52.720
<v Speaker 4>There's so many.

1524
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't even know if Donny T even

1525
01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:57.880
<v Speaker 1>knew that about Albert Pike or not. I'm not out

1526
01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:00.319
<v Speaker 1>of one now. I don't think he's like the artist

1527
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>dude on Earth.

1528
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't think that he's that stupid at all,

1529
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:07.279
<v Speaker 3>but I am, but I am curious to see what

1530
01:23:07.319 --> 01:23:10.359
<v Speaker 3>this whole Epstein situation with Malania coming out on National

1531
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:14.079
<v Speaker 3>TV yesterday and saying that, hey, by the way, we're

1532
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:18.720
<v Speaker 3>doing this, and it's like, ooh, we're okay, they're gonna

1533
01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:21.239
<v Speaker 3>look in They're going to forcibly look into the Epstein

1534
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:24.800
<v Speaker 3>files because there is more people connected than just Epstein.

1535
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll see, which we've been saying that, but anyway,

1536
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:30.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to we'll do it.

1537
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:32.840
<v Speaker 4>That's a whole episode in and of itself.

1538
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:36.239
<v Speaker 3>But for him to put this man, this piece of

1539
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:37.640
<v Speaker 3>shit statue back up.

1540
01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, you can't just say that he didn't know

1541
01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:41.720
<v Speaker 4>about it.

1542
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>So you got to keep in mind how much money

1543
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the Masons have to throw around, and it's very possible

1544
01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:50.079
<v Speaker 1>that enough Masons threw enough money into his fund. Trump's

1545
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>fun to be like, hey, you know, it'd be really

1546
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>cool as if you put up our patron homie back up.

1547
01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And maybe you know, listen, I heard he was a

1548
01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty good guy. I don't know they say that, some

1549
01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:03.319
<v Speaker 1>people say that I don't know, but sure it's a

1550
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:04.079
<v Speaker 1>fucking statue.

1551
01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:05.039
<v Speaker 2>What difference does it make?

1552
01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:07.199
<v Speaker 1>I could see that being a part of the conversation too,

1553
01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>or I very well knew exactly what this was and

1554
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, we need that guy back. I don't know.

1555
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm totally gonna buy the book because I want to

1556
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:20.159
<v Speaker 3>read it. Yep, all right, I already found it while

1557
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:22.640
<v Speaker 3>we were talking. I found I found a nineteen oh

1558
01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:23.319
<v Speaker 3>six version.

1559
01:24:23.439 --> 01:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I got to pull it up right here, which we're

1560
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about more and some of the quotes from it,

1561
01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>some of the more.

1562
01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:30.479
<v Speaker 3>I want to actually like get my hands on a

1563
01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:32.239
<v Speaker 3>copy of it because I want to see.

1564
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so all right, So moving on. Albert Pike was

1565
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>born in Boston, Massachusetts, eighteen oh nine. He was one

1566
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of six children of a cobbler, and his mom was Sarah.

1567
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:45.399
<v Speaker 2>He attended public school in Byfield.

1568
01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Newbury Port and uh Farm Framington, Framingham Jesus, Massachusetts. Here

1569
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>receees an education that provided him with the background in

1570
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>classical and contemporary literature and in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek.

1571
01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Now I remember we've talked about that in this day.

1572
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>If you could speak English, fine, whatever, Latin, or you're

1573
01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:07.079
<v Speaker 1>educated Greek. Oh, you've got a high level of education.

1574
01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew. Oh you're clearly like a doctorate at something.

1575
01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Obviously clearly his word is like law.

1576
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Not many people had the knowledge of all four of

1577
01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>those languages. So this, that right off the rip, tells

1578
01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>you this guy.

1579
01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Was educated, educated.

1580
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>He passed cobbler though, yeah, you wouldn't think, yeah.

1581
01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:28.880
<v Speaker 4>Like a cobbler and like that.

1582
01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:32.319
<v Speaker 3>How and why I'm curious how that happened in one

1583
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:35.960
<v Speaker 3>of six like they normally that doesn't you wouldn't get

1584
01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:37.279
<v Speaker 3>that kind of level education.

1585
01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about it further. Because he stopped off at.

1586
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Harvard, he passed the examination required for entry into Harvard

1587
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>when he was just sixteen. However, he was unable to

1588
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>pay the tuition at Harvard, and he began to teach,

1589
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:54.319
<v Speaker 1>working at schools in newbury Port, near Gloucester, and Fairhaven

1590
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>later in his life. In eighteen fifty nine, he earned

1591
01:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.199
<v Speaker 1>an honorary Master of Arts degree from Harvard for his

1592
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>deep scholarship. So he independently, on his own studied these things,

1593
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>even though he didn't have a classic education. He could

1594
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>have gone to Harvard if he could afford it, but

1595
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>his dad made shoes.

1596
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:14.239
<v Speaker 2>He was one of six kids. Yeah, you know, they

1597
01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:15.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't have the money for that.

1598
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:18.479
<v Speaker 4>So when he was fifty he earned it all right.

1599
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:21.439
<v Speaker 1>And this is after the whole Civil War, I actually know,

1600
01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>right before it. So he began to write poetry as

1601
01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a young man, which he continued to do for the

1602
01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>rest of his life, and when he was twenty three

1603
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>he published his first poem, Hymns to the Gods. Subsequent

1604
01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:35.439
<v Speaker 1>poems appeared in contemporary literary sources such as Blackwood's Edinburgh

1605
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Magazine and local newspapers. His first collection of poetry, prose

1606
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>sketches and poems written in the Western Country appeared in

1607
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:46.119
<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty four. He later gathered many of his poems

1608
01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and republished them in Hymns of the Gods and other poems.

1609
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>After his death, these appeared again in General Albert Pike's

1610
01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>poems Lyrics and Love Songs. Wow. So Pike left Massachusetts

1611
01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>for Santa Fe in what was then Mexico in eighteen

1612
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:04.039
<v Speaker 1>thirty one, one of the many time one of many

1613
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:07.479
<v Speaker 1>at the time attracted to the developing West. From Santa Fe,

1614
01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>he joined an expedition to the lands around the headwaters

1615
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:13.479
<v Speaker 1>of the Arkansas and Red Rivers. Somewhere along the route,

1616
01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:16.239
<v Speaker 1>he left his expedition and walked to Fort Smith. He

1617
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:19.079
<v Speaker 1>taught there in rural schools for a short time, but

1618
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.079
<v Speaker 1>his literary skills early evolved him in Arkansas politics.

1619
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>He could read pretty good.

1620
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>In eighteen thirty three, he published in local newspapers letters

1621
01:27:29.960 --> 01:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in support of Robert Crittenden's candidacy for territorial delegate to Congress.

1622
01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>The anonymous letters, signed Casco after one of the Roman

1623
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>politicians who assassinated Julius Caesar, were considered very persuasive and

1624
01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>secured him for a statewide reputation as a writer.

1625
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:51.039
<v Speaker 2>They also attracted attention from Charles.

1626
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Bertrand, owner of the Whig Party Arkansas Advocate, who invited

1627
01:27:55.359 --> 01:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Pike to Little Rock's Pulaski's County to work as the editor.

1628
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Pike accepted the job and moved to the capital city,

1629
01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:06.479
<v Speaker 1>and while working for The Advocate, Pike published a series

1630
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>of stories and poems about his adventures in New Mexico.

1631
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>The material later published in The pro Stories and Poems

1632
01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Written in the Western Country. In addition to editing the paper,

1633
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:18.479
<v Speaker 1>Pike secured additional work in Little Rock as a clerk

1634
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in the Legislator. He married a woman on October tenth,

1635
01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty four. The couple also had six children, so

1636
01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>what this woman brought to the marriage was considerable financial resources,

1637
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:34.239
<v Speaker 1>and she helped Pike purchase an intent an interest in

1638
01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>The Advocate from Bertrand in eighteen thirty four.

1639
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.119
<v Speaker 2>The next year he became its sole proprietor.

1640
01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Pike studied law while editing the newspaper, ultimately passing the

1641
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas Bar exam in either eighteen thirty six or eighteen

1642
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven. In the later year or the latter year,

1643
01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:52.119
<v Speaker 1>he sold the newspaper and devoted his time to the law.

1644
01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>He demonstrated considerable legal prowess early and represented clients and

1645
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>courts at every level level, including the United States Supreme Court,

1646
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:04.039
<v Speaker 1>which he received permission to practice before in eighteen forty nine.

1647
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:07.079
<v Speaker 1>So this dude was making his way in the world,

1648
01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:12.159
<v Speaker 1>married into some way. I was, he's smart, Like, he's

1649
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.399
<v Speaker 1>just a smart dude. He reads all this literature, making

1650
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>some very lucrative business deals happen. He's killing it. He's

1651
01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:21.199
<v Speaker 1>absolutely killing it. And then on top of that, he's

1652
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a lawyer. So Pike developed a lucrative law practice, and

1653
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:27.279
<v Speaker 1>his clients included many of the tribes of the Indian Territory.

1654
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Among his clients at that time were the Creek, Muskogee

1655
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and Chucktaw, whom he represented in a case against the

1656
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>US government that secured payment for the lands taken in

1657
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the Treaty of Fort Jackson in eighteen fourteen. Pike learned

1658
01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:43.119
<v Speaker 1>several Native American dialects while working as their attorney.

1659
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:45.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the dude, damn old boy was really smart.

1660
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:47.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean you're talking like that's like at least six

1661
01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:50.520
<v Speaker 3>or seven languages that he, yeah, like was able to

1662
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:51.239
<v Speaker 3>speak and read.

1663
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:53.199
<v Speaker 2>We're talking pre Civil War.

1664
01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You got the US government to actually pay the natives

1665
01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:58.039
<v Speaker 1>for the land they stole.

1666
01:29:58.760 --> 01:29:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Ah.

1667
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:02.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, homeboy was perspasive by lah.

1668
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, that man had the words for sure.

1669
01:30:07.079 --> 01:30:08.760
<v Speaker 4>That's probably why he picked the old girl because she

1670
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:09.279
<v Speaker 4>had money.

1671
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he knew what he was doing. Yes. So from

1672
01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:15.439
<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty six eighteen forty four, Pike was the first

1673
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:18.439
<v Speaker 1>reporter to the Arkansas Supreme Court, charged with writing notes

1674
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:21.279
<v Speaker 1>on the relevant points in court decisions. He published the

1675
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Index Court's Opinions. In eighteen forty two, he published the

1676
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas Form Book, a tool for lawyers providing models for

1677
01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the different kinds of motions to be filed in the

1678
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:32.199
<v Speaker 1>state courts. His reputation as an attorney also secured him

1679
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>an appointment of receiver for the failed Arkansas State Bank

1680
01:30:36.359 --> 01:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen forty. As receiver, he attempted to collect the

1681
01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>debts owed to that institution, and at the same time,

1682
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the fees he received for the work were lucrative and

1683
01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:49.239
<v Speaker 1>secured his fortune. So, oh, poor son of a cobbler

1684
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that couldn't get into Harvard because he couldn't pay the tuition.

1685
01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>He found a gold mine in all ar Kansas.

1686
01:30:57.119 --> 01:30:58.399
<v Speaker 4>Before he was even fifty.

1687
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and Dition As ambition public figure, Pike joined Order

1688
01:31:03.640 --> 01:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>others in eighteen forty five and supporting actions against Mexico

1689
01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>what became the Mexican War. He helped raise Little Rock Guards,

1690
01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>a company incorporated into the Arkansas Cavalry Regiment of Colonel

1691
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Archibald Yell, and served as a captain. Pike concluded early

1692
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>on that the senior officers of the regiment were incompetent,

1693
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and he shared his observations with people back in Arkansas

1694
01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>through letters and newspapers. Following the Battle for Buenavista, he

1695
01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>leveled particularly harsh criticisms against Lieutenant Colonel John Selden Rohne.

1696
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:36.079
<v Speaker 1>After the publication of a particularly victoroulic letter by Pike

1697
01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:39.439
<v Speaker 1>in the Arkansas Gazette, Ron demanded that Pike apologize or

1698
01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>give him satisfaction, which sounds like a duel. Pike refused

1699
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:47.319
<v Speaker 1>to apologize, and the two fought in the duel hey

1700
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>near Fort Smith, on a sand bank in the Arkansas River,

1701
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and the exchange of fire neither hit his antagonists, and

1702
01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the two were persuaded to halt the duel with honor satisfied. Yeah,

1703
01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>duels back in the day very rarely actually Indian death.

1704
01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>More often than not, you would just take a shot

1705
01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to just like prove your metal, so to speak, prove

1706
01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're a man and you're actually about that life.

1707
01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>More often than not, they would just fire into the

1708
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:11.279
<v Speaker 1>air or something.

1709
01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:12.359
<v Speaker 2>It was all for show.

1710
01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyway. Returning from Mexico, Pike re established his law practice.

1711
01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>He promoted the construction of trans Continental Railroad from New

1712
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Orleans to the Pacific Coast, writing numerous newspaper essays urging

1713
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:27.239
<v Speaker 1>support for the project. He moved to New Orleans in

1714
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty three to further his railroad activities, although he

1715
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:35.119
<v Speaker 1>also continued to practice law. He translated French legal volumes

1716
01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>into English while preparing to pass the local bar exam

1717
01:32:37.720 --> 01:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>for Louisiana. Now that's interesting also because Louisiana operates under

1718
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Napoleonic law, not common law like the rest of the

1719
01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>United States. So it's an entirely different bar that has

1720
01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:50.159
<v Speaker 1>to be done here. Like I understand each state has

1721
01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:53.079
<v Speaker 1>their own bar, but like it's different law that you

1722
01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have to apply when you study for Louisiana bar exam.

1723
01:32:55.960 --> 01:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, ultimately he successfully obtained h charter from the

1724
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Louisiana legislator for one of his railroad projects, and he

1725
01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:06.239
<v Speaker 1>returned to Little Rock in eighteen fifty seven. In the

1726
01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 1>years immediately following the Mexican Civil or the Mexican War,

1727
01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Pike's concern with the developing six sectional crisis brought on

1728
01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:15.199
<v Speaker 1>by the issue of slavery became apparent.

1729
01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>He had long been a.

1730
01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Whig, which for those it's the Whig and the big parties,

1731
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:22.079
<v Speaker 1>this was the conservative and liberals of the day and

1732
01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>age like we have Republican and Democrat now. But anyway,

1733
01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>but the Whig Party repeatedly refused to address the slavery issue.

1734
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:32.359
<v Speaker 1>The failure in Pike's own anti Catholicism led him to

1735
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:37.039
<v Speaker 1>join the No Nothing Party upon its creation. The No

1736
01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Nothing Party was a third option that started to gain traction.

1737
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But I should also mention before we go any further,

1738
01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the first third party option in the United States was

1739
01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:58.039
<v Speaker 1>the Anti Masonic Party. Wait, so, if you go back

1740
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:01.119
<v Speaker 1>in time, and it doesn't matter, even seventeen seventy six,

1741
01:34:01.840 --> 01:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>we have primarily always been a two party country right right, left, conservative, uh, liberal,

1742
01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to say, and they've had different monikers

1743
01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>for years on that the first third party to actually

1744
01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>be registered and actually get a little bit of traction.

1745
01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Was the Anti Masonic Party.

1746
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine that everybody's like, man, fuck the Republicans,

1747
01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:29.119
<v Speaker 1>fuck the Democrats, that's not the point.

1748
01:34:29.199 --> 01:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>We need to get these fucking Masons out of here.

1749
01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Like that. They did that to the tune of having

1750
01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:36.720
<v Speaker 1>whole political party associated with it.

1751
01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe they felt very inclined that the Masons were

1752
01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:43.279
<v Speaker 3>doing some shady shit.

1753
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:45.439
<v Speaker 1>They just wanted to get the old boys club out

1754
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. Like the whole point of America being founded

1755
01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>was to leave aristocracy and nobility back in Europe. Yet

1756
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>somehow we now have one with the Masonic League, and

1757
01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like it didn't matter if you were on one

1758
01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:57.720
<v Speaker 1>side of the aisle or the other. All of them

1759
01:34:57.720 --> 01:34:58.319
<v Speaker 1>were homies.

1760
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're all boys club exactly.

1761
01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:03.159
<v Speaker 1>So the Anti Masonic Party started as a way to

1762
01:35:03.199 --> 01:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>try to shirk that. It didn't go far, but that

1763
01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>was if anybody wants to look that up. So anyway,

1764
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Pike then joined the Know Nothing Party upon its creation

1765
01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen fifty six. He attended the new party's national convention,

1766
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>but he found it equally reluctant to adopt a strong

1767
01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>pro slavery platform. A strong pro slavery platform. Just we're

1768
01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>all clear of where he's at.

1769
01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:25.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm so confused.

1770
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:30.239
<v Speaker 3>He represented Native Americans and helped them like actually gain

1771
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:32.640
<v Speaker 3>traction and get lamp back and all of these things

1772
01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:37.800
<v Speaker 3>came down to the Louisiana got the bar and all this,

1773
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:40.880
<v Speaker 3>and then was still pro slave.

1774
01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1775
01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it makes no sense to me.

1776
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Because they had some feelings towards the black population at

1777
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:51.199
<v Speaker 1>that time, and yeah, they had some feelings towards the natives,

1778
01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:54.079
<v Speaker 1>but like they're not black though.

1779
01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:58.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean it depends, I guess on what state you're in,

1780
01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:01.319
<v Speaker 3>because some of them were just even worse to the

1781
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:03.920
<v Speaker 3>native population, so worse.

1782
01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but there's very little evidence that Native Americans were slaves.

1783
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>There was attempts, there was absolutely attempts to enslave the

1784
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Native population. They did not God, there's no way to

1785
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>say this.

1786
01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:19.000
<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna move on. No, no, we're just gonna move

1787
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:19.560
<v Speaker 4>on from that.

1788
01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>They didn't do well like as slaves. And I'm not

1789
01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>saying that to say like, oh, well they weren't good, No, no, no, no.

1790
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:35.479
<v Speaker 1>They they were still battling a lot of sicknesses that

1791
01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the white man brought over to this continent. Meanwhile, black

1792
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>people had developed inoculation in Africa, like there's a long

1793
01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>list of reasons. But Native American slaves did not go

1794
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>too well. So that's why instead of enslaving them, they

1795
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:52.479
<v Speaker 1>just kept kicking them more west and put them on reservations.

1796
01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>So that's what that's about.

1797
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>So and for the record, his own anti Catholicism here

1798
01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that also meant very anti cath which we talked about

1799
01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:05.399
<v Speaker 1>very anti Irish. Excuse me, very anti Irish, very anti Italian.

1800
01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:08.119
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't just black people that he had an

1801
01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:11.039
<v Speaker 1>issue with. He was like, okay with the natives, but

1802
01:37:11.079 --> 01:37:14.079
<v Speaker 1>he didn't think that they were like equal. Yeah, like,

1803
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:17.359
<v Speaker 1>let's not be crazy here, rave and they're not. They're

1804
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:21.119
<v Speaker 1>not white. So but they were able to pay him

1805
01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>for his legal services, and that green mattered more at

1806
01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the time, I should say gold. Gold mattered more than

1807
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>skin color at that point, so is what it is.

1808
01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.399
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he had a real issue with the black population,

1809
01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. He had an issue with the Catholics,

1810
01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:41.159
<v Speaker 1>all these things. So he joined other Southern delegates in

1811
01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:44.760
<v Speaker 1>walking out of the convention. Pike expressed a belief that

1812
01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in states' rights and considered succession constitutional. He philosophically supported secession,

1813
01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>demonstrating his position in eighteen sixty one when he published

1814
01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the pamphlet titled State or Province, Bond or Free. In

1815
01:37:57.880 --> 01:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty one, the Arkansas State Secession Convention named Pike

1816
01:38:01.960 --> 01:38:05.199
<v Speaker 1>its Commissioner to Indian Territory and authorized him to negotiate

1817
01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>treaties with various tribes. As a result of this of

1818
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>his experience there, the Confederate War Department appointed him a

1819
01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>brigadier general in the Confederate Army in August eighteen sixty

1820
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>one and assigned him to the Department of the Indian Territory.

1821
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Pike assisted the tribes that supported the Confederacy in raising regiments.

1822
01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>He believed that these units would be critical to protecting

1823
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the territory from the Union incursion, but his belief that

1824
01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 1>the Indian units should be kept in Indian territory brought

1825
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:35.199
<v Speaker 1>him into early conflict with his superiors. In the spring

1826
01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>of eighteen sixty two, General Earl Van Dorn ordered him

1827
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.119
<v Speaker 1>to bring his twenty five hundred Indian troops into northwestern Arkansas.

1828
01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Despite his opposition of the move, Pike obeyed, and his

1829
01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Indian forces of about nine hundred men joined the Confederate

1830
01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>forces in northwest Arkansas on March seventh and eight, eighteen

1831
01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty two. They participated in the Battle of p Ridge

1832
01:38:55.079 --> 01:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>aka Elkhorn Tavern, led by Pike. Pike proved a poor leader,

1833
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and he failed to keep his force engaged with the

1834
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>enemy or in check. Charges circulated widely that the men

1835
01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>had stopped their advance to take scalps. After the Battlepike

1836
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and his men returned to Indian Territory. So he proved

1837
01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to be a pretty a shitty battlefield commander. And I

1838
01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>mean to be honest, right, obviously he's a book nerd.

1839
01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>He's not a military guy. But also it kind of

1840
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>sucks whenever you get your boys that you got to

1841
01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>join and instead of like holding a line and advancing

1842
01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:38.119
<v Speaker 1>a charge and all this stuff, they start scalping the

1843
01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>dudes they just killed. And it's like, no, no, we

1844
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:42.039
<v Speaker 1>got to keep pushing. I need a scalp, dude, what

1845
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about. I'm not going up there. I

1846
01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>gotta get this scout first, then we proceed. It's like

1847
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:50.119
<v Speaker 1>the Native Americans and the white man fought wars very differently,

1848
01:39:50.439 --> 01:39:53.159
<v Speaker 1>which is why the Natives gave the white guy so

1849
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>much hell whenever they were doing like guerrilla warfare tactics.

1850
01:39:55.680 --> 01:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so anyway, moving on, opposition to Confederate policy

1851
01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:03.119
<v Speaker 1>over Indian territory would continue to be a source of

1852
01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>conflict between Pike and his superiors. Unhappy with Pike, in

1853
01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:09.479
<v Speaker 1>the summer of eighteen sixty two, General Thomas Henman, commander

1854
01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:12.079
<v Speaker 1>of the Confederate forces in Arkansas, attempted to extend his

1855
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>authority over the territory. Pike responded by issuing a circular

1856
01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:19.119
<v Speaker 1>that refused to surrender control and charged him with trying

1857
01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to replace constitutional government with despotism, so him being a

1858
01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>good writer and being able to spend a narrative that

1859
01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:30.159
<v Speaker 1>really played to his favor multiple times. Ultimately, the dispute

1860
01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:33.399
<v Speaker 1>between the two went to the Confederate authorities at Richmond.

1861
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:36.760
<v Speaker 1>The authorities decided in favor of him in and reprimanded

1862
01:40:36.800 --> 01:40:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Pike on July twelve. Pike resigned from his position in protests.

1863
01:40:40.319 --> 01:40:44.479
<v Speaker 1>With his resignation, Pike retired to Greasy Cove at Montgomery County,

1864
01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was appointed as a judge of the state

1865
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court in eighteen sixty four, but little is known

1866
01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of his activities in court. At the end of the

1867
01:40:52.239 --> 01:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Civil War, Pike moved to New York and then for

1868
01:40:54.399 --> 01:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a short time Canada. After receiving amnesty from President Andrew

1869
01:40:57.920 --> 01:41:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Johnson in August eighteen sixty five, he returned for a

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01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>time to Arkansas and resumed his law practice. Eighteen sixty seven,

1871
01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>he moved to Memphis, Tennessee, and entered a new law

1872
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:14.079
<v Speaker 1>partnership with General Charles Adams. He was also editing Memphis Appeal.

1873
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:16.159
<v Speaker 1>It was the paper at the time. He may have

1874
01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>been involved in the organization of the KKK at this time.

1875
01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, who could have seen that come in.

1876
01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Let's also not negate the fact that on top of

1877
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:27.720
<v Speaker 1>writing the book for Morals and Dogma, on top of

1878
01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:31.199
<v Speaker 1>being very well versed in all the esoteric things, he

1879
01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:33.880
<v Speaker 1>was also one of the founding fucking members of the Klan.

1880
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:40.399
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean it's I mean, it's pretty obvious

1881
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:42.760
<v Speaker 3>that he would have been, especially how he reacted to

1882
01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:47.600
<v Speaker 3>anything that wasn't pro owning slaves. So yeah, you know,

1883
01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>his thing should have been taken down and should stay down.

1884
01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I agree the piece of shit. I fully agree there.

1885
01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>He was engaged for a time in politics, editing the Patriot,

1886
01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a Democrat newspaper for the record, the Democrat Party has

1887
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:07.319
<v Speaker 1>always and still is the party of racism start to finish.

1888
01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>From eighteen sixty eight to eighteen seventy he also practiced

1889
01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:15.039
<v Speaker 1>law in partnership with Robert Johnson, former US Senator until

1890
01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty. Although less interested in Arkansas affairs, one of

1891
01:42:18.239 --> 01:42:20.359
<v Speaker 1>his last major roles in the state would be his

1892
01:42:20.439 --> 01:42:24.039
<v Speaker 1>support to the administration of President Ulysses S. Grant of

1893
01:42:24.079 --> 01:42:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Elijah Baxter claiming for the governorship of eighteen seventy four.

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01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Moving forward here. After ceasing practicing law, Pike's real interest

1895
01:42:34.399 --> 01:42:37.399
<v Speaker 1>was the Masonic lodge. He had become a Mason in

1896
01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:40.840
<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty and participated in the creation of the Masonic

1897
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Saint John's College in Little Rock that same year eighteen

1898
01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:48.159
<v Speaker 1>fifty one. He helped form the Grand Chapter of Arkansas

1899
01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and was its Grand High Priest from eighteen fifty three

1900
01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to eighteen fifty four. In eighteen fifty three, he also

1901
01:42:53.800 --> 01:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>associated with the Scottish Right of Masons and rose rapidly

1902
01:42:57.279 --> 01:43:00.199
<v Speaker 1>in the organization, which because he had the money, and

1903
01:43:00.279 --> 01:43:02.479
<v Speaker 1>he was well first, and he was well plugged in,

1904
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>educated all the things, all the things. In eighteen fifty nine,

1905
01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>he was elected Grand Commander of the Supreme Council Southern

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01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Jurisdiction of the United States, the administrative district for all

1907
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:15.439
<v Speaker 1>parts of the country except the fifteen states east of

1908
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the Mississippi River in north of Ohio, and held.

1909
01:43:18.479 --> 01:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>That post until his death.

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01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:23.439
<v Speaker 1>After the war, he devoted much of his time to

1911
01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>rewriting the rituals of Scottish Rite Masons.

1912
01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:27.520
<v Speaker 2>For years.

1913
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:30.720
<v Speaker 1>His Morals and Dogma, which was written in eighteen seventy one,

1914
01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:34.039
<v Speaker 1>still in print, was distributed to members of the Rite.

1915
01:43:34.439 --> 01:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Over his career he published numerous other works on the order,

1916
01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>including Meaning of Masonry, Book of the Words, The Point

1917
01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:45.399
<v Speaker 1>within the Circle. As he aged, he also became interested

1918
01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>in spiritualism, particularly Indian thought and its relationship to Masonry.

1919
01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Late in life, he learned Sanskrit and translated various literary

1920
01:43:54.159 --> 01:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>works in that language. As a result of his work

1921
01:43:57.319 --> 01:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>in this area, he published Indo Aryan Das and worship

1922
01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>as contained in the rig Veda.

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01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So the dude was, Yes, he was a horrible racist.

1924
01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>But he was also very well read and very intelligent

1925
01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:13.399
<v Speaker 1>as far as all these languages were concerned. In transliterating

1926
01:44:13.439 --> 01:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>these books. Pike was much honored after his death. His

1927
01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Masonic brothers erected a statue of him in nineteen oh

1928
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:25.199
<v Speaker 1>one in Washington, d C. Authorities also named the first

1929
01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:30.159
<v Speaker 1>highway between Hot Springs and Colorado Springs, the Albert Pike Highway.

1930
01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>In Colorado, Albert Pike Hotel bears his name, as does

1931
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the Albert Pike Memorial Temple. Both are in Little Rock,

1932
01:44:37.359 --> 01:44:41.399
<v Speaker 1>and his Little Rock home remains standing. Discussions about removing

1933
01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the statue in Washington, d C and other Confederate generals

1934
01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>around the country began in the summer of twenty seventeen,

1935
01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:52.720
<v Speaker 1>following a white supremacist rally at a Confederate monument in Charlottesville, Virginia.

1936
01:44:52.880 --> 01:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>On June nineteen, twenty twenty, the statue was toppled amid

1937
01:44:55.680 --> 01:44:59.039
<v Speaker 1>ongoing protests across the nation. Following the murder of George Floyd.

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01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:03.439
<v Speaker 1>On August four, twenty twenty five. Just last year, y'all,

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01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>it was a few months ago. I actually have time

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01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of recording, the National Park Service announced that the statue

1941
01:45:07.720 --> 01:45:12.479
<v Speaker 1>was being restored for installation. It was reinstalled October twenty fifth,

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01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, despite a shutdown from the federal government.

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01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:20.039
<v Speaker 1>At the time the government shutdown was going on, no

1944
01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>federal employees were getting paid. Yet somehow the National Park

1945
01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Service still found the funds to pay the employees to

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01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>re erect his statue.

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<v Speaker 3>And you want to tell me that it wasn't coincidence, Like,

1948
01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:33.840
<v Speaker 3>come on, now, you saw his body was moved in

1949
01:45:33.960 --> 01:45:36.880
<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty four and put in the temple.

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01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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01:45:38.079 --> 01:45:41.079
<v Speaker 3>They took it from Oak Hill symmetry and then they

1952
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:42.199
<v Speaker 3>put it in the temple.

1953
01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:47.359
<v Speaker 3>No, there's no way that, especially during the shutdown, that

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01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:51.239
<v Speaker 3>this was happening. They weren't aware of what this man did.

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01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:54.159
<v Speaker 3>So we stood for Let's talk a.

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01:45:54.079 --> 01:45:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Little bit about Well, I want to talk about the

1958
01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>legend Hiram Abiff real quick. Let's talk about the book itself,

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01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Moral and Dogma by Albert Pike. So Lucifer gets brought

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01:46:04.239 --> 01:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>up a good bit and he's called the light Bearer,

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01:46:08.119 --> 01:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>the strange and mysterious name to give to the spirit

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01:46:11.319 --> 01:46:14.520
<v Speaker 1>of darkness, Lucifer, the sun of the morning. It is

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01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>he who bears the light and with its splendors, intolerable blinds, feeble, sensual.

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<v Speaker 2>Or selfish souls.

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<v Speaker 1>Doubt it not?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay? What the fuck are we talking about here. If

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01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:29.319
<v Speaker 1>two Masons meet each other and they're in public and

1969
01:46:29.359 --> 01:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't know each other, but they see the logos

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01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you might hear them say, oh, okay, I

1971
01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>see you're a fellow traveler, and what that means is

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01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:41.159
<v Speaker 1>you are traveling, and you'll they'll ask you what direction

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01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:45.119
<v Speaker 1>are you traveling? Right? Because that also goes into one

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01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>of the the vows that they take upon joining Free Masonry.

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01:46:50.039 --> 01:46:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I state your name traveling from the west to the east,

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01:46:53.880 --> 01:46:57.600
<v Speaker 1>seeking the light and the illumination, because the sun rises

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01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:01.720
<v Speaker 1>in the east. Right. So if you have a Mason

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01:47:01.800 --> 01:47:05.199
<v Speaker 1>saying which to which direction you're traveling, typically they'll say, oh,

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01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you know me, man, I'm traveling east, because they're traveling

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01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>towards the light.

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01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, if you'll get one of the older.

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01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Cats, one of the more quote unquote illuminated Masons, i e.

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01:47:15.079 --> 01:47:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Somebody at a higher level, they might say, well, actually,

1984
01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:21.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm traveling west, And what that means is they've already

1985
01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:25.319
<v Speaker 1>gone east, attained the illumination, and now they're heading back

1986
01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:30.319
<v Speaker 1>to elevate brothers of a lower or younger status trying

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01:47:30.359 --> 01:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to give them the knowledge and give them the information

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01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to help them level up, so to speak. So there's

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01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:40.399
<v Speaker 1>another turn of phrase. But traveling towards the east to

1990
01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the sun, fine, all finding good. The problem is, according

1991
01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>to Morals and Dogma, you're traveling east to get to

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01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the morning Star, which they literally name as Lucifer. And no,

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01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>they do not mean this, and there's gonna be people. Well,

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01:47:58.520 --> 01:48:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that's more of like a philosophical thing. No, no, actually,

1995
01:48:03.520 --> 01:48:07.119
<v Speaker 1>clearly in the book he describes that they are doing

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01:48:07.159 --> 01:48:09.199
<v Speaker 1>this as a form of Satanic worship.

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01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Like it's this isn't a hypothetical.

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01:48:14.640 --> 01:48:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Interesting and people who like didn't question this, considering how

1999
01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:22.119
<v Speaker 3>many people were of Catholic and Christian faith back then.

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01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Most people don't read Morals and Dogma. Most Masons have

2001
01:48:26.279 --> 01:48:30.399
<v Speaker 1>never read the book. They might have a couple of

2002
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>excerpts that they memorized from it because this, again was

2003
01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like what they did as far as their rituals are concerns,

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01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:39.800
<v Speaker 1>so they may read that section. They haven't read the

2005
01:48:39.920 --> 01:48:41.760
<v Speaker 1>entire thing cover to cover, and even if they did,

2006
01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:44.479
<v Speaker 1>they would probably overlook that right.

2007
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:45.640
<v Speaker 2>They would probably be like, oh.

2008
01:48:45.560 --> 01:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess this guy was kind of on some

2009
01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>wild shit. But anyway, moving on, we'll tell me about

2010
01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:50.800
<v Speaker 1>this other rich walk out to do when I hit

2011
01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:53.199
<v Speaker 1>level thirteen. But you see what I'm saying. It's it's

2012
01:48:53.239 --> 01:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>not the entire point of the book. But he's also

2013
01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>not shy about it either. We already read a little

2014
01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>bit about his up bringing, in his past and all

2015
01:49:01.319 --> 01:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>these things. So morals and dogma, So the first degree apprenticed, Okay,

2016
01:49:08.319 --> 01:49:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the twelve inch rule and the common gabble. Unregulated and irregulated.

2017
01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Is not only wasted in the void like that of gunpowder,

2018
01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:20.319
<v Speaker 1>burned in the open air, and steam unconfined by science,

2019
01:49:20.600 --> 01:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>but striking in the dark as it blows, meeting only

2020
01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:28.279
<v Speaker 1>the air, they recoil and bruise itself. It is destruction

2021
01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and ruin. It is the volcano, the earthquake, the cyclone,

2022
01:49:32.159 --> 01:49:36.319
<v Speaker 1>not growth in progress. It is polyphemus, blinded, striking at

2023
01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:39.560
<v Speaker 1>random and falling headlong among the sharp rocks by the

2024
01:49:39.560 --> 01:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>impetus of his own blows.

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01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, my god, bro as wordy as fuck?

2026
01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, wordy, wordy, she says.

2027
01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:53.199
<v Speaker 3>No wonder people haven't read this, Like, dear God, did

2028
01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:57.800
<v Speaker 3>you just want to hear himself talk like yes, yes, clearly,

2029
01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:00.359
<v Speaker 3>the tyrants use the force of the people to chain

2030
01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:03.640
<v Speaker 3>and subjugate that that is, invoke the people.

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01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow, this dude brings up under Claudius, under Domitian. Uh,

2032
01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.119
<v Speaker 1>he brings up Caesar, he brings up Cara Kala, he

2033
01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>brings up Zeus, he brings up the spawn of Commedas.

2034
01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Like he's this.

2035
01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Dude is going on and on and that's just level one.

2036
01:50:22.159 --> 01:50:25.960
<v Speaker 3>And these people decided to take this bullshit and apply

2037
01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:30.119
<v Speaker 3>it national or worldwide. Yeah to the Masons. And now

2038
01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:32.159
<v Speaker 3>this is how they follow it, Like why would you

2039
01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:32.560
<v Speaker 3>do this?

2040
01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's clearly smarter than me, so I need

2041
01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to listen to.

2042
01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:37.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean, somebody at some point could have like rewritten

2043
01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:39.680
<v Speaker 3>this by now and made it like a lot better

2044
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:41.560
<v Speaker 3>and be like, you know, maybe we should take out

2045
01:50:41.600 --> 01:50:45.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot of this shit where like hurting people or

2046
01:50:45.359 --> 01:50:48.239
<v Speaker 3>children or whatever they do is not a vibe.

2047
01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:50.399
<v Speaker 2>So let's just read this too.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the ten commandments from morals and dogma. Okay,

2049
01:50:56.159 --> 01:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>let's go. God is eternal, omnipotent, immutable wisdom and supreme

2050
01:51:01.039 --> 01:51:06.720
<v Speaker 1>intelligence and exhaustless love. Thou shalt adore, revere and love him.

2051
01:51:07.039 --> 01:51:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Thou shalt honor him by practicing the virtues. And they

2052
01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>don't mean the virtues of the Bible. They mean the

2053
01:51:13.039 --> 01:51:17.560
<v Speaker 1>virtues of freemasonry. Thy religion shall be to do good

2054
01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:20.760
<v Speaker 1>because it is a pleasure to THEE, and not merely

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01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>because it is a duty. That thou mayest become the

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01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>friend of the wise man. Thou shalt obey his precepts.

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01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Thy soul is immortal, Thou shalt do nothing to degrade it. Okay,

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01:51:34.439 --> 01:51:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Thou shalt this unceasingly war against vice. Thou shalt not

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01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:43.640
<v Speaker 1>do unto others that which thou wouldst not wish them

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01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to do unto THEE. The golden rule Jesus Christ. Thou

2061
01:51:46.359 --> 01:51:51.319
<v Speaker 1>shalt be submissive to thy fortunes and keep burning the

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01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:55.039
<v Speaker 1>light of wisdom. All right. This is Number three. Thou

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01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:58.640
<v Speaker 1>shalt honor thy parents. Thou shalt pay respect and homage

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01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:03.119
<v Speaker 1>and on my to the aged. Thou shalt instruct the young,

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01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and thou shalt protect and defend infancy and innocence. Okay,

2066
01:52:08.359 --> 01:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Thou shalt cherish thy wife and thy child children. Thou

2067
01:52:11.279 --> 01:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>shalt love thy country and obey its laws. All right.

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01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Number six, Thy friends shall be to THEE a second self.

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01:52:19.439 --> 01:52:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Misfortune shall not estrange THEE from him. Thou shalt do

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01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:25.439
<v Speaker 1>for his memory whatever thou wouldst do for him if

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01:52:25.439 --> 01:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>he were living. Okay, so be a homie. Number seven,

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01:52:30.399 --> 01:52:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Thou shalt avoid and flee from insincere friendships, keep fake

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01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:38.279
<v Speaker 1>ass bitches at check. I feel that thou shalt and

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<v Speaker 1>everything refrain from excess. Thou shalt fear to be the

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<v Speaker 1>cause of a stain on thy memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Number eight, thou shalt allow no passions to become thy master.

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<v Speaker 1>Thou shalt make the passions of other profitable lessons to thyself.

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01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Thou shalt be indulgent to error. Number nine Thou shalt

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01:52:58.760 --> 01:53:03.039
<v Speaker 1>hear much, Thou shall speak little. Thou shalt act act well.

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01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:07.039
<v Speaker 1>You should forget injuries, You should render good for evil.

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01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:10.800
<v Speaker 1>You should not misuse either thy strength or thy superiority.

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01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.399
<v Speaker 1>And number ten thou shalt study to know men, that

2084
01:53:15.439 --> 01:53:19.039
<v Speaker 1>thereby thou mayst learned to know thyself. Thou shalt ever

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01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:22.159
<v Speaker 1>seek after virtue. Thou shalt be just, and thou shalt

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01:53:22.199 --> 01:53:23.880
<v Speaker 1>avoid idleness.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So okay, So, like, how do we get from

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01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:31.000
<v Speaker 3>that to what is it exactly that they do in

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01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:32.640
<v Speaker 3>the thirty third degree?

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01:53:32.680 --> 01:53:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Like, what is it they're supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, for the record, everything we just did was that

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01:53:37.079 --> 01:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was just first level. Now we're at level two, fellow craft.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's see if I could scroll down to the

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01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:46.920
<v Speaker 1>finals of the thirty third and you know, it'll just

2095
01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:48.520
<v Speaker 1>give you a better picture than one I could give

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01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you honestly. Oh oh, there was one. There was Satan.

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01:53:51.279 --> 01:53:53.119
<v Speaker 1>There was Satan. Hold on where I just had it.

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01:53:55.680 --> 01:53:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Damn it, I just had it up. In one respect,

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01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.279
<v Speaker 1>all gnostics greed, they all hailed, and there was a

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01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:05.319
<v Speaker 1>world purely emanating of the vital development of God, a

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01:54:05.399 --> 01:54:09.439
<v Speaker 1>creation evolved, developing of the divine essence, far exalted above

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<v Speaker 1>any outward creation produced by God's plastic power, wow and

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01:54:14.720 --> 01:54:18.079
<v Speaker 1>condition by pre existing matter. They agreed in holding that

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01:54:18.119 --> 01:54:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the farmer in his lower world was not the father

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01:54:21.119 --> 01:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of that higher world, of the emanation, but the demiurge.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see that he is bringing on he's

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<v Speaker 1>even bringing up Plato God like the Syrian gnosis, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, and right here we have Satan. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, since the chaotic principle of matter

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01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:42.199
<v Speaker 1>has acquired vitality, there now arises a more distinct and

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01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:46.720
<v Speaker 1>more active opposition to the godlike a barely negative, blind,

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<v Speaker 1>ungodly nature power which abstainly resists all influence of the divine. Hence,

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<v Speaker 1>as products of the spirit of the pneumohilicon are satan,

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01:54:58.640 --> 01:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>malignant spirits, wicked men, in none of whom there is

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01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>any reasonable or moral principle, or any principle of rational will.

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01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:11.560
<v Speaker 1>But blind passions alone have the ascendiary in them. There

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<v Speaker 1>is some conflict, as the scheme of Platonism supposes, between

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<v Speaker 1>the soul under guidance of the divine reason the noose

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<v Speaker 1>and the soul blindly resisting reason, between the pronoia and

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01:55:22.520 --> 01:55:25.399
<v Speaker 1>the a nag excuse me, or the divine principle in

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01:55:25.399 --> 01:55:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the nature. So he goes into all of these esoteric principles.

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<v Speaker 1>All this in his book. By the way, all this

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01:55:31.479 --> 01:55:33.600
<v Speaker 1>is in the book. And so wait, what was that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we on another level? Now? It looked like a

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<v Speaker 1>title sequence.

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, basically, and it's been a long.

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01:55:41.199 --> 01:55:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Time since I like actually thumbed through the book myself.

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01:55:44.720 --> 01:55:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But it gets more in depth the higher up and

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01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:50.359
<v Speaker 1>levels you go. And oh, here we go. That was

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01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>all twenty sixth So now at twenty seven now, Commander

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01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:57.119
<v Speaker 1>of the Temple, it goes on and on and on on,

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01:55:57.159 --> 01:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>but essentially, essentially at the thirty third degree, they have

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<v Speaker 1>one question for you. You wouldn't have gotten to the

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01:56:05.800 --> 01:56:08.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty second degree unless you had already done your reading

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01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:12.159
<v Speaker 1>into all of these things, into all of the background,

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01:56:12.199 --> 01:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the stories, the you know, gnostic conversations, the hermetic principles

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01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>of the flupty flaws like they have, all these things.

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01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:22.760
<v Speaker 1>You had to have done this to get to that point.

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01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:26.159
<v Speaker 1>So then when you get to that thirty second degree

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01:56:26.520 --> 01:56:28.439
<v Speaker 1>and you're there for a few years and they decide

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01:56:28.439 --> 01:56:31.159
<v Speaker 1>to call you up, tap you on the shoulder, right,

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01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:35.039
<v Speaker 1>you have to go to the Grand Lodge of the

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01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:37.920
<v Speaker 1>United States, which is in Washington, d c. They bring

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01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:41.399
<v Speaker 1>you into the Grand Chamber and they ask you one question,

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01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>whom do you serve? That's it. And typically brothers will say,

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01:56:49.119 --> 01:56:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I serve the Order, I serve my brothers, I serve

2147
01:56:53.239 --> 01:56:56.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, I serve the Masons, all these things, and

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01:56:56.159 --> 01:56:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they ask them to leave, and then they have to

2149
01:56:59.039 --> 01:57:02.079
<v Speaker 1>come back. There. There's cases where this dude did it,

2150
01:57:02.279 --> 01:57:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you know a hundred times, left the room for a

2151
01:57:05.279 --> 01:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>few minutes, thought about. A better answer comes in whom

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01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>do you serve? The answer they're looking for is Lucifer.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And because they don't see Lucifer as the negative, they

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01:57:21.199 --> 01:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>don't see him as the evil being.

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01:57:23.399 --> 01:57:25.800
<v Speaker 2>They see him as.

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01:57:25.720 --> 01:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>The light bearer, the illuminated one, the one that gives

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01:57:28.920 --> 01:57:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the humans the knowledge of good and evil and all

2159
01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:35.119
<v Speaker 1>these things. It's crazy, the twenty eighth degree Night of

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01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the Sun or Prince Adept they keep. The more higher

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01:57:39.720 --> 01:57:42.239
<v Speaker 1>up you go in levels, the more grandiose the titles sound.

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01:57:42.319 --> 01:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>To be completely honest with you, it's a very long book.

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01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm scrolling through right now and I'm on page four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten of this type of reading, which again

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<v Speaker 1>is very very poetic in nature. To be honest with.

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<v Speaker 4>You, he's long witted, bitch, Oh, very long winded. He

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01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:02.000
<v Speaker 4>really likes to hear himself talk, which.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've got a guy that's speaking all these

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<v Speaker 1>different languages and is this well versed in this many things.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind the day and age he was

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<v Speaker 2>living in.

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01:58:10.159 --> 01:58:11.960
<v Speaker 1>This is around the same time where the Hermetic Order

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01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:16.199
<v Speaker 1>of the Golden Dawn was going on, right, and he

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01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>was He wasn't a member of this, but he absolutely

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01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:24.199
<v Speaker 1>was a studier of some of the esoteric principles. This

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01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>is end of the eighteen hundreds, is when that really

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<v Speaker 1>got going. This is out Alistair Crowley, Madam Blovotsky, all

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01:58:30.359 --> 01:58:35.159
<v Speaker 1>these people call young who started speaking on esoteric principles

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to get them into the upper echelon circles,

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01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:42.880
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. You know right here you find it. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the thing. They don't have a prerequisite

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<v Speaker 1>for the thirty third degree even in this book.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pretty much the last chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>Title twenty nine Scottish Writers Saying of Scape Jesus Christ

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth degree in Freemasonry, the Scottish Knight of Saint Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>thirtieth degree, Knight Kodash or Kadash, thirty one Inspector Inquisitor

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01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and thirty second degree Master of the Royal secret There

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<v Speaker 1>is no other chapter beyond this, the kind of wrap

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01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:19.479
<v Speaker 1>them all up into this, and then the final one

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01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:23.399
<v Speaker 1>just kind of talks about and as in each Trianglar perfection,

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01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:26.720
<v Speaker 1>one is three and three are one. So man is

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<v Speaker 1>one though a double of nature, and he attains the

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01:59:29.840 --> 01:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>purpose of his being only when two natures are in

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<v Speaker 1>him that are just are in just equilibrium, and his

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01:59:36.319 --> 01:59:39.039
<v Speaker 1>life is a success only when it two is in

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01:59:39.079 --> 01:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>harmony and beautiful, like the great harmonies of God in

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01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the universe. Such my Brother is the true word of

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<v Speaker 1>a Master Mason, such the Royal Secret, which makes possible

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01:59:50.239 --> 01:59:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and shall at length make real the holy Empire of

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01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:59.920
<v Speaker 1>true Masonic Brotherhood. This is pretty much where I go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so, how did they get the thirty third? Like

2202
02:00:03.439 --> 02:00:06.079
<v Speaker 3>who created it? Did Pike create it? And then like

2203
02:00:06.159 --> 02:00:10.359
<v Speaker 3>it's just an oral thing that they decided to do essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I don't want to even give him

2205
02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the distinction of saying he created it, but he's the

2206
02:00:16.359 --> 02:00:19.319
<v Speaker 1>one that really put pin to paper and sectioned it

2207
02:00:19.439 --> 02:00:22.159
<v Speaker 1>off to be what it is. If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see here.

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<v Speaker 3>More So, if they're just if they're just hailing Satan,

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02:00:28.840 --> 02:00:31.520
<v Speaker 3>are they actually committing like hainous crimes like so many

2211
02:00:31.520 --> 02:00:34.640
<v Speaker 3>people talk about, like the conspiracies talk about like they

2212
02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:36.600
<v Speaker 3>have to kill somebody or they have to do like

2213
02:00:37.119 --> 02:00:39.439
<v Speaker 3>horrible shit to be able to get to the thirty third?

2214
02:00:39.479 --> 02:00:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Like are they actually doing that or is it just

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02:00:41.680 --> 02:00:42.920
<v Speaker 3>more of a conspiracy?

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<v Speaker 1>No again, ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of

2217
02:00:47.520 --> 02:00:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Masons are not doing any conspiratorial things.

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02:00:50.239 --> 02:00:52.720
<v Speaker 2>They're just they're just dudes. They're just a part of

2219
02:00:52.720 --> 02:00:53.439
<v Speaker 2>a boys club.

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<v Speaker 1>They like to get together and do some charity work,

2221
02:00:56.199 --> 02:00:59.039
<v Speaker 1>smoke some stoves, have a little glass of brandy, you know,

2222
02:00:59.159 --> 02:01:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and bring in the younger generation and the networking and

2223
02:01:03.039 --> 02:01:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the financial benefits. If you ever get jammed up, they'll

2224
02:01:05.640 --> 02:01:07.479
<v Speaker 1>come to your aid. And there's so many things. There's

2225
02:01:07.479 --> 02:01:11.279
<v Speaker 1>so many benefits on paper to joining. It's the ones

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02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:13.479
<v Speaker 1>at the very tippy top. And that's the other thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>In America we only have blue side masonry offered, and yeah,

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02:01:18.039 --> 02:01:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you have the red and you have the purple one whatever.

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02:01:20.199 --> 02:01:27.039
<v Speaker 1>But in Europe, in very small esoteric circles, you have

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02:01:27.159 --> 02:01:31.199
<v Speaker 1>what's called white side free masonry. This is something that

2231
02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:34.439
<v Speaker 1>most American Masons will disagree even exists.

2232
02:01:34.760 --> 02:01:36.239
<v Speaker 2>But remember how we talked about earlier.

2233
02:01:36.239 --> 02:01:40.079
<v Speaker 1>There was four thousand rights and all these things and

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02:01:40.119 --> 02:01:41.279
<v Speaker 1>degrees and all this shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, fifty two.

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02:01:43.239 --> 02:01:44.000
<v Speaker 2>So there is.

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<v Speaker 1>Less known about these groups because worldwide there's only thirty

2238
02:01:51.039 --> 02:01:55.880
<v Speaker 1>three accepted levels and that's all blue side. However, not

2239
02:01:56.039 --> 02:01:58.720
<v Speaker 1>only did the elites of the past decide that thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three was the number they should stop, they also decided

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02:02:02.520 --> 02:02:06.159
<v Speaker 1>that there should be an offshoot that only the select

2242
02:02:06.319 --> 02:02:09.359
<v Speaker 1>of the select of the select could even be invited to.

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02:02:09.720 --> 02:02:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Most thirty third degree Masons, they may know.

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02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:14.039
<v Speaker 1>That it exists, but most of them will never actually

2245
02:02:14.079 --> 02:02:16.800
<v Speaker 1>go to a meeting of Whiteside Free Masons. There's three

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02:02:16.920 --> 02:02:21.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty degrees within white Side free Masonry, and

2247
02:02:21.399 --> 02:02:28.479
<v Speaker 1>it is overly magic with a K. There is the sacrifices,

2248
02:02:28.520 --> 02:02:33.000
<v Speaker 1>there is the actual demonic entities that they are doing

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02:02:33.039 --> 02:02:38.000
<v Speaker 1>deals with, and all these things. And again, your average

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<v Speaker 1>Mason has never even heard of this, or they've heard that,

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02:02:40.479 --> 02:02:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that conspiracy. It's a yeah, totally that's a thing,

2252
02:02:43.840 --> 02:02:46.520
<v Speaker 1>but they don't actually believe it.

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02:02:46.520 --> 02:02:47.840
<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely a real thing.

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02:02:48.960 --> 02:02:51.359
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I didn't know that was actually like a real thing.

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02:02:52.039 --> 02:02:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Yep. It's existed four years, but it didn't get officially

2256
02:02:57.319 --> 02:03:00.760
<v Speaker 1>recognized until after morals and dogma had been And because

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02:03:01.119 --> 02:03:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not just an American publication, Mason's worldwide use that

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02:03:05.039 --> 02:03:08.399
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the thirty two degrees of Scottish.

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02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Right free Masonry.

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<v Speaker 1>York right has I want to say, like thirteen levels

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02:03:12.520 --> 02:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to it, and they like they jump up. It's like

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02:03:14.920 --> 02:03:18.479
<v Speaker 1>you go from three to five to seven to thirteen

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02:03:18.680 --> 02:03:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to nineteen. There's not as many independent levels as you

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02:03:22.399 --> 02:03:25.279
<v Speaker 1>do with the Scottish right, but essentially you can achieve

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02:03:25.359 --> 02:03:28.199
<v Speaker 1>thirty third through the York or the Scottish. That's the

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02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:32.479
<v Speaker 1>other distinction as well. Now there are dudes that do both.

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02:03:32.840 --> 02:03:34.600
<v Speaker 1>They will go all the way up on the York

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02:03:34.640 --> 02:03:36.680
<v Speaker 1>right side, and then they will go all the way

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02:03:36.760 --> 02:03:37.079
<v Speaker 1>up on.

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<v Speaker 2>The Scottish right side. That takes years.

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<v Speaker 4>That takes money, like your whole year, like your whole life.

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02:03:43.399 --> 02:03:44.439
<v Speaker 2>And that's the other thing too.

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02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Let's say you go to that level, you become a

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<v Speaker 1>York right, you become a templar, which you're finally seeing

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02:03:48.760 --> 02:03:52.920
<v Speaker 1>as a templar when you hit the twentieth level, right, Okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you go all the way to the tippy

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02:03:54.960 --> 02:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>top of that side, and then you go to the

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02:03:57.319 --> 02:03:59.840
<v Speaker 1>shriner side, to the Scottish right, and you're doing all

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<v Speaker 1>these things and you finally you've spent decades of your

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<v Speaker 1>life studying this information and applying all these philosophical mind

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<v Speaker 1>fucks to your life to make yourself what you're trying

2282
02:04:10.479 --> 02:04:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to be the best person you could possibly be. You've

2283
02:04:13.000 --> 02:04:18.279
<v Speaker 1>dedicated thirty years, forty years, you've paid dues like as

2284
02:04:18.319 --> 02:04:20.840
<v Speaker 1>religiously as possible. You are a brother through and through,

2285
02:04:22.000 --> 02:04:25.079
<v Speaker 1>and then you get that tap on the shoulder, maybe

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02:04:25.920 --> 02:04:27.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe if you have hailed a position of maybe to

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02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:30.399
<v Speaker 1>be like the state grand Master or something at that point,

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02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and you get a taple on the shoulder to come

2289
02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:35.840
<v Speaker 1>up to the big boys, to be a level thirty three.

2290
02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:38.079
<v Speaker 1>And then you find out that you've been doing all

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02:04:38.199 --> 02:04:43.319
<v Speaker 1>this in the service of Lucifer at that point. At

2292
02:04:43.319 --> 02:04:48.319
<v Speaker 1>that point, your life is the brotherhood. You can't you're

2293
02:04:48.439 --> 02:04:52.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna walk away from forty years of dedicated service. However

2294
02:04:52.479 --> 02:04:55.760
<v Speaker 1>many thousands and thousands of dollars you've donated to these

2295
02:04:55.840 --> 02:04:58.279
<v Speaker 1>charities and these causes, and your dues and all these things.

2296
02:04:58.640 --> 02:05:01.680
<v Speaker 1>All of your friends are made, all of your family

2297
02:05:01.680 --> 02:05:04.800
<v Speaker 1>connections are masons, your job is dependent upon it. At

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02:05:04.800 --> 02:05:07.319
<v Speaker 1>certain points like it's there are so many things that

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02:05:07.359 --> 02:05:09.920
<v Speaker 1>basically you've already sold your soul to the devil at

2300
02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:14.159
<v Speaker 1>that point, Yeah, you could walk away and lose who

2301
02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you are as a person for the last forty years.

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02:05:18.159 --> 02:05:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Most guys don't try.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to look up the White Side stuff, and

2304
02:05:21.079 --> 02:05:23.279
<v Speaker 3>there's like no information on it. I did find that

2305
02:05:24.720 --> 02:05:28.640
<v Speaker 3>the chapter that is the Freemasons for all of Europe,

2306
02:05:28.720 --> 02:05:31.119
<v Speaker 3>and so that's interesting. You can click on each country

2307
02:05:31.159 --> 02:05:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and find all sorts of information about that.

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02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're not going to find a lot of

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02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:39.039
<v Speaker 1>online information about the White Side because specifically, it's.

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02:05:38.920 --> 02:05:42.920
<v Speaker 3>All I hear saying hush hush conversations and channels.

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02:05:43.039 --> 02:05:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Kind of a situation I.

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02:05:44.399 --> 02:05:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Met one one time when I was in DC. As

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02:05:48.880 --> 02:05:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, I saw a logo on the

2314
02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:54.000
<v Speaker 1>back of a car that I didn't recognize. And I'm

2315
02:05:54.000 --> 02:05:56.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody who has been looking into the Freemason since I

2316
02:05:56.079 --> 02:05:58.640
<v Speaker 1>was in like middle school, like real shit. So when

2317
02:05:58.640 --> 02:06:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw this specific logo, I asked him about it,

2318
02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:04.479
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't tell me anything about it except for

2319
02:06:04.520 --> 02:06:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the fact that and I was a young marine at

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02:06:06.279 --> 02:06:06.640
<v Speaker 1>this time.

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02:06:07.439 --> 02:06:10.560
<v Speaker 2>He didn't tell me. He's like, oh, that's that's Whiteside masonry.

2322
02:06:10.560 --> 02:06:11.039
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like.

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02:06:12.039 --> 02:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>You you mean, like cause you'll see the white logo

2324
02:06:15.079 --> 02:06:17.800
<v Speaker 1>with a Masonic emblem and that's fine, whatever, cool, cool,

2325
02:06:18.319 --> 02:06:19.880
<v Speaker 1>That's not what this logo was. And I was like,

2326
02:06:19.960 --> 02:06:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I still, I'd never seen this before my life, and

2327
02:06:22.840 --> 02:06:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was next to a bunch of

2328
02:06:24.279 --> 02:06:26.520
<v Speaker 1>other Masonic logos, So I knew that it was connected

2329
02:06:26.560 --> 02:06:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in some way, shape or form, and he's like, yeah,

2330
02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:31.479
<v Speaker 1>that's not offered in this country. And I'm like, so,

2331
02:06:32.640 --> 02:06:34.920
<v Speaker 1>what is it. He's like, well, you know, to tell.

2332
02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:36.479
<v Speaker 2>You that I have to kill you.

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02:06:36.479 --> 02:06:38.279
<v Speaker 1>You know that. The Mason's always make that joke whenever

2334
02:06:38.279 --> 02:06:39.439
<v Speaker 1>you ask him about it or whatever.

2335
02:06:40.239 --> 02:06:42.000
<v Speaker 4>But he's probably actually being serious at that time.

2336
02:06:42.279 --> 02:06:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he might have been.

2337
02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:44.720
<v Speaker 4>I think he might have been.

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02:06:45.319 --> 02:06:49.319
<v Speaker 1>This was God, where was I. I forget what kind

2339
02:06:49.359 --> 02:06:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of big event, big dinner I was at or whatever,

2340
02:06:51.680 --> 02:06:53.119
<v Speaker 1>but I saw that and I had to.

2341
02:06:53.079 --> 02:06:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Ask about it.

2342
02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:57.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so whiteside masonry is literally just not offered

2343
02:06:57.880 --> 02:06:58.479
<v Speaker 1>in this country.

2344
02:06:58.560 --> 02:07:00.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's more than there.

2345
02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:01.640
<v Speaker 4>May be the old country.

2346
02:07:02.359 --> 02:07:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like there may be four or five Whiteside Masons

2347
02:07:05.680 --> 02:07:07.279
<v Speaker 1>in America, like real shit.

2348
02:07:07.359 --> 02:07:11.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean lodges, I mean individuals, all right.

2349
02:07:12.399 --> 02:07:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we could go more and more in depth on

2350
02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:19.000
<v Speaker 1>this the legend of Hiramabefuh. We could also go more

2351
02:07:19.039 --> 02:07:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in depth as far as Philadelphia's founding years were rife

2352
02:07:23.920 --> 02:07:27.439
<v Speaker 1>with conspiracy fears about the godless Freemasons in the Illuminati.

2353
02:07:27.960 --> 02:07:29.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, actually, let's do this one. Let's do this

2354
02:07:29.800 --> 02:07:31.760
<v Speaker 1>one stead because the Hira mabief one is a long,

2355
02:07:32.399 --> 02:07:34.319
<v Speaker 1>a long read, and honestly, we can make a whole

2356
02:07:34.319 --> 02:07:37.399
<v Speaker 1>episode about Hire mabiff In and of itself. So let's

2357
02:07:37.399 --> 02:07:39.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about this. So we do know that George Washington

2358
02:07:40.279 --> 02:07:44.399
<v Speaker 1>was initiated into Freemasonry at the age of twenty. Okay,

2359
02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:47.920
<v Speaker 1>he was a lifelong Mason. And it wasn't just him,

2360
02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:49.840
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the founding founder a lot of the

2361
02:07:49.840 --> 02:07:52.600
<v Speaker 1>founding fathers were as a matter of fact. So how

2362
02:07:52.640 --> 02:07:55.560
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy spread has changed immensely over the history of the

2363
02:07:55.680 --> 02:07:58.560
<v Speaker 1>United States as technology and media have evolved, but the

2364
02:07:58.640 --> 02:08:01.800
<v Speaker 1>nature of conspiracies has not, so the person writing this.

2365
02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:06.199
<v Speaker 1>I teach communication courses at Villanova University, twelve miles from Philadelphia,

2366
02:08:06.239 --> 02:08:09.720
<v Speaker 1>on how conspiracy theories are created and disseminated. As the

2367
02:08:09.800 --> 02:08:13.039
<v Speaker 1>nation approaches its two hundred and fiftieth anniversary on July fourth,

2368
02:08:13.199 --> 02:08:15.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, I have been thinking about the early

2369
02:08:15.640 --> 02:08:18.800
<v Speaker 1>history of Philadelphia and the controversial people, stories, and ideas,

2370
02:08:18.800 --> 02:08:22.359
<v Speaker 1>including conspiracies, that permeated the city during the second half

2371
02:08:22.399 --> 02:08:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of the seventeen hundreds. Conspiracy theories describe alternate versions of events,

2372
02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:28.399
<v Speaker 1>such as the collapse of the Twin Towers of the

2373
02:08:28.399 --> 02:08:31.880
<v Speaker 1>World Trade Center that contrast with the official accepted versions

2374
02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:35.840
<v Speaker 1>of events. Conspiracies, however, involve small groups of people who

2375
02:08:35.880 --> 02:08:38.439
<v Speaker 1>act in secret for their own gain and against the

2376
02:08:38.439 --> 02:08:42.520
<v Speaker 1>common good. Examples of conspiracies include the Watergate scandal by

2377
02:08:42.640 --> 02:08:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Nixon and members of the administration, or the Tuskegee experiments,

2378
02:08:46.159 --> 02:08:49.520
<v Speaker 1>in which the US public health professionals treated unsuspecting African

2379
02:08:49.520 --> 02:08:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Americans with syphilis with the placebo which all this is accurate,

2380
02:08:53.880 --> 02:08:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Colonial America was rife with perceived conspiratorial agendas. Many of

2381
02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:02.560
<v Speaker 1>these stem from the uneasy coexistence of political parties with religion,

2382
02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:06.119
<v Speaker 1>which was newly protected by the First Amendment, and with

2383
02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church in particular Freemasons in the cradle of liberty.

2384
02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:14.960
<v Speaker 1>So this also is worth mentioning. Here the gavel represents

2385
02:09:15.079 --> 02:09:19.199
<v Speaker 1>the refining of characteristics and the removal of vices among Freemasons.

2386
02:09:19.640 --> 02:09:22.079
<v Speaker 1>This is like some stained glass of a Masonic logo,

2387
02:09:22.800 --> 02:09:27.880
<v Speaker 1>worth mentioning. So Philadelphia was the country's political center during

2388
02:09:27.880 --> 02:09:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the American Revolution, which began in seventeen seventy five. After

2389
02:09:31.279 --> 02:09:34.439
<v Speaker 1>the war ended in america victory in seventeen eighty one.

2390
02:09:34.760 --> 02:09:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia served as the capital of the US beginning in

2391
02:09:37.319 --> 02:09:40.600
<v Speaker 1>seventeen ninety until Washington, d c. Was chosen by America's

2392
02:09:40.600 --> 02:09:44.159
<v Speaker 1>permanent capital in eighteen hundred. During this period, the US

2393
02:09:44.199 --> 02:09:47.319
<v Speaker 1>dependent on contributions from its political and civil figures to

2394
02:09:47.399 --> 02:09:51.359
<v Speaker 1>develop further leaders with skills and intelligence. Among the group

2395
02:09:51.439 --> 02:09:53.720
<v Speaker 1>of some of the country's leaders were Freemasons and the

2396
02:09:53.840 --> 02:10:00.479
<v Speaker 1>independent brethren of skilled Stonemasons. In England, landowners or even

2397
02:10:00.600 --> 02:10:04.359
<v Speaker 1>royalty owned many Masons or owned many Masons. But some

2398
02:10:04.439 --> 02:10:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Masons were self sufficient and enjoyed their freedom to work

2399
02:10:07.119 --> 02:10:09.680
<v Speaker 1>as they wished when they made their way to America

2400
02:10:09.680 --> 02:10:13.079
<v Speaker 1>by the seventeen twenties. Their high standards of workmanship, fair trade,

2401
02:10:13.119 --> 02:10:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and reasons as they taught their craft made them influential

2402
02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:19.359
<v Speaker 1>in society. Being a Freemason was marked was a mark

2403
02:10:19.399 --> 02:10:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of sophistication. Freemasons were high status, wealthy men. The fraternity

2404
02:10:23.840 --> 02:10:26.920
<v Speaker 1>provided a forum for networking, not just for stone shapers,

2405
02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:30.119
<v Speaker 1>but other men who were successful in business, trade, or

2406
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:33.560
<v Speaker 1>even colonial administration. Now you might recognize this picture raven

2407
02:10:33.640 --> 02:10:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Lee I do I do, I do the old Ton

2408
02:10:36.039 --> 02:10:39.800
<v Speaker 1>tavern in time tavern so by the late seventeen forties.

2409
02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Almost all of Philadelphia's Freemasons were also merchants, ship owners,

2410
02:10:43.800 --> 02:10:48.079
<v Speaker 1>or successful artisans. They were considered political, intellectual, and creative

2411
02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:51.800
<v Speaker 1>leaders in colonial Philadelphia. So the Ton Tavern was also

2412
02:10:51.840 --> 02:10:55.039
<v Speaker 1>a popular hangout in Philadelphia for Freemasons and other political

2413
02:10:55.079 --> 02:10:57.680
<v Speaker 1>brass in the late seventeen hundreds, And we saw that

2414
02:10:57.720 --> 02:11:01.000
<v Speaker 1>when we went to Philadelphia, we saw a lot Freemasons.

2415
02:11:01.479 --> 02:11:04.680
<v Speaker 1>The Ton Tavern was once used to hold Masonic meetings

2416
02:11:04.960 --> 02:11:07.199
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, So there's to say that

2417
02:11:07.239 --> 02:11:10.199
<v Speaker 1>the founding of the Marine Corps and the founding of

2418
02:11:10.199 --> 02:11:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Freemasonry in the United States, like they are directly linked,

2419
02:11:13.199 --> 02:11:14.760
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not. So.

2420
02:11:14.920 --> 02:11:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Freemasons built notable.

2421
02:11:16.199 --> 02:11:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Structures throughout the Philadelphia and southern New Jersey areas, as

2422
02:11:19.479 --> 02:11:21.640
<v Speaker 1>well as New York, Boston, and other parts of New England.

2423
02:11:21.880 --> 02:11:24.359
<v Speaker 1>But because the group's rituals and oaths were shielded from

2424
02:11:24.359 --> 02:11:27.880
<v Speaker 1>public view and performed in clandestine sessions in Masonic temples,

2425
02:11:28.239 --> 02:11:32.399
<v Speaker 1>rumors spread about their activities. Some believe Freemasons secretly conspired

2426
02:11:32.479 --> 02:11:34.840
<v Speaker 1>against American values, especially religion.

2427
02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Freemasons believed in principles.

2428
02:11:36.840 --> 02:11:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Such as rationalism, which views science and logic rather than

2429
02:11:40.479 --> 02:11:44.640
<v Speaker 1>sensory experiences as the foundation of knowledge. Freemasons also held

2430
02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:47.079
<v Speaker 1>that everything in the universe is the result of natural

2431
02:11:47.159 --> 02:11:52.039
<v Speaker 1>causes rather than supernatural or divine. They treated all religions equally.

2432
02:11:52.159 --> 02:11:55.199
<v Speaker 1>They allow participation in them, but believed no faith was

2433
02:11:55.239 --> 02:11:58.359
<v Speaker 1>to be favored as possessing the One True God. This

2434
02:11:58.520 --> 02:12:01.760
<v Speaker 1>was in contrast with the religions argue their doctrine exclusively

2435
02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:04.840
<v Speaker 1>expressed in the Truth. In seventeen thirty eight, Pope Clement

2436
02:12:04.920 --> 02:12:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the Seventh, I'm sorry, Pope Clement the twelfth banned Freemasons

2437
02:12:08.720 --> 02:12:12.119
<v Speaker 1>from joining the Catholic Church, a prohibition that still exists today.

2438
02:12:12.840 --> 02:12:13.960
<v Speaker 2>So just we're all clear.

2439
02:12:14.399 --> 02:12:15.279
<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize that.

2440
02:12:15.640 --> 02:12:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he made it to where if you are a

2441
02:12:17.399 --> 02:12:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Catholic and you're also a Freemason, you are hereby excommunicated

2442
02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:21.840
<v Speaker 1>from the church and you're going to hell.

2443
02:12:22.880 --> 02:12:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's interesting considering how many Catholics we have

2444
02:12:25.880 --> 02:12:28.800
<v Speaker 3>downe here and how many Freemasons, so so few of

2445
02:12:28.840 --> 02:12:30.680
<v Speaker 3>those like under the table things.

2446
02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:37.920
<v Speaker 1>The Catholics still have some very deep seated issues with Freemasonry. However,

2447
02:12:38.960 --> 02:12:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those laws that like, yeah, it's a

2448
02:12:40.880 --> 02:12:43.199
<v Speaker 1>law in the books, but who enforces it. You know.

2449
02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:45.880
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like, did you know just throwing it

2450
02:12:45.880 --> 02:12:49.279
<v Speaker 1>out that if you are a Communist and you're a

2451
02:12:49.279 --> 02:12:51.520
<v Speaker 1>member of the Communist Party in the United States, you

2452
02:12:51.600 --> 02:12:54.760
<v Speaker 1>are not allowed to hold any public office, Like that's

2453
02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a federal crime.

2454
02:12:56.680 --> 02:12:57.039
<v Speaker 4>I did not.

2455
02:12:57.199 --> 02:12:59.319
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of weird rules that I had no

2456
02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:02.199
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard about known about.

2457
02:13:02.840 --> 02:13:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Three members of the Communist Party have been elected to

2458
02:13:06.479 --> 02:13:10.479
<v Speaker 1>offices when in the last eighteen months, really they should

2459
02:13:10.520 --> 02:13:13.680
<v Speaker 1>be charged for federal crimes and serve jail time. But

2460
02:13:13.840 --> 02:13:18.159
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those laws that is not enforced. Yeah,

2461
02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, that's a real thing. For the record,

2462
02:13:20.239 --> 02:13:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Communis are evil. We need to we need They're not people.

2463
02:13:23.079 --> 02:13:26.680
<v Speaker 1>They're not people. They are not people. Anyway, moving on,

2464
02:13:27.479 --> 02:13:29.920
<v Speaker 1>they treated all religions equally, like we talked about about

2465
02:13:29.920 --> 02:13:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Papa Pope Clement made it to where Catholics cannot join Freemasons.

2466
02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So the Godless Illuminati, another secret society, also peaked at

2467
02:13:38.600 --> 02:13:40.239
<v Speaker 1>this time in various parts of Europe, and it drew

2468
02:13:40.279 --> 02:13:44.800
<v Speaker 1>suspicion among Americans that members exerted influence over the New Nation.

2469
02:13:45.399 --> 02:13:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Members of the Illuminati, a movement that started in Germany,

2470
02:13:48.479 --> 02:13:54.760
<v Speaker 1>in seventeen seventy six, promoted Enlightenment values and ideas, including logic, secularism,

2471
02:13:54.800 --> 02:13:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and education. Like Freemasons, they rejected superstition. Unlike Freemasons, however,

2472
02:13:59.560 --> 02:14:03.840
<v Speaker 1>they also rejected religion and its influence on society. We

2473
02:14:03.840 --> 02:14:07.279
<v Speaker 1>should also mention the fact that the Illuminati was founded

2474
02:14:07.279 --> 02:14:10.279
<v Speaker 1>by a dude that was not allowed to join the Freemasons,

2475
02:14:10.680 --> 02:14:12.199
<v Speaker 1>which we could do a whole episode on that one

2476
02:14:12.199 --> 02:14:15.159
<v Speaker 1>as well, but he basically will have him Yeah, he

2477
02:14:15.319 --> 02:14:19.520
<v Speaker 1>started it as a way to be a counter or

2478
02:14:19.560 --> 02:14:26.399
<v Speaker 1>a rival of the Freemasons. Later that one was disbanded

2479
02:14:27.039 --> 02:14:30.800
<v Speaker 1>while the Freemasons were allowed to thrive. And when that happened,

2480
02:14:31.119 --> 02:14:34.399
<v Speaker 1>the Freemasons basically just adopted the members of the Illuminati,

2481
02:14:34.720 --> 02:14:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and they brought their esoteric knowledge with them, and now

2482
02:14:38.399 --> 02:14:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the Illuminati is a part of Freemasonry.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have to go a deep dive into this at

2484
02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:46.319
<v Speaker 4>a later time.

2485
02:14:46.439 --> 02:14:50.520
<v Speaker 1>We will have to Europe most outlaw mostly outlawed the

2486
02:14:50.520 --> 02:14:53.319
<v Speaker 1>movement before seventeen ninety due to the group's attempts to

2487
02:14:53.640 --> 02:14:57.359
<v Speaker 1>greatly lessen religious influence, which again in seventeen hundreds, that's

2488
02:14:57.800 --> 02:15:00.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a fate worse than death. The Illuminati occupy key

2489
02:15:00.760 --> 02:15:04.079
<v Speaker 1>roles in the educational system and government of Bavaria, where

2490
02:15:04.079 --> 02:15:08.399
<v Speaker 1>they weakened clerical authority. The normally secret of Illuminati attracted

2491
02:15:08.399 --> 02:15:12.800
<v Speaker 1>attention through their attempts to attend and participate within Masonic temples.

2492
02:15:13.199 --> 02:15:16.000
<v Speaker 1>They used Freemason ideas along with their own ideas to

2493
02:15:16.039 --> 02:15:19.119
<v Speaker 1>recruit followers through these networks, hoping to promote an even

2494
02:15:19.159 --> 02:15:23.159
<v Speaker 1>stronger one world government led by reason instead of religion

2495
02:15:23.239 --> 02:15:25.880
<v Speaker 1>or spiritualism. That was one of their core tenets. By

2496
02:15:25.880 --> 02:15:29.399
<v Speaker 1>the way, this sit in speculation. As a result, religious

2497
02:15:29.439 --> 02:15:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and specifically Catholic leaders suspected an association between philosophically consistent

2498
02:15:34.319 --> 02:15:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Illuminati and Freemasons because there is. In a letter to

2499
02:15:38.560 --> 02:15:42.000
<v Speaker 1>George Washington in seventeen ninety eight, Reverend G. W. Snyder

2500
02:15:42.039 --> 02:15:45.600
<v Speaker 1>from Maryland attempted to awaken Washington to the danger of

2501
02:15:45.640 --> 02:15:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the Illuminati and their influence on Freemasons. He wrote about

2502
02:15:49.239 --> 02:15:52.479
<v Speaker 1>a recently published book by the Scottish physicist John Robinson

2503
02:15:52.680 --> 02:15:57.840
<v Speaker 1>called Proofs of a Conspiracy that, according to Snyder, gives

2504
02:15:57.840 --> 02:16:01.399
<v Speaker 1>a full account of a society of Freemasons that distinguishes

2505
02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:05.279
<v Speaker 1>itself by the name of Illuminati, whose plan it is

2506
02:16:05.319 --> 02:16:09.479
<v Speaker 1>to overturn all government and all religion, even natural, and

2507
02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:13.239
<v Speaker 1>who endeavor to eradicate every idea of a supreme being.

2508
02:16:14.760 --> 02:16:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Damn, seventeen ninety eight, we got our conspiracy heads already happening.

2509
02:16:19.680 --> 02:16:22.239
<v Speaker 1>If anybody wants to look that up, Proofs of a

2510
02:16:22.279 --> 02:16:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Conspiracy from seventeen ninety eight, it is, it's a pretty

2511
02:16:27.319 --> 02:16:28.199
<v Speaker 1>weird read.

2512
02:16:28.239 --> 02:16:30.760
<v Speaker 2>And honestly it's not.

2513
02:16:31.199 --> 02:16:33.399
<v Speaker 1>It's not some hair brain thing to say, like, hey,

2514
02:16:33.680 --> 02:16:37.520
<v Speaker 1>there's clearly connections between the Freemasons and the Illuminati, and

2515
02:16:37.639 --> 02:16:39.520
<v Speaker 1>one of these groups has a lot of members at

2516
02:16:39.559 --> 02:16:41.959
<v Speaker 1>the very tippy top of our government, and the other

2517
02:16:42.000 --> 02:16:45.079
<v Speaker 1>one wants to dismantle all the world's government to make

2518
02:16:45.159 --> 02:16:48.479
<v Speaker 1>one world government. Perhaps we should look a little deeper

2519
02:16:48.520 --> 02:16:51.559
<v Speaker 1>into this. But of course old Georgie Boy was on

2520
02:16:51.639 --> 02:16:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the take because he was a member of the Freemason

2521
02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:56.000
<v Speaker 1>since he was twenty. He was very well aware of

2522
02:16:56.000 --> 02:16:59.440
<v Speaker 1>what the plan was all one hundred percent. Anyway, even today,

2523
02:16:59.440 --> 02:17:02.799
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories still promote the illuminized existence, even after they

2524
02:17:02.840 --> 02:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>were formally outlawed in Europe. Yeah, just like the Knights

2525
02:17:05.840 --> 02:17:08.959
<v Speaker 1>Templar were outlawed, just like the Freemasons were outlawed by

2526
02:17:09.000 --> 02:17:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church. It's crazy how it works out. Just

2527
02:17:13.840 --> 02:17:17.319
<v Speaker 1>like drugs are outlawed in every jail. It's so like

2528
02:17:17.399 --> 02:17:19.680
<v Speaker 1>drugs are not allowed in prisons, yet that's the easiest

2529
02:17:19.680 --> 02:17:22.840
<v Speaker 1>place to get drugs. Funny how that works even today?

2530
02:17:22.840 --> 02:17:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Can we talked about that? Even after they were formally outlawed.

2531
02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Such theories suggests the Illuminati still works to degrade religious

2532
02:17:28.360 --> 02:17:31.719
<v Speaker 1>influence throughout civil upheaval. A myth survives that the Illuminati

2533
02:17:31.799 --> 02:17:35.479
<v Speaker 1>still operates secretly support a world government that guide various

2534
02:17:35.520 --> 02:17:39.559
<v Speaker 1>governments on how economically controlled or how to economically control

2535
02:17:39.600 --> 02:17:42.479
<v Speaker 1>the world. But the Illuminati in the late seventeen hundreds

2536
02:17:42.879 --> 02:17:46.840
<v Speaker 1>seems to dovetail with what people assumed were the basic

2537
02:17:47.079 --> 02:17:52.079
<v Speaker 1>ideas of agendas of Freemasons in America. Some in America suspected,

2538
02:17:52.239 --> 02:17:55.360
<v Speaker 1>without obvious evidence, that Freemasons use their status to boost

2539
02:17:55.399 --> 02:17:57.520
<v Speaker 1>fellow Freemasons to various government positions.

2540
02:17:59.079 --> 02:18:04.799
<v Speaker 2>That's not a suspect thing. Some that's clear and obvious.

2541
02:18:04.879 --> 02:18:05.600
<v Speaker 2>That's how they do.

2542
02:18:05.719 --> 02:18:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But all right, they worried this would drive America to

2543
02:18:10.959 --> 02:18:13.000
<v Speaker 1>become godless or even satanic.

2544
02:18:15.520 --> 02:18:19.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, you know, you know, it's weird.

2545
02:18:19.360 --> 02:18:20.079
<v Speaker 2>It's weird.

2546
02:18:20.159 --> 02:18:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Time to be alive right now, what's going on in

2547
02:18:22.959 --> 02:18:24.719
<v Speaker 4>our world? Right in our country?

2548
02:18:25.200 --> 02:18:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Concerns about the influence of Freemasons persisted in part because

2549
02:18:28.639 --> 02:18:32.879
<v Speaker 1>American Presidents Washington and James Munroe were Free Masons. The

2550
02:18:32.920 --> 02:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>American public was suspicious that these members reached high levels

2551
02:18:35.840 --> 02:18:39.200
<v Speaker 1>of government due to their influence of Freemasons. In fact,

2552
02:18:39.319 --> 02:18:41.840
<v Speaker 1>as many as twenty five of the fifty five men

2553
02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:45.360
<v Speaker 1>who attended the Continental Convention in Philly were Free Masons.

2554
02:18:45.920 --> 02:18:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Founding father Benjamin Franklin was a devout Mason for fifty years.

2555
02:18:50.040 --> 02:18:52.479
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Jefferson was widely thought to be a Mason, though

2556
02:18:52.479 --> 02:18:55.760
<v Speaker 1>there is little evidence to support this. Actually that's confirmed.

2557
02:18:55.799 --> 02:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't a high level Mason, but he was absolutely

2558
02:18:57.799 --> 02:19:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a member. Many of these American leaders, including Franklin, John Adams,

2559
02:19:01.680 --> 02:19:04.479
<v Speaker 1>and Jefferson, had spent time in Europe, especially France, during

2560
02:19:04.479 --> 02:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the late seventeen hundreds. Americans feared the European Illuminati members

2561
02:19:08.479 --> 02:19:11.639
<v Speaker 1>could directly access these political leaders and gain power and

2562
02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>influence over the US. None of the leaders admitted to

2563
02:19:15.040 --> 02:19:18.559
<v Speaker 1>having any connections with the Illuminati well. Of course, of course,

2564
02:19:19.920 --> 02:19:23.079
<v Speaker 1>fears around Freemason and Illuminati came to a head in

2565
02:19:23.120 --> 02:19:27.959
<v Speaker 1>the dramatic vitriolic US presidential election of seventeen ninety six

2566
02:19:28.000 --> 02:19:30.799
<v Speaker 1>and eighteen hundred. In the late seventeen ninety six election,

2567
02:19:31.239 --> 02:19:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson's Republican Party accused Adam of wanting to be a

2568
02:19:34.920 --> 02:19:38.040
<v Speaker 1>king and also grooming his son John Quincy Adams to

2569
02:19:38.079 --> 02:19:42.360
<v Speaker 1>become president immediately after his father. Adam's Federalist Party and

2570
02:19:42.399 --> 02:19:45.520
<v Speaker 1>an anonymous writer in the newspaper suspected to be Alexander Hamilton,

2571
02:19:45.799 --> 02:19:51.000
<v Speaker 1>writing under the pseudonym Focian, spread rumors attacking Jefferson. Focian

2572
02:19:51.079 --> 02:19:53.760
<v Speaker 1>suggested that while Jefferson was a U S Secretary of

2573
02:19:53.840 --> 02:19:58.200
<v Speaker 1>State in France during Washington's presidency, the Illuminati influenced him

2574
02:19:58.319 --> 02:20:00.440
<v Speaker 1>in ways that would cause him to turn earn his

2575
02:20:00.520 --> 02:20:05.479
<v Speaker 1>back on religion. Which is funny because Jefferson was specifically

2576
02:20:05.520 --> 02:20:10.120
<v Speaker 1>non religious, like that's that's a known thing. He The

2577
02:20:10.159 --> 02:20:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Jefferson Bible is a thing where it's literally.

2578
02:20:13.280 --> 02:20:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Just the quotes of Jesus.

2579
02:20:14.639 --> 02:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>The entire the entire Thomas Jefferson Bible is literally only

2580
02:20:18.200 --> 02:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>quotations from Jesus with nothing else. So he was a

2581
02:20:21.639 --> 02:20:23.719
<v Speaker 1>very well educated man, and I would say he was

2582
02:20:23.959 --> 02:20:28.959
<v Speaker 1>religious or spiritual. He was not a Christian by any stretch.

2583
02:20:29.000 --> 02:20:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Adam's Federalist Party or we've talked about that one.

2584
02:20:32.639 --> 02:20:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Ari uh Focin also accused Jefferson of fathering children with

2585
02:20:36.840 --> 02:20:40.200
<v Speaker 1>an enslaved woman, Sally Hemmings, who he kept as a

2586
02:20:40.239 --> 02:20:43.040
<v Speaker 1>concubine when he returned with her from France in seventeen

2587
02:20:43.120 --> 02:20:47.440
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight or eighty nine. Historians do believe that Jefferson

2588
02:20:47.479 --> 02:20:50.760
<v Speaker 1>did in fact have up to six children with his

2589
02:20:51.000 --> 02:20:55.600
<v Speaker 1>slave concubine, So just we're all clear, not a baseless accusation.

2590
02:20:56.520 --> 02:20:59.680
<v Speaker 1>The accusations also said Jefferson would free all enslaved people

2591
02:20:59.719 --> 02:21:03.600
<v Speaker 1>in a America if elected. Adams won in seventeen ninety

2592
02:21:03.639 --> 02:21:08.079
<v Speaker 1>six just by just three electoral votes, and Jefferson defeated

2593
02:21:08.120 --> 02:21:14.639
<v Speaker 1>him in eighteen hundred. So yah know, ah, he didn't

2594
02:21:14.680 --> 02:21:18.360
<v Speaker 1>free any slaves. Just were all clear. Jefferson absolutely didn't

2595
02:21:18.399 --> 02:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>do that, but he did father a lot of children

2596
02:21:20.319 --> 02:21:24.280
<v Speaker 1>with his slave women. Anyway. Freemasons today have largely shrunk

2597
02:21:24.280 --> 02:21:27.280
<v Speaker 1>from their once quite prestigious influence in American society. Today,

2598
02:21:27.319 --> 02:21:30.559
<v Speaker 1>they are mostly philanthropic organizations that support many causes, such

2599
02:21:30.559 --> 02:21:34.360
<v Speaker 1>as children's hospitals, home for aged, and community services. They

2600
02:21:34.360 --> 02:21:36.879
<v Speaker 1>are about one million members in America according to an

2601
02:21:36.959 --> 02:21:40.079
<v Speaker 1>estimate from twenty twenty. That's down from a high of

2602
02:21:40.079 --> 02:21:44.840
<v Speaker 1>over four million in nineteen fifty nine. So, actually, could

2603
02:21:44.879 --> 02:21:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you look up what was the population of America in

2604
02:21:47.760 --> 02:21:50.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty nine, because I'm actually very curious. So twenty

2605
02:21:50.959 --> 02:21:54.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty we got about three hundred and sixty million Americans

2606
02:21:55.399 --> 02:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and allegedly about a million claim to be Freemasons. So

2607
02:22:00.680 --> 02:22:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, a one in three sixty five chance

2608
02:22:04.440 --> 02:22:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that you're meeting somebody on the street and they happen

2609
02:22:06.280 --> 02:22:08.159
<v Speaker 1>to be some sort of an affiliate with the Freemasons.

2610
02:22:08.959 --> 02:22:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Approximately two point nine billion was that was the world,

2611
02:22:12.440 --> 02:22:14.799
<v Speaker 3>So it is one hundred and seventy nine million here.

2612
02:22:15.200 --> 02:22:18.360
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and seventy nine million, and four million of

2613
02:22:18.399 --> 02:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>them were free Masons.

2614
02:22:20.319 --> 02:22:22.520
<v Speaker 2>That is a much larger ratio.

2615
02:22:23.159 --> 02:22:25.319
<v Speaker 1>So you see that everybody's saying like free Mason ring

2616
02:22:25.360 --> 02:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>is on the decline, It really is.

2617
02:22:28.680 --> 02:22:30.639
<v Speaker 4>It's like one in every forty five people is a

2618
02:22:30.719 --> 02:22:31.559
<v Speaker 4>per is one.

2619
02:22:31.799 --> 02:22:34.440
<v Speaker 1>So we've gone from one in forty five to one

2620
02:22:34.479 --> 02:22:39.120
<v Speaker 1>in three sixty. You see what, Yeah, they're definitely on

2621
02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:41.399
<v Speaker 1>the on the downslope.

2622
02:22:41.559 --> 02:22:42.959
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, they bring up certain things.

2623
02:22:42.959 --> 02:22:45.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a picture inside of the Egyptian Hall at

2624
02:22:45.520 --> 02:22:50.079
<v Speaker 1>the Masonic Temple in Philadelphia. You see a lot of

2625
02:22:50.120 --> 02:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the iconography. You got the wings, you got the pharaoh's heads.

2626
02:22:53.920 --> 02:22:56.879
<v Speaker 1>This is clearly a Shriner lodge because the Shriners are

2627
02:22:56.920 --> 02:23:01.079
<v Speaker 1>more of the Eastern philosophy. If it was a Knight's

2628
02:23:01.159 --> 02:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Templar group, you'd see the checkered floors and you'd see

2629
02:23:03.520 --> 02:23:04.639
<v Speaker 1>more things.

2630
02:23:05.159 --> 02:23:08.239
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, anyway, this is basically.

2631
02:23:07.959 --> 02:23:11.559
<v Speaker 1>The beginning, middle, and end of where the Illuminati ties

2632
02:23:11.680 --> 02:23:15.440
<v Speaker 1>came in. So, okay, before we get out of here, Raven,

2633
02:23:15.479 --> 02:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>do you have any more questions that have been just

2634
02:23:18.159 --> 02:23:21.239
<v Speaker 1>boiling up? Because we covered a lot relatively quickly, and

2635
02:23:21.280 --> 02:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>there's so much more to talk about, as far as

2636
02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:28.239
<v Speaker 1>hiram Abiff or the ancient stories of King Solomon and

2637
02:23:28.280 --> 02:23:30.639
<v Speaker 1>the Lesser and Greater Key of Solomon and how Albert

2638
02:23:30.639 --> 02:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Pike uses that in some of his things, which is

2639
02:23:32.799 --> 02:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>calling upon demons, the Acacia tree, which is where we

2640
02:23:36.799 --> 02:23:40.479
<v Speaker 1>get DMT from, which also is what they put on

2641
02:23:40.600 --> 02:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>top of the grade marker for hiram Abiff, and then

2642
02:23:42.920 --> 02:23:45.479
<v Speaker 1>all of these things. There's so much we could spend

2643
02:23:45.799 --> 02:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>years talking about this, But do you have any questions

2644
02:23:48.680 --> 02:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>as of this moment.

2645
02:23:50.760 --> 02:23:53.440
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that this was a pretty good I mean,

2646
02:23:53.479 --> 02:23:55.639
<v Speaker 3>we had to kind of get through it pretty quickly,

2647
02:23:55.719 --> 02:23:58.719
<v Speaker 3>but I think this is a great like introduction for

2648
02:23:59.399 --> 02:24:01.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, all this. I asked quite a few questions

2649
02:24:01.559 --> 02:24:02.920
<v Speaker 3>that I felt like people would ask too.

2650
02:24:04.559 --> 02:24:06.159
<v Speaker 4>I am interested in getting this book.

2651
02:24:06.159 --> 02:24:08.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie just for the soul's sake of

2652
02:24:08.079 --> 02:24:10.760
<v Speaker 3>having it, to look at it and to see what

2653
02:24:10.760 --> 02:24:14.680
<v Speaker 3>what random crap this dude is saying, because like, realistically,

2654
02:24:14.719 --> 02:24:17.799
<v Speaker 3>when you're reading what he's saying, it's just like he's

2655
02:24:17.840 --> 02:24:20.120
<v Speaker 3>throwing in a whole bunch of words to make himself

2656
02:24:20.399 --> 02:24:23.319
<v Speaker 3>sound better. And it's like, Okay, I'm surprised they haven't

2657
02:24:23.360 --> 02:24:24.879
<v Speaker 3>rewritten it by this point.

2658
02:24:24.959 --> 02:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he oh they can't. This is this is

2659
02:24:27.879 --> 02:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>their fucking I'm not gonna say it's their Bible. I

2660
02:24:31.079 --> 02:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>will say that this has been untouched and unchanged since

2661
02:24:34.719 --> 02:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>he wrote it. This is the doctrine. This is a

2662
02:24:36.959 --> 02:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>canon law.

2663
02:24:38.520 --> 02:24:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

2664
02:24:39.159 --> 02:24:41.879
<v Speaker 3>I think it's one of those things that like, since

2665
02:24:41.920 --> 02:24:44.280
<v Speaker 3>it's not like we're talking about like thousands and thousands

2666
02:24:44.319 --> 02:24:47.159
<v Speaker 3>of years old like I rewrite it, you know, make

2667
02:24:47.280 --> 02:24:51.680
<v Speaker 3>like a King James two edition, you know, make it,

2668
02:24:51.719 --> 02:24:54.079
<v Speaker 3>make a more updated one to where people, you know,

2669
02:24:54.239 --> 02:24:56.920
<v Speaker 3>may will want to actually read it and join again.

2670
02:24:57.040 --> 02:25:02.399
<v Speaker 3>But it does sound like it originated with good intentions

2671
02:25:02.799 --> 02:25:06.760
<v Speaker 3>and then got taken over by people of ill intention

2672
02:25:07.000 --> 02:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>and it turned into this other thing. And I didn't

2673
02:25:09.559 --> 02:25:13.760
<v Speaker 3>really understand how the Illuminati got absorbed into the Masons,

2674
02:25:13.799 --> 02:25:16.120
<v Speaker 3>because I know that they're parallel, and there's lots of

2675
02:25:16.120 --> 02:25:18.920
<v Speaker 3>conversations of the two of them, and I can see

2676
02:25:18.920 --> 02:25:22.159
<v Speaker 3>how they join up, I mean, especially when they're dwindling

2677
02:25:22.200 --> 02:25:24.799
<v Speaker 3>and all this other stuff that's going on with them,

2678
02:25:24.879 --> 02:25:25.399
<v Speaker 3>And then that.

2679
02:25:25.399 --> 02:25:27.079
<v Speaker 4>Draws a lot of questions for a lot of people.

2680
02:25:27.239 --> 02:25:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Is that, you know, since there's even still a million people,

2681
02:25:30.879 --> 02:25:34.559
<v Speaker 3>do they participate or feel inclined to participate in the

2682
02:25:34.680 --> 02:25:38.239
<v Speaker 3>Illuminati doctrine of wanting the one world order?

2683
02:25:38.360 --> 02:25:40.600
<v Speaker 4>Do they feel like this is that what this is about?

2684
02:25:40.600 --> 02:25:43.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, because there's a lot of people that really

2685
02:25:43.879 --> 02:25:47.559
<v Speaker 3>down here or like about the Masons. But all I've

2686
02:25:47.600 --> 02:25:50.360
<v Speaker 3>ever heard my entire life is how evil and corrupt

2687
02:25:50.360 --> 02:25:52.559
<v Speaker 3>they are, and how like it is like the most

2688
02:25:52.559 --> 02:25:55.799
<v Speaker 3>satanic of satanic things, and like when I was a kid,

2689
02:25:55.840 --> 02:25:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Like that's what I was hearing about. And I'm surprised

2690
02:25:59.360 --> 02:26:02.159
<v Speaker 3>that there's still like there is. It doesn't seem like

2691
02:26:02.200 --> 02:26:05.319
<v Speaker 3>they're uh. The people that are at the low levels,

2692
02:26:05.360 --> 02:26:05.719
<v Speaker 3>they don't.

2693
02:26:06.239 --> 02:26:07.200
<v Speaker 4>I've met a bunch.

2694
02:26:07.280 --> 02:26:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they just seem like they want to be

2695
02:26:08.799 --> 02:26:11.360
<v Speaker 3>a part of something, and like you know, the you know,

2696
02:26:11.399 --> 02:26:13.239
<v Speaker 3>the Scouts of America. You want to just be a

2697
02:26:13.239 --> 02:26:15.280
<v Speaker 3>part of something, right, and you want to help people,

2698
02:26:15.399 --> 02:26:18.440
<v Speaker 3>and like this kind of seems like that long standing

2699
02:26:18.520 --> 02:26:19.840
<v Speaker 3>tradition of helping people.

2700
02:26:20.319 --> 02:26:22.200
<v Speaker 4>But clearly good old.

2701
02:26:22.120 --> 02:26:26.799
<v Speaker 3>Pikey Poo was the kiss of death for this being

2702
02:26:26.879 --> 02:26:29.479
<v Speaker 3>like a positive thing and it turned into quite a

2703
02:26:29.520 --> 02:26:33.239
<v Speaker 3>negative thing that got taken over probably in somewhere in

2704
02:26:33.280 --> 02:26:36.959
<v Speaker 3>the more satanic and now you know what it is

2705
02:26:36.959 --> 02:26:39.440
<v Speaker 3>is we all understand it in the conspiracy realm is

2706
02:26:39.879 --> 02:26:42.440
<v Speaker 3>not being very great when you get into the higher levels.

2707
02:26:42.799 --> 02:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, with that in mind, some speculate that that, like

2708
02:26:47.040 --> 02:26:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, the White Side Freemasonry, if you will, Some

2709
02:26:50.200 --> 02:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>speculate that is the Illuminati, and that's why it's not

2710
02:26:53.079 --> 02:26:54.799
<v Speaker 1>talked about and why it's not over at least it

2711
02:26:54.799 --> 02:26:56.239
<v Speaker 1>probably is, I mean, why not.

2712
02:26:56.799 --> 02:27:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, It probably honestly is it's probably the Illuminati chap it.

2713
02:27:00.399 --> 02:27:01.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they probably band together.

2714
02:27:02.040 --> 02:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Remember how it just said the Illuminati specifically spits in

2715
02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the face of religion, like out, that's what they're about.

2716
02:27:09.079 --> 02:27:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Cut two, you go to the thirty third level of

2717
02:27:11.600 --> 02:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>free masonry, Blue Side, and you already know that you're

2718
02:27:14.440 --> 02:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>worshiping Lucifer at this point, what difference does it make.

2719
02:27:17.440 --> 02:27:19.360
<v Speaker 1>You're already in for a penny, in for a pound,

2720
02:27:19.639 --> 02:27:21.079
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. You might as well go

2721
02:27:21.120 --> 02:27:23.079
<v Speaker 1>as far as this road will take you, and then

2722
02:27:23.120 --> 02:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you get introduced to the other you know, up to

2723
02:27:25.760 --> 02:27:27.959
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty degrees of this new type of

2724
02:27:27.959 --> 02:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>masonry if they deem you worthy to go that route.

2725
02:27:31.760 --> 02:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Some speculate that that is what the Illuminati became.

2726
02:27:36.120 --> 02:27:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I could see it. I mean I could see the preservation.

2727
02:27:39.040 --> 02:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they want to keep it around. And this

2728
02:27:41.879 --> 02:27:45.120
<v Speaker 3>group obviously is still keeping it going and feeding bodies

2729
02:27:45.159 --> 02:27:47.360
<v Speaker 3>to the machine of finding people that they want to

2730
02:27:47.920 --> 02:27:51.639
<v Speaker 3>bring up into this. And so I mean, especially with

2731
02:27:51.719 --> 02:27:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the way that they do some of their rituals and

2732
02:27:53.639 --> 02:27:58.079
<v Speaker 3>stuff like, even if they're not intending to sign their

2733
02:27:58.120 --> 02:28:00.680
<v Speaker 3>self away to you know, if you believe that they're

2734
02:28:00.680 --> 02:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>setting they're sould away to this. Then, I mean they're

2735
02:28:03.319 --> 02:28:07.799
<v Speaker 3>still performing ritualistic practices, which obviously all religions have, I

2736
02:28:07.799 --> 02:28:11.360
<v Speaker 3>mean Christians, Jews, everybody, everybody has them, right, But.

2737
02:28:13.040 --> 02:28:16.440
<v Speaker 4>I think that I think, honestly, you might be onto something.

2738
02:28:16.639 --> 02:28:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that the Illuminati definitely could be hiding in

2739
02:28:18.959 --> 02:28:22.760
<v Speaker 3>the shadows of the Masons, and that they're quietly operating

2740
02:28:22.760 --> 02:28:26.440
<v Speaker 3>in the backgrounds of all this, and they're using them

2741
02:28:26.600 --> 02:28:30.600
<v Speaker 3>to feed their propaganda and everything else, which plays into

2742
02:28:31.440 --> 02:28:34.040
<v Speaker 3>how much is it are they actually involved in our

2743
02:28:34.040 --> 02:28:37.920
<v Speaker 3>current government? And you know how many people are a

2744
02:28:37.920 --> 02:28:39.959
<v Speaker 3>part of this and they're just not talking about it.

2745
02:28:40.440 --> 02:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>So and also it can't go without we can't just

2746
02:28:44.120 --> 02:28:47.639
<v Speaker 1>leave without saying that Albert Pike, also because he was

2747
02:28:47.719 --> 02:28:52.319
<v Speaker 1>somebody who could read Latin and Greek and Hebrew and Sanskrit,

2748
02:28:52.680 --> 02:28:55.799
<v Speaker 1>he is the reason why the Eastern philosophy has made

2749
02:28:55.840 --> 02:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>their way into this organization. He is the reason why

2750
02:28:59.079 --> 02:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the Kabbalah is into Freemasonry. Also, in this book Morals

2751
02:29:03.239 --> 02:29:06.959
<v Speaker 1>and Dogmen, he says without the kabbala what is freemasonry?

2752
02:29:08.440 --> 02:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>His words, not mine.

2753
02:29:10.200 --> 02:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>So let's mix in the fact that the same guy

2754
02:29:12.280 --> 02:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is saying that the kabbala is masonry, they are worshiping

2755
02:29:16.280 --> 02:29:20.319
<v Speaker 1>and seeking the illumination from Lucifer, and that he did

2756
02:29:20.360 --> 02:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>what he could to transcribe all these old alchemical texts

2757
02:29:23.879 --> 02:29:26.719
<v Speaker 1>into English that he and his boys could enact them.

2758
02:29:27.159 --> 02:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>He quotes Gnostic scriptures clearly, clearly your boy wasn't about how.

2759
02:29:34.319 --> 02:29:36.159
<v Speaker 3>Was he getting a hold of all this? So like

2760
02:29:36.200 --> 02:29:38.280
<v Speaker 3>you have to think during that time, like, it's not

2761
02:29:38.319 --> 02:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>like he was traveling. Not one time do we read

2762
02:29:42.079 --> 02:29:42.639
<v Speaker 3>that's true.

2763
02:29:42.920 --> 02:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

2764
02:29:43.479 --> 02:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>He had a lot of money and influence, so he

2765
02:29:46.559 --> 02:29:49.280
<v Speaker 3>probably could have been getting this stuff from overseas and

2766
02:29:49.360 --> 02:29:50.520
<v Speaker 3>having it sent to him.

2767
02:29:50.600 --> 02:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So mm hmm.

2768
02:29:52.000 --> 02:29:54.239
<v Speaker 3>But I mean he was anti Catholic, and the Catholics

2769
02:29:54.399 --> 02:29:56.959
<v Speaker 3>held so much knowledge, so it's interesting.

2770
02:29:57.239 --> 02:29:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, But and that's another thing.

2771
02:29:58.680 --> 02:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>The Catholics didn't hold all the knowledge.

2772
02:30:00.680 --> 02:30:02.559
<v Speaker 3>I know, they didn't hold all of it. They held

2773
02:30:02.840 --> 02:30:04.920
<v Speaker 3>they held a good amount of it. I would say

2774
02:30:04.959 --> 02:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>that they didn't hold all of it. But he would

2775
02:30:07.680 --> 02:30:10.079
<v Speaker 3>still have to tread carefully, even with a lot, like

2776
02:30:10.200 --> 02:30:13.200
<v Speaker 3>to talk to people in you know, Rome, in different

2777
02:30:13.200 --> 02:30:15.239
<v Speaker 3>places like that to be able to gather some of

2778
02:30:15.239 --> 02:30:15.959
<v Speaker 3>this information.

2779
02:30:16.479 --> 02:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Paris, everything goes through Paris. That's the thing. It doesn't

2780
02:30:19.399 --> 02:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>have to go through the Catholic Church. He has Masonic

2781
02:30:22.040 --> 02:30:24.799
<v Speaker 1>brothers in France, He's got Masonic brothers in England who

2782
02:30:24.799 --> 02:30:27.479
<v Speaker 1>are closer to these places. He could get original books

2783
02:30:28.040 --> 02:30:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, yes, the Catholic Church did all lot

2784
02:30:30.399 --> 02:30:34.159
<v Speaker 1>to repress information for the Middle Ages. Once the once

2785
02:30:34.200 --> 02:30:37.879
<v Speaker 1>the Renaissance started, the Catholic Church drastically started losing its

2786
02:30:37.879 --> 02:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>grip on what literature was and was not available. Then

2787
02:30:40.600 --> 02:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>when Gutenberg came out the printing press, everything was fucked.

2788
02:30:43.879 --> 02:30:45.639
<v Speaker 3>They could not Yeah, I mean you're talking about the

2789
02:30:45.680 --> 02:30:49.879
<v Speaker 3>fourteenth centuries when the Renaissance started. Yeah, so by the

2790
02:30:49.920 --> 02:30:53.600
<v Speaker 3>seventeenth century, I mean you're you're talking like the information

2791
02:30:53.680 --> 02:30:56.120
<v Speaker 3>is spreading across the world. So, I mean, it's just

2792
02:30:56.159 --> 02:30:59.239
<v Speaker 3>it's interesting that he involved all of this stuff. And

2793
02:30:59.239 --> 02:31:00.719
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of honestly why I want to look at

2794
02:31:00.719 --> 02:31:03.040
<v Speaker 3>the book itself as I want to see how like

2795
02:31:03.280 --> 02:31:07.159
<v Speaker 3>crazy this kind of gets with information and why they

2796
02:31:07.200 --> 02:31:11.639
<v Speaker 3>would take this and develop this into like this is

2797
02:31:11.719 --> 02:31:15.280
<v Speaker 3>the word and not one person has questioned this at all,

2798
02:31:15.479 --> 02:31:18.399
<v Speaker 3>maybe thought hmm, maybe we should change this a little bit,

2799
02:31:18.440 --> 02:31:19.879
<v Speaker 3>Maybe this doesn't sound right.

2800
02:31:20.559 --> 02:31:21.239
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know.

2801
02:31:21.479 --> 02:31:23.079
<v Speaker 2>They still abide, mind, that's the thing.

2802
02:31:23.399 --> 02:31:26.040
<v Speaker 4>And most these weird ass secret group ord not even secret,

2803
02:31:26.079 --> 02:31:28.200
<v Speaker 4>it's not secret at all, but these weird ass groups.

2804
02:31:28.600 --> 02:31:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

2805
02:31:30.959 --> 02:31:33.879
<v Speaker 1>And again, most Masons haven't read the book cover to cover.

2806
02:31:34.040 --> 02:31:38.159
<v Speaker 1>That's like five hundred and seventy five pages of very rambling,

2807
02:31:38.280 --> 02:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>poetic ramblings that you have to be well versed in

2808
02:31:41.120 --> 02:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>history to even understand half of what he's fucking talking about.

2809
02:31:44.920 --> 02:31:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Like, you have to be super well versed in history.

2810
02:31:47.239 --> 02:31:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Whenever he brings up a random philosopher from Greek antiquity

2811
02:31:50.959 --> 02:31:53.239
<v Speaker 1>that most humans have never heard of, let alone know

2812
02:31:53.280 --> 02:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>what his rhetoric was. You have to do research to

2813
02:31:56.440 --> 02:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>be able to understand the sentence that you just read

2814
02:31:58.719 --> 02:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>at this level. And it's a whole thing. It's a study,

2815
02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:05.559
<v Speaker 1>and that was the point. So anyway, anyway, we covered

2816
02:32:05.559 --> 02:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot. We covered a lot in this episode, and

2817
02:32:08.479 --> 02:32:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping for any of the newer cult members that

2818
02:32:11.239 --> 02:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>may be newer, you know, to the conspiracy world and

2819
02:32:14.319 --> 02:32:16.879
<v Speaker 1>you've always been curious about the Freemasons, I hope that

2820
02:32:17.079 --> 02:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>this covered some of the questions that you may have

2821
02:32:19.840 --> 02:32:23.239
<v Speaker 1>had if it didn't then we want to hear about

2822
02:32:23.280 --> 02:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it so that we can do another one, because we could,

2823
02:32:25.040 --> 02:32:29.319
<v Speaker 1>literally we could talk forever about freemasonry and their connections

2824
02:32:29.360 --> 02:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to upper elites, not just in America. We go and

2825
02:32:32.280 --> 02:32:34.159
<v Speaker 1>talk about France, we could talk about Germany, we could

2826
02:32:34.159 --> 02:32:37.159
<v Speaker 1>talk about Britain, we could talk about Scotland, so many

2827
02:32:37.280 --> 02:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>places around the word royal classes, not just of our democracy.

2828
02:32:41.120 --> 02:32:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Royalty was a part of the Freemasons in the Illuminati,

2829
02:32:43.799 --> 02:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and this also was done as a way to protest

2830
02:32:46.479 --> 02:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church who had reigned over the royal class

2831
02:32:49.760 --> 02:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>for centuries. So there's levels upon levels upon levels. We

2832
02:32:53.360 --> 02:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>barely scratch the surface here, but good cult members. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that this answered some questions. I hope you found

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<v Speaker 1>You if everybody's already gone and done so. With all

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<v Speaker 1>of this being said, this was another beautiful episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cults of conspiracy and I am the Caje to Night.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one very important shooting. The vital piece of

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