Speaker 1: Hello ladies, gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick. I'm
the Canadian namair Tress. Now I'm joined by Perth Angle
David himself. David, how's it going on this wrestling field weekend? Here?
Speaker 2: Like going good?
Speaker 3: My weekend started off first thing, early morning, getting up
and watching wrestling live from Australia. It's like my New
Japan days all over again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess for you because what was start time
seven for you?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Seven am?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it was five am, so I was definitely
on the replay I did. It was on the replay
throughout the day. And then we're joined by Gonna make
the bigger because you've got the small one there, Perk said,
Oh my god, there's a lot of Perk on and
I missed the memo my god. But yeahs how you
doing today? Oh Man, dond To Steele got a new
neck tattoo. Geez a wiz. I'm gonna pull that up
him and Cody for the ultimate face off with uh
in wrestling. That's a and it's not even like a
side one. It's a full look at that. It's a
full down the throat. Damn Adams apple tattoo.
Speaker 2: You know Stephanie, not not like there, but like pretty
much the same on the back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's full like like like.
Speaker 1: It's not the devil, but it is the devil, right like, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like her her symbol, like the thing that the
horns and stuff.
Speaker 1: She's living the gimmick, you know. Yeah, because I saw that,
and then I saw a lot of memes about what's
Nathan Frazer. He's like very religious on Twitter, so you're like,
don't let him see it. He's gonna lose and stuff.
But uh, yeah, So this is what we're doing today
is we're going to be talking about God Crown Jewel,
We're gonna review that, We're in New Wrestle dream predictions,
probably talk a little NXT invasion, which I've still not
got a chance to watch draft and now albe it'll
be a quicker one because I'm at the in law so.
Speaker 2: I'm super behind.
Speaker 1: So the draft will be next week. Travel next week,
which is fine because's no big show. And that's fine
because like I said, I'm at the in laws. It
is Happy Thanksgiving all the Canadians because i'm at Uh
we've got some festivities later on, so it's a Quicker Show.
But we'll do this and then next week we'll do
Wrestle Dream and then I'm not sure when are we
doing because we have Survivor series. I know we got
to do our shake ups. When is there anything that.
Speaker 2: That like on like the like the week or two.
Speaker 4: I think last year we did do a Survivors series review.
Speaker 2: I think we did like.
Speaker 1: Prediction predictions, Yeah, we did it there. I'm just trying
to see what the next after aid after Wrestl Dream
with their next pay per view is.
Speaker 2: All year, but they have blood and guts on like.
Speaker 1: Dynamite, right, Okay, so full Gear of November twenty second,
isn't Survivor series or is it just after that.
Speaker 2: After?
Speaker 1: I think it is the I think it's the twenty ninth.
Let me see Survivor Series twenty twenty five. You're hearing us?
Why you give it? I literally put Survivor Series twenty
twenty five and it's give me the Survivors Australian TV series.
How more specific episode twenty Yeah, it has to be
to be a twenty nine. Okay, so maybe what we'll
do there is yeah, I think what we'll do is, yeah,
we'll see there might be one or at least a
GM mode at least I think what the plan will
be is we'll probably do is it twenty second? Is
Saturday or a Sunday? This is the last check too,
Let's see that's a twenty second okay, so yeah, probably
what we'll do is we'll probably do a show that weekend.
At some point we can review god, what was it
full Gear? We said it was that was coming up here. Yeah,
we'll review full Gear, and then we can also do
predictions for Survivor series, and then we can make that
the shake up as well, because then we'll have a
good idea, so kind of similar to this where it'll
just be the reverse of WW will go second and
AW will go first. So there you go. That's kind
of relay on. Then there'll be a couple of GM
modes in the between because we got one catch up,
so look up for that.
Speaker 3: Yees, and Survivor series is a good one for debutes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there should be some but or returns, which
that's awesome theory. Don't even want to get it there,
but we'll see. But yeah, let's start with Crown Jewel here.
This one can come from Perfo s POS what did
you think of the show overall?
Speaker 2: Overall, I thought this was a really good show.
Speaker 4: I think even if like I just liked how like
all the matches happened, I'd say mostly without like shenanigans
or stuff like that, but the first one all allowed
because it was because of the stipulation.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a lot.
Speaker 4: Of yeah, like yeah, every match had like run ins
or like stuff like that or just like I don't know,
like there's been some other shows where that's just kind
of been like the case, like every match just had
something like happening with it. But I thought this was
a good show. I thought they were all good matches,
with some of them being like like way above the rest.
I thought like there weren't any bad ones or that
I thought, and I enjoyed the show. I thought it
was a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Same, I really enjoyed the show. I thought some of
these matches, considering the headline was supposed to be, even
though they had the Crowndule Championships at headlines, really the
John Cena match and for all that that did, I
feel like the other matches didn't have to go as
hard as they went, but they still gave it they're
all in this and like, yeah, they put on some
pretty good matches. I mean, other than I felt like
Stephane Vickier and Tiffany Stretton could have been just a
tad bit longer.
Speaker 1: That is definitely were wrestling in like a save it style,
Like yeah, that was on the line.
Speaker 3: That is my biggest gripe of the whole thing is like, hey,
they could have got like three more minutes and it
would have been pretty good. But other than that, like, yeah, no,
I was a great pl And I think that again,
if I had to rank it, like it's pretty pretty
high right now, I'd give it a solid B plus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's where I am. I think I
was a little worried with the first two matches because, like,
I enjoyed the street Fight, but it definitely had like
a house show type of vibe to expect, Like once
Roman's getting the I know they're in, Perth's pulling all
the gear and the balls and he's doing that stuff
like okay, it feels like when you've seen a street
fight or Nody Cuda house match and they're just kind
of having a good time for some sections of the match,
and it's supposed to be this like blood feud right
where it's like Bronson's taking out, but Roman's like Meme
into the crowds. It's like okay, And then yeah, I
was pretty let down with Stephanie and Tiffy was we'll
get there. Wasn't like a bad match, it was like okay,
but then the back half really like once seeing an
aj happen, and then Seth and Cody is really good
and then actually, no, I will lie. I have not
you guys want to cover me. I've not seen the
women's tag yet because I had to pick and choose
for what I could finish before to watch this show
because I was already doing Thanksgiving stuff. So I'll be
excited to hear guys's review there. I actually don't even
know who won. I mean, I assume Rein EO one
because they're eating that donut, right, am I right? That
day won?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I was gonna say that the same
see and I guess I forgot right Australia. They were
gonna have Rea job out in Australia, but no, so didn't.
Speaker 2: Get the pin the oh there you go, yea carry
And then.
Speaker 1: I did see Ria's gear. I like that she had
like the arm thing like EO did that. That was
very cool.
Speaker 4: They yeah, they were like sort of wearing like it
wasn't like matching, but it was like they had like
a similar style. And then on their boots they both
had on one side the Australian flag and one side
the Japanese flag.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. That's cool. So yeah, it'd be interesting
and then like obviously we'll get there. Well, I actually
we talk about that now because I don't have too
much to say. It's like other than because who do
we have right now? It's Charlotte and Alexa right, Like
it's it's tough. Like I feel like I see two
paths for Ria in the next six months. It's either
like her and EO and like you just strap them
up and it's like that's like you do something. Even
then I think.
Speaker 2: That on the same Survivor series.
Speaker 1: Team, well yeah that yeah, you got that. I mean
I just be more like down the line, and I
think we've said this before where I legitimately could see
like Charlotte and Alexa versus Rhea and Eos, like a
media match that would actually be something big, but just
a question of I just feel I still got that
itch in the back of my throat. That's your plate,
just pauling the Rhea Stephanie thing WrestleMania. I still think
that's the way we're going. But you could easily rock
with EO and Riha or a while, like they should
a least probably get like a tag team title run
image at some point. It's sure have been cleared. Because
I've been watching this back. I just think I see
no highlights.
Speaker 4: Actually like injured it was like to do because it
was the whole thing with Piper Niven because I think
she got she got her or like they announced she
was or they didn't announce, but she wasn't cleared. So
they did like an injury angle like on Charlotte to
like my time to see if Piper would come back.
But like it was it was clear that was just
an angle because like they did on her, it's like, oh,
Charlotte's hurt. But then like later in that same episode,
like they were beating down on like Alexa and she
just like ran out and like helpe them out, so
it was like she wasn't actually injured, right.
Speaker 1: I think the last thing I saw was they were
defending against like, uh, the Fire right.
Speaker 4: Because eventually they're like, yeah, Piper's not gonna come back,
So they just defend against Chelsea and.
Speaker 2: They got them right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, They've got saw Ruka and Zaria next.
Speaker 1: I believe, Okay, that'll that'll be fun. At least that's
a fun one. But then after that, I just worry
because it's it's funny because that started really hot. They won,
but then it's just I just feel like they haven't.
Have they been much on RAW. I feel like I've
not seen from what the little I've seen Raw, they haven't. Yeah,
I feel like.
Speaker 2: Are there like the only women's tag team is.
Speaker 1: Like Natty and Naccine. Yeah, that's true. That's the tough thing, right,
Like the it's very top heavy, it's and I guess,
I guess maybe you could if they want it. If
they don't want to do Charlotte and Alexa, they could
always somehow get the Kubooky Warriors to beat Charlotte and Alexa,
and then that's how you do a rematch down the
line with Renio because I'm not sure when they like,
did it end pretty clean the tag match last night
or yesterday?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there wasn't much shenanigans throughout the entire paper,
which was pretty good that they didn't go craziness here
and there. Hey, this is a an across the country,
so we're just gonna throw whatever at the wall and
see if it sticks and we can claim it's non
canon whatever doesn't work, like there were some Everything was
pretty legitimate with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we can.
Speaker 4: Talk first about like Cincera always started talking about the
women's tag manches since you you didn't really see it,
just so yeah, yeah, I thought it was a pretty
good match. I didn't think it was like a like
an amazing match. It was a very standard like WAE
type tag match where they were just like and really
like even though with Ria's home country, Like I'd say
the point of this match really was like to put
EO over like the entire time, cause it was like, well,
I mean, I don't know, it felt like because Ria.
It's like Riha started first and then she got like
posted like into the ring post and was like out
for a lot of time. Then yeah, they were working
over Eo. Then she got the hot tag to Ria,
and then from there on they were just like you know,
tagging back and forth, and eventually, like Oscar and Kyrie
were on the Apron and Rio went for like a
like a big boot on Oscar, but Kyrie pushed her
out of the way and took it for her, and
then Oscar throw a point just like never came back
in the rig to save Kyrie. So Kyrie just like
took a rip tige reattag tagged and EO and EO
hit the moon Song on Kyrie and.
Speaker 1: They want with Kyrie because I know they've been going
back and forth. Is she like full on evil with Oscar?
Nows there's still very much.
Speaker 4: Like a full like hostage like yeah, like she does
not want to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she just like you have to say to them
that you don't respect them. Stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what's interesting because either way you have you
eventually have to go that she turns on Oscar. You
have to have Cary do like the full turn where
she's like I am super batter, And I wonder if
that's how you also get to rematch this match, right
of like, oh, Cary is pretending to be friendly with
EO and you know, work and then hits him with
a mist or something and then you get back there,
right because it has to go one way or another.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they aren't having the normal trope of the
grudge and like, oh, I'm gonna do this because we're friends.
Things I don't agree with you, but I'm still gonna
go along with you. This is straight up like I
don't want to do any of this, and I am
deathly afraid of you, so I'm just gonna keep my
head down and follow along in the background. Other than that, yet,
it was a good match. I will say that it
was just under twenty minutes. I could see them maybe
taking two or three minutes from this giving it to
the other women's match, because while it was fun, there
were also a lot of spread out spots, like s
Bubbs was mentioning them getting getting sent out of the
ring and having those rest moments and things like that.
So outside of that, I probably there were a couple
of times so I felt like time could have been
allocated more towards the Stephanie Vacquir match. But overall, yeah,
this was a great match. And to say like between
this and the opening were two of the weakest matches
when they are still good matches is saying something about
the show as a whole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good thing to have, right when, because
I don't think from obviously from what I hear and
then from what I saw, I don't think there's anything
that's like a like a three on the show, which
is good, Like we've had a couple of those, Like
even the last one was kind of like that, right,
So do you guys think it's also got war games next?
Do you think in between with the lineup? Is are
is Oscar carry on the Heel? And it's that right now? Okay,
because we can talk about because.
Speaker 2: We don't Oscar.
Speaker 4: I guess I think I remember off the top of
my head with the lineup for I think it was
Ria EO, Charlotte, Alexa and at.
Speaker 1: Least stacked face line right, and then.
Speaker 4: The Heel team was supposed to be Kyrie, Osca.
Speaker 2: Uh, Becky, Becky, Naya.
Speaker 1: And Lash Legend, which.
Speaker 4: I think they're pretty much gonna do like sort of
like what Seth did with Bronson, where it's like, well,
kind of the opposite because I have beat Lash, but
I guess she earned her respect somehow and she's gonna
be on the.
Speaker 1: Team because his Lash still she's still technically just in
next to you they never brought her up up right, Yeah,
I kind of hope that she is for a little bit.
I would love her to be Becky's heater. I would
love her to I'd love them to do like the.
Speaker 4: Sean for her to be like Naomi's.
Speaker 1: Oh that would have worked too awesously. That has to
wait for a bit, but like, yeah, if they could
do a Sean diesel those two and eventually get to
Lash break it off with Becky because like, I, god forbid,
I don't need like a Nia Lash take Like Lash
doesn't need to be in a team. And I just
like Becky and Lash is like a perfect you can
learn from her. That could be a good few dent line.
I think Becky's always looking to what's next.
Speaker 4: Keep putting people in the vision, like the yeah, like
you had to Lash and awesome theory, you have like
fifteen people.
Speaker 1: Next year when we do the card again, we're gonna
pitch the vision versus Don Calcama. It's just gonna be
a thirty man thirty woman battle oil between both of them,
which would be great. But yeah, like and that's where
Becky She's always like think about like what's next, Like
eventually I imagine they're gonna do her and a J,
which is ag is up and seen all but like
Her and AJ And then you get to if she
lose that title, honestly, they can go to the main
title or that's where you can have a program lash
right away. Right it's like the you know, I'm the
legend that you let down, Like Becky's always very smart
that way and deciding like what her stories are gonna
be in advance.
Speaker 3: So Seth did say to Stephanie Vick here at the
end of the thing, my wife's coming for that.
Speaker 1: Belt, yeah, which was fun. So yeah, we'll see. And
then so we got war Games and then there's no
December Piel betweens, and they're kind of stacking that.
Speaker 2: Seth versus Punk for the title as the main event.
Speaker 4: Then you have Tiffany versus Jade for the title.
Speaker 1: But we've been going in circles for god so long
with this. Now it's just like, oh boy, and then
yeah I can Yeah.
Speaker 4: The third match is uh, it's Drew versus Jacob number
one contenders match for the dirt A Championship, and then
the rumored War Games has Jacob in it, so he's
facing Cody Hans Survivor series.
Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, then then there you go. So and
they could have someone from the Vision screw Jacob al right,
he just like this an't remember randomly how they just
had like Jay and johnsena bump into each other and
Johnson's like, wouldn't suck if you lost the and like
that's all you can do is Jacob just bumps into
Bronze and read and like and then soon like like
that that's all it's gonna be. So yeah, I could
see that. Yeah, I was surprised Drew.
Speaker 4: Didn't get on the on the war Games. He like
like two other years he like like snuck into the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's getting that title shot this year. But well,
I guess that's where we can we're all over. We'll
jump to the main now because we're talking about war
games and stuff, and yeah, it was this match went
completely different than I think we all fan he booked
last month. We're like, oh, it's gonna be Cody getting
hit with a spear. So you know, i'man I thought
for sure, all there, that's when they're leaving Drew and
Nudgres just like like you said, he's got a match
coming up. So and you know what, it is kind
of refreshing. I don't mind. Like it's not like Cody
is losing to Dom or something like that. He's losing
to Seth, who's supposed to be one of the best,
right And even if Seth cheats, it's like it's in
a way where he does it. It's him alone.
Speaker 4: He found a way to do it right of him cheating,
like he did all his moves to Cody, and Cody
still kicked out, So yeah, Like, and he was saying like,
I'm not gonna cheat, I'm not gonna cheat, but he
kept doing literally everything that Cody and Cody survive, so
eventually it was just like.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna cheat.
Speaker 1: And there's more and that, Like, I don't think they're
linking up again anytime soon, but there's more story for
the next time they verse, right, because I think the
next time they verse could be easiest dips match, right
because Cody can bring it up about him cheating, and
these guys always have good chemistry. They had a really
good trill jew when Cody came back, and I thought
this match was really good too, because at first they
were working a little slower than it because Cody likes
to work slow. But there's a part of okay, they
really haven't ramped up, but then they ramped up, like
when Seth did the Coast to coast head but I
was like okay, and then after that they ramped up
really fast with table spots and like suit like the
fact that they did a crossroads like ADL like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna yeah two k that's got to be
a super finisher and need that out the road.
Speaker 4: See he's only done it, I think one other time.
He did it once to Derby.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was gonna say. Darby's a fucking
guy that like he's a small the guy that like
you could throw off a building and Stu like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Good, it makes sense like twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah there you can't there. There's about fifty actually seventy
percent of things that Darby does that most wrestlers cannot do.
So of course it's still impressive. But when he does
it Darby, it's like, yeah, of course it's Derby, right.
But when Seth because Cody's death. I think Cody even
teased that in the Sena match, right, and I think
we joke for like that's not.
Speaker 4: If he does That's the For me, it was like
if he brings out a sledgehammer or does the avalanche
cross from Desina.
Speaker 1: This, Yeah, and that's where he did do it here,
and like kudos to them because it's like it's they're
both bigger guys the way to it. So no, they
they work really hard and the only thing I get
it because and not with the match. I thought the
match was great. These guys got great chemistry. And I
hope at some point that Seph los that title and
gets on Cody's roster and they have it for like
the big belt. Because even then they were commentary. I
get what they're doing, but multiple times they're still talking
about the w Championship is like the top thing, and
it's like I don't do that, and we're trying to
make Seth the guy. And I get it because I'd.
Speaker 2: Betzy both the people to be the strackdown people.
Speaker 1: So you can tell, right, So I do hope that
to me, at some point, I do want a proper
Cody vision Seth.
Speaker 4: You like, like I don't think many of this year,
but like I could see like a summer slam or
or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So I think they did really good. The
only thing bungle for this, and I get it because
Stephanie talked and then she came and posed them. You
could tell when steph got the crowd got the mic
any bad verbiage when he's like, I'm the only man.
The second he did that, you can see all the
crowd looking towards the ramp and then oh, I definitely was.
I was like, alright.
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't did it wasn't.
Speaker 1: When he's when he said I'm the only man, I'm like, oh,
And honestly I thought I was gonna be Brock. To
be honest, I was like ship, like they're sending up Brock.
But then yeah, because the whole crowd and then the
polters went on, I was like, okay and stuff, but no,
the match was really really good. But what alot do
you expect from Cody And said like, I think it's
like I saw your scores, but like I think I'm
I think I'm the same, Like a four I needed
a little extra for me to get there, Like a
five need like a little.
Speaker 2: That's right, rough, Like four point five is like a
really great match.
Speaker 4: Four point seven five is like the highest, don't given
match that like I'm not like personally like invested in
and a five for me is like it's like an
amazing match with like a story that I was like
super invested in.
Speaker 1: Or just something crazy like for me, like I don't
think you have that, but the same thing like I
have like mocks and Hangman as a fiver. I would
never say that's a five star classic, but that's just
purely the like enjoyment five star where like start to finish,
this was just a great time. Which also with Little
AJ and Styles some people had that too, where it's
just like is there a psychology in this match? No,
but it's just like it's a great time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I put on Twitter like these two guys
were putting on a they didn't achieve a five star,
but they were putting on a five star match for
two guys who didn't need to put on a five
star match, like it was not needed at this moment,
but they were going all out.
Speaker 1: They saw they saw seen an AJ, They're like, fuck,
we get it.
Speaker 3: And then to your point about what he was saying
when he was doing his postmatch talk and everything like that,
I had seen by this point on Twitter, the pictures
of seeing Punk just out in the crowd like watching
me too. So I'm thinking that Punk is gonna run
in and just like clock him out from behind, and
you know, that's how they were gonna set up to
what's going on at Saturday Night's main event. And like
everything about that just felt like, Okay, you're you're setting
up your next match. Here we go, here's the big
ending to this, but nope, just all right bye, we're
going home now.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then we have the same thing I think they
probably do, like a like a CM Punk versus l
A Knight number one contender.
Speaker 1: Or La Knight gonna have to eat the loss after
seeing Punk embarrassed and on that mic, there's nothing worse
on bringing up fake booking and as a character you
can't say anything about it. It's like La Knight can't
book himself to be like it's not a real sport.
He can't win the world title. But he's just he's
just sucked there, and I don't know, he might always
be stuck there, like barring an injury to somebody, is
are they ever gonna shrap Elly Night? I really don't know.
I just don't. I don't know because like after this like,
even though it feels weird, like if we are getting
Seth and Roman WrestleMania something about Rome with the World
Away Tale. This feels super weird, but I could see
them doing it. But even though I like long term booking,
I feel like Seth wins that am I alone in
that with Seth and Roman wrestle Well, I guess you
went last year though, right?
Speaker 2: Roman has never beaten Seth at all.
Speaker 1: One on one. Really I did not know. Well, then
it's over for Seth. I did not know that at all.
I thought there was one win in there. Wow. Really geez? Yeah, okay,
well then yeah, then I think Rome would win, and
then you maybe start to break up some of the
vision a little bit because you know, or change out
some members or they do the you can easily eat
the role after have Braun and other people just destroy
Seth right eve though, I don't want Seth to be
a baby right now. But really that's crazy, Okay.
Speaker 3: Actually it looks like there's one time where Rains beat
him and it was on a random raw, not a
random outside Yeah, outside of that, in any other like
the Big Plus stuff, yeah yeah, yeah, has been all rollins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's fair. It's it's like the in the
Sena Age thing, right, they talk about the trilogy, but
they did have a fourth mat chun snack Down that
no one talks about at all, or same thing. I
remember when Triple H and Undertaker versus at WrestleMania at
twenty seven, they refuse to talk about wrestling at seventeen. Yeah,
until we're all after promos like I've faced Day before,
I've even faced him at WrestleMania before. It's like, what
the whole time you guys went, Like when they would
show the streak videos, they would not have Triple H
in them. It's like, we all know he beat him
at WrestleMania already. It's just they're they're funny that way.
But yeah, so no, this was a good match. Excited
to see what happens for them both obviously, Like yeah,
you guys said, Cody's got Drew again, which I'm hoping
is Drew actually winning this time, because if it's it's
just Drew losing again, like give Cody somebody else, you know,
it's just like Drew can, He's got to stop losing
so much here. But hopefully this Randy Drew thing pays off.
And then Seth. Now do you think that the seconds.
Speaker 4: The title like adis Survivors Series, Like, I don't think
he holds that until Mania.
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think so. I think.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, at the Rumbler or like the elimination.
Speaker 1: Chamber, Cody or Randy, well he could he could put
his title in the chamber.
Speaker 4: Maybe he would be like defending the Chamber and like
Cody wins it there because I.
Speaker 2: Mean, because people, let's say they're doing.
Speaker 4: Punk and Cody, actually this works, are either Randy and
Cody or Punk and Cody. I'd say Cody doesn't win,
like he's in the chamber match and whoever he's facing
at Mania wins the title first and the drop it.
Speaker 1: Oh at Mania because at my my or I mean
I thought Randy wins Rumble and then Cody wins Chamber
and that that was my ord Chicago, So oh okay,
yeah you.
Speaker 2: Can do that.
Speaker 4: That's in the US for the first time in like
five or four years, and it happens to be in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even even though you would not have I don't
think you're having Punk win beat Drew for the title
at Chamber. I think that'd be like in a.
Speaker 4: Chamber match, like you're not doing like a one on one,
but like, yeah, like call back.
Speaker 1: To and to me, the more interesting story is Cody's
champ with Punk is the challenge. I don't think that
that story unless Punk's going heel, which obviously last year
just happened and we don't know if we need to
do that again with like Cody versus the the heel turner.
Like I feel like, yeah, Nail, we don't call the
personality they're gonna come out and the low blow Cody.
But no, I feel like the story has to be
Cody's champ and seeing because the whole thing is Cody's
always talking about he's Eclipsedunk, right, It would feel weird
if Cody's chasing Punk, So it almost have to be yeah, yeah,
Drew's not winning this thing. I'm gonna say that right now.
At one point I thought he was, unless it's like, uh,
he's dropping on a Saturday Night's Made event to Cody
right away.
Speaker 4: You know, you could have Cody walk into Means like
a former five times.
Speaker 1: You could, Yeah, you could. Yeah, Like, the only way
Drew's winning is if he's getting the edge. Two thousand
and five Run where he had it for three weeks
and then seen A beat him for it right away,
and there's no story that. Yeah, But like I said,
we have to wait and see because I just I
just fully don't believe the seeing Punk Cody thing. Yet
I'm fully down for I think they could have a
great match. I just like I don't know. I also
I do. I do think they are seth and rollm
and I've said that before, and I guess we do
have to wait, Like I know it's a meme, but
I legitately have to wait and see, like is Austin
on or off? Because if Austin's on, I don't I
don't think I got it's gotta be punk in Austin.
They're not gonna They'll be Drew in Austin watch and
Drew eating a Stunner and that's it.
Speaker 4: It was like starting like one of the rumors like
WrestleMania matches, like you know.
Speaker 2: Unreal or like I guess sort of planned ones.
Speaker 4: It was supposed to be Drew versus Braun for the
Icy title with Austin as the ref.
Speaker 1: God, what a fucking universe, GMO Nightmare book and that
one that is.
Speaker 3: I think that if they can pull off getting Austin
in there against Punk would take the pin in every
match between now and Mania if he knew that he
was going to get Austin at Mania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, I I and Punk could lose
a bunch of something the matter. So, yeah, it's interesting because, Yeah,
I think Seth and Row, especially Romanso division, I think
that's still clear. It's just the Cody thing that's not
clear at all. And obviously we gotta wait and see.
Injuries can always happen. Punk was versting Seth that wrestling
or like I said, my my big fears, they just
they just wait till because like I've seen people talk
about that too, where Seth and Punk at the Knights,
that could just be like a DQ finish. You got
war games like there is a scary predicament where Set's
the champion and seeing Punk wins the chamber at Chicago
and it's punkin again.
Speaker 4: Booth say that, like the Punk Seth like story is
gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like done by the end of the year.
Speaker 4: It makes me think him not saying like Survivors or
at like what's yeah at Survivor series or that sta
nice sing that makes me think like, yeah, that's Staen
nice saying it could be like a d Q or
like blatant distract. I don't think DQ, but like a
blatant distraction or like being cost by someone.
Speaker 1: And then because there.
Speaker 2: Is also like the John Cena's Last Match.
Speaker 1: Show, yeah, which they should make.
Speaker 4: Because because the because Dave said, like, the only match
plan for that show is John Cena's Last Match, which
kind of makes me wonder like could it just be
like like an hour.
Speaker 2: Of like video package.
Speaker 4: I think, so interviews and stuff like that, and then
you just get like the last match, Like are there
gonna be other matches.
Speaker 2: On that show?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would mind it if they did that, honestly,
Or what I would do is for the opening match,
I would do a twenty man bat royal of all
past Sena opponents and have them just fight and that's it.
But like I honestly, if they want to make Certa
Knights main event just the Scena match and tributes and stuff,
that's fine because then we probably know.
Speaker 4: That of like like if you look at the show,
it's Saturday Nights main event.
Speaker 1: John Cena's Last Match is like yeah, and I find
that because like the same thing of like we worried
about the speech and the match can cut like to
ensure that that doesn't happen. Put it, just do one.
Speaker 4: Because they're not on NBC anymore, they're just on right,
So I'm one. I'm curious on like the November one,
just to see what it looks like in terms of
like the ads and stuff like that, because if it's
as just like a because before because before Sentil was
on TV, it was like like TV matches, like you'd
get ads in the middle of the match. I'm wondering
now that on Peacock will just be like how like
before after the match, but.
Speaker 1: Or my hope is that they at least do like, hey,
we're gonna distributes to all this stuff and that's where
the ads are, and then it's like, hey, for the match,
is gonna be like how they do like oh first
hour of rock commercial free Like that's obviously, but yeah, yeah,
I would want the reverse where they do all the
ads in the first hour. Then it's like the scene
of match and the ending is like that's no ads,
let's go, because it's a bit like again I'm not
a Goldberg fan, but like he's not incorrect of like
that was kind of like a shitty send off of
like getting cut up like one more thing and then
ding ding like that we all figure like all new
and stuff. So yeah, I'd be completely fine. That's the
once in a lifetime thing. I don't love these reports
of I don't need any politicians there. I don't care
about right or left. I don't I don't need John
Cena shaking hands with Trump or Obama in the front row.
Like let's not make this lot like just have the
man go on, like, I don't need this to be
like a like I it's just I don't know, this
could get really weird. And I am worried about some
of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Think of that w W Capital Punishment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the posters like John c Stereo and like
Obama referee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were trying to get Obama there for
that show. That was a legit thing they were trying
to get ended.
Speaker 3: Up having some sort of fake Obama doing like a
special message.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they did that unfortunately twice. There's one time
he wrestled Hillary and then one time he wrestled uh John,
like fake John McCain. Like they had like awful stuff.
Let's move along. We talked about that stuff, and then
before we get to see it in an a J
we had the opening street Fight, which, yeah, I said,
my opening like was good. I just thought it was
very like how showish and I'm happy Bronson one fun
enough a good opener. I felt like Roman actually was
a little bit quicker in his entrance. They looked like
he had to you know, maybe you had to get
back to Street Fighter. I know, it just felt almost
like they're like, hey, you guys took way too long
last time.
Speaker 4: You gotta like speed up a little bit, like this
is more than their first match, just because like that
one was like it was like, well I said it
last sight, like Roman the only matches he's worked in
like the last like five years or like pay per
view main events, and he was acting like that was
like like that Bronzon.
Speaker 2: Matches wrest for the championship, like he.
Speaker 4: Was working over Bronzon for so that match was like
and remember the whole post match angle, like that whole
was like an hour.
Speaker 1: Of it was it was fifty five minutes or something
like that legitially fifty five minutes. The whole show is
just Roman and Bronz, and which is like like I
like them, but like I know, like they don't deserve
that like that much for just this, Like it was
a few about shoes really, you know, and like yeah, yeah,
travel Thief, Yeah, the trial thief. Yeah, what do you
think about this match?
Speaker 3: It was a good match. It felt more like a
TV main event match than it did the opening of
a p l E. Yeah, it was fun watching Roman
get out the cricket bat or get out the rugby ball,
you know, all those things that reminded me of like
how Shamus has his themed match and other people have
like the Viking Raiders have their themed streak bies like it.
Just it reminded me of that, like, okay, we got
to pull out the thing to pop all of Australia.
But other than that, yeah, it was a good match.
I had put my predictions in the chat and I
figured that Bronson was winning this and it ended up
just like I thought. It was funny at the end,
Roman talking to the Uzzo Sinson, I don't want to
see y'all till Christmas.
Speaker 1: So yeah, which, oh, thank you for reminding me. I
always gotta throw a track. My favorite fucking or my
least favorite fucking trope is like he accidentally speared you.
It's not like he turned against or anything. It's like,
why would that be. I don't even want to see you.
I don't want he like, because what if from Roman's perspective,
if you look at it from a character basis right,
he's mad that they came out and speared him. If
they didn't come out, it would just been the too
on one beat down. So either it's you got your ass.
It's the two options. Are you got your ass beat
and maybe possibly injured again, or your cousins came out
and yeah, they couldn't help you win the match, but
they came out and helped you avoid like getting destroyed me, Like, no,
this is not the way it works. It's like I hate,
like I wish there was some other way. I hate
any time when it's the rest are gets hit accidentally
and if they're fine after, that's cool. But if they
get hit and it's like the world ending thing, like
I don't want to see you for two months, get
out of here with this, and so like, because what
else you We're gonna beat Bronson on your own. So
it's just yeah, and I just don't like we got gram.
Speaker 3: Was taking it to you and your cousins come out
to help. If they didn't, they need to be like,
hey where were you guys, let's get my ass what
what happened? But no, they actually come out to help. Yeah, exactly,
take that that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where I would have loved it if
suddenly happened they didn't help. And that's the issue where
it's like, hey, I really need you, but like, no,
we're getting bloodlined drama on twenty twenty five. And I
was actually fine with the Jay, like he's acting a
bit too much like tribal chief from Like okay, that's
there's some interest there. I get that, but I don't
need all three.
Speaker 2: Of those fighting we're actually getting.
Speaker 1: But no, there's they won't. There's no way they do
it at Mania. I bet that's my brain.
Speaker 2: They're not giving them.
Speaker 1: They can't do it. There's no way that that is
that maybe in Saudi, let him have it in Saudi,
you know, but yeah, no, we'll see what happens, I
you know, I yeah, I just I'm done with this
stuff with the blood. I was on the blood line
a long time ago, and here we are, like we
just put them back together in a way, what. They're
happy and now it's they're fighting again. And thank god
Sam he's on SmackDown just doing his open challenges and
that's it, you know, to be right n F. Yeah,
he's still in a blood Goddamn, he's in his own
bloodline feud. He really is. So then next up after that,
we had the women's Crown Jewel was Stephanie versus Tiffany. Yeah.
I thought this was like a good match. It just
was if you compare the men's to this, it just
felt like the men's like this is the big you know,
men's champions champion and this again, this to me felt
like a house match. Was like yeah, you guys got
you know, ten twelve minutes go, and it just for
them both being the champions of the brand. And also,
like I'm assuming because I didn't see Avery episode oft NXT,
they never had these women go one on one, right,
like this is the first time ever. Yeah, and even
though it was a dq finished the first time that
raw Termania when they had Stephanie and Igo one on
that felt special. That's like, man, there's something here. And
that match was really for nothing. It was just like
a hey, let's have like hype for the crowd, right,
So this like to me, I know, Dave, you said three,
I think like another like five to eight, Like this
should have got way much more time, Like I was
missing something.
Speaker 4: If you look at like Tiffany's like big matches or
like the title matches. The only ones she has above
like fifteen minutes that aren't like a stipulation are like
against just like the most like top.
Speaker 2: Tier Charlotte, Trish Bailey, Tricias.
Speaker 4: The Trish mash was like eight minutes. Yeah, Jade at
SummerSlam was like seven minutes. Then they had like a
rematch on SmackDown those like eleven minutes. Then all her
other matches are like like thirteen or fewer, which is
like I say, yeah, like because I was surprised this one.
Those like so short at ten minutes when you look
at it, she doesn't really have that long of matches.
Speaker 1: So is that Tiffany thing? Is that a booker thing?
Is that a thing that they feel Tiffany, Well, that's
not great for me?
Speaker 2: Or like like what do you mean?
Speaker 3: I think that she should be booked for a lot longer.
And then if she if you book her in two
or three matches, maybe I'll smack down or something and
she's not able to go okay, then yes, pull it back,
but at least put her out there to give her
that time. Like if the booker is just saying, hey,
we only trust her to have a ten minute match.
That's especially against someone of Stephanie Vickker's stature. Because the
men's UH Crown Jewel Championship match went three times as
long as this. Every other match went twenty minutes or
more like, so they're the only ones who are sitting
at ten minutes. And I think even if you didn't
trust Tiffy that much, which I think she could, We've
seen her do it with less talented people across the ring.
I think that if she can do it with Stephanie,
she could have got thirteen fifteen minutes out of that
match easily.
Speaker 1: Because I do think stuff like that will because even
though like I do think it's so ball like they
are and the androids and the presentation, I think stuff
like that will in a couple of years when you
talk about like the amount rushmore of the people right now,
it will stop her from getting there because you have
something like Rihea that has all that stuff that she
has but then she can go put on like a
f I start twenty five minute match, right, And that's
thing with That's where I just wonder if like does
she get that booking sheet and she's like yeah cool,
or is she like, hey, I'd like to go boar
about the book is like ah, like this is the slot,
like we think you're good here and this is like
that's what I mean by are they are they happy
with what they have here and they don't want to
really go above that? Or she also just like yeah cool,
because there's some people all time like that. Well, not
that she's this, but like they're One of my favorite
quotes that Brian Danielson said on Seampunk's documentary was sometimes
there's wrestlers and catering that are afraid to be approached
by an agent because they might get booked for like
a main event match or something. And the same thing
of like is Tiffany that I'm not saying she's afraid
but just say like like ah, like like do we
gotta do twenty minutes? Like we can just get this
done and like whatever.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So that's where that's where I just don't know of
like and I hope not because like we've seen her
do good stuff, and I just thought this was a
time where I was expecting. I remember, we got this
something really good, and this was I will forget about
this match in a weekend. Wasn't a bad match, and
that it should have. Like I said, EO versus Stephanie
on Raw randomly should not be stars above this. But again,
both like big time workers and Tiffany's you know, she
like she's not like a worker worker. She's like was
a gymnast and came up a different way, right, So
and you know, also bad comparison because she's like one
of the best rest of the world. But still it's
just like if you want to get to that like
tippy top level, because then eventually we've seen w fans,
they're fickle and eventually they'll catch on and Tiffany will
lose some stuff. But I guess they can always turn
her heel. They never did what they heal.
Speaker 4: They mentioned to like Tiffany Stratton like stepped into a
wrestling ring for the first time, not even had a match,
just like stepped into a wrestling ring for the first
time four years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which again, and that's the thing, right, And that's
where it's like for me, I do forget that. So
it's something that Okay, that's still like very young in
the business, but at the same time they've put her
in this top spot, right, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm curious if it's like how they
just like see her that way, unless it's like someone
who can just say, like like a Bailey or Charlotte.
It's like, yeah, I'm going twenty five minutes on SmackDown
with ye to me. But yeah, I'm curious on when
it goes, especially like if they're doing a third Jade match,
I feel like Jade like has to win.
Speaker 2: It at this point or else he's just like she's done.
Speaker 1: She's she has to even if it's her turning heel
to get it, which they should do. They should have
her cheat to win and then she can be like
that bitch Jaye and you can have Tiffany Chase for
a little bit because the same thing of like and
that's smacked out, Like if Jade, if you if you.
Speaker 4: Turn, I think the best possible option is like like
the Jade He'll turn to win it and then like
Bianca comes back and that would probably be like Abia match, right,
or she like like je No, I think I think
bank would be Jade before Mania because I just I
don't know if.
Speaker 1: They want to put like j Jade and am like
she had that Mania match with Iowa, but to put
her in like one of the top spots of by Bianca,
that's that's the top like to me, like the money
is also, I wouldn't want it, I guess. To me,
I think what they would do is if they give
her the title, it would be almost like the unreal
j thing where it's like, well, let's see what happens
and then maybe Tiffany just beats her randomly on a smack,
like I could see more Tiffany and Bianca at Mania
that and that's the other thing to a Jade. Why
I think she still could lose is they've been like
obviously she lost Stephanie, but I feel like they've been
really playing up the like how dominant Tiffany is and
like this rain she's having and how long she's had
the title. Like so I think if you're they're gonna
do that, I would actually rather her not lose to
Jade and just play it up when you get to
Bianca because then it's that like unstoppable force moveable object,
which like, yeah, when is Bianca back, because like that's
that's crazy, Like I know it was a bad break
when they end up saying, but that's crazy that just
like this finger issues taking her out for so long
that sucks, man.
Speaker 4: Like this backstage and SmackDown like two weeks ago or
three weeks ago, and then but she wasn't on the show,
but she was spotted and like it was reported that
she was backstage.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I guess I could see, Like I said,
I could see. I still think they're doing it depends
on the tag team, but I still think they're gonna
do Rii and Stephanie and then I'm not sure that's
the only thing if I just don't know where if
Rhea breaks up with EO, where they put her in unless.
Speaker 4: It's like EO is happening at like I think this,
especially with it being in the same city, I feel
like they're gonna sort of play on like a sequel,
like with the Roman and Seth match, like they were
in the Triple Threat last year. I think you could.
I'm still pushing. I still think it's gonna be ri
and EO at Mania. I think either Ria or EO, like.
Speaker 2: There's gonna beat Stephanie before then.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, My only back door pitch is if they
don't do that, I could see them getting Eleo and
SmackDown and they run EO and Julia and finally give
you thing to.
Speaker 2: Say they're teasing more Julian Stephanie.
Speaker 1: Right yeah no, But at the same time, is that
a step down for Stephanie to go from the world
time and then be like I'm taking your US title right,
like you'd almost have to give it has to make
a blood few Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love it.
Speaker 4: To do like the I feel like if even like
it doesn't matter like what titles were like, if you
have them have the match like at Mania, that could
be like like one of the matches of the night.
Even if it's the like that would probably it wouldn't
be a step down for Stephanie, would probably be a
step up for the US title.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, yeah, that my pitches then, and then then
you have Stephanie lose it before the Rumble and you
run the Kurt angle Shawn Michael set up where is
that the Rumble and Shawn Michael's eliminated Kurt angle and
he came back to the match and just destroyed Sean
and run his chances. That's what I would take is
you you throw Julia, she comes back in and just demolish,
just stepped and what was so good? The rum is
going on, and then off the side you would Curt
angle laying shaw Michaels on the steps, just like breaking
his ankle. So there was like a full five minute
like obliteration going on. Well the run, like the guys
weren't down the ring, the rum was still happening. It
was just Kurt, you know, beating shaw Michaels up for
five minutes. It was like geez, like that's my pitch
for because that would be like sure that us titles there,
But it's not even that. It's about like Steph and
he wants to get back at Julia, right and then
it's like, oh, I'll take your title because yeah, so no,
it's just it's interesting they got tons of like avenues
for it's the women, and then I think the man.
I think we have like three to four matches that
are like it's probably this, but the women there's like
eight to ten matches. It could be for like your
top singles match.
Speaker 4: You know, I feel like right now even they don't
really know, like because even an unreal that December and
then like I'm pretty sure like one of those.
Speaker 1: Matches Michael hay is gonna say something fucking stupid like
wood Maxine to pre be great for Julia and then
like boom, it's off, We're off to the race. You know, Maxims.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: When whichever woman just most recently walked past Michael Hayes
is the one that's getting booked.
Speaker 1: I think she's pretty great, you know. So yeah, no,
we'll have to see. But yeah, that's that's what's interesting.
It's it's a fun season that way, so and we'll
speak about, you know, fun season. Unfortunately, we won't have
this man here, John Cena versus AJ styles entrances were great,
age because I've said this before on the show. I
every day I don't think it's gonna happen before it retires.
Every day since he's come to w W, I've been like,
when's AJ gonna cut his hair? Jokes on me, he's
never cut his hair. My AJ is like I was
man because I watched those because I remember my auntie
she had. I'm not sure if you guys said this,
but back in the day, it was like illegal streaming
for satellite dishes where you could get like a certain
chip and you get like all the stations.
Speaker 2: I remember it was like a little box.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so something like that. So back in the
day when Tina used to be the weekly TEENA pay
per views, that's how I watched and was at my aunties,
and I remember being, man, I I love AJ Styles
and that that that magazine cover they showed, like I
have that, and that look like to me, my fair
AJ is that two thousand two to two thousand and five,
the shorts, the short hair, southern and the most southern
he's ever been, like because he just said that he
had the perfect underdog fuel AJ styles and when he
was a heel, it was apposet like he was just
like a piece of shit, Like, man, I want to
see this guy get beat up, but he's so talented, right,
So man, I loved all callbacks and I love that
they did just on the night make it like WW
versus teen A. Like obviously AJ was doing some other moves,
but sevent magazine, yes, yeah, and it was and that
was that was a dream match, right, And like I'd
say seventy percent of the moves that AJ did is
like the stole moves were all Samoa, Joe Sting, CHRISTOPHERD. Like,
this was tons of fun match, yeah is it? Like
I think it's like four or five minutes when Senior
hits the first AA, it's like, Okay, we're just gonna
do a finisher spam. But guess what we saw the
first half this retirement tour. I'll take the finisher span
matches over what we were again with Randy and Punk,
Like I hate that the Punk and Sina match didn't
get this like it it like when I saw Punk
in the crowd, I was just like, man, like, it
just sucks that they could have done some I don't
mean exactly, but could have had this and it's just
like Penta and Seth and like all the stuff. It's like, man,
it just that first half this tour really sucks. So
and obviously we just had Brock last month, but this
was just this was a roller coaster ride, tons of fun.
Like this is a a junk food type of match,
but like junk food sometimes is good. So they they
delivered big time and it was and honestly too, I
didn't see it come, but when seeing it hit, uh,
the sister Abbagail and the crowd had this stuff up.
I was getting choked up, like this was a I
almost wish, like I'm excited for Gunther, but this almost
could have been the last match, like this could have
like it was just a perfect This.
Speaker 2: Almost felt like it was like A's retirement.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think like in terms of like I
feel like, play the biggest match he's gonna have, like
until he retires, like if he stays hold.
Speaker 1: I hope that TRIPLEH saw this and was like you
know what, fuck it? Like not they can't make it
as big as Sena, but like this guy can still go.
The fans love him. Like. Let's like I wouldn't complete like.
Speaker 4: An opponent because like even if you say like Cody,
like he already faced.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, Cody, Well yeah I guess, yeah, I
guess yeah, technically know him could be bigger than Sena,
But I would love it if they gave him like
Randy and Seth like and even Roman like, like I
I hope Triple kind of woke up. It's like, oh
I got a massive star retiring here, you know, like
I'd be completely down if they do the same thing.
Speaker 4: The title you could do like yes, after wrestling Inia
thirty two.
Speaker 1: Run it back backlash, yeah exactly or even then my pitches.
I don't think they'd ever do it. I would love
if they let AJ have the two thousand and five
edge Roum where he won the title from like Seth
had it for three weeks and then just lost it
right away, Like you got fucking AJ styles, man, don't
just have him like be wrestling like I don't know
el grand for it. Yeah, like there's two doors. There's
what you're doing right now with Sena or the kurd
Angle retirement Tour. It's just like, and what are you
gonna picture by h? What are you gonna pick? And
last night to me showed like the people still love
AJ styles, Like don't we've seen what happens fun match?
Speaker 3: It was amazing. I would not knowing what they're gonna
do with this proposed gunther match. I would have looked
if this had been seen his last match and they
just did the spam the finishers and all these callbacks
and everything else and he still wins with you.
Speaker 1: Know the AA.
Speaker 3: I'd been like that was awesome as far as Aj. Yeah,
this looked like a double retirement. AJ's got his year left.
At some point. I do want to see AJ versus
Finn face off since they are going back to mentioning
the Bullet Club. I loved that entrance that at least
she gave him, like when they handed the card and
you could even see AJ was just like at one
like they mentioned. They mentioned this definitely, So it was
just it was awesome. It was a fan fest. It
was just a love letter to the fans. It was
them letting John Cena have some fun, them letting AJ
have some fun.
Speaker 1: And you know what did to me?
Speaker 3: It was match of the night, not because of the
work rate or anything else. It's just it was just
damn fun and enjoyable. And when it was over, I
uh went and I was like, I ran downstairs to say,
I just watched the most fun slash stupid slash fans
service match I've ever seen, and I will do it
again like those are. I came running downstairs afterwards, just
in glee of it all.
Speaker 1: It feels like the moment Dead pull Overraine when all
the cameos happened, like Electra comes through and play like
it was just that but flat for like a twenty
five minutes, you know, and yeah, it's yeah, I wish
they could. We wish they could have planned him, like
you know, that could have been last one, but you
know Uther will choke them out and you know that
that's it or anything.
Speaker 4: So I start speaking on that. Do you think Sina
wins his? Because I eventually I felt like no way.
I feel like I feel like there's a chance, you know, just.
Speaker 3: Just I feel like people offer it to them. But
I think that Sina will want to lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just yeah, because that's the same thing. If
he were to win, then then retroactively they should have
made this last match because I just and I also
just don't want that for gooing their you know, like
I don't want them to have someone else. I'll have
it be sham It's like like like when Edge versus
Shamans in his last debty imagine he wants It's like, yeah,
you could be Seamus. You know. That's why, like Shamus
doesn't need to win here and not like gud There
needs to win. But I do think the being if
they make it to be such a big spectacle, it
would be made great to like you know, help make
a start, because I guarantee the people that have watched Residence.
Speaker 4: Who like if they're doing this tournament, like who gooon
their beats like the way it's like like it depends
who's in this tournament, I guess, because I mean, if
he's beating like like Randy and like Punk and like
people like that to get to Sina.
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, he should probably beat beat Sena.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, I don't know. If he's Carmelo, Yeah,
it could be the few like I love Carmelo Hayes,
but like in the eyes of w B, he's like
his c to your guy right now, right, So it's
like that that to me is that's where for me
the tournament is all. And yeah, I guess that's good
talk about now where that's supposedly the rumor they're going
to do a tournament for the last pone for Sina,
which I think I like that concept.
Speaker 4: I guess there's also I guess sort of linking this back.
We're all over the place, but it doesn't matter no
supposed to Dom versus Sena for the Icy title at
Survivor Series.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's why because I didn't I miss that room,
and honestly, Dom, you're taking the one through three in
my opinion, you like you have another opportunity, fude. Yeah,
and then the sea Dom's gonna tap like No. To me,
it's like, if you're looking at moments he's never only
on Icy title, you do it what I'd actually love.
Don't think they would do it. I would mark the
hell out if they let scene it do a US
title design for the Icy title to make it that
much special to get like a do a spinner belt
like old school like what I like the first title
he won in WWE, and then the last time he
won he gets to like I would go full nostalgia
with that. But yeah, to me, it's like that's another
moment he wins the Icy title. It is weird for
Gunther to win that back like that. That's when I
only hold up and then he does a Samoa Joe
like I'm going for the world title, Like yeah, I
just it's weird. But at the same point, though, I guess,
like we've talked about, unfortunately not gonna be like that's
what I was gonna say. All the scenarios we've talked
about goother's not around you know so, and that's where
it makes sense where he could have that and even
then like maybe make him double champ in the future.
I don't know, but it's the other thing that I
could see with the tournament is as if if they
stack with Punk Randy, Okay, that's great, Like they do
want to make it. I hope they make it a
big deal and it's not just like otis or something
like that. But I would also be fine with if
it is people that are of top tier but have
never first seen, because I think that would make sense.
Like it does feel odd for Randy and Punk to
be in it when they already haven't you joked? But
like for them Penta, they look at pentas like a
top tier one. Right there is Goonther bron Breaker, Like
could you imagine the finals being Goonther and bron Breaker,
Like it's Heelver's heel But let me pull up with
the wd roster. But that's why I would pitch it.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah is the reason. Uh he changed his
name in NXT. He like destroyed Goonther and like he
destroyed Walter and like embarrassed them.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm good, they're not.
Speaker 1: They had that they had him destroy Well, I never
saw that.
Speaker 4: I was broad like a next T two point zero
when he had like two matches experience.
Speaker 1: Really, because this is like Vin's.
Speaker 2: Booking X two.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, did they ever do Sina and Ballard?
Did that happen? They did? So, okay, so here's a
here to me, here's a cheat for it. They it
happened in a gauntlet, so they never did like a
one on one. Yeah, so you could cheat and have
Finn in there. So you have Finn. Let's say it's eight.
Let's see if you think of eight people that I've never
first seen us. Let's let's take what Broun, Gunther, Panta,
finn as I guess they probably put in bronze and
read right, I bet. So that's five. So if we
can find three more that are no, you know, he
reversed them, you know here reversed them. That's not happening.
I'm trying to think of, like, let's see, you could
have Alister Black or Priest for sure, actually priest. So
that's six. Ja, that's seven. We just need one more.
See one more like top tier Axe or like you know,
beat to I bet he did when he was the
chosen one. Even Drew McIntyre versus Johnson. You know when
did it happen here?
Speaker 2: It happening in nineteen or something.
Speaker 1: No, it apparently in AI Google. The first thing it
says is they've never had a one on one match.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's your last person.
Speaker 1: Yeah so see that. That that to me, Finn Drew Bronson,
Ree Brown Breaker, gooon th people.
Speaker 4: Would be mad that, like unless they specifically they would
have to specifically say only people who've never faced seen
him before, it can be in this tournament.
Speaker 1: That's what I would say. People mad, Yeah, I would
say that where it's like, hey, we want this is
for we want to have a first time ever match
for his last match, and we're gonna give one of
these new people to And I think you can even
have John Cena cut some fucking social media promo. But
like the same way Kurt Angle did for me, I'm
gonna do for this person and it's gonna be their
roofless aggression all Like they.
Speaker 4: Did that once in in NXT last year, they had
a gauntlet match for like a number one contender for
the women's championship and it was only people who've never
changed for the never before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love when they do that stuff because like, okay,
this makes sense because it does feel like you're building
a stars so yeah, we we you could do that,
you know. So even then, as is Jay Uso technically
verse John cen on one on one because that's a tournament,
that's a tournament slot right there. Oh my god, I
don't even put that on the eather. But like have
they ever on a quick search? I don't think they've
had a one on one. I see some tags, but
I'm never so you know what they legitimate j could
easily have a spot. Jay and Jimmy you could make
the same ten to six man sixteen.
Speaker 2: You know finals.
Speaker 1: There you go. You're pitching your last man standing whatever match,
so yeah, there you go. So not that I care
about him because I'm not too invested, But when I
look at this list, where is Lodanpoul Like just offer
see injured right now? Like where is Paul right now?
Speaker 4: I think it's just like he just just disappears like
he does like the big shows and like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean there's back in the rumble, Like.
Speaker 1: I don't think, yeah, I just feel like this is
a big break. Yeah, yeah, no he did. Yeah no,
I just felt like this is like a big one
of his longer breaks. But yeah, no, honestly, look at
the roster. I think we nailed them the people it
could like. Ah, so you can get Tongua low in there,
you know, just to see what happens. But so has
to remember he did the whole you know things, So
well there you go. Anything do you want to speak
on I'm not sure if Dave so s pubs and
if he did, see you can just be on on
the Invasion. I saw the first five minutes of the
women's and then I had to go watch my old
star at dance because it was my Eternatyve dances a week,
So I'm I do plan and watch them because I
love uh the Survivor series style matchup. And I was
actually a sucker for the Invasion pay review back in
the day with W versus w W I, I actually
was a fan of that storyline until I got older
and realized we were missing all the big acts. But
as a kid, it was hype as a kid, as
a ten year old, it was hype seeing all that stuff.
But yeah, what do you guys sing with the show?
If you both I did.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch it, so I will let es, but
I seeing clips from the internet. Outside of the clips, yeah,
what wasn't really for me?
Speaker 4: Oh the show, I don't know. It felt like it
like sort of under deliver a bit a little bit.
Like the matches were like the women's match was like fine,
but there's definitely a lot of like botches and like mistakes,
like like people can like accidentally or like and I
think that Jordan actually said like she's like, shoot, never
refereed anything ever before. But I thought, well, the interesting
thing is like they put her as the referee for
the women's match and Joe Hendry is the referee for
the men's match, And I swear they literally had like
like I honestly generally forgot they were the special guest referees,
Like they didn't do it, Like they were just refereed
completely normally the entire match. Like I gently for Joe Henry,
like I'm thinking back and remembering the match and like
I just like I'm looking thoughts that happened in the match.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I guess jo Hendrey was just.
Speaker 1: The referee U like a face off, right or like
what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Like he just did it like completely normally and there
wasn't really anything that happened with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ones match like it was it was fine.
Speaker 4: I guess like it wasn't like the just like the
NXT team was just like way more stacked than the
than the TNA team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the TEENA team was like you said that,
the discord was mostly just either dobbetown or form of
metel right, because it was the Iconics inspiration. Then Colonial Jordan,
then it was who else who got which is Jakara Ja? Yeah,
she was released within the last like twelve months, so
it was just like it felt very w approved, like yeah,
we like, we like this.
Speaker 4: I've never seen like the the iconic slash the inspiration
rustledfore And there was one of them. I don't know,
I don't know which one of the two it was
because now they both have like blonde hair. Yeah, I'm
not sure which one was, but one of them was
like I was like, okay, I was like, this was
actually pretty good. I don't know which one of the
two it was, but there was one sequence I was like, Okay,
she's he's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like back in the day when
they got released, they were one of the very surprises
because they had like when they did the women's take titles,
they had obviously Saucia and Bailey win the first ones,
but then a month later they had the Iconics beat
them at WrestleMania. It was super weird, and they were
fully in on the Iconics liket, like lots of screen
time promotion and like whenever, like six whenever, six eight
months later they just released them. It was it was
a really weird situation there where they're like, yeah, we
like these people, but we're done with them. And yeah,
I know their contracts up in a month, so I'm
not sure if they're gonna make their way back.
Speaker 4: A lot of contracts they're up like super soon. I
think it said like fifteen contracts.
Speaker 1: He's gonna raid that in the next year twelve months.
W is gonna raid that poor place and that fucking president.
It's just like, yeah, I don't see any like I
don't know, man, wake up again. This is this is
aw New Japan all over again. Like they laid out
the playbook there. Look what they're doing in the Hardy's right,
they're up in a month. Legitimately, I think the Hardys
are going back to WW. I really think they're gonna
be back there, and they're on XT champs, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of the Hardys, they had the title match,
which was like it wasn't a good match, but ust
wasn't even then, like the Dark State guys like they're
like there's like one good wrestler in Dark State or
like one great wrestler, say, the others are like they're like, okay, yeah,
and he wasn't in this match. It was like two
of the other guys and they're the tag team champions.
But because also the guy who's the great wrestler is
like also the best talker in the group, so he's
always like on the outside, they don't put him in
these matches. But yeah, this match was like, I'm like,
these Dark State guys, I'm pretty sure they watched like
literally every single move and like, you know, Jeff was
out there, you know, he was doing his things, doing
his spots, like they were like really like catching him.
Speaker 2: Or doing anything.
Speaker 4: He was out there doing his whisper in the wind
and stuff like that. But you know, they won the match,
and it was the crowd was into it, yeah, but
it was it was like a It's like it wasn't
like terrible, but it was.
Speaker 2: Just like weird.
Speaker 1: I'll say sadly everybody, we will not be reviewing the
Hearty Studley's Finals table match. Well you have to look, I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna be watching for Glory because I just want to
see what this match is gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like like people said, watch best case scenario is no
one dies. Worst case scenario someone died.
Speaker 3: I will watch Bound for Glory just for the table mat,
but I'm not watching it live.
Speaker 1: I want to see us that will actually be Yeah,
that'll be tons of fun. So yeah, I'll.
Speaker 2: Catch it on for Invasion.
Speaker 4: The other Ali versus Etan Pat is actually a really
great match.
Speaker 1: Did Ali lose clean or did like Page do something
they did?
Speaker 4: The whole thing was like the the story was that
like all Lea was like like Kursten w W, like
like like he lost the WrestleMania like Rock took his
money in the bank. Yeah, like he had a title
shot and he got released, so he was like I'm
gonna break the curse and like it was a really
it was a really great match, and like near the end,
Ali did like like this crazy guy like all the
way over the announced table like onto Page, and they
were down there for like a really long time. I'm like, okay,
they have to be setting something up for this, And
so Ali runs out like from on the table and
he's his foot is like stuck in like one of
the cables, but like it was a really not cable.
So he gets like all the way like into the
ring and like off the or no, he climbed up
from the outside. He got onto the top rope and
like he notices that like his foot is like stuck
in the cable, so he goes down to like to
like take it out, and then Page like fully pushs
him off off the top rope to the floor and
he just like falls, just like takes just like a
straight fall from the top rope to the floor and
then Ethan Page runs outside, pulls him back in and
hits this fish and wins.
Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, yeah, Ali was always on two o five
like that. He's really good at thinking of those creative
finishes and whatnot. So yeah, that was another one too
that was always weird because he he legitimately at one
point was planned a verse Brian Dawnson at WrestleMania for
the title and then Kofe Maney happened, but legitimately that
was the plan at one point. It's just crazy how
it just goes from that to like, ah, we're just
gonna release you though you're on XT and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then there.
Speaker 4: Was the Men's Invasion match, which it was better than
the Wins match, but also wasn't like I don't know,
it just felt like they also are.
Speaker 2: Like under delivered.
Speaker 4: It feels like but yeah, in the end, Moose and
Santana were the two ones standing on the TNA team
and Trick walked out on his on his team.
Speaker 1: I saw that, Yeah, because they're doing Santana and Trick soon, right,
I think bound for Glory, Yeah, okay, and I imagine Santanna's
taking it the yeah, because I.
Speaker 4: Was thinking, like, I don't think they have like because
you got like Santana pinned Trick, then it's like, well,
he's losing. I guess if you have Trick just walk
out in like Santana. Just I feel like that doesn't
like I feel like Trick can lose without it being like,
oh he lost twice in a row or.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 1: And then get this man on the main roster right,
he's on the greatest ring, but it's it's time to
sink or swim for trick now.
Speaker 2: No more a Slater pinned match. Yeah, so when's the
X Division.
Speaker 1: There's something that I like about that as someone that
loved the X Division back in the teen days, like
Javon is he is, He's X Division coded all the
way through. So there's something I level like a small
even if it's just like a month or two run
for Javon's the X Division title, because man, like Ultimate
X Man, those matches I.
Speaker 2: Could see like they very clearly like Slater a lot.
Speaker 4: I feel like if they have a great match at
Bout for Glory, they could just like get him on,
like they could just do the match again at like Halloween.
Speaker 2: Havoc and.
Speaker 1: Slater's contract coming up, I don't think I feel like
that's one they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna until like at some point next year.
Speaker 1: I think whenever he's up, he's coming over.
Speaker 4: Joe Hendry and Jordan Grayson do for like a whole
year apparently, and they suddenly got a call that yeah,
their conference are coming up soon.
Speaker 1: There you go, you know what I want and maybe
you could do Leon Slayer two. But no what I want.
Give me a j Styles Javon Evans X Division Championship.
Give me that somewhere.
Speaker 2: Claire definitely wants the match, he like tweets about all
the time. I feel like it. I feel like it
is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I don't. The question is where.
But I think they'll do that in TEENA. But they
and yeah, I think I kind of want aged to
have one teen A match to close it all out.
He is, like he is to me the first guy
I think of with I it's him, Joe Daniels. I
don't know, it's like a combo of like sting Angle Cage,
like who's your Malet Rushmore David for that original teen
Because like I said, for me, it's Daniels, Styles and
Joe and that forced lot to me is kind of
like up in the air, like Monty Brown. I gotta
almost make an argument for Jlls and show are a guarantee. Yeah,
the Trinity. Yeah that foresaw it's tough.
Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't put Jeff Jared in there because
like a lot.
Speaker 1: Of his baby he was like Teenahan for like three
hundred years or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was a whole lot of I'm the
booker and I the only one who I know.
Speaker 2: No one's going to run.
Speaker 1: Off with my belt but me. So yeah, it made sense,
and he was good like he established he all at
that point.
Speaker 3: I mean, our Truth had had a good run with him.
But I wouldn't I wouldn't put him up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Abyss on this, Abyss, Yes.
Speaker 3: I'd say it would come. It would come down to
either Abyss or Kurt Angle. Even though people think of
Kurt Angle as a w W guy, he spent more
of his wrestling career in TNA, and he he established
them as legitimate.
Speaker 1: We should watch these matches, and the Joe Angle match
was big when that happened, that that that legitimately. I
don't think we ever thought t A was going to
overtake w t B. That was the one time where
they had lots of momentum where it's like, oh man,
this could be something. Then teenage always squanders it because
that was ten back in the day.
Speaker 3: But so Abyss or Angle would be in that four spot,
but the first three are pretty much locked in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely so. Well, speaking of Samoa, Joe wrestled
Dream Predictions and we could start there we start the
main event. So far, I think the card's looking pretty
good other than one in particular thing that ESPN share
with me last night. But yeah, we'll start with Hangman
and Joe. I think this is gonna be a banger.
I don't think it's gonna close the show, because I
do think they're gonna let Darby mocks. But I could
see what they're gonna do here is because Joe is
like a tweener right now and I could see where
he loses. But then the rematch, it's like the AJ
Cody Cody.
Speaker 2: Raise his hand or something like pissed off.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what, and then the rematch is some sort
of stick. I think that was gonna go. But I
think I think it was gonna be like a Saw
followed four start because I just my theories are gonna
be saving some stuff. That's what I think they're gonna
hold back a little bit because and then I think
the next show full gear, he will mane with Joe
and they'll make that like street fight, death match something.
But Joe and Paige, I don't know if they've if
they don't want to one it's been.
Speaker 4: The story is that Hangman is like like Joe never
I think Hangman never beat Joe or.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 1: It definitely yeah, look like well, yeah, I'm trying to
find when they had a one on one match. I
guess it must happen at some point if that's the story.
But all the clips right now are of course coming out,
but it's to me that's like a and it's so funny.
Last gimmick, we were all like, what are they gonna do?
And we said, they're gonna have to turn somebody, And
what are they doing? They turn somebody, which makes sense,
and Joe's a good guy to turn because Joe's like
I don't I don't think any of us believe he's
gonna win. But at the same time, like you never know,
Like even when Joe won the title the first time,
I was like, oh, really, like they're letting Joe beat M. Jeff. Okay, true,
and then we found out M. Jeff was injured as fuck,
But like Joe is that type of guy that Tony
could just wake up that being a day of like
you know what, I really love those ROH matches and
then you know, and then like so I don't think
he's gonna win, but I think it's gonna just be
a really solid, like hard hitting match. It's gonna be
an ugly match, which I like.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I think hang Man's winning this and
Samoa is gonna turn afterwards and it's gonna set up,
you know, a rivalry between them two. So Hangman better
get used to having his wife's name called out over
the microphone or those kids.
Speaker 1: And I just wonder with Hangman if he wins via
like a like a just a legit pinfall, or if
they pull like a roll up here or something like
he just catches Joe and that's how Joe's even more. Actually,
they could easily do the like Cokeita clutch into the
Brett Hart like legs up with the role like that's
one of my favorite pins ever, is the you roll
back and you use the guy's shoulders against them. So
I could see hang Man doing that to Joe and
Joe's all mad and sweaty. And then plus on Dynamite
next week. Can'tmember who they're defending the Trios title against. Yeah,
I don't see them dropping that. I guess.
Speaker 2: It's no Sammy's still banned from Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's us yeah.
Speaker 2: Beast Mortos and REALISTICO.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, see again, I would have I guess
we didn't even talk about that too. About ANDREI will
get there, but I kind of wish Andrati was over
there and then because if you got Rouge and and
Beasts like that, that could win. I don't think they're
dropping the titles then, but I could see Joe dropping
those Trios titles soon if he does the heel Turn,
because I just feel like that's gonna be a an issue, like.
Speaker 4: The titles, like honest, that's true, you're right right, like
like r O H just like permanently like yeah, or
at least just cross brand where they can go back
and forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, just Trios and it's like.
Speaker 4: They were they were unify like I forget who had
like someone had both of them and they like never
like that was like, okay, they're gonna unify them and
then they never did. Yeah, like different people end up
winning them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, weird stuff. Let's see here now we'll go,
we'll start the bomb work away up hurt Sydneyki versus demand.
I don't know what we're doing here. As I've said,
these guys have something on Tony Kahan, he have some footage,
they have something. They took him to Vegas and got
them in trouble, like, we do not need this again.
I legitimly thought when they did that street fight, that
was gonna be it and they'd move on. But like
the fact that we and so we get m VP,
oh we could. And the fact was I thought, what
was gonna happen because there's been MVP s had an
interview and there's been rumors that they might be adding
a fourth memor. Right, so when younger so, I thought
the story was gonna be MVPs in these matches they
lose and that's the story where in Review's like, hey,
I just don't got anymore, but I'm gonna find you
guys the right therapers, right, if this was he he
needs his went back? Yeah, but if this was the
Demand versus the Hurt Syndicate and it was like mystery partner,
and it was like that was really like, okay, I
could see that it's a new signing. You get a
pop fuck, go get wes Lee. I don't even know
why w W released. Like, to me, that's like a purple.
They're not getting Cedric because Cedric fucking went at t
TK on Twitter, So that's not happening. But like if
this was, it's a mystery opponent and Wesley comes out,
there's a pop. I get that. That's fine, that's a
pay per view spot, but just m VP Bobby and
Shelton again versus the demand, which like.
Speaker 4: You know, Wesley, contract for thirty days, let's do this
here and we're running back at full gear.
Speaker 1: He could no, it probably could, you know, and like, yeah,
like Werecochet's talents, but this is not what I want
for and it sucks because it felt like when he
got to aw he's just a good match guy. Absolutely yes,
But what sucks for Ricochet When he was doing this
like psycho nerd thing, it was starting to work. He
was starting to get some momentum as like he was
a loser, but if you cross him, he would like
sneak attacuous scissors. It was like this is but now
the demand just feels like they threw an anchor on
him and he's just like he should have stuck here.
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 2: To Wesley, they get like these two other big guys
to be like his tag team, and like how that
work out?
Speaker 1: So this will likely be my I'm gonna eat bathroom.
I just like and again I'm not a big hurt
some fin In general, I was starting to like the
end of their tag run they took the titles, but yeah,
I got no excitement for this whatsoever. At least this
could why didn't they make this the street fight on
the pl where at least we could get some weapons
going on, like just the regulars trios Right now, my
only hope is they make it like a Tornado trios
or something, just make it like crazy. But no, this,
I can't defend TK on this one here. I'm over
this feud big time.
Speaker 3: None of this makes sense, especially since you you literally
just had this street fight like the stream fight should.
Speaker 1: Have been your ender.
Speaker 3: That's why come back with, well, we're gonna do a
regular triosmatch. That's like saying, hell and is Cell wasn't
good enough, so you know what we're gonna do. We're
just gonna do a regular, regular minute match into SmackDown.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think there's some other example, like recently
of like a stipulation match to build to through a
normal single match.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what it was.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you do let us know it makes
no sense.
Speaker 1: Next, we got Jimmy Hanter versus Tekla, which I really
like because I like that there's a women's match with
no title on here. This is a few that has
been building for a bit. I am on the tech
La band winning and somehow I enjoy your work. I
like her. Everyone knows Jimmie Hater is my girl, so
I like seeing her getting some pl E pay per
view time. The only thing I would love to know
is I would love to hear that money's also on this,
so then we show because my worries, like, well, we
only got the two women.
Speaker 2: In Mexico.
Speaker 1: Oh fucking course she is, because we can only have
to it's match on aw Like Willow is.
Speaker 2: Now a pre show exclusive wrestler because she's on the
zero R again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just where's t Kags. I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 2: Isn't that right? Hot? Brother?
Speaker 1: I just like why what? Like I'm watching the Hurts
and to get versus Demand for the fiftieth time, but
we can't have three. We can't have Willow on here.
Either way, I think this will be at least they
saw like three point five. I think they could have
some good chemistry and uh, I'm hoping this is the
start of like gain Hater back on tracks because either way,
I guess we will talk about next whether it's Tony
or Statlander, those are two good programs that Hater and
Matches could have. And I've also said, like after tech
I think they should just turn Hater again, Like I
think she's kind of floundering as a baby face.
Speaker 2: Like the Triangle of Madness.
Speaker 1: I I like the creepy GoF girl gimmick A trio
like that works.
Speaker 2: For me, Like because she's doing this the seventies type.
Speaker 4: No no, no no.
Speaker 1: I don't want her with them. I don't want her
with them. I won't. I don't want her with that.
Just heal by herself. Even though I think it is
really I get sky Blue because I think sky Blue
is still kind of limited. I feel it's super odd
for Julia Hart playing second Banana to Uh. I almost
called it Tequila Techla, Like I just think like Julia
Hart was a TVs chant for like multiple months on
POD's payer views, and now it's like she's just like
a manager. I like Techla, but that's a weird like
adjacent move, you know. But I guess we got the
women's tag titles coming up, so I guess her and
sky Blue will be probably doing that type of stuff.
But yeah, Dave, what do you think about hater Techla
thoughts winner winner. I don't I'm gonna say hater wins,
but I'm oh, actually don't know. I got hater, I
got Hater winning.
Speaker 3: But I also I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Guts though, and she loses here.
Speaker 2: I think triangle and man it helps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, forgot the blood gut now on Taxlan Now, I
forgot about blood guts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's blooding guts.
Speaker 4: And they announced the women's tag team titles and there's
been no information, no talk about either one since.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm at least glad that they are on
the main show because, yeah, outside of the aw Women's Championship,
I'm like, they're really hurting for some for some strong
and I'm glad that it's a one on one it's
not like some random Battle Royal or some convoluted match
like that. They're actually getting their time to shine, So
I'm happy for that.
Speaker 1: And it's a few too, right, So they've been like
feuding for a bit, so it's not just like you
said random thing.
Speaker 4: So I was gonna give this, say, like the favorite
has like two women's matches and like this one those
non title there hasn't been one in like like three
years or something like that. And like on Dynamite, which
is a two and a half hour Dynamite, the only
wins now was just the Mercedes Open Challenge and there
was a Tony and Statlander promo.
Speaker 2: But it was on Collision instead. Yeah, that's the world title.
Speaker 4: But people are saying, yeah, but we need the women's
tag titles and they're gonna be booked well in like
these things are gonna be on Collision by like months
and one.
Speaker 1: Oh I that's my word. It's gonna be that, and
it's gonna be the pre show as well. That's where
you'll see the tag titles and yeah, that that's for me.
Speaker 4: It's just like it's book the men's the men's tag
titles or true titles.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, like and that that's what I just don't understand,
where like do what you want your money? TK, Like
he's paying all these women and he should be as
far as like you want a great women's roster, then
like let them show it off, like you got enough
where if this is a twelve match card, you could
do six six, or you could at least do like, uh,
you know, I don't know eight and four. Then you know,
like like you could easily do that type of stuff.
I don't wrong. I am very happy they're doing women's
bloods and guts because people have won that for a
while and I think that is lots of fun. They
have tons of talent. It's just like again, and it's
different if it's like you look at the car and
there's nothing you can remove, but when it's like the
hurt synergivers demand even this other match. Like I again,
I'm on the bandwagon of Brodido, but Brodito versus the
Cals family and it's ocaught in takesha. Well. I don't
think it should be on the pair of reviews because
we know the story of this match. It's, oh, they
can't get along and then o'caonda takesha breakdown and that's
how Brodia.
Speaker 2: Gets to win, to beat the champs to get a
title shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just like to me, that's like a
that's a make that as a big dynamite man. That
is not the like and it's not because it's the
tag team. It's just like the story of what's gonna
happen here of them breaking up, it's like same thing.
I'm very excited to just hopefully get to Takata or
that's it, that's their ship name, Takata, but like Ocada
and Takesha because like I'm sick and tired of the
teasing and like the waiting and stuff. But uh yeah,
I'll just say if Brodida wins that no one thinks
so the cal Stanny's winning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, champion.
Speaker 1: Yea, let's see here. Kyle Fletcher versus Mark Briscoe. I
think this would be good because they always have good chemistry.
I think this for me, it's like they've done this
a lot, so I'm not itching at it. I just
know it's like a solid match. So I don't know
where I am on this. I think it'll just be
so much, but I have no real anticipation just because
I think they've done it a lot recently. But Kyle
gets to win here, right, Yeah, yeah, there's not like
it's pretty self explained only.
Speaker 3: Way that Mark Briscoe wins as if again, just like
we were saying earlier, TK wakes up and he looks
on his bedside and sees some old R O H
tape and you know what, Briscoes are getting it.
Speaker 1: This is for you, Jay. It's like, yeah, I just
saw there was like a trending tweet on my algorithm
about the dust and went it all in and people
like why did they even do this? I'm still in
the camp, like I understood, or Somelm's town Adam Holes.
Speaker 2: Is sad whole thing, like you just said, like those
match right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be a major down, So I get it.
But that's where it's like there. Sometimes TK just makes
it even to me, even like the Statlander thing was
one of those right where I think you just woke
like you know what, Stantlanders should have a world. It's like,
let's do it by a roll up and yeah that's
what we got, a Statland versus time a stony store.
But I legitally think this could be the match tonight.
They I don't want to put that on them and
be disappointed, but like I'm expecting at least four stars,
maybe more, but I think they could do really well.
And I'm interesting what happens to They must have had
singles matches, they have yeah, I don't know if they've
had them in a while, especially with her being they've
definitely done.
Speaker 4: Something that like Stantlander hasn't had a title shot like
before she won the title in like four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been while. I don't even know if
it happened. I don't think it happened when she was timeless.
Speaker 4: I think it was like just the regular especially with Statlander,
like it was playing when she was like in like
the full alien gimmick, which.
Speaker 1: Was Yeah, I like that. It's like a mix of stuff.
That's fine. I just don't actually you're talking about different
planets and stuff. But yeah, I just what I think
is I think stat Lander wins here. I'm just curious
of is it. I guess it depends with the page
Joe match, because I could see a thing where Statlander
wins and Timeless Tony Storm is getting crazy and that's
how they turned in to the first time, right she
lost the title, then she snapped and she became timeless.
But if they're already doing the Joe thing, I feel
like it's just gonna be like a handshake, but Tony's
gonna be like dishoveled and we're gonna see, uh the
madness happen. I think that we could, like you could
turn Tony, but like, does t K want to do that?
I don't know. She's still so pop. So I'm I'm
saying stat Lander wins here, but I don't know what
the fallout of this matches unless I actually have seen
people booking that it's just Tony and Mina going for
the tag titles and they just do that, and you
could easily make Tony Starrn your first tag team champions
and sure do that. So I'm gonna say stat Lander wins. Handshake,
maybe a kiss even to end the magic. I could
literally see them kissing that out after and that because
the problem was good. But uh, yeah, David, who you
got winning the Statlander or Tony safest match?
Speaker 3: I've got Statlander winning this. I have it being a
just shit of respectful ending to it. And I say respectful,
and I'm following it up by saying they are gonna
go for the handshake and Statlander is gonna be the
one who kisses Tony Storm.
Speaker 1: That should be what they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like she.
Speaker 3: Tony Storm is gonna reach out the handshake. You know,
all trying to be stoic and she's gonna reach and
pull her in, give her a big kiss, and roll
out the ring.
Speaker 2: It's over.
Speaker 3: Then Tony Storm can go and chase the tag teams
with Mina, because I think her and me in a
tag team, it's just gonna be it's gonna be gold,
it's gonna be great TV.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be so funny watch.
Speaker 3: And then you can have Statlander go on and do
more and continue her reign as a deservant world champion.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, though, if you get Tony the
take titles, that's one way to ensure it gets on
the main card though, because we know Storm has those
tag titles, she'll be on the card, So that's maybe.
I kind of actually hope she wins it and they
establish it.
Speaker 4: Straight the deal with the whole like like Harley Cameron
and Statlander thing, because she's just sort of like Statlanders like.
Speaker 2: Tag partner or like sort of manager.
Speaker 1: But Harley's with Anna j Though, right, I feel like, yeah, yeah,
I think you could put Harley and Statland.
Speaker 2: I think I mean they kind of tease like Harley
and Mercedes. Again.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they should definitely do them as a team.
They should to me the whole. If you can do
the whole, rock and sock Mercedes, fucking like, that's what
you do is Mercedes wants all the belts, but no
one will team with her on the roster but Harley,
and that is like, A, that's a really good I
guess it's almost similar to the Charlotte Alexa thing, right,
But like, I think they've already shown that the chemist
when you got that, so I could see that. But
then what I could see is they lose and Mercedes
beats the fuck out of Harley. Is like A, like,
it's your fault we lost, and then you could get
one more title match after that, and then they should
make those puppets. They need to sell these puppets, like
people have said it, But like, why aren't they selling
the puppets people. I'm not buying no puppet, but I've
seen people in my time that said they'll buy the
Mercedes puppets, So make the puppet. Yeah, Like but yeah, no,
I think them as a tag team, and that's what
they should. Even if it is random tag teams thrown together.
Every main woman should be in this. It should not
just be here's the two teams that's gonna be in
the finals. And then a bunch of ro oh fucking.
Speaker 2: People, you know, like they I feel like they probably
Bill you have.
Speaker 1: To yeah, which I'm fine with. I don't know what
they're doing. The theme with this world title had it
for god knows however long's reign champion. It's like, I
don't know.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then after that, I think we went down all
of them. Oh there's two more of there's Dress Express
versus Young Bucks for five hundred k. So there you go.
Speaker 2: We need a money match.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I could see a situation where the Dastics Express
win and they literally just burn the bag of money
to like mess with the Bucks. That's what I think
is like Dinosaur doesn't need money and Jack Perry is
the son of Luke Perry. Like that's my prediction. Is
they toss some money or they like throw it out
some of the crowd, like like Onundre the Giant Style
with Big John said, like, I think that's gonna happen
where they win it and they also and also it'd
be kind of funny if Matt and Nick were in
the crowd trying to get the money from fans, Like
they don't actually take it, but like, hey, give me,
the fans will give it, like there's some good stuff here.
But I think this will be like a solid like
like three point five or if they do anything more great.
But Drastic Express was a good team. I'm a sucker
for big man little man teams, and Bucks have actually
I think kind of been like back in full form
like the past couple of months. So I think this
will be a fun put this on after a low
spot or a brutal spot. So but I think Drastic
Express they got win here. They don't put them together
to lose their first their match here, So.
Speaker 3: I not not against the Bucks. I think that the
Bucks would be be more inclined to take that loss.
I could see your point. I could see them winning
in them having like a little double bag of money
and the Bucks sitting there, uh, just like groveling and
begging at the end of the match about how much
they needed that money. They need that money, and Jack
Perry like reaches in and grabs like a small little
stack out of there just like throws it in their
face and walks off, and they're just groveling picking it
up off the match, just to show how how poor
they become something like that. But I definitely have Jurassic
Express winning this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and then finally Darby versus John ox which
I feel like this has to be. It's not in Washington,
but I feel like the ike with this has to
be the main event. And all I'm gonna say is
Darby's gonna win, and it's gonna be something with fire,
because they've teased fire every week.
Speaker 2: Something head of the fire. It's in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: Darby is getting thrown off the.
Speaker 1: Arch into fire. My only question is is it is
it a teaser fire or is Moxley a madman and
they're gonna bust out the like like the Jack Perry
like Hollywood effects where they're gonna put him on fire.
So I wonder what's gonna happen there. But but I
feel like it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of weird because hair, So it's probably safe.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, but I guess it's I guess it's.
Speaker 3: Weird that you know but also has a very hairy body.
Speaker 1: So if that, yeah, you gotta do it on the back.
You gotta do it on the back. But I feel
like Darby has to win and then we gotta be
at one point I thought Moxley would get kicked out.
I don't think so yet. I think what they're just
gonna do though now it's kind of like we're talking
about Becky. I feel like the next story is Moxley
and God, why am I for Garcia. I feel like
it's that like mentor mentee and eventually Garcia making the
turn on them and and I don't even know if
that's right away. I don't know if that's down line,
but I think that's the story. I appreciate Garcia changed
up his shorts a little bit. I still don't like them,
but still they're like a little more like rest are tidy,
But I think Darby wins here and the starts, uh
John back with his other crew there, and then I
don't know what they do.
Speaker 2: When I went to a Dynamite last week, it was
or no, it would have been the week before, two
weeks ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the death Riders, like they were making their entrance,
they played like I think they went to commercial, like
right as they were making entrance, because like the whole.
Speaker 2: Song played and started over. But it was funny because
they made.
Speaker 4: Their entrance and like they were just like waiting in
the ring and After a while, they all went to
the outside and Max started making them do like like
push ups. Since that's so then so like Claudio and
Garcia were just we're just out there working with Marks.
Speaker 1: Well they were waiting, Yeah, so anything else do. No
one thinks Starvey's quitting here right, Like it's.
Speaker 4: Just I think, do you think like Brian like straight
up like helps Starvey in this match?
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's it's all question of if there's interference, right.
If there's not, then if it's one on one then no.
Speaker 4: I think actually gave him like the bag, you like,
the bag prepared their plastic bag.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he gets like physical in this match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say no, I mean to say, I
think they're gonna say that it's gonna happen at some point.
I still think it's fucked up, as I think when
they turn on Moxley for some reason, I think I
could actually see Brian snapping and like helping Moxley in
a weird way because they started the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Unless if it's like a spot where it's like like
the only like like there's like no way Darby could
like possibly get out of this without like legit dying
unless someone stops mocks. Then at that point Brian would
like run in and like like if like Max is
like a flamethrower to like Darby's face and he's gonna
like shoot it, and like Brian runs out and like
pulls it out of his hands.
Speaker 1: Well you know what too, which would create good drama,
even though I think people would expect to match. The
only thing is if the only way I can see
Moxley winning this is if someone quits on his behalf,
and I could see them put Brian in that role
where if it were something like that where he doesn't
make the save, but he doesn't like like hung up
or something. No, no, he quits on. Yeah, they quit
on Darby's behalf and then Darby's a little mad about.
But again, I don't think we're getting Moxley or Darby.
Speaker 2: On your behalf.
Speaker 1: It's definitely happened. It happened, you know what I was.
Speaker 4: Thinking, More like like Darby says, I quit because they're
gonna like do something.
Speaker 1: To Oh, yeah you could do that too, Yeah you
could do that. It did happen one time, really weird
poll in summer Slam O six. It was Rick Flair
versus mc foley, and they're doing the storeline where Melina
had like a crush on mcfoley and she quit on
his behalf, and then the raw after summer or she
nuts shot him was like, I can never date a
loser like you. We all knew that he had a
wife and kids, he didn't worry all, but I can
never be with a loser like you. This was I'm
not sure if you've ever seen this spos. At one
point in six they turned mcfully heel for I don't
he wasn't even an active roster guy, but they turned
him heel. At one night stand it was him and
Edge versus Tommy Dreamer and uh god, why am I
forgetting to uh Terry Funk And they got the win there,
and then they started to do this weird storyline where yeah,
Molina had a crush on him. It was Rick Flair
versus Yeah, this is Rick Flair versus Mick and an
I quit match and Melina cut off like quit on
his behalf. So it has happened, and eye quit history
where someone has quit. I don't think so, but they
they could. They maybe Tk's like I really love that
Rick flair. Mcfoley finished, you know, but I like, but
I agree with you. If Darby loses, there could be
a chicanery way of Brian's and danger Brian Quit's form.
So you know what, actually it's not a hun because
to me, I thought the whole story was like Darby again,
the one two three on them not quitting because I
said this last time Moxley Quinn. They could, but mar
Moxley quit in the match with hang Man. It's not
like a big thing that Maxim will quit. He we
two months We just saw him tap out two months ago.
The man will quit. You just gotta chain around his neck.
He'll say I quit. Like it's not like a guy
that's never said it, and it's okay, who's gonna say it.
We know Moxley will quit. That was the story that hanging.
So that's why maybe Darby does actually lose in some
weird way and then yeah, I don't know. Again, if
they have a final match, they need to do some
monster's ball, like they need to give Yeah, and that
could be it. Actually that that's so you know what
I'm I'm like, actually, really fifty to fifty on I
guess it depends its placement. If it's last, I don't
think Moxley wins because that's just like a downer kind
of ending. But if it's in the middle of the show,
actually could see Mocksley winning it. So I think it
all depends on what goes and fuck just make Statlander
and Tony the last match. But I digress. So well,
we'll see. We'll be back next week to break that
all down. Any other w W news or stuff will
talk about, uh and then yeah about the draft stuff
ready and yeah, we'll probably have the next time.
Speaker 2: You know, TNA.
Speaker 4: You know it's never gonna be the number two, right,
you know what we can glory you know, wish this
has more tickets sold.
Speaker 2: You know, uh, what's it called? Wrestle Dream is a
bit of a four thousand and Bound for Glory is
at as a few days ago. Six thousand.
Speaker 1: That's really good for bout Flora. That's a great haul.
Speaker 2: So there they're set up.
Speaker 4: For six thousand, five hundred, so they're probably gonna get
that before and that would be the most attended Bound
for Glory ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was at w W rub you know what's
helping them out, So we'll yeah, we'll see because like
good thing with the a W they if usually have
good Walter, I can look.
Speaker 2: Up the bound for Glory card just to just this
because I don't even know all of it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: So it's just I can read these and you can react.
Speaker 1: To what they say.
Speaker 3: Other than the Tables match, that's the only one that.
Speaker 1: I know of. I know tricking Santana now because you
told me that once. That what I know.
Speaker 4: Okay, here, so you have the iconics versus the Elegance
branch for the TNA Knockouts tag to Championship.
Speaker 1: And didn't didn't she say she's retired now?
Speaker 2: The other two she's retired.
Speaker 4: Retired for some like no one knows the specific reason,
but it seems like something. Yeah, like she like some
people think like maybe they even gave her Like I
don't know. It's weird because yeah, she won the title.
Speaker 3: And like she's probably making more money on only fans
with Paige van Zan and she was like.
Speaker 2: I don't need this anymore.
Speaker 1: Good for her?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seems like it was like a it was weird
when I saw that.
Speaker 4: It was like pretty sad about it, Okay, but yeah,
that's not then yeah, Frankie Kazarian versus Steve Macklin for
the TNA International title.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know there was a international title. Cool there,
like a new title there used to.
Speaker 4: Like macclan is the first champion and Frankie vitam for
it like a few weeks ago. Then you have Testa
Blanchard versus GM Miller. G Millers is a backstage reviewer.
They gave her the good feud like she lost, like
Tesla lost, the match got mad hit, the interviewer got suspended,
and now they're having a match.
Speaker 2: So yeah, she's the Pat McAfee of this.
Speaker 1: I will not be watching it. If I watch any
of that show, Tesla Blancher will for sure be the
bathroom breaker. I will not be watching any Testa blanter
manch in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: My god.
Speaker 4: Then you have Order Order four versus The System in
a hardcore war match.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know who the System is, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know the other is most fast. Okay, it's
like like three bodyguard type dudes.
Speaker 3: And like a woman, so Sugg just a bunch of
bros versus Moose and Brian Myers and all of.
Speaker 4: Them Moose, Brian Myers, JDC uh, Alicia Edwards and what's
the guys name Eddie Edwards Hardcore War.
Speaker 2: I don't remember if that's in a cage, I don't
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I think it's just sixed out and I was just
looking at again. I guess I forgot. They do have
Hardy's versus Dudley's.
Speaker 2: That's like.
Speaker 4: That was like the only match announced for like three months,
and just with that they moved like three thousand tickets.
Speaker 1: So people love the nineties attitude a man, they love it.
Speaker 2: They have Kilanie Jordan versus Indi Hartwell for the TNA.
Speaker 1: Oh so we're just w W NXT okay cool, Then.
Speaker 4: The Leon Slater versus Javan Evans for the Exsion Championship.
Speaker 2: Then you have one final table uh.
Speaker 4: The Hardy's not the Hardy Boys versus Team three D
not the Dudly Voice, and a tables match for the
TNA and NXT Tag Team Championships. I think they both
have to go through tables if I believe. I believe
that's the stipulation.
Speaker 1: Oh I like I like those matches because they go longer.
So I like that post. Just the one table, okay, and.
Speaker 4: Then the main event, at least according to this poster,
is Trick Williams versus Mike Santana for the TNA World Championship.
Speaker 1: It should be the man. You can't as much as
they're sealm and you can't put the tables last because
you don't know what's gonna happen with that.
Speaker 4: That would be if they went If they went on last,
yo'd be that would be a hilarious match.
Speaker 2: You're thirty in this tables match or something.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're still gonna go on because TNA
like their match like their their match times are just
like completely rand.
Speaker 2: They'll have like like they have like like.
Speaker 4: Versus Indy was like a twenty minute match or something
like that, and it was like a non title match.
Speaker 1: Geez. Well, we'll see. We'll talk a little bit about
at least the tables. I know I'll be watched, but
we'll talk at least some news coming from that because
I'll see it's Puty related. So yeah, we'll be back
next week. We'll figure out because aw's on the Saturday,
so yeah, it would be on the Sunday, so at
some point maybe regular time, So we'll be back next week,
and we promise you and I'll be boring.
Speaker 4: See