WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:16.120 Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday, you guys, 2 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:22.120 Happy Thanksgiving Thursday. Hey, I've got a great guests Christian Grace. 3 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.160 Now you know him from his amazing Instagram and you 4 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.920 know him from his podcast with Vicky My friend, My 5 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:29.280 Soul name my podcast? 6 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:32.960 Hey, Hi, how are you? 7 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:35.520 Who came up with the name of that podcast? 8 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:37.119 You want to know who came up with it? Was 9 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:42.000 my best friend Tricia. She has actually her name is 10 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:44.600 Tricia Dawson. I still call her Tricia Young because that's 11 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:46.320 what her name was when I met her in college, 12 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.479 her maiden name. But yeah, she's one of my best friends, 13 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.000 and she's actually helped us make a few decisions regarding 14 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:55.079 the podcast. She gave suggestions for some of our Bravo 15 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:57.560 converts that ended up being like the third best seller 16 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:58.280 that we had. 17 00:00:58.600 --> 00:00:59.399 Yeah, she helped. 18 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.399 She sent a list of podcast names whenever Vicky and 19 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:04.120 I decided to do this, And as soon as I 20 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:06.280 read this one out to Vicky, she was like, boom, stop, 21 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:08.680 that's it. I was like, okay, cool. So it's kind 22 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:10.159 of special that she was involved in that. 23 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:13.400 You know, I bought the Bravo con bag that says 24 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:15.359 Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? 25 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.560 Hey? Well that that was our number one seller. 26 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:19.680 That's what I bought. 27 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:21.599 Yeah, And do you know I thought that was going 28 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.599 to be one that people didn't care about for some reason. 29 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:28.560 No, it's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's hilarious because that's Vicky's 30 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:29.439 whole thing. Do you work? 31 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:29.959 Yeah. 32 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:32.879 I have to tell you that Vicky went on Carlos 33 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.959 King's podcast a few weeks ago to talk about the 34 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:41.000 Windy Ocepho insurance scam, and I was like, Wow, Carlos King, 35 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.599 that's genius to have Vicky come on to talk about 36 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.120 an insurance scam, because who would know besides the Queen 37 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.439 of insurance, you know, Oh for sure. 38 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:52.280 And she obviously, of course has strong and I has 39 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.879 always had strong feelings about I think putting all your 40 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:59.760 eggs in the Housewives basket and the Bravo basket, in 41 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:04.799 the reality television basket honestly and really has a hard 42 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.599 time I think not getting frustrated with people that you know, 43 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:11.360 use this as kind of something to lean on rather 44 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.120 than as like a launching pad to do even more 45 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:17.159 and make it even into even more. And also too, 46 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.319 I mean if you think about it, it is. It 47 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:23.240 is unfortunate and disappointing. Like there are people who, given 48 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:25.800 an opportunity like this, be it financial or you know, 49 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.520 whether they're business wise whatever, would give anything for it. 50 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:32.319 And it's just so disappointing to know that even some 51 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.800 of the people that we love on these shows, given 52 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.439 the opportunity, really just went about it all the wrong, 53 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:38.400 wrong way. 54 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:40.960 You know, it is so upsetting. Okay, now I have 55 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.919 a question for you. Now you I'm looking at you, 56 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:46.000 but you're looking at your computer. So I have a question. 57 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:47.120 Do you have two cameras? 58 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:49.319 My webcam has mounted back there? 59 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.759 Yeah, okay, all right, just making sure because I was like, 60 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:54.599 it's like when you're looking somebody with a wonky I 61 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:55.919 and you're like, are you looking at me? Are you 62 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:56.560 looking over there? 63 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.639 I don't know everything, Okay, I can see it all. 64 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:05.360 Yeah, Okay, back to Vicky. So so let's talk about 65 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:10.199 the let's talk about the Esephos and the whole money 66 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.800 sealing of it all. So it did come out this 67 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:14.560 week or last week? I mean what is time? We 68 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.680 were both at Bravo conso I don't know where I am. 69 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.199 I don't know what day is time zone. I don't know. 70 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.759 But she came out and said that the report that 71 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.159 they had used all these aliases for these credit cards 72 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:32.159 was not true. So where did that information come from? 73 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:32.960 If it's not true? 74 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:41.080 And I mean, listen, I have no expertise insight. I 75 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:45.360 barely remember my old social Security number, Okay, right, And 76 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:48.719 I'm being honest. I forty names, and I don't know 77 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:50.240 if they put like a I don't know if they 78 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.159 used one name like multiple times, you know, and I 79 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:58.280 don't know. But to deny that, my whole thing is 80 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.520 like you you have a you better have like a 81 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:02.759 huge victory ahead of you. 82 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.840 Because they too deny something like that is like. 83 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.879 You are getting ready to literally you're going to have 84 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:10.240 the ability to take down an entire legal system that 85 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:11.439 has wrongfully come for you. 86 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:13.159 And if that is the case, then I hope that 87 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:16.959 by all means do it. It's it's not like. 88 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.920 A like it's not like the reports were old. They 89 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.920 even had like two accounts where they tried this or 90 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.519 something like this like forty and I can't remember was 91 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:28.639 it exactly forty or over forty. 92 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:31.759 Over forty, So I don't know, Yeah, forty one, I 93 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:32.680 don't know you know. 94 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:35.120 And I know that they've said things too, like there 95 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:36.800 was something floating out there and I don't know if 96 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.759 this was actually, you know, legitimately from a statement of 97 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:43.240 theirs or not, but there was something about using different 98 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.800 names because they were public you know, public figures and 99 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:54.120 things like that, and so okay, but the financial part 100 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.399 of it, the forty different names and stuff like even 101 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:58.839 if those were what LLCs, even if those were businesses, 102 00:04:58.839 --> 00:04:59.240 even if. 103 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.240 Those were I don't I don't know even. 104 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:05.800 If to me, that's just a big, big accusation to 105 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:09.360 make from these you know, financial government officials who have 106 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.079 spent time researching this and investigating this. And this is 107 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.199 what got me when I when all this started and 108 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:18.519 the police report finally came with it came out in 109 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.639 the first I did, and I was reading it because 110 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:25.000 it was they were onto them before Whitney and Eddie 111 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:28.040 had even an inkling of a clue, and they were 112 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.399 onto them from the night that they reported it, the 113 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.399 night they called on, the cops were in the house, 114 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.480 and before I think within a few minutes, the cops 115 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:36.959 are like, well this is a bogus. 116 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.079 They're nobody broke into this house. 117 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.839 Well, if you read it, it was like, I'm sorry, 118 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.680 but like I would have never thought about it the 119 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:46.279 way that they did. 120 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.439 They said that it made it look like the the 121 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.439 entry was on the second floor, yet there was there 122 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.959 was nothing there like a ladder or anything. So if 123 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:56.680 they'd used something to get up there, that meant that 124 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.639 they took it with them. If I remember correctly, I 125 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.319 believe the glass was broken in the wrong way, which. 126 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:03.360 Shows that, you know. 127 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.720 But the thing is, so imagine this, like this is 128 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.759 how I look at it. Imagine this is all happening 129 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.800 in that moment Wendy and Eddie, you know, they have 130 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.319 to make that call, Oh my gosh, our home was, 131 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.279 you know, burglarized, and then the cops come, and I 132 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:20.079 imagine they're. 133 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:21.560 They're there, the kids are there. 134 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.160 You know, they're you're they're acting at this point, they're 135 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.319 faking it okay, and they have to it. I'm I'm 136 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.680 assuming they have to at some point or some level 137 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:33.800 believe that the cops are eating. 138 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.199 It up, because it was in the days. The next 139 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:37.639 day or a couple of days after that. 140 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:39.879 Is when all the insurance claims started to be filed, 141 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.680 so as they they clearly they thought that they had 142 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:48.040 made they had done a good job, but the cops 143 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:50.439 were like already thinking this is BS so can you 144 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.360 imagine And then let's look at the cops. They're thinking, 145 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.839 oh my god, these people faked this burglary. And then 146 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.079 in the next couple of days, then they start seeing 147 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:01.360 all these insurance claim starting to be right, and then 148 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.639 they start finding the emails about wanting to make sure 149 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:04.560 that they hit the maximum. 150 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.720 Stuff so much stupid. It's just so it's. 151 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:12.120 I don't know, I hope for everything that's out there 152 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.160 that that that this is wrong and that they get 153 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:14.519 out of this. 154 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.240 I genuinely do. I don't. 155 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:18.199 It's just the but when you look at the details 156 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.519 and like the events of that night and the way 157 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.839 that the cops were onto them from the moment that 158 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.480 they eat before they even filed the insurance stuff, which 159 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:27.920 is why they're technically going to jail or might go 160 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.040 to jail, you know, Like, I don't know, it's just 161 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.720 it's again, it's just very unfortunate. And I still stand 162 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.199 by the fact that I think last people in the 163 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:39.600 entire Brava roster, I would have ever I don't. 164 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:41.560 I just would have never ever thought. 165 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:43.879 I don't know, well, yeah. I mean she's she's built 166 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.519 her whole brand on all her degrees and how smart 167 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.839 she is and stuff and she is and all that's legit. 168 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.160 And Eddie is a legit lawyer who I believe went 169 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.480 to the mighty league school so he didn't like get 170 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.519 his law degree from the University of Phoenix. Like these 171 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:57.680 people are you know. 172 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.000 The Shane Simpsons school law as I call it. 173 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:05.639 Yeah, I mean, these they're they're you know, legit, very 174 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.879 very very smart people. And for him as a lawyer 175 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:12.000 to put that in an email, to say, hey, go 176 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:14.439 in the closet, see if you can dig up a 177 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.480 you say, Laurent pair of socks from nineteen ninety two, 178 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:19.319 I mean, you know, like what else can you find 179 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:20.360 in there? It's crazy. 180 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.360 I mean that too also, And can I be honest, 181 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.279 I think that even if I'm out here knowing that, 182 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.959 I'm like scheming a little bit. I'm like, well, let's 183 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.720 not be too obvious, like they maxed out everything. 184 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:34.840 I'm like, you know, let's maybe you know, and oh 185 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:35.320 my god. 186 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.960 And then again when you look at it, it's some 187 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.279 of the things that they claimed were luxury items they'd 188 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:42.480 returned years ago. 189 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.480 I know that they still had the receipts. 190 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:48.720 Yeah, yeah, who even thinks to I don't even know, 191 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.919 you know, it's just mind boggling, it really is. 192 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.440 I think what Vicky said was their main mistake was 193 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:57.720 was initially filing it with three different insurance companies. So 194 00:08:57.759 --> 00:08:59.840 she was like, She's like, the insurance companies will double 195 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:02.399 check each other to make sure there hasn't already been 196 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:04.360 a claimed for this. So that's the first mistake. And 197 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:08.679 again he's a very educated lawyer, so he has to 198 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:10.120 know these things, you know. 199 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:13.039 I know they were taking risk and making they were 200 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.200 they were taking chances at some point for yeah, yeah, 201 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:17.679 and they decided to do it. 202 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:21.159 And the police report to saying that the cops tried 203 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.080 to recreate how the burglars could have gotten in by 204 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.320 getting up on the second floor roof, which there was 205 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.519 no ladder, get on the second floor roof, and then 206 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.559 crawl into that window. And they said, you know, when 207 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:36.480 we did it, we tracked roof dust all over that bathroom, 208 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.200 but oh yeah, that bathroom. There was no roof dust 209 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.720 in the bathroom. And I was like, Wow, maybe let 210 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:43.120 this be. 211 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.600 A lesson out there ever needs to fake a burglar. 212 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.120 You got it's got details have to be involved. Okay, yeah, 213 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.600 it's a detailed process. You got to have the roof dust, 214 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:52.919 the glass has got to be broken the wrong way. 215 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:54.879 We got to have a ladder left up out there. 216 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.399 I mean yeah. Also too, they live in a. 217 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:59.919 I think what seems to be like a big neighborho 218 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.360 hood and they oh my god. And I think it 219 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.919 was when she was on Gibson's podcast Give And I. 220 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.919 Believe this was, if I remember quickly. 221 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.279 I think it was during production or between production and 222 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.840 the season or something, because we hadn't heard about the 223 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:18.960 anything yet and he had mentioned he asked her. 224 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.600 About the burglary because honestly it was. 225 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:27.840 It was reported, and I remember she was She said 226 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.879 something about, like, yeah, and in our neighborhood, it was 227 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:33.759 the first like reported burglary in like thirty years or 228 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.919 like whatever. I was like, girl, like, because I was like, 229 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.600 you're just told on yourself right there, Like why would you? 230 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.399 Because she has to know that that's a lie obviously. 231 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.000 But my whole thing is, again, we're making decisions here, 232 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.200 so like it is not a smart decision to me 233 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.200 that I'm gonna be like it was the first robbery 234 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.159 in thirty years Like that to me is going to 235 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.039 be a suspicious fact, you know what I'm saying. So 236 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:57.559 I'm not even going to bring that up. 237 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:00.559 But like, we don't even know where this isighborhood is 238 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:02.679 because there's never been a break in in this neighborhood. 239 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:04.799 You got a robbery ware, you know. Yeah. 240 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.799 Yeah, but somebody tweeted that they quoted that little clip 241 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:09.360 of the interview. 242 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.440 They said, man, she was lying her ass off. 243 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:14.480 Yeah, you see what it gives this like, gosh, you 244 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.440 know it gives him. Of course we know him and 245 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.440 he's such a sweet guy. And he's like, gosh, that 246 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.320 had to have been so traumatic for you, and I'm 247 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.279 so sorry, and he's trying to iss She was like, 248 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.480 it was awful for me. Children. I'm like, and your 249 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:28.159 children had to think that you were. They're like, listen, 250 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:30.279 if my house is burglarized when I was little, I 251 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:32.399 would be Terrib'd be sleeping with knives under my bed. 252 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:35.879 I would be so scared. So the kids are probably scared. 253 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:36.240 You know. 254 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:39.159 My biggest fear to this day, I'm the thirty three 255 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.840 year old man, My biggest fear to this day is 256 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:43.960 someone breaking in my house because I watched the Elizabeth 257 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:45.279 Smart Story on Lifetime. 258 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.399 When I and when they remember when Yeah and whatever 259 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:49.120 broke into. 260 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.039 Her house, they shared, I will never forget the trailer 261 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.039 for that movie on Lifetime. It shows a clip of 262 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.960 him coming around the corner of the stairs with the flashlight. Traumatizing, horrifying, 263 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:02.440 and I've never gotten over that. So even, Okay, I 264 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:03.960 have a thing that just popped in my head too, 265 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.000 because Wendy said she's she's ready to share her side 266 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:07.559 of the story. 267 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:08.360 Things like that. 268 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:13.080 And let's look at the deret situation, which is people 269 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.600 have been screaming from the rooftops for years that they 270 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:23.639 think that reason Yeah, okay, yes, yes. Is there a 271 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:28.600 world where she could have been the derete in this 272 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:31.320 situation where she received. 273 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.759 She received the email from Eddie. Nope, she received the 274 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.399 email from Eddie, So no, she knew what. 275 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:37.639 Could she think? 276 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.000 That maybe they were just using their insurance claims, but 277 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:41.080 that the Berkeley was real. 278 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.840 Uh, she could have, but she was wearing some of 279 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:49.279 the items after they were stolen. So I love that 280 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:53.120 you're trying to I'm trying that you're trying to help Wendy. 281 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.080 But she and Eddie were using their brains for bad 282 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:02.720 and not good. Yeah, very upsetting. Now did you go 283 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.919 to the I did? I think you probably didn't because 284 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:06.799 you were working a lot. But I didn't go to 285 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.200 the panel where Krrie Hugor came out. 286 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.039 Oh, I wish I'd give it anything. 287 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:12.720 I heard that the I think it was the Potomac 288 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:14.639 panel was the best, the best of the weekend. 289 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.399 I didn't make it to any panels this weekend. That's how. 290 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.519 That's how busy I was. Yeah, yeah, I was like, 291 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:21.279 where do you know? 292 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.720 I didn't even My favorite thing at brabo Con every 293 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:24.559 year is the museum. 294 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.279 And I didn't even know there was a museum this year. 295 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:29.080 When you walked in, it was to the left and 296 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:30.799 you had to And I didn't like it over there 297 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:32.360 because people didn't see it. 298 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:33.879 I felt like it was hidden. 299 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:35.679 Yeah, it was hidden, and there should have been a 300 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.679 sign like museum here. Because they had Gretchen's reunion dress 301 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.399 that she just wore that we just saw see. 302 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.320 Like that did that to me? Is like the museum. 303 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.039 I could spend days in there. I love shit like that. 304 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.000 It was and we had educated roll. 305 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:54.519 It was so good. 306 00:13:55.559 --> 00:14:01.600 Yeah, do they have did they have Kyle's shirt from 307 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:04.279 like season one, the dinner scene, the dinner party from Hell. 308 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:08.039 I don't think so, because they did. I didn't see that. 309 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.639 Okay, she posted a couple of weeks ago, like a 310 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.759 month or two ago, and she said, anyone recognized this shirt? 311 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:14.720 It was a mirror picture. 312 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:17.120 And then the next slide was like a screenshot of 313 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:18.759 her for I think it was the dinner party from Hell. 314 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:21.120 And I responded and I said, is it going to 315 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:21.799 Bravo Kahn? 316 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:24.879 And I thought she said she winked or something like that, 317 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:27.480 So I thought that she was going to have something there. 318 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:28.919 I'm just now remembering. But who knows. 319 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:30.559 Maybe they maybe they take a lot of things in 320 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:32.799 for consideration and can only fit so many so much. 321 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:33.159 I don't know. 322 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.759 It also could have been further back, because again we 323 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.159 just kind of walked through the first little bit of it. 324 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.919 It was kind of crowded and it was I was like, 325 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.159 I didn't I didn't like how it was set up 326 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:44.720 because last year they had it set up and it 327 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.360 was more moody and dark and you could really walk 328 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.080 through and this was just out and open and you 329 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:53.559 kind of like, what am I looking at? And oh, 330 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:55.480 I did see the scroll I did see, of course 331 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:56.799 Tarras breasting plant. 332 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.519 You know, those pants well traveled than I am. They've 333 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.879 been all over the country outside of. 334 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.240 Tam yeh yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, outside of Tamra's body. 335 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:10.399 They've been all over. And I just saw Gretchen's dress 336 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:12.759 that she just wore at this reunion, that hot pink 337 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:14.799 with like that corset, and I was like, and the 338 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.320 dress is like this big, and You're like, how can 339 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:18.080 a human fit in? 340 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:23.080 Yes, I look, I've said in person, it's been granted, 341 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:24.120 had been years. 342 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.600 I forgot how tiny she is. Like, she's like very 343 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:31.279 I was like, okay, yes, girl, yeah, drop the workout routine. 344 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:32.519 My god. You know. 345 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:37.399 Now. I did see you and Vicky at Bravo kN 346 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.120 You were in the booth and I spotted you, and 347 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:42.200 people were of course freaking out because Vicky was carrying 348 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:47.360 her oranges, and and I was like, I got to 349 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:48.799 get in there, like I got to get a picture 350 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:51.360 with Vicky. And you were so nice. You were like okay. 351 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.919 I told them like, I've got one person, and Vicky 352 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.279 looked and I think all the housewives when you meet them, 353 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.159 unless you're in a Bravo palooza and you have a 354 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:03.279 chance to really like chat. They all seem stunned. Like 355 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.720 I got a picture with Rachel Zoe and she seems stunned. 356 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.279 Every time you go to somebody, like I went up 357 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:13.080 to Chara stunned. Everybody seems stunned. And I'm like, this 358 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:14.639 is what you're here for. It's like day three, and 359 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.080 they every time you approach them, even if it's a 360 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:18.399 step in a reat, they seem stunned. 361 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.080 Yeah, Like I think it's just like it's I think 362 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.080 for as much as it's like sensory overload, I think. 363 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.240 For yes, it's very much that for them. 364 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:31.159 And like, I'll be totally honest, and this is this 365 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:32.919 sounds I feel like I hate even like when I've 366 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.320 told people of this before, I'm like, I promise this 367 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:37.559 is not like an asshole thing, but this is the 368 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:39.159 only thing I have to relate it to. 369 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:42.919 Okay, all right, And that is so I didn't. 370 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.080 Get to go to the first Bravocon, the little tiny one, right, 371 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.759 the first one I didn't either was was Javits or 372 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:53.120 whatever they call it. Me too, okay, had I it 373 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.159 was my life mission to get there that year, right, 374 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:56.440 and I just I wanted to. 375 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.679 Go that's where I met you. By the way, that's 376 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:01.120 where I met you in New York jobs because I 377 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:03.720 saw you and somebody goes, that's Christian Grace. Sound was like, ah, 378 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:05.799 I love him, and I ran up and then yeah, 379 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:07.160 and a friendship was born there you go. 380 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.599 Yep, I remember, and I just I don't know if 381 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.680 it was like you know, all the anxiety and like 382 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:17.440 intention and like it just like focused. 383 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.079 I had on getting there, but like. 384 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.440 When I finally got there, you know, even I walked 385 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:24.880 in with a friend. He lived in New York, so 386 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:26.559 we met. He came for he only went one day, 387 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.440 and he met me there for the first day. And 388 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:32.319 if I walked in and if you met someone asked 389 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.640 me for a photo. They followed me on Instagram, and 390 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.720 I was like, oh wow, cool, you know right of 391 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:38.599 course took it mate. 392 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.319 I was like, that just made my day. Let's keep going. 393 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:42.119 And it happened again, and then it happened again, and 394 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:43.039 then it happened again. 395 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:46.759 And for me, I'm like, oh my god, like I 396 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.920 wanted you know, this is amazing. This is like just 397 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:51.920 to know that, like I had no idea it was 398 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:53.480 going to be coming face to face with this many 399 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.039 people that I've never you know that I recognized, but 400 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.519 we've never met things like that, right, And then within 401 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:05.079