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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Sean Garmer here with me as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Mark Morrison, got it, and well, we have some

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<v Speaker 1>sad news to have to report as it is officially

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<v Speaker 1>now with today being the well it was yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 1>officially at midnight today, it is the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox three sixty Digital Store, So you can no longer

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<v Speaker 1>purchase anything digitally on the Xbox three sixty or that's

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<v Speaker 1>not backwards compatible onto the Xbox One and Xbox Series consoles.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that in mind, we decided to, uh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a top fifteen Xbox three six games.

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<v Speaker 1>Both me and Mark have a top fifteen list. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to that. There's also some news like a SAG

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<v Speaker 1>after a strike for video game voice actors this time

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<v Speaker 1>that's been threatened for a while, but now it's official.

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<v Speaker 1>We got some other things going on. I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>more about EA College Football twenty five. All right, so

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<v Speaker 1>well let's go ahead and get this thing out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. We're talking about the housekeeping here. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you describe to the channel, you get not only what

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<v Speaker 1>we do here, a videogames the Max. We like other

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<v Speaker 1>things like anime and entertainment stuff which I'm sure everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is has already seen or is going to see some

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<v Speaker 1>point between next week and this this week and next week,

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<v Speaker 1>Deadpool versus Wolverine. I know for a fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Riolets are broadcasting folks are going to be doing the

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverine Deadpool Wolverine review, so that should probably be up

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<v Speaker 1>by Tuesday, So go ahead and look out for that.

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<v Speaker 1>That will be our official review. Mark and I will

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<v Speaker 1>probably talk about it to someone. We've both seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm planning to see it tomorrow. I think Mark said

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<v Speaker 1>he's seeing it next week, so that moving that along.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also get anime if you like your new anime,

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<v Speaker 1>the one to come out like each season, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that you know, the old ones, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you regularly watch the anime, they kind of keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with it. They do too, and they review a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So if you like anime as much as

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<v Speaker 1>they do, you go check out Otaku Cafe, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>on video or you can, you know, listen to everything

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<v Speaker 1>on podcasts. All three of the shows are on podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so go check them out however it is

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<v Speaker 1>you prefer to watch or listen to your podcast. So

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<v Speaker 1>moving that along to talking about video games here, even

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<v Speaker 1>though both of us have not really been playing anything

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily brand new, I'm probably going to write the review.

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<v Speaker 1>I've pretty much finished everything at least one season of

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<v Speaker 1>both The Road to Glory and Dynasty, and EA colls

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty five, so I'm going to be working on

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<v Speaker 1>that review tomorrow Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Five more times from like to seecred ending No.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually got the cool ending the first time in Dynasty,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't need to see that again. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this. I've said a lot of the main

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<v Speaker 1>stuff last week, so if you really want us here

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<v Speaker 1>or watch my breakdown of the game, go watch or

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<v Speaker 1>listen to last week's episode. I'm not going to reiterate

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I'm just going to bring up that now

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<v Speaker 1>that I've finished both the modes, it really shows how barebones.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of them are Dynasty and RhoD De Glory. That

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<v Speaker 1>is Look, it's cool. Look if you love recruiting, they

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<v Speaker 1>did a really good job with that. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's looking at a bunch of menus, right, thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>The gameplay is great and costs to twenty five, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course you can dissimulate those games and you just

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<v Speaker 1>go bright, go out to the menus. But there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to that. You're just doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff over and over. You might lose players.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the only time I stimulated a game, it is

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<v Speaker 1>by accident. I actually lost two of my recruits because

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<v Speaker 1>they happen to the one game that I lost against

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<v Speaker 1>Adivisional oppoint and I had two recruits scheduled for that

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<v Speaker 1>week I lost, and of course they signed with other teams, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you do suffer a bit more if you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>on like a high difficulty where you may lose, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're simulating, because especially right now, they haven't technically patched

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<v Speaker 1>it yet, but they have a problem with simulating. You

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot of lower ranked teams are beating higher

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<v Speaker 1>teams really easily, and it's a problem. I guess whatever

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<v Speaker 1>for people. But yeah, look Road to Glory School for

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, like, I get offers you like really

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<v Speaker 1>simple resource management, and once you do get to earn

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<v Speaker 1>that spot as a starter, it kind of feels a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more like there's gratification to it because you earned

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<v Speaker 1>that spot. Like I just started the season two where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now a starter because a senior that was ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of me graduated and I was already starting to build

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<v Speaker 1>up that rapport towards the end of that season, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was my character is playing more and you could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sense that. Like so if you do well

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<v Speaker 1>in school, GPA is doing well and you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches trust, you're going to do well whatever. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a lot of like leeway, like you already

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're supposed to do to make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>gain that trust. Now, if you start as a two

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<v Speaker 1>or three star recruits, to make it harder for yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you got to sit there and send more games

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<v Speaker 1>because you're sitting around, But you know, it is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Look, I think overall, I'm gonna stick with

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<v Speaker 1>my eight that I gave it last week because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the gameplay like outweighs everything. But honestly, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a huge college football fan, and I think that helps

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, because my care about college football kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ended as soon as there was no longer a video

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<v Speaker 1>game for it. That kind of helped me keep with

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<v Speaker 1>with the season. So I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>help a lot of people that are kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe casual fans that like to play the video games.

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<v Speaker 1>They might keep up with the college football itself more.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a lot of friends to play with,

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<v Speaker 1>or you played a lot of the online stuff, go

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<v Speaker 1>get the game whenever. If you're doing it for the

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<v Speaker 1>single player stuff, I don't know, I'm not gonna I

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<v Speaker 1>might advise you to wait until it's maybe on a sale,

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<v Speaker 1>which will ineviably will be on a sale. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>puts their games on so pretty quick. I would wait because, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the two modes are not something that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>carry you through. Unless you're somebody that just likes to

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<v Speaker 1>play with different teams. But you're playing with your team,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's steam Builder or the regular teams that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, I think you're kind of going to

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<v Speaker 1>get bored of the game really quick, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Mark anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nearing the end of shouldn't got my tens five?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm check in the last two boss fights, which are

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<v Speaker 2>like kicking me off. Yeah, still slowly plowing through the

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<v Speaker 2>Elvin ring. H. The cool thing today I got was this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I cannot see the name of.

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<v Speaker 2>The called v v A y okay. It's on Sega

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<v Speaker 2>CD RPG. I think this might makes you the first

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<v Speaker 2>RPG have played, or at least like the first like

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<v Speaker 2>serious one. Yeah, that's cool. I I didn't finish it

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<v Speaker 2>back back in the day. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool that we're talking about old games on the shopg

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. But yeah, I mean that that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it up for what we've been playing. We'll do

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<v Speaker 1>the three sixties stuff kind of towards the end. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>as one sixty four here said, rip the marketplace gone

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<v Speaker 1>too soon? I agree, especially that you know Sony after

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know what that means. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean that people didn't backlash hard enough to where

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft kept the three sixty store up. The people backlash

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<v Speaker 1>really hard on the PS three.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. Microsoft put most like people game companies most of

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<v Speaker 2>the three sixty games on other platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that too, right, they do have a large library

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff available for xboxble one, and uh not

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<v Speaker 1>all of them or PC or Xbox series as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a lot of it has moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two hundred and twenty games that are not

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<v Speaker 1>a going to be available moving forward that were digital only,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, obviously I'm sure there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of price scouging now for some three sixty

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<v Speaker 1>games that are not like super widely available, uh for

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<v Speaker 1>people to go by. But we'll get to that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later. There is some news uh here. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of it does involved Microsoft, by the way. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them involves something that we talked about a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago involving, you know, the price increased for spots game pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft is still considering more XBOS game pass tiers. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, Mark, They just want to keep monetizing

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<v Speaker 2>Already. Isn't isn't clear enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a surprise at all. Really, they did say that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to the thing that I talked about, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a XBOS Cloud only tier. Uh, that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that surprised me. When they were pushing this firestick thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that they probably want to see if they

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<v Speaker 1>this helps people actually want to go by the fire

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<v Speaker 1>stick and subscribe the game Pass first before they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But they supposedly it's going to be very cheap, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's rumors going around about like five, maybe even like

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<v Speaker 1>to the ten that the the game Pass core. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the other caveat which I've been saying for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, which is it'd be really nice if I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to log into my Xbox and remote play

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<v Speaker 1>with it to be able to play the games that

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<v Speaker 1>I already own through the cloud and supposedly this tier

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they finally get that to work, which they've been

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<v Speaker 1>promising forever, and Phil i think responded to somebody saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they were going to try to get that to

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<v Speaker 1>work this year, is that would be an extra part

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<v Speaker 1>of that is, oh, hey, I can now play my

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<v Speaker 1>games that I own through there and not have to

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<v Speaker 1>have the console at all. I can just make digital purchases,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's through the website. I think I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can't use it through there. You have to actually, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even do while you're remote playing. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to either be on a console or you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the Microsoft Store it stuff on the PC

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a game or redeem a code or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, but either way, I do think that that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think if you're going to have something like

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<v Speaker 1>the fire Stick, you do need to have a tier

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<v Speaker 1>that's just for that. So it makes sense if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have something like that. Do you think the adding

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to play your games you own? Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you were an OLDS three sixty Xbox one game which

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't buy a serious console.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, because for digital games.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right? But like it would it would let you

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<v Speaker 1>buy your digital game like games you already bought in

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<v Speaker 1>previous generach you could play those through there too.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't you can't buy new ones, can't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can buy new ones, you just can't buy

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<v Speaker 1>any physical one, right. And the other one is the

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<v Speaker 1>dreaded ads support tier, which you know every video service

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<v Speaker 1>of these has one. By now that's obviously a slippery slope, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like where do the ads end.

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<v Speaker 2>When when Sony Face and advertising to BS five?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are they going to be like three in that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that'd be pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be funny, technically, I guess right, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're already do that with them, will be the show

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<v Speaker 1>you're sort of you know, promoting Sony in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, But it would be interesting to see, like

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<v Speaker 1>they already have, like the ads that blow up as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you open the console, right with Call of

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<v Speaker 1>Duty and other various games they've done this with. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not something that's completely strange. We already complain

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get tired of seeing them when you're making an

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<v Speaker 1>this mean that we're like now adding ads to the

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<v Speaker 2>Where you start. Every hour you play the game, you

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Like, where where does that eventually go?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna I imagine they will never interrupt the game,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you start doing that, I think you do seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>uh start it becomes different than when you watch a

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<v Speaker 1>matter if you watch an ad instead of the show

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<v Speaker 1>that you're watching? This is your pressing buttons like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know. I guess doesn't matter if it's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those like pop up ads you can

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it instead of like you know, a video

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<v Speaker 1>ad or something like. I'd be interested to see, like

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<v Speaker 1>where people do they have a line that that if

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<v Speaker 1>you cross it it will make them unsubscribed or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>with this? I mean, and how much cheaper are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? And how much how limited is it? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about I'm guessing Ultimate would mean this

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<v Speaker 1>is your ad free supported tire. But like if you

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<v Speaker 1>what the backlog? And then there's like a seventeen dollar

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<v Speaker 1>version of it that you get Ultimate with ads? Like

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<v Speaker 1>where is this magical thing to do with this?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad I don't care about any of this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, it's just and I wonder if it

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<v Speaker 1>goes well with PS plus institute something like this as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to imagine, I doubt know, because first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>like psplus doesn't have ads like you put it. The

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<v Speaker 2>PS five doesn't show an AD, right, no it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm talking about Okay, if this proves lucrative for

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft right where you see all these people subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>this ads appointed tier, does does Sony all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden go oh well why not? Why don't we make

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<v Speaker 1>some extra money? You know? Does Ubisoft do with their

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<v Speaker 1>little their premium thing. I mean, I wouldn't put anything

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<v Speaker 1>past tv Soft honestly, you know. But moving on from

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<v Speaker 1>that more Xbox I guess adjacent stuff. Of course, they

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<v Speaker 1>now owned Blizzard World of Warcraft. Their dev team has unionized.

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<v Speaker 1>That's five hundred members that are part of this team.

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<v Speaker 1>They joined the Communication Workers of America and obviously Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>has already honored that and made that official. So they

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<v Speaker 1>now become the first wall to wall union and at

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<v Speaker 1>Theuasian Blizzard, and the largest at a Microsoft owned studio

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<v Speaker 1>of course we talked about, but that's a game studio.

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<v Speaker 1>The actual dev studio unionizing last week that was two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty one workers, so yes, they would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>be the largest. Do you think this does this has

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<v Speaker 1>helped them with anything other than making sure people don't

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<v Speaker 1>get fired paraty easily. Or you think this goes down

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<v Speaker 1>to like maybe actual development or helps them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they claim it could, but like Blizzard's history

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<v Speaker 2>has not been the most kind or like the most egalitarian,

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<v Speaker 2>so this might this might be like this might end

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<v Speaker 2>in not great uh behavior from certain higher ups.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder if this is. It's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of time before. Basically almost every studio that's within

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<v Speaker 1>either Bethesda or Activision does this, Like you keep seeing

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<v Speaker 1>this happen, and especially with the the video game voice

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<v Speaker 1>after Striketh that's going on. Obviously, that one's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different because that one has more to do with

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<v Speaker 1>just they have an issue with the AI right, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, unions are they have their their whole purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be a big thing for the dev

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<v Speaker 1>teams right now to be doing that. So hey, good

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<v Speaker 1>for them if this brings them positive fruit for all this.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to see that, especially with all of the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, chaos and layoffs and everything that's happening between

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years especially, Yeah, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>good if you can have some kind of something that

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<v Speaker 1>would stop that from happening. Microsoft has has laid off

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people itself. So if this brings pause

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<v Speaker 1>to Microsoft saying let's do more layoffs, hey, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>win already.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, I know, people off from them from

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<v Speaker 2>the office side or the teams or whatever they can

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<v Speaker 2>squeeze out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. It's like, oh, well, we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>just remove other people instead. Soccer two has been delayed again,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact GSE Game World made a video kind

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<v Speaker 1>of basically playing with that that they're like, really again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's only been a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>So now instead of the Turner Fit, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>release November twentieth. Let's see if they can hit this date. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they've been impacted. They have more things, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just game dev. They're from Ukraine. They had to relocate

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<v Speaker 1>the Czech Republic due to the war going on in

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<v Speaker 1>their country. So that's been a big peril for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Having to be displaced for your families or having to

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<v Speaker 1>move those families with you to Czech Republic. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>none of that is what's easy to do, and that

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<v Speaker 1>weighs heavy on them, and you know, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>take the additional months to get rid of bugs and

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<v Speaker 1>other things before they just released that game. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's important sort of from Microsoft because they have

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<v Speaker 1>that three month window where it's exclusively for them and

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<v Speaker 1>on game Pass, and then it'll be on PlayStation as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, I mean they keep promoting it, they

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<v Speaker 1>keep showing it on all of these you know events

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<v Speaker 1>that they have Microsoft that being and it gets delayed again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is this kind of a big deal or

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<v Speaker 1>not or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Because yeah aboutch Talker.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, Yeah, I do think it's I mean, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys like people, it has an audience, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they released those older games for people to buy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a cool thing for game Pass, right, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be one of these games it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to sell crazy numbers or anything that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Talker is never like a huge franchise,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even like Metro is a bigger franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Speaking of things that are not selling great numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>Concord is not doing well at least in the two

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<v Speaker 1>betas that they've had h and that's with free game

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<v Speaker 1>codes being given out to people that actually pre ordered

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Then they did an open beta and it

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<v Speaker 1>still didn't do great numbers, but they have come out

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<v Speaker 1>and so they will not have a battle pass. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still going to cost forty dollars. So they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>free to play, as some folks were discussing. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talk about that maybe Conquerors needs to go

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<v Speaker 1>free to play and kind of gain good will that way,

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<v Speaker 1>get people playing, and you know, I'll get it make

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<v Speaker 1>it all back through micro transactions. But Sony is sticking

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<v Speaker 1>to the it's going to cost forty dollars thing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to call it's going to have cosmetics. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a lot of cosmetics. They mentioned. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no battle pass. There's gonna be the sixteen free

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<v Speaker 1>gunners that start. They're going to add more of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>more skins, more maps. They're going to start out with twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>There's six game modes. There's not I mean, I did

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<v Speaker 1>see that Marvel Rivals had its thing and that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do so well.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think people are kind of done with

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<v Speaker 2>arena shooters. That's the problem. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's that or it's just that both

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<v Speaker 1>of those games just aren't that good or.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't help either. But I mean, look at like

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<v Speaker 2>you know ea, I think they kind of said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't outright say it, but they're like, the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Apex legend is kind of plateaut as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>user base, like, we can't connect, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is why they had that where they try to

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<v Speaker 1>do the thing where they.

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<v Speaker 2>Passed and tested off everyone and then you know, we're bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, they sit. No, not only the sweit Seam pass,

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<v Speaker 1>they made it to where you can't buy, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get the season passed through playing games playing anymore, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to buy. Yeah, and then they went back on

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<v Speaker 1>that because you know, got upset, and of course they

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<v Speaker 1>can't upset the player base too much because they need

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<v Speaker 1>that player base in order to keep you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>game going. So yeah, it could be a mixture of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, right, Firewalk.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, yeah, I think the problem is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, gamers don't want to have the game feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a chore. And when you got five free to

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<v Speaker 2>play games or even not free to play, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Suicide Squad was a full price game or something,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Skull and Bones or whatever. Yeah, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a log in every to collect my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bonus and then do do my three missions or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>to do the daily missions counter, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stop playing. It's like, yeah, it feels like a second

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<v Speaker 2>job at a certain point, well probly, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean the old faithfuls are not going away either that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or even like a fifth job, because yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have your actual job. And then it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta play. You know, I'm around to overwatch too,

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<v Speaker 2>and get the bat, you know, do a battle pass

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<v Speaker 2>mission and then oh, here's Apex or here's Valorant, or

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<v Speaker 2>here's you know, Call of Duty, and those are the

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<v Speaker 2>big three or four, and then you know there's dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of other smaller crap. I mean, yeah, I lugged into

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<v Speaker 2>a Lost Art like a few days ago and almost

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<v Speaker 2>immediately shut it off because I'm just like overwhelmed with

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<v Speaker 2>what everything's going on. Right, and it's like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>got like nine daily missions to do. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at some point you have to imagine that even

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<v Speaker 1>Destiny to which is you know, doing well now with

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<v Speaker 1>Final Shape, people seem to really be enjoying it. I'm

421
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<v Speaker 1>sure those numbers are going to eventually go back down again,

422
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<v Speaker 1>you know, will the Warcraft goes through this all the time.

423
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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna do great numbers at the beginning when they

424
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<v Speaker 1>release the new content.

425
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the first month or two, and then that'll be it.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Right, And it's like at some point people only again

427
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<v Speaker 1>keep bringing this up because it's true, people only have

428
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<v Speaker 1>so many hours in the day. And when you have

429
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<v Speaker 1>all the games you already play are either free or

430
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<v Speaker 1>they do something they make it really easy for you

431
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<v Speaker 1>to keep playing the game, and then you have a

432
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<v Speaker 1>new one come out that looks very I've already done this,

433
00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>been here, done that kind of thing, and you tell

434
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<v Speaker 1>me it's forty dollars. I have no incentive to go

435
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<v Speaker 1>buy that, right, And if you're Sony, I don't know.

436
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Hell Divers again was just because I think

437
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<v Speaker 1>it's just something different. It's not the same type of

438
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>multiplayer that I mean you can play everyone. Yeah, exploitative,

439
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean that helps, yeah, but it's also it just

440
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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's a fun game. Like you watch it

441
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's fun, like just stuff.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Stuff's blowing up then or yeah, and even like the

443
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:24.759
<v Speaker 2>whole like, uh, you know, personality of the game is

444
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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Right, whereas Concord is just like you, I'm like, Okay,

446
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>this looks interesting, but.

447
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 2>It's like you're just going to called Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah.

448
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 1>I watched this just like last year with the movie, Like,

449
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, people can smell that stuff a

450
00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.759
<v Speaker 1>mile away and it just doesn't help it at all,

451
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:49.839
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately for Concord. Yeah, and what sucks for Sony is

452
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<v Speaker 1>you bought this studio right right, he they bought the

453
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<v Speaker 1>studio for that game, and yeah, like if it doesn't

454
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:03.279
<v Speaker 1>do well, what does that mean? And what are they

455
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<v Speaker 1>going to do? Are they going to let them make

456
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<v Speaker 1>another game? Or what do we what's going to happen

457
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to the people making this game? See layoffs happen at

458
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.519
<v Speaker 1>the studio? I really hope not. But the way things are,

459
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not. Nobody's afraid to do a quick on stuff

460
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.599
<v Speaker 1>right now when you're trying to cover for losses. Nice

461
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.599
<v Speaker 1>to meet you as well, Media Travel Physics too, Nice

462
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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. Thank you for watching. Capcom is actually

463
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<v Speaker 1>doing the reverse of what we're seeing with the Microsoft

464
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<v Speaker 1>Digital Store. I think you'd be Soft also announced us

465
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<v Speaker 1>as well, and we didn't talk about it, but Capcom

466
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<v Speaker 1>is still going to be making physical games. Uh they

467
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<v Speaker 1>said that they have a high even though it's you know,

468
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<v Speaker 1>it's a hardcore audience is asking for it, they still

469
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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of people that ask for physical games,

470
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<v Speaker 1>so they will not stop making them. And in fact,

471
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.279
<v Speaker 1>they're doing so well. I mean I think this quarter

472
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>they didn't do that well or whatever because they didn't

473
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<v Speaker 1>have like a lot of high quality leases big so,

474
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<v Speaker 1>but they did say that they're they're doing well enough

475
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<v Speaker 1>that what they were exploring on how to make more

476
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<v Speaker 1>Mega Man games record well, how to make Mega Man

477
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>games regularly again now since they had so long without

478
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:19.519
<v Speaker 1>making them, and then you know, of course that's firsual

479
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 1>successor with the Gidgefune's Mighty Number nine didn't do too

480
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>well either. Uh so Meg Yeah, Mega Man tended. And

481
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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the point is like now they're they're looking

482
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<v Speaker 1>at it and they go, Okay, these collections that we're

483
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<v Speaker 1>coming out with or doing well, lift something well, right

484
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<v Speaker 1>and the uh Mega Man ten did Mega Man eleven.

485
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<v Speaker 1>You know, do you think that they will start making

486
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<v Speaker 1>more Mega Man.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Games or I imagine if they do, it'll be pretty small scale.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, on the level maybe a little higher

489
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<v Speaker 2>than Mega Man ten, but not it's not gonna need

490
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<v Speaker 2>some Triple A game and it'll still be like the same.

491
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I wanted to do a new art style,

492
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 2>I could do a modern art style, right, Hey, a

493
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Mega Man X or zero or whatever, go ahead.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a preference on if they come up

495
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>with a new Mega Man and whether you want it

496
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<v Speaker 1>to be in the Zero franchise or.

497
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>X or Mega Man Legends three, let's go. I know

498
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<v Speaker 2>I like Mega Man X personally, so I would I

499
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind another one of those. Ah, do another Command

500
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.000
<v Speaker 2>mission the RPG one, that's pretty cool.

501
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 1>These like I'm just that kind of flabber guessed at

502
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>sounds of like why don't you try to see if

503
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 1>you have multiple Mega Man projects, but like have outside

504
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 1>of Capcom teams working on them, like maybe indie you.

505
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, pay someone to do it or yeah, right,

506
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean honestly, like, you know, having like Mega Man

507
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 2>be like a Metrodania would be like a great idea,

508
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>but they're not gonna do it.

509
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<v Speaker 1>Apparently, Yeah, make another maybe not another Battle Network game,

510
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 1>but another Mega Man RPG would be cool. Yeah, or

511
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Mega Man Soccer again. Let's do that, right, I'll be

512
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the mega right, Yeah, we need to have that come back.

513
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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of games, though, we don't know well so, I

514
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I saw this somewhere, It wasn't in the

515
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.599
<v Speaker 1>report that I'm taking this from with GGC, but this

516
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>video game Voice afters strike that it's really only affecting

517
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.519
<v Speaker 1>the ones that are part of SEG after, which began

518
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 1>on the twenty sixth, and that's going to be ongoing.

519
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 1>They've already come to like a conclusion on I guess

520
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty three of the twenty four issues. The biggest issue

521
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>is obviously AI, right, and the biggest issue a lot

522
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 1>of people have right now. And we saw with scar

523
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Johansson have her issue with AI and several other both

524
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 1>ceased and still alive voice actors have issues with with

525
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 1>people stealing their voice and using it in an AI program.

526
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 1>And these voice actors don't want that, don't want and

527
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously I would, you know anybody would if you're getting

528
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>paid your your whole body of work is based off

529
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of using your voice. I don't think anybody would want

530
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>their voice to be able to be used for AI

531
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>without their consent and without getting paid for that. And

532
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 1>so you know, this, this whole strike, which you know

533
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>they've been in negotiations for a couple of years now,

534
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>basically basically affects pretty much everybody, you know, Activision, all

535
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 1>the non Japanese companies, so like Activision, Blindlined, Disney, EA, Insomniac,

536
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Epic Games, Take two, WB, and so on, any game

537
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.559
<v Speaker 1>that is not currently in development. So this is the

538
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 1>thing that people got upset about. Oh my god, it's

539
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 1>been granted. Thought six is going to get delayed even further.

540
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.599
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot no game that is currently in

541
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>development is being affected. It is games that are going

542
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 1>to start development or I don't know what they consider

543
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.319
<v Speaker 1>actually at the development like does that have to have

544
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of time like maybe a year or

545
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>so in development for them to not be affected whatever,

546
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But either way, it does affect gaming to where certain

547
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>games that are starting development late or don't have long

548
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>enough tail and development could be effected where they get

549
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>halted if they use any kind of voice acting of course,

550
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 1>President friend Dresser, yes, the nanny friend Dresser, which I'm

551
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>sure the people listening or watching this, it gets to

552
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a certain part of time where you probably have no

553
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 1>idea what the nanny even is. But even then, she's

554
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>saying that they're not going to consent to a contract

555
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.519
<v Speaker 1>that allows companies to abuse AIS or the discipine of

556
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 1>our Remember, you know, when these come to get serious

557
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>about offering an agreement our members can live with and

558
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 1>work with, we will be here to really negotiate. So

559
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 1>right now, you know, stuff's not happening. Obviously, the studios

560
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of talked about they'd already agreed on pretty much

561
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 1>everything except for this. I'm sorry, it's twenty four out

562
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 1>of twenty five vothals whatever. We'll see how long this

563
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 1>is actually halted for. But I'm totally supportive of the

564
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>voice afters striking for this because you know, the we

565
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>can talk about like AI and gain development. There's certain

566
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>parts of it that I think is helpful, and I

567
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>think even devs will tell you that, But when it

568
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 1>comes to the voice acting, there's none of that help

569
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.079
<v Speaker 1>You're not the voice actors already don't get paid enough

570
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>for what they do, especially the ones that are not

571
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.319
<v Speaker 1>the big names.

572
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the only way it would help is it's

573
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>like and this is kind of a outside cases, like

574
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>when lines Redick died, like using a I don't like

575
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 2>replicate his voice right with the family's permission, by the way,

576
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not saying to do it, but like if

577
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>they had like his authorization or like their authorization and

578
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 2>not against Keith David obviously like he did good work

579
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>as well, but like that'd be like a nice capstone

580
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 2>to like that character for that story, especially since you

581
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 2>know Horizon three is gonna be screwed.

582
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely.

583
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But as far as like using AI just had is

584
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.599
<v Speaker 2>to have live voice actors, you know, like, well, we

585
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 2>don't want to pay uh, who's a Destiny need one

586
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 2>voice actor Peter Dinklage to come back in and you

587
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 2>know do the ghost voice. So we're just gonna do

588
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>this AI thing and you know the computer can sound

589
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 2>like I'm close enough, I think.

590
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, His Day removed them because.

591
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can't I can't comment on that, but

592
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 2>like the replacement with Nolan North, Yeah, and it's like, well,

593
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 2>which of these guys is easier to get back in

594
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the fucking recording booths?

595
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Definitely. Yeah, So you know we go from that to

596
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>probably just worse to use. And one of the things

597
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that I kind of was worried about when you keep

598
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>seeing z if Davis is buying things. Yeah, you know

599
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that they bought Humble Bundle and then they bought more.

600
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>This still wows me that they can buy other video

601
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>game websites and then basically turn a lot of them

602
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 1>over and now they are they're they officially are saying

603
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a restructuring, but I think this is just them

604
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 1>using fancy terminology for this job, because the people that

605
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>are actually that were working there, the thirty six employees

606
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of Humble Gains Publishing, not Humble Bundle, should mention that's

607
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 1>two different things. Humble Bundle it's still going, and they're

608
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 1>saying that this doesn't affect them a Bundle at all.

609
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Humble Games Publishing, which they've made some really cool games

610
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>or help make you know, financed or whatever the part

611
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>of their that they've done, you know, temp tem Forger,

612
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Wizard of Legend, there's other ones that I know I've

613
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>liked over the years. Microsoft even had to deal with

614
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>them to have the games beyond game Pass. They won

615
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 1>for a while as well because they were releasing some

616
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 1>like really cool indie games. And it sucks that like

617
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 1>everyone working there on that side of things is gone.

618
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.519
<v Speaker 1>No longer have a job as of nine am the

619
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>winning that it happened, and yeah, man, they even have

620
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>more games coming like Never Alone Too still in avelone,

621
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<v Speaker 1>Monaco two, Wizard of Legend to Lost Guys all still

622
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>in development. So what's gonna happen to those games? Are

623
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.559
<v Speaker 1>they still gonna get made or you know.

624
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean ass mean they can find if

625
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I can find in some public how far right, but

626
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>like Monoco Too for example, get finished.

627
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably with a Legends you probably also will get finished.

628
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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised they've been making it Never Alone Too,

629
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<v Speaker 1>but that's cool that they are because I liked Never

630
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Alone for what it was, right, Yeah, they just Man again,

631
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 1>this is the state of the industry right now. It

632
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>sucks to see this, and it will continue prout most

633
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>of this year. And yeah again it looks it doesn't matter.

634
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not like I imagine is doing fine as far as

635
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.239
<v Speaker 1>you know as the website, but like you have to

636
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>think about, I can't imagine it's doing that well that

637
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>they're not just it's it's just like you buy all

638
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 1>these things, and I guess they thought maybe they could

639
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 1>get some of these games to take off and it

640
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>would help them. But apparently it has not done them

641
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>enough for them, right, So last thing here before we

642
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>get into the best three sixty games. I'm sure this

643
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>will probably get fixed quickly, but it shows why again

644
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 1>one of the pails of digital only things right now

645
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 1>if you own one of which I do, I have

646
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>one of those older Xbox Ones, not the Xbox one

647
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>S or one X version. I have one of the

648
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I bought Myn'm pretty much close to launch, so I

649
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 1>know for sure it's one of those, but I know

650
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I've updated it since twenty seventeen, so I also know

651
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>that mine's probably not going to be bricked or anything.

652
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 1>But to go through the story, according a Digital Foundry,

653
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and they reported this to Eurogamer the twenty thirteen launch models,

654
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 1>and of course that would keep on going until they

655
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 1>had that revision for the Xbox One S in twenty sixteen.

656
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Are having issues with the latest firmware update, where basically

657
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 1>you have an offline console because it cannot upload the

658
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>latest firmware and so then it can't go online, and

659
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>if you have anything that requires an online check, you

660
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>can't play it since it's DLC or even an online

661
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of online games that you have to

662
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 1>do online check before it even starts playing, even if

663
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you go into offline mode, So I fafically you have

664
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>an offline console until they fix this. Microsoft apparently has

665
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>said that they imagine this is going to be fixed,

666
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>but for right now, if you have one of those

667
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>consoles and you haven't played the thing or used it

668
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>since like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and may not update

669
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>at all, even if you try to put the update

670
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:40.599
<v Speaker 1>on USB stick, it doesn't apparently doesn't.

671
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like, couldn't you just find, like, you know,

672
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 2>an update from five years ago, put that in the

673
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>USB stick, update it, and then put the latest one on?

674
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I could It seems like this seems like a problem,

675
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 2>But it seems like a very like minor problem, right.

676
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 1>But it does show like if it gets to a

677
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.159
<v Speaker 1>point where let's say, Microsoft, just as you know, we're

678
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep what's the point of updating this thing, you know,

679
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 1>like they did with the Yeah.

680
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what they're gonna do.

681
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eventually we'll get to some more we're like, okay,

682
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>are you just going to disable online checks so where

683
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you can just use this without the online check having

684
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 1>to work? That is? Yeah, that is the peril with

685
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>these What they'll do, yeah.

686
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Is they'll wait for like the actual community to figure

687
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>it out and be like, oh, you need to download

688
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>this one update, you know from June twenty eighteen update,

689
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, use that update, and then you can up

690
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>from that update, you can update to the latest firm

691
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>where and then Microsoft wills copy that and and log

692
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>it is their own official documentation.

693
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially as as we get further along, right, if

694
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 1>we as we get like the three sixty is right now,

695
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>where it's too two generations past, when the Xbox one

696
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 1>becomes the two generations past, it will really become Oh,

697
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.039
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be it's gonna be people still playing the console.

698
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fans uh that still use the console

699
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that we'll have to just do it on their own

700
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and say, Okay, we'll go online to figure out go on,

701
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>write it, go on neo gaff whatever, to figure out

702
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 1>how to get this scene to work again. So it's

703
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 1>something to consider again when you talk about as we

704
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>get more and more online, and especially with Microsoft, because

705
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, Sonny does it, but they don't do it

706
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 1>as hardcore as Microsoft seems to do. It's gonna be

707
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a probably gonna be an issue. Right, So that's it

708
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>for news really, unless you have anything else you want

709
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>to mention. I don't know if you wanted to talk

710
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>about any of the comic con stuff.

711
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know Robert interesting pick, Yeah, playing.

712
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I still think it's the idea that he's a variant.

713
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah whatever, he's gonna actually.

714
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Be doing either out of like a clone or something. Uh. Yeah,

715
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 2>and now it's limited run. Showed off the lollipop chainsaw

716
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 2>collector's edition looks nice.

717
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's cool.

718
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think having a Doctor Who spinoff is

719
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>really dumb.

720
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Are they doing a Doctor Who spinout? I did not

721
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>see that.

722
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the spot unit, like Gemma Redgrave is going

723
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.320
<v Speaker 2>to be in it, and Russell Tovi or Tavi, I

724
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know whatever last name is, which he was in

725
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.599
<v Speaker 2>a torch would back in the day. Yeah, so that'll

726
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>be funny.

727
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think it's a bad idea.

728
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Because most of those spinoffs are bad idea or like

729
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>are barely connected with the show and aren't that popular,

730
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 2>like the only one the only reason like Sarah Jane

731
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 2>lasted was because of Sarah Jane. And then right sadly

732
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 2>when she passed. I mean, obviously, when she passed, I

733
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 2>think that thing was over point.

734
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, Is it going to have Russell T. Davies writing

735
00:40:58.199 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>or who's.

736
00:40:58.639 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Gonna Yeah, I think they said that.

737
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I mean it doesn't guarantee anything, right, all right,

738
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 1>So moving on to our top fifteen best Xbox three

739
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty games. Now, let me put the caveat that this

740
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is games that we played, whether it's during that time

741
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 1>or in the future. It's not us trying to do

742
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>an ultimate These are the best fifteen games both of

743
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>us think are the best. It's games that we enjoyed particularly,

744
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>so there might be some that you actually would be

745
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Speaker 1>on the overall best whatever. Listen, there's probably gonna be

746
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 1>some that if you really think about it, they're probably

747
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be anywhere or near that. But I just

748
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>want to put that caveat out there. You can make

749
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>your own lists in the comments and you know, comparing

750
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:55.760
<v Speaker 1>contrast or whatever. But three sixty was Xbox's best era

751
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>for a majority of that time. They were leading until

752
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, Sony with the PS three beat them at

753
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 1>the end, and and they had a lot of games.

754
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, there was a lot to choose from here.

755
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 1>It's something that I completely forgot came out for the

756
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>three sixty. To be honest with you know how long

757
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.199
<v Speaker 1>ago this this was, but having it like it took

758
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>me a while to come up with, like the fifteen

759
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>games that I really really really liked. There was a

760
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of them that it's like, and then I had

761
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>to think about this is also a time in my

762
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 1>life where I wasn't like playing every year like I

763
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 1>am now, So there was a lot of gaps right,

764
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of genres that I have gaps into.

765
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>So my list's probably gonna look nothing like Marx, I imagine.

766
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>On the correct list.

767
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my number fifteen is Ninja guid In two. Maybe

768
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 1>you know Ninja guid In one on the Xbox was

769
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 1>such a cool thing, but two like took that to

770
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a whole other level with the gameplay they mastered it.

771
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>The story was probably equally the same as you know

772
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 1>what it is, But I had so much fun with

773
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 1>that game, going back and reviewing it again recently when

774
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>they did that really bad collection, I remember loving the

775
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>crap out of two. Still, you know three was terrible,

776
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>but hey, for being on the three sixty, it's the

777
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>great game.

778
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>My number fifteen is another Ninja game, but it's market

779
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 2>in Ninsia.

780
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's like later down my list. Why would you

781
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like marking Alinja.

782
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a cool idea and the mechanics were really good,

783
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 2>looked nice. I played well, which is good since the

784
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>other games didn't play that well. Yeah, and yeah, I

785
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 2>like I like all these side detectives or you know,

786
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 2>the way you can approach levels they could get you

787
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>could do it stealthfully or ice everyone.

788
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's my number eight. It's a game I really loved

789
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot, you know, just from I'm not like huge

790
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>on stealth, but this game because of the way it did,

791
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>like the side scrolling and like you said, it look nice,

792
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>but just I like the way you could approach something

793
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and to decide who you're going to take out or whatever,

794
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>how you're going to do that offered like a lot

795
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>of variety, And you know, it was one of those

796
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like in like kind of indies that you know, this

797
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 1>is the time where like indies kind of rose up,

798
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the SPUs Labricade and everything, and this

799
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 1>is one of those that I remember enjoying a lot. Right,

800
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 1>what was your number fourteen?

801
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.960
<v Speaker 2>My number fourteen? I mean it appeared in a previous

802
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 2>system kind of but might and Magic clash your heroes.

803
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think it was the.

804
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I didn't play it on there. And the

805
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 2>three sixty version looked really like they uprais the art

806
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 2>really nicely that I think they redrew some of it. Ah,

807
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 2>and it was really fun, like a good match three

808
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:53.599
<v Speaker 2>type of bubble game ted you know, trygy game early. Ah, well,

809
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 2>just good.

810
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're coming out with that new one or remake

811
00:44:58.719 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

812
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 2>This it came out, but it wasn't as good because

813
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 2>they screwed up some of the like unit strength or

814
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.519
<v Speaker 2>like you know, the way the units work. Yes, they changed,

815
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 2>they get some changes that people really didn't like.

816
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I love that game still. I still pop it in

817
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and play it it. I never deleted off my guns. Yeah,

818
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>my number fourteen is Alan Wake. Yes it has a

819
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 1>remaster so technically you can display that. But for back

820
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in the day when this game came out, you didn't

821
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of games that did like narrative the

822
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:39.400
<v Speaker 1>way it does and having that like Twin Peaks vibe

823
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, the gameplay is not always amazing. Sometimes you

824
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>just want to like storm through all the freaking shadows

825
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But just I love the way it did everything.

826
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Playing through that game, getting through the next part of

827
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the story is really good. The characters in that game

828
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>are well done. Uh. Like I said, gameplay isn't always amazing.

829
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.880
<v Speaker 2>But see, I yeah, I actually like the gameplay quite

830
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 2>a bit, and I like the story. But my problem is,

831
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean I like Allen w quite a bit.

832
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

833
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 2>My problem that kind of is like what they showed

834
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>or what they kind of promised, wasn't there.

835
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They try to correct that a little bit with Nightmare.

836
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well when I wake in the first rounds of like, oh,

837
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:29.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's an open world game, and you know

838
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 2>you can explore the town. No you can't. Like yeah, no,

839
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think got you know, uh pulled back

840
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 2>from when actually showing everything kind of a shame. I think.

841
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I don't like can actually fix

842
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 2>it or not. I don't think it did. Like, I mean,

843
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 2>it's not like an open world game, but.

844
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean it's even more. Uh you can explore more. Right,

845
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of exploration and I don't wake two.

846
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point is they want you to explore,

847
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>so you can get kind of the the creepy vibes

848
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and whatever, but I don't never feels, whereas I don't

849
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 1>the Way Too. They've really capitalized on that of like

850
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.280
<v Speaker 1>actually kind of being scary. I don't wink. One doesn't

851
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>ever feel scary.

852
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's more tense because yeah, well I'm I

853
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 2>gotta get into this next fucking light because they got

854
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.639
<v Speaker 2>no health packs and I only got like one flare

855
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 2>gun round and because all the other animals gone, so

856
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 2>yeah that too.

857
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and number thirteen for me, brutal legend. I love

858
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the crap out of this game. Reviewed this game, even

859
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>though I'm sure it's not unfollowing anymore because they update

860
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>their website every year and remove things, which sucks.

861
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 2>But that's what the Way Back contuniton is good for.

862
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so uh, you know, having that voice cast of

863
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>all the like metal rockers, and then Jack Black, you know,

864
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously he had other starting roles later, but like him,

865
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 1>like this whole game felt like it was like out

866
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of Jack Black's like imagination, and he they had Jack Black,

867
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, Tim Shafer basically had Zack Black picked out,

868
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>he decided to do the role. Then he got all

869
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>these other Like, the soundtracks of this game is amazing.

870
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I just wish they would have kept with the Zelda

871
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.199
<v Speaker 1>thing instead of adding in the strategy stuff.

872
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I wouldn't make my list. It's like, okay,

873
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:18.559
<v Speaker 2>first half.

874
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I still love the crap out of the game, even

875
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>though it had the strategy stuff.

876
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the other yeah, like this was a great idea,

877
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 2>but in the first hour's cool. But then yeah, you

878
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 2>pulled back out and I say, okay, now you're playing

879
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Sacrifice and console.

880
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 1>No I'm not like why, Yeah, what's your number? Thirteen?

881
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Crackdown one, yep, the good I like that game. It's

882
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 2>not the most balanced game, like you never should drive

883
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 2>in that game at all, but I actually like that

884
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>it was just like very open, like he didn't have

885
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:56.559
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of missions to do. It's just yeah, go kill,

886
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 2>go find and kill these fifteen gang members or twelve

887
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 2>or what a hell number one was, and yeah, just

888
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 2>fund it, export the city. And you know they've tried

889
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 2>to expand on the formula it's cracked on two and

890
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 2>three and it's failed or only like yeah.

891
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean just having a game where you could just

892
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:21.000
<v Speaker 1>destroy stuff, yeah, right, was fun. It's like you could

893
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 1>do that a bit more in you know, you got

894
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>in some some games or whatever. But like the formula

895
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>they used for.

896
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.039
<v Speaker 2>This, even like it wasn't like a debug mode, but

897
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 2>they had that keys to the city like cheap mode

898
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>thing that was really cool. Can you can just spawning

899
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.960
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of barrels glode and stuff like that?

900
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly what's your number? Twelve?

901
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Twelve? Yeah. Uh. The only Halo game on my

902
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 2>list is actually Halo Reach.

903
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I debated. I debated, but I went with the whole

904
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm only going to do one game for franchise thing. Yeah.

905
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I debated between Halo Reach and three.

906
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:03.800
<v Speaker 2>What I three is the bigger game? Right? I liked

907
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Reach more like I actually liked the whole king dynamic. Ah,

908
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 2>and I like actually kind of liked the main character.

909
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, the story reaches it's and.

910
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a mass chief running around with a

911
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>skull on fire and these stupid missions and it even

912
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 2>shows up in the cuts and said this is dumb

913
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:25.239
<v Speaker 2>but great.

914
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, its so makes me said that they've ruined that

915
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and the Halo TV show too. But Halo Reached a

916
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>freaking great game. Uh, go play that in the Mass

917
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Chief collection.

918
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you can.

919
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Another great game fallow the only Fallout that I really have,

920
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I played it any kind of extensively. Fall Out New Vegas. Uh,

921
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you know it's the big, the more RPG of the

922
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>one the Fallout games. Love the way you go through

923
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the story in that game obviously has all the Fallout

924
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>mechanics plus the more more things of it. I love

925
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the the just the story they go through. I'm excited

926
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.199
<v Speaker 1>to see how much they're going to do in the

927
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>TV show with it, at least in the setting. And yeah, man,

928
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know everybody has their favorite Fallout

929
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 1>game or whatever, but for me, it's the one I

930
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like the most.

931
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Three to that I remember like New Vegas had a

932
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of problems on the three sixty. Yeah, yeah, those

933
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:31.559
<v Speaker 2>games are good.

934
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>My number eleven is Left four Dead two. It was

935
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 1>a heck of a lot of fun with friends. Just

936
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 1>I remember playing that game like constantly, well a friend,

937
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 1>and just it felt it doesn't matter if like you're

938
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>like redoing some of the similar same levels and stuff.

939
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Just it's so much fun that you forget about that.

940
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>And then like there's just so many games that have

941
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>tried so hard to re kind of try to reimagine that,

942
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and they have not been able to, like, yeah, you

943
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>know Back for Blood recently. It just shows you, like

944
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>how good.

945
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't Back for Blood wasn't awful, but yeah, just

946
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 2>hit like.

947
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>It didn't hit. And it's like, it still amazes me

948
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 1>to like, again, how many how many aversions they have to,

949
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.719
<v Speaker 1>like the number three on everything, because this is another

950
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>series that it's like, dude, if y'all would have capitalized

951
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.280
<v Speaker 1>on the Left for Dead three, how amazing would it

952
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:33.800
<v Speaker 1>have been if you you know, got to actually make that,

953
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, so sadly it didn't, but it's still still

954
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:39.639
<v Speaker 1>great game.

955
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

956
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Uh, what's your number? Eleven?

957
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:45.320
<v Speaker 2>The Darkness one?

958
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Darkness went, oh well, okay, I'm.

959
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Really annoyed that that game ever came to PC because

960
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.280
<v Speaker 2>that you would like to play it, And I really

961
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 2>do like whatever the whole company, oh forget their name,

962
00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:05.519
<v Speaker 2>not Remedy, ah damn it, you mean the dev Yeah Sarbaries. Yeah,

963
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 2>it's funny both came with at the same time. Uh,

964
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:11.199
<v Speaker 2>really like how most of their games play at least

965
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 2>they're older ones before they lost their minds. Yeah, and

966
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.679
<v Speaker 2>I like I mean I liked their darkness too, but

967
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>it was much more of like a comic book game. Yes,

968
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 2>like the first one is a lot more like realistic,

969
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:30.480
<v Speaker 2>even like supernaturally realistic. And yeah, I really wish like that.

970
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And like Saint trow one never came to you know,

971
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.519
<v Speaker 2>forget about other consoles ever, even came to PC, and

972
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, yo, those are kind of popular franchises. Even

973
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>if you do a half assed sports you know, it

974
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:43.599
<v Speaker 2>might be able to still make some money.

975
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. What's your number ten?

976
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I was your number eleven? Okay, sorry, I number

977
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 2>tend to Sable three.

978
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, all right.

979
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I assume the only person actually likes Table three. I didn't.

980
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I played Table two only a little. I didn't like

981
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 2>it at all. I got to like the jail part,

982
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this was dumb and bad. I thought,

983
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Table three is like and I cut out a lot

984
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.320
<v Speaker 2>of the stupid social craft that Fable one also have,

985
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 2>like the farting on people and that dumb shit that

986
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 2>just annoyed me so and Table three is like stupid easy,

987
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 2>especially with like the spell crafting or like you know,

988
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 2>mixing fire and tornado kills every enemy in the game. Yeah,

989
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.719
<v Speaker 2>so that's cool. Uh. I mean Fable three had problems

990
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 2>with the stupid map, you know, the diorama map was

991
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 2>not great, but it's fine. You know, most of the

992
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 2>game is fine, and I have little faith that they're

993
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:45.000
<v Speaker 2>going to pull out Fable again.

994
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Wow. I like everything I've seen so far. The new

995
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Fable we'll see when we actually like get to the

996
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>actual Yeah, but what you're doing my ten is Sasa's

997
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Creed for Black Flag. Okay, yeah, I don't you know,

998
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have that reverence for you that you do

999
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.199
<v Speaker 1>for Assassin's Creed. So I'm sure you probably picked two

1000
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 1>or something.

1001
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.760
<v Speaker 2>But well too is like the one I started with

1002
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of but I picked probably picked Brotherhood maybe. Yeah.

1003
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 2>The four is good, Like I have no complaints about four.

1004
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, four, it is amazing. They look, they

1005
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:25.320
<v Speaker 1>keep mentioned but they they could not How many people

1006
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>have tried to make a version of the ship combat

1007
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:32.119
<v Speaker 1>and Black Flag and they still can't even you can't

1008
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 1>do it themselves. Yeah, but you know, I really enjoyed

1009
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 1>like doing that, going through different lands, having the ship

1010
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>going in there doing your thing.

1011
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:48.519
<v Speaker 2>You know. Ken Ken is a fun character exactly that story. Yeah,

1012
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.400
<v Speaker 2>drives it forward, even if if even if you have

1013
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 2>the ship combat stuff like, well, this is still a

1014
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 2>good playing game.

1015
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the fact that they want to this is

1016
00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the one that they're remastering, it looks like and they

1017
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:01.760
<v Speaker 1>may that sequel Rogue.

1018
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:06.159
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, also quite good, much better than the other Immunity,

1019
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.679
<v Speaker 2>which yeah, it came on the Big Boy consoles and

1020
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:12.760
<v Speaker 2>not agree.

1021
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my number nine has Lost Odyssey, which we've talked

1022
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.079
<v Speaker 1>about a few times on here.

1023
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 2>That's my number four.

1024
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Really I see, Yeah, Uh, fantastic, fantastic RPG that people

1025
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>need to go play. Uh, it's amazing that game was

1026
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.159
<v Speaker 1>four discs if you had.

1027
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>It right, and I do.

1028
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing soundtrack, just there's so many amazing things that

1029
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that like. Really, just go play that game. You will

1030
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>look at I think ARPG is in a different way

1031
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 1>if you like one more than the other or whatever.

1032
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Just I think whether you like just Western or Japanese, everyg.

1033
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's one that you can play and enjoy.

1034
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because it took another game I never actually finished.

1035
00:56:57.480 --> 00:56:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I got like I've got pretty deep in like just

1036
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 2>three I think, and then I got busy with something else.

1037
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Just you know, whatever, and then I never went back

1038
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to it. Yeah, but that's also like a long game,

1039
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's not short.

1040
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's definitely hugely long. Yeah, what's your number?

1041
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Not my number? Nine is another RPG, but Eternal Sonata.

1042
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh my god. I love that game.

1043
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it did come to PS three, but like late,

1044
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 2>like take like a year or two.

1045
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it's one of those games that like it

1046
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 1>became scarce to try to find too. You go try

1047
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to find that like physically, and I remember I traded

1048
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it in and then I tried to find it for

1049
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:42.119
<v Speaker 1>a long time and I couldn't. Yeah, of fantastic. Well

1050
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it was also like not available digitally also, like that

1051
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was the thing, like you had to go to a

1052
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.519
<v Speaker 1>store and buy it, so they always kind of that

1053
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 1>always kind of kept the price like kind of high.

1054
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like thirty bucks now.

1055
00:57:56.159 --> 00:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now that's not bad. But I love the soundtrack

1056
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>of that game.

1057
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you had to like show panel little,

1058
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess, but yeah, yeah, I like to combat quite

1059
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a bit, like the whole light dart system. I like that,

1060
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:15.440
<v Speaker 2>like certain characters completely break that game. And yeah, I

1061
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 2>just think it was like a really like fanciful but

1062
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 2>good RPG.

1063
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's I think about that. I believe you're right.

1064
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 1>My number eight already talked about marking the Ninja. What's

1065
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>your number.

1066
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Eight geometry award is one?

1067
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I know you look kind of like those.

1068
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't like two that much and three fucked it

1069
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 2>all up. But the first game is still like it's simple,

1070
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but it works and looks nice even you know it's simple,

1071
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 2>but hey that that doesn't matter or you know it's

1072
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 2>and everything's going crazy, it still looks good.

1073
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, yeah, that's the thing is like, it's not

1074
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it's more I feel like it's easier to understand than Tetris, Yeah,

1075
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>right at first, and it's you can just kind of

1076
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>play it and.

1077
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I picked hard to master.

1078
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah exactly, And you know.

1079
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm still never like me, there's no indiing to that game.

1080
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 2>But I haven't even got all the achievements in it

1081
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.199
<v Speaker 2>or anything, right, and my scores are like pretty low

1082
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:19.440
<v Speaker 2>compared to like some people. But it's still fun, exactly.

1083
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:24.679
<v Speaker 1>It's really fun. People should go. They've they've especially on

1084
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:27.519
<v Speaker 1>they've like re released those things.

1085
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're always not quite as good for some reason,

1086
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Like I think they finally I think when Geometry Ward

1087
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Street came out and they added all those like weird shapes,

1088
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>people were outraged. Yeah, and then they finally a traditional

1089
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 2>map and people going happy with it.

1090
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>My number seven is Limbo, okay, you know, yeah, I

1091
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>mean everything from like the graphical style to like the

1092
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>way that game does the atmosphere, to like it's again

1093
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:57.039
<v Speaker 1>one of those indie games that you're like, wow, this

1094
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:01.039
<v Speaker 1>game is really kind of it's simple, right, It's very short,

1095
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 1>but it's like does thinks so well? Obviously Inside kind

1096
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.199
<v Speaker 1>of came and showed how you could do that even

1097
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 1>better in a way later, but for its time, Limbo

1098
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:17.320
<v Speaker 1>was was freaking awesome. People. You can play it on

1099
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 1>anything now if you haven't played, it's still definitely right.

1100
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:21.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's a dollar you know.

1101
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, what's your number seven?

1102
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.559
<v Speaker 2>It's the only big game that's a kind of multi platform,

1103
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 2>even though I think it came out later. But Mass

1104
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Effect too.

1105
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, of course, I mean all the mass effects were.

1106
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Two of them were good. Yeah, yeah, I mean too

1107
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 2>is all just about like getting the band together, and

1108
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:51.039
<v Speaker 2>then three completely witched it. Yeah, but the characterism too,

1109
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, gameplay was good. There was a reduction in

1110
01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:56.320
<v Speaker 2>scope from like the first one, but it was it

1111
01:00:56.360 --> 01:01:00.320
<v Speaker 2>was more of a focused game, which helped, right, yeah,

1112
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 2>like to quite a bit.

1113
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm sure that's when I'm sure that's a

1114
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:08.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of people's Number one is probably like best f Yeah,

1115
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:13.400
<v Speaker 1>it's number six for me is Bile Shock. I really

1116
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 1>love that game. It's look, it still gets probably if

1117
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:21.519
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about like all time games period, not just

1118
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you know three sixties.

1119
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Well that's like opening or like the best fifteen minutes. Yeah,

1120
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.760
<v Speaker 2>especially but we didn't talk about it, but did you

1121
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.119
<v Speaker 2>see the Netflix story about it? Like no, I mean

1122
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Netflix is still saying you're going to do a Bioshot

1123
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:41.480
<v Speaker 2>TV show, but it's going to be a more drama

1124
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 2>focused or like a smaller scope show because I don't

1125
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:47.199
<v Speaker 2>want to pay them. They don't want to pay Tom

1126
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:51.800
<v Speaker 2>make Bile shot. You know, well, ay why even.

1127
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Do it exactly?

1128
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And then b like hasn't Fallout or the Last of

1129
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Us shown that, like you gotta spend money for these

1130
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>things to like get high critical.

1131
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean they know that with Witcher also, like right,

1132
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 1>like I get that, like you kind of got but

1133
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you got three good seasons out of Witcher before this happen. Yeah,

1134
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like, you know, it's all about automatically

1135
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:23.920
<v Speaker 1>bad or whatever from the beginning, like you can make

1136
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it work. Yeah, so I just don't understand that line

1137
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of thinking. Yeah, what's your number six?

1138
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh super Boy, Yeah.

1139
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.599
<v Speaker 1>That is uh talk about indie game that like sold

1140
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Xbox leve Arcade for a long time.

1141
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, you know good platformer. This comedic had great soundtrack.

1142
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:48.199
<v Speaker 2>They kept adding ship later, you know, more and more

1143
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff to it off and on. Yeah, yeah, quite good.

1144
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Definitely know the reason like re releases screwed it up

1145
01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 2>because I can check up the music.

1146
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, suck big time. Number five Walking Dead the game. Look,

1147
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you can say what you want about the what happened

1148
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 1>to tellte after and all that stuff about the first

1149
01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Walking Dead game. Still the story is freaking heart wrenching. Look,

1150
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't really do much in the game as far

1151
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.840
<v Speaker 1>as like what you're really doing walking place to place,

1152
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:25.880
<v Speaker 1>making really the point and clicking stuff, but that the

1153
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.400
<v Speaker 1>story decisions and like what happens to the people in

1154
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that game, and that's obviously the ending is still freaking

1155
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>heart wrenching. When I go back and think about it,

1156
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 1>and it is the thing that launched them, honestly. So yeah,

1157
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:43.599
<v Speaker 1>it was huge for their first time. Yep, what's your

1158
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:44.159
<v Speaker 1>number five?

1159
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Bash?

1160
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what the super Giant?

1161
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Hill plays great. I mean it doesn't have a

1162
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.840
<v Speaker 2>ton of like replayability on like eighties or eighties two,

1163
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 2>but it play through it twice. That's good enough. Yeah,

1164
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know set the tone for like a lot

1165
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.039
<v Speaker 2>of their future games. I mean you can directly see

1166
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 2>how that Bastion and kadis related or like, you know,

1167
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 2>the same company made them. Yeah, definitely, And I mean

1168
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 2>for a small team. I mean that was I think

1169
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.039
<v Speaker 2>there was an eight person team or something, maybe like

1170
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:20.239
<v Speaker 2>ten people. You know, it's really small, but they made

1171
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:21.480
<v Speaker 2>like a great game back then.

1172
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I mean it's like it's a game that

1173
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember playing and just thinking like damn they made

1174
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.840
<v Speaker 1>this world and like how I can go and explore

1175
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:33.559
<v Speaker 1>and find things, and like how they made that story

1176
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:34.800
<v Speaker 1>work is like really cool.

1177
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:39.719
<v Speaker 2>And the narrator helped, you know, have the narrator. Yeah,

1178
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 2>it was cool too.

1179
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:46.519
<v Speaker 1>My number four is U Batman Arkham Asylum. I like

1180
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw them a lot more in City. I think

1181
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned a bunch of.

1182
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Times, but that that's the correct opinion.

1183
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just City gets it like really bloated. I mean, look,

1184
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I know the story in City is amazing and all

1185
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, and I again, this is more of the

1186
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 1>whole keeping it to the one game for franchising, because

1187
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I could have put City on here also. But yeah,

1188
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.119
<v Speaker 1>I just love the way that Asylum makes the story work.

1189
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not this huge bloated thing, and it it's

1190
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:15.800
<v Speaker 1>still all the Batman.

1191
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:19.079
<v Speaker 2>It's a much more tightly focused game, but it works

1192
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:20.280
<v Speaker 2>to its credit, you.

1193
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Know, and it's the first time you're getting that awesome

1194
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.039
<v Speaker 1>combat system and the first time you're really getting you know,

1195
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:27.679
<v Speaker 1>that Batman that you they went and made a whole

1196
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:30.800
<v Speaker 1>franchise out of, like you know, it started it and

1197
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's still the best one.

1198
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, number four for you, I watched that was a

1199
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:37.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of honesty.

1200
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I started. Okay, yeah you said that. Number three rock

1201
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Band three. Look, I think I've said a million things

1202
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.719
<v Speaker 1>about rock Band in the past. The game that when

1203
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I talk about three sixty, that is the game for me.

1204
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:54.519
<v Speaker 1>It's what made my college years, all that stuff, stuff

1205
01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 1>with my having my friend that played with me all

1206
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.599
<v Speaker 1>those introducing my dad to rock band and my sister

1207
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and I brought them into gaming again after like all

1208
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 1>they did was, you know, play the Wii and stuff

1209
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 1>like that. So uh rock band, so many amazing memories.

1210
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Sad that they're no longer doing DLC, but the game

1211
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:18.519
<v Speaker 1>is still in Fortnite. Yeah, I guess what's your number three?

1212
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.199
<v Speaker 2>My number three is a game with the three in it,

1213
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's AMP three am three. Okay, it's still the

1214
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:27.920
<v Speaker 2>best launch game. Yeah, not only the three sixty, but

1215
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:32.519
<v Speaker 2>if anything I could. But you know, it was a

1216
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:37.119
<v Speaker 2>good snowboarding game. Uh really creative. You know, the story

1217
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:42.159
<v Speaker 2>is insane, but that is great. It's still fun to play. Like.

1218
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 2>They still haven't made a good snowboarding game sense, which

1219
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:49.519
<v Speaker 2>is a bummer. Or they haven't I'll put it. They

1220
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 2>haven't made a good sports game, you know, extreme sports

1221
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:55.400
<v Speaker 2>game since really, I mean, so you want to twenty

1222
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Hawk one and two were cool, but they does remix

1223
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of the first two that doesn't quite count. Uh, but yeah,

1224
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 2>great game. I still love it, and I still I

1225
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:05.760
<v Speaker 2>wish they kept going.

1226
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:10.559
<v Speaker 1>So now my number two is Gears of War three,

1227
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:15.159
<v Speaker 1>and I mean Gears is like to me, it's one

1228
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of the special franchises that obviously define that generation of Xbox.

1229
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:25.039
<v Speaker 1>That and Halo obviously and Foorza, but it's the series that,

1230
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:27.760
<v Speaker 1>like it was started and completed at least the first

1231
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 1>three games and the judgment, which you know wasn't great,

1232
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:34.199
<v Speaker 1>but the first three games are fantastic and their own right.

1233
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:36.639
<v Speaker 1>You could have easily put you know, one or two

1234
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:39.000
<v Speaker 1>one here as well, but three because it ends the

1235
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 1>story and you got to end it all on one console, right,

1236
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.079
<v Speaker 1>So just.

1237
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:50.000
<v Speaker 2>The three sixties is really good about that about having

1238
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, franchises starting and what should have been ending

1239
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.559
<v Speaker 2>on the console, and they kept going on longer and longer.

1240
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.639
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, definitely. I mean, look, they're making the Gears

1241
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:05.000
<v Speaker 1>six or whatever. Hopefully that's gonna be great or like

1242
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a return to form and yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, that's right.

1243
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Well you're gonna go back and play with those those characters,

1244
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:16.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, Dom and or Phoenix again just like you

1245
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:20.039
<v Speaker 1>did with these so and I love that with the

1246
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Beast mode that they had in this game too, and

1247
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:24.439
<v Speaker 1>then of course they they kind of defined the Horde

1248
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 1>mode throughout the years with this game. So yeah, what's

1249
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:29.199
<v Speaker 1>your number? Two.

1250
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh for the Horizon one, oh.

1251
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Wow, not not even to one.

1252
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 2>No, I liked one quite a bit. I didn't play

1253
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:40.840
<v Speaker 2>too but I liked one. You know, that was good

1254
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<v Speaker 2>enough for me. Uh you know, just a great exploration game.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the later games have gotten, you know, bigger

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<v Speaker 2>and more complicated. I think it's kind of a detriment actually,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so, yeah, I just like the relative simplicity of

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01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the first one. And if they just had it like

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01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.319
<v Speaker 2>in a different you know land for like the next

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01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, the next games out have been fine, but

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01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 2>then they're like, oh, I gotta have all these new

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01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.079
<v Speaker 2>other race types and modes. It's like, no, you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. Yeah, you know, I was happy with the

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<v Speaker 2>first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they technically do, because you know, they definitely need

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01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 1>they need to uh make it elongated, get people more

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01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:23.319
<v Speaker 1>play time with the game. I guess kind of makes But.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy with like thirty hours in the fours of

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01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.920
<v Speaker 2>the Horizon one, not like the ninety would have to

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01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:29.319
<v Speaker 2>put in the Horizon five.

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<v Speaker 1>They want you to play the game for nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I don't want to. So we have a difference

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<v Speaker 2>of opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your number? One?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of complex I knew that was kind of yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you love this game, so yep, great Metro Vanier. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for me, it kind of revitalize the genre

1278
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 2>because it's pretty stagnant before that, and even after that

1279
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:54.840
<v Speaker 2>it took que a year two for people other people

1280
01:09:54.880 --> 01:10:00.319
<v Speaker 2>companies to like make more, but you know, great game

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01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and sadly left in a cliffhanger. That's if the only

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01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:07.199
<v Speaker 2>like really bad thing is it an InKo two obviously, Yeah,

1283
01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:09.880
<v Speaker 2>but it was like a really good showing at the time,

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01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.920
<v Speaker 2>especially of like hey, Xbox Live Arcade games can be

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01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:19.119
<v Speaker 2>like full games, you know, right, not just no, there

1286
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:24.319
<v Speaker 2>are other games, but like they they showed like shot

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01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.399
<v Speaker 2>A complexes, like hey, this is like almost on a

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<v Speaker 2>triple A level. Yeah, and it's so fun to play,

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01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:31.079
<v Speaker 2>like even now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they did that collection not too long ago, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Me guess, let me guess your number one Modern warfare.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sure that were people would be like, how

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01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:44.119
<v Speaker 1>do you not have at least one Call of Duty

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01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:45.680
<v Speaker 1>on even one of the l's list.

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01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Because that's a multi platform franchise that came out on

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01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:50.960
<v Speaker 2>everything right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's also you know, cality, like I

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01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:57.359
<v Speaker 1>mean I'm sure if you're a lover of Call of

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01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:58.960
<v Speaker 1>D I'm sure you would have that on there. I

1300
01:10:59.000 --> 01:10:59.960
<v Speaker 1>don't neither one of us.

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01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Or like Huge Red Dead.

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01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:06.159
<v Speaker 1>It's Halo three. I don't have anything, you know, I

1303
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 1>have no actually never played the first I never played

1304
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:13.760
<v Speaker 1>any of the Red Dead anything. So but yeah, mine's

1305
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Halo three. Uh. It actually ends the story in a

1306
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.760
<v Speaker 1>satisfying way again just like Gears three. And then they

1307
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:22.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of after that they screwed it up because you know,

1308
01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Bungee is no longer evolved to the point where they

1309
01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:28.560
<v Speaker 1>had that which I forgot to talk about. I think

1310
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.439
<v Speaker 1>last week they had that rumor about whether or not

1311
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:32.920
<v Speaker 1>three four three is actually still making the game or

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<v Speaker 1>not when it comes to the future of Halo, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be Halo six or whatever they're gonna call that.

1314
01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:42.359
<v Speaker 1>But Halo three was great. They added all the you know,

1315
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I had all the multiplayer stuff that you would expect,

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01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and they had a great story with it. They expanded

1317
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 1>upon it with luc and especially with Reach that was great.

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<v Speaker 1>And my cap off to the whole saga Bungeee with Halo.

1319
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Unfortunately they were have not been able to

1320
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:04.960
<v Speaker 1>reach the heights of that. Look, there's a ton of

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01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:07.800
<v Speaker 1>great games we didn't mention that. I'm sure a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you three sixty folks will probably be mentioning in

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01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the comments, but hey, it's our list. Can make your

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01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:21.000
<v Speaker 1>words if you want to, right really quickly. Here games

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01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 1>coming out this week. There's the Star Wars Boundary Hunter remaster,

1326
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.039
<v Speaker 1>which another one of those Aspire games, So make of

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<v Speaker 1>it what you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Those do surprisingly well, well.

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01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:37.760
<v Speaker 1>They do well, but I'm talking about develop wise. Yeah,

1330
01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:41.720
<v Speaker 1>that's so great. Thank goodness you're here. That's a cool

1331
01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 1>little like comedy platform or game that people should go

1332
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:51.319
<v Speaker 1>check out if you're into the the indie games. The

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01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Tamba the Tamba Remaster comes out also.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have it, but I'm good. I'm getting the

1335
01:12:57.720 --> 01:12:59.920
<v Speaker 2>collection's edition, so that'll take like four months.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I'm sorry, you gotta wait.

1337
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:08.319
<v Speaker 2>But great, like is like what Maria should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you say that?

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01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Like an open world marrow game? Okay, West and you know,

1340
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:16.960
<v Speaker 2>get act upgrades and ship like that. You know it'd

1341
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:17.319
<v Speaker 2>be great.

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01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, no, they have the levels, but they.

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01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well this is all like one big world, you know.

1344
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I know what you mean.

1345
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1346
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh. The Closer to the Distance as well also comes to,

1347
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like the new consoles and PC. That's a like narrative

1348
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:40.239
<v Speaker 1>game that looks interesting. World of Goutu also comes out

1349
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:44.880
<v Speaker 1>or Switch at PC, so uh, you know, and Eating

1350
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Genesis as well, so some cool things come in. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the early part of the month, most of the you know,

1352
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 1>the big game everybody's waiting for, the Star Wars Outlass

1353
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:55.840
<v Speaker 1>comes out at the end of the month basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>then of course it was maddening there in the middle

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01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. So there's some things coming here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting again towards the fall, but I gotta start

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<v Speaker 1>working again, So appreciate everybody watching. Let us know what

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<v Speaker 1>your top three sixty games are, and we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Everyone later,
