WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:06.320 It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news video. 2 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:11.679 Emma, thank you very much for my intro. Good evening, everybody, 3 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:17.039 we are about to wave goodbye to I'm just gonna 4 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:19.679 say the year twenty twenty four is gonna try to 5 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:23.000 come up with an adjective to fit it, but no 6 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:28.480 adjective that crossed my mind would fit an apt descriptions 7 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:33.320 for this year. But we've only got four hours or 8 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:37.439 so left to twenty twenty four, and let's open our 9 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:42.880 arms and welcome in twenty twenty five. First hour of Nightside, Dan, 10 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.799 it's off. He'll be back tomorrow. As a matter of fact, 11 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:50.200 we're gonna talk about game shows. And I don't know 12 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:55.039 if you have noticed what I have noticed a lot 13 00:00:55.079 --> 00:01:01.520 of people who just don't belonging a game show are 14 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:07.920 m seeing a game show, and the game shows that 15 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:12.519 they're creating new ones just kind of lack pizzazz. They 16 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:18.519 figure just keep offering large chunks of money and that 17 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.480 will do what game shows have always done, which is 18 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:27.879 went over the American public. And that's wrong. And as well, 19 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:34.120 they keep bringing back game shows. They had their time, 20 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.680 they were great while they were here, but they keep 21 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:43.400 bringing them back, and obviously Peter Marshall has passed on. 22 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:49.239 So you have Hollywood Squares, the whole new bunch of performers, 23 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:55.159 all nine stars, and the word stars is the operative word. 24 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.640 So I decided to get a professional, a gentleman who 25 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:05.799 did his doctorate in college and game shows, who got 26 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:11.080 a chance to sit down with the legends Mark Goodson 27 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:16.960 and Bill Toddman. They gave him a gig, started as 28 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:23.479 an intern, worked his way up, and most recently, for 29 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:28.639 over thirty years, he was the executive producer of The 30 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.840 Price Is Right. Please welcome form a guest of mine 31 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:37.000 and friend Roger, Doctor Roger, Happy New. 32 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:40.439 Year, Happy New Year to you, Morgan. Is always a 33 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:41.719 pleasure to be on your show. 34 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:46.039 Well, thank you very much. And did you agree with 35 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:47.319 some of the things I said? 36 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:51.520 I agreed one hundred percent what you said I do. 37 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:58.879 It's very, very sad the game show industry on TV 38 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:03.280 right now. It's it's you know, when when I was 39 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:08.240 working and I've left about fifteen sixteen years ago, there 40 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.879 were Mark Goodson was a game show factory. They knew 41 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:17.159 what they were doing. You had previous companies had Heater Quig, 42 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:21.120 you had Bob Stewart Productions, you had jack Berry Productions, 43 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.800 and these were they were involved with game shows. They 44 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.479 would work on a game show and make it perfect 45 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.960 and find the right MC. None of them are around anymore. 46 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.039 All these new game shows are produced by people have 47 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:36.319 no experience. 48 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.000 In games, don't know what they are doing. 49 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.039 No, that's right, they don't know what they're doing. They 50 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:45.639 don't understand the whole complexities of making an interesting game 51 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:48.159 that pulls you in that you want to watch every week. 52 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:52.000 It's on every day, that's on. It's and when they 53 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.120 you brought you mentioned, they bring back old game shows. 54 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:58.159 They bring them back and they're not quite right either. 55 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.800 You know, they do little changes quirks to it, and 56 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:05.919 they get the worst they get the worst mcs. It's 57 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:08.599 it's terrible right now. 58 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:09.879 It is sad. 59 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.199 I find it very sad. I find it very sad. 60 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.000 I have a question to ask you, Morgan. Can you 61 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:18.399 think of any game show in the last fifteen to 62 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:22.519 twenty years that was a breakaway game show that became 63 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:26.680 a big hit that people really like, that that was 64 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.959 on more than thirteen weeks or twenty nine weeks? Can 65 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.000 you say any which one I want. 66 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:34.720 To deal or no deal. 67 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.920 That's right, that's right, y'are absolutely right. I didn't think 68 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:40.040 was that. 69 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.839 I think I think Carr and Howard Carr, excuse me, 70 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:50.839 the Boston radio personality. Howry Mandel was a great choice 71 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.839 to run that game show. He ran it well. He 72 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.720 had what you were called before that game show gene. 73 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.639 You're born with it, and it's not easy to develop 74 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:07.680 if you don't have it. And I think the drama 75 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:12.040 of will he hit the button and take whatever the 76 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.759 banker offers, or will he go for another couple of 77 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:19.839 briefcases hoping that one of the big briefcases on left. 78 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:26.040 You know, I liked that game show and I cannot 79 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.199 think of any of the game show that was new 80 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.759 then the perimeters that you put to me over the 81 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:41.879 past fifteen twenty years that lasted and held my interest 82 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:46.240 to watch it the whole hour through. Let me do it. 83 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.360 And they're bringing it back with some new confilated plot 84 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.160 line of deal and o'deal island, and I don't know 85 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:59.480 what that's all about, but I wish them luck. 86 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.639 That's so comical they have to put it on an island. 87 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:08.959 And yes, I'm going. 88 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.600 To read a list to you. I wrote down the 89 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:17.240 game show hosts. And this isn't every single one, It's 90 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:22.399 only about eight nine ten names that knew how to 91 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:28.120 do the game show of which they hosted. And I 92 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.759 let off with Bob Barker, Need I say more, Bill Cullen, Peter, 93 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.759 Peter Marshall. And this is in no particular order. It's 94 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:39.920 just as in the order that I thought of them 95 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:46.959 when I leave off. Peter Marshall, Peter Tamarkan, Chuck Woolery, 96 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:53.120 Richard Dawson, Jim Perry, here's the name, grout Show, and 97 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:59.519 Bob Eubanks. They all were well known for doing a 98 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:04.519 game show show or game shows, and they did a 99 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:09.279 superb job. And whether you got get right, let me 100 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.800 say you win your way up on the price is 101 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:17.560 right stage and you're playing ten chances, and you start 102 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:24.720 off not ending in a zero for the Clippers. Bob 103 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:29.079 knows and the audience knows that every single prize up 104 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.000 there for the ten chances ends in a zero, but 105 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:36.720 the poor contestant doesn't, and Bob doesn't ridicule them. He 106 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.199 plays along and hopes that they will stumble upon the 107 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.439 right formula and eventually get to play for the car 108 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:49.160 and win it. That's the game show host right right, 109 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:54.120 And basically he was the best in the business, right. 110 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:57.720 A game show host on the old school game shows, 111 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.519 the old Once again, I'm going to go back to 112 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.879 the problem with digital editing. But these old shows were 113 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.120 taped live to tape, mainly because tape was hard to edit. 114 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:10.920 And these game show hosts, they were in charge of 115 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.560 the show. When the show went on, they were in 116 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.480 charge and were blunders. They were in charge of the blunders. 117 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.639 If they had a bad contestant, they had to take 118 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.439 care of the band contestant. They were in charge of 119 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:26.439 the shows. Now with digital editing, you don't. The producers 120 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:29.720 are back in charge. They can put anybody in there. 121 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.000 They can stop tape at any time and say, you know, 122 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:34.600 there's a mistake here, We've got to redo this. They 123 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:38.000 can tell the contestant please react better. They can stop 124 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:40.879 the show anytime. They're in charge now, not the game 125 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:45.639 show hosts. The producers are back in charge, and that's 126 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:49.799 what we're missing. We have these robots up there now 127 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:55.320 just following the directions of the producers. They're not in 128 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:56.639 charge of the show anymore. 129 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:04.120 Alec doesn't have the game show Gene Anthony Anderson doesn't 130 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.679 have the game show gene. I could keep going and 131 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.559 I'll go to the opposite. The man who did not 132 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.200 have it when he first got the job with family Feud, 133 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.600 Steve Harvey did not have it, but he has developed 134 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:23.519 it and he has made it his own. Let me 135 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:25.440 take a break. When we come back, maybe we'll get 136 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.039 some phone calls. You are if you want to call 137 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.120 in and let me hear your opinion of game shows 138 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.679 six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine, 139 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.799 ten thirty, You're welcome to join. Roger Doptgotz and I 140 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.679 and I'm gonna have Roger give his backstory so you'll 141 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:48.039 understand he knows of what he speaks. Time here on 142 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.159 night Side eight sixteen, temperature forty four degrees. 143 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:56.200 Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World 144 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:59.440 night Side Studios on w b Z News Radio. 145 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.919 Dim is off tonight. He will be back tomorrow eight o'clock. 146 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.159 This will be his microphone. It's always his microphone, whether 147 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.840 he takes vacation days off or not. I'm Morgan filling 148 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:16.240 in and my guest Roger Dopkowitz. Roger, could you give 149 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.919 you a backstory so people know the history of a 150 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:21.879 man who's talking about game shows. 151 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:27.440 Oh well, okay, I go back. I studied. I studied 152 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:32.519 television in college, and after I was done with my 153 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.639 regular degree, I decided to go for a master's degree 154 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.279 and I have to write a thesis. So I wrote 155 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:46.000 a thesis on game shows, a pretty comprehensive thesis. And 156 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.000 I use that thesis to try to get a job, 157 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.759 and I hooked one with Mark Goodson, who got my thesis. 158 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:59.039 I sent it to him and he liked my thesis 159 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:04.320 and he's at My favorite part of this story is 160 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.879 I was in New York and I went to him 161 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:12.080 for an interview and he turns to me and he said, Rajah, Okay, 162 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.879 when are you planning to fly back to California? And 163 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.879 I said, I'm not flying, I'm driving. And his eyes 164 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.480 bugged out and he said, you're driving. You drove here? 165 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.279 I said yeah, And I think that sold him on 166 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:30.519 me that I would drive all the way to New 167 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:34.759 York for a game show interview, which I did, and 168 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.679 I got a job on The Price Is Right as 169 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:43.080 a production assistant, and I slowly worked my way up 170 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.840 and Mark Goodson then funny made me producer of the show, 171 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.600 and I say. 172 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:50.159 With the show. 173 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:56.000 Right right, And I was fortunate. I was very fortunate 174 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:59.919 to be in Mark Goodson had a select group of 175 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.000 people that he always had meetings with. You know this 176 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:06.279 this he had six or seven eight people that he 177 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:10.559 trusted with game shows, talking about them, developing them. And 178 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:13.399 I was very, very fortunate for him to include me 179 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.559 in that group. I was one of the youngest in 180 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:19.399 the group, and now I'm one of the last that 181 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:22.399 was in the group that's still wrapped. We'll tell you 182 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.000 what because I was one of the youngest and now 183 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:26.120 I'm the last one. 184 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.519 My producer, the man who called you, his name is 185 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:34.320 Rob Brooks, and we talked periodically during the commercial break, 186 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:36.759 and he said his favorite game show was Match Game, 187 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.320 and I wanted to kick myself in the head. Why 188 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.279 didn't I add Gene Rayburn's name to the list? 189 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.080 I gave, oh, yeah, one of the band. 190 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.600 You began a match Game even before you went to 191 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.679 the Prices, right, So can you talk a bit about No. 192 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.960 No, I sat on the Price first. I started on 193 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:58.519 Price first, and then match Gin was brought back, and 194 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.679 I actually asked for a job on the show. I 195 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:03.279 went to Goods and I said, I like the work 196 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:06.559 in the show too, and so I worked on both shows, 197 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:10.399 on Price and Max Game, and on Match Game, I 198 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:14.919 was merely merely a que card person. I made up 199 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.720 the que cards and held them up for Jean. But 200 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.360 I learned a lot from that position. I learned a lot, 201 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:23.759 but made a good game shows because I could. I could. 202 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:27.200 I could just observe the show. I could have observed 203 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:32.399 the chemistry. I could observe what was needed to make 204 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.200 that show the big hit it was. 205 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:39.320 I mean I just periodically you would get camera time, 206 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.480 nothing would happen in the joke or whatnot. 207 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:45.159 And I would not. 208 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.360 I was not a very good speller, and Jean Raymond 209 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:55.120 will always pointed out that I was not a good speller, 210 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.840 but I didn't. I'm a ham. I love being on camera. 211 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:00.240 I was a ham. I knew I was going to 212 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:04.039 be on cameras, so I had a good time. Even though. 213 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.679 Even though you just did the queue cards, I don't 214 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:12.519 think I ever saw you without a tie on, and 215 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:13.399 you always. 216 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.039 I did. I always try to look the best. Yes 217 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:18.559 I did, I did. 218 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:23.840 I do. You're wearing a jacket and tie right now. 219 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:24.960 We just can't see it. 220 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.120 Right, now right now, with my broken leg, I'm wearing 221 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:28.799 a tie. 222 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.720 I'm going to ask one more prices, I mean, excuse me, 223 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:35.679 one more match game question. Then I'm going to take 224 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:36.279 some calls. 225 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:38.039 Okay. 226 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:44.720 It was obvious if you watch TV that once they 227 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.240 brought in the celebrity wheel, you had to spend that 228 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:51.120 in order to see which celebrity you would have to 229 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:56.000 match and for how much money. Richard dawson't was not 230 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:59.960 happy about that. No, I don't know how much. 231 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:02.320 Oh. 232 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.639 I recall that he was not happy. You could see 233 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:10.440 it in him. And that was and that was the 234 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.679 start of him thinking about maybe I should leave this show. 235 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:18.240 And eventually he did, of course, which was it was 236 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.759 very when he left the show, is very detrimental to 237 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:25.480 the show. And they just shot themselves in the foot 238 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:28.080 there when they thought, well we've got you know, the 239 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:30.480 press were thinking, well, we've got to let the other 240 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.039 stars have a chance. This is not fair that they're 241 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:34.440 always picking on Richard. 242 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:38.080 You know, every now and then they would pick one 243 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:42.120 of the other five, but primarily oh, I'll take Richard please. 244 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:48.240 Yeah, because Richard played. Everybody loved Richard. He took the 245 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.879 game very seriously. He knew and they head to head. 246 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:55.080 It wasn't time to make jokes or make a funny 247 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:59.200 answer just for a laugh, and the contestants could really 248 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.600 count on him. 249 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.679 And for a contestant to win between five and ten 250 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.960 thousand dollars depending on what Richard Dawson said, that was 251 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:09.960 important to them. 252 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:16.320 Yes, yes, we're some of the other people. It didn't 253 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.240 happen often, but I could see they were going for 254 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.320 the joke. They were right, that seriously right. 255 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.320 All right, tell you what. Let's take a phone call 256 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:28.679 before you have to do a news hit. Let's go 257 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:33.320 to Beverly Manson. Speak to Jolene Jet, Roger Dopkowitz. 258 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:40.600 Hello, good evening, Roger and Morgan Ah love object. One 259 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:44.279 of my favorite game shows was The Newlywed Game, and 260 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:48.679 so often my husband and I will do something our 261 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:53.960 interactions will remind me of that game. We were discussing 262 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:58.960 the way I cut hamburgers when I make them at home, 263 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:04.920 and it turned into rather an argument. And I think 264 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:08.599 for myself, so many times when stuff like this happens, Man, 265 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:13.160 they ought to make a new newlywed game and call 266 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:18.160 it They're not so newlywed game because so many people 267 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:23.720 in their sixties and fifties, and I think would really 268 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.119 bring that back. 269 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.559 Roger germans an idea for you, they're not so. 270 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:36.160 Yeah, I love to see that. But another favorite of 271 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:40.279 mine was Video Village that had a piano. 272 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:46.079 Monty Hall before Let's Make a Deal. I remember that 273 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:47.279 game show so well. 274 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:53.319 It was so interesting. It was different with that piano 275 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:57.759 game show. But what I'm looking at right now is 276 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:01.400 something I got from the Post Office and it is 277 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:12.160 commemorative stamps regarding Alex Trebec. Yes, and there's a bunch 278 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:17.880 of commemorative Forever stamps and it says on the stamp. 279 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:26.200 This naturalized US citizen hosted the quiz show Jeopardy for 280 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:30.599 thirty seven years seasons. 281 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:37.079 And he he hosted several game shows before he struck 282 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:44.079 gold behind the podium on Jeopardy high Rollers, there's another 283 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:48.359 one that escapes for the moment moment. But he had 284 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:54.799 that mc gene, Roger, do you agree about Alex Trebeka? 285 00:18:54.880 --> 00:19:00.000 All right, Oh, exactly. No. Alex Trebek was part of 286 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.599 that pool of great mcs that you could if you 287 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.279 had a game show, you could choose one of those people, 288 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:09.119 and Alex Trabik was right up there. 289 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:10.079 Yeah. 290 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:15.640 But they're going to change the format. I heard somewhere 291 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:20.240 where it's going to be a traveling trivia show. I 292 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:24.759 just heard about it once. I'm not sure. But Ken 293 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:30.480 Jennings I believe is going to replace him. 294 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.680 Well, Ken Jennings has replaced Alex passed away two or 295 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:39.680 three years ago. But Ken Ken Jennings was a duel 296 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:43.279 host with Miami be Aleck and then they decided just 297 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:45.920 to go with Ken Jennings all the way through, and 298 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:52.000 last I heard, he is still comfortably hosting Jeopardy. 299 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:58.759 Okay, Well, I'm looking to see if there changes its 300 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:03.839 format would be interesting. Well, I'd love it, gentlemen. 301 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.960 Work Juline, thank you for your call and happy to 302 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.960 you to you. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 303 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:14.519 That's my key with game shows, and that's why some 304 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.359 of the game shows you see ol there now have 305 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:23.400 been tinkered with and it has not improved situations for 306 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:26.480 Jimmy and Boston. You'll be next anyone else who wants 307 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.519 to call during the news six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, 308 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:34.759 thirty eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. Roger Doptkowitz, 309 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:39.000 former executive producer of the Price Is Right, is here, time, 310 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.200 eight thirty one, forty four degrees. 311 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:47.160 You're on the night side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZ, 312 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.160 Boston's news radio. 313 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:54.279 Let's go right back to the telephone in Boston with Jimmy, Jimmy, 314 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.039 Happy New Year. You've got Roger Dopkowitz. 315 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:06.160 I years ago, my cousin, can you hear me? Can 316 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:12.880 you hear me? Years ago, was on the Prices Right 317 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.920 and and she was trying to be an actress out 318 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.319 in California, And so my aunt and uncle went out 319 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.680 to visit her, and she got one of the contestants 320 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:25.160 on Prices Right, and she ended up winning the showcase. 321 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:29.240 But it was lucky that she won the showcase. But 322 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:32.319 but she was picked because she was miss I don't 323 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.839 want to say the the state, but he used to 324 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:44.599 be the host of What the USA Right of Connecticut? Okay, 325 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.839 and so but so it wasn't chance that she got 326 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:51.279 called to get Tessa's row. But it was chance that 327 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:54.079 she won the showcase, you know what I mean, because 328 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:58.240 they interviewed her coming into the show, and they knew 329 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:01.960 the connection between Bob Baker her, so that's why they 330 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.559 take her to be a contestant. But then, like I said, 331 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:08.799 it was a chance that she won the showcase even 332 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:10.319 though she couldn't afford it at all. 333 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:17.720 And we hold one second, Roger, explain to my audience, when, however, 334 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:22.079 many people show up to see the price is right? 335 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.599 If I'm not mistaken, I think it's three hundred people 336 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:30.960 in the audience. How do we whittle that down to nine? 337 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:35.880 We interview everybody in line. We give them all like 338 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:40.319 a thirty second interview, and from that little interview we 339 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:45.279 decide whether they're they're good enough and or an interesting 340 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:51.039 enough person to be a contestant. We did, I can 341 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:55.519 I can say right now we had no idea of 342 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:59.200 the connection between that girl and Bob Barker. There was 343 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:03.119 no way we would the connection. She was picked because 344 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.880 she was an interesting person. Uh, she must have had 345 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:10.200 a wonderful personality, one of the reasons maybe she won 346 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:14.359 her contest and we picked him because we found her interesting. 347 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.880 And and if Bob and we would even if we 348 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.880 knew the connection, we would not tell Bob because that 349 00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:23.599 would that would influence the show and it would be 350 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:30.480 wrong because you have should have no connection with person connection. 351 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.920 So I can assure the caller that we had no 352 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.640 idea and Bob probably had no idea either until unless 353 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.720 she said at the end of winning, I won, you 354 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.079 know the big contest, Bob, and that would have been 355 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:46.680 the only Yeah, yeah. 356 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:48.119 Yeah, well that's that's great. 357 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.839 But when it comes down to you and another person 358 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.039 of the last two, and you each get a showcase 359 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:01.079 that gives you three or four things of which to 360 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.720 bid upon, you have to come up with a figure 361 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:08.559 you think would be the total of all of those things, 362 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:15.039 and the person who is the better bidder wins. And 363 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.799 there have been some interesting circumstances over the years. I'm 364 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:24.680 gonna have Roger speak to that. But Jimmy, I'm gonna 365 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:26.359 say good night to you. But Happy New. 366 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:31.480 Year, Happy New Year, you too, Happy New Year, Boldians, Thank. 367 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.880 You, Bye bye, Jimmy. Anyone else who wants to do 368 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:36.799 what Jimmy did and the call before Jimmy, you want 369 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:38.640 to speak to Roger Darpka, which you want to tell 370 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:43.240 us about your favorite game show and or your favorite 371 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:47.400 game show host. Give us a call six one, seven, two, five, 372 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.200 four ten thirty eight eight, eight nine to nine, ten thirty. 373 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.359 For the rest of this hour, we're talking about game shows. 374 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.319 We'll move on to something else during the nine o'clock hour. 375 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:06.359 But Rob the perfect good I know, you know that 376 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:11.440 whole story. Tell me about the perfect bid episode. 377 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:20.319 Well, okay, first of all, for the thirty five years 378 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:24.799 I worked with Bob, Bob and I always we always said, someday, 379 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.920 somebody's going to get the showcase right on the nose. 380 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.599 And then Bob and I we talked about something that's 381 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.599 going to happen that's going to be so exciting. Somebody 382 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.880 guesses it right on the nose. Well, it happened, but 383 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:43.519 not under my producership, and after Bob had left the show. 384 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:50.160 It happened during Drew Carey's rain and somebody got it 385 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:56.880 right on the nose. Okay, And this person got it 386 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:03.759 on the nose because we had there was a person 387 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:09.039 in the audience who knew the prices so well he 388 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:14.000 memorized them, and he came to a total. He saw 389 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.079 the prizes in the show. He came to the total, 390 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:20.400 and he started screaming it out, and the wife of 391 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:24.640 the contestant on stage was sitting right next to him, 392 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:27.480 and the wife then screamed it out to her husband 393 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.920 up and stage, and the husband up and stage got 394 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:37.799 it right on the nose. And when that happened, they 395 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:42.440 went to commercial break. You know, go to you make 396 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.359 your bids, and then you go to commercial break. You 397 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.480 come back from the commercial break and you reveal the differences. 398 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.960 So they went to commercial break, and of course the 399 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:56.759 show is now I'm sorry to say, run by inexperienced people, 400 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:01.279 and they stopped down. They think, oh my god, this 401 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.960