Speaker 1: A forty fifty five krc DE talk station. As always,
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Speaker 1: Wonderful learning opportunities on a whole variety of topics, from
Speaker 1: politics to gardening to lighting. And today I'm pleased to
Speaker 1: welcome to the fifty five CARC Morning Show Manada is
Speaker 1: all about lighting, Scott Zimmerman. He's the founder of a
Speaker 1: company called Silo Sinc. Maker of ni r A lighting,
Speaker 1: which is my understanding what near what near infrared enhanced lighting,
Speaker 1: and he'll explain that in the moment. He has one
Speaker 1: of the thirty five years of experience in the field
Speaker 1: of lighting and displays. Innovations and inventions have been used
Speaker 1: commercially in a wide range of military commercial products, including
Speaker 1: night vision displays, liquid crystal displays, back gliding designs, and
Speaker 1: lighting fixtures, and lately he's been focused on quantifying the
Speaker 1: health effects of natural sunlight and the concerns with LED
Speaker 1: type lighting. Scott Zimmerman, it's great to have you on
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, sir. It's a pleasure having you
Speaker 1: on today.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: The one common complaint I hear is the modern headlights,
Speaker 1: those brilliant almost blue blasting headlights. It's like the low
Speaker 1: beams are on, but it looks like you're getting hit
Speaker 1: by like five sets of light bulbs, all intense on
Speaker 1: high beam. That's one area where I at least recognize
Speaker 1: that a lot of people have, at least in my world,
Speaker 1: have complained about. But that's just one element of these
Speaker 1: blue lights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with you. There are
Speaker 2: the headlights are really annoying and a problem. But in general,
Speaker 2: I don't think people are aware that what the government
Speaker 2: has done with very hivarious doe debardment of energy mandates
Speaker 2: is eliminate about ninety percent of what we get when
Speaker 2: we walk out and look into up there or we're
Speaker 2: in normal outdoor blue sky type of situation. And what
Speaker 2: we're finding is I've been lucky enough to work with
Speaker 2: a number of world leaders in certain areas. Bob Jeffries neuroscientists,
Speaker 2: Bob Fosbery astrophysicists, for Robert Swelt, a forward board certification doctor,
Speaker 2: and we're finding that what they took away, the ninety
Speaker 2: percent of the solar spectrum that they took away from
Speaker 2: us with LED lighting is actually affecting our health and
Speaker 2: it was actually being used for some very important purposes
Speaker 2: within the body. So it's been kind of a very
Speaker 2: interesting We have probably one of the most diverse group
Speaker 2: of people looking at the problem, and it's something that
Speaker 2: I think we're trying to get them to change. What's
Speaker 2: going on, And like I say, it's a lot more
Speaker 2: than just headlights. It's also just what's affecting our kids, build,
Speaker 2: you learn, or immune system, a bunch of other things.
Speaker 1: Really well, I can understand the evolutionary process. Up until
Speaker 1: very very recent in human mankind's development, we relied on firelight,
Speaker 1: and of course with the incandescent bulb. Of my understanding
Speaker 1: is those did burn on a spectrum that provided this
Speaker 1: red and infrared light that we had become used to.
Speaker 1: But you know, enter the global warming phenomenon and these
Speaker 1: you know, compact fluorescent bulbs, which I always absolutely hated.
Speaker 1: Segue to LED bulbs, which until recently, and I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about them, up until recently they were
Speaker 1: really harsh. You know, the light was intense white light
Speaker 1: and didn't have any color to it. There's no warm
Speaker 1: glow to it now with modern LEDs, and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: you don't tell me that my can lights which are
Speaker 1: LED are bad froom because they're adjustable and you can
Speaker 1: get a warm glow from them. Is that the kind
Speaker 1: of NIRA technology you're talking about that's now being developed
Speaker 1: or have I got that wrong?
Speaker 2: And unfortunately it's not all they've done. It's the eye
Speaker 2: has a very limited only measures of UR can only
Speaker 2: detect about ten percent of the solar spectrum and the
Speaker 2: rest of it it has no idea what's going on.
Speaker 2: And so the lighting industry, you know, one of those green,
Speaker 2: misguided but well intended green attempts at saving energy. They said, well,
Speaker 2: let's just take the ninety percent that nature has been
Speaker 2: providing for millions of years and the body has adapted
Speaker 2: to and get rid of it, and instead we're going
Speaker 2: to only give you the part that chair I respond to, Well,
Speaker 2: that sounds like a great thought. Unfortunately, those other wavelengths
Speaker 2: were actually there to actually make it so that you
Speaker 2: could see safely. And so what are you seeing you're
Speaker 2: seeing explosion in blue blockers, in red light therapy, in
Speaker 2: you know, forest bathing, all these things. The public is
Speaker 2: sensing that there is a problem here, and now we're
Speaker 2: putting some sign behind it, and it's showing that hey,
Speaker 2: you know, those longer wavelengths that we can't see, we're
Speaker 2: actually there so that you could safely be in a
Speaker 2: blue sky or had you know, some of the immune
Speaker 2: improve your immune response or ability of the mitochondria to
Speaker 2: actually generate energy. And what's fascinating is that it's this
Speaker 2: multi disciplined team is now getting a lot of people
Speaker 2: jumping on the bandwagon saying, hey, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: we may win a little too far, and we actually
Speaker 2: have a petition now and to try and pull back
Speaker 2: some of the mandates that the DOE put in place,
Speaker 2: especially under the Biden administration, to say, you know where
Speaker 2: they were essentially creating requirements that would make for a
Speaker 2: toxic environment as far as all the lighting and you're
Speaker 2: not going to die tomorrow. I'm not saying that the
Speaker 2: point is is good, you know. You know. The point
Speaker 2: is is that you know, after millions of years of
Speaker 2: adaptation to the solar spectrum, the body has developed some
Speaker 2: amazing optic My field is optical engineering, So I looked
Speaker 2: at the optic side of things, and you see that
Speaker 2: the body literally collects and localizes some of these longer
Speaker 2: wavelengths around the fetus during development and or in through
Speaker 2: the brain structure. You know, I keep on saying, you know,
Speaker 2: think about the old days where you had a flashlight
Speaker 2: and you stuck it in your mouth and you were
Speaker 2: telling ghost stories and you see everything kind of glow
Speaker 2: red and orange. Well, the longer wavelengths actually penetrate deep
Speaker 2: into the body and they are stimulating various things that
Speaker 2: we are only now beginning to understand. But it is
Speaker 2: clearly something that is the body expects, and if it
Speaker 2: doesn't get it, then there's going to be an adverse effect.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like ying yang. You know, you need
Speaker 2: the visible to see and do your work and all
Speaker 2: this other stuff, but the longer wavelengths are there to
Speaker 2: kind of Okay, well that takes it is as harmful
Speaker 2: in some ways, We're going to use this to kind
Speaker 2: of offset it. So it's kind of like a on
Speaker 2: a you know, a like I say, a Yin yang
Speaker 2: type situation.
Speaker 1: Well, since we are literally surrounded by these everywhere we
Speaker 1: go these days. And I've been working under fluorescent lights
Speaker 1: for as long as I've been in a job. I
Speaker 1: presume that those also lack these red and infrared spectrums.
Speaker 2: That's correct, and you know, and what Glenn's done in particular,
Speaker 2: he's done a lot of studies now where he's showing that,
Speaker 2: you know, the the reintroducing the longer wavelengths having a
Speaker 2: positive effect on your eye ability to see color, contrast
Speaker 2: or other aspects. There's a strong a lot of people
Speaker 2: are doing red light therapy to increase wound healing. Well,
Speaker 2: those are real effects, and they do add up over time.
Speaker 2: And Glenn's done some great work with animal insects and
Speaker 2: things like that to show the twenty five percent increase
Speaker 2: in a lifetime associated with those flies and things of
Speaker 2: that nature. But we're just now starting to understand that
Speaker 2: all these different longer wavelengths that you can't see with
Speaker 2: your eye are just as important and in some ways
Speaker 2: more important. And unfortunately, there was a time when you
Speaker 2: may have been under a fluorescent light during work, but
Speaker 2: you came home to an incandescent and read his story
Speaker 2: to your son or your daughter, and that was giving
Speaker 2: you a plent or you had a fire in the
Speaker 2: fireplace going or things of that nature. So you know,
Speaker 2: these thermal sources are broad bandomitters that clear out into
Speaker 2: way out into the longer wavelengths. And as we dig deeper,
Speaker 2: we're seeing more and more cases where isn't that a
Speaker 2: coincidence that this is localized near this particular thing, And
Speaker 2: then you throw that in and so in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways, what we have is while RFK Junior is
Speaker 2: focused on processed food, we have processed sunlight and it
Speaker 2: is negatively impacting our ability for our kids to learn.
Speaker 2: And there's you know, and proving all that will take
Speaker 2: time and effort, but it's it's something that's simple to
Speaker 2: fix and and it still saves some energy. You know.
Speaker 2: That's what our products are basically showing. But my main
Speaker 2: focus is not on our products. So my main focus
Speaker 2: we tell everybody please just go outside. Don't be stupid outside,
Speaker 2: I put it, wear a hat. You know, you're not
Speaker 2: out there to bake yourself. But simply walking the forest
Speaker 2: then enhances the amount of near and for red that
Speaker 2: you're getting into your body, and there's a positive effect.
Speaker 1: Well, the production of vitamin D because not of us,
Speaker 1: all of us have enough vitamin D in our bodies
Speaker 1: because we send so much time in the house. You know,
Speaker 1: we're at work for eight hours or more and then
Speaker 1: we go home and we sit in front of our laptops.
Speaker 1: And I understanding laptops also have this negative effect in
Speaker 1: terms of the light that they produce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are only visible lighting. And you know, you
Speaker 2: think about children. This is the first generation where this
Speaker 2: is going to have a marked effect, and it already
Speaker 2: is having a marked effect, and that you know, it
Speaker 2: used to be you and I we would go out
Speaker 2: and we'd be building the fort or going and doing something.
Speaker 2: Even children's sports nowadays are usually done indoors under artificial
Speaker 2: lighting that contains none of these longer wavelengths. And you know,
Speaker 2: so if we can encourage people to safely and you know,
Speaker 2: you're not going to in the afternoon after school, the
Speaker 2: kids are not going to get a bunch of sunburns
Speaker 2: or things like that. In ninety nine, Flame of the Places,
Speaker 2: and you know, if they're working under doing stuff under
Speaker 2: trees or whatever, that's that's just more of the positive
Speaker 2: because if you get a chance. Bob Posberry has some
Speaker 2: great pictures of what's going on within the body where
Speaker 2: he shows how the near infra red penetrates all the
Speaker 2: way through your hand into your internal organs and then
Speaker 2: the trees when you're outdoors are reflecting in there and
Speaker 2: for red. So it's kind of like a pair of
Speaker 2: nature sunglasses where absorbing the visible and the UV but
Speaker 2: reflecting the they air inf red into people when you're
Speaker 2: outdoors interacting with nature. And so that's sort of and
Speaker 2: what's really exciting is is that Bob R. Roger Swelt
Speaker 2: is starting to He's a board certified doctor, emergency room doctor,
Speaker 2: pulmonary doctor. He started to take his parent patients out
Speaker 2: and seeing positive results by just simply going outside with him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So one takeaway we get today from Scott Zimerman, who's
Speaker 1: doing the seminar tomorrow night beginning at seven pm and
Speaker 1: power you America dot or get over there and register
Speaker 1: and learn more about this one takeaway today, get outside
Speaker 1: and enjoy some sunlight and forest bathing. Ron Wilson, our
Speaker 1: gardening expert, would love to hear this. If he was
Speaker 1: listening right now, he will be smiling with delight. This
Speaker 1: has been fascinating. Scott Zimerman, I look forward to my
Speaker 1: listeners joining the program tomorrow night, seven pm. Log in
Speaker 1: and learn something, and get home and get outside for
Speaker 1: a change. Thanks for your time today, it's really fascinating.
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Speaker 2: Hey Gary,