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We're gonna get into this Patreon question with Clay and
then we're gonna get in the other ones after because
there's nowhere to put it in. And we'll start off
with this fun and then we're talking about both Figi
and Marvel. You know this, This is what I love.
I love that dc We'll talk about suit Man as
of right now, looks like it could be a good
start to the DCU. I'm not gonna say FI did
all these interviews for like competition, could they get it?
A movie's coming out? But in my opinion, Figgy's never
talked the way he has in this interview. We're gonna
cover when he says like, oh yeah, Sony told us
to stay away from Miles Morales fivey two years ago,
to say, like, no, we'd love Miles Morales. We can't
wait to hopefully work with them one day. No, I
to me, we'll get into it. We're talking two big interviews.
One dropped him Friday with James Gunn with the Josh
Horwitz and then on Sunday FII did an interview of
Collider Variety, Holler Report, like they all got to sit
down with him, so that's why there was so much
Marvel news. But to me, the way he was talking,
I think I don't think he's gonna be jumping on
social media answering the same question over and over. But
I definitely felt like he was. He was gunning it
up a little bit of like I'm gonna be loose
and I'm gonna just just say stuff, you know. But
at the same time, in the same interview, he said
they really like Superman and he praised and said, oh
superhero fatigu doesn't exist, look at Superman. Well the things
Figgi's in an interview who I don't agree with, but
we're gonna break them. These two massive interviews, which have
big updates for MCU rebooting and the DCU projects and whatnot,
but we're we're gonna throw two cocktail. Clay's question has
nothing to do with any of those, but we appreciate
because we've likely or we've lately been liking the questions
that are very random and just out there and just saying, okay,
what could we talk about because we like the scenario.
So he says, the hypothetical scenario is you're in debt
ten thousand dollars to a drug lord. You can't skip
down because there's a giant, invisible dome around your town.
Damn it sucks. The drug lord gives you till the
first three days from now to pay up, and you
have zero dollars to your name at that moment. There
is no law enforcement available for assistance. A do you
try and make the ten thousand and three days? And
how do you do it? And b fight the drug lord?
What is your plan and your weapon of choice? Kirking
Pats are gonna start with you. What are you doing
in that scenario?
Speaker 2: It's a tricky question because I feel like there's a
lot of variables that are unanswered, and like specifically in
his terminology because it says an invisible dome gets dropped
over your town. So in my town of West Kelowna,
there's not a lot going on. There's no like that's
aig big bank that I can just go rob to
make ten thousand. I feel like it's it's pretty I
don't know, mom pa shops, Like it's getting a little
bit bigger, but like still I feel like to acquire
ten thousand dollars just in my town, Like I don't
even know where I would starts. Like, like I like,
even if I steal like a vehicle, you'd have to
sell it. And like, I don't know if you can
do all of that just in my town. Obviously, if
you're in like a big city, it's like way different situations.
So a little bit just for the sake argument, I'm
gonna stick to my town on what I know on
my playing field here. But I still don't think I
would be possible to just get ten thousand dollars in
three days. Like I guess you could just do some
very aggressive gambling, but I have pretty bad luck when
it comes to that. Yeah, it's like fifty to fifty
chance right that you're gonna make it, but you're starting
with zero dollars, So you got to do some. Then
you gotta panhandle just to get in the game. And
then what you youd bet that. I feel like I
would just be forced to fight him, just life or death.
And uh, but I would try and like have a
couple tricks up my sleeve because I imagine I wouldn't
be able to just take mom on monoymno. So I'd
have to, uh have some gadgets that I would have
to craft, whether it's I don't know, the old the
old dust in the eye trick that's pretty easy, uh
to improvise.
Speaker 1: Just carry dust around.
Speaker 2: Well, I would have to make some contraptions. But like, yeah,
so he just.
Speaker 1: Said weapon of choice, but he didn't make it.
Speaker 2: Sound like old and I have to craft it just anything.
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't take you that way. I took
it as any weapon because he said weapon of choice.
He didn't say weapon of because Clay was very specific
about the like he said the dome in your town,
all these scenarios. Yeah, he never said a weapon of
your choice that's available to you. Just said the weapon
your choice.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: That's why for me, it's option B. And I got
a fucking flamethrower and the drug lord. Yeah, he said,
weapon of your choice.
Speaker 2: How you choosing? How you to cat if I come back,
go on the ground and roll around, and then.
Speaker 1: When the guys, yeah, I guess what, I point down
and I just keep going.
Speaker 2: Because I'm rolling towards you and I'm going for your ankles.
Speaker 1: No, no you're not. It's too hot. I'm gonna get
a little ring of fire around me. You're not gonna
be able to stop me.
Speaker 2: Imagine that you take a shotgun.
Speaker 1: I got my money, Travis, I just kicked down. No,
but I got the heat for you right here, and
the like I think the shock in all, just the
flamethrower at first would be that situation again he said,
I guess he said drug lord. But at the same point,
then I'm fucking going out in style. Like at the
same time, like those reports that he had Tres died,
how you died, Well he got shot, but he was
flame throwing up this Druggler's place. The legend of me
would go down for decades. People talk about flamethrower Traus. Yeah, flamethrower.
I'm taking them on, even if it's just a regular fight.
Then I'm going brass knucks, because I think brass knucks
are one of the best weapons because they're around your fingers.
So because I always used to be yes, I used
to be a big proponent back in the day, live
in a bad neighborhood of walking home with the keys
in the knuckles that I had to use a few times.
So brass nuts and the keys are worse because you
can pull his knuckles. Those good. Any weapon you could get,
you know, hand broken taken, but going flamethrower because if
you've seen the distance that thing has two flint throwers,
like you could be like you just.
Speaker 2: Want upon time in Hollywood. That's why you're picking this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great weapon. Rick Dalton was fucking right.
Was the successful for Rahm Kirkland.
Speaker 2: I mean it was pretty easy. You know he's against
a very drugged up opponent that's already freaking out.
Speaker 1: Well, the drug word could be drug ball. He's a
trigger for a reason. He's gon hies his own supply.
Speaker 2: You give me another hit and that's a good pick. Okay,
he's gonna ask me.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like, hey, you got my money, and
then I'm gonna kick on the door and he's gonna
see something. This is the whole conversation stuff. It's gonna
be your laugh.
Speaker 2: When you're just flaming them up. I like that pick. Okay,
you want me over with the flamethrower. I think I'm
going white moves, just to be different. Whet have the same,
I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm taking it white moose.
Speaker 2: It'd be like white chocolate moose, white nose. Okay, white moose.
Just to be different. I'm gonna take a halberd. That's
gonna be my go to weapon. Scout could reach keep
him at bay if he comes too close, slice down
his shins, keeping it medieval. You know he won't be
I'm hoping he doesn't have a range weapon because then
I'm just fucked in this situation, because, like even in
your situation.
Speaker 1: If he killed me, hey, I killed the last gay.
Oh you know what, I got another answer to you
know what the perfect weapon would be to take this
guy down?
Speaker 2: What's just curt?
Speaker 1: Oh damn, it comes to the pumpkin bombs and everything.
The glider actually would be. That'd be a sick weapon
because the good thing is might be like, how do
you fly it? Clay? Since I got three days, I'm
throwing in their pumpkin and your life's online. So for
like seventy one hours, you're just practicing with the glider.
And yeah, and even then by attack wise there's the dome,
but you could still go up tall hard to shoot glider.
That's another good option. I think that's another good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the drug Lord's gonna be just seeing.
Speaker 1: That's it. It's percocets.
Speaker 2: That's my web there. I like a good question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Clay a discord, let us know, and anybody else
wants answer, let us know. But here we go. Okay,
let's start breaking down some of these topics. So we're
gonna start with the m CEU because.
Speaker 2: I'm very fresh, just so everybody knows. I don't know
anything that happened in these uh these interviews. So you're
gonna be breaking it down for me.
Speaker 1: Okay. So yeah, he said something about how.
Speaker 2: Never mind you I see you try to get something
out there.
Speaker 1: No, it's gonna go around, but I don't want to
go around.
Speaker 3: I don't you know, you know, I don't know what
to say something just having fun man, making movies, big adventure,
having a great time.
Speaker 2: I swayed there sometimes whether it's like maybe I'm late
at night or something. You know, it's a late late review.
I swear that's how I sound. Sometimes it's just like
final though, you know, it's just have time.
Speaker 1: Man, some ten loved it.
Speaker 2: We've all been the else. Nah, and you're like.
Speaker 1: Taking my final rating. Shit, Oh my god. Sorry anyway,
So okay, I'm gonna be a scrambled egg here, not
gonna go in order, not gonna read his quotes, because
I guess we had a lot to talk about. As
I said, he did interviews with multiple people because F
four is coming up. I do recommend reading one or
many at many points because they speak about some stuff that's,
you know, I feel not the usual Marvel norm, especially
for piis behind the scenes Steven, which will go down periodically.
Don't think everything's true. I think there's a good percentage
of truth there. I think there's a good percentage of
bullshit in here, and then there's a good percentage of
like somewhere in the middle, which is fine, what you
gotta do this to your head. But the same way,
and sometimes when Gun's been saying this some stuff like
oh I don't know about this, saying they were gonna
do a fi here, not that we hate the guy.
I love James Gunn and Kimi. He is like what
they've done, their film and everything, but you know, still
gonna call out this sometimes. But he did say so,
I can't remember how it was set up, but they're
talking about the mcufter Secret Wars and the interviewer hit
him with the reboot word, and he said, wellbots reboots
a scary word. We consider Again, I'm paraphrasing here, so
anyone don't jump in my throats. Last I'm saying that
he said they consider it more a la a reset
and trying to get back to a singular type of timeline,
which I think we've kind of talked about, right that
one Secret Wars stories, especially the second one, does that
where that's how you got Miles Morales and Peter Parker
be inspired at the same time because they just took
a bunch of universe, put them together, kept what they wanted.
So that's but the difference is we kind of assume that,
right we thought, Okay, one they're doing lots of multiverse stuff,
and two there's been a lot of projects that haven't
gone well, like do they want to use these characters again,
do they really want to bring back are they going
to pay off Harry Styles the star fucks? Probably not right.
So it was this combination of the route they're going
and the quality. But now you it's not like a
fucking it's not like a speculation. It's not like a oh,
we best educated guests. You have the man out here
saying after Secret Wars, they're saying reset. So that's why.
And in the same context he was talking about that
they will go and recast iconic characters like a Steve
Rodgers like it. Tony Stark he attributed that to He's like,
look what they're doing with Bond right now, look what
they're doing with like they just do a Superman David Cornysport,
which again he said, how much you liked the film,
And I always like that Gun and FIGI I don't
think there is a will, but they're they're both keep
each other in their names in the good way. So
I think that's kind of fun for the brands. But
he said those characters will be recast, So to me,
that's the big thing where I feel like before MCU
would have kept very quiet and when they started the
process then Foggy would have talked about oh, we're doing
this and it's gonna do this and blah blah blah.
But we're literally like, obviously the GA is not gonna care,
they're not gonna be reading this interview. But for the
hardcore fans and the people that have their eyes on
this project to actually have Figy just kind of confirming
their we're going we kind of know what the ending
of Secret Wars, right, We don't know who's gonna die
live how we get there, but we kind of know.
Now it's like, well, it is going to be a reset.
And it did also mention that The X Men are
going to be the kickoff for that reset. They are
going to be and again that's something we kind of
assume too, that that they would be the first film
after Secret Wars. It sounds like they are. He said
they're gonna be blopped down right in the middle of it.
They're going to be a young cast. He did say
young cast, so we kind of know what's route we're
going with the X Men, So probably more of those
like thirty twenty type of age actors. But I know
it threw a lot there at you, But what do
you think about that that now it sounds not sounds
like it is official that Secret Wars is gonna be
again out a reboot. I don't think everyone's going away,
but it's definitely like I don't even know. Can you
call if they do a reset? Can you even call
the next thing like a phase seven because I think
it's a reset. You kind of know reset with that.
Speaker 2: Right, so phase one of the New era whatever? Yeah,
trying to call it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you think about this about him
being and we'll go along this if too, but just
kind of you honestly, Yeah, Secret Wars were coming to
the end times and of this run of Marvel in
a sense.
Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, it is strange because taking us
back to what I'll call like the Golden era, like
in that Infinity War endgame realm, and we're.
Speaker 1: Sixteen twenty nineteen. I always say those three.
Speaker 2: Years were I remember specifically mentioned and yeah, one day
when they eventually you know, like start over, It's like
that's never gonna happen, what you're talking about. We're just
gonna keep building and building and building. This thing will
just get bigger and better all the way there. Uh,
And of course here we are and just knowing what
we know now it's a lot more likely than obviously
coming down to the man himself saying it out of
his out of his bush, which is mouth and French
in case you didn't know the Trevis.
Speaker 1: But speak as draft actually yeah, yeah, yeah, I always
speak Chinese, right yeah, all all the Chinese.
Speaker 2: I but like, I feel like it also to me,
it's in a weird way, like a relief knowing that,
just just knowing that for sure after Secret Wars like
that is when we're starting the it's almost like a
new phase which is kind of funny.
Speaker 1: But a new era that's called that instead of the phase,
the new era, because that's what.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be, right, yeah, just that, And it's like, okay,
now now I'm not thinking about how Harry's styles. Pip
the Troll is gonna be just into yeah, into some project,
and I'm totally okay with just letting that die. Maybe
they're gonna pop up the big characters and Secret Wars.
I guess we never know until we see it, but
uh yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Imagine a montage of Doom killing all those characters her control,
like the Eternals, like all the characters that where were they?
And then because technically they'd be like, well, we answered it,
we told you where they were, you know, dead it's.
Speaker 2: Just the Mond like the start of the film. It's
him just going through and like.
Speaker 1: The Wolverring montage and Deadpool will ring this it's doom
just killed. I'd be I'd be down. You can see almost,
but just showing from the back. You know, we always
talk with the log truck, Pip. The troll should probably
be the standard of the worst CGI Marvel's ever done.
That was for sure, Yeah awful. Yeah. Do you think
it all kind of like waving the white flag? Though?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Just I mean, I understand
why you can see it that way. I I I
see it as just like a closing note of this chapter,
especially knowing like five GE's contract, uh, you know, ending
sometime soon two years.
Speaker 1: Oh you did read the note. No, I don't mean
in the sense of them actually doing it. I mean
the sense of him telling us they're doing that because
I feel like, don't fit, like, oh, don't worry, don't worry,
Like it's gonna it's gonna get better, Like we're gonna
get there, We're just gonna get through all this. And
then you're gonna get back to the m C you know,
in love not that they're doing because I think it's
the right call to do it. I think it kind
of whether it's a good call on choys or they
accidentally just went, oh shit, we screwed up a bunch.
We should do this, just like comics do all the time.
But I mean, like him actually going out there and
just been like, yeah, we're kind of starting over after
Secret Wars that, so I wanted to feel like it's
a little bit of a there's a couple of white
flags in here. Like I've said this multiple multiple times,
and I think it's I'm not gonna say cowardice because
we're talking about like very first world combook stuff. But
for them to be like, yeah, and you know, one
of our biggest problems is we got to recast Tony,
we got to recast Steve. I doesn't like that's not
been the biggest problem of the MSU since Endgame one
is has been yeah, kay. They did have to put
it a lot, and that probably did fatigue people because
you had Sony Marvel and then you steal DC popping off.
But at the same time, it's like you put out
a lot of stuff that also wasn't good. And that's
the problem too, where I feel like they are trying
to do They're trying to him and other people Marble
are trying to gaslight us and be like, well, you
know why peop aren't loving the MCU, it's because it's
not Steve Rogers and it's not Tony Stark. And it's
just like, I don't necessarily agree. I think offs very
unfortunate thing that they lost Shadowick for more reasons of that,
but that that was gonna be a pillar. But like
you have movies like Strange almost made a billion dollars
though We're still made seven hundred, and these are numbers
at post COVID, very good numbers. So it's like you
have multiple characters that can carry the load. And I
guess I get it. Captain America came out this year,
but you could argue it's coming out a time where
MSC's the lowest as far as hype since it started.
And I just feel like them saying, Okay, we're starting over,
and oh, don't worry, we're gonna recast Toning, We're gonna
recast Steve. It just feels a little cheap to me,
because then what's gonna be the excuse of let's say
Our Man twenty twenty nine played by Tom Cruise comes
out it fucking sucks. What's the excuse then, right, Because
I feel like that's what they're doing now is oh,
we're gonna get back to the characters you love. Well,
what if we get back to them and they suck too?
So like what you're gonna say now? I feel like
I don't. I didn't love that answer. I was like,
I think they should get back there. I understand because
you can't have those characters dead are gone forever. But
it feels like they're kind of holding that as like
the the beacon for oh, that we gotta get back
to when the MC was good. It's like knowing people
could have made that argument if they didn't have Spider Man,
they didn't have the X Men, they didn't have other characters.
But you use some of the lower tier characters and
you made people care about Guardians and Thor and even Cap.
To me, people that think Cap was like a fucking
super popular character. People was like Superman. They hated Cap
because he's boring and he's too goodye two shoe, but
he became like one of those vital pieces, you know.
So it's just like, yeah, you can make any character.
And they even had my last point before I threw
to you, they had a cheat code of endgame happened,
and they're starting a new saga with characters you were
already invested in, like Loki and Sam and doctor Strange. Like,
if anything, you look at the Phase one box Office
compared to Phase four even with COVID, they're fucking laughing
because of just like these characters were already established and loved,
you know. So it's just I don't know, That's why
I worry, because there's other things this interview that make
me worried. But yeah, you threw a lot there.
Speaker 2: But no, I mean totally fair points, especially just them
putting in by them, I mean him him being the
big Kevin Foggy of just a lot of emphasis on
it being yeah, like we got to get back to
Tony and Cap and I think you make great points
of I think it's pretty idiotic if they just see
it as that'll solve our problems. I would hope that
isn't their perspective, even though it's like laid out this
way in the interview. I'm hoping it's not just well
it didn't work, you know, like like going down these paths.
But as you also highlighted, like they they had established
characters and they just didn't use them. Well, it's not
it's not a matter of we were missing Robert Downey
and the yeah came back already, right, yeah, yeah, true. So,
oh no, I had something else is gonna add on
there with the oh the white flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I definitely didn't see it as like when I initially
was just reading through this list of notes. Again, I
didn't hear it from his mouth, but just just seeing
what was said, I didn't see it as being white
flaggy because it just it seems like just this is
the plan going forward, and this is how we're gonna
do it, and then obviously answering some questions we're regarding
some things in the past or maybe the future. But
I don't know it. To me, it just seemed like, Okay,
we are going to get back to Tony and Steve eventually.
Just knowing that it's going to be at the end
of Secret Wars, I mean, how far that is that
project out? Like years wise?
Speaker 1: If no delays, that's twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: So two years from now, so twenty twenty seven, and
then like, when did we lose our Iron Man and
Steve was that twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen, twenty eight years, So even without just not
even a decade.
Speaker 2: It feels longer than that in my mind. I don't
know why if it feels covid.
Speaker 1: I know it's the default joke answer, but really feel
like that. And it's tough too to me for like,
not so much with Iron Man because Ironheart came out
of knowing cared, but with cap we've gone like I
don't feel like I've missed him yet because you've gone
variants of Captain Carter and then Sam and then you've
also got Chris Evans back as Human Torch, which I
know he's not playing Captain America, but what was the
joke that he was Captain America takes it all flame on, right,
so they were still like inciting that, like, oh it's Captain.
So it's just like I haven't felt like, oh man,
I'm really of course I miss Chris ms. But the
same time, it's like we've got ten years of the dude,
like like we got tons of them, so it's like, yeah,
of course I missed them in the role, but it's
I didn't feel like unsatisfied. It's not like they introduced
doctor Strange and then kill them off an endgame, like, oh,
I wish we would have got more of that character.
That was the thing with Tony Enkap. It felt like, oh,
we got the like pretty much the right amount to
say by to them for at least for a little bit,
you know, which we we did, But now it feels
like they're you know, we know down he's back. We
know Evans is back. It's not official, but we know
that's happening. You know, he's already came back, So why
would he come back again?
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, exactly, It's easy. He's already on property I. I.
The other thing that also helps me think of this
not such a I don't want to say negative way,
but just just a more white flaggy situation is the
Secret Wars event is And before I even get there,
I feel like the MCU of late has just been
so messy with the scale that we're at now, with
the obviously there's multiverse. We got Loki in his tree
just somewhere, we got gods. We like, there's just so
many factors out there, and when we get into Secret Wars,
I imagine it's gonna be like a fucking blender of
just chaos and just just mixing up of everything that, Like,
how do we get back to a more grounded story
and it's a big universe, we we could we could
just side side window and just just tell a story
about I don't know Ironheart, I never saw it, but
just just yeah, more more more grounded story. But I
like the idea more of just Okay, we're gonna do
Secret Wars. Pandora's box is gonna be opened somehow it
just gets fixed. But like in doing that, it changes
everything going forward, like as if we're in a completely
different instead of six one six something else.
Speaker 1: Six one seven.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's gonna be that though, like a
six one seven or it's like, no, this is just
our six one six now, it's just a different Like
what did you get from what you're saying?
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the six one seven. We'll
just call it that for now. That's a smart way
anywhere six one seven we're deeming right now. Figy take
these ideas and again I'd say the same fight, I
trust fight I wouldn't get I joked on the vodka stream,
like a fantastic for like open to a thirty million,
then yeah, I'd say Figy's probably you're getting shown the door.
But it's like if I has more wins than losses,
And even in this record of this shaky period, not
even money wise, there's things I love, like I still
consider no Way Holmes my second favorite one that's still
like him and Sony, but it's like saying with dead
Bulle Wolverine, yes it's mostly Hugh and Ryan, but if
they don't get the green light from Figy to do
that and to make it radar, he could easily, which
I didn't put this in the notes, but he even
said like, oh yeah, we're gonna do more radar projects,
which is so funny because a few years ago he
said other than Deadpool'll ring, nothing else gonna be radar
where it sounds like Blade is and that's where it
shows as I think so much has changed, and this
is why I wonder what the change is. Is it
that Foggy's wanted this stuff, but Disney's like, hey, it's successful,
don't break the wheel, and He's like, okay, I'll sit back,
or is it him reacting of if he personally felt
I never want to do radar stuff and then sees
the market go oh, we got to change. And I'm
not saying that's bad, right, That's not a bad thing
because you got to change stuff all the time. It's
like I won't. He's a business owner's scent, so but
I just wonder what the chicken and eggs in an
area is if he's always want to do that or
if he's reacting the same thing. So my point of
you asking the six one seventh thing is in the
interview when he's talking about Superman, he said what he
loved about Superman, which I feel like he's like leeching
off to make his point. He's like, they'll throw you
in this world that's already living and don't explain anything.
They'll be like, oh, who's mister terrific? Oh well you'll
figure it out. What's happening here? Well, go with it,
you'll figure it out. I feel like that was him
kind of prepping you for like, Hey, we're gonna restart,
and it's tough, right because if you reset and you
get a character. Let's just say, because I think Kitelson
will be done and Sam. That's a tough thing to me.
It's like, if you're bringing back Steve Rogers, I feel
like Sam's gonna get bench. And now, like if you
were to ask me, I think Mack he's gonna I
think he's gonna die. I wouldn't have set that years ago,
but now I think they'll kill him off. So it
doesn't feel as bad because it's not like, oh, Stee's
back and you know, thanks black guy for holding the shield.
It's mine again. But if Steve, if Sam's dead, it's
not as bad because like, oh, I'm Karen in his memory,
you know, my good friends. And I'm not saying it's
Chris Evans. It'll be which we'll thought with some new
act or something.
Speaker 2: But I think Chris Evans is his shield.
Speaker 1: I think Mack, especially that story, but he like Evans
was the one to tell him he's Captain America and
he's like again, he's like, well you know what I'm
I'm taking the shield to be buddy.
Speaker 2: We're good enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that Disney Plus show. Yeah, but anyways, yeah,
find Red Hulk was cool. Eh, So I think that
let's care, let's let's say I'll say strange. Right, Let's
say we don't get a strange three and in the
reset he's there, and this actually works because he's a
character that can do magic timelines all this stuff. For me,
it is odd where you can't do the route where well,
none of that stuff happened to me. You can't completely
reset and say well he's mind wiped and everything that
you know is gone. That's that's kind of tough, right.
So I feel like it's gonna be almost similar to
what they're doing, like funny enough with Gun in DC,
where he's gonna be like, well, some stuff in season
when peace Maker happened, but some stuff Tint's like, yeah
he still killed brick Flag, but uh, you know he
didn't actually see the Justice League. So it's like it's
just like a pick and choose which at the end
of the day, if you're looking at the box office
and success, that's probably the route route, the right route,
because you know who's gonna have the problem with it
is just us the people that watch, Like when Peacemaker
season two comes out, they're not gonna the pell that
just casually watch or enjoy it. They're not gonna be like, well,
wasn't Momoo's all come in in that and now he's
that's us that's doing that, right, because we're just that's
the way we're wired because we love this stuff, so
we look at every detail. But even that we've talked
about the original MSU had some of those things that
didn't make sense, an incredible halt. They say that Iron
Man's a part of the Avengers. Iron Man two picks up.
He's trying to get into the Avengers. He doesn't make
much sense, and he watched them back to back, but
they just, eh, whatever, like people don't care, and that's
what happens, right, We laugh, and you can always say
it's not perfect. So I think they will do in
a way where some characters remember some stuff because you
don't want them to lose those experiences. But it's I've
always pitched this. I've been pitched this for years. It's
gonna be Hugh Jackman at the end of the day's
future pass. Not saying Hugh Jackman himself, but the way
that when he comes back and Xavier's alive, and Scott
and Jeane are alive and there together, and no one
else remembers this stuff but him, I think That's what
they'll do is in the six one seven, they'll be
let's say like fifteen to twenty characters that they remember
the previous what happened. Then there's a lot of characters
that don't, or they have no memory at all about it,
or they've been swiped whatnot. So that's kind of I
think a fun way too, because you kind of have like, oh,
that's our og squad, like Tall Hall, he knows stuff,
and like Strange he knows stuff. But then like the
New X Men, they're not burden with all this baggage
of the last like two thousand and eight. So I
think that's what they're gonna do. I think they're gonna
do the comb book route, and they're gonna try because
I don't care even with the success or the lack thereof,
or the mixed results. I'll say everyone that said they
should reboot after anygame, I think that's idiotic. In my opinion.
We would not got dead Pool Wolverine, you wouldn't have
gotten No Way Home. You wouldn't have got Lokey, which
because remember everybody, the first year Disney Plus was Loki
Falcon and Wanta Vision. Everyone fucking love Loki everyone fucking
loved Wanta Vision, So to me, there was no reason
to reboot. They had a bad deal of i'd say
creative choices, which is on them. They had told they
had to do a bunch of content. COVID happened, the
strikes happen, Some of that stuff their fault, some of
the stuff that there's not. It was just a perfect storm.
So to me, it's like, if they were still rock
and rolling, why would they reboot? So I never bought that,
but I think I think they will reset, and then
some characters will the memories and some don't. I think
it'll be weird for us, But then if the movie's good,
in the universe is good, then you just get going.
Because I do agree with people on that front of
it is kind of odd that you're gonna have X
Men Fantastic for and there's not a Tony Stark around.
You know. That does kind of suck, you know, even
Steve Rodgers to a lesser degree. But at the same time,
I'm kind of fine at that because I do like
the same character. But I get that too, Caps one
of my favorite characters. But how do you feel about
that as far as like a reset? Do you think
that it should just be like a start over and
like the big bang happened and no one remembers anything.
Should some people like a combination? How are you feeling about?
Like cause sounds like X Men? And I also think
that X Men when it starts over, it's not gonna
be a bunch of connections. It's gonna be very singular
of like hey, it's the new MSU and it's the
X Men. It's not gonna be like, well how do
they tie to Nick Fury and you know read Richard's
I think it's just gonna be very similar to the
first phase where or like Superman where you'll have MCU stuff,
but it's not you're gonna have to watch everything, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a good idea to have
some sort of like a passover roster to just hand
off like the next era, the six one six to
the six one seven, just to like so it's not
such a shock if you go down, sit down, and
you're gonna introduced to all these different characters, like you
have a pre established and like yeah, yeah exactly, like
like they don't have to reference you know, back in
two thousand and eight when I was in that cave
with Tony with a bunch of scraps, like like we
we don't have to go, you know, the sad extent.
But yeah, like just having them there, I think just
says a lot without having to explain them or sorry,
having to explain all the details. And I don't really
know what like the golden number is for characters, whether
it's like just one, I don't know what character that
would be. I think like a handful. It was a pretty.
Speaker 1: I say, strange thora strange.
Speaker 2: One, especially that you highlighted because he's like, you know,
the master of mysticism, like like it just makes sense
that he would be going to different universes already.
Speaker 1: Plussworth and Hall and I think and then if f
Ford does, well.
Speaker 2: You know you still think Himsworth's making it through? Eh, yeah,
I do, I really do.
Speaker 1: He's always said he's down to keep doing it again.
If you take out the multiverse stuff, it goes Doctor Strange,
Black Panther and then Thor like as far as their
biggest film since COVID. If if he's not down, then okay,
then you shadow the character. But if he's still down,
I wouldn't if you're asking me fivey Like executive Hemsworth's
down to go. Do you kick out the third highest
grossing character in the last five years. I'm like, no,
sign him up and maybe you do them more and
if it's less then you say, Okay, maybe it's time,
but I take one more shot. And especially too with
what he said, what they've done with it, well, I
imagine with Avengers and Russo's I feel like in the
Avengers movies, he's gonna go back to being big time badass,
and I think a lot of people are gonna be
like juicing for a Thorn movie the same way people
were juicing for a Hulk movie after the first Avengers,
but they couldn't make it, so they were fucked. I
think that's what's gonna happen the same way think about
think about Infinity were Thor if you can get back
to that level where he has a tinge of comedy
but he's the gimme Thanos and he comes and Rand like,
if you can get back to that, And I think
that's what people want from Thor now. I think they're
done with the joking stuff. I think there's tons of
mileage in that character. Loki. I think he's he's done
after this, I don't know what mileage is left for
low Ki.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he saw the memes that we were hitting with
his lady.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Just a great actress, just not not
that movie. You know, but not that movie.
Speaker 2: What did hems we say in interviews? You just says
he wants to do He.
Speaker 1: Just always said he's down to keep doing it.
Speaker 2: He like after thor one, I I would say, up.
Speaker 1: Until like let's see, let's pull it off. Let's see
what let's do like a Google search thor Marvel Future
because I feel like even like fagging an interview today
some correct me. I thought he speaked about him being
like there's gas in the tank or something like that.
Speaker 2: But he's just milking him for all he's god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know he posted me he's just been.
Speaker 2: In like since phase one, right, Like that's crazy to
the longevity that he would have for him to still
have the stamina to be like fuck yeah, I want
to keep playing this role for for and like you know,
he's in great shape. It's not like he has to
get in shape to play the role. Like I like,
he's big, uh yeah, just physical fitness guy. So he's
always down to go. I'm sure, but just a matter
of like I don't know, showing up to the call.
Speaker 1: So apparently well showing up like who did we just
get back last year? Jackman back right, and like also
he had a break, but like doesn't matter. So yeah,
this was the quote in Deadline Day he said, can
Fuddy believes Chris Hemthorp Chris Hempsworth is still in his
prime and can continue playing Thorn in the MCU. And
that's supposed brings up Yeah, because ms we posted like
a like a tribute video Thor character. But he's just
announces back to me. That reads Kevin Funny believes Chris
Hemsworth still is in his prime and can continue playing
Thorn in the MSU. He's saying that when at the
same time he's talking about recasting, because I mean some
about these recasts, he's not talking about Thor. He's talking
about you know, also the characters be loss but still
he could have set all the Vengers right, so to
me when he's talking about resetting recasting, but in the
same article he says, oh, yeah, Hempsworth can keep playing Thor.
And I'll try and find out, but I'll say at
least around Ragnarok like endgame time. I think Hempsworth had
said like, yeah, I'm down to keep playing this as
all as well have me because I think he's smart
as it's a fucking money maker and you can do
all this stuff and he's good at the role. So
I think he's Like I said, I think the F
four's you're keeping. I think you got Holland, you got Strange,
you have Hemsworth, and then I don't know what's gonna
have with Jackman. But Ryan Rails is also an easy
one because the Deadpool character you can easily keep. That's
an easy yeah fourth wall joke. Oh we're in it,
you know, like and he they did, he didn't get specific.
Remember I'm not sure if you remember this news from
a couple months ago. Ryan Renilds is writing a Deadpool film.
There was two things that came out this week that
won the rumors that Wolverine's in that film again, so shucks.
But then figg, he did say that like they're in
talks with Hugh jack Like this is why I'm surprised.
Like Fily literally just says, yeah, we're in talks with
Ryan Renlds and Hugh Jackman. Do more in the past.
He would never fight. He didn't even say, oh, we
have them signed on to something. He says we're in talks,
which means they're figuring out money. But like that's where
I feel like this is a different fig were to say, oh, yeah,
we're in talks with him. Now you've put the power
on fucking their camp. So I think Reynolds is another
keeper that you would transition over to the the six
one seven. He can remember everything and make jokes about
all time, Like, wouldn't it be great when he bumps
into a character like Iron Man makes a joke in
that Ironman has no idea who's fucking talking about because
it's Tom Cruise playing him. It's like that didn't happen
to me. He's like, and then like it looks camer
like I think it.
Speaker 5: Did, like easy stuff with Deadpool in the New Universe, right,
I just I'm just thinking of the uh, the possible
future that we get Jackman back as Wolverine in like
the next reboot.
Speaker 2: So it's just like, holy fuck man, the longevity that
you Jackman has had in the existence the pre MCU character, Yeah,
outlasting everyone.
Speaker 1: I know people don't like to hear it, they want it,
but I think there's a good chance that if Jackman's down,
I think he's staying. I think he can play the
old grizzle Wolverine Daphning keenex. Twenty three. Like I think
now more than ever before they do they they said
that we cast the X Men. Yes, I get it,
but like I think now more than ever, they still
want to keep some of their big players going on.
Well think an a break and the will tublet some
of these comments here, so we'll be right back and
we're back. Mike says. The reason we love Tony and
Steve is because Marlo let us stick with them for
multiple movies. Every new character since Endgame, even the good ones,
have been either abandoned or mismanaged. Except for Layna. I agree,
But even to Mike your point with that, even Elayna,
when do we get her? We got her again COVID,
but still two thousand and twenty one, and then we
didn't see her, not counting TV for movies. Wise, we
didn't see her again for another four years. That wasn't
happening in those first four years the MCU. I've always
said this. I've said this for a long time, even
before I was saying the Avengers film should happen, we
don't have a core four. You had Ironman, Cap, Thor,
and then you could always argue it's like the fourth
that's like Hulk or Spider Man or Black Liddle. But
still even the Trinity, you did not have those three characters.
You were falling. At least with those ones. You always
had the touchstones of Thor, Cap and Tony. You could
go back to, well, those are the big ones, and
if they're in something, I know, I got to see those.
There is no main character right now. That's what they're
trying to do right now. Right we've talked about this
where it sounds like they're kind of rushing to like
Thunderbolts f four Avengers, where it feels like, because that's right,
you said that earlier. I was gonna answer when you're like, oh,
you know, some of those bigger characters will be in
Avengers with the side stuff. I don't even think they're
gonna explain it. I think they're just gonna be make turnals,
Hercles whatever, Ironheart, like a bunch of other characters, they're
just like they're gone. It's just like you just never
tear from them, see from them until they get like
recast in the six one seven, and that's where I
feel like they'll have their their mini arcs here with
the Thunderbolts. But the same thing. It's like because that
movie didn't do that well, like other than Florence, even
the flores Peet's like, I don't know for seeing those
Thunderbolts ever again. You know, like this for everybody, if
you do have you, if you've enjoyed some stuff, which
I have in Phase five and four, I would say,
enjoy these next two movies because I do think a
lot of these characters and actors you won't see again.
I don't think they I don't think they will exist
the same thing Thunderbolts. I was like, man, I hope
we get like another one and we get all these
adventures that we've got with Guardians. There's a shot I
think that Doomsday and Secret Wars is and then we
were off to the races and maybe Pew they'll keep
because I could you know, bigger star and I think
everyone loves her, so I feel like she's Yeah, I'd
add her in that the handful of characters that like
they remember some stuff and you can just make her
the nick main canon black Widow, right. I don't think
too many people are gonna be like, oh fuck Natasha Rovna.
It's not the main black widow on Avengers. It's you know,
you lay Noble. It's like, nah, I don't think people
like Pew, So I think you can just cycle her in. Yeah,
be fine with it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I definitely think Yolina was extremely underused for like
just the spark that she had after Black Widow. Like, man,
they could have just had her part of like so
many projects right after the that, but I guess their
priorities were just we're just elsewhere. And in terms of
her being one of the uh, the ones that would
make it through, I mean, I love Florence sau will
definitely take it. It's that one's a little bit actually no,
I was gonna say it's a little bit harder of
a cell, but it's really not, because it's it's all
about popularity and.
Speaker 1: Just and none for families all dead, right, her mom
or we don't know where mom is, but Natalia is
dead or Natasha's dead, they can kill Red Guardian and Doomsday.
If she's like alone, then it's like, well, what's worse
being alone or going to a new universe with like
a few people. You know, maybe they're not your friends,
but at least you know him right where like the
old universityr whole family's dead.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then uh no, we're here to talk
about dead Pool.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Kevin Davis, my only concern with MCU reboot
is the focus on storytelling stop including diversity inclusion, just
to make money. Also, they don't want to offend the
audience right now. They want money. I agree with you, Kevin,
but I think unfortunate we are in that time when
Iger said that to me, very silly thing of all.
We just want to get back to telling you know,
great great you know, doing great movies is a tom
Cruise thing. Like literally they asked about like what's the
movies man? Yeah, having fun and you're like, oh, we
don't want to tell like these like really he didn't
say political or he didn't say woke, but he had
some quote about like I'll try and find it next time,
Kirking talk. I'm just like those type of stories you want.
I want stories that can appeal to everybody.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 1: In our Patreon the Commons, Clay was talking about because Maddy,
we're gonna get to He asked like, oh uh, three
choices of for Steve, three choics for Tony and he
Clay was like, oh, it would be cool if they
U Jenner swalt them. I'd be completely down. Fuck you
tell me twenty twenty nine Iron Man starring Marbo quality.
Fucking give it to me. Give it Tommy right, yeah, yeah,
give it to me right now. But there is no
way I think I unfortunately, I don't think it's Abouted
the thing. I think that's part of the reason why
Steve's gonna come back as Captain America, because well, let's
get the white Captain America back in there, and they can,
unfortunately use stuff like the box office be like, well see,
people don't really you know, he's not whying and look
it's the lowest gross like all that type of stuff,
even though beat Captain America one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: But again you could say he's a bear star. I
think Kevin, you are right where I think my only
hope is foggy. It'd say that the X Men are
going to deal with being out of place in the universe.
So I hope they can do that. And that's one
thing you can still do it as someone that did
just see you know, Mike's in the chat. I saw
Wicked a couple of weeks ago. Wicked is a story
about racism. It's everyone being like, hey, this person's green
and they're fucking weird because they're green. There's no other
reason to say they're weird, and than like she looks different, right.
But they do it in a very fantasy type of way,
and I think that's what they can do with X Men,
where you're I don't know if you're gonna get a speech.
I can Falco We're Soldier, where Sam goes, hey, I'm
a black man as Captain America. We're in the start
of stripes. How do I feel. I don't think they're
gonna be that avert about it right now. I think
for many reasons. Obviously just I think it's a two
for of the politicalness of America. Yes, there's lots of
stuff that's very right centric right now, and we even
see a Superman that can hurt the box office. But
I think it's also just that people in general are
just I said this with Mickey seventeen some other stuff.
I think people are just over political talk in general.
Because there's been so much of it ever since, like
even in Canadon for I'd say, for you guys in
America since Trump took office, and then for US since COVID.
I feel like I've been it was so much political
speak the last five years. Even myself was a very
person sometimes like I'm tapping out, but he still can't
because you want to fight the good fight and you
want to read policies. But there is a point of
sometimes the same thing, like editing thing like I still
want to see the Ariostra movie didnri Arister, but like
there is part of me it's like, well, if I
don't get to see it, it's fine because I've never
been excited for it, because even Ari has been like, yeah,
it's all about COVID and being on Twitter and what
people were going through. It's like I don't want any
of that, and I will watch. I'm hopefully watching theaters,
but I'm running at a time already. If it's not
this week, it'll be a VOD. But that's where for
me it wasn't like a must because it's like, well,
it's a topic I don't really care about. So the
same thing where the X Men if it's about, hey, uh,
we don't like this guy because he looks like a
raw or even fantasts for we don't like this guy.
He looks like a rock. The idiots will be like, well,
that's not about racism because he's a rock monster, and
that's what it's about. But that's how I think they're
going to do these allegories. It's much more back to
being not so overtly in your face, which I think
would be a little cowardice. I think that's what I
again positively about Superman. That could be that hurts them.
They were that movie's very political. You could look at
that and see the Russia, uh you know stuff, the
pal Sign Israel stuff, the Russia of God, what's the
what's the places thank you? Yeah, you can see those
all in there. Yeah, you can see. Like I've said
in the review, Maxwell Lord says, uh, liberal and conservative.
You never hear them the MCU. But I think MCU Disney,
they're gonna be much more back to welcoming to the
everybody because you know, Michael Jordan said a long time
ago when he would not endorse the president, he said,
it doesn't matter what political party on everyone buys sneakers
and I think Disney's gonna have that what a quote. Yeah,
he's never took away, he's he stood by it even now.
But yeah, what do you think about a charging court?
But what do you think about MCU and that as
far as maybe doing storytelling that's not so you know,
real world to oriented.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that stuff hasn't really bothered me
at least for like the way that they've done in
the past. I can definitely understand, like sometimes it just
seems like they're going a little bit too much in
the direction, and like it doesn't really bother me. But
like I understand when people have issues of maybe not
even necessarily like a political topic, but just like the
lack thereof attempt to like spice it up and like
make it feel fantastical, like it just it just feels
like a very blatant like, Hey, this is our version
of this real world event, or this is our version
of this character that's like just a caricature of a
real life individual. Those get a little bit eyrallly to me.
They don't bother me that much, but I can definitely
understand people's complaints there. I think it's fine if you
maybe gear it back a little bit, but I definitely
still think it is important to at least have somewhat
of those those just ordeals in the Marvel projects, because
it is taking us to a different world, but like,
you know, there's still New York, Like, there's still taxis,
there's still food delivery services in these Marvel universes, like
it is still paralleling our real world. So I think
to just completely like like if Marvel is just like,
oh man, there's no racism in our in our universe,
it's just like immunes, right, yeah, like like is this
is this children's cartoons or is this like Marvel? Like
we're as an adult, I want to get excited to
go to the movies because it's just it's it's the
more it's the superhero realm of my own universe. So
I I'm I'm kind of in the middle of like
I understand people's complaints on like the more overtly uh
just like lazy versions of doing it, But I I
definitely don't want to see it completely gone because it's
it is important and it's important to just address these topics,
but you don't have to make that the whole theme
of the movie. But and maybe you maybe you can
and it's done and it really will a really good sense.
I think Falcon Winter Soldier is kind of like, oh,
topics called the Black Panther. Yeah, okay, yeah that was
I was gonna say peak. But I'm like, I got
to reel it back and think about all the projects here,
because I mean there's even Civil War, Like there's some
really good political stuff in there.
Speaker 1: And even Thunderbolts. It's not even about race or anything
like that, but I guarantee there's somebody like, oh, movie
the Mental Health. It's like, yeah, but I like that's
something I made Thunderbolts different. We've seen like multiple like
here's a bunch of weird people teaming up together. You know,
but if you said something there in your speech where
like oh, just making cartoons for kids, it's like but
then the top Hollywood films this year are Leland and
Switch of Minecraft, So it's like that's the thing where
it's like, maybe that is that, because like, well fuck
if Minecraft can beat Captain America.
Speaker 2: I didn't go and see Minecraft though as an adult,
you know they don't want it for those projects. Maybe
they want to medium Kevin, come on, after everything, I
did for you, all the money I've given you and
your company.
Speaker 1: As says, I'm locking it in, and they're literally gonna
do the future days of future past. Anyway, with Hugh
Jackman remembering the past, especially at the universe emerging, he
remembers more than just the main MSU. It would be
kind of funny where you have this Wolverine where his
universe died, like the Immunes all got killed. So he
goes to Deadpool's universe and that gets closed and he's
like it his third universe, and it's like, man, I
he going through. But that would work as a way
to show like, hey, I've been through this before. I've
been through like I've had to hop universes. And he
could be that guide, right, even if there's a couple
other characters, If you have him in like that, that
role of a mentor, he could be yeah, I've I've
done this before. This is my third universe. What do
you want to know? How do you deal with it?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: So it's possible, But yeah, I don't think it's people
thinking Jackman's done. I don't think it's a I'm not
saying I'm one hundred percent, but I'm not saying I'm
a zero percent either, I could easy well see if
we're talking about the handful of characters that are left
in six one seven, if you say, yeah, Jackquean's gonna
be there to go, Yeah, makes sense to me, Like
Money Baker, like he still is good in the role,
especially now they got him with a suit. Like I've
said before, he did not have to work out as
hard as he did for Edible Wolverine, like just wear
the fucking suit man, But he still did his you know,
shirt offs the sight and do it.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got to feel those muscles under all
that leather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see here if I actually had this quote,
which I thought was interesting on his take. I said
this before Woke and d I t Ei became a thing.
I'm still saying it after Marvel is the world outside
your window, which I hope that is true. I hope
that I can't remember. It stands for yeah, it's like
making sure that you know people aren't passed over because
they're race, and it's like there's kind of a voice
for everyone there. So and yeah, I hope those words
remain true. It's easy to say it on paper. Now,
let's see if they do it in a project, right,
which they have in the past. So I'm going to
just assume, just like what I'm doing with James Gone
right now, I'm gonna assume he's telling me the truth
and I'm getting the Batman two in a couple of years.
I'm gonna assume Kem Figi because he's done it before,
he is telling me the truth, and we're gonna see
projects like Black Panther and you know, uh, you know
Cap cap'n Falcon, Cap Captain America and Winter Soldier whatever
the fuck was called. Uh, Eric says Superman his boss
I was later let's see, yeah, we'll talk about that
stuff one of the DC. So so then another thing
on my this is where it's like we do the
BS meter right, And this was back into my uh
way in the white Flag thing, this I either this
whole statement here was this comes down to Marvel and
Figgy and it shows that they have lost a step
and they're planning skills and the creative skills are not
good or they're completely lying to us. When Kim Figgi
in this interview here revealed well, you know what with
Kang even before yeah, even before Man three, weird thing
about replacing him. I was already talking to Downey and
we're thinking about you know, you know he could come back,
doctor jumeier Man. So here's the thing, this is why
it doesn't track me. And I just think it's bs.
You know what, you could just say, hey, we we
did it. That's one thing. I think he did kind
of cop to some stuff, but he never, of course
just say like, yeah, we did that just didn't work.
I think it's easy to say, hey, we were doing Kang.
I suppose right, that's a Hogan level life. He'll don't
know whole Cogan notorious liar. He'll literally be like, yeah,
I wrestled this guy in Japan, that Cogan. You weren't
even Japan that year. Like, what are you talking about?
Like just say, hey, we were doing the craziest stuff.
We did ant man, we did low key and then
we're seeing where we're going. We thought, ah, the story
just wasn't what we hoped, and then the real life
situation happened and we thought, let's just go a different route.
He never actually says the word Jonathan Major's. He refers
to him as the Kang actor or Kang. He never
understood Jonathan Majors and any of these interviews pro he's
a pro.
Speaker 2: He is a pro.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, his proneus has made him
look dumb because so you're telling me if me and
Curricle are making ant Man and I don't believe this right,
But let's say I'm all for Kang and who knows
where I am. I'm giving Foggy whatever conversation starts and
Kirtlings my second command or he's Foggy regardless, and we're
just feeling, you know what. We've seen the cut of
ant Man, and which is weird because ant Man three
did not get reviewed well. But everybody was like, man Majors,
you know, take out all this stuff that happened. Real
world's up, just art. Everyone's like, Man Majors is fucking
awesome and we can't wait to see more of them.
Same thing with Loki in that finale, he was like,
man Major's delivered. So it's like, I find that hard
to believe that when he was getting praise us. But
that's okay. Fine. Let's say even then they saw his reports,
but are they Kang's not working. Two things. One, the
end credit of the movie is millions of Kangs together
on the planet. If you have any inkling in your
fucking gut, you're not gonna go with Kang. You'd be like,
you know what, one antacrats, Fine, let's just go to
that cause I think the other I think the two
Ana credits. Wasn't it like the thousands of Kanks? And
wasn't it low key back in time seeing Victor tis right? Yeah,
so just keep at that and say, hey, you know what,
I don't know about that, but they're already filming Loki
season two, right, so it's like, that's good enough set up.
He's give me in season two he can be like,
maybe a big dad, we can decide, let's keep the
Loki one in. That's fine. This one where it's showing
an army of Kangs, you know what, let's cut that.
We would have never known. It just would have been
a rumor. One end, multiple multiple m sumies only have
one credit scene. It would not have felt weird to
just some of them won't have any So what if
not felt any of all? We just thought, Okay, Kang's
back in Loki season two, and guess what. In Loki
season two they beat King and the end of the
story and you could go, oh, and then you can say, well,
we're doing Doom and this is the plan the whole time.
But the problem is you put the end credit in there.
And you know what the biggest problem is as well,
you released a whole slate and what was the first
Avengers movie called Kang Dynasty. It wasn't hey, we're doing
the Avengers, you know, Uh, let's just say it was
Avengers Secret Wars and Kings Villain. And then you could said,
you know what, we're writing the story and we just
felt Doomed work better here. You called the movie Kang Dynasty.
That's where for me, this was like, that's were some
of the white flag waving. I started to question some
of the other things he said, because it's like, there's
no way you're telling me before am and three you're
ever question Kang was gonna switch up? Like and that's fine,
switch it up, but don't just like just say like, yeah,
that real life stuff. Some of the story stuff. We
just wanted to pivot. We love Doctor Doom, we love Downy.
We thought let's go this way. It just that just
it feels like you're trying to be clear, you're trying
to out smartest, but we're all it feels like a
kid lie when it's like oh yeah, it was always
it's a yeah. I just the BS meter was through
the roof on this one when I read well we
were already think about getting rid of Kang?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, this was uh, this one got me chuckling.
It's funny. It was especially in the list of notes
you sent me, like just above, this was something else thought.
I was just like, yeah, okay, okay, tough doctor, Okay,
mister Kevin Foggy. And then he follows on with the
Kang was going to be replaced by Due even before
the Major's controversy.
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: As if for all the reasons that you just listed,
like you literally had your first Big Avengers title called
Kang Dynasty, Like, come on, don't don't bullshit a bullshitter,
Kevin Piggy, You're not winning that battle. I get it.
He kind of has to say that to I don't
even think he has to say that.
Speaker 4: Everybody understood the guy who knows what happened, But the
guy got at least a couple counts guilty of assaulting
a woman insulted when he was dating you could understand
why Disney the family brand might not want to go, well,
let's not do that.
Speaker 1: And granted this other people I bring up, people bring
up other people, but this was fresh. It's not like Brolin,
which you know, I feel eever you want to, but
Brolin had similar things in his past, but that was
like a decade plus ago, and then you can do
the whole wall I've changed and so that whether it's
true or not, for it to still be happening at
that time, it's very like they had an out. They
they out is there, you know, And I guess you
could say why didn't you recast? But then you could
have just said, hey, while that was happening, we were
talking about what are some other ideas, and someone had
a great pitch for Doom and we decided to go
that route. That's what you just say. You say, hey,
the Kank stuff we had was great, but someone pitched
something that was even better. And that's you go all like,
there's so many ways to say instead of like, well,
you know what, this was always the plan we were
thinking about, so like, same thing, let's say now that happens, right,
Let's say nothing happens with majors. He's just Doom. This
is a real story. He's acting his ass off, and
Kevin fig can come down behind the scenes like you
know what we should pitch him like it's just not
good enough? But what are we talking about? Like that's
it's just like like are you lying or is there
big trouble over there? Are you were you? Because let's
say that was a plan. You're really just gonna midway
through be like yeah, let's not do King Dynasty. Yeah
what like it you know, dumb or bullshitting? Which is it?
Speaker 2: I And like, you know, it's the type of Steven
that like it doesn't really change a lot, Like it's
not like by him saying this, like it changes my
height for Doom at all, Like like if anything still worried,
I feel like in his mind by pitching this, maybe
he's just putting more attention on Doom. And like, well,
if you thought Kang was good, it's kind of what
you said without actually saying what you said of like
you think Kang was good, Well we've got something even
better with with Downey and Doom. That's like best case
for him saying that. Maybe he's just trying to come
off as like super transparent to gain some respect in
that sense, because, as you've already listed multiple times, like
every like many things in this interview is very on
Kevin Figs, at least comparing it to the past. But yeah,
that that that one had me shake on my head
for sure. And yeah, as we've already kind of talked about,
it just seemed an unnecessary lie. It's like it's like
you're sneaking out with a friend or something. It's like,
get back, Oh, where were you guys out? Okay, It's like, oh,
and we were at the gas station with with Timmy.
It's like okay, you didn't ask, but what and then
you just keep going and going. It's like why are you?
Like what are you doing here? You're backing yourself and
do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is that Timmy's place. So I called Timmy's
parents and it's like, oh different Timmy, and it's like no, no,
just that why you're caught, you know, it's it just
like it makes it a bigger deal him saying that stuff.
You know. But I digress. But yeah, you preferred us
earlier where Yeah, they have a new seven year plan.
I don't know why the number, but I'm guessing that's
like seven years is twenty twenty eight, so I bet
that's like you know, Doomsday, Serial Wars and X Men,
and then like whatever the next era is. Foggy did
say he only has two years left on that contract,
so I still think he's gonna stick around. But I said,
like I said before, if there's some fatal errors, if
there's something like one of these Avengers movies is real
bad or something happens, maybe there's a change in the
guard I don't know. And then we did forget to
do this. Maddie asked, which I did. I tried and
I didn't have enough time, Maddy, so I thought we
talked about me and Kirkland, but he is something I'm
gonna rank. Hissby says top three choices to recast Captain
America and Iron Man. We will for sure. Don't worry.
We'll eventually do like a fantasy draft where we just
recast see the entire MCU. So that's coming in an
official form, but that's so gon me. We'll probably wait
till you know Doomsday's secret wartime. But yeah, well let
me hear some of your picks, because I I was
looking and I couldn't find It's tough, Like I think
Caps easier to recast because I think Chris Simmins is
a good actor, but there's better actors. I think Stark's
really tough because I think you don't want to you
gotta have someone with that charisma, but you also just
don't want to go a Downy clone because then they
just seem lesser than like I. I feel like they
got to make him a bit more darker. My only
pitch with iron Man was I would say you go younger,
because I would differentiate them a little bit than what
down he was, because he was like already like an
older hero. I'd say, you do young Tony Stark, you know,
late twenties, early thirties, and maybe CAP's the one that's
in his like fifty forties, because it doesn't matter. He's
a super soldier scener, right, so he can be fifty
but still be kicking ass. So but yeah, what are
these choices.
Speaker 7: You got, Kirk?
Speaker 2: I did say I had choices, but they're not eightier.
That's why I was there's a lot of news, but
I got a couple of fantasy realms, ones that will
never happen for different reasons, the first one being you're
talking about young Tony Stark, who better than Timothy Shallomey.
Come on, now, you know if he if he breaks
his code of actually going over to comic book films,
what a casting Come on, Paula Trades, says Tony Stark.
Speaker 1: You think he think that is young, that's got the
charisma I feel like in the star charisma.
Speaker 2: I think so. I think I think he's just he's
like water. He can just mold to anything that's true.
Speaker 1: And there's sometimes when he's on those colleges, I could see, Yeah,
I could see some of that. Yeah, it's not the worst. Okay,
I can walk with you.
Speaker 2: Not the best, not the best. Okay, We're we're staying
in the fantasy realm here. You know, this one's a
little bit more melancholy, you know, shuts up the great
powerful Eric Dane battling als. But in a different world,
Eric Dane as Tony Stark coming he could be both.
He could both actually shuts up Eric.
Speaker 1: You probably shuts of Eric Dane. You from up for
the suit like the Superman draft as well. Remember it's
like he should have played like and who did he
end up playing? Fucking multiple Man. You know, these guys
had a fucking a star hero right here and it
didn't happen, you know, So okay, I Eric Dane definitely
could have. I could see some fun there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, brought up Tonight in a different cast, but the
great Tom Cruise also was just on my list. Is
someone to throw there for Iron Man? That do you?
Speaker 6: To me?
Speaker 1: I think you get Tom Cruise in a multiverse situation
if you are Folks and recar and the MCU, you
can't throw that counter power.
Speaker 2: This is like, this is like we went to this
multiverse for an adventure, not necessarily. This is the whole
the whole new recasting.
Speaker 1: To me, if Figgy were to like get let Go,
then I would see some other executive be like, yeah,
let's get Tom. That's where something happens, and then like
Tom Cruise gets the power like the same way Rock
Out with Black at him. Like I could see something
like that where it's like, oh, we've we took a
step too far, we made some mistakes, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and the last one I'll throw for Iron
Man kind of just came to mind on a different
cast that we're doing. But Paul Mescal, let's go let's
get him in there. I feel like he's charismatic enough,
he's handsome. I don't like he talks very differently than
how a Robert Downey would talk, but I mean, yeah,
that's Robert Downey for you. So I feel like I
would need like an audition tape to really be sold
on it. But as of right now, I don't know,
just to just to throw a name in the hut. Yeah,
and then I initially wrote Aaron Eckhart here, but I honestly,
I'm like, man, I wanted more for for the Cap role.
Speaker 1: I think so he was he was my pick back
in the day. I don't know if the rumors were
that he Dark Knight back in the day. Is that
yeah after that, because but there were rumors he was
up for it. But I don't know if it was
just back then set rumors or if he was actually
in the realm let me see. But I that was
always my pick for Cap because to me, Cap when
I grew up and in my animated stuff, he always
like obviously caps always older because like you know, he's
a hundred years old, but I mean like I always
picture him like a little older.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: And the Aaron Eckhart was perfect. But I don't feel
like that was just a made up rumor or not.
Speaker 2: I feel like Cap doesn't really have like the boyish charm.
It's like man like, manly, you know, chisel jaw, like
he's looking like a masculine figure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm down for both of the Yeah, look
at some of these rumors back in two thousand and eight,
Matthew mcconney's Captain America rumor. In two thousand and eight,
Marvel wants Leo as Captain America has to be somewhere
and here Ryan Warner Brothers meeting for Ryan Gossamer Green Lantern. Okay,
maybe I will find the aaroneck Rt thing. Let's see
if I can find the hit me with some new
other ones while searching.
Speaker 2: For Captain America. Glenn Powell of course just that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have that too. It's an easy, easy one.
He just kind of breathes America right now, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give give Cap like a Texas accident. Let's go.
Also had Alan Richson, which is on another draft pick. Again,
just fucking manly man. I wrote down Chris Carmack. I
don't even know who the fuck this is. So I
wrote it down a while ago. Let's pull this guy.
Let's pull this gup. See what he looks like. I like,
I haven't even seen this guy anything. I don't know
why I picked him. Okay, I'm picking that guy the list,
Chris Carmack, You're gone.
Speaker 1: He didn't pass the smell test there.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's handsome, but.
Speaker 1: Who is Zach pen Oh this is a quote from
a writer in two thousand and so who wrote some stuff.
But man, just think about how far we come two
thousand and seven marvels Avengers movie with Ironman Hulk coming eventually,
Like that's a scoop back then. It's just like, man,
where we are in there. So yeah, I know, like
I said, we'll do more official fantasy draft in the
future and have some time to think about it, because
I that was a tough one man to throw just
on me to be like I like to, you know,
get some good ones and try and think about it.
But no one's like sprung the mind Kirkling. I had
some good picks there, but it's not like I feel
like a lot of X men. I'd be like, oh,
I can maybe like three people for gam but I
can aime you throw a f rogue cap and Tony,
I'm like, n, I don't use anything that. I'm like, oh,
this is the perfect one. And maybe it's somebody I
haven't seen yet, right, it could be someone in the
next few years. It's gonna pop.
Speaker 2: Up thing, you know, Like back before we had Downy,
you probably wouldn't have picked Downy as Tony Stark.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. After the Trulls Dan Stevens as iron Man.
I love Dan Stevens. That is a different it's a
different energy. Like I'm not opposed. I'd like to see
him read and be in the room. It's definitely different,
different energy. But like I said, I think you need
to do that with down and you don't want to
do start or with Tony. You don't want to do
Downy light because then right away people go, oh, this
guy sucks. We want the old guy back in DA
So Dan Stevens and badly as what.
Speaker 2: Tony definitely not cap Cap.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: I think they missed I'm not saying they missed the
band wagon, but I think unless there's an X men
I think Reid was. You know, I'm gonna wait to
hold it to Pedro. I think Pedro still I'm down.
I know a lot of people still poo poo on
the idea. I do think Penn was like a a
perfect casting for Reid, but I think Pedro can do.
Let's just do a quick let's see fancast. Let's do
a quick Google and just see what this is out
there right now, and the the Google images, because that's
always some fun stuff there, and then we'll move on
to the next thing. But madam, giving your questions sometime
laws of them are always like from the eighties, like
Harrison Ford as Tony fuck Man. I'll bring it up
that would have that would have had the gay young
Harrison before as Tony Stark. Let's go. I've seen this
a couple of times. Josh Hartnett as Tony Stark. I don't.
I'm more in the camp of Josh Hartnett for the
DCU Batman than I am for this. There's just something
about this that I don't It doesn't vibe with me.
What's your vibe test here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a no. Yeah, I don't know how to
explain it, just just to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jens and eccles, is that no, Like I Jens
Eckles is Batman. This no I don't think so. Matt Balmer.
I like Matt Balmer, but same thing. We missed the
man wagon. He should have been Superman in the JJ
Abrams movie and it didn't happen. These designs and Tom
Cruise as I'm in for Reynolds in the seventies. Oh
there you go. You threw out there Penn with his lips?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who else we got here? Anyone else? Current? Lots lots
of support for Matt Balmer. I did don't meme onmy
they have him as cap. I did think about Evans
for Tony.
Speaker 2: Evans.
Speaker 1: How's that?
Speaker 6: I'm with you?
Speaker 1: Or sorry Efron?
Speaker 2: Sorry Ephron Zach Efron as Tony.
Speaker 1: As Tony Yep, I don't see it, don't see it, okay.
Speaker 2: I just see him as like the neighbor. Is that
what it's called the neighbors?
Speaker 1: Neighbors?
Speaker 2: Yeah, neighbors or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, people really are obsessed with Tom Cruise. You know what,
I think this man do anything can happen?
Speaker 2: Farrell?
Speaker 6: You know what?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he'd be like a more unhinged Tony.
Speaker 1: He's forty nine. How old is Robert Downey?
Speaker 2: Just fifty something sixty?
Speaker 1: So he's got the ears on him. I I would
not be opposed to uh Colin Farrell as Tony Star.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always liked Calin Ferrell being younger, but seven Cycle
Paths banshees of Aaron Sharon Penguin. I'm so fucking excited
for Big Bull beautiful journey like he is. He's one
of those. He's gonna be like Leo where he's better.
He's like, you can say one gets better, but I
really think, like you, the back half of Colin's career
is way better than the beginning. Yes, absolutely, you know
what I'm not This was not bad either, Luke Evans,
he's a luck I like that. I can I'm buying
him with that one. Oh god, what's this danger something
about to pull? No, we're not doing X men. That's
a different time, Nathan Filly and get out of here.
These are not doing that. He's already got Gardner anything else.
Speaker 2: Who's who is that?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 8: This is like, oh god, baill, No, we're not doing that.
Uh anyone else?
Speaker 1: Good here? No, I think we've reached the good. That
was a flash though, Yeah, which, No, he's yeah, no kid, No,
I loved Revolta that he couldn't even done what about
this g L. He should have given that should have
been Yeah, it's all for doom. I'm like, is someone
pitching ro.
Speaker 2: Oh Man John Hamm as Tony? Absolutely yeah, I see
him like more as Tony than the guy in the suit,
but absolutely.
Speaker 1: But he's got a good voice though, right, he could
do that. So we'll go to cap and second at
Alexander Scars. He was someone that was for sure rumored
back in the day as well. I'm the opposite I
even though Northman he played that. He to me is
similar with Tarry Johnson, where I prefer him in weird stuff.
I feel like when he's the series just like Tarzan
lead or drama lead, it doesn't work. I think when
he's playing a loser character or a psychopath like the Northman,
or a weirdo in UH in Fidney Pool Like, I
think he's better as a weird guy. So same thing
as Aretatry Johnson. I like him better when he's uh,
when he's a weird guy. So let's see Captain. I
will go see Rogers just.
Speaker 2: To be Sarto Johnson as iron Man.
Speaker 1: No, not fucking echoes this, like we what was people's
obsession with fucking Jensen echo.
Speaker 2: There's people that are upset. What's that show? Super So
it's the supernatural fans I think coming out.
Speaker 1: I think he's like, fine, but what is this here?
Vender also Pedro as Yeah, look Chris Or that's Glen Pale,
clean shaven, definitely has that look. Patro, he could have.
Taylor definitely made this one though I just saw. I
don't know if you saw it there. Scott has like
Captain America, zero charisma, the Richardson's baby, Richardson's so tiny. Yeah,
he looked like he ate Richardson. More echos, Yeah, I
just because tents of people want echoes as Batman, and
I just I I can see him more as Captain
America than this. But Glenn pal Erto Johnson, who did this,
Harrison Forrest Captain America. That the Tony Pick, that's that's
a wired one. This one, no, not good is Captain America.
I'm not getting on any hammer. That's not happening big comeback,
stir not getting Kang when I got no, I don't Macway,
I don't see that. I think it's cap they happen
as a variant in this photo, but still like any caps,
like I don't know. I just I don't see that
they're not stopping on the rock when we're not getting there.
Speaker 2: It's like Chris Pine next time too, Chris Pine in
another world.
Speaker 1: Christmas for sure. Yeah, I think that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even Cap. I could see him as Cap also.
Speaker 1: Yeah I could. I definitely more prefer Chris Pine as
you know. Yeah, there's a lot of lets, so you
know what I'm gonna say is a copout. No name
you do for Cap or it's only Chris Evams who
has a name, but not a big one. But Superman,
Mike says, Jensen Enchles could have had a great career,
but Supernatural took all this time away. I always saw
him as a good daredevil.
Speaker 2: He must have got paid well though for Superman, like
ten seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I I like him. I just
feel like I've seen him have limitations, but dared I
wouldn't find Actually, no, Mike, I can't get with you
on that one. I think there's some emotional stuff. I
don't know if he could get to.
Speaker 2: But fifteen seasons, by the way, fifteen ninety three percent
run tomatoes. That's impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've only seen like the first two episodes.
Speaker 2: But okay, we do just to watch shows, but they'll
be seen seen a couple of episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take an abic. Not my bag, baby, sir,
he has twenty one. Let's take an a break. We'll
be right back. Why do we not have that draw?
We gotta get the awesome powers. It's not my bag baby,
We've quoted that for like two years. I won't go
watch as powers. Great scene, it's twenty beats your four. Okay,
let's quickly go. Let's do some of these seyeah tub Okay,
we've talked about Blade. Yeah, no, no, no, I move
some stuff a thing, don't don't worry. I'll do Blade now. Yeah.
Blade still in development now set in present day, is
written gonna be written by Eric Peterson or Pearson, who
wrote Thunderbolts and F four. But I think he has
a more shaky track record than that, because Mike did
ask of how do we feel about him writing?
Speaker 2: But first, this movie has a shaky track record already.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you've sworn have you made a
pizza bed yet? That it's not happening.
Speaker 2: They didn't take me. Nobody took me on the pizza
bet offer that I gave you.
Speaker 1: Still okay, So he's written, oh whoa, okay say it.
Speaker 2: You gotta say it.
Speaker 1: Other than okay, he branched out for a while. He
wrote nothing but Marvel's stuff, but then he wrote God'silvers
Cang and then Transformers one, which I've heard Transformers one
is really good. But on that he wrote Marvel one shot,
the Consult, the consult. A funny thing happened the way
that Thor's Hammer item forty seven one shot agent Carter
agent card of the TV show Thor, Ragnarok, Black Widow,
Oh my God, sorry, Black Widow, Thunderbolts, and uh and
then Austine will see in a couple hours or a
couple in forty eight hours Fantastic four. He wrote that, So, yeah,
I don't know the stuff I've seen Ragner, Rock Widow,
thunderbl I love Thunderbolt. So to me, it's like a
probably smart to get somebody that is at least in
the system. You want to get this script out. I'm
of two minds, so that I do like that fight.
I get what people say because Fai said, well, we
just didn't want to rush us out. We just didn't
want a guy in leather killing vampires. I think there's
tons of people that do just want that, and especially
when he got someone as fun as Marshallie, I think
you can just like I think people are actually fine
if it's just like a seven out of ten Marshall
Ley's kicking vampires ass. But at the same point, I
do understand marshall He's a two time Academy Award winner.
You could make the case he's the best actor in
the world currently alive, So I can make that case.
At the same time, I remember we tell this a
long time ago where there was rumors that they wrote
a script and Ali just wasn't happy with it and
he kind of wanted to be his black panther. I
think Blade, if that is true, those stories are true,
I think Blade might not be character. I don't know
if Blade. When we there's for example, when we're talking
about movies that can be important and can't tell a
story about mental health, racism, sexual rotation, I don't know
if Blade, if that's Blade's journey in the MSCU.
Speaker 6: But.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, how do you feel you feel the still
isn't happening, but Weiss is happening? Said in present day,
they got a new writer, they planned to do it.
Speaker 2: He also said, you know Kang was going to be
replaced by dude absolutely before and three, yeah, I mean
I'm gonna double down and just say yeah, no, something's
gonna happen, and just slipped the cracks. I feel less
you confident that in that boat these days, like if
you know, it was maybe definitely less than a year ago.
I think is when I was pitching, you know, somebody
pizza bet me. Because Blade has never happened, You're never
going to see in theaters. I think I'm a little
bit less so on that now. Maybe i'd be more hesitant.
I've also lost pizza bets now, so my my confidence
has been shooking. But in terms of yeah, like the
character stuff and the writing pairing and what you mentioned
of like what people want out of the Blades, like
I'd be lying if I said that's not what I
want out of my Like, I just want what we
got with with Oh my god, it's his name now,
Wesley Snipes's Blade just just just.
Speaker 1: It could only be there, bide.
Speaker 2: I fell in love with The Blade before I even
knew that it was a comic book. Character, Like I
just loved that movie. I definitely am not expecting this
Marvel Blade to be anything like that. Hopefully there's a
little bit of stuff in there, but that was also
just like an era when I was watching like Underworld,
and like all of those movies are like very similar, latex,
high octane music, sexy females, you know, and males. Yeah,
but yeah, I in terms of like a more emotional
story or sorry, an emotional character driven story, I mean,
I'll take it for sure. I get gripped in by
by great story writing around characters, but like, that's not
why I'm buying my ticket to to the ball. There's
something else I was gonna thrown there too, But like the.
Speaker 1: Writer, maybe that writer confidence written on some other uncredited
stuff too for Marvel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it.
Speaker 1: He's one of their guys clearly, so.
Speaker 2: It makes sense. Yeah, I don't think it would be
like like if I hear like mahersh Ali as Blade
and this is the writer, you know, I'm expecting maybe
a little bit more sauce on on I I'm not
going to spit out names on who I think would
be a better writer to replace him, But it just
seems like Okay, that that's that's a safe pick there,
and hopefully this at least gets the project made and
there's not like get a random writer comes in, does
something and then they just scrap the whole, the whole,
the whole script have to restart. Like it seems like
this guy will will be able to get something that
Marvel and team will be happy with.
Speaker 1: Is your is your pizza bet? Strictly just on the
soul film happening.
Speaker 2: I never said this is this is a pizza bet.
Now you're you're trying to get pizza out of me,
I said in our lifetime, maybe I didn't say that word.
But in the MCU, we're never seeing Marshall leaves blade
on on screen.
Speaker 1: Oh it was that extent in the second.
Speaker 2: But you're not doing you were hesitant, You were hesitant
changed the around.
Speaker 1: But I feel like now they'll still even throw them
in like a Midnight Suns or something like that.
Speaker 2: You know, is that a movie or a TV series?
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be. I don't think, oh that's
one thing in this article. Fuck you confirmed that going forward,
they're just that. He said, some years we could have
three movies. Some years we could have one movie. But
he did say we're all we're just gonna have one show,
and I think they really. I don't think a series. No,
I think Midnight Suns will be a movie and I
think that's where you could throw a blade in, So
I think it's still happening. I do think, like unfortunately
for me, that was like my most anticipated project. I
remember I was gonna make like a counter because I
was so excited to see Ali as Blade, but I
thank god I didn't. I'd be if I would have
held my breasts, I'd be dead. So I just like
wanted to see this so badly, and I still do
because Ali's great, but I just like, now it's to
the point it's I think I've used analogy before, but
I think we've all been there, and if you haven't been,
fuck you got like the ten inch swing dick or
just like the tightest pussy around. But like we've all
been there. It's like, where's he going with this? Like
when you're texting somebody and it's like that sent up
a date and it's like they we'll do this and
something comes up, and something comes up and you just
never know. Because I've had both situations where eventually the
date happens and you go, Okay, that person really was busy.
But the end of the time, it's like, oh this
person had second thoughts or they in my situation, Oh
you had a boyfriend the whole time. Cool, like you
never know what can happen. That's how this has felt
like where eventually yeah, well, once you're on like the
fifth or sixth time talking about a date for when
you're gonna meet up, it's like, I am I even
excited about this anymore, Like this is even actually happening.
So that's how I'm play talk.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, like if the person comes back to
my place, like to me, if the blade we happens
and we're sitting down theater watch together, that'll be like
the person come to your place, be like, oh fuck,
this is actually going down. But until that person sits
down the couch, it ain't over. And that's where we're
far from the couch with blade, you know. So, but
I think it's gonna happen one way or another. So
this classic absonalogy where it's just a very specific story.
It was no, there is this girl that was very
very good looking as a rebound. She worked at Dairy Queen,
and she was she was like, I felt very out
of my leak, and I was like that and I
had no I not that I have a game, but
I had no way because I don't like asking people
how to work. But I was like, I don't see
this person anywhere else and queen no. I worked at
the mall and they worked at Dairy Queen, and I
was like, I am anyway, and I just like I
have good conversation. And then when I just say, give
me your note, and then it worked out lots of
going back, going back, and then eventually the date did happen.
Nothing was really there, it was. It wasn't greatest and like.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just not just chemistry is the person
was I'll just.
Speaker 1: Say, very immature. And I was in that place. And
then but the push this old lady down the yeah,
she was in her seventies, and I was like fuck.
But then with me awkward later on as that person
was in another friends group of mine and she was
good friends with another person I was seeing, and I
think that kind of tanked. I think that kind of
tanked the thing I was seeing with the other girl.
So it was a whole thing. But I remember many
times rescheduling this date to the point of like, okay,
what's going on here? And I've been the other two
were rescheduled date and nothing happens. I said, that was
a situation too, where that I found out got a
number from somebody. Here's not specific one, got a number
here's a very so I know we're long, but I'm
gonna go through this way. I'm sitting here, get at
a number, having good conversation. Date keeps getting scheduled. One
day I get a text from somebody like, hey and
so So's boyfriend you texted Hummer again. I'm gonna rip
your head off. Yeah, I know, it was funny. I
went to this guy. I went to school this guy
for middle school to high school. No fucking chance he's
ripping my head off. But that's what he led with.
He and I didn't.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I'll say, because Kevin's in the chow.
It wasn't Kevin Davis much as like dude, Kevin like
you know me, like we literally were science partners together
in high school. Good guy, good enough, gotten you know,
he was just he knew he knew I was, but
he was still heated. And this was not scumbay tress.
Don't get me wrong. There's many times I knew so
a boyfriend, I may move. I had no idea this
girl's pretty looking. We had some fun chat here at
east Side Marios, gonna get the number. Yeah, So then
I got that, and then it was just like, yeah,
if you text my girlfriend, I'll rip your head off.
And I was like, and I'm like, who is this?
And then weird like he dropped like the full name,
like oh we went to school together. I was like, yeah,
you're talking to my girl. But then I found it
later on that she she The story was that I
knew she had a boyfriend, but this time I didn't.
So I legitimly just text this girl up a good time.
Then wake up one days Yeah, wake up to one
guy day threatening and I could never talk to her.
He's like, well, can I just talk to her to
find out the situation? She He's like, you know, He's
just I'm not getting her phone back until this is done.
It's like, which is also just weird. It didn't. It didn't.
It ended a few months later. Yeah, but I didn't
I didn't pursue that I I could have. I was like,
that's the red flag.
Speaker 2: What did he say when you saw him in person?
Because you must have never did okay to know?
Speaker 1: This was after after we graduated this so we went
to middle school, high school together. High school we were
science partners and like graduate, never thought of him ever
again till I see, bring your head off, this is
so and so and the en thing like not gonna happen.
I I think I literally I don't know was the
first thing I said, but I definitely him with the
l Well, that didn't help in that situation because it
was like I was like, dude, she didn't tell me boyfriend,
Like this is so like this is like a year
after schools like this is so small stuff, you know.
But yeah, like I said, I should want them to
do a whole dress told you on the whole everything
from two thousand and ten to twenty twelve. So I
met Emily, it was a whole Even when I met Emily,
big time drama because there was a friend of mine
that had no shot. Big friend was like always trying
to get me set him up. When he found we
were together. It was not good at best Buy it
was literally a civil war where you.
Speaker 2: Texted him, You're like, if you have anyl lady again,
I'm going to fucking head of oil. Yeah. It was a.
Speaker 1: Situation where before me and Emily like even got together,
she was just drinking. We were talking and had a
good time. She went to bet. I slept over her
place because it was late. I didn't pay for your caps.
She like, yeah, you can just hang on here. So sure.
But I got back to and then I slept over
here and he thought I did some stuff and this
one me and were just friends, Like no, no, no,
like nothing happened. He didn't believe me. Yeah, no one
believe no, one believes me. I don't know what it
is Kevin, Yeah, he wondered what it is. Yeah, but
then I did as I remember, we went to poker
and he didn't show up, and I said, and like,
why didn't you? Well, you know I didn't show up.
I'm like, you know what, I should just sucked her.
I should have done this. If he's gonna be mad, yeah, yeah,
and you know the rest is history. Uh, that's not
why I did, though, and me and Emily had some
great conversations. People appreciate Pixar, Ilio and Marl Steios Thunderolts
once it goes to Disney Plus, I think so, but
we'll make them want to pay for it. I don't know.
Let's see. Finally some quick retils off here. Talked about
Blade and we get some other questions here too that
will transition us into DC.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this. Ken Faggy said that they
have to stay away quote from Miles Routes until Spider
Versus is done. He also said that Spider Man Brand
New Day is a street level story. But he also
confirmed that when you talk about radar projects, which I
think I get what he's going for. But he's still
said Punisher will be tone different in Spider Man. But
he did confirm Punishers in there. So what do you
think about some of the Spider news. You know, he's
a Spidery guy, so.
Speaker 2: He Punisher will be totally different.
Speaker 1: Tonally, totally different, Okay.
Speaker 2: Totally yeah. I mean this is like one of the
main This is one of the things he said in
this this speech, this interview where I'm like, Okay, I
believe you. I I definitely thought Punisher was going to
be totally different than what we've been seeing him in
Daredevil and in his projects in the past, at least
since John Burnhal has been the Just yeah, carrying that
skull around, I doesn't really change much for my hype.
Like I'm I'm still super excited for this project, no
matter what happens.
Speaker 1: Street Level street Level, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: I thought we already kind of knew this, and.
Speaker 1: It's I remember there's rumors of street Level, then there's
rumors Multiverse and backstreet level. But again, to me, this
is like the secret warst thing where to me, unless
he's lying, if he's putting out there that hates street Level,
I'm gonna assume, Okay, that means we're getting a street
He even said that not every story should be a
world ender, which is like, yeah, especially Spider Man, Like
he can be in the world ender, but just like
he's so many great stories that aren't that it's about
his world ending, but not the world you.
Speaker 2: Know, hundred percent. Yeah, and those are my favorite Spidey stories.
Like I grew up watching those Saturday morning cartoons and
Spider Man was a big part of it. So I
I like Spider Man in the more like larger scale
team up galact of things. But like as you said,
like like he's a part of that team up, it's
not his journey of having to like like if if
it's to a scale, it's because his mysterios doing some
magic tricks and it's not what the eyes seeming it
to be. So I really like this news. I'm still
excited to see punishering him together, the tonally different Punisher,
but they're labeling out there. I already mentioned I wasn't
too surprised by that because I assume they would have
tone him back a little bit. Yeah, I'm still excited
for their their own screen chemistry. I mean, I get
that Odyssey teaser and I'm like, fucking John Bernthall and
Tom Holland let's go.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: For me, it's just always how much right. It's like
you just got to find the right balance where you
can't have him slim throats biting people's noses off.
Speaker 2: I get that hunt just like the way he talks though,
like like I think that can still be the same
and just motivations too.
Speaker 1: Just like that he wants to kill people. You just
don't want to show that. Make it more, you know
this time, make it do a you know, tell don't show.
But you can't show because a PG thirteen because again,
for me, the like what you're talking about, the speech
is how he talks. For me, John Berthnell's Punisher being
a Spider Man is not because like, yeah, I really
want to see Kim just split a guy's scold and
be like you like that, Peter, Like no, I want
like the same reason why he's great Daredevils. They have
a different ideology, right, That's the stuff is seeing you know,
Charlie Cox and John Berthne'll go back at it acting wise.
I want that with Holland and that's yeah, it's great
that he can be Punisher toting on Netflix and everything.
But I've said it before, like I'm happy for them
they didn't, but I would have been fun if you
could do a PG thirteen punisher, like I want him
to be brutal. Yes, I'm just saying because John Berthnall
is so good, I think he'd still bring that intensity. Right,
but let's see And then what do you think about Miles.
We're not gonna be seen him until Spider Verse is done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm not too surprised by this. It just
would seem weird if they're trying to like start a
new Miles story while that's already kind of going on,
especially like owned by Sony, So this being you know,
stated here, not too surprised by it. I'm curious because
I know Figy's just always thinking about things. I'm curious
like what his plan would be for Miles, and even
if that's just like spitballing ideas, but yeah, just curious.
How I did say curious a lot there, but yeah,
I don't know. It's another I didn't even say that time.
Come on, now, it's another one of those. It's like, okay, yeah,
kind of expected that to be the case, but uh yeah,
like Spider Verse, like it's coming to an end. It's
not like we have six more projects.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I think it's a very safe thing
to say, like, oh so stay away till it's done.
It's like, well, you guys have said that the next
movie is the last one, so very and I feel
that fits the timeline that you guys are doing Avengers.
I think even his druthers, it would literally be the
you know, Spider Man's Holme's gonna be done, hand off
to Miles, and then Miles you get a net trilogy
out of right, And I think that's a different situation.
It's unlike Sam, where Sam, I think people like that character,
but Miles has blown up as a character, whether it's
video games, movies, et cetera, where people have accepted that character. Right,
So yeah, it's gonna be interesting. And even then, like,
I think he can only say so much because I
still think they're doing that sort of deal where it's
like they're making this Spider Man movie and then Tom
Holmes on one or two Avengers, but then it's like
you gotta do a new contract. So it's like he
could be saying that, but they could just be done, right.
They could pull the shoot this time and just say, yeah,
we're happy we do with hall Ind But Sony wants
to down do their own thing again because they've said,
like you know, they've killed the Sony universe, right, that's
no longer happening. So it's like they might just go out,
let's just make our whole movies ourself. We'll go get
some people, we'll make Miles. They could do that, right.
They don't technically need Marvel to make the Inspiermn movie.
It helps, but maybe at a time where they don't
want to give Marvel a twenty thirty percent cut of
their money and they don't want to have to listen
to them. I really don't know, but then there's there's
been rumors this whole time they could have made Spider
guenem Miles and they didn't. So yeah, no, I mentioned
there two questions that assuming, but I think we won't
re answer them, but just in case, may SA's does
Blade being set in present day make you more or
less excited? And then I might you say, want to
pigback makes question does Eric make you more exciting? Like
I said, so, yeah, we answered the Eric pierceone. I
think we're kind of like for me to ask me
after F four because I feel like that's more of
a deal breaker and present they are.
Speaker 6: Not.
Speaker 1: I guess right that was the original because they revealed
this too, that they actually summed the cost from the
original Blade movie. We're used in Sinners because them. So
that's that's cool.
Speaker 2: But I remember meming about that in the discord.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like to me, that's like, maybe that's why it's
a tough question, Maddie, because we did get just recently
a vampire movie back in the past, so it's just like,
well I got that so blake and be in present day.
So I don't think it does anything to go up
or down. I think I'm pretty neutral on I just
want a fucking movie that's halfway decent and let Ali
just just go, you know, let him rip, because I
I love Wesleys and Nights, but I think Ali could
match him or best him.
Speaker 2: I think it was a higher ceiling for sure, and
like the floor is on par like, I don't see
it being worse by any means with the setting. I
think it gets me a little bit more excited just
because of what you said with Sinners, Like we just
got the vampire movie in the past, so just recency there.
I'm okay with it being more in the modern and
I mean Blade, the Wesley Snipes Blade, like that was
modern when I when I saw it back in the
back in the nineties. And then in terms of the writer,
I think it doesn't really change my excitement. But like
maybe if there's some crazy what's the word I'm looking
for it's getting laid here, but just a more wild writer,
maybe that would get me more excited. The potential, the potential. Yeah,
But then that's also it could flow or it could
uh not be so successful because this is like the
safer pick. It's like, Okay, it's not.
Speaker 1: Super exciting, but we want to get this movie out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so somewhere in the middle there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's it for the Marvel stuff. So we'll take
an ad break and they'll be right back with the
DC stuff. Will be right back and we're back. So
James Gounn gave this interview on Friday, So just some updates,
gonna round them up. I think, yeah, I get all
the Marvel stuff there. Oh well, actually I'll answer this
question uh first from Magic or Mike, because this can
kind of transition us if I if you had to
guess five years from now, do you think Marvel will
still be on top worll DCU take the top spot
in reverse of how things were a decade ago. Because
I don't really have this anywhere I can put this
in this know as far as Superman had a fifty
three drop off for the second week, so very good,
that's where you want to be. I think it's like
the fifth best DC one. So again, very it made
like sixty million, it's already at four hundred million, so
it looks like five hundred million is a lock. It's
a question of if you can get to six hundred
and pass that. But really really good hold domestically. Obviously,
they got f Wor coming out this weekend, which is
a very crossover audience, so we'll see what happens in
the remaining weeks and uh, yeah, there's another edition that's
going to add there. But yeah, it's been it's been
interesting to watch it because it's been having good numbers,
but it's weird where the first weekend I just compare
it to like The Batman, because that's a more recently
big one. The Batman beat it, and then during the
weekday Superman and I think, like every Day beat the
Batman's numbers, but then the weekend, same thing. The Batman's
a little better second weekend, so it's I thought the
director was going But even then, it had the biggest
Tuesday of twenty twenty five, had the biggest Wednesday of
twenty twenty five, had the biggest non holiday Monday of
twenty twenty five. So it's been doing good. It's just
the problem is still the international numbers are not super high,
and that's kind of the that's kind of the anchor
on it right now.
Speaker 2: So well, it's like summertime too, So do they like
Mattineze like during the week Tuesday Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are like the cheap days in America. We
just get Tuesday, but they got those days. So but yeah,
so it's having a really good hold. So we talked
about last week, So now it's gonna be how to
do after the same week as AT four and then
the week after F four. But really good hold, that
is what they want. I think it's a good foundation.
But that's the big debate is obviously my gast this question,
and I'm thinking for bringing up was we talked about
this that DC's not won since two thousand and eight,
so I think it kind of combines that there there
is a chance they could beat F four. F four
is tracking good right now, but we'll have to see
and will be better. So I think it's gonna be
very close with that F four and DC or with Superman.
But yeah, where do you feel in five years from assa, Well,
that's two thousand and thirty, two and thirty, who's the
top dog? As Marvel made a comeback with the New
Era and the six one seven, or is DC running
game with the DCU now the fresh bowled new toy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know. I think the ball is
in the hands of the gunners over in the DC realm.
I just think, like, great start with Superman. Uh, maybe
there's some fatigue on the Marvel side of what's been
going on there, But again transporting us to the future
five years, I think like, as long as they have
the same quality of what like I can only judge
the one Superman project, but like, if it's to that level,
I think that's not the easiest comparison to makes like
that is a massive movie. You know, James gun himself
was the man creating that one, but fifteen mil yeah,
well deserved. He worked his ass off. I don't know
much Jennifer Holland God for that for fifteen fifteen. Yeah.
So I like, like, unless the next project is like
a big hit on the hype scale, I think it's
gonna be in DC's hands just because they're already going
to be like well on their way and then in
that like we're gonna be pretty early on with the
new relabeling or new era. I guess six point seven
of the Marble side. It's so so tough to say though,
because I feel like one string of like bad movies
can just really alter the perception of and just hype
which happened already you right, yeah, yeah, exactly, like.
Speaker 1: String of shows and movie like maybe not in a row,
but there was enough of them that I think people
are like, yeah, not.
Speaker 2: As good as you know, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So I.
Speaker 2: It's tough. I never want to you know, better against
five gee, but uh, I think I'm gonna go DC.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Marvel. I think, yeah, I think
if you ask me in ten years, that's a bit trickier.
And DC. I think in ten years DC will be there.
I think the problem with Marvel and the good thing
for them is they have a lot of history, so
they always have just like they did this time, like
I get a downy jail free card, like they always
have people like, same thing. If they have Hugh Jackman
stick around or even five years from now. Let's say
they don't, and I don't believe this, right, but let's
say for some reason Deadpool's not in any Secret Wars dooms.
Let's just say they go, oh you know what, it's
too jokey. We want this to be serious. It just
is not working. We can't do it here. You tell
me they announce all Deadpool four in two thousand whatever,
you know, twenty nine, twenty eight. It's gonna make money.
And that's the problem. Where with the dc you can't
do that yet, if you don't get me wrong, I
think one day, if the DCU is successful, you could
be a situation where oh yeah, Henry Cow's back as Superman,
like a Toad Maguire thing, right, But you can't do
that yet. And I even think, like the next five
years is still too quick. So I've said this before,
so I'm just repeating. So I apologize for you know,
old time listeners, but new listeners. The Marvel has a
chance to make people, maybe not entirely fall in love
with them, but you know, and this is this is
not a specific before s Pubs hits me, this is
not a specific scenario. But I'm just saying, like, if
you were in a relationship and let's say you got
cheated on and you get back to together with that person,
they give you all these reasons, they're perfect. That'd be
Marvel's Spider Man Doom say, and Cecaret Wars where they
gotta be great, where it's like, you know what, they
stepped out for a little bit, but they came back
and they're good. Where to me, if you get back
with that person Marvel and they cheat again, meaning like
one of those three big movies suck, then you're like,
you know what probably done with this scenario. And that's
the thing where I'm saying that Marvel will still be
on top because I don't think they're gonna let Spider
Man dooms their Secret Wars be Rise of Skywalker bad.
In my opinion, I don't think they'll let that happen.
I think smaller projects, the TV shows some other stuff
that's different, but the top tier brands, if that happens,
then then you could make a case that Figgy maybe
needs to swap out and you need some new fresh
blood in there, because that's like you can't stumble those.
And I'm not saying it has even be as good
as Infinny War Endgame, but I don't think it can
be any less than like Age of Ultron, you know,
like you gotta be I think you gotta be above
that bar. So I think they will hit on that
and they will recover. And like I said, you got
Doomsday next year, Secret Wars a year after you got
X Men. That's three years already, and then the next
two years after you got new stuff of X Men's
a hit, boom. If F four is a big hit,
you got a sequel in there. So I think they
still have some heavy hitters to play with. Where DC
is still gonna be establishing their stuff. They're still getting
their first Wonder Woman, Like we're not gonna get Wonder
Woman at least till twenty twenty seven, and that's two
years from now, right, Like that's the earliest. So that's
where it's like they're still in the early days. But
ten years from now, I could see DC taking it.
Speaker 2: So why I go DC? And even though it is earlier,
on to your point, like I'm still just thinking back
to like when we got Wonder Woman and like her origin,
like that was a billion dollar movie, and then we
got Aquaman his origin that was a billion dollar movie.
Also like wonder.
Speaker 1: I'll stop you there. You've said this odd many casts
or the Woman is not a billion dollar movie. I've
always meant to tell you what this say that again
when I've listened to casts, and you say that wonder
and because sometimes you've been my cast with Dylan who
doesn't know, like, yeah, true, wonder Woman is not a
billion dollar movie. The only billion dollar he's say, the
only billion dollar movie the DCU was Aquaman. It's that
Joker and the Two Dark Knights.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you I will probably say Wonder Woman was
a billion dollar movie. You will at some point in
the future it.
Speaker 1: Was a massive hit. I'm going but you've said that
many times, and my mom can finally.
Speaker 2: Wonder Woman was a billion dollar movie. That's what I
got to start saying. Man, they come out hot, so
I'm I'm hoping the same sometimes. Yeah, then I never
watched it. But when you're talking about Marvel hot has
has heavy hitters that they can always pull from. Of
course I just googled Terrence Howard because I had to,
because why wouldn't I. And I had this realization. She said,
you know, Marvel has heavy hitters in the in the
week I always pull from. Why did you he's he's
my heavy hitter. Did you know that Terrence Howard was
buried four times to three different women, so he married
the same woman twice. They were married from nineteen eighty
nine to two thousand and three, divorce, and then married
again two thousand and five, two thousand and seven, like
they gave it a shot both times, but shuts out
to Terrence Howard and his crazy uh ideals or whatever
he's got going on, moving.
Speaker 9: On, shut the fuck.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 1: We're already long enough, we haven't gotten the DC fortune.
Speaker 2: And you're like me, sh already looking up. You went
on like your fucking life store, Like twenty minutes ago,
you told me about like three different relationships. I don't
even hear about this.
Speaker 1: Kirkling every time, Trasher, some of those personally. So Jay's
talking about Batman. So we're gonna we got two cutouts here.
We're we're gonna go half not even half an hour,
twenty minutes Batman updates. Uh, he said that, he did confirm.
So it's kind of a twofer because we talked about, uh,
the Superman fall up. Superman will be in it. It
will be Superman's story. It's unexpected, but it's not per
se a Superman two. And he did confirm that's not
World's Finest. So because we kind of talked about before,
he's like a Batman Superman team if that's not happening,
which I think is good because that's way too similar
to Man of Steel to BBS thinks it's good even
if they're not fighting. He did say, which I loved this,
that Brave in the Bull will probably won't release the
same year as The Batman. I love that. He said probably, uh,
and then he said the Batman two. Scripped his head
in the right direction, and then and that interviewer asked him,
if you want one ad director to direct in DCU,
who you want to He pauses for a bit, and
you know, Matt Reason and if he's all you realize
you no, no in the DCU. Now, I'm just saying
this because it's you know, it's more for fun, because
Maggie did ask me the discord how much I believe it.
I do think the Batman two is. I think that's happening.
We're good. I've always said Batman three, that's a different story.
I love all the memes of it's just doakes from
Dexter and it's like, I know James Gun's fucking line
all this Batman thing, but I can't prove it. And
it's just like Man not a specific light situation. But
just like, does this sure feel like a guy that
you if you're at work and like, oh, I really
love Matt. I really I'd like to go. I'd like
to date Matt. And Matt doesn't know it, but everyone
else at work knows it. And James Gunn's that guy.
That's what this feels like all the time. He brings up.
In another interviews, he talks about how Matt Reeves makes
some poppy stuff that's like just like is better than
everybody else. And don't get me wrong, these things that
James Gunns saying is true. Matt Reeves is a top
to your director, Like I think he like The Batman
there that's in its own shradsphere with Dark Knight and
Logan the First Joker, where it's like that's a different
tier combook movie. But it's just like even then, like oh,
who would you wan on the DCO Matt Reeves and
I just I feel like it's like it's like if
Passing and Matt Reeves aren't in the DCU, they are,
but like they don't even know it yet. I don't.
I still think what my theory here is because the
weird thing is Brainville. They talk about it, but they
don't talk about any Muschetti, they don't talk about the
writer on that, they don't talk about specifics about the movie,
just yeah it's happening. I still feel like what Gun
is hoping that he's gonna say all this side stuff.
Lat Matt make Batman two and he's read the script,
So I bet in that script nothing and I bet
you nothing says anywise why it couldn't be connected to
the DCU. And I think after that, once Matt's gone
through a press tour James Gunn and work with him,
and James Gun's been his boss per se, and he's like,
you know what, this is great experience, and I like
James Gunn, you know what, maybe we could do that.
That's why I just wonder if he's just like gun is,
just hoping that he might change his mind, and I
I just it's just like, you know again, he always clarifies,
and I know people always bring up, oh, you can't
do this, they said Batman has a son. Guess what
if fucking Kevin fight can be like you know what,
we're changing king uh Before ant Man three, Jay's gonna
just like you know what, we actually talked out we
don't need Batman have a son yet. We're just gonna
go this route for now and he'll get a son eventually.
Like people act like these people owe us anything or
what they say is like inked in fucking stone. They
could change on a dime on a dime, They just
like you know what. Nah, Like Matt Reeves came to
and said, I want to be in DCU and we're good.
Like people just say oh. They always said people things
change all the time. Gun said things that change all
the time. So I like that the Batman two's head
in the right direction. That's great. I like I said,
I think it's a great idea that no matter what,
I don't think Superman two should have a Batman because
you have too many BBS comparisons of his sequel features Batman.
I don't know what that say. I'm excited to hear
what Superman two is or the movie with Superman when
he says unexpected, I really have no ideas. I've seen
theories and nothing that I've jumped out. I was like, oh,
that's the one I know people have thrown out, like
the Superman Supergirl team up, But like, I think that's
also too soon, as well too, like that just feels
like that's down the line. What do you mean, oh, Superman,
a Peacemaker team up in a movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the big central character that's gonna be.
Is that what you're talking about? The central character?
Speaker 1: No, imagine if it's Rob Paston's Batman. He's like, oh, yeah,
you've seen them before. You know, bat Rees doesn't even
know yet, but no, so, uh yeah, those are the
Batman updates. HOCHMANI film right now, you get you never
get mentioned Superman, Mike hundred so I just said to you,
had all these interviews and they asked with a Batman.
He says the words brave and bold, and he says
the Batman two and Matt Reeves, but he never talks
about the guy that announced the direct Brave and Bold.
Super Mike says one hundred percent guarantee.
Speaker 2: Any still not so Footman, and.
Speaker 1: He directed it chapter one. In chapter two, he directed
The Flash. I don't know if you recall this. The
same opening night of the Flash, they announced that he
would be directing Brandon the Bolt.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, now remember that in this whole.
Speaker 1: Press tour, he's not once talked about Mache doing that movie.
He's talking about Reeves Doom Batman, and you would think
you would think that the guy who's doing your Batman
for your universe in the DCU, the guy who's gonna
partner with Cornswan stroking him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever and he aint can Yeah he ain't. That's sus.
That's like, you know, he always wants Matt Reeves, but
he's settled for Andy. And he just keeps talking about
how he's a silver medal and how he just wishes
he had made.
Speaker 1: Before Kirka goes, that's one hundred percent that analogy is true,
kirk what he said about the white situation. But and
Mike is one hundred percent true here. And he's not
sent on that set unless he brought his jacket there.
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing I get the most out of
this whole spiel about Batman is like Batman two. Okay,
we're I that unicorn. I feel like it might be real.
I feel like I'm chasing Moby Dick and I got my.
Speaker 1: It's funny. Not long I've been waiting for this. Who
am I about to make our name for myself hereh I.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't even have a good video to play,
but like when Faggi's talking about Blade and I'm like,
come on, man, like, don't play me, don't fucking bullshit
a bullshitter. But then I hear, you know, James Gunn
talking about Batman too, and I'm all the videos you
just played.
Speaker 1: So just as sure as a rock is covered in
chills already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh fuck yeah yeah, And then I don't know,
just the the tip toeing around the names, I don't know.
I don't get a lot out.
Speaker 1: Of that, fortunately scuttle, but you know nothing, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think James gun more so than
Figgy for sure, Like he's he's a good like the
conductor of of like like like when he's doing interviews,
I feel like he's like he has like a strategy
of like, hey, how I'm gonna pizzazz. It's like when
I'm telling my thoughts on something and I'm just throwing
some some ridiculous words just get some some fancy reactions
out of people. I feel like he has that somewhat
so like tiptoe around the Matt Reeves name. I think
he gets a kick out of that. And yeah, I
don't know, care's what Matt Reeves thinks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to have you never seen how
quickly just quickly bring it up? Have you ever seen the.
Speaker 2: Click in that video when he's like interesting, No not
not no.
Speaker 1: Not a definitely ask him about like mister right, no, yeah,
some for interviewer, They're like, how would you like, mister Freeze?
Speaker 2: How do we not have that as a video?
Speaker 1: Drug about to find out?
Speaker 2: Video?
Speaker 1: About to find out what this setup is? Because yeah,
it's just like mister Freeze in your movies, like if
you did this, like iry were kind of oh interesting,
he's trying to fucking oh my god, hang on here,
I'm gonna get it. I don't have to set up
for who asked and what the origin of it is.
But like I have the I had the clip of
when he was like recently asked hay On. This is
him recently being asked in the DCU and Batman being there.
He's just such a deer in the head lights.
Speaker 7: And I tell you it's like a no change for
a Batman Part two. Yeah, you want the script to
be in a good place, of course. So are you
happy with the progress you're making and the release date
you have?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, this year we're gonna be shooting and I'm very
excited about it. You know, it's taken longer than I
would have wanted, but also I'm super excited about what
we're doing, So I really can't wait to share that
with everybody.
Speaker 7: House off I has have been to figure out your
main villain. There have been a lot of rumors lately.
I've heard her Freeze as a potential villain. Answer anybody
by now you've determined who the bad guy is, Yes,
of course we'd really be in trouble.
Speaker 9: Is it going to be surprising? So the audience helps him?
Speaker 6: The story is a continuation in a certain way and
completely different in another, and it's going to show different
sides of Rob. I mean, I think it's gonna be
really exciting.
Speaker 7: I spoke to James Gunn recently and I asked him,
you know, Oxy, he talked about, you know, letting you
do your Reeves verse on the phone, and I could
ask him, have you contemplated recently integrating Rob into the DCU,
And he read they talked about it, but you talked
about it?
Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: What's your attitude about that at this point?
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it really comes down to whether
or not it makes sense, And you know, I think
what's been great is it was really a kind of
a story that I wanted to tell, you know, revoling
the epic crime soog and all of that, which is
what you've plus to me to be able.
Speaker 9: To play that out.
Speaker 6: And you know, James and Peter have been really really
great about that, and they're letting us do that, and
you know what the future brings. I can't really tell you.
I have no idea right now except that my head
is down now about getting the Batman Part two shooting
and to make it something really really special, which.
Speaker 9: Of course is the most important.
Speaker 1: He was confident, Oh to you Batman.
Speaker 9: No, I don't know. You know, we'll have to see
where that goes. Oxy the release date change for Batman. Yeah,
you want the script? Of course.
Speaker 2: It's a short talk so fast it almost seems like
the whole interview is like sped up, but like, oh
here we go here, Anon.
Speaker 1: I was at what a wildcast.
Speaker 6: James and Peter have been really really great about that,
and they're letting us do that, and you know what
the future brings.
Speaker 9: I can't really tell you.
Speaker 6: I have no idea right now except that my head
is down now about getting the Batman Part two shooting
and to make it something really really special.
Speaker 9: Which of course is the most important thing.
Speaker 7: And if they decide like we really want Rob to
be r DCU Batman, I don't know, you know, we'll
have to see where that goes.
Speaker 9: Start off.
Speaker 1: You know what that smelled like, you know what that ends?
Speaker 3: Just having fun man making movies, big adventure, having a
great time.
Speaker 2: I was gonna click it. I was gonna click. It's
like a speed version of that, like he's talking so fast,
but like the actual substance of the word just.
Speaker 3: Having fun, man making movies, big adventure.
Speaker 1: Got He's so specific, like, yeah, it's gonna challenge allsing
me this like and if they do decide like yeah,
the future man, I don't really know right now.
Speaker 2: I don't really.
Speaker 1: That's where it's like, well we're fucked. They've definitely I
just thought they bring it up every time. So all right,
our last few notes here, Okay, this last at break
for your back, Okay, last notes quick fire off here
for d CU updates here, Where is it? Okay, blah
blah blah. The Jimmy Olsen Show apparently is something that
is going down, not official sources, but just more people
reporting it. The plots and office right now is reportably
a crime anthology show centered on various DC villains. Sergeant
Rock is apparently still happening, but get going to be
getting a new director. So Luca guad is out, who
did Challengers and almost good movies. Uh, the authority this
is paraphrasing, but the authorities currently off the slate they did.
He said it's been a rough production, and he did
either he was or he almost slipped up when they
The same guy I was talking about, Reeves was interviewing
James Gun and he's well the writer. When he's talking
about authority, he almost said I and then he switched
to the writer, so he we don't know if he's
controlling or if he kind of actually revealed he was
the one work on Thority and just couldn't crack it.
And then what else he did confirm and double he's
like triple quad down that the miner suppose the Jeyl
controversy in Spider or on Inspider Man and Superman is
not gonna be wreckoned. It's gonna stay that way. So
if anyone's mad about the whole harem and all that stuff.
It's sticky too. We'll see if anything comes of it
in the other movies. And then finally today it was
announced that and James ben conferred this that Anna Aguera
is writing the script for One Woman. She wrote Supergirl
and is currently writing the Teen Titans movie script as well.
It is interesting because she seems to almost be like
Aaron Pearson, where she is their people, but other than
a few she was an actress, then she became writer.
Other than like a few TV shows, she's not had
the like a massive big movie released or anything. So
it's like, could be good, you're getting a new writer fresh.
Not many people have used her. I'm sure that's good
on their budget too. At the same time, man for them,
I hope Supergirl hits because the super Girl doesn't hit
and they go well. She's also writing Wonder Woman the
Teen Titan movies. That makes a lot of people, I think,
very on edge. But what do you think about some
of the stuff the Wonder Woman's script. So that's again
last week we're that was being fast tracked. James Gunn
of course, you know he loves to clarify as well.
It's not being a fast tracked, but like he's like,
it's like the next project, but it's like script's going
anything about Thorty, Jimmy Olsen and the Superman chorrel stuff. Kirkland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with the writer on a Nogira, that's
a lot of like big movies that like, man, they
they better be good, like all of them, not just
one hit really well and then the other two can
be sleepers. Like those are big, Like Teen Titans is
probably the lesser of them, but like I don't know,
I also have some nostalgia for Teen Titans back in
the day. But like to me, I'm like, that should
be a big movie, Like it's the team ensemble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a Robin in there, which to me is
a big deal.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure, So fuck for our hope and
for her. I I definitely am hoping nothing but the best,
Yeah for sure, which is a project I'm ever excited for.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The old poster they released last week for Supergirl,
whoa what was it? Was like the Superman logo And
remember their takeline was like look up, it's or something
and it's his lookout, So I think that's good.
Speaker 2: It was it spray paint on her hands? Or is
it blood.
Speaker 1: I think it was infer to be spray paint, but
it looked like blood. So no, it was great to
give them the hawk girl, you know, the mask on situation.
Speaker 2: Mass days on. Yeah, I super high for that.
Speaker 1: What was I gonna say, ay, Sergeant Rock in limbo?
Speaker 2: What was the authority?
Speaker 1: Very boys? This type of thing? Remember it was like
that where there's like a Batman and Superman but they're
like gay lovers and they're together. But it's like the Boys,
but more in the DC world.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, I have zero attachment to that. Although
what you just laid out sound intriguing, Sergeant Rock, I
really don't know what, Like, is that gonna be like
a comedy type thing? I guess this it's comic book stuff,
so there's comedy elements to all of it. But do
you have history of Sergeant Rock? I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't care. So here's the situation where like I'm
not saying I'm worried about the clay Face movie, but
the more here, but I go, I don't love that,
but at least it's like, well it's clay Face Batman.
I love that world. Sergeant Rock, like I already don't
want World War movies. I'm over it and like, for
to me, like a DC character movie just feels like
a weird fit. At least Clay Flace, you're kind of
like putting the universe out a bit. I did like
some of the plot synopsis. It sounded very Idiana Jones
ish Sergeant Rock so that was fun. But yeah, I uh,
I don't care about that. And the Authority could be good.
But at the same point, it's like that, so says
the the NATS. Interesting clip is my reaction to the authority.
All right, next newscast, we'll get that one and we'll
get the awesome Powis clips in there. Aby akiss, Good morning,
handsome gentlemen. Good morning. It's late for us. Kirkl's worried
about the shift starting soon, but don't worry. We're ending
right here. Kirkling the Authority, Like, I don't think it's
a terrible idea, but the problem is we've seen like that.
It like there's echoes of the boys, and I think
we've seen a lot of parroting or the like here's
the dirty, messed up superheroes. There's been a lot of
that right now, and I feel like it was just
the timing. I remember when they announced the Authority, everyone
was just like, oh, so the Boys, And I think
that's the problem of Boys is ending this year, so
let it end. Give some time. But they also got
spinoffs too, They got gen Z and they're doing the
other other Boys spin off. So I don't know. And
even in the Superman world, it's like, I don't know
if right now we need the whole Like, hey, Superman's
all about being hopeful, me and a good person, and
here's the universe where we're fucking heroes. I don't care
about people or whatever it is. I've never read the Authority,
so it just seems like they're more hard edged heroes.
I don't know if you need that right now. And
I think even then, do that after Batman, I would
love it if most this world's pretty bright, colorful and hopeful.
Not clear face of course, because it's like a villain movie, right,
But like even Supergirl, I'm not saying because she looks
like she's gonna be a problem child, I'm not saying
she has to be super hopeful, but just the way
of like Superman's all about being kinds of new punk rock.
I want when we meet Batman and be like that's
fucking lame, grow up kid like like and I want
to be like big brother, like you're an idiot. Like
the world's like, world's dark and it's fucked up. My
parents are murdered in front of me by this fucking boozer.
You know, I hate my butler because he's always given
me bad advice. Like I that's why I think we
should wait, because when we meet Batman, that's like that
juxaposition of Oh, this guy he's not like us. Like
even on Justine, there's many times he's like, I'm not
on the team. Even if he's on the fucking poster,
He's like, I'm not part of the just League. I'm
not one of you guys. So that's why the authority,
I think, could wait, Like let Batman have the being
that first, like, fuck, all you guys are there, you know,
bright costumes, even though he might be sitting there with
the like blue tidy whities and stuff. But so yeah,
you can find them both not happening to be honest.
Speaker 2: If it's really with in terms of or in relation
to the authority just being so similar to the boys,
maybe that was the issue he was writing It's like,
holy fun, this is the Boys. It's been done, this
has been done. Yeah, And I'm saying he because I'm
I'm buying in that theory that it was James Gunn
was the him or Matt Reeves one that two yeah,
or Joss.
Speaker 1: Joss or Ana Gurera another one. Oh god, hopefully an
idea of starting rock should be having glorious Bastard's vibe. Yeah,
I could see that, and like, like before to Colin
Farrell was attached that and Daniel Craig like. But the
other thing for me, the selling point was Luca being
the director. Luca's not the director anymore. I'm very much
out on that. I was, you know, love Challengers, loved that.
After the Hunt movie looks good, there's another one of his.
I really Oh Queer was really good. So yeah, and
then the last two h Zuperman and then Jimmy Olsen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy Olsen reportedly a crime anthology centered on various
DC villains. I like it interesting, Oh it's Jimmy Olsen show.
But like I like the setup of the villains, But like,
what's Jimmy Olsen gonna do? Is he gonna be?
Speaker 1: I think be profiling. Yeah, I think he'd be profiling
them and it's a way to get yeah, probably, and
that's how he gets information. And he's fucking death stroke
and he's fucking Dark Sign and all this stuff. I
don't know, but I think it would be like he's
working on dossier reports of like a profile of like
everything you need to about. I feel like it sounds
like Creature Commandos in a way where it's like here's
a group of villains and then you get each episodes
in origin. But this would be instead of the whole
mission to be like Jimmy Olsen Reports, which like there's
some stuff that could be fun. But again, early on,
it's like this feels like maybe wait on this. To me,
I would if I was Ashot, like wait on this.
This this to me feels like a gun, like, oh
I got this great. And I'm not saying don't get
me wrong, Jameson has greatd but like it's a gun
Creature Commandos weirder type of thing, especially the way he
took Jimmy with the whole Lady stuff, Like this feels
like this is a gun, like it's in his brain
and he wants to get it out. It's like, I
don't know if I want to see it yet.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think I'm very neutral on the
setup of this show. Like I think they need to
sell me on being interested on this. I'm not gonna say,
you know, I'm not gonna watch it by any means.
Maybe I need some some trailer or whatever, but definitely
something to sell me on it. Because I didn't love
Jimmy Olsen in the movie. Like if I would have
loved him, you know, if this was like Kara. That's
her name, right, yeah, Carra.
Speaker 1: You know what I call her?
Speaker 2: Kara? Oh yeah, no, no it is.
Speaker 1: To me, it's Carr. But I've heard people say care
it's a Tomatoes Tomorrows, But to me it's it's car.
Speaker 2: It's more like Kryptonian. If you say Kara, I feel, yeah,
it's like Kara versus DC Villains. Fuck yeah, I'm there
day one. But Jimmy ole expensive mid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing. I think most people, whether
it's like I had issues with the his like the
man stuff, and then like just him being a misogynistic
and then like tons of people just didn't find funny.
I haven't met anyone. I know they're out there but
me personally in the podcast sphere or in our life
sphere that like, oh I love Jimials. I think it
most be like, yeah, I could have done without that,
or it just didn't really work. Like even if they
didn't extremely dislike it, he's like that's all right, Like
and that's where it's like a show on this guy. Again,
I think it's a gun thing. The big thing is though,
in a comic book. If you didn't know this, that's
actually was dark Sight's debut appearance was in a Jimmy
Olson comic book. So lots of people think they would
do that, and I think that's the only way because
I even this, I was like, we didn't cover Iron Heard.
I'm like, well they did a Jimmy Wilson show. That's
when I don't know if we need to cover I
don't know the rains will be there. That's something where
they would get people in is if every you are
introducing a new big villain. I'm not saying Aspy dark Side,
but if it is even like a death stroke or
even like a fucking Harley quit, like, that's how you
could get people aboard and stuff. So yeah, and then lastly,
how you feeling.
Speaker 2: The controversy care him for life. I mean, I feel
like we've already talked multiple times today about how people
say things in interviews and then plans change change, So like, yeah,
I would never put chips down on like well he
said it. So I'm gonna bet my life that that
is the case. I think easily there could just be
like a part two video to this. I mean, I'm
also famously one person that's like last of us. You know,
maybe the cure wouldn't have actually worked, Like even when
you have the creator of the show saying that that's
not the case, I'm still making up my own head
cannons wherever I go.
Speaker 1: That's what I do.
Speaker 2: Isn't that right?
Speaker 1: Haw?
Speaker 2: Brother? This is me at the end of this two
hour double cat.
Speaker 1: You played the longest Clint.
Speaker 2: There is longer. It's a madhouse. It's a mad house.
Speaker 1: That's also in the message message that Court Durrell said, yeah,
I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean all that decide. If I'm just
sticking to what he's saying here, I don't love it.
Patroon Clay made a good point of like, you know,
it's it's an unpopular opinion, maybe for like jor El's
to just be talking about his Trumps spamming her.
Speaker 1: Comments with political red.
Speaker 2: I don't even say what he said. I'm just like,
you know, I really agreed with what he did.
Speaker 1: He was like, he's like, I don't think women should
run for president. We couldn't believe what was coming on.
Cock took lay For people that don't know what he
actually said is fuck brock. No. Also just wanted to
throw in my two cents about draw cons first week.
Glad Gun is red comming. I thought it was weird,
but I'm glad a creator is able stick with his
choice instead of betting any of people who have no
idea how hard he worked to make the movie. I
have my issues with Gun, but also he really cares
and doesn't like Uh, it doesn't feel like nearly as
much as a corporate stooges as many other people in
similar positions and companies. And that's why I agree with
you too. Where it's like, yeah, if it's hold that,
because I just don't want that. If it was a
story where he's like, hey, I'm gonna do this and
then I'm gonna reveal it, I don't want switch to
be like like last Jedi like, what do you mean
raised nobody? What do you mean raise nobody? Like don't
do that stuff. So that's why I've always been like
he made the choice do it, and I agree with
them where it's like in the movie's Hell, It's it's done.
I know people are kind of obsessed with Kara, like
if she knows or not, and for me, it's just
like I might explain it, but not everybody. I use
me steal fully enough. For example, is that planet was
filled with like, you know, thousands of millions of people
and it was Zodd and two other people are like,
we should fucking terror for on Earth. They're like a
zero point one percent the thought that. So what if
like everyone's like, yeah, we're gonna send Kala, there's one
part like yeah great, and Jill's like if yeah, fuck them,
you should take over Earth? They go ahead, go And
if Kara's just like, oh yah, I never know who
that like, same thing doesn't like Kara's parents and Clark's
parents didn't have to get or you know, Kali Ele's
parents have to get along. So what if Kara's parents
are like, no, if you land on Earth, like you
should take care of the people. You should, you know,
raise them up and everything, and what if Durrell's like
now fuck them? Like what was like invincible style? Right,
So I really don't have a problem, and I also
don't have a problem I think ever bringing up again,
like I don't think it's a it's not a sticking
point with me, but I get it for some people
it is a sticking point. I've seen lots of people
bring that up, but it's never been a sticking point too,
because it's just like people that you know, oh my god, Jorel,
he's a bad guy. Now it's like, yeah, okay, go
read the fucking fifty other versions Jeorrelle, like, go pick one.
Then you know there's so many out there, Go watch
the Reeve one. That's like you gotta do something, you
know different. Even though it was like for me, I
think it's just like we talked about, the review that's
been done quite a bit lately, didn't hit for me
the same way because it's like, oh, even people I
don't watch Dragon ball Z, but I guess that's a
thing in Dragon Ball Z when the characters had like
a different.
Speaker 2: Meaning what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: And we'll continue, We'll go somewhere else, don't worry, and you're.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm for like, if he's on the road, sleep broadcast,
I'll keep going for an hour.
Speaker 1: Are you sleep there?
Speaker 2: Just you know, well, we still got to do what
we've been watching. You know that's gonna be funy minutes.
Speaker 1: Full season reveal squid Grain.
Speaker 2: Three for the Jorelle thing, Oh man, I actually lost
my train of thought. I had it before you gave
me the one. Oh no, That's what I say. Is
the conflict that Clark had with like hearing that that
was something that I actually didn't love in the movie,
was like how much that was weighing on him because
it's like, dude, like you grew up here, you have
different parents that literally raised you. Like who cares what
these fucking holograms are saying to you? So that was
kind of my position in the movie, so to be
having a problem with what Jorel's saying, like I don't
really care, And as you said, like, I'm totally fine
if we just never even mentioned that again. I imagine
Kara and him will have a discussion about that, because
clearly it affected Clark so much in the film but
I don't know if they will.
Speaker 1: By the time to see each other. She could go
going on like she's gonna go on another planet. Let's
say she lands in fucking dark Side?
Speaker 2: Or how much time do you think's gonna happen between
when we see her? But spoiling the whole movie right now?
Speaker 1: But they released a photo there's whatever you know fabulous photos,
Like do you mean the next set in between movies
or the next time Clark and hers each other?
Speaker 2: Is I think not the one and the same.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if sup Man's gonna be in
that movie. He might be, but like okay, like I
think you can literally in Canna maybe like two three
years for to see each other. And it's like you
might not have time same thing where she comes back
to Earth because Earth's being fucked over? Is he gonna
be like in the middle of fighting darks and be
like what happened to my parents? Like at that point
after I hope after two or three years, maybe they're
chilling back. He's like, hey, you don't tell you about
the message, But I hope he's just not like I
need to talk because like I don't look at her.
I don't think she's gonna have the answers he's wanting, like,
that's whatever care problem Karra or car fuck? I used
to car now we talked about now my mind got
mendel efect. But I think she's got her own shit
going on. So absolutely well, Ajaman, Uh, here's the third
part of James Gunn interview. Uh he talks about his dog.
Speaker 2: We're gonna play the whole interview and that.
Speaker 1: Is this PS is not all right? Thanks Joe, We'll
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Mike says Off told gun authority was two woke most lightly.
I agree that could be it too. He's trying to
crack the script and he's like his ass gonna hate this.
But end of weekly Geek. We'll back. We'll back later
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