WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:06.080 Ripped up. 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:07.759 News. 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:13.519 You need advice so you don't happen. You'll come running 4 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:18.320 just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna help come. 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.640 Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. 6 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:27.760 No Tom Martino, Hello, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the 7 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.960 show as we kick off a beautiful fall week in 8 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.960 Colorado and around the country. Of course you're joining me 9 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:38.399 probably on one of those. Of course, we have our 10 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:43.439 wonderful audiences on our flagship station KHOW, and that we 11 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:47.079 have our affiliate in Colorado Springs, Cardio. We also have 12 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.799 wonderful people around the country on the iHeart iHeart app 13 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:54.439 and YouTube and my YouTube warns. And then I'm gonna 14 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:57.479 bring up John Fuller. Now, John, look pretty? John, is 15 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.960 you're looking good? I'm hoping John can hear John. I 16 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.880 don't see you were acting, but in any cases, Hee 17 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:08.079 up on the access John Fuller Fuller Law, and he 18 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.680 is with us and he will be acting as our 19 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.519 expert today for personal injury and all of that. I'm 20 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:16.599 gonna take him off camera until he knows we're on. 21 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:20.040 So somehow he's not hearing me. So three oh three 22 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:22.400 seven one three talks seven one three eight two five 23 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:23.359 five Hey. 24 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:25.799 Dragon or Shannon, is he on Access today? 25 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:29.319 We did not know he would appear that way, so 26 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:30.359 we did not show up. 27 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:31.799 Do you know what's that? 28 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.959 Well, we did not know he was joining us via Access. 29 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:37.480 Do you know what's what he's going to be on? 30 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.400 No? I actually don't. I thought that was all worked out. 31 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:41.959 I'm really sorry. But you know what I can do. 32 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.079 I can probably bring up his audio on this during 33 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:46.959 a break, So I'll just do that three oh three 34 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.400 seven one three talks seven one three two five five 35 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.040 if I think I can take him with uh? 36 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:53.000 With you? 37 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:56.319 Do have him? Okay? Good? Good, good good? 38 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.359 And then I'll bring him with in a mid morning. Okay, 39 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:00.640 let me let me bring you up here. 40 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.599 I'm sorry I had you and I saw you picking 41 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:06.040 your nose and doing whatever else you were doing. 42 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:07.079 What John? 43 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:08.479 You're looking good, bro? 44 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.280 And now I want to talk about something that's been 45 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:16.919 on my mind because so many people call me. And 46 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:19.919 I had a friend call you over the weekend. She 47 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.919 was shocked you answered your phone. She called your regular number. 48 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.199 It was about her daughter. You probably would call it Auntie. 49 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:33.560 So what happens when people don't know? Now they anticipated 50 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:37.000 a problem because she's smart she's not looking for trouble, 51 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:40.919 but her daughter was rammed rear ended, and there's no 52 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.479 immediate problem. 53 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.800 But she wanted to talk to you. Is that stupid? Smart? 54 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.199 What do you do? In other words, you don't have 55 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:51.599 an immediate problem, but you just got rammed, but thirty 56 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:53.599 miles an hour and the last thing you want to 57 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:55.639 do is have something show up a week later and 58 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:56.840 you haven't made any prep. 59 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:58.680 So what do you do in a case like that? 60 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:02.800 John, Well, sometimes you have a problem and you don't 61 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.879 even know you have a problem. So that was the 62 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.120 situation with this young lady, is that she had just 63 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.960 been in an accident. She didn't go to the er. 64 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:13.840 She wasn't sure if she needed medical care or treatment. 65 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.439 Her car was jacked up, it could still be driving 66 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:20.759 or driven. You know, she just didn't know kind of 67 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:25.000 what the next steps were, yes, exactly in scripting out 68 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.879 a plan of where to go, what to do, what 69 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:28.719 are the next steps? 70 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:30.360 Who you know? Who are you going to talk to? 71 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.039 All of these things that people just don't know when 72 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.639 they get in an accident. And you know, I do 73 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.439 this every day, but most people don't. And so so. 74 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:41.080 What do you do? 75 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:44.479 I mean, in other words, if you don't have anything 76 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:46.800 going on right that minute, what do you do. 77 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:50.960 As a victim of a crash. 78 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.840 Yeah, you don't have an immediate pain, but you know 79 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:57.560 you've been hit. You're not looking, like I said, I 80 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.199 always say this, you're not looking for trouble, but you 81 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.919 know you've just been hit thirty miles an hour from 82 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:03.360 the band. 83 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:05.479 Yeah. 84 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.319 Well listen, if you're hit thirty miles an hour from 85 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.840 the back, the chances of you walking away and thinking, Wow, 86 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:15.840 there's nothing wrong with me whatsoever, is very very slim. 87 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.120 And in this particular case, the young lady was banged 88 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.480 up pretty good, and you know, she just wasn't sure 89 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.720 if she needed to go from work that day to 90 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.279 seek medical care or if it was something she could 91 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:30.839 get an appointment in a few days and go get 92 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.879 checked out. And I helped her understand that, Look, the 93 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.600 most important thing for your health is to go and 94 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:39.240 get checked out, because you just don't know what the 95 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.000 impact of the accident might have been. 96 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:43.079 And you're always better getting checked out. 97 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:48.040 But number two, that you know, this is a you know, 98 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.839 you just cracked the surface of a whole. 99 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.160 You know, this this thing. 100 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:56.959 That you're going to go through and there's going to 101 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.439 be different sets of eyes on what you do from 102 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.399 this day for and so you know, in my business, 103 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.199 I know that if you delay going to the doctor, 104 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.000 you know, let's face it, somebody that has kaiser right now. 105 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.079 If you call and say, hey, I need a new appointment. 106 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.319 I was just in a car accident and I'd like 107 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.240 to see my doctor. Well they're scheduling things four and 108 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.120 five and six weeks out for first appointments, right, and 109 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:21.759 that is fatal for your crash. 110 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:22.879 I mean it's fatal. 111 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.600 You're going to be accused of either not being hurt entirely, 112 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.720 lingering and waiting around to go and get checked out, 113 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:34.079 or any number of other things that couldn't be further 114 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:38.279 from the truth. I don't that's just not okay in 115 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:41.439 my book. If you're hurt, we either need to get 116 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:45.199 you to an emergency room or an urgent care or 117 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.160 something along those lines to get you checked out today 118 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:51.480 so that we know if there's anything that truly is 119 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.720 an emergency, and if not, then we at least know 120 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:56.680 how to script out the rest of your care and 121 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:58.240 make decisions along those lines. 122 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:00.680 John Fuller, Now we're going to go to the phone 123 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.600 because This looks pretty serious. John, you'll be up, so 124 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:09.279 don't pick your nose and we'll talk. We'll talk to Jennifer. Jennifer. 125 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:19.920 This sounds pretty serious. What's happening, Jennifer, Guys, help me 126 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:20.279 out here. 127 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:22.319 Well, we can only help so much. 128 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:28.240 Okay, So she's not there, all right, we'll check on her. Okay, 129 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.000 check on that line. She was going to talk about 130 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:31.839 sexual assault. 131 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:32.920 Let me explain something. 132 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.360 Sexual assault, sexual harassment. They are different things. They are 133 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:43.160 injuries of sort, but in general, John, what kind of 134 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.319 damages do people seek when they've. 135 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.160 Been We're getting a lot of somebody else's on this line. 136 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.279 Tom on the hmm. 137 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:53.480 Okay, I don't hear anything. 138 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:55.560 I don't know why that would be on your access 139 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:01.040 if you're getting audio, John, I really don't know why 140 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:05.160 that's happening. Seriously, So you're you're hearing other voices? 141 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:07.519 John, Oh, I think I know what it is. 142 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.199 Hold on, Okay, it might be your YouTube or something, 143 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.120 or it might be something else you have feeding through. 144 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:16.439 Anyway, we have Jennifer about it. Okay, you're all right, John, 145 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:17.439 We'll take Jennifer. 146 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:18.160 Okay, got it. 147 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:22.319 Jennifer. Hi, Jennifer, what's going on? This sounds sounds pretty serious. 148 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.639 Now let me explain something. I mean, not that it matters, 149 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.759 I mean it's it's important. Though you mentioned or the 150 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.879 call screener says assault, and there's a difference between assault 151 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.240 and harassment, A fine a fine line. 152 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:36.000 Was this an actual full out assault? 153 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:42.240 It was? Wow? Okay, now without for the beginning here 154 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.240 giving names and companies, tell us what happened? 155 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:51.680 So it so there's two different occasions, yes, or I 156 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:54.120 guess there's two different days. So the first is this 157 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:55.680 customer came on to my. 158 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:57.720 To my work. 159 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.040 It was just a normal interactions and what kind. 160 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.879 Of without like I said, in general, what kind of work? 161 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.240 Was it a walk in store retail or what. 162 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:10.920 Kind of like that? 163 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:15.959 So I sell like automobiles. 164 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.360 But it was out Yeah, all right, So customer walked walked, 165 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.199 walked in and what happened? 166 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.040 Yes, it took him out, showed him some of our items. 167 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.199 He was kind of very. 168 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:30.560 Cocky, I would say, just. 169 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:32.720 His eyes. 170 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:33.240 He bought it. 171 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.919 He knew better than I did. So he left for 172 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.480 the day, came back the next day. I was in 173 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:42.600 the store with my manager. We were counting cash, and 174 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:46.559 then I told him that he would have to wait 175 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.000 or he could go out with my other assistant manager 176 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:53.000 to go find whatever he wanted. And he's like, no, 177 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:57.639 I'm you know I want you. So it became this fixing. 178 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.080 So he waited for thirty minutes almost for me to 179 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.399 get done counting this cash, and then we went out 180 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.519 on a lot, started looking at what we wanted to 181 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.279 look at, and then it kind of just got progressively 182 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:12.600 more uncomfortable. 183 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:15.200 He was like rubbing, Now you were showing let' taye 184 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.720 so Jennifer. So he comes up, he's waiting for you. 185 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.559 Then you walk you and him, you're walking out on 186 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.360 the lot, yes, sir, okay? 187 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:30.600 Then what and then as we're as I'm showing him 188 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:36.879 the items, he starts getting more pushy, I guess, telling 189 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:37.519 me and like. 190 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:40.759 Again like what kind of stuff was he And I'm 191 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.639 not trying to be you know, weird here, I'm just 192 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.159 trying to find out, like you were uncomfortable, clearly did 193 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:48.919 he touch you? 194 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:50.279 He did? 195 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.080 And so at first he put his arm around me, 196 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:55.559 almost like a friend thing, put his arm around my shoulder, 197 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:58.840 and then it got to the point where he was 198 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.759 like telling me to bend down like almost like doo 199 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.639 squats for him. Why And then on. 200 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:06.639 Our way back wait, wait, when he put his arm 201 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:10.000 around you, did he say, hey, I Hey, Jennifer, thank 202 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.720 you so much that I really appreciate the information. Or 203 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:14.440 was it just like just touching you. 204 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:16.440 It was just touching me. 205 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.440 And was his arm like around your shoulder, parder around 206 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.200 your waist at. 207 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.039 This point it was just my shoulder like okay. 208 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:25.919 And was it one hand on his shoulder. 209 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:29.360 Was it one hand on his shoulder or was he 210 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:32.679 wrapping his arm up around your back on your other shoulder? 211 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.039 It was like up around like wrapping his arm around 212 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:38.159 my back, on my shoulder. 213 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:40.720 And did you say anything at that point? 214 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:42.159 I didn't. 215 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:45.159 I kind of just kind of it was like scooting 216 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:46.919 away from him, okay. 217 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.200 And then and then so did you as you were 218 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.440 scooting away? Did his arm come off your shoulder or 219 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:55.440 did he follow you with his arm? 220 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.000 He stayed where he was, his arm came off my shoulder. 221 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:03.360 And then the making our way back inside. 222 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.960 Then okay, and then okay, got it, So you scowed 223 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:10.679 it away. I wanted to moved away from him, and 224 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:14.639 then I'm making notes here, okay. So then then then 225 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:19.360 you were you started going back to the office. 226 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.159 Yes, And as we were walking back into the office, 227 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.720 he was walking behind me and then came up by 228 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.679 like behind me and was rubbing my shoulders as we're 229 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:32.960 walking inside. 230 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.639 Then when did he say, can you do squats for me? 231 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:38.799 So he was doing that at the trailer. He did 232 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:43.720 it numerous times, but it wasn't like he wasn't so 233 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.120 he didn't physically tell me to do squats yet that 234 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:47.360 was inside. 235 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.440 Okay, So when you got inside, how to go ahead? Sorry? 236 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:54.480 So he was just asking me like how much he 237 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:56.399 can put in? So I'll just say I was I 238 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:02.200 sell trailers, so cargo trailers dumping. So on these trailers 239 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.799 there are ven numbers and how much they weigh, how 240 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.320 much you can put in to them. So he kept 241 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:10.679 asking me to bend down and tell me like what 242 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.440 it is, but he already knew because he was telling 243 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:14.679 me that. 244 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:16.039 Did he actually say. 245 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.360 He didn't say, look at the cargo tag and tell 246 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.519 me what it can hold. Or did he say can 247 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:24.759 you bend down and tell me or can you bend over? 248 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.000 No, he said look at how much? Does this one way? 249 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:29.440 Yeah? 250 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.840 But but not like I'm trying to get a sense here. 251 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:36.720 But he didn't like say Hey, Jennifer, can you bend 252 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.200 over and see and read that tag for me or 253 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:45.879 or squat or any did he. 254 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:46.240 It would be how much does this one way? How 255 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.320 much does this one how can help? 256 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.639 Okay, but you took that to mean he wanted you 257 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:53.679 to bend over or squat. 258 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.200 For the way that his tone was and then the 259 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:58.480 way that the day kept going. 260 00:12:58.519 --> 00:12:59.919 Absolutely okay. 261 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:00.679 I want you to hold on. 262 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.759 You didn't think anything of it until it kept going, 263 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:04.840 so yeah. 264 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:07.080 So far it's pretty disgusting, but not assault. 265 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:07.919 But hold on. 266 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.519 And then we have our personal injury attorney, John Fuller 267 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:12.480 on as well. 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Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O 293 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.279 three seven one three talk seven one three eight two 294 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:38.039 five five. 295 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.120 So we're hearing a very interesting story. 296 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.039 I'm going to bring up John Fuller again here and 297 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:47.919 he's with us, and we're here. Here's the thing. Yeah, 298 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.799 it doesn't sound good, that's for damn sure. We have 299 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.360 a woman who works on a lot selling trailers and 300 00:14:55.399 --> 00:15:00.399 a guy came in put his arm around her. That's weird, Okay, 301 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.879 Now she could have said. And again a lot of 302 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.559 people say you should say and make it clear, and 303 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.200 I don't think women should have to, but they you say, 304 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.639 by the way, I prefer. 305 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.320 You not touch me. That's unwelcomed. 306 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:24.279 Again, there can be harassment, and obviously there's assault without 307 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:30.159 making a proclamation, but that's always best. Now, you went inside, 308 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.039 but on the way, he was asking you to can 309 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:34.919 you look and see what this weighs in that ways? 310 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:37.279 And he was She kind of got the impression he 311 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.879 wanted her to bend down or bend over. So when 312 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:43.279 does the assault take place, Jennifer. We're not trying to 313 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.399 be tilating here, We're trying to truly discern what is 314 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:46.879 going on. 315 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.000 So when you got into the office, what happened? 316 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.759 So, first of all, that was more of it. So 317 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:58.320 when we got into the office, I actually my manager 318 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:03.399 told my told this customer that it was lunchtime, so 319 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:05.519 he had to come back because it was like a 320 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:11.120 mandatory lunch. He got upset about it, but he left. 321 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.039 At this point though I told my manager that I 322 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.440 felt super uncomfortable with him. This was all on camera 323 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:23.000 in our lobby. Two other employees so heard it, So 324 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:27.240 a total three employees heard the fact that I felt 325 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:35.440 uncomfortable around this person. He left where I left, went 326 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:41.759 to lunch, came back, and he came back for his 327 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:47.600 amployment at two. At this point in time, I start 328 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:53.399 helping him, and all three male employees leave the office 329 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:56.399 and I'm left alone with this person after I've already 330 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.240 told my manager that I didn't feel comfortable, because my 331 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.720 manager even said, okay, well, we'll make sure that you're 332 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.839 not left alone, and then they left me alone with him. 333 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:09.160 By the way, physical contact, I'm looking this up of 334 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:13.880 any non consensual nature. It doesn't have to be you know, 335 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:18.519 in delicate or unseen places or genitals or anything. Just 336 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.519 touching could be considered a form of assault. John, did 337 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:21.920 you know that? 338 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:23.559 Yep? 339 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:29.400 Yeah, wow, Okay, So what happened then, Jennifer, Well, so now. 340 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.440 We're in my office doing paperwork and he gets to 341 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:37.119 the point where he's at one point he is telling 342 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.519 me to I'm doing his paper work. We're going over 343 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:43.720 the invoice, trying to get everything that he wants on 344 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:44.680 this trailer done. 345 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:47.039 We're talking about, by the way, when he came back 346 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:49.960 and the boss was leaving and you were going to 347 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.799 be alone, could did you mention, Hey, I don't feel 348 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.319 I'm private leader, your boss. 349 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:56.240 I don't feel comfortable being alone with this guy. 350 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.480 I didn't. And the only reason I say so I 351 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:06.440 and I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I am a victim 352 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:15.720 of past sexual bold and childhood trauma. So I'm very meek. 353 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.359 When it came comes to it, I was scared. I 354 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.200 didn't know how and I'm not going to be a 355 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:23.519 shame to say it. I didn't know how to say no. 356 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:25.279 I didn't know how to stout my life. 357 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:26.640 I understand what you're saying. 358 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:30.440 You were so uncomfortable from past experiences that you just 359 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:31.920 didn't want to bring attention to it. 360 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:33.480 And that's more of. 361 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:33.920 What it was. 362 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:39.079 And on top of it, my childhood trauma. The thing 363 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:42.079 with this is this person his name was the same 364 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:45.119 person of my childhood trauma. It was it was a 365 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.240 It brought everything back, which sounds horrible. I mean, I 366 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:50.160 don't mean to like so. 367 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.880 But when he came back, did he do anything to you? 368 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:54.000 When he came back to the. 369 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:55.559 Office, that's when. 370 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.039 So this is when it actually everything really happened. So 371 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:02.119 when he came to the offic this the first one 372 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:04.480 was we were talking about the spare tire, and he 373 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:06.480 basically this is when he told me that I can 374 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:08.440 come over to his house and do squats to pay 375 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:09.359 off the spare tire. 376 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:12.240 Wait wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, Okay, hold on, hold on now, 377 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:14.880 now what do you mean by that? So, so, what 378 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:16.720 do you mean spare tire? And what do you mean 379 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:18.400 pay it off? And all that tell me what you're 380 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:19.000 talking about. 381 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:23.160 So the spare tire for his trailer, I want to say, 382 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.039 was close to four hundred and I think it's four 383 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:29.319 hundred and sixty five dollars. 384 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.279 So you said, if you order this trailer, a spare 385 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.559 is going to cost you an extra four hundred bucks. 386 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.680 Yeah, So here's trailers on our lot and to add 387 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.599 the tire on. So as we're looking at the invoice, 388 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:43.799 all I do is I have to just take this 389 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.200 stuff off of his invoice. 390 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:49.480 Is this a trailer that he's buying from you that 391 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:50.279 was on your lot? 392 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.279 Yes, it's a dump trailer that was on our lot. 393 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:58.279 Okay, were and he did not he did not want. 394 00:19:57.960 --> 00:19:59.920 The spare or he wanted a spare. 395 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:03.359 He didn't want to pay for this spare. So he 396 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.799 told me that if so Basically, if he's going to 397 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.160 pay for the spare, then the way that it was 398 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:11.359 going to be paid off is by me coming over 399 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:12.200 to his house to do. 400 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:14.279 The only way I'm going to pay for that spare 401 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.119 is if you come to my house and do what. 402 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.440 Squats and other things. 403 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:22.680 Wow. 404 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:27.240 Yeah, that's disgusting. I'd be pissed off. So you should 405 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.160 have just said, sir, I think you should leave. 406 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:30.319 But what happened. 407 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:32.599 I wanted to, but I mentally I can do it. 408 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:33.799 Okay, Okay, I got it. 409 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:36.799 There's one point where he does grab my wrists and 410 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:39.200 he says, to f and do it? 411 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:42.079 Whoa whoa, whoa whoa, to wait wait to e f 412 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:42.720 and do it? 413 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:43.559 Do what? 414 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.039 So to hurry up and get his paperwork done because 415 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:50.000 in his eyes now it's just taking too long. 416 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:54.680 Geez, did you start feelings? 417 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:58.319 He grabbed a like hard, like like or or like. 418 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:03.559 Gentle It was gentle like and and he so he. 419 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.200 Gently puts his hand on on your wrist and says, 420 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:08.119 just effing do it. 421 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.559 Yeah what? 422 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:12.599 Okay? 423 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.759 So I finished his paperwork, We get everything, and at 424 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:21.319 this point I'm just feeling more uncomfortable. So I tell him, 425 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.960 let's go see if your trailer is ready. So we 426 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:29.880 walk outside, walk towards his trailer. His trailer is all 427 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:31.960 the way in the back, not all the way in 428 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:36.039 the back, but like midyard in the back. So all 429 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:39.920 of my guys are in like our PDI area with 430 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:44.200 the cameras show them, but it doesn't show where I'm at. 431 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.200 So did you did your office have a camera at 432 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.839 all or any recording equipment? 433 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:54.559 So the office does, but it doesn't show. So and 434 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.400 that's one of my biggest problems that I'm having right 435 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:01.519 now is my corporate office did not release all of 436 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:03.119 the camera footage. 437 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.400 Well, okay, are they thinking you're overreacting? I mean, what's 438 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.200 what's your gut feeling? Are they thinking you're overreacting? 439 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:14.920 I think my feeling is they are just protecting themselves. 440 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:17.079 Okay, I want you to hold on. I want to 441 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:23.519 get John Fuller's perspective on this, and that that's that's strange. 442 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.240 I mean, it is and I'm not sure how. 443 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.920 To take it. It's I mean, it's obviously unwelcomed and wrong. 444 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.519 I don't think anyone has to be told don't say 445 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:37.799 that to me. When he says, hey, if I'm going 446 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:39.759 to get the spait tired. The only way I'm getting 447 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:41.720 that is you've come over to my house and do 448 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.359 squats and other things that that that's just I mean, 449 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:50.680 that's off base. It is it's it's off base, even 450 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:52.039 for a presidential candidate. 451 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.119 Hold on a second, I'm. 452 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:58.039 Just kidding around. I shouldn't kid Actually, I'm sorry about that. 453 00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:01.559 Really I shouldn't kid about this. Let's let's talk about 454 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:05.480 this though. Hold on, I'm Tom Martino three three seven 455 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:09.920 one three talk is our number and eight eight eight 456 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.720 heating dot com speaking of the cold coming. 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And John, 475 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.200 what I'd like to know is you've heard this story. 476 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.799 Put on your hat as a prosecutor or not, you know, 477 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.400 as somebody who sues people and and you may not 478 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.680 handle a sexual assault, personal injuries and stuff like that, 479 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.480 but you're still have the legal mind and handle these 480 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.039 things every day. So what is your take on what 481 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:41.880 she has told us? And for those listening, you can 482 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:43.960 go back and listen to the feed, But what. 483 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:45.000 Do you take on this? 484 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:45.359 John? 485 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.119 Did it go beyond what we've heard so far? 486 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:52.519 Well, don't you think? 487 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:53.000 Okay? 488 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.400 Oh wait, she said yes. But I want to ask 489 00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:55.880 you something. 490 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.960 Isn't it kind of unacceptable what's happened so far? 491 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.839 Are John? Well? It is? 492 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.079 I mean clearly that's not an acceptable response or environment 493 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.039 for an employer to put an employee into, you know, 494 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.839 that deal. However, I have to say, as a guy 495 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:16.359 that does this every day, one of the critical ingredients 496 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.599 that we would look at is damages. 497 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:21.240 And so yeah, I'm waiting to hear. 498 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:26.000 Okay, so what happened then? Okay, enoughset I totally agree 499 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:27.519 what happened then, Jennifer. 500 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:34.079 So when we went over by his trailer, we were 501 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.599 over there and he it was more I was trying 502 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.440 to get out by the guys so that it wasn't 503 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:43.039 alone in the building anymore, just because the comments that 504 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:48.000 he was saying, which didn't help. The guys weren't paying attention. 505 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:50.880 When we were over by the trailer, it was almost 506 00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.279 the same thing. He was like pushing my like my 507 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.839 shoulders down towards the trailer, so that I was more 508 00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:58.559 or less bending down again. 509 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.039 Wait, wait, how did he do that? Did how did 510 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:02.559 he do that? 511 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:07.000 He literally pushed you, like aggressively, like putting his hands 512 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.880 on my shoulders and pushing me down towards the trailer, Yes. 513 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:14.400 Down towards the trailer. What and why was he doing that? 514 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:16.839 When was he saying anything while he was doing it? 515 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:21.960 Because at that point, I and this, so this happened 516 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.759 over a year ago. We just finished his case. 517 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.720 Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, but hold on, 518 00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:30.680 hold on, one thing at a time. Okay, you told 519 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:31.960 me it was a year ago. But one thing at 520 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.599 a time. He was pushing you down. And then what 521 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.559 did you say anything at that point? 522 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:38.319 I didn't. 523 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:40.240 Again, it was all a sheer thing. 524 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:41.680 Okay, Then what happened? 525 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:42.799 Then what happened? 526 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:48.000 I remember my my coworker did come over because he 527 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:50.519 was going to put on his plate, so it's temporary place. 528 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.200 Well, what was the purpose of pushing you down? Did 529 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:55.480 he say, take a look at this or when he 530 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.960 was well, I don't understand. He's pushing you down. He 531 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:01.799 wants you to go down to look at the trailer. 532 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.440 Did he say anything, take a closer look. 533 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.920 It was about the tires, because he said I could 534 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:09.880 have gotten the tires. So when his trailer came, it 535 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.599 had no tires on it, and that's what we were 536 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.440 waiting for, was his tires to be put on. 537 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:15.839 You no tires or tires. 538 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:16.640 He didn't want. 539 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.519 All of our tires. All of our traders come with 540 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:22.920 the same tires, so he gets the same tires that 541 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.920 all the trailers have. But it was just having to wait. 542 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.960 So when he originally came, there was no like tires 543 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.279 on his trailer. By the time we went outside, the 544 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.640 tires were already put on his trailer, and so he 545 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.640 made the comment of I could have put them on 546 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:42.799 and he would have enjoyed watching me put on his tires. 547 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:45.839 All right, So then what keep going? 548 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:47.440 Keep going? Okay, keep going. 549 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:53.319 When Destin came over, I remember he was one of 550 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:55.440 my coworkers. He was the one who gave the or 551 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.680 put the plates on. I remember giving him like this 552 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.079 look of almost like help me, kind of look. He 553 00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.079 didn't really pay attention. He put the place on and 554 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.079 walked away. So at this point we're just kind of 555 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.200 talking about the trailer of like what's gonna happen as 556 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:10.559 far as them hooking up. 557 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:11.319 This trailer. 558 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:18.240 Cast making these clue comments of how they're not paying attention. 559 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.839 He could get me into one of these like cargo trailers, 560 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.279 and were standing by a cargo trailer about getting me 561 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.960 into one of the cargo trailers and nobody would know. 562 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.319 And I made the comment of it's too hot. It's 563 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.279 like trying to make a joke out of it instead 564 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:35.119 of it being like a. 565 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:37.359 Yeah. 566 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.640 So I'm standing now at the front of the trailer 567 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.440 and he's kind of behind me, and as I'm standing 568 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.240 there watching like the guys, hoping that one of them 569 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:51.799 would come over, he then kind of crosses my back 570 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.200 and as he's crossing my brack, he moved it down 571 00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:58.400 touches my butt and then touches my vagina kind of 572 00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:02.519 like hooks my vagina, and then I turn around real 573 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.480 quick and tell him I'm gonna go see if where 574 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.440 this progress is. And I walk away, and then I 575 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.039 go inside and I start crying. 576 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:14.880 Wow, God, dang it. So he touched your buttox and 577 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.559 your vagina and then you should have just okay, Well, 578 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:20.000 I'm not going to tell you what should okay? 579 00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:21.559 You went to start grag? What did he do at 580 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.160 that point? Did he leave? Finally? 581 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:24.960 Did you call help? What did you do? 582 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:25.480 So? 583 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.920 He So I'm inside, I start crying. I go to 584 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.759 the bathroomster crying, and then I go into like our lobby. 585 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.000 At this point, Dustin, one of my coworkers, comes inside, 586 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.119 sees me crying, ask me if everything's okay. I said, 587 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.440 he touched my butt. At this point, I didn't tell 588 00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.759 anybody that he touched my vagina because that was more 589 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:47.119 just keep going. 590 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.680 So so I want to know this. Did anyone say 591 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:51.720 anything to this guy or did he just leave? 592 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:54.440 So that was more. 593 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:56.119 Dustin was going to go. 594 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.839 Out and kick his butt. I told him no, I 595 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.960 made Dustin stay inside. Well, I ended up going and 596 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.880 telling Chris that something happened. Chris came inside. I told 597 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.799 that's what happened. Ye, we called hr HR because Chris 598 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.119 didn't know what to do. He's my manager, all. 599 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:17.799 Right, hold on, hold on, I'm ready. 600 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.880 I'm ready. At to Jennifer, I'm trying not to rush you, 601 00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:22.799 but at the same time where John is trying to 602 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.160 get a feel for what this is as far as damages. 603 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.559 So hold on, I'm Tom Martino three three seven one, 604 00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:36.319 three eight two five to five. Go with a sure 605 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:39.839 thing Denver's best roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't 606 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:45.440 pay a cent until you're content, wait time for an 607 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.039 insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call Compass 608 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.400 insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance 609 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.960 companies find out now three all three seven seven to 610 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.759 one help. You'll think you're his only customer when you 611 00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.279 choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to 612 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.559 list your home with Remax Alliance three all three nine 613 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:09.319 two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom Martsino three all 614 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.039 three seven one three talk three all three seven one 615 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:18.319 three eight two five five Jennifer, I do, I do 616 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.279 want to get to a point where we can give 617 00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.000 you some recommendations. I want to know something in the 618 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:25.240 past year. What's been going on? You said this happened 619 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.160 last year? What's been going on the past year? And 620 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.519 you said you just finished with the case. Did you 621 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:30.400 sue this gentleman? 622 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.200 What happened? I'm guessing they criminally prosecuted him? 623 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:33.599 Did they? 624 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:34.960 Did you report? 625 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:37.160 Okay, so you did report it to police? 626 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.160 I did, but it was more just the support of 627 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:40.599 the company. 628 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.160 So I have yet to hear what I want to 629 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.880 know this did the police? Was he found guilty? 630 00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:50.680 So because of evidence or more or less because of 631 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.799 camera footage? How everything was set up, the footage that 632 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.720 my company sent, they got him with just the harassment charge. 633 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.799 Okay, fine, so that's done. Now what are you calling 634 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.640 about today? Are you upset with the way the whole 635 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:05.359 thing was handled? 636 00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.279 Absolutely with my company? Even now, like I said, from 637 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.880 my like my HR department rolled me that day that happened, 638 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.759 and I haven't heard from them since. There was no Okay, 639 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.160 I'm the first female that was hired at this company 640 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:19.680 to work for. 641 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:20.759 What do you want a law? 642 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.839 What would you what would you have considered to be 643 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:24.440 acceptable from your company? 644 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.720 I mean just checking in. There was no counseling, there 645 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.480 was no I've had to use my days off to 646 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.880 go to these courts that have been continuously put off, 647 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.279 and then I mean it's been a continuous there's just 648 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.759 no support at all. I've been like I feel like I've. 649 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:41.440 Been Are you there? 650 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:42.920 Are you still there, Jennifer? 651 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:44.359 Yes? 652 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:47.680 Okay, John. Does she have a case against her employer? 653 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.599 You know, No, I don't think so. 654 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.599 I mean, I unless there was an actor that was 655 00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:01.039 part of the employer, and under these circumstances, I think 656 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:06.559 what you have is a failure to act. Well, you know, 657 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.359 it's it's that you know, maybe if if the damages 658 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.519 were greater and you could point to a failure of 659 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.000 the company to put in protective safeguards and stuff, then 660 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.000 I think that maybe you would have the grounds to 661 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:22.720 go forward. But I still didn't hear. I mean, did 662 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:26.920 it go beyond the touching that you described? To us, Jennifer, No, 663 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:28.519 I think. 664 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.559 I mean that was bad enough. You know, I'm just 665 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:34.359 asking did it? 666 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.359 I mean, she's she's saying they could only get the harassment, 667 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.160 which tells me that's push show touch. You know, that's 668 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:44.559 a that's a barely basic threshold misdemeanor type. 669 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:45.920 You know case. 670 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.680 Were there allegations that it went way beyond that. I 671 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:51.920 just need to know what you know this and we 672 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.079 can ask her that off the air. 673 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:55.359 But right now, Jennifer, I don't know what you were 674 00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:56.279 trying to accomplish. 675 00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.000 We'd be happy to talk to you about it. Go 676 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.720 with a sure thing Denver's Best for excel roofing dot com. 677 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.519 You don't pay a cent until you're content, wait time 678 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.840 for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison call 679 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.239 Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of 680 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.239 insurance companies find out now three all three seven seven 681 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.119 one help. You'll think you're his only customer when you 682 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.639 choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to 683 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.920 list your home with Remax Alliance three all three nine 684 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:27.599 two zero sixteen twenty two. 685 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.559 Ripped of red news. 686 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.280 You need that so you don't have. 687 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:45.760 Run in as fast as we can. Show Shooter's gonna help. 688 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:53.000 Come Dick is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hello. 689 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:54.719 Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. 690 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.119 Three oh three seven one three talk three all three 691 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.679 seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to the show. 692 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.960 Our guest is John Fuller Fuller Law. He's a personal 693 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.719 injury attorney. If you look him up online and google him, 694 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.239 you'll see what he does. He helps people with car 695 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.119 accidents to get their rights basically so they don't ruin 696 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.719 their rights. And anyway, he's with us today. John, Welcome, 697 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:18.920 and I want to just go over something real quick. 698 00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:20.639 I'm going to first take this call and then we'll 699 00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.599 go over at the previous call because a lot of 700 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.679 people are asking what was what does she want? 701 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:25.840 We don't know what she wanted. 702 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.280 We really don't and I don't mean that in a 703 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.880 bad put down way, but we don't know what she wanted. 704 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:32.480 We don't know what she's asking for. 705 00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.400 And a lot of times that's a problem, or not 706 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.320 a lot of times, it's always a problem. 707 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:39.440 But I need to take Jordana. 708 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.559 She's been waiting so long, and we have John Fuller, 709 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.119 whether she's talking about a car accident. 710 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:44.199 Jordana, what's going on? 711 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:47.400 Why? How are you good? 712 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.559 I'm doing good and I hope we can help you. 713 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:50.199 What's going on? 714 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:51.840 Okay? 715 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.960 So well, I want to start about regarding my son's 716 00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:01.480 accident that happened August seventh, Stiff, I get emotional. August 717 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:06.719 seventeenth of twenty twenty two. He actually got killed on the. 718 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.159 Road on his Oh, oh my god, Oh my god. 719 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:15.639 So your son got killed in August of twenty twenty two. Yes, oh, 720 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:16.800 what happened? 721 00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:19.199 Sorry? 722 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.639 He was on his way to get medicine for his 723 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:27.280 girlfriend and coming down the road a company truck fifty 724 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.960 to eighty seamless gutters. They are located hest minister the drive. 725 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.679 The driver of the truck turned to soon. My son 726 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.679 had to ride away. The truck turned to soon cut 727 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.039 him off and he ended up being pronounced ben. 728 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:43.639 At the scene. 729 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:49.599 So, Jordana, Jordana, I'm honest to God, my heart to 730 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.920 lose a child, I don't even have words, but I 731 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.159 need to ask them details. This was a commercial truck 732 00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:01.719 that ran into your son, Yes, and it was eight 733 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.760 eight eight seamless gutters. Did you say no? 734 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.880 Fifty to eighty. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I heard. 735 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.360 It fifty to eighty. Okay, I need to know this 736 00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:13.320 was were they given a ticket? 737 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.760 Not that night of that night of the of the accident, 738 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.519 they did not get a ticket. Nobody got arrested, No 739 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.880 one went to jail. They did do blood work on 740 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:31.800 the gentleman. Uh, yes, Hernandez, Yes, we came back three months, 741 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.599 three months later that he was yeah, three times the 742 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.920 legal limit of Oh. 743 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.400 Was he arrested? Then was he arrested? 744 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.440 Then they rolled out? 745 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:44.360 Did you say you know what? 746 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.039 Hold hold on? Hold on, danare Dana? I'm sorry, dear, 747 00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.519 this is we need to know a lot of stuff 748 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.519 and we can't just gloss over it. So when you 749 00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:00.920 said the driver's blood out, was it blood alcohol or 750 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:01.880 blood THHC? 751 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.000 Blood THC was three? 752 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:11.639 Is there a legal limit for that, John, Well, it's yes, 753 00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:14.199 there is, but it's a very tricky thing because a 754 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.559 legal limit of THHC or any limit of THC doesn't 755 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.000 necessarily correlate to impairment. 756 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.280 So that's still a very high limit. Though. Go ahead, ma'am, 757 00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:24.679 tell me the rest of your story. 758 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:31.079 Yeah. And so when we so in December early January, 759 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.880 we got letters saying that they are charging mister Hernandez 760 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.960 for an accident, but they are charging him for careless 761 00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:47.199 driving and under the influence, So two separate charges under 762 00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:53.039 the influence resulting in death. Two years go by if 763 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:55.800 we don't get to go to trial until two years later, 764 00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.960 which just ended in August. The investor we had three 765 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.800 different witnesses on the stands on our side. One of 766 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.880 them was the eyewitness that witness the whole accident, the 767 00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.039 second one was the officer on the scene after Daniel 768 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.840 McDonald's he was from West Minister Police Department. And then 769 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.760 we had a toxicology report on on our side to testify. 770 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:27.800 Are you speaking Are you speaking of the criminal aspect? 771 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:29.679 So far? Tom? 772 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.039 Okay, so far? This is a criminal court. 773 00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.480 Okay. Did they convict him? 774 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:36.320 Yeah? 775 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:41.360 Okay, Well so it's it's a long well let me 776 00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.639 say this. So when we went to trial, you know, 777 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:48.000 they actually ended up seating us in the same area 778 00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.920 and in the same role as his family because they 779 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.360 didn't have no room. We got provoked during that time. 780 00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.840 We wore my son's shirts, like you know, his picture 781 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.440 on the shirt we had. We had a picture frame 782 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.639 with us because we didn't know we were going to 783 00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:07.159 go to immediate sentencing a week later. They the courts 784 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.960 told us to take off our shirts. They told us 785 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.760 to be they have to take ours because we're intimidating 786 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:19.800 the defendant. Okay, so and so let me go back 787 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.760 to a little bit when they had off to Daniel 788 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:29.400 McDonald testify on the stands. You know, it was very sloppy. 789 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:30.280 He didn't care. 790 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.960 But your dana, are you if he was ultimately if 791 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:38.079 he was ultimately convicted, what are you tell me about there? 792 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.440 Rather than you know, these little little things in the trial. 793 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.159 What are you are you complaining about the ultimate outcome. 794 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.199 Everything? We weren't. We weren't in the when the DA 795 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.199 was trying to put the charges on Hernandez. We were 796 00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:59.320 not in the decision making of that. We had no 797 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:04.159 say anything. So they found him guilty of driving under 798 00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.519 the influence for the second time. So this is a 799 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.840 second offense. And they found him not guilty on the 800 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:11.800 careless driving. 801 00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.320 Now wait, that's fine, not guilty. You've got a couple 802 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:18.280 of questions. Did they still found him guilty of the 803 00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.079 UI causing dad? So they got I mean, that's that's 804 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:26.039 a big serious charge. Did he did you just pursue this. 805 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:32.039 But that's he did have a child and he does 806 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.800 have a daughter, so that civil case against the company 807 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.199 is being you know, it's being pur stood by the 808 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:41.480 girlfriend and everything. 809 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.599 No, no, Geordana, your dana, jrdana, hold on your dana. 810 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:47.800 Wait a minute. How old was your son? 811 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:50.400 Thirty? 812 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:51.360 Okay? 813 00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.360 And her next to kin? 814 00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:54.199 Okay? 815 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.039 It wasn't your son. What what is it your son 816 00:41:59.159 --> 00:41:59.320 or not? 817 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:02.119 Yes, it's my son. 818 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:03.719 Okay, your biological son. 819 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.519 And he was married or or common law married, they 820 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.639 had a child together, and that woman, his spouse or 821 00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:15.519 his significant other, is suing the company. Is that right? 822 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.719 She is trying to pursue a lawsuit against the company. 823 00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:21.000 What what does that mean? 824 00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:21.679 Trying? 825 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.800 Does she have an attorney? 826 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:24.559 Lawyer? 827 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:29.119 And did they file was an attorney? Did they file 828 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:30.079 a lawsuit? 829 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:32.159 I'm sure they did tell me. 830 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:32.920 I believe. 831 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:38.280 I believe so, I believe. So it's just okay, I 832 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.639 just don't. The reason why I'm calling is I don't 833 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.360 feel like my son got justice. It's not about the money. 834 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.559 It's if they gave the defendant thirty days of health arrest. 835 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.440 That was it for a dui causing death? 836 00:42:56.360 --> 00:43:01.639 Yes, sir, yes, that that's I'm speaking justice for my 837 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.320 son A two and my son like roadkill. 838 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:11.039 Oh John, Is that unusual the thirty days of house arrest. 839 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:13.840 On his second offense. 840 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.679 Yeah, so, I mean, no, it's not. It tells me 841 00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.440 that there was something going on with that prosecution. There 842 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.039 was some problem, some error. I mean, if it's just 843 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:26.400 that could be back to what we talked about earlier, 844 00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.840 where the level of THHC is is certainly a problem, 845 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.239 but it's not necessarily indicative of impairment because it's you know, 846 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.119 the level of impairment on any given level of THC 847 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.599 could could equal a different level of impairment for you 848 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:43.519 or I or ten different people, and so it's challenging. 849 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.320 So I don't know what happened in that case. 850 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.239 What I can tell you is that hold on in 851 00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:54.639 this in this circumstance, Jordana, you got to you got 852 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.639 to get your justice on the civil side of things. 853 00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:00.159 Nobody's ever going to feel that you got justice is 854 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.559 strictly in the criminal side as a victim. That I mean, 855 00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:06.079 you can put somebody in jail, but you can't ever 856 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.119 bring back your son. And the purpose of the civil 857 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.760 course is to balance the scales and bring back and 858 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.679 undo as much as you can what was taken away 859 00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:18.039 from you and in this case, taken away from his 860 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:20.920 child because as a grown man and at thirty, he's 861 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:21.599 a grown king. 862 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.199 But I have a question, John, the child, John, I 863 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:24.760 have a question. 864 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.559 Does this woman as the mom, also have a civil 865 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.199 case against the company or just or does she not 866 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.599 have standing if she wanted to down the list? 867 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.960 She's down the list this because he has a child. 868 00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.599 That child is going to be the presumptive party to 869 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.480 bring the action. The only way that the mom would 870 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.280 be able to bring it would be if the child 871 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.840 or a spouse disclaimed the claim and chose not to 872 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:52.079 do it. 873 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.079 But they don't both have claims. They don't both have. 874 00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:59.280 Okay, No they don't, so they don't, okay, So her 875 00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.840 pursuit and to go ahead, yes, ma'am. 876 00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:05.800 On the so if you had a witness, which is 877 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.199 the lady that did the blood tests, she was a 878 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:13.639 specialist on the toxicology report. The DA asked her a question. 879 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.199 He said, did his driving that night? Did his level 880 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.360 of TC that night impair his driving? She said yes, 881 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:23.280 but that's. 882 00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.280 But he was he was convicted of that. 883 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:27.719 See I'm not sure what more you want. 884 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.800 He was convicted of that, but you feel he should 885 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.360 have gotten a harsher sentence. 886 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.480 Yes, yes, I feel like you know, I'm not asking 887 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.920 him to do a life sentence, and as an accident 888 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.119 is an accident. But at the same time, he's back 889 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:50.000 driving the same truck, he's back working at the water company's. 890 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:49.440 He's working for the same company. 891 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:55.400 Yes, his his father owns the company. 892 00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:00.039 Oh well, that okay, all right, all right? John, Do 893 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.360 you do you have any advice for her, because Jordana, 894 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:05.679 I'm not sure there's anything anyone can do for you 895 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:10.599 other than the you know, the the spouse seeking damages 896 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.800 for the sun. But I don't Jordana, I don't think 897 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.159 you're going to get this case reopened. If that's what 898 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:19.840 you're trying to do. John, Let's give her the truth 899 00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:20.840 at least right now. 900 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:23.400 Yeah. 901 00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.920 The truth of the situation is that the criminal process 902 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.320 has run its course. For whatever reason, they got the 903 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.199 conviction that they got. If it went to trial, that 904 00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.039 was the decision of a jury after hearing all the evidence. 905 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:41.199 I can't speak to the courtroom, theatrics, the shirts and 906 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:44.360 you know, wearing all that stuff, But you know, the 907 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.400 bottom line here is that that process is over, and 908 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:49.719 as a victim, you don't have the ability to go 909 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:54.039 back in and say, we want a more harsh sentence 910 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.239 or we want a more you know, serious charge. I 911 00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.000 mean you have to leave that to the DA to 912 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.039 make those decisions. Yes, as a victim, you have the 913 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:05.280 right to be heard and to you know, participate at 914 00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.199 every stage. But on the civil side, I mean that 915 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:11.079 the child is the presumptive party to be pursuing this. 916 00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.000 I'm glad they have an attorney. I'm glad they're pursuing it. 917 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.320 I can't imagine that this person would be driving, but 918 00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:21.199 with the family owning it, you know, that just seems crazy. 919 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.320 And I can't even imagine that their insurance company is 920 00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.639 going to let that person drive for very much longer. 921 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.800 And that child should, based on what you've told me, 922 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:33.320 be very well taken care of by the time this 923 00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:34.400 is all said and done. 924 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:40.039 Yeah, and I hope they have a good representation. Listen, Jordana, 925 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.639 there's not much we can do. 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So Jennifer called in the 947 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:56.360 beginning of the show and she had a really I 948 00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.840 think it was it was a terrible thing happened to 949 00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.079 her at work and the guy was prosecuted, and I 950 00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.239 want to know a couple of things here. First of all, 951 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.599 the guy was prosecuted, and she doesn't like the way 952 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:14.960 her company handled it. But basically the cops did charge him. 953 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.199 He did only thirty Wait, wait, that's the one. I'm sorry, 954 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.280 I'm sorry, I got it, Okay. 955 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:22.800 So so she went. 956 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.519 She was harassed and assaulted, and I believe was he 957 00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.519 convicted of harassment? Yes, but you don't like the way 958 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.880 your company supported you, and you wanted to know if 959 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.920 there's anything you can do about it, John, what do 960 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:37.320 you think? 961 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.159 Well, my thought was that you know, this was during 962 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.440 the courson scope of her employment, and so you know, 963 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:48.880 maybe the first avenue for you would be to pursue 964 00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.280 a work compcase and try to get some of the 965 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:57.239 counseling and treatment that you think is warranted here or necessary. 966 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.840 You know, I don't really see a civil case here 967 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.159 against your employer. I don't do a lot of these cases, 968 00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.239 but normally, when we have a case, there's a bad 969 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:11.079 actor in the employer, and that means a boss, a supervisor, 970 00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.519 or whatever that's not really present here. What you're saying 971 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:19.320 is they failed to understand while you were being subjected 972 00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.559 to bad things, but were incapable of articulating those to 973 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.880 your boss. I mean, you said yourself numerous times. I 974 00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.239 didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. I didn't say 975 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.000 anything John. 976 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.280 What about after? But what about after John? What about 977 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.360 after he was charged? I think she was hinting that 978 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.480 they didn't cooperate enough. They didn't give enough video, they 979 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:43.079 didn't give enough evidence. What about that? 980 00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:49.239 Well, they got a conviction, Jennifer, not of the assault. 981 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:51.360 It's just with the police or. 982 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.880 What, Jennifer, you say they didn't cooperate fully? 983 00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:56.159 What do you mean? Exactly? 984 00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:00.719 So with the defense attorney. So when she called to 985 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.039 get more of the footage and stuff, they straight out 986 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.679 told her that they destroyed the footage, that they didn't 987 00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.199 have it anymore for her to look at. 988 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.400 Well, hold on, they told that to the to the 989 00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:13.920 defense attorney. 990 00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:18.000 Right, So it's the same thing now if I it's 991 00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:23.039 just like me telling all three my manager, my assistant manager, 992 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:26.719 and my other employee that I was uncomfortable and now 993 00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:29.519 that footage has gone as well. So it's the same 994 00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.840 thing that I'm feeling, where I feel like that information 995 00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:34.440 that I'm telling them, and that. 996 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.880 Would you do, John asked, what would you do with 997 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:38.079 the footage if you did have it? 998 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:40.960 Well, I mean, I feel like that's proof that I 999 00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.079 told them that I was uncomfortable and they still left 1000 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:44.280 me in a situation. 1001 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:48.760 Where they they didn't cause it at all. You're saying 1002 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:53.480 that it would show they were negligent. Absolutely, How would 1003 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:54.960 show they were negligent. 1004 00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.679 Any of this? So, before any of this actually took place, 1005 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.199 there was already planned in place that one of them 1006 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.559 would stay with me at all times, and none of 1007 00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.360 them did. They all left me. 1008 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.119 Wait wait, wait, they all left you way camera, Jennifer. 1009 00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.760 Wait they left you when when he came back? 1010 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:15.239 Right? 1011 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.519 So, when I told him I was uncomfortable with that man? 1012 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.480 Hold on, hold on, Jennifer, hold on. You told him 1013 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.360 you were uncomfortable with that man? Yes, and then he 1014 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.639 came back and they knew he was back, they knew 1015 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:36.079 you had felt uncomfortable, and still did not accompany you. Right, Yes, Okay, 1016 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.119 I'm trying to I'm trying to make that very clear. Okay, 1017 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.440 So on the video, would it have had your audio 1018 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:42.760 on there of you telling them that? 1019 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:44.559 Absolutely? 1020 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.280 They record say I'm not going out there with that guy. 1021 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.360 You're going to have to send it, send another salesperson 1022 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:51.840 out there. 1023 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.119 Yeah, yeah, I would you have said that here. 1024 00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:56.159 But I'm really, I'm really trying to figure it out, 1025 00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:58.840 Like what what did you want them to do? 1026 00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:03.400 So again, I mean, it's still the same. 1027 00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:06.599 She wanted them to accompany her. She wanted them to 1028 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.400 recognize she was uncomfortable without her having to formalize it 1029 00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.079 in the absence of that. 1030 00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.199 But in the I know, I got that. But in 1031 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.880 the absence of that, why didn't you not go? I mean, 1032 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.119 why I get that they failed you. 1033 00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:25.760 You could have said, Jennifer, you could have said, listen, 1034 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:27.000 I told you I'm uncomfortable. 1035 00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:28.719 I'm not going out there with that guy. You better 1036 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:29.559 send someone else. 1037 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:30.639 Could you have said that. 1038 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.840 At what point when they were all gone and I 1039 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:36.119 was left alone with him? 1040 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.039 No, the second time he came on to the lot, 1041 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:41.039 you could have said, I'm not dealing with this guy. 1042 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:43.400 I told you I was uncomfortable with him. 1043 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:48.400 When they all left and I was again alone with him, when. 1044 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:54.679 Did you Jennifer Jennifer, Jennifer, Jennifer, Jennifer, Jennifer, you gotta listen, 1045 00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.119 I'm asking this. The first time he came you told 1046 00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.320 him you were uncomfortable. Second time he came. Let me 1047 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:05.159 ask you this. The second time he came, where were 1048 00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:06.079 your coworkers? 1049 00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:08.800 They left? 1050 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.199 They went out by okay, they. 1051 00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:15.400 Left before hold on, John, just wait please? Did they 1052 00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:19.199 leave before he arrived? 1053 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:20.519 Yes? 1054 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:25.079 Then how can they be blamed for leaving you alone 1055 00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:26.519 if they did not. 1056 00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:28.719 Know he was coming coming back? 1057 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:31.880 Did they know what time he was coming back? 1058 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.480 Absolutely, they all knew he was coming back at two. 1059 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:36.880 It was a scheduled thing. 1060 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.280 Okay, So they should have said, by the way, Jennifer, 1061 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:43.159 that man is coming back at two. I'm going to 1062 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:43.960 stay with you. 1063 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:47.000 Yes. 1064 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.159 Could you have said, guys, wait a minute, I need 1065 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.880 someone to stay behind here because at two o'clock that 1066 00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.639 scary man is coming back. 1067 00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:58.440 Could you have verbalized so. 1068 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.599 Too, and you guys are not here? Where the heck? 1069 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:01.480 Are you right? 1070 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:02.360 It's coming back? 1071 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:03.559 Could you have done that? 1072 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.199 I mean I could have, yes, But I was coming 1073 00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.199 back off of lunch and I literally talked in and 1074 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:12.920 he was there. 1075 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:18.880 Okay, Jennifer, I know I'm not trying to Honest to God, 1076 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:20.079 I'm not trying to attack you. 1077 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.079 I do believe you that you are uncomfortable. 1078 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.840 We're just asking these questions, because these are the questions 1079 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.719 you will be asked if you tried to pursue something now. 1080 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.559 So okay, so it's what do you want right now? 1081 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:39.199 Have you ever pursued civil action against him personally? The 1082 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.400 man John could? 1083 00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.119 I don't have anything for him now they've destroyed all 1084 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.639 the evidence. I have nothing to prove anything now, okay. 1085 00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:52.360 So, Jennifer, how many how many. 1086 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.280 Times I have a phone call from the officer in him? 1087 00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:56.519 How many times before? 1088 00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.800 How many times before has this happened to you with 1089 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.039 a sexual harassment or assault? 1090 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.480 I mean, this is the first one that's ever been recorded. 1091 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:11.239 But how many times? Though? But you said you were traumatized? 1092 00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:13.239 How many other times has this happened? 1093 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:15.800 I was raped when I was sixteen. 1094 00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:18.039 Oh my family friend, Oh my god. 1095 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:20.039 Okay, okay, well, and then. 1096 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.360 My sister's father molested me from the time I was 1097 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:23.360 three until I was eight. 1098 00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:29.519 Oh my goodness, Jennifer, Are you getting counseling and stuff? 1099 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:35.159 By the way, I was, yeah, Are you still no? 1100 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.960 I can't. I divorced my husband last year and I 1101 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:39.599 can't afford it. 1102 00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:39.800 Now. 1103 00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:43.000 Well, there's help available where you don't have to pay 1104 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.960 for it. Seriously, I'm serious, Jennifer. I think you need 1105 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:47.800 to deal with this now. 1106 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:48.360 Now listen. 1107 00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:51.480 I understand why you're upset, but I have a feeling 1108 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:55.960 sometimes people and I don't mean this as a negative, 1109 00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.559 but you're lashing out at your employer. You're upset with 1110 00:56:58.679 --> 00:56:59.760 the injustice of it all. 1111 00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:00.320 Get it. 1112 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.440 But I think there is trauma that you have to 1113 00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:06.079 deal with so you can feel better about this, I 1114 00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:07.679 mean about yourself and stuff. 1115 00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.000 I think there's more to it. 1116 00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:10.960 But that's it is. 1117 00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:14.599 I worked on that. That's not what happened. Is when 1118 00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:18.119 he touched me, it brought up a lot of other stuff, absolutely, 1119 00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:19.480 and I went to the counseling for that. 1120 00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.199 Okay, So it's not like I haven't. 1121 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.800 Worked on myself. It's not like I haven't done it. 1122 00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:26.440 It's the fact that I told my manager. 1123 00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.079 Yeah, I know, we get it. They're saying, I get it. 1124 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:31.679 You're saying they were negligent. 1125 00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:34.519 John. Is she going to have a negligent case against 1126 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.320 her employer? Do you feel if she came into your office? 1127 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:37.960 Yes? 1128 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:38.239 Or no? 1129 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:41.360 It would not be a case that I would pursue. 1130 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:45.920 I mean, I listen, there are people that really specialize 1131 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.039 in this, in this kind of stuff. I think the 1132 00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:50.760 difficulty you're going to have is that the damages haven't 1133 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:54.079 been fully you know, they're not fully mature. We don't 1134 00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:58.559 really have a you know, a long list of medical 1135 00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:01.559 expenses and stuff for the counseling. I mean, it's it's 1136 00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:04.559 a tragic story, but I just don't think it's gonna 1137 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:06.400 mature into a civil case. 1138 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:07.800 But I could be wrong. 1139 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:12.519 I mean, you've got a horrible history, and I feel 1140 00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:14.920 really bad for you, but I just don't know that 1141 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:19.440 this one has all the ingredients to fully mature into 1142 00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:19.800 a case. 1143 00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.719 And Jennifer, you may want to call attorneys that specialize 1144 00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:27.239 in this negligence and for this sexual assault, but at 1145 00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.320 this point, to be really straight with you, we don't. 1146 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.920 We don't see a strong I think you you might 1147 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.840 want to, I don't. I don't think you're going to 1148 00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:40.360 get anything from there. I don't. I don't think there's 1149 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.440 going to be a load of damages, maybe psychologically if 1150 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.079 you find the right attorney, but we don't know of anyone. 1151 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.519 I'm sorry, And again I do believe you, and I 1152 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.400 do believe maybe they took it too casually. Maybe they did, 1153 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:56.719 you know, but I don't know if there's a legal 1154 00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:01.760 case there. I'm Martino three oh three seven to one 1155 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:09.639 three talk go with a sure thing Denver's best rufer 1156 00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:12.719 Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until 1157 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:18.599 you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no 1158 00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:23.039 obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage 1159 00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:25.760 at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh 1160 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:28.239 three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his 1161 00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.000 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 1162 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:34.320 Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 1163 00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:39.519 three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. I'm 1164 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:43.239 Martino here three O three seven one three talk three 1165 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:47.400 seven three eight two five five. Let's go to the 1166 00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.239 phones and Marlene, what's going on with you? 1167 00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:53.320 Marlene? I'm Tom Martino. What's happening? What's happening? Marlene? 1168 00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:57.920 Hello, I would like to hire a summer Hello. 1169 00:59:58.480 --> 00:59:59.519 Okay, what's going on? 1170 01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:00.440 Yeah? 1171 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:01.000 What's going on? 1172 01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:01.360 Well? 1173 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.599 Yeah, I've been frauded by a couple of different reputable 1174 01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:09.920 plumbing companies. Come in and they're looking for something else, 1175 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.199 doing something else, not what I've asked now. Just yesterday 1176 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.960 I called one of your guys off the referral list 1177 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:18.280 because I need someone in here. 1178 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:19.559 Yes, what do you? 1179 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:23.400 First of all, what is the issue you're calling about, Marlene? 1180 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:26.679 As far as the plumber, well, traud. 1181 01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:29.840 By, misrepresentation, folks that have come into. 1182 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:31.199 My home, I understand. 1183 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.280 But before before that, why did you call a plumber 1184 01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:35.119 to begin with? 1185 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:35.920 Oh? 1186 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.280 Oh, well for a couple of different things. 1187 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:39.000 So we're backup? 1188 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.199 Was the initial a couple of years ago? And then 1189 01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:48.639 now I've discovered that my indoor, my water, baseboard heat HIPing, 1190 01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:53.920 the copper piping has been systematically removed and replaced, and 1191 01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.159 my hold outside of my area of my house, the 1192 01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:00.480 inside of it is like torn up. It's it's been 1193 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.199 You can tell that people have been dealing with it, 1194 01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:05.400 messing with it. I wanted to turn on my heat, 1195 01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:09.400 and I'm afraid too because of the baseboard heat hyping beams. 1196 01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:12.840 Here's what I want to ask you, and Marlene. I 1197 01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:18.079 asked this just because I please just go along with me. 1198 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.239 I want to help you. I need to know. 1199 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.480 And this is going to sound like the strangest question 1200 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:23.079 in the world. 1201 01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.599 A few years ago, when this sewer backup happened, was 1202 01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:28.199 anything else going on in your life. 1203 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.639 Oh yeah, my husband had just passed away. 1204 01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:36.599 Okay, all right, So then it was after that you 1205 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:38.360 found that people were messing with you? 1206 01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:45.480 Yes, yes, okay, now okay, Now does. 1207 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.800 That mean when they were messing with your plumbing they 1208 01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.440 were somehow getting inside your house or were they doing 1209 01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:51.280 it from outside? 1210 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:53.199 Both? 1211 01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:56.840 And do you find people lurking around your house. 1212 01:01:58.480 --> 01:01:59.039 Sometimes? 1213 01:01:59.199 --> 01:01:59.360 Yes? 1214 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:02.079 Do you ever get up in the day, did you 1215 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:04.559 ever get up the next day or somewhere and people 1216 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:06.280 had been screwing around in your house? 1217 01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.800 Well, I'm not sure, probably, I mean I I was just. 1218 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:16.119 Saying I'm not trying to lead you on. No, No, 1219 01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:18.719 you don't have to say yes. I'm just trying to 1220 01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:22.239 figure out the extent of this this stuff going on 1221 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:23.960 with you. Do you have kids? 1222 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.599 I do, okay, And what do they say? 1223 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:35.400 Well, my youngest moved out some months ago because I 1224 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:38.079 couldn't leave her here alone. It wasn't safe. 1225 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:41.880 So why wasn't it safe? Hold on, hold on, why 1226 01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:42.800 wasn't it safe? 1227 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.920 Because folks keep coming on the property and coming into 1228 01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.960 the house and I've made peach reports and. 1229 01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:53.480 You say coming into the house. I asked you about that, 1230 01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:55.159 So how do they gain entry. 1231 01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:59.159 Well, that's a good question. The best question is a 1232 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.679 million dollar question. Clearly they've gone to the back door, 1233 01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.440 has been like you can see where it's been, you know, 1234 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:06.079 just chicken in. 1235 01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.920 Okay, So you called someone, mare Lene from my referral list, 1236 01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:12.559 to come out to do what to do? What? 1237 01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.400 I wanted somebody to look at the pipes my before 1238 01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:19.800 heating pipes that leads to my boiler. Yes, and I 1239 01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:23.480 didn't turn one zone on because the pipes looked like 1240 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:25.360 they've been messed around with. I didn't know if it 1241 01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:26.000 was safe for me. 1242 01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:26.960 What did they say? 1243 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:28.519 What? What did they say? 1244 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.440 They said that they only did water heaters. 1245 01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.760 Okay, I said, well, and who was this that you called? 1246 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.840 I called euro euro Plumbing. 1247 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:42.440 Oh okay, uh huh yeah they yeah. 1248 01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:43.920 I don't think I heard them on your show. 1249 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.639 But I don't think they do boilers. They're right about 1250 01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:48.800 the Yeah, I'm sorry they do boilers. 1251 01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:50.320 I didn't ask them to do boilers. 1252 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:50.960 They do. 1253 01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.519 They do total pipe inspection and replacement, according to. 1254 01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.920 Their Yeah, yeah, yeah, repiping, it's called repiping. 1255 01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:58.519 Yes, I reping. 1256 01:03:58.800 --> 01:03:58.960 Yeah. 1257 01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:00.719 So I just wanted somebody. I didn't want someone to 1258 01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:02.360 even look at the boiler. I wanted to see that 1259 01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.320 the pipe, the baseboard heat pipes were intact and say 1260 01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:07.239 for me to go ahead. 1261 01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:07.440 And turn on this. 1262 01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:08.079 Now. 1263 01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.079 Are you saying that all plumbers that you have called 1264 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.199 not only are the people messing with your home, but 1265 01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.840 all plumbers that you called have been ripping you off? 1266 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:20.760 No, I'm saying that all plumbers that I've called have 1267 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.360 been My calls have been intercepted, and I was hired 1268 01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:27.239 reputable for example. 1269 01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:28.400 Swan Uh. 1270 01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.559 Now, what do you mean intercepted? What do you mean 1271 01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.039 your calls were intercept were intercepted? Intercepted? 1272 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:35.239 Well, it feels that way. 1273 01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:38.079 It feels as though they've been intercepted, like yesterday when 1274 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:40.880 I called, Okay. 1275 01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:41.960 Hold on, Marlene, I have to take a break. Please, 1276 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:43.840 please don't hang up. I I want to I do 1277 01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:47.079 want to talk to you. I took down copious notes here. 1278 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.039 I'm Tom Martine three oh three seven, one to three 1279 01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:57.559 talk hang on, go with a sure thing Denver's Best 1280 01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:01.039 roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't a cent until 1281 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:07.519 you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. 1282 01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:11.360 In comparison, call compass insurance paying too much your coverage 1283 01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:12.920 at dozens of insurance companies. 1284 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:15.599 Find out now three oh three seven seven to one help. 1285 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.440 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 1286 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:20.920 durand the real estate man dot com to list your 1287 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.079 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 1288 01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:33.079 sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three oh three 1289 01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:36.400 seven one three talk three oh three seven one three 1290 01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:40.119 eight two five five. Welcome to the show. Let's continue here, 1291 01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:48.280 And Marlene, I, I know you called me because you trust. 1292 01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:53.119 Me, right, I don't trust anybody? 1293 01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:55.760 Do you trust? Do you trust me? I? 1294 01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:00.320 Look, well, well you picked me. In another word, I 1295 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:01.159 didn't call on you. 1296 01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.199 I do have some plumbers that I know you can 1297 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:06.599 trust that could truly find out if you have any 1298 01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:09.639 throwng words of plumbing. Marlene, I'm going to tell you something, 1299 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.760 and if you don't like me after I tell you, 1300 01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:14.239 I still want you to remember me because I'm going 1301 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.639 to invite you to call me back when you if 1302 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.440 you give it some thought. But honest to God, I'm 1303 01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:24.960 only saying this because of my mom. I swear to God, 1304 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:28.280 you had an emotional trauma when your husband died, and 1305 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:31.239 all of these things happened after your husband died. Now, wait, 1306 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:33.920 I'm not saying you didn't have problems. You could have 1307 01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:37.159 had plumbing problems, you could have had various problems. But 1308 01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:41.480 the fact that you're saying that various people are getting 1309 01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:46.320 into your house and sabotaging plumbing and different things. I 1310 01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:50.960 feel there could be a psychological component to this, and 1311 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:55.119 I urge you. I truly urge you, because I'm concerned 1312 01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:57.800 for you that you get some help. And I don't 1313 01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.400 mean you're crazy. I swear to God, I don't. All 1314 01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:03.480 of us have varying levels. In fact, I don't believe 1315 01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:06.159 there is anything as normal. I think we all have 1316 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:12.039 varying levels of emotional trauma, distrust, mental illness of some kind, 1317 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.519 and it's only our ability to cope with it that 1318 01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:16.559 helps us survive. 1319 01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:17.760 We all do. 1320 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.719 In fact, when someone thinks they're completely normal, those are 1321 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.119 usually the sickest ones, or they think there's nothing. 1322 01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:24.719 Ever wrong with them. 1323 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:29.239 I believe that after your husband died, you were expecting 1324 01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:33.639 almost things to happen, and I think you looked a 1325 01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.960 little too hard, and maybe you're putting stuff together that 1326 01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:38.320 doesn't belong together. 1327 01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:40.199 Maybe your daughter mentioned this to you. 1328 01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:40.760 I don't know. 1329 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:43.280 I don't know if anyone else has ever mentioned it 1330 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.800 to you, But I don't want you to think that 1331 01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.920 I don't want to help you. I promise you we'll 1332 01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:52.440 look at your plumbing. But I think you might have 1333 01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:57.880 an emotional component to this where you probably have some 1334 01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:03.760 stressors because it's a major deal to lose someone, especially 1335 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.559 were you too close you and your husband. 1336 01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.880 I'll tell you what if you think I trust you 1337 01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:14.639 and you want to hear what I'm going to tell you, Uh, 1338 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.279 my husband and I had issues. And that's that's not 1339 01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:19.119 even the reason why I'm calling. The reason why I'm 1340 01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:24.680 calling is because I've been frauded by several different reputable 1341 01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:31.479 companies for plumbing for my vehicles. I've been vandalized, I've 1342 01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:33.600 been robbed, I've. 1343 01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.239 Had so Marlene, do you feel not say? 1344 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:38.079 Oh, can I finish what I'm saying? 1345 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:39.520 Please? And then I'll have to finished. 1346 01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:44.720 I cannot. You cannot substantiate my mental health, uh and 1347 01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:47.600 do the math with the materials and tools and things 1348 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:48.880 that have been stolen from my home. 1349 01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:49.760 You can't. 1350 01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:53.479 You cannot tell me that you're going to help me 1351 01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:58.319 when you're worried about my plumbing. It's a bigger picture than. 1352 01:08:58.239 --> 01:08:59.399 That, Marlene. 1353 01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:02.600 I believe that you have a lot of things that 1354 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:04.760 you've collected that have happened to you. 1355 01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:05.960 I'm not saying they didn't. 1356 01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:08.319 I don't think anyone's out to get you. 1357 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:09.840 I don't think anyone's targeting you. 1358 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.720 Hold on, go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer 1359 01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:15.239 Excel Roofing dot com. 1360 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:21.039 You don't pay a cent until you're content. Please time 1361 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:21.359 for an. 1362 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:25.520 Insurance check up free, no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance 1363 01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:28.680 paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies 1364 01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:31.359 find out now three oh three seven seven to one help. 1365 01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.199 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 1366 01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:36.680 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 1367 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.880 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 1368 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:41.119 sixteen twenty two. 1369 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:51.520 Rip you need so you. 1370 01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:52.000 Don't have. 1371 01:09:54.239 --> 01:10:00.600 Come runs as can. Shoot's gonna help come man. 1372 01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:06.560 This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez, Hey. 1373 01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:08.399 Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. 1374 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.319 Three zero three seven one three talk three oh three 1375 01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:13.520 seven one three eight two five to five. And for 1376 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.399 those streaming, there's John and his pretty face he's up 1377 01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.880 and we're talking John Fuller, Fuller Law. He's a personal 1378 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.920 injury attorney in Denver, by the way, and that's Fuller 1379 01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:23.520 Law f. 1380 01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:24.319 U L L E. R. 1381 01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.880 If you google him, he's on UH and when he's 1382 01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:28.600 not here is at three oh three five nine seven 1383 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:31.720 forty five hundred and he he answers a ton of 1384 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:34.600 questions for my listeners on personal injury. I know a 1385 01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:38.000 few times he's gotten calls on consumer issues because he's 1386 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:42.039 so synonymous with the show. But in any case, we 1387 01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:45.720 are here talking about everything. You're near and dear to 1388 01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:49.800 your heart and pocabok. We we've had some issues come 1389 01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:53.920 up in the past about emotional trauma when it comes 1390 01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:57.439 to work or when it comes to other things. John, 1391 01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:03.319 Do do emotional injuries ever enter into or emotional trauma 1392 01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:06.840 into personal injury in accidents of any kind? 1393 01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:09.279 Absolutely? Yeah. 1394 01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:12.119 Give me an example of how that could happen. 1395 01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:14.760 Well, it could be that you you know, we're in 1396 01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.319 a very serious accident and a family member passed away 1397 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:22.640 right next to you, or you know, some people are 1398 01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:26.640 severely traumatized by just the happening of an accident and 1399 01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:31.800 have serious anxiety driving, you know, going forward. 1400 01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.279 As an example. So we deal with those issues all 1401 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:34.640 the time. 1402 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:40.680 Driving cases sometimes are you know, have a significant emotional 1403 01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:43.279 component that we have to you know, we have to 1404 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:46.239 deal with. Fortunately, there are professionals that are really good 1405 01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:50.199 at helping people through those issues, but we frequently have 1406 01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:51.239 to use those people. 1407 01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:53.439 Very interesting. 1408 01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:59.239 So emotional trauma is definitely part of the personal injury picture. 1409 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:01.159 Is what we're talking about basically. 1410 01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:06.720 And what are the more unusual components that would go 1411 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:10.600 into a personal jury? Are there any unusual ones like 1412 01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:17.000 I don't like? For example, John, years ago, I hesitated 1413 01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:19.960 to bring this up. But years ago, I was in 1414 01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:23.760 an accident. There's someone had no insurance this and I 1415 01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:27.880 decided I was going to handle this. This was many, 1416 01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:31.960 many years ago for a personal injury, and I went 1417 01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.199 to my own uninsured motors coverage because the person didn't 1418 01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:38.880 have coverage and they were treating me like the enemy. Now, 1419 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:41.640 I guess I should have hired an attorney looking back, 1420 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:43.960 but I thought, you know, my injuries aren't that bad. 1421 01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:45.880 Let me just get a check, you know. I mean, 1422 01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.399 I'm just telling you what I was thinking, and people 1423 01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:50.760 probably do think that. I don't know, But so I 1424 01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:53.520 was talking to them, and it had to have been John, 1425 01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:55.079 honest to god, forty years ago. 1426 01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.239 Okay, So I remember them offering me. 1427 01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:01.640 A check right away for ten grand and I thought 1428 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:04.840 to myself, my goodness, maybe I can get more. And 1429 01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:07.760 but one of the things then they asked for my 1430 01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:12.279 a list of damages. Now, obviously, you know, I didn't 1431 01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:14.800 know how to handle I knew nothing about this. In fact, 1432 01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.880 at the time, I wasn't even representing a personal injury attorney. 1433 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.399 So I put down as one of my damages a 1434 01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:25.680 vacation I had to cancel and they upped the offer 1435 01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.560 after that, and I was wondering, did I do something 1436 01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:31.039 by Obviously I might have done something by mistake. And 1437 01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.840 I'm not recommending people do this on their own, John, 1438 01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:37.199 I missed vacation that was a damage? 1439 01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:37.439 Or what? 1440 01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:41.720 Did I just luck out there? No, it could be 1441 01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:43.159 a very legitimate damage. 1442 01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:45.880 I mean, you know, people sometimes have to book some 1443 01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.119 of these vacations six months, maybe a year in advance, 1444 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.520 and then you find yourself unable to go on it. 1445 01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:54.359 It's absolutely part of your damages. 1446 01:13:54.640 --> 01:14:00.119 So you know, you can't say vacations you know, in 1447 01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.159 the blank or something, but you know, listen, damages are 1448 01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:06.199 unique to the person, and it may be different from 1449 01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:08.560 you than it would be for me, or for my neighbor, 1450 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.760 or for you know, the guy down the road, for 1451 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:14.720 some guy. It may be I can't you know, I 1452 01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.000 don't have the ability to launch my boat anymore, right, 1453 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:20.920 My My one great joy in life is fishing, and 1454 01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:23.760 I can't you know, I can't get physically into my 1455 01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:27.239 boat anymore to go do that, and I've lost that thing. 1456 01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:29.920 So I worked my entire life. I never thought of 1457 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:33.800 that was retiring and being able to enjoy this particular activity, 1458 01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:35.119 and I can't do it anymore. 1459 01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:35.840 I never thought of that. 1460 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:39.159 So I if I love flying, and and I'm not 1461 01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:41.479 a commercial pilot, I don't make a living at all 1462 01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:43.720 at it. But if I lost my ability to fly 1463 01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.000 because of an accident, that would be a loss because 1464 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:47.680 of enjoyment. 1465 01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:53.800 Absolutely it would a significant Okay, all right, being the 1466 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.800 same could be dropped somebody that can't physically ski or 1467 01:14:57.039 --> 01:15:00.239 ride their bicycle or the horse, you know, right, yeah, yeah, 1468 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.039 absolutely it could. Just there's a thousand things that could 1469 01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.319 fall into that category that it's part of my job 1470 01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:09.600 to help figure out how to quantify and articulate what 1471 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:10.720 those losses. 1472 01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:15.399 Are very very interesting. John Fuller, b let's talk about 1473 01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:15.880 your camper. 1474 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:16.439 What's going on? 1475 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.840 B Okay, So I bought a camper, thank you. I 1476 01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:23.199 bought a camper back in February. We started taking it 1477 01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:26.760 out in me and what kind of camper, by the way, 1478 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.880 it's a fifth Will Grand Design Reflection half ten one. 1479 01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:35.239 They're wonderful. They're really nice. 1480 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:40.600 Yes, And I use the stove for the very first time. 1481 01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.720 It has that glass that smoke glass top. 1482 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.239 Well, when was the first time you used it? 1483 01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:49.239 What month it was? 1484 01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:49.399 Me? 1485 01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:51.079 It's for Mother's Day weekend. 1486 01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:53.960 Okay, And that's when you used it? And what happened? 1487 01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:57.560 And I closed this, I cleaned the stove and I 1488 01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:59.880 want to go close the glass and the hinges for 1489 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.520 that bifolding glass. 1490 01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:04.920 Yeah, yeah, got caught. 1491 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.920 And it hit something and it just shattered all over. 1492 01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:11.520 And even to this day it shattered so much that 1493 01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.560 even to this day when we moved the camper, like 1494 01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:15.520 when we were taking. 1495 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:17.800 It out now, it did it shatter because of something 1496 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:20.840 you did wrong? Would they say or is it a 1497 01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:24.119 warranty issue? That's the part I don't know tell me about. 1498 01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:28.199 They said it's under warranty and The thing is is 1499 01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:31.960 that the hinges got stuck. How they got stuck, I 1500 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:32.840 have no idea what. 1501 01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:35.680 Okay, it was a glass. It was a glass cover 1502 01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:38.600 that you fold out over the cook top. 1503 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:42.399 Right, yes, yep, I know what you're talking about in 1504 01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:47.159 an RV. So that that got stuck somehow and shattered. 1505 01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:48.960 And okay, so did they fix it? 1506 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:53.000 No, the hinges you can even till today, those hinges 1507 01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:55.359 are still stuck. The glass is completely gone. We cleaned 1508 01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:57.800 it all up. But my biggest concern is not about 1509 01:16:57.800 --> 01:16:59.439 the glass. I could care less if they put the 1510 01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:03.439 glass back on. My biggest concern is that the glass 1511 01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:08.000 fell into the oven from the openings on the glass top. Yeah, 1512 01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:12.279 because it's not completely stilled. So if you open that 1513 01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:16.000 oven to this day, you'll steal from when we moved 1514 01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:20.000 a camper, I still find glass particles in that oven. 1515 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:21.960 And I'm afraid to use the oven. And I've asked 1516 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:22.239 him that. 1517 01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:23.319 Hay, So what do you want? 1518 01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:24.840 You want? You want it replaced? 1519 01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:25.920 Yes? 1520 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:28.039 For safety issues in this John, What do you. 1521 01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:28.640 Think about that? 1522 01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:31.479 I mean, it wasn't the oven that was malfunctioned, and 1523 01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:34.239 and it was the cook Now is this a one 1524 01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:38.279 unit that the cook top and the oven together. Yes, 1525 01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:41.760 what do you think of the argument that now I 1526 01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:43.920 can't use it because there are shards in there? 1527 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:48.920 Was that the type of glass man that breaks into 1528 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:50.039 a million little pieces? 1529 01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:52.600 It's like, yeah, tempered glass. 1530 01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:53.920 Yeah, yeah, of course it is. 1531 01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:54.920 Yep yep, yup. 1532 01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.359 So that's the type of glass. It's probably not very 1533 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:02.359 likely to to cut you if you stepped on it 1534 01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:02.800 or something. 1535 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:03.680 But what if you ate it? 1536 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:06.840 What have you ingested? A few parts of it? Would? 1537 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:09.479 Tiny pieces of it? Is that what you're afraid of? 1538 01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:09.720 Bee? 1539 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:11.479 That is going to get into your food somehow? 1540 01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.319 Yes, that's my Yeah, that's my fear. It's a safety thing. 1541 01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.039 I'm like, who wants Did they at least. 1542 01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:18.960 Offer to cleaner? Did they at least offer to. 1543 01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:19.640 Clean for you? 1544 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:23.119 Be? Yes, they said they'll clean it now the kindness 1545 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:25.239 of their hearts, they're going to replace the glass, And 1546 01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:26.119 I'm like, the. 1547 01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:27.920 Glass is not my problem. 1548 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:32.840 An argument, you're not. I don't think you're going to 1549 01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:36.159 win the argument for replacing the oven. I don't think 1550 01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:39.760 you are. It's not a defect. I know what you're saying. 1551 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:42.520 The defect of the glass of the of the hinge 1552 01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:45.279 caused the glass, then the glass went into. 1553 01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:49.119 The oven, and yeah, I it would be this. I 1554 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:51.439 just don't think it's go ahead. 1555 01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:55.239 John, Yeah, So if I understand the glasses around the 1556 01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:59.159 outside of the shroud of the oven and when you 1557 01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:01.680 go down the road said shaking and stuff, that allows 1558 01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:04.439 another piece or two to fall into the the main 1559 01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:05.119 part of the oven. 1560 01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:05.680 Is that right? 1561 01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:08.399 Yes? For ye? 1562 01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:12.520 Okay, because it wasn't because because it broken right. Well, 1563 01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.640 I want to know something though, when that broke, when 1564 01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:19.199 that glass cover broke and it shattered, are there still 1565 01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:22.159 pieces on top of the near the cook top as well? 1566 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:24.960 Oh yeah, it listens up. 1567 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:28.000 Have it professionally cleaned or detailed. 1568 01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:32.039 That's what they said that they'll do. And I'm just 1569 01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:33.479 like as long, I'm just. 1570 01:19:34.600 --> 01:19:36.640 Worried about you know, my daughter's car. 1571 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.640 Just my daughter's car just recently, just recently was part 1572 01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:42.319 somewhere a few months ago. 1573 01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:44.920 It's being fixed right now. Let me explain this to you. 1574 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:46.199 A roofer. 1575 01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:51.079 Dropped something on her windshield, went through her dash, destroyed 1576 01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:54.880 her cluster there and her dash and her the bar 1577 01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.239 on her uh that that the on her windshield what 1578 01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:01.279 they call the I don't know, it's port beam anyway, 1579 01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:03.840 all of that. So it's all being repaired and there 1580 01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:08.399 were shards of glass all over and they immediately the 1581 01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:13.239 roofing company had the windshield replaced immediately temporarily and said, 1582 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:15.199 of course we're going to pay for this. And then 1583 01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:21.800 here's what happened. We hired o C Detailing. It's a 1584 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:24.319 young man and his brother and some people. 1585 01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:24.720 He knows. 1586 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:28.239 They have this detailed company. They're not on the referral 1587 01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:30.720 list yet. I gotta get him on there. They went 1588 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:35.039 and cleaned because of this and got every spec I 1589 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:35.680 don't know how. 1590 01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:38.000 I mean, these detailers are really good. 1591 01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:41.000 I don't know who your dealer? Who are they proposing? 1592 01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:44.560 Do they say they have a detailer bee, No. 1593 01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.520 It's their own service department that's going to clean it. 1594 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:53.279 Would they pay for a detail of that area? 1595 01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:55.720 Maybe you get a detailed and then they'll pay for 1596 01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:58.239 that one air or a chip in for you. I mean, 1597 01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:00.359 look at you can do whatever you want. You can 1598 01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:02.279 have them do it. Maybe they'll do a great job. 1599 01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:05.560 I think they probably would. Who's the dealer. 1600 01:21:07.199 --> 01:21:10.560 Compass Blue Compass RV in Colorado Springs. 1601 01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:13.640 I don't know them, but the fact that I don't 1602 01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:15.640 know them is probably good. I've never heard of them. 1603 01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:19.359 You may want to give them a chance, see what happens. 1604 01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:21.319 And then once you give them a chance, say look, 1605 01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:24.199 if this doesn't work, you know, then you you talk 1606 01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:28.199 about getting another detailer or something. But I would probably 1607 01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:32.520 I would give them the chance first. Then I think 1608 01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:35.880 you'd even have a better argument. If even they couldn't 1609 01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:38.399 get it out, then then you would have a better 1610 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:40.760 argument for replacement. But I don't think you're going to 1611 01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:43.520 go right for replacement. John, would you agree on that? 1612 01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:45.479 Totally agree? 1613 01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:50.760 Yeah, give them advant just let us know and then 1614 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:53.800 we'll we'll help you, Okay. Three oh three seven one 1615 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.680 three talks seven one three eight two five five. So 1616 01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:58.920 we have more coming up, Larry, I'm going to talk 1617 01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:02.479 about that toll road violation a lot of people are 1618 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:05.640 getting them, and then go fund me question from Drew. 1619 01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:07.960 We all know Drew, if you've been listening to this show, 1620 01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:10.680 I've been trying to help him. 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You'll think you're his only customer when you 1641 01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:22.680 choose Frank durand the Real estate Man dot com to 1642 01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:25.960 list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine 1643 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:31.760 two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here, Welcome 1644 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:34.520 to the show. Three O three seven one three talk 1645 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:37.439 three oh three seven one three eight two five five. Okay, 1646 01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:41.079 So Larry, you want to talk about a toll roll violation. 1647 01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:43.680 There are several of them we can talk about. People 1648 01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:46.840 are complaining about them. I get them every month. What's 1649 01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:48.800 going on? I mean, I don't get the violations, I 1650 01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.600 get the inquiries. What's happening, sir. 1651 01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:57.279 Hi com Hey, there's there's no doubt about it. It's 1652 01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:00.880 it's my trunk. There's a picture there on the violation 1653 01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:07.479 that I got, but on the date of the violation, 1654 01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:13.279 because there's a daytime stamp on there that my daughter 1655 01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:17.560 has the car a big boulder. She goes to school 1656 01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:20.920 up there, and so I asked her, I said, well, 1657 01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:23.800 did you cross over to the express? 1658 01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:24.119 Lad? 1659 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:26.880 She said, I don't know. It could have been one 1660 01:24:26.920 --> 01:24:28.720 of my friends who I've left the car to. 1661 01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:30.840 Oh yeah, yeah. 1662 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:32.600 Where do I stand here? 1663 01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:38.600 Well, it's a violation, I mean, first of all, it's 1664 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:42.520 an accusation, so you don't have to pay it and 1665 01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:45.279 then you go to court, but you don't have to 1666 01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:49.800 like to stand on these cameras. Look, I don't understand. 1667 01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:52.600 I guess I don't even understand what you're asking. Are 1668 01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:55.359 you saying? Because you were not driving, you should not 1669 01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:59.399 have to pay. Yes, that's true if it's issue right, 1670 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.760 but it is your vehicle. I believe tolls are assessed 1671 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:06.479 on the vehicle, not on the person. However, you're the 1672 01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:09.960 one who made the violation, John, John Fuller, am I 1673 01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:13.199 right on that. We've had this argument before. When you 1674 01:25:13.319 --> 01:25:16.000 get a violation for the toll, it's not you can't 1675 01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:21.479 violate a car. The car is evidence against the driver. So, Larry, 1676 01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:24.880 you could say this was not me driving, Okay, then 1677 01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:27.039 they're going to ask you who was driving? 1678 01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.760 Now does it show the driver in your truck? 1679 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.239 No, it just shows the back end of my truck 1680 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.479 and the license plate number. 1681 01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:43.840 Well, how would you handle this, John? 1682 01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:45.439 There's a procedure. 1683 01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:49.079 Well, I just pay them because I'm normally guilty of 1684 01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:53.199 them when I get those tickets in the mail. But 1685 01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:55.680 there is a procedure on those tickets that tell you 1686 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.079 how you can appeal and you know, challenge the ticket, 1687 01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:01.720 and that is the only way you can do it. 1688 01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:04.159 And so you just have to assess, you know, is 1689 01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:07.359 there any likelihood that that process is going to give 1690 01:26:07.399 --> 01:26:09.720 me the ability to argue it. It's not like the 1691 01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:13.600 red light cameras in Denver that you can, you know, 1692 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.319 ignore they want to conserve you in person. 1693 01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:18.319 It's a different creature. 1694 01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:22.079 And since it's a private road and it's a privately 1695 01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:26.720 maintained section most of the time or at least some 1696 01:26:26.840 --> 01:26:30.479 of the times, there's private end there's public, you know, 1697 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:32.359 you really don't have a leg to stand on. And 1698 01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.359 the only thing that amazes me is how dang good 1699 01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:39.399 they are catching, like fourteen different angles of my vehicle 1700 01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:43.079 crossing the line early or late or something else. And 1701 01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:48.279 so normally it's not just one pictures. It's pretty compelling evidence. 1702 01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:57.000 So I'm not saying that v car crossed over to 1703 01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:06.319 the expressway. I'm saying, why should I pay when, well, no. 1704 01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:10.119 It's issued to the registered owner. You're right, why should 1705 01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:13.439 you pay it? Ask your daughter to pay it? You 1706 01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:15.439 hit it right on the head. You know your daughter 1707 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:16.920 had the vehicle. Make her pay it. 1708 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:18.319 Okay. 1709 01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:21.119 If you truly are caring about right, hold on, you're 1710 01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:25.399 caring about technicalities and right and wrong. So the technicality 1711 01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:28.399 is your daughter was driving, so tell her to pay you. 1712 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:32.840 That's the technical right thing to do. Now, if you're saying, 1713 01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:35.119 how do I trick them and make them. 1714 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:35.920 Go after my daughter. 1715 01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:40.279 Well, okay, if they ask you, if you say to 1716 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.199 them I was not driving. And by the way I'm 1717 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:46.000 looking at it at some of the past cases, if 1718 01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:49.479 your daughter was the one driving, then you can contest 1719 01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:54.119 it by submitting a transfer of viability. If not, they're 1720 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:56.560 going to say was the car stolen and was it 1721 01:27:56.800 --> 01:28:00.439 reported stolen? So you're between a rock and a heart place. 1722 01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:05.279 Okay, because they are found that eventually they can cancel 1723 01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:07.239 the renewal of your vehicle. 1724 01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:11.600 You can't reregister your vehicle once it expires. Yeah, but 1725 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.720 hold on by the short hairs there. 1726 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:16.479 Not if you that's if you ignore it, John, you 1727 01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:20.039 can do a transfer of liability. If you do a 1728 01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:23.760 transfer of liability, you have to transfer to somebody. So 1729 01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:26.319 if you say you don't know who was driving your car, 1730 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:29.880 then you're going to be taking then okay, then you're 1731 01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:32.079 going to be taken to court and be held responsible 1732 01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:34.560 because if you can't say who is driving the car, 1733 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:37.640 then you're going to get the ticket or you're going 1734 01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:38.720 to have to report your car. 1735 01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.520 Your car would have had to have been reported stolen. 1736 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:43.279 Do you really want to go through all of that? 1737 01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:49.039 No, I mean, I'm just it's just a simple question. 1738 01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:50.720 I mean, well, the. 1739 01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:54.239 Simple question is that you're responsible if you were driving. 1740 01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:57.720 If you weren't, then you tell them you weren't driving, 1741 01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:01.840 and you must transfer responsibilit to who was driving. If 1742 01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:04.279 you don't know who was driving, it means your car 1743 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:07.840 was stolen. So you have three options. You take responsibility, 1744 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:10.079 or you lay it on the person who was driving, 1745 01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:14.399 or you report or you hope that you had reporting 1746 01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:17.039 it stolen, or you just discovered it was stolen. 1747 01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:23.159 That's those are your options. Truly, A right fine, I mean, 1748 01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:26.520 that's that's okay. I mean that that is the answer. 1749 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:29.359 That is the answer, And a lot of. 1750 01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:32.000 People don't like the answer because here's what they want 1751 01:29:32.039 --> 01:29:34.520 to hear me say, Oh, if you weren't driving, you 1752 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:37.680 don't have to pay. And by the way, you don't 1753 01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:40.039 have to tell them your daughter was driving either, of 1754 01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:43.079 course you don't. Then you pay the consequences. How far 1755 01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:45.800 will they take it, I don't really know. Maybe they 1756 01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:50.159 drop it, you know, maybe they do I you know, 1757 01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:52.840 I I kind of know where you're going with it. 1758 01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:56.600 And I think most people agree with you saying, Tom, 1759 01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:57.560 I don't know. 1760 01:29:57.720 --> 01:29:59.439 If I wasn't driving, I wouldn't pay it. 1761 01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:01.960 So I can't tell you what to do. I'm just 1762 01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:07.760 I'm just basically telling you what I think will happen. 1763 01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:10.960 Three three seven, one three eight two five five. Dave 1764 01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:15.680 you have a comment on mental health because I asked 1765 01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:19.239 even on my YouTube channel, I asked the question in 1766 01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:25.239 the comments, how many people, in the beginning of our 1767 01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:31.000 conversations with people who have had emotional distress know someone 1768 01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:32.319 is suffering from paranoia? 1769 01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:33.840 Because I'm going to tell you something. 1770 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:36.600 Thirty or more times over the years, Oh, it has 1771 01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:37.720 to be probably more. 1772 01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:41.399 This year alone, I've had six cases where people call 1773 01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:46.239 and someone is either breaking into their home, spying on them, 1774 01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:51.520 rearranging things in their house, stealing stuff, doing something to 1775 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:56.239 their car, cheating them, listening into their phone calls, or 1776 01:30:56.479 --> 01:31:01.399 some other form of that. And it usually follows you 1777 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:03.479 hear me on the phone. Many of you who follow 1778 01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:07.520 the show regularly, you hear me on the show. Ask 1779 01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:11.279 them some questions, like at around the time these first 1780 01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:15.239 this first started, were you did anything happen in your 1781 01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:19.920 life that was significant a stressor? And inevitably you'll hear 1782 01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:23.800 a divorce, a crime, a victim of a crime, or 1783 01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:26.840 somebody close to them died, a child or their spouse, 1784 01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:31.600 and on and on and on. So I've connected them 1785 01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.600 that these stressors may cause this paranoia. 1786 01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:35.159 I don't know. 1787 01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:37.800 I'm not a mental health professional, but I've talked to 1788 01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:39.760 enough people over the years. Dave, what about you? 1789 01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:44.960 Hey, Tom, it does seem like it's mental health Day, 1790 01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:45.439 doesn't it? 1791 01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:46.920 Yes, it does. 1792 01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:48.600 So. 1793 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:53.680 I an agency that I'm associated with called Revolt Healthcare Alliance. 1794 01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:58.720 We saw a private PPO plan in thirty nited States. 1795 01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:02.640 Unfortunately it's not available in Colorado. However, we have put 1796 01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:07.359 together what is called the Revolt Healthcare Network, and this 1797 01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:12.880 is a subscription platform that can be used anywhere in 1798 01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:17.600 the country and it includes twenty four hours, seven day 1799 01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:25.039 a week virtual primary care and virtual telecounseling. It also 1800 01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:32.079 provides quest Labs at no charge, four thousand generic description 1801 01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:34.159 medications at cost. 1802 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:38.640 So it's not just mental health, is what you're saying, right. 1803 01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:42.760 But for thirty six dollars a month for an individual, 1804 01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:51.800 they can have qualified accredited counselors, therapists, psychologists at the 1805 01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:55.960 other side of their phone or online today, making. 1806 01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:59.960 This PPO plan in general is not available in Colorado's 1807 01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:00.600 what you're saying. 1808 01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:06.760 Yes, that's the insurance side. The Revolt Health Network is 1809 01:33:07.039 --> 01:33:09.760 not an insurance product. It's a subscription product. 1810 01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:11.359 And that's for how much. 1811 01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:15.159 It starts out at thirty six dollars a month for 1812 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:15.920 an individual. 1813 01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:18.720 And does that get you more than mental health? Does 1814 01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:20.840 it get you consultations with mds? 1815 01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:25.640 Yes, it does. Virtual primary care So if someone I 1816 01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:26.920 get it, I get it. 1817 01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:27.680 Someone has it. 1818 01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:28.479 If they have a. 1819 01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:34.239 Telecounseling or a teledoc appointment and they like that doctor, yes, 1820 01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:38.079 reschedule with that doctor, which is unusual with teledoct. 1821 01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:42.000 Now I have a teledoct, I have a virtual primary care. 1822 01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:45.159 I have both. But the virtual primary care is three 1823 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:49.199 hundred a year and it allows me to get an 1824 01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:52.720 appointment anytime and well not anytime. I have to schedule it. 1825 01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:55.520 And I can do a zoom or I can go 1826 01:33:55.720 --> 01:34:00.199 into the clinic. So it provides both. But this can 1827 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:05.880 this virtual primary care that you represent, Can that take 1828 01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:08.800 the place for insurance reasons for a primary care doc? 1829 01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:10.640 Sure? 1830 01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:14.119 Yeah, anybody can use it, anybody that's on even people 1831 01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:17.640 on Medicare. But it's an affordable way. I get it 1832 01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.479 being able to take care of some healthcare issues. 1833 01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:23.640 And it is now if someone though, if someone has 1834 01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:28.800 this program, this subscription, and they need something more than 1835 01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:31.239 they can offer. Do they refer you to people that 1836 01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:34.079 you're that your health insurance will now cover or not? 1837 01:34:35.479 --> 01:34:38.760 They they may, yes, they could absolutely. 1838 01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:39.960 What's the name of it? 1839 01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:44.680 This is called Revolt Healthcare Network. 1840 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:48.399 Are you saying Revolt as in revolution right? 1841 01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:49.199 Exactly? 1842 01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:51.159 Yeah, that's a weird name. 1843 01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:55.359 Well, we're we kind of are changing the way that. 1844 01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:01.840 You know, the medical industry, the pharmaceutical industry. Uh, you know, 1845 01:35:02.439 --> 01:35:07.960 uh government, the healthcare industry is so convoluted and and 1846 01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:12.720 it's just horrible. So I don't want to go farther 1847 01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:18.359 into that. But with this program, this subscription program, you 1848 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.840 have access to over four thousand generic prescriptions. 1849 01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:23.000 I get it. I get it. 1850 01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:24.720 I I love I love what you're saying. 1851 01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:27.600 Hey, Dave, I'm gonna I gotta, I gotta cut the call. 1852 01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:30.880 I need to do this. Uh Kaschina. Give them my 1853 01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:33.520 email address. Please give him my email address. I want 1854 01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:35.479 him to send me information. I'm Tom Martinez. We have 1855 01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:42.840 more coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best 1856 01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:44.760 roofer excel roofing dot com. 1857 01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:50.640 You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for 1858 01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:51.520 an insurance check. 1859 01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:55.600 Up free no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too 1860 01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:58.720 much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out 1861 01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:01.279 now three oh three seven seven to one help. You'll 1862 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:04.079 think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand 1863 01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:06.479 the real estate Man dot com to list your home 1864 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:09.880 with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen 1865 01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:16.479 twenty two, Tino here three all three seven one three 1866 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:19.520 talk three oh three seven one three eight two five five. 1867 01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:23.199 Welcome to the show, back to the phones to uh 1868 01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:26.159 take your problems, questions and complaints. Oh the guy that 1869 01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:28.640 one guy had a question he dropped off against. Okay, 1870 01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:32.720 in any case, welcome and let's talk. 1871 01:36:32.840 --> 01:36:33.039 Drew. 1872 01:36:34.279 --> 01:36:37.840 I emailed you a revision of your go fundme. 1873 01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:41.079 Description to help you get a better description up there 1874 01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:44.119 for your go fund me page because you're facing financial 1875 01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:47.119 devastation in a month or less. 1876 01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:48.239 Did you get it? 1877 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:48.520 Drew? 1878 01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:53.199 I haven't been able to get to the library, but 1879 01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:55.359 I will go and check and I want to say tuesday. 1880 01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:57.000 Wait, wait, wait, so you have to go to the 1881 01:36:57.119 --> 01:36:58.720 library to check your email. 1882 01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:01.600 Yeah, you don't have a computer. 1883 01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:06.199 I don't have a computer's cell phone texting device what are. 1884 01:37:06.159 --> 01:37:07.199 You calling on right now? 1885 01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:09.439 It's my home phone? 1886 01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:12.960 Your home is that? Is that New York Bell? Or 1887 01:37:13.479 --> 01:37:14.720 where is it New Jersey Bell? 1888 01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:15.159 What is it? 1889 01:37:16.119 --> 01:37:17.199 I pay Verizon? 1890 01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:18.039 Uh huh. 1891 01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:21.960 So you don't have a cell phone, you don't have email. 1892 01:37:22.199 --> 01:37:23.159 I mean you have nothing. 1893 01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:28.000 That's correct. But I want to say this. Your idea 1894 01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:30.680 is good. It's a very good idea. Thank you for 1895 01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:34.359 sending us there. However, I'd like to suggest that we 1896 01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.239 wait on that for a couple of weeks and do 1897 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:41.079 what mark into a mark to leave is there? I 1898 01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:43.960 think if I don't know how to do this, but 1899 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:48.159 if you could possibly send my GoFundMe to Elon Musk 1900 01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:51.520 and Fox News, maybe they might want to put on 1901 01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:56.000 somebody who can actually state how Kamala Harris is harming 1902 01:37:56.079 --> 01:38:00.439 me and letting all these fifteen millions drew. 1903 01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.640 They're not going to do that because your problems aren't 1904 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:09.119 because of your problems do not stem from illegal aliens 1905 01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.840 okay or illegal whatever, undocumented people. It doesn't, it doesn't. 1906 01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:19.279 Your gofund me is disingenuous. Kamala Harris has nothing to 1907 01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:21.079 do with your financial plight right now? 1908 01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:24.119 Well, I disagree, And it was on Fox Drew. 1909 01:38:24.680 --> 01:38:26.520 Drew, here's what I'm saying. Tell me this. 1910 01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:32.239 Tell me how their policy on illegal immigration has affected 1911 01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:36.279 you directly and why why you are facing your financial 1912 01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:37.439 devastation right now? 1913 01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:37.840 Tell me. 1914 01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:39.960 I want to know why a. 1915 01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:43.560 Black man was on Fox saying this. I forgot his name. 1916 01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:46.479 Is a very good speaker, sports guy, and he says 1917 01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:49.760 they're wondering why the black brothers are leaving Kamala, she's 1918 01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:52.359 giving free rent to all these illegals. 1919 01:38:52.479 --> 01:38:54.000 Drew, I'm going to ask you a question. 1920 01:38:54.079 --> 01:38:57.039 See, I don't let I don't let people just just 1921 01:38:57.399 --> 01:39:01.039 go out the mouth and pontificate without facts. Here's what 1922 01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:04.840 I want to know. You have gone through your life savings. 1923 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:07.840 You no longer can make a living. You didn't prepare 1924 01:39:07.960 --> 01:39:11.119 for your older age. You're seventy seven years old, and 1925 01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:14.520 you cannot stay where you are because the cost of 1926 01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:17.199 living is so high in New Jersey. Now here's what 1927 01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:22.279 I'm saying. You get a pension and you get social Security. Right, Okay, 1928 01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:24.960 you have those two things, but they're not enough to 1929 01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:27.960 sustain you. You were not able to work or make 1930 01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:30.319 a living because you say you were injured in a 1931 01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:34.640 personal injury accident. You walked into the you walked underneath 1932 01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:36.680 the tailgate that came down on you from a car. 1933 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:39.760 All I want to know is how did Kamala Harris 1934 01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:42.159 or Joe Biden contribute to that? 1935 01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:42.840 For you? 1936 01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:46.520 I think it's the constitution, says Okay Drew. 1937 01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:49.199 I'm going to ask you again, not about the constitution. 1938 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:55.239 How did your financial plight get caused by the current administration? 1939 01:39:55.800 --> 01:40:00.279 And if there was not one illegal immigrant in the country. 1940 01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:05.680 You still would not have qualified for public assistance. 1941 01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:09.479 If there was not one illegal alien, the rents would 1942 01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:13.880 be much lower because these millions of illegal aliens are 1943 01:40:13.960 --> 01:40:15.920 getting subsidized. 1944 01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:16.960 By Okay Drew, guess what, Drew? 1945 01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:17.800 You know what? 1946 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:21.359 You need to find someone who agrees with you and 1947 01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:24.880 will carry your flag. I don't care what Mark suggested. 1948 01:40:25.359 --> 01:40:29.000 You're doing yourself a disservice by having the go fund 1949 01:40:29.119 --> 01:40:32.159 me the way it is now, and the proof is 1950 01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:34.760 in the pudding. If it appealed to people, Guess what 1951 01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:37.800 would have happened. You would have gotten people to contribute 1952 01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:38.000 to you. 1953 01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:39.640 You have gotten one. 1954 01:40:39.560 --> 01:40:43.640 Listener, Tom is, if you're right, can you please just 1955 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:44.399 send it to one? 1956 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:47.439 No, No, I'm not going to you send it to them. 1957 01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:50.439 Have your librarian friends. No, I'm not going to carry 1958 01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:53.000 your water. I'm not going to send I'm not going 1959 01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:56.800 to send your GoFundMe link to Fox News and Elon 1960 01:40:57.119 --> 01:41:00.680 Musk and spoil my credibility and say here, look at this. 1961 01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:04.880 This poor guy is suffering because of illegal immigration. It's 1962 01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:08.119 not true. You're trying to make a connection just to 1963 01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:11.039 try to get the political fervor you need for people 1964 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.159 to send you money, and you're not gonna do it 1965 01:41:13.279 --> 01:41:16.920 through me. Goodbye, Drew. Sorry, I'm not doing it. Three 1966 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:19.760 zero three seven one three talk seven one three eight 1967 01:41:19.800 --> 01:41:23.840 two five five. Do I believe the illegal immigration policy 1968 01:41:23.960 --> 01:41:26.279 of the Biden administration is causing people harm? 1969 01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:26.880 Yes? 1970 01:41:27.199 --> 01:41:30.760 I do. Do I believe it's fullhardy, Yes I do. 1971 01:41:31.239 --> 01:41:33.720 Do I believe we have to have restrictions at the 1972 01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:38.039 border and a sane immigration policy, Yes I do. Do 1973 01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:41.439 I believe it's affecting the tax rates, Yes I do. 1974 01:41:41.960 --> 01:41:45.199 Do I believe it's affecting FEMA, Yes I do. Do 1975 01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:47.399 I believe it caused Drew's problem? 1976 01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:51.359 No I don't. I'm Tom Martine Moore coming. 1977 01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:59.880 Up go with a sure thing Denver's best rufer excel 1978 01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:00.920 roofing dot Com. 1979 01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:02.840 You don't pay a cent until you're. 1980 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:08.960 Contenth time for an insurance check up free no obligation 1981 01:42:09.119 --> 01:42:12.960 comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at 1982 01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:14.359 dozens of insurance companies. 1983 01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:16.520 Find out now three oh three seven to seven to 1984 01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:17.039 one help. 1985 01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:19.880 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 1986 01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:22.359 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 1987 01:42:22.439 --> 01:42:25.560 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 1988 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:36.960 sixteen twenty two. Hello Tom Martino, you're Troubleshooter three O 1989 01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:41.319 three seven one three talk three O three seven one three. 1990 01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:42.479 Eight two five five. 1991 01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:46.479 Okay, Now it's also three oh three Martino three oh 1992 01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:47.960 three sixty seventy four sixty six. 1993 01:42:48.079 --> 01:42:48.439 Melissa. 1994 01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:50.520 We're running out of time, but you have a two 1995 01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:57.399 thousand and five Toyota sole, right, Melissa, I'm just gonna 1996 01:42:57.439 --> 01:42:58.279 have to wait, Melissa. 1997 01:42:58.279 --> 01:42:59.439 I'll take you right after the break. 1998 01:42:59.520 --> 01:43:02.680 Deputy also has a follow up, and Deputy d has 1999 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:05.000 a follow up, so we'll talk about that and more 2000 01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:06.560 coming up on the Troubleshooter Show. 2001 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:08.399 Three oh three seven one three h two. 2002 01:43:08.319 --> 01:43:09.000 Five five. 2003 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:22.000 Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing 2004 01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:22.800 dot com you. 2005 01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:24.720 Don't pay a cent until you're content. 2006 01:43:28.119 --> 01:43:31.640 Time for an insurance checkup free no obligation comparison call 2007 01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:35.039 Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of 2008 01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:38.079 insurance companies. 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I'm getting your text. 2021 01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:27.359 I am getting your message on the iHeart iHeart app 2022 01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:30.880 and from our downloaded podcast and also our YouTube channel 2023 01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:33.039 and on the YouTube channel. I'm gonna put something up 2024 01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:34.880 right now. I want your opinion on. I'm just gonna 2025 01:44:34.960 --> 01:44:36.920 leave it there for a few minutes. I want you 2026 01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:38.840 to look at it my YouTube morans, Please tell me 2027 01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:41.399 what you think. Three oh three seven one three talk 2028 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:43.399 three all three seven one three A two five five. 2029 01:44:43.439 --> 01:44:46.319 I want to know if you get it anyway, So 2030 01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:49.199 that's kind of a local flavor for Denver. I put 2031 01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:50.960 it up there. But I'm gonna take a phone call 2032 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:57.760 right now from Melissa. Melissa has an oil change situation. Melissa, 2033 01:44:57.800 --> 01:44:58.359 what's going on? 2034 01:44:59.239 --> 01:44:59.920 By the thank you? 2035 01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:03.279 Yeah, I had an oil change performed. This was not 2036 01:45:03.399 --> 01:45:06.439 my regular mechanic, but they happily did it. 2037 01:45:07.079 --> 01:45:10.640 And then driving what did you have the oil change on? 2038 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:14.199 Let me see, it was the two thousand and five Toyota, yes, correct, 2039 01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:16.239 And how many miles on. 2040 01:45:16.319 --> 01:45:19.039 That at the time that we went in there was 2041 01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:20.159 one hundred and ninety seven. 2042 01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:22.720 Oh my gosh, one hundred and ninety seven. 2043 01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:24.319 Whoo yeah, okay, and. 2044 01:45:24.560 --> 01:45:28.119 It's a wonderful car. Anyway, they did not put the 2045 01:45:28.239 --> 01:45:32.319 right oil filter in and so I of course had 2046 01:45:32.479 --> 01:45:35.520 oil all over and that was in the middle of 2047 01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:43.119 driving and anyway, so they're not I know, God, and 2048 01:45:43.239 --> 01:45:44.359 the receipt. 2049 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:47.359 What was the result of the wrong oil filter? Did 2050 01:45:47.439 --> 01:45:48.600 your engine sees. 2051 01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:52.199 Well, I'm not sure if i'd call it that, but 2052 01:45:52.279 --> 01:45:53.880 I mean I had to get a tow truck in 2053 01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:54.760 the coffe No, no, I. 2054 01:45:54.800 --> 01:45:56.000 Mean, what's wrong with it right now? 2055 01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:57.159 What's wrong with it right now? 2056 01:45:57.800 --> 01:45:58.039 Well? 2057 01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:02.199 I had another and try to help fix it a 2058 01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:05.359 little bit, and he put in a correct oil filter. 2059 01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:09.319 And so now we're just kind of on pins and needles, 2060 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:10.439 because what does it run? 2061 01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:11.239 Does it run? 2062 01:46:12.439 --> 01:46:16.600 It ran for about one hundred feet then and a 2063 01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:19.840 check engine light came on and I was larry. 2064 01:46:19.600 --> 01:46:20.720 To drive it further. 2065 01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:26.439 This is after it was fixed, well fixed as in 2066 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:29.000 the oil part was Melissa. 2067 01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:32.960 Here's what I'm asking When you drove away, who did 2068 01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:35.079 the oil change where they put the wrong filter on? 2069 01:46:36.399 --> 01:46:40.800 You want the name of the company, Yeah, Littleton Auto Repair. 2070 01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:44.439 Okay, So so when you drove away from that place 2071 01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:48.159 it what were the symptoms when you drove away? 2072 01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:50.359 No, it was fine for a while. 2073 01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:51.920 It was fine for how long? 2074 01:46:52.319 --> 01:46:54.039 For how eight weeks? 2075 01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:55.000 Oh? 2076 01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:56.640 Okay, I drive? 2077 01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:00.800 Okay? Eight weeks later? What happened eight weeks later? Just 2078 01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:02.079 tell me what happened eight weeks later? 2079 01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:05.520 All power was gone, couldn't drive. It didn't have power 2080 01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:07.640 steering to make the corner off of Wadsworth. 2081 01:47:07.880 --> 01:47:10.479 Wait wait, wait, you didn't have power steering, but the 2082 01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:11.399 engine was running? 2083 01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:14.479 No, no, nothing, nothing, Okay, So you were. 2084 01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:19.159 Driving along and it stopped eight weeks later, correct, Okay, 2085 01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:22.000 And that's when you called this other place. 2086 01:47:22.039 --> 01:47:23.439 Who'd you call to fix it? 2087 01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:25.119 Oh? 2088 01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:28.560 The other the other mechanic that came in was a friend, 2089 01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:31.520 thirty year mechanic for a utility company in town. 2090 01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:32.159 Okay. 2091 01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:35.319 Took it to a friend mechanic, right, and then and 2092 01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:36.279 then he fixed it. 2093 01:47:37.119 --> 01:47:39.359 Well, he changed the one. He just took a look 2094 01:47:39.399 --> 01:47:41.399 at the oil filter and all that kind of did. 2095 01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:42.000 It once over? 2096 01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:44.279 Did he changed the oil filter? 2097 01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:45.279 Correct? 2098 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:48.439 Yes, he did, Okay, put the correct oil filter on. 2099 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:50.399 Then how long did it run after that? 2100 01:47:51.159 --> 01:47:51.720 It hasn't. 2101 01:47:52.760 --> 01:47:54.479 That's when it's it pooped out. 2102 01:47:55.319 --> 01:48:00.840 Well, No, it pooped out Friday night when every light 2103 01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:01.960 on the dashboard lit. 2104 01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:02.840 Up and I had nothing. 2105 01:48:03.319 --> 01:48:04.039 I'm confused. 2106 01:48:04.560 --> 01:48:07.840 Your friend the mechanic put the right oil filter on, 2107 01:48:08.199 --> 01:48:10.560 and you said it did not run, but it did 2108 01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:11.640 run for a while. 2109 01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:18.399 Well, no, because I had it towed back home and 2110 01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:21.199 he just did what he could do with. 2111 01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:22.119 The I get it. 2112 01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:26.800 When did it fail after the correct oil filter the 2113 01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:28.560 first time you tried to drive it? 2114 01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:31.640 Yeah, the check engine light came in. 2115 01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:35.079 The very first time, so it never ran again. Is 2116 01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:38.239 what we're saying correct, Okay, I. 2117 01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:40.319 Mean it might have. It's just that I was afraid 2118 01:48:40.359 --> 01:48:42.600 to drive it with the check engine light on since 2119 01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:43.119 I got. 2120 01:48:43.119 --> 01:48:45.800 Right now, if you okay, if you tried to drive 2121 01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:47.760 it with the check engine light, would it drive? 2122 01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:53.760 I don't know, okay, Okay, I turned right around. 2123 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:54.159 All right. 2124 01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:56.880 So let's just go to the worst case scenario. 2125 01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:59.600 Okay, And again, I don't want you to hate me, 2126 01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:03.359 but you're going to I know, no, no, no, I'm 2127 01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:06.640 going to tell you the legal what will happen. John 2128 01:49:06.720 --> 01:49:09.159 Fuller is an attorney. He's I should bring him up 2129 01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:11.520 right now. By the way, John Fuller, Fuller Law. He 2130 01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:14.640 is our attorney today for personal injury and other things. 2131 01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:16.560 Is he there right now? Yeah? 2132 01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:16.840 He is. 2133 01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:19.039 Okay, So I'm going to bring him up. I'm going 2134 01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:20.800 to bring you up, John, And you know what I'm 2135 01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:23.319 going to say. So, she's got a two thousand and five. 2136 01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.520 So for all practical purposes, now is when the time 2137 01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:29.039 cars come out. So it's a twenty year old car, 2138 01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:32.000 and it's a twenty year old car with almost two 2139 01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:35.239 hundred thousand miles. Let's go right to the worst case 2140 01:49:35.279 --> 01:49:40.399 scenario and say they ruined her car. 2141 01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:44.760 They ruined it. They ruined the engine. First of all, 2142 01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:46.560 what would they owe her? 2143 01:49:46.680 --> 01:49:50.039 John, give her the legal answer that the legal truth, 2144 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:51.560 give her the truth. 2145 01:49:52.520 --> 01:49:55.760 The cost of a twenty year old, two hundred thousand 2146 01:49:55.880 --> 01:50:01.760 mile engine. Yes, right, you're only entitled to recover what 2147 01:50:01.880 --> 01:50:05.600 you lost. You're not entitled to a brand new vehicle. 2148 01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:08.359 And I don't get the central or a new engine. 2149 01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:09.279 That's the problem. 2150 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:12.640 And just to make the point that you couldn't, you couldn't, 2151 01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:17.760 You couldn't reasonably expect that if what you had got destroyed, 2152 01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:20.239 that the only measure that would be appropriate would be 2153 01:50:20.279 --> 01:50:23.520 a brand new, you know, not twenty year old, not 2154 01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:25.279 two hundred thousand mile engine. 2155 01:50:25.359 --> 01:50:29.279 So and we're not we're not claiming, but we're not 2156 01:50:29.479 --> 01:50:32.680 claiming that you're trying to get a new car. So 2157 01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:34.560 we're not even claiming that you're not. You don't sound 2158 01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:36.439 it reasonable all. But here's what I want to lay 2159 01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:38.319 out to you, the scenario that John did not mention. 2160 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:42.239 Let's say they found a one hundred and ninety seven 2161 01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:45.720 thousand mile engine and they're willing to replace it, but 2162 01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:49.840 it's going to cost them, with labor and stuff, five grand. 2163 01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:53.039 They don't have to do it if the truck is 2164 01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:56.640 not worth five grand or the selar, I'm sorry, they 2165 01:50:56.840 --> 01:50:59.880 only have to give you what it is worth. They 2166 01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:02.199 either have to fix it or give you the value 2167 01:51:02.359 --> 01:51:05.319 of it. They don't have to go over the value 2168 01:51:05.439 --> 01:51:10.000 of it. So what do you want? Let's assume and 2169 01:51:10.159 --> 01:51:12.760 I would assume that that engine's toast. I would assume it. 2170 01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:13.880 What do you want? 2171 01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:18.800 Oh, you know, I know everybody makes mistakes. 2172 01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:19.479 I get that. 2173 01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:23.520 But you know I have never had trouble. 2174 01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:23.840 With this car. 2175 01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:25.199 I understand. 2176 01:51:25.239 --> 01:51:26.039 No, No, I get that. 2177 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:29.279 What do you want? I'm really asking. I'm not asking 2178 01:51:29.319 --> 01:51:31.359 for a correct answer. I'm asking for your answer. 2179 01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:32.479 What would you do? 2180 01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:33.720 What would I guess? 2181 01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:34.079 Just what? 2182 01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:35.600 Would ever make it run again? 2183 01:51:36.479 --> 01:51:38.920 No, but they're not going to if it's worth if 2184 01:51:39.079 --> 01:51:41.520 making it run again is going to cost too much. 2185 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:46.199 What do you want? Let's say, I mean, what do 2186 01:51:46.359 --> 01:51:46.760 you want? 2187 01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:50.439 Is there a scenario where they would just say, okay, 2188 01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:54.279 we'll give you fifteen hundred dollars worth of I don't 2189 01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:55.279 know engineers. 2190 01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:59.640 Of course, of course, of course there is there's a 2191 01:51:59.720 --> 01:52:02.840 scenari where they owe you one of the value of 2192 01:52:02.920 --> 01:52:06.520 that vehicle. I'm not denying that. I just didn't want 2193 01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:09.600 to have you expecting them to pay whatever it takes. 2194 01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:14.239 So I'm trying to discern or find out how much 2195 01:52:14.800 --> 01:52:17.840 that car would be worth on the open market. And 2196 01:52:18.079 --> 01:52:19.960 and cars dot Com is one of the best sources 2197 01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:22.479 in the world. And Deputy D is looking it up 2198 01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:25.800 right now, and so let's figure it out. Let's what 2199 01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:28.680 what you Deputy D is going to let us know 2200 01:52:29.039 --> 01:52:31.000 I'm putting on. I'm putting them up. Okay, do you 2201 01:52:31.159 --> 01:52:32.399 do you have an idea yet? 2202 01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:32.720 No? 2203 01:52:32.800 --> 01:52:34.680 And I get I'm on cars dot com. There's just 2204 01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:36.479 a lot of drop down man use for me to work. 2205 01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:37.640 Okay, it's really easy. 2206 01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:41.199 And then what we're gonna do is figure out and 2207 01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:43.159 then you can either ask them or sue them in 2208 01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:46.319 small claims court. Now, John, what arguments would they have 2209 01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:46.960 in defense? 2210 01:52:49.680 --> 01:52:54.319 Well, just said, you know, it's the same, it's the 2211 01:52:54.359 --> 01:52:57.199 same basic thing, Tom. They're they're going to suggest that, 2212 01:52:57.640 --> 01:52:59.520 you know, she's trying to get better meant. 2213 01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:02.399 And but not if she just wants the value of 2214 01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:02.720 the car. 2215 01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:07.359 Well, they're going to suggest that they didn't destroy the 2216 01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:07.840 whole car. 2217 01:53:08.199 --> 01:53:10.840 They just you know, no, no, I understand that. But 2218 01:53:10.920 --> 01:53:12.840 if it's going to cost more than it's worth to fix. 2219 01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:14.920 I mean, we can go in that circular argument all 2220 01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:17.279 day long. But yeah, I mean it's either the value 2221 01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:21.600 of the car the value of what they broke, right, 2222 01:53:22.720 --> 01:53:24.880 So I mean, yeah, I. 2223 01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:27.319 Don't even see a Selearra. What is the Selera? What 2224 01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:27.680 is it? 2225 01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:33.159 It's actually called a Camriselera in cars dot com. And 2226 01:53:33.560 --> 01:53:36.439 there's nothing with that many miles, but around one hundred thousand, 2227 01:53:36.479 --> 01:53:39.560 one hundred twenty thousand. The asking prices are I can 2228 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:43.199 see from six thousand from that year, Yeah, two thousand. 2229 01:53:42.880 --> 01:53:45.359 And five, okay, so if it has half the miles 2230 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:47.920 it would be it would be way down. 2231 01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:50.479 So so it's about six grand for what. 2232 01:53:52.359 --> 01:53:55.199 So here's here's one. 2233 01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:59.239 Here's a two thousand and five Camerasolera with only ninety 2234 01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:02.079 five thousand on it, and that's ninety five hundred dollars. 2235 01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:03.880 She would never get that now. 2236 01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:07.039 And there's seven with one hundred and forty seven thousand, 2237 01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:09.880 and that's only sixty eight hundred. And that's a convertible, 2238 01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:14.199 by the way, So it's probably about a I have 2239 01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:15.520 a question from Melissa. 2240 01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:18.960 Five grand. I'm thinking four to five, yeah, five, maybe 2241 01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:20.960 go ahead with question. 2242 01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.119 Did you you commented that your friend, replace the correct 2243 01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:27.479 oil filter and filled up the engine with oil. 2244 01:54:27.520 --> 01:54:28.680 Does it this full of oil? 2245 01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:30.800 Now it holds oil? 2246 01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:31.000 Now? 2247 01:54:31.159 --> 01:54:31.319 Yes? 2248 01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:33.239 Well, then I don't think you have nothing to lose. 2249 01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:36.199 Start to see see if it's starting. 2250 01:54:36.279 --> 01:54:39.119 You have nothing to lose because you're not going to 2251 01:54:39.199 --> 01:54:40.640 get more because you didn't drive it. 2252 01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:42.680 You're under the assumption the engine's bad. 2253 01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:43.439 Let's prove it. 2254 01:54:43.640 --> 01:54:45.319 Start, Yeah, Start and run. 2255 01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:48.279 It right so I can just run around the neighborhood 2256 01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:50.439 or something so I'm not stranded out somewhere. 2257 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:52.439 Okay, I'm going to say that it's going to be 2258 01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:56.600 worth about four grand. It's going to be worth about 2259 01:54:56.680 --> 01:54:57.239 four grand. 2260 01:54:58.479 --> 01:54:58.720 Okay. 2261 01:54:58.840 --> 01:55:01.439 Here's here's an old five selara is yours a V 2262 01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:06.600 six it is? Here's one with one hundred and fifty thousand. 2263 01:55:07.640 --> 01:55:12.399 It's a fair deal fifty seven hundred. So I would 2264 01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:16.239 say maybe five to six grand. Now, what you can 2265 01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:18.960 do is you can go and find as many comps 2266 01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:21.720 as possible and sue them if you think. But I 2267 01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:24.119 want to give this to somebody to negotiate for you. 2268 01:55:24.319 --> 01:55:26.399 But first, the very first thing you. 2269 01:55:26.439 --> 01:55:30.600 Do is make sure it's bad, right, Okay, you need 2270 01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:31.560 to do that first. 2271 01:55:32.319 --> 01:55:34.239 Yeah, And the way you do that is drive it 2272 01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:38.439 and then take it over to Kevincoulkin at sheridanautotech dot 2273 01:55:38.560 --> 01:55:43.000 com and have him just run a real fast check 2274 01:55:43.119 --> 01:55:45.640 with the computer to see the compression and if it 2275 01:55:45.760 --> 01:55:47.239 still runs, then leave it alone. 2276 01:55:47.439 --> 01:55:49.359 Okay, I mean, I don't think I would do anything. 2277 01:55:49.520 --> 01:55:52.720 If not, then you sue them for the value of 2278 01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:54.920 the car, or you call us and we'll negotiate for you. 2279 01:55:55.039 --> 01:55:57.800 But you call us back, we'll assign this to someone. 2280 01:55:57.920 --> 01:55:59.520 But first drive it. 2281 01:56:00.279 --> 01:56:02.039 Okay, yeah, I will. 2282 01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:03.880 If it's going to fail, it's going to fail. I mean, 2283 01:56:04.119 --> 01:56:05.680 waiting for it to fail won't help you. 2284 01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:08.199 You need to find out as quickly as possible to 2285 01:56:08.319 --> 01:56:10.439 make the connection to the oil change. 2286 01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:11.239 Okay. 2287 01:56:11.880 --> 01:56:16.159 Well, and is this detail relevant? The model number of 2288 01:56:16.199 --> 01:56:18.640 the oil filter they have on my receipt is completely 2289 01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:20.359 different than what was in the car. 2290 01:56:23.479 --> 01:56:25.520 What is the filter from the same manufacturer. 2291 01:56:26.359 --> 01:56:29.600 I don't get the point you're trying to make. What's 2292 01:56:29.640 --> 01:56:30.439 the point you're making? 2293 01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:35.640 Well, the model number of the filter they put on 2294 01:56:35.760 --> 01:56:38.920 my receipt is probably the right model number that should 2295 01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:39.600 be in the car. 2296 01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:42.119 But it was, Well, did your mechanic retain the one 2297 01:56:42.159 --> 01:56:42.840 they put on there? 2298 01:56:43.319 --> 01:56:45.359 Yes. Well, good, that's your evidence. 2299 01:56:45.520 --> 01:56:47.600 I mean, okay, yeah, yeah, I know. 2300 01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:50.079 I see what you're saying. They probably put the wrong 2301 01:56:50.119 --> 01:56:51.560 one on but wrote the right one down. 2302 01:56:52.039 --> 01:56:52.199 Core. 2303 01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:54.000 Did he say the right one was written down? 2304 01:56:55.640 --> 01:56:55.800 Yes? 2305 01:56:56.159 --> 01:56:58.079 Well I'm assuming that's the right one. 2306 01:56:58.199 --> 01:57:01.399 Yes, all right, Well Melissa, you just keep that old one, Okay, 2307 01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:04.960 you just keep it. And by the way, did he 2308 01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:07.039 say the oil was all out of it? How much 2309 01:57:07.079 --> 01:57:12.319 oil was still left in it? None? Oh crap, those 2310 01:57:12.399 --> 01:57:14.960 cars will run a few minutes without oil. Listen, you 2311 01:57:15.039 --> 01:57:16.279 may have stopped quick enough. 2312 01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:17.199 Put it. 2313 01:57:17.560 --> 01:57:19.479 Do what Bo said, put some oil in it and 2314 01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:20.960 run it. 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In comparison, call 2325 01:57:57.840 --> 01:58:01.600 Compass Insurance paying too much coverage at dozens of insurance 2326 01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:04.720 companies find out now three all three seven seven one help. 2327 01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:07.560 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 2328 01:58:07.640 --> 01:58:10.039 durand the real estate man dot com to list your 2329 01:58:10.119 --> 01:58:13.239 home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero 2330 01:58:13.359 --> 01:58:20.399 sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O 2331 01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:23.560 three seven one three talk seven one three eight two 2332 01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:30.880 five five Deputy BO, you have a follow up, sir, let's. 2333 01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:35.079 Go to This is Pama that called in uh Monday, 2334 01:58:35.279 --> 01:58:37.359 last Monday and twelve o'clock hour. 2335 01:58:37.960 --> 01:58:40.319 She was a long she's a long term tenant at 2336 01:58:40.359 --> 01:58:42.239 the RT she was renting. 2337 01:58:42.560 --> 01:58:44.000 Uh, let's see the uh. 2338 01:58:44.640 --> 01:58:46.479 She called it a tree apartment. 2339 01:58:46.680 --> 01:58:50.840 It's a tree yes, atri I or htri something, and 2340 01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:53.880 it was three years she's been renting. And she says 2341 01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:58.560 Venezuelans live there and are partying all night. And she 2342 01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:03.640 wanted another Section eight apartment at Mosaic. They were denied 2343 01:59:04.239 --> 01:59:05.119 due to a felony. 2344 01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:09.600 Right. I didn't get into those details with her, but 2345 01:59:09.760 --> 01:59:12.880 she did tender over a thirty day notice of a cake, 2346 01:59:13.840 --> 01:59:17.640 and when she was looking into the mosaic, I guess 2347 01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:21.560 the situation over there was worse. So she wanted to 2348 01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:26.720 stay and resin. She wanted to stay in the ARTEA apartments, 2349 01:59:27.319 --> 01:59:29.119 so they would not let her do it. But we 2350 01:59:29.359 --> 01:59:34.880 made five voicemail calls and two emails over there, and 2351 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:38.399 I followed up with her over the weekend and they 2352 01:59:38.600 --> 01:59:43.560 decided to ressend the thirty day notice. 2353 01:59:43.319 --> 01:59:46.279 With her because they were tired of the troubleshooter call 2354 01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:47.880 a show leaving. 2355 01:59:49.720 --> 01:59:51.520 Well, I'll tell you what else they should be tired 2356 01:59:51.560 --> 01:59:55.319 of that they're treating the Venezuelans better than they are her. 2357 01:59:55.680 --> 01:59:58.399 Now again, I'm not hate Venezuelans. I help a lot 2358 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:01.359 of Venezuelans families and I love the ones i'm helping. 2359 02:00:01.479 --> 02:00:03.880 There are good and bad in every crowd. This one 2360 02:00:04.119 --> 02:00:07.119 is and the ones I'm helping. We're are legally here 2361 02:00:07.319 --> 02:00:09.479 on asylum right now. But I want to say this, 2362 02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:14.359 This thing about Venezuelan's and apartment houses is true, and 2363 02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:16.600 that's why I put up that graphic about YouTube. I 2364 02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:18.680 want to know what my morons think about that graphic 2365 02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:24.119 I made, denying news. Get it denying news actually, I 2366 02:00:24.199 --> 02:00:27.680 put denying views. If it's against the narrative, we'll deny 2367 02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:32.840 it every time. Absolutely. So it's like they spend more 2368 02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:35.800 of their time saying what's not true according to them 2369 02:00:35.920 --> 02:00:38.560 than what is the news. They we see nothing, we 2370 02:00:38.680 --> 02:00:40.319 hear nothing, we say nothing. 2371 02:00:41.720 --> 02:00:43.920 So I'm really happy about that. 2372 02:00:44.560 --> 02:00:46.800 I am for her too, because she did not she 2373 02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:49.119 had a change her heart and did not want to move. 2374 02:00:51.039 --> 02:00:53.720 I made it. The mosaic has more problems than the art. 2375 02:00:54.439 --> 02:00:57.279 The RT apartments, I don't know, well, it's got reaching. 2376 02:00:57.359 --> 02:00:58.640 A lot of them are having problems. 2377 02:00:58.680 --> 02:01:03.840 And unfortunately, these decent Venezuelan families who have legal asylum 2378 02:01:03.920 --> 02:01:06.079 and are working and all that, they're having trouble now 2379 02:01:06.720 --> 02:01:09.119 because they're looking at all of them a scan saying listen, 2380 02:01:09.600 --> 02:01:11.359 we don't want this problem, you know. 2381 02:01:11.520 --> 02:01:15.520 I mean, it's really difficult right now. Any other follow ups. 2382 02:01:15.359 --> 02:01:20.439 BO Champion Windows still working on that, and Mike Marony Chevrolet. 2383 02:01:20.720 --> 02:01:22.079 So I don't have any. 2384 02:01:22.000 --> 02:01:24.560 Champion Windows, the worst company you could ever deal with 2385 02:01:24.760 --> 02:01:27.199 right now when it comes to windows, doors and sidings. 2386 02:01:27.239 --> 02:01:28.520 Please remember that. 2387 02:01:28.680 --> 02:01:31.439 Three oh three seven to one three talk seven one 2388 02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:33.479 three A two five to five. Deputy d let me 2389 02:01:33.560 --> 02:01:36.239 go to you you got what going on now? You 2390 02:01:36.399 --> 02:01:37.760 have a follow up as well, sir. 2391 02:01:37.760 --> 02:01:39.600 Yes, you may recall a few days ago we got 2392 02:01:39.640 --> 02:01:42.119 a call from Jessica who had her Alexis service that 2393 02:01:42.239 --> 02:01:46.039 Stevenson and Golden and sometime later the wheel fell off 2394 02:01:46.159 --> 02:01:48.560 and caused a tremendous amount of damage. So a couple 2395 02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:51.319 of really nice positive developments over the weekend and another 2396 02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:54.960 one today. So Jessica contacted me on Saturday and said 2397 02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:59.840 that Stevenson Lexis is now waiting to get a repair 2398 02:02:00.039 --> 02:02:03.279 wet from their body shop for that car and they'll 2399 02:02:03.279 --> 02:02:05.640 be in touch with her. And today I got an 2400 02:02:05.680 --> 02:02:09.600 email from Stevenson and this gentleman said that we're currently 2401 02:02:09.680 --> 02:02:12.359 reviewing the circumstances and expect to address the resolution with 2402 02:02:12.439 --> 02:02:15.479 the guests soon. In the meantime, we've provided the customer 2403 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:19.119 with a loaner vehicle. So things are happening and very cool. 2404 02:02:19.479 --> 02:02:22.840 That deserves Where's my dinger? 2405 02:02:23.199 --> 02:02:26.560 Sometimes I can't find my dinger which is there? 2406 02:02:27.119 --> 02:02:29.600 And Tom, this is in very star contrast to what 2407 02:02:29.680 --> 02:02:33.279 I've been dealing with with another outfit called Drive and Motion, 2408 02:02:33.880 --> 02:02:36.359 you may recalled. This is a Greeley dealership and they 2409 02:02:36.359 --> 02:02:39.199 also have a store and Thwarton and they sold Jeannette 2410 02:02:39.800 --> 02:02:43.039 a jeep that would not pass the mission. 2411 02:02:42.880 --> 02:02:45.640 That's right, And they told her it wouldn't and they 2412 02:02:45.720 --> 02:02:47.159 sold it to her anyway, and then. 2413 02:02:47.520 --> 02:02:50.600 Said you need to and she's looking at like what 2414 02:02:51.039 --> 02:02:52.800 five grand to make it pass the missions? 2415 02:02:52.880 --> 02:02:56.000 Well, you know, unfortunately, what I think happened is they 2416 02:02:56.079 --> 02:02:59.199 sent her in a decoy. They said that the check 2417 02:02:59.239 --> 02:03:03.159 engine light is on because the ABS system. 2418 02:03:02.880 --> 02:03:04.600 Needs to be repaired, which is stupid. 2419 02:03:04.680 --> 02:03:07.359 She just repaired it at a cost of fifteen hundred dollars, 2420 02:03:07.720 --> 02:03:11.199 but that didn't take care of the actual problem with 2421 02:03:11.319 --> 02:03:15.239 passing the emissions test. And unfortunately, now she's passed that 2422 02:03:15.359 --> 02:03:17.840 either three or five day period to rescind the deal. 2423 02:03:18.319 --> 02:03:22.720 So nobody a Drive in Motion would return my calls 2424 02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:23.760 or emails. 2425 02:03:23.800 --> 02:03:25.399 They're just completely ignoring us. 2426 02:03:25.560 --> 02:03:28.399 Well, let's put the numb let's put their number out. Well, 2427 02:03:28.520 --> 02:03:32.600 drive drive in Motion sold a car that doesn't pass emissions. 2428 02:03:32.640 --> 02:03:34.840 Let them know what you think people, when my Martino 2429 02:03:34.920 --> 02:03:35.800 Marauders do that. 2430 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:37.720 It works well. 2431 02:03:37.800 --> 02:03:40.760 The Greeley store where she bought this jeep is area 2432 02:03:40.840 --> 02:03:46.600 code nine seven zero seven nine five zero five zero zero. 2433 02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:53.960 That's nine seven zero seven nine five zero five zero zero. 2434 02:03:54.079 --> 02:03:56.960 And what we tell them is very simple. We say, look, 2435 02:03:56.960 --> 02:03:59.920 we heard about you on the Martino Show. You're selling 2436 02:04:00.079 --> 02:04:03.760 cars illegally. We're gonna let everyone know because they are. 2437 02:04:05.920 --> 02:04:09.199 If you sell a car into an emissions area that 2438 02:04:09.359 --> 02:04:14.840 doesn't pass, you got a problem. Three O three seven 2439 02:04:14.920 --> 02:04:18.479 one three talk seven one three eight two five five. 2440 02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:22.199 We have more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show, Carls. 2441 02:04:22.319 --> 02:04:25.279 Just go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel 2442 02:04:25.399 --> 02:04:28.439 Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content, 2443 02:04:30.039 --> 02:04:34.960 wait time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison, 2444 02:04:35.159 --> 02:04:38.680 call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 2445 02:04:38.720 --> 02:04:41.439 of insurance companies find out now three all three seven 2446 02:04:41.560 --> 02:04:44.359 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 2447 02:04:44.399 --> 02:04:46.600 when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot 2448 02:04:46.680 --> 02:04:50.000 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 2449 02:04:50.039 --> 02:04:56.680 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martine here, 2450 02:04:56.720 --> 02:04:58.439 I want to go right to the phones because we 2451 02:04:58.560 --> 02:05:04.520 have our expert on Brad O'Brien O'Brien Legal Services. He 2452 02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:06.640 looked at a lease for us Lucas. Let me sum 2453 02:05:06.800 --> 02:05:11.359 this up really quickly. Your lease was technically up when 2454 02:05:11.920 --> 02:05:12.920 the end of when. 2455 02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:20.279 Lucas, Yeah, the original lease of August first, and then 2456 02:05:20.319 --> 02:05:21.359 we did a month to month. 2457 02:05:22.079 --> 02:05:25.000 Yes, in fact, the lease called from month to month 2458 02:05:25.199 --> 02:05:26.840 after the lease was up, right. 2459 02:05:28.359 --> 02:05:29.159 That's my understanding. 2460 02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:33.640 Well, that's exactly what it says. So it was up 2461 02:05:33.720 --> 02:05:37.439 in August when in August? Was it up the end of. 2462 02:05:37.439 --> 02:05:41.079 August August versus the original lease? 2463 02:05:41.119 --> 02:05:44.159 And then well, actually then it was then it was 2464 02:05:44.239 --> 02:05:47.840 actually September, right, right? 2465 02:05:47.920 --> 02:05:49.479 Yeah, we we ended up doing September first. 2466 02:05:50.920 --> 02:05:53.199 Okay, let's do this again. 2467 02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:57.239 The lease was up, not when you left. When was 2468 02:05:57.359 --> 02:05:59.359 the lease the written lease up? 2469 02:05:59.600 --> 02:06:00.399 When was it up. 2470 02:06:04.159 --> 02:06:04.800 August first? 2471 02:06:04.920 --> 02:06:05.840 Is my recollection? 2472 02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:10.119 Okay? Okay, August? 2473 02:06:10.359 --> 02:06:12.800 So it was up at the end of July, is 2474 02:06:12.880 --> 02:06:18.439 that right? It doesn't matter. The lease was up, it 2475 02:06:18.560 --> 02:06:23.239 reverted month to month. After it reverted month to month. 2476 02:06:23.640 --> 02:06:26.359 You gave them notice you were gonna leave when. 2477 02:06:28.720 --> 02:06:33.039 On September first, Okay, and you left September two, is 2478 02:06:33.119 --> 02:06:33.479 that right? 2479 02:06:35.079 --> 02:06:35.600 That's correct. 2480 02:06:36.079 --> 02:06:38.960 They charged you for that extra day, right. 2481 02:06:40.800 --> 02:06:42.960 Great, they charged us for September first, and that's it. 2482 02:06:43.479 --> 02:06:46.600 We were gone on September one. 2483 02:06:47.079 --> 02:06:52.000 Okay, Now here's the problem. They also charged you an 2484 02:06:52.079 --> 02:06:53.279 early termination of. 2485 02:06:53.279 --> 02:06:53.880 How much. 2486 02:06:55.840 --> 02:06:57.560 About five thousand dollars And. 2487 02:06:57.640 --> 02:07:00.239 We can't figure out why. If your lease was up 2488 02:07:00.279 --> 02:07:03.439 in August or at the end of July, and you 2489 02:07:03.640 --> 02:07:09.000 stayed the month of August under the month to month provision, 2490 02:07:09.800 --> 02:07:13.079 why would they charge you early termination for leaving at 2491 02:07:13.119 --> 02:07:13.840 the end of August. 2492 02:07:13.960 --> 02:07:14.880 We have no idea. 2493 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:18.960 Do you have any idea Brad O'Brien after reading that 2494 02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:21.119 lease why he would be charged five grand? 2495 02:07:23.319 --> 02:07:26.720 Well, this lease was a year long lease that ran 2496 02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:27.800 through July one this. 2497 02:07:27.920 --> 02:07:31.560 Year of July one. Okay, I'm sorry it ran through 2498 02:07:31.680 --> 02:07:33.720 July one, okay, but it provides. 2499 02:07:33.439 --> 02:07:35.159 It it automatically goes month month to month. 2500 02:07:35.319 --> 02:07:35.520 Yes. 2501 02:07:35.960 --> 02:07:37.000 The problem with this lease. 2502 02:07:36.800 --> 02:07:39.039 Though, is that there's a fill in the blank where 2503 02:07:39.039 --> 02:07:41.560 it says you have to give sixty days notice notice 2504 02:07:42.039 --> 02:07:44.159 a notice to VAK so before you move out. If 2505 02:07:44.199 --> 02:07:45.800 we actually move out, you have to give a sixty 2506 02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:46.399 day notice. 2507 02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:49.720 That doesn't work very well in a month to month 2508 02:07:49.760 --> 02:07:51.760 situation because of your month to month you still have 2509 02:07:51.800 --> 02:07:54.520 to give a sixty day notice, okay, So that that 2510 02:07:54.600 --> 02:07:56.920 could be the problem where he gave a thirty two 2511 02:07:57.039 --> 02:08:00.399 day notice, where the lease says sixty days is acquired. 2512 02:08:02.880 --> 02:08:08.239 Okay, so therefore it's possible that they're charging him for 2513 02:08:08.279 --> 02:08:09.119 an extra month. 2514 02:08:09.279 --> 02:08:11.720 Maybe why would he be charged five grand? 2515 02:08:12.560 --> 02:08:15.720 Well, there is a liquidated damage's provision in this lease 2516 02:08:17.199 --> 02:08:19.920 that does have an exact amount that's over five thousand 2517 02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:25.239 if you left early during the first year and sixteen. 2518 02:08:25.640 --> 02:08:27.439 But that's not even the case. He didn't leave early 2519 02:08:27.520 --> 02:08:28.720 during the first twelve. 2520 02:08:28.479 --> 02:08:32.560 Months, but he left early afterwards. 2521 02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:37.680 Technically, well, he gave the least thirty days notice. 2522 02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:41.760 And what we haven't mentioned yet is that in May 2523 02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:45.039 of this year, the landlord representative told him by email 2524 02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:48.479 that a thirty day notice will be good enough, even 2525 02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:50.920 though the lease says sixty days notice is required. 2526 02:08:51.000 --> 02:08:53.520 So I think that is a good argument for a. 2527 02:08:53.600 --> 02:08:56.439 Waiver of the landlord waves the sixty day requirement and 2528 02:08:56.520 --> 02:08:58.159 turned it into a thirty day and so he gets 2529 02:08:58.159 --> 02:08:59.359 thirty two two days notice. 2530 02:08:59.359 --> 02:09:01.880 So he should have been he should have been good 2531 02:09:01.920 --> 02:09:04.119 and they should not have charged that. Do you think 2532 02:09:04.159 --> 02:09:05.880 he can go to small claims court and make that 2533 02:09:06.039 --> 02:09:07.239 argument for the five grand? 2534 02:09:07.800 --> 02:09:09.720 Yeah, but hopefully he doesn't have to. Hopefully a call 2535 02:09:09.800 --> 02:09:12.680 to the landlord just to talks in basic sense and 2536 02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:16.479 reading their own lease will and their emails will convince 2537 02:09:16.520 --> 02:09:16.920 them to. 2538 02:09:17.359 --> 02:09:20.399 Or maybe a letter from even a letter from you, seriously, 2539 02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:26.560 I mean sometimes it takes that, Yep, Lucas, I would 2540 02:09:26.640 --> 02:09:28.800 do that. I would first of all, let one of 2541 02:09:28.880 --> 02:09:31.640 our deputies take it and call Okay. 2542 02:09:33.359 --> 02:09:34.479 And explain this. 2543 02:09:34.760 --> 02:09:38.720 The problem is who understands it enough to take it. 2544 02:09:39.039 --> 02:09:41.800 You want to Deputy Deal. Deputy Deal take it because 2545 02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:44.880 he's been following it, Kachina. If you can send him 2546 02:09:44.920 --> 02:09:48.159 the lease, and then what will happen is if they 2547 02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:51.439 don't just voluntarily take that off, then well then you 2548 02:09:51.560 --> 02:09:53.840 should get Brad O'Brien to write them a letter. He 2549 02:09:53.920 --> 02:09:58.119 can put it very succinctly that you were given permission 2550 02:09:59.239 --> 02:10:05.560 for thirty days and that's what you gave. Okay, Lucas, 2551 02:10:06.119 --> 02:10:08.720 I'm gonna give it to Deputy D. Kachina. Send this 2552 02:10:08.840 --> 02:10:11.319 over to Deputy D and Brad O'Brien. By the way, 2553 02:10:11.399 --> 02:10:15.079 is seven to zero three seven zero seventy three eighty eight. 2554 02:10:15.159 --> 02:10:15.399 Brad. 2555 02:10:15.520 --> 02:10:22.279 We certainly appreciate your your your expertise. Of course, olslaw 2556 02:10:22.319 --> 02:10:24.560 dot com. Josh, you have a question, Go ahead, Josh, 2557 02:10:24.680 --> 02:10:25.199 what's going on? 2558 02:10:27.760 --> 02:10:28.439 Hey, I was just. 2559 02:10:28.479 --> 02:10:31.039 Wondering if you knew if you could use qualified money 2560 02:10:31.199 --> 02:10:32.520 for ves Sarah turnkey. 2561 02:10:33.399 --> 02:10:38.119 Okay, that's a very interesting question. Vestera Turnkey is a. 2562 02:10:39.920 --> 02:10:40.399 What it is. 2563 02:10:40.600 --> 02:10:43.279 It's a rental program where you become a landlord through 2564 02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:44.600 Vesteria and they take care of. 2565 02:10:44.720 --> 02:10:45.119 All of it. 2566 02:10:45.640 --> 02:10:47.640 And I kind of like the program, I really do. 2567 02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:53.920 You cannot use qualified money, first of all, in any 2568 02:10:54.119 --> 02:11:00.199 investment unless both the investment is approved and the and 2569 02:11:00.439 --> 02:11:04.359 you have a independent trustee. So you have to have 2570 02:11:04.640 --> 02:11:13.520 a trustee that allows self directed IRA investments. Okay, So 2571 02:11:14.479 --> 02:11:17.520 if you have it in a regular traditional qualified plan, 2572 02:11:17.640 --> 02:11:20.720 you'd have to move it to an IRA with a 2573 02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:25.000 trustee that allows you to self direct. 2574 02:11:25.199 --> 02:11:27.800 Okay, that's the first step. And the one I like, 2575 02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:28.960 I love is Premiere. 2576 02:11:30.359 --> 02:11:33.039 We we at Wave eight at my financial company, we 2577 02:11:33.199 --> 02:11:39.479 use we use Premier Specific Pacific Premier Trust, Pacific Premier 2578 02:11:39.560 --> 02:11:43.199 Trust because they allow self directed If people, for example, 2579 02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:45.800 want to investor earn a private fund and all that 2580 02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:49.159 with qualified money, we go through Pacific Premier Trust. So 2581 02:11:49.359 --> 02:11:52.960 you can do that. Now, the next question, you have 2582 02:11:53.199 --> 02:11:58.159 to get the investment approved, which means it has to 2583 02:11:58.279 --> 02:12:04.439 be a arms length with Vestera Turnkey, it would not 2584 02:12:04.640 --> 02:12:11.560 be arm's length because you own the property directly. Okay. 2585 02:12:12.479 --> 02:12:16.359 So in order for it to be arm's length, it 2586 02:12:16.439 --> 02:12:21.039 would have to be an independent company that is buying 2587 02:12:21.199 --> 02:12:24.880 this up and selling you a portion of it. It 2588 02:12:24.920 --> 02:12:27.520 would have to be like an LLC or an investment 2589 02:12:27.640 --> 02:12:32.600 company that would allow you to buy into that. So 2590 02:12:32.840 --> 02:12:34.640 you'd have to set that up on your own. But 2591 02:12:34.800 --> 02:12:37.319 you can't technically set it up on your own because 2592 02:12:37.319 --> 02:12:40.520 then you would own the LLC. So you have to 2593 02:12:40.640 --> 02:12:44.399 have an intermediary kind of arms length transaction. Does that 2594 02:12:44.520 --> 02:12:45.319 make sense, Josh? 2595 02:12:46.439 --> 02:12:46.840 It does. 2596 02:12:47.640 --> 02:12:51.640 For example, I don't remember what the minimum investment is, 2597 02:12:51.720 --> 02:12:53.560 but I've been talking to Barry at length, and I'll 2598 02:12:53.560 --> 02:12:58.159 tell you why. I think Barry's minimum investment is sixty 2599 02:12:58.239 --> 02:12:59.279 five grand or something. 2600 02:12:59.600 --> 02:13:02.159 Okay, I think did you ask him? By the way, 2601 02:13:02.279 --> 02:13:04.560 do you know what the minimum is? I hate quote. 2602 02:13:04.560 --> 02:13:07.359 I think per minimum says the average is between like 2603 02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:08.560 seventy and eighty. 2604 02:13:08.960 --> 02:13:10.560 Okay, Okay, whatever it is. 2605 02:13:11.199 --> 02:13:14.439 I'm going to tell you something here that I'm working 2606 02:13:14.520 --> 02:13:16.279 with Barry on and I'm not trying to take bit. 2607 02:13:16.359 --> 02:13:18.960 I think Barry, if you can go directly to barry. 2608 02:13:19.039 --> 02:13:21.479 You do that, it's wonderful. But if you want to 2609 02:13:21.520 --> 02:13:24.640 do qualified money, or you want to do other money 2610 02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:28.920 or less money than that, my company, my financial advisement 2611 02:13:29.000 --> 02:13:31.600 company now Wave eight, is going to be setting up 2612 02:13:31.680 --> 02:13:36.279 independent LLCs to buy into Vestera Turnkey for part of 2613 02:13:36.319 --> 02:13:41.600 their portfolio. So therefore you can buy smaller chunks and 2614 02:13:41.760 --> 02:13:45.880 you can do it with qualified money through our company. 2615 02:13:46.159 --> 02:13:48.680 We were setting up one at a time, so each 2616 02:13:49.319 --> 02:13:54.880 each LLC fund will be for one chunk of Vestera 2617 02:13:55.000 --> 02:13:58.960 Turnkeys properties. So we will own it along with our 2618 02:13:59.159 --> 02:14:02.439 investors who will who want, who decide to be part 2619 02:14:02.479 --> 02:14:05.199 of it, and for that you can use it. But 2620 02:14:05.399 --> 02:14:09.840 if you can go directly, go directly. However, you can't 2621 02:14:09.920 --> 02:14:14.000 go directly with qualified money at this point because because 2622 02:14:14.359 --> 02:14:17.439 there's no intermediary. We are going to serve as an 2623 02:14:17.479 --> 02:14:21.119 intermediary in the very near future. Three O three seven 2624 02:14:21.199 --> 02:14:24.079 one three talks seven one three eight two five five. 2625 02:14:24.720 --> 02:14:27.279 We have more coming right up. Go with a sure 2626 02:14:27.359 --> 02:14:30.800 thing Denver's Best Roofer excel Roofing dot com. You don't 2627 02:14:30.800 --> 02:14:36.840 pay a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance 2628 02:14:36.920 --> 02:14:41.039 checkup free, no obligation in comparison, call Compass insurance paying 2629 02:14:41.079 --> 02:14:43.760 too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies. 2630 02:14:43.880 --> 02:14:46.640 Find out Now three oh three seven seven to one help. 2631 02:14:46.640 --> 02:14:49.279 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 2632 02:14:49.359 --> 02:14:51.760 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 2633 02:14:51.840 --> 02:14:54.960 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 2634 02:14:55.079 --> 02:15:00.439 sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martine, your troubles you three 2635 02:15:00.520 --> 02:15:04.359 oh three seven one three talk seven one three eight 2636 02:15:04.399 --> 02:15:07.680 two five five. John Fuller Fuller Law, Personal injuryco dot 2637 02:15:07.800 --> 02:15:10.520 Com or just Google John Fuller three oh three five 2638 02:15:10.680 --> 02:15:14.319 nine seven forty five hundred, John, when it comes to 2639 02:15:14.399 --> 02:15:18.000 personal injury, somebody asked, and I think you answered, you 2640 02:15:18.119 --> 02:15:19.720 can do a lot of these and most of them 2641 02:15:19.760 --> 02:15:20.880 without ever going to court. 2642 02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:21.640 Isn't that true? 2643 02:15:22.920 --> 02:15:23.039 Oh? 2644 02:15:23.119 --> 02:15:24.800 Absolutely, I think you know. 2645 02:15:24.960 --> 02:15:28.760 The majority, I'd say probably seventy percent of our practice, 2646 02:15:29.680 --> 02:15:32.439 or the cases in our practice get resolved without going 2647 02:15:32.520 --> 02:15:35.920 into litigation at all. And then of the ones that 2648 02:15:36.119 --> 02:15:42.199 go into litigation, really less than five percent probably actually 2649 02:15:42.319 --> 02:15:45.399 go to trial. So if you're a party that just 2650 02:15:45.600 --> 02:15:48.239 really wants to be treated fairly and get a good outcome, 2651 02:15:48.840 --> 02:15:50.680 chances are pretty good that we're going to be able 2652 02:15:50.720 --> 02:15:53.840 to accomplish that for you without ever exposing you to 2653 02:15:54.560 --> 02:15:58.520 any sort of court appearance or depositions or anything like that. 2654 02:15:59.079 --> 02:16:01.279 Now, one of the things I wanted to mention this 2655 02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:08.319 is a good point being treated fairly attorneys. Truly, I 2656 02:16:08.479 --> 02:16:12.520 know you you're not going to take a case that's frivolous. 2657 02:16:12.680 --> 02:16:16.119 I mean, so that in itself, I think insurance companies 2658 02:16:16.199 --> 02:16:16.640 come to know. 2659 02:16:18.600 --> 02:16:19.239 Oh for sure. 2660 02:16:19.319 --> 02:16:22.520 The insurance companies track law firms, they track attorneys. They 2661 02:16:22.640 --> 02:16:25.800 know who you know, the people are that can't be trusted. 2662 02:16:26.000 --> 02:16:29.600 You know, we have firms that well. We hear stories 2663 02:16:29.600 --> 02:16:32.680 all the time from insurance adjusters that say, look, we 2664 02:16:32.840 --> 02:16:34.879 were told this and that by a firm and then 2665 02:16:34.920 --> 02:16:37.920 they never followed through and did it. You guys, do 2666 02:16:38.079 --> 02:16:40.719 what you say. And so that's been my goal to 2667 02:16:40.799 --> 02:16:43.120 have that reputation for the last twenty two years. 2668 02:16:43.920 --> 02:16:46.760 John Fuller three oh three, five nine seven forty five hundred. 2669 02:16:46.799 --> 02:16:48.559 Make sure you give them a call first sign of trouble. 2670 02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:52.040 I'm Tom Martine. Thank you for being here. Don't forget 2671 02:16:52.079 --> 02:16:55.360 three oh three Martino. Anytime you need help, information and referrals. 2672 02:16:55.360 --> 02:16:58.479 Three oh three Martino More tomorrow