Speaker 1: This is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross ten O
one at h Town. Good morning, and welcome to a
Thursday edition of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross Here
on Sports Talk seven ninety with Rossville Reale with Jonathan Allen,
our producer. My name is Matt Thomas. Good morning to
all of you. I will peel the curtain back a
little bit here. I was supposed to go on NBA
TV this morning in NBA Radio to do kind of
some fun talk about Oklahoma City, uh and the Rockets
game the other night. They apparently they played my oh
no call like twenty times during the course of their show.
Oh really, Yeah, that was funny because again I didn't
know what to say except oh my god, Kevin Durant
called the time out when there was time out for
the clock and he didn't have one oh no. So
they sent me a text and said, we got a
bumpy today. I'm like, well, I kind of figured out why.
If you woke up this morning aroundy o'clock you found
out that Terry Rojier Charlie Miami NBA player, current NBA player,
has been arrested. You then also found out that current
NBA head coach and I believe NBA Hall of Famer
or a Basketball Hall of Famer Chauncey Billups I think.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: I heard it from one person. I mean, it doesn't
mean that he's in. That's a fringe case. Well, but
it's the Basketball Hall of Fame. Puts anybody I know
Chauncey Billups, current coach of the Portland Trailblazers, has been
the Basketball Hall of Fame. Oh that's weak. Yeah, I
mean I don't. I'm not putting chance on my all
time list, but that's not here now. All right. So
they have been arrested in two separate cases, both involving gambling.
Terry Rozier basically, is it point shaving or is it yeah,
point shavings, fine, match fixing? Mat Yeah, there's a lot
of things you can call, but basically, he's he had
a system going where people were putting money on how
he did on his individual performances and or teams. We
don't know how deep that is, but Terry was well
aware of it. Terry was receiving money because of it.
Blah blah blah blah blah. So that's that's one issue.
Then you've got Chauncey Billups, And you have someone that
I've known for thirty years involved in it too, Damon Jones.
I my first year calling college basketball for the University
Houston was nineteen ninety six, ninety seven. That was the
last year Damon Jones played for the University Houston before
he went on to the NBA. I've known Damon Jones
since that time. Since he's in college. He and I
have done games together on a University Houston broadcast. He
and I have done I have done shows before. Remember
when CSN used to have that Sports Talk Live show
back in the day CNN. He and I were shows.
When I would see him as an assistant coach with Cleveland,
we'd hug it out, say hello, catch up on things.
I mean we were not daily texters, monthly texts, but
I would say Damon Jones and I for a large
part of the last has probably been a couple of years,
but I would say we probably text once a month
for a stretch of years. Now you're saying, well, what
were you texting about? Well, it was HI, how are you?
How are things going? As far as it goes, if
you have not heard Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones and three
crime families. I'm reading for it. Okay, we're we're now
adding to the mix. Yes, in total, thirty six people
I believe or thirty seven were arrested. So let's tell
you what they're doing. Chauncey, Billups, Damon Jones, and Taro
Rozier are all in custody. Basically what Chauncey and Damon did.
And I listened to the press conference coming in this morning.
It was on one of the It was on the
serious XMNBA channel. The channel also is Beyond Today. They
fixed poker games. They lured people in that were significantly
into the illegal poker game scheme. Mm hmm. They entice
these people to come play in these poker games because
they said, you get a chance to play with a
Hall of Famer in Chauncey Phillips. You get a chance
to play with the former NBA player Damon Jones, who
was By the way, Damon Jones and Lebron James have
a deep, deep friendship. I don't know what it's like
right now, but Lebron, but anywhere Lebron has gone over
his career for the at least early in his NBA career,
Damon Jones has followed him. They were teammates in Cleveland
when they won the Eastern Conference champions but they did
not win the NBA title when Damon was playing. But
early on, I don't know, that may not be true.
I know Damon was with Lebron as a player and
then it was like his personal shooting coach for a while.
So Damon alleged is all allegedly. I guess we should
say allegedly a lot. But I mean, I just listened
to the press conference. They would course people to play
in these high end poker games with these mob families
that help facilitate them and bring people in. And Rossie,
they rigged everything. They rigged the cards, they rigged the shuffler.
There were glasses that could help detect cards. There were
video cameras, there were data ports, there were phones. It
literally sounded like I was listening to a plot of
a Mafiosa movie, and we don't you know, Look, it's
twenty twenty five. We don't use the word mafia very much. No,
but we need to, I guess, so a lot of
the modern day technology and whatnot. And then of course
the Rico charges and busts up of families has of
course made mob activity not what it once was. And
you know, yeah, fifties and sixty if we're talking about
mafioso in sports, maybe where if there were sports sports
radio was in nineteen sixty four, maybe would have more
of a conversation about it. And also, guys at that
point were not making any kind of money, so if
they were influenced and a chance to make a quick
buck through illegal tactics, they were going to do that.
So we have to treat them as two separate cases.
The only problem with Damon is he's the only one
attached to both of them. He knew about the the
the point fixing or the game fixing mode with Terry Rogier,
and he was also involved in this poker situation. I
would ask you all today not between now and two o'clock, hopefully,
you know, whenever two thirty three o'clock, maybe tonight, when
you're at home at two oh one, go get some
clips off of YouTube of this FBI press conference. It
was Rossie. It was mind blowing the first of all
the years years of investigation on this, the clarity in
which they had the amount of evidence they had, the
amount of intelligence, the amount of the war crew. They
just didn't flippantly put this together. They didn't get a
phone call on the crime Stoppers tip line and go, okay,
wet's go find out what's going on. Somebody tipped them
off to these two particular cases, and it is one
hundred percent and through. I don't know how much fault
the NBA gets should receive, but it's a dark day
for the NBA when you have an active coach, a
Hall of Famer, and an active player now Terry Rogers.
I don't believe they've ever been an All Star game.
But Terry Rozier is a rotational player in the NBA
and has been a very good player. Now, Graham, you
didn't know much about him in Charlot because the Hornets
were terrible, but he got to Miami in and trade
a couple of years ago and has been in a back,
impactful player. I've called many games against with Terry Rogier
on the floor. Career earnings one hundred and thirty five
million in the NBA, so it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Men.
Speaker 1: It's a guy that's been able to create a shelf
life for himself in the NBA and make good money.
We're talking about people that are owing money on debts.
We are talking about pilfering money from unsuspecting people. We
are talking about Terry Ros. You're doing this intentionally to
help other people with money. We are talking about money laundering.
We are talking about attempts at stealing these machines that
can help them circumvent the system in playing these legal
card games. We're talking about four mafia families. And again
it's hard. It's hard to comprehend right now because it
literally is fresh on our minds. Matter of fact, I
think they just finished. If not, they're still having the
press conference. No, I think it just finished.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I actually took an extra stroll around
the six' ten loop BECAUSE i want. TO i didn't
want to miss anything because they had it. Down they had.
Everything i'll Get, remember you have to there's innocent until proven.
Guilty but if you were listening to this and happen
to watch any of it, TODAY i use the word
chilling because it reminded me of a time that you
AND i don't know, About but there was a time
this country was led in large parts by the mafia
and these crime, families AND i would have thought in
twenty twenty five they would be such a non. Factor
but in this particular, case and we're only talking about three,
individuals there could be some more people that we don't
know about in terms of, athletes but it's at this
point it's Been, billups it has Been Terry, rogier and
has Been Damon. Jones. Yeah, overall thirty four people, arrested,
overall six defendants with the sports gambling and thirty one
defendants with the rigged poker. Games, yeah apparently they've gone
deep into each of those families to arrest those. People
you're gonna be able to write a book about. This
only three people are involved in both. Cases Damon jones
is one of. Them, Yeah so needless to, SAY i
have a lot of there's gonna be a book on. This,
WELL i mean you've already got a movie ready to, go, Right,
YEAH i mean you. Will you will have a, movie, Right,
Jonathan you will have the Terror rogier's. Story so the
initial thought from people that are trying to be youngsters On,
twitter we all are trying to crack a joke now and,
then is that you have this is an awful. Thing
and THIS nba tweet is brought to you by instead say,
yeah If i'm THE nba And i'm talking about it's
thirty owners and it's, commissioner this is A you could
treat this as a variety of. Ways we got to
be more responsible for our people that we that are
that are members of our. Association we can Say i'm
not gonna let a former, player a current player and a, coach,
well coach was he's un involved in point. Shaving he's
involve of the, pogram but He you could also if
you're THE, nba you can, say, well i've got we've
Got we've had fifteen players on thirty. Teams we have
four hun fifty players and one player is not fall
in the. Rules that is the. Outlier that is not the.
Story or you could have them go into the room
their next league owners, meetings shut the door and say
we got a, problem. Guys we are taking all this
money from all these different gambling websites in which we
do as well it was as an effect our job
OR i mean we don't have a direct connection to
athletes that, WAY i mean in terms of doing. That
but they could seriously say we got to fix. This
we've got to either take the money, away which is
gonna be hard for anybody to. Do nobody want to
take money. Away but this day, today how THE nba
handles it perhaps is going to be more of a
story than any of. Them Terry rogier, did this is
going to. Be, yeah the fallout where this goes from
here and? HOW i mean this is a, massive massive.
Scandal thirty seven, people six on the gambling, SIDE nba
players and a coach in A hall of. Fame how
many years to how money they've been investigating since twenty twenty.
THREE i think so this was done And i'm Not
i'm not trying to use crime. Problem i'm sure they
crosses on The they didn't go ahead and execute this
if they're not ready to. Convict you can't take down
a current player and a current coach in two widespread
different cases without having and, you by the, way you're
going after mob families, Too, YEAH i, mean let's let's
be very careful on. This if you're going after a mob.
Family and by the, way they all have they had
the typical mob family. NAMES i didn't see any. Names oh,
yeah you don't take you about a matter of, fact
google the mob family names and see if you can find.
Them because it was like, again but, yeah The weather's
The gambino, family The colombo, family the yeah you Know
John gotti was head of one of those, families the five. Families,
yeah but it's. One it's one of those things that
said it's one of those fine. Families they were All, Banano, Colombo,
Gambino geneviz and Lu. Cheesy they Weren't Alan smith And,
jones you know WHAT i? Mean they were. They so it's.
Funny you don't want a stereotype in, life but you
do stereotype because the names you just brought. Up i'm
A gambino family. Guy i'm you know, What, ROSS i
am none of the. Above they want to live their.
Life they can do it the way they want. To ten,
fourteen you know The Matt Thomas show With. Ross so
as we discussed this and again more will be coming
out of, this obviously in the days and months. Ahead
but as a sports, fan and forget about whether you're
AN nba fan or, not does this heighten the concern
that you have about the games you? Watch because apparently
there were four in particular games That Terry rozier was
being busted for. Against one of them was against The Toronto.
Raptors one was against The Los Angeles. Clippers the other
TWO i can't, remember but they were they were specific
games that heavy amounts of money were. PLACED i don't
know they were on individual bets or the. Team so
let's say it was Like Terry rosier Unders yeah one
GAME i did hear, Well i'll listening to the press.
Conference he pulled himself out of the game after nine. Minutes,
yeah so they made some sort of. Injury, again you're
this is so, dumb these sportsbooks when they See Terry,
rozier a normal activity under is like one thousand dollars
and then all of a, sudden it's fifty thousand. Dollars
alarm bells go, off they pull it off the. Board
he was getting money delivered to his door the next
day after such acquisitions or of such accomplishments were. Made
LIKE i, said this will take probably a day for
us to kind of read and you, Know sham's doing,
it and look it's On it was On Fox. NEWS i,
mean you had, people you had news networks carrying the press.
Conference so let's going to transcend. Sports for. Sure we
have a busy program. Today we have that we Have Frank,
gore Future hall Of, Famer, RIGHT i would sayes gonna
be on the. Show i'm at eleven. O'clock is he in?
Already he. Is he's gonna be, retire retired five, years,
okay so he needs to be. In, yeah he's gonna be.
In we'll talk to him about things going on in his.
Life and, uh he is a former forty nine. Er
he's also had some good games against The, texans no
matter what, uniform he's. Warned so we'll talk to him
about THE, nfl how he sings things we HAVE i
just don't get. It at eleven, thirty we Have rosses
rotten five to twelve, fifty believe it or. Not And
Willie fritz be with us today at one point thirty
getting ready for The cougars game Against Era Zona state
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one three two one two five seven. Ninety when you
hear forgive me About Terror rozier as a, person when
you hear professional athletes involved in this to the level
of this could be in and then you have the
ATH i mean to, Me Chauncey phillips was just a,
celebrity This ross this could have been an. Actor this
could be an actors that have involved in. This, hey
come play in this. Game we'll rig the cards and
for your for your time and, effort we're gonna give
you some. Money we're gonna cut you in on. This it's,
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three two one two five seven. Ninety, okay so let's
let's go into the mind of the commissioner of THE.
Nba do you have a do you have a conference
call today with every player to? Go do you understand
what's going on? Here this is as bad as it
humanly can. Get, now, again one player should not represent
a fraternity of four hundred and. Fifty no one's think
suggesting that it's been hasn't just been one though it
Was Johnte Porter Yea Malik, beasley who has not been
apparently been arrested through anything, there although he has been.
Investigated IS i, MEAN i guess the question is this
THE nba and other sports organizations and for that, matter television,
networks radio. Station we have opened ourselves up to allowing
the advertising of. It, yes now we're not dealing the
people that are listening to the show are not dealing
with the immense amount of money and pressure or for that,
matter team association that these players are being talked. About
but does the commissioner say this is a one off
That i'm not going to indict the entire league off
of one, person off of our two people of a
fraturnity of four hundred and, fifty or do the? Hit
or does he, say and he's scratching his head this? Morning,
man how are we going to get past? This he's doing.
That he certainly is going to be doing damage control
he has to. DO i, mean and protecting the sanctity
of your game is probably job number. One it always
is for any. COMMISSIONER i think the peace of, You,
no you should correct yourself a piece in the owners
is number, one, Right BUT i, mean but you have
no product if people don't believe that your product is.
Genuine so, yes you can appease the own as you
can do all this other. Stuff but if if people
don't think your games are, legitimate and they think they're.
Rigged nobody's gonna Watch you're gonna lose, everyone or for that,
matter bet. Yes so you're first of, all you're not
giving away these all this money that you're already getting
from all these sports, books the THE espn bets and
the fanduels and The DraftKings and the MGMs and all.
Everywhere it's it's on every broadcast any going. Away they're
giving them a lot of. Money they're THEY'RE i would,
say they're not gonna do away with any of. That
and SO i was also Watching Get up This morning
with much to my, ignorance but when the national story,
hits they're gonna have stuff that the local shows are
not gonna. Have and My greenberg was hosting the show
with a bunch of people on the state and it's
like all of us that are are on this, daist
on this studio, set we have some sort of of
attachment to a gambling mm. Hmm that includes the network that, says,
hey you're gonna talk about The Niners texans game On.
Sunday you can talk about whether Brock party is going to,
play whether or Not Nico collins gonna play and not
necessarily how does that impact what's happening on the, field
is how's that gonna affect which you do With Nico collins,
rushing receiving, YARDS. Cj stroud passing. Attempts it feels like
today in sports and we don't do too much of
that here on the, show but so much of what
people do is for. Analysis is What Las vegas tells
us should be. Analysis you NEVER i mean When jimmy
The greek used to be on THE nfl, today he
never could talk about point. Spreads it was it was
forbidden and. TABOO nfl shows up until about what would you,
say fifteen years ago never even uttered If texans plus
minus one and a? Half? Again Is Tony? Romo remember
he was doing a fantasy football conference In. Vegas, yeah
and THE nfl shot that. DOWN i want to say
that was within the last as an active, player right, yeah,
Yeah i'll go look it. Up that wasn't that long, ago,
yeah twenty, Fifteen, okay so it was ten years. Ago,
yeah so it's spend Ten. Yeah literally he was like they're, like, no,
no you can't do it was a fantasy foot like
you can't do fantasy of a. Bus you close to.
Gambling we gotta stay from. Gambling we gotta protect the
sacty of the. Game. Correct and now every game broadcast
you look has same game, parlay live look ins at
the lines and this is the live, line and this
is the live props and all this other. Stuff but,
yeah so they're they're not gonna give away that. Money
they're just. Not so it's gonna be damage. Control and
what they have to do is continue to impress it
into their players that as soon as you are tying
in with, somebody there's gonna be red flags up at
their guardrails in. Place these sports books ain't losing, money
these sports. Books this is not their first. Rodeo this
is not the first time that they've thought of or,
no they're not getting surprised by somebody manipulating. Bets they
take stuff off the board all the time when there's
any semblance of suspicious. Activity so they need to tell
the players. This, somehow it hasn't been properly. Communicated, yeah
if you have some, friend you're telling a bet you're
under and he bets this one gambler only thirteen thousand
dollars and then everything was poured off the, board pulled
off the. Board NOW i don't know how much across the,
country but apparently in this story That i'm reading about
This Terry rozier, thing one guy bet thirteen thousand dollars
and then they pulled it off the board like they're.
Ready they're hot and ready to take you off the,
board and then you're gonna get. Investigated let's steal in the,
realities if you're betting money On Lebron, james if you're
betting money On Kevin, durant if you're betting money On
Victor Webban, yama it might pass a few eye tests
right when you're taking a nice, player but by no
means a. Star it would be like if there was
an over under On points tonight On Friday night For
Aaron holliday with a big bet on that it was massive.
Bets the flags would go up in multiple states with
MULTIPLE ip. Dresses, yeah red flags are, up and you're
getting shut down and. Investigated it was. Stupid it was
stupid by AND i don't know. What i'm curious What
Terry rozier got mixed up. In AS i, said one
hundred and thirty five million dollars he's made in his.
Career he's not hurting from. Money you think, exactly you
would think you would think so. Exactly did he get
mixed up with some mob people and he got in
A i don't know bad he was in one of
their rig Poker does he have somebody with family or
friends that's tied up into. Money that's that's. True something that's,
True like, yeah like his cousin was playing one of
the rig poker games and lost to the hundred. G's
there's that blackmail. Involved absolute, absolutely there's there's there's more to.
This Terry, rozier to, me didn't just up and, say, hey,
Guys i'm, Broke i'm gonna need a little extra spinning.
Cash i'm gonna go ahead And i'm gonna rig games.
Something there's way more to. This even Though Terry rozier
probably thinks he's a star in the big, Picture Terry
rose's on a. Star, no but, yeah he he should
have more than enough money to take care of whatever
he's got going. On unless there, is, yeah like we,
said some kind of blackmail situation or he ran into
debt or. WHAT i don't. Know let me take hey
and thirty five million dollar. Player people get into, debt
they just Do, yeah they do so to me, AGAIN
i think more of this is a macro philosophy on
this is that what are these sports league is going to?
DO i think THE nfl should be thinking about. THIS
i Think Major League baseball should be thinking about. THIS
i think anybody that is IN i think collegiate players.
Should now that's where really gets probably the waters can
get murky ross because you, guys you, know there are
some college players that are making good. Money but there's
somebody who's making, eight, nine ten million dollars a. Year
why can't you as a middling college basketball player that
plays On Notre dame and you say you average nine
points a, game and you do the exact same, Thing
tarrot as you're. Dad, yeah well it's been. Happening there
was a college actually college basketball has been had quite
a bit of. It, yeah and THEN i can wrap
my head around because, yeah you got a bunch of
college kids and you're kind of you think you're more
indestructible and under the. Radar, yeah under the, radar and
you and you're, Stupid, OKAY i mean when you're eighteen
nineteen year old. You you just don't know anything about
the world and you think you know. Everything i'm talking
about myself included so THAT i can wrap my head.
Around but this is THE nba with a guy Like
Terry rozier making all the money that he was. Making that's.
Crazy the only thing this is this was a comment
From Adam silver before this went. Down Adams, sober the
commission of THE. Nba he was he was on The
Today show yesterday On tuesday because it was the debut
of THE nba AND nbc And Craig, melvin the host
Of today's, show asked commissionary, says are you concerned about
the gambling? Stuff the only thing he said, WAS i
think we're going to talk to our. Partners i'm assuming
it's BET mgm And DraftKings And Van duels and all
that about maybe limiting the amount of individual prompt, bets
that those are perhaps a little more easier to detect
than all of a sudden saying let's watch how why
The Charlotte hornets went from a minus plus nine to
a plus thirteen mm. Hmm so and it's gonna be and,
honestly it's gonna be very curious how these television partners
handle this because if you watched games ON i don't.
KNOW i didn't see THE espn games last night except
for a little bit of the. Highlights but when THE
nba ON, tnt they have commercial, breaks so they Have
kenny And charles come in the middle of a commercial break, Saying,
hey it's time now for our picks of the. Night,
yeah brought to you by said gambling. COMPANY i. LIKE i,
like let's say you gonna random, EXAMPLE i Like Steph
curry over thirty one points. Tonight you know WHAT i?
Mean mm. Hmm, YEAH i was looking for a college
thing and, yeah this was six days Ago Norfolk. STATE
a bunch of bets made were, made and, yeah there's
a there's an under there's an. Investigation thirteen former Players Eastern, Michigan,
Temple New, Orleans North, CAROLINA a AND, t And Mississippi
valley low LEVEL d one. Schools they thought they can
get underneath the, radar and Maybe Terry rogier thought he
could get under the. Radar m. HM i don't know
If i'm more troubled by the gambling stuff on the
bets Or i'm more troubled by the fact that Terror,
rogier a human being would try to sucker a bunch
of people to come play cards with. Him, yeah and
all this illegal stuff and getting ties to, them to the.
MOB i, mean Was rosier in the cards BECAUSE i
Know Damon jones Was Damon jones apparently was within the
was with the. CARDS i don't know that everybody else one,
Syndicate but there was two schemes that we know of,
gambling gambling manipulation and then the rig poker. Games, yeah ten.
Eight we'll Get Tom all on this gambling stuff throughout
the course of the show Because i'm intrigued by. It
i'm troubled by, it But i'm intrigued. Again it feels
like a movie that's already should be written or at
least put together on a pen to paper on This
johnsy freaking, pillups, Dude, yeah very at least at thirty for. Thirty,
oh ESPN's not gonna produce. That apparently they're not even
talking about this at. All the ESPN's going to The
cowboys game coming up this. Week, okay it's a major
SCANDAL fbi press conference rocking the world of. Sports and,
yeah they're talking About commander's. Chiefs so they're recapping The sixers. Game,
yeah speaking of. Recapping, uh we have a dear friend of.
Ours his name Is Adam klam and we love. Him uh.
Huh we don't always agree with, him but we love. Him,
YES i would agree with both of those. Statements, well
so when The rockets didn't get we were all praying For.
Wimby pray for, victory For. Victor that's What tilman, said
when you have to take the lead off your. Owner oh,
sorry tell me this first got him and we were. Pissed,
yes mm, hm and you ended up with the Men. Thompson,
yeah not, bad not, bad not, bad Not. Wimby maybe
we don't. Know, well, honestly who's? Anamorium? Right? Wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait no, no, no, no, NO i
THINK i can argue this. Side go. Ahead wemby's been
hurt but parts of two. Seasons uh was he hurt
the first? Time Men thompson was all DEFENSIVE Nba First,
team Like wemby's Won Defensive player of The. Year, yeah
but can he went? It last? YEAR i, played you,
know defensive player of The year in. Rookie was He
rookie of The year? TOO i believe so, now and
they were in the same rookie. Class the forward progress
is one deemed. Superstardom, Oh i'm. Sorry he was second
In Defensive player of The. Year, well then he's been
An All. Star he's Been rookie of The, year and
he was second And Defensive player of The year And
All team First, defense which is three point. Percentage it's
a bad better THAN i. Love let me just. SUCH
I i get, IT i. Do but, Yes wimby's a
bigger impact, player but he played seventy one. Games he
played seventy one games his first year and then forty
six last. Year yah attendance is part of the great
okay and Also amend's miss game, Too SO i shouldn't
even go to this. Direction points, yeah is. THAT i
think they're both on a upwards. Directory But adam just
doesn't want to buy into any of the wins be.
Hype and as much As i'm a hawk for The
rockets and as much AS i want them to, win
AND i love them in AND i love all the,
Players i'm most of, them, ACTUALLY i love All you'd
be a fool to not realize That, wemby if he says,
healthy is a generational. Player that's why the whole world
was salivating to get him as the number one. Pick
and he had forty points last night and fifteen rebounds
As San antonio went To dallas In Cooper flag's opening
debut and beat the crap out of The mavericks In.
Dallas it wasn't even. CLOSE i have a, statement AND
i don't know how bold it. Is and of course
this is all barring. Health, Okay, see whatever you're gonna,
Say i'm gonna Refer i'm going To i'm going to
fight you back with but can he stay? Healthy? Whatever
gohe and, SAY i don't, know you don't. Know he's
the most talented player to ever play in THE. Nba
seven foot whatever Five listed at seven, Five boban, says
he's seven to seven eight foot. Wingspan did you you
see he's pulling Out he was working with a. Keen
this offseas he's pulling Off hakeem. Moves and by the,
way this is not just. Anybody he's. Ragdalling he was
Making Anthony davis look like his little brother in the.
Driveway Anthony davis is like seven foot with like a
seven five seven six, wingspan grown ass body too defensive.
Place I'm Anthony davis has won A Defensive player of The, year,
RIGHT i mean he's at least been in the conversation
Before i'll look it. Up Like Anthony davis has Been
First Team All defense multiple, times been in the running
For Defensive player of The, year, like this is not a. Nobody,
okay he has won, one but he's been First Team
All defense several, times finished, second And Defensive player of
The year, third, fourth. Fourth this is one of the
best defenders on the, Planet Anthony, davis and he made
him look like his little cousin where let him score,
One let him score, one. Victor, okay come, on be,
fair be fair to your little. Cousin that's what it looked.
LIKE i will stand by this. STATEMENT i want the
spursos every single. Game, okay what do you think? About
what do you think about my? Statement most talented, player
the way that he can move? Me, now, shoot IF
i went and looked at the listen to the air
checks of the Old Matt thomas, Show, ross would you
have said the same thing About gianni's is just just
Thee he's got a better shooting touch and a lot
of that is. Inborn you can work on your three
point shooting until you're blue in the. Face you're just
not gonna Be Steph. Curry SO i would Say giannis
is up, There Lebron james is up. There who? Else Kevin.
Durant Kevin durant's up. There i'm going to not agree
with you, today, okay but please allow me to jump
aboard your. Bandwagon he's the most talent, talent pure talent
now with his body and his bone structure and all that.
STUFF i don't. Know i'm not An it is hard for.
Me it's to get into somebody that's seven four or
five with as frail as he. Looks and, AGAIN i HAVE.
Rossi WHAT i have on my side is, HISTORY nba.
History there's nobody who's built like, him who's had who's
played fifteen years of seventy games, correct he's played one
hundred eighteen games Of Ben thompson's played one hundred and thirty. Two,
yeah fourteen game, difference, right, key three. YEARS i can't
agree with you right, now Ok because part of it
is BECAUSE i don't Want spurs to win because at
this because if you're saying what he, is The rockets
are gonna are going to be having to face the
spurs for, many many years About Yeo ming on the list,
too by the, way just he his body broke, down but,
sorry just, tall like seven foot, five shooting. TOUCHED i
was never as big On Yao ming as everybody. Else come, on,
now he averaged one of his prime. Years he was
like twenty five and. Ten BUT i BUT i. Knew
and you can go ask our Buddy allan readers or
listening to the show you used to work A channel,
Two and he AND i argue about this for. YEARS
i was afraid of his height and. WEIGHT i was
afraid of the, competition AND i was more afraid frankly
early in his cur if you remember this, ross he
still owed The Chinese Basketball association a boatload of. Games
he was putting a lot of wear on tear in his.
BODY i think hurt him down the. Road, well sports
science has much, improved and he was drafted in two
thousand and. Two in twenty three, years there has been
miles of improvement in sports such which science is not
tele a. Coach you can't play. Today, yeah well, yeah
that's a little management they. Have they Have Chinese Basketball
association had no. Interesting i'm not talking about. That i'm
talking about About wimby. Today oh, yeah can you help
prevent him from breaking? Down we'll find. OUT i, need
honestly to climb aboard your Your you're a bandwagon on.
THIS i probably need two seasons of. This i'm not
using one. Game i'm not either using sample size WAS i,
mean he's had a NICE nba, career but he has
the ability to. Be let me put it this, WAY
i was as much AS i love a, Man victor
would have been awesome. Here And i'm not going to
complain about Loving Victor Weban. Yama i'm gonna. Complain it's
To San antonio spur AND i want them to lose
a bunch of. Games nothing but has for more to
see a guy like that score thirty five points a
game and lose fifty to fifty, five fifty to fifty five.
Times he's not gonna score a thirty five. Game, no,
WELL i don't. Know, no he's not going To, GOD
i hope. Not but he made. It LOOK i was
watching that. Game Frank gore in fifteen minutes here On
Sports talk Seven honty right ten fifty two on The
Matt Thomas show With. Ross Frank, gore Future hall Of,
famer will be with us on the show in about ten,
minutes talk Some, Niners, texans and all things about. Football
he'll be In tawis a matter of fact This. Saturday
we'll tell you more about that coming. Up james calling
us From are you calling From New York? City? James?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man what's?
Speaker 1: Up?
Speaker 4: Fellows good, Morning good morning To. Texas, yeah calling From
New York. City i'm just walking to. Work he got
them you guys here be, Okay.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir go, ahead go, Ahead, mick go, ahead say
what you want to.
Speaker 4: Say so thank you To Frank gore for for a
few years THAT i played fantasy, football he was always
my running. Back so thank you very, much Mister. Gore great, job.
Sir and and THEN i wanted to, say LIKE i
feel like we always get stabbed in the heart with
these commentators for The World, Series like why not take
The emmy award winning uh, broadcasters WHICH i think is
our astros in this. Case let them have a shot at,
it you know WHAT i? Mean like we just always
seems like we always end up with such MutS that are,
like don't like discontent or like it's just. Weird you,
know it's like it's a horrible way to end the.
SEASON i think we should have some some more skin
in the.
Speaker 5: Game.
Speaker 4: Now that's to tell us, everybody have a have a
great rest of the.
Speaker 1: Week all, right thank, You, james all, right appreciate. It
what he's asking for is the local broadcasters on the
big events to do the national games or just do
it on the. Side, WELL i think he's saying on
a national, game so that's not gonna.
Speaker 2: Happen.
Speaker 1: Uh you know These fox, BROADCASTERS, CBS, NBC, abc they
have their announcing crew that do national. Games they're not
gonna do a great. Job, yeah they're considered. To there's
supposed to be as impartial as it is. Now it
is interesting That Joe davis will be the announcer for
The World series On. Fox last year he did The Dodgers.
Yankees Joe davis does Ninety dodger. Games that's not a
typical for guys in the national network to do other
teams and. Stuff for, Instance Vin, Scully people don't Mean Vin,
scully one of the greatest voices in the history of,
sports did THOSE nbc games forever and ever and, ever
he's just as recognized as The dodgers voice as he
is in the national. Voice so WHAT i would like
to see AND i think we're seeing a little bit
of it with alternate cast and secondary audio. FEEDS i
know on The APPLE tv games With, baseball you could
put on if you. Want if the askers were playing The,
mets you could listen to the national, feed or you
could go to a subchannel and listen To robert And
steve call the. Game that's WHAT i would. DO i
would like to see more of. That, frankly if The
rockets were ever in a position to win AN nba
championship and you weren't the Biggest Mike breen fan or
which is. Harding he's a great, guy great, announcer but
if you wanted to hear my, call it'd be cool
that you could go listen to me call the game
from the obviously The houston. PERSPECTIVE i would think technology
that would be an EASY i, mean we already Know
apple does, it so why can't everybody do? It you
know WHAT i? Mean but a lot of people are,
like you know what the problem is is if you
start offering that you skew away from your main channel
where your ratings are and m hmm, yeah because if
you go To fox two point one or two point
two and you get, me how does that work with The?
Nielsen that's? Right Plus i'm also not reading the commercials
that are on the. Screen they pay or watch The
simpsons tonight On. Fox you know What i'm? Saying the
same game parlay Those it's gonna happen quite a, bit
isn't it for? YOU i think for every sports? Caster
speaking of? That, uh Terro rosier's attorney has released a. Statement,
okay if you would like to have an, attorney the
Name Jim trusty is probably a pretty good. One trusting pretty.
Good it's better Than. Craig i'm not so sure about.
It Us, trustee the billboards right. Themselves, uh you, Know,
MARK i don't know about. This you know that wouldn't
be a good.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Right here is what he. Said this is To Pablo,
torre who has become a lead investigator Reporter Terry rozier's.
Attorney we have Represented Terry rogier for over a. YEAR
a long time, ago we reached out to these prosecutors
to tell them we would have an open line of
communication they Characterized terry as a, subject not a. Target
but at six am this morning they called to tell
me THAT fbi agents were trying to arrest him in a.
Hotel it is unfortunate that instead of allowing him to,
surrender they opted for a photo. Op they wanted the
misplaced glory of embarrassing and professional athlete with a purp.
Walk that tells you a lot about the motivations in this.
Case they appear to be taking the word of spectacularly
incredible sources rather than rely on actual evidence of. Wrongdoing
terry was clear by THE, nba and these prosecutors revived
that Non Kate terry is not a, gambler but he
is not afraid of the, fight and he looks forward
to winning this. Fight, okay so if they roll the
dice and take it to, Trial i'm, Sorry i'm, Sorry i'm.
Sorry how about this whore you betting? On is that
what you want me to say? Next you got your money?
On i'm gonna go with THE. FBI i, mean that's
what the attorneys are paid for is to say. That,
Yes so let's be brutally. Honest somebody's lying either THE
fbi completely goofed this up after yours of investigation or
uh terror was your Attorney Jim trusty can't be. Trusted
there's gonna Be there's gonna be so much more to.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 1: Yeah by the, way people Blaming trump for this is.
Ridiculous this investigation began in twenty twenty two and twenty
three When President biden was running. Things so this is
this is nothing politically. MOTIVATED i don't think it. Does
BUT i don't think they could even tell. You but
this is about this is crime. Families, Yeah i'm not
worried about. That you shouldn't have pull up a motivation
for crime families. People you're saying people are politicizing. SOMETHING
i know. WHY i just don't get. IT i actually
do get. IT i get. It but all, Right Frank
gore is going to join us the next hour of this.
Show let's. Go is that coming up? Now? So oh my?
God what? Now clinton just send us a? Tweet this
can't be. True Did Chauncey billups say let the chips
follow they may in the press conference last? Night oh,
no that's pretty. Funny oh that can't be. True come, On,
adam stop sending us stuff like. That and did he
say you play the hand your, dope all? Right we
play like we play like we had a two seven off.
Suit we're going against a full house although we. Didn't
ALTHOUGH i forget. IT i can't sit. Enough these poker
puns are. Terrible ten fifty, Eight it is The Matt
Thomas show At. Ross where are we going? Here we've
got three hours left to. Go we gotta just don't
get at eleven thirty, Today we've got the news at
noon and Five. Ross who's making The rotten five or
The texas in The rotten five this? Week could be
he's asking for a. Friend is The Matt Thomas show
With ross eleven o three On Sports talk seven ninety
and It's Matten ross With you On Sports talk seven.
Nine will be joined shortly By hall Of fame running
Back Frank. Gore he's going to be in town with
an autograph signing and he's the third leading rusher in
the history of THE nba OR. Nfl my guess is
you would be. BAD i need to go to football
and have to sign. It, yeah m, hm he's gonna.
Be he's gonna be The it was in The all
twenty tens team as. Well by the, way five time pro. Bowler,
yeah he's a part of what they call the forty
nine Ers Houston invasion. Takeover oh, okay so there could
be a lot Of niner fans At energy ON. Sat
sunday afternoon at twelve. Noon they're The niners fans do travel,
well they actually. Do you know, why because its cheaper
to live life outside Of San. Francisco that's. True they're
saving money when they even with the you had the plane,
ticket they're still saving. Money, Yeah i'm telling, YOU rossi
AND i traveled to all thirty twenty one OTHER nba.
CITIES i think pound for, Pound San francisco is more
expensive to do my thing like eat and hang out
and do my you, know in anywhere Than New York,
CITY i really. Do you can find little bargains here
and there In New York. City you can't find bargains
In San. Francisco you just. Can't so, YEAH i MEAN
i if you are going on a vacation To San,
francisco It's castia eighty five ninety dollars to. Park oh my,
god it's. Nuts the food is. Expensive they charge a
insurance surcharge on, that which is not, terrible but it
still just adds more to the. Cost it all piles.
Up it all piles. Up airfare is not. Cheap it's
just a, hard hard place to really justify unless you're
going there for a specific. Reason. YEAH i went there
once ten years.
Speaker 3: Ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a friend's thirtieth and we went to
Wine country and we hung out In San. Francisco it was.
BEAUTIFUL i like, it okay BECAUSE i always. Here it's,
dirty BUT i had a great. TIME i don't, know
it gets the reputation of a place where people saw
themselves on the ground and. Stuff i've only ran into
that once and it was Something i'll never. Forget but
it doesn't happen a. LOT i, mean it, happens AND
i can't speak to. It LIKE i, Said i've been
there once in ten years or once ten years. Ago
but google out Downtown. Houston oh, yeah it is. Downtown
but everywhere you go but Downtown austin's. Bad, unfortunately we
don't have a place for soling ourselves like. Reputation SO
i went To. SEATTLE i had a great, time and
people were like, hey somebody literally was reaching out to me, like,
HEY i saw you went To, Seattle like how was
it with the homeless. People i'm, like, yeah there's homeless,
people but you, know everybody was just keeping. Themselves it's
you see homeless people in big. Cities, yeah the only
city In. America AND i hate to say this BECAUSE
i do like the city that it's troubling that It's. Portland,
Portland i've heard of. That it's really it's. TOUGH i
don't do a lot of walking Around. Portland it's just
it's it's. Dangerous. Franklin so, Yeah Frank gore in The Houston,
Takeover niners Take. Off will be talking to him coming
up in a little, bit and he's going to make
an appearance as soon as he gets on the line
here in a few. Minutes we'll be happy to promote that.
Event big news story of TODAY fba making arrest and
AMBLING nba gambling investigation Involving Terry rozier at the former
the Current Miami heat thirty four. Arrests then you have
a separate illegal poker fixing mafioso For Family. Tie it's
Got Chauncey billups. Involved and here's the strange. Thing AND
i brought this up very brief in the first. Hour
Damon jones who went to The university Of houston PLAYED
i want to say ten years in THE, nba gave
or take something like. That played With lebron In cleveland
THAT i want to, say maybe even play with him In.
MIAMI i don't have his in front of me.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he played With. Cleveland he didn't play In
miami With. Lebron but he was on the five championship
team With. Miami, Oh Damon jones was so he didn't
win a championship With. Lebron we know they wanted to know. Six,
sorry they lost The Eastern finals that. Year they want
to know six then With wade And. Check, yeah And
damian was part of that. Team he was part of
the team no the year. Before let me tell you
About Damon. Jones i'm trying to phrase his. Properly i'm
not trying to hide anything BECAUSE i. DON'T i don't
know him super, well BUT i would say one to.
TEN i know him, five, okay better than most PEOPLE
i know in my.
Speaker 3: Life.
Speaker 1: Man was you know most peop were zero summer? Ten
what AM i? Three? WELL i Like damon as a.
Person he AND i have gotten along. Great we've had
great talks about THE nba and, life and it's been
a guest on this. Show he's been a guest on
the show before he may he had a cup of
coffee with THE. Espn he did some stuff with me
when we were ON csn together back in the day
when The Comcast Sports net was. Around eleven years in
THE nba now as a fringe, Player, yeah but was able,
to you, know acquire eleven years OF nba service, time
service time and you, know twenty one point seven million
dollar career. Earnings, yeah it feels about right for guy
during playing his, time it was never a guy that
was a heavy rotation. Guy and you, know he And
lebron were very. CLOSE i don't they still are to this.
Day lebron will tell you they're. Not, Yeah lebron will
Say damon. Who but there were times that When lebron
was still playing in THE nba That Damon jones was
his personal shooting coach and Wherever lebron Went Damon John
IF i IF i needed to Find Damon, jones it
was usually WHERE i could find with The lakers or
or The cavaliers were playing primary The. Cavaliers so from
a personal perspective of, this for, me. Friends this kind
of hurts BECAUSE i Know damon has had some past.
TRANSGRESSIONS i don't know what they. Are in, PARTICULAR i
was told through a friend of a friend of a
couple of years ago That damon reached out to me
about some work AND i did some back channeling and they,
said you probably don't want to push that too.
Speaker 3: Far.
Speaker 1: Hm whether this has to do with this or character,
issues or whatever the case may, be you, Know damon
was a good communicator but never got a television. Job
he was Around Lebron james and was a, coach but
never got a chance to be A i think maybe
A he might have been in a full time assistant
one year or so in HIS nba, career maybe, two
but never a long Term so there were some troubled
spots in his. LIFE i don't know what they. Are
but even with that being, SAID Rossi i'm. STUNNED i
know somebody That i've had a relationship with in the
past that was part of a mafioso illegal poker operation
that took, PEOPLE i want to say innocent, people but
took people for millions of dollars in a poker. Game
when everything about the poker game was rigged from the
cards to the data, intelligence to video. Cameras apparently they
had special contact lenses in their eyes those medical the. Cards,
yeah Which, john that comes to no. Surprise don't mean
there's there's there's. Technology it's amazing for everybody right now
at this. Point, well so.
Speaker 7: We really don't think from earlier this year When Gilbert
arenas got, arrested he didn't say anything about, this this
scheme for them to like clarify like a little ten
Foilve july.
Speaker 1: Thirty, yeah maybe Hosting. Leah it might be the same.
People this mightus dim from that When Gilbert arenas was
arrested In. July so, apparently and Again i'm gonna need
to do some more reading on this because this literally
came down with them, before like an hour before our show.
Started they they were trying to course people to play
in these games that they, ragged and they, said, Hey
so the question, is how do the mafia families or
the people that were organizing get To Chauncey. Billups why
Are Chauncey billups of all, PEOPLE i mean, You Chauncey
billups is a GREAT nba basketball. Player maybe he loves
poker in a mid level, coach but, THERE i, mean
why didn't they go after bigger? Fish why didn't they
Call Michael? Jordan why didn't they call, uh let's just
go With Patrick ewing as an all TIME nba. Gray
why didn't they call? Anybody they wouldn't Got Chauncey billups
and people, said you're gonna give me a chance to
play poker With Chauncey. Billups i'm, In and that's exactly what.
Happened And Chauncey billups was in on. This they have code,
names and this is the press conference was talking. About
they have code names for people that organize, it they
have code names for people who were intimately involved in.
It and apparently at the poker, games everybody this again allegedly,
everybody Including Damon jones And Chauncey billups were aware of
what was going. On they're gonna deny. IT i would, imagine,
hmm this is. Crazy, YEAH i don't. Know maybe they
Knew Chauncey billups is an avid poker player like to.
Play maybe they, said, hey you come to this, game
we'll give you a half off on your buy ins
or something like. That who knows any number of million
things could have. Happen the problem is, like But, rossie
they weren't real. Games they weren't need to buy, engin
buy anything. In you, were you were taking, money money
from you were bringing people. In, yeah just you got
to sit down with. Money, though he's gonna sit down
on the table with Some, hey why Doesn't chauncey have any?
Money he's, Fine Chauncey, phillips who's got A portland team
that's not going to be a. Contender but The trailblazers
is an organization gave him his first head coaching job
and gave him a new, contract especially even after all
the years if utility they, have he's already gonna say
we already. Know he's going to say he didn't, know.
RIGHT i, mean that's what's gonna. HAPPEN i had no.
IDEA i THOUGHT i was just playing poker with my.
Buddies isn't that what you have to? Say? YEAH i think.
SO i mean once they get a text me like
how much do they? Have do they have text? Messages
AND i mean we read the statement from uh Terror
rose years and again we need to make sure we're
very clearing. This there are two separate cases going. On
there is point, shaving there is game. Fixing Ontario roseiers,
side The Chauncey Billups Damon jones side has a legal
illegal card game o by mafia. Families six, yeah, Six
so there's. Thirty there was thirty four. Rests there are
thirty seven, defendants which MEANS i guess three people they
weren't able to arrest for whatever. Reason, okay six defendants
accused of them involved in sports, betting and thirty one
defendants of all involved in the rigged poker. Games ohty thirty,
One so that's some. Meaning that means like, dealers chip,
runners it's. Chefs from What i'm reading on, this it's
the people that set up the. Cameras it's members of
each of the crime. Families, yeah it's everybody at the.
Table it's THE i believe it could even go as
far as there are people that created these false card,
decks that created these things be. Involved the dealer is.
Involved they from WHAT i, heard, AGAIN i was listening
AS i was driving into, work everybody at the table
except the people that were the we would you call,
him that's the, mark The. Marks, yeah everybody except The
marks knew how this was going to end and by
the marks losing all the money they got to make
a movie about the undercover agent that got all. This like,
that that's WHAT i really want to. Know that's actually
a good side of you can see you can you
can make two different movies out of. This it's an.
Anthology sounds like a mini. SERIES i want to see the.
DOCUMENTARY i want to see the real. Story, yeah that's.
True seven one three two trust we Left, Jim. Trusty
it's better than having an. Attorney. Craig i'll get you,
Out Larry, Shifty all, right that's.
Speaker 2: ENOUGH i.
Speaker 1: THINK i think we've we think of we buried this
one another break seven? Three we we Think, Frank, YEAH
i Mean, frank we're waiting for. You you're the third
leaning rushing in THE. Nfl he's, like, Man i'm the
third leaning RUSHER nfl hit. Story i'll call you an
on damn old. Please that's. True he can't.
Speaker 2: As WHAT i.
Speaker 1: Expect this is getting juicier and juicier we. HAVE i
just don't get. It come up at eleven thirty to,
Day Frank gore, apparently let's See frank or doesn't call
Any he's gonna get down my. List where's the under
list on? That don't do, THAT i, mean don't do.
That we've been promoting the Helling ben on the. Show
he's busy with The Niners. Nation. YEAH fbi allegens To
Terry rogier told gamblers he would leave A hornets game
early and to take the under and all of his
fantasy player. Stats two hundred thousand dollars in waiters were,
placed and he left the game after nine. MINUTES fbi
says they later counted the cash one on the bets
at his. Home at his, home you GOT Nba. Central
this is this Is they're, legit, correct own, boy make
sure you're SENTEL i blocked the other. One Leron james
reportedly the Player Damon jones used inside info about before
A february twenty Third Bucks lakers. Game this is per The.
Athletic jones allegedly told others to bet On milwaukee after
learning would sit out with ankle soreness before it was
on the injury. Report, hmmm so that bet does tie
in both Because damon's involved with both of the point.
Shavings So Damon jones heard That lebron was gonna sit
out and then let the gamblers.
Speaker 3: Know.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes by the, way THE nba moments ago in
definitely Suspending Terry rogier And Chauncey. Billups let me read
the statement from THE. Nba it says we are in
the process of reviewing the federal indictments announced. Today Terry
roger And Chauncey billups are being placed on immediate leave
from their. Teams we will continue to cooperate with the relevant.
Authorities we take these allegations with the utmost seriousness and
the lung integrity of our game remains our top. Priority
there's no gambling tab to, it like go visit this
and none of that. TIME i know true thinking sports
AREV i didn't say a. Word, well you know if
you if you were in the category of if we
don't need sports betting in this, country not that it's
Gonna texan can't do, this but this is one feather
in your.
Speaker 8: CAP i.
Speaker 1: Certainly was and am an advocate for allowing sports. Gambling
it's our own. Money we can do what we. Want
if you want to get ten twenty bucks, down you
want to get a couple of five dollar. Parlays of,
course some people can't control, themselves like anything we're running
too issues where these sports. Books first of, ALL i
didn't know it was going to be plastered all over
every single little thing and every every little piece of
every broad, broadcasting middle of, games middle of that bets
where you're having it pop up like, that that's a
little bit over, exposure especially when you consider a lot
of these sports books cut players off who are actually,
sharp winning. Players they either a throttle your, bets as
in make you you can only make a maximum of
a ten dollars twenty dollars, bet or they just could
they stopped taking your action. Completely when you hear ads
on this radio station in, particular or any radio station
that you listen To DraftKings pick, Six, yeah they're. Not
the sports profession isn't worried about you because you're generally
speaking LIKE i have a friend of mine who always
tells me about all his bets And i'm, like, oh
so you're really, Cashing and he always sends me, Back
i've only been five. Dollars you know What i'm. SAYING
i know who you're talking. ABOUT i, think, yeah HAVE
i gambled with him? Before you might. Have he's screaming
at the top of his lungs of the, book And i'm, like,
dude you got a five dollars partly. Relax yeah, yeah,
HEY i, like, yeah that's, fine but don't act like
you you put ten g's on the, Game you're, like
come on rap yeah, yeah like oh, man this guy's really.
Hurting AND i am that Person ross because when you
AND i go to Like, Charles i'll put twenty five
dollars on and a half in a, game Or i'm
going to bet twenty five dollars a hand on Black.
CHICK i can make that back in five seconds or
lose more of it in five. Second that's the casual
sports gambling THAT i, Feel, yeah we should all be
allowed to. Do it makes it more, fun makes it more,
interesting something into root for a little bit more for
otherwise not ascret. Games so my point is when you hear,
commercials it's they're not trying to get to your weaknesses
in your. Life they're getting to the people that want
to spend one hundred dollars a month or maybe five
hundred dollars a, year or maybe maybe they're this season
about a team and but a bunch of disposable. Income
that's not who those gambling websites are going After, Vegas Atlantic.
City the books that are heavily promoted in, person they're
the ones that are looking to grab, ten, fifteen, twenty
twenty five thousand dollars. Bets and that's the ones they
keep a much bigger eye on than you AND i
betting fifteen dollars on whether or. Not let's See Zach
flowers gets six. Receptions Save flowers get six receptions in a?
Game you know WHAT i? Mean, yeah there's too many
fish to. Fry they're not worrying about us sold small
little guppies out, there but NOW i think you're going
to have to THE nba is there's no little guppies
everybody in THE. NBA i don't know if the average
the lowest salary is for AN nba, player BUT i
would think the league minimum these days is pretty. Hefty,
YEAH i, MEAN i would think with what is the
AVERAGE nba player make ranny that you've also got guys
making forty fifty million dollars a, year with guys making
two or Three but you, know you're talking about a
group of four hundred and fifty. Millionaires you're talking about
in THE. Nfl you're talking about, well there's thirty two
teams about fifteen sixty hundred players of. Millionaires so you
have NO nba, Experience league minimums one point one, million
then it goes up to one point eight if you
have one year of. Experience, okay so everybody's going everybody
that wears AN nba uniform is a. Millionaire, yes they
would have much more disposable, income they would have an.
Opportunity they would also be people that would people would
want to pray. On and apparently on this This Terry rosier,
game it was two hundred thousand dollars that was Bet
and Again i'll go. Back he made one hundred and
thirty five million dollars in his career and two hundred
thousand was bet on this. Game, like what is he
getting mixed? Up that's Why I'm is it his money
or is it? Somebody two hundred thousand dollars across all
the betting sites or sports books that they found were
bet on his Under but let me ask you. This
if you've got a lifelong friend who was there for
you when your mother, died or was there when you were,
shoplifting or you got your first weed, arrest that covered
your end on, it or, hey when you were down
and out and you had no, money that gave you
a money to get to get a plane ticket home
to see your grandmother before she. Pad there's going to
be some debts in life that no money amount can.
Cover so if that friend of yours comes to you and, says,
Hey i'm in a tough financial, spot can you do
me a solid here and not feel so good at
the nine minute mark of a game where you're supposed
to do with the overunder and your number is thirteen.
Points i'm not saying you should do. It i'm NOT
i want to make sure you're not. Saying i'm just
saying that there are vulnerabilities out there in life that
make you do a rational. Thing, well you need to
be smart enough to know that that's going to set
off red flags that somebody that's that, Ross well they're
not smart, enough. Clearly and so it was two hundred
thousand dollars is spread over multiple. Accounts apparently they had
like all these dummy, accounts some of them betting like
as little as three hundred. Dollars it all adds up and,
yeah once they once they find, it one hundred people
betting three thousand dollars or three hundred. Dollars, then, yeah
when a Normal Terry rose they have numbers number what
a Normal Terry rosier under gets on a game to game,
Basis and when then the alarm bells go, off when
more bets than normal go off on, that it's it's
just this is. Ridiculous this is crazy at. Minimum now
ross the alarms are going off a lot. Sooner, yeah
they monitor, stuff and they'll pull stuff off the board
when they they do that anyways with. Stuff AND i
don't even know if the line of communication Between Las
vegas and these leagues are, There but IF i see
those nine of numbers coming in On Terry, rochier would
you lab a phone call THE nba? IMMEDIATELY i would, Imagine,
yeah there's just more to this, there there's there's gonna
be more to. This, oh there's no. Question because you've
got you've got three, men and we got we got
thirty people all together that are gonna be facing prison. Time,
yes so they're all gonna have their own individual. Case
i'm assuming six with, gambling thirty one with the rigged poker,
games which we haven't really touched much. On BUT i,
MEAN i don't know how much there is to get into. That,
yeah seven one three, five, seven hoy Are thanks To
Frank gore for joining us here in this half. Our
thanks For Frank Frank. Gore he's busy what it can be.
Doing he's, retired third leading, rushing he's got a bad.
Signal he's stuck In houston. Traffic WHEN i ask him
to come, here we're asking to join us on the.
Phone so What i'm saying he's, In he's at a
bad spot and stuck in. Traffic it's bad. Combo maybe's.
On maybe he's on the Golf. Mexico maybe he's placing some.
Bets don't put that shame. Out i'm just. Kidding he raised.
This please don't beat me, Up Frank. Gore Frank gore
crushed you right. NOW i am you know what Those
miami guys are seven one three two one two Five,
sevenintie it's time for us to ask you a very simple, Question,
ross what don't you GET i, GOT i don't Get Terry.
ROSEIER i don't Get Terry rozier. IN i don't get
GETTING i DIDN'T i don't Get while there's mafioso still
in twenty twenty, Five what don't you get seven one
three two one two FIVE seventinni we're here to help.
You seven one three two one two Five, sevenini it's
A Matt Thomashield. ROSS i just don't get. It next
On Sports talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5: Do you have something in your life that just don't?
Get no need to, worry no need To we will
just do the. Something just see if we comprehend the things.
Speaker 1: That they can use our. Friends it's time to SAY
i just don't get?
Speaker 2: It all, right?
Speaker 1: Gang what don't you? Get where we give? ADVICE i don't.
KNOW i don't always know if it's good, advice but
we at least do it for a half hour per
week on The Matt Thomas Shoe ross things in your
life you just don't. Get we can either say, yeah
we don't get it, either or or we say, YEAH
i get. It let me give you. One this is
a rowly. Minor. One people have told me FOR i
don't know twenty years how they don't Watch Saturday Night.
LIVE i just had this conversation two days, ago and,
UH i don't want a. City. HUH i don't watch,
it BUT i believe You, OKAY i believe that eighty
percent of the people that tell me they don't Watch
Saturday Night live Watch Saturday Night. Live interesting explain they
know more about, it, like, OH i haven't WATCHED snl
in forever that last WEEK i SAW i was look
at some of the highlight, like wait a, minute did
you watch? It or did you not watch? It, NOW
i guess the question would, be is if you watch the, clip,
yes does that count as well watching the? Show kind of,
not but, YEAH i don't watch. It but when there's
a really funny, one it's generally it'll come across my, timeline,
Right LIKE i watch SNL's clips on THE Snl twitter. Account,
yes some of them are in my especially old ones
will be like in my YouTube, algorithm, right like the
old classic you, know need more cow bell stuff like?
That tunes is The Driving cat that maybe Class let
me tell you. SOMETHING i used to watch those WHEN
i was nineteen years old and experimenting with beer for
the very first well the very third, time, OKAY i
would we would go out and drink At North texas
and come back to the room and put on tunes
of The Driving. Cat we thought it was the funny
thing we never saw my entire. Life, yeah that was.
Good they used to be on THE E. Network, yeah
they would do the one hour version, dance so they
would cut out all the terrible. Ones, yeah yeah they
still you still got the two musical, acts like three
episodes in a, row AND I i would sit down
AND i would love. Those so you eat those up
with like The dana Car Massive, Headwood, harry the two
dumbest ones THAT i, loved especially WHEN i had a
few beverages in. Me WAS i have had to Win
harry uh and uh and tunes of The Driving. Cat,
yeah It's, pat all that crazy, stuff It's pat. Okay
SO i don't get why people tell me they don't watch,
it but yet they can recite everything that's even happened
during the lean, years, okay like When CHERRY O terry
was doing, things you know WHAT i, Mean and The
chiller thing was okay. Ones she did a Good Barbara.
Walters she did a Fantastic Barbara. Walters SO i will,
SAY i don't get why you guys don't, time you
don't watch it when you really. Do AND i can
still Watch Debbie downer At Disney lang with her family
every week and better laugh Like i'd seen it for
the Very it is an old. Timers the mind's the
minor one this? Week, okay what you got this? Week? Anything?
Man can we just go with this gambling?
Speaker 9: Stuff Is?
Speaker 1: Terry, LIKE i. CAN'T i totally get it money, Greed
but the greatest PEOPLE i know in this world want
more of. IT i understand. That but how has the
league not properly communicated to everyone where it's this, guy
It's Jontay. Porter you, have as we have, said league.
Minimum if you've never set foot on AN nba, Court league,
minimum you're one point one. Million if you've played for a,
year it's one point eight all the way up to
three point three million league. Minimum and only two hundred
thousand dollars was bet on This Terry rozier. Bet how
do these mafioso types not know that this is going
to set off alarm bells? EVERYWHERE i, mean thirty seven
people six involved in the, gambling and however many people
they told to bet had to all be in on
this and not realize that this was going to set
off alarm bells and all these. Sports let me ask you,
this because you're a poker, player If i'm a man
of incredible. Wealth let's Say i'm a. Millionaire, yeah what,
Time i'm presuming the people the marks they got for
this pot illegal poker match where all guys probably millionaires
or then. Something if COULD i go To Lake charles
and go find a really expensive, Game, no that's that's
part of the. Problem that's part of the. Problem so
if you want to go To, vegas they HAVE i
think it's still Have bobby's room in The blagio and
you want to, Play usually it's like one, table, Though
SO i, mean private poker rooms have been a part
of the underground gambling culture since basically for, it it
sounds like to me a will never go away because
IF i have If i'm a man of million IF
i am a guy that makes three million dollars a
year running all In gas com, Huh AND i want
to play, Poker i'm not playing for a twenty five
dollars buy. In, YEAH i want to play for two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars buy. In and those games
are frankly hard to come. By AND i don't want
to have to travel around the. WORLD i don't have
to go To Regio degenaira to play. Poker, yeah. Exactly
they usually run In. Vegas and if you're not In
vegas or literally Like Macaw china and That's. Monaco, like
it's like a handful of. Places if you want to
get down a bunch of, action you've got to find
a private poker. Room generally it's gonna be, underground it's
gonna BE cd and you're gonna have it get. Rigged,
SO i, mean that's another kind OF i don't get,
it but GET i get. IT i guess is that
you just have a. Game you have a terrible trust
factor because you're trusting way too many. People you have
a gambling addiction as. Well so basically the rule should be,
this if you love poker and you're a multi, millionaire
to be perfectly, safe just understand if you're gonna go play,
poker just know that you're not playing for a lot of.
Money if you want to go bet fifty thousand dollars
a hand on, Blackjack Lake charles will take that bet
in a million. Seconds, yeah do. It there's a. Guy
there is a. Guy, recently he's like a. Businessman he
is he had been challenging guys to like heads up
three million dollar, matches LIKE i come to the table
with three, Million you come to the table with three,
million and only one of us is leaving with money
like freeze out matches and stuff like. That they've, been,
uh they've been to getting on stream and. Stuff i've
been watching some of. THOSE i bet you could find,
That oh, yeah, legally BUT i bet a book could
pick that, up, right because you're. Not all you're doing
is you're paying for the Anti, yeah but a lot
a lot of these guys don't want to be ON.
Tv of, course you, know you don't want your family
or whoever else seeing that you're gambling all this. Money
you want to keep it. Private and also if you're
if you're losing your, ask you don't want people knowing
about that. Either so they like private. Games, sorry all,
right and from You johnson for the. Phones don't you
get this?
Speaker 7: WEEK i just don't get when it comes to like
music or, movies when people, say, OH i don't want
to watch it because it's too, sad OR i don't
want to listen to it becau it's gonna make me,
sad or because LIKE i don't, know it doesn't make
sense to.
Speaker 6: Me like.
Speaker 7: Like so let's, say Like, matt for, example he doesn't
want to Watch oppenheimer because he's too much. REAL i
just don't get, that because it's a work of. Art
he's supposed, you supposed to be in a different, places not.
Speaker 1: Real do you get What i'm? Saying, NO i do
not give. LIKE i kind of understand. You But i'm
just gonna tell. YOU I i like WHY i don't
like watching sad. STUFF i, Honestly, jonathan you can't like.
Everything there's nobody in this whole that likes.
Speaker 7: Everything, yes but, like, okay but IT'S i understand that,
point but it's more like, why like what's The sometimes it's.
Speaker 1: Just a Refferen carriots Of fire is one of the
greatest movies ever, made multiple Came award, Winner, Right, Okay
it's about a bunch of running and involves uh classical.
Music doesn't inches. Me i'm never gonna watch. It just
not my cup of. Tea what's the one where the
uh that dog dies moved at the? End not the
Old yeller but the recent, One. Lassie, NO i don't,
KNOW i, KNOW i can think of. IT i can't
get the name under One dalmatians IF i don't Like Corolla.
Speaker 7: Deville i'm not gonna watch, it, sorry or, say, like
what's the one With wilson the volleyball and he's stuck
on the island.
Speaker 1: Castaway that was not that. Sad that wasn't. Saying But
i've met people THAT i, SAY i just can't watch.
It this too sad for. ME i can't do. It
i'm just, like but But, jonathan you. Don't you don't
know WHAT i. Mean it's like food. CHOICES i might
think that Uh alaskan cod is the best fish. Ever
if you don't like, IT i, Mean i'm not gonna
get mad at you for not liking. It you can
there's other things you can like in. LIFE i mean
you can't Just i'll use a zimp of. Phrase you
can't like, Everything, Oh marley And. Me that's WHAT i
was trying to think. Of, YEAH i don't want to
get invested in some dog and then it dies at the. End,
YEAH i don't LIKE i can go to a sad.
Movie i'm in for. THAT i don't like horror. PICTURES
i don't like violence in my.
Speaker 7: Show and Now i'm on the fence BECAUSE i BECAUSE
i get the horror like. Satanic not you don't want watch.
THAT i understand, that you, know, SO i Guess i'm
just on THE i just. Don't i'm just on that.
Fence there no need to.
Speaker 10: Be on the.
Speaker 1: Fence people enjoy what they want to. Enjoy, Jonathan, yeah
but it's. YEAH i try to watch movies that are, considered,
like you, know the best movies of all, time even
if they're going to be set Like Shindler's, list like
that's depressing as, hell, see but it's. So it was
a great piece of. Art at people Love Saving Private. Ryan.
Okay it's about, war it's about, guds it's about tragedy
and great acting. Performances not. INTERESTED i, know it's. Amazing
everyone that says is gone and said it was. Amazing
you're a special. Case you don't watch any good. Movies
you just watch airplanes for THE i, Mean i'm sorry
you haven't Watched Good. Fellas it took it took a
global pandemic for you to Watch The godfather was, good.
Though you're, like, MAN i got nothing to. DO i
Guess i'll kill three hours with The. Godfather, yeah it's, Fine,
Yeah Saving Probably ryan. Incredible you said you haven't Watched platoon,
Nope Thin Red line, Nope Full Metal jacket. Nope apocalypse now.
NOPE i got. IT i gonna, leave all, Right cameron
will start with.
Speaker 6: You what?
Speaker 1: Else what else don't you get besides my movie? Selections?
Uh you know? WHY i Because i'm traveling around the.
State i'm Mister texas seven, one three to. Two i've
got time on these. Planes you're not doing. Jag, yeah
But i'm not going to cry on the plane and be.
Scared you have to hold. ON i don't THINK i.
CAN i can go sit next to Uh Jeff green
and say please hold me because that movie scared. Me you,
COULD i, could BUT i get my ass beat By
Steven adams seven one, three, two one two five seven
Ninety all right on the phones we. Go it's JUST
i just don't get. It this is the half hour
of the. Programmer we can help you with your life's.
Issues agree or. Disagree jonathan is criticizing you if you
don't like every, movie, no whether regardless if it's good or.
NOT i, SAID i just don't get. IT i just
don't get. It we're here to fix. You weekdays ten
to two On Sports talk. Seven, honey let's talk To
cameron patiently waiting on Seven, Hony, cameron thank you for holding.
In good morning to. You, hey good morning.
Speaker 2: Guys so you kind of struck a nerve in a good. Way.
Speaker 11: MATT i don't get why MAD tv is off the
air When Saturday Night live and its current form is
still on the.
Speaker 1: AIR i have never seen an episode of MAD. Tv
what makes it? TODAY i, know isn't that? Crazy? WOW i,
know don't be mad at.
Speaker 8: ME i don't.
Speaker 1: Know, no, no, no it's all good.
Speaker 11: Man at its, prime MAD tv was just you guarantee
laughs for most of the episode every.
Speaker 1: Week, okay and so when was the last time you WATCH?
Speaker 11: SNL i think last season when honestly sn nels at
a point WHERE i feel like the guests are the
only reason people tune, in, like, oh this guy or
this girl on, It, like, Okay i'll check it. Out
but it used to be the cast that best at
now back in the, day would carry the show and
the guests would let the cherry on.
Speaker 1: Top, yeah, yeah that's exactly right. Now Uh, SO i
will just say, This my advice to you, IS i
do believe there is some funny things ON. Snl i'm
telling you the best thing you can do is go
follow them On twitter and just read the clips that,
way or you know There's facebook pages WITH snl clips
on them. Too it gives you a chance to see
the funniest stuff and if you don't like something one
second into, it you just you just click off the.
Thing it makes it, nice nice and. Easy, yeah fair.
Speaker 2: Enough, well, hey, guys appreciate.
Speaker 1: It that have a great. Week thank you friend for
calling the. Show we appreciate. IT i used to watch
a lot of MAD tv back in the. DAY i
Watching Living. Color, uh, yeah that was, good but also
it was it was all. RIGHT i mean it was,
good but he just wasn't as good As saturday And.
Live MAD tv also was kind of like, sup there
were some hits on. There i'm let me tell, You
i'm saying a Good Rick current. Character i'm brutally honest with.
YOU i can still there's Enough Sarenat live in my
life THAT i could watch hours and hours and hours
of my favorite. Clips there are some scenes from every
season and every star. LIKE i can watch some of
the old seventy stuff and love. IT i can love
The Dana, Carvey Wayne's world. WORLD i can go To
Will ferrell And Celebrity jeopardy Even Keenan thompson one of
the GREATEST snl characters of all. Time you, know actors we've.
Known He's fantasy. Five he's not that. GREAT i could
Watch Celebrity, JEOPARDY i could Watch Black. Jeopardy to them
blue in the. Face there is some, funny funny stuff out.
There but just like anything in, life you know about a.
THOUSAND i like to think this show about one. Thousand some.
Days we bet seven. Fifty we're working on. It let's
go To vince At. Midtown, vince what don't you? Get, Hello, Vince,
huh what don't you? Get you were On i'm not. Sure,
YES i don't know. Albuson that's we. Can just Had
cameron he was. On, FINE i don't, Know. Vince call,
Back oh there you?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: There start. Speaking it's not going, Well thank, You. Vince
time to write it.
Speaker 7: Down, hey news on this, Though tom, said getting these
numbers down as like for corporate it has been helping them.
Speaker 1: Finally, okay thank good. Goodness so sometimes people calling their
number there it's their fault or.
Speaker 7: SOMETHING i don't know. Exactly they're trying to find THE ip. Address.
Doing try To vince some more. Time, please let's try
this Is vince. Again let's try this. Again i'll put
them on the.
Speaker 1: Ear. Vince what don't you? Get?
Speaker 6: OKAY i don't get uh that two joints Like Rick
orlay and uh Rodal werger having eight to ten designated
parking spots for, pickup and so WHEN i, go it's
Like i'm looking for parking spots BECAUSE i normally don't
do the drive through and there's no parking. Spots but
they got all these empty, spots you, know designated for.
THAT i usually end up parking, there but just it
doesn't make any sense to.
Speaker 1: ME i just don't get, it. Sir, yeah you know What,
VINCE i would say in THE covid, WORLD i get.
It but in twenty twenty five that were past. THAT
i think the number of people that are calling ahead
and waiting in the car for their food is. DRAMATIC i,
MEAN i would say it's, gone BUT i think it's
dropped right very curb side pickup side. PICKUP i DON'T
i would, SAY i don't get to. This, YEAH i don't.
Speaker 3: Know.
Speaker 1: Now, FORTUNATELY i eat a lot of fast, food which
IS i mean detriment to my life. Overall but you
are kind of the fast food KING i. Am by the,
WAY i was thinking about doing a to tell the
truth on fast foods THAT i like only fast, Food
LIKE i was gonna do it four fast food. Takes
you know what can? Do we'll think we'll do we'll do,
This we'll do A Believe it Or not? Today DO
i like this fast? Food? Okay you THINK i love
it BECAUSE i, MEAN i don't have to write. It
were idea we were gonna. Do we were gonna, do
Uh Frank, gore But, seace he's. No he didn't show.
Up so guys they're. Hurt we got to come cheer him.
Up Who Frank?
Speaker 8: Gore? Uh he?
Speaker 1: Did he did in an. Email he said something's going
on with his, family so hopefully everything's. Okay WELL i
thought we were still gonna get him on, though hm hmm.
Maybe oh well he's supposed to call. Us, yes, yeah
we WIT's out of our. Hands that's. Okay. Whatever so
today's edition To believe Or? Not DO i like this
fast food? Item? Okay And i'll mention the restaurant AND
i will give them a sponsor. Plug. OKAY i don't
like to do that, normally but we'll do. It, Sure why?
Speaker 3: Not all?
Speaker 1: Right? Uh seven one three two one two five seven
ninety seven one three two one two five Seven Ati
geo's with us Geos, geo what don't you? Get all?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 12: Man SO i saw, THIS i want to, say last,
weekend maybe even uh more and more behind than, that
BUT i WATCHED i was WATCHING une channel two one
night AND i saw the segment with you and your
daughter and the volleyball in high school and, great, man it, was,
man great.
Speaker 13: Stuff you have a lovely. Family that that.
Speaker 1: Was that was.
Speaker 13: Beautiful but WHAT i don't get is it was my
first time actually seeing. You i've always heard your, voice
BUT i never saw. You AND i don't, get, man
that your head is.
Speaker 1: Huge.
Speaker 13: Man maybe just start calling you Like thom this, dude
like that's your conference on that. Thing it's just like, enormous.
Speaker 2: Dude BUT i, mean you, KNOW i just don't get, that.
Speaker 13: Man And i've been waiting to tell you that for
the long. DISTANCE i saw it and said it was
the first.
Speaker 2: Opportunity so thank you for that.
Speaker 4: Opportunity.
Speaker 1: Gill it's my pleasure to do that for, You. GEO
i need you just for your fir reference to send
me a picture of, yourself because, Dog i'll go at
you ten times harder love. You it is my head too?
BIG i don't think. So i'm used to. IT i
think it's. NORMAL i, HONESTLY i mean we're talking about,
ego where we're talking about physical, physical physically. Ego, yes
too big. Physically, no he said you look good chuck a.
Dot that's, yeah that's kind of. Weird don't look don't
look that, Up. Matt i'm not going. To don't look
Up JUGGERNAUT x, Men. Jonathan is my head physically too?
BIG a good size head? Regular, yeah if it's if
it's your, mond it's.
Speaker 7: Not like mega mind at this. Move that's How geo
was saying. It oh, MAN i thought you a size, head.
Speaker 1: AND i think YOU'RE i THINK i. Have, yeah normally
you get a normal size.
Speaker 3: Head.
Speaker 1: MATT i Think rossa the might be bigger than. Yours
that's that's. True geo, again send me a photo of
yourself AT mt at sports seven onety dot com SO
i can give you the once, over BECAUSE i can
promise you will not be good for. You appreciate, You,
gio thank you for always. Listening THANKS geo and my,
again there's. Issues there's things in my life that are
bigger than the average. PERSON i don't. KNOW i don't
think my head is one of those. Things happy birthday
to my. Wife by the, Way happy Birthday Missus, Thomas
you And. TEXAS i don't care if you. Do you
remember the? Family, YEAH i am, yeah.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 1: Right that was a way to officially buzzkill a segment
seven one, three two one two, five seven Ninety the
news that noon is next In. Rossie you got some
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Thomas show With. Ross it is twelve o three in each.
Town welcome to the third hour The Matt Thomas show
With ross here On Sports talk seven ninety where we
have got some juicy news to get to today as
we present to you the news At New. Ross this
stuff came down this. Morning there was a mega press
conference involving two different gambling allegations involving current and FORMER
nba players and current. Coaches, Yes, Matthew john C, Billups Terry,
rosier And Damon. Jones the most prominent figures of thirty
four total people arrested the result of a year's long
investigation covering eleven states involving tens of millions of. DOLLARS
fbi Director Cash betel saying other law enforcements also saying
the multiple chargers involve four mafia, families organizzed and organized crime,
networks and a mind boggling amounts of. Fraud rosier and
other defendants had access to private information known BY nba
players OR nba coaches likely to affect the outcome of
games or players, performances provided that information to co conspirators
in exchange for either a flat fee or a share
of betting. PROFITS Us attorney for The Eastern, District Joseph Nokela,
junior calling it one of the most brazen sports corruptions
since online sports betting became widely legalized in The United.
States phillips is in a separate indictment involving a wide
ranging scheme to rig underground poker games that were backed
by mafia, families and everything about the games were. Corrupt,
yes from the, cards to the, dealer to the, shuffler
to the glasses they Were apparently they had to contact
lenses where they could read you, know certain they could
read the cards. Basically so there are six defendants accused
of involved in the sports betting, case thirty one defendants
involved in rigging the poker. Games jones is one of
three people allegedly involved in both. Cases there were suspicious
betting activity On rosiers statistics ahead of The Charlotte Hornets
New Orleans pelicans game On march twenty, third twenty twenty.
Three an ex unexpected surge of bets came in on
the under On rosiers, plays, rebounds and, assists which calls
the sports books to halt the. Betting and then he
left the game after just ten minutes with a foot,
injury allegedly. Alleged rosier's, Lawyer Jim, Trustee Jim, trusting when
you need an, attorney you, Called Jim trustee said in
a statement that his client is not a gambler and
looks forward to winning this. Fight, look we are not the,
court we are the court of public. Opinion you're telling.
Me THE fbi spent three years on, this on both
these things then and they had this massive press conference
and they went arrested three prominent sports, athletes well man.
TWO i, Mean damon's not been in the limelight in a.
While but my point is that you went to arrest
a CURRENT nba player and a current. Coach you don't
think the eyes are not dot and the teas aren't
crossed on? This, oh your eyes are. Well this story
has been updated That i'm reading right. Now so, yeah
the poker games were rigged through using, technology as you,
mentioned the shuffling, machines hidden poke cameras and poker chip,
trays sunglasses AND x ray equipment built to the table
to read the. Cards the scheme targeted, fish which is
just a term for a bad poker, player and they
rigged the games for them to play alongside former athletes
known as face. Cards One fish said the mafia used
extortion and violence to make sure they paid their gambling.
Debts investigators found the scheme involved members and associates of The, Banano, Gambino,
luchesy And genevie's crime. Families not to go along with
the lines of the Generic italian name, mafioso which of
the five families was left out? There the rigatonis Matt
they're not The riseroni. Family you. Know i've been to
a mafia wedding BEFORE i told you before you have,
yeah my, uncle my great. Uncle, no let me, see,
no my great. Mycey it's my mom's first, cousin so
that would be what my second? Cousin, sure why not
married into A michigan mafia family and we went to
the wedding, Allegedly, no. ALLEGEDLY i looked it up On. Google,
okay by a good TIME i? WAS i THINK i was,
eleven had a good, time, danced food was. Good that's.
GOOD a lot of. Security come, on, Thanks. Matt that
anecdote The columbo. Family one are the four of The
you think The columbo families, Like, hey what about? Us
we like to rig poker? Games what did we do?
Wrong come, on, guys we're just playing. Cards that's a
one victim alone losing one point eight million. Dollars, now
do you think that person went to THE fbis and
something as a muck or do these probably they're just.
Embarrassing they were getting extorted in violence threatened. Apparently hmm.
OKAY i like this tweet From Dan. Wetzel word to the,
wise that illegal underground high six poker game you're playing
in might be. Rigged that's. Crazy oh, wow all, right,
well elsewhere do we even want to get to this?
News matt about wimby The San Antonio. Spurs, oh here
we go all last? Second do it in droopy dog
face victim.
Speaker 9: Winby yam when it's going funny points against The danny's Mamerick.
Speaker 1: Uh The mavericks beat The.
Speaker 9: Spurs we beat the sween neat to may reach win
twenty filam tune gee, UH.
Speaker 1: I stated earlier in the first hour of the. Show
AND i honestly can't think of a reason to back
off of.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: Yet we're talking about the most talented player to at
ever walk foot on AN nba. Court he Made it's
not that he scored forty points on fifteen of twenty one,
shooting with fIF teen rebounds in three blocks and assistant a.
Steel it's that he was going up Against Anthony davis
and making him look like his like a dad playing
in the driveway with his teenage, son not even teenage,
son preteen, son and dunking all over him for one
last hurrah before he grows. Up he little Browed Anthony
davis for forty minutes and hit threes. Too thirty. Minutes
he scored forty points in thirty minutes on twenty one
shots as The spurs dominate The mavericks to a one
to twenty five to ninety two. Victory cooper, fly by the,
way was with four for thirteen in his. DEBUT i
think something like four for, thirteen ten points in thirty two,
minutes ten. Rebounds that, way if you're A maverick fan
and you get the chances to see the first game
of the, season number one overall, pin number one overall,
pack this is gonna be a guy that makes you
want to, Say luca who And victor goes in your
building and beats the crap out of. You it wasn't
even at these highlights of what he's. Doing he's jab,
stepping pump, faking, windmilling dunky around the around the. GOAL i,
mean these highlights are. Insane he's pulling off four or
five pump fakes using his pivot foot Against Anthony. Davis
he's making who is That Derek? White he's making that
guy look like he's a child blocking. Him and then
he's hitting step back. Threes he takes one step back
and he goes. Back, hey look. Bad how many feet
back does he go on one step back about six.
Traveling that's not a. Travel it wasn't a teleporting around the.
Floor this is a, problem. Folks Anthony davis was what
six and nineteen during the course of seven to twenty two,
Overall Lord Adam, CLANTON i mean hope that you're. Right
that attendance hurts him for a long. Time but And
Jay billis said during the, game it looks like he's
playing on a on a nerve goal and at your,
house and that's what it looks. Like it's not. Good
we got a. Problem we got a. Problem you know,
what we don't have a. Problem we just have an.
Irritant have prayed For. Victor of course of, it there
is not really there is no precedent for somebody as
big and wiry as he is to have a story
long term. Career the odds are he's gonna break. Down
guess you know, what here's the it's not the it's
it's actually Fra. Ross it's the. Favorite because guys that
are seven foot would you, say ther's all the. Same
the odds, are, yeah he's gonna break. Down, YEAH i
mean it can Have it's been happening To Chet. Holmer
but guess what if he's available for the, playoffs it don't, matter,
Right BUT i put this, Way we're not looking ten
or fifteen years on the, road but we are going
to look at players that have finished THEIR nba. Careers
how many seven foot three in above have long lasting
twelve thirteen year. Careers Maybe Mark, eaton but he was
never considered an offensive. Threat. Yeah the shooting touch that he,
has the way that he moves around for as big
as he, is the dribbling, skills it's. Unprecedented, Sorry, matt
anything else is any positive to talk about? TODAY U Texanton.
Niner he's gonna play On. Sunday Liono messi has extended
his contract With Inter miami through twenty twenty. Eight that
was WHAT i was not looking. For, oh no one
was looking for. THAT i, Mean I'm i'm glad he
got his. Contract he's obviously. Happy we gonna know what
games are coming To, houston by the, way for The World,
cup but we know who's playing, whom and WHAT i
don't know could be LIKE i don't Know qatar Versus
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PLAYER i would Say George. Harrison, OH i was gonna
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here's the, Goat Jimmy hendricks Or Stevie rayvon to, Me
i'm not going To Rolling. Stone had to, say Because
Rolling stone always changes up their answers every other, year
like they've Had jimmy number one for a. While, Okay
i'm JUST i just think they feel like they've changed
a bunch of the last over do some some shuffling.
Around here's here's my quick. Thought greatest guitar, Player paul,
McCartney the greatest, Drummer Ringo, Starr oh my, god another
great guitar, player of, Course George, harrison greatest drummer of all,
Time John, Bonham Neil peart up, There Ringo Star. Ginger
what was his? Name, Baker Ginger. Baker, YES i believe
bad Batt Lee Boy brown also on that list as.
Well no he's, Not and, that my, friends is the. News.
Dude all, right so today's, EDITION i believe or, Not
i'm already working. On are fast foods THAT i may
or may not. Like SO i would say if you've
listened to the show for any length of, time you
probably have a pretty good guest on some of, these
but not. Automatically, okay seven, one, three, two one, two,
five seven, nine we got The rotten five coming up
in thirty five. Minutes Willie fritz first weekly appearance at
one thirty, Today Adam clinton's tweeting text, Again i'm, sorry
what was he? Saying let's say enjoy That french bum
while he. Lasts Does ross need to change his? Pants
why you need to change your?
Speaker 8: Pants?
Speaker 1: Sorry he's selling yourself right, now literally going like anybody
that follows THE nba and knows what they're talking. About
this the dude is an insane generational. Talent i'm, Sorry,
Adam you're. Wrong it just is what it. IS i
don't want it to be the way that it, is
but it is what it. Is you call. It he's
not a, bum not a, bum But i'm not putting
him in your category until there is great. Attendance, Okay
well he's on the short. List he certainly made her
saying while he's on the, floor why isn't the? Floor
but as a wise man wants tom Me, Ross, uh
you know attendance is part of the. Grade, well he's
on the floor right. Now that's all we have to
go on twelve, sixteen it's A Matt thomas Schol ross
come out and join us seven one three two one
two five seven ninety worring from The rockets just a
few minutes. Ago The rockets starting five tomorrow against the
trot will be the same starting five that you saw
opening night Against Oklahoma. City it'd Be, Thompson, Durant, Smith
shanngou And. Adams you surprised by that a little bit
with The thunder Having hardenstein And holngren start Or Hardenstein.
HARTENSTEIN i figured they they would go, double they would
go with the Big. Uh they call it the sky. Lineup,
well we call it the skyline the SKYLINE. U apparently
The rockets use that in aggressive Sky. Lineup don know
if they got it from our, Guy, Darren, darren if
you got bet. Stolen first of, all, Sorry second of,
all what happens to all of us hashtags the? Club,
yeah welcome to the Hashtag welcome to the, club, hashtag Crush, city.
Hashtag i'm gonna sell it To roraderie and they're gonna
make money off of. It i'm gonna get, nothing But
i'm not. Bitter twelve twenty two on seven ninety seven
one three two one two five Seven, honey would you
say it seems like You're, Oh i'm a lot. Better
how Long i've been talking about this for ten? YEARS i?
Think so don't you let things go after a while
and then you don't sense it's bitterness you're supposed To,
Well So i'm, saying if there's a girl that left
you m, hm and you don't talk about her ten
years after you've gone, out you've gone. On but if
you bring up the horror, name then you definitely are
in a situation where you get live and let Go, Matt,
yes of the past feature is Now typically you, would,
Yeah but if she's a horror and married somebody, else
then you're in a. Problem, no you're not in a.
Problem you need to let. Go, Okay i'm not living
to let. Live i'm not letting go at a crush.
CITY i should need to let. GO i should have
at least gotten a season full of tickets or, something,
okay or maybe a check saying we're. Sorry all, right
back to the rockets. Start that's so the big against
the pist about, ME i. Apologize, uh we're very. Surprised
Houston rockets minus five and a half. Tomorrow, yeah The
pistons last night lost in. Shook i'll go to The.
Bulls so auser who is the twin of a men
last night thirty three, minutes five of eight from the
floor at eleven, points seven, assists nine rebounds on a block.
Shot he's just like his, brother he just. Is they're,
very very. Similar right, Now i've not seen enough Of
auscer to tell me what he does better or worse
than a man. Does But i'll see it tomorrow. Night
we go to see those two guys on the floor
at the same. Time also last night in THE, nba
and that's that were a huge NOT i, mean we're
we're working our way to becoming a DECENT nba city
with The. Rockets but in THE nba last, night besides
The San Antonio dallas, game which was a, Blowout Dylan
brooks scored Twenty i'm gonna say twenty two for The
Phoenix suns in his first game as a member of The.
SUNS i Believe Jalen green did not play because of. Injury,
oh what's?
Speaker 14: Wrong with.
Speaker 1: HIM i don't know the exact, injury BUT i don't
think he's playing an opening. Night, yeah he didn't. Play.
Yeah they beat The kings one twenty to one sixteen
and THE La, clippers who a lot of people thought
would be a isn't that that Guy John hullinger who's
nuts dark? Horse they got beat by The jazz In
Salt Lake city by twenty one points one twenty nine
to oneh. Eight this is the old guy's got to loosen.
Up you, know they gonna get ready into the. Season
James harden twenty nine, minutes five of twelve from the,
floor fifteen, points eleven. Assists Bradley beal played twenty minutes
and scored. Five Kawhi leonard twenty nine minutes and scored.
Ten Chris paul of the bench played fifteen minutes and scored.
Four they are they are damn. Old they're just period.
Old even The bots is. Old two for. Them so
there you. Go so that's kind of the rundown on
what's happening in THE. Nba, uh we've not talked much
about The texans. Today they are back on the practice. Field,
rossie did you see the injury report. Yesterday Christian kirk
is out with a hammy, Still Nico collins and concussion.
Protocol great. Battlered how are they going to beat The
niners this? Week, well they're favored with the running game and.
Defense Is Brock purty gonna play for? Them? Uh you know,
what let me check the injury port he? Does he,
Is hell's Rough riders are one and. Six they Got
Brock party Or Cow's Rough. Riders we've had a lot
of injuries and we had a bad. Draft what you,
Are i'm the cult in our fantasy league and you're The.
Texans you were supposed to be heavily favorite and you're five. Back,
well we had a bad draft and a lot of.
Injuries other than, that things are going. Great San francisco
injury Port, uh quarterback limited Limited Brock, party by the,
way also full Participant Mac jones who has a knee
and a blaque. Injury so they got two quarterbacks that
may not be complete one hundred percent for that. Game,
Jeez do you think we'll ever ever hear the in
depth stuff about The texans? Anymore do you think That
demiko is so we're coach speak that nothing's going to ever?
CHANGE i don't really understand kind of what you're. Saying
i'm saying he is, so he's, so we got to play,
better we got to coach. Better that that that that
verbiage maybe so ingrained into his pores that he's going
to say nothing. Else that's probably. GOOD i, mean, yeah
we have basically three years of. Sample, now he's just coach. Speak.
Guy he did call out the offense a little, bit
the offensive line right well ON cj a little bit, Too,
Yes and my belief is, so, yeah maybe it's not
all coach. Speaking it's Ninety can you can read between
the lines on some of the things that he, Said,
YEAH i think it. Was was it this this one from?
Speaker 14: YESTERDAY i think the most frustrating thing for me is
things we've, covered things we've worked in practice that we
get in the, game and it's just it's not getting.
Done we're doing something, Different we're doing things that we're
not coached to. Do that's the most frustrating.
Speaker 1: Thing, yeah my team is. Stupid that's on the offensive.
Line and that's pretty direct for For Damiico ryans saying
we're coaching these things and they're not getting it. DONE
i don't THINK i think it's a deficiency and. TALENT
i don't think what they're doing in the practice field
is not transling into the. Field there's nobody on that
offensive line right. Now maybe with exception Of Titus howard
that you, go that guy's been there and done that
and played at a high. Level that is. True but
you're gonna have five guys on the offensive, line and
if they're not communicating who's picking up, who then you're
gonna have free. Runs it's even. Worse, so, yeah it's it's.
Both they don't have, talent they're not playing. Together, yeah
if you're not gonna have that much, talent you gotta
at least play. Together you got to give your quarterback a. Shot,
now there have been some clean. Pockets it's been a
few more clean pockets the last couple of, weeks and
it was AND i think it'll be better at home
than it has been on the road in loud environments
and stuff like. That won't be loud On sunday allowed
for a little. While so like like mid second, quarter
you mean The niners fans are gonna be. Lowed, hey apparently,
Giants Apparently niner fans run to the building. Quarter but they.
Do there's gonna be a lot Of niners fans. THERE
i don't know why or, how but not those fans
Travel i'll say, This, uh my guess is it's Not
San francisco fan coming. HERE i guess that there's gonna
be some kids that grew up With Joe montana And Jerry.
Rice makes. SENSE i, mean let's face. It, UH i don't.
THINK i don't. KNOW i don't Know steeler fan. Base
But steeler fan base to me is. Generational but you, didn't,
great you. Didn't When Ben roethlisberger was leading The, steelers you.
Didn't he didn't create a generation Of steeler, fans you
know WHAT i. Mean he he, didn't maybe to an
extent in that. Era, No, NO i feel pretty confident.
MYSELF i think that the Again i'm here to paint
with the broad. Brush unfortunately that you were born like
you were born A packer. Fan you. Didn't you didn't all. This,
Now Brett farve could have gotten you in that, CAP
i would, say. SO i, mean, Yeah i'm just crazy
that these teams that win have bigger fan. Bases, yeah
BUT i bet you if you, did you, know we
have to wait to send you on the man on
the street like you used to get back in. TODAY i,
MEAN i, mean you could probably use a check a
little bit of jump change if you went and talked
To San francisco and, y'all if if any any of
y'all going to the game On, sunday go talk to
a guy wearing A niner or a lady talking to
wearing A niner. Jersey how many of them are have
some sort Of Bay area, ties meaning LIKE i grew
up In Santa clara OR i was born In San,
jose armed From San, Francisco and how many of them
are just, MAN i grew up Watching Jerry rice And Joe. Montana,
Look i'm not A niners, fan but Watching Jerry rice
was one of the pure jurors of my. LIFE i,
still for the longest, time Until Tom brady came, around
thought That Joe montana was a quarter's quarterback ever to
play in THE, nfl because ANYTIME i Watched Joe, montana he.
Succeeded in my. Mind they do have a pretty big
national fan. Base they. Do it's actually frankly larger THAN i,
thought because remember think about, it they've been to Some
Super bowls, lately but there was about a ten year
stretch where they were four and twelve a, joke, yeah
and kind of and kind of living off of the
of The it was Like Mike singletary was their coach
and then that guy who is The Nolan. Oham, yeah
they'd always wear the suits and stuff, like, dude you can't.
COACH i don't care what you. Wear you'd be in
a thong on a ting. TOP i wouldn't.
Speaker 8: Care.
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two one two five seven nine zero seven one three
two one two five seven. Night the big news of
the day has been the gambling ring that was busted
up by THE. Fbi Chauncey, Billups Terry, Rosier Damon jones
among those that were arrested today thirty four. Arrests says
thirty seven. DEFENDANTS i don't know if that means three
people are on the lamb or what's going on with.
That and it's, Funny, jonathan you were talking about The
Gilbert arenas tie. Earlier he was arrested On july thirtieth
as part of AN fbi investigation and then released on.
Bond there is a video somebody found Of Gilbert arenas
talking about how he would always gamble With Lebron james
And Damon. Jones See i'm it's like they would Play
apparently they would play. Cards Gilbert arenas is Calling Damon
jones a horrible card, player and he's talking about how
he would talk trash To Damon jones when they were
on the. Floor he'd be, like the landlord's coming here to.
Collect The landlord's coming here to collect Because Damon jones
owed him. Money so it sounded Like David jones liked to.
Gamble there's also a report that he tipped off gamblers
knowing That Lebron james was gonna sit out a. Game
he was at an official member of The lakers coaching
staff during the, season but he did work With james
during his pregame, workouts kind of like as a shooting.
Coach apparently he tipped off he knew That lebron was
gonna sit out with an ankle, injury and before it
was announced, public he had tipped off some gamblers and
then they made some. Bets so, this this is a whole.
Mess this is. Crazy i'm gearing. This i'm, like, Dude
Lebron james gonna have to lawyer up on. THIS i
don't know how culpable he is in all, this and you,
know we don't have any facts and his name hasn't
been mentioned in any of these reports as far as you,
know being a suspect or anything like. That but that's
supposed to be his, boy, Right so like it's like
you guilty by association at That lee's room for. Speculation
Did Lebron james tip them off on purpose so he
could be involved in? This NOW i don't think that
that would. Happen you, know we're talking About Terry rozier
making one hundred and thirty million dollars In Damon James
jones making what he Did Lebron james a. Billionaire SO
i would guess that he's not going To Damon jones and, Saying,
Hey i'm gonna sit out this. Game go ahead and
tell your, boys and then we'll go ahead and clean
up on this. Bet but his name is being mentioned
along with this whole gambling. Scheme my guess is get
away from. Me lemn's not. Stupid, No BUT i was saying, This.
MATT i saw On twitter there there's an old video
Of Gilbert arenas talking about gambling With Damon. Jones and
of Course Gilbert Gilbert arenas was arrested a couple of months.
Ago And i'm also there's this poker farm that he
used to go onto a lot back in the day
called two plus. Two SO i went on here they
have a video of a professional poker player talking About
Chauncey billups and like running these games since twenty, nineteen
and how this guy who was on this pot, cast
he's he's a professional poker players, like, YEAH i stayed
away from that. Game people were trying to convince me
to play the, game but he didn't want to play
in it because he had suspicions that it was that
it was. Rigged so apparently in poker circles this has
been circling circulating for a while That Chauncey billups is
part of a rigged, game and yes he is the draw, like,
hey you can come play With Chauncey billips. Man we
got high, Stakes we've got you, know, food blah blah,
blah anything you want will take care of.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: Come, obviously He chauncey and his poker games didn't hide
the fact he Was Chauncey. Billups my guess, is if
you want to play in high end, games you're gonna
play with some fellow high end game, guys and you're
not gonna let the public know that you do these
side of. Things when he's on these playing these games
and his name is being brought up people because people
want to brag about, it you wouldn't get that's part of.
That that was part of the charm of this was
that he got to brag people these these guys who
are playing these games were bragging About Chauncey billups being
at my. Game, yeah so the victims out they were
playing in straight illegal. Games straight, ILLEGAL i, MEAN i
see exactly, right right. Right the, defendants, uh and they're co.
Conspirators they played together and worked together in. Teams apparently
they sat at the table and we're all reading the
cards and then using what advanced wireless technologies to read
the cards dealt in each hand and pass that information
to them to each. Other maybe they don't do, that
but well PROBABLY i don't. Know if you got, LIKE
i don't know about, you it's come some kind of
signal or But, jonathan they probably had definitely had. Conversations
they were, like, hey you, know if he's strong or.
SOMETHING i don't. Know this is. Wild this is, yeah
like we, said this is like out of a. Movie
oh apparently this uh they have pictures of A, yeah
so that THE fbi had players sitting in these. Games
this sounds like they're cad Red handed's what it sounds.
Like and THE fbi guys were, like, oh gollag, SHUCKS
i get TO i lost one point eight million, dollars
BUT i got to play with The hall Of. Famer
they have pictures of the, games pictures of the pictures
of THE x ray. Table oh my, gosh, yeah you
can see pictures of THE x rayed. Cards holy. Smokes,
yeah they're. DEAD i, Mean i'm. Sorry i'm. Sorry you
know you're you're supposed. To they're cottness until proven. Guilty
but LIKE i, said this sounds like a three year.
Investigation when you're going after mafia. Families you are going
after rich athletes and one of the most powerful organizations
forgetting gout, sports THE nba is a is a multi
billion dollar, operation and you're going against two members of their.
Fraternity you better have your act. Together you. Can't you
can't slip up on this in my. Mind Wild, Okay
The New York post has a list of the thirty
to thirty one. People you're their, names and it's a
bunch of. Guys we wouldn't necessarily any of the last.
Names it would be let's just say specific to the.
Families Julius. Zilian, Interesting i'm trying to see IF i
Recognize Damon. Jones of, Course Johncey billups mentioned some professional poker.
Players Sal, BETCHER i don't know. Him Leef, FAMA i
don't know. Him so they got pros in there.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 1: Huh they have poker players and tell me If i'm
wrong on. This foreg on the. Phones everybody at the,
table accept the ones that were being, fleeced knew about, this.
Correct there were several players at the table that knew
it was going. On there were, Several, right there's the
teams of. Players they would all sit at the, table
work with each, other and then extract money from the.
Fish that's what they call. Them let's go To charles
In Missouri. City, Hi, charles what's happening to?
Speaker 2: Guys? Hi first of, ALL i feel bad For. CHAUNCEY
i know it sounds, crazy but his my college. Roommate
chauncey is married to my college roommate's, Sister SO i
feel bad for his, family staff or his. Family that's
that's not a good. Thing BUT i called About. STROUD
i feel like you guys are kind of, apologists AND
i want him to be. Good but he's had two
different incarnations of a line and it looks like he
doesn't know what he's doing out. THERE i think after
the first year we had, film our teams had film on,
him and they knew his. Tendency the dude juice is a.
Dude Ju, see he's not gonna magically turn into somebody.
Else he they know he's scared to. Run he'll run
Some but that means all you got to do is
stay With Nico collins and then he loses.
Speaker 1: It he doesn't know.
Speaker 2: It and, MAN i hate to beat this, way but dude. Cried,
man come, on.
Speaker 1: Well that's, funny DON'T i don't mind him. Crying i'm
okay with. THAT i can live with. THAT i Can
i'm going To i'm gonna try to CONTINUE i. Understand
i'm going to try to continue to give in the
benefit of doubt as long AS i. Can but here's
WHAT i brought up on the show. Yesterday he asked
For bobby slog to lose his. Job I'm i'm firmly
convinced of. That so if you're gonna tell me that C.
J strout has to go through another offensive coordinator that
he doesn't jive, with that's unacceptable to. Me that means
you've got to start bearing some more of the. Responsibility
so trust me WHEN i tell you. This if you're
not a big C. J stroud, guy you're not gonna
to wait much longer that people jump on your bandwagon
if the struggles. Continue all, RIGHT i see justin. FIELDS
i wouldn't say. That WHAT i would not say THAT
i could see More teno, That, Charles, Charles, charles come,
ON i see More Geno. Smith how about? That Would
Gino smith be? Fair you're? Wrong, yes you're. Wrong Uh,
No Geno smith made it a.
Speaker 2: While let's see if he makes it as long As Geno.
Speaker 1: Smith Gino smith did make it a. While he, also you,
know failed for several years.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Now but that's a different. STORY i, mean this is
this is just different stories. Here.
Speaker 8: UH C.
Speaker 1: J stroud can still he can still make some wow.
Throws even in that game Against, seattle there's a couple
of throws where he's he's, falling he's under duress and
he's like having perfect ball. Placement he can still do,
that but it certainly hasn't been consistent. ENOUGH i, Mean
Nico collins left that. Game it was basically The Dalton
schultz Play action past. Game he had like fifteen. Catches
it felt like what troubles from. Game what troubles me
is That Dalton schultz will now be the focus of
the giant of The niners defense this. Week, YEAH i,
mean if they don't if they don't pay more attention
to him At seattle frankly did, not than. Shame that's
shame on The. Niners AND i don't want to sit
here and say that THE cj is not part of the.
Problem he is certainly part of the problem BECAUSE i
think it can be too easy as a fan. Base
this happened With David. CARR i, mean this happened WITH
i don't even know any other number of quarterbacks where you're, like,
well he's got no protection and he's got no. Weapons
and that's, true but there are other quarterbacks who can
make it work with no protection and or no. Weapons
so he's got to be. Better he's got the twenty
ninth offensive line in. Football, Unfortunately Niko collins is. Out
who's his number one target this? Weekend Dalton, schultz who
last year we were all saying is wash. Right and
then it's some guys WHO i, Mean Jalen knowle's been
making a couple of plays here and. There you're seeing
some things FROM i, Mean Xavier hutchinson's just a. Guy
let me tell you who they let me tell you
who makes it. Happen, now injuries have hurt, him But
Joe burrow makes it happen when he's on the. Field,
yes well he's also Got Jamar, CHASE T higgins and
whatever else is as far as that, means, YEAH i.
COULD i think you things would be going better If,
Jamar chase AND T higgins we're here as. Well so
it's it can be done to an. Extent but he's
not getting any help from his. Friends all, right quick time,
Out we'll go to The rotten. Five, Scott Michael steve
will of those to be four on the. Line if
you don't go, anywhere you're gonna get your airtime on
The Matt Thomas. Show, ross unlike frankcore seven one, three,
two one two five seven, nights.
Speaker 3: They've gone, belly they dropped flies.
Speaker 1: Wits ross's rotten. Five this don't smell quite. Right it
takes absolutely no ability whatsoever to give you the five
best teams In National Football league could take somebody OF i,
MEAN i wouldn't say simple to. Mine but because it's
not because you're, complex you're you give a great, analysis you're, thoughtful,
good nice Save matt act present to Yours sports over
he's rotten. Five all, Right let's start it with a
team who has been in the rotten five quite a,
bit but not much this. Year they are back into
number five after a thirty one to nothing a loss
the hands of The Kansas City, CHIEFS i Mean Andy
reid pulling full mercy rule On Pete carroll and The
raiders kneeling down the ball with over apt before the
two minute. WARNING i don't know If i've ever seen
that IN nfl. History they have the twenty eighth offensive
line in. Football ash And gent hasn't been great since
his breakout, season or excuse, me since this breakout. Game
Gino smith overall seven, touchdowns ten, interceptions thirtieth in THE
nfl in total qb. Are The raiders are an absolute.
Mess they are the fifth worst team in THE. Nfl,
yes thank, you right as all? Right moving on to
The New Orleans, saints they continue to. Lose after this
twenty six to fourteen loss to The Chicago, bears they
are just one and six on the. Season they've also
got some tough games coming up against The buccaneers And
rams in the next couple of. Weeks they just have
not been able to get anything going. Offensively speaking of bad,
Quarterbacks Spencer rattler actually hasn't been as far as touchdown
interception ratio as bad As Gino smith and, others but
just hasn't been able to get it. Done Alvin kamara
averaging just three point six yards per. Carry saints are.
Bad they're the fourth worst team in THE. Nfl believe, it,
yeah go sick the head up, though crawl fish. Though
thank You Chris gordy for that all time sound by
it all, right moving? Along you, know it feels like
in any other year we would be putting The Miami
dolphins as the absolute worst team in THE. Nfl but
there are some stinkers this year in the. League The Miami.
Dolphins how about going to The Cleveland browns and losing
a thirty one to six to a tongue Of aloa no,
touchdowns three, interceptions getting called out by his, coach getting
a place For quinn Freaking yours in that, game and
getting out played By dylan Gabriel. Oough dolphins defense was
also supposed to be good in the offseason that hasn't
come to. Fruition it had a lot of close, losses
so it was easy to kind of just shuffle them
under the. Rug but thirty one to six at The,
browns that is. Awful The browns were on the rout
in five last. Week they, stink but some of The.
Dolphins they're the third worst team in THE. Nfl all,
right moving it, Along AS i, mentioned it's just gonna
keep getting worse and. WORSE i Mean Tennessee. Titans, honestly
they got that gift victory against The. Cardinals they had
no business winning that. Game they continue to, lose the
latest loss coming against The New England. Patriots they actually
got up ten to three in the first quarter of this,
game ended up losing thirty one to. Thirteen you're seeing
some signs of life from Cam ward as he goes,
along but it hasn't been consistent. Enough nothing going on
the run. Game titans worse than THE nfl in terms
of yards for. Play my music was. Lost we can
get it back at some. Point that's, Okay. JONATHAN i
don't know if he's paying, attention but that's all, right
music school when you get a Second, anyways The titans
the second worst team in THE. Nfl there it, Goes,
yes you are Cam. Ward you guys are. Terrible and,
well there's only one zero to seventeam in THE, nfl
so there's got to be this team at the bottom
of the, barrel The New York. JETS i mean they
have scored seventeen points in the last two. Weeks, okay
against The, broncos they got a pretty good, defense but
that's at, home and only six points against The. PANTHERS i,
mean come, on, guys what's going? On Justin fields has
been an abject. Failure he's getting called out for his
play by the Owner Woody, Johnson Aaron glenn keeping it
close to the. Vest oh, guys who AM i gonna
start this? Week is it gonna Be Justin fields or Toront.
TAYLOR i don't think that The bengals are that concerned
who the starting quarterback is gonna, be because you're not
gonna be very. Good the best player for The jets
all season long has been their. Punter it's a. Disaster
they're oher and. Seven they are the worst team in THE. Nfl,
okay stop blee and that's run. Five excell work as,
Always thank, You. MATT i don't want The saints to
ever lay the rotten five BECAUSE i, mean we would
never have we would never hear From chris cordiever. Again,
yeah you know what needs to play this one more?
Time believe. It, yeah go sick the head up, though
crawl fish. Though we need to have him come in
one day and just do a bunch of phrases that
we can just row tacks. Out yeah, yeah, okay like
When i'm In New. Orleans he needs to do a
custom introduction for the show phone quarter, Now, BABY i
still want to do the show from a blackjack. Table
they won't let, me But i'm still aspiring for that.
Time all, Right, Chauncey i'm not. Letting i'm not Leting
chauncey and ruin my love for Black. Chack perhaps, maybe
but not Black. Chack before the top of the, Hour
Michaeh michael on seven nut, Me, michael thank you for holding.
Speaker 2: In good.
Speaker 1: Afternoon, HEY i think it's us here going all, Right.
Michael i'm gonna have write the number Down jonathan because
it looks like he's. A he's. A he's. A it's
a bad. Seed makes me. Sad all, right let's try,
it hopefully Not, Steve, Hi, steve.
Speaker 10: How are you?
Speaker 3: Doing?
Speaker 1: Amazing?
Speaker 8: Amazing all, Right so here's my three. Things number, one
please drive, alone get a, line get a linebacker that
can back up the defense line because the defense line
isn't very. Good and start throwing screen passes to tight,
ends running, backs short. Passes give him a short option
on every. Play things will get. Better Trade alvarez before
he goes to another eighty games.
Speaker 1: Season hold hold, on hold, on Hold who was the
number one point? Guard who is the number one threat
on The monday nine game Against? Seattle did you watch the?
Game it Don't. SHULTZ i did Dot schultz short passing,
game tight end just what you're speaking. Of who caught
the hutchdown passing the fourth? Quarter what he?
Speaker 8: Marks, okay but hang, on The colts been down here
for seventeen. Years colts ran two tight. Ends they got
to start mixing the thing, up and they're. Not there
are two in there're two pigeonholes that they have very narrow.
Vision that's my.
Speaker 1: Thoughts, okay Trade Yrdon he, said, no you're not trading Yrd. On, sorry, No, No.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying go out and trade him right.
Speaker 8: Now but if he goes to another eighty game Plus,
andrey you've got to start thinking about, That.
Speaker 1: Okay so let's say. It let's say that, Happens. Steve
why would any team want to trade for a guy
that only plays a half a. Season if using your
using your, thoughts.
Speaker 8: Get a couple of draft, choices you can't trade.
Speaker 1: For, okay, this this is not working out well for.
YOU i, mean come, on come, on, guy you can
trade international. Player what are THE i think the compensatory
ones you can trade? Now, no, no, no, no, no
come on. Gang but, yeah and, remember if he's not
good for you, anymore why are you going to get
a haul in back for? Him if he's, healthy he's
on the best contract in. Baseball, basically he's making twenty
six million for the next three, years age twenty, nine
thirty thirty. One by the, way nineteen hours, Ago Nicole,
aubach who is THE Nbc Sports football And basketball, insider
she's a. Reporter i'm not looking the for. Youtab she
just put this out at five fifty four. Yesterday, now
official college athletes and school staff can bet on pro
sports beginning on with the First all three divisions have
voted to approve the. Change for THE. Ncaa good for.
Them if y'all want to, bet just don't be involved in.
SPORTS i. CAN'T i MEAN i, cannot as AN nba
employee bet in THE, nba and, FRANKLY i have no
interest in it BECAUSE i first of aught to get
in trouble number, Two i'm too close to. It i'd
Be i'd be maybe making bets on teams THAT i
don't want to win because it would affect the. STAND
i ain't touching. IT i bet on football once in a.
WHILE i don't bet on any sort of online, anything
but i'd bet you, know when we're at the book
went we're Like charles when it's fully. Legal, yes And
i'm not betting on. Football i'm welcome to do anything
ELSE i, want but you're not betting On Tiio rosier player.
Props sorry That i'm not. Okay short one o'clock here
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Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 1: Gang it's one o five On Sports talk seven Ninety
good morning to good. Afternoon do YOU nba releasing a
statement about an hour, ago, saying, quote we're in the
process of reviewing the federal indictments announced. Today Terry rozier
And Chauncey billups are being placed on immediately from their.
Teams we will continue to cooperate with the relevant. Authorities
we take these allegations with the utmost, seriousness and the
integrity of our game remains our top. Priority, okay If
i'm THE, NBA i, Mean i'll answer the, questions But
i'm not doing. ANYMORE i mean they've already Investigated Milik
beasley and found. Nothing, now the attorney For Terry rozier,
says THE nba did their investigation With Terry rozier and found. Nothing,
now how deep these investigations? Go is it what THE
nba wants to see or wants to? Hear do they
turn a blind? EYE i don't think they turn blind,
Eyes BUT i just also believe they're not gonna Be
nero's thorough as a three YEAR fbi. Investigation don't you?
Think probably. Not they're not sending your. Readings, yeah you,
know you copy off somebody's, paper just change it a little.
Bit you get the get THE fbi investigation and change
a few. Words it's like it's like going and getting
the uh silver, package the gold package or the premium,
package and you're, Like i'll think The i'll think the.
Silver just just do just do some investigating a little,
bit but don't don't go don't go deep into. It mm.
Hmm it can work in. Collaboration, yeah but let me tell,
you THE fbi calls YOU. Nba, yes whatever you want to,
know BECAUSE i you don't want let you don't Want
Terry rozier Or Chauncey billups to destroy this league's. Credibility, no,
hmm this is. Crazy this will be as crazy of
a story that is just being talked about really for
the first. Time. Now there were some thoughts Of Malik
beasley so kind of a journeyman guard on THE, nba
but he doesn't necessarily move the. NEEDLE i don't Think
Terry rozier moves the needle so. Much but an active
head coach involved an illegal polker scam basically to try
to swindle money from. People, yeah illegally with mafia, families
you throw, Them you throw the four mafia families in a.
Mix that's an even a deeper dive and do what
exactly is going on and how much point shaving is
there and how much price in game fixing is? There,
Now chauncey is not accused of, that but would you
want to ask some? Questions how deep does do these
mafia fams only go in attracting people that are HAVE
nba connections to their illegal poker. Action? YEAH i wonder if, we,
like if we somehow ever get a list of, names
because why Wouldn't chauncey call buddy his, saying come join? This,
yeah unless you want to be so secretive about, this
the scheme that he was. Running, yeah This New York
post article has the shuffling machines.
Speaker 6: And the.
Speaker 1: Tables this is. CRAZY i want to know what the
contact lenses. Are those have got to be some magical.
Speaker 2: Things.
Speaker 1: Yeah so obviously they were doing different games and cheating
in different. Ways they don't think they had all three
of these set up at one. GAME i guess make
sure we really cheat the. Guys, yeah when there are
when there are lights going on everywhere and buzzers and,
Everything i'm trying to attach the buzzers and. Cheating but you,
KNOW o mad come, on now you know WHAT i.
MEANT i think you're wearing a buzzer nobody seven one
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Speaker 3: Not?
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good afternoon to.
Speaker 10: You what's going on? Guys SO i wasn't planning on
a calling in today because it didn't think there'd be
too much sports topics to go. Over BUT i actually
am other Than houston. Sports i'm a pretty big poker
or poker is a huge hobby of. MINE i play
all the. Time so WHEN i first was on the
way to work this morning and saw That chauncey got
arrested for, THIS i mean my initial reaction was that
he just you, know THE fbi was trying to make
a big deal of an underground game and use him
as an. Example but then WHEN i watched the press
conference and saw that he was rigging games with the,
MAFIA i got really kind of pissed me, off to
be honest with, you because, NOW i, MEAN i understand
if this is a high stakes thing THAT i think
was happening In New york and all over the. Places
but poker is a game THAT i feel like has
done a really good job and work really hard to
kind of break some of the, bad uh you, know
stereotypes that it's. Had really you, know ross, UP i.
DON'T i feel Like i've heard you say you play
poker every once in a.
Speaker 1: While, YEAH i played a. BUNCH i played a bunch
online back in the poker boom and Played Poker stars
And Full tilt and then poker rooms and stuff like.
THAT i don't play much these.
Speaker 2: Days, yeah have? You have you ever?
Speaker 10: BEEN i Mean houston, specifically not TO i, mean not
that there's anything going on, here but there's a lot
of really great establishments In.
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't like how much they charge for THE
i don't like how much they charge you get in
the seats and all that for somebody who doesn't play
all the.
Speaker 2: Time, Yeah, yeah well that's that's.
Speaker 10: TRUE i, mean BUT i go there quite a, bit
AND i mean these games are small potatoes compared to
what they were doing. There but you, know it's really
it's just a disappointing story for the poker community because
as someone who plays a, LOT i have to convince
people who don't know much about the game that it's,
really you, know a great way to keep the competitive
spirits about you as you get. Older it's a great
way to specialize with people who play with your, friends
obviously if you're doing it. Responsibly but the other THING
i wanted to COMMUN i. Haven't i've been listening to
the show for a little bit While i'm driving around
on my lunch.
Speaker 2: BREAKS i.
Speaker 10: Haven't i've seen you comment on like the actual equipment
that you've seen that they're. USING i haven't seen that.
Yet but, gosh And i'm not blaming the victims, here
BUT i JUST i Have i'm curious how good of
acting and the signaling was going on at these tables
for these people who have to have some level of
wits and intelligence about them to have that kind of,
money to have no idea what's going. ON i, Mean
Chauncey billis isn't a professional poker, PLAYER i can tell
you that's for him to be a mastermind signaler at
the table with people who presumably know how to. Play
i'm obviously it, happened BUT i mean that JUST i
would be fascinated to see how exactly that went. DOWN
i wouldn't be surprised if there was some you, know
people who consider themselves professional poker players involved in running
the logistics and the mechanics behind this as well, too
because that seems like or maybe they, would you, know
just keep the requiring new people to come to the.
Games once you got once you got ripped, off once
you kind of maybe figured out what was going, on
and you didn't want to mess with the freaking mafia,
afterwards so you kept your mouth. SHUT i don't, know but,
yeah very disappointing. Story that was frustrating for me to.
Speaker 4: Hear kissed me.
Speaker 10: Off soker is a great, Game.
Speaker 1: Yeah what it does is and AGAIN i can't speak
to that. World let me you know WHAT i. Mean
let me Get scott back in the line real. Quick So,
scott you love playing, poker you love the challenge of.
It you don't live and die by. It i'm assuming
you don't, Like, man there's your main, living correct. It,
Okay SO i would think if someone gave you the
opportunity to be involved in a game that you could,
fix that you can, collect if you had any sort of,
backbone any sort of, kouth if you had any morals at,
all you would, say you know, WHAT i love playing.
Poker i'm not getting in it to do to try
to steal from. People i'm. NOT i don't want to commit.
Crimes get me far away from. This If chauncey likes
to play high end, POKER i don't have a problem with.
That chauncey was involved in something that was allegedly criminal,
behavior that's the problem.
Speaker 10: Exactly. Right that's WHY i said WHEN i originally heard
the story this, MORNING i originally just thought they were
getting on them for having a game that wasn't you, know,
right and that that was going to be that was
what they were getting after him. About AND i was, like,
yeah that's very. PETTY i, mean they're even calling these
in the INDICTMENT i was reading a little, Bit they're,
saying these, guys these poor, victims thought they were going to,
regular normal illegal, games not games that were being. Fixed
kind of like with a wink wink that these games,
happened that's not that big of a. Deal but to
go to the extra mile to rigm like, this it's
just that's just gross sickening.
Speaker 1: Because let's face, it we, look if any of you play,
POKER i don't even know there's a, threshold but generally,
speaking doesn't anything any poker in your house considered? ILLEGAL
i mean if, so, yeah if if, you you AND
i play a game in our house and nobody the
house isn't taking any more, money it's. Legal as long
as everything it's kind of like, uh Super bowl squares
at the. Office as long as you're not putting, in
nobody's taken. It as long as all the money that
is being played is distributed back to everyone it, is
it is. Legal, okay, yeah, okay that makes some sense.
Then but, yeah If chauncey wants to play high in, games,
LOOK i don't have a problem with that that you.
Speaker 6: Do, you but.
Speaker 1: When you are trying to swindle money from people and
you've got, it and you are you know who's in the,
room and you know who's organizing, it that's. Dangerous, YEAH
i imagine he's gonna plead endurance on. This but there's
just no way that HE'S i, mean where were these
games that he was playing? IT i can tell you where? From,
YEAH i can say so all this so every game
across the country that was like a private high sex.
Games Chauncey billiams is Here, Chelsea you're here In La,
Oh you're here In, Portland you're here In New. York
why Is chauncey always here in these games Where i'm
losing my? Ass this is. Crazy the games took place
in The, hampton's Make Las, vegas And, manhattan And chauncey
was in like all those. Places the poker scheme targeted
victims who were alwered to participate in rigged poker, games
but the chance to play alongside professional. Athletes these athletes
Included Chauncey billups And Damon. Jones THE fbi says that
the defendants used altered shuffling machines to read the cards
in the deck and then re let the information to
an off side. Operator he's known as the quarterback that
sent the information to someone at the. Table THE fbi
also says the defendants robbed a victim of gunpoint to
acquire such rigged shuffling. Machine what THE fbi has been
working in this investigation for four years with victims losing
at least seven million. Dollars, again all this is, accusations
has to be proven in a court of. Lot but
again we're talking about IT fbi. Team and if you
saw the press, conference And i'm sure you'll see it
somewhere on your television screen, today we're talking about AN
fbi investigation that has gone. Back let me see IF
i have the exact date on. This, uh thousands has
reviewed thousands of hours of video evidence and executed more
than two dozen search. Warrants and, uh THE fbi the
betting thing On Terry rozier goes back to a game
In march of twenty twenty, three and, uh it doesn't
give me a data when they started the poker, thing
but no to Its WHAT i want to know IS
i want to know how the commissioners of the various
sports are going to handle. This do they come up
with some generic blanket statement or do they really show
action to say we got a we gonna do a
better job of making sure the. Action the action would
be toning down all this gambling. Stuff AND i just
KNOW i would be hard pressed for them to say
that they're gonna, yeah maybe for like a. Week, no
here's your here's your. Problem you go go tell your
television partners who you just they just gave me these
whole just big checks to not take money from your
biggest advertise. EXACTLY i want's see how that, Goes. RASSIE
i just got an email about an hour ago THAT
i wanted to spring on. You and it's not a
typical of colleges to do, this especially for money that
you've sent that college before in the, past and they're
always looking for. MORE i got a nice email from
the athletic director At TEXAS a AND M, University Trev. Alberts,
okay was it? Personalized? No, OKAY i don't even know
If Trev alberts wrote this or. Not it's not from.
Him it's FROM a AND M athletics contact At athletics
TMUT e do You and it's a nice letter From
it's it's it's it's it's as Deer, aggies what a
fantastic year we have fighting Tech saggies are seven or
oh blah blah blah blah. Blah Coach Mike elko and
it's going on and on and on and, on and
it talks about the twenty point five million dollars of
the athletes are given by the institution to pay its.
Athletes that's twenty point five it'll go up every. Year
that's money that a m must earmark for paying of.
Athletes how they spend, it whether it's be, football, basketball,
baseball that's they're. Choosing, Okay, well they've created a new
group Called Aggie nil and they want me to help
them with.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 1: Good, yeah get in. There so they've given me a
variety of WAYS i can. HELP i can partner with Playfly,
max which is the new marketing. Group that basically MEANS
i can they can be the middleman between the, athlete
my company and Playfly who will who will broker the?
Deal they'll service agents to pay these athletes AND il. Deals.
Okay number, TWO i can go to VARIOUS anil events
and pay for. That what DO i mean some? Players,
yes you want to get some, monogras gets some. Pictures
come have a thousand dollars barbecue? Plate how MUCH i?
Mean What i'm sorting? Up the number, THREE i can
become a member of Tech eggs the. Website, yeah they're
partnered with the. University join now to enjoy exclusive student athlete.
Content oh, wow like interviews or? WHAT i Guess IF
i need to know more About AGGIE'S i can go
to textags and get paid Now's Billy luci can and Check. Cousin's,
Yeah i'm wondering how you gonna loosen my money on.
THIS i can PURCHASE nil merchandise and. PRODUCT i can
purchase it through The FANATICS nil, SHOP i can purchase
it through an athlete's, thread OR i can do it
on trading. Cards, everybuddy you ever bought a training card
of a trading card of a college, Athlete well you can.
NOW i THINK i got A Sam Caselt Florida state.
Somewhere that's. Nice and then, lastly they want you to
follow their student athletes on social. Media the more the
larger following they, have the more valuable many of the
third party and ideals will. Be that seems like the
freeway to do. It, So Marcel, reid if you got AN,
nil if you have a social media, Account i'm gonna
go follow, you get you some more. Money, great you
got to Help. Matt so just to show you how
things have, changed obviously in sports, well AND i don't
want to get with this. Willecase we're gonna talk about
the sports. Itself but used to get these emails, saying,
hey we are looking for a college of business to.
Help hey we're looking to build a better football, facility
or we're looking to improve our weight, room or we're
looking to add seats to our, stadium or we want
to have build build bill. Build you, know always be
on the. Umproof today's athletic director has to write the
we need to directly get these guys, paid, yes to
keep up with everyone. Else and again that's nothing giving
you ear. Shattering i'm sure every athletic director in a
major school in this country is. Doing i'm sure Any
unia has has to write this letter eventually to The
cougar fans as. Well but it's just it gets kind
of struck me funny that we're, like let's be very.
Clear the way we're going to maintain being seven and,
zero the way we're going to maintain having a top
forty basketball program in a top ten to fifteen baseball
program is we're going to need to make sure we
get them. Paid and here's and they're giving you the
ways to do.
Speaker 2: It, yeah.
Speaker 1: He, says thank you for your continued, loyalty generosity and
belief In texan and. Athletics Gigam trev he Said trav.
Overs he didn't call him. Triv, oh he didn't Say Trevi. Trev,
no he. Didn't how do you Think nebraska fan feels about?
This that's where he was eighty before and he went.
Out he played his college football At. Nebraska this is
JUST i think we just we in years ago needed
to start thinking this more about as professional, sports and
now it's even. More, YEAH i just thought it kind
of struck me. Funny that's the kind of emails we're
getting now from these generic and m fan bases and,
schools as if we, calling, hey we like to have
electricity in our stadium. Us that's just the. Band now
they have. Money, okay we had we had a president
that was we believe that air conditioning in our basketball
arena is. Important he was he was taking money away
from the. School, okay they're doing. Well you've h cut
him a. Check we did get you check for. That ask.
Exactly it's a win, win all. Right speaking of, asking
our Friend Willie fritz's team kicks some ass over the
week and we'll talk with him next seven one three
two one two five seven ninety seven one three two
one two five at seven ninety one thirty three On
The Matt Thomas. Show at Ross Houston cougar is knocking
Off arizona to secure a six and one start of the,
season A bowl. Eligibility that's awesome news for the head
coach of The Houston Cougar's Willie, fritz joining us in
his courtesy of our friends The Joit, chiropractor the official
chiropractor of The Houston. Cougars first of, All, WILLIE i
love the shirt you wore at the postgame get. Together
Bull bound is, cool but it felt like the, kids
to a man after the, game said they had got
more to accomplishes it since you got from the guys
after the win On.
Speaker 3: Saturday you bet you that's you, know that's always one
of your, goals you. Know, yeah playing a bowl. GAME
i played a bunch of. Them i've been lucky fortunate
to do, that and they're all good, ones every single
one of. Them but oh, yeah there's a lot of
a lot of other things to Accomp let's just season
AND i just wanted to make sure we put it
out there and let the kids know about. It, obviously
other people we're going to talk to about it and tell.
Them and we Are bowl eligible and there are very
many teams in the country that Are bowl eligible right,
now so we're proud of, that but we sure do
you want to accomplish a lot more than.
Speaker 1: That you, Know, wellie there's so many folks that will
criticize final two, minutes use of, timeouts and even the
best coaches in the. COUNTRY i thought what your squad
did in the execution in the final two Against arizona was.
Perfection how much do you work on that and even
if you do a lot during the course of the,
week is there just something different about having to try
to run a two minute in a game and a
tight game as compared to doing it on a raindo practice. Day,
well you, know we just.
Speaker 3: Did it practice this, morning did a little bit hand
and game. SITUATION i think we had thirty seven seconds
they had the ball in the minus forty eight one
time out on each. Side we do a lot of
it sometimes with seven on seven where we just use,
linebackers the defensive, backs wide, receivers tight, ends running, backs,
quarterbacks you, know we have guys that can play the
part of, officials and you, know we have it up
on the stadium, scoreboard so you work on it a.
Ton but that one was a little different because you,
went you, know kind of from a four minute situation
where you try to run the clock into a two minute.
Situation and that's why it's so valuable to be able
to save your. Timeouts we had to blow one earlier that,
half you, know and you always want to have three
if if, possible but we had two of. Them we
had plenty of time on the. DRIVE i, Thought, Uh
Coach nangel did a good job of, tempo going slow
and THEN i had to go a little bit faster
at times there at the. End you, know we had
some timeouts in our back pocket to be able to you,
know kind of get the clock down to where we wanted,
it where it was either going to be a make
and we win or you, know they don't have an
opportunity to answer and less. Silvertime so kids did a good,
job they kept their composed and, uh you, know everybody
did a very nice job with.
Speaker 1: It do you talk to kickers in your life when
plays like that come up where they got to go win,
it or do you try to leave them. ALONE i really.
Speaker 3: Pretty much leave him. Alone we do a whole bunch of.
It during. Practice we do what we call a clock field.
Goal you, know we did that On, tuesday where We
uh get done with, stretch we all get together and,
boom we just go tack the. Ball we'll do it
tomorrow during our script we'll do we call a whistle
field goal or officials are looking at a, replay we
can actually stamp the ball in the whistle and kick the.
Ball and then we got some other TIMES i have
guys staying around to kick her and kind of eate
them out a little bit and put a little pressure
on him and. Stuff and you know our, guy, really you,
KNOW uh does a super job of not worrying about
any of that. Stuff ethan, Saying, chaz and you know
he's done a good. GUYS i had two game winners
for us so far this.
Speaker 1: Season i've asked you this before in the, past but
it's worthy a game Because ethan has been such a
big part of this. Team are. YOU i don't know
what scholarship situations, are and you've obviously got some money
that now schools can. Pay but the kicker role to,
me with so many kickers making such a big, difference
not only making, kicks will he but kicking them with
fifty to fifty five yards of maybe ten or fifteen years,
ago you weren't. Trying are we seeing collectively coaches putting
more of a priority in recruiting in that particular. Position,
well we always.
Speaker 3: Have i've always, had you, know a, kicker snamper and
a punter on. Scholarship one TIME i was one of
the few guys that did. That they'd always try to get,
people try to he a walk ons to come in
and do. That but we want to have a quality
person because they CAN i can help you win. Games you,
know a, Snapper Jacob garza is our, snapper does an excellent.
Job beyond that particular, play you have to have an accurate.
Snap you got to have great protection with the, guards the,
tackles the tight, ends the. Wings and Then Jake sock
is our holder and he does a super job. Holding
and you, know if you got a good, staff you
got a good. Hold you, know now the kicker's got
an opportunity to have a great. Kick so it's a whole. Operation, Obviously,
Aaron and it's kind of LIKE i talk about with the, quarterbacks,
right you, know when things are going, good quarterback gets
too much, credit and things aren't going so, good they
get too much playing the same thing with the. Kicker
in those, situations there's a there's an operation that's got
to be, smooth and all those guys do a fabulous.
Speaker 4: JOB i.
Speaker 1: Know Boogie johnson's injury status is not what you want
to report or have talked about this, Week but collectively
as a, group how is that room depth wise and
how do you feel right now at the midway point
of this season in terms of your overall depth on
both offense and.
Speaker 3: Defense Cornell Stefan johnson's had a great career here and
hopefully we'll be able to get him to keep keep
playing here at The university Of. Houston Bogie johnson, obviously you,
know but we've got a little bit of depth there
and we need. It Harvey, bursar let's come on over
the last couple of weeks And Mari thomas is playing extremely,
Well Kobe young doing a good, job McKay, News Jaquith,
martin true freshman that's playing a bunch for. Us you,
know they had the ability to throw the ball in
the backs coming out of the. Backfield we've got some
good tight. Ends you, Know tanners played extremely well for
us and Not Treville frederick and you, know so We've
it's one of the. Things this is a, tough you, know,
sport and you've got to make sure you have. Depth
as one of the thanks coming in the SEASON i
was excited about is that we had more depth and
certainly what we had last.
Speaker 1: Season, Lastly willie was nice to get the game over
with at a good amount of time and got to
go home and watch The Arizona state. Game let's talk
a little bit About Sam. Lovett first of, all great,
quarterback has been there a couple of. Years some fourth
down throws he made late in that, game helping them
pull off the. Win last, week you're going from one
great quarterback and defeated another one here this time on
the road In.
Speaker 3: Tempe, yeah he's a, really really good. Quarterback he's a
little similar to the kid last. Week you, know he's
a bigger, guy obvious sleep, it really strong, arm can
make all the throws and then you know he is
gonna run down. Hill he's uh gonna go over with
the intention of, tackling because sometimes he'll try to load
it the, shoulder run you, over and he's great in
in the pocket extending. Place. Uh so you, know he's
one of the top quarterbacks In, america so we've got
to do a good job of trying to limit his.
Speaker 1: Effectiveness thanks for the, time has always. Congratulations it's so
fun to see the big, victory the way things turned.
Out And i'll surprise some folks in temper this. Weekend
what do you say sounds? Great, Gokoks thank you, WELL
i appreciate. It Willie fritz joining us here On Sports talk.
Seven hoey back to play believe it or not in a. Minute,
Ross i'm not gonna let you help because you AND
i have had a lot of meals together over the.
Years you can. AGREE i have to recuse. Myself you
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i like this fast food? Item and nobody knows the
answer except me and you to a certain. Extent but
another interesting nugget from this. Indictment we got time to
it real. Quick, okay breaking news are just about adding
a nugget. Too there is an unnamed co conspirator that
has to Be Chauncey billups talking about involving with point.
Shaving it says AN nba player from ninety seven to
twenty fourteen and a coach since twenty twenty. One That's
Chauncey billups talking about pulling, players telling inside information that
they were the team was tanking and they weren't going
to try to. Win and then from this box, score
some Of Chauncey billups checked out some of his best
players in that. Game so it looks Like Chauncey billips
is throwing games. Too he's named in the indictment as
co conspirator, eight so that's why we haven't named him
in the match fixing stuff. Yet but somebody's digging the you,
know everybody's digging through all these documents, now and it
looks Like Chauncey billups throwing games as a coach during
Like Damian lilit's time over THE.
Speaker 3: Ti.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no it doesn't really. Matter, yeah,
Yeah i'm just. Curious, no he wasn't.
Speaker 3: He it Was.
Speaker 1: Terry's it was when they were basically when they were.
Tanking oh, oh all, right tomorrow we have just found
out That Frank gore is going to reschedule for. Tomorrow
fingers crossed eleven O'clock Central. Time maybe he's got its
time zone mix you found better Than i'm. OUT i,
MEAN i want to love on the guy because he's
one of my favorite running backs of all, time like
my favorite, favorite but he's one of my. Favorites it is.
GREAT i WAS i gonna tell, You, oh we're also
going to have uh gonna check in In San francisco,
tomorrow looking forward to. That, okay with doing me to
read you more of? This uh please Go conspirator, eight
please With Chauncey billips apparently prior to their game against
The Chicago, bulls which people gamblers have actually looked. At
this is actually not new. News there are people who
are sports gamblers who thought this game was suspicious years
ago when it happened that prior to the game against
The bulls there were ten games remaining in the, season
they're out of playoff. Contention the co conspirator, eight WHO i,
mentioned they say as a coach and a former, player
it's Basically Chauncey billups that The trailblazers were going to
be tanking to increase their odds of getting a better draft.
Pick Co conspirator, eight that Being Chouncey billups Told, ernest
that's one of the, defendants that several of their best
players would not be playing in the. Game the information
of The trailblazer would be tanking and not playing player
one that's they don't name the player not available to the.
Public then this Person, earnest provided this information to a.
Gambler gambler paid The Chauncey billups's friend or, whoever five
thousand dollars for this. Information like this, Bad this is real.
Bad this is every bit as bad As Tim. Donahue,
yeah this this is from The this is From Terry rozier,
indictment which doesn't mean charge are, filed doesn't necessarily mean
uh that it's confirmed findings or anything like, that but
it's it's it's in the. Documents five thousands kind of. Low,
NO i think he ended. Up they said they have
they found wires of up to twenty, thousand SO i don't,
know but, yeah, crazy AND i FOUND i have. Audio
we don't have to wait on time to play. It
but there is a there is a professional poker, player
his name Is Matt, burkey talking about in twenty twenty.
Three you know this guy before? Today, yes, okay he
he's a. Multimillionaire he's been involved in these Big REMEMBER
i was telling you about the big heads up. Matches
he's been involved involved in some of these big heads up.
Matches he's been on a podcast twenty twenty three talking
about Rig Chauncey billups games where, everybody everybody was suspicious
that they were getting. Cheated so this has been happening
since in at least twenty. Nineteen the game was IN.
La he said that it moved To vegas for a few.
Days he got invited to the. Game he turned down
the invitation because he was suspicious and his friend had
told him, basically no, games that's all, good it's on
the up and, up and he Is some people that
he knew got basically got robbed out of that. Game
but what are you gonna. Do you're gonna go after
a bunch of. Monsters so they all got to know
you Just i'm just happy to be. Here they got,
cheated they knew they got, cheated and they just don't
have any. Recourse what are you gonna go to THE
fbi and, Say, HEY i was playing in this million
dollar illegals game and then you're stuck in cement literally.
Exactly so some friends that he knew got beaten out
of the. Game flaide was the word he. Used they
got flayed out of the. Game and, YEAHAY i wonder
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