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<v Speaker 1>You, like I mentioned with with base X, you give

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people hope, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>look up to you. Millions if people look up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>If we think about young people in high school, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in college, what advice would you give to them about

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<v Speaker 1>if they want to try to do something big in

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<v Speaker 1>this world, they want to really have a big positive impact,

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<v Speaker 1>what advice would you give them about their career maybe

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<v Speaker 1>about life in general?

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<v Speaker 2>Try to be useful. You do things that are useful

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<v Speaker 2>to your fellow human beings, to the world. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to be useful, very hard. You know. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>contributing more than you consume? You know, like like can

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<v Speaker 2>you try to have a positive net contribution to society?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing to aim for, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not to try to be sort of a leader for

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<v Speaker 2>just for the sake of being a leader or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of time, people who a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>the people you want as leaders are the people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be leaders. So if you live a

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<v Speaker 2>useful life, that is a good life, a life worth

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<v Speaker 2>having lived, you know, And like I said, I would,

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<v Speaker 2>I would I would encourage people to use the mental

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<v Speaker 2>tools of physics and apply them broadly in life. There

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<v Speaker 2>are the best tools.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think about education and self education, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you recommend? So there's the university, there is self study.

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<v Speaker 1>There is hands on sort of finding a company or

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<v Speaker 1>a place or a set of people that do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing you're passionate about and joining them as early as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a taking a road trip across Europe for a

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<v Speaker 1>few years and writing some poetry. Which which which trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>do you suggest in terms of learning about how you

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<v Speaker 1>can become useful as you mentioned how you can have

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<v Speaker 1>the most positive impact.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd encourage people to read a lot of books.

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<v Speaker 2>Just read like I mean, basically try to ingest as

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<v Speaker 2>much information as you can and try to also just

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<v Speaker 2>develop a good general knowledge so you at least have

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<v Speaker 2>like a rough lay of the land of the knowledge landscape,

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<v Speaker 2>Like try to learn a little bit about a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things, because you might not know what you're really

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<v Speaker 2>interested How would you know what you're really interested in

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<v Speaker 2>if you at least aren't like doing it? Peripheral exploration

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<v Speaker 2>a broadly of the knowledge landscape, and you talk to

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<v Speaker 2>people from different walks of life and different industries and

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<v Speaker 2>professions and skills and occupations like just try you learn

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<v Speaker 2>as much as possible. Man search for meaning.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't the whole thing a search for meaning?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's the meaning of life and all? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>But just generally, like I said, I I would encourage

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<v Speaker 2>people to read broadly in many different subject areas and

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<v Speaker 2>and and then try to find something where there's an

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<v Speaker 2>overlap of your talents and what you're interested in. So

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<v Speaker 2>people may may be good at something, but or they

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<v Speaker 2>may have skill at a particular thing, but they don't

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<v Speaker 2>like doing it. So you want to try to find

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<v Speaker 2>a thing where you you're that's a good a good

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<v Speaker 2>combination of of your of the things that you're inherently

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<v Speaker 2>good at but you also like doing. And reading is

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<v Speaker 2>a super fast shortcut to figure out which where are

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<v Speaker 2>you both good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You like doing it, and it will actually have positive impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you got to learn about things somehow, so reading

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<v Speaker 2>a broad range, it's just really read it. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One point is that kid, I read through the encyclopedia,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's pretty helpful. And there also things I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even know existed a lot. Obviously, it's like as broad

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<v Speaker 2>as it gets. Encyclopaedias were digestible I think, you know

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<v Speaker 2>whatever forty years ago. So you know, let me read

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<v Speaker 2>through the condensed version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. I'd recommend

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<v Speaker 2>that you can always like skip subjects, or you read

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<v Speaker 2>a few paragraphs and you know you're not interested, just

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<v Speaker 2>jump to the next one. So read the encyclopedia or

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<v Speaker 2>scan ski skim through it. And but you know, put

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stock and certainly have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>respect for someone who puts in an honest day's work

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<v Speaker 2>to do useful things, and and just generally to have

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<v Speaker 2>like a not a zero sum mindset or like have

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<v Speaker 2>have more of a grow the pie mindset, like the

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<v Speaker 2>if if you sort of say, like when when we

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<v Speaker 2>see people like have some including some very smart people,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of taking an attitude of like like like doing

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<v Speaker 2>things that seem like morally questionable, it's often because they

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<v Speaker 2>have at a base sort of axiomatic level, a zero

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<v Speaker 2>sum mindset, and and they without realizing it, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize they have a zero S mindset, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>they don't realize it consciously. And so if you have

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<v Speaker 2>zero some mindset, then the only way to get ahead

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<v Speaker 2>is by taking things from other If It's like if

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<v Speaker 2>if the if the pie is fixed, then the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to have more pie is to take someone else's pie.

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<v Speaker 2>But but this is false, Like obviously the pie has

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<v Speaker 2>grown dramatically over time, the economic pie, so the real

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<v Speaker 2>in reality you can have the overuser this analogy, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of you can there's a lot of pie.

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<v Speaker 2>Pie is not fixed, So you really want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you're not You're not operating without realizing it from

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<v Speaker 2>a zero sum mindset where where the only way to

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<v Speaker 2>get ahead is to take things from others, then that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to result and you take trying to take things

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<v Speaker 2>from others, which is not not good. It's much better

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<v Speaker 2>to work on adding to the economic pie.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Quit creating. Like I said, great, creating more than you

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<v Speaker 2>can sume, doing more than you Yeah, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal. I think there's you know a fair

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<v Speaker 2>number of people in in finance that I do have

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a zeros mindset.