Speaker 1: You, like I mentioned with with base X, you give
Speaker 1: a lot of people hope, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: look up to you. Millions if people look up to you.
Speaker 1: If we think about young people in high school, maybe
Speaker 1: in college, what advice would you give to them about
Speaker 1: if they want to try to do something big in
Speaker 1: this world, they want to really have a big positive impact,
Speaker 1: what advice would you give them about their career maybe
Speaker 1: about life in general?
Speaker 2: Try to be useful. You do things that are useful
Speaker 2: to your fellow human beings, to the world. It's very
Speaker 2: hard to be useful, very hard. You know. Are you
Speaker 2: contributing more than you consume? You know, like like can
Speaker 2: you try to have a positive net contribution to society?
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing to aim for, you know,
Speaker 2: not to try to be sort of a leader for
Speaker 2: just for the sake of being a leader or whatever.
Speaker 2: A lot of time, people who a lot of times
Speaker 2: the people you want as leaders are the people who
Speaker 2: don't want to be leaders. So if you live a
Speaker 2: useful life, that is a good life, a life worth
Speaker 2: having lived, you know, And like I said, I would,
Speaker 2: I would I would encourage people to use the mental
Speaker 2: tools of physics and apply them broadly in life. There
Speaker 2: are the best tools.
Speaker 1: When you think about education and self education, what do
Speaker 1: you recommend? So there's the university, there is self study.
Speaker 1: There is hands on sort of finding a company or
Speaker 1: a place or a set of people that do the
Speaker 1: thing you're passionate about and joining them as early as possible.
Speaker 1: There's a taking a road trip across Europe for a
Speaker 1: few years and writing some poetry. Which which which trajectory
Speaker 1: do you suggest in terms of learning about how you
Speaker 1: can become useful as you mentioned how you can have
Speaker 1: the most positive impact.
Speaker 2: But I'd encourage people to read a lot of books.
Speaker 2: Just read like I mean, basically try to ingest as
Speaker 2: much information as you can and try to also just
Speaker 2: develop a good general knowledge so you at least have
Speaker 2: like a rough lay of the land of the knowledge landscape,
Speaker 2: Like try to learn a little bit about a lot
Speaker 2: of things, because you might not know what you're really
Speaker 2: interested How would you know what you're really interested in
Speaker 2: if you at least aren't like doing it? Peripheral exploration
Speaker 2: a broadly of the knowledge landscape, and you talk to
Speaker 2: people from different walks of life and different industries and
Speaker 2: professions and skills and occupations like just try you learn
Speaker 2: as much as possible. Man search for meaning.
Speaker 1: Isn't the whole thing a search for meaning?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the meaning of life and all? You know,
Speaker 2: But just generally, like I said, I I would encourage
Speaker 2: people to read broadly in many different subject areas and
Speaker 2: and and then try to find something where there's an
Speaker 2: overlap of your talents and what you're interested in. So
Speaker 2: people may may be good at something, but or they
Speaker 2: may have skill at a particular thing, but they don't
Speaker 2: like doing it. So you want to try to find
Speaker 2: a thing where you you're that's a good a good
Speaker 2: combination of of your of the things that you're inherently
Speaker 2: good at but you also like doing. And reading is
Speaker 2: a super fast shortcut to figure out which where are
Speaker 2: you both good at it.
Speaker 1: You like doing it, and it will actually have positive impact.
Speaker 2: Well, you got to learn about things somehow, so reading
Speaker 2: a broad range, it's just really read it. You know.
Speaker 2: One point is that kid, I read through the encyclopedia,
Speaker 2: so that's pretty helpful. And there also things I haven't
Speaker 2: even know existed a lot. Obviously, it's like as broad
Speaker 2: as it gets. Encyclopaedias were digestible I think, you know
Speaker 2: whatever forty years ago. So you know, let me read
Speaker 2: through the condensed version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. I'd recommend
Speaker 2: that you can always like skip subjects, or you read
Speaker 2: a few paragraphs and you know you're not interested, just
Speaker 2: jump to the next one. So read the encyclopedia or
Speaker 2: scan ski skim through it. And but you know, put
Speaker 2: a lot of stock and certainly have a lot of
Speaker 2: respect for someone who puts in an honest day's work
Speaker 2: to do useful things, and and just generally to have
Speaker 2: like a not a zero sum mindset or like have
Speaker 2: have more of a grow the pie mindset, like the
Speaker 2: if if you sort of say, like when when we
Speaker 2: see people like have some including some very smart people,
Speaker 2: kind of taking an attitude of like like like doing
Speaker 2: things that seem like morally questionable, it's often because they
Speaker 2: have at a base sort of axiomatic level, a zero
Speaker 2: sum mindset, and and they without realizing it, they don't
Speaker 2: realize they have a zero S mindset, or at least
Speaker 2: they don't realize it consciously. And so if you have
Speaker 2: zero some mindset, then the only way to get ahead
Speaker 2: is by taking things from other If It's like if
Speaker 2: if the if the pie is fixed, then the only
Speaker 2: way to have more pie is to take someone else's pie.
Speaker 2: But but this is false, Like obviously the pie has
Speaker 2: grown dramatically over time, the economic pie, so the real
Speaker 2: in reality you can have the overuser this analogy, we
Speaker 2: have a lot of you can there's a lot of pie.
Speaker 2: Pie is not fixed, So you really want to make
Speaker 2: sure you're not You're not operating without realizing it from
Speaker 2: a zero sum mindset where where the only way to
Speaker 2: get ahead is to take things from others, then that's
Speaker 2: going to result and you take trying to take things
Speaker 2: from others, which is not not good. It's much better
Speaker 2: to work on adding to the economic pie.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, so.
Speaker 2: Quit creating. Like I said, great, creating more than you
Speaker 2: can sume, doing more than you Yeah, so that's that's
Speaker 2: a big deal. I think there's you know a fair
Speaker 2: number of people in in finance that I do have
Speaker 2: a bit of a zeros mindset.