Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for tuning in.
In this episode, we're gonna be talking about how you
don't just have to worry about high prices for consoles,
you can also worry about how hard they're gonna be.
Speaker 3: Fine to find.
Speaker 1: Soon it's gonna be a good one because we have
Janet Joe on the show.
Speaker 3: Jan how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Grub? As I was looking through the rundown today, I uh,
I was stun lucked when I saw a story talking
about Christmas this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: It's it's that time to start kind of talking about
the holiday season, right it is. We're gonna get to
July fourth here, and then summer's gonna fly by, and
then it's gonna be Halloween before you know it.
Speaker 3: And that is basically that's the year. That's it.
Speaker 1: It's all gonna all gonna be over it is. It
is really, I mean I was saying it all the time.
Now it's really flying by. It's just absolutely eva rating
in my fingers.
Speaker 2: It's zooming by. When I think about certain key events
from last year and I think, oh, we're almost one
year since then. That's crazy. Yep, it's it's wild. But yeah, man, Jen,
I had a hell of a night last night trying
to get this PSVR working.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: Some of the posts, Yeah, it's there's a live a
rant that I had to like write down of like
all the things that went wrong, and that was only
like half of it. Got to a point where it's
like it connected to the internet and then I waited
five minutes and it's like, well, I'm not gonna I'm
just not gonna connect again. Why And then I turned
the PS four off and walked away to go eat dinner.
I came back and it had downloaded the thing and
that you know. And that was after trying to sign
in for thirty minutes because passwords aren't a thing anymore.
We're on the pass keys and it's like I just
changed devices recently, so trying to track that down was
a nightmare. Oh again, that is just the tip of
the iceberg with what went wrong with this thing.
Speaker 3: It's all working now. I got it working.
Speaker 1: So of course we'll do some Monster of the Deep
for fifteen minutes or something like that, and then that'll
be that.
Speaker 3: That's that's the job, Jan, the job.
Speaker 2: We set out when we make a special themed week
just for us exactly. I think it's appalling that the
rest of the industry is not wishing us a happy
fishing week, right.
Speaker 3: It is a failure. It is. It shows just how
callous this industry can be.
Speaker 2: You know, I understand our friends are kind of funny,
are busy, but like our other.
Speaker 3: People don't understand.
Speaker 2: You're right, our other peers across the industry, like VGC.
How come Jordan Midler hasn't ridden a skeet wishing Giant
Bomb happy fishing Week.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing for them.
Speaker 2: Our friends and remap, you know, thankfully, I did hear
the next lander guys confusingly read a chat message saying
fishing week. So I'll take that.
Speaker 3: Ye, that counts.
Speaker 1: We take those, we claim those, yes are ours? Yeah,
that's woke to me. All right, let's let's get into
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the morning mess with. There may not be enough consoles
of this Christmas to meet demand, a major retailer warns.
This is from Chris Scullion at VGC. The release of
Grand Theft Auto six may lead to a shortage of
consoles at Christmas, a major retailer has worn. A senior
games buyer for an unnamed retailer has told The Games
Business that the combination of component shortages and price increases
mean consoles have been in shorter supply than usual, and
that while stock may be available during this relatively quiet period,
the release of GTA six will likely lead to a
situation where console stocks sell out. We've been informed that
because of the ongoing issues around hardware component availability, we
won't be we won't be getting the units we want
ahead of GTA. The senior game gamer games buyer, speaking
without his employer's permission, told the publication demand will likely
outstrip during a outstrip supply during the year end period.
He added the Game Business has contacted Sony and Microsoft
for comment on the claims made, but notes that Xbox
Chief strategy Officer Matthew Ball already told the publication earlier
this month that supply levels were currently an issue. I
could tell you definitely demand for our console exceeds the supply,
Ball told him at the time. A couple yeah, A
couple of things to think about, Jan Hare. First of all,
this sucks.
Speaker 2: This sucks.
Speaker 1: Step forward here again, like after years of of like
you know, especially the earliers, where these consoles were very
hard to get, especially the PS five, but even the
Xbox Series X for a long time there was hard
to get. Yeah, and you get on the other side
of that, and our reward for that, especially for the
people who waited, was well, here's a more expensive version
of these consoles several times over. So now that they
are significantly more expensive, and not only is it going
to be more expensive, it's gonna be hard to find,
which is.
Speaker 3: Likely gonna bring back scalpers.
Speaker 1: Jan It's likely going to bring back higher prices on
eBay for people who absolutely have.
Speaker 3: To have Grand Theft Auto six.
Speaker 2: This stinks, Yeah, grub I thought after we got over
the initial scalpers hump and consoles were a little bit
more available, things would be fine. And then I thought
prices would go down just because we are very i'd say,
late into this console generation at this point, Yeah, definitely,
only to see none of those things be true, and
for scalpers at the gates grub ready and fiending. And
it's wild because at this point I would have assumed
that everyone that would have wanted a PS five PS
five Pro would have already gotten one by now. But
I I guess I didn't realize that there would be
a lot of people still waiting to upgrade for GTA six.
And you know that that's probably outside of the core
gaming audience that we talked to all the time, right,
more so that casual, normal audience that will just that
just wants to walk into a game stop or a
big box retailer. It's still wild, though, cruff that this
is even a thing, And also it's hilarious that this
senior games buyer is defying the wishes of their boss
to share this story.
Speaker 3: To sound the sirens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, part of it does, I'm not gonna lie Grup.
Part of it does feel a little fishy that the
senior fish buyer, Yeah, a little fishing week. It's it's
this is the week to do it. The senior games
buyer that works at a big retailer is creating this
story or feeding into a story about scarcity to drive
people to buy stuff.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I think that's the other side of this.
Jan It's like, is this really gonna be be the case?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: It's like it is very easy to believe with the
component shortage, right, Like, yeah, Sony.
Speaker 3: And Microsoft probably we're holding back.
Speaker 1: On crazy investments in making a lot of consoles right
in this quiet period, and now they might be behind
the eight ball if GTA six hype really does go
off the charts even more than they were expecting. The
hard part to believe is that these two companies would
not have been able to predict, you know, Microsoft and
Sony would not have been able to predict that they
need a lot of consoles to go along side Grand
theft out of six so that they could see the
maximum return, like they are going to miss out.
Speaker 3: If they don't have enough consoles.
Speaker 1: So yeah, are are like that may be beggars belief
a little bit, and it's like okay, so wait, they're
not going to do that or are you just saying
that to drum up demand, And both could be almost.
Speaker 3: Equally true here where it's like we don't really know.
Speaker 1: He's just saying that these companies are trying to catch up,
and maybe they still can. But either way, it's like
this is this is a big moment, and there will
be a lot of people trying to track this stuff down.
I bet some people will run into some issues trying
to get some hardware.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be that bad, jam, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think it's gonna be to the same level like
around the PS five launch right grub, like where people
are constantly refreshing and trying to find whatever.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think you're right, like best Buy is.
Speaker 2: Like selling them now they have them in stock, run
and go get a PS five here. I don't think
it's gonna be like that levels. It's a little hard
for me to believe, just because I feel like I
feel like console sales have probably slowed down a little
bit because of the price increase that I feel like
there must be and there has to be stock laying
around also. I just I don't want this bedlam and
I don't want scalpers to take over the market again
just because of how is that? Yes, exactly, because how
they were wreaking havoc across prices with the launch of
the PS five initially and tried to do that with
like the switch to and what they're trying to do
with the steam controller.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, exactly, and they're going to try even with
the steam dick even though that's a lottery system. I'm
sure those scalpers have found some way to have fifty
entries into those lotteries or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: From Reuter's Real quick. Apple also announced the price increases today.
Prices going up on the iPad and MacBook. That MacBook Neo,
which is basically just an iPhone and a laptop book case,
went from five ninety nine to six ninety nine. So
that's up one hundred dollars. It's a pretty significant increase.
More than more, it's around fifteen percent, right, trying to
do quick math there. Yeah, but everything's kind of going up.
Like Apple hiked the price of the MacBook Air with
five hundred and twelve gigabytes storage, rose from thirteen hundred
or excuse me, from eleven hundred to thirteen hundred. The
MacBook Pro with one terabyte of storage rose to two
thousand dollars from seventeen hundred, and the iPad Air with
one hundred and twenty eight gigabytes of storage rose from
five ninety nine two seven fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and there's stock prices down and stuff like that.
As these stories go blah blah blah, we know that
the component shortage is not cooling off like if anything,
it is spreading. And you know, it's like we talked
about and maybe on a show last week jan about
like oh like RAM prices, it's sort of just gone
from one. This is the one time trickle down economics
is real, like terrible things trickle down pretty well. The
high bandwidth memory was the thing that Aidata centers wanted,
but that's somehow rose cost on TV are six x
and seven and then five and then four and now three,
which is ancient. And we've been seeing the same thing
happening over on the side of story rige side of
things with SSDs, you know, me VME ssd s going
up the price, and then SATA drives and now traditional
hardware hard drives excuse me, have gone up in price
astronomically like in the last week or so. It just
keeps going up and up and up, and people who
are trying to build their nasses are tearing their hair out.
Speaker 3: It's spreading.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you're one of these companies, you
probably are trying to like find the right amount of
gas on the pedal.
Speaker 3: Right, how much.
Speaker 1: Can we really be making enough of these things while
also not getting out over our skis paying way too
much money for consoles that might sit on the shelf,
because that costs us way more now than it has
ever cost before. That's a yeah, I could see the
difficulty of navigating that. It sucks for here, and yeah,
we're looking for the guy who did this, And of
course it is the companies like Microsoft and really now
Sony is right there trump trumpeting AI as much as
any anyone else, so they all made the bed another
line in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thankful for the longest time that Sony
PlayStation was kind of not talking about AI, and it
was under my hopeful assumption that they were taking a
bold stance on it, like no, no, we're not doing that,
only to see that eventually trickle in the other factor
in this equation when it comes to talking about how
spending is gonna happen around the holidays up until that point.
Who the hell knows what's going to happen from the
end of June now to the holiday season.
Speaker 3: We have an election between then, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We have an election until then. But also gas prices,
grocery prices. At the end of the day, video game consoles.
Video games are hobbyist activities that people don't need to
live on a day to day basis, and a lot
of people will have been shifting their priorities of things
that they do need, like, you know, you will need
a computer if you're a student or at your going
to work or something like that. Yes, and you need groceries.
You need to put food on families, So I could
see that also being a factor in this overall equation
on console availability, console sales moving forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are just some you no, negotiable pressure points
in people's lives. Food, shelter and the stuff, and that
stuff is not you know, groceries are not going down
to price, Homes are not going down in prices. You know,
we had some legislation passed here about addressing that that's
gonna take years to make a difference. And even then
it might just catch up to like baseline, so that
prices stopped going up and they'll just sort of level
out at a place where it's still unaffordable for most people.
So kind of when we start talking about prices going
up on consoles, that's such such a luxury.
Speaker 3: Item at this point.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a time when maybe affordable computing
was so affordable that that you could put it in
this thing of like that is a reasonable hobby to
engage in, whether it's console or PC, And now that
is it is clearly shipped shipped out of that lane
and into luxury goods, and it's, uh, we'll see how
that like shakes out as like normal people are gonna
want to play Grand Theft Auto six. Uh, those are
going to be immovable object and unstoppable unstoppable force meeting
each other, and we're gonna have to kind of witness
how that all shakes out.
Speaker 2: And Greb, this is also we're not talking about how
desperate people are over wages as well, right, I mean,
we're gonna talk soon about people getting laid off, and
yes that affects people in the tech industry, video game
development industry, but people like in some blue collar jobs
as well, are just like feeling the effects of the
economy just slowly closing its hands around everyone's necks. Like, Yeah,
there was a recent news story in the Bay Area
of a school, like a summer camp getting all of
their MacBook stolen because who knows that delicious ram, that
delicious ram. Someone need wanted to try and make a
quick buck off of selling kids computers or computers. There
were four kids for the summer in a program. People
are desperate. People are getting a little bit wacky out there.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Trump cancels signing a bipartisan housing bill until his Save
America actors passed.
Speaker 2: Go houl in the fucking pool, you idiot, holding.
Speaker 1: The most popular legislation that was actually bipartisan for like
the first time in thirty years or something like that.
Hostage so that you could steal an election. Just cool,
cool stuff that we have happening over here constantly. All right, Well,
that's not gonna help him in the election, which will happen.
I think, you know, fun thing to say, I think
the election will happen. Jan Bungee announces layoffs as it
acknowledges destiny to fell short of expectations. Which is it's
just weird to say that at this point, but this
is from Sculling at VGC. Bunge has announced that it
will be making further layoffs. The Destiny to studio made
the announcement and a statement on Twitter, essentially confirming previous
reports that the studio was planning a significant number of layoffs.
With great sadness, we are announcing a reduction in force
as we reorganize Bungie. The statement reads, as the leaders
of Bungie past and present, we recognize Destiny two fell
short of expectations these past several years, following our final
content update to Destiny two, and with our future projects
still in early incubation, we unfortunately could not continue operating
at our previous size. We know this decision was a
profound impact on the people have affected their families, friends,
and teammates. While those changes are necessary to best position
the studio now and for the future, that does not
lessen the difficulty of this moment or the impact it
has had on those affected. Later, we will share more
about the future with you all, but today is not
that day. Okay, Yeah, see that right, Save that stuff
for another time. You're right, and not this day. All
this other stuff is such bullshit at this point, Jan,
It's like, yeah, we know this affects the families. We
know this is really bad for the people who were
laying laying off. U don't just say it, show it, Like,
what are you doing to sort of make you know,
to make like to get to a point where it's
clear that you understand and you are taking maybe pay
cuts at the executive level. There are shakeups on the
executive level, changes are being made up there. That's you know,
we know whose decisions these were, and it was not
the people who are being laid off. They just did
all the work to make the value in the first place,
and then you now are cutting them miyd.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a story as all as time.
Speaker 1: At this point, We've been through these layoff stories a
million times now, Jan, and it's always this. For the
most part, this one just feels like, God, you could
have seen this coming a mile away. Destiny to was
successful if you could have gotten your hands around things
in a more manageable way early early on, and you
just kind of kept pushing and pushing. And the owners
of Bungee when they were being acquired by Sony clearly
just put on a dog and pony show, smoke and
mirrors and made it seem like things were going so
much better than they actually were. So they got their
huge payday, got to you know, either keep their jobs
or get out of Dodge either way with all that money.
And then the now the workers are paying for that
magic trick, and it's like that seems to be what
has happened here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh grub, I never understand why in any of
these layoffs that come out. Uh also that it's it's
it gets so mad when I will see random key
art of whatever geometric shapes and then a block of
texts saying how sorry a CEO or management is, when really,
I management should be held accountable, when these like bosses
at the top should be held accountable because they're the
ones calling the shots that put them in this spot.
It completely discounting how big Destiny Too is and was,
and then continuing to put focus into Marathon, which I
understand is a good game and has like has developed
like a loyal audience, but also you are are are
playing with people's livelihoods at this point and getting rid
of all these talented people for what how are you
going to then support marathon moving forward or try and
scale up Marathon moving forward. Right, it doesn't make sense
because the people that are are are making these games,
they're the ones that are more important than the person
at the top that is like ready to perhaps maybe
even go into Chad GBT or Claude and ask for
what is the most PC way in a heart wrenching
way to announce that we have to lay off people,
rather than taking like a physical human stance on this.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know if they even do that.
Speaker 1: Pee Parsons was like so detached from anything he might
not have been going to AI unless it was to
ask about how can I buy twenty five more cars
or whatever, which is like a real number of cars
he bought over a two year period for something like
several million dollars. It's like that's what he was spending
his time doing. And in the meantime, the people making
the games were kind of just doing their best to
get that game into as good of a position as
it could and it's fell short of expectations. What were
the expectations for testin two?
Speaker 3: And I get it.
Speaker 1: I talk about I say it all the time. Jan
The expectations are based on how much it costs to
run a company. This one just seems like something got
detached from reality in a real way where it's like,
if you have your studio set up in such a
way where the performance of Destiny Too is not enough,
that is not on the performance of the game. It
is clearly on the people who set up the studio.
Something has gone incredibly wrong, something has broken at a
fundamental level. And to just get to say that out loud,
to put that in writing, that that game fell short
of expectations and then what we need to do now
is get rid of a bunch of people while we
figure out what's next.
Speaker 3: Feels like, Oh, Bungee's dead. This is it.
Speaker 1: The people that are left there that are going to
be in charge are completely brain dead, and the people
trying to make Marathon a thing are Their morale is
going to be in the toilet. People are going to
start looking for a way out.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I know that the folks that are
in that specific position grub are their backs are against
the wall. Because it seems like an insurmomountable tasks to
move anywhere in the industry at this point, because there
are so many people looking for a job. But at
that point, of course, whatever subsequent product is going to
suffer because not only have you reduce the size of
your team, morale is low in whoever you are going
to try and exploit next in hire next, because you're
gonna pay them chump change compared to all the people
you laid off. Their foundational knowledge of whatever tools you're
using isn't gonna be up to par as the talent
you let go. And then you're gonna continue to blame
the performance of the game sales wise on the devs
and the audience rather than taking the blame yourselves.
Speaker 1: Win Bungie. Okay, let me ask you, what do you
think is more likely that in five years bunch of
returns with some sort of sad new game that is
like maybe licensed or something like that, or they or
Sony kind of just says, let's just take our losses here,
or would that be too embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I could definitely see the latter happening more grub of
Sony cutting their losses rather than Bungee having some rallying
game that that quote unquote brings them back, right. I
could see with how Sony has been okay, closing a
studio like Blue Point in Japan's studios in the past,
which felt like pillars for for for them or institutions
within the industry as a whole. I could see a future, unfortunately,
where they decide to close Bungie.
Speaker 1: Destiny three is just not the cards, Like that's the thing,
like that, it is way too expensive the amount of
money they asked to make that, And it's like even
if they cut that in half, it's still too expensive,
Like cutting in a half would still make it one
of the most expensive games ever made. Like that, Like
that the budget that they proposed in the first place.
So then to me, that just says there's no way
that game happens under anyone who's currently making any decisions
at either Sony or Bungie. They'd have to sort of
come back in a different way and like be like
Marathon is Marathon, Bungie is a scrappy studio. Maybe they
do some stuff in early access, like that's we're talking
ten years from now.
Speaker 3: That's a very different company.
Speaker 1: So like if if Destiny three is not on the table, god,
I don't know, was it you there was like they
should just go make the next Halo. They should like
partner up with Microsoft and do that, because it's like, man, I.
Speaker 2: May have been me, but I would think that'd be hilarious. Yeah, Greb,
I feel very bad for the folks that are are
getting let go from Bungee, not because of anything that
they themselves did, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Warframe is such like an interestingly, it's like,
how does Warframe figure it out? And it's obviously they
just kind of grew up, you know, blew up at
the right size, like commensurate with the like what was
happening the game. And you know, it's not like the
people making that game are in some cheap place. They're
in the Toronto area, which is very expensive in a
lot of its own ways, and Canada has higher costs
of living in a lot of ways. And yet they've
been able to make that make sense and they're making
a new game and stuff, and who knows, maybe that
maybe the party does wrap up soon for that, but
it does just doesn't seem like it. It doesn't seems
like they figured it out.
Speaker 2: I think part of it, Grub. It feels like that
studio is a studio that actually feels human. And yeah,
they they listen to our audience, they take that into account.
And that they're not making drastic moves to exploit their
existing audience. And yeah, like ten OCN is huge and
like a like a quiet behemoth, and anytime that Warframe
pops up at like a pax or anything and has
their very suggestive statue that they bring around, that audience
like shows up in droves like this last past East,
I believe, like Warframe was having a panel and it
wasn't until like in the evening, but there were people
lining up in the morning so they could get a spot.
And I think, of course, like it probably like the
first couple people in line probably got something that you
could carry over into the game. But still that's like
that dedicated audience that is showing up obscenely early for Warframe.
Speaker 3: Yep. And and you know Destiny has all of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, they just and clearly things really fell
apart under Sony after the after selling it. And I'm
not saying that's it's Sony's fault. I think Bungie and
Sony have a lot of blame to go around, but
I would put most of it at the leadership of
Bungee totally. So that means it was starting even beforehand
when they were independent, and it's like they just couldn't
they Their their choice was let's sell out here and
get our payday and leave the mess to someone else
instead of being responsible in the first place. And that
might be the big difference between what's happened between Destiny
and Warframe.
Speaker 2: Grub quick quick question for you, and I guess also
the folks at home. I know that Destiny two is
one of those games like a Red Dead Redemption two
where it's kind of someone's forever game, or it can
be someone's forever game. Where does that audience go to now, Like,
where where do they get it over to? Because I
don't necessarily see all those people going over to Marathon,
and you know, Warframe may not be their cup of
tea or their favorite flavor of games. So I'm curious
where that audience shifts to if they shift to anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna they're gonna kind of be nomads, right,
They're gonna be I think they're gonna be sort of
out to see for a while. And there will be
some game that does come along in the next three
issh years that it's like, hey, we have some new
ideas for online multiplayer you know gaming where it's like
your PvE stuff, it's some PvP in there as well.
Check it out, and I think that will it will
rape a lot of the rewards. I think Warframe is
actually probably gonna capture some of these people like that,
people that the good vibes over there kind of always exist.
Maybe people just show up for Soul or Soul Frame
is that what it's called. Yeah, uh, something like that.
But yeah, I think most of them will be no mads.
They'll try out Marathon. If Marathon doesn't grab them, then yes,
they'll kind of just be waiting in the wings for
something to bring them back, or you know, they'll they'll
move on, they'll get a different hobby, like that's that's
what normal people do, and that's what most of the
people we're talking about are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the crazy part and unfortunate part of
because I've seen a bunch of friends online that spent
so much time in Destiny too, kind of just reckoning
with the fact that it's it's going to go away,
and that, yeah, they don't that there is no next
place for like their Destiny to group to move move
to after this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like, you know, I've talked about it
before thousands of hours in Call of Duty and then
in titan Fall, and when I was done with that genre,
I was just kind of done, you know, fuck fish,
that that thing from adaptation, right, I was done with
the ocean. Fuck fish. I'm moving on. Happy fishing week. Uh,
And I like it's yeah, just kind of fuck first
person shooters. I don't need that stuff anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 1: I had my field. That was a point in my life,
and I've moved on to other things. And that was other.
It was other video games, but not other multiplayer online
competitive video games.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's gonna happen to a lot
of players.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break. When we come back, there's
plenty more to get into.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see what that idiot Tim Sweeney is talking
about this time. After these messages, if you want to
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We'll be right back. It's Game mess Mornings. I'm Jeff Grubb,
that's Jan Ochoa. We are gonna continue on here with
the next story. Compulsion Games developers are now looking for
work as Xbox studio closures loom. This is from Insider Gaming.
Basically the story here as though Jen that people are
noticing on LinkedIn that a lot of the developers at
Compulsion Games are not waiting for the ACTS to drop,
or maybe the ACTS has dropped in secret, like not
public I shouldn't say a secret, not publicly and we
don't know about it and they do. But either way,
a lot of them have announced they are looking for
work because they are no longer going to be at Compulsion.
This feels like, yeah, okay, things we keep hearing like this,
something like this is going to happen. I think we're
expecting pretty significant layoffs from Xbox, especially after their fiscal
year ends at the end of this month. And in
the meantime, what we've heard is a lot of these
studios are in negotiations with the leadership at Xbox and
Microsoft about like what could happen, finding ways to save
the studios, maybe some major layoffs and kind of starting
the studio back up, something small that seems unlikely. The
more likely scenario is closure and something in between would
be finding a buyer external to Microsoft but through Microsoft,
so that they still kind of get a cut, which
feels like it's going to be an impediment to that happening.
In the meantime, if you're someone who works at these
studios and and you can kind of get you know,
you put your you lick your finger, put it in
the wind. Jan You're like, Oh, I'm at Compulsion and
I don't feel like things are going well with these negotiations.
It's time to just like, not I go. I can
only control what I can control. Let me go find something.
Speaker 3: Feels like that's what this.
Speaker 2: Is, Yeah, Greb, this it feels similar to the thought
you brought up with the last story about Bungeee, where
the the dev's ad Compulsion games see the writing on
the wall and are looking to get out before things
get potentially worse or or or to get ahead of it.
Probably right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the earlier you get out on
the market, the better it's going to Because if you're
expecting big layofs that Microsoft, there's suddenly going to be
a lot of people like you know, demand for your
job might be pretty low because there's you know, it's
oversaturating supply or so the opposite, you know, supply will
oversaturate the demand pretty quickly, So yeah, getting out there
a little bit earlier could make a difference. It's shitty
again that people have to think about their lives that way.
How do I fit into a supply and demand market?
Treating yourself as a commodity. But that is what capitalism
does to us all the time, constantly, and like you
kind of sort of objectify yourself, and that is it's
very harrowing to witness and to see this and you know,
continue to think, like man, the sort of dance that
Microsoft puts on when they're talking to the public versus what.
Speaker 3: It's like behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: It's such a stark and grim difference that it's continue
to be in a situation where I just can't feel
anything but sick to my stomach about Xbox in this moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Greb one hundred percent with you. Uh And I
really really hate to see uh Sony PlayStation go and
have a similar sentiment with that I have for Xbox
right now. I'm hoping they don't get to that point.
But anytime a big company starts talking about AI gives
me the he b gbis.
Speaker 1: Because because we know, like that's we say we Jamie
talk about a constantly on the show and like what
we're like the understanding there is no matter what they're saying,
we know the real thing is, yes, we get to
cut jobs.
Speaker 3: We know that what it always is one of the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and like this this is extending past the
games industry as well at this point, Like, yeah, A
twenty four announcing they're partnering with Google and making a
massive investment in AI. I'm like, all right, cool, I
like y'all's films, not gonna go anymore that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just what I like.
Speaker 1: Again, it's like, because it's a it bums me out
regardless of anything else. Like I want to go spend
time in a movie theater thinking about cool stuff and
having a good time. And if I'm thinking about A
twenty four now it is gross. Yeah, I just don't
want to put myself in that environment, let alone the
next step of like just thinking about the very basics
of what it means for people's jobs.
Speaker 3: And when I think about that, it's even worse.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I think that when we look at something
like Compulsion Games, it does feel like Microsoft is maybe
doing these negotiations in a little bit of bad faith.
Speaker 3: I would love to be proven wrong. They might be
doing it.
Speaker 1: Just try to have like a little bit of a
well we tried, sort of pr moment when this is
all said and done, and their appetite for actually insurance,
Like because again, they could just do the toys for
Bob thing, They could suck it up, they could let
all these studios go independent.
Speaker 3: If that's of course, it takes two to tango.
Speaker 1: Does anyone at Compulsion Games sort of want to take
on the risk of running that studio?
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know, but at the.
Speaker 1: Very least, letting them find their own partner to partner
with would be better than Microsoft getting in the way there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just feels skuy grub to hear that
Microsoft no longer has interest in Compulsion Games and still
wants to get whatever cut they can before they get
rid of Compulsion Games. Also, you know, South of Midnight
is a game that I would still really really like
to play, but because of the BDS boycotts, it's just
something I won't check out.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: I started it up and was just like, yeah, like,
you know, don't need a lot of excuses not to
keep playing. I was like, I was kind of feeling
it but not enough to be like, I'm gonna see
this through while still not feeling great about Xbox in
that moment. Tim Sweeney says only hope for new games
is to connect economies of other games, and I wonder
who he thinks will be in the middle of those transactions.
This is from Nicole Carpenter at game developer Epic Games.
Speaker 3: CEO.
Speaker 1: Tim Sweeney wants video game companies to connect their respective
games virtual economies. It's the only hope for new games
to succeed, he said in an interview with IGN. The
only way that we can hope for new games coming
into the market to be able to succeed when there's
so much Metcalf's Law at place and so many captive audiences.
In the really big games, you know, Fortnite, Rodblocks, PUBG
Mobile and a few other really huge ones, it's got
to be that those games get momentum by connecting to
the economies in other games.
Speaker 3: Sweeney said.
Speaker 1: I think that can really reinvigorate the market if people
are constantly looking to new games and sources of new
as sources of new items that they can earn everywhere
and be able to really easily move together with their friends.
So okay, let's explain this. People are like, oh, is
this the NFTs thing coming back? Not really, it's the
metaverse thing that was like always side by side with
NFTs and everyone always knew was like, wait, isn't that
just like Steam Marketplace? But you guys get to control
more of it, and it's like, yeah, that's what that is.
And obviously, the way he imagines this will work is
all of these games are on the Unreal engine, and
then when you go to take one thing from another game,
well that you're excited about that, and that means more
stuff will be put in these games, maybe more these gives.
We have user generated content, and all of that stuff
could be provided with a back end services platform provided
by Epic and Unreal, which would have percentages taken, you know,
small percentages here and there. But if it's all happening
and Unreal again that's what he's pitching here, then he
gets to make more money. And he also doesn't have
to make more stuff to make more money. He could
just make the tools and let other people do the work.
And that is you know rent, you know, rentiers, people
who take rent, people who stand in the way, the middleman,
the true person who makes the market go around. Jan uh,
fuck off this. This dude needs to shut up so
much more than he does. He almost never shuts up.
And the thing is he should probably always shut up.
What a dork, Grub, He's terrible. I hate him. I'm
sorry that's my journalistic take here. I hate this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not advocating for bullying, but but I mean.
Speaker 1: You can't get him because's gonna cimb up that tree
outside of epic or whatever he did in that one video.
Speaker 2: Great, it's good. Good for him to be that mobile. Yeah, great,
good for you, Tim. Yeah, Grub, I don't have much
to say because I'm just stuck with like my head
in my hands of like shot up, like this isn't
what any This type of talk isn't what anyone that
is actually playing in consuming games wants to hear, and
and like yeah, this is also just continues and solidifies
for me, Grub, that I pretty much other than our
own CEO, trust any and other than our own c suite,
trust most c suites across the board, because there is
zero interest in taking risks or taking any creative moves
to try and like get a new audience or make
something fun, new and exciting. It is all just motivated
by dollar signs and how to continue to exploit the players,
the parents out there and their wallets. It's like, it's
crazy that I feel like a year or however long ago, Greb,
we're talking about Epic and their dark patterns with how
they operate and wind up exploiting younger gamers in.
Speaker 3: All gamers, but especially younger gamers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all gamers, but especially younger gamers into buying more things.
And this just feels like another way of Hey, they're
not dark patterns anymore, this is just how we operate.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's like the kind of thing where if Valve
was doing this with Steam, which they could easily, right,
they already have the Steam marketplace. They don't have the
interoperability of like the idea of, you know, the promise
of the interoperability of if everything's on unreal that thing
and over there will just work over there, which no,
there's no way it's gonna be that simple. Developers are
still gonna have to do work on every item and
from every other game, and it just like in ninety nine,
a huge percentage of the time it probably won't work
exactly the way you want it to unless the developers
give it that love. So what I mean, unless it's
just a skin, just a skin, maybe that works, but then,
like the rigging is gonna be different in every game.
I just don't believe this concept that it's gonna just work,
even with like their magic of we'll have Claude do it. No,
it's gonna look shitty and people are not gonna feel
good about it, and it's gonna be a joke and
it'll be over there. So it's like it's gonna require
effort from the developers, just like it would if someone
like Valve did it, where it's like, hey, we could
do it the Steam marketplace, where if you buy an
item for one game, well if the developer does the work,
so that's in the other game, you just get it.
Like that's effectively the same thing. And if Valve was
doing it, Tim Sweeney would be shitting his pants publicly.
He would be going to the town square and scream
shitting his pants, and like it's so nakedly obvious that
he would be doing that, that like the fact that
he's out there being like, but it's good when I
do it is a joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really want to see that though. I want
to see him.
Speaker 3: Work.
Speaker 1: Gabe, Come on, man, let's let's let's make some fun
stuff happening please Yeah, I uh yeah, man, I unreal
feels like it's going to break here soon. Like someone's
gonna be like, hey, we actually don't need this engine,
and someone's gonna have there's gonna be more open source
options in like five to ten years that people would
just be like, let's.
Speaker 3: Go in this direction.
Speaker 1: Like, especially if AI is like this thing right with AI,
couldn't you just tell it to eventually make an open
source engine that everyone can just use, Like what would
stop it? It's gonna be this magic thing that could
do anything. Why wouldn't that be possible? And then, once again,
as always, we owned with these conversations about AI. If
it's as powerful as your claiming big company, why do
we need you?
Speaker 3: What do you actually provide here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh greble Like that is the other elephant in
the room that I feel like none of these big
bosses want to admit. Is that all right? If the
tools are as powerful as you're saying, and we can
and actually go for it and invest in it and
like spend her time using learning it and we don't
need you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and unless unless it's not as magic as you claim,
which certainly seems like it's often the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Like there. I don't know how it is
in other metropolitan areas, but grab like when I am
like driving down the freeway or taking public transportation, there
are every every single billboard is for some type of
AI component in a company. It's fucking gross. I wish
I saw an injury lawyer that looked like Dan Reichert
instead and that I could say, like, looks like Dan,
they will make them pay everybody. Yeah, And then at
this point, I don't know what these AI companies, who
are you marketing to? Are you marketing towards each other?
What are you even advertising? At this point, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's just like they're just marketing the stock, right,
They're marketing the I p O. Like that's that's what
it all is. That's why they're all. They're all racing
towards these IPOs.
Speaker 2: Like I see several billboards grub of just like some
generic scene at home or like a couple sitting somewhere,
and then just on the lower or lower corner, I'll
just say chat GBT, Like what the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 3: What do you talk? What are you talking about? What
does that need? This wasn't possible until chat SHBT happened.
Speaker 2: So, like you know, when we talk about these stories
of like Tim Sweeney being like an absolute dufus, like
I don't believe in the tools because of how these
people are positioning it, just because like the general sentiment
you mentioned grub then why do we need you over here? Tim?
Speaker 1: And it's so because like we see both sides of it,
Like you see the uh, the Excel spreadsheet stuff, and
like like you watch someone like show a clip of
like here's what I can do with the AI and say, oh, okay, wow,
that that just worked weird uh, And then someone tries
to make any sort of video thing and it's like,
this is the most awkward, weird vegetable vegetables in a
conversation with one another that doesn't sound anything like real people,
and yet millions of people are watching it because taste
is just in the gutter these days.
Speaker 3: But it's like, yeah, that that looks terrible.
Speaker 1: That can never really be a thing long term, but yeah,
which way it's going to break?
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 1: It still feels like it's going to break somewhere in
the middle where it's it's not as magical, so it
just will lose its luster so fast, and these companies
will have to pay for it. But they know that
it's just about a couple of these companies get getting
IPOs and getting rich. Right now, all right, Sony is
intentionally losing money on the Japan only PS five short version.
Here is Hideki Hideaki Nishino, who's the CEO of SIE,
said that the fifty five thousand dollars excuse me, fifty
five thousand yen Japan only PS five digital edition is
losing money. It's discounting, but it is a strategic investment.
Sony created the region locked model partly because the weak
yen was encouraging overseas consumers to import Japanese consoles. Restricting
it to Japanese accounts allowed Sony to subsidize the price
without creating an international grade market bargain with a lot
of just speculative selling in other places, arbitrage and stuff. Yeah,
I hear just hearing them say this out loud, that
they that they consider this important because they have a
strategic investment priority in Japan. Makes me wondering to say, Okay,
what does that look like? What is the next step?
You're like, you want people buying PlayStations in Japan. Are
you going to refocus on that market something that you
seem to pull away from ten yearsish ago? A little
bit more than that maybe, And like the whole idea
back then was we want to have global hits. Well
now it feels like if you start that at home
in Japan, those games most of the time turn into
global hits.
Speaker 3: Can we expect that is.
Speaker 1: There some chance of returning to an era where Japan
Studio was a going concern? Could you sort of re
you know, or bring that back in some way? I'm
getting hopeful, jam, but maybe I shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: I just don't know, crub Like, this is just my
assumption here. I just don't assume that the Japanese audience
is at all interested in a lot of like marathon
or games as the service stuff. I say that, and
I know that mobile gaming is gigantic in Japan.
Speaker 3: I just still very popular.
Speaker 2: It's still very popular. I just don't know how you
capture that audience or even even Playkate to them.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it is that handheld.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's the handheld like the PS six handheld, right,
like you invest in it now so that people can
get some games in their library library, and then suddenly,
now there's a p S six handheld that is the
PlayStation equivalent of a switch or switch to, and that
is something that fits in better with the Japanese way
of playing games.
Speaker 2: I don't know, uh, Grub, here's the thing. I know
that we were just pooh poohing on Sony and PlayStation
and stuff earlier in this episode. Y'all can make this good, y'all,
y'all can get me on your side. Everyone knows what
I'm about to present here, uh with this PS six handheld,
your y'all are proposing what if you uh and you know,
grub Grub is having a lot of fun with a
VMU right now right? It's fun? True?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: What if you had a watch component to it? Huh?
Speaker 3: If you just had to watch Sony? When if you
had a PlayStation watch?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, what have you had? What if it looked
like a little PS one with a small disc tray
that you could open up?
Speaker 3: Well, shit, that rules jam Okay.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like when you say these things,
do you have an idea of like what they look like?
Speaker 3: And you clearly already do.
Speaker 2: I have several ideas, grub are.
Speaker 3: All of them form or any of them function?
Speaker 2: What's function?
Speaker 1: Moving on merit I PV Vault Breaker mode coming in July.
This is from Jim Hargraves at the sixth Axis Marathon
Season two. Bungee has announced that its Extraction shooter will
be getting a new PV mode and that is coming
in July.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 1: They they're trying a lot of things with Marathon. The
thing is they're trying them pretty quickly. Like you know,
they have that free week a few weeks back, and
now already they have an experimental PV mode. As a reminder,
Marathon is very much a PvP experience. It's about going
into that world trying to you know, PvP vvps. So
like obviously you go in the world, try to get
loot from the world and the environment, and then you
might face off against other players who want to get
that stuff from you.
Speaker 3: That is the heart of that genre.
Speaker 1: Now people are like some people are like, actually, I
love all the aesthetics here in the art here, and
I want to experience the content, but this is too stressful,
and I feel like when I lose my progress because
of other people, I just want.
Speaker 3: To stop playing the game that happened.
Speaker 1: This happened with C of Thieves, a game that has
like much lower stakes because it's not like you're upgrading.
It's the extraction element of cf TH's was just like
a loop to give you something to do without really
being like you're building towards something. And even that sort
of was like too much for people, and they're like, yeah,
eventually we got a PvE mode, and so Marathon trying that.
Speaker 3: I don't It doesn't feel like it's going to change.
Speaker 1: Its fortune, but it will at least be interesting to
see if it like registers with a new audience.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're gonna try and plan to do
another free weekend with a scrub, because then I could
easily see people that were off put by EVPVPVVBBB nature
of the game being off putting. Like Marathon. I really
like the look of the game. I think it looks
amazing great fonts, maybe Fonts of the Year in twenty
twenty six for Game of the Year this year, but
the nature of how having to deal with other people
in that PvP nature is I don't want to say
off putting to me, but it just adds a layer
of stress that I don't want induced into my day.
If I could just go in and grab some fight
some enemies, perhaps play with a couple of friends, like
that seems more of a good time rather than having
to have some harring adventure anytime I boot up the game.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm uh yeah, definitely curious to like to try it.
For me, like the idea of like getting into a
PVPVE world and the chance of like making friends with
a stranger or something like that, I still find that
very appealing. And yet I'm not playing marathon all that much.
So maybe this is the thing that like, actually I
do want this, and I want something that's lower stakes,
which I'm definitely at that point in my life a
little bit.
Speaker 2: And like the lower stakes thing cannot be understated grub
because like I will boot up a game of Marvel
Rivals like every other day just because I can pop in,
and like the time commitment is low, investment is low,
so I can just pop in and have a good time.
And most of the time it's just solo dolo versus marathon,
which feels like a whole endeavor to pop into to
just try and like a extract and get a couple
of goods and look at some neat fonts.
Speaker 1: GTA six disc version will reportedly be coming in December.
Insider claims this is from Chris going at VGC the
idea of like not even waiting a little bit longer.
So it makes it so obvious they're just doing this
to avoid resale and leaks at the beginning, although I
don't know, yeah they care about leaks. They really just
want to, you know, squelch the used market. According to
Polish site Ppe dot pl, whose insider garage dearI was
previously responsible for the initial claims that GT six would
not have a physical version on release day in order
to prevent leaks, has now confirmed that or at least
claimed that the game will get a physical version in December.
I think if they're going to do that, my original
thing idea was like next year we'll get the ultimate
version only on disc at one hundred dollars. Maybe they
still do that, jam, but if it's coming that quickly,
to me, that just makes it sound like, oh, they
want to have the eighty dollars version on store shelves
before the end of the year, maybe not sure, not
by Black Friday, but by the end of the year. Well,
they could still do it for gift giving season. Yeah,
and you know obvious they're going to have a case
with a code in it on shelves, but some people
will hold off.
Speaker 3: Do you think that sounds right? It sounds I mean,
it sounds weird to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the timing of it. Of course, it's
going to be ready in December because after that initial
boom of people grub that don't care or just want
to play it as soon as possible, even if they
don't have like the means to quickly download a game,
they're gonna go do that. And then December time people
are looking for gifts to give and they'll see GTA
six on shelves.
Speaker 1: Yep, Valve releases Steam os, so anyone can make a
Steam Machine now basically this is part of that Steam
Machine release.
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna need an a m.
Speaker 1: D GPU, yes, so for now you will have to
be using an AMD graphics card. As Valve continues to
work on NVIDIAs for support for an official release in
twenty twenty seven. I got some older parts laying around,
jan I might build a steam machine cool. I think
we'll do a stream of that. I'm going to talk
to Sean about it. We'll hang out, but maybe him
and I can answer some questions about what this is
like while I focus on the building.
Speaker 3: You'll get that going here pretty soon.
Speaker 2: You should get back lark to three D print a case.
Speaker 3: Perfect, all right, yeah, and then get a semi a keyboard. Cool.
Speaker 1: So that's that's neat Man. Linux as a gaming platform
growing and growing would be a very welcome development. Just
leave anything that's not open source behind that would be
very nice.
Speaker 3: Yea, all right, A.
Speaker 1: Couple of things today. That Capcom Spotlight thing is going
to be happening at five pm Eastern, roughly thirty minutes
as usual. This is just expect this to be updates
on well known quantities or entities. I should say this
is going to be Dragon's Dogma two, Yeah, Dark Orisen
Monster under Stories three, Twisted Reflection, and Annie Musha Way
of the Sword. Capcom has not advertised things like Resident
Evil Veronica or the recently announced street Fighter six. For this,
the street Fighter six material like the updates there today
major releases. Star Fox is out, Federal Live six, Last
Round is out. Citizens Sleeper one and two are hitting
the Switch to Arcade Archives are Arcade Archives two tecan
so the arcade version of tech In is hitting PS five,
Xbox Series X and S and Switch to a Bussiness
that game we played a while back, Chan that's now
hitting consoles PS five and Xbox Series, and the Gecko
Gods is hitting Switch to I saw people to Yeah,
the Getso God. And then tomorrow EVO begins. They have
twelve tournaments going on. It's scheduled to begin in Las
Vegas and arc System Works. It's teased that they will
have newly announced Blaze Blue Central Fiction JLC Fighter revealed.
Speaker 3: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard as much heat on the street or
excitement for this EVO. I wonder why, Greb.
Speaker 3: It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to put any sort of blame on anyone
except for Saudio Arabia. All right, that does it for
the headlines. Let's get to the poll question from yesterday.
I have the results right over here. Are you going
to pre order Grand Theft Auto six?
Speaker 3: Yes? Or no? Hell no?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Pre order eighty two? Percent
said what the hell are you talking about? Eighteen percent
said yes, still quite a big number, especially for this audience,
which which I would consider pretty savvy.
Speaker 2: Jan Yeah. Yeah. Also just pre ordering, Why pre ordering?
Speaker 3: Why? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It doesn't Yeah, but I mean people get excited, like
if you know you're gonna get this and you know
you could start preloading it a week early and just
have it ready to go that like that day and
you took took time off work.
Speaker 3: There's those people exist, and I mean I.
Speaker 1: Understand it to a certain degree, but it's just like, yeah,
I don't know, pre ordering feels bad these days.
Speaker 2: I mean, GTA six was the talk of the town
at the gym yesterday, and you know, most of the
people out of the gym aren't necessarily like tuned in
and cool and hot as our audience is, despite what
Jeff Beckler thinks of their appearance. But having to tell
them and be the person that goes, I'm actually the
eighty dollars version doesn't have a disc. You're gonna have
to download it. And also the one hundred dollars version
is going to get you access to stores, and know
the eighty dollar version you won't eventually get access to those,
So I guess if you really want to play it,
you have to get the one hundred dollar version. I
don't control the prices. I don't actually make games.
Speaker 1: And it's very funny to see this as the ultimate edition,
being like, yeah, there's five stores you can't access, and
be like, what are you gonna do for the PC
ultimate version where people are just gonna be able to
get around that with cheat engine or whatever else or
mods that will just open those things up. That's that's
pretty dumb. Can you come up with something more creative?
Speaker 3: And I dount no, you know what?
Speaker 1: But I think it's a bad sign for Grand Theft
Auto six that this is their ultimate edition. It feels antiquated,
feels behind the times, and is that indicative of.
Speaker 3: What we can expect from from Grand Theft Auto six?
I hope not.
Speaker 1: It's a big game that I want to enjoy, Yeah,
but I don't know, not feeling too confident about it.
Speaker 2: Also like I don't know, like you had all this time,
y'all Make it cool, make it hot, give me a
gold chain with it if you're gonna make me pay
that much.
Speaker 3: Something cool, Yeah, like a watch.
Speaker 2: I think it's funny. That the top comment on this
pole grub And I'm just reading here, all right, folks,
people listening at home. I'm not advocating for things. I'm
free supporting the facts. This person says, I don't think
there's a pre order button on QB Torrent, at least
I haven't found one.
Speaker 3: Keep looking, Let's there somewhere. All right, fantastic.
Speaker 1: That does it for the pole question from yesterday, we
have a new poll question. Are you planning to buy
a console by the end of twenty twenty six?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: No, as I guess any console should count. Maybe even
throw a Steam Machine in there. I guess that would count.
But maybe I'm kind of just wondering about the Xbox
and PlayStation going into grand theft thought of six. But
you answer this how you want to, We'll get the results.
Talk about it on tomorrow's show. Here on Giant Bombs,
speaking a giant bomb. In a few minutes, Jan Monsters
of the Deep, I'm gonna be going into the VR.
I'm gonna be going inside of my PS four and
swimming around for those fishing fantasy monsters in the virtual
reality Greb.
Speaker 2: I might have to go produce some things I can handle.
This okay, all right, if you're sure you know, if
you need a life rope, I don't know nautical terms.
I can jump in and try and save you, but
who knows.
Speaker 1: Now, we'll handle it over here. I'll get it going
here soon everybody.
Speaker 3: And then we have voicemail dump Truck with Abby Russell today.
Speaker 2: Woo Abby. Abby is the best. She's my favorite person.
Also made to say that I know she did it.
Uh grub. Later today, you, me and Chuck are going
to be joining our dear friend Bailey Myers and a
Good Time Society for Role for Pride, a charity stream
for the trans Wellness Center that will be popping off
at two pm Pacific time. I think we're just gonna
be playing jackbox with Bailey. So fun times, great cause
at the end of Pride month and earth dang.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, looking forward to that as well. Busy day,
let's hang out, everybody, so stick around.
Speaker 3: Let's see here.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we're gonna be doing some upf web fishing things
like that, So more fun stuff on the site tomorrow
as well. Oh, Umagari. I should be able to finish
Umagari tomorrow. I'm well, I'm at the very end of
that game, so well, we will have completed a fishing
game on Fishing Week.
Speaker 3: That gave us scary it's scary, Jan, what the It's
scary and weird and there was a man in a
washing machine and it was But.
Speaker 2: I half expect by the time you finish this game,
a key truck will wind up in the ocean.
Speaker 1: I think that's there's a high likelihood that that's the case,
because like those k trucks are just in those asset
stores and stuff like that, And it definitely feels like
one of those games like parentheses positive, Like, I've really
been enjoying my time in that game, and it's been
fun hanging out with chat. So tune in tomorrow nine
am Easter and everybody should be able to finish that game.
It's a spirit weird Japanese spear fishing game that is
actually very scary. All right, Jan, thank you so much
for hanging out with me today and talking about video games.
Speaker 3: Man, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: It's the only way to start a Thursday grip.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for watching and listening. You are the
best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
Take care of yourself and goodbye,