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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty seven seems a long way into the future

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but it's going to come around quicker than

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<v Speaker 1>you think. For those of us who don't live in

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<v Speaker 1>Europe or who like to do a forward travel planning,

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<v Speaker 1>the best time to start planning your trip to Italy

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<v Speaker 1>next year starts right now. So on today's episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>are getting organized for travels in Italy in twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Saatuti and Benvenuti to one Told Italy the travel podcast

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<v Speaker 2>to where you go to the towns and villages, mountains

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<v Speaker 2>and lakes, hills and coastlines of Belli, Italia. It's week

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<v Speaker 2>your host Katie Clark takes you on a journey in

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<v Speaker 2>a search of magical landscapes, history, culture, wine, gelato, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course a whole lot of pasta. If you're dreaming

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<v Speaker 2>of Italy and planning future adventures there, you've come to

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<v Speaker 2>the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaoaduti and ven Venuti, Welcome back to the Untold Italy

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<v Speaker 1>Travel Podcast. I'm your host, Katie Clark, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>the show for people who want to travel Italy, be

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<v Speaker 1>on the checklist and get right to the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful country that we all love. Italy is so

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<v Speaker 1>much more than a list of the obvious highlights. It's

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<v Speaker 1>where you feel like you have escaped a whole another

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<v Speaker 1>world full of beauty, history, and culture. Plus there's a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy dose of chaos to keep things real. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>already know that, and that's likely why you're hear and

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<v Speaker 1>today I want to talk to you about something that

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<v Speaker 1>I get asked about a lot, and that's when to

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<v Speaker 1>start planning the trips and more importantly, where to start.

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<v Speaker 1>So if twenty twenty seven is your year for Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is for you. We are going to walk

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<v Speaker 1>through some important things to consider before you get deep

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<v Speaker 1>into the weeds of your travel planning for your trips

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<v Speaker 1>for next year, and just like every other country on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some quirks of traveling in Italy that are

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<v Speaker 1>worth knowing upfront, like the best times to travel to

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<v Speaker 1>certain places like the Amalfi Coast in Sicily, and where

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<v Speaker 1>and where to skip if you're not a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of crowds. I'm going to walk you through the initial

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<v Speaker 1>stages of planning on the podcast today and give you

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<v Speaker 1>some things to get your trip organization underway. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in dream mode, then in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We will also be running a free online event on

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<v Speaker 1>Zoom where we will dive deeper into planning your trip

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<v Speaker 1>in more detail. I will tell you more about that

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of this episode. So to get it started,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a think about what kind of trip you

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<v Speaker 1>are taking. For most of us, the way that we

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<v Speaker 1>travel has evolved over many years. What works for me

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<v Speaker 1>in my twenties, which was interrailing around Europe on a

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<v Speaker 1>budget of about twenty dollars a day, with very little sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to maximize stops and cities, and more funds allocated

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<v Speaker 1>to wine and nightlife activities than cultural pursuits. And it

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<v Speaker 1>looks nothing like the way that I travel today, And

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness for that, because it was exhausting. Those were

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<v Speaker 1>really really fun times. But as life continues, kids come along,

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<v Speaker 1>your life changes, and your tastes become, let's just say,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more refined. The style of travel that you

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<v Speaker 1>might choose changes too, and it might not. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that's a beautiful thing, actually, because as we

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<v Speaker 1>grow and evolve, our travel style changes and we start

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<v Speaker 1>to see places and people through a completely different lens.

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<v Speaker 1>On this podcast, we are not here to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how you should travel, because that is such a personal

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<v Speaker 1>thing based on your preferences, your budget, and your life stage. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>we are here to share options that you might not

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<v Speaker 1>know about and which could make all the difference to

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<v Speaker 1>the experience that you want to have in Italy. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I first started traveling, I was very much

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<v Speaker 1>about seeing as much as I could, and I'd map

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<v Speaker 1>out itineries more in terms of logistics and places rather

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<v Speaker 1>than the feeling or experience that I wanted to have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think regardless of how you travel, it really

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<v Speaker 1>is important to step back before you do anything and

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<v Speaker 1>think about that type of experience that you want in

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<v Speaker 1>the time that you have available before you even book

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, because doing that will be your north star

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<v Speaker 1>as you make choices along the way. So here's an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>How much time do you have? Most of our American

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<v Speaker 1>and Canadian listeners have a limited amount of vacation time

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<v Speaker 1>and usually plan trips of around two weeks. Our British,

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<v Speaker 1>Irasian European friends can pop over for a weekend trip

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, we are very jealous of you and don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why you don't do it more often. And for

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<v Speaker 1>my fellow Aussie's Kiwis and anyone in Asia, Africa or

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<v Speaker 1>South America which we do have listeners from which is

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<v Speaker 1>quite amazing. These trips are usually part of an extended vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes three to four weeks, which in reality is the

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<v Speaker 1>minimum if you're going to be sitting on a plane

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty four hours there and back. So you need

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<v Speaker 1>to understand how much time you have available. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to how do you want to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to slow a trip where you explore

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<v Speaker 1>the back roads, stay in small towns and villages and

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<v Speaker 1>go deep into local culture. Or do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>relax by the sea and soak it all up Lido

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<v Speaker 1>by day, Passagata by night and maybe waking up to

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<v Speaker 1>the sunrise over the Terrannian Sea, or maybe all about

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<v Speaker 1>the culture and want a deeply educational experience. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>you travel for food, and I have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>is a great theme for your Italy trip. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>also the classic first trip that covers the major cities.

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<v Speaker 1>But again this can be approached in many different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. Most people skip. They go straight to

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<v Speaker 1>where they're going to go. So they might be thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go to Rome and Florence and Tuscany

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<v Speaker 1>or Sicily, the Italian Lakes or the Amalfi Coast before

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<v Speaker 1>they have answered a more important question, and it's how

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<v Speaker 1>do they actually want to travel? Because there is a

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<v Speaker 1>real difference between a trip that's built around slowing down

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<v Speaker 1>in one region and really getting under the skin of

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<v Speaker 1>that place and a trip that covers more ground and

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<v Speaker 1>you move a little fast and you hit the moments

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<v Speaker 1>that matter most before you go home, and neither is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really want to emphasize that you can do

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<v Speaker 1>whichever way you want to travel, and in fact, you

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<v Speaker 1>can obviously combine both styles of travel, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>mean different things for your planning. So let's start here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got a few questions that you should ask

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<v Speaker 1>yourself before you start on your planning journey. And the

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<v Speaker 1>first one is are you a slow traveler or a

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<v Speaker 1>see moore traveler? If you love the idea of having

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<v Speaker 1>a regular cafe bar, getting to know the neighborhood, and

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<v Speaker 1>not looking at your map every ten minutes, you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>a slow traveler. You will want fewer bases and more

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<v Speaker 1>time in each one. If the idea of sitting still

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<v Speaker 1>for four days sounds like a waste of time. That

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<v Speaker 1>is useful information too, And look, everyone is different. I

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<v Speaker 1>have changed a lot over the years, and I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be a not sit still person, but these days

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind a little sitting around soaking it all

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<v Speaker 1>up action. So everyone is different and there's no reason

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<v Speaker 1>for you to adjust your travel style based on what

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else thinks. The next question is are you considering

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't just a practical question, it really will

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<v Speaker 1>shape the trip that you're going to create when you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Italy. Driving will open up the countryside and

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<v Speaker 1>smaller towns and places that have no train station, and

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<v Speaker 1>even in Tuscany, getting around by train is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit problematic if you want to really go deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the countryside unless you have a lot of time, which

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<v Speaker 1>most people don't. But it also means that someone in

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<v Speaker 1>your group cannot drink at dinner or if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a winery, and parking in Italian cities

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<v Speaker 1>and towns is really not that fun unless you treat

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<v Speaker 1>it like a competitive sport like my husband does. You

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<v Speaker 1>can also try driving service if you like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of driving, but this is not a budget option. You're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at around eight hundred euros per day and that

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<v Speaker 1>is before any adjustments for fuel price increases that are

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be unless something changes radically with the situation

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East. The train is fantastic between major cities.

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<v Speaker 1>It's comfortable and fast and I absolutely love it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it slots you into a certain kind of itinery based

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<v Speaker 1>around cities. So I haven't think about this before you

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<v Speaker 1>start really planning because it does change things a bit downstream.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also remember you can mix and match this

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<v Speaker 1>some train and some driving. Last year we did train

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<v Speaker 1>travel between Rome and Bologna and then up to Bolzano

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<v Speaker 1>where we rented a car to explore south to roll

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<v Speaker 1>and we do this quite a lot, so mixing and

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<v Speaker 1>matching different transportation styles. But remember we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experience driving in Italy and we enjoy it more

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<v Speaker 1>my husband does, and so that's something that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>think twice about. But if you're new to driving initially,

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage you to go and have a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a research into what's actually required because it might

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a maybe more cost effective option, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are toll and fuel charges and all sorts of other

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<v Speaker 1>complications around driving in Italy that you should have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a think about before you one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent to side. Another time, we had a solid base

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<v Speaker 1>for a week in southern Italy and then ditched the

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<v Speaker 1>car to go to Naples, Rome and Florence. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's different ways you can travel, and I think making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you are aware of the different options is

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<v Speaker 1>how you're going to get around the next question is

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<v Speaker 1>who are you traveling with. So a solo trip, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple's trip, a mother daughter trip, a group of friends

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<v Speaker 1>and they this is all different trips, and everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>different ways of traveling. Again, and people have different needs

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<v Speaker 1>and requests. Let's just say not to mention different travel styles.

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<v Speaker 1>I once did a trip through France and Spain with

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<v Speaker 1>some friends that were let's just say they went very

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<v Speaker 1>adventurous eaters, and we ended up going for a Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>takeaway in San Sebastian. If you're a foodie you will

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<v Speaker 1>understand how this is one of my biggest travel regrets.

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<v Speaker 1>I really should have gone off on my own that

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<v Speaker 1>night and gone to explore some of the most amazing

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<v Speaker 1>cuisine that comes out of that town. Anyway, I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>So you live and you learn, and I just need

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<v Speaker 1>to go back with my food loving family. The point

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<v Speaker 1>is the trip that works brilliantly for two people who

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<v Speaker 1>agree on everything looks quite different from the one that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to make for people happy. So have a think

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<v Speaker 1>talking to everyone about what their expectations are that the

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<v Speaker 1>trip art as well. The next question is what is

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<v Speaker 1>also how you will allocate your budget. So are you

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<v Speaker 1>happy to spend more to stay somewhere like spectacular with

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere with beautiful sea views and that has amazing food

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<v Speaker 1>and then cut back on activities, or do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do more seymour as somewhere comfortable but not so special.

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<v Speaker 1>And again that's all personal preference. Nothing is wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>them here on Untold Italy because their goal is to

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<v Speaker 1>And this matters more than most people realize. Things change

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<v Speaker 1>some places outside the main tourist areas. So now let

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<v Speaker 1>Spring and by this I mean after Easter, so April

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<v Speaker 1>just like there in Sicily, the whole country is waking

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<v Speaker 1>daylight saving time change in March. It's warm, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>the summer crowds anyway, So the crowds will be in

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually quite fun. Back in a flash right after

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<v Speaker 1>these messages if you've been dreaming of experiencing Italy the

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<v Speaker 1>way it's meant to be lived, slow, unhurried and with

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<v Speaker 1>Early summer so I'll kind of call that June is

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<v Speaker 1>of the month, it's just really lovely, and you will

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be honest with you, it is really hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's when Italians and Europeans go on holiday themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>which means in the big cities, some restaurants and shops

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<v Speaker 1>So at this time, the mountains, the coast and the

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<v Speaker 1>countryside are really wonderful, but they're heaving with people trying

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<v Speaker 1>The cities are busy, but this is the time really

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<v Speaker 1>the Italians and Europeans that go to those countryside mountain

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't like this type of weather. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>of summer and spring and autumn. But really the smallest

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<v Speaker 1>the full and just wandering around. There's chestnuts, very sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>means you definitely won't be swimming, but you will enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>where the all the Italians venturing back into their historic

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<v Speaker 1>in a completely different light. Some things do close, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think winter in Italy is really underrated.

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<v Speaker 1>is a fantastic atmosphere, but if you were hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's a really interesting time Christmas and New

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<v Speaker 1>venice without the crowds going winter, or very early in spring,

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<v Speaker 1>but avoid the carnavade. We end up going to deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into destinations on this episode. We'll do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that on our upcoming online planning event that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you all the details about at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the show. But I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>say a few things about where to go in Italy

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it is a question people jump to

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<v Speaker 1>first and it could really come later in the planning

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<v Speaker 1>unless there's something very specific drawing you to a place,

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<v Speaker 1>like your heritage, passion for snow sports or fast cars

431
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<v Speaker 1>or truffles, or a particular food festival. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>once you know how you want to travel and when

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<v Speaker 1>you're going, the waar usually becomes clearer and you might

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<v Speaker 1>need to make some compromises. But here's the thing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no wrong decisions in Italy. Everything will be wonderful wherever

436
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<v Speaker 1>you go. If you're a slow traveler going in October,

437
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<v Speaker 1>you probably don't want to pack in six cities from

438
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<v Speaker 1>Pullia to Piedmont in six weeks, despite the many temptations.

439
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<v Speaker 1>If your beach lover on a budget, Positano in July

440
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<v Speaker 1>might need to be reconsidered. And if you've been to

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<v Speaker 1>Rome and Florence before, this might be the trip where

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<v Speaker 1>you head into the countryside for part of your trip

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<v Speaker 1>and head back to the places that you love for

444
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<v Speaker 1>the rest. So there's a lot of possibilities. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, there's no wrong choices in Italy. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it is hard to make those choices on your own

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<v Speaker 1>without some inside of information, and of course that's what

448
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<v Speaker 1>we're here for. We want to help you. I suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that you do to get started at this stage is

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<v Speaker 1>to start a list right down the places that are

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<v Speaker 1>calling to you, the ones you've heard about on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones of friends mentioned, the ones you keep seeing

453
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<v Speaker 1>and thinking, oh, one day I'll go put them all

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<v Speaker 1>down without editing yourself. We're not building an itinery. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gathering ideas which you can build on later and the

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<v Speaker 1>next up is a very important question, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>who is doing the planning and how much planning do

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<v Speaker 1>they actually want to do. Some people love planning travel,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure many of our listeners fall into this

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<v Speaker 1>category most of the time, but it's not always everyone's

461
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<v Speaker 1>favorite task, especially when there's a big group involved. Sometimes

462
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<v Speaker 1>life gets in the way and you don't have time

463
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<v Speaker 1>to go into the weeds of the many details, or

464
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<v Speaker 1>you want some deep local knowledge. In terms of planning trips,

465
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<v Speaker 1>there are so many different options these days when it

466
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<v Speaker 1>comes to travel, and you don't need to stick to

467
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<v Speaker 1>just one either. I really like taking a mix and

468
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<v Speaker 1>match approach to our family travels and it's working so

469
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<v Speaker 1>well for us, not just in Italy, but also we

470
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<v Speaker 1>like to travel a lot, and later on this year

471
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<v Speaker 1>we're going to Japan and other places, so we will

472
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<v Speaker 1>travel independently for some of our trips, usually big cities,

473
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<v Speaker 1>and then we use like local trip planning services and

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<v Speaker 1>tour options for some of the more unique places outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the big cities and tourist areas, so that we

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<v Speaker 1>get access to local information and ideas that don't surface

477
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<v Speaker 1>in any research or they don't surface easily. So the

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<v Speaker 1>main options for travel. This is very general, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just to give you an idea of what's available,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think some people don't know kind of what's available.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will deep dive into this more on our

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<v Speaker 1>webinar because I think it's really important that there's not

483
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<v Speaker 1>just one source of information. There's a lot of different sources,

484
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<v Speaker 1>and the trick is to find the people and the

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<v Speaker 1>services that speak to you and fitting with your travel style.

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<v Speaker 1>So the main options are you've got fully independent travel

487
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<v Speaker 1>where you research and organize everything yourself, and you know,

488
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<v Speaker 1>the Internet's made that really easy for us well in

489
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<v Speaker 1>some ways. Or you might have a friend or family

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<v Speaker 1>member who would do it for you. So if that's

491
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<v Speaker 1>a case, make sure to be very grateful to those people,

492
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<v Speaker 1>because that's a huge job and it usually involves a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of internet time and online research and sitting on forums.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Unless you're the type of person who is able to

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<v Speaker 1>book a two week break in late October and simply

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<v Speaker 1>wing it. I think winging it. I wish we could

497
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<v Speaker 1>still do it, but it's very difficult unless you've got

498
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<v Speaker 1>a very open calendar and heaps of time on your hands.

499
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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to rant about this too much again,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you want to go outside major tourist areas

501
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<v Speaker 1>anywhere in the world, much of the online information is woeful,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in countries like Italy where English is not their

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<v Speaker 1>first language. So just keep that in mind when you're

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<v Speaker 1>online searching. And I speak about this a lot, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's really true. You cannot find a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're prepared to just wing it or you know

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<v Speaker 1>someone local. Now, the other option is assistant travel, so

508
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<v Speaker 1>that means working with a trip planner or a travel

509
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<v Speaker 1>agent for all of some of your trip. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you go down this path, please please make sure whoever

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<v Speaker 1>you work with knows Italy very well, or you work

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<v Speaker 1>with a travel agent that can help you with flights,

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<v Speaker 1>and then choose another option for your on the ground assistance.

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<v Speaker 1>Italy is a very big country and each of its

515
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<v Speaker 1>twenty regions are hyper local and unique with their own challenges.

516
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<v Speaker 1>So general travel agents may be able to assist with

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<v Speaker 1>say a great driving service in Rome, but they may

518
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<v Speaker 1>not have the local contacts on the ground in Sicily

519
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<v Speaker 1>or Piedmont or Pulia if that's where you are going. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as you probably know, we have a team of trip

521
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<v Speaker 1>planners that are absolutely obsessed with Italy and just love

522
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<v Speaker 1>helping all of our clients plan their amazing trips and

523
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<v Speaker 1>what they do best. You share options that you may

524
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<v Speaker 1>not have thought of and contacts that can really enhance

525
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<v Speaker 1>your trip. Italy is our passion and we do not

526
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<v Speaker 1>deviate from that, preferring to go really deep into Italian

527
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<v Speaker 1>places and experiences rather than trying to do say, all

528
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<v Speaker 1>of Europe. If you are traveling to Europe and you

529
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<v Speaker 1>are thinking of going to Spain, for example, we also

530
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<v Speaker 1>work with people that offer a similar service and can

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<v Speaker 1>direct you to those people also. Okay, the last main

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<v Speaker 1>option is guided multi day tour experiences and these come

533
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<v Speaker 1>in many different shapes and sizes and for different budgets.

534
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<v Speaker 1>So at one end you can do budget sightseeing tours

535
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<v Speaker 1>that are really more of a logistics enabler. And last

536
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<v Speaker 1>week we heard from my friend Monica whose companies do

537
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<v Speaker 1>walking and cycling tours. And there are lots of different

538
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<v Speaker 1>options like this for people that have got a specific

539
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<v Speaker 1>sort of interest in mind. So one of our favorite

540
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<v Speaker 1>tour guests, Carolyn, goes on a pilates retreat every year

541
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<v Speaker 1>in Italy and she loves it and so a lot

542
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<v Speaker 1>of different specialty tour options, and of course our Untold

543
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<v Speaker 1>Italy Tours are a fully hosted group option focused on

544
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<v Speaker 1>a holistic experience around culture, food and wine and exploring

545
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 1>regional Italy where we take care of everything so you

546
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<v Speaker 1>can just simply enjoy Italy. So there are hundreds, if

547
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<v Speaker 1>not thousands, of tour companies operating in Italy, and I'd

548
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<v Speaker 1>really encourage you to look for those that specialize in

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<v Speaker 1>Italy and support local communities and rather than a generalist

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<v Speaker 1>tour company, because when you go to Italy, you want

551
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<v Speaker 1>to have that Italian experience and the best way to

552
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<v Speaker 1>do that is through the locals. So as you can see,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a broad range of trip planning options to

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<v Speaker 1>choose from depending on your preferences and ideas. There's no

555
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<v Speaker 1>right or wrong answer, just what works well for you,

556
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<v Speaker 1>and often it's a mixed match of several different methods.

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<v Speaker 1>If you join our twenty twenty seven trip planning event

558
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<v Speaker 1>happening on Zoom later this month, I'll go a bit

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<v Speaker 1>deeper into what to look for from online resources a

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<v Speaker 1>tour company and or a trip planning service so you

561
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<v Speaker 1>can make an informed decision. I'm going to be upfront

562
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<v Speaker 1>and let you know I am not going to apologize

563
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<v Speaker 1>showcasing what we do and untold Italy in this context,

564
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<v Speaker 1>because we do this very very well, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>proud of our entire team and their passion and dedication

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<v Speaker 1>to supporting local businesses in Italy. But of course we

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<v Speaker 1>know that we're not for everyone, and our goal is

568
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<v Speaker 1>to help our listeners have an amazing time in Italy

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<v Speaker 1>and navigate through the very many choices that you have

570
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<v Speaker 1>to plan your trip. So, as we come to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this episode, what do you do right now

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<v Speaker 1>this week if you want to start building towards a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven Italy trip. So I've got two, maybe

574
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<v Speaker 1>three things that you can do. So the first thing

575
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<v Speaker 1>is to really start thinking about your travel style. Go

576
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<v Speaker 1>back to the questions that I asked earlier in the episode,

577
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<v Speaker 1>and really ask yourself, how do you want to feel

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<v Speaker 1>on this trip, What experiences do you want to have,

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you going with that you're driving or taking

580
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<v Speaker 1>the train, what does the right pace look like? And

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<v Speaker 1>when do you think you will go? And who is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do the planning. You don't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>all the answers, but start having the conversation and if

584
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<v Speaker 1>you're traveling solo, just thinking about it with yourself or

585
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<v Speaker 1>with your travel partner and whoever's coming with you. The

586
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<v Speaker 1>second thing you can do is start looking at flights,

587
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<v Speaker 1>and this is where like travel agents can be really helpful,

588
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<v Speaker 1>but also and just start looking get a sense of

589
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<v Speaker 1>what prices look like from your city to the Italian

590
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<v Speaker 1>airports that you know might make sense to you most

591
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<v Speaker 1>of the time, the flights going to Rome and Milan,

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<v Speaker 1>so Rome's really handy for southern Italy, Milan obviously for

593
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<v Speaker 1>northern Italy. And you can set up price alerts if

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<v Speaker 1>you use Google Flights or Skyscanner or something like that.

595
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<v Speaker 1>So you're just starting to get an idea of what

596
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<v Speaker 1>things are going to cost, and you're not committing to anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can just see what the prices are and

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<v Speaker 1>what the sort of schedules are coming up as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And the good thing about that is if you've been

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it hard things, when a really great fear comes up,

601
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<v Speaker 1>you can recognize it. And the last thing is if

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<v Speaker 1>you are thinking about joining a group tour, it's a

603
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<v Speaker 1>really good idea to start your research now. Our twenty

604
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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven dates for our untold Itsaly tours are available

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<v Speaker 1>on our website and ready to book right now, and

606
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<v Speaker 1>we also have some new tours for twenty twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>that we will announce soon as some of our most

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<v Speaker 1>popular tools are already half full, so if you want

609
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 1>to stay updated on that, you can sign up for

610
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<v Speaker 1>our Tours newsletter where that info is released first. I

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<v Speaker 1>know many other tour companies have their twenty twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>tours available at least to view now also, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth taking a look if you think you might be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in that style of travel, because there's usually early

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<v Speaker 1>bird rates, and I would say for twenty twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>as we don't know how this Middle Eastern crisis is

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<v Speaker 1>playing out and we don't know the impact on prices,

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<v Speaker 1>but usually people will honor the clients that they people

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<v Speaker 1>have signed up for, so unless there's something materially very bad,

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<v Speaker 1>have a look at those tours if you're interested now

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<v Speaker 1>and see what's available, and then you can start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>more about how you might slop that into the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your travels. So that's it for now. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to do too much. We're only in May twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, but with twenty twenty seven just around the corner,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you take some little steps to go forward,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're kind of in the dreaming phase, then

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<v Speaker 1>some of the big decisions that you need to make

629
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<v Speaker 1>later will be much easier now if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go deeper on all of this, the planning phases, where

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<v Speaker 1>to go, what to prioritize, timeline to book things, vendors

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<v Speaker 1>you can trust, and how to make sure twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven is the Italy trip that you have been imagining.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running a free online event on May twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hour twenty fifth, depending on what time zone you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would love you to join me. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a proper deep dive together with some

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to ask questions and go through some of the

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<v Speaker 1>key planning steps that you can expect to go through

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<v Speaker 1>when you're planning your trip to Italy. It will be recorded,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you can't make this live session, you will

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<v Speaker 1>still be able to watch it at your leisure. All

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<v Speaker 1>the details to sign up for this session and the

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<v Speaker 1>replay are in the show notes at untold itly dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Forward slash three two four for episode number three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty four, and you'll also find the links there

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the episodes and resources that I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>today that will help you start building your picture of Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty seven, Grazi miled, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning into Untold Italy today. If this episode was useful,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love it if you shared it with someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is also dreaming about Italy and has a trip

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. Next week we are going back to beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Milano to explore with one of my friends who's a

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<v Speaker 1>local there. But until then, it's chow for now. The

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<v Speaker 1>Untold Italy podcast is an independent production podcast editing, audio

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<v Speaker 1>production and website development by Mark Hatter, Production assistance and

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<v Speaker 1>content writing by the are they kJ Clark? Yes, there

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<v Speaker 1>are two of us. For more information about Untold Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>please visit Untold Italy dot com
