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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI A

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is KFI Bill Handle here on a Thursday morning,

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<v Speaker 2>August one. Or gold medals that are being won by Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>which they do.

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<v Speaker 1>The metal count.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so important, right, we have to know how many

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<v Speaker 2>gold medals we win and how many medals in general.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not at the top of the heap with gold,

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<v Speaker 2>but we are at the top of the heap with medals,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that our athletes are more second rate than not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a horrible thing to say, and that's not true,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's really important, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right? I want to move God. That was not

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<v Speaker 1>well said or well described at all. Good for you, Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Now I want to talk about something that

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<v Speaker 2>you probably didn't even know existed, and that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when they talk about social workers going out so the

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<v Speaker 2>police don't have to deal with non violent issues, right,

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<v Speaker 2>someone is out there screaming or mentally ill. You know

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<v Speaker 2>the mantra at this point, get social workers out there,

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<v Speaker 2>don't call the police, or have the social workers with

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<v Speaker 2>the police. Well, there's also something called or a group

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<v Speaker 2>called interventionists.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Interventionists are paid by the city. They're city employees and

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<v Speaker 2>they're sort of social workers slash mediators slash life coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>And what they do is deal with gang members. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, most of them are former gang members, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's to bring down the crime, lower the temperature among

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<v Speaker 2>gang members. And if you look at what the city

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<v Speaker 2>is saying, they're delivering results steep crime reduction over the

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<v Speaker 2>past year in the twenty three gang reduction zones, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where intervention is are active. They actually go

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<v Speaker 2>into those areas. I'll explain that in a minute. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, the crime rate is actually dropping. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to hear the politics that it's out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's actually going down.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look statistically, unless you happen to be the

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<v Speaker 2>victim of a burglary or someone shoves a gun in

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<v Speaker 2>your head, then the crime is not going down. Particularly

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<v Speaker 2>And here is the problem. They get paid forty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>bucks a year. Last summer, actually the minimum salary was raised,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to have special training to sixty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a year, which is still at least it's not

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<v Speaker 2>poverty level, which forty thousand dollars a year is and

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<v Speaker 2>so the city is being really talks to and lobbying for.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, this is working. Help us out.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them, who was interviewed for an LA Tames article, said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just flat out wrong. I make a dollar more

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<v Speaker 2>than a person who work at McDonald's, two dollars less

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<v Speaker 2>than a person who works at in and Out. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is the problem. Is that we just don't pay

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<v Speaker 2>our teachers enough. We certainly don't pay our public service

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<v Speaker 2>workers enough. But man, what this is on a whole

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<v Speaker 2>different level, because this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I guess you know, front of the line workers.

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<v Speaker 1>This is to bring down gun violence. People die.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gang banger violence they want to bring down.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is why it's no big deal. How many

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<v Speaker 2>people care if gang bangers kill each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care as far as I'm concerned. Not your

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<v Speaker 1>socks off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the innocent people get caught in crossfire that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>upset about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Are not connected they get harmed. It's what they do

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<v Speaker 2>to neighborhoods. Although the argument is where else does the

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<v Speaker 2>kid go when you have no opportunity? And the heroes

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<v Speaker 2>are the pimps and the drug dealers. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>many kids coming out of the inner.

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<v Speaker 1>City who end up being CEOs of major corporations. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's what interventionists do.

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<v Speaker 2>They go in and interestingly enough, it's not just calming

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<v Speaker 2>down gang members. It's tamping down rumors because in that

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<v Speaker 2>world there are so many rumors and we just a

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<v Speaker 2>conflagration can be ignited with one rumor a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, or.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that story about the kid who was deaf

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<v Speaker 2>and was making trying to talk in sign language in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a group of gang bangers and was killed

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<v Speaker 2>because they thought that he was throwing gang signs. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what interventionists do. They calm all of that down. And

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<v Speaker 2>they also connect those that want with social services because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know. At the height of pandemic, they frontline

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare workers in their neighborhoods, passing out masks, educating people

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<v Speaker 2>about the coronavirus. And here's what's going on. The job

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<v Speaker 2>is getting tougher and tough tougher. One thing you may

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<v Speaker 2>not think about, and I didn't think about this. When

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<v Speaker 2>we think of gangs, we think of this group of

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<v Speaker 2>people that hang out together, and they're gangs the way

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<v Speaker 2>we know them but did you know that gang membership

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<v Speaker 2>changes a ton. There's a lot of attrition, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>different people and the cops. Even though the cops on

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<v Speaker 2>these task forces sort of have an idea, interventionists are

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<v Speaker 2>in that community. They know exactly what's going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are there to well to say, hey, you misunderstood,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do some mediation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a pretty important job. And they ain't

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<v Speaker 1>getting any money.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the argument goes, how much money where does

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<v Speaker 2>the money go that a city has? And here is

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<v Speaker 2>the argument that I've always made when dealing with a

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<v Speaker 2>homeless Okay, homelessness is the number one problem in the city,

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<v Speaker 2>in the county, in the state, then that's certainly the

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<v Speaker 2>way that voters think about it. Gavin Newsom ran on homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Bass ran on homelessness. That was her platform when

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<v Speaker 2>she became mayor. Paul Caruso, her opponent, ran on homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his primary platform. Do you take money that

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<v Speaker 2>you would pay interventionists or give them a raise and

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<v Speaker 2>then move it over to the homeless problem. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of the interventionist program because let's say you're

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<v Speaker 2>spending thirty five million dollars or forty million dollars for

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<v Speaker 2>a program you can build, well eight houses or eight

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<v Speaker 2>units of shelter. Where does the money go? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is first responder stuff. And at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no money. There is no money never is you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You think with the taxes we pay, and here, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in California, the city of Los Angeles, I mean we're

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<v Speaker 2>probably the I would guess if you are in La

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<v Speaker 2>City of La or La County, you are probably in

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<v Speaker 2>the most taxed jurisdiction in the United States. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>never enough money to go around.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, today the rules change about bringing dogs in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>CDC just came.

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<v Speaker 2>Up with a bunch of new rules and effective to day.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're bringing in dogs today, certainly it was

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<v Speaker 2>easier yesterday. And this is aimed at preventing the spread

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<v Speaker 2>of rabies. And boy, this is a huge problem. The

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<v Speaker 2>spread of rabies, that's all what this is about. So

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<v Speaker 2>let me give you a stat about the spread of rabies.

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<v Speaker 2>The number of dogs entering this country that have rabies

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<v Speaker 2>have skyrocketed, and how many have there been Since twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>four four dogs that have rabs have entered the United States. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now the government gets to work the CDC.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, are these.

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<v Speaker 2>Requirements are so stringent that a bunch of airlines are

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<v Speaker 2>simply not allowing dogs to travel to the US with their.

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<v Speaker 1>Families at all?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean military families, diplomats, pet shippers, animal rescue organizations

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<v Speaker 2>are all up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell do we do here?

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<v Speaker 2>Is an effective Today? Dog owners who want to bring

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<v Speaker 2>their dogs in the United States have to complete a

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<v Speaker 2>new form. All dogs entering must be over six months old. No,

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<v Speaker 2>puppies have to be micro chipped and appear to be

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<v Speaker 2>healthy upon arrival. What the hell does that mean? Who

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<v Speaker 2>decides if a dog looks healthy or not. Also, requirements

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<v Speaker 2>are depending on where the dog was vaccinated and if

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<v Speaker 2>the dog has been in one of more than one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred countries identified as high risks for rabies. One hundred countries,

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<v Speaker 2>and the dog might have to pass a blood test

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<v Speaker 2>or be forced quarantined for twenty eight days in a

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<v Speaker 2>CDC registered facility, all at the owner's expense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the CDC is saying this aligns with the World

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<v Speaker 2>Organization for Animal Health standards for international movement of dogs

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<v Speaker 2>from countries with a high risk of dog rabies. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>four Dogs Society since twenty fifteen, and they're saying, we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen the CDC, We've seen some radius and challenges, international

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<v Speaker 2>dog importers, fraudulent documentations, dogs housed in unsafe conditions, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are only six ports now where a dog can

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<v Speaker 2>enter the United States where there's an animal care facility.

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<v Speaker 2>In the event it has to be it has to

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<v Speaker 2>be quarantined. Yep, the airline will be required to create

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<v Speaker 2>an airway an airway bill for each dog transported. Usually

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<v Speaker 2>that was only required for dogs in the cargo hold,

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<v Speaker 2>but not for dogs that you were taking, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>in the cabin in that little container a little dog

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<v Speaker 2>create you would put him in.

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<v Speaker 1>Rabi's was completely eliminated in the United States in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Done Raby's done. And I mean is Raby still around?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You can go to Appalachia and you can go to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, go to a restaurant and order up some

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<v Speaker 2>squirrel and you can get it with or without rabies.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go to Hunan and China, Kentucky Fried Bat

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<v Speaker 2>and you could order bats with rabies.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an issue, but eliminated in the United.

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<v Speaker 2>States in two thousand and seven, and the influx has

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<v Speaker 2>been astronomical for cases since twenty fifteen. And good luck

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<v Speaker 2>now bringing in a dog from overseas. All right, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how what it can cost three thousand dollars even

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<v Speaker 2>with all the requirements. Now I didn't know this, And

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<v Speaker 2>you have military folks are overseas, and let's say they

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<v Speaker 2>get a dog. Service members can be reimbursed fro up

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<v Speaker 2>to two thousand dollars worth of expenses for moving a

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<v Speaker 2>dog internationally, which is kind of neat, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, you know, you test for rabies and you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's an automatic test and that's it, and you're done,

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<v Speaker 2>and you do it at the port, you do it

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<v Speaker 2>at where you take off entering the United States, it

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<v Speaker 2>could be a lot easier, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, so much for that. Dog lovers, look

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to you guys, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Jd Vance has criticized the Democrats, particularly Kamala Harris, as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the childless cat ladies who run the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't have kids, there's something inherently wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and he dug in that same twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one he criticized Democrats being led by childless figures, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course the memes, the outrage, sometimes the agreement, and

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<v Speaker 2>he dug it again and said that he believes democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>especially those who aren't parents, are anti family and anti child.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, is he completely out of his mind? Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, guys, really, are you really going

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<v Speaker 2>to go there? Well, it seems so, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wondering about the political moves that are being made between

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<v Speaker 2>former President Trump arguing that Kamala Harris really isn't black

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<v Speaker 2>or she just now pretends to be black or identifies

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<v Speaker 2>herself as black and didn't historically, which of course she did.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you got that one, and he's not taking

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<v Speaker 1>that back. And then you have JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance who said that the country was being led by

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<v Speaker 2>childless figures and the best the line, I like the

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<v Speaker 2>best childless cat ladies, by the way, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>also he was talking about Harris and included Pete Buddhagic

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't have kids, which he does now he and

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<v Speaker 2>his husband. He and his husband have adopted a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what's going on with that? I mean, is

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<v Speaker 1>that crazy? Enough? Let's go back into history for a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we can we do some a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>historical analysis here?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know for the first part.

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<v Speaker 2>Of our history in the United States, a third of

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<v Speaker 2>our first fifteen presidents, a third of them, including George Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>had no children, or at least biological children.

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<v Speaker 1>No kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that was actually considered a virtue. Having kids was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a detriment. And how is that possible? Where would

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<v Speaker 2>you think that would go? Where would you think that

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<v Speaker 2>someone running for president? And we're talking about early days

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<v Speaker 2>of the country, actually right through I would guess the

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen hundreds, it was a good thing not to

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<v Speaker 2>have children, starting with George Washington. And this has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with this twenty twenty one clip of jd Vance,

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<v Speaker 2>now the vice presidential nominee, and he's criticizing childless people,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he targets now he targets Kamala Harris as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the childless cat ladies who run the country.

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<v Speaker 2>He just keeps on doubling down. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what else he could say. I mean, he could try

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<v Speaker 2>to deflect. Oh, I didn't mean I'm in dog ladies

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<v Speaker 2>instead of cat ladies. I mean, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>you come back from that. But he keeps on doubling down.

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<v Speaker 2>In an interview he just did, he says that he

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<v Speaker 2>believes the Democrats, especially those who aren't parents, are anti

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<v Speaker 2>family an anti child.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, where do you go from there?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it almost like someone is writing statements to Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and advance to alienate as many people as possible. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say there's a lot of pushback on this one. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go into history a little bit, because historically it

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<v Speaker 2>was to your benefit running for president if you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have children.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A third of our first fifteen presidents, including George Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>had no biological children. Now, he had a stepchild from

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<v Speaker 2>his wife, Martha. When he married Martha, she had a daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, their daughter died at seventeen. She

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<v Speaker 2>was epileptic. And that was fifteen years before Washington became president.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you why it was such a virtue

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<v Speaker 2>because when Washington was elected president, there was talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the establishing a monarchy King Washington. A lot of talk

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<v Speaker 2>because we had just come out of a monarchy. And

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<v Speaker 2>even though we were very anti monarchy, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>good percentage of people that wanted our monarchy. An American monarchy,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank goodness, Washington shut that down. He was responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for saying no, no, no. He's the one that first

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<v Speaker 2>number one came up with, you call the president mister president,

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<v Speaker 2>not your excellency.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were throwing all sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of statements out there about your excellency, your highness, literally

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<v Speaker 2>that no one knew. And he's the one that says

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<v Speaker 2>it's mister president. To this day, of course, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we call the president. And here's why it was so important,

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<v Speaker 2>or it was important not to have kids in those

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<v Speaker 2>early days because of the establishment of a monarchy, then

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<v Speaker 2>its hereditary, it goes to children, and if there are

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<v Speaker 2>no kids, then that cuts that avenue off.

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<v Speaker 1>Kings are replaced by their sons.

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<v Speaker 2>Kings are replaced by their children, and if there are

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<v Speaker 2>no children, then that issue is put to rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter of fact, seventeen eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight, there was a newspaper article praising Washington as America's

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<v Speaker 2>first president, partly on the ground that he had no

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<v Speaker 2>son and we would not be running the risk of

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<v Speaker 2>exposing us to the danger of a hereditary successor. Even

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<v Speaker 2>Washington considered this point. There's a draft of his first

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<v Speaker 2>inaugural that he didn't put in there, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he.

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<v Speaker 2>Not had my blood transmitted or my name perpetuated. I

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<v Speaker 2>have no children for whom I could wish to make

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<v Speaker 2>a provision, no family to building greatness upon my country's ruins.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he said, you know it's a benefit. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, there was a letter that John Adams wrote to

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Jefferson worry that European powers is when John Adams

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<v Speaker 2>was Secretary of State, worry that European powers may want

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<v Speaker 2>to build alliances with the children of presidents. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to cozy up to president's kids, and therefore we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>So early on, no kids, no advantage. You're done and

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<v Speaker 1>so Hunter, was that the Hunter Biden clause or uh yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now keep in mind, here's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I agree with you being a president's kid

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<v Speaker 2>is a good thing, but not in terms of running

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<v Speaker 2>for president. That's the difference. I think the only people

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<v Speaker 2>will have been a couple. George George W. Bush being

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<v Speaker 1>Is that hereditary.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about a family dynasty, but it's not hereditary

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<v Speaker 2>in the same sense.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's automatic, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>You for example, Chelsea Clinton is not automatically the president

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<v Speaker 2>when Bill Clinton dies or Bill Clinton no longer is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very different concept. Being connected is the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the world. I mean, for God's sake, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if my dad were president of the United States, I

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<v Speaker 2>too would want to go to the gas company of

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine and say I'd like half a million dollars or

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<v Speaker 2>what do you know about the gas industry? I know

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<v Speaker 2>how to turn on my gas stove.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's worth.

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<v Speaker 2>Half a million dollars, thank you. So I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>there aren't advantages or disadvantages. But what I am saying

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<v Speaker 2>is that the history of no kids is actually good

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<v Speaker 2>for potential presidents and presidents. We just were fine with

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<v Speaker 2>that historically.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the other issue that people who are a

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<v Speaker 2>With vance what is no kids? Explain that one to me,

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<v Speaker 2>step kids are those kids? Adopted kids? Are those kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Buddhajic has an adopted kid? Does he not have kids?

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<v Speaker 2>How about kids that you're raising? How about nephews and

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<v Speaker 2>nieces that you're raising?

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<v Speaker 1>Are those kids?

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<v Speaker 2>When I was teaching law school, I know it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to believe. I taught seminars in third party reproductive law.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was when surrogacy and IVF was just starting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would ask the students, tell me what a

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<v Speaker 2>mom or dad is, Tell me what a parent is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would start putting up on the board step parent,

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<v Speaker 2>adopted parent, biological parent, intended parent, spermed downer, contractual parent.

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<v Speaker 1>Which exists in the world of surrogacy and third party.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I pointed to the class and I had

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<v Speaker 2>like seven different versions, and I said, so you tell

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<v Speaker 2>me who's mom and dad. Just go ahead, point it

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<v Speaker 2>out and you tell me who is mom and dad

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<v Speaker 2>in those seven configurations. And this is where I think jd.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance is not only off the mark.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, it's just dumb. It's just stupid. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for those of you that have no children,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming none of you have dogs because you all

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<v Speaker 2>have to have cats.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that automatic? No children equals cats? All right?

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