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Speaker 2: August one. Or gold medals that are being won by Americans,
Speaker 2: which they do.
Speaker 1: The metal count.
Speaker 2: That's so important, right, we have to know how many
Speaker 2: gold medals we win and how many medals in general.
Speaker 2: And we're not at the top of the heap with gold,
Speaker 2: but we are at the top of the heap with medals,
Speaker 2: which means that our athletes are more second rate than not.
Speaker 2: That's a horrible thing to say, and that's not true,
Speaker 2: but it's really important, isn't it.
Speaker 1: All Right? I want to move God. That was not
Speaker 1: well said or well described at all. Good for you, Bill.
Speaker 2: All right, Now I want to talk about something that
Speaker 2: you probably didn't even know existed, and that is, you know,
Speaker 2: when they talk about social workers going out so the
Speaker 2: police don't have to deal with non violent issues, right,
Speaker 2: someone is out there screaming or mentally ill. You know
Speaker 2: the mantra at this point, get social workers out there,
Speaker 2: don't call the police, or have the social workers with
Speaker 2: the police. Well, there's also something called or a group
Speaker 2: called interventionists.
Speaker 1: What the hell is that?
Speaker 2: Interventionists are paid by the city. They're city employees and
Speaker 2: they're sort of social workers slash mediators slash life coaches.
Speaker 2: And what they do is deal with gang members. By
Speaker 2: the way, most of them are former gang members, and
Speaker 2: it's to bring down the crime, lower the temperature among
Speaker 2: gang members. And if you look at what the city
Speaker 2: is saying, they're delivering results steep crime reduction over the
Speaker 2: past year in the twenty three gang reduction zones, and
Speaker 2: this is where intervention is are active. They actually go
Speaker 2: into those areas. I'll explain that in a minute. By
Speaker 2: the way, the crime rate is actually dropping. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're going to hear the politics that it's out of control.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's actually going down.
Speaker 2: If you look statistically, unless you happen to be the
Speaker 2: victim of a burglary or someone shoves a gun in
Speaker 2: your head, then the crime is not going down. Particularly
Speaker 2: And here is the problem. They get paid forty thousand
Speaker 2: bucks a year. Last summer, actually the minimum salary was raised,
Speaker 2: but you have to have special training to sixty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a year, which is still at least it's not
Speaker 2: poverty level, which forty thousand dollars a year is and
Speaker 2: so the city is being really talks to and lobbying for.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is working. Help us out.
Speaker 2: One of them, who was interviewed for an LA Tames article, said,
Speaker 2: it's just flat out wrong. I make a dollar more
Speaker 2: than a person who work at McDonald's, two dollars less
Speaker 2: than a person who works at in and Out. And
Speaker 2: that is the problem. Is that we just don't pay
Speaker 2: our teachers enough. We certainly don't pay our public service
Speaker 2: workers enough. But man, what this is on a whole
Speaker 2: different level, because this is.
Speaker 1: This is I guess you know, front of the line workers.
Speaker 1: This is to bring down gun violence. People die.
Speaker 2: This is gang banger violence they want to bring down.
Speaker 2: The problem is why it's no big deal. How many
Speaker 2: people care if gang bangers kill each other.
Speaker 1: I don't care as far as I'm concerned. Not your
Speaker 1: socks off.
Speaker 2: It's the innocent people get caught in crossfire that I'm
Speaker 2: upset about.
Speaker 1: It's the people who.
Speaker 2: Are not connected they get harmed. It's what they do
Speaker 2: to neighborhoods. Although the argument is where else does the
Speaker 2: kid go when you have no opportunity? And the heroes
Speaker 2: are the pimps and the drug dealers. They don't have
Speaker 2: many kids coming out of the inner.
Speaker 1: City who end up being CEOs of major corporations. And
Speaker 1: here's what interventionists do.
Speaker 2: They go in and interestingly enough, it's not just calming
Speaker 2: down gang members. It's tamping down rumors because in that
Speaker 2: world there are so many rumors and we just a
Speaker 2: conflagration can be ignited with one rumor a fight.
Speaker 1: Hey, or.
Speaker 2: How was that story about the kid who was deaf
Speaker 2: and was making trying to talk in sign language in
Speaker 2: front of a group of gang bangers and was killed
Speaker 2: because they thought that he was throwing gang signs. That's
Speaker 2: what interventionists do. They calm all of that down. And
Speaker 2: they also connect those that want with social services because
Speaker 2: they don't know. At the height of pandemic, they frontline
Speaker 2: healthcare workers in their neighborhoods, passing out masks, educating people
Speaker 2: about the coronavirus. And here's what's going on. The job
Speaker 2: is getting tougher and tough tougher. One thing you may
Speaker 2: not think about, and I didn't think about this. When
Speaker 2: we think of gangs, we think of this group of
Speaker 2: people that hang out together, and they're gangs the way
Speaker 2: we know them but did you know that gang membership
Speaker 2: changes a ton. There's a lot of attrition, and it's
Speaker 2: different people and the cops. Even though the cops on
Speaker 2: these task forces sort of have an idea, interventionists are
Speaker 2: in that community. They know exactly what's going on, and
Speaker 2: they are there to well to say, hey, you misunderstood,
Speaker 2: let's do some mediation.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a pretty important job. And they ain't
Speaker 1: getting any money.
Speaker 2: And then the argument goes, how much money where does
Speaker 2: the money go that a city has? And here is
Speaker 2: the argument that I've always made when dealing with a
Speaker 2: homeless Okay, homelessness is the number one problem in the city,
Speaker 2: in the county, in the state, then that's certainly the
Speaker 2: way that voters think about it. Gavin Newsom ran on homelessness.
Speaker 2: Karen Bass ran on homelessness. That was her platform when
Speaker 2: she became mayor. Paul Caruso, her opponent, ran on homelessness.
Speaker 2: That was his primary platform. Do you take money that
Speaker 2: you would pay interventionists or give them a raise and
Speaker 2: then move it over to the homeless problem. Do you
Speaker 2: get rid of the interventionist program because let's say you're
Speaker 2: spending thirty five million dollars or forty million dollars for
Speaker 2: a program you can build, well eight houses or eight
Speaker 2: units of shelter. Where does the money go? I mean,
Speaker 2: this is first responder stuff. And at the same time,
Speaker 2: there's no money. There is no money never is you know.
Speaker 2: You think with the taxes we pay, and here, particularly
Speaker 2: in California, the city of Los Angeles, I mean we're
Speaker 2: probably the I would guess if you are in La
Speaker 2: City of La or La County, you are probably in
Speaker 2: the most taxed jurisdiction in the United States. And there's
Speaker 2: never enough money to go around.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 2: Okay, today the rules change about bringing dogs in the
Speaker 2: United States.
Speaker 1: CDC just came.
Speaker 2: Up with a bunch of new rules and effective to day.
Speaker 2: So if you're bringing in dogs today, certainly it was
Speaker 2: easier yesterday. And this is aimed at preventing the spread
Speaker 2: of rabies. And boy, this is a huge problem. The
Speaker 2: spread of rabies, that's all what this is about. So
Speaker 2: let me give you a stat about the spread of rabies.
Speaker 2: The number of dogs entering this country that have rabies
Speaker 2: have skyrocketed, and how many have there been Since twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: four four dogs that have rabs have entered the United States. Okay,
Speaker 2: now the government gets to work the CDC.
Speaker 1: By the way, are these.
Speaker 2: Requirements are so stringent that a bunch of airlines are
Speaker 2: simply not allowing dogs to travel to the US with their.
Speaker 1: Families at all?
Speaker 2: I mean military families, diplomats, pet shippers, animal rescue organizations
Speaker 2: are all up in the air.
Speaker 1: What the hell do we do here?
Speaker 2: Is an effective Today? Dog owners who want to bring
Speaker 2: their dogs in the United States have to complete a
Speaker 2: new form. All dogs entering must be over six months old. No,
Speaker 2: puppies have to be micro chipped and appear to be
Speaker 2: healthy upon arrival. What the hell does that mean? Who
Speaker 2: decides if a dog looks healthy or not. Also, requirements
Speaker 2: are depending on where the dog was vaccinated and if
Speaker 2: the dog has been in one of more than one
Speaker 2: hundred countries identified as high risks for rabies. One hundred countries,
Speaker 2: and the dog might have to pass a blood test
Speaker 2: or be forced quarantined for twenty eight days in a
Speaker 2: CDC registered facility, all at the owner's expense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, the CDC is saying this aligns with the World
Speaker 2: Organization for Animal Health standards for international movement of dogs
Speaker 2: from countries with a high risk of dog rabies. Okay,
Speaker 2: four Dogs Society since twenty fifteen, and they're saying, we've
Speaker 2: seen the CDC, We've seen some radius and challenges, international
Speaker 2: dog importers, fraudulent documentations, dogs housed in unsafe conditions, and
Speaker 2: there are only six ports now where a dog can
Speaker 2: enter the United States where there's an animal care facility.
Speaker 2: In the event it has to be it has to
Speaker 2: be quarantined. Yep, the airline will be required to create
Speaker 2: an airway an airway bill for each dog transported. Usually
Speaker 2: that was only required for dogs in the cargo hold,
Speaker 2: but not for dogs that you were taking, for example,
Speaker 2: in the cabin in that little container a little dog
Speaker 2: create you would put him in.
Speaker 1: Rabi's was completely eliminated in the United States in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: Done Raby's done. And I mean is Raby still around?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You can go to Appalachia and you can go to.
Speaker 2: You know, go to a restaurant and order up some
Speaker 2: squirrel and you can get it with or without rabies.
Speaker 1: Got it.
Speaker 2: You can go to Hunan and China, Kentucky Fried Bat
Speaker 2: and you could order bats with rabies.
Speaker 1: That is an issue, but eliminated in the United.
Speaker 2: States in two thousand and seven, and the influx has
Speaker 2: been astronomical for cases since twenty fifteen. And good luck
Speaker 2: now bringing in a dog from overseas. All right, you
Speaker 2: know how what it can cost three thousand dollars even
Speaker 2: with all the requirements. Now I didn't know this, And
Speaker 2: you have military folks are overseas, and let's say they
Speaker 2: get a dog. Service members can be reimbursed fro up
Speaker 2: to two thousand dollars worth of expenses for moving a
Speaker 2: dog internationally, which is kind of neat, But I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, you know, you test for rabies and you're done.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's an automatic test and that's it, and you're done,
Speaker 2: and you do it at the port, you do it
Speaker 2: at where you take off entering the United States, it
Speaker 2: could be a lot easier, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so much for that. Dog lovers, look
Speaker 1: what happens to you guys, okay.
Speaker 2: Jd Vance has criticized the Democrats, particularly Kamala Harris, as
Speaker 2: one of the childless cat ladies who run the country.
Speaker 2: And if you don't have kids, there's something inherently wrong
Speaker 2: with you, and he dug in that same twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one he criticized Democrats being led by childless figures, and
Speaker 2: of course the memes, the outrage, sometimes the agreement, and
Speaker 2: he dug it again and said that he believes democrats,
Speaker 2: especially those who aren't parents, are anti family and anti child.
Speaker 1: Now, is he completely out of his mind? Of course?
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, guys, really, are you really going
Speaker 2: to go there? Well, it seems so, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: wondering about the political moves that are being made between
Speaker 2: former President Trump arguing that Kamala Harris really isn't black
Speaker 2: or she just now pretends to be black or identifies
Speaker 2: herself as black and didn't historically, which of course she did.
Speaker 1: And so you got that one, and he's not taking
Speaker 1: that back. And then you have JD.
Speaker 2: Vance who said that the country was being led by
Speaker 2: childless figures and the best the line, I like the
Speaker 2: best childless cat ladies, by the way, I think he
Speaker 2: also he was talking about Harris and included Pete Buddhagic
Speaker 2: who didn't have kids, which he does now he and
Speaker 2: his husband. He and his husband have adopted a kid.
Speaker 1: And so what's going on with that? I mean, is
Speaker 1: that crazy? Enough? Let's go back into history for a moment.
Speaker 2: Can we can we do some a little bit of
Speaker 2: historical analysis here?
Speaker 1: Did you know for the first part.
Speaker 2: Of our history in the United States, a third of
Speaker 2: our first fifteen presidents, a third of them, including George Washington,
Speaker 2: had no children, or at least biological children.
Speaker 1: No kids.
Speaker 2: Now that was actually considered a virtue. Having kids was
Speaker 2: actually a detriment. And how is that possible? Where would
Speaker 2: you think that would go? Where would you think that
Speaker 2: someone running for president? And we're talking about early days
Speaker 2: of the country, actually right through I would guess the
Speaker 2: early nineteen hundreds, it was a good thing not to
Speaker 2: have children, starting with George Washington. And this has to
Speaker 2: do with this twenty twenty one clip of jd Vance,
Speaker 2: now the vice presidential nominee, and he's criticizing childless people,
Speaker 2: and then he targets now he targets Kamala Harris as
Speaker 2: one of the childless cat ladies who run the country.
Speaker 2: He just keeps on doubling down. And I don't know
Speaker 2: what else he could say. I mean, he could try
Speaker 2: to deflect. Oh, I didn't mean I'm in dog ladies
Speaker 2: instead of cat ladies. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 2: you come back from that. But he keeps on doubling down.
Speaker 2: In an interview he just did, he says that he
Speaker 2: believes the Democrats, especially those who aren't parents, are anti
Speaker 2: family an anti child.
Speaker 1: Okay, where do you go from there?
Speaker 2: Is it almost like someone is writing statements to Trump
Speaker 2: and advance to alienate as many people as possible. Well,
Speaker 2: let's just say there's a lot of pushback on this one. Now,
Speaker 2: let's go into history a little bit, because historically it
Speaker 2: was to your benefit running for president if you didn't
Speaker 2: have children.
Speaker 1: It was a good thing.
Speaker 2: A third of our first fifteen presidents, including George Washington,
Speaker 2: had no biological children. Now, he had a stepchild from
Speaker 2: his wife, Martha. When he married Martha, she had a daughter.
Speaker 2: And by the way, their daughter died at seventeen. She
Speaker 2: was epileptic. And that was fifteen years before Washington became president.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why it was such a virtue
Speaker 2: because when Washington was elected president, there was talk about
Speaker 2: the establishing a monarchy King Washington. A lot of talk
Speaker 2: because we had just come out of a monarchy. And
Speaker 2: even though we were very anti monarchy, there was a
Speaker 2: good percentage of people that wanted our monarchy. An American monarchy,
Speaker 2: and thank goodness, Washington shut that down. He was responsible
Speaker 2: for saying no, no, no. He's the one that first
Speaker 2: number one came up with, you call the president mister president,
Speaker 2: not your excellency.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were throwing all sort.
Speaker 2: Of statements out there about your excellency, your highness, literally
Speaker 2: that no one knew. And he's the one that says
Speaker 2: it's mister president. To this day, of course, that's what
Speaker 2: we call the president. And here's why it was so important,
Speaker 2: or it was important not to have kids in those
Speaker 2: early days because of the establishment of a monarchy, then
Speaker 2: its hereditary, it goes to children, and if there are
Speaker 2: no kids, then that cuts that avenue off.
Speaker 1: Kings are replaced by their sons.
Speaker 2: Kings are replaced by their children, and if there are
Speaker 2: no children, then that issue is put to rest.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, seventeen eighty.
Speaker 2: Eight, there was a newspaper article praising Washington as America's
Speaker 2: first president, partly on the ground that he had no
Speaker 2: son and we would not be running the risk of
Speaker 2: exposing us to the danger of a hereditary successor. Even
Speaker 2: Washington considered this point. There's a draft of his first
Speaker 2: inaugural that he didn't put in there, but.
Speaker 1: He said he.
Speaker 2: Not had my blood transmitted or my name perpetuated. I
Speaker 2: have no children for whom I could wish to make
Speaker 2: a provision, no family to building greatness upon my country's ruins.
Speaker 1: I mean, he said, you know it's a benefit. I
Speaker 1: don't want kids.
Speaker 2: Also, there was a letter that John Adams wrote to
Speaker 2: Thomas Jefferson worry that European powers is when John Adams
Speaker 2: was Secretary of State, worry that European powers may want
Speaker 2: to build alliances with the children of presidents. We're going
Speaker 2: to cozy up to president's kids, and therefore we're going
Speaker 2: to take advantage.
Speaker 1: So early on, no kids, no advantage. You're done and
Speaker 1: so Hunter, was that the Hunter Biden clause or uh yes.
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, here's the difference.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I agree with you being a president's kid
Speaker 2: is a good thing, but not in terms of running
Speaker 2: for president. That's the difference. I think the only people
Speaker 2: will have been a couple. George George W. Bush being
Speaker 2: the son of George H. W. Bush.
Speaker 1: Is that hereditary.
Speaker 2: We talk about a family dynasty, but it's not hereditary
Speaker 2: in the same sense.
Speaker 1: If it's automatic, it's not.
Speaker 2: You for example, Chelsea Clinton is not automatically the president
Speaker 2: when Bill Clinton dies or Bill Clinton no longer is,
Speaker 2: it's a very different concept. Being connected is the greatest
Speaker 2: thing in the world. I mean, for God's sake, you know,
Speaker 2: if my dad were president of the United States, I
Speaker 2: too would want to go to the gas company of
Speaker 2: Ukraine and say I'd like half a million dollars or
Speaker 2: what do you know about the gas industry? I know
Speaker 2: how to turn on my gas stove.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's worth.
Speaker 2: Half a million dollars, thank you. So I'm not saying
Speaker 2: there aren't advantages or disadvantages. But what I am saying
Speaker 2: is that the history of no kids is actually good
Speaker 2: for potential presidents and presidents. We just were fine with
Speaker 2: that historically.
Speaker 1: And also the other issue that people who are a
Speaker 1: little upset.
Speaker 2: With vance what is no kids? Explain that one to me,
Speaker 2: step kids are those kids? Adopted kids? Are those kids?
Speaker 2: Buddhajic has an adopted kid? Does he not have kids?
Speaker 2: How about kids that you're raising? How about nephews and
Speaker 2: nieces that you're raising?
Speaker 1: Are those kids?
Speaker 2: When I was teaching law school, I know it's hard
Speaker 2: to believe. I taught seminars in third party reproductive law.
Speaker 2: And this was when surrogacy and IVF was just starting,
Speaker 2: and I would ask the students, tell me what a
Speaker 2: mom or dad is, Tell me what a parent is.
Speaker 2: And I would start putting up on the board step parent,
Speaker 2: adopted parent, biological parent, intended parent, spermed downer, contractual parent.
Speaker 1: Which exists in the world of surrogacy and third party.
Speaker 2: And then I pointed to the class and I had
Speaker 2: like seven different versions, and I said, so you tell
Speaker 2: me who's mom and dad. Just go ahead, point it
Speaker 2: out and you tell me who is mom and dad
Speaker 2: in those seven configurations. And this is where I think jd.
Speaker 2: Vance is not only off the mark.
Speaker 1: He said, it's just dumb. It's just stupid. It's just
Speaker 1: it makes no sense.
Speaker 2: You know, for those of you that have no children,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming none of you have dogs because you all
Speaker 2: have to have cats.
Speaker 1: Is that automatic? No children equals cats? All right?
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